The Fighter & The Kid - Are We Walking Into Another Forever War? | TFATK Ep. 1168

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

On this episode of The Fighter and The Kid the guys dive into:– Iran & Israel tensions– Are we heading into another forever war?– The military industrial complex– Mossad vs CIA in...telligence– Media narratives & political motives– The Austin mass shooting– Has America learned anything from Iraq and Afghanistan?Is this different…Or are we watching history repeat itself?Drop your thoughts below. Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkQUO - Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://quo.com/FIGHTERProgressive - Visit https://www.progressive.com/ after this episode to see if you could save.O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:42 It says all that wait for zero reps. Where were you? You boys were both on the road. I was Phoenix. You were? I went Tampa Naples. Tampa Naples. Naples is Callan stomping ground.
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's an older demo. Older demo. I told you before how. It's a wedding room. I told you how. old the crowd was at Naples for that show. Yeah. But I almost, I had a panic attack because, dude, I walk into there and I didn't know that
Starting point is 00:01:11 they switched mine and the comic before me shows. I didn't look at the routing. So I walk in and when I tell you, there's not a person under 95 years old, like, not even gray hair, white hair. Yeah, white hair. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to bomb for an hour. This is terrible. Yeah, Maddox's on side.
Starting point is 00:01:30 And then I, if someone laughs too hard. I come into the green room. Maddox on site. Well, just in case. I was there one time before and someone actually had a breathing machine
Starting point is 00:01:39 in the crowd. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of money there. They were smart with their money. It's a simple town, like super calm. But luckily, I walk into the green room
Starting point is 00:01:48 and I'm just like, just counting my days till I die. And they're like, oh, you're here early. And I'm like, what do you mean? They're like, oh, we switch the shows. The guy who's on before you is actually, he's apparently the sense.
Starting point is 00:02:00 of New Jersey does stand up. Really? And he brought, yeah, older guy. Like, wears a suit on stage and, and he brought Vinnie Brand as his opener. I love Vinny. Yeah. Oh, you thought that one. They were performing for the 95 and up front.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Vinnie Brand got out. Vinny's great. When your crowd started, it was younger, but still 70. Yeah, they were like, the youngest was Brian's age. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, you're not, you're not getting from 22 young. We did Port Charlotte, and that's a great room.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But Nick, uh, is 32 and got up. and didn't realize it. We've got older people. You don't swear. If you start using the F-Bomb and start getting raunchy, what they do is they shut down. That's Vinny right there.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Vinny owns a stress factory, and he's great. He's a great guy, and he's really good at stand-up. He gets up and just, he, a lot of times he'll open up. And he's been, he's basically a comic who owns comedy clubs,
Starting point is 00:02:50 but he's a great guy. He's a great deal. Everybody loves Vinny. Nick Colby right after that poor Charlotte show. Oh, yeah, yeah. But to his credit, so Nick got up, and he was like,
Starting point is 00:02:59 damn, they shut down. because what happens is they go, this young dude is being raunchy, he's swearing and stuff. This old whippersnapper. Yeah, so they just kind of shut down there. Which Nick is not raunchy. No, but I knew this was going to happen to him. But I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:03:10 He'll tell you what. He got back up there on the second show. Murdered. Yeah, he murdered. Yeah, he adjusted. Mm-hmm. Murdered. But I did Tampa almost.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That's a great room. Tampa's great. Tidesplitters is a great room. Dude, I got like emotional. Like, I was like, this is from where I've come to fucking to get here was so, so it's so crazy to see and it was such a great feeling because like some of my dad's of the family showed up that I haven't seen in like 10 years so and it was like my audience the room full and like as I'm getting off the stage people are like taking selfies with me
Starting point is 00:03:43 as I'm getting off the say and my family seen that. And you murdered didn't you? Oh my god yeah everything I said was just in front of your dad's family you murdered it was the greatest feeling in the world like if I was going to live in Florida I could do Tampa oh yeah Tampa's cool oh yeah by the way my parents were in Phoenix and they were visiting their friends now my parents are 85 and their friends are 85 so there was a table of about nine some oldies 11 people and they were all in their 80s wrinkles and there were people on walkers canes wheelchairs it was great it was just a whole thing i got to say my parents at 85 are holding up well your parents are well your dad's sharp sharp Arizona has older demo too. I mean, I have younger with Scottsdale, but it's... But there's some... It's older demo.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Golf, golf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good weather, no snow. Yeah, not mad at it. At Phoenix? I like Phoenix a lot. I can't live there. Well, you don't...
Starting point is 00:04:39 That's summer. It's one... It was 115 degrees for 100 days. Let me say it again. But it wasn't 115 when you were there, was it? No. It was 91 at one point. But it was 115 degrees.
Starting point is 00:04:52 or a hundred days straight. This week, though, was one of those weeks. You ever have one of those weeks where you actually have like a moment emotionally where like you look back? You're like, damn, literally five years or six years ago, I was living in a studio apartment with two other comedians. And I don't like to look back six years,
Starting point is 00:05:08 but I know. And it was just like going from that to be like now that I have a room of people that actually fuck with me that actually came out to see me. It was just like. You're on the rise, my man. It was. Yeah, take it in. You know what?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Because six years ago, we had a million views. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this thing might break 30. Yeah, that's where we're at. There's been a small drop. So don't let us bring you down. You keep climbing. And don't let old bri here bring you down.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Well, you know, we never looked back anyway, even when we're doing great. I remember one time my TV show schooled was like a hit. Yeah. The ratings came out. There was an article. And I sent it to Brandon. And he goes, all he said was, you made it, brother. And we just went on.
Starting point is 00:05:54 That's true. That's it. But, you know, when you hit that thing, it's not like that much changes. You relax a little in your stomach. You go, all right, I got some stuff. But then you're still at it and trying to keep it going. Well, yeah, that's our, I've realized. I'd rather be here.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I've realized between, especially knowing you and like, just as things have gotten better. Like, I remember getting, I remember like my whole life being a young kid living in New York, wanted to get past the cellar and being like seeing like wooie and. Yeah. like, you know, Jim Norton and like the table. And then, like, being like, oh, it's going to be the greatest thing when I get past. And then I got past there and I'm like, now what? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:31 That's everything, though, in life, literally everything. And every time I get something, it's kind of like a sickness where you're just like, okay, that was cool. Now what? On to the next. And you try and like, there's days where you try to be like, all right, let me take this in. And you could do that for a day and then you're like, now what? But you have to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:46 What do you want? What do you want? What do you want to? Well, it's weird because I meet people who are just like so complacency. Like I did a shows of Brian and I'm not going to say what city, but like there was an opener that he was just like, he told me like, yeah, he's like I'm happy with where I'm at. He's like, you know, that must be nice though. Well, I got jealous for a second because he's like, I live with my mom. She cooks all my meals. I get it. You know, I don't have to pay for rent. No bills. And I just do, I open for people here. He's not worried about inflation or shit. And I was like. I can't think of anything worse. To look back on my life and realize that I live with my mom and I'm in my 40s. It depends. If him and his mom are close and he's chilling, you know. He's a mama's boy.
Starting point is 00:07:25 He's, yeah. Yeah, you fucking mama's. He's like, my mom's making lasagna tonight. I get it. And he's 40, you know, and he's 40 years old as mom was making lasagna. Does he have a girlfriend? No, he's like, I don't care about that. Let me answer that question.
Starting point is 00:07:38 No, he doesn't. Let me answer another question. He doesn't have nothing. Yeah. But isn't there a part of you that kind of gets a, no, like, I wish that I could be, like, no. I have that part of my friend, like, I'm never going to be happy. My favorite, my favorite is the Jordan Peterson thing.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And the greatest thing, he goes, he said, the female crucifixion is letting your son just, you've got to facilitate your child goes away. And all you want to do is hold him back. And he says, away you go, kid, away you go. And the kid goes, why, it's dangerous out there. And he goes, yeah, it is. You bet. It's more dangerous if you stay here with me.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Because out there, you lose your body. You stay with me. You lose your soul. Fucking true. True. You never realized any potential. I don't know what you're saying, but I'm on board. You can't stay home.
Starting point is 00:08:25 You stay here. You're going to die. That's how he says it. You have such an audio book voice. You should be doing. I don't know why you're doing an audio book. I got a real purry voice. You should be reading Blood Meridian.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Oh my God. That's the greatest. Richard Poe reads that book. And he's way better. Maybe I will though. But that being said, like I see these, like I know I'll never be that. Because every time, like I remember the first time, remember you, when I first I for you. It went viral, hit 17 million views on a video and got like 50,000 followers
Starting point is 00:08:55 within the first couple days that happening. And then I'm like, I was like, now what? Now what do I post? Now I got to. Yeah, social media is it's not going to, it's not going to check the box for you. No. No, it's actually, it actually makes it worse. But the, but there's something to a simpler life. Like when I'm hanging out, not here, but especially in LA, like the baseball ads, a blue collar, low, low house payment. They're not worry about cars, you know, the bills are paid. I was like, they're kind of doing it right. That's pretty cool. They're kind of doing it right. Having, having no debt is a big deal. That when you just meet like someone who's just like, they're totally fine, which is like, like, and I, I respect the
Starting point is 00:09:33 shit out of blue collar, like, my whole family's blue collar. And they're just like, my family members would be happy if they just got a pension. You know what I mean? Like, they got their pension. They were tired. Like, if they retired before they were 50, they, and they had a house. There's definitely something to that. There's a definitely something to that. And they're very, they're You're about your family. You're about your friends. Like, where I, we have a house in Florida. And that's exactly how it is.
Starting point is 00:09:55 When I go to the amenity center at this, the gay community, it's like people there worked for a living. They were firemen. They were cops. They were, you know, city, whatever they were. My dad's a see, yeah. Yeah, and now they live on a pension. But they're the, it's the best because it's all about the kids.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's all about community. It's all about friends. And everybody just hangs out. And they live such a happy life. Love it. Yeah. Love it. Meanwhile, this shit.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah. Sometimes I do wonder. I love stand-up, though. I love performing. I love this. I feel like everything else is a job when you're on stage, though. You're like, I get to do this for a living. Well, you know, you were there throughout the whole breakup.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I ended a whole engagement because I was living in a place where I couldn't get on stage. I was living in Florida. And did your girl have a job there, like life there? Yeah. Well, she's from a different, she's from Brazil. And, like, she wanted to be around. Like, Latin families like to be around their family. And, like, she spent, I give her credit.
Starting point is 00:10:46 She, like, moved around the country with the New York. York for me, lived in Los Angeles for me. She's a great girl. I have no bad things to say about her. Classy, classy. But she wanted to live around her family, and that's just how Latin families are. Yeah, tell me about it. And then I thought maybe, you know, like with me doing the road on the weekends and, you know, the little bit of stage time that I can get. But then I started actually getting, like, actual anxiety, like watching my friends in New York get, you know, this, this thing and that thing. But I think that anxiety comes from the fact that you, when you do stand up, and I know you feel this, and you do really well, right? You go,
Starting point is 00:11:18 holy shit, I just wrote something that crushed. And then you go, what if I keep doing this? Like, what is possible here? And then you realize that there's a, that you have a potential that you kind of have to see through. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? And that's, that's kind of what I love.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And I think the anxiety comes from, too, that's like, same thing when I first moved here and it was like, not like, when you first move here and you don't know the rooms yet, there's not a lot of stage time. So you're like, me, the way I write is I love to get on stage and write a little, like, right on stage. And when you can't do that, like, I'm not someone who could just do pen to paper type of writing.
Starting point is 00:11:51 That's really hard for me to do. Yeah. So like not getting on stage and not being able to work out these jokes. Like I just feel like you're in. A lot of rooms? No, no. Like they closed the Palm Beach Improred. Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:12:02 After like. I did. But I think they were opening it back up or they have the Fort Lauderdale. Still hasn't even opened up yet. It hasn't opened. You know, Patrick Bed David was flirting with the idea of opening a room in Fort Lauderdale. They got a really, really cool, like, theater kind of room. that would be really cool.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And Fort Lauderdale needs that comedy scene. They could do it. Well, you know what I was thinking to when I was in Florida, both these last two trips? I was like, I wish Rogan would have opened up the mothership in Florida. In South Florida. It's just such a better city. He's going to open up another.
Starting point is 00:12:34 They're trying to decide, I think, between New York, Vegas. I think he mentioned Florida. But they opened up another one. Because just like Florida is just a better lifestyle than anywhere, anywhere I've ever lived in the country. They don't have property taxes out there now, right? I don't think so. It's pretty cool. To just live near the beach and fucking everyone's pretty chill, like everyone's very relaxed
Starting point is 00:12:54 lifestyle compared to here where I remember as soon as I told you, as soon as I got back to Austin, I got hit with a gust of dust. Oh, dude. No, it wouldn't be right now, June. They just passed the law to end property taxes. The first state to do it. Really? Pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I'll go to child GPT. Go ahead. Is it no income tax, right? Well, they've never had income tax. Yeah, they have income tax. Tax? Not state tax. No? No. Come on, fellas. Texas, Florida. There's a couple states that don't. At Marathon gas stations, every stop is the start of fun. Like the awesome fuel savings you can get with marathon rewards. Join Marathon rewards today. Start earning rewards on every gallon of gas. You can redeem rewards at any time, saving up to $1 per gallon. And don't forget, marathon stations are packed with all the conveniences. You need to stock up and live. life on the go marathon where fun runs on full available at participating marathon locations terms
Starting point is 00:13:54 conditions apply see marathon rewards.com for details oh okay yeah this is a great law actually so in florida because they're old people um yeah they want to pass this so this is a trump initiative which would be this when you pay your house off as an old person wild you get stuck with taxes after that so a lot of times you still have a huge bill so what he's trying to do is You never own your house. Right. So no matter what, and property taxes only go up
Starting point is 00:14:22 because the property, the value of the house goes up so you're kind of spending property taxes. There you go. So if you watch Yellowstone, the series, the whole reason the family had to sell the ranch, they owned the land,
Starting point is 00:14:33 but the, you know, whatever it was 500 acres. It was like $40 million a year. So you don't own your land. You don't. You never own it. You never own it.
Starting point is 00:14:42 As someone has always been an apartment live or this is fucking... No, but it's so true. I just learned the hard way moving to Texas. Yeah. I'm fully behind. that. I'm fully behind the idea of when you buy your house and pay it's never your house.
Starting point is 00:14:52 No. And when you pay your house off. When you pay your house or you should not have to pay taxes after that. It's insane. Right? That's ridiculous. You can put it in a trust like say if you have kids and you own your house you can put it in a trust and there's ways to get around some of the tax here. But you still you're fucked it. That's for lack of a better words, fucking retarded. Yeah. Why would you not that makes no sense. No, you never really own your house. Well, well, how about the fact, look this up, Jen, when you pay into Social Security, your whole. wife, right? If you die before you're 65, I believe that money does not go to you. I believe that money just gets sucked back into the system. I mean, it wouldn't really go to if you're dead.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Huh? What do you think? It should go to your family? You've been paying in the whole time. If you're dead, you're not getting. So what? You've been paying. Look, watch this. You don't personally if you die before claiming them. Hold on here. Just two. Hold on here. Start collecting 62. Look at you. If you died before claiming retirement benefits, you won't receive. them. Not the whole story. Then no retirement members are paid out.
Starting point is 00:15:55 The system does not refund the tax. Your spouse can get it though. The system does not refund the tax you paid in if you're single. If you have a spouse, survivor benefits is early 60 or 50 of disabled. Any age of you caring for a child?
Starting point is 00:16:06 You fellas? I don't know. I give a fuck. None of us have social security. Well, Brian's almost here. We all pay in the social security boat. All of us. So you will have a social security check
Starting point is 00:16:15 when you're, when you hit 65. Let. There you go. So there it is. But it's not much, right? No. No.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's not going to cover your property taxes. No. No. And that's a problem. I think it's fucked up. Hey, guys, good news. We're at war. Nobody pays that.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Nobody pays attention. We're like, war. Dude. How about the fact that they killed the 86-year-old Hamay and he? 86 is a pretty good run. Like 86. Is that how old he was? Yeah, he was 86.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He's like, I mean, you know, I wonder what that was like. He's like, ah, old age or fucking, you know. Yeah, right? Here's a chance. It took out all of them. I'm going to ask you a boring question. Yeah. Didn't we, did we put him into power?
Starting point is 00:16:56 Is that, here's a time for you to shine. No, we never put him in power. No? There was a revolution in 1979 where Khomeini, the Ayatollah Khomeini came, I believe, from London and essentially took over. The Shah was overthrown. And it was started by students, ironically, who are now kind of leading the charge against Islamic Republic. And for 47 years.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I don't like any of it. I don't like any of it. But you see the Iranian people, like in the street, celebrate. Like, Iranians are pretty crunk about it. Because, you know, they, like, murdered, like, 25,000 people, like, two weeks ago. Yeah, they... But it's mainly that Iran is... And the liberals are like, this is bad.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Right, right. But... The Iranians have also been the sponsor of so many proxy, like, Hezbollah Hamas. All that bad stuff is from Iran. Yeah. And the catalysts of all that. Yeah. I just...
Starting point is 00:17:45 With war, I just... I don't like any... should feel that one. But it's also like with Libya, which we helped out, Iraq when we get rid of Saddam Hussein. It's not like all of these. It's not like the average Iraq is doing great. They're not crushing it. When we do this.
Starting point is 00:18:02 23 years, by the way. Yeah. My thing is like, but also just mind your own business. Clean your own house up. How are things in America? How many people, Jim, look up how many people died in Southside Chicago over the weekend? Over the weekend. 60? Well, this was a debate that mean.
Starting point is 00:18:17 How's inflation going? How's homeless going? me and my girl had this debate yesterday because you know she was like you know I'm so happy that you know these women will be able to be empowered and blah blah blah just but I'm like I understand that completely I'm and I'm all for that but there's so many things like what about the people in africa who are getting killed for being a Christian like we can't it's hard it's sometimes like because I'm an american for america first guy I don't want to sound like Nick Fuentes but like I like to be America first and there's so many different things going around the world like how could we fight everyone's
Starting point is 00:18:45 battle like how do we pick and choose yeah I had this argument too I was like if we're going to go into a country. We always go in with a moral framework. We always say things like, we're fighting for freedom. Well, okay, but guys, you know what I'm saying? You got to, you got to, you got to, it actually is really important to go in. We got to get our ducks in the road. Yeah, when you, when you fight a war is 23 years and the, and it goes back to the Taliban. You know what I'm saying? It's like, well, what, what happened? There's a lot of people died. A lot of people, innocent people, not just Americans, you know? And so, There's always a motive behind it.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Somebody's making money off this. I don't trust any of it. There's a lot of money made in war. Of course. I mean, it's, so. But also Trump ran on, I'm not going to be this war monger and all the stuff. That was my thing. Yeah, but so far it seems to be prosecuted.
Starting point is 00:19:36 In a way, I think they saw an opening. I think they saw an opening after 47 years. But doesn't Iran supply the oil to China? So that's the big thing. So China's ahead of us with all the AI. They need all the oil. And Iran supplies to oil. And that's a big part of it.
Starting point is 00:19:50 So one of the things is keeping starving China, starving China of energy. Because if they don't have energy, they can't keep up with the AI war, and they definitely can't invade Taiwan. That's the big one. Right? So it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a 3D chess here. Yeah, dude. And it's dicey, but I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I don't know if you guys know this, but the, don't underestimate the American Israeli ability, their technology, dude. These, these ICBMs, the biggest thing they were talking about is these missiles from Iran, it's going to light everybody on fire. The thing. is that the Israelis have such supernatural intelligence. You hear about the Israeli massage, they were dentists and doctors, real dentists and doctors. You put implants in their fucking tooth to track all of them. Tracking them with implants. Let's just start with that. That's what we
Starting point is 00:20:33 know about. Okay. So we knew exactly where the entire leadership was, killed all of them. Then they put another guy, did you see, so they kill a coming in. He got to take it out too. He had 11 hours. In 11 hours, you're the leader. He's like, what the fuck? He's like, no, no, no, no. And the idea behind that is they said this is the idea behind that they go hey hey don't think you're going to put another homainian it ain't happening guys the regime is done so if you guys think you're going to give and now what they think is that they're killing even the decision makers there so all of a sudden nobody knows who to put in power nobody knows how to it's like you know unleash that sleeper cell well there's nobody to tell them to do that so there's a whole one but so watch this before they even get the fucking
Starting point is 00:21:15 icbms off there's some kind of a thing where the minute that signal goes because they've hacked the computers, we hit the, we hit the silos. So they didn't even get out of the fucking gates. And all the damage that's been done has been when they shoot the missile down or the drone and then pieces hit. But a lot of it is control for the oil. Yeah. Like my thing is getting get out. All right. You boom them all up. All right. Hopefully they figure it out. If we're going to get involved now as fast as possible. We want that oil. We have that oil, we have our own oil. We have our own oil. They're supplying China, which is our biggest advocate. Yeah. So. And then also, who knows what they
Starting point is 00:21:48 the Fstein files have on Trump. Well, I'll get to that in a second, but I was going to say, like me and my, me and my girl were talking about this. It's just like getting, but if you're going to try and pretend that this is about like, because she's, you know, we're both talking about like the fact that they're like, oh, death to America, this and that. They couldn't, they couldn't fart in our direction. There's nothing they could do with their military capabilities that could actually affect us.
Starting point is 00:22:13 No, we don't know. Like, we'd have to, it's a pretend. The biggest thing you guys remember also is the terrorists, like, People always talk about how Netanyahu's talking to Trump, the Saudis and the UAE hate. They hate the Persians. Yeah. They hate the Iranians.
Starting point is 00:22:28 There's also sketchy to the Taliban. People always conflate Iranians with Arabs. There is different a culture and different a language as Chinese and English. Yeah. There is so different. And so they've always been adversaries. So Vince, what's his name? B.
Starting point is 00:22:42 MSB is always calling Trump. They want, they're like, go all in. We use everything we have. and they want to crush. Also a little side note, the Iranian women are the Latinas of the Middle East. Thank you, sir. Save the asses.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Really? Oh, bro. Iranian women, Bob, really? They got asses. You like Latinos like I do. I can't fist bump. Iranian women. What's your girl?
Starting point is 00:23:03 She's Italian. She's not. Why? So we're still cooking? Here's the thing. Iranian women, dude? Or the Colombians, Latinas, the Mexicans are Middle East?
Starting point is 00:23:12 They're beautiful. They're beautiful. The dimes of all dimes come from Iran. And so are Arab women, by the way. They're gorgeous. Not all of them. Some of them are very hairy, but the Iranians are who you want to save.
Starting point is 00:23:23 If that's it. If you're into that, go ahead. Yeah. Oh, I don't like that. If you want her to get blown up, go ahead and be against the war,
Starting point is 00:23:31 Nick. Yeah. Hey, Nick, yeah. If you want that ass to get blown out. In all fairness, that should not be covered. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Free him. I mean, oh, dude. I mean, no, you ain't ready. You, this is a rabbit hole.
Starting point is 00:23:45 You ain't ready to go down, Chin. Oh, man. You ain't ready for that. I mean, Jen, we didn't have to get the Latinos of the Middle East. They should be saved at all cost. No one's talking about that.
Starting point is 00:23:56 In the guy's defense there, you have to cover that up. You can't have that walk into the streets. That's so distracting. Dude, I swear to. You can't go to the gym and see that. Don't put that blank in up. I was in Jordan. Still, our ass.
Starting point is 00:24:08 We went to Jordan. What? We went to Jordan three years ago. The women in Jordan. Oh, my God. They're fucking gorgeous. Yeah, they're beautiful. Where I went to high school had a huge Jordanian population.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Oh, dude, that part of the world, Palestinian women, when you see like the modern, when they're... I'm just talking about Iranian. Persian women. Gorgeous. Iranian, man. There we go. Don't bring that up and say, here we go, Chin.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's not what I'm talking about, dude. He brought up someone's grandma. Yeah. Chin's all, yeah, here we go, fellas. By the way, Chin's a classy guy. You know Chin's like different. He brings up the faces. And we don't even care.
Starting point is 00:24:48 They can have a goat head. But then he goes, here we go. Like, we're going to get excited about it. They're all on burkas and fucking covered. Look at that. She's like, this is how the women should be. I'll find out chin's just,
Starting point is 00:24:59 I'll move her into my house. Yeah, I'll move that girl into my house right now. I don't even know her. She probably speaks fluent Arabic. I'll move her into my house. And I'll be like, to my wife, I'll be like, come on.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah. Jesus. How do you feel, I mean, you brought up the Epstein thing. Who knows? Luckily for guys like Sam, Tripoli and, and Kurt, who are doing, I don't ever think about these things. They find out the things that I wouldn't have found out. But this has been a separate thing.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So when people say that, it's like, no, I'm saying about the Bill Gates thing. Iran has been on the American Israeli radar firm. No, no, you're missing. I think you're missing what I'm saying is like, the, you see right after Hillary Clinton is on trial. You see these people, I'm not, and I might, you know what I mean, but like all these things, then Bill Gates is supposed to.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And then all of a sudden, while that's supposed to happen. war we're at war mass shooting and in that time period bill gates signed a military contract and now uh open a i with elan altman and bill gates and all that has signed something under contract with the united states government i mean i like i like your not me your hollywood i like your hollywood idea the only thing is that that this has been a thing so what people don't realize in israel when we went into ira but it is crazy to go from yeah but when we went into iraq like in two thousand Coincidence, Nick, don't be ridiculous. Israel was telling, Israel was actually telling the Bush administration to attack Iran, not Iraq.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Well, they've been to, Iran's always been the biggest threat. Netanyahu's been saying for, what, 30 plus years now, that they're one week away from... Always, always, one week away. Always a week away. Always a week away. I mean, I'm not going to say anything bad about Israel, especially on air. But I will say that, like, you know, they've had this in the chamber. They've wanted this for all...
Starting point is 00:26:45 This has been a long time. What was the thing that pushed it over the edge finally? I don't know. But the Israelis know something we don't know. Like the Israelis, their intelligence is crazy. They've been in Iran for so long. And that's why they were able to go, oh, here they are. They've been planning for this for so long, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Oh, 100%. And so of the Americans. They're so good with their, but they're also very good at figuring out how to make the, like, because October 7th, right, they have the best intelligence of the world. And a bunch of guys flew in on. on kites, you know what I mean? So it's weird that they're not able to see that coming. I don't know, Nick.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I'm with you, dude. I'm with you. Seven guys flew in on kites. Yeah, yeah. They have great intelligence. But that's the thing. That's been the biggest thing, by the way, in Israel and the Knesset. You should see those people are getting up and screaming at him, Netanyahu about that.
Starting point is 00:27:38 That's the interesting thing about the Knesset in Israel. Like, people think Israel's one monolith. They argue, like in the Knesset, they argue. Like in the Kinesad, they're screaming at Netanyahu. You knew about that. That's what I wondered. Do they know and do they let these things happen so that they have, you know, the false, you'd call it a false flag? I think that's like September 11th.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I think sometimes these things, I don't think it's far-fetched to believe that people pull off crazy shit sometimes with low-tech ideas. The low-tech idea with let's fly planes in the buildings. The same people that put something in the dental work also couldn't see a kite coming? I think it's way more complicated than that. Dude, you're being fucking outlandish. I think it's way more complicated than that. First of all, I think the one thing about the Israelis is they're arguing all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:23 They debate constantly. Like, look at the Knesset. Just watch the fights between labor and the coup. They're constantly trying to kill them. Yeah, even if they're arguing, they still came up with the plot to put implants in peace. Yeah, the Mossad is very, very good that way.
Starting point is 00:28:35 But what I'm saying is that they're they're trying to put the best intelligence in the world. In his own country has been indicted. They were trying to put him in jail. forever, right? He's been dealing with legal problems for corruption and everything else. So there's a huge contingent in Israel
Starting point is 00:28:47 that wants that Nanyahu out. And so when people say, like, you know, they have all this, they're constantly fighting with each other. But the Mossad, give it up, say what you will, a country of eight million people, they can fight their asses off.
Starting point is 00:29:03 They are, like the beepers? Yeah. Holy shit. They could get, don't fuck around. They could get politicians around the world, blackmail. They'll get to you, Bob. You know why they can get to you?
Starting point is 00:29:15 They'll get you. You know what they can get to you? Their existence depends on it. Their life depends on it. They'll get you to an island. They'll get you. They're powerful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I will. And by the way, like, it's funny because now all of us would put nothing past the capabilities of Mossad. Hell no. Like, you know what I mean? Like, say what you will. Dude, did you see, like, how many years have people been like, oh, like making fun of like the conspiracy there's like Jewish space lasers and everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:29:44 that's crazy. And then now they have Jewish lasers fucking destroying. I see him, whatever it is, bombs in the air. Intercontinental ballistic missiles. And I'm like, that's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So there is a Jewish space missiles. Oh, there's a intercontinental ballistic missiles. Okay. So they can go between continents. Hey, they've long range missiles. Got to give credit to U.S. technology.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Did you see the video? of the heat-seeking. It's fake. It's from a video game. What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it?
Starting point is 00:30:18 It was a fucking... I fell for a jet. It was a bomb after. Oh, I saw. Yeah. From a video game. Damn it's... Although, that's probably
Starting point is 00:30:26 kind of pretty close to reality. Probably not, though. Not like that. You don't think so. Where he's like... Dude, that was feeling... They do that. They do that.
Starting point is 00:30:32 You can see that in... You can see that. You can see that. They practiced those maneuvers. Fucking ruin my day. Yeah. It came as a... Our fighter jets have crazy capabilities.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Well, you know, because me and Brian sometimes tour and back a day we'd run into some like some shady military characters and do you remember the time I'm not going to say what the guy said but you remember the time
Starting point is 00:30:52 there was a drunk guy and he was a bombs expert and he told us some of the things that we would have never believed that we have like some of the technology that we have and he was so drunk and he was like don't tell anybody this
Starting point is 00:31:05 so I'm not going to say anything on air but the shit that he was saying that we have that you would have never guessed you're like how does that even possible you know one time i had a fucking drunk dude who was a ranger or he was some kind of a he was he was like a seal i don't know but he got drunk and he told me about one group and i brought that group up to a a guy i know who may or may not be in delta force you know what he said to me he goes he goes how do you know about that and i go i don't know he's drunk guy in Milwaukee he goes he goes do me a favor those are good americans you got to keep
Starting point is 00:31:39 that to yourself like he got to do you got dead and I got scared. I went, okay. I'll never mention that. Information is not for you. Right. Not undercover, but I had a cop in Milwaukee come to the show one time.
Starting point is 00:31:51 You know, I'm into the serial care stuff. He's like, hey, man, we had the Dahmer stuff. If you want to go see all the fat. I'm like, oh my God, love that. Did you go? I was going to them, my brother was like, what the fuck are you doing? That guy showed you.
Starting point is 00:32:03 That's what I thought. And Jay's like, did you see a badge? Did you see anything? Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right? You're like, okay. Jay was like, he has the evidence at his house, moron.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah, he's such a big fan. Anybody, anybody. He's like, and he risked his job to steal the evidence. Exactly. Anybody who's like, I got that, it's like, I would have talking to me. Oh, my God. Oh, I'm like the, I would have been. I'm like the kid in the nine.
Starting point is 00:32:26 How about the fucking? A lot of the nine is it jumps in the white man because there's canberry eggs. Remember? That's basically what was cereal. Remember zero dark 30? Yeah. Okay. So, so zero dark dirty.
Starting point is 00:32:37 They talk about how they killed bin Laden. Mm-hmm. And then there was a. big news article about how a lot of CIA guys got fired, reprimanded. For leaking the news? For leaking the news. Guess who leaked that story? The CIA.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Guess what Zero Dark 30 did? That's not how they caught Bin Laden at all. It was all fake. But they had agents at the CIA who quietly and secretly told the director and writers how they did it. And it was all bullshit. Just to throw them off. How cool is that? That's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:33:12 How about that? And then they do a movie and the CIA is like, how dare you take our secrets? Who do you think is better intelligence, the CIA or Mossad? Look at me. Massad. You think so? I mean, have you seen what they did? The thing is the CIA is not bragging about what they did.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It doesn't get mainstream. Thank you. So I would go to CIA. Yeah? Don't get a twisted. At the end of the day, CIA. We have more money, all technology. But when it comes on Mossad, like intelligence in the Middle East,
Starting point is 00:33:40 in the Middle East? Oh, I don't know. Who knows what you has? That beeper operation? They find out that they're using beepers. They are. They are because every time they'd use a cell phone, they can get waxed.
Starting point is 00:33:51 So then they go like this, they go, all right, let's, let's, I know what we'll do. Didn't they wait like two years? Not even that. They start a company in Romania. Long play. That then assembles it in somewhere in China. Just shell company after shell company, right?
Starting point is 00:34:06 It's all shell companies. Longest play. Damn. Well, get them to use. They were making drones in Lebanon, in Gaza. Drones in the data cells in there that were Arab. Because remember, the Mossad's so good because people always forget that there are a lot of Arabic Jews. And the Arab Jews speak perfect Arabic.
Starting point is 00:34:27 So Syria de Duval, that show, the fucks are called Fowda, which means chaos. We have division that we. The Mossad has divisions. Sorry, guys. I'm, I'm, Brian's massage. Yeah, I love it. Let's take a little break, B. Let's take, let's tell, I want to talk you guys about quo.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Oh, dude, why? Because if your team's still operating like a group chat with commitment issues, that's a problem. Thank you. Nothing kills momentum faster than an opportunity. Slipping through the cracks because everyone assumes someone else was on it. Eventually, look at the chaos sigh and think, let's fucking quo. There you go. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:36:22 But the Mossad has divisions in their secret service that speak fluent Arabic, and they are Arabic. So how are you going to fuck when they? They grew up around, but they just happened to be Jewish. So they are the craftiest, by far. By far, when it comes to Middle East intelligence, they live there. Don't get twisted. They just want the headlines. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But according to CIA people, they're not under the same rules we are. So they can use terrifying violence. They can blow up a whole city block. It doesn't matter. We have law to order. Yeah, the Geneva Convention and all that. No, no, none of that stuff. Yeah, America.
Starting point is 00:36:57 They don't have to follow that? No. Assassinations, where they dress up like women, dude, you're not going to, you're getting fucked. You don't, don't fuck for us. Did you see that mass shooting in Austin? Yeah, bro. Dude, so I was in Houston.
Starting point is 00:37:10 for Tiger's baseball games. And it's all over my Twitter feed. I'm like, holy shit, right off 6th Street. Right of 6th Street. And then so I call my girl, because it was right after it happened, I'm like, yo, are you, is the news report on the mass shooting? She's like, no, not at all. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I thought. And then it didn't get reported for a while after. Do you know what's really sad about this especially? I hate this. So, I mean, this bar is known for, like, for underage drinkers. Like underage kids sneaking in with fake IDs, stuff like that. With their whole life ahead of them. So some of these people, they might not even been 21 years old.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Did he walk into the club and shoot? Yeah. So what he did is he came, if he started shooting with a pistol from his truck, and then he came out with a rifle. Now here's the thing. Here's a thing. A terrible shot, though. The shout out to Austin PD, because they were there in less than a minute
Starting point is 00:38:01 and they shot that dude. They killed him, yeah. Shout out to Austin PD. He's dead. He shot that. He shot them on scene. You ever see those cops? You see those, you see those cops around mothership?
Starting point is 00:38:10 Well, now they're not fucking around now. No. Now, like, they're on edge. Like, it's shoot to kill. They're in shape. Those guys trained. You can see that guy. What was his sweater?
Starting point is 00:38:19 Praise Allah or some shit. No, it's a property of Islam. What do you even buy that? Property of Islam. He's Senegalese. Property of Allah. The irony of the Senegalese is that they're Sufi Muslims. They're not even like...
Starting point is 00:38:28 They're not Sunni? They're Sufi. So Sunni and Shia is it just... I don't want to get into it, but I can break it down really quickly. But... Give a TLD. Sufi Muslims in Senegal. are, it's more of like a spiritual idea of internal.
Starting point is 00:38:43 They sing, they dance. So, but this guy's, it's a totally different type of Muslim than what's in Iran, right? Yeah. And he had a Quran in the car? Yeah, he's been radicalized. How many more of these are going to start popping up, though? That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Well, that's the one thing I was saying to someone in the day. Because like, you know, like, you know, when they say death to America, they can't do anything from where they are. But there is that worry that with the border being open for X amount of time and who knows who came in. There's a ton of them. A ton of them. But a lot of this is lone,
Starting point is 00:39:17 lone gunmen who are just... Don't matter. Long go men do a lot. They do a lot of damage, dude. They do a lot of damage. It gives a fuck. They do a lot of damage. Whether it's one or fucking,
Starting point is 00:39:26 if there's 20 individuals, you're like, it's so... There's got to be some splinter cells that have to, like just... That's what they were talking about that. Here's the thing about the splinter cells. They got to have somebody to activate them. And those people are,
Starting point is 00:39:40 are dead. So the problem is they don't even know at this point, and they don't know who's in charge because they are thawacking a whole bunch of them. So the whole command structure is in chaos. We're two for two with taking leaders out in the past couple months. Got to give it up to Trump.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I'm sorry. Two for two. This particular administration and Department of Defense is emphasize lethality. They didn't emphasize DEI. Now, again, as all of us realize, like, what happens afterwards, right? That's the main.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Americans are really good at going in. What's the real reason behind it? What's going on here? I pray that this is a very short operation and not another version of Afghanistan or Iraq. I think they want the military to take over. Remember, 70% of Iran is under 30. So most of those young people don't, they just want to be modern. Did you see all the Iranians celebrating?
Starting point is 00:40:40 in L.A. in downtown Austin. Did you see the reporter who was live and his bosses, the producer tell him not to cover the Irating celebrating? And he goes, no, no, you're out of your mind. The mainstream media is. I think he got fired. Bring that up, Jim. The mainstream media is so irresponsible and they don't tell the truth, as we all know.
Starting point is 00:40:56 No, because the Iranians are excited about it, but they want the woke, liberal warlocks to have somebody celebrate. You remember when Eddie Bravo would say CNN, and I was like, and I would defend CNN because I figured they were all mainstream media. And now you're like, Warlords?
Starting point is 00:41:10 Warlocks. Like wizards? Ugly women. I know it's the male term for witches. Warlocks. Yes. It's a male witch. Yeah, it doesn't matter. When I say warlocks,
Starting point is 00:41:21 you get the picture in your head. Because they usually have hair on the lip. I was like, did he say warlock? And green hair. It says he said death to Kamani. That's the reason why it's fired. But I love how it's a bunch of white liberals.
Starting point is 00:41:34 No, no, no, no. No, no, no, buddy. This is a guy who was, uh, So is there no one in charge? Well, there is. Believe me that they, I think the Israelis who are doing a lot of this were like, they know how to do this. And they know how to have. Like they had something in place.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yes. This has been, dude, this has been planned for. Over 30 years, right? Yeah. I mean, remember, the revolution started in 1979. That's 47 years ago. Yeah. And they've been an enemy.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And every administration has tried. You know, negotiating. you know, negotiations. I'll find it for Wednesday's show, Chena, take two on a criminal fire. Let me see that. Let me say, that guy break down.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Well, he's got to be. That's fake. That's crocodile tears right there. Do you know what he's saying? Yes, I speak fluent Farsi. He's basically saying, he's, you know, saying he's dead. Chameh, the one thing that they were worried about is
Starting point is 00:42:42 Chameenie is like the Pope to a lot of Muslims, especially Shia. So he's like the closest approximation of God on earth in a way. He's the supreme Islamic leader. And the one worry was that when you take out someone like that, it creates this crazy... Like a radicalized people?
Starting point is 00:42:59 It's always done that. But they also know is that Sunnis and Shia are not on speaking terms. You have to... Like, in the Middle East, that schism between Sunni and Shia is literally a huge thing. And you know what it comes down to?
Starting point is 00:43:12 If you're Shia, you can be a cleric or a leader or imam like the equivalent of a priest if you can directly tie your lineage to Muhammad whereas the Sunni are like no it's whoever's the most competent and religious and Sunni just means the Sunnah you know it's taken after that which is the like literal things that Muhammad said it's not the Quran okay but they follow what Muhammad said and everybody does so it's like the different I mean it would just be like the small difference between Protestant and Christian literally yes yeah really small difference.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It's actually a smaller difference. So I wonder where we go from here with this war. I wonder what's next. My feeling is that they're going to try to get the military that's not very religious to take control of the country. Because the one thing Americans and Israelis don't want is a shit show. Because then it's all of us are going to be like, I told you. A history of shit shows.
Starting point is 00:44:09 There's a history of shit shows. Always how it goes. And the one thing they don't want, so what they're going to do, the biggest mistake they made in Iraq, biggest mistake is they said, anybody in the Bathist party can't, can't,
Starting point is 00:44:19 we basically fired the whole military. And the military said to our commander said, if you fire us, dude, we're going to be part of the insurgency. Let us control the streets. And certain people that were in charge, in my opinion, didn't want that.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Did you see Trump's quote where he tried to kill me twice? They just got him first. Damn. It's like, whoa. Oh, yeah. Trump says what a lot of leaders think. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yeah. He's like, he tried to kill me twice. I just worry that like, Because, like, I feel like we have a history of like what I call the Pablo Escobar effect happens where you think you're taking out the top dog and everything's going to be okay. But that what happened with Colombia was now all the small gangs who were scared of Abu Escobar. It's not even bigger.
Starting point is 00:44:57 They did that with cartels. Then they're fighting in the streets and it gets even more violent than it actually was before with Pablo Escobar. Mexico used to be. Then Saddam Hussein, same thing. Libya was thriving. That's right. Mexico, Mexico was so safe.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Mexico, you had no problems because the drug, the drug cartels were controlled. by the top people at top who were really smart and controlled all the Sikarios. Then we put all in jail, killed them all, and all the Sikarios, the street dudes took over, started fighting with each other and you get this insanity. Is there a benefit to letting things like that happen? Or is that just an accident?
Starting point is 00:45:28 I don't think so, but I think there are certain countries that want chaos. Remember, there are certain countries that don't want a functioning country. Which ones do you think? I'm not going to say who. But there is an interest in, I believe there was probably an interest for certain countries to make Iraq, Syria, and the whole place a shit show.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And the reason is that way you just keep them totally stabilized. And yeah, you know, a million people die, but not our problem. And I think as Americans, when we do that, young people now, when I try to defend the United States, I'm almost 60. Because I grew up, I grew up overseas where America, whether you believe it or not, at least we believed Americans were trying to do the right thing. When you come into a country like Iraq, when you come into a country like Afghanistan, you know nothing about the history or the culture,
Starting point is 00:46:20 and you go in there and say, we're going to bring democracy, and you kill a million people on the other side, and you destabilize and fuck up everything and all these children. Guess what? But Americans ourselves, all of you young guys, go like this.
Starting point is 00:46:32 What do you mean we don't kill people? What makes us better? And I can't, and I go like this. I can't defend. I'm like, you have a point. And if you do that as a country, you lose the moral high ground. And now we get very cynical.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And now we're in a country for what? You can't be a country where it's just about might. You can't just be self-interest and kill a bunch of people. You've got to do, all of us believe, whether you're on the right or the left, that if you go in and kill a bunch of innocent people, it fucks us up. We lose morale as human beings, as Americans.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Americans don't feel good about their country. A lot of young Americans don't feel good about their country. I mean, that's the price. I mean, it's a politics. In 2008, Ron Paul, when he ran for president. He walked into the Republican National Convention and in front of Rudy Giuliani brought up the blowback theory, which I mean, I love Ron Paul. Like, I don't know if you ever heard the blowback theory, where it's basically, like, we've basically been in the Middle East since, what, the 1950? Earlier than that. Maybe before that. We took over for the British. If you're in these places,
Starting point is 00:47:36 like imagine if China came here and occupied the United States, up missiles on the Canadian and Mexican border. If we did something to them, it wouldn't be crazy for them to be like, well, what the fuck was that? I know. You know what I mean? Like, and if you keep on doing that, you just radicalize people. And like, if you kill the people. Imagine if, you know, let's say Iranians killed your whole family. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You're like going to have resentment. Game on. Yeah. You're going to have resentment. That's why that's why toward the end of the Iraq and Afghanistan war, they started, using those missiles that don't blow up,
Starting point is 00:48:13 but they're so targeted, they just kill the person in the car. Because guess what? To your point, when you level a city block and you say we can kill nine non-combatants for one combatant, people get a little upset.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Those were the Obama day. If your favorite restaurant became dust. Yeah, Obama did that. I still believe, people can criticize Trump as much as they want. I still believe at the heart of it. He's anti-war. He just doesn't like it.
Starting point is 00:48:38 That's what I hope. You know what I mean? Like, that was the thing I was trying to explain to my girl last night. Like, yes, it's so sad that people have to deal with these things all around the world. But every time we get involved, all of a sudden, it creates a lot of resentment. And then, like, the next thing I know, the buildings in my home city get airplanes falling into it. Yeah, and my kids are going to have to deal with the consequences. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Nothing to do with it. Yeah. But those young kids now are dealing with this shit. And you're going to ask you guys a question. You're going to create extreme radicals. Has it ever been any different in the world? Has it ever been any different? Have we never ever been at peace as people?
Starting point is 00:49:13 Can I say this? Why not? Can I say this? Who's going to make the changes? Because they make so much fucking money. Americans keep going to fuck over. I'm glad you brought that up. And maybe I am naive because I was young.
Starting point is 00:49:23 But the 90s felt like such a different time. Like, and maybe we weren't at complete peace. It wasn't. It was way worse. But it didn't feel like this. No, it did. It didn't feel like a 90s.
Starting point is 00:49:35 But in the 90s, in the 90s, in the 90s, it was all based off a lot. So maybe I'm just naive because I was, You were younger and just probably were ignorant of what was going on. But it just felt like the world is a different place. World War I think America was better. That's what I'm saying. We weren't so diverse because of social media.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah. Like I feel like America was a, you didn't have to think about politics 24-7. I know, but guess what? Maybe because I was young. In a way, there's more transparency. Back then, remember, in the 90s, having been alive without the internet, without Google,
Starting point is 00:50:03 we all believed what we were told. And I'm not arguing with what you're saying. I'm just saying how it felt at that age. We all believe what we were told as a group. So just as a small example, when we would see Arnold Sylvester Stallone in a movie, we would all go,
Starting point is 00:50:16 how the fuck is he that shredded? I got to start working out. I got to start working out. And then you realize, oh, but he was getting help with things like anabolic steroids. And he's running 10, I use a GH. Now all of you guys go,
Starting point is 00:50:29 when I see a muscular guy, again, it's so funny, I'm my generation, I think that they're natural. And you guys go, what are you talking about? Like, I don't know that. So there's a, naivete in a way for
Starting point is 00:50:40 people my age and older. But if you talk to my dad who's 85 was talking to them today, he's like, it hasn't been any different. World War I and World War II were brutal. The Korean War, the Vietnam War, brutal, brutal, dude. So you think the 90s weren't
Starting point is 00:50:56 different? We just had blinders on. Well, the 90s, though, we were in a cold war. They were doing it in good faith. Yeah. Like you, like now that we know, like Vietnam, all this shit, Operation Deserts, storm you realize it was this whole bullshit campaign like i feel like back then you didn't have to know like now now americans they question we go hold on hold on yeah before before we were just like yes sir
Starting point is 00:51:19 america first we're doing the right thing you find out we're not doing well all all of us are patriots right everybody here we're pretty conservative guys patrons all of us right now about this year on war we're all like this yeah usually usually americans like let's go but all of us are like rightfully we're going man i hope this isn't a rerun yeah right we're all like damn. And then all of them are like, who's, what's really going on? Where's the money? Who's staying in the benefit? What is this? We're starting to realize that every how politician votes for, whether a Democrat or Republican, you know why? Because when we make all these weapons for
Starting point is 00:51:55 these different countries in prosecutor war, you make a lot of jobs because they purposely assemble the F-35 in 49 states. If you're going to kill that program, you got people out of work. So your politician is going to go, hey, wait a minute, we got to do this. Blah, blah, blah. So that's the military industrial complex. Yeah, I guess back then we were just not as skeptical.
Starting point is 00:52:24 No. Has it ever been any different? That's it. Probably not. What else you got to? Have we evolved as human beings really? I don't think we have. We fight all the time.
Starting point is 00:52:33 We'll always fight. Look at social media. Look at everywhere. It just felt like a simpler time. And maybe this. And do you wonder, is that, was it a better time or was it? It was a way better time. Like, it felt better, but then again, was it better?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Suicide was down. Autism, way down. What the fuck that leads to? Social media, the kids don't have the stress that they have now. Social media is terrible. Social media, it's all because of social media. I think it's the devil, man. It's kind of sad.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I feel like my generation had the last best generation of social media to real life, like, separation. because like you would go on my space when you got home from school you would check your messages and comments that's it and then you'd go back to life you weren't connected to this it wasn't your life social media wasn't a connection of your life right i do have a prediction though people are talking about ai and two years from now we're all going to be out of jobs i think i think it's complete horseshit and i'll tell you why because AI like this whole idea is a real AI yeah yeah but i'm saying AI like it's going to take our jobs do you know how much energy it requires to have
Starting point is 00:53:36 these computers, like the energy is insane, the infrastructure. And this guy, I can't remember with he'll get there, but not in our lifetime. No, thank you. We don't have to worry about it. I don't think so. I was talking to one of my best friends, my friend, he lives in New York, works in AI. And I said, is this real AI? And he goes, no. He goes, what you're using is a glorified Google searcher for you. Correct. That that auto corrects, it's a glorified auto correct that searches faster and just pulls information faster. Basically just like a producer for your life that just like corrects the things. He's like real AI is not going to be. He's like what is what like I guess we consider AGI is not going to be released to the general public. That would be mayhem. He goes, they're just letting us
Starting point is 00:54:19 have general like this is an auto correct. Like it's basically just like correcting what you questions. You answer certain questions for you. But like it's nothing more than that. It's also like I don't see Leo versus Danny Glover. It's not actual. They put it to. together. Yeah, it's not actual artificial intelligence. You're talking to a chatbot. But all of us too, also, all of us, it's so funny. Like, now you can see anything. You can see a mountain line, jump through a window and grab somebody. And all of us go like this. We just go boring. It's not real. Boring. We see a girl, like unbelievable looking and you're like, that's AI. Slipped. We just don't like it. None of us like that shit. It's like, it's like,
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Starting point is 00:56:42 Can I say, you know what it reminds me of? Do you remember when Charlie Sheen was really going off the edge? Yeah. That's how this feels like, yeah. I give you watching. He was sober. He was good for such a long time. He got married, has kids.
Starting point is 00:56:54 What the fuck happened? He's just, um. Well, he, uh, him and his ex, he has some situations. Yeah, but he got through that. Then he has a new girl and he has kids. Has he gotten through it? though? Isn't he being sued by F.A. Twigs or whatever? Well, he put his hands on.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, but it's still going on, right? I don't know if it's still going on. I think he settled that. Play it chin? Yeah. This is Channel 5 News, by the way, with Andrew Callahan. I mean, boy, I haven't experienced for a while, but I'll be honest with you, big gay people are scary to me.
Starting point is 00:57:23 What do I mean? When I'm, like, standing by myself and three gay dudes are next to me touching my leg, I get scared. He has very small. He's very small. That's homophobic, then I'm that. Yeah. That happened a lot. No, it just happened one time recently.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Well, that's why I got arrested. Oh, okay. So you were sort of being groped and surrounded. I'm not going to say that because my lawyer said, oh, fuck, dude. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. We can make up. Andrew Kellogghead. I am wrong for touching anyone ever.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And that's the end of my statement on this whole. Shit. Sounds good. Cool. Moving back to like what kind of things would set off that Napoleon complex. Being challenged, my masculinity being challenged me, touch my girls, just my kid or, you know. He's a smart, talented dude. The other thing is he was molested as a child actor. That's, that's where this stems from. I mean, I didn't know that. Yeah, I mean, that's why he's like this. Really? I mean, I don't know, but. Was he one of those? I don't know if that's a reason to be, you know, that crazy. I mean, you see how fucked up some of these former child actors are.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Have you seen, I actually feel bad. Have you seen what Amanda Bines looks like now? Yeah, she looks like so. Yeah, I think so. That kind of stuff does fuck you up. Never let your kid do child actors. I would say, oh no, poor thing. I would say Hollywood fucks you up.
Starting point is 00:58:53 You don't need molestation. Especially as an actor. She's also gone crazy. Oh, poor thing. Even the music is creepy. Like, I don't know what's going on. Can I see what she looked like before? Show Amanda Bines before.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Poor thing. But that's somebody who's lost their mind, dude, for a lot of reasons. Hollywood did that to a lot of people. And she might have been a little crazy to begin with. On all that? Sure, she might have been a little crazy to begin with. She was normal and got raped as a young kid. I don't know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:59:25 There's a whole documentary about that. I forgot what's that Nickelodeon. So she went through, she got molested and all that as a kid. I mean, no one could ever say it's a guarantee, but, you know. Is that what she said? Yes. Oh, well, then, yeah. And Drake Bell.
Starting point is 00:59:39 They'll fuck you up for life. Drake Bell is another one. These people aren't just going crazy because they're really mad. Some people do, but she's, yeah, she got, she got fucked up for life. My father asked you if I went out sex with him. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that'll fuck your whole life up. I mean, look.
Starting point is 00:59:54 She was so talented back then. Dude, she was massive. She was awesome. When I was a kid, she was the comedy actress. She's the man? She was the movie. All that was huge. All that.
Starting point is 01:00:03 All that. Amanda show. It was basically like the, the kid's version of Mad TV. You forget how big Shia LaBuff was, though, man. I used to watch him on Even Stevens. Even Stevens. Such a good actor.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Such a good actor. Movie holes are huge, man. I will say this, and I'm sure you guys have, you guys know Hollywood better than most people. What percent chance if one of your kids were like, I want to be a child actor? Not happening. I worked with a number of child actors.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I was on Seventh Heaven. I was on the Goldbergs. I was in schooled. So I saw these amazingly talented kids. kids come through. And the thing about being an actor in Hollywood when you're a kid that people don't realize is that you're on set all day and you're homeschooled. So whenever there's a break, you get homeschooled for 15 minutes at a time. Typically, the kids that make it in Hollywood are super smart, super disciplined, but they don't grow up with anything like a bunch of kids
Starting point is 01:00:57 in a school. They don't do sports. I had to teach a 14-year-old. And I hope I'm not speaking out of term, but when I was on schooled, I had to teach a 14-year-old, Baba, how to throw a ball. He had never thrown a ball. He was a 14-year-old boy. He didn't have a dad. I think he had a dad, but they were stage parents. The kid grew up on sets.
Starting point is 01:01:15 When I tell you, he didn't have to throw a ball. I'm not joking. We had to get him to throw a ball. And they said, can you teach him out of throw a ball? So I was trying to teach him out of throw. And I went, guys, he doesn't have to throw a ball. Now, I can't imagine that. I just didn't grow up that way.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You understand? So I think a lot of times your upbringing is so weird. Well, especially when you're the breadmaker of the family and you're eight. Yeah, and you're growing up around adults. There's a lot of pressure. And you're constantly surrounded by adults. Like, it's not a childhood. It's not a childhood.
Starting point is 01:01:44 It's not a childhood, you want. That's probably so easily they get, I mean, I mean, not even just, like, taking advantage of in that sense. But I'm sure, like, their family is taking advantage of their money and the colleague. It's not even that. It's just weird to grow up that way. It's just not normal. It's not normal.
Starting point is 01:01:58 It's not a life you'd want for your kids. You grow up, when think about how much you learned, like just being around your friends, getting roasted, playing sports, just being, dating, just the politics of high school. You know, making great friends for life. Yeah. That shit is all taken. When you're a child actor, I say to every parent who says to me, my kid is this, and I go, please just let them be kids and then let them practice singing and dancing.
Starting point is 01:02:24 When they're older, put them in that shit this time. It just seems dangerous to be putting your kids into that, especially like with those documentaries coming out, like basically. pedopholes in the Nickelodeon program. Some people do it though. Some people come through it and they crush it. Not Justin Bieber, Timberlake, Justin Timberlake.
Starting point is 01:02:44 He was on Mickey Mouse kid. A lot of these kids go through. But then you see Britney Spears swinging around knives while dancing. Oh, you see Britney Spears, you see there are so many. He's not doing great. No, he's so fucked up. But that's also because you've been famous since you were 14. That's lonely.
Starting point is 01:03:00 That is when you're 14. It really doesn't. work out for child actors. Right. Most of them are little. I don't think anybody who's treated like a superstar at that age, there's no way to deal with it. How do you deal with that?
Starting point is 01:03:10 Because you need a community. And I feel like if you grow up from show to show, your community is just whoever is on your cast for that show. It's not good. And that's not a real. You know, Jim Carrey said if this had happened to me, he was 33. He said, if this happened to me when I was 19, I would have, I would have just jumped off a bridge.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Have you seen his face? Yes. Dude, I was hoping. The amount of people that, okay. The conspiracy there is need to chill the fuck out with saying he's a clone. It's a campaign for a mask too. Dude, you know what this is? Can I tell you? This is called filler.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Yeah. I was, when I got my eyelids done, the nurses said, have you thought about any filler? And I said, no, nor will I. But she was like, it's really good. It's like, you know, but this is what you get. Do this conspiracy there is. There's conspiracy there's going, oh, they replaced Jim Carrier the clone. ball first off if you make a clone it's going to be a baby you have to start the clone at the
Starting point is 01:04:06 same year he was alive have you never heard of plastic surgery i mean dude that's serious potox and phil i wrote it and i researched it and i practiced it like how's he make the funny faces it's uh my forehead doesn't move everybody like talking a thousand miles an hour up there receiving their awards and and i was like i'm dead but and I made mistakes. Oh, he was like a novice. But I felt a lot of love and I felt a lot of appreciation that I tried.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I just think the words are. Do the comments. That ain't him. Look at those cheeks. That's a lot of filler. That's a bummer. I can't wait to get filler, guys. You're such a lot of way.
Starting point is 01:04:50 No, I'm not going to get filler. I'm going to be old like this. And every time I look at them, I get it though, I'm 59. I feel so good because I'm doing tea. My energy, I had such sick shows. I come off stage. I'm hanging out with a bunch of young people like George Jenko.
Starting point is 01:05:04 You do see more energized lately. Bro, I look in the mirror, though. I'm like, I look in the mirror and I go, fuck. The energy's good, dude. My energy's good, Baba. How do you work out? Things are ways to well. My shoulders are just a little fucked up, but my workouts feel really good.
Starting point is 01:05:19 They do. I just had so much energy. I don't need, I'm back to that guy. You never had low energy, though. I never had low energy. But I was starting to need naps and shit. Yeah, you sleep a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Not really. You nap religiously. I nap 20 minutes a day because it's good for you. You're the most serious person I've ever been on tour with that. Your sleep is the most important. Oh yeah, I'll sleep. I'll sleep eight hours. I need to have to get that.
Starting point is 01:05:46 No, no, it's just because I, from experience, we, if you're doing six hours, you're doing six hours. Be cool. He's also 60, man.
Starting point is 01:05:55 He's not like some young whippers. He needs fucking eight hours. I know. Naps drive me nuts. It's true. I can't nap. If I nap, I wake up like I came out of a coma. I don't know who the fuck I am. Where the fuck I am. I don't know. I've never felt better after a nap. Never. Oh, it's so good for you. No, but you do 20 minutes. The problem is people sleep too long.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I can't. How do you sleep for 20 minutes? Because I'm just going to panic about this is from I have 19 minutes. Leading sleep expert in the world. 20 minutes. And it's a great. How old are you? I'm 36. You don't need a fucking. It's the best thing for you. It's the best thing for your health. He doesn't know anything. It's the best thing for your health. I go all day. Zero problems.
Starting point is 01:06:32 It's the best thing for your health. You don't need a nap. When you're older. But Bubba, you sleep. You go to bed every night at the right time. You wake up, you get your good sleep. You work out like a motherfucker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:40 So you're healthy. Yeah, there's no doubt. But if you don't need it, you don't need it. That's what I'm saying. If you need 20 minutes as a recharge, it's great for you. I just feel like shit from it. And then when I do, I've tried the alarm thing. And it's just me constantly and, oh, fuck, now I have 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:06:53 So they find that if you just lie down, even if you lie down and you snooze, it's good for you. I mean, most of the one, kids are right? Yeah. You get your nap then, no? Yeah. We have kids. There's no nap.
Starting point is 01:07:07 You have nap time, right? There's, you got, you got downtime. I got three times. Kids don't give a fuck. There's no naps. When I come home, nap. First of all, that's not, if you're, like, present, like, nonstop dad, there's, there's no.
Starting point is 01:07:20 There's no. There's a lot of you time, no? They're up at five. No, they go to school, but they're up at 5.30, 6 o'clock, and you're getting up. So it doesn't matter what time you went to bet. Naps are like when I heard that like I had to repost this because it was two guys we like Huberman and what's the other Chris Willem? They're talking like optimizing their sleep and they need this and this.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Someone just goes two childless sleep health experts. I'm not exactly going to take that advice. I have five kids. I had to repose. I'm like yeah, what the fuck, dude? So true. Tell us about no sleep. When you have kids.
Starting point is 01:07:57 What the fuck out of my face? Optimizing my sleeve. Ideally, I got up at 12.30 last night because my kids are optimized when you're alone. Oh, do you got to optimize your lifestyle when you're just by yourself? Ideally, getting as much sleep as you can is excellent. And ideally, if you can get a nap, really good for you.
Starting point is 01:08:16 They tie it directly to people living longer. But yeah, life gets in the way. Kids get in the way. But if you can get your sleep, good. What do you got, Jim? I'm fucking with you. but real quick also brunner you do like drink diet coax coffee brian doesn't drink actually i have one cup of coffee in the morning i don't know how the
Starting point is 01:08:35 fuck you nap you caffeinate more than most people that i've ever met you two cups of coffee bubble what do you know you do espresso i do an espresso i do an espresso i might do two espressos in the morning and that if you have a show yeah yeah and you could nap after drinking coffee yeah like in the middle of the day no way at four in the afternoon if i how much caffeine do you would you say say two to 400 milligrams caffeine. Two cups of coffee bubble or two espresso's. Yeah? I never do more than that.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And you could still nap after doing that? Yeah, because I do it at eight in the morning and then I sleep. Yeah, it wears off by then. All right. You guys want to cover this? Chin looks like a napper. If you're going to... I'm napper. Chin's a napper. I love naps. It's good. How long have you been focusing? I don't know if there's a boring question.
Starting point is 01:09:19 By the way, I don't nap a lot. I mean, I'd like that. It sounds like you nap all tough. Where's it's like? You feel like that's why you have the energy you do at your age is because you've focused on sleep for so long? No, he's also 165 pounds. Yeah, I've always had energy. Have you ever met a person that's thin that doesn't have energy? I've always had crazy energy.
Starting point is 01:09:35 It doesn't go a fat person, sure. A skinny, do you know anybody skinny with no energy? I mean, I don't drink. I don't smoke. I've always worked out. He takes care of himself. Like, you're not going to. Like, you used to laugh at me on the road.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I'd be like stretching. I'd sleep. He was like, I had a whole routine. He'd be like, this fucking guy. I have so many funny videos. I do yoga in the morning. Did I show you the videos that I have of you? Like what it's like Torre McBrion and it's you.
Starting point is 01:10:00 It's Brian just in the yard, shirtless, just with his toes in the grass. I do yoga, I do yoga every morning, like every morning. He's just out in the sun with his toesies in the grass. I've been doing that for 30 years. What's this, Chin? RIF, that just happened over the weekend. This is probably one of the biggest things that happened. And Arm and Syracian versus Georgia, how do you say his last name?
Starting point is 01:10:23 Polis? Polius. Some kind of weird. He's Greek. pull this yeah so this is that his brother and dad came in to save him looks like he punched him and then he knees him it's tough too right because it's a open mat platform so there's no way to really stop this because you shouldn't have to stop this because the octagon you have a cage it can pull guys down yeah we shouldn't have to stop someone getting punched on the face and arresting they
Starting point is 01:10:59 don't need to develop some sort of border around this i'll tell you what syrucian is about as relevant as it gets right now. Oh, yeah. That's all we're talking about. Undeniable. The UFC people are like, is the UFC in discipline? Well, how are you going to discipline him?
Starting point is 01:11:12 He's a star. You're hilarious. But what, how are you in discipline? Give him Justin Gagee? Oh, no. No, no. The winner of Max Holloway, Charles O'Olavera? Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:11:21 What are you going to do? Let me say something. Let me say something. Let me say something, though. When Sean Strickland fought someone outside of the Octagon and it was an amateur bout where he started throwing a punch to someone,
Starting point is 01:11:33 he was suspended for a period of time for fighting outside of the UFC. Yeah, but it was like three months. Look at Sean. Yeah, but that's a big problem for him trying to make his comeback run right now. Let's say the UFC spends for three months. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Ilya, I'm not going to fight in three months anyway. He's not going to fight in three months anyways. So it's a slap on the wrist. Oh, no. Literally, how are you going to discipline the best 155 on the planet, not named Elliott to Boyer?
Starting point is 01:12:01 No. I bet they do nothing. No way. You think they choose. give him and Sean two different treatments? I think Sarukian, that's just a little, you know what that was? It was a little, he got heated in competition. Nobody's going to discipline him.
Starting point is 01:12:13 And it's also not part of the UFC, right? Well, neither was Strickland's though. Strickland. But Strickland was cornered a guy and then jumped in the octagon, the cage, and punched the guy. He punched that. Also, Strickland doesn't know his case when he's talking about the most offensive shit in the world.
Starting point is 01:12:27 But also, I feel like this, there will be more cool. Because it's not like that Georgia was going to press charges. Right. Nobody's really hurt. Right. Like, I don't, it was a scuffer. How are you going to discipline Armin Sarukin? What are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:12:38 It's a scuffle. How dare you? Here's a super fight with his law. That is. I think it's the opposite where they keep on, this guy, first he punches someone in the audience on his way to a fight. That was his first. That was a bad look. That was a bad look.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Then, you know, like he fucks up his neck the night before a championship belt fight. That's another. You had to wait. You anti-Sarukin or something, bro? No. I like the rookie. No, you're missing it all, though. So the punch in the fan, not ideal, right?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Not ideal. This, not ideal. Headbutton hooker, not ideal. Oh, I forgot about the headbutton hooker. The UFC can deal with all that. The number one thing, why they put him on the sidelines, he missed weight. It's the number one, no, no, especially during a title fight. You miss weight.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And how long is that suspension, not suspension, but that punishment had been going? But here's my thing. So they were like, all right, we're going to discipline you. You're fighting Dan Hooker in the main event. Oh no. Let me twerk this guy up real quick. Get paid easy payday for them. Then also, oh no, you're okay.
Starting point is 01:13:41 You're in discipline me. I can't fight. Let me go on the best marking campaign in UFC history. I'm going to go on all the biggest shows. In all fairness. People are going to love me. He's fucking everyone loves him now. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:13:52 So it's like, oh no. Don't make me sit out another year and build my brand. Yeah. He's getting paid more now than ever. Grantee doesn't need the money. No, but still. Fucking Bruce Wayne. I know.
Starting point is 01:14:03 he's getting more, he's more relevant than ever. So in the UFC, he needs stars. He's also smart and funny. Like, it's crazy to be that funny in a different language. It's unbelievable. You saw he did stand up. He should. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:14 He did. He's hilarious. No, but the thing is, he's the best 155 or not named Emilio Toporia. Yeah. By far. That's right. It's not even close. He's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 01:14:24 He's doing everything right now. He's amazing. Maybe you're right. I guess the only, my point is, how would you discipline him? By making them wait longer. And who do you feed him? Who, name somebody, BSD, enjoy that. He fucking rips his dick off.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Justin Gagee, God, my buddy, come on. The winner of Max Holloway, Charles O'Levara, okay. I would say that that would probably be his, I mean, obviously, the best fight is going to be Ilya, but I wouldn't mind seeing him against Max Holloway or something like that that could strike. It'd just build his name bigger. That's what I'm saying, oh no. So what you're saying is basically anything, any punishment makes him his brand.
Starting point is 01:15:09 He's un-punishable. And then the outcry, let's say they do, like we're suspecting him for two years. Dude, they can't afford to. They don't have any stars. It's also, he's also, name a bigger star than him right now. Poetan. Maybe. John.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Islam hasn't been the news on a hot second. His, his manager spoke for him, says, we have something cooking that's even bigger than Ian Gary. Yeah. I just want to see him fight his mom. But as far as like doing it themselves and not going through a manager, name somebody bigger than Armin right now. Who's put on a better PR campaign in the last fucking six months? Strickland last week, Strickland last week, two weeks ago against Fluffy.
Starting point is 01:15:48 That was big news. Yeah. As far as consistent everyday content. I will say, I don't know if Strickland's a star. Yeah. Strictlin's a star. You think so? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I know so. Yeah. I just feel like he's not talked about by like the young kids. Like he's not talked about. in the same way as like an armin is right now interesting see i'd say i'd say well i get more question about strickland than i do arman you see armin on fucking aiden ross's show you're not going to see that's the young demo that's what i'm saying like the young demo will get privy to him but as far as you're not seeing a sean strickland edit on ticot you know what i mean no but that's not his demo
Starting point is 01:16:23 yeah his but i think sean strickland's demo is like the right right that prior i'm going to watch the ufccc but they know they love sean strickland like like the stars that i see see, none of them are American. It's Armin, Ilya. Poton. Poetan. And Poton less lately just because he's been out of the... Once they announce the White House, get ready. Who is going to be? John Jones. Hold on, keep going. Finish. Hamzat Shemayev. Yes. There's not many, Bubba. You could say Max. Patty. Marab. You say Marab? Patty. Patty. Paddy.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Not right now. Actually not. I disagree. I think Marob's huge. Marob's doing... The Nina stuff? No, he's doing commercials. Did you see the commercial he did for H&R Block? No, no. Oh, there's a whole H&R Block campaign where, like, you could get your taxes done free if you could tap out the guy who works at the desk. And then Marab's the new guy working at H&R Block.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Maraub is huge right now. That's it. Let's take it one down. If I could tap you out, would you do my taxes for free? No, but I'm sure he will. Oh. He works here? You need a tax pro.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Yeah. Oh. He'll be this. That's fucking great. Yeah. Dude, this is great. He's the best. If I can tap you out.
Starting point is 01:18:01 We saw him do the fucking. This guy plays it great. This guy's great. That guy goes, no, I won't. But he will. You saw him do the hot tub commercial. Like he was. selling hot tubs to try and get uh peter young he's like i know your back hurts so i'm here
Starting point is 01:18:14 working at this hot tub company now he's great he's great he's a star man yeah he's great i put him as the seventh then after that it really go really goes downhill of naming a star there's no americans yeah strickland's your biggest face strick she'll go is he the biggest no i mean john jones but do you count john jones not right now um strickland's why you're biggest Draw. Who's going to be on the White House? But he also, like you said,
Starting point is 01:18:44 only has one fight. I put Gaichi and John kind of the same. It's like, we got one more. Hurrah. Yeah, we have no Americans. Yeah, Max Holloway, one or two more.
Starting point is 01:18:54 You think Max is almost done? Oh, yeah. You think so? Yeah. Maybe two left, two supervised left? Damn. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Think about it. Who else we got? So basically, we have to hope to God that Gable Stevenson is the next big thing or else and jacobo smith jacobie and or bo nickle no nickel bo nico needs to get going bo nico needs to get cooking you think he's had enough cook time i don't
Starting point is 01:19:22 know i'm just saying he needs to start winning we got to get going does he have a fight coming up does he have he's supposed to be on the white house guard who's he even there's he is i can't see how that happens would they fight colby kevinton if it's true what you said that there's no prelims who the fuck is a good enough fight. But now today the UFC said there might be prelimbs. It doesn't sound like they know what the fuck's going on. I'm starting to feel like they don't actually have the fight planned. I think they haven't planned. I think they have, I bet you they have the entire card plan except for the main event. I bet you they don't have what maybe there might be one, the co-main event and main event. That's what they're waiting on. They're waiting on John
Starting point is 01:20:03 to agree to fight Poetton at heavyweight because they want that light heavy weight. And if John's being too difficult to negotiate with, which they're going through negotiations now. John said that if John, for whatever reason, it's just a pain in the ass and wants too much money, then you're going to get Cyril gone, Poeton as your main event. That's your guy, gone, right? Yeah. How do you feel he does against Poton though? I think he does very well. Yeah? I think he beats Poton. It's a good fight. It's a good fight. My thing with Poton is, heavyweight, heavyweight's different. Heavyweight's different where we know Poton fucking hits like a Mac truck, but we don't see him hit a heavyweight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:41 And he's not exactly a speed guy. No. Like he's a timing guy. So the speed isn't going to be that, like, Cyril Guns pretty quick. He'll be faster than John. He's not faster in Tom Aspinall. Is he bigger than Poton? Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Cyril. Cyril's big. Cyril's like walks around, I think, 2.65. He's very big. No, he's like 240. They'll be similar, but he's a natural heavyweight. Yeah. He's a natural heavyweight.
Starting point is 01:21:04 He's a very different. situation for Poton. Damn. Yeah. That's a big fucking guy. Yeah. Who knows this guy? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Some giant man. Cyril Gons, a much better matchup for Poton than John Jones. He's a blue belt. He's grappling. He's trash. That's a much better match. I don't know if you guys agree with this.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I'd rather watch John Jones versus Poton just because of how cool if I is. But it's less of a fun fight stylistically than Gone versus Poetan because watch two strikers bang out because John could probably. I think you're going to see Poetan on his back a lot with John. I don't think you see it a lot if it happens, it's over. He'll just crucifix him and turn them out. So it's not much of a fight. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:21:56 It might be a boring fight. I'm way more excited about it. No, I don't think it's boring because you beat Cyril Gan, not a champ, really hasn't beat anybody that good. He's just always the guy that we got, he's never, he loses. every big fight, right? He's never got over that hump. So you beat him, it's like, okay, cool. You beat John Jones with grace of all time. The magnitude of winning that fight sets him on a trajectory like we've never seen before. I'm agreeing with, I think it's the better legacy fight. It's the fight,
Starting point is 01:22:22 because here's the thing. So let's say Poetan fights John and he loses. He gets taken down, pound it out. John only said this is his only fight. White House will be his last fight ever. So John's going to go away, vacate the interim belt. Okay. Now Alex. gets to fight Cyril Gahn for another interim belt. So the Cyril Gond fight doesn't go anywhere. That's always going to be there. That's like a back pocket. Poton's going to win-win.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Okay, I got taken down my Griswalt time. He pound me me out. All right, fuck grappling. Give me Cyril Gond. You can still be a triple champ. And then you're going to wait until Tom Asperon comes back for my surgery, hopefully. Would you think that Cyril Gond, minus the eyepokes would have beaten Tom Aspen?
Starting point is 01:23:00 No. You don't? No. He seemed to have been, have been, oh, for a round. He was doing decent. This is Cyril Gond. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:23:10 What's that? This zero-gone's record. T-K-O. I mean, to put out Derek Lewis is pretty tough. Is it? Is it? Big out of shape, dude with one-one one-one.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Is it, by the way? I'm trying to get a zero something. That's true. Nah, but you make a point. I mean, the fucking guy knocks everybody out. The question is, is it, it's harder. It's easier to knock out guys who are not high. level strikers, right?
Starting point is 01:23:38 Compared to someone like who's been striking only like gone. Right. You can, you, but that's why like poton. Yeah, motherfucker's in a set. But here's the question.
Starting point is 01:23:49 And usually it doesn't. He's 240, by the way. I know, but he's, but he's never really fought it that way. So it's like, does that, he has like when he touched Strickland or he touches Izzy,
Starting point is 01:23:58 it's over, right? Now is it this going to be the same when you hit a 255 pound? Yeah, you guys are different. Because then you're, now you're, you're staying in the pocket with Cyril Ghan, who's 255 pounds naturally.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Yes. And so does that left hook cut the lights off? Right. Usually it does. And Poetan does get hit, doesn't he? Kind of like, he's head. Yeah. Is he knocked?
Starting point is 01:24:17 Is he knocked him out? Huh? Yeah. Yeah. So, and he does keep his, he's got that thing with his hands down. It's a bad example because think of when Connor fought Nate. Like, but when he's fighting 55, he'd touch dudes that they're out. He landed flush on eight.
Starting point is 01:24:30 How many times? Yeah. It's a bigger dude. And he would drop him, but he's not out. He still gets up and fights. Big guys can take. Like you got fucking your nose crushed by I mean I'm a bad example because they got knocked out
Starting point is 01:24:41 But there are guys But there are guys when you have a big head like that You can take so much more punishment Because Crocop hits you and shatter your nose Like big dude But then again Pelotan is also big right He's got a giant head But he's not naturally like Cyril Gond
Starting point is 01:24:57 I don't think Sierra Gons like our version of the NFL And here's a good example Cyril Gond could never get down to 85 Probably couldn't get down at 205 You could neither He's a lean to six, right? I also do wonder if do you think Poetan did get knocked out because he was sucking so much weight to get down to there? Probably, but also.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Think how big you is to cut that the weight. The most important thing is to remember is that he or Cyril Gondon guys like this big could never get down to 205. They couldn't get down to 12. Literally, you tried. You don't have the bone structure to get to 180. The lightest you got was like 228. Yeah, 220. You were starving yourself.
Starting point is 01:25:30 And Cyril Gondi, he's lean 255. So like 205. It's very lean. It's not even an option. Yeah. It's a different. 85. Fuck all.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Yeah. Yeah. 13% body fat at 248. It's not happening. That's, yeah. Yeah, it's not happening. But Poetan killed himself making 85. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Killed himself. Yeah. Poton making 85 killed himself. I think the knockout with Izzy, he could chalk it up. Dude, I've seen, I've seen Poetan in person. He's so close in person. He's so big. He's fucking your size.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because when you cut a lot of weight, your brain needs the water, right? It's a lot easier to get that. Listen, man. He keeps all that water in his ass. he's a fucking camel. Do you see his ass?
Starting point is 01:26:06 No. There's nobody with a better tailpiece. He's cheeked up. Cheeked up. Crazy. He looks like a praying mantis. He looks like a POTO with a BBL. He's a fucking praying mantis.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Look at Poton. He's got Brazilian butt. I actually... I like the Reddit. The dude is trying not be gay. Just goes, Poton has some nice glute. Look at his ass. He is Brazilian for sure.
Starting point is 01:26:27 To me, that's the body. I actually like his body more than everybody else. He has a butt like a Brazilian woman. I just like, I think he's just fucking made a stone. Is that not Photoshopped? The first one looks a little bit. This is his real asser here. My thing is, is I want him to win
Starting point is 01:26:42 because of the greatness. Like to beat John Jones would be, it'd be the greatest run of all time. Can we witness it? Could he do it? If John fancy, because John also gets it. Yeah. And also, but Poiton would just have to not get taken down. Can he stop the taked?
Starting point is 01:26:59 Not for long. There's never going to be a world where I could root against John Jones. What's that? As a New York wrestler, like he's an upstate. section nine guy this one's tough for me because I also love John and I like the goat and the greatness so I don't want to see him lose either you don't like your thing with all fighters
Starting point is 01:27:14 is you can't stand dirty fighters and people that don't have heart that's your thing heart's the biggest thing yeah it bothers you John Jones has only not had heart in one fight right he's had heart in every fight which one what was the dude I saw that he kind of lost
Starting point is 01:27:30 stomach Reyes he just didn't want to be there yeah that's a heart thing, right? He was going through some shit. No. John Jones, if you saw that fight and I was there, that, remember when he fought Gustafsson? That was your, you were on that card. You were 165, yeah. Bro, I was there and when we went backstage and I saw Gustafinson, and then you, I didn't see John, but you saw John in the stretch of shaking. His lips were like out to here. Like the end, take him in the hospital. That guy almost died. Well, that fight was the most
Starting point is 01:27:56 heart besides Boris Griffin. He didn't even train for that. What do you mean he didn't train for that? He barely trained. He trained like three times. times. Look at these two. Look at these two. But you know what? That's a bad picture because when I saw Gustafin afterwards, this whole side of his face was purple. I looked away because I felt ashamed. I didn't want to look at him that way. That fight is the most hard I've ever seen besides Forrest Griffin versus Stefan Bonner. But now John Jones is the different. The Dominic, right? The dominant. How dare you? Stephen Bonner versus Forrest Griffin. A lot of heart, but not too very skilled. Alexander Gustafin and John like a skill. But their fight was. But their fight was all.
Starting point is 01:28:34 All heart. Didn't you? Yeah. Didn't you spar? Gus is in? Oh, my God, dude. And you were like, and you guys drove back and you didn't say shit in the car? He was so fucking good.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Even Hamzot said that. Yeah. Because Hamzot used to train with Gus Finn all the time. He's like, John's the greatest because he beat the monster, Gustavn. I used to train with him and realize how good Gus Finn was. Getsvin was so fucking good. His striking? Everything.
Starting point is 01:28:57 So you got in there and sparred with you guys. Wrestling was off the hook. Cardio was crazy. Huge. Every bit as big as you, right? way bigger you six six I'm a John Jones stand but that Reyes fight that was
Starting point is 01:29:10 the least John Jones heart I've ever seen in a fight he just didn't want to be either he talks about it he said like I was looking at the the door being like I just want to get out of here yeah but also that was a time too he didn't have many contenders for him so just give me these random dudes he's like like thinking about the Anthony Smith
Starting point is 01:29:26 fight you know that which is weird Don McRez who I forgot about Anthony Smith Dos Santos remember the Santos fight Yeah. There was like a few fights there which just like John's like, okay. Dude, look at John. I don't know who these guys are.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Yeah. He looks young there. Yeah, he does. I remember the first fight watch. I remember the first fight that I saw him. I was such a big Matt Hamel fan. And then seeing what the fuck he did to Mahmell, I was like, what the, technically he lost that fight. Look at Rogan, looking at those two.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Look at Rogan, looking at those two guys. He always does that. It's like, I think Joe's bigger now than he. was then. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. He's this thick.
Starting point is 01:30:08 I saw Joe on stage of the night. I'm like, he's big as fuck now. He's getting big. Yeah, he got big. Very thick. Good, too. His comedy is fucking. The thing that he did at bottom of the barrel was so good.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Right. I didn't see it. What else got, Jinstir? I think we're good, don't. You've been going for two hours. That's the time. What time is it? Two?
Starting point is 01:30:33 Jesus. well guys I was about to come at you just now dude you're about to jump at me man I was about to fucking use my shit guys I thought I was got the whole Brian back I was really getting worried yeah that would have real good for us
Starting point is 01:30:47 imagine Brendan just fucking snapped and just said fuck this I would have said sorry bro and I would have been like this like hey what are you doing I would just look at you I care about you but there's nothing I can do we'd still be friends the thing is Brennan I would still be friends it wouldn't matter and be like yeah fuck
Starting point is 01:31:04 luck brother. I love you, Brian, but I got to get out of it. It would be a bad situation. Although I've been training March 5th and damn this weekend you're in my hometown. March 5, 6 and 7 Denver, Colorado. Here we are. Let's go. Oh yeah, I'm going to be with you the 5th 6th and then you're doing Sunday. You're probably said Nick will be there Sunday. I'm headlining Sunday. Headlining Sunday. Brian's going to host for me. I sure am. I would if I was there. Jay should be there. Is he going to be there? Yeah, I think so. Nice. All right, guys.
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