The Fighter & The Kid - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen REACT to UFC 296 Edwards vs Covington | TFATK Ep. 953

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

Bryan Callen and Brendan Schaub recap the UFC 296 Leon Edwards vs Colby Covington fight card, discuss what should be next for Tony Ferguson, Paddy Pimblett and more, discuss the biggest trash talkers in MMA, talk viral weightlifting sensation Tom Haviland, Mark Zuckerberg building a $100M Hawaii compound with massive underground bunker and much more!

Yes we did, cause we got it again. It's the fight only in the kid. This is really the fighter in the kid. Come on, baby. Mr. Buddy. Mr. I feel like we haven't seen each other a while. We talked a little bit. We did really, we got a catch up on.

We're coming down. 2023's coming down. 2023 is coming down. Had an amazing weekend in Spacan. One of the best spots. Off the hook. In Naples, which I should just get a house there this weekend. If you get afford it, Naples, that.

$80 million you can buy a house for. $80 million. When you walk to the beach, you see the house as you're like, this is. Oh, no, it's so stupid. Everyone's so old though. I mean, old and conservative. For me, it'd be tough.

For you, you know. Right? No, don't say that. Naples is a good market for me. No, no, no, come on. There are, there is some gray hair in my, I spoke to Hannah, I had a lot of gray hair in the crowd. Yeah. My fans are older.

They're growing up with you. They're growing up with you. I love it. And then, Naples is always gonna have older people. Like in the pandemic, there were old people with no masks. Naples has always been old though. Yeah, that's what it is. But I feel, yeah, 2023 is coming to an end.

You don't hear a lot of excitement for 2024. 2023 is tough. This, I mean, we gotta figure out our schedule as far as shop show goes. We got our last one today, because Christmas is next Monday. I know, I think we take a, we'll do a Wednesday and then we'll take that week off.

Yeah, because I'm gonna be in, I'm gonna be in Florida anywhere. I'm gonna go then to Charlotte. I got to do Charlotte. Okay too much right? Yeah Charlotte comedy so we'll just have one Yeah, the holidays. Yeah, we take the holidays off like like Civilized to be no Wednesday like next week or just no he's saying Wednesday next week Yeah, that's it. No Monday. We'll do Wednesday and then that's it till Oh, so January first week. So we'll take a week off so it'll be Wednesday Mm-hmm when this Wednesday is our last thing and then we won't do another one until what the following Wednesday I guess her or

Yeah, the following Wednesday makes no no that's when Christmas is next. No look the calendar There's a crisis on Monday. This is next Monday. So Wednesday would be the 27th. So we're good there. No, I won't be able to make that I Don't I could I could but I but that's but then I have to come back and then I have to go right back to Charlotte though And then this Wednesday, are we good? I can do it if we have to you know, don't worry about flying back then So we would be so this would be our last one till the third. Yeah.

So not this one, we're gonna do one on Wednesday, aren't we? This Wednesday? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, my bet. So it's this week, next week off. Yeah. And then Christmas week off.

Come back, fire it up. Come back with some stuff. Fire it up. Now let me ask you a couple questions. Can we talk about the fight? Have you probably already talked about it with the shop show? Can we get yeah, but we can get into it. Well, I just want to get your take on Ian Gary. I was very disappointed. So you got pneumonia. Pinnemonia. The Pinnemonia. He got pinnum on his kids have it. Yeah, but they reschedule him. He's fighting March 6th in Miami against

Jeff Neal. Okay, so that's good. I think this is a good thing for him. Let all the talk, we'll forget about being sick, all the negativity. No, I'm saying that that's a good question. We're gonna go outside and party in a sick, right? Maybe, who knows, like things happen, but just let it, let all the hate, like the MMA fan base is fickle,

they'll move on to somebody else. Yes, they will. So by the time March comes, some people still stay on it, but it'll be better. You can go some fights. That's all right. That's God give them a mulligan there.

100%. Jeff Neal is an easier opponent than Luke A or no. Different. Tough. Jeff's fucking tough. They're supposed to fight originally, and then Jeff got hurt. That's when he made the, that's when his wife made the, the mug shot shirt.

The Jeff's tough, man. They're both tough fights, and Jeff is ranked, so it's good for him. And he beat me sent a Luke K, so. Yeah. All right, well, here we go. Yeah, here we go, that'll be exciting. Well, let's say now in the shop,

you're like, that last week that you see 296, the whole thing was dark. I agree. I didn't like it. The Ian Gary stuff is whatever, that's funny. That is what it is. But then with Leon's dead dad, the stricling and duplicy's fighting in the crowd.

What was that about? The Trump stuff. So my thing is this with the, I would only say this about the, called the comments. It's important to understand the difference, right? Between trash talk, that's good, Larry Bird, Muhammad Ali. Great. And even if you want to fuck with some of these

girl or their dad, you can say it to them secretly on the court. Or whatever it is. To me, it's when you start using it. I agree with you. I don't think it makes the sport better. I don't think it makes you better. And it's not funny, it just makes you feel kinda like, oh, it's dark. Like, when I'm laughing, when Conor McGregor goes, who the fuck is that guy? Or I'd like to take this moment to apologize,

absolutely fucking no one needs it. This is all a side effect of the Conor effect. This is the Conor effect. The Kabeeb thing. Well, the Conor thing, he's done it multiple times. He goes a little too much, but it's Connor and he became the most paid athlete of all time.

So people are trying to follow that. That's all this is just a shit wave of, it's not Connor, you don't have the wit, the humor, the intelligence, the skill. So you're not Connor, but the UFC, the same way social media advocates hate, the UFC advocates that, they want that, but there's only, you can't replicate that.

So all this is, it's derivative. It's called derivative, it's a derivative. It's like, you're like a pro-truck version. Yeah, it's a product. It's a product of that where they go, well, I want it, Connor's money, I want his fame. And so they see his formula, but he can't't duplicate that so you just and then you have see Advocates it because they like it. It's like it's like what do police isn't strictly fighting

And then it goes, oh, I can't believe that I sat him that close and he has to play that character You know what he's doing. Oh, there's cameras on it And then they'll use that to hype up the fight like this is all planned All this is an agenda. Yes Trump being there Tucker Carlson be there Kobe gonna title shot all this is pre-conceal All this is an agenda all of this none of this happens by coincidences. Yes now They're not telling struggling to make sure you beat up to places behind you in the stand No, no, but what they're doing is you're creating perfect environment for that to happen and then going Oh my god these guys you can't be doing this. This isn't saying play it, play it.

Oh, you know what, dude? I mean, that's the way they sat them there. Come on, you're 100% right. And Danes in charge of the seating, he goes, I just made a mistake, I'm an idiot. And people, it's okay. Oh, now he tells, he says, move out of the way, let me see.

Yeah, he tells you we're pretty good. He just comes out of like this. Yeah. And by the way, he knows what he's doing. He's not hurting his hand. He's just using his forearm. They're just causing some problems there. But all this is planned.

As far as like the UFC, they have cameras on it. They even have bodyguards right there. That's good. Yeah, that's all planned. Now, but back to Colby, he talked trash. This what, I think he was gonna do whatever it took to get Leon to fight emotional. He knew this was the trigger, he could push,

the button he could push. I think he went through camp, and was like, holy shit man, I'm getting older. I don't, and his team's like, dude, you're not moving the same. Even your cardio's not as good. You look a little stiff dude. He's like, man, if Leon sits, we're gonna pick the part.

Well, we gotta get a reaction, I'm gonna get him to fight emotional. I was, yeah, it's a first match. That Leon sits, we're gonna pick the part. Well, we gotta get a reaction. I'm getting fight emotional. You guys are the first dad. That's very interesting, I never found that. So I don't know, so he's like, let's get Leon emotional. No one's ever talked shit about his dad, his dad, dad. Let's get him a fight emotional. People are gonna hate you, but this is the only way

you're gonna win. I think you think his camp actually said that too. I think he came up with the idea and the camp's like, it's not bad, because if the plan is to use it on the outside because you don't move like you used to, you're just gonna be an awful down in the office. So I think Kobe was like, fuck, I don't know. You surprised me.

People like me already. He just didn't look like the, he just first of all. All the time. Is it father time though? Or is it I stepped over the line? I know it inherently. No. I feel awful off about it.

God no. Kobe doubled down on it after the fight. Yeah. No, that's not Kobe. No, no. I know it now inherently and I feel Kobe double down on it after the fight yeah, no, that's not Kobe no, no he wasn't moving like usually it's two years off The may have this question yeah I'm it's off with at his age and then you're fighting for the title. It's an issue But isn't there also the idea that like Maybe those comments aren't actually Colby, they are a character he's playing and I have a philosophy on that which is as you get older and you keep playing that character it feels more and more like a lie it's pushed it's I can hear it maybe because I'm a performer and I've been doing this a long time

I can hear the the push in his voice a little bit it's a subtle thing you might be able to you know you're you kind of go go, you're kind of like saying this stuff, like about that, it doesn't seem authentic. It's like, you're pushing this character of the heel, but I'm starting to feel like that's not actually who you are. And I don't think it is him actually. I don't think, I don't know the guy. I used to not too, but then when you double down on it

and then you just lose the biggest fight of your life and the first thing you get on the mic and you're thinking Trump and talking about the border crisis. It's like, where's your priorities at, right? Also, what are you, you're a politician now? Like, what do you know about stuff? All this, all this orchestrate. All, yeah.

You think Trump just called day-up Thursday, and I was like, hey, I'm being vague inside. It's all about elections, it's all about. That fan base, they play walkout music when Trump walks into the arena. Listen, I'm not saying I'm not a Trump guy, but it's all, that fan base. They play walk out music when Trump walks into the arena. Listen, I'm not saying I'm not a Trump guy, but that's what I'm like. When they're four-star, I'm like, oh, dude.

You have Tucker Carlson, they have Kid Rock, they're playing walk out music, crowd's going nuts. Kobe didn't deserve a title shot. This is all orchestrated. This is WWE UFC meets all this is whole agenda. This is a whole thing. This is a political agenda for Trump. And then you get, you get Kobe, I got you. Nobody's closer to Donald Trump than

Dana White. They are two P's in a pot. He, Dana has all this access to all these young minds, and all this influence, it puts, makes Trump look cool, you know, you hate Kobe, he's still there. Right. And look what they do. The UFC is, they're the best at it with Farz Markin. Look at the crowd. When the, when the two fighters about to face off,

after Bruce Buffett, you see him like this. Yeah. One side, it's all media. The older heads, the guys who've been doing it for a Damon Martin, all the old heads, are all, they're typing on their computers. They go to the other side, it's all TikTokers. It's all comics, TikTokers. Influenced people who post the all tick tockers. It's all comics, tick tockers,

influencer people who post the fights. Oh, wow. It's just all market. It's just a shit storm. We keep them in the big spotlight. Smart. So nothing's an accident. Whether, whether these guys know it or not, there's a reason you're there. Oh, it makes it the hippest show on it. It makes it the hippest party in town. Jared Leto. Yeah. All these guys. Right in the Tucker Carlson front-side. Yeah. Yeah. Mario Lopez. It's the thing. Boxing doesn't do this anymore. No.

It's all the biggest tick tockers and they have, you know, they have the knelk boys that like all this, all, it's all an agenda. Mm. And there's nothing wrong with it. Business is a boomer. It's a boomer. I'll do the exact same thing. Yeah.

But figure it out, guys. This is all planned Where where does Colby go from here? Does he fight? He and Gary does he fight? What happens here? That's a good question. He called first even I called for Wonder Boy We'll see if they do that it depends what the ifs he wants to do with him It also if you go to because Colby's not getting another title shot This not happening ever. He said three. He's going three. So this one was four, so they're going to put him back in the line. So if you go to Colby at his age, after that performance,

look the little rusty, right? Okay. Here's Shavkat. Here's Ian Gary. Like the young hop in commerce, but look at the waves. So you have Sean Brady there. You have Shavkat. You have Blomahamed, you know, you got the savages coming through. Ian Machado Gary, JDM's fighting soon, Kevin Holland. Enjoy that. You know, and then you also got Mike of an impage in the division now.

So Colby goes, yeah. Hey bud, you're probably gonna have to win four in order to get, you have to be undeniable. He beat Shavkat, hell no. He's getting married, getting beat tough. Yeah. Sean Brady tough fight form.

Yeah, Sean Brady. You know, monster. JDM, savage. So it's the young guys turn now. So you have to go out there, want it? All right, Trump's elections coming up. You carried the flag. Thank you for that.

You're be hated for the rest of your life but still you got paid. Thank you, sir. Now let the real boys get to work. You shouldn't have been in the first place, but it's all in a genit. It's all pushing. And I'm not saying anything wrong with it.

I'm just saying, figure it out. Yeah, that was really... Because we'd be singing different, too, and if they're doing this for Biden. Completely different. If you buy it on his case, I don't think it was like, you know, yeah, I know he mumbles, but you know Come on here says the best we've ever had you know

He didn't know where he's at Biden walked to the ring. Yeah, yeah, you can't walk him out now. God. What do you think of the fights? But that that demo goes with the right demo like the if there's a Peanut butter jelly that's all it is. Yeah. Again, nothing, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, I'm just saying figure it out. All this in agenda.

Yeah, it was, I was clumsy. But, but, all of it's clumsy. That's my point. All this is clumsy and you're taking the sport out of the UFC. Now it's becoming very WWE. I would agree. And we'll see what they do next. Blah, blah, blah, blah,

deserves the titles, shots. 100, you should have had what they do next. Balama Hama deserves the titles. 100, you should have had it this time. He did it, we got this product. So again, let's see what they're gonna do. That's interesting. What's your thought on that with Balama? Just get fight. Leon, like so good though, man.

Leon's the savage. Leon's the savage. Yeah. You watch Patty Pimlet, Tony Ferguson? I did. Tough. Tough. No, no wins situation for Paddy.

I thought he handled it great. Yeah, he did. Again, remember Paddy was the In Gary before he in Gary. Yeah. Because Paddy was so hated. He's beloved, just like Ian, got all the hate after that, that Jared Gorn fight. Thought he, you know, he thought he won asking for a bonus

and bar stool and all that. People hated him. Yeah. And then next wave comes along, now it's the In Gary. So Paddy, what happened? Long layoff took a year off. It hasn't fought since last year December. Well, he got gas.

He always does. It takes a year off. We forget about it. You see him like, I like this guy. When's the fight? He's humble about it. Tony's a warrior. Perfect.

Now we're back on the patty train. That's how this goes. What do you think is next for Tony though? The thing, and I know Brian's day retired. now we're back on the patty train that's how this goes what do you think is next for tony though uh... the thing and i know brine say retired and you're going to say retire once you stop he hears my problem people say this that have never fought have never

compete on high level when you say stop when you say this guy is retired dainin needs to cut this guy okay are you gonna pay his bills who's paying his mortgage in here who's been that's not a good argument. It is. Terrible argument. Who's being this kids? Terrible argument, Bubba. All right, no, it's October. I understand what you're saying. Let me ask you to speak.

Let me ask you to speak. Let me ask you to speak. Let me ask you to speak. This, it is. It's no different. The reason you have a commission that says, you're not, you're not, forget commission. They just, they just sanction, they just sanction slapbox. I would say, I would say, I would say, commissions, a horrible argument. You're talking about brain damage on that level. To me, I'm like, I don't, it's not, it's not a fighter will die in that ring. You're gonna let fighters fight.

They'd be their fighters that would fight until they were 60. That is not the criteria and that is not who makes the call. You have a medical establishment. You have a commission. Who is that? Who is it? Well, in boxing, you have it. You can't get cleared for certain things.

You can't. But in the UFC, who is it? It's in boxing you have it. You can't get cleared for certain things. You can't. But in the UFC, who is it? It's the commission that just sent you to the flat-fighter. There should be. But there's not. So that's your argument's out. It's not out. My argument is, my argument is, they should all see it. I like that. But they should be. We all know that there is, there is, he had a story, an amazing career. I don't think it serves the sport. It definitely doesn't serve him or any other future fighters. When we just keep watching somebody take more and more damage because what happens is now it's practical. But be we all agree with this. You should stop fighting.

Yeah. My answer for you, how's he going to make money? Well, you could ask that question about anybody, right? I mean, how's he going to make money? I mean, you could say that about a lot of people. You can't say professional. The only way how's it gonna make money? I mean, you could say that about a lot of people. You can't say professional. The only way he's gonna make money is that you could say that about a lot of football players that retire, right? I mean, here, no, here's the difference. Terrible argument. Football, they split the revenue 50-50. UFC splits it 14%. But, but that's fighting. So they're not paid. But it's not, but see, it's fighting. I could have said that to any, I could say that about any fighter literally, I could say that about 90% of the fighters in UFC.

What are they gonna do now? I can promise you. You should. Yeah, this is the problem. Right. So they should be compensated. So then let's talk about a pension plan. Let's talk about things like that.

Tony doesn't have that right now. So when everybody in here says, it has stopped fighting. My question is, how is he gonna pay his mortgage? But that's not a good thing. I'm not saying he should stop fighting. That's a good argument. We don't know his financials.

Right. I know he has a family, I know he has a mortgage, I know he has car payments, I know he has to feed the kids, I know he has to pay for the school. So it's easy for us in here to go, stop fighting. I'm gonna tell you this. He's gonna, you could say that about him at any time, at any point, right?

So he could have four more fights. He's still gonna have that question. And my feeling is that he's going to be able to answer that question and he'll have a life after fighting. The sooner he stops, if he keeps going, he may be eating out of a straw and then he really has no future. So that's my issue.

Is that when you see somebody taking the kind of damage that people have taken, you have to think about their future. And so with the same argument, I said, fighters don't think about their future. Yeah, but we have to. The audience, the people that watch it, the people that watch it. I know, but you don't have to cover his not.

Then call for, then call for. Pay. And that's what the pension, and that's what they're fighting for. So at Tony's level, you talk about one of the best one in 55s all the time. In any other sport, he can retire comfortably and ride a fast.

That's my biggest problem with the thing. The only reason he's fighting is because he has a family and a nut and people go, you gotta retire, move on. Cool, do you have a job for him? You're right. Who has the job form so he can cover his food for his kids? And otherwise, if I'm Tony, or if I didn't have what I'm doing,

I'm taking that beer and I'm gonna do it. 100%. So you haven't seen it as a pension like the NFL. They have nothing. And that's why there's disused wallions. Legends who are broke, legends who have been given a job. They get done, they have nothing.

They have nothing. So for a guy like Tony, again, we can all say he needs to stop. Tony's like, where am I gonna make $100K? What job do you want me to do to make a, my nut every month, I have to make $10,000. Yeah. Oh, good big go work at the UFC gym.

I get, I make $30,000 a year doing it. I can't, I can't afford my life. What am I gonna do? But you need to stop. Okay, or I can just take some, and it sucks, but this is what it is. Or I can just take a fight. I'll be a huge underdog, I'll get fucked up, but I is what it is. Or I can just take a fight, I'll be a huge unadog,

I'll get fucked up, but I feed my family and my kids. 100%. 100%. And you're right, we need it. There has to be some kind of a fucking, some kind of a pension or something. When you fought that long, when you fought that fucking long enough,

that much of your, literally that much of your body in the ring and they leave their body in the fucking ring, they leave their brains in the ring. And that's it. See, thanks a lot. Like sail off into the sunset with nothing, dude. Nothing. You know, I don't, do you all want to do it? Does everybody want to watch a fight, like a sport like that?

Does it make you feel good? Nobody cares. I do. Yeah, but you still watch it. You watch Tony. When you have a guy, what kind of a win streak was Tony? I'm one of the best to ever do it.

Tony Ferris. You guys 12 in a row. One of the best to ever do it when he was the boogie man and he's like, Yeah. And it's like, see you later, look at that shit. Look at how hard that is. Wow.

It's so hard to do. So hard to do. So 12, yeah. 12, right? And like all fighters, there's that thing that happens, right? You saw it with Colby, you see it with Tony, with Justin, you know, look at that. I remember Tony was fighting before the cool TikTok days

and making money off Twitch and all that. He's an OG. So he doesn't have those business aspirations like these other guys. He's old school, super old school, ultimate fighter. Yeah, old school man. So the patties of the world, the sugar shons, they're good, they don't have to fight.

Tony's older man, he doesn't have those same avenues. Everyone will stop fighting. He's like, fuck this sucks. And here's the other thing you you might want to be kept from the Fc Bear Knuckles in a sign Tony. So you're out of the scene in bear knuckle. No again That's the only way he can make that lump sum of money to cover is not That's how this goes. It's the dirtiest sport in the world. It sucks. I love it. It's so dirty It's so dark. Well, I love it. I don't like that, but I love it. Yeah, right? But here's the thing. No, we're gonna do shit. Everyone's gonna keep watching. Where's Brian? Our takin' man. He was hurt. Yeah, he's coming back.

Yeah, that's the nature of the sport. But I don't condone when everyone goes, ah, he needs to get caught. He can't fight anymore. It's like, cool, we have a job farm. Well, you're gonna help his kids eat at night? I still think he's got a better future when he stops fighting. I mean, the early, early, early, early, that's what I mean. You don't sign up for fucking UFC

because you're worried about it. Well, he'll die for his family and that fucking ring. Yes. He'll die for his family and he'll keep fighting. And that's what he has to do. Yeah. Ain't that a bitch?

Yeah, it's a bitch. It's a real bitch. When you're watching that, all this is how it ends for everybody, unless you're a conmerc record. That's exactly right. Every single fight that you see, this is how it ends. This is why that lawsuit's so important. This is how it goes.

We all watch it. We're all here for the circus. That's why even with the in-gear stuff. Okay, you want to ruin this young kid's whole fucking thing. It's unbelievable. What's the point? What is the point? What do you want them to, you want the kid to grow up

and then broken home? What are you doing? Like, give me a fucking break. You don't think it's people, people suck, dude. They suck. They suck. That Bryce Mitchell, Josh Emmett, knockout was hard to watch. Awful.

Yeah. And Bryce took that fight last minute. Yeah. Awful matchup for him. Couldn't be a worse matchup. Just because... Emerson Pals will take down. He hits like a Mack truck. Bryce Mitchell has no striking,

hasty engage with it. You know, it's tough. When you're so one-dimensional, it gets tough, man. Staying age. That was a flat line. You have to show them, you know, convulsing. the mentality to get stuff man. Staying age. That was a flat line. You have seen shows them, you know, convulsing.

Yeah, what's your take on that? That's their audience. Yeah. Some of audience loves that Colby. They go like this. People love when Sean Strickland does this stuff. People that jumped in the stands and the shit he talks and that he brings it down. That's people like that. But I think that's different.

People like this toxic. Strickland, you know, doing that to me is like a little different. That's the drama that's like. Do you know the background Strickland? No. It's childhood. He was abused by his father. He'll talk about it.

You need to hit your kids more. Like, you know, it's a dark start. Gave that a gun to commit suicide. You know, it's all dark. Yeah Gave that a gun to commit suicide, you know, it's all dark. Yeah, it's dark, it was dark. And I think that there's, so if you look at like, I'll leave you look at, any of the grades, if you look at Larry Bird,

if you look at Michael Jordan, look, these guys are competitors at the highest level. They talk trash and everything else. It was always classy though, they kept it classy. There is, there's something, that's why there's something called sportsman like conduct and you have it in football When you hit somebody in football you get fined you get in real trouble the NFL's run that way and it makes the sport actually better I think it makes it more it does though. It does you have to have standards you have to have class

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I feel cool, I understand that. The issue with this is, what repercussions happened to Dreek is to police in Sean Strickland? Nothing. There's no repercussions. There's, that matter of fact, you probably get a bigger bone. That's right.

Yeah. Now, part of it is fighting, part of it is, you know, this is a raw form of sport in a sense. It's like the original sport. It's like two guys in their underwear, and it is supposed to have an element of savagery. You could make that argument, because it's like actual combat. But I do think that, you know, boxing doesn't have that.

Boxing is vicious. They talk trash, they got it. But the greatest trash shocker Muhammad Ali never did that stuff. You know, so you gotta just be careful. You put your business hat on your day and white. How's boxing doing? My ex-boyfriend was pretty crazy.

Boxing is dead, bubba. I wonder if boxing is dead, but it's in the computer you see? You have to see. It's close. But I don't know that. I wonder if Bob's dead, but it's in. Compared to UFC. UFC's. But I don't know that the, again, I think trash talk. And trash talk works. Trash talk is great. There's a line.

Yeah, trash talk is great for the most part. Guys don't cross that line. To be honest, like, you have a few, Colby did a thing which I told, he did it because there's a desperation move. I didn't think it was older. He needs to get Leon out of his game to pressure forward. And you know, he knew he was gonna be hated for it

and that was his only, that was his Hail Mary. Didn't work. Did not work. Yeah, sportsman, you still wanna be sportsman, I believe the sportsman. I believe the sportsman. And then the culture of the MMA is what makes it for guys to jump on

in here. It's the cool thing to do. Jump on me or patty pin there. It becomes the cool thing like it's a it's the bully syndrome where everyone's like all right. Let's pick on that kid. He's an easy target. It's the gladiator Roman so they all get involved in becomes this shit storm. Yeah. It's all they do. Laughing with blood in your mouth. You know and and so part of what we love is when two guys go at it They but they trash talk then they fight like a month they crush each other But like even with even with Kobe and and and Usman, you know what I liked after that fight what they do they hugged

After that fight they went, you know, I had to sell the fight right? That's I knew you know, yeah, that's fine cuz he's not talking trash like No, he was like, I had to sell the fight. No, it was great to separate him. You're not cool. He can't talk shit about someone's dead, though. No. No matter what, he's not. That was my problem with Connor when he did that with,

with Kabeeb about his dad and actually put his dad in, and other people in actual questionable political turmoil with Putin and stuff that was weird. He was really, really pushing the line. I didn't respect that. And then when he says to, uh, two fucking, uh, he gets his leg broken, doesn't purge because your wife's slid into my DMs.

Like, come on, did you lost already? Just relax. You know, what are you doing? You're crazy. It's just losing. You're losing. You're feeling out the lot. Yeah, they're losing their sense of self.

They're trying to figure out the line is, they find out the hard way. There you go. People go, oh, we're not on board of this. My bet. And I would even make the argument, like when you go. People go, oh, we're not on board of this. I bet. That's the line. I would even make the argument. When you see people go to that line, how's it work out for them?

It's never worked out for anybody. Right. Never works out for them. Connor with Aldo it worked out but outside that. Yeah, but even with Aldo it was great because he was like, I'm your daddy. He was coming at him. Right. He's coming on a pretty hardcore.

But again, he did that. Take a page of of Kobe's book, he did it to get Aldo to fight emotional and yes. And forget about the gameplay and storm forward, so it could clip them. Just son, it was crazy trash talker, but it was always about him. He was always like, you know,

he's scared of the line. He was great. Yeah, Chale's great. He was a little different. But again, it's the culture. It's the TikTok, like the Logan Pauls of the world, these kid on Danis are awesome. There's no, they aren't.

It's gonna get me views. Yeah. Isn't it older people's job though, to at least say, there's a reason, let me, hey, young guys, can I tell you why that's bad? You know whose job it is? Who's the U of C's? Well, you know why, because they're older.

When they have that, of course, right? It's the U of C, it's Dana White, it they're older. When they have that, of course. Right. It's the U of C. It's Dana White. It's the brass. When they have that meeting, that annual summit. 100% at Red Rocks. 100% at Red Rocks. They know.

Real quick. Fellas, this is, you're gonna get $10,000 if you talk about somebody's dad. Dad. If you do this, these are the guidelines. We can't have it. Exactly. But they make money off of it. So they do have it.

I don't expect it. That's why people tune in the, that's what sucks. Well, it's not, you just said it. Yeah. You just fucking said it. That, that, that, that, that, that, Does that NFL has that? 100% NBA has that.

Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, MLB has that. The adults in the room. The successful, Pelletale young girl. Hey, fellas, we were all in the, that business, we were young men. All idiots, okay.

We were like, hey, inmates. You're letting the inmates run the asylum. Exactly. So of course they're gonna pop off, and then when you encourage it, or a guy gets a main event next, or a guy gets booked on a major card next, they go, oh man, I can't, I went really dark,

but he's getting applauded for, he's getting money for it. So there you go, that's what I have to do. Do you know even though he's rewarding his behavior? Even in the animal kingdom, when the poachers are coming in and kill the big male elephants and take their tusks, they had the long tusks, what would happen is the adolescent males would, they didn't grow up with the big males telling them

how to behave. So they would start bullying everybody and like, goring the older females, no, and the entire structure broke down. Gang is con. When Gang is con was taking over the world, the young boys would follow, they would watch the older men so they could learn how to be warriors. But the younger boys would watch the older boys come in, rape, kill, just indiscriminately,

take shit, right? Guess what happened? Those younger boys would go back to the camps and they would do that to the women in their camp. They would turn on the, they would like, well, what? That's how we act. That's how my fucking brother does have my, my dad does it. What's wrong with it? So then they'd see a girl over there and they'd rape her and then gang is con and they top brass and the Mongols were like, we can't have this. We're actually having, we're having, we have to establish rules. Yeah. We have to establish, so what he would do then as you'd say,

and that's okay, what we're gonna do, send a scout out and say, look, if you do what we say and let us come through and feed us and let us take over, you can keep everything the way it is. If you fight us, we're gonna fucking love you. But even the Mongols had to figure out where it went. Poor savages.

Yeah, because that shit, that shit'll be a snake eating its own tail. And that was my argument with Colby and all that being. Yeah, is rough. And then to perform that way, it's rough. Yeah, Shavkat, Ruck Marnoff, serious. Now he actually, he grappled so much and people were surprised because he had an injury going into that.

He did? Yeah, really bad ankle injury. Oh shit. But he's the next guy. He is right Yeah, really bad ankle injury. Oh shit. But he's the next guy. 18-18 finishes. He's the next guy. Monster.

He's the guy. I think Wonderboy's what, 41? 41. He had Jack Blackwack him out. Great, really? Yeah. Guy didn't see that part. What a great career.

Oh yeah, one of the best. He keeps fighting. He'll never get a hit. He hasn't taken that much damage. Yeah, he has. Yeah, he has, but one or two more. He has one or two more. He'll be 41 soon, 41, it's tough, man.

The other thing too, you gotta decide, and he has other, he has his family on the biggest karate school in South Carolina. Like he's set financially, but you're not fighting for titles anymore. Like those days are done. Kobe not fighting for titles anymore, so what do you do it?

You know? That's a good point. Yeah. You're gonna take it to the... You don't want to be just, you don't want to keep doing it just to be a guy. No one started just to be a guy. That's why I got it.

You don't want to be just a guy. No. Once you realize you're gonna be a champ, you're gonna get out of there, man. Yeah. Cause the only way you're making a religion, money's being a champ. Just being a guy is never good.

Yeah. I'd love to see a Wonder Boy fight MVP if he makes it through Kevin hall. That's a great move That'd be cool. I think he is one of you really cool fight. That's a good call. I'd like to see that Hold his Michael van and page. He's out there now. He was so stupid good Might be 37 36 still got some fight them Good. Might be 37. 36. Still got some fighting them. Has he lost a step or is he just as... We'll see, because he's over in Belator.

We don't know. This is a different game, man. Different game. They're getting a fair matchup with Kevin Holland then after this. I'm already that fight with Lima. Oh, that guy's such a killer. Oh, for Patty Pamlet, now you, you know, if he's done their job, now it's time to take

the mitts off. Now you have to fight some guys. You may get to fight some guys. Yeah, fight some guys. They, they, they, they just do, he's got, he's such a draw that they, they don't want to put him in with. They are now, like, you can only cuddle a guy for so long. 21st and you're like, who's next for you?

For who, Patty? It's me on top 15 guy, because it's time to share, get off the pot. I'll tell you who they better fucking not toss him. I'll tell you right now, who they better not give Patty Pimlet. I'll tell you fucking right now. He's ranked number 12,

they call him BSD,, a com BDSM. It's Benoit St. Denise. I swear to God, if they give Patty Benoit, I'm gonna freak the fuck out. Why? This guy, he's a special forces guy in France. He's the scariest fucking thing you've ever seen in the OCD. Homsa looks like a cuddly bear next to it.

This guy is such a savage. He's a special forces guy too. Oh yeah, his nickname's the God of War. It looks like he's taking a coffee break when he's that octagon. He's such a problem. If they give fucking patty this guy, know this.

The U.S. is done with patty bin lit. Really? You gotta watch him fight. You fought our boy, you fought our boy, Furola, good last time, and it was a fucking nightmare. Wait, what was he doing? What was he? He knocked out a boy, Matt steam roller,

Furola, with a kale head kick. Ooh. He's such a problem. It's so rude, How good he is. And he's 12. Do you like the, do you like the real life? And he's just, he just speed, that's a long, long night for our boy.

I mean, he could compete in the top three right now. So the UFC is just trying to get him more face time before he steam rolls through whoever. Oh, he's such a problem. Is he a contender? He's 12, what does he have, Matt? They have Matt. 12, okay.

Okay. These poor guys that have to fight him. He does everything right. And does him break a sweat. He doesn't get excited. Well, he said his interview. Commando, right? He kills people, dude.

If they, dude, I swear to God, if they give patty him, I'm gonna freak out. That's so rude. I don't know, nope. And notice, you've never heard of, nobody's talking shit to him. No. Oh, everyone is.

Oh. That's one of those, you know. And he's not like, some of those guys are above the frame. He's not, harm's not talking shit, you know, all right. He's probably on a mission right now. He's probably killing people in Ukraine or something like that. Right?

And he's like, he's got a match up. He's like, cool, just tell somebody else. Can I see what he is in the French military? Is he, he doesn't talk about it? Oh, yes. I say, he doesn't talk about shit. I probably just introduce you to your favorite fighter Yeah, first marine infantry paratrooper French Army Special Forces command

Served in Molly during the war West Africa Hold on hold up served in West Africa fighting terrorist groups. You think he's scared of Makachem? Yeah. No, that guy is one of those special dudes. Yeah, with his fucking beard.

He was awarded the Medal of Nations Gratitude, Combined it, Cross, is a savage. Yeah, he's got some shit going on. Thought it middleweight. Yeah, and he seems to be, he seems to have a broad knowledge of fighting in general. No ghee, you know, wrestling, French kickboxing, all that stuff.

He's a, he's a problem. Yeah. He's a problem. He's a problem. Yeah, he's been doing it. Ben Was and Danny, let me see. Who's that? Is that his lady?

It's gotta be you wife. Yeah. Wow. There he is. Good luck. Good luck, huh? Yeah, you don't want to do that. Good luck.

Yeah. That guy. And the other guys, don't want to get in. Yeah, look at him, look at him. Yeah. That guy. And the other guys, their faces are blocked out. Yeah. Dude, if you have a picture, we got a block at your friend's face. Yeah, you don't want that.

Killing terrorists. Yeah. That's different. You're doing a job, Vol. A lot of killing going on. To the entire division. Good luck. I sound like the bad guy from taking.

Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. I've set a bad guy from taking good luck. Good luck. I've set a skills. I will find you. Good luck. Oh boy, he finds him. Done. Yep. Yep. Every time. Every time. All three, all three movies. I'm real. He might be your favorite fighter now. Yep. He certainly is. Cause you let you drag off to special Forces guy. He's got some hairy chests. Oh, come on. No.

Is that Russian panty? Yeah, it does. Do you like that? It's a no. I mean, I, you don't mind it. I mean, no. You know, I'm mind a hairy man. What if it was a little hard?

He's not too bad. Yeah, he's not, he's not like. No, he's not hairy like. He's not like, or lofts, here's some. Yeah, but it's good. You gotta have a little hairy. Yeah, that's a like. He's not like. He's not like, or lofty or some, yeah, but it's good. You gotta have a little hair. You're not too nice. So how does he transition from special forces?

And just, oh, I'm just gonna do UFC. Well, he's always been training. Right, hand-hand combat. Yeah. And the mentality wise, good luck breaking that guy. Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, I didn't think about that. You can just stay uncomfortable for a much longer time

than most people. I bet trash talking doesn't affect him either. No, I was talking to, I was talking to a couple of those guys. And I was like, this Delta guy was talking to me. I go, what is it about that you're able to, what do you think is the thing? He goes, I think it's just, it's like you're just as cold, you get cold, you get hungry.

But if some people are able to just stay uncomfortable for a longer period of time, it's like, I'm just gonna be uncomfortable for three months, and you're gonna break after the first two hours. That's like, all right. The two factors, the way they get guys like that, the way you make it into that kind of unit, are two things, sleep deprivation and the cold. You can break men by, all you have to do is you want to find the toughest guys in the group, you reduce their sleep and you get them cold. And there's guys like, I personally,

I do not have the constitution to be, I can deal with sleep deprivation. But if you make me cold, I am a bitch. I can't keep heat in my body. My neck is too fucking long. You just don't have a bill for it. I don't have a chest. No, the whole thing, right?

Don't do that. No, hey. Hey, don't have a chest. No, the whole thing, right? But there's just, don't do that. No, it's, hey. The whole, hey. The whole get up. Don't go like that, though. Well, the whole, no, no. It's not just your neck. It's just the neck.

I don't have this, I don't have it. Yeah, I don't have that. No, it's just, no, it's just, that's okay. I don't have the strength to carry that on my waist. No, you just, just not made for you. Yeah. Yeah. You're not carrying anybody.

Yeah, but I could be like, on the outskirts, the sniper. No, you watch on the TV. No, no, no. Yeah, but I could be like on the outskirts, the sniper. No, you watch it on the TV. No, no, no, no, let me be the guy on the outskirts. Like, you guys go get him. Not for you, because you still got a high and carry a bunch of loins. No, I can hike, just I don't want to carry a lot of stuff. Just like a gun.

Twitch a gun. Or better yet, I have somebody carry that shit for me. And I'm just super good at shooting. Yeah, you have to be real special. Right? Yeah. Right? Yeah, you could. Here, give me my gun. Can you load it for me? Just special. Right? Yeah. Right? Yep.

You could. Here, give me my gun. Can you load it for me? Just don't know how to load it and stuff. Well, it's just like, my fingers can be called. A lot. Yeah, it can be called. Like all that metal.

Well, I've messed up my finger on the trigger. I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding,

I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, I was holding, Oh, yeah. So Brian, can you do a cold water challenge? Can we put you in one of those tub? That's not a problem for me. No, I can do all that. Who would last longer, you were a Brendan? No, no, I can, well, he did ice baths. Also, he's built it for me. But I can do that stuff. That's not, I can, I'll surprise you with,

but also the cold plunges, it's only like three minutes. Right, but I'll surprise you with, it's not that I'll, I'll probably surprise you with my endurance, right? So if you want me to do burpees or I kind of fit, that's not a problem. It like I'm talking, right? It's no days like cold nights.

That's it. Now you got me cold, now you got me tired. I'm talking about even in my prime, not 56. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna bend. But when I was even younger, there was a time when I did, I tried to really do all this crossbutt stuff to climb a rope faster, do a friend, and I really pushed myself, and I did, I did, all right, I surprised myself.

I did wrestling, I had a little bit of a mentality, but it's when you have to carry, I was in Afghanistan and I put on an entire, a marines and entire thing, it was so fucking heavy. It's just too heavy. It's like 85 pounds. I'm not strong that way. I can deadlift the most I've ever deadlift is 300 pounds. Now I'm older. That's terrible. It's not good. Come on. It's not weak for deadlift. There's kids in high school. Well kids in high school 500 pounds. Yeah. What I'm saying is that I'm not there's things you can be built for like dance and there are things you can build for which is like carrying a lot of shit war You just have to be built a different way war. Yeah Shut up

No, I'm not there are fighters like there are fighters who are skinny and like you know That may not be able to do it either you can be really good a sport in your weight class But if when you're doing that you got like Dan Hooker the hangman he's super skinny. Yeah, that motherfucker Can you put 80 pounds on so much bigger Not bigger than you think he's tall. You're your high on saying but I'm saying Dan is also on the offseason When Dan's not fighting. He's not fat to do in though. He's the he's still gonna Dance a 200 no, he's a thinner kid, but he's still he's still fucking hangman for a reason He's still thick though, Bob. He's still got my muscle

He's still I guarantee when he's not training like when he's walking around He gets about 190 195 that's a lot of weight Comparable Well, Nate is a mom's big either right? He's a skinny guy big I'm hungry Nate So when I was hanging out with Nate and San Diego I would say I'm our our our definition of big is very different But Baba he's 190. That's not a big guy. I know, but it is, I'm saying for you, compared to like, like, real, one-hit, like, real, like,

still, Brieber, Brian, comic, smaller guy. Yeah. Real shit, 190 is nothing. No, that's what I'm saying, though, is, it's, you're not even the ballpark, Baba. No, but I'm saying, it's 250, 260, lean.

But, but, 64, 65. But there are plenty of soldiers that are 190, right? So you, you still have to have a certain bone structure, like, lean. But, but, six, four, six, five. But there are plenty of soldiers that are 190, right? So you still have to have a certain bone structure, like Nick Diaz, I mean, is bigger than his brother. He's still, Nick can be 200 when he walks around. Big head, you know, big body. But no one would look at him, say that's a big guy.

No, that's what I mean. But he's not small, right? He's just a guy. So if I'm not big, he's not small, he's not small. If I had to fight with my weight, I would literally have to think about fighting a 135. Maybe 145, but probably 135, literally. With my frame. Sean O'Malley is my size.

Really? Sean's like, as tall as I am and every bit is, you know, I mean, you know, he's maybe a little thinner, but barely. Then, yeah. And he sucks down to 135. But again, different. No, he's an athlete and I'm saying, physically,

there's just different things. I don't know that, you know, it's, it's, it, Mentally, it separates them. Mentally, it separates all these guys. Like you're not gonna break the Diaz, you're not gonna break that fucking special forces French. There's nothing you can do in a fight that those guys break. Yeah. It's impossible. Special forces, there's nothing you can do to break them. That's

why when they torture them, they just kill them. Like, all right, it's not happening. You can't there's there's no nothing in doing the world that these guys are gonna break. Dan and Kormaac doesn't break. John Jones doesn't break. Now there's guys who are crazy talented and have almost that mentality, but then something happens they'll fight and they have one slip up and they break. So one of the things in the SEALS, the guys that go on become champions,

unbreakable. But there are things in the SEAL training. Some guys get hypothermia. There are guys that hype out. No matter what they do, they just have a constitution that can't handle it. So you can be tough as shit, athletic as shit, really strong.

You have a certain kind of body, you get hypothermia. They'll stick a thermometer in your ass when you're working. Well remember, even those guys with hypothermia, they'll still, they don't break here. They're still down to go. Right, but they have to pull the instructor as a pull amount.

Yeah, they go, they get delirious, and they just can't do the training. So, but again, it doesn't matter. That's a breaking point. They even have another theory that's really interesting about how, like, when you're really tired, right? Sometimes you'll be in the jungle and a twig will go in your eye or you'll twist your ankle, okay?

Or you'll get a fracture. All good. There's a good reason for it. You step down the wrong thing. Here's the rub. Some people they, they have their awake just a little bit more than you are. They, they're a little bit more endure, they're endurance a little stronger so they can see that twig for last second. They go like that. Or they, they see that thing and they go, I'm not going to turn, I'm not going to step there. Or, or they

don't get a compound fracture. Why? I don't know. They have stronger bones, dancer bones, who the fuck knows? You know, so that's just the difference. It's really interesting. So if he and I are on a march, he played football forever. He never got injured. He just has a different bone structure. He's gonna be able to carry more weight. He doesn't get cold as easily.

He's gonna be able to carry shit. He's just gonna, you know, I could break him if he's really tired maybe, but everybody can break when they're tired or whatever after nine days or whatever, but in the training he's just not gonna, he's just not gonna break the way other guys do. Physically, he just, that's the,

it was my favorite thing. I used to love to see guys break. Love it. Wrestlers are the same way. I'd rather die before I stop. Yeah. That's how, that's Tony Ferguson. All of us have the same mentality. They'd rather, when you stopped. Yeah. That's Tony Ferguson. All of us have the same mentality.

They'd rather, when you go all about a CT, what he'd rather go out on the shield, then go work at fucking Jeffy Lou. Fuckin' I went to Dan Gabel's wrestling camp and they would train you, we trained with the Hawkeyes and the whole idea was to train you. I couldn't understand what they were doing to us. Three days, it was three days of training,

three times a day. And I was like, this is the worst shit I was limping. But the idea was, we're gonna over train you to see if you can handle it. And even in that camp, a third of the camp didn't graduate. Because they were just, they were fucking toward train us. We'd wake up at 5'30, I didn't know what the fuck was going on. The thing they don't put the resource in kids

that aren't built for that. So it's not for everybody. It's a hard lesson for people to learn. I learned it. No, I know. You got it. I wrestled all four years. You did the camp.

Well, I was just, even wrestling, but it's good even for my son with baseball. Like he was at a level where it's like, all right, everybody plays, you know, the headings, there's no, there's no, you know, mercy rule, or there are mercy rules. Like, your one plays, it's all good. So he did that. And, thennings, there's no, there's no, you know, mercy rule, or there are mercy rules like, you're one plays, it's all good. So he did that. And then he excelled

there. And now he's on a travel all-star team. And then now it's like, it's a commitment. So, you know, he had two games all day Saturday. We're packing a lot of his day through Friday. Then Sunday, he had two games. And Sunday, even I was like, God damn, but I'm used to it. So I'm just driving, no complaints. I'm excited for the game and then he's like, oh this is how it goes. This is how we deal with it. It's what we do, dude. I see what the rest of your friends are doing.

He's like, sleeping in, whether at six a.m. throwing the ball. Yeah, because that's how I'm used to it. How do you keep from burning out? He does what he wants to do it. No, he wants to. He wants to do it. He's out there, happy as fuck.

Some kids love that shit. It's crazy at seven to have that discipline. It's not discipline He wants to do it. He's out there, happy as fuck. Yeah, some kids love that shit. It's crazy at seven to have that discipline. It was not this fun, they just love it. But it's also good for him to see. Like I'm not like, oh man, another game Sunday. Oh hell no, I'm crying for it. Hell yeah, you want to do this dude? Let's do it.

We're driving an hour, you know, 6 a.m. he loves it. Love's it. Yeah. And there's even kids on the team, like so many kids are sad. The way these kids are learnings. Now there's also another kind of strength. There are different kinds of strength.

Different creative strengths. Some people are way more, you know, a lot of comics are fucking hilarious, but they're full like a chair and most things. Yeah. It just depends on the different strength. Everybody's different. That's it. Just stay in your life. When he can just depends on different strength. Everybody's different. That's it.

Just stay in your mind. When he can blend the two, you got it coming hard. Yeah. Yeah. Strong, mentally great work ethic, hilarious, atomic, sky rockets. What's the what you get? Yeah.

So it goes. Yep. Rogan. Yep, there. Yep. Rogan. Yep. There you go. Rogan. That Rogan's a fucking savage. Savage.

Yep. Oh, I was in San Diego doing stuff for my truck. I think I was like, you're energy man. Because we got there. We bluffed that for in the morning and then I have to shoot. You know, he's like, you're energy. How do you do it? I was like, I didn't think about it.

It's just what we do. Oh, no, it was great. Absolutely what we do. When I was there, I spoke hand, they were talking about they owner of the club and the other people were like, man, job, he's the nicest guy. And I was like, I go, yeah, yeah, I go, no, but he's so nice. Like, you think he'd be this big UFC guy and kind of be.

He was so nice to all of us. He let his drinks whiskey. I go, that's Brendan. That's why we're really good for. That's why it's my best friend. Yeah, we're not hanging out because we're with. There's another reason I was like, what a surprise. What do you mean he treated?

Wait, you mean treated all you really well? Yeah. Yeah. That's what Nick was like. Nick, Nick, when you left the Yeah. That's what Nick was like. Nick, when you left the room. Nick Simmons. Nick was like, his clips are so good.

He's so funny. Nick goes, he's a fucking, he calls his wife, he goes, it's a fucking best guy. He's such a good guy. Yeah. Yeah, Nick's great. He's crouching it, huh? Yeah, he's doing great.

It's fucking awesome. Yeah, he's like the next big thing. His clips are so good. So funny. So funny. He's the one guy I watch his clip. He was killing it this weekend. He's getting good. Fucking killing it. I said to him, I go, I said to him, I go, I said to him, I go,

oh my god, great work ethic. I said to him, stays in shape. We work out. It's just fucking kills me on the gym. He goes, I said to him, I go, your job is my feature is to have to look at me and say, I can't do this anymore. Oh, I gotta go. That's my, the whole, if you're gonna feature for me, the idea is to use me as a stepping stone.

I don't need, like, he was waiting around on the last show and I was like, hey, dude, you can go home, you have an early flight. Don't wait for me. You don't work for me. It's just bad. We work together, yeah. He's like, he's that guy. Yeah, same, I've never had anybody not open up for me, then they don't become, to go headliners. I mean, yeah, he's like, he's that guy. That same, I've never had anybody not open up for me,

then they don't become to go headliners. I mean, David Lucas, Chipel Lacey, he's dad when he was at the loss, his mom when he was 17. Yeah. And she had cancer for eight years. So he lived with that and he was super close to her. So he watched her and his mother, they gave his mother six months to live and she goes,

I'm gonna watch my son graduate. And she did. Yeah, he's a beast. Yeah. Why are you so far behind him? So I can look even skinnier? That's a witch pick. Somebody took that that we were standing there.

Somebody said to you. Yeah. Gotta get on the old TRT. Photographer, look natural, me. That's gonna be pretty. Bad shoes I have on, huh? Ooh, those are tough. You don't like bad that though, but Are those those have too many stripes to be a deed as what are those those are those are case-swiss? Oh

My god I think you were the one who were like I think you were like no I mean you were like those are case-swiss and I think I never warm again go I at I was like oh these are not good you know what you were doing your hang around the tennis guys Yes, bunch of pucks, you know Sorry, no, I don't say that can I get in your truckers. I'm not allowed still not still no so no Definitely not now, huh not allowed in the truck not allowed in the truck You know we missed you like I could have used you on a companion. Of course.

So good. You know, Bradley, and Rampage is the best. He's the best. We talked a lot of flat earth. Because the fights were a little boring. We talked a lot of flat earth. And then, you know, Rampage, he doesn't watch UFC fights. You know, like he's not into the UFC.

It's just, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he him when he's lifting he had 720. Oh, yeah I'm hearing that crazy shit like six seven three hundred pounds insane like there is he's just an absolute fucking monster on natural totally Oh my god Trap daddy, but he's so strong. It's weird like watch what he does like you see what he does and you're like how's he doing The strong one against the big boys. Huh? How's he doing? I talk so so big boys? I know, is that built? How's he doing against the big boys? I talk so, so I talk to you. You know what I'm saying? I call Brian Shaw.

I text Brian Shaw. He was, he was, he had 720 like this, but look, like this. And he was squatting. I said, can you do that serious question? And he goes, it said something like, does the fuck, does a bear shitting on what's, yeah, he can do that. Brian Shaw. But he said, but he was, but I have to, but right now I'm training for fighting.

He goes, I'd have to train for that. It's not like I just, it's not like, how's he stack up to against like the Brian Charles and the Thorors? Not as strong, not as strong, it's not as strong. You were like, how strong was Gens. Oh my God. It's stupid.

But he's respected. I mean, you know, it's like, like he's respected. It's crazy how strong. Okay. But that's a crazy body. Six, seven. I'm proud of him. Look at his back. Hmm. I mean

He's doing crazy shit. He's doing crazy shit It's cool to see and he's somewhere out in the middle of like Australia. He's just out there doing crazy. We now see his This funny rampage then because the rampage does look good and Bradley good all of us like Yeah, yeah, we all look good right and good and Bradley good all of us like and all the good right and uh values like God rapids we've been doing say it's a new trainer man blah blah being trained is an all natural values

he's not yeah rapids are so pissed I don't come on rapids I said I always used 42 and then and then uh Bradley is yeah yeah because the 42 it's so normal to look that jacked and shredded and then but I I get the I don't want to go

bad on his training. I love him. So I said, I said, there he is. That's him. He goes, he's all natural. And I said, there is guys who are freaks. He might be one of the great freaks. That's why I said, I know a few guys, Tim Tebow, Joe Klopp and Stein, they can eat whatever they want and they just, it's just their genetics.

Who is that guy? That's his trainer. Well, he's fantastic. Why is he not running for president? What a great thing. He's a's his trainer. Well, he's fantastic. Why is he not running for president? What a great day. He's a head of hair. Oh, he's fantastic. Well, he's fantastic. Whoa. Well, you know what he is? He's fantastic in general. And he should always wear that outfit. Oh, dude, he's taking it. Oh, and he's taking these. There's no joking around here. This is all serious. And that is as natural as you get.

But with like, if he has a strict, that's what Rampage says, has like the strictest diet, you can get there. I don't know how to height and weight. Bradley said absolutely not, but I disagree. I know some freaks. There are some freaks.

There's some freaks. He might be one of them. Like DJ Medcalf, I was looking at his body. Like that guy's just a freak of freaks. The difference is he's like all pro receiver, right, this guy, right? But the freaks are out there as well. The freaks are out there, yeah, genetically,

they're out there. Like that guy, yeah, that's a better body than I have. Yeah. When you can sport a crop top as a man, you know you're doing some play. Yeah, he's a freak. Yeah, he's so talented. Yeah, he's just like,

I don't want point six, wife, that's a lie. That's all right, don't you? Is that one point one? Yeah, that's not real. Yeah, he's just so talented. I don't want point six, wife, that's a lie. That's all right, though. Can't you say at one point away? Yeah, that's not real. One point six. Body fat. That's on a deal. That's dumb.

Like when Ronnie Coleman came on Rogan, I was like, I was at two percent body fat. That's not real. You actually know a lot about stuff like that. Yeah. You do actually know a lot of nutrition. Yeah, literally impossible. Because you always call out, you're always like,

no, I don't think so. Like that cryo thing. Yeah, it's clik-bamish. It's like this. You were saying nothing about the cryo, and I was like and you were like second-of-last I've also been in it like my boy club was shredded in college and we all did our body fat. And he was like 12% yeah, that's all that's very long. So lean yeah So when they say 1.6 like no, that's not and you do it by lowering you lower in water and you do that We did see you they had everything that this egg thing that the Calbers the NFL come and do it by lowering it lower in water and you do that. We did see they had everything, that this egg thing, that the cowards, that the NFL come and do it.

So I see shredded black dudes, they'd be like at the most 9%, shredded. So 1.6 come on. It's fun for clicks. Yeah, he's probably lowest ship, that's not real. No, but brand page was always super muscular. He's a naturally very thick muscular guy. He's looked so much better.

And 42 still, you still got stuff going on. He had carbs and forever. Yeah, yeah. But he looked shredded though. He looked great. Yeah. He's trying to get a fight with Lennox Lewis. I didn't know he wasn't retired.

He told me he was like, yeah, no, I'm not retired. Hmm. Hmm. Lennox Lewis, boxing. Hmm. Okay. Like some legend fight. Okay. but Saudi money. That's great. Mm-hmm. Sad he's gonna try that enjoy that enjoy that yeah stuff with Lanx I don't know what it looks been doing, but yeah, I tune what he got oh you guys talk about bodies. So there's this kid

Like it finding here I don't know how to say it's in Walt. Tessie Walt. Tessie. Tessie. So at the apparently that's him in high school He's like 17 now. I think oh my god. Oh Well some people are just made to To run through people or just do sport on a high level. He looks like Mac He looks like Mac from fucking the San Diego charges He looks like Mac. He looks like Mac from fucking the San Diego Chargers. Yeah, actually.

He's a teenager? I mean, these are pictures from when he was, I think he was 16, I think he's 17 hours. I liked it. He's like, get though. But everyone's so quick, you'll steroids. That's fake. No, I don't know.

I knew a kid in high school like that. I didn't. That fucking big in the 70s? Yeah. No, that's not 70s also in the 80s. Please be respectful. Why didn't no That fucking big in the 70s? Yeah. No, that's not 70s also in the 80s. Please be respectful. Why didn't no, do I? I'm just spit upon ideas, dude.

I don't have time. I'm all the time. I'm all the time. God damn it. That dude is jack. That is so fucking insane. It's always weird there because people think he's that jack.

He's been super starting to get to college and he's like, oh, all the linebackers look like this? Yes. He gets people early, right? Yeah. You don't want a mustache in high school. It's never a good sign. It's a full bloated beard, like that's never a good sign.

You don't want a peak in high school. Yeah. The good days are still ahead, buddy. It's probably a freak, though. All right. Have you heard about this Boston mayor, Michelle Wu? Yeah. So, someone from her team sent out this email,

I guess it's an annual party where it's called... Something about, like, for color, something like that. It's a party only for color, elected officials of color. That's what it's called, at least. So, they have six minorities and seven white members in town.

Can you see where she went to school? Yeah. This is what's happening in school. Let me see it. But anyway, since the council comprised of six minority and seven white members who are not intended targets of the email. So they had to email a back saying for the white people. Sorry, it was a mistake to say.

To have been like you guys. So it's like this. Did they throw an all white party and that's okay? That's what I'm saying. Like if I'm a white guy, they're like, okay, I guess we'll throw a white party, no pun intended. So it's like reverse racism, basically. And yeah, it was every year. Well, looks like some white people there. Well, I mean, she's probably like Latina.

She's like a first nation or some indigenous. Something like that. Like, okay. So the white people don't get a party, be it the... It's hilarious. The email is a party. It's hilarious.

The white people get... I'm gonna have the hair, the their life is a party. It's hilarious. White people get to have the hair. I'm gonna have to call her. Hold on. Let's see, I cordially invite you and I guess to elect electeds of color holiday party. How do you think that makes the white people feel, man? Yeah. Not that anybody gives a shit this day and age, but.

So my thing is, okay, if you guys can do that, is it a race if I throw the only white party? You know what shit I would get? But why, how's it any different? It's not. If they don't have a Christmas party, and the whites are like, I guess we'll just throw our party

same party every year. It was called the white party. You know, when I went to, I went to boarding school in Massachusetts and they had these things where they would have only, like they'd have a get together of people of color and stuff. This was going on in the liberal Schools, I don't have a problem with it. My problem is all right

You have the whatever the black's only party next to the only party do you think but don't give me shit for having a white only party And it's gonna be way more lit. Don't be mad. How's it any different than what you guys are doing? Well, the idea is always that hard. The idea is that you're always white parties. But if you want to name yours, I hate it. I hate it.

Yeah. But you gotta remember that there is seven percent. Why won't we call it the white party? Yes, seven percent of young people only party. 70% of young Americans pulled, I think under 25 or under 24, considered the United States as an oppressor nation.

Because that's what they're told. Yeah, that's what they're taught. That's what they're in. That's what they're in. Over people back to the elephants killing each other. You're right, Bob. You need older elephants going, no, no, no. They're gonna tell you, we have all these problems.

Go to Ukraine, go to Gaza, go to Africa. You wanna see problems? Try being gay in Brazil. Let me know what goes for you. We're actually safe here, but they want us fighting for a reason. That's right. Matthew Perry doing ketamine.

They said he had enough ketamine in his system. It was like he was getting an operation. Yeah, in Estesia. But I read he was doing ketamine therapy for six weeks and then stopped. But do you do that heavy of a dose when you're in therapy? I don't know. I have friends who do Academy of Therapy and it worked for him.

He had everything in the world and he just, he had suffered from, I guess, depression. Said he smoked two packs a day too. Yeah, he was trying to kill himself. He was trying to get off of it. Then they said he was on TRT and it gave him horrible outrages. All right, come on.

I've seen nothing but, I I see this, you know, being in this town for so long. I'm always amazed at how dysfunctional some very famous people can be. You're just like, what the fuck is going on? But sometimes what drives them, that deep insecurity makes them really good at acting. They're fragile, fragile creatures.

It goes back to what we're talking about. Not gonna be a Navy SEAL, but you'll be a hell of an actor, you know? So, the amount of drugs, I went to my friend, well, he was my friend, I knew him through other people, so I'm not calm, but Ted Demi, who was a famous director, and he did the RAF, he did a lot of great movies, said he did Blow, remember Blow? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Teddy died of cocaine, he was doing blow all night and played, remember blow? Yeah, well, okay, really. And Teddy died of cocaine. He was doing blow all night and played, but was playing pickup basketball. I'm just died right on the court at 37 years old. And I went to the funeral and it was a, who's Johnny Depp spoke, everybody spoke. And man, oh man, I couldn't believe the amount of drugs and alcohol that they all had stories

about doing drugs and alcohol. That's all they did It was just I was like how they relate it on. That's how they they were in the band together Everybody did a lot of that stuff all the time. Wow That's a bummer stop Hey, I'm not saying oh Sinus Not this one. Sorry. We already did this we recovered it this one

Okay, oh wow this I don't I mean there's no words for it. In the middle of a selfie and look at like it's trooper, just getting the footage for us. It's a real content creator. Is this? Huh? Woo! Oh, she thought this would be a good time. She's having a look at her! I mean, between the trees of you. She's about to drown.

Is this a tsunami? Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. That's a flash flood. I don't think it's a tsunami. It's called a flash flood. She could have been drowned so easily. I think there's something there. That's a flash flood.

I think she's a child under like a long distance. Yeah. People dying flash floods all the fucking time. That's a flash flood. Oh, that's what she's talking about. People dying flash floods all the fucking time. That's probably not for doing selfies. Now I know you guys like crack a dial. Oh boy. Love them. It's music so I can't play it. Look at this guy.

Don't be a dummy. What's he high on? Yes. Oh, they do. Oh, it's on the Yeah, they have the strongest bite too You must be on drugs then no I mean first his hand then his leg dumbass Yeah, you know that's a small that's on the top of his knee cap. Yeah, that's kind of feel good I got I think I'll shake your knee right off

What do you think you do in that situation? You punch it? Apparently his leg was read more. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a croc, is it? It's an alligator. Yeah.

What's the difference? It's an alligator. Well, an alligator's gonna be wider. It prox and he's skinny. Yeah, and a croc. And I was way more aggressive. Come on, man. Wow.

Okay. You fuck with that Nile Croc. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. wider. Yeah, it's gonna be skinny. Yeah, and a crock. I was way more aggressive Come on, man. Wow Yeah, you you you fuck with that Nile crock. Oh good. You're food that games over there coming for you Then I'll get us doing that they're coming for you. You know, you're not scared of an alligator though

I mean I would fun to like this, but I'm way more scared of a saltwater crock. Yeah, saltwater crock wants you That's nothing to play with wants you. That's nothing to play with wants you There's that there's a video of that guy. He thought he was a shaman and He's an Indonesia and he was like my magic will protect me No, and he gets into that super murky water. It's great video and He's he's doing this on the water and he's swimming and he gets to the ladder and well, he gets pulled under You can see him under the water doing this looking down trying to get the the ladder and well he gets pulled under. You can see him under the water doing this looking down

trying to get the crock and then he disappears. And now why does he disappear? Then you see the crock swimming with like, it's an 18 foot crock with the guy's body is mounted. Oh my gosh. It is a day of work for the crock. Easy day of work man, it's like oh, dude, you got drowned right quick.

Now, probably went pretty quick, but that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. There's another special with the guys, the two cops are patrolling the river. They're in Indonesia. There's a fisherman.

His boat's here and he's in the water up to about here. And he's untangling his net. and the cop goes, he's brave. He's brave in Indonesian, right? And well, they came back and he disappeared. Oh, God. And they found him in the belly of a 16 foot. Yeah, crock, crock. That's what happens. Don't get in the water because you're food. Well, there's dinosaurs. They're dinosaurs.

What else you got, Jen? Oh, the other one's kind of sucked It's alright. That'll be so hard. You guys shark dive would you do that thing? Yeah, I'll do the great only great only great Well, I've done it only great white. He's never done great white. Yeah, black tape doesn't count I don't I don't understand why people want to do that. Oh, I would love to see a great white. They're magical. I love them I'm love did we play this last week We I don't think we did right? This is in San Diego. Yeah, I saw this okay, so I thought we saw this right I wonder if we saw it all this side or something But I'm gonna cruise so yeah, Dominic cops by language those zero confidence itself no hand to hand defense all That's a couple like runs right you like I just like you guys know other guy knows how to park

So he's teasing him right here. It's not working. Oh, he's right. It'll hell no Well, you were he's gonna bite you. Is he high on something? Of course I might have shot him I like it. He's like all right. I've had my fun on me back in my truck. He did take off But he did get him afterwards but they did get him afterwards. Shit, a fight. Oh, shit. Wow. A big thing that happened here is like a lot of it,

it became a race thing. A lot of people were saying like, imagine if he was black, he would be dead. Like that was like the majority of a bunch of the comments. I don't think that guy was gonna shoot that guy, no matter what the color of the top. Yeah, that guy was like, he realized that guy was just totally crazy.

Of course, people made it about raise. Yeah, because that cop was Latino or Asian. Was it white? Was it black? Nope. That's another point, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, but Dominic Cruz is right. That cop did not look like he was very cop. So I landed, so it's zero cop,

and he's self-know-hand to hand, self-defense, and all this towel accents happen. Other guy knows how to party. He's right. Yeah fucking Dominic we show him crazy nasty shit just with your wrist. I was like ah fuck What does he get in? I mean is this interesting at all? Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg what's he know that we don't this is what should make so alarm a hundred million dollar Compound Hawaii with like a big bunker. Yeah. What's he another we don't what do you get ready for now quick question. Did he buy some the same land where they had the fire conspiracy. Yeah complete with underground bunker with his own food energy energy. It's got a lot of guest houses and stuff. He's creating a commune.

I do it. House will be 30 bedroom, 30 bathroom. Yeah. That place can be lit. Yeah, I will. A group of 11 disc shaped tree houses joined together by rope bridges. Sounds awesome.

Sounds awesome. That's exactly how much spend my money. So fucking fun. It's like built in the mountain, like fucking the Mr. Evil, Austin Powers. That's pretty awesome. That's exactly how much spend my money. So fucking fun. It's like built in the mountain like fucking the Mr. Evil of Austin Powers. That's pretty awesome. That's sick. And bro, they'd have your gits and masks. Train? Nope. Nope. A little bit. The underground, the underground bunkers were. I know. If we have a ring, do some training. I just want the underground bunker. Not gonna fist bump them? Nope. Which is MMA training. I just want the underground bunker. Not gonna fist bump them?

Nope. Which is MMA training. Fuck. So this is something I saw after the fights last night. Neon is a streamer that's been on Bradley Martin's stream a whole bunch. He's a very nerdy looking kid. But apparently he said something that he was going to confront Donald Trump. So Dana White made sure that he got denied at the door.

Yeah, he didn't get in. Yeah. And he said he was an aunt for the area. He didn't know he specifically fight. He said he was a man for the area. No, what happened is he said some stupid shit on Instagram. And he bought tickets so he wasn't anywhere close. When you start saying stupid shit like that,

you're probably going to get busted up and thrown out of here, making threats and and talking dumb shit looking for a cloud. I believe he said it was good. I don't care what he said. I think he said he's gonna confront all the truck business. I don't care what he said. Did he? He was an able to. He's just fucking tall, too. You know that? Fucking punk. There's a popular streamer like It's Dana White's party

It's his white party That kid was gonna go you know confront Donald Trump so they may treat him get in but again the streamers They're all there, you know, so influence Yeah, whatever you can get clicks With these kids, too well we did it again, buddy. We did again, bud. We did it again We did it again. Did it again well we did it again, buddy. We did again, bud. We did it again. We did it again Did it again? We did it again Two down comes out this week. It's all on the Ford Lightning the problems I'm having with the Ford Lightning

It's a good one. I think we dropped the guy who's gonna. Yeah, that's the guy. Oh boy. Okay. Yep Good luck in the Donald Trump. Yeah, I'll see all This weekend off the comedy club in Naples come get some and then I got comedy zone Charlotte North. For New Year's? Yeah. New Year's December 29, 30 and 30. Two shows on New Year's.

Yeah. Yeah, it should be fun. Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday as well. Well, it's the 31st I'll ring in the New Year. All right, kids, I'm off the road till January 25th, Nashville, one night only, then two nights in Austin, Texas, January 26th, 27th. That's it, kids.

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