The Fighter & The Kid - Bryan Callen got SCAMMED! | TFATK Ep. 1134

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Brendan Schaub has had enough of Bryan Callen's sandals and the guys talk Brendan's trip to New Orleans for a haunted hotel weekend, Bryan getting SCAMMED, UFC 321's fights and eye poking controversy with Ciryl Gane poking Tom Aspinall's eyes which ended in a no contest, Chael Sonnen and Anthony Smith's response to Tom not continuing to fight, UFC heavyweights in 2015 vs present, Bryan's son's wild comedic instincts, current events around the world including Bishop Marvin Winan's viral donation video and the Red Bull Rampage competition and much more! Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkRUGIET - Visit http://rugiet.com/fighter to get 15% off your first order.DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sports book app and use code FIGHTER. That’s code FIGHTER, bet five bucks and get 3 months of League Pass plus get $300 in bonus bets if your bet wins.Magic Mind - https://magicmind.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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it is this is what i swear by yes we did because we back at it again it's the fighter and the kid this is really the fighter and the kid come on baby hey pal sandals again

you know same podcast same sandals my friend said you're wearing a nice shirt with jeans and the sandals it's just not right but i always figured that people can't see my feet but they kind of can on this podcast it's probably the number one comment i get my dms making funny about your sandals is that right yep i gotta start wearing shoes it's just not your thing

dude? No, I got to wear my shoes. Listen, we talked about this. You know, there are certain places I feel you should dress up. One is church. Well, that's a given, dude. But it's not. One's church, one's, one's a funeral. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, but it's not. A lot of people are just so casual. Where you got? And then, and then we got to get, you know, on this podcast, I got to start wearing shoes. I like my toes to feel free, though, because they're American. I got American toes. When I see Santa, I'm like, that guy can't be doing well. You lose some energy in your body.

Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, he doesn't give a fuck. Yeah. And then it leaks over to other things. It leaks over to other things, right? Can't be too relaxed. No, man. It's like guys I see who say, I'm not going to have kids because I want to maintain my freedom.

And the irony is it ends up enslaving you. It's a weirdest thing. They'll be like 50 with no kids. I'm like, hmm, interesting. That's never good. Dude, I thought about you this weekend. I told you around to him, like, Callin would never go for this. Because I surprised John.

I went to New Orleans. right we like all the paranormal stuff so she goes you know there's like ritz carlton there there's four seasons there's the omni they have nice hotels in new orleans she's like i want stay in a haunted hotel i said cool so i just google top five most haunted hotels we find it right and i booked this top freaking haunted hotel the issue with that is new Orleans is very old so when you stay in an old hotel that's haunted very old let's get 1800 black mold oh everything smelled like mold but then we did the so she didn't know what we're signed up for we get there and she's like uh i'm like you want it haunted like the homie's not haunted you want haunted so we find out it was an

old hospital they had a ton of disease you know in new Orleans back in the day so this place was used as a shelter so thousands of people died there and it was so old and she was like what i'm like this what you ask for baby this is it this is it we weren't in the hotel that much she got no sleep I slept great. Ghosts wore me out. I slept great. And then you would have been making fun of me the whole time. We hired a private tour guide to go into the oldest cemetery.

So we go in the cemetery at 11 o'clock at night. He has all the devices and stuff. So I like the history of it. They have like everyone's dead and they're from the 1800s. And there's like family and there's these huge freaking because they're above ground. So it's like pretty and stuff like that. So there's all that. And he's going through like some famous people and there's some old school people.

It gives me a device and you see, you know, the ghosts and stuff with you. never believe and then uh he takes he takes us around to like this haunted house madame i forget her name she doesn't make an horror story but she took slaves she had slaves and the way she would discipline him she torture him experiment on him dude if they would act out she would put human feces in their mouth and so their mouth shut and put them in cage so like they call the house of horrors like horrible that's real but who knows if it's haunted so we see that and then between because you're with him at the cemetery for a while. Then between we go, he's like, I'm going to take you the best

Benets and coffee in New Orleans. It's not a, like, tourist spot. It's a local spot. So we go there, best Benet I've ever had. We're sitting down talking to him. And he's like, he's exactly he would think is a ghost tour guy. He looks normal, everything like that. And he, we're talking, and he goes,

he says, yeah, you know, my partner hates this stuff. Now, whenever someone says partner, it's, you know, I assume gay. no one like i would never call joanna my partner correct as soon as someone uses the term partner in my mind i'm like probably gay which all good that's their lingo all good very gay area so he was my partner's not into this stuff and he goes and he starts going about how he married this dude and i just go man i'm not at this point we got to each other he goes i'm not trying to offend you in any facet i said i can't believe you're gay dude he was i get that all the time man i'm like yeah you not i was like maybe i the gay people i know it's just the very flamboy i'm like you don't

give off any of that energy he's like yeah i get there a lot we go about the tour next morning's like i'm going to take you the best breakfast spot in new orleans it's it's kind of near your hotel it's about 20 minute walk we're like say less so me and joanna are walking seven the morning walk in how's the weather it's great no it's great yeah not human dude we're walking walking i start seeing all these gay pride flags i'm like oh we're in the gay district he takes this place called who dat it was in the gay district the the server that comes out it's just you would love them just a beautiful twink full full of a plate full of bacon hey this is what

you're thinking is it and I was and then his then his partner showed up and that's me and a bunch of gay dudes you're delicious yeah I figured they I didn't get any I didn't get any vibes because Joanna's putting off some mama beer energy but I didn't get any action there okay I didn't get any action there it's taking you in a little bit I think so big guy big guy Jesus big guy probably got a big hammer on him big guy oh I was telling Joanna I said listen new orleans haunted shit the thing you got to worry about is the crime like it's number one most dangerous city in america

that's exactly right so for fuck the dose like my head's on a swivel I'm stressed out the whole time when we're walking with guns yeah that morning walking 7 a.m. Homelessishish dude black dude with his pit bull walking same side like we're walking right next to each other

walking walking just pulls out his panther tails he's huge the hardest piss you've ever seen in your life and I just went I race horse I just went I get it you know I pee outside myself I would I get it Johnny goes oh oh my God I'm like be quiet man let the guy fucking piss that's like you've been here before

we don't want to fucking point his gun towards no big old ashy just and ashy heavy just I want to go hey my man clearly money's an issue have you ever thought of only fans I want to be like, if we could just get some cash together for you to get a cell phone, you launch only fans with that. Was it kind of a good looking guy, a little bit,

just kind of a rugged guy at least? That dick was so massive, it would not matter. It wouldn't matter. There are plenty of men that would pay to see that heavy dong. Oh, buddy. Yeah. Joanna goes, oh, Jesus Christ, right, whoosh. You could just have him pissing.

There are people that would like to see that big flaccid, heavy piece, piss. People would like that. All over the street. People would like that. pit bull. Oh, dude, big old, I mean, dude.

Yeah, some guys. Real super-soaker. Yeah, yeah, some guys have a lot. I enjoy it. I didn't feel any threat. No, I'm going to take it in. I'm going to take it in. Joy, I was laughing because I just went, I get it.

I don't know if I, did I mention that I, that daddy got, uh, I became, I was a victim of some crime. Did I, did I tell you this? Some boomer crime? Well, I, uh, well, I was supposed, I'm, I'm supposed to do Amy Poller's podcast. I tell you about that? No. So I was supposed to do.

Amy Poehler's podcast. In LA? Yeah, her assistant reached out and, you know, and she was like, hey, we'd love to have you on Storytime with Amy. Yeah, is a big podcast, right? Yeah, big podcast. You know what happened. And I know Amy from back in the day.

Sure, sure you do. I know a lot of people that I love him. I love Amy. I've known Amy for many years. I haven't talked to her in a long time, but I love her. Been busy. I've been busy. She's been busy.

She's been busy being super successful. I've been busy. She's busy counting money. You're busy doing what I'm doing. So she, but it's cool because, you know, I know her and we've always had a great report. That's not, though. So the, her assistant reached out and, and, uh, I, uh, and so we talk, they give me a list of questions and all that.

We go through it. And then I have to do a, like a, you know, you have to do, because we're going to actually, I found it was going to be a Zoom first because I, because she does it, which is so you'll have, somebody comes on on the internet and then talks about the person there. And I was like, it's a surprise. It was probably like a friend of mine. So I was like, okay, great. So they have to make sure that your camera is all, you know, and they.

And I was on my phone. They goes, well, we want to do it on a laptop. I mean, we want to do it on a laptop. Of course. So I'm like, oh, okay. So I schedule that and I get on, I get on. Now I'm on. And now I got to do it through Facebook live, you know, with your, you got to, and I don't

know how to do any of that. So he's got me on Facebook and I'm like, God, Jesus. And I'm doing this thing. And he's like, he's like, okay, do you see it? I'm like, I don't see anything. And he goes, you want to, let's screen share so I can help you with this. So now I'm scream sharing with the guy as he's trying to confirm. figure my Facebook thing so I can get to a point where I'm there.

And then I'm 20 minutes in as I'm clicking everything, I just, I'm like, you know, and he's going, okay, so, so this is really good and just, just make this. It's no problem. I'm going to help you this one. Now click this. It's great. Also, I go, hi, I go, I go, wait, so when are we doing the podcast? He goes, this Friday, we'll reach out to you.

And I go, oh, this was just a test run. I go, oh, this Friday. Okay. All right. And he goes, yeah. I go, how are we going to do that? So you, so is Amy, okay, so how, I'm going to do the same thing. Yes.

I said, where are you located? He goes, I'm in Los Angeles. I said, where in Los Angeles? He goes, you want my address? I was like, no. No, the area. So I was like, okay. And I just, you know, anyway, so we configure the thing and I'm, okay, Friday.

It was a test run. Yeah, I'm wearing. Rehearsal. Yeah. and I'm waiting. My producer for my podcast, I did it after I was done with my podcast. And my producer calls me, he goes,

hey, did you, do you know that Amy Polar podcast? Do you know it's a scam? Oh, no, he got into all for shit. Baba, Baba, he goes, they've been scamming people. I was waiting to do the podcast and it never happened.

And I'm like, hey, where's the, I'm waiting. Like, what do I do? I was all nervous. Dude, I'm so grateful for you. I've always wanted to meet somebody who got scammed by those podcasts. And I, when I say, when I say, I got scammed one, there's a Rogan one. When I say I got scammed so hard, I gave them all my information. I had to call a cyber security expert, a dude who really knows this shit, who was like, oh, yeah.

And he saw what they did. And he goes, so the good news is, I think that they were, these guys were just trying to get access. to your followers so they can spam and do a lot of stuff but they wanted access they sell access did you change all your passwords dude he went on the dark web they have all my passwords they have all my fucking everything you changed everything right changed everything but i was like he was like i was like how do they know that he goes hey they sell all this stuff you're just not it's not like you're that it's like you know but but just know that you you you anything you have is available out there well especially if you do that yeah but i mean yeah they got they got but i got dude dude

I even texted Amy and I was like I I'm DMed Amy I was like Hey I'm supposed to your podcast I'm waiting But nothing's going on here She's saying anything? No I didn't even hear She didn't even get my she had no clue Meanwhile but it's been going on and somebody else Who's a comic I can't remember her name

She got taken too Well they probably knew your special came out You're probably doing some PR Exactly But the way they did it was so good Not it's not gave me like all the questions Like you know Amy Amy can't wait to talk to you

they know somehow that I know her they do their research and it made sense i was like of course she'd have an assistant reach out to me and but so you're on your phone he goes i need you on a laptop and he said i need you on face time that was the red flag he needs me on my laptop and he was trying to tell me how to do it and i could do it open out face time he goes he goes let's let's do you want to screen share he goes would you like to screen share because i can help you and now he's got whereos pointing on i'm clicking here all that's a red flag oh dude yeah completely but then it told me I went, I went, he sounded Russian. I go, where are you from?

He goes, I'm Israeli. And I was like, you're not Israeli, you're Russian, bro. Yeah, you fucked up with that. And then I sent, but I have it all recorded. So I sent it to my cyber security guys, they go, oh, dude, he's Russian. Those are Russians. Yeah, they got you. Dude, Bubba.

Yeah. Did he show his face briar or not? No, of course. They got into my meta business suite. Damn, dude, dude, you got hustled. I got hustled. Damn. And I was all bummed out, too.

I was like, oh, I got blown off. And it was like, no, you. You didn't get blown off. You're not going on there, too. And you know, I'm really good at that. Like, I had a guy, this sophisticated operation to making a guy, was like, you know, the way they did it was interesting because they were like, you know, you, you won money. And I was like, great. And they said, they had this whole thing.

And they said, where can we send this? You know, and I was like, oh, because they tied it to, they tied it to. You fell for the money one? No, they tied it to some, like, a subscription. I had and showed me like how and so I was like no I didn't I fall for it I was like I looked at it and I was like and they said all we need is for you to pay the taxes on it right so I was like oh okay perfect how much it was like $2,000 I go $2,000 and how much do I get like $42,000 I was like where do I send the money where do I send the money and I had this guy going all over Kingston

Jamaica on Western Union and I made him chase it for two days and finally I said well is it not there He goes, no, he was getting so frustrated. I said, okay, I've been sending it to Constan. He goes, constant. You wasted both of your guys' time, though. I did. Can you check your butt for it? And he got so bad.

I guess you just taught him a lesson. But with the cybersecurity, they look into the, like, personal stuff, pictures and all that stuff for you? Yeah. What, he heard what the guy was saying. He saw it all, and he knows about this stuff. And he said, in your case, they didn't get into any banking stuff or money. I would never have, I would have been like, what, what they were trying to do, which they did,

was got access to my page, my meta business suite. And they could technically do anything? No, they, so Facebook is really good about that stuff. Facebook and they shut everything down. They'll just shut it down when they see some irregular activity. Well, especially someone logs in from fucking Russia. I would hope that's a red flag. They shut you down right away.

Yeah, because Facebook then, that's why they had that authentication and all that stuff. The problem is what they can do is sell access. to your Facebook page and then you can use that to post advertising spam people and all that ain't that a bitch oh it was so good and it didn't don't me until 20 minutes in i was like where are you from and i was like i don't this doesn't feel like that's a bummer yeah it's been a good podcast to do what's that i said that had been a good podcast to do son of a bitch when did you start taking action as far as when you found out um like to the next day.

Oh, you waited a day. I've waited two days. Oh, they definitely have, okay. Well, yeah. But by that time, it's too late. It doesn't matter if it's a day or two days. At that point, they've got everything on, you know, it's all, it's, they've already, they've already sold to a third party broker.

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Support the show. So Ruggia knows we sent you. Yeah, I remember when Rogan got his Twitter account hacked. And he said, oh, great God, please give me my Twitter back. And I think they did. And he said, if you guys see somebody tweeting up, Blackcocks, you'll know that I got my Twitter back. That's so fun. Yeah, it happens.

God dang, dude. I'm sorry, man. yeah i'll tell you where you don't want to go is uh bourbon street you would hate it be been there many times i know know all about it i told i told i told my scene i took joan i took joan you're seen either no god no i took joanna just to check the box for her she was like oh my god i'm like yeah it's like if you went to six street or you went to time square like it's a tourist thing like you don't want to be here a lot of like over sugared drinks out of shape but she's like oh got it now i tried living like the locals tried to eat how they eat you know i usually just eat steak

but i ate a lot of fish out there i went to some great restaurants great recommendations fish is fish man bro fish is fish i it just where was i was in new orleans where they were drinking pickle juice shots yeah that's delicious and you just girl like talking me like i just got oh no no remember that the oldest bar in america we went to it we went there jana was like uh they sell purple slushies i'm like it's disappointing that's disappointing that's disappointing keep it keep it classy keep it classy have high end mixologists yeah with you know what i mean no it's all it's all it's all it's all downhill now it's i love that place that blacksmith place it's great it used to be now it used to be did you eat any good restaurants or was yeah we're at one call it was all just okay

no the last one we had at the last night again our tour guide who's born and raised there he was like if you want a good meal he's like you can try to get reservations a place called commander something commanders and it's in uh the garden district and that's where like sandra bullock lives like crazy houses basically they're fucking belair it's right like it looks like your neighborhood you take it left there's this big sign says commander something and we went in there we got reservations and it was amazing amazing again i fucked up i had fish again it's all the same but joanna had a pork chop that was fuck that commander's palace that comes out of the bayou you know catfish Fish is fish, dude.

It's fucking waste of time. Yeah, Joanna didn't sleep, but that place is cool. She did not sleep. She didn't sleep, I slept great. Those ghosts wore me out. Well, she kept hearing sounds and all this shit. Go to her Instagram post-Jen. She kept hearing sounds and the faucet was running.

My thing is, all right, if there are ghosts, until one grabs me or some shit, I don't care, man. That's me right there. I found a ghost. Legit ghost hunter now. Turn it up, Doug. Wasn't they're pretty hot? No, that's the airport. Okay.

Hey, boomer. We got hustled online. That's the, that's it. That's it. She's good at Eddie. Yeah, she's good with it. She won an old school hotel. It's nothing fancy.

No. Because the old hospital and kids and everyone died there. It smelled like straight mold. This is great. Someone died in that courtyard. That's the hotel being ranked, one of the most haunted. Oh, this is the oldest pharmacy in America. Haunted as fuck.

French. The guy was practicing people in there, killing them. That's a wild bed. That was the bed the patients were on where you torture them. That's that old bar. That's the cemetery. That's the tour guide. Doesn't look gay, right?

That's the old ass cemetery. It's 11 o'clock at night. Those graves are cool, though, above ground, right? Dude, I'm legit ghost hunter. That's me finding a ghost. Not a big deal. no you are facts that's proof a hundred percent agree

that's me find one see the body yes that's me that's me telling Zach Baggins I found a ghost this is not like you to go away for a weekend no two days day and a half also it was a Wednesday and Thursday

you know me I can't miss the Tigers games I wasn't that scared in the cemetery it was just cool I thought it was cool all the history and you can tell the rich families yeah we survived dude oh that's how you won't that's american horror story that's the covenant house with the witches oh wow that's cool at ryan murphy they shot there you should read a book called midnight in the

garden of good and evil oh yeah yeah it's good you'd like it's real no what you're editing by joanna though she's beautiful she was scared as fuck i was good yeah yeah i know i well it looks terrifying not for you dude we went to a plantation the old one of the old plantations and i was sold that it was going to be a perspective from the slaves point of view and it was super haunted with like voodoo and stuff it was straight like eighth grade uh fucking you know something you'd do in middle school yeah well that's like in charleston when i went to the the slave market and it was just very underwhelming it was just a room with a bunch of posters on it there was nothing this was actual plantation so it was kind of dope but then and there was everything like the slaves where they lived

where they disciplined them yeah the the actual master's house then it the family still owns it and then the sugar canes they're still working wow yeah well that's like uh the farm in angola uh is it angola mississippi you've seen the farm it's a um it's a prison you understand and it's actually they worked the farm but it's basically old school it's still a thing oh yeah farm in angola the farm in angola it's a it's a prison yeah there you go Louisiana state penitentiary yeah largest maximum security prison Louisiana state penthouse yeah that stuff's heavy man man you're out there and Harry Connick Jr. grew a beard and went and spent a week in there

for some TV show and got recognized. Now, here's the thing about Harry. His dad was the prosecutor. Yes, was the DA. So did they try getting him? Well, they didn't, but one dude looked at him and said, I know who you are. Oh, wow.

Dad put me away. It's all good. Oh, wow. He said it's all good? Yep, he was on a tractor. Jesus. Yeah, I believe he was there. It's...

the song angola at the farm oh okay maybe he was just there a shoot a fucking uh maybe he shot a video do you think you made that out about his dad that's fine i enjoyed it dude while it lasted you know yeah he was i kind of had my doubts but yeah you know he didn't live there no no no no no but of course not

yeah but of course not yeah but of course not but I enjoyed it dude I appreciate Sometimes you gotta just say something I know you have a foggy memory of it Dude I appreciate the effort Now can we talk about the fights Did you watch them They should give us a refund

Well The fight worth talking about really is Like did you feel like See I don't think the fight went on long enough To see that our boy Aspinall would have been dominated Do you? No.

It was under a round. Now, I do think you can watch and go, okay. Like, that continues this way. Like, I think Tom was having an off night, and he was getting lit up. Like, we've never seen him really hit like that. Cyril Gun was definitely jab. I mean, bloodied him up. His take down, like Tom's takedown to look great.

Like, Tom was going to have some issues. Right. Now, it's crazy to say he would have done that all five rounds. Like, who knows? Tom hit so hard he could have caught him, but From the looks of it Yes, Cyril, Cyril is What I got from it is that

You got a guy like Cyril Gaon who starts to feel himself and he's a big dude who's got He's a high level striker It looked like his striking was clearly as high level as Tom Oh, way higher, way higher. Higher, right? And then it's also, remember, it's also the first time Tom's face a guy with better striking

And then to stuff the takedown That takedown was even close That's a long fucking day for Tom. The takeaways are John would beat the shit of both of them And I think Tom has an off night I think that was Cyril Gunn's only chance Because, you know, he's O-N-2 in championship fights

Man, did he fuck up, poke him in the eye Because now it gets stopped They got to do a rematch. Tom goes, okay, I'll take this a lot more serious This is how he's going to fight me I'm not going to have another off night And he's can capitalize on it. Yeah.

Like Seragon, that was your moment, dude, and he fucked it up. Yeah, the Jim Miller thing was good because he said just take a point away right away it'll stop that shit i've been saying that for years i love jim miller my my thing is this so the the issue with i pokes groin strikes and fence grabs are so they they label a no contest accidental i poke well how the fucking say it's intentional we don't know right no contest it should be it should be disqualification there should be no gray it should be very black and might you should have extensive like horrible repercussions if you do any of those so if the

fighter came then people would never they'd reach out like this they would never they're doing it because they know they know i'll get a warning maybe a point away but it's going to change dynamic the fight can still win so fighters they're not scared of getting a deduction or a warning but if if if syragon and john jones if you went hey new rule if you poke in the eye and they cannot continue you they automatically win the fight you you lose i guarantee you i poking stop all these people like oh the gloves shut the fuck up just make it fucking black and white yeah you poke in the eye right away we're induct the point but if he cannot continue there's no more you lose your purse you lose your you lose half

your pay and he wins the fight and go guarantee you because a lot of these guys are doing to get distance you know they're trying to feel for the range or they're just act it's just natural like him but if your coach goes in training camp goes hey man your fingers keep coming out you do on the fight we're going to lose the fight i guarantee you it stops but there's literally there's no repercussions okay so sarah gun poke them i do the rematch sorry tom it's so stupid yeah it's so stupid yeah man i i think so in the narrative that tom assholes a quitter and all that shit that's crazy no that's who said that chale what yeah really yep chale said that really I mean I don't know that you know until you've been poked in the eye right you know whether

you can go or not it's like I think he's chale put his own insecurities on tom because remember chale quit in a fight he did yeah Anderson sylpha he was dominating the fight and found a way out so I think him he's putting his own insecurities on tom well chale maybe just says things sometimes you know he's doing for the rage baiting that's what he's doing because everyone's going have most people that know the sport are going to have my take the guys there's no quit in him that's fucking stupid um was he misquoted or no no bry okay i'll just play for you brian i'm disappointed i'm disappointed i talked all day yesterday like i just want to see tom have to overcome some adversity i want to see what he does

when the things the when his first plan of action doesn't work what he checked down to Is he going to wrestle? Can he compete with Cyril Gondon on his feet for 25 minutes? And I don't get any of those answers. And just like everybody at home, I'm disappointed. Dean poked in the eye is illegal, Brendan. But to fight with one eye is very common. The opponent's trying to hit your eyes, trying to bust up and make your nosebleed. So that part of it does have question for guys like Anthony and I. We're trying to be polite. We're trying to show grace. But in all fairness, if you're the heavyweight champion of the world, you've got to fight with one eye at times.

Anthony? Yeah, but I just think an eye pose. poke is an exception it's pretty debilitating what do you think both eyes both eyes he got poked in both eyes right yeah there was like both eyes no actually it was just one i think wasn't it no the other one's actually i do it live and be it's fucking both eyes but bring it up it's so bad dude yeah and one's knuckle deep but you can't it's both eyes now i thought the other eye was the issue because it's knuckle deep like knuckle deep in this one this one look bad no You, it's a huge problem.

Oh, fuck, I didn't realize that. I did not realize that. There's better ones, but yeah. You see that one? Oh, my God, dude. Oh, my Lord. And the one that was causing issues, it goes in and up. No, no, no.

You cannot, you can't, you cannot expect. And for a guy like Tom, when the ref comes over, and he goes, I can't see. You can't. You can't expect a man to do that. You can't. No, it's stupid. And it's also terrified. It's your eyes.

What the fuck, you know? It's terrifying. That's awful. That's not right, man. That's not right. Cyril Gunn, you know, I think you should be disqualified for that. I think it's just,

the consequences are too fucking dire for that. Yes, I really do. You should lose the fight. That's my whole thing. Now, for Tom, luckily, they didn't see any damage. Henry Sehuda was saying, his eyes, the thing is that your eyes stay really sensitive.

Yeah. So Henry said, like, if there's a little dust, my eyes get red. And it took a year to get his eyes back, you know? Yeah. And I, I think they have to fucking make the consequences his grave. Of course.

Like it's not right. What is that? What is going on when he's doing that? Trying to make distance. It's a bad habit. Yeah. It's natural reaction to reach out like this and goes out. But again,

they're going to be so conscious of it. If you do that, you lose, again, until it stops. It has to stop. Because now people are going to do this. Like just get in the habit of that. Don't fucking...

In training. Yeah. Do not open your hand. Keep your hands. Close your fucking hands. Crazy. Close your hands. It's,

it's that that is um yeah in it crazy the only thing i can say is i think i would imagine chale may have not that was right after the fight and i think sometimes people don't know the extent of that you go knuckle deep like that fuck off like no he saw it we all saw it blah you listen i love chale we all saw it chale's also a little bit of rage baiting right like this is we're talking about it this gets views he knows well anthony seems to say the same thing right they were both you know kind of saying yeah i think i think that is but to but to say the heavy champion of the world is scared to fight is insane no it's so stupid yeah everybody's scared to fight but he's there because would you say the same thing if he was winning the fight

well um we'll have to wait now what's that jen it's just an extra part of it says if you get hooked you're a heavyweight champion we've got to fight with one eye at times i've checked out fights before i know it looks like i knew he was done if you get poked the eye and can't see that's just something you got to push through he's just wrong he's just wrong it's such a meat head way of thinking it that would be the equivalent of going dude you got your bell rung go back in the game dude you got your bell run there's science now yeah where it's like no no no no don't do that because let's go through if he went back out there Now remember, Tom's not a grappler.

Tom's not a wrestler. He's not like Hamzot or Makachev who can force the takedown. His plan was to strike clearly, right? So if you're a grappler, I can see dealing with one eye because you've just got to get the takedown. But when your goal is to win by striking, you need both eyes. But let's say Tom's like, fuck it, too much pressure. Yeah, I can't see.

Let me continue forward. He goes out there and the best striker he's ever compete against, who's having some success, head kicks him and knocks him out. you lose your title half your pay and then you got to go back in the queue back to the drawing board and it's a highlight for the next five years on the UFC shows no one talks about that and then remember most of the casuals no one's going to be like yeah you got knocked out but he had one eye that all that we'll forget about this in two days all that we're going to know is tom lost by head kid kale I agree that's the downside of this

there's no there's no pros into being tough and doing what Chale's saying. I agree. It's so stupid. Now, if, now if you're a new guy, if this year first or second fight in the UFC and you're on the border of getting cut, you got to fight with one fucking eye. If you're Tom Aspinall, the king of the heavyweight division, you've already proved yourself. You don't fight compromise, especially when you're the title holder. You, you're playing a different game. It's crazy. Yeah. Chails off on this. It's going to be interesting to see the, well, is there any talk of making that a fucking rule? No, I've heard of

You know, it's like, fuck, it's It's really a problem, man, really, really bad So Anthony Smith said, I'm not saying it's Tom's fault Well, fuck, you definitely not And I don't know how bad is or it isn't Let's assume that Tom's not bullshit It's pretty bad But Chale made a good point

You have to be willing to fight with one eye I didn't Singapore Look up how that went for Anthony Smith in Singapore Can you do that from a chin? You can also see, guys, like when somebody's knuckle deep in your eye, That is such a serious thing. Let's take a little break here, B, because the NBA is back.

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NBA League Pass Auto-Rewews until canceled additional terms at dkng.co slash audio limited time offer and in the other eye gets poked both eyes same time yeah no but i think you're absolutely right the upside or downside is way when when you're champ it's it's different it's just different things so the Singapore fight you want split decision against Ryan span I think sometimes it gets mixed up with the John Jones knee thingy what are you saying I think sometimes it gets mixed up with John Jones. Remember, like, was it John Jones who accidentally hit him with the knee? Yes.

Like, grounded a pony or whatever. And then, so then Anthony could have said, like, I can't continue. He would have won. He would have won. Yeah. Anthony's a dog. Anthony's a dog. And this isn't a knock on it.

But when you're not even a main event on a fight night in Singapore and you've lost two out of your last four, you probably should fight with one eye. If you're the number one heavyweight in the world and you're undefeated and you're a title holder, you probably shouldn't fight with a compromised eye. It's just different. So Anthony's a fighter's fighter. I love Anthony. He's one of the dogs of all dogs.

He gets through it. But me, Anthony Smith, Chale, are not Tom Aspinall. You know, they're not. Did you I didn't see the umar fight how did he look he got caught he got kicked right in the fucking face Wow, he got dropped wow and then Batista didn't capitalize on it he should have fucking went balls to the wall And he's like oh I'm next in line for a title shot. He just he can't be your Umar no can't two boy two what he's two born He's too much just yeah, they'll have to win two or grinder

Yeah, it's just not what we want he's gonna have to win two or three more to get there And Rob just beat him in January yeah yeah mackenzie durn looked good yeah but that that that that card was dog shit yeah well

interesting yeah it's a bummer for tom just bad luck when will I fight again who knows who knows who fucking knows was it as early as December could they depending on his eye I don't know they have the December card already

lined up i bet they the earliest to be february maybe march long time long time long fucking time does he get paid yeah they get paid i assume they don't get their win money neither gets their win money and tom doesn't lose the belt and then the pay-per-view points i'm sure tom might be in pay-per-view yeah wow hey thanks google like it happened in 2026 nothing official yeah no shit

yeah no kidding well okay line of sydney it's just bad luck for tom it really is dude just it it's not his fault but it's also unnecessary it just like I don't know fucking

but imagine imagine tom you're sitting out over a year waiting for john it doesn't happen you start camp you stop camp you start camp you stop camp depression sets in i'm sure you're not getting paid you're not making money no you're sitting out and over a year yeah and then you finally pick up camp you're fighting sir gone to be honest no one really gave a fuck about like everyone's like i guess i'll take it let's it's actually it's actually the hard truth is that right the hard truth there's that you're you're going for john you know hold on nothing works out so you're off for you're off for over a year, these up and downs, up down, no money, people are, you know, you expect this

John Jones fight, you got to settle on Cyril Gahn, it's in fucking Abu Dhabi, you shake off the cobwebs, finally you're back in camp, and you don't even get through a entire round, and you get poked in the fucking eye. You know, what do you do? When you say that people didn't really care about Tom Aspinall, Cyril Gahn, like, like, fight guys, people are real fans like myself do. Not really. For the most part?

Not really. For the most part? Not really. What do you mean? I'm just saying like even fight fans. The numbers don't say it. No, no one really gave a fight. So the, it's so interesting because 25 years ago, I was talking to a producer, a big producer.

And they were saying, they were saying, well, we were talking about Morgan Freeman. And the guy said, not, and Robert Duval, who are like actors, actors. Yeah. And he said, but they're not movie stars. and both of us went, what? They star in movies. He goes, yeah, it's not a movie star. It's not what we call a movie star.

What are you talking like? They can't open a movie, nobody cares. Great actors. Yeah. You love them. Yeah. But the public is not going to see. They're not getting babysitters.

They're not, they're not, there's a very small group of people. Oh, and fighters. Even more so. Yeah. That people will actually tune in for it. It's just, it's just, if you look at the actual numbers. Tom, Tom needs what Josie Otto.

Remember, Joe's Otto. Well, the best ever. Nine-year run. W.C. Like, great. Was never a big fan favorite. In Brazil, obviously, pretty big, but never, like, the must-see TV. No.

And then you get an adversary in Connor McGregor, and then everybody gives a shit. Even though he got starch in, like, whatever, it's 23 seconds. Then it put Aldo on the map, and he went on to do great things. Tom needs his adversary. Unfortunately, it's 225, and the heavyweight division has never been worse. It's atrocious There's just there's none of them Why?

There's none of all the big guys are like fuck this Like they're going on to other sports There's heavy divisions has never been worse Nobody wants to fight MMA When they could play something else you mean Yeah it's just everyone thought there's gonna be this big boom With the popularity of the UFC It just never happened

First of all I heard that I heard that when I came in They're like dude you know imagine if you get started When you're young and I'm like yeah yeah Yeah it just never happened Giant men are very rare too You always had trouble finding me men your size to train with, right? I mean, they're out there, but the thing is,

there's no, none of the guys are going over to it. They're just not, so for Tom, unfortunately, and even his dad said this, he's like, Tom has three fights left on his contract, and then we're going to get a boxing super fight. We're out of here. Because think about it. So let's say he beats Serragan, right? So we're never seeing that again.

Who else would you pay to see him fight? Now it's going to be free on... Only Tom, John, John's, only. Yeah, so he has three fights left, so you're going to get Cyril gone, he'll get the winner. of Alex John, which happened at the White House, and then maybe fight the, if he loses that, which he will, if it's John.

If he were to lose that, he fights the loser of John versus Alex. Those are your three fights from Tom. And then you go to, because let's say he's re-signed for six fights. Who are you going to watch him fight? Volkov or he beat him. Are you? Pavlitz, or he beat him.

Curtis Blades, he beat him. Yeah. Almeida, he doesn't deserve to be in the top five. Acosta? those top fucking besides Curtis Blades two through 15 aren't even the top 25 of this 2015 so for Tom he just he was born at the wrong fucking time now maybe this is now not how would Tom do against those

215 guys probably pretty tough probably not champ probably not champ well he's going to have some problems with a guy named to Cane Velasquez. You're going to walk through fire. Right now, he's, this is the yellow brick road for heavyweights. Right now you're, what the fuck?

It ain't the fire. It ain't the fire. You're the king of country. By the way, Daniel Korme is going to be a big problem for you. Oh, yeah. Big problem for you at heavyweight. Let me go over something.

Let me just hear you bring it up. I don't know what I'm a shit. Let me go over for you. Oh, yeah, Kane Velasquez. You got Brock Lesner. King Velazquez is going to get. Hold on. Shane Carwin, Steepay, JDS in his prime, Verdume, Bigfoot Silva, a guy named Josh Barnett, Ben

Rothwell, Roy Nelson, we're at 11. Jesus Christ. We're at 11th. Yeah, Roy Jones, Roy, Roy Nelson's not hearing a peep out of anybody. His jiu-jitsu is crazy. He's about the most rugged guy. He'll walk right through your fucking. Not all those guys just mentioned.

That's your guy? Verdum? Well, I'm saying, you made. You made, you made, like, Big Country was at number 11. He's a nightmare. Well, I'm not saying that he's 11. I'm just giving you 11 headways. He could be in the top five, top 10.

100%. But then there's Verdome. What are you going to do? Jiu-Jitsu with him? You fight him, though. You box him. Who can? I mean, Aspinall puts some hands on his face on Verdum's face.

Yeah. A tough one. Hey, by the way, did you forget about him? Take him down. I named Steepen-Mios. I named Steve. Okay. And that's when Sibbe's coming up.

Remember, he's still not the champ. So you're getting Prime Steepet. Prime Steepay. Prime Steepay. You're going to talk about Gonzaga? We're going to do with Gonzaga in his prime. You need to take him down? No.

Then we toss in Crow Cobb, if you want. We can toss him into? Overeem's there. We're tossing him in, too? Juicy ovarim? Yep. Oh, boy. Now, we have some issues.

Oh, and then DC have come up from light heavyweight. No, DC's D. do you see 100% come up from outlet heavyweight and his wrestling's going to be a problem he's going to be picking you up and throwing you on the ground josh burnett what are you going to do with him yeah you're not taking down that's not an option that's not an option josh is a josh would be more of a more of a a solvable problem i would imagine absolutely not josh barnett in his prime josh barnett in his prime if you if you if you if you if you could have a hot tub hot tub time machine so smart so

such a smart phone. Oh, dude. His IQ Steve roof. You, you, Hot Top Time Machine. I didn't mention Mark Hunt, Travis Brown,

Ben Rothwell. Mark Hunt, oh my God. Dude, you're so right. You got some, you got some giant fucking killers in that.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Junior? I ask you. The guys, two through 15 right now, where would you rank them in that?

they're not even in the UFC. Well, I would say this. I would say this. Tom Aspinall is a special kind of fighter, a special kind of athlete, and an excellent boxer and got excellent jujitsu. Hold on. Hold on. Let's talk about that.

When you say excellent boxer, how do you know? Who's the best striker he's got against? The only thing I'm going by is what? His knockouts? Is his education? I would imagine being enticing. and furious camp and having boxed for so long no that doesn't give a fuck he seems to know what he's doing does he because he leads it with his face well and now hold now hold on when you say uh amazing

jihitsu is that what you said which fight showed you that bryan which one the one where it went to the second round of orlowski and he got his back and orlowski's 60 years old on his his great wrestling again we're all told this in camp yes my thing is which fight showed you this high-level wrestling, this cardio. This is very good question. It's a very good question. It's the question. So let's talk about Fabrice Overduman in his prime.

You want to talk about, hold, don't even, Kane Velasquez? What the fuck would Tom do against Kane Blasquez and his prime? No, no, Kane's a nightmare. Okay. Kane's not happening. We know the money's on King. Now you said Tom Astell's boxing is like phenomenal, right? JDS in his prime?

Good. and JDS is more athletic is he yeah and every bit is big oh yeah so yeah jd yes is about as tough as it gets steep Amiosich his boxing is excellent his timing that's good it's good knocked out Verdume you know he's good wrestling mark hunting is by him oh my god well mark's going to be able to walk through your punches and just land bombs Yes. Got some problems there. Travis Brown in his prime?

Just a very big man. Well, he's 6.8. He's all, every bit of 6.8. And you can't take him down. Trust me, I tried. You can't take him down. Well, also, Tom's not a takedown guy. No, he's not.

He's not. Now, Josh. Tom primarily, would you say Tom primarily is a, a hand striker? He had some low kicks, but for the most part. He had some good kicks against Cyril, but his thing is he's the fastest of the bunch. Yes. With his one, two. Fast hands.

and very athletic. Yes. But there's some questions when it comes to the defense. My only concern for him, I think he's by far the best heavy around the planet. Yeah.

When it comes to defense. Got caught a couple times, didn't he? Right in the beginning with jabs with a right. And he got bloodied up. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. And now I think it's more of Tom had an off night. There's ring rust, the ups and downs of the camps with John. It was a perfect storm. And it was a blessing

that he got post. in the eye and they had to stop it because now he goes all right all right now i can do that again i can adjust and make some correctment correctments and i'm going to fuck cyril gone up well he he you know with sergey pavlitch who was knocking everybody out right he yeah we don't know who's he knocking out yeah go to sergey patlin again this big scary russian put him in 2015 again you're knocking out cans i'm not going to co-sign this dude Dude? Hold on.

Let me see if he knocked out. Take it easy. Man, you're getting worked out. All right. Don't know those guys. Okay. Well, Rosen struck. Okay.

Derek Lewis is probably his best win. Lost to Volkov. Lost to Aspinol. Yeah. Curtis Blades. Did he knock? T.K. Oh, yeah.

That's significant. Tied to Avasa. Derek Lewis. He's beat some fucking... Who's the, like, outlier striker that he fought? Oh, Alston. Oh, he got knocked on the first run.

Okay. What were we saying? I'm talking elite fucking striking here, dude. The one guy he fought who's a lead of the elite, he got fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Derek Lewis, again, knockout artist. Not the most technical guy.

Did you see what happened when D.C. fought Derek Lewis? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a, it was a different time. It was a different time. My point is, we got to be careful saying. world-class striking.

We have to be very careful. You got to watch your words. We don't know, do we. But we do. But we do, don't we? But we do. We do. Yeah.

So I need you quit saying world-class boxing, okay? I just figured he was in Tyson Fury's camp. Doesn't matter. You know, it's like, it's his guy and sparring with some great boxers. But again, this isn't Tom's fault. And now maybe Tom is born a little earlier, and he's, was fighting 215 he adapts and he's athletic enough where he's a fucking monster i would say also when you're when you're fighting in the u k tough very tough people i don't know if they have the best

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slash fighter rules and restrictions may apply this october fear is free on pluto tv with horror movie collections from paranormal activity the ring you will die in seven days scream and from dusk till dawn this is my kind of place and don't miss the man-made nightmares in mary shelley's frankenstein or the world ending chaos in 28 days later something in the blood all the scares all for free. Pluto TV. Stream now, pay never. Yeah, there's not a tradition of it. You didn't grow up. There's not tradition of wrestling and jiu-jitsu in England. But even in your jiu-jitsu, again, with all due respect, because it's imported to the UK and because it's not, you're not getting those high-level looks necessarily. It's just, you're just not. You're getting it, you're getting it, you're getting it, it's a little

bit, it's tough. It's different. It's just different. It just is. If you get your black belt from Henzzo. Okay. Now, now we're having a conversation. Wachalla gave you a black belt? Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. That guy's going to be fucking tough. Yeah. And you're, and you know, you wrestled if you're Bo Nicola and you had that wrestling pedigree, we're look, we're going,

you've been wrestling since you were six. I got you now. Okay. That's world class wrestling. And you wrestle on the international circuit. Okay. You've seen those looks. Henry Sehudo.

You're like, we got some real wrestling here. See, those people you mentioned that you can say world class. Sehudo, pro nickel. 100% okay right so you know that you know they can put you on your back you know that you know they're going to be they're going to keep you on your fucking tummy or your back not so when you have a guy who has not

grown up with that and a black belt and jiu jutsu is a black belt and jutsu but that varies there's different levels massively massively i've seen this now i've seen this in austin where somebody will be a a really good black belt in jiu juts i've told you this forever yes and then you'll see there's different levels to black belt Yes. And you can also, you know, you can see competition black belts when they only have done competition jiu-jitsu. It's different level. It's not going to help you necessarily in MMA when you're getting punched in a face. Just a different consideration. You can even get in a bad habit. Again, it's not a knock on Tom. This is just, it's this bad luck of these shitty fighters. That's when he was born. He's king. Francis left. The UFC fucked that up, drop the bag. and so Tom's sitting here like dude what the fuck let me prove myself give me Francis give me these guys and he's like sorry

it's just it's just the mishandling of Tom Aspinall Cyril Gunn has always been 30 for 30 Cyril Gunn though has always been the big question like Cyril gone has always been that legitimate giant athlete who can strike really well but he has no wrestling right so now I'm sure he's been working on nothing but how to stuff takedowns and how to defend against you know somebody when they're on top

copy you i hope right like he's he's o and two and you know chimpship fights yeah he's glaring holes in his game um jih Tzu's atrocious yeah and he also his fight IQ is especially when it goes to grappling is very low he went for a heel hook on frances gano where tiger's heel hooks are better right now like he just made a horrible he is his fight IQ when it comes to grappling so low yeah it's so frustrating but for him and tom looks like you want to keep on the feet So, yeah, well, Tom may have no choice if his takedowns aren't working, right? No, no. And it looked that way.

I think the thing is when Cyril Gond fights Tom, he's not going to have to necessarily plan for takedowns a little bit. He will in the rematch. He will. He will in the rematch. I bet Tom beats the shit out of him the rematch. Really? Yeah. Because he's going to wrestle one.

He's seen it. He was, oh, that's how he's going to fight me? because Tom has so much he can change and improve on. Cyril, that's his game. This is how he's going to fight. This is what he had success for. So Tom goes, got it. We can study this round.

This was his plan. Our takedown, the way we engage on takedowns, that's not the move. He fucking shut that down. So we're going to switch this up. So this actually helps Tom out. It sucks right now. I would bet any amount of money Tom beats the shit out of him in the rematch. really yes he just downloads some shit yep goes got it had an off night or cyril has a lot

of confidence now and says i can put my hands on this yep do it he's gonna get taken down he's gonna take it get taken there well but tom needs to calm down but that that could again that could be 400 something days off from the octagon he needs to calm down he was he was rushing in too much he was like here in pico leading with your fucking face he's getting tagged up because again you're fighting the best strike you've ever faced he's counter striking his hook his jab he's getting lit up dude whoa whoa whoa you don't want to defend punches with your face what are you doing hands up distance control what are you doing set up the combinations then shoot for the takedown like cyril guns takedown offense isn't good but if you're just getting all he works on i'm sure

is straight wrestling straight shots so you got to mix up with your hands and then shoot man mix up with low kicks then shoot you got to put it together like gs p that's right you can't just strike or wrestle that's your issue no and that's what he was doing his camp's smart yeah this is actually a huge benefit for tom you think so yes beats the shit i'm the rematch yeah yep that was saragon's one chance to win that night tom was off a little rusty and you poked him in the fucking eyes and got decured and you poked him in the fucking now you're fucked you could have been champ now you're o in three in title fights now you're about to be o in four you think so you think that this is you think that now they can game play.

Oh, you fucked up. Really? This was your one-opt- You saw all of Cyril Gons game plan in that? Yeah, oh, yeah. Which is... What else he can do? Keep distance, low-pakes, follow-up with punches.

Yeah, what else are you going to do? I don't know. There's nothing, that's his bread and butt. That's what he does. It might be hard to deal with, though, if he can stop the takedowns. Tom's got to figure out a way to take them down. Did not work out very well. Didn't work out.

What did he try for? Double-leg? What did he try for on that one? He, like, shot in and then came up from the hips And then underhook, and then Cyril was like, get out of here. Yeah. You got to get... Again, you may be dealing with Tom Aspinall,

whose takedowns are not his bread and butter. It's an easier thing to plan for. I'm still not right and Cyril gone off. I am. You think it's his fight IQ? Not when it comes to striking. Yeah. I think it's his MMA grappling IQ.

Yeah. He just does some dumb shit. what do you got chin what question for you since this is a fantasy thing that you're talking about uh fador in his prime how do you think he does against tom and gone i don't know that's a good question oh look at brin it beats the fuck out of both of them what are john hey come on man fador in his prime too in his we are we did forget about fadour i didn't he just was in the ufc son i mentioned him right them right what right beat the fuck out of these guys fade or the fuck not to mention

wrestling's not a joke tom and cyril going for a ride they're going for a fucking both of them are going for a ride and then both them are getting fucking whatever he wants to do fade or you guys the fuck out of here um that's very funny to me now hold on can we go before we jump on i forgot to ask you and you think john jones Makes mince meat out of both these guys. Pro, you got to go back and watch John versus Cyril gone. He dogwalks Cyril gone so easily. Cyril's doing his thing, like kicks and stuff, and John's like, John's all.

Get out of here. Where's the belt? Thank you. It's like he's playing with a toddler. Wow. Cyril didn't get anything. No, he didn't do anything. He just, he got in his lap.

John, well, I guess. Got in his lap and did that. Okay, John, like, dude, stop, stop. Just, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, don't be scared. Oh, is that the heavyweight belt? Oh, cool. It looks like my other ones. Thank you.

Just that quick. It was such an easy fight. And then you watch Tom struggling, Sierra, you're like, John dropped the bag on 30 mil. That would have been quite the easy fight for. It's the greatest fault time, dude. Yeah. who's a great master planner.

And our thing was like, oh, if John gets on top of them, or if Tom gets on top of them, you ain't taking John down? John's, John and his brothers, and God rest his oldest brother's soul here, but I think that they're, somebody was saying, it's not just that they're physically gifted.

Part of what makes them so special, especially John, what makes John such a special fighter, is his ability to process information under stress. Of course. right he's just able to do that high fight of high IQ a little bit of sociopath

like fear is not a thing for him yeah so he's like oh hey yeah and that's why when they're like he's ducked him John's like what he's so smart John's like why would I fight Tom Aspinall who's a big risk big guy but not the name that Alex

Perez who's a high level striker and at 240 Alex Perea is a fucking problem yeah well until john grabs him yeah man it's gonna be so he grabs him yeah it's gonna be so he grabs him is that true yeah yes john jones yeah talking about the guy who took down dc and his prime and broke him dude he took down he took down a two-time olympian he took him down with a double leg and you can see on dc's face like fuck now you think Alex pierre's gonna stop it he's the best wrestler to step in training with Glovertex era.

No, I know. I know. I know. You'd be training with fucking Mark Kerr. Levels, bro. It doesn't matter. Levels. Some people just have a thing, you know.

They just, you know, my son, my 14-year-old son, great, much to my great delight, that kid is such a natural comic. It's so crazy. And he just has an instinct for it. He said the most inappropriate thing. We were a friend of mine,

these people their house and Finn was going to go fishing with their son the son's a little younger and the kids said uh oh I forgot I don't have bait so what are we going to use for bait

and Finn went it's so inappropriate Finn goes you have a dog and the lady of the house the adult goes yeah and he goes he goes mince it but he held it

because you thought he was a psycho he just held it like this and mince it I go I was like Finn and he just he was sophisticated enough to know that that was a horrific thing to say

but obviously he's joking but the way he did it with the timing mint it I was like he just held it and yeah he goes like this he goes he goes mince it

and then and then we're standing like that and I know how to hold and he looks at me and he goes I was like you're fucking good dude you're good he goes then he goes do you want to catch fish i mean what do you want me to do what

you're going to say you know and that that's an instinct that he has you can't teach that i was seeing how you can't teach that come around and me dad about john jumps i can't teach that i i can look at this kid now and i go i know what you're doing and you have such a sophisticated sense of humor that i that's not something i taught him i did not teach him that and i can see him doing that and it's like tom jones john jones is going to be able to tom jones tom jones is going to be able to sing so well in the house. I just want to tell you that story. I just want to tell you that story about Tom Jones.

I just want to tell you a story about my son and I weaved it into the John Jones thing. It's a stretch, but I enjoyed the story. Yeah, it's great. It's a stretch. Yeah. You can see what you're saying. You can definitely learn John Jones stuff, but I hear what you're saying. Yeah.

Tom Jones was able to sing at the age of 14. And John Jones could take you down at the age of 14. Do you see where I went with that? I get it, dude. Mince it. Mince it. What do you got, Jen? All right, so this is from the Patreon.

Just one of the questions for Patreon, because I checked out what he was talking about, the Red Bull Rampage. Have you guys even heard about this event? No. It's this mountain bike competition, and they do the craziest stuff, so I'll just show you some of these crashes.

Oh, you've seen it. We like the GoPro where it's real skinny tracks and they could fall off the side of the mountain. Oh, but look at this. Yeah, that's not a big deal, but check out some of the other ones here. Dude, please, please, please, please. You got it. You're going to die like that.

You're just going to die like that. Did anybody land me? You know, young men are so out of their minds. You know, they always say men die way more than women. This is exactly a lot. Is that a motorcycle or a bicycle? These guys are so talented. They're so talented.

You're still going. You guys are the best in the world. I mean. Oh. I don't know what to say about that. I don't know what to say about it. What do they win, Chin? Who decides to do that?

Who decides to do that? Oh! Oh! That guy's dead, right? He's not dead. Multiple people were... That guy fell off the side of the mountain. Yeah. Multiple people were really jacked up.

They had to be airlifted to the hospital. Oh, fuck. Well, yeah. Yeah, you've got to have a helicopter arc, several helicopters on standby. And what's cool? Red Bull Rampage. Jesus Christ.

It's insane. Let me see if they win. I think someone is going to not walk away from that. And that's going to be... a thing in the past but you gotta love winners receive a hundred thousand dollars for first place making the most lucrative event in mountain biking dude have you ever seen how Travis Pastrano walks he's 42 he's had 42 operations

so some people are just junkies man for the for the juice yeah this is part of their brain Travis Pistrana jumped out of an airplane without a parachute so he does dude like that's his thing what else he can do uh holy shit First place 100,000. Second place, 15,000. Big jump. Big boost. Like, I, I, I, yeah.

That's not a lot of money after taxes. No. Okay. Please tell me you guys have seen this already, this bishop, Marvin Wynens, this pastor. No. That was asking for donations for his church. No, I haven't seen it.

And so he was asking for $2,000 donations. Oh, God. And this is how he reacted to this woman here. This is going to make me sad. Bernie McCoy, giving faith and stand in unity with the vision of perfected church of sowing this seed of $1,000 plus $235 and receiving the blessings to come to all that participated. Now, that's only $1,200. Yes. Y'all not listening to what I'm saying.

Oh, wow. If you have a thousand plus a thousand. Okay. Well, I'm going to work on the other $800. Well, that ain't what I ask you to do. that's fucked up you know how much that money you know how much money that is for her

you know how much money that is for that woman who's probably a single mom with a child and you fucking want more money fuck you you fucking I hate people and she brings her kid with her I would be like me give my fucking money he's a bitch dude $1,200 fuck that guy that's so much money

that's so much money for that woman right there probably makes who knows saved all that money with that child there and you humiliated her in front of her in front of that child her his mother who probably busted her ass for that money and what's he what's he trying to get he is who gives a fuck he's a fucking false profit fuck you yeah obviously everyone feels the same way i hope he's getting lit up i hope he's getting lit up so he had to make a statement and guess what his excuse was let me let me hear it so let me hear this they went increments of

you know 2,000 to like less and less and less money so he's saying that he didn't want there to be all these people standing in line and getting possibly getting hurt or whatever so he went just by like you know the 2000 first he's the biggest piece of shit there's a con artist are the biggest con men pieces of shit on the planet fuck yeah he's a piece of her son was like what and she still defends him too obviously of course she does because she's embarrassed it's so humiliating for that woman that that woman god knows what she's been through i don't know you pay her bills bitch I want to see what the guy says. Can you find it?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I hate him. I hate that guy. Let's see if he puts it here. Let's see what fuckface says. I don't know if it's going to show it or no. That viral video, he did not rebuke you. He absolutely did not rebuke me.

Now, there's a difference. There was a correction because let me clearly state that Pastor Gave instruction on the lines to get into. I was calling because the whole church was giving, and it was our day of giving, and the whole church was coming, and we didn't want people standing, the mothers and all that, so I was calling them by increments, and we had someone that had given out of before,

and I corrected it, and I told everybody to listen and come when you call, and that's all that was. He's like, I told this, bitch, 2000 or bust she got on the wrong line he's in the thousand dollars he just said nothing you just said fucking nothing bro what happened was you got exposed for being the piece of shit that you are the fucking charlatan piece of shit false profit that you are and a sociopath so fuck you bishop mark Marvin they make tons of money man huh tons of money that guy he was mean to that white boy is Detroit you know poor Detroit is

the fucking land the time for god especially for black people okay so this is uh this is your buddy bradley cooper people are trying to talk about his face now so i'll play a video clip of him so he looks fine there right yeah i know okay let's just play this clip here oh no you know she's been a part of it but i was like you know i was making a star's war when she was it's all good baby she's in and we shut up Hollywood would have do that to you did the forehead and he did the cheeks and now he can't smile or close his eyes part of us it's there's nothing weird about it it's just a part of what we do looks like Wayne Newton it's kind of a nice thing and she cares so much about it and yeah I love it

God I just wish you could have gotten his Airbnb like don't do it dude kids they say exactly what they think and she has a big opinion about everything so I love it and I care what she thinks even with casting We'll look at casting auditions together. God, you're so talented. You don't need to do that shit badly. You look crazy, but. It's just tiny details, too, right?

It's like... No, it's not. His fucking forehead is smoothed at my eight-month-old. His eyes are like... It's not good. And everyone looks like Nicole Kidman. You all look the same, and this doesn't move, and now you're like this,

and then his mouth is weird. It's like we can see it from a mile away, dude. You get to a certain age, I'll look at my face, and I'll just be like, oh, damn. And so somebody comes along and says, hey, we got some stuff that we can tighten things up and make you look like you did 20 years ago. Problem is that, you know, we're not there yet with plastic surgery.

And so if you get a guy who doesn't understand subtlety and a guy who ends up giving you a, you know, it's like the Tom Brady effect where you probably get a little tightening. It's also just not a manly thing to do. It's just some bitch shit. I mean, he looked good. He was handsome dude. That's great. And then now he looked like Wayne N. Slash Nicole Kidman.

I still love him, though. Oh, he's great. He's a true artist. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to say about any of that. Hollywood would have to get you, but who knows. Yeah, I don't know. I saw this, and it's about his Geinow, but check it out.

7 and 2927, all in favor of your winner by unanimous decision, Satria. Oh wow I can say exactly what that is that's called gynomastia Of course That's called Yeah it can happen without

steroids That's what this person's saying A lot of people agreed Yeah they can all agree as much as they want That steroids got bad Yeah because he's ripped everywhere else They got some tits Yeah

And the only way to get rid of that is with an operation I can't believe we fought Yeah And won It's really awful looking that's the worst case i've ever seen that is not that's that's not attractive no these bigger tits in the ring car girls in the back are you like you see you're not allowed to wear a thing right dude like a bra like a shirt you know like the men yeah you know bro fuck no you got to

get rid of that brother you got to take that maybe don't have the money though you know that's what i'm saying you don't have the money no now you're trying to fight i would take that money that i won whatever that is yeah put it right towards an operation I put on the credit card Take these tits The fuck off me I can't go in debt Figging those tits out

Oh yeah Fuck Those are some tits Those are eight cups Don't get me wrong He's very attractive But still You kind of look

Like an older wolf smith Well whatever the case It's not good decisions It's somebody You didn't do that The problem with bro science Is you're going to take a bunch of shit And throw your endocrine system off

Yep You see a lot of when you're fighting? Not a lot. Never. Okay. So this is from MVP. That's Jake Paul's promotion. And this is the first round.

This is pretty wild. I'll just show the video. I do see a flaw in Juarez is when he throws his jab. That's exactly what he's going to say. That's straight right now. That's exactly what he's going to say. I don't think he's good. He has no idea where he is right now.

Lawrence Cole will take a really good look at it. he is not going to get caught with it an eternity of two minutes left too that's a push but that he does not know where he is right now he's gonna throw it he's glazed he's down again he's got no legs right now minus one holding yeah i agree but you also giving him a chance to recover here he's just getting whipped around the ring i think for ladies he can't stand up i think for late he just need to just throw that point he has been knocked down and lost two points so you want to talk about Unique scorecard for a round this is it Scary stuff

Oh come War has actually managed just to land a shot So how about for it's so crazy Because I was just about to call that And boom it lands It was such a flaw You didn't even have time to finish the set Yes someone needs to clip that out

Because that was like Nostradamus right there from you But how about Leighton? No way No fucking way he dropped him I did not see this going that way how tough is that fucking next one kid oh man that's insane

very long time wow that dude's somehow has made it that's a punch behind the head oh that dude's out on his feet holy shit I thought this was definitely going to end a different way Yeah I mean even if I was a rough I would have stopped that

Yeah he got his bell wrong and he was just holding on I would have stopped it's way earlier in that yeah he cleared his head Wow I did not see that going that way good for that fucking kid Yeah Juarez It's a tough town tough last name This is just John Cena answering a question she asked that you do look forward to having kids Before to have any kids? Question mark? Yeah.

Currently, no. Why? Well, from the information that I've gathered, you kind of got to look after him. Yeah, it's kind of... Yeah, yeah. I'll just give you a small insight into my life. I have been working straight for 43 days now. And I'm...

I got another 20. to go. So if I were to bring a life into this world that needs environmental nurture and unconditional love, I also know that takes time. And I've been blessed with some great opportunities. Life has awarded me a chance to do some amazing things. And right now I want to seize those opportunities. That's fair. So I don't want to make an irresponsible choice. You're a responsible man. And bring a life into the world that I will neglect. I don't think that's fair. How old is he, Thank you for being vulnerable enough to allow me to answer and appreciate you. That's a great answer.

My thing is, how old is he? You know, I've been on the road 43 years. You've got to be 50? Forty three years. Forty-eight? How long you didn't do it, John? You know what I'm saying? Like, it becomes a thing where it's like, oh, you're going to stay on the road for how long, bud?

How much money you need? Bring up his network. How much you need to be the attention of your world? You get addicted to the, to the juice. I know, but my thing is like, how long, bud? You get addiction to be the center of your, 80 million. 80 million. Yeah.

How much, now, are you not good? Like, who, what are you doing it for? That's my thing. I have 48. He just loves being able to go where he wants when and how. I think he just loves being the center of his own universe. That's very easy for a man when you're making that much money. But, yeah.

I don't get it. Yeah, no, I mean, you'd have to, once he has kids, he's going to go, ah, damn. Hopefully, some don't. I don't. A lot of people don't. I love it, man. Some people don't. I love spending time with my kids. All right, boys, that's it.

Well, kids. That's an easy one. Plano. It's actually going to drive? November 20, yeah, November 21, 22. I'm excited. Three hour drive? Yeah.

Damn. No problem. I might even fly. But maybe drive, right? By the time I get there, pretty quick. Drive you drive. A 30-minute flight. Naples, Florida, December 11th, 14.

I got to call Jay because I'm actually in Westminster House of Comedy in B.C. November 13 and 14 and 15. And then I'm at Wise Guys Comedy Club in Salt Lake City for Thanksgiving, November 28 and 29. Can't wait to see you guys. There it is, kids.

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