The Fighter & The Kid - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen on Haters, Redemption & Reinvention | TFATK Ep. 1137

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

What happens when the internet turns on you?In this raw and unfiltered episode of The Fighter and the Kid, Bryan Callen opens up about the darkest chapters of his public life — and how he fought his way back. Brendan Schaub doesn’t hold back either, as the two dive into cancel culture, personal growth, and what it really takes to evolve when the world wants you gone. Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkFabletics - Go to http://fabletics.com/tftk and sign up as a VIP and get eighty percent off everything. That’s http://fabletics.com/tftk to sign up as a VIP and get eighty percent off everything. That’s Fabletics dot com slash TFTK.DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sports book app and use code FIGHTER. That’s code FIGHTER, bet five bucks and get 3 months of League Pass plus get $300 in bonus bets if your bet winsSignos - Go to http://signos.com/ and get $10 off select plans with code Fighter. That’s http://signos.com/, code Fighter for $10 off select plans todayHims - For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, ED, Weight Loss, and more, visit http://hims.com/fighterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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when you were a kid you were just bigger than everybody probably not like tiger no no you weren't no really no were you strong like tiger though no I mean I was strong when did you I was strong yes with last night tiger's wrestling yeah that's in and their kids like trying to they're doing two on ones and you know arm drags i hear the kid go jesus christ you're strong man because the kid's like trying to get away he's just like eating tea as these big polar bear mitt they're so big i just

last night i just grabbed my kid his hand i'm like dude look at your fucking meat well i love horay so last night i just see i just see t grabbed the kin they're supposed to be able to get out of the kid go jesus christ you're strong i started laughing man well you know like um i love i love the difference uh Shane Steiner was telling me, Shane is fucking really strong, right? He can bench 225, like fucking forever. He's just built like that.

And he said that he wrestled Ben Ascran. And Ben Askran went for a double leg. And Shane sprawled hard with his hips on the ground. Shane's been grappling for a long time. And Ben just put his head in Shane's, like, stomach, grabbed him around and just pulled him the fuck in. Would you think he was going to? That's hard to do on anybody.

Not a guy who's 220? Not at Ben's level. He's been wrestling in diaper since he was a little kid. Are you talking about the super rich guy that flights private? Is surprised? Still strong as fuck. Comparable for the average person, but for Ben Ascran? Well, as far as way lifting and all that.

Ben won the heisman of collegiate wrestling. Ben was an Olympian. Yeah, yeah. He's an Olympian. But I'm still saying that's not, no. That's, when somebody's an experienced grappler and they're 220 and they're low to the ground like Shane and really strong, he can lift all the weights, I've seen. him he lifts all the weights somebody's still grabbing you around there putting their head in

your thing and when you're in a full sprawl that's not easy to do i mean maybe it is easy work for guys that do it easy work easy work easy work i don't think that's how it goes yeah when you're that's how it's when you're a level wrestling on that level that's how good it's just we're not all built the same you know well i don't even think that's ben askeman's bill that's like i guess that's that's wrestling since you're a kid with tendon strength that's like raw hiding cable That he earned through years and years on the map. Yeah, it's a different kind of strength. So you sprawl, you don't think he knows how to navigate a sprawl?

There's a one way to navigate a sprawl, which is go around, go left or right. When you just fucking put your head in somebody's fucking thing, grab his hips and pull him right in. Boink, yep. I think you can probably do that. Yes, a lot of people can. Yeah. Some guys can do that. That's why I thought.

And Shane's a black belt and he, he's just a sturdy fella. Yeah. It was me, it'd be like, okay. There's a lot of sturdy fellas, is what I'm saying. saying. Love Shane. And he's, and he's had his sheriff's sturdy fellas. He's had a sheriff's sturdy fellas. It's a Tuesday for Ben. It's a Tuesday for Ben. It's life changing for you guys. Yeah. You know, like that's the difference. Well, if he grabs on you, yeah, that's, that's an Olympic wrestler. So an Olympic wrestler is going to put you on your back at will. Um, even Jorge Mazvedal,

the good thing about like, when you train is that you train with guys and you start to really see the difference, right? So with Jorge Mosvail, who'll fight anybody. And then I was talking about you, and you've had some scraps with some people who were smaller and got a little heated and forgot who you... Me? No, but just like in verbal scraps with certain people that didn't, who fought at lower weights? Oh, God. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then...

But that's what they do. Porre Mazzvedal, I said the coolest thing, he goes, yeah, well, that's Shab. He goes, he goes, that's a different ecosystem, man. Yeah, yeah, it's different. A different ecosystem. Yeah, yeah. I like that. Yeah.

And Tiger's probably feeling his oats there. When did you feel that, though? When did that start happening where you got bigger and stronger? Not really to probably, probably freshman or sophomore or college? Tiger's way big. By that time, you were big. No, I mean, six, three, two, 25?

Nothing freakish. Yeah. And I wasn't like that thick. I was skinny. Like teeth thick, like in his fucking... Yeah, pictures of you when you were a freshman in college, you were not big. Skinny neck, like, skinny neck, like teeth. Like, Tina's, was the fourth grade picture.

He's like, it looks like fucking mini Brock Lesnar. He's all, I'll send you the picture. He's all, I'm like, you're neck, dude. No, his neck and his, and his, and his, no, but he's, he's, he's his fucking hands, man. Yeah. He's, he's a Samoan. Yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a baby Samoan.

Yeah, you just, I just grab him. Like, look these fucking thighs, dude. Yeah. And he's like, wow. Are the strongest guys in football Samoans or, they depend. No, I mean, there's white boys are strong as fuck. It's a big old form. Boys.

It's not really a race thing. No. Some white boys. They're all freaks. If you make you there, you're freaks. Well, when you go to that farm, I was in farm country, and the mayor of that town was every bit as strong as anybody I've ever seen. He was as thick, a farm boy as I've ever seen.

Probably like German or some shit. Just stupid. That's how it goes, dude. It's how it goes. Yeah. Yeah, all the, all the toughest guys are probably in the NFL in terms of the strong, the, it defined tough. So, so, no, I mean.

And all, what I mean is this, so the probably the, when you look at Olympic waylifting is a great sport and it's really hard to get good at. And the Russians are great and everybody's really great. And then, and then if you look at UFC, you know, some great athletes. But tough sport in the world. Yeah, but if you, if you were to take the people in the NFL, they're the people, the, the world heavyweight champion in things, whether it's weightlifting, fighting, wrestling, is probably in the NFL. There are athletes in the NFL. Like, you wonder what Metcalf would do if he chose to be in the UFC. It's just, I don't know. You don't know, right? You don't know, right?

You don't know, because it's a lot to consider. It's so different. You're talking about two. It's so different. So it's like the Navy SEALs are like, even on that show they do now where they take, like, celebrities and putting through Navy SEAL, like, training.

Yeah, special force. Like camp, the Special Force show, I had a friend who was on it. Our boy, Rudy Reyes is the star of that. Yeah, yeah. So I have a friend who was on it. And she was like, you'll be surprised, like, because she was on Cam Newton season.

And I was like, he's the freak of all freaks. I mean, top five college football players all time, NFL MVP, freak. And she's like, when it came to like the strength stuff, he was, I mean, it was insane to watch. Like jumping on the helicopter, like everyone else, he just fucking jump right on, hung on. Yeah. And she's like, but then as he gets going, like the biggest guy, it's not good. Holder, endurance. There's just so many new factors.

That's why the Navy SEALs aren't the biggest dudes. Right. Like there's, and the Navy SEALs have talked about, the guys have been on Rogan. He was like, we've had guys come from crazy athletes, like Olympians,

all-American college guys, and they go into buds and certain things they crush it on. But then when they go and get super tough, it's just not, they're just not built for that. The cold breaks guys, sleep. That's like with fighting.

It's like the best athletes aren't the champions. They're usually not the best. it's usually the guys mentally yeah well i think athleticism is that way it's like we've talked about this a bunch but there's just something about i don't know what makes my homes he's physically gifted for sure super talented but he's just also his ability to process information under stress he just never panics yeah there's that yeah i don't know yeah fighting's just a different fucking animal fighting's a different animal it's just completely it's almost it's not even the same I also think football I guess it's a competition but I don't know if I call in certain

athletes do consider it a sport but if I it's it's not even a sport right it's fighting yeah again you can play football it's emotionally you can play football you can't play fight right so I wouldn't consider in the same category yeah you know yeah it's a personality trait man you can have problems huh a lot of problems a lot of a lot of problemos mm-hmm to be great you know look at the john jones all the problems savage you know savage it's just a different it's just a different thing you think he's chomping at the bit right now i think he'll fight at the white house yeah he'll fight perera though you'll see the i don't know if you've been paying attention what's going on i've even seen what's going on with all this gambling yeah you know what's weird

it's how some people are making a bigger story than it is great don't you're wrong illegal gambling and fixing fights is an issue. My thing, it's like when a guy gets caught with PDs, I'm like, yeah. Like with, like the, oh, you're not surprised. No. I'm surprised at somebody with, like, yeah, yeah. Hold on. Let's go.

But when you first see it, but when you talk about it, you're like, oh, yeah, of course that makes sense. So the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, you have like a whole team, right? So the guy was fixed in the NBA, those other four players on the court don't have any idea. Like, God, the fucking, this dude, Roseair sucks tonight, man. Like, he knows that passing you'd intercept at the baseline. What's he? So you can't really tell.

So it's tough to pull off and it's, it's, you can, and you're also. You're saying it's tough to pull off. It's tough to see if somebody's cheating. In the NBA, because there's certain, because. A lot of moving parts. Because you're also not, you're not affecting the game winner loss. You're affecting the prop bet. So does this guy get two steals?

Does this guy give over three turnover? Stuff like you can manipulate the propets so you're not losing the game and you can still win money. The UFC, it's one guy. It's one guy. And then also the NFL, NBA, MLB, I know they're trying to go international and stuff like that. No one's more international.

It may Premier League soccer like soccer, but as far as fighting goes, it's so international. And also you're dealing with a group of athletes, that are from the gutters, sir, that do have connections to some really evil and dark people. And you're dealing across all of the world. And these guys come up through some dark arts. And they have relations, like gangsters and fighters go together

like peanut butter and jelly. Always. Because we're outlaws. We play from the same, similar rules, but we're making a living in a more, you know, it's a sport. Kind of. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, there's, there's similar with the gangsters, yes, it goes hand in hand. So when, like, the kid who got Kai's from whatever, where's it with Dagestan? He's from Dagestan. He's from Brazil, isn't he? No. Well, there's a bunch of them. But the main guy, I think he's from, he has some connections there. I know he fights out of the Midwest.

He sounds like he looks like he's Armenian. Dolgarian is an Armenian name. So he's out of Russian or Armenian. this is Armenian first thing that pops up. This is Armenian, you know, so, but then just hold on real quick. So in MLB, NFL, NBA, every player that's starting that you see is making seven figures typically. Every single player that you're watching on Sunday,

they're making money. MLB for the more, there's some, you know, pitchers, whatever, they're new to come up from the minors, they're not making as much. Either way, though, NFL, NBA, they're all making seven figures. that dude from the Armenia, where the fuck he comes from, and some of these other guys from these dark parts of the world, they're making $25,000. That's right.

So when someone goes up to him who is in those dark arts and goes, hey man, if you can just throw this fight, you don't have to tell anybody, just throw this fight, we'll give you $100,000. It's a huge life-changing difference for them. Yeah. So of course it happens. Of course.

Of course. Same thing with PDs. Like, I hate to tell you this. Like, your favorite fighter, the only reason he's not doing it is because he's afraid to get caught. Of course. If I came up to your favorite fighter, I went, hey, man, I get the scientist, works with Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, the elite of the elite.

There's, it's, it's little, you will never get caught. It's impossible. You take this, you're going to punch harder, move faster, and have better cardio. I hate to tell you every single one of them we're going to take it. Of course. You know? So, when. it comes to this gambling and shit like that especially in the fc of course man especially at the

lower level so you think it's been going on for a while yeah you do oh yeah have you seen fights where you were like i've never seen it no no i've never seen it now what the internet does is they'll bring up these fights and like check this one out check this on but i there's some and now i don't think it's it's also not going on it's not going it's also not going on it's also not going at the higher level like you're not coming up to izzie you're not coming up to alex you're not come up, Tom Aspinall, John, the guys are making money, like, no, I lose it. It fucks me, dude. Super fucked.

But for these entry level guys. But if you lose it at an entry level, you may never be in the UFC again, though. So it's a big risk, isn't it? Yes, but they're probably not making the first place. This guy is not, you're also confined people that aren't that smart. They're just not that smart. Or there's pressure. Like, who knows when you're playing with gangsters, like, you owe them.

money yeah hey motherfucker you have a fight coming up right you also 100 grand we'll call it even if you lose by submission in the first round okay live to fight another day yeah that's right let's take a little break here if you're sick of these ads like we are subscribe to the patreon you get extended episodes it's patreon.com slash t fat k bonus content extended episodes five dollars a month super easy go get you some right now patreon dot com slash t fat k talk to me though for a second about active wear bro that's funny you mention that because today's episode is brought to you by fabletics dude when you live in active wear you can never have enough but the good stuff usually

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So he could have fought off the choke, I think. Did you see the fight? Yeah. What did you think? Of course. But of course. Yeah. And he got cut, I think.

Yeah, he did. Yeah, cut today, yeah. Yeah. And there's obviously an investigation here, a big one coming. Yeah, Dana White came out and said the FBI is my investment. Now, they said, and that's the thing, everyone wants to hit on, like, Draft Kings and Van Duel and all the other shit, but that's who flags all this stuff. If they weren't around, the U.S.

wouldn't be privy to it. They said, hey, we're going to give everybody their money back. Yeah. Let me see what Dana says. We're with a company called IC360, and they are the best bet monitoring company in the business. They reached out to us, and they told us. told us that there was some unusual action going on with that fight. Do we know anything?

We didn't. So what we did was we called the fighter and his lawyer and said, what's going on? There's some weird action going on in your bet. We're betting action going on in your fight. Are you injured? Do you owe anybody money? Has anybody approached you to, you know, and the kid said, no, absolutely not. I'm going to kill this guy.

And so we said, okay, the fight plays out. and first round finish by Rear Naked Choke. Literally, the first thing we did was called the FBI. So we called the FBI. I've met with the FBI twice today. People out there talking, oh, there's hundreds of fights under the... It's total bullfut. So this company, IC 360, which is the best bet monitoring company in the business,

we've been with them for years, and we get a report after every single fight that we do. So for anybody out there that's clickbait saying, oh, there's hundreds of... It's all bullshit. So when this did happen, you know, a couple of years ago, whenever it was, that investigation is still ongoing and now will be a part of this investigation too. Directly talking to Cash Patel, I'm sure you do have a relationship. Yeah, I talked to him this morning, but then we just had an office full of FBI agents in here. So if you try to do this, I've been very vocal and very open about this, we will be your worst enemy.

we will immediately go after you guns ablazing with the FBI and whoever else we need to get and we will we will do everything we can to make sure you go to prison you know you're seeing things out on the internet where like fighters are coming out and going oh I was approached I was approached really why didn't you tell us that really or more importantly why didn't you tell law enforcement that you're approached now now you're saying that you're approached it's like If somebody comes up and says, hey, I want you to rob a bank. I'm going to rob banks. Want to rob a bank with me?

And you don't do it. But you're not going to tell law enforcement, they're going to be approached now by the FBI. Yeah, my thing is, so they've had this system in place for a while now. There's no way this is the first one. So when he goes, you know, they're saying there's hundreds of fights that are being flagged, he's like, bullshit. Well, how many is it, though? like he just left that a little vague i think i think for the for the fighters come out that that then there's been like three lower level ones that says you know um i came out you know and

you know they're saying i was offered 70k to throw this fight and do this fight um i don't think they would lie because it's also not like these big names it's just like these lower level guys been like yeah someone offered me money which i think and now it might not be a gangster it might be someone who's a gambling degenerate who's like hey you know has a friend of a friend who knows him went to the gym was like hey i'm put a lot of money if you throw the fight i'll give you 70k and they're like get the fuck out of here you're not going to go to the cops and rat on the person right you're like i totally agree yeah so dan's like why won't you go to the cops like because it wasn't a big fucking deal i said no and move the fuck on yeah you yeah that's right

and plus if you tell the cops then they're going to i didn't say that to him you know what are going to do um i i um i don't think that this is a systemic systemic of the ufc i think it's just losing it carries too much of a penalty you can get cut at any time so i doubt i i think no i don't think it's like some huge like hundreds of fights thing is there any way this guy's uh innocent absolutely not no no his coach let him go too um really these lower level guys are going to do it because they know they know they know they know where they're at they're not they're not they're going to be there too long so they're going to try to capitalize on it and you know if you go back and catch them with it i think it's just part of sports man he even said in an

interview prior it's kind of silly but you said if you know anyone bets on him like he should get a percentage of of that winning as well so he's familiar with like the sports game yeah he used to he was connected to james krause thing training back in the day the james kraus whole thing yeah it's all james ross is like banned from the ufc for him yeah that guy. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Can't believe people compromise their morale's like that. I know the mushroom. Check your spelling, dude, when you're going to... This guy put

nice, Vanessa. Morales, nice. But also, so with Vanessa and these three ones. So it's Vince Morales, Vanessa, and Lando Venada. They all claimed that they got approached. Two of them said straight up, oh, it was a joke afterwards. After this, all the stuff came out, it was a joke. It's a joke. Because you fucked up, because now the FBI goes, really?

Why would you do that? It might be a family friend. or a friend of a friend and the FBI's going, really? Yeah. Well, now we're going to have to look into it. Oh, yeah. And again, these gamblers are not like, they're not coming to the big boys.

The big boys, you know, GSP, like back in the day, Chuck, you're not going to the big boys. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. You're going to these lower level guys. So the problem's on the lower level, not on the big boys. Yeah, my answer to all this is, of course.

I mean, so, with the Chauncey billips and stuff the the NBA that one that one is that propets though mostly or is that that that that's prop bets but the but Chauncey's thing is gambling so the that thing the UFC fires make sense there someone like Pantoja was driving for Uber before he's a champion is currently in the UFC so it's like those guys don't make money so that it makes sense why they do it they're literally doing it to feed their family and pay their mortgage and our rent or car payment so that makes at the lower level that makes sense and the NBA they and it's guaranteed money they make so much fucking money it's so stupid it's so fucking dumb now chants seem to be pulled from the hall of fame

it's so stupid but their thing is their actual gambling addicts they're degenerates that's why they're doing it wow yeah that's why they're so that there's a different one of the things that in hollywood like if you ever pitch a show that wants to use pro athletes they'll almost always be like what sport and if it's like football baseball basketball they will almost you'll you won't get it off the ground typically because they go players make too much money a lot of times the ones you want and they're not going to show up they just don't need to do this it's pretty wild especially if they're in the middle of their careers yeah tronty i think he's a he's a he's a degenerate gambler yes now now is he being accused of gambling on the games he was involved in or is he being no illegal

poker games that were rigged. Oh. These games were sophisticated cheating technology. Shuffling machines altered to read card. Camera enable poker chip. X-ray tablets to read the card

face down. Special contact lenses, glasses to read premark cards. Wow. The scheme involved inviting wealthy victim players to play alongside celebrity athletes called face cards to lend the game

prestige. Bill's the alleged to have such a beat. Here's my thing. When it comes to Chanty and this stuff, who gives the fuck? It's not affecting the game or his team. That's what I'm saying. If it's not affecting the game.

I thought this was a big scandal with the NBA and players betting against themselves. Well, no, there is. So Chantz, so that's what they released this and the Rose. So Rozier is a player for the Miami Heat who's actually fixing games. That's a big. That's a fucking, that's a fucking, so he's fucked. my thing with Chauncey is

so in a separate but related investigation there are allegations of using non-public injured player information to make bets in the NBA The prosecutors suggest Billups is not formally charged in that part of the case Hold on it says prosecutors say Billups may have been given inside information about his team

the trailblazers before a game against the Chicago Bulls that was then used to place bets so he is betting against no games he's involved in no he's not the prosecutor suggests Billups may have been given inside information about his team, the trailblazers, before a game against the Chicago Bulls

that was then used to place bets. Yes, he is. No, that doesn't mean he's betting against his team. That means he was giving information playing the Chicago Bulls that there's injuries, and he was releasing that information to the betters. Oh, getting paid for it, probably. Right? I mean, he's still betting. He's betting on or against a game he's involved in. That's crazy. He was arrested. wow if they're gonna arrest you there's some if there's that much smoke oh this has been going on for like three years

investigation oh yeah the the card thing which is what he's being bent over the fucking fire for who gives the fuck so a bunch of rich people lost their money because he was using glasses still illegal yeah I get it but okay it's just because he's like

he's a very famous you know or was a very famous NBA player and he's doing this so it makes it look like it's a legit thing you know so that's his use a face of it essentially see where the UFC and the NBA and NFL where if this keeps snowballing the big ones when it comes to the refs and the judges like Herzog's being investigated for the UFC be he is Jason Herzog yeah is Jason is Jason is do you remember that one fight and we were watching it this is very two Asian girls were fighting I sure

And she passed out and he woke her up and let her continue. I sure do. What the fuck is going on there? Well, also he stopped a fight early, remember? What was that fight did Jason? So it's not been confirmed that UFC referee Jason Hart as being personal investigation by the FBI. The FBI might seek out an audit for his officiate fights as part of a broader investigation. So basically he is being.

For unusual betting patterns in the UFC? Well. Do you remember when he stopped that fight very early? So it says MMA journalist Harry Mack, which people are giving a lot of shit. I don't get why you'd be mad at this guy's doing this, has alleged on social media that over 100 fights have been flagged by the FBI due to unusual betting, which doesn't mean they're rigged. It just means...

I'm not going to throw Jason Herzog under the bus. I don't know enough. So I don't want to get... I don't want to gang up on the guy if this turns out to be a nothing. Brian, we're not ganging up on anybody. No, I'm just saying. we're reading what the investigation i'm just reading it but i just kind of was like what let's see i i but i do think people are going to say hey wait a minute they're going to go back over those

fights right there was the problem is it's going to be tough to tell because uh refs do make mistakes they do make mistakes he's that a few he's one my favorite he's a good he's a good he's a good ref right he ref my first ufc fight ever you know i i like jason so the problem is people can go back through all his shit so your mistakes are me glorified even more now and ostracized where people am like well what the fuck i'm hearing right i made mistake yeah i mean it's a very hard job i wasn't betting on shab what was the what was the fight he did take a lot of heat for stopping early i'm just curious and again this this this is i don't think this is i'm not saying this is i love it like i don't want to get into it hey chin

bring up the here the fight i want to be fair i want to be fair to the guy because i like him and i and i you know i i i know him a little bit i just don't want to be a dick i don't want to be a dick i don't want to on a podcast here um 319 prelands is that it if you care about the yeah you don't want to do this be if you don't want to yeah you're doing right you're right you're just adding to you don't want to do this and you're like chin look up his huge mistakes i just remember

that the one thing yeah i know but you're adding to it yeah like you're making worse for yeah that's right like let's wait until they do the investigation because the problem is He might not have anything to do with it. And then we're like, let's bring up when he fucked up and see if there's... Yeah, I don't want to do that. I do not want to do that. I'm not... I hate that shit.

Now, in the NBA, there's been guys busted... There's been refs busted before. For sure. Sure. Yeah. But the one you're referring to is Hernandez versus Hooper. In case people want to look it up. The big one was that UFC, was it 300?

Yeah, the co-made event or the, the, was it Waylay and the other one? And Jan Shenan. Yeah. They may be, so they're looking at, yeah, I don't know what they're looking at. We'll see. Yeah. Because Jan was very much out, and it seemed like he sort of woke her up. Yeah.

They just continued on to the next round. It was a little bizarre. Is that, I can't remember. Is that what we talked about that? What do you mean? Like back then? Yeah. Maybe.

Of course. It was a co-main event on the UFC 300. He woke her up. It's like, what the fuck? So, FBI is going to be like, we need to see your bank account bring that up let me see that do you do it again i want to watch the fight i don't want to watch what i don't want to watch what i don't want to fight not the fight i just want to watch that relax let me see let me see let me see if what you say is actually the case you do it three from

three months ago how i let's see let's just go to this reddit thing real quick and see if it so for the audio listeners it says yon sanong being woken up by jasonov and there's a meme of some This guy, you know, the beam where he's all. That's how everybody wakes up. That's so fucking funny. It's fucking hilarious. Okay. Anyway.

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almost out no no 100% no no because she came to no no she did after he woke her up no no no no watch it again it that's it that's not on herzog that was a good that was actually good he let that go perfectly in my opinion because guess what she she she she fought all the way through i if i remember so he had to help her up but it's a little bit like getting wobbled almost out let's just take one look she's out almost out Bob no watch watch watch because no this one you know she's out right

when the hands stop fighting so right here so she's fighting fighting fighting right nothing right here she's out see how the right hands not moving see how he pulled her hand he sees the end look her hands moving her hands moving

no it's not no it's not both her hands are stuck yeah she's out Brian she's out falling asleep there he pulls her up dude You know what, though? You know what? Look, she don't know where she's at. I'm with Herzog on that.

That's why it's controversial. You know what I mean? Even looking back at it. I'm with him. It just made a fight. That was an exciting fight. And we got a lot of fight out of that. And she did end up losing the fight ultimately, yeah?

Yeah. Yeah. But she, it was a great fight. And he gave her that. I'm with Herzog on that. But with this betting scandal thing, they're saying like they, you know what I'm saying? The rounds. Sure.

I get how the FBA is. That's what I'm saying. Now you're leading to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad I watched that so I can be like man you know you can see how you let it go now just by

the rules of the fight game that that would yeah that would be a loss it's safe to say you can't necessarily 100% tell when somebody's out you know you can't right hey man anyone that trained for a while she was out that's an exciting her he was just dancing on that edge he trains but now they're they're gonna look at that right and there's a and he has a few others now so does herb dean so to all these guys sure masaki it's like you're a fucking director i mean you're a ref it's gonna happen do better right fucking do better but there's gonna be mistakes it's hard it's hard it's hard overall they do a great job but good good refs in ufc i'd say yeah stevie amazaki wasn't so great he wanted people to die yeah he was not he's like but did you

die yeah he was not good yeah it's interesting but the people are like oh this the end of the ufc not even close no nothing there's literally nothing to bring the ufc down but the ufc with their PR team and the ufc and dana have nothing to do with this this this they'll now some they have a big fucking car coming up

but people are you coming up jdm versus mokachev okay that'll make us forget about all this shit and people complain like we just can't scoop this under the rug. Yeah, you can. Because all the fighters are involved with this, you know, suppose, you know, cheating. There, none of them or anything in the UFC. There's no big name that you're like, what?

They're all lower level guys. This is, hate to tell you, nothing. It's nothing. It's all about nothing. And the UFC's going to put a kibosh on it. They're going to monitor more. And then people are mad at Dana like, oh, so all you did is ask the guy if he's throwing the fight and he says no, and you like continue?

He's like, that's exactly what? Can you be a ref? Can you be a ref in the UFC and gamble on other stuff in Vegas and stuff? I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Dana owns the fucking UFC. Yeah.

He's a generic gambler. Yeah. I saw this pop up too from submission radio. Five bets that were placed to the hard rock retail that basically push things over the edge. The final handle on the Bulgarian fight was $16 million. Think about time. This is funny. This is so obvious how it's fixed.

I really can't contextualize how paupia. a 16 million handle on a fucking apex prelimits it's so obvious it was fixed Hope it was worth it buddy hope you made enough money he didn't he's fucked I'll never fight again Dumb but that's the risk you take you know yeah that's the risk it's not like this guy was gonna go anywhere You know it's like he that's a decision you made and that's what it is 16 million of fucking apex prelimbtings is like yo yeah this one's too easy and they just yeah fucking ridiculous he's just not going to win any anybody that in the people rooting for the UFC to crumble for this god boy you're barking

up the wrong trick this is at 135 or 125 doesn't matter yeah i don't remember what is who gives a fuck he's gone you know all of it's over but people that think this is going to be the end of the UFC this ain't gonna be shit this'll be a footnote if you get to oh my god UFC's going under after the you know the scandal what you know what's worse shit they've been through you also don't want it you think you want the UFC to crumble you think you do those haters out there you'd have nothing to talk about there would be no MMA in general if it wasn't for the UFC you don't watch all your bullshit on PFL I fuck out of here let me just tell brian the story because i told you on the shop show that

if it would have failed it would fail a long time ago remember that korean i don't know if you remember this korean fighter te hong bang he he was approached by the korean mafia to bet for him to lose so then they gave him like 90-something thousand dollars an hour before the fight or two hours before the fight uh there's like this massive amount of money coming in it coming in on him losing other guy winning and then the UFC started walking into the locker rooms of both fighters they're like something's happening here just letting you know if this you know if you're bullshit and you're going to go to federal prison he ended up fighting and he was supposed to lose right but then he was like fuck i he got scared he was in there was like fuck this i'm winning

and then by the way he bet half of his the money they gave him on himself too right to lose yeah and then he actually won the fight and then got it in there was like i can't do this won the fight this is a crazy thing that's in the UFC the UFC the UFC obviously kept him out. How do we know all this? Because he came out. Yeah, he actually went to the police himself. He was so afraid of the Korean mafia coming after him afterwards. So he went to 10 months in prison after that. And then guess what? He was still able to fight again in the UFC one more time. Really? Yeah. But people are like, oh, UFC needs to do more if there's suspicious activity. If you're Dana and the Draft King's like, yo, these things get a little weird

here. There's a lot of money coming in on this kid. He's an underdog. Like this is a little strange. He might want to look into it. If you're Dana, all you can do is going to the locker and go, yo, dude, there's some suspicious activity. It's ain't worth it. And they go, yeah, I know. Or I have nothing to do with it, man. And if you're Dana, you just got to take their word for it. You know, I can cancel the fight because let's say the kid has nothing do with it and you rob them of opportunity to fight.

That ain't, that's not, you don't want that. Yeah. So I'm with Dana. It's like, I fucking ask them. They said, no, we let them do their job. And then we'll let the FBI deal with it. There's only so much you can do. this going on in all sports man at some level

so much money involved a lot degenerate gamblers out there man oh it's the actual american pastime it's not baseball not football it's gambling i never got into it gambling is the actual american pastime it is me and my brother get really into j still bets and so does his wife and they love it but i my thing like especially the time i have money i put like a on the Broncos that they'd lose and it would ruin my fucking week.

I'm like, this ain't worth it. Gambling is, online gambling is crazy. It's available to everybody. Yeah. Porn, gaming, online gambling, scrolling. All those things are essentially silent killers and it really

affects men. See, I don't think I don't think it's fair to say gambling is talks, in general, most people, like my brother or other people, like I know a bunch of dads that gamble the Tigers coaches gamble on professional sports. They're normal people. They like to do it and they can still pay their rent and mortgage.

It's like alcohol. Some people can drink. Yeah. So when people are like, oh, gambling, so even porn, oh, are you addicted to it? That's on you, motherfucker. No, it's the issue is young men. So the statistics with young men are, it's so addictive. With porn?

Isolate porn and gambling and gaming. So those are the three and then scrolling, but. But there's an aid, well, scrollings. Those are isolating a lot of young men. I know grown men with issues. Yeah. those are those are those are isolating young men so that's the problem yeah a lot of problems with society and culture too and the parenting but again it's like like it's like anything

what's that what's the age limit for gambling if to create a draft king's account you have to be how old 18 I think but again it's like it's like okay that's on you no I mean I'm saying you know I'm saying it's like so you start to realize that your phone it can can be if you're a certain kind of person as toxic as fucking you know cocaine so get away from it that's it most states required to be 21 over 20 there's a reason for that 100% and a few so we should just ban that because there's a few

fucking idiots who can't handle it well there's more than a few the question is what do you do about that's the minority it's still the minority even though it's an issue it's the minority the majority of gamblers don't have an issue the majority don't the minority are the ones that are fucking

putting their kids college tuition on and shit Yeah, I haven't, I haven't looked at, I haven't looked at the stats. I don't know. I know people who have, you know, crypto's gambling. A lot of us, it's just, the gambling takes on a lot of forms, so. But even the stock market, that's still gambling, yeah. So that's it. A lot of people that do, the majority of people that do stocks aren't degenerates, don't have an issue.

And they're very successful and they're doing fine. Yeah. They're not very successful yet. I don't know. I think gambling's a problem. gambling is not a small problem it's a big problem the friends that i know that are in trading addiction addiction in general to you know whether it's gambling pornography um alcohol drugs alcohol drugs but gambling pornography that's to talk about our phones and gaming is an actual big problem for young

men it's a big problem and it's not getting better it's actually getting worse the so that trumps all that is the phone phone's number one that's right well your phone that's exactly right phones number one you're addicted to your phone it's not a gambling access to you have the access because of your phone and the social media social media and your phone's way worse than gambling drugs or any of that it's all part of the same toxic mix you know 100% but yeah and so do we ban all phones I don't know no no the answers no no no you got to be disciplined figured out obesity eating problems like well that's the number one problem yeah so should we ban fast food

because here's my you want to eat every meal but here's my question let's go back even further. So this is where you get into it. Like, I'm not banning anybody's phone. I'm not going to actually ban pornography or gambling or gaming. I'm not doing that. I'm not going to ban scrolling. You can actually, you've got to kind of go back to the family. And when a family's broken, when a family isn't, when a dad isn't in the house or whatever like that, it has real consequences on a bunch of levels. And so that's also tough. Now, Now, hey, guess what? There are also families that have to work two jobs and are never around their kids.

There are a lot of issues. Wait, what was the question that would be? I'm saying, I'm saying that you can blame the phone, but sometimes you've got to just, you got to bring it back to the family and how you raise your kids with a phone and what the rules are. You know, that's the other problem. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't think it comes down to.

Well, no, I think it comes down. The only thing it can come down to at the end of the day. once you hit 18 is personal responsibility it just does you just have to go hey listen dude just so you know that phone for the most part is not good for you it ain't gonna work out and the younger generation's figuring out way better than we did probably the most disciplined people i know i see on their phone all the time yeah all the time yeah all the time so it's like that's an issue but the younger generation like yeah i grew up with my dad hunched over instead of watching me catch a touchdown he was on his fucking really there's a majority of kids are

tell you that my dad's on his phone oh right right yeah so they're gonna be like it's like cigarettes i'm like fuck that dude i don't be that guy just experienced life through my phone you know so hopefully they reject a lot of it because it's all new for us it's exciting whatever you know i think the kids they're smart they'll figure it out on how unhealthy it is you hope but i don't the cat's out of the bag i don't know what you do i don't either and now the ai's come in so there's even more reason to be on your phone, you know, social media. So weird. People can make a living, streaming 24 hours a day.

People make it living, creating hate videos on YouTube. Oh, yeah. So what do you do? You just let it go. It is part of the whole, there's a lot of great stuff on YouTube. There's a lot of great stuff on your phone. There's also a lot of shit. yeah it's not good

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And that's why I'm getting kicked out. And I want to make sure the girls know. She's in shape. The fuck! Good for her. locker room no one's saying shit and i'm fucking done with it good for you here's what's good positon here's what's crazy that the that this is even a conversation i agree that we're going man look at this lady up let's just when you hear it out loud

she's upset that the right the regulations in the laws in california allow men with dicks into women's locker room and because they want they feel like a woman that the women have to just go along with i think it's dangerous how how when when you say it out loud you're like hey this is why she's upset the democrats if 10 years ago if i would have said hey everyone cool would lend dudes with big dicks or any dicks in general into women's locker rooms because they they say they feel like women i would get this to me this to me is like the reason that i don't fuck with democrats like i have i think Democrats have a lot to say about other things. Maybe the economy and stuff, I'll meet you halfway.

Maybe I'm, maybe I'm, you know, that's no problem. But if the Democrats get behind this shit, which they do, and you have them saying nothing on this and supporting it, I can't fuck with you, man. I can't get with you. California's a shit. It's like, this is, how is this your stance? How is this your stance? Swept all states last night?

They did. They did. The moderate Democrats did, except for Mamdami, who is far from a model. communist yeah so that's fine that's fine that's the american story when virginia's always gone democrat when there's a republican president people are not happy a lot of like black and latino voters went democrat this time because they're not feeling confident with the economy yeah it's a lot of that and you realize they all fucking suck they're all evil so you're like who who's going to lower my rent who's going to lower the price of

food you let's do it boomers boomers have a chance with the greatest economy in the world to do something about it and they didn't and the fact of the matter is you have a lot of young people that cannot afford a fucking house they can't afford their life at all and i don't if republicans don't figure out a way to talk to them there's going to be a lot more of this that's america yeah republicans fucked up with the ice stuff the immigration yeah there's a lot of that went on but also the tariffs that kind of fucking really and inflation fucked a lot of people man like people care about the price of milk and gas and shit and man yeah man it means a lot yeah i do me too yeah what do you too yeah fuck yeah let me continue

good for you girl deep naked in front of a man without my permission but i'm the one who get picked out of jinn you all i'm terminated for not wanting men in the locker room sorry did you tell me or not that women like you see dick exactly exactly where is that the guy in the locker room Is that the guy in the locker room? Yes. Now he knows how to be a man. Stay out of the woman's locker room.

We don't want it. I'm a woman, and I have every right to want a man in the rest of him when I'm naked. Holy shit, he just walked in there. Walking in there like it's okay. It's not okay. I'm not poor that's all shit so she got her

whatever her gym membership and you get this fucking weird out yeah you get this fucking weird what's crazy is I would I would assume everyone's staying around not saying anything I'll agree with her

but they're scared they're scared to come out I was gonna bring that up to no one was paying attention to her she was just doing this no they know what's going on they're paying attention but they're scared

because they don't get outcast yeah but fuck that everybody should speak out everybody should speak out she's great she would beat the shit yes she would and uh hopefully i have oh wait we'll get to that i hope she's not apologizing oh this you got to check out this video this is amazing no she's not apologizing they're getting both sides this TMZ I was naked I was trying up and oiling up I turned around and there's a man in the locker room and so of course I'm shocked I'm like I thought maybe I missed the sign and that there were workers working

So I just said, sir, I didn't even get to say a sentence. I just was in shock and figuring out that there's a man behind me while I'm naked. And I say, sir. And he goes, you can't tell me nothing. B word, I'm a woman. And I'm like, what? Now, listen, guys, I don't have anything against anyone. So I was just in shock.

I didn't even, I've never been presented with this in my whole entire life. No shit. So I'm just in shock. And I go, start screaming and asking for him. people come into the locker rooms and they kind of escort him out but not out of the gym just out of the locker room so I can get dressed and then I made a report and nothing was followed up on I'm just wondering if you see her perspective she's saying that she's looking at you say in a towel and you still have male genitalia and you know you may be transitioning but could you understand

her being uncomfortable well I certainly do not understand it but I do get the notion of the fear mongering that she's perpetuating this is a fucking psychopath the truth in the moment

is far from what she is purporting it to be literally every time that she's done that I've had women in the locker room comforting me because of how aggressive she was towards me fuck out of here and guess what she's a lesbian too

I don't know how much that makes a difference I don't give a fuck what she's she's a woman no no I'm saying you shouldn't have the black ladies the black ladies so she should even The fact that we're having this discussion to your point is ridiculous

It's so ridiculous California's lost their fucking mind and as long as Democrats support this then they're gonna lose voters like me I'm just I can't I have problems with the Republicans but I have a bigger problem with the Democrats and it's all based on this fucking issue

because they want to transition kids too and I think it's evil. Thank God we don't have to deal with that. Well, it's got to be fought because there's a lot. There's still this insanity with these fucking people. And you have Gavin Newsom and people like that is my other problem with Gavin Newsom. You know, like don't tell me you're a moderate. You're not a moderate when you support this.

You're just not. And I'm not against trans people. Most people are. I'm not against trans people. No, this will be dealt with most people are. She just said that then just have a transgender restroom and we're all good. You know, that's, that's, that's, that's, at least that's or whatever but that's that's an expense too i don't really think the world should

bend to your what i consider to be mental illness no the world's bending to the point oh one percent no if you have a dick you got to get change the men's bed have a have a have a unisex bathroom i guess sure if you want to do that okay but then it should be a single bathroom because i don't think anybody should be that that's your thing but you're not allowed to just like come into a woman's like my my wife or my daughter's in there and i got to do with a dick fuck you fuck you what's this chin this is just uh now that's a woman is this sydney that's a variety's 2025 power of women event and then just the next video see this is awesome so she has she's wearing a very she's wearing a very sheen c3 power of women yeah

what is the question you're going to ask her about barborella i'm going to sit down if you see us in a corner the entire time just know i'm asking absolutely everything. And Jane Fonda's going to be here tonight. What is the question you're going to ask about? It's just a jiggling effect and the fact that she's wearing that. Yeah. She's got rests that she is fantastic. Yeah, that she's, she's, uh, she's just got a great body. She's crushing it, man. She's fantastic. Yeah, I root for her. All right. You guys are all right, man? Yeah. These things have been popping out a lot in my feed. It's just 90 degrees. You know how like the last video I showed you

than people sing like I love these okay let me see it I don't know where they're coming from but this is just okay here's another one why do you get a spin like that are you going to spin like that

are they fucking with sound here it's everything yeah i fucking with the sound because i don't know no they're they're just doing a cover of the phone it's just someone recording from the phone so that can be great at a concert too but then here's them doing back street boys i'm they running high when you're screaming my baby all right i'd go watch this shit i would they should stop dancing yeah okay i've seen enough a home boy's jacked in the front yeah i mean they're only most of them in good shape but i mean You see like backstreet boys make a return, the new kids on the block. Everyone, they put effort and time into the sinking of the dance and all the, I think that's

where it's kind of cringy is they're like all mid-50s. But they're phoning it in, it seems like. They're just kind of like, you can't be that age and not have a sense of humor about what the fuck you're doing. When you're having to do these dance moves that you did when you were in your 20s, it's like, here we go. And they got to rehearse that and shit. No one goes, guys, what the fuck are we doing?

Yeah, when you're in your 20s and then Nick Lachey goes, we're getting 30 million. fellas yeah i'm can't you see yeah i'll learn i'll fucking imagine me up there my gray hair oh my god they look like you bud okay there's not much to this other than it's a russian

reality show and they brought this russian you know beginning amateur fighter i hope he's not gonna abuse this kid so instantly becomes a villain it's a woman it's a woman's uh it's like almost like the what's that one show with girls are all trashy Rock or Love? No, it's a reality TV show

Like girls are scared straight Ah, never mind Just watch, you'll see what I'm saying I'm saying It's too bad she was in that locker room at gold's jim. This show's awesome. And she's big. And she's big.

Clearly has some bad anger issues. She's punching people on the face, left and right. Clearly trained too. Anyway, it's a lot of that. And Russian reality shows are very much different than ours. different than ours she's beating the shit out of it yeah they go crazy in america she would be banned and kicked out of the show well what the what the girls need to do is organize and all attack and gang up yeah i don't know if that's gonna help that bitch was tough well you get

five girls on her she'll get it uh you mentioned gavin newson have you seen this one with uh kvc bar still talking about him this is about rogan yeah or nay sure be tough. California governor Gavin Newsom went on CNN and called out Joe Rogan saying that Joe is a coward who's afraid to have Gavin on his podcast. For years and years he's been attacking me and it's one way and he won't have me on. He's consistently not up me on. By the way, I'm moving on. I have no interest. You're done with him? Joe Rogan's the Facebook of podcast. I mean Joe Rogan's a pretty big audience still. You know, if he has a big audience but he doesn't have big enough confidence, I didn't go there to have me on. Well, you've called him a chicken. But he's been a

attacking for, here's the thing. These guys, they all have something common. It's one way they attack, they belittle, they demean, they take things out of contact. And the unwillingness for a guy like that to even have the common courtesy, to attack someone and not have the DC, say, you know what, why don't you have a chance to come on? Oh yeah, dude, totally sounds like a guy who's moved on and doesn't care and definitely isn't desperate to get on that podcast anymore, totally. Now, this is a robbery that's been going on for quite some time. Joe Rogan famously led an exodus out of Los Angeles bringing his content, his podcast, his comedy, and a lot of the comedy industry with him to Austin. For years now, Joe Rogan has been saying that Gavin Newsom ruined Los Angeles,

ruined California, and he cites the homelessness and the unemployment and ruining Hollywood. And so in response, Gavin Newsom jumps on Twitter and calls him a chicken and lists out all the stats on why he is doing a good job. Now, for me, this is where things get interesting, because he start talking about what should Joe Rogan do? Because on the one hand, it's Joe Rogan's podcast. He can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. He doesn't have to do anything with his platform. Sometimes he talks to MMA fighters. Sometimes he talks to alien scientists. Sometimes he fucks around with comedians. And sometimes he

sits down with the president of the United States or other major political pundits. But does he have to do that? No. It's not like it's some requirement that he has to have on all the major politicians or anyone who has aspirations to become president. It's not his duty to do that. Joe Rogan built his podcast and hired by doing it. So I can

speak on this. Because on my phone I probably have, you know, I haven't told anybody this. I keep this quiet. But I was texting with Gavin Newsom about Joe because when Joe called Gavin Newsom a con man Gavin Newsom texted me and there were there was a long exchange about how he's not a con man that he's a fan of Joe's and that he it's a personal thing and he wants to be on he'd like to you know at least at least Joe to know that he's not a con man it's interesting and I said to

Joe I go you're super famous you I'm literally I'm literally texting with the governor of California. And Joe said, I don't want to see that. And I think the reason Joe doesn't want to see that, and Joe's not interested in talking to Gavin Newsom is because sometimes when you are a podcaster and you have someone like Gavin Newsom on, Gavin's a very charming guy. Gavin's not a dumb guy. And Gavin can make a strong case for California. He can also make a strong case for why he is not running the state. He's also dealing with city councils and a lot of other shit that's very hard. Arnold Schwarzenegger basically said, and I talked to him about this, he said, the one thing

is a governor is you can't get a lot done. You can't. Now, having said that, then why would we vote? Joe is very savvy and smart to know that he doesn't know enough sometimes to not be gamed. One of the reasons he probably doesn't want to have certain leaders of countries on is because those leaders are very good for making a case for why. they're good guys because politicians are very good at that why criticism is wrong okay and joe's smart enough to know that you there's a lot of smoke and you got to be very careful with people like

that he also doesn't like him he also doesn't like him i was there when he showed him that's a great point hold on i was there when he showed him the text where all at dinner and rogan goes fuck off yep he goes i don't see that he doesn't like him he doesn't like him he just he's a scumbag and all his his the things that he posted, all that was there in California before you became governor, dumbass. So he's taking credit for it. That stuff was there before he was governor. He did not create that. Yeah, I think, I think, I think he's a scumbag.

Joe can smell a scumbag and mile away. He's a born politician. He is a terrible human being. He's ruined California. And Joe wants no part of it. They'll go, you're scared to have them on. Joe would run circles around him. I don't think he's scared to talk to him.

No. He just wanted to give him a platform because he's a piece of shit. He doesn't like him. I think at the end of the day, he doesn't like him. Nobody fucks with him. And when Joe doesn't like you, it doesn't matter. He has a good reason not to like it. It doesn't matter what you do.

That's right. We can play the thing. Oh, they don't have a lot of power. Okay, he's done a lot of bad shit. Yeah. The way he's done with the Palisade fires and shit. The way he shut down the entire system, then his kids still went to school. He's a fucking terrible human being.

I think more of it is just, yeah, I think it's more. And it's an escape goat to go. They don't have much control. Well, keep that same thing. energy when transgender can go into the bathroom. Yeah, you know what I think it is? A lot of times Joe's got a really, really good, having known him 30 years, you know what he's really good at? Smelling bullshit. He's really good to smelling bullshit. When somebody is a bullshit artist or not telling the truth or there's something amiss, he's very good at getting far away from that person.

And I also, in the same reason why Kamala Harris didn't go on Rogan, it's not going to go how you think it's going to go. So he thinks he's going to come on there and it's this buddy, buddy, I'm just going to run circles around Joe and give him facts and he's getting eaten alive. Because Joe's going to go, cool, man. That was the first hour. You have two more hours. I'm going to find out who you are. And he has horrible shit.

Horrible track record. He's a complete piece of shit snake. That's why he's not on. Figure it out, but he has no self-awareness. No one fucks with him. Guys, I'm going to take a little break. Can we take a break, dude? Because you don't have this problem.

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and might and republicans on and that bombed and then he's using the same did it not do well no have you heard of it his podcast take a look at the numbers on that yeah he came out hot came out yeah really he's a complete piece of shit It says officially failed here. He's not doing it anymore. On this reformed California thing. Low viewership and negative impacts on his favorability. You're surprised, Brian?

Well, you're a fan of his. No, no, no, I just was interested. I could have told you from the jump that thing was going to fail. Because I had so many issues. He's all fake. Yeah. He's not a real human being. He's a fucking born politician.

Podcasting, you're getting straight from the fucking cow's tit. There's no filter. so politicians don't succeed in this genre because they're all fucking con artist when you gotta be it's like we quit having actors on because they're all fucking fake there's no one faker than a politician Gavin Gavin has tried to play he's been

he's the ultimate politician and tried to play both sides yeah and then you could see it as a rebranding couldn't you it's like mm-hmm he tried and he's just regurgitating he's in Trump's wording and shit

yeah you know we all have these instincts it's just like you're like well i don't buy it well he was like the left needs their joe rogan albeit it's like you but you can't you're too you're too fake dude yeah give us some more i saw some other stuff why'd you skip over the other stuff i mean it's just more rogan stuff oh well the Elon musk is saying that there's going to be a demo of the the flying car the roadster Right. Yeah, because he's coming out with a, I'll fill being. So he's coming out with their roadster model. And, you know, Joe has that crazy Tesla. And so he's like, man, what's up with the road to even work on it? And he's like, I don't want to give away before. He's like,

but you'll never see anything like this. So he's like what? And he's like, you know how when were kids? He thought he'd be flying cars. And he started talking about how the roadster is going to fucking fly. He's like, I think people should be able to drive flying cars. You're like, Like, what the fuck? You don't mean, I'm not a big fan of Tesla, but what he's doing is fucking wild, dude. Flying cars. Yeah. So it sounds like the road says it's going to be a flying fucking car.

And the demo will be unforgettable. Yeah, and he goes, good or bad. He goes, because it could just fucking crash and then people will watch that or it's super successful and people will watch that. It's also a great, whether or not it's true, it's a great marketing clip. I think it's true. I think his crazy ass is working on it. and that's another thing too

that was a surprise but I thought it'd be like in two three years no literally later this year yeah in Joe goes well we're in November I know which is like

yeah he was like yeah hopefully by December end of the year maybe January like holy shit you have flying cars but it's like yeah

the guy fucking does rocket shit so for them it's probably not too tough it's wild dude okay well this here's the sweet little story

a doctor well what do you think of this for well this is a christmas stewart at some french high or something festival people were just commenting a lot on her looks but i think it's more of her makeup and style what do you guys what do you ask me her looks she's like people are saying that she's like people are saying that she looks like that she looks like she's on drugs, basically. I think she's an artist?

She's so fucking rich from Twilight. She's probably like, fuck it. She's just, um... I'm gonna become a real-life vampire. She's just, like, a classic vain actress. It's all good. Yeah. Probably dabbling the drugs.

Cémmignon means it's very cute. Her hair is super thin. Let me hear her speak French. You can speak French. Okay, go back, go back. Let me see her friends. Let me see her French. I got a refresh, and there you thought.

Let me hear this. You are the French police. My vocablist is like this high, but I can't put these words together. So if I do it, you will say, oh, fix my menial. You're better than to me in English. You're better at French and she is, B. Yes. It's not.

It's not very. You're right. I do speak. Didn't she get married to a woman? It's not true. Yeah. Yeah, whatever. She's, uh.

What did you take classes for, Brian? Or you just read and learned it? What's that? French. No, I lived in Lebanon as a kid, so. Oh, I didn't even know that. That was like a English, French and Arabic. The Christian side spoke French and Arabic.

Okay, this is a 93-year-old doctor, general practitioner. Awesome. And he has a kid, I think he had him at like 91 or so. Oh, my God, that's so great. He's from Australia. And this is his wife, this is Asian girl. She's Chinese. Go back to him at 93.

Looking good, brother. Yeah, he is. Good, man. He does all that stuff. I'm sure he does. God, you know what's frustrating? He looks fucking fresh rating. He is better here than you at 93.

Motherfucker. And by the way, his skin is better than yours. Right? He does all the anti-aging stuff. Oh, he does? Yeah. And he does this a G-H or H-G-H. He would grow up on, yeah.

He started at 70, by the way. I need to get on what the hell he's gone. That's great. And how many kids does he have? I don't know about that. He's just busting nuts. Dude. But he met this Chinese girl when she was 26.

And he was 80-something. Homeboy is killing it. Yeah. And they're actually like, they seem like a very sweet family, not about like money and all. He's 93. He has about seven years left with that.

He's got about less than that, but he thinks he has to 105 because all all those treatments that he does. All right, cool. That's their kid all right there. It's so cute. 105, you got 13 years. Bummer though, daddy's got to go.

You know, it sucks. He's hoping to make it by his 21st birthday. That is 21st birthday. That isn't that. Congrats that ain't happening. Hopefully it does, though. I love it. Hey, he looks great.

Technology. I wonder how his energy is, though, for the kiddo. I mean, I would imagine, you know. Hey, I would imagine not good. He's 93, but, yeah. That energy's not going to be popping. He ain't playing catch in the backyard. He looks fucking great for 93.

Great. Yeah. He's a doctor? He's a doctor. Still practices, too. Of course. Ninety-three years old. My dermatologist was 92.

How was this skin? Huh? Did he have good skin? He was bent over. He was, he looked like, he looked like an old tree. Yeah. Just an old bent tree in the wind. Yeah, 93, that's the best 93 year old I've ever seen.

93 is crazy. He's more than a chain. Started doing HCH and all that shit. Count me the fuck in. Whatever he's doing, I want in. Every night before he goes to bed, HG. Great. It's fucking solid.

Okay. let's see what else i got here oh have you seen this one this is in toronto i'll let this video just play wait let me describe a little bit this woman crazy woman has this long knife right and she's walking around slashing tires so the police got called and this is what happens i'd be so pissed that bitch slashed my tire we're gonna go ahead and have to oh she's stabbing the cop car we're gonna have to shoot her right you see the cop get out yeah and she's brandishing a weapon we're gonna have to shoot her she looks quick too oh drop the knife the knife

tight move what cop was like let me run this this cop said let me run this bitch over oh oh no oh no oh no the cops on my bat my bat oh no they ran her over oh that's really bad hey good oh hey hey Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. But he also injured his partner, too, because the partner was on the ground with it. He rolled over his partner, too. So what happened? The cop just left the vehicle without putting in park, because I'm sure the adrenaline's gone. You know, when he went back in to stop it, he hit the accelerator.

You got to be trained for that. You fuck. I hear you. Hey, dude, you got to train for the shit. That's embarrassing. Yeah, but home girl needs to take accountability. You're pulling a knife out. You're stabbing cars.

You stab the cop car. You got ran over. Yeah. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You're lucky they didn't shoot you in the fucking face. You're lucky you got out with a broken leg. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Even here it says neither sustains serious injuries. She's a small woman who was obviously a little crazy. And you just, as all those men, hey, do better, you guys. They could have definitely done better with that one. 100%. That guy, don't panic. They tased her and she dropped that knife right away. That's a training issue.

That's a training issue. You've got to, you sink the level of your training. You've got to train for that shit. You know, your cortisol, your adrenaline. you got to practice that shit, man. Yeah. It's got to be second nature. Boom,

boom, boom. For sure. But no of this would have happened if she wasn't stabbing their tires. Well, it's always going to happen. That's what you give it. You spend time into Canada, boy, the amount of meth, the amount of, all these different crazy drugs that cause people to go crazy. That's anywhere, though. It's America, too, man.

This will be the last one. Whoa, what is this? This, another thing just popped up in my feed. This is apparently a Muay Thai instructor. Looks like the catcher for the Toronto Blue Jays, Kirk. Because I just said to you, if you're falling on me, like I said, if it's hard wire, if he used to laying all over and he's going to find a pocket to sneak up a little sneaky elbow and you're going to eat it because you're falling forward and you're only going to land on it.

Only take one little fucking little sneaky elbow. And like I said, if he's watching and he's just bearing your way, it's boom, you're going to seems like she knows what the fuck she's doing and then from here when you do that step and turn and that knee don't fall on him like I said stay up in control

so here one two you step and turn you knee up Frank then land here up right so you know so as far as the training what do you guys think like her uh

her advice should have some fucking experience I'll send you something I got Okay Thicky I got a good one But it seems like her fighters Are winning their fights

So She knows what's up But obviously I brought this up Because you know The comments were just Mean, yeah Yeah But who knows

She might fall on bad fucking times Put on a bunch of weight That means she can't fight It doesn't know how to coach Yeah You're gonna send me something, Brian? Yeah Redemption

No, I've got one more from Brian what does it be i sent it to you sorry never mind it's coming it's coming what's this hold on this is the one right yeah this this chick is i like i like the way she talks this is great okay it's a housewife here we go game is to get as many little hits as i possibly can okay all right instead of just going this is it and now i'm going to stand and admire my work doesn't happen that way. All right. So I go here and you may, oh, oh, man, that's like, bang. Fuck yeah. Yes, sir. Now let's go into this one.

Yes, sir. And now we're back in a little house. Do something else. Now I'm just sweet. Now go. Look, watch. That's crazy. Watch it. Okay. So I guess there are variations how you can go inside and outside of the position. Yes. Okay. So I might start inside and then go to here. I might start and then hit the arm and go outside. I can still what I'll go into the same direction or

once I go here I might take this Yes sir get down That you gave me a gift from the gods Give from the gods baby Wow Give from the fight God Dude you don't know what the fuck is going on

That guy's super injured too Why don't we see this shit? Uh huh This Uh huh Not today Oh maybe now what Knee. I get one knee in and I can go.

That's going to do what to your body? It bends my body forward. Yes, it strains my body forward. Then I might step here because I'm going according to what. No, you're not too. Oh, bro. Okay. Dude.

Honestly, your neck. Dude, are you kidding right now? Are you joking me right now? Are you joking me right now? Wow. How many more variations are? There's a lot of variations.

You know, everybody wants something in an order. Nobody wants something in order. And they want to go, this is how it works and this is how it does. But life isn't even that way. Life isn't. So, I try to make it so that we flow from one thing the other. And I think, for me, Cilot has done that. Seelot.

Added a lot of other things into that so that you can go from one thing. Dude, that's Silver Mermaid ain't fucking wrong. I look at them as pieces of the puzzle. Now, every time I do something different, I have a piece of a puzzle. Oh. So now that piece, it's going to fit any place in the repertoire of what's happening. That's badass. Fuck, yeah.

I like that. That's cool. And then we're here. Spock around and find out. And then dot, that, boom. From God. Go ahead and step in her locker room. See what's up.

Bring that big dick in that locker room. She's going to take you down. Yeah. Dude, that was a gift from the gods. What was that other thing I saw? All right. So this will be the last one then. Yeah, man.

Let's go. Like I said, things are just popping in my feet out of nowhere. But this, I thought you guys would find funny, even though it's not supposed to be funny. I'll just play the video. 24 uninterrupted hours to celebrate. Lord's grace in delivering me from the bondage of pornography. We celebrate every year. We know the date because of a chain of events that had happened that day.

And that was literally the day that God freed him was October 13th of 2000. She's very hot. so every single year we do something to celebrate whether it's a super fancy dinner or a date night or 24 hours away overnight dude well we get 24 uninterrupted hours to celebrate wait so he's been porn free since then 12 yes and i don't know she's like this huge religious person so this is 24 hours to celebrate with porn while you have sex no no no no Not at all. He probably, he probably, I don't know. Could she be my little personal porn star?

Is that how they're working? I think that's how it worked. Do you want to give up porn, but boy, my lips chap. Very pretty. She's, that's wifey right there. You don't need to be watching porn if you got that gal. Yeah, she's attractive. But show me a really hot gal, and I'll show you the guy who needs more.

Cute little family. That's a good family right there. That's a beautiful family. Yeah, bro. Yeah. No porn is worth getting in the way of that. That's an awesome family. He must had a real problem, though.

He's a good-looking couple. He must have been jacking it nonstop. Yeah, I would imagine some people develop that addiction. Yeah. I don't. I don't imagine it. I can't relate to that. No.

But some people do. She's a good, gorgeous. Yeah, you can't get enough of her, huh? Keep saying it. She's all right. No, you're wrong. She's cool? She's cool?

Oh, interesting. She's as hot as Sydney, sweetie. Wow. In fact, she's hotter than Sydney's. Oh, wow. Okay. Wow. She is.

Wow. Hotter. She's every bit is hot. Wow. I mean, I don't see a difference. Yeah. Everyone has their type. Don't talk about my girl.

What's her name? Huh? Her name is Brian's girl. All right. Okay. And I'll not have another company. There she is. I was hoping more out of that video, celebrating fucking basically 12 years.

Yeah. And it seems like she made him do, it was just like, interesting video when I don't think he wants to stop porn at all all all right is that it that's it dude wasn't a great way to end up but would you want some more I don't think no no give me out of here yeah you're going what's this t-juring oh fuck I want to show you this one this one this pissed me off so bad this dude is just walking his daughter back home and look at this shit so his father robbed a gunpoint in front of young daughter before trick-or-treating Look at this little girl in the background

Gunpoint robbed and then carjacked And now the community is saying They want more police on patrol in the area Smacked in the head too This child has really affected me Deeply inside I'm truly sorry for what I was really sorry Bridgeport community members sticking up

For one of their own Father Ting Chu and his young daughter Were getting ready to trick or treat Friday afternoon on the 2,600 Block of South Emerald Avenue Her bucket of candy in tow But just as they got out of their black Mazda CX-5, a man runs up on them, holding Chu at gunpoint.

During that situation, she was crying. She was literally crying. I didn't know what to do because I couldn't really help her. I was just, you know, frozen. I was a gun in my face. Eventually, the suspect hits Chew in the face with the weapon, and another man comes to steal his belongings. A third suspect running to the driver's side to steal the vehicle, that child witnessing it all.

wrap of my phone, my cart, and also my wallet. Basically, they took everything. Today, residents march through Bridgeport Street. Anyway, it's just fucked up. I can't believe they would do it in front of his little baby girl, too. That sucks, man.

Well, well, how do we... Hopefully catch them. Yeah. All right, I get going, dudes. Let's just do one more. I'm all set on. I'm all set on in current events. 1988.

Lauren Hill. She's so great. she's amazing but anyway she didn't do a great performance obviously she became one of the best singers out there and they boot her and then they kind of like were turning the ties later on back door that's crazy you know the Apollo

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