The Fighter & The Kid - Brendan Schaub Coming Out of Retirement… for a White House Brawl?! | TFATK Ep. 1119

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

Bryan Callen and Brendan Schaub discuss Brendan's willingness to come out of retirement to fight at the White House UFC card, the potential matchups that could take place there, the beef between Trump and Elon Musk, Elon Musk tweaking in the Oval Office, Bosty's first baseball game, current events around the world and much more! Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkO'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERTrue Classic - True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/fighter ! #trueclassicpod Magic Mind - https://magicmind.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This is developed by CDC. Yes, we did, because we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Well, the thing about the fighter and the kid, Brennan, is we just start. You know what I'm saying? No matter what our day is like, no matter the stress.

Bit of a shit sandwich right now. We show up. Some days you have a shit. Look, some days, some weeks, some months, and sometimes some years are shit shows. In the past five years? A lot of people go through stuff. You build something, you lose it all. Yeah.

Then you got to build it back. And part of like growing up is realizing that you don't give up on yourself. No. And you might, you might use to each other. You can't give up on each other. You can't give up on yourself. And you've got to just adjust your approach and figure it out. But it's not easy.

The waves are rock in the boat right now. And there's only- You don't see any land. There's no land. It's a three-man boat. Yeah. You had chin over there. Yep. It's pretty good on the sea.

well chin stays calm yeah he's nice and medicated i can't i don't have any medication for that but either way yeah it's uh yeah okay all right break here we go and we're back and we're back hey shout to all those uh supporting the first patreon that thing's going way better than we thought it's exciting yeah i thought you guys so if you're just if you missed last episode firing the kid brian and i and chin launched a patreon finally this for the hardcores you're getting every episode ad free plus you're getting two shows extra extended content and we can get pretty risky with that content we've been suppressed on youtube we've been shadow band all that stuff so we don't have to worry about what we say what clips we show so we get pretty loose on those patrons um and then twice

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freaking saturday at 4 p.m was at central time at 4 p.m ufc pors it's joseph rogan brian the kid calvin gordon gordon the king ryan and myself all on jr e so getting you the ufc get you some bosti had his first game last night how do you do bossy's the first uh given texas a slice of the shop fam as we're driving there i said boss do you ready us yes i said now you're you're going to introduce texas to the shop family there's a lot of pressure buddy yeah because i got it dad he's a little savage he's saying i got a dad so me and him always get to the field an hour early i do these warm-ups with tiger bossy's a little young but he he wants the same treatment tiger's gotten so i take him through all the warm-ups i did when i was playing football and fighting and he's five so we're going through

those same warm-ups and stuff which i didn't learn until i was in my 20s so i go through all the warm of all the mental stuff that i give him balls i give him soft pitches we go through the whole thing we're throwing balls and stuff and you know he's doing his thing and then uh he was up to bat second and uh the coach throws him pretty good fastball and just who just hit the shit out of it i'll send teaching it's worth a look you know it's funny it's worth a look when you were talking about like genetics in the park in the park home run wow you were talking about that when i was a kid i played football my best friend was a kid named darrell white and i played football now darrell was far and away better at football.

Now, Daryl's a black guy. He was, and his dad, his dad was a fullback for the Raiders. And I used to see his dad when we would drive his father, like you'd see his traps and head. Yeah, build different. And it would just look different. Yeah, there's, and as a kid, I was like, he just was a mountain.

Yeah. And, of course, his son was the same way. His son was, and I couldn't figure out why his son was that. I didn't understand that. I just figured I could be like that. Yeah. So Daryl would run through people and it would be impossible. Dad's in his ear. Dad's giving him the treatment.

He was just physically different than me. He could run back. And I was like, how come this isn't happening to me? Oh, come I can't run. Although I was able to throw the ball pretty far and catch the ball because we did it so much. Yeah. You're familiar with it. Yeah.

I've seen guys who are my age who don't know how to throw and catch a ball, which is actually incredible. Yeah, it is weird, right? even on bossy's team he's five playing with eight nine year olds there's eight nine year olds who have never swung a bat never thrown a ball i'm like oh well dude try hollywood i want to look at the dad and go what are you doing oh dude i it's such a disservice i worked with kids a lot right on seven seven on on goldbergs on school they're not throwing balls bro those child actors when they're 14 some of them have never done a pull up and i'm not kidding forget throwing a ball i had to teach a kid how to throw a

a ball. So many of them turn to trans. They're like, fuck it. It's so nuts. I literally had to teach his kid to throw and catch a ball. He was 14 and he had never done it. And I was like, how is this possible? I look at these dads.

Some dads are super busy. I get it was like, you can't spend five minutes on the weekends? Most of these kids didn't have a dad. Most these kids didn't have a dad. Yours didn't. These kids do. Yeah. Of course I don't say that.

Play this for Brian. Remember, he's five playing with eight, nine-year-old. Oh, my God. That's Bosty at bat. He's the smallest kid on the field. That's amazing. Boom. Overhand.

Get you, son. Overhand. Oh, yeah. Left field. So he, Apopo Taco left, pulled it left. Look at these, look at these, look at these. So he brought his buddy in, that's Big Mike.

Look how much older they are. Yeah, look how much bigger they'll get Boss come flying in. They try and throw them out. But he's like, nah, son. Oh, my. First at bat in Texas. Oh, my Lord. That's awesome.

Oh, my Lord. That's awesome. He's five? Five. And how old are those kids? Eight, nine. That's unbelievable. You know who else's kid is like that?

Tim Kennedy's kid. Oh, yeah. That kid is just... But Tim, he's older. Yeah, he's 11. He's older. But he's playing with like 14-year-olds. It's unbelievable.

Yeah, he's a little savage. Yeah, he's a little savage. That's dope, dude. That's so dope. Yeah. Nothing better. And then, you know, they do either earnings or time limit.

By the end of the game, they have my catcher. bossy never has attitude Tiger has an attitude Bossy does not he tell he's pissed and I go what's it was eight to nine I look at him and we go what's wrong with you goes I want to win I'm went oh And you know his mom's like no no Joe's

I want to win Joe's like no stay calm I'm like no this is good You show me a kid that wants to lose I'll show you a loser This kid got it was it Was it Peter Thiel or someone was playing chess with Kasparov

And Kasparov kept beating him And I think it was Peter Teal's like, he's like, ugh, and he freaked out. Oh, he slammed. Yeah, he left. And he came back and she's in. Casparov said, no, no, that's a pro. Oh, okay.

Peter Thiel's the guy who owns Palantir and Pape started PayPal. You know, he's not a professional tennis chess player. He's playing Casparov, greatest of all time. Casparov goes, you, yeah, you get pretty emotional there, Pete. Take it easy. And he goes, show me a guy who likes losing and I'll show you a loser. Yeah. It's like, Jesus, dude.

I mean, don't hear you have five. It's about fun, but you do want him to win. I don't subscribe to, as long as they're having fun, no, no, no, no. Losing's not fun. Yeah, if you don't win, it's not. You show me a kid who's like, yeah, at least I hit the ball. It's like, no, buddy, we play to win, pal. We want to have fun, you want to learn? That's important, but we're here to win, pal.

Yeah. We're not dedicating all this time and shit for you to lose by 10. That guy, I had dinner with him, and he is the smartest person I've personally ever met. Is he? And what I mean by that is that, like, everything I realized, I was. saying was because I had read something or heard it. Yeah. And I would put it all together.

And so people are like, you know, it was a point of view. And so was everybody at the table. And then this dude would say something. And I swear to God, it was a thought I had never thought of. He was coming up with original ideas. And I was like, and then. Not regurgitating ideas? No.

He was coming up with his own room. We were at his house. He's got this insane table outside. He's got billions of dollars, right? And then he's also a little bit autistic, I think, like a little bit. You don't even say a little bit. And it was great because we're all talking and finally he had had enough with all of us. And it was like a, you know, table of probably 10 people.

Was he like leave? And he goes, he goes, all right, everybody has to get out of here. Just like, get out of here. I'm done. It was just done. We all just said, oh, okay. That's that autism kicks in where there's no social cues where they're just like, all right, my time is done. See you.

He's busy. He's too busy for us. Yeah, but also be cool. Yeah. He's not learning anything for us. We're learning. Dude, him and Elon were the power behind PayPal. Jesus Christ.

Yeah. Look at Elon's hair. I can't believe that, that, that, that, those are two bulls in a China shop, like two look at those. Turbo nerds with big brains. Turbo nerds. Big brains. Turbo nerds.

Yeah. But killers. Killers. Killers. Look at Elon. Yeah, look at those two. He got himself a little. Just, but, but billionaires now.

Yeah. He got himself. A little hair done. Yeah. You really stepped his game up. He looked up. He stepped his guy. Now, he's gone quiet.

Like, the whole Trump thing, he was on in the news every single day. He's on Twitter. every single day. And it's kind of, because I think you got to, like, listen, you're the richest man on earth. Like, there's a lot of power that comes with that. But you're not the president in the United States. There's a different sort of power. Did you hear what Trump said? No, what do you say? I thought they were cool. Are they still not cool? Well, you know what he tweeted, right? About Trump. Oh, yeah, being on the Epstein list. And then he apologized, though, like the next day. Yeah, well, Trump said, Trump said, I don't know. You know, I mean, he's very upset.

But maybe we turn Doge on him, you know? I mean, he's gotten a lot of subsidies, and he was very upset about the EV mandates. And he took away those mandates. So maybe, maybe we got to look at, maybe we're going to look into him. And he goes, and he goes, you know, believe me, he doesn't want to play this game with me. No, no. You hear him say that? He goes, he doesn't want to play this game with me.

I was like, oh, dude, this is gangster shit. No, no, no. Excuse me? Oh, you have all the money in the world? That's very cool. There's a difference here. Yeah, he learned the hard way. And I think that.

He kind of chilled out. Yeah, I've heard from, like, I believe that Elon probably had an outburst because he was really mad at the big, beautiful bill. Yeah, well, the EV mandates. The company. Yeah, all those mandates are bullshit anyways. Yeah. And the EV mandate, you know, there's a lot of stuff in there, but, um. But he's kind of, he's gotten radio silent.

Yeah. Can he was tweeting how many times a day? Yeah. How many times? You don't want, you don't want to risk the ire of a president who has the entire Republican Party and the major. and the majority in the House and Senate and in the executive and in the Supreme Court, you don't want

then, you don't want that guy who has that much sway to say, you know what, let's look into Tesla. Let's just point our telescope over here. Let's break that apart and see what happens. And let's rethink those government contracts. Yes.

Because SpaceX has a huge contract. Huge contracts. Because Boeing wasn't getting the job done. Now we need SpaceX. Yeah. Because they're doing such a great job. And Starlink and all that. It can cause some problems.

He's like, I'm going to lay low for a little bit. Yeah, dude, just be the rich guy. Don't be the famous rich. It could cost you, like, in many ways, a couple billion dollars, you know. Oh, in hours. All they do is click. Yeah. We're going to go with this person.

And then we're going to look into you. There's, there's, yeah. You don't want to play that game. No, no, no. Trump has that. He does have that sort of mafia mentality sometimes. It's a New York thing? Yeah, you don't want to.

No, Elon's used to having the biggest stick in the room until you walk into that room. Until you, well, Trump likes to fight. And he has a hammer. He's a big old cop. Yeah. That guy will fight you. Like, it's his, it's his instinct to attack. It's in his nature.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was weird. Them boys got into it. Well, it was almost inevitable in a way. That's what everyone said. How long is this going to last this honeymoon? He was on stage with Trump.

I think he was also doing a lot of ketamine. I think Elon was doing. some psychedelics. Going out some K-holes. Yeah. Have you ever seen him? You ever see him like doing weird shit

when he's in the Oval Office? Just a Nazi salute. Jim, bring up Elon Musk on ketamine in the Oval Office. I don't want to spread any rumors, but I think he kind of admitted that he was doing ketamine. Have you ever done ketamine?

I've not. Have you? Yeah. Really? I've done, I was doing for a while, you know, when I was in my... What does it do to your asshole?

Was it opening your shitter? Yeah, I never explored the asshole side of it, but I did go into a K-hole, and I've never done it again. Really? Yeah. What'd you think? It was awful. I didn't see any benefits from it. Really?

Nothing. Oval Office? Are you anything specific? Elon, in Oval Office tweaking. Tweaking? Yeah. See how that goes. But let's take a little break here, dude, because this episode of the Fire and Kid is brought to you by my fave.

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go ahead, punch me in the face, and he did. Turns out, even a five-year-old punching you in the face, actually. That was X I did? X could do it. If you knew X... I saw his mom right now.

But I didn't feel much of the time, and I guess it bruises up. I was just forcing around with the little X. He let his five more points in the face. Watch, watch this, watch this, watch this. It's a very sad case. It's a case we win. You can't want to say case.

Because we have the right to make grants. We're not going to make any grants like that. But I don't think Harvard's been acting very nicely. I think Columbia wants to get to the bottom of the problem. Jeez. It's a little weird, dude. What's going on with his eye? Yeah, that's all that happens is every.

Well, you have the black, he just explained. He has the black guy from his son punching. face you let it come on here you let his five-year-old punch in the face that's how you know he's never been in a fight yeah he thought a five-year punch him in the face and nothing would happen it's it's it's kicking in look at ketamine shit yeah he's in a k-hole right now in the oval office look at him wow strange looking bird yeah but by the way is probably absorbing everything and he doesn't miss a thing no no I'm a huge family

I'm a huge Elon Musk fan. Yeah, he has his flaws. Sure, everybody does. He's laid low, though. Like, he hasn't been on Rogan a hot second either. Like, how would you just shut your mouth for a little bit? Yeah, I think. The whole Doge thing, like him getting it, all of it was kind of weird.

I've never really understood the need, when you're already, you've already won for the need to be in the public eye. I just think it's nothing but a liability. I agree. Get the fuck out. Yeah. Just be the super rich dude. Nobody knows. That's the goal.

That's the game. That's the game. Have make that. money make your money and with him it's not about money like that that goal's done you're done he keeps on keeping on yeah now there's positives that like thank god he bought x and made it freedom speech and stuff like that and saved a lot of things but there's a lot of downside too yeah yeah hey chin is there any update on raja uh rampage jackson not because i know did he post something yet because we haven't heard from him at all. From Raja? I didn't see anything from Raja. He didn't post anything. I know

Rampage just talked about it a lot more. I think his lawyer has probably said, shut your mouth. Nothing has to come. Now, I've had two lawyers reach out and tell me that the state can't press charges in this situation. And I've had another one, like, they definitely can. So I don't know what. I'm not, guys, this might surprise you. I'm not a lawyer. Yeah. I think this is just that one wrestler that's on every other program talking about, you know, how I stopped Roger from attacking. Yeah, he's saying that he's going to be sued. Yeah. But that's just speculation.

This will be something he looks back on and regrets. It's the biggest mistake of his life. So Doug the Epic Malo. Yeah. Has been talking to LAPD detectives and please it's just a matter of time before Jackson's arrested for the brutal assault. If they're going to do it, what's taking us on? Trying to build the case? Yeah.

What more information do you need? We've seen everything. There's no doubt my mind. So what they do is they talk to people. I'm going to go on a limb here. Me and Doug the Epic are not lawyers. but but there's no doubt my mind that jackson will be arrested everything's on the tape and video that's what i'm saying it's premeditated yep l8 tends to drag their feet

the detective asked me a bunch of questions i even asked about uh implications just because you're involved and whatnot he goes there's nothing to worry about you're just trying to get compliance everything was towards raja detective i talked to outside the case i just asked them about formalities what should i look at what not to look at he was saying this is just how the lAPD works they drag their feet they're building their case right now they get they get all their evidence the stay is going to pick it up because there's so many people so many witnesses yeah they they come to the DA with with their their case keep going down to what they do is they they interview people who are talking to him online they interview they look at all that evidence they look at

everything interesting it's not good and premeditation and it takes this long though yeah because what they're going to look at is how much he's talking beforehand it's all about what was going on beforehand what what happened beforehand was it an act of rage or was it a premeditated thing which is this if he said oh i'm gonna get him or i you're a bitch but that that's premeditated that's a huge problem huge difference so yeah yeah uh if you rampage jackson advice for your son go on the land in mexico nope advice for your son is you have to take ownership you have to take ownership and you have to do the time. You've got to pay the penalty and go through the fire. The only way out of this is through. You have to go through the fire and take all the pain

and then come out of it a better person. Sometimes that's all you got. And sometimes, believe it or not, believe it or not, when you go through this insanity, you come out a better person and it saves your fucking soul. I'm being serious about that. You know, it just is. So this is a Harvard lawyer and pro wrestler. Oh, this is interesting, Chin. So this is 25 minutes long. I can kind of break it down in a nutshell. He says it's not going to be, you know, people are saying attempted murder. Yeah. He's saying that, no, that's likely not going to be the case. I'll play a little bit. I don't think attempted murder is likely. That's what a lot of people were saying. However, a lot of people are not licensed lawyers and professional wrestlers. I think that would be incredibly hard to prove

that he had the intent to kill, thank God, psychos two did not die. Otherwise, there could have been a manslaughter charge potentially. But I think more likely is battery. I think this is clearly a battery with serious bodily harm, which can be a felony. But another thing that's interesting is I actually think this is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Let's not forget. Raja is an MMA fighter. And if you're an MMA fighter, that requires you to have a license, just like a boxer, where your hands and feet are considered deadly weapons.

And so the moment that Psycho Stu was knocked unconscious and Raja was just raining down blows upon him, that's assault with a deadly weapon, hands down. Now, on to the civil liabilities, there's a litany of them. there's so many torts here not just you know personally for raja but it gets into the promotion and anybody involved there also could be some criminal culpability for an accessory or there are other people that guy i don't know about a conspiracy maybe that's interesting the one guy was like you can get your get back um to the people who encouraged him yes that's all and all that's that's that's that's trouble for them too i expect and they can get sued yeah but remember if all those wrestlers work together and they're friends with stew and they go hey man

we're going to be on the hook too because we allowed him we encouraged him to get his get back don't press charges because he's going to press charge against us so it's a lose lose for everyone but the get back so a jury would look at that a lawyer doesn't want to deal with that because the jury would be like get back is you know is is is in professional wrestling speak it didn't mean kill him exactly and try and but then if you're roger you're going well i'm not from their world no one you can take that case on no one informed me go get back means you do what you do yeah but a lawyer i'm a professional fighter a lawyer's going to go this ain't going to fly with the jury jury's going to look at that and go maybe unless you got a badass lawyer which you know

i'm sure they're going to get someone nobody wants to go to trial with this they want to plead out of course well they know the jury's going to be like but they want money that's what it is also he's going to it's not like psychos i'm sure psychostos, I'm like, man, I really want this guy to learn a lesson because, you know, it's some 45, because he doesn't know, he's a psycho stew's team and lawyers are going, we want money. Yeah, there are two things that's going to happen. One, they're going to say, do you want to go to trial on this or do you want to plea out? Yeah.

Because this is what we'll give you. And his lawyers go, this is probably what you're going to get anyway, blah, blah, blah. And then they're going to come in and say, do you want to go to trial, do you want to go through this discovery, or do you want to pay us what we're owed? And then there's going to be a negotiation from there. but either way it's going to suck but and then also the the state wants you to take the plea

because they don't want to spend taxpayers money and go through trial so whenever you decide not to take the plea they go okay unless a district attorney and a prosecutor thinks they can win this case hands down and get their charges now you're in

trouble because remember when you are convicted in a criminal court for what you've done the problem is then it's very easy to sue you because with the criminal court it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt we have video so it's beyond a reasonable doubt civil you don't need that you don't need that standard so with civil you're really in trouble so it's not just the jail time that you'll do in which might be five years might be four years whatever it's the amount of money you're going to have to be paying now you're also talking about 25 year old with not a lot of money and then yes and rampage will probably be like you know but then they put a lean eye and you make for the rest of your life yeah so here's the thing there's be no solution that any of this for a very long time unless they just pay him he's got to face the music and put it all to bed now like he's got a i don't think he can yeah i don't think he can yeah unless they were to come to some sort of a financial agreement that's the fastest way to get solve this yeah

because trial you're looking at years dude years years they move so slow yeah now speaking of people and some issues with the law. Did you see what happened with John Jones? I did. I did. Interesting. They couldn't prove you. It was there?

Yeah, well, his phone was at home. So maybe he was at home. So he's like, I wasn't even there. They catch you with your Google search history and stuff like that. They have your phone pings all the time.

Well, yeah, but that's not a Google search, but they can look into it. Well, so what I mean, not Google search, what I mean is a lot of you track you. They leave their windows open.

Correct. But with John, and to his point, too, he's like, listen, I know with my history, people see this stuff and it automatically assume, but I was never there. Yeah. Good.

I'm glad. You put, this is, oh, do you want to see the statement or that? This is from his lawyer. We've been fully vindicated from the very beginning. We explained that the win made a false allegation against John, an effort to avoid being arrested for DWI. Unfortunately, yeah, so what happens to her? Nothing.

The police accepted that claim without properly weighing the facts. But didn't John threaten the- That's why people are giving him shit about this. So I'll show you John's statement after this one. But once the relevant documents were finally disclosed by the police department, John's cell phone records made it undeniably clear that he was nowhere near the scene of the crash. Yeah, but he did talk to them. Yeah, but if somebody's making these claims, you know, you're allowed to call up and be like,

fuck you pretty much, you know. So. But this is what John said. So John said, I want to be in by thanking the district attorney's office. carefully reviewing the facts and ultimately. I've always believed the importance of truth and fairness. I'm great, blah, blah, blah. Simple fact, I was never there. I never even left my house that night and all the evidence proved that. Yeah, so there's no case against him, right? Even if he talked to him on the phone, he wasn't there. In this case, there was a rushed to judgment before any real

evidence was gathered. I understand that. In the court of public opinion, the allegations may have seem believable, especially given my past mistakes, that's fair. But by the time these claims were made public, I had just retired from competition, and that moment was stolen from me by someone who made false accusations avoided DWI. Wow. Well, there you know.

They not only disrupted my retirement, but they also made our police department apparent... Negligent in the process. It deeply troubling in today's world, a single false accusation can take so much away from someone before any evidence is even considered, of course. Yeah, but to be fair to the public opinion,

it's like, buddy, but... Yeah, there's a pattern Yeah. But, but it's true that, you know, another example of somebody just accuses you of something and then you, you get a statement. They get a story. And by the time, you know, it's all, it's all a nightmare. So he was just never there, but he was familiar with her. Like she came from his house and then she probably got out of a wreck and was like, yeah, John was driving. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. So he is, he was retired. Now he's back, right? He's in the testing pool. But Dana was like, there's a one in, What do he say? Billion? A chance that he fights on the White House card. But maybe this helps. Well, that was because of what he was going through, right? Yeah. Now that he's been exonerated.

Oh, what's up? And he was like, I'm John Jones. I am a one in a billion person on Earth, too. Yeah, he's like, I'll take those odds. I'm one in a billion. Damn. Did I scare you, John? Yeah, whenever he posts, there's, you know, people say he's ducking and all that shit.

Yeah. It's the world we live in. Aspen all scary. Yes, he is. John versus Asim on the White House card would be crazy. they'll be the biggest ever fight it has to be right the white house two of the best guys on the planet i mean and the white house like the most watch yeah yeah but remember it's gonna be on cbs that too it's not pay-per-view but it's still network tv some more people i think the most watch

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Yeah my buddy Jean-Paul Le Boznyani who is No no Le Bozniani's son and he was ready to be a wrestler Jiu-Jitsu guy But

Oh and he went by knockout Yeah Yeah I saw him Yeah that was cool And when Dana was When Dana was telling him How good he did He didn't know

He's him He's all wait what When he calls his name He's like what He's such a good dude He's so funny He's one of us Like that kid

Like he's he loves to fuck around How do you know his dad? I was taking Jjitsu From his dad's a great teacher And just a great guy We're trained with a hoist. But that's cool. This is the most watch

MMA fight in the United States was Kimbo Slice James Thompson, which Kimbo won. Drawing 7.281 million viewers. I don't know if it beats that, Jen. Seven points. Times are different. There's a lot.

Let's say it's on a Saturday and competing with college football. Say you got, I don't know, FSU Clemson on that weekend. Who knows? Oh, but it's not going to be around football because it's going to be next July.

so there's nothing going on maybe 7.7 million's a lot that's huge but they do a big event I don't know you got Trump involved too you got the White House and maybe it does

you think it'll be the most watched ever I would in 2025 I'll be glued to my TV I mean I think most people well and all the marketing and you have CBS faculty I think about it and then my heart starts racing Like, I'm like, Jesus.

Dude, I'll come out retirement if they offer me if I'm like that. Not BKFC, not whatever. If they ask me, I'd fight you whoever they want to get in the White House. Just to get to the White House. Just to do it. So imagine you're one of these other guys who are current and relevant. Now, Brendan Shaw, but 42. I'd do it.

Heavyweight, which there have been 42-year-old heavyweights. Andreel O'Loski, a lot of guys. Randy Coutor? Yeah, Randy's a world champion. Yeah. Yeah, I could do it. Imagine you get out there. Just don't test me.

You get out there with whoever it is and you just get a dars and you just hold on to it. And I'm like, do, squeeze it. I'm in your corner. I'm like, squeeze it. And I'm like, run over, trap the leg. I don't even know what kind of celebration you do at the White House. For sure, you got to have the flag. You just-trap yourself in the flag.

Yeah. I mean, that's happening, isn't it? Oh, with me? No. No, I'm saying. Oh, every fighter is from America's come out with a flag. Yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying. But you got to do something different.

The White House is having a final line. Oh, no, it's 100% confirmed now. Can you imagine? No, I can. It's confirmed. Dana confirmed it last week. Yeah, at least Dana says it confirmed it, but yeah. I'm going to talk to my friend Joe Rogan.

Joe, any seats? Well, let's see how good of a friend he is. I mean, that's a tough one. Let's bring it up on companion. Joe, we need two tickets in the White House. He's like, oh, well, Cam Haynes and fucking... Let's just put the... Elon asked for my only two tickets.

Because you have to get vetted, too. You think they let you have to. I've been to the White House. I've been vetted, so of you. We both got vetted. Oh, that's true. Yeah. We'll be all right.

We did go on a tour of the White House. Yeah. That was cool. Smaller than you think. Maybe you can say how to Dana. That'd be cool. Yeah. Me and him were cool.

Yeah, I don't think Joe's can give us those tickets. Let's bring it up on companion. Well, let's put full core press. We looked at our schedule. We're actually open July 4th, 2026. Uh-huh. He'll go. No, he's, he'll surprise you.

He might be like, yeah, sure. Your first one's that ass? Love it. Here's just a silly question. Like, if they offered you, because Travis Brown hasn't been training or are fighting at least since, you know, but if the rematch was at the White House with him,

because you've been actually, like, working out. Two guys who haven't fought in 10 years. Yeah. I would do it. Not right. I would do it. Heavy weights are always exciting. Oh, yeah.

Heavy weights are always exciting. Who do you think is going to be on that? Card. It's going to be some big name. I think it's going to be Connor or John. It's one of those two, I think so. You think Connor McGregor? Yep.

It's one of those two. Wow. And who would you like to see Connor fight? I would probably put my money more on John, especially him getting vindicated on this. Who would you put you in? I think they would do, I think they'd do all out. I think they're going to throw caution in the win, get, you know, our taxes are paying for the lineup. So I think you could see John, um, Francis.

I think you're going to get something crazy. john francis john not john alex bierre john uh aspinall you see something like that wow or you get connor you know Nate some they're gonna do something matt like out out of left field Connor's got to fight somebody legacy not not one of these young killer no no no it has to be like chanler chanellers around that card he's as american as they get and he wants to he loves trump i assume chanler so you do connor chanler connor nate Connor patty pimmel Conner Patty Pimlet Oh my God

That would be insane I don't feel good for Connor there Well I think about this So you want it's America's day right It's July 4th So much bigger Yeah that's whatever but it's so it's July 4th Tom Assanall is going to be favored to beat John

And Patty would be favorite to beat Connor And Connor's not American but still So you're just going to have the English like you got to kind of make the matchup USA friendly. Oh, I bet you, I could guarantee you're getting Kayla Harrison and Amanda Nunes on that. That would be, that I'm looking for it.

Because you, Kayla is the only American champ. It depends. Kayla having to suck that weight. Are they going to fight at 45? There's no way to do 35. 35's insane for Kayla. Well, no, she didn't. They didn't say, but either way,

you're getting Kayla on that card. I mean, I think Amanda Nunez and Kayla 45 should be what it is. Yeah, me too. Nunez is, I don't know if her has to do it. I think it's probably both their last fight, so fuck you do it at 55. Who gives this shit? I agree. I agree. I agree.

Don't suck the way. I'd rather see them healthy and just, you know, feeling good. I think you put McKenzie Dern on there just for our viewing pleasures. Yeah. And she might be champ by then. You got Bo Nickel, of course. He's Mr. All-American. You got Chandler.

Bo-Nichael? It doesn't matter. You got Bo-Nickle on there. Is Bo-Nichle? right now you probably have colby coventon on there you think yeah he's a trumpy do you think uh comsot's probably not gonna be on that card just gonna warn you probably not gonna be there no no no no um do you think that uh yeah mazvida all right for sure because he's a trump or hey's awesome moseville be there he's not fighting no um who else could you get

uh uh-uh-uh-uh because you got to think american there's no american champions um out a pound for pound sugar shan he's american shit core of santa hagan yeah well we got to see what happens with mara aljo i went on there ortega keep going down but i feel like isn't it isn't it it the kind of a Sean Brady American as fuck Max Hollowe American as fuck See you did They're gonna go

American as fuck Yeah A lot of Americans There's not a lot of Americans Buddy I'm just saying on that car No I know that's what I'm saying Wouldn't you just have champion

versus champion Wouldn't you have super fights You know like Well you're gonna get That's why Connors come back John come back Those are all super fights if they want You make those

In the big big time fights Which I asked Brian Um Because me and Brendan have different opinions. So Kayla Harrison versus Amanda Nunes, or are you more excited for Zhevchenko Wenzhenko? Yeah, Zangweili. What is

Zeng Wai Li thing? I like the Shevchenko-Zang Wai Li thing because Wai Li likes to stand and bang. Yeah. And I don't think she has Shafshanko's wrestling. I think Shishankan got the job done. Wrestling, though. Yeah. Which means it's a boring fight. Yeah. I mean, Shershanko is

but Shishanko can give as good as she gets with striking. She's also an amazing striker that her moitai's crazy good but she's also really good at closing distance and then grabbing you around the body and you just you know and they're both super fun to watch fighting but you know Kayla's also a wrestler yeah Amanda yeah man that's that's Zhang Wili so bad so badass um what do you think on that fight that shifshanko Zhang Wili she can't deal with she's a boring fight I think it's a shanker just tries to grappler and just gets her on the ground I wouldn't put them on the I mean they're not going to that's that mess square

garden yeah they very announced it yeah yeah i i'd prefer to uh kail harrison amanda nunes um me too my my skill level waylay and chepchenko's a much better fight my thing with uh with amanda nunez is that she's she's been out of the game mentally and physically she's just out of the game yeah but she's the best ever do it she's a knockout artist she's not gonna if she wins you know it's can be by knockout yeah so you have two polar opposites ones can only wrestle one can only strike put them in there Amanda is is a black belt in jiu jitsu though right sure huh you think she's fucking pulling some savage submission off her back not not against Kayla no so so but

Kayla's got that judo uh the question is can can Amanda stop the takedown she has a brown belt judo Amanda yeah but it doesn't matter if she had a brown dog against the best

judo on the planet you don't want to get in that tripping game you want to make sure you don't let

her do anything Kayla get her down it's just can she get in there close without getting fucking socked in the face

Amanda hits so hard yeah she hits her but Amanda's probably never been grabbed by

somebody like although Amanda well they've trained together she trained together oh they did

yeah top team that's right that's right that's right I think do you have any

inside scoop on that You do. Word on the street is Caleb Ragdolter. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Kayla Ragdell. But can't you do it for 25 minutes and I get clipped?

Hmm. We're talking about practice. Talk about practice. But. Yeah. What would be, if you can make one matchup on that card, Chin, for the White House card, what is it? Yeah, I give you one matchup. Dana goes, Jan, what's happened?

Love firing the kid. Subscribe to page. John. I'm going to send some fan questions over two for Brendan this month, but real quick I'm going to give you one matchup whatever you want, buddy, we'll get it done. Obviously Tom Aspinall, John Jones.

You'd rather have Tom John than Connor Chandler? Yeah, 100%. Now, would you rather have John Asperol than John Francis? Fuck, that's a really tough one. I'd say just barely Francis because then the linear champ. He's a real champ. He's a real heavyweight champ.

Yeah, he's understeed world champion. That would determine who's actually the real. So John Jones, Francis Nangano is not as interesting. Franzingano is such a threat, but John Jones's wrestling is just too good for Francis. No, I'm with you, by him. And John Jones gets Francis on the ground, hard to do. But he gets him on the ground. I think that's what you see.

And I think Francis gases. I think at the end of the day, John dominates with wrestling. So what you'd see is probably some version of a ground and pound, something like that. What do you think? I don't know. John at Heavyweight, we don't have a lot to look at. He hasn't looked great. He looks a little out of shape. He's slower

against Francis, man. You get hit with those fucking nukes. It dropped Tyson Fury. Yeah, I'd like to see John Francis. And the hype on that would be insane. The goat versus the on-dispete heavyweight champion of the world coming back to the UFC. That's the move. I'm with Brither. I think it'd be more fun,

Tom Aspinall, John Jones. But as far as, like, to determine true, who is the actual heavyweight champ that would make that would give you the answer John and Francis and then whoever wins yeah you can go wrong he's more well-rounded fighter

he's young big just as big young faster or as fast I mean on the ground I think I think I think our boy I think he's a bigger threat than Angano I think I think Asmos is a bigger threat yeah 100% he's way big of a problem his jihitsu's great he's

his striking is great he's bigger than John and at that way but again his jiu-jitsu on top there big guys unless you ever do him don't really have a great guard and I know Tom's a black belt but it is a British black belt

so it's a different thing and if the house Tom off his back we have no fucking clue and he's gonna be on his back correct maybe yeah who knows I'm not sold on John at heavyweight but John Jones he always finds a way to win but he does

it's an intriguing fucking fight I'd love to see him fight Tom they're both fun yeah yeah all right what else John trains with large men right yeah but so is Tom changed with monsters yeah so I have this box of magic mind box of gold yeah and you could sell that dude uh first spanks of magic fast acting ingredients like cordyceps mushrooms althianine rodeola and some other stuff that's supposed to be really good transformation is brewing you're feeling the the deeper shift you feel a deeper shift you feel a deeper shift what's the first thing you did when i got in here you handed me some magic mine i said let's drink it on air to show people that we actually really take it yeah give me one i know

there's actually a box we have a couple more left there we go through this stuff but are those are those ones cold i like it cold i do too i like those cold no oh man i'm not just yeah i know we've got these two though they're awesome and once you start taking it you'll see what i mean especially the max time release caffeine stay sharp and confident and in control and it's got a smooth sustained power of focused calm energy you don't feel jittery

which I love and I'm just going to put these boxes right here we got a bunch of boxes under the number one's shot sold right now because people are obsessed with it that's all the craze all righty let's go here

here you guys are you guys obviously remember luigi manglione whatever mangione yeah shot that ceo of american health care or something um anyways so sheen which is a very popular you know brand it's like a cheaper brand they had this picture that apparently it's just someone that looks like him but it's it's obviously him that's clearly yeah so now they're doing an internal investigation as to how this happened so that guy luigi is modeling a shirt and that shirt is It's called it AI. Is it AI or did he do it before he did the crime? No, no, this is Sheen just doing it on their website.

Yeah, this is AI because they clearly own some money too. He's a folk hero because he assassinated an insurance CEO, a father of two. So that must feel really good for those kids. Yeah, don't go killing people. Weird. I've never heard of Sheen, but not, but no, never. I think it's bad taste, man. I think it's bad taste.

you're you're getting a murderer someone messed up for sure and he's he murdered a father in cold blood shot him in the back it's not the way you do things even if people hate uh insurance companies yeah you don't murder people you see this influencer esmeralda ferrera she found dead with her family her two kids and her husband and it wrapped in plastic in a back of a truck the cartels to executed her the whole family the whole family the whole whole family, seven-year-old and 13-year-old, two daughters. What? These motherfuckers, these, they did the Halisco, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, bodies wrapped in plastic were discovered inside a truck, part in, because, because they think the husband was involved in tomato farming and another business and, and, and, and, and he had, uh, you know, they, it was like, it, it wasn't ties to organized crime, but they wanted his route or something, and they killed him and his whole family, or he probably said no to something. How horrible is that? to me like when i was listening 15 and 7 year olds because they do that and you know with me for me like

me Mexico's getting more and more fed up with this shit they shoot a woman in like on live streaming for me if i'm the president or i'm these left-wing presidents like shine bomb are not willing to do this but ed calderon was saying you got to treat this like it's an insurgency you have to treat it like it's a civil war like they did like this is a terrorist organization trying to overthrow your country and you have to get the only thing people like this understand i'm sorry is total total violence and war yeah but that guy and rogan also said he goes i know trump and them they're going to do something he goes and they're aware of it this is for the mexicans to do yeah but yeah exactly but he was saying like you know we in americans he's like americans he's like

americans just don't understand how mexico works like we think oh just take out the cartel and you're good he's like but trump doesn't understand mexico no because they've they've adapted they've grown their business. So now they're in the police. They're in the government. And Mexicans are proud people. You don't want American boots there because what will happen is you'll create, you'll turn the cartels into freedom fighters. That's what you're saying. Look, the Mexicans, the Mexicans, the Mexicans, I think it's, I think there's no going back. Yeah. It's just what it is. The Mexican Marines and their military is perfectly capable of raining havoc if they're not. If you listen to them, even those Mexican Marines, like a lot of them

are involved with the cartel. All of them are compromised. And then you got to figure out of They're in the government now. But there's always a way. You can't have this. You can't have this. It's like, what are we doing here, man? You're killing children, dude. You're killing whole families.

For me, I'd be like, this is the last straw. And this is not happening. But this has happened every day multiple times. You only find out about this because she was a famous influencer. I know. But like, let's go. You know, let's go. I don't know what you do.

Let's figure out what you do. I don't know you do. You treat it like an insurgency. You literally have the military. There are great. people in the military who are not corrupt in a police force who are willing to do this but every so when they treated it like an insurgency they put a huge dent in it when you had shine mom and that guy amalo saying hugs not bullets yeah see how that does yeah didn't go well what else you got

jen let's see here oh so cardi b was making is making news because of how she was on trial by the way her trial is uh she won basically she's so funny they tried suing her for so what they tried 23 or 24 million for what spitting in this girl's yeah yeah like assault meanwhile you know she was she's such a character graham green is dead i worked with him which one graham green uh from dances with wolves let's stay on this then we go love yeah what happened was i haven't seen the jury fell in love with her she was just funny man you were like she got famous off love and hip hop she was such a star on Yeah. You're like, oh, I got to see more.

You're dealing with charisma for days, and she's way smart on the shillots on. That's a whole act, but the, uh, the, she's, she's got a great sense of humor and the jury was laughing and my buddy Brad Cohen has this, it's called the dirty gavel, I think, and he was like, he basically was on there going, hey, I told you, if the jury's laughing, she's getting off. Watch this. Hold on, let me refresh. So funny.

She's so cute, too. She's cute, yeah. And she's good at her in? Absolutely. We have eyes? I mean, look, I was a hundred and thirty pounds at that time. So she's overweight, right? In your opinion?

Just a little. Can you call her fire? No. I was called, and she was like, oh, she was, oh, yes. Are you disabled? Yes or no. At that woman, when you're pregnant, I'm very disabled. And why were you going to sound?

Because I'm pregnant. Girl's about to beat my ass. Hello. Hello. But I didn't, but I didn't because I had a baby inside me, you know? Three months. Three to four months. Fair enough?

She wanted to say to what? I don't want you to tell it to her face what you said on that day so she can hear it for herself. Security heavy. What a security doesn't mean? Like, she just looks a little, like he could pretend the best. You know what I'm saying? She's a little more The brother

She said she's bigger She's so funny, man Yeah Yeah Well, she got off It was all the bullshit Yeah Still a pain in the ass

She's a character, man Jurors can do anything Well, she's out to pay For her lawyers Yeah, it's a nightmare Yeah, it costs a lot of money Okay there's some more Epstein stuff that's popping up they'll find

let me play this clip for you oh includes the missing minute man this thing this website sucks yeah so there's a minute that was missing out of that whole chunk of okay footage that was released the missing minute yeah it's very it's not much but there's no one going into a cell but that still won't be enough let me see if I can fast for it just a little it's very lame and also who released but with the conspiracy guys I'm kind of with it, like, who released this? How do we know it's the actual minute video? There, look at that. Who's that?

That's weird. It shows the security guard pacing near the desk downstairs for a while. That is interesting. Why would it be removed? So security guard. They found it. What happened? Right? Yeah, what were they trying to hide? And then now, like, was it doctored? What's going on?

Data Dump is an additional two hours of footage from outside. I've seen jail on the night that he died. It includes a minute of footage where the, that was mysteriously excluded from the 11 hour video released in July but there's really nothing to that video other than the guy pacing

do you go to look at it yeah go up chin more so they have seen files show naked Jisleine Maxwell and pigs of powerful people still nothing yeah let me see her she was a real haughty toddy

she was hotty toddy man it's weird to chill with your vaj out on the beach though like even my weiner on the beach you did that in meconos or they're nude parts yeah you still don't want to what is this that's the footage of just lane

oh no that's I know that picture no that's in the famous picture I know this is just videos in his house yeah this is like first of all if I went to his island I saw these pictures of what the fuck is going on here there's just butt naked just chilling

I mean, God bless, nice body. She's attractive for a monster. Oh, that's her too, huh? All right. So they're everywhere. Wow. She was in... Oh, that's just her butt naked everywhere?

I don't think so. I think these are Bruce Weber photographs because I've seen that before. That's a Bruce Weber photo, man. Is that that gay guy? Yeah. Because that's kind of what my fucking bathroom looks like, so I'm just wondering.

Explain to me why... Houd Barak, the prime minister of Israel, was caught sneaking into his house with a disguise. Have you seen those pictures? Why don't you bring up, bring up a hood Barak? It's going to be hard to spell that name. How do you do it? E-H-U-D-B-A-R-A-K-K. Now, this is a matter of fact.

This is not conjecture. You're sneaking into his house? This is the prime minister of Israel, a former member of Serietta-Mets-Met-Mach. You know what that is? That's like the S-A-S-D-E-E-E-S-D-E-E-Gaz-E-E-Gaz in the planet. That guess who else was in the same? unit, Bibi Netanyahu, okay, who's the current president. So you're talking about a guy at the highest echelon of Israel, the highest echelon of intelligence and everything, okay?

Ehud Barak met with Jeffrey Epstein, dozen signs, flew on private plane. It was more than just getting laid, I promise you. There was something else going on here. Where did his money come from? Why did Leslie Wexler give him power of eternity? He was one of the richest men in the world, and without question he let Jeffrey Epstein at 28 or whatever run his whole company and he had power of attorney.

Yeah, Woody Allen was with him too? That's what it says. Yeah. But that was more because they were all kind of like it was before anybody knew he was. But you got to see the, there's a picture of Ehudu Barak

getting and coming into his house. He said sneaking into his house. Yes, in disguise. Just put Ehud Barak disguised Epstein. I doubt Google's going to show you this, Jen. Oh, there you go, right there. Right there. See that? Maybe just this thing. Was it cold out, though?

No, that's, that is so clearly, Ehud Barak, look at that shit. That's so nice. And then he came out with the same jacket. I mean, dude, that's crazy. That's in his house in New York, bro. Shady. What was he doing? He was, he was clearly working for. Masat or Israel. Now, Israelis might be very embarrassed because they, because maybe, maybe it was a honeypot or maybe it wasn't, and they don't want to be associated now that it was found to be having sex with children or 14 year old. What else you got, Jen?

Last one on Epstein. So it says right here, nine days before his death, Epstein did not appear to be an immediate threat to self per the Bureau of Prison Suicide Risk Assessment. Nine days a long time, though. Yeah. it was day before now we're talking nine days in that condition i mean that's just an opinion you don't know what's going on in his head if you're going to kill yourself you're not going to tell anybody you're like now i'm fine you know but they said he does not appear to be in

danger to self conjection but i don't know you're just going to just find all of this and it's going to lead to frustration yeah also if you're going to commit if you're planning commit suicide nine days out when an expert comes to talk to you are specialist you know like i'm actually you want to get it done yeah and you have nine days to think and you go i'm never getting out of here yeah and you're you're in that shitty environment it's going to get way worse yeah because i i can't oh day nine population fast forward to day two of the night and you're like dude fuck well you're in a cell you'll be in a cell for 23 hours a day you're you're in what's called protective custody you can't go to gen pop because i'll kill you yep so for the rest of your life

you're you know what else you got chin here's a since we're on this topic uh since since we're on this topic have you guys ever there's a deep, deep question, but have you guys ever, ever, like, even gotten close to thinking about suicide? This morning. Yeah. No, but seriously, like, actually thought about maybe. No, but I've had, I've had, I've been low enough to want my plane to crash.

Dude, that is so crazy. I've felt the same way before, too. Yeah. In a plane, yep. Sometimes I've urged just take my car and go like this, going off the bridge here. Yeah. I thought I have kids. I definitely consider it more.

Is that weird? No, that's actually good. But that does suck. You can get overwhelmed with your responsibilities with not knowing how to get out of something. But it's definitely not the answer, kids. No, it is not. It is not the answer. That's why we're still here.

Because your life will be easier because you're not here, but then you're fucking over the ones left behind. You line yourself with the highest truth possible and you go through whatever you've got to go through. Yeah. There's some people that care about you. And you find a way to be your best self. The hardest thing about any kind of stress or whatever is finding a way. way to be your best self and continuing to perform in whatever you have to do like nothing's wrong and hopefully not having a heart attack through the process yeah think about gordon lion who had

who had always felt like he was seasick always felt like he was going to throw up and and and still fucking competed you just keep going and if people don't know what seasickness feels like it is probably one of the horrid yeah i've had one of the worst horrible horrible like people are you know the rock has lost a bunch of weight. And people are like, oh, he's doing for acting. He's like, I'm done with the box office hits because they think he's going to win an Oscar for his role for Mark Kerr. Wow. He had a 15 second stand ovation, 15 minute, which is always a little weird. He's crying. He's a great. He's great. But he was saying he's like, I'm done doing the box office stuff. Like they pigeonholmey and doing the, and he's like, I've made a lot of good movies, a lot of bad

movies. He's like, I want to do stuff that actually means something. And he's losing weight. And people like, man, why he's losing weight? Oh, because they don't want to. have a heart attack that's right he's had a fucking giant turbocharger of steroids in his system and his internals are about to burst yeah you're a he's doing for acting he wants to get better roles b he doesn't want to blow a fucking gasket at what is he 55 56 years old yeah not even sure and you will and you will your liver and everything's only out of time yeah he's running off he's running high PSI 53 53 he's 53 run that much gear all the time like your heart can only your heart as Trump says, only has so many beats.

Look at them here. This is a little cringy to me when they clap for 15 minutes after they watch it at Cairns or whatever the fuck it is. Go ahead, that's Mark Kerr. Actually, Mark her next to him. Yep.

Who is that? What's that? Emily Blunt, ever heard of her? Come on, dude. Yeah, she's gorgeous. Yeah, she's gorgeous. 15 minutes of clapping's a little cringy though yeah can you imagine someone singing a happy birthday to you for 15 minutes

all the attentions on you the rock is awesome isn't he who is that guy he's the director director what's his name does it matter well it might be charlie hoffman that's a long time it's awkward right did you ever see the original uh documentary yeah apparently this movie rock supposed to wouldn't be up for the oscar wow any softness

sophs suffice so in venice film festival 15 minutes stand ovation that's amazing very awkward is it amazing is it what you mean dial the fuck down 15 minutes staying ovation no no i'm saying i was thinking about his performance i would go like this thing Thank you. And I'd sit down. After two minutes, I'm like, oh, please, stop. It's too long. No, think about this.

It's like someone singing happy birthday for 15 minutes. Can you do me a favor? Enough. I go, enough. Yeah. Listen, I'm not the real, 15 minutes from Mark Kerr and his career, go and do that. He's the real deal. I portrayed him.

You guys enjoyed it. Stop. When Mark Kerr, when Mark Kerr knocked out, Stott, the Ranger. It was the fastest knockout in UFC history. Bring him up, bring up his body. I hung out with him afterwards. Joe and I did.

Me and Joe Rogan did when we were 27 or whatever was. And it was when nobody watched the UFC. I think we were in like Louisiana and he had a Heineken. And he wrestled, please understand he wrestled at 188. He wrestled at 188 pounds. And he was 260. Rock. And to his own admission, he goes, yeah, I put a little miracle grow in my fucking,

but look at his all-American fucking, that body is so ridiculous. Tim and Coleman. Yeah. His body was so stupid. And he had those American flag shorts. I mean. Look at his fucking traps there. That is a human stingray.

Yeah, that's a giant. They both were probably pretty sauced up. And I'm going to take probably out of that sentence. Yes. okay because you don't get more sauced up and he goes like this he goes yeah i rest at 188 but i put a little miracle grow in my cereal in the morning we were laughing he's he was a great guy really this trap is a lot bigger than that trap though yeah yeah that's what'll happen when those your your receptors i guess your androgen receptors or whatever also him shooting to that side all

the time who knows yeah could have some neurological damage where one side doesn't grow fantastic fantastic because you're getting so many stingers great shorts there's young joseph with the sideburn young joe rogan with mark cur mark's way taller than that by the way so i don't know why that's just a camera angle yeah i definitely want to see smash machine won't see it in a theater not going to lie not going to hire babysitter for that but i am going to see a minute it comes out on streaming two thirsty gals thirsty gals were all over him and he's like i'll talk to you in a second and he just started talking about us.

Yeah, he was jacked. Yeah. Roll of the lifetime for the Rock. Role of a life. They did a really good job as far as how they made him look. That was like very... Ryan Bader's in it. There's some UFC cats in that too.

Didn't call your boy. You hurt my feeling? Well, my brother, my boy, Bradley Cooper did a movie about stand-up with Will Arnett. No one called you? I didn't get a call. It's fucking. I got a call, but that's okay. What else got, Jen?

Have you guys heard about the new movie company, or it's already out? It's called Weapons? I have. Dude, everyone's talking about it. I can't wait to see it. Jeremy Piven's in that? It's still in the theaters right now. Isn't Jeremy Piven in that?

I'm not sure. Is this supposed to be good? Have you seen Barbarian? Oh, I haven't seen that. So the same director. Barbarian was amazing. I hear that. Justin Long was in it.

Oh, I saw Barbarian. Hey, don't you dare. It's all right. I hear it's great. It was awesome. You're not much of a anglify. film a file no i love i love scary movies yeah um well let me see them barbarian gray was you're too loose with the term great it's i didn't see it it's worth a watch yeah it's not

gonna change your life huh this is a true story that happened in my town this is where the story really starts dude i'm sorry but i have to watch that because that scares me I'll check it out I need you to calm down a little bit though And you thought Jeremy Piven was in it I think he's in a movie that's doing really well And I'm trying to think of what it is But that's

I love scary movie so I'll see that But Piven is not in that one It's like Go up It's that trailer That's what he's in This one Oh yeah

Pivin's making a comeback Yeah Three days ago I lost my green berets I'll watch that I can expect a time Me neither. Oh, honey, guys.

There's monsters out here. Yeah, I need the dinosaurs be aggressive, man. Not these little bitch-ass Jurassic Park dinosaurs. They're too friendly, man. Yeah. Come up and snaw. There's some good stuff coming out. Yeah.

Let's do this last one because Brian was asking last episode, that pretty girl. So this is a mother-daughter combo. It was the first time ever that they've done this. So they're making history. Fascinating. Amazing. Look, she's pretty.

To me, when I saw her, when I saw her, I thought she's your type. Father, son, the UFC? Yeah, she's everybody's type. I know, she's pretty, but I think specifically your type. I feel like you're type too, Chin. Yeah, she's cute. I think she's everybody's type. Yeah, I don't really have a type.

I'd let her fly me to Albuquerque. Fly me to the moon. All right, where are you going to be at? No way. A mother daughter. What are the odds? Covina. It's history.

Covina will see in a little bit. Charlotte, North Carolina, September of 1920. That's right. Covina, 12, 13, and 14. Charlotte, North Carolina, September 19th, 20th. Yep, and then Albuquerque, New Mexico, October 3rd, and 4th. There we go. Let's go, baby. All right, kids. Hopefully you're enjoying them.

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