The Fighter & The Kid - Ep. 809: Tim Kennedy - Scars and Stripes

Episode Date: June 28, 2022

Former UFC fighter and current Special Forces solider Tim Kennedy discusses his new book "Scars and Stripes" and talks his tricks for getting his wife pregnant with a boy, his close encounter with a great white shark, the logistics of getting water boarded, why Gordon Ryan is the Lebron James of BJJ, and current events such as the recent rule changes in international women's swimming, Machine Gun Kelly's mental breakdown, Rudy Giulliani's controversial "assault" claim and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Great Tim Kennedy Scars and stripes. What are you looking at his wife? I mean, you got a nice guy because you're not a big fancy guy, but that Rolex. So all my watch. No, no, no, no, so that book the sub no No, this is all this is like SF air stuff the Submariner and the Omega Speedmaster have a long heritage with pilots and special forces Operators so it's kind of like a right to passage thing to, it's not like this bougie thing. It's the one you can't wear that in country. No, I wear like a my Omega Speed Master in country. What do you wear?

I make it cut to me with one of those, I don't wear a wash. It's like what they went to the moon on. Yeah, but like that, you could actually, like the submarital, you could do anything to the best. Yeah, like my, you know, this is the Italian Navy back in the, it's a Hoss 30s, I didn't mean to like lean over in your business, but I'm so so but I don't Beautiful water. Let me let me start this with saying if you were in the zombie apocalypse Yeah, and you have three weapons. Oh God. What are they? Okay?

Well, yeah, great segue good start. I start so if there was a zombie apocalypse would you leave you in a visit line? Well, we're already went through that and my teeth I gave it to him ten more days. Okay, ten more fucking days I got some straight teeth. Carefully see it How do you keep fair pretty well in fighting? Yeah my teeth were good. I'm gonna fight after fighting They're really sensitive. He grinds wait back to this. Yeah. Yeah, please. I would a long range, a long range, like a scar 20S and chambering like a six, five creed more. So it can reach out to like maybe mile, mile and a half, pretty effortlessly, just like a sniper thing.

Sniper round, sniper round with a sniper weapon system, but it's some automatic, so I could put a lot of rounds on target. You know, are we talking fast zombies or slow zombies? We're talking slow, are we, are they slow? Yeah. They're not the ones from World War Z. That'd be a big problem. All right. They're slow. These are the things I think about for me to go to sleep at night. But my thing is if it's a zombie like say Tim turned his zombies pretty fast and had you out like just because you're a zombie

done me you get slower. There's a lot. I would be bored. I would be bored with the slow zombie. So just for my fantasy. Okay, so, so, so, so, Road was the Brad Pitt zombie. Yeah, I want those zombies. I want those. No, no, no, you don't want them, but I'm gonna give you this.

Hold on. They're as fast as a regular human being. Okay. And that's, that's significant. And they're zombies. And they, and they're attracted to sound, and they will eat you. They're attracted to sound.

All right, so go. You got the long, long, long, long rifle. At the end of the car, 20s, 6.5, Creedmoor. That is for sure. I'd have a short barrel rifle, like a 10 inch folding stock. 5x6, 20. Is that like an M16 or M4?

Yeah, but like a short, short AR, a short A, M4. It's a press. And then a good pistol, like the FN LS edge, or any striker-fire combat pistol, four to five-inch barrel, high-maxing capacity, all the bells and whistles as my well. It's the same three guns you would have with you

if you can pick when you're like in Afghanistan or in the cartel. We're really same guns, yeah. Same guns. No, machete? No, machete. You're like machete pistol. Yeah, pistol, right?

So stand off, stand off is the ability to engage somebody without them being able to engage you. Anderson Silva, he had stand off of most people. He could punch or kick them outside of the range in which they could punch or kick him. Like when the Chinese were like, hey, I can take some gunpowder stick in the back of this thing, put an explosive projectile in the front of it,

stand off, arrow, stand off, the Greek with spear, stand off. So you always want that. So like if you have a machete and I'm like, nice talk. You know, it's like, oh, you have a shotgun, cool, I have an AR, cool, you have an AR, I have a sniper rifle. You're like, I just, just, but there are times when you're a close in person, like your book, what I was amazed at,

how many times you're so close, you can grab the barrel, which is so insane. That was not ideal. Yeah, I mean, that's like shooting a single leg on Hodger Grace and he kicks a leg over and takes my back. That was not part of that game. That's why I dice it for you. Yeah, but you figured your way out. Yeah, I did, but it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you've never seen it.

No, Hodger was a bad, poor, holy fuck. Like the best grappler ever. The best grappler ever. And his best position. I didn't know he was that good. 100. No, Hodger's really good. Oh shit.

Yeah, he's the best. Yeah, really? Oh yeah, of the Gracie. Bad plan. So again, like, I don't want to be that close. Bad plan, bad execution. I wish I could like play the tape back again and redo, but there's no mold again.

That's a golf thing, right? Yes. There are things I learned. There are things I learned. There are things I learned in this book. First of all, I texted you when I read it. I texted him. I've, you know, I, it's not a secret. I read a lot.

It's, it's such a well-read book. And frankly, I was very surprised and very relieved. Because you read books a lot of times if it's a friend of yours book. And usually it's not that good. Was that a compliment? Or is that a compliment? I got it.

How do you take that? I don't look even as, I don't look at it. I'm pleas How do you take that? Look, I don't look even, I don't I'm honestly surprised that the whole city is an author. I don't look at you as an author. Author's a whole different skill set. But then look at what he's like. I'll leave it to Tim Kennedy. Hmm.

He's a thinker. You are. You're not only do I have the great chest here, but I have two things going for you. One is your thinker. Two is you are. Your calves. You're incredibly honest and you're very self-deprecating.

So this thing, I, you said you're going to go dark when the beginning of the book. Yeah. And you're going to tell about, very self-deprecating. So you said you were gonna go dark when the beginning of the book and you're gonna tell us about everything. Oh my God. I would say like his failures. Like all those things that went so wrong. Right. Like my mom, my mom.

That's a good point, Brennan. For her church group that's just got this book. And I was like, ooh. Ooh. Can we do not that? They get it, you know? They get it. You it, they get it. You know, little women.

Maybe. What you can never look bad. You can never look bad when you're that honest. You can never look bad when you're that honest. All your skeletons. Well, yeah, I don't know. Online's pretty sad. Like, all sports nigger when they're like,

yeah, he was hooking up with his maid. And then this child outside of wedlock, you know, he cheated on a Kennedy. You know, I killed his book sales? People didn't buy his book, you know that? Yeah, that's my point. Oh yeah, he's like, you can be too honest. He's crying.

There's times I was like, oh point, you know, this book is next to me, I don't wanna look at it, cause you know. But to Arnold's point again, that's basically how to grace you, how in your back you figured it out, cause now that kid got his genetics. He's the only one who got his genetics. just like him Jack wait. Let's go to this

Let's go to what we were talking about speaking of kids Because we were talking about positive guy. Yeah, we were talking about you brought you that's a good point We were talking about how operators like you guys you tip of the spear guys almost always to a like almost always to a man Have girls you when you have children. Yeah, it's always girls. Oh, when they have children, always girls. You know that? High testosterone too. Like most UFC fighters don't have girls. Really?

Joe Rogan sweats testosterone. Ryan Stin has like nine girls. John Jones has like 17 girls. Oh, girl. And I have two boys. Fuck. Because you were not saying you're not tip of the spear. No, or are we saying you're like,

maybe in comedy, you know champion level physique You're gonna make a lot of it, but yeah, I feel like I have a lot of testosterone I have two boys. Yeah, first special forces command They they have like did research trying to figure out you suck trying to figure out what is going on? If you walk into a special forces ODA and you take all 12 dudes and you say, all right, Carlos, how many kids you have? He's like four girls. Ben, how many kids do you have? Three girls. Like, you just go right down the row. If you find a boy in the mix, he is like,

he's held up as like this in Donuts. It's a nice kid. Yeah. Simbles up in the air. I wonder if that's nature's way of saying, there's too much testosterone here. We gotta balance shit out. Yeah. Yeah. Just around it all the time. Like a pheromones or a pump into stosh.

I don't know what it is. That is strange. It's weird. They have a bunch of, but you have boys. No, I mean, I had to get weird to get a boy. They can, yeah, you were saying you have a technique. Would you have a technique?

I don't own the technique. I did research to find out that there was a plethora of techniques. Position? Yeah, position. So male swimmers swim faster, but don't last as long. So like an ovulation, if you come early in an ovulation, there's more time for the female swimmers to make it up there, but if you have,

to make it to egg to fertilize, but if you do it at the end of the ovulation, it's just gonna be the fast boys, and then it's over, and if you didn't get a boy, cool, you can try next time. Position, like trying to deposit deeper, and then, so genders 100% determined by the male. 100%. And body fat, body temperature,

like athleticism, these are all things that skew towards female offspring. Whoa. Yeah. So if you just finished working out, for example. Bad time. Bad time. You want to be on bed rest?

Yeah. I'm man like you's got to be on bed rest. Why reading, how I'm watching Hallmark moment. I took a month off. I flew to Germany. I hung out in like with a bunch of German and Nordic, Norwegian, like do you just look like this dude? Like all of them look like that guy.

But why would you do that just because it lowers your testosterone? Cold cold weather, no hot showers, no briefs, no exercise. You were dead serious about this. You did all the stuff for the boy. For the boy. No exercise. No exercise. You were dead serious about this. You did all the stuff for the boy. For the boy. No exercise.

No exercise. Holy fuck. Yeah. I mean, I did like some dancing, like beer gardens in Jebony, you know, like a good lung in, you know, and like, yeah, I'm like a saying no. I cheat and yoga in the morning. And they got like those little outfits that the girls wear.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you change your diet? Oh, yeah. You did. Yeah. So what's up for the boy? Sharkootary boards, wine. I mean, how probably have you lived? How do you live is what I did to try to get the board?

Yeah, they're prime counts. Yeah, and then like soft. Pins, positionally, I saw the sword for a month to try to get a boy. And then like afterwards, I'm holding my naked wife by the ankles, like shaking her, you're like, go and get in there, see you. Holy fuck.

I'm not joking. And then it worked. And I got a boy. Got me a boy. That's just the one. Check three girls and a boy. He's the hoe. How old is he now?

Yeah, he's seven. Does he have your other, at least? He's a savage. Yeah, how does he not be though? He looks the open scene in the last of the mohikens. We're talking about the cross. Yeah. He plays the cross.

He's got striations on his shoulders. He's got this V on his back. Already. Already. He has long hair that goes down to the middle of his back. He takes off his lacrosse helmet and it's like matted and tangled from being off sweaty. And he just looks like a savage

that's straight out of the last of the Heikens. And it pleases hockey, he writes. Most of the time. And you want to say that loud, but like when my son just had a pool, he's with his buddies. I see my son kind of hockey, he writes, most of the time I get out loud. But like when my son gets out of the pool and he's with his buddies, I see my son kind of like shredding, but I'm like fuck yeah.

Yeah, I do say it all out. I look at like the fat dudes and the fat dadbots and I look at their kids that are lame. I'm like, you guys know what's up. You know? Yeah, you know, look at my boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, and my daughter's just like this tank,

my two big girls are brilliant, you know, and I like, I know we're not objective. No, but I think what you're talking about for me, I've always looked at life as a bit of a war. Like I think beware of your cushy lifestyle because the barbarians are at the gate and they always will be, and they're always coming. Do I need to like drink out of the skull

of my vanquished foe? Maybe not, maybe not. But be ready and be aware. But my foretruck here, that your weakness and your softness is a liability if you're not rehearsing in your brain. That's the way I do it. But also comes in all sorts of different forms, whether it's online or whatever. Well, you and I, but there's a different thing.

So here's my problem. When I think about, I love tough and all that. But being creative and being malleable and being able to adapt to an ever-changing world, being able to learn, unlearn, and relearn, that's a mother fuck. Oh, that's mental tough. That's stand up. I just shot my special eye to throw the whole fucking thing away. That's a form of toughness.

It is. Well, adaptation is the thing that makes humans the most unique and the most evolved thing on the planet. Right, we got our opposing thumbs, we got our canions, we have the sixth sense of like, is that a lion that's about, like we have all opposing thumbs, we got our canions, we have the sixth sense of like, is that a lion? That's about, like we have all of that, right? We understand math, like philosophy.

These are things that via adaptation, we have evolved to become the superior species on the planet. Can a dude go in deadlift a thousand pounds? Yes, do we have people that go and run the Boston marathon at like four and a half minute miles? Yes, is that the same species? Yes, that's wild. First of all, that is us.

But that's us. Do we have the use and the Joe Rogans that can get up in front of a thousand people and be quick and witty and cunning and digging sometimes or kind and clever? Yeah, like that's all, like can I do that? No. You said that to me a long time ago when you were talking about, you know that there are guys that may not be built like you, but they can come into a room and they have such technical proficiency. They can collect all the data on every computer in the room or the guy, the great thing about

your fucking book, when you're going into, if you don't read this book, read into the valley of death and return to the valley of death. That's all you got to do. The fucking nobody's book, Mute Lee. Yeah, it's seriously about that. But when there's a kid in there, put it on the back there's a bridge job. Can I put that on there? Yeah, please.

Okay, I'm gonna do like that. I'm gonna do like that. That's your phone. Leave you like this book. Yeah, leave you like this book. Get the fuck out of my country. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

But there was a kid who was like he spoke Greek. He's just fucking shouting coordinates, and he was calling in the hedgehogs, the AC-130s, and you were talking about how? He's our J-Tech. He's our life. So he, like, think about an air traffic controller, like you're at LAX, that is coordinating all the planes

coming from all the different airlines, the different types of aircraft, the different altitudes that they have to approach at, the different speeds that they have to approach at, all of that is happening. But then you put weapons on all of those planes, and all of those planes have to engage with clear lines of fire, with clear coordination

with all other aircraft. So you'll have an aircraft doing an orbit, then you'll have fast movers that are coming in like this, then you'll have LL copters below them, then you'll have a tens that are gonna be somewhere in between those two. There's a lot of room for error here. Yeah, a lot of equipment.

And all of the different weapon systems that each of those have, imagine if the one orbeen that's like doing an orbit starts letting its gun go, like, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, at the same time, the F-18 starts flying through. Oh, we fuck. Or the patchy helicopter comes through,

or the A-10 comes to do a gun run. Like this dude is coordinating all of that, all the while he's communicating with all of us as to where we're going because we're on the ground, right? So if I go the wrong direction, so like this dude is a sub-vont. I don't know. Jesus.

What was that movie that Brad Cooper who is so gorgeous? Bradley Cooper. Bradley Cooper. He like took a pill in this. Oh, a limitless. Yeah. That dude was like a limitless dude.

Like he like took something. What's going on? I couldn't, there are a couple things I couldn't, I couldn't comprehend. You're fucking going to 80 trucks. You got to feed this FOD this forward operating base a year's worth of supply check this out. They get in there with 80 trucks. They get there 20 trucks. That's right. They lost 60 fucking trucks. 60. You know why the Iranian freedom fighters who are highly trained Mother fuck not tell you about they're setting up ambushes. They know what's coming. And then you got to, you got to answer back.

They're shooting grenades, everything else at you. And that's, when you said that you would hear the AC-130s or the hedgehogs coming in and it was like music. It was the most wonderful sound I've ever heard. And I've heard some wonderful sounds. Like the soft moan of me doing the right thing. Good sound. Yeah. You know, like the soft moan of me doing the right thing. Good sound. You know, like hear that. It was the song. The bird of the A-10 War Hawk.

Yeah, but let me ask you this. So you're a sniper in that situation. You're literally, I haven't seen a movie with this kind of action. So you're a sniper. They're shooting at you. You've got position and you're taking, you have to take the enemy out from a distance like that. So you, the whole time you're looking for your scope.

I stand off. Yes. How much sleep did you get in the, from point A to point, I passed out a moment and I don't know if I was over pressure, altitude sickness, or if I just passed out, but there was a couple hours that were black. And I don't know if I slept, I don't know what happened,

but there's periods of times where I was like, I don't know, I don't know what just happened for the past few hours. No, no, no, I had like, I had bile and dead dude all over the front of me. So there's no like, that was a restful two hours. There's more of like, oh my God, we're back. You had to pull a guy out and blow on half. Oh yeah. That was,

that was another scary moment. Oh yeah, it's not a night. No, I'm in this. This is worse. Oh my God. In that moment, 12 hour, you wake up from a nightmare and you're like, it was just a bad dream. Now this is like you wake up and you're like, oh I'm, I'm sitting first class. Not to be a dead dream.

I'm sitting first class, swimming wine and having fucking zucchini soup on Turkish Airlines. I'm my way to Greece and I'm reading your book and my girl's just watching a movie and she's feeling great. And would you like more dessert? Would you like Turkish dessert?

As I'm reading your, as you're in hell, I'm reading this and I keep, you tell me, you feel more dessert? Would you like turquoise dessert? Or would you like, as I'm reading your, as you're in hell, I'm reading this. And I keep doing this to my girl. I kept going, you gotta read this. Just read this chapter. And she would read a paragraph and she'd be like, I'm trying to fucking, you're killing me. Like, I don't wanna hear about all this death.

I'm like, the best part was this. You guys are in the middle of a firefight. They're in the middle of a firefight. They've just been through hell. The guys trying to kill him, where's this at? This is in the Valley of Death. They just neutralized the enemy. About 400 guys. Where's the valley of death? I've got to stand in the earth's gun. So now it's like now there's quiet. It's never quiet. There's quiet. Now blood, everything fucked up, everything. He's the guns. He's got a major headache. He's fucked up. The gunner comes down. He's got a pistol in his hand. Another badass guy like Mike's.

He's got a Mike's gobble. And he goes and Tim, because he's crazy at this point, goes, what the fuck are you standing there with a pistol in your hand for you fucking idiot? And the guy goes, what did you say to me? And he goes, get back up on your fucking gun. You go, who the fuck do you think you're talking to? And when you go to pistol, he goes,

I'm talking to the fucking, I'm talking to the dick, I'm talking to the pussy with a pistol. And then the guy goes, yeah, how about I come down there? And then Tim goes, you know what's gonna happen if you do? In the middle of this whole situation, the choir professionals fist fight. We're fist fighting. Does he have skills?

And he adjusts save my life. Not like you though. He just saved my life. Wow, wow, we walk up to a door. And I don't know if he had like six cents or whatever, but he like Shove's me is I mean I fly back from this door and the door starts to just shredding 7-6-2 just starts zipping through 7-6-2 5-4 p.k.m. Machine gun on the other side of the door

Sit up. The dude felt it. Shove's me. I fall back. The door just falls apart. We go in, I throw a grenade through this window. A horrible thing happens. Same dude, I fistfight two days later over him trying to get a pistol kill. And he's not sitting on his machine gun. That's stud. That's lack of sleep. That stud, he goes back to Afghanistan.

Three or four more times. Dies December 20th, 2019, on his like six combat tour to Afghanistan. It's Tim, Mike Goble. Tim, that's a fucking thing where some guys have to be close to the flame, they gotta addicted to it, right? And they have to keep being, they gotta be close to the flame.

Or he's just chasing freedom. He's chasing the dragon. Or he's chasing freedom. Okay, could it be both? So yeah, it could be both. There's a purpose, just listen me for a second. Yeah, you can tell. There's a purpose thing here that like,

if I lost the purpose, I would be a crazy person. Of course. If I set, like if I set the store down, if I wasn't fighting for a thing, a reason, a belief, you know, like the American dream, if I wasn't putting myself into that, I would be a horrible person. I agree. I would take

all of this energy and I'd put it into the most dangerous thing possible. I think what I mean is that it's very difficult when you live, when you live an extreme life like that, which is a heroic life, which is also a life that very few people touch, and it took a long time, and you become really good at that. And you develop, I would imagine, like you're saying, it's a six sense, you develop, you're everything on your body is like you'll steal stuff. Yeah, and but also the bond you make with people in that situation, the bond that you make,

it seems like there's nothing like that, right? No, the band of brothers. It's true brotherhood, right? And I think the challenge is always, how the fuck do you let that go? Well, how the fuck do you, that's also in the office, you know, we're near the same consequence,

but similar to UFC, do you? Yeah. Like going through that, like, and you're training, you're in your fight camp, you know, and then you leave that, and you see these guys that become broken, struggle with, like, Jason Manneller,

you could not get a more picturesque breakdown. I love that guy. I, I, I, great person. No, no, no, no, no Jason Mahindler. You could not get a more picturesque breakdown. I love that guy. I like that person. So much talent that he became insane, became terrible, became abusive. You know, like all the bad things that can happen to a human happen to him. Like if he stayed in the fight game,

you know, was not that there was redemption, but could it have prevented him from being the terrible person that he became to? I don't know. But the real sad part on Jason Meham Miller is even outside Dock on, he had a special set of skills. He was very funny. Charismatic.

Charismatic. Clever. Clever. Clever. I'm going to show on MTV. Like, to me, like, it's such a sad story because he had his, he could reach the fucking stars in this business. I think it's possible, and I think that, like, in five,

10 years when we know more about this stuff, I really believe we're gonna find that some people with that kind of head drama just lose control of their brain. Ah! I can do it! I can stand up! But then I just go for control, too,

because I think he, so it's both of us, and we just kill you guys. You guys are getting in the dick with me, and then I'm like, oh yeah, you're funny, you're doing this. You guys could do a lot of damage. Can you imagine how much violence you have? Yeah, he's so funny.

I'm a tag team. When I was with my ex-boyfriend, they made a rush out of me. No, I'm not well, and he had a drop thing out of my house, and it was like me and my girl were watching a movie. I had my comfy clothes, yeah. I didn't know him that well. And he had a drop signal at my house and it was like me and my girl watching a movie. I had my comfy, I had my comfy cozy stuff on. And I answered the door, we both answered the door and we're both like this. And my girl's like roughly about,

you know, this little short of time. And we just stand there like this and he looks at us and he gives us the thing and he's just looking at us and we're all comfy in our little slippers and we're all adorable. And he goes, you know, I could kill you both right now. It's uncomfortable. They're way too comfortable. I drove for my shitty apartment. And he goes, he goes, he goes, you know, I could kill you both right now. It's uncomfortable. They're way too comfortable.

I go for my shoot. And he goes, yeah. He goes, he goes right there, right? And he goes, I can go like that to your neck. I could squeeze your neck and kill you both. And your ex-wife didn't know me at all. She was like, I think she brought a turn on. I think she was like, just.

You're up to have a good night. If you walk in the restaurant, though, and I'll look around and my grandpa is a great generation. My uncle's all were in Vietnam. My dad stole plane fools of cocaine from Pablo Escobar. My brother is of FBI bomb tech. My other brother works for department of energy, protecting nuclear stuff.

My other brother is a green beret. You know what I sit down and I like, and then I like look at a restaurant. And I go, I'm not angry. And I'm not thinking about killing everybody in there, but I'm looking around and be like, I had to. They're so like, they're so useless. They're so useless.

What are they gonna do if I wanted to? What are they gonna do? But if the table's flipped and they're like, do I, I'm gonna try to take that dude's two-year-old daughter? I'm like, first of all, I need to hide this erection because you just made my day. I get to protect my family. I've been training for so long. I thought about the everyday to go to sleep. I've been training for the four so long.

I thought about the everyday to go to sleep. Do you know what it's now you take face off? What you're saying is that societies that have had the warrior class at the top of the, they don't do so well. And what's interesting about the genius of the founding fathers is they said, you still have to have a civilian government

in control of our heroes, our military, because for whatever reason, that is only one kind of strength. And that strength is measured, and it's the kind of strength we love, it's super heroes. There's also the allies. But they have the majority. But there's also other kind of strength to your point,

like what you were saying, also you need your artists. And sometimes you gotta be soft to be an artist. You know, you gotta be, you know, he's funny because as big as he is, I don't know if you know the story Tim, but when we had done DMT with Aubrey Marcus, he took a solution. Shamanistic.

Do you have any of your best for that? No. I won't even get an ice joke. Joe was like, hey, you need to get one of these like a sensory deprivation tanks. Yeah, I can't be alone with my thoughts. Okay, so you, if I was alone with my thoughts with DMT. Dude, I did Joe's ice ice isolation take I jacked off on it. Well, yes, he did all right, okay. All right, so anyway

We end the podcast we just end the podcast. Thanks a lot guys It's so dark. It's warm water. Do not so bored. Do you know I've never gone back into those things because everybody jerks up I'm the only one I didn't know that you animal you fucking animal No glad I did it. You know like I was I was self-conscious that I was like no Joe like I'm not a comfortable. It wasn't Joe's It was in terms of Joe connect just common salt and I was just just a bunch of common salt I'm like how? No wonder I flow so well. I mean that's a little bored. I think viscous fucking shit Well, that's that's the best story. There it's like, yeah, viscous fucking shit. Well, that's the best story to filter.

What was I talking about before I started calling T. Oh, so dude, we do TMT with Aubrey Marcus. And when I say we saw sacred geometry and when somewhere, we did, all right. So it's all good. Next day we do a podcast with Tim Kennedy. We didn't know you. We were just excited.

I know before. Yeah, but I was, you know before. Yeah, but I was excited. And so we do our thing. You show us how to kill, first thing you say is, you wanna see a kill somebody with a knife. I was like, that's good information. A way. A way, not the way.

A way. One of the ways. Sorry to the way. Sorry Tim. A way. Now, now check it out. The next day we're done with the podcast. And he says, he goes, you hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, feel your muscles and we think you're awesome. So we're driving and I'm talking to my wife at the time. And we're driving to Aubrey Marcus's house, to the party.

They're in a party. It's a great house. And he goes, before that, he says a couple things, he's got sunglasses on, he starts going, I just, you know, I'm worried about him and I'm just worried, I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, he goes, and I said, I wanted to go off and feel, and he's fucking die.

I'm talking to myself. Like this and I'm like, I'm like, yeah, no, I know, I mean, but you know, he's on the phone and he's going, he's going, yeah, whatever, whatever. He's going, yeah, I'm like, yeah, no, I know I mean, but you know He's on the phone and he's going crazy. Yeah, whatever. Yeah cool. Yeah, yeah, things to be fine So now I'm trying to explain something I'm trying to explain something And also I just see him go And this giant next to me begins to weep and he's got sunglasses on really oh, dude And it's this and I and I go.

Stop. Now, by the way, I pull up to our wrist, Brian's side and goes, can you not? Oh, yeah, I go. I go, I was like, I can't see. I said, I'm not very sensitive. I go, I have to go because I have a fucking weeping giant

to my right here. And I got to figure out what the fuck is going on. I'll eat clay. Do it. And he's weeping, I don't know if it was the DMT, and I think it was. I'll tell you what, I wanna hear. I'll see you on it.

As he's weeping like that, and now, now, I'll be throwing a Snoop Doggy Dog party. I don't know if he's been to those, it's a Snoop Dog party. It's just, so I can't stop crying. I tell Bryan to go in, don't anybody know I was crying, I'm gonna tell him it's allergy. He was like, dude, I've seen it.

I walk in and I was like, yo, what's up big bitch, crying? Like, I told everybody. I was like, he's crying over Tim Kennedy. I was like, then I got my payback, cause he was friends. He has that sandpid out there and Brian kept saying, you take me down.

And we ruined the party. Cause me and Brian were drinking, and I go, you can't take me, when it's when Trump's like, you can't take me down to, I'll give you, what do you want? You can start everyone trying to take me down. But I don't think, he doesn't think I'm gonna wearing a swimsuit, you can't take me down to it. I'll give you, what do you want? You can start with everyone, try and take me down. But I don't think, he doesn't think I'm gonna go double leg because he's too big, nobody would do that.

He doesn't go, seeing someone go double leg. I've never seen that before. Yeah, I've never seen that before. Whatever you want, Brian. And now, the girls are around us and you can see them and I was like, oh, these guys are, what the fuck? We're trying to party. I'm like, let's just figure this out

and then we'll be right back. We can party a second, I just need to smash this. We're on sand or gravel. Brian decides to shoot a single leg and try to train us with a double leg. And I sprawled so hard on his stupid old face. And old face dude, he's, dude, I had it. His entire face filled with sand, red.

The contusions on this side of my face just left. That's right. You can finally know. Finally, I'm fine. We walk back in the party, nobody talk to us. Nobody rule the party. Because the girls are like They're like sit like just go again like just sprawl hips my face man

Good like that I might my year was probably it was fucking beautiful That party is supposed to talk about like looking frogs and like banging things. Yeah, not us. Yeah Throwing access and find what we've been invited to No, but I think about why I was crying about Tim. Yeah, I remember you talking about DMT. I was like, it was maybe the DMT. I could cry about Tim, it's not DMT. I could, if you love him. Yeah, if you make me talk about Tim,

I'll start crying. I love you. I got mad at me out there. I talked about race, base jump. You're like, don't do that. You're stupid. It's like pissing me off. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know what you do. I think you're really important, Tim. And I don't want you to do any of that shit. I think you're, that's why I was talking about giving up the ghost a little bit. Like, I don't know what you're doing. I think you're really important to him and I don't want you to do any of that shit. I think that's why I was talking about giving up the ghost a little bit. Like I know it's impossible, but I would really like to see you transition into, and you are doing it with sheep dog response, but to see you transition,

I think you're needed as an example, and I think you're needed as a fucking guide for a lot of people because you're one of those people that understands nuance, and you're not like this black and white guy as much as you Probably had to be as an operator, but I think you're an asymmetrical thinker, which is why I thought the book was so good And it was and it was a testament to that no, we need you but we need forget American the world your kids I like that's where I go. I like my kids. Now that I'm a dad that's where I go You're that's what they fucking yeah, it Spartans, don't Spartans know all that?

That's not enough. On Memorial Day, I had family over and a gold star. That dad's aren't in the picture anymore, you know? And that's the pathway in time. Yeah, and yeah, you're right. So often, we talk about the Spartans, the samurai, the warrior class, how often do we think about the second order of effect all of the women and children that

are left behind? It's wild. That's a lot. That's a lot. It's so great. A lot. And they all get together and I see they share over that. I mean, they try to survive.

They try to move on. So sometimes they're together. sometimes it's just sharing resources because you know you're a single mom You know trying to raise your system set up if they pass away were they get funding not really like people forget about so insane Yeah, people forget so in their lives. I mean there's there's there's when you your death benefit if you die in the military in combat You know there's enough to like live for a year or two. That's so insane. But you get that this dad gives up his life for your freedom to get a job. That family's not taking care for the rest of their lives.

It's not. I mean, it's common sense. Yeah. It's American, man. I agree. Yeah. We're working on it. The, you know, not just gold star families, which are families that lost somebody in combat,

but mental health and suicide, it's the highest, it's ever been in military recorded history, you know, 18 to 18. Why is that military? I mean, it's high amongst, you know, everyone, but much higher in the military. Why are military? Well, especially among, like I correct me from wrong, we've never had this small group fighting this long in theater for that long.

That's right. And so, Well, so, so we've never had, we have never had in the history of this country. We have never had men, small groups of men like him, engaged in combat for as long as they are. And when I say combat, doing a lot of killing on target there.

And so that will weigh on any human beings. When you say war, because we pull out the Afghanistan war, which is the longest war, right? So America, but then now, because we're not in the Russia Ukraine war. So we're kind of on our way. We're getting there. We're in a lot of wars, Bob.

We only pulled out in September of 2001 last year. So we had 20 years of guys getting multiple deployments, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 deployments. The most susceptible group to suicide is the 18 to 35 year old, just returning from combat. Like that is the group that was the most, and you think like, that's the war combat veteran that just got back. That's the guy that is the most vulnerable.

Why is it because they're out there pursuing a mission or trying to cop something they get back here and they give us what I'm doing here? Yeah, if you've seen Rambo, they're original OG Rambo, where he's like, I can drive a tank, I can fly a helicopter, I'm useless here. You know, I'm excommunicated, I'm ostracized from this community. I talk different, I interact different, I can't run a business, people don't hire me, I got tattoos, maybe I got a scar from a burn,

I'm definitely scarred inside and outside. I think it's obviously a huge problem with people coming back from tours and stuff like that, but it's also a huge problem with people coming back from tours and stuff like that, but it's also a huge problem, even with professional athletes. If you look at NFL, the average career is like three and a half years, you look at UFC fires, I think average career lasts like a year and a half. So it's like they dedicate their lives

since they're kids to this one particular sport. Then it gets over, it's the same. There's this weird gray area where you're trying to figure out, because that's such a short chapter of your life. So I'm sure they suffer with it too. Yeah, they absolutely do. And you're seeing a lot more NFL guys commit suicide. Well, you know, what I have read about,

there's just, and talked about some of the guys who have gone through a lot of stuff like that, is that the problem is that you nobody is built to be that close to life and death all the time where it happens over, yeah, for that long. And I think there's another thing that people don't talk about, but we may as well, since it's really helped a lot of people, a fuck load of guys in the theater. You know, they've had a lot of help with psilocybin and all that shit, but like this is a touchy thing to talk about,

but I thought it was very important to touch on. When you tell so a lot of young guys, they go into war, let's say they're operators, they become really great. And they go into war and they have a linear idea of like right and wrong, hero coward, America versus bad guys, all that stuff, right? And there's this idea of nobility.

There's this idea, and I don't mean to speak to anybody who's a veteran. I'm just talking about guys. Yeah. So there's this linear notion of the good guys versus bad guys. I'm gonna go do good things. I'm gonna come back to hero and I have plans. Okay. Obviously wars way, way more messy than that way more complicated. And a lot of other things happen that you have to do. And I think the thing that nobody actually ever talks about is there are some people because you're a human being that not only get addicted to it, they start to much to their own horror, they start to kind of enjoy it. They, I don't mean to, this is very touching. So let me just explain what I mean. I don't mean to, this is very touching. Let me just explain what I mean.

If you find that you went to church and you were a good person and you do something and you find that you kind of enjoyed it, what they've helped people do, anybody who's listening, who feels these, what they've helped people do is people who are clinical psychologists like Jordan Peterson go, hold on, dude, you gotta know something. That's called being a fucking human being. And everybody you know, from your priest to your father,

to all the good to your second grade teacher, every one of those people can do that. There is a shadow side to us, and then there's a light side to us. And there are the angels of our lesser nation. And as long as they understand that you're just occupying all of us have the spectrum, some of us are pushing that direction. But once you realize that that could happen to anybody Jordan Peterson said it's important

to understand that you could be a Nazi prison guard and enjoy it. And until you get in touch with that side of yourself you will let like you know what Carl Jung said for a treat or reach heaven heaven, its roots have to touch hell. And until you get in touch with that shadow side, that dark side, you will never understand what it's like to be truly on the other side of that. And that's sort of the, I know it's touchy, I get a little uncomfortable telling,

talking to you about that stuff because I don't mean to be disrespectful about it. Not even up here, but balance is part of it, right? You know, you look at the samurai and the Spartans, they wrote beautiful philosophy and poetry. You have bonsai gardens and zen gardens where they're drawing art in the sand, and they think samurai sword and go law pedudes arm off.

There's balance that has to exist there. And some of the best operators, when we were talking about Mike Glover, that guy has a dark side to him. He's brilliant and he's a great human. And some of the best operators, when we were talking about Mike Glover, that guy has a dark side to him. You know, he's brilliant and he's a great human. But how could you not, though? How could you not be in touch with a dark side?

And when you're creative, you better get in touch with that. That's what they always say. If you want to be a writer, like Stephen King or anybody, you better get in touch with the fucking serial killer in your body because you have them in there. Did you meet my friend Shane Steiner and all of the sudden, you got to get in touch with him. serial killer in your body, because you have them in there. Did you meet my friend Shane Steiner?

And I love you. I love you, I love you. Handsome guy, I love him. I love you. I hate you. So gorgeous. He's like your age. What do you do?

He's just rich and beautiful. He could be one bad event away from being Batman. Well, cool. You know, he's just like, he's good at everything. He's a great shooter. He's a great grappler. And he was a special force. No, country music singer. Oh yeah, by the way, and he sings. I was saying he's the the Bradley Cooper. I was

annoyed about how much good on how good looking he was, but and cool. I was talking to him about about going back into music and he was really reticent because he's a good human now. He's a great father. He's good husband. He's a great training partner. He's good as you did too. He's like, I don't know for me like playing right music, I was a degenerate. I did drugs, I was an alcoholic. That's the stuff that we'll talk about in front of microphones and all the other terrible things that he did, he was like, I'm scared that that's what I have

to be, my roots have to go to hell, to be able to reach heaven again. Well, I think when you get older though, you find great creativity and enjoyment in the in the battle of restriction. I was never but but there's also and then you cut your ear off and paint yourself. Yeah, whatever I gotta do, but every day's a rare with your stand up or your a musician that you touch that stuff that you were doing back in the day when you were wild as fuck. Yeah, trying to rattle the cages. Well, yeah, because you go through these phases

where you go, now I'm gonna be, now I'm gonna be a fucking, as disciplined as I can be. And even though every single fucking day, I wanna go right back to the old ways. You know, and it's like, all right, you know, it never leaves you. I do like, like talking to the young guns,

you see like the guys up in Comer Fighters and they're talking about, like, oh, there's like, look at this ring girl. I kind of would be like, come up with me for two seconds. Let me just give you some stories. Say how that could have happened. I thought I had AIDS. You know, let me tell her something about this.

Maybe not, maybe not. Well, take my blood. I don't think I'm hanging out with you, so I'm out of AIDS. It's like, what? What? What you're trying to hook up with, shit? I know, that's what I'm telling you.

Those chicks might be dirty. They're great. Well, the greatest part of your, well, that one, the other thing I loved about your book is how fucking honest you are. You got two women pregnant in the same month. And then another woman goes, by the way, I have AIDS. Go get checked out. So you're like, I'm going to die.

You imagine you get AIDS. I don't have AIDS. No, I didn't. I didn't get AIDS. I'll cheat the only way you get AIDS. I think she was probably drug youth. There was a variety of things. For the gay dude? Yeah, so it does not happen very often in like vaginal sex between male and female. She might have been fucking with you.

Because you'd be more rough. No, no, no. No, no, no. So can you imagine me at the gym though, and like a girl walks in, she's like, hey, at this fight me at the gym though and like a girl walks in she's like hey At this fight at this night. We like had this orgy and I'm just trying to track down my partners and you're like Oh, yeah, yeah, that was me and she's like oh, that was you and she doesn't remember you first of all that hurts And then second she's like love me. I'm trying to final my partners because I am I am positive with

You said it. I'm trying to final my partners because I am positive with You said it. I'm sorry And so now here was this was a 2000 2000 so before you really had produce inhibitors, you're gonna fucking die. Yeah. Oh, that's a good time. So what happened? I'll tell you what happened. He got naked and gotten Mar-o-bay.

Great white everywhere. It's when you swam. And by the way, it's not working enough. I did. I did. A cold water. So Michael Johnson blends money and injects it. Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson.

Yes. And then I just go take my tiny penis and put it in the ocean. Swim in the water. How far did you swim? Because they took the Coast Guard an hour to find you. So I swim like a 28, 30 minutes mile in open water. So we're two miles out.

That's what we are. You're two miles out. Yeah. You're two miles out. Two miles. You're in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, that's lame. You're two miles out. Yeah. You're two miles out. Two miles. You're in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, that's lame. Now, wait a minute.

This is not developed front-of-low. So to all the young women out there that are talking to a 22-year-old, understand that we don't work yet. No, we're idiots. Our brain is fucking idiot. Yeah. Not in any capacity capable of any cognitive level. I think it's keep going back though, but how'd you be there?

Yeah, so for... He swam. Also, two thousand. Who's the saltwater kills it? We on that night in that orgy did just have like regular sex and transmission of AIDS doesn't happen. As often as like anal or drug... Yeah, actually, actually, doesn't at all. They think barely barely. Yeah, so how she got it, I don't know, I didn't get into that.

But I was sure that she would have any other part of her body, which doesn't transmit. Which some of your HIV. I don't think. Nobody was in her in your body. So nobody, yeah, there's no one's getting behind you. Are you into this? It's pretty mature for you to know that for sure.

I'm just saying. Cover that in the book. You know. But they weren't. What a while. Dude, what a while. My mom's book, my mom's Bible group is reading this book. And the dragon on this, this book.

It's the best book. Wait, so let me ask you. I never got it. Did anybody else get it? Nope. What a while, right? There are some, I could drop ask, so I guess. I never got it. No, did anybody else get banged at it? Nope. No. What a wild diet, right? There are some, I could drop some names

of people there and that night. I would know them, you know them. Oh, I can't wait. Yeah. So, for a year, I got tested every single month. I would have to go into the Quest of College Clinic and have an HIV-Soneurface. Jesus Christ.

You're negative, you're negative.. Every negative, you're negative. You're negative, you're negative. Wait, go and get the blood. Wait, it's not now, like now it's just like, right, yeah, yeah. But the military have to do every year. So you got hit with the AIDS scare and also two different girls pregnant.

Yeah, yeah, hold me. And my beautiful daughter had to go a week's apart. Yeah, they did. But they are made a couple of days apart. Wow, yeah. Tim, it was doing work they are made a couple of days apart. Wow. Yeah. Tim was doing work. And I have to go back to the open ocean

because I'm terrified of the ocean. You swam. We'll shut about the sharks. You go in the middle of the ocean, you just swim out there? In that bay, one of my mom's best friends, Carly Stewart died in that bay. And many, many great white shark attacks

in the central coast area. Won't just happen three days ago. Three days ago. Up there. Yeah. Really? Yeah. And you're not worried about great whites. You're in the middle of their fucking,

you're two miles out. Well, at the time is they, they might be right back yard, or they in my backyard. Huh, who's sitting the sword down. Huh? Do you think I don't think I want to fight a great white? Dude, I love it.

I'll tell you, story I'm going to have in Catalina and Avalan Harbor., I love it. I'll tell you a story when I'm in Catalina, an avalan harbour. And, uh... Great whites. Yeah, a lot of great whites. And I'm swimming through the kelp forest, and I see a bunch of gear ballty.

Those beautiful, vibrant orange fish. You know what I'm looking at? I'm like, it's so cool. And then like a fart in the wind, they just disappear. And I'm like, where'd you go fish? Fish? Fish? There's no fish.

And then I felt the water pressure change. It felt like the water got thicker and heavier. And they felt darker. And there was a juvenile shark. Great white. I'm gonna get a guess. It's like your size, so like nine feet. And I felt so helpless. I went down to the bottom and I sat there

sucking my air like this. Pfft. Pfft. It's my regular. As I was watching the PSI of my air gauge just go like this. And I'm like 700 pounds. And I know I have to go up.

It's probably been 30 minutes. I have no idea where to go. And I'm debating if I can walk or fin all the way back to the beach or not because I just didn't wanna go up. Yeah, you're just not food to them though for the most part. I feel like when you're bobbing on the surface for fucking that long, somebody's gonna be like, he's been a dick. You're coming, he's way out here. My dick wasn't. It was not all the outside of my body because that water is like 53, 54 degree.

That's why they say the biggest problem is the young juvenile ones, because they don't know. They don't know ones, no. They've got the young ones or wild ones. They already know. Nope, that's person. Yeah, that wasn't good. That's not white. Well, not a bit.

It's a little, not a bit. So I went to, I was in Marrow Bay a couple of days ago and I walk up to that Coast Guard station and the door flies open. Like we're listening to you on Joe Rogan right now. It was super cool. And they're trying to pull the log books to figure out who the captain was,

the hub that, think about the audacity. There's a dude that's butt naked. He's been swimming for an hour. He has to be hypothermic. And he's, he's swam all the way out a couple miles from a shore. And you pull up on the boat and you just start, start talking smack. He goes, he goes, what are you doing out here Tim?

I'm swimming. And then Tim, Tim tells him his whole you doing out here? Tim's like, I'm swimming. And Tim tells him his whole life story. It's a girl, probably I made, I got two daughters coming. I'm a piece of shit, I got kicked out of the fucking cops. I'm not a cop anymore. Fire department kicked me out, I have nothing. And he was like, he goes, well that's the smallest dick I've ever seen.

He's gonna offer, he had the water. He had the water. Yeah, totally cool, just a cool, cute, cumber. And he knew what you were doing out there. Yeah, man, I took two days. It was a goal. My goal, I need to be baptized. I needed to like feel, you know, I needed to like,

I don't know, I wanted to not feel the pain of my decisions. I wanted to like, one be like clean and have a fresh start. And I't know and this is where and I have so much sympathy like there was no Point where I was like I'm gonna commit suicide Like that was not going through my head But obviously there's no level of self-preservation This is where mental health where we're talking about suicide prevention and like how Complex and nuance the human brain is where like I'm gonna swim two miles out into the ocean.

That is the active commitment to suicide. But I was not trying to- Love for someone like you. Exactly, I was still swimming. And could I have swim back, absolutely. Did I know which way to go? No, you know? You mean you couldn't see the shore?

No, I swam out in a fog. I didn't know which way the shore was. I didn't know which way the rock was. I couldn't hear the air horn. And there'd be sounds in the water and I'm like, I don't know which way the shore was, I didn't know which way the rock was, I couldn't hear the air horn, and there'd be like sounds in the water, and I'd be like, I don't know what direction that is, I swam directly into the fog, and fog does weird things with your brain,

because it would like refract light and sounders like echoing. And what time is it like five in the morning? Yeah, you would have figured it out though. Coles and Suis, it wasn't a Suis. No, it definitely, to this day, I still say, it was the mental health when you're in, when you're like, like, yeah,

depression, struggle, it's all interlaced and intertwined. So what do you say to people who are like that? Fucking swim, bro. Swim, keep swimming. You know, don't go under, don't quit. I could have quit, right? I was cold, I could have just gone to the drink and been wrapped in the warm embrace of darkness

but or or swim. I don't think anybody who we admire doesn't go through the desert periodically. And we're talking about Andy. Yeah. That dude's face demons. Fuck yeah, you know, like serious ones. And he's stronger because of it.

100%. Like Mike, demons, Evan, Matt, Matt Best and his journey of doing some crazy things, a ranger working with a CIA, like that guy has some baggage. He's not good looking at all of that now. Yeah, but also brilliant, but also has demons. He's also making tons of money.

Yeah, wait. He could do anything he wanted, and he'd make a ton of money. You know, like when he was making videos, he'd be the comedian, he was, he's great. He could rap, he could sing, play guitar, gorgeous. Yeah, I know. He's gorgeous. Yeah, I know. He's got the coffee's fun, the favorite. My old girlfriend called me about him.

She goes, oh, I need to meet Matt Bess. He's the hottest thing I've ever seen. I was like, I don't want to tell you what we want to do. Yeah. So at this Coast Guard station, they take photos, we laugh, we kind of shoot the shit for a second. And then ultimately, I was like, they're children. They're like 19 year old, I don't know,

Coast Guard ranks, they're like an ensign, you know, or like, they're all like privates. And 19, 20 year old kids. And that's an assaulty old dog, save my life. And on the log, you had the date time group. So you had the date and kind of a military. You found the log, it shows you the log. They haven't.

And it had, so like the time, the date, the location, and then the remarks, which was pulled adude from the water. That was it. One of the worst and hardest moments of my life was just a single line. That should be a lesson, everybody. You're a, you're less than a footnote, great. Yeah, yeah.

You're less than a footnote. So keep swimming. Keep swimming. And find help. You know, so that dude helped me. And he helped me in all the perfect ways. He throws this cargo net down with my frozen fingers and my tiny little frozen dick.

I clamber up the side of the boat. And then he takes one of those wool Navy blankets and he puts it over my back. And it felt like a million needles of hot steel burning into my flesh, but it was the best feeling ever. And as he's making fun of me and he gets down, he's like, hey, we're never gonna,

I'm there, we're never gonna have this conversation again. You know, he's like, that was it. That was the extended, like, it's your love, tough love. There's no heart to heart. You know, like, let's maybe like, let me hook you up with a, you know, like, tough love, tough love. Yeah. There's no heart to heart, you know, like, let's maybe like, let me hook you up with a, you know, counselor, you know, let's find some, you know,

some options in the church to figure out how to, no. Nope. I think everybody did deals with it differently, but I think that's so fucking true. I love the expression that, that man, in fact, speaking of HIV, he won a Tony award. Try to bring it up, Jen, he's won a Tony award black guy. He was 75, he was 75,

he was HIV positive in 1989. Ooh, okay. Bad, bad, bad, bad time. And he was gonna die. And one of the first, he has become one of the greatest, he's, when he is, he is Broadway royalty. And he, Mr. Rose? No, I will know his name if I see it,

he made a speech, it's on Instagram, but it's so great because he basically said people who asked who would haul you in his age Yeah, he said he said No, he's broad just put Broadway actor Brock I forgot Charlie just one anyway. He fucking he made his speech and he said Surround he just kind of said this thing. He speaks this way and he's really, you know, and he's a great actor. I think that's him.

Happy I mean, he is. This? I believe that's, yeah. Whenever he made this great speech, and he basically said, this is how it goes. He goes surround yourself. He's an 80 year old man.

He's a, he's been a last man guy. Yeah, no, no, he's black. He said surround yourself with people who light up when they see you. The fastest way to get to where you want to be is slowly. And the top of the mountain you just climbed is the bottom of, is the bottom of the next mountain. So keep climbing. And the way he said it was just, it was just fucking beautiful man.

I didn't do it. Is this him? No. Okay. Fuck Fuck I'm sorry guys. It's okay. It's so good though. He's that he's older. He's really old. Like you older I am 55 my friend. I know it was the guy 55. He's 80. Oh that's so you're you're younger than that. Yeah dude. Yeah dude thanks a lot. There's just you're being a dick. I just wanted to make sure I understood that age time spent. How old are you now? I'm 31. That's what I thought.

I was gonna say. I was gonna say. I'm 31. 31. That's how I'm doing. Yeah. You sure you had 8B? Yeah.

Yeah, he's a famous famous Broadway actor. Is it Andre DeShield? Yes it is. Yes it is. It is? Yeah, just bring it up, because I want to hear it. Andre DeShield. Yes it is. Yes it is. It is? Yeah just bring it up because I want to hear it. Andre the Shields.

I know it's juicy. Seriously. He does the tough mutters with me and crushes them. Yeah he's a big boy. There he is. There he is. Ah! He's looking at a body and be like I could survive off his substance for a good four months.

A lot of other times. Oh half way through the tough mutter. Man. Like look at an L. I'm gonna shoot that big one way through the tough mud. I'm like, man. I look at an L, I'm like, I'm gonna shoot that big one. I don't really do it in cannibalism, but I also look at him and be like, uh-huh. Yeah. I'd be the guy.

Is that ACL surgery on the left knee? Yeah. Yeah, I see that scar. I feel like everybody in a war zone is just a nose hair away from just fucking. Just eating another person. Or just fucking, I'm fucking your body. Just being like, you know what, I love you so much.

Fuck it here. I'm gonna get in those basic needs, Matt. Do it. Just looking at him, I can see how you did the impression of how we do it. That's right, he's this way and he's a great, he's a Broadway actor and he's wonderful. If you can find his acceptance speech, it's fantastic. There's a clip of it.

We only have to watch it a tiny bit. Doesn't matter. I'm kind of pretty cool. Yeah, you got it. You get it. We only have to watch a tiny bit. I'm kind of pretty. I think we, yeah, you got it. You get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to say the podcast came to screeching stuff. I might have been looking for this guy. Nobody knows. Yeah. And he also, the bottom of the, why do you know? Like the top of the mountain you described is the bottom of the next one.

Yeah, sure. It's in a dog's ass. He's book. Yeah. I like. Philosophical. Like Dr. Jordan Peterson's going gonna take it, make it smart, and then put it in his book. That's right. That's right.

That guy can write. That guy? Yeah. The person he was doing this thing, it's like a tiny clip, and he goes, he said, you know, people are always, you know, asking, what is the antidote to the discomfort of life? And I suppose you'd say it's comfort,

but that is what a mother acts out when she swaddles a baby. Another anecdote might be an adventure to excellence. And that's the courage of a mother, right? To facilitate that, to encourage that, a way you go kid, a way you go. And the kid goes, no, but it's dangerous out there. And a mother says, yeah, no kidding. It's more dangerous if you stay here with me.

You go out there, you might lose your body. You go out there, you might lose your body. You stay with me, you'll lose your soul. You know, he is all of the reals length videos of him on Instagram and YouTube. Like that is, that's like the idiots guide to philosophy on my level. I wouldn't got his book like the 12 steps, and it's too much.

Yeah, there's too many words. Yeah, the prince is too small. I've also been there. It's the same thing. And I got all fans to. Yeah, the princess too small. I've also been I got all fans of myself like yeah, I'm not a hair I think I'm a smart person and then I'll read it You don't need it. I do need it. No, you know, I'll just go back to you. I read it. You don't need it. You live it You live I need it Like how the the Google is just in their stereo. Have you seen a drum piece in life? He does those big arenas. No in their stereotypes. Have you seen Drone Beasts in Life?

He does those big arenas. No, he's coming in. Anytime. I haven't had time to go and did Joe, when Joe got to Austin, and I went to one of his comedy shows. The Vulcan? Yeah. There's the first time that I've been to like live, I've had time to go to a live thing.

Hey, Bill, let's take a little break, because we got Tim in here. If you love freedom, which we're about freedom, man. If you love freedom, I'll be in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Is that what we're going to be? Just like Fort Deeds, gonna be okay? How about freedom? That's a Fort Wayne Indiana. San Diego, man Dude, there's gonna be so many military guys there. Yeah, San Diego, July 21st through 23rd then Baltimore August 4th through the 6th. Okay, Apple 10 September 8th through the 10th. I'm in Houston, Boston's all in September Get your tickets at thickboy.com or FATKZ.com Before Wayne Indiana, you're up July 14 14th through 16th and that's San Diego.

Listen, if you want to see me live in my life, you want to see me hunt and python for see me fucking getting water-bordered. You want to see me fighting special forces guy. Best of, that's the TV show on YouTube. Go to Brian Kellen YouTube channel. I got Milwaukeerov July 21, 22, 23. I'm excited about that. Austin, Texas, Tim Kennedy's hometown, July 28, 29, 30. And then I got Nashville, Tennessee, Zainey's,

August 25, 26, 27. Spacane, Washington, Spokane, Comedy Club, September 22, 23, 23, 20. Well, my face. That's a good run right there. Hey dude, how do you stay in shape? Your legs are juicy. Yeah, the juicy plod. Your legs are juicy. You got a tail run right there. Hey dude, how do you stay in shape? Your legs are juicy. Yeah, the juicy fun.

Your legs are juicy. You got a tailpiece on you. You got big strong arms. Dude, I bring some calories. No, no, no, daddy. What do you do? I bring some calories with the Peloton, man. Peloton?

And it's right in my garage. I get it done there. It gets nice and toasty in there. Listen, I love Peloton. They have great music. Whatever you're looking for. Hip hop, EDM, rock, they got it all. But do they have a whole class train or something?

They have a whole class train. They have a whole class train. They motivate you 24-7. When you're ready to go, they have live classes, which I like, but they also have the on-demand class, so if you miss it for whatever reason, you got a busy schedule, it's on-demand. It's there waiting for you. I don't have an hour, dude. I don't have time.

You do, you have 40 minutes, you got 30 minutes, you got 20 minutes, you got 10 minutes, dude. They have workouts, they have it all, man. They have it all. They got the run, if you have the peloton tread, they got the freaking 10 minute upper body stretch between calls. Damn. Yeah, dude.

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Fight for your freedom, so I'm gonna go. I wanted to fight him for them freedom. I'm not entirely sure. Well, it's a matter of time for the government here, so I'm pretty dumb too. It's wild that the new, the NATO line is now at the border of communist Russia. Like, people haven't put that framework into their brain yet.

If you think back to like East and West Berlin, where like Germany was the forefront of Western civilization and democracy and capitalism was in Berlin. And then on the other side of Berlin was Russia. And then the wall came down. Yeah, Mr. Goldstein, tear down this wall. Guess what? That has been encroaching inch by inch In Belarus it's so Ukraine

Crimea so bankrupt. It's so sorry to say it. It's so 20th century, bro Hey, Putin are you annexing territory again? They are doing this. I'll be going back to the fucking 20s They are though. I know and but I wouldn't work out. I know. I know. How did it work out? He's literally, he's about, he's gonna go all the way to the port. You mark my words.

Well, they're gonna get, Ukraine's gonna be a landlock country. 80% of their GDP happens through that port. They're screwed. Now Poland, Finland, Romania are all on the chopping board. I think that he would be asking for, and you would know more about this than I do by far, but I think that he would be asking for, and you would know more about this than I do by far, but I think that NATO has the weaponry and technology

to decimate a serious Russian assault in a place like Poland. Because they, remember this, if they attack, they attack a NATO, but they just took Ukraine. But NATO's a huge difference. Ukraine is not a NATO member. The minute they step fucking foot in a NATO, and that's why Putin said in 2012, the idea that that that that you can is flirting with NATO membership is so antithetical to our it is it is a direct assault on our national

security. And if you think we're going to have NATO weapons on our board, you're sort of the mistaken. Well, now they have NATO weapons on their border. Yeah, they do. He literally, the hypocrisy of him saying, like, I don't want NATO on my border. It's got a relation, he missed it. No, he did exactly what he thought he was gonna do. He just moved, instead of having NATO come to his border, he moved his border to NATO.

So in the aggressor. That's interesting. No. He's not dumb. He's not dumb. He's not dumb. They also say it only has three years to live. Yeah, he's fine.

Oh, damn, yeah. And do what a tyrant can do in three years. He's not dumb. He's not dumb. They also say he only has three years to live. Yeah, he's fine. Oh, damn, you're pretty hard. And do what a tyrant can do in three years. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I could get a lot done if I was. I think it's scary that he only has three years. If he actually has three years, I think he wants to be a fancy bottle. Yes, you're right.

I could use this as a weapon. Yes, well, I'm gonna thick boy, yeah. He could kill somebody with that. Oh yeah. One of the Mike. But I think what's scary if he does that three years, he wants to be like cemented in history. Yeah, so what's the,

he's gonna stop him from releasing the news. Well, I don't think there's any profit in that, right? So I think he's a, he's a cold calculated guy who's looking at the, like, there's a strategy and a method to the madness, right? So now Ukraine belongs to me. Now Ukraine is no longer going to be a NATO member, right? And there's probably some, there's probably a lot of profit in something like that where you can control his

experience. Because the oligarchs are on the fucking run now. They have the oligarchs control. Yeah, but sure there's a cost for skin analysis of like, what is this land worth? Where's the production that's happening on the east side? What is this port worth? Like 80% of a country's GDP is that more than... I would have had a oil price when Russia... I need a flow chart for me to make... Before I started making decisions about how deep into this country I'm going to go, I'd be like, alright, so I would take this manufacturing, this industry, I would take this mining,

I would take this amount of oil... That's because I'm not stupid. No. He's not going on, I'm going to do this, forget the money, he's going, if we get this, suppose that port... I would love to be there take this amount of oil. It's not stupid. No. He's not going on, I'm gonna do this. Forget the money. He's going, if we get this, this was that port. And we're making it.

I would love to be there at the end of July, but. Do you think that there's anything I know, it bugs me out, but do you think there's any, we're gonna film that thing too. No, I can still make that happen. Really? Yeah. I want to shoot, I want to shoot at best up with him

where I'm shooting fucking hogs from a helicopter. What can we, can we shoot him on horseback? That is really hard. Okay. I'm not a good horsebacker for that. Nope, I ride. You should do what I wanted to do with him. I want to get water-boarded.

And I do that on the hard part. But you say that. I told him that. And then when I was in Austin last, he texted me, goes, hey, heard you want to get water-boarded. How serious are you? I'll do it for best of. Okay, you say that.

You say that. Okay, so hold on. I don't know, no, no. I look more into it. I'll do anything for my luck and TV show. Who do anything for the views? So I think Brian might do it. And now only that, I wanna kill hogs, I wanna blow shit up

and I wanna be waterboarding. Now, okay, the first two are super easy. The third, so for waterboarding to really work in this advanced interrogation, you have to like have full confidence that you're not in control. So, if you know that I'm limited to, okay, I can only expose you to this duration of water

at this angle, then you're like, okay, I'm safe. That's not what's gonna happen. You're gonna give it all free. All right, so, ready? Okay, now, you're gonna use your safe word. Couple of times, I'm gonna be like, I don't give a fuck. And then you're gonna do the thing with your hand

to let me know that you reach your break point and I'm like, I don't give a fuck. And that's that Timmy's gonna know, seriously Tim, about to die. Yeah, you still don't give a fuck Okay, that's why I'm not doing it. I don't want to that's just that cuz that's not how it works So I'm already I'm gonna make it so any song I'm gonna hit any stuff in my glove I hope my brother can make it they're gonna hunt me I'm gonna have a I'm gonna air soft And why are you gonna hold with them, but you're not gonna let me I love you to if you want to come and join those guys

We want I'm gonna get three comics. No, no, we want him. He's too tough. I'm gonna get like them, but you're not gonna let me, huh? I'd love you too. If you wanna come and join those guys, I'm gonna get three comics. No, no, we want him. He's too tough. I'm gonna get, like, I can't, you're two. I need guys like, DeLia and Nick Swartz, and I need guys, and we're gonna try to fucking fight you guys for real. I'm gonna have my weapons,

and we're gonna fucking, we're gonna try to airsoft with you and kill you guys. That was a line between Dumb and Crazy is really getting blurred right now, so. Yeah, so we are gonna thank you. Chris, thank you for that. You did fucking well. Chris, you did fucking well.

For he did with his proper head. But he's like, he's losing a waterboard. Oh, you're gonna wake up and Mike glubbered down. You're gonna have like pig blood sprayed across his face and you're gonna wake up and he's gonna be hanging over mouth breathing. You know, a couple of your toes are gonna be hanging from his earrings. Dude, I called Andy, he goes, I got, he came back with a date.

He goes, how's the fucking beginning of August you fucking pussy? I'm like, here we go. It's gonna be sandwiches. Those two are really in the fucking house. The squirrel suit flying through the air like that. It just sounds like so much fun. I just want to see how long it's going to come back. Wait, I'll tell you. Yeah. Do they know where you're at? Like you're like,

I don't know how it works. I don't know where you're going to figure it out. It's going to be sick. You guys are going to last one minute. Well, I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to fucking squeeze off some rounds, bro. No, look at him. Look at him. Look at him. I just want to get water boarded. Just do that. Okay. So how long do you think I could last realistically water being water? So the question isn't how long you could last on the board. The question is, if there's something that I want from you, how long is it to tell you, are gonna tell me. Okay, and I'm gonna do that.

People reach a point where they will say anything, even if it's not true, to get off the board. Wow, I believe that. It's true. I could tell you, I want you to say, I believe that. It's true. I can tell you, I want you to say, I believe that unicorns are real and I had intercourse with one of them. Yeah, that's the sentence I want.

And you're like, first of all, they're not real. Second, there's no bestiality in me that looks at a unicorns, like, that's what I want. Yeah, there's not a bit. Not a problem. And I can't, you're still okay. And what happens is you're drowning you just can't breathe But you're not dying you're drowning and you are dying you are done Yeah, you just can't keep pouring water and you're not letting me fucking no no, and I mean

Verded but you give me breaks obviously no, I mean depends on what I want to do His hands and so I got you're already grasping for the rational safety measures that are in place and I'm talking to those, no net. That's not really fucking scary. Cause I'm getting claustrophobic thinking about it. I could not. I'm claustrophobic.

Yeah, the wet towel over your face, you know, the water at the angle that you're at going back up into your seat. I saw you get done. You're trying to blow it out. Yeah. Do you see my friends? They were using a bucket and they're like,

forget the bucket. They pull a hose out and use the hose. Yeah. Those are my friends. And they're trying to blow it out. Do you see my friends? They were using a bucket and they're like, forget the bucket, they pull a hose out, I'm using a hose. Those are my friends. And they're trying to break it. They're horrible. They're not real friends. They can't break a rock.

That's gonna take them a long way. They can't break a rock. Hey, so horseback, we have tried the javelin, spearing horses off horseback. Horses get super spooked around pigs because they smell weird. You don't think that we're crazy people. We are true conservationists.

I'm talking like we love, I love protecting wildlife. I just want to eat pig. I want to eat these pigs. Oh, you're not? No, you don't eat them. We're not good. No, these are. Well, they're trash pigs.

They're gross. Trash pigs. Trash. Trash. Are they why? Come on, dude. Because they're like the rats. Right, but still, the rats, it's still a yummy pork and bacon.

No, there's no bacon, there's no fat on them. They're all muscle. No, no, they're all like worms and pesticides or pesticides and disease and rat poison. Oh, trash pig. You like cut one open, there's like this weird blue meat, like what is this? Like, oh, they ate some poison,

they ate some poison out of a field. And like, oh, just turn their meat blue, like yeah, yeah, you don't eat that part. Wow. And then you like cut a little bit more. And there's like maggots crawling out of their skin. You're like, giddet, fuck.

Trichanosus and shit. There's nasty. They're nasty. They're rats of Texas. And they fucking breed at such an alarming rate. You can't show your way out of it. They become fertile, so young, and they can have so many litters.

And each one of them, in a year, they can have multiple litters in a year, and then everyone of the litters, they can have like eight, 10, 12 pieces. I watch on YouTube, but they shoot them with night vision, just like, they shoot them with everything. And there's not enough.

Like there's not enough shooters, we're not stopping them. They're still mass producing it as well. We went, I went Python hunting in the Everglades because it's a big thing. Yeah, we got an 11 footer. Did you find it? Did you find it?

Fucking great. So one of my dreams. It's not that cool. I want to be riding and motorcycle on over like this overpass over the Everglades. You know, there's like overpass overpass. And I see, you see him for a heartbeat. Yeah, it's $1,000 if you get him too for the skin.

Yeah, and just like ditch my bike and free fall under the back. You don't know how big it is. It might be four feet, it might be 40 feet. And jump on the back. Splash. They're so strong. They're all muscle. You get an 18 footer, you can have your hands full.

Tim Kennedy, even Tim Kennedy is gonna have his hands full. I said 40 feet, boy. 40 feet, I know it's not a 40 feeter, but. I would have kill, kill, kill, kill, 10 by, no, if you, I mean, it's, no. You're gonna grab my head, but don't bite the fuck out of you. A big one, a fully grown, and 18, they're gonna go bite their heads so hard.

They're bigger than your head. No, they, they, um, that show, uh, the toughest bite of whatever, on the channel. Last episode, season finale, they get bit by all these, like bugs and shit. Last one, they get bit by a python. shit. Last one they get bit by Python. Yeah.

And the guy put this arm, it destroys his body. Python count, and he caught an 18 footer in the Everglades, 18 feet. That's a giant snake. That's a giant snake. Bro, it bit him and opened an artery. Yeah, yeah. And he was almost blood out.

And then he took him, he wrestled, he's my size. Not a guy with your size, but it dragged him into the swamp, took him an hour to wrestle, I think it's on, it's on you, it's on you. He pulled him into the water, right? That's what I'm scared of. Well, there's still so fast in the water. The 11 footer I couldn't fucking get.

What do you want, just the 1000 bucks? Well, that thing's worth a lot more. That's how it makes his living. Oh, good. But there are major invasive species, there are huge problem in the Everglades. So they just pay people to go hunt them. All these invasive species may like, they're fun to hunt, but people don't understand how

damaging they are to where they're going. You're like, let's just say you're a duck hunter. And you're looking at what is happening along the Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana coastline and destroying the deer population. Raccoons. They're taking nutrients out. They're taking all of them. They're destroying everything. The micro-ecosystems of each of these respective little tiny states are just getting demolished by these things.

Finally though, finally the animals that birds of prey and stuff are starting to go play bad. Here's what's really fucked up in Burma. They have 40 eggs. For whatever reason they ever ever, they have 80. What? Yes. So now what they're doing, now they're osprey and the hawks they're going,

you know what? Little bird-o-s. Those are eggs. And now they're finally figuring out there's food here. And now they go, those little snakes, that's food too. So they, you know, I went squirrel hunting in Nashville with hawks. The hawks would fucking catch,

they just kept catching snakes. They kept grabbing snakes, huh? Or squirrels or problem in that? No, but it was a thing I got for Valentine's Day. You went hawk hunting. You took Hawks and hunted. Yeah, and I felt bad. You don't hawk?

I didn't want to kill the squirrels because I'm not going to eat the squirrels so I didn't like the squirrels. So on my folks property, we massacre ground squirrels, so I didn't like it. So on my folks' property, we massacre ground squirrels because they make holes, the horse step in and the cow step in and... Groundhog? Groundhog?

You mean a groundhog? No, it's a ground squirrel. Oh, it's actual squirrel, though. It's a squirrel that lives in the ground. And it looks like a groundhog. But no, it looks like a tree squirrel that lives in the ground. Big bushy tail?

Yep. You hunt, yeah. Yeah, they're right there. You're a hunter? Yeah, I was it looks like a tree squirrel that lives in the ground big bushy tail. Yep. Oh, what you hunt? You hunt yeah, they're there. You're a hunter. Yeah, chip that The number three is like the most akin. Yep, that's the right one and that yeah, the big fat one Oh, man, look how to control ground squirrels all that guy right there He's that what you went in on my computer This might we don't have to add this out But also if you think about a score, there's big bushy tails, kind of like a peacock.

Squirrels are just like transgender rats. Just like, you have to have that out, champ. Do we have that out? I think so. Fantastic. I think it's a beautiful set of it. It's a fantastic observation. I just think it's an honest observation.

I don't think it's, and if people are offended, transgender activists are probably not watching the fighter and the kid kid and they're probably not reading scars and strides say to I hope you yeah, I hope they read I think there's some great take a ways for all race religions not that pretty That that guy I hate that guy right there that guy is gonna know. Yeah, he's gonna break my horses late It's fucking kill one of my steer man We we did this rib roast couple of nights ago that was one He's gonna break my horse's leg. That's fucking killing. One of my steer, man, we did this rib roast a couple of nights ago. That was one of the steer on my dad's property. Like we raised it.

Yeah. Grain fed for the last 90 days. It was grass fed, it's whole entire life. Wow. You know, it's like walking around with wild tuli elk, wild pigs, you know, up in Monterey County, California. And then for my niece's high school graduation, which happened this weekend,

we cooked a rib roast from one of our cows. It's rad. It was delicious. Oh, so good. You know what, one's so good. Sporting event, Tim can't do. Full ball. There's lots.

But there's one thing he's not good at. He's not a football. No, you have to let him. He can't throw a ball. So guess what? You like Brian Calan? Let me tell you how wrong I am. Do what I did on this book tour?

I threw the first pitch. For one of them. Did you hit the catchers, man? No, so the triple A. Like right before they go to the pro's. It was harder than it looks, right? Well, I'm not gonna dignify that question, which was kind of insulting with the response.

I'm gonna go a different route here. I took me one day, I threw a 62 mile an hour fast bar. Oh, shit. And I took a day to learn how to do the whole wind up, how to on the pictures mount, how to place your foot on that little rubber bar thing. Because you're up on a mountain. You can like, people don't flip yourself.

You can use gravity to fling it. Yep. What is that? Oh no. I don't know. Oh, I just look at you. Huh. I just post. You're a gorgeous man.

Where are those little man-lots of hippos? Where are those little hippos in your back? Cause that's in the bathtub. So I have a lot in common with hippos. I think they're my spirit animal. When I look at all the similarities, like if you did a bend diagram between Tim Kennedy and a hippo,

like they like the water. True, they're thick. Yeah, they're thick. They like their family, they're kind of territorial. Yeah, they'll murder you. They'll murder you. You know, you mess with their family, they're gonna take, it's on.

They're gonna kill you and everything near you. If you're seeing the videos of an alligator that gets into a group. Crocodile, yeah. You just see like a part of an alligator flying through there. Well, how about the gazelle? The gazelle's trying to run away from the fucking wild dogs. When the girl's like, these wild dogs,

I'm just gonna sit in the water. I'm just gonna come down to the water. And the hippo's over here. And he's like, I'm just gonna hang out here because they're trying to eat me if you don't mind. And the hippo was like, well, here's the problem. You're in my water. It's my water. Yeah, and you have fifth tree bites it around the fucking neck and just Just rounds it or they stop them out. Oh God. I enjoy good stuff. Brutal so Your baby hippo. There's a there's yeah, I just sympathize with them. Yeah, they get they get a bad rap also

It's not the kill the most human thought it killed a lot of people mosquitoes. Yeah, and they get they get a bad rap also. That's not the kill the most humans that I've got a lot of people mosquitoes. Yeah, you like to buy this feel They feel so good He is good. He should be your model for the same. I swear. I got to do you think my feet are okay with that though I I love because I got that I got the rush. I got the been wearing too many wrestling shoes. Yeah, so it goes in You know wrestling shoes are really you wear them really tight. Well, that's why I want your feet. I want your toes to play.

That's why I wear them. But because you say you're like skinny and dainty and then his are like straight. He's got troll feet. But that's what you want for your model. Yeah. You're the people that have obsessions with feet. There's a whole subculture.

Yeah, good for you. Dude, that is why you look at him for it. Well, because there was a lady in a seat named Kat, she started only fans of her feet. She made so much money. She quit. Yeah, people love feats. That's wild.

She made so much money. If I start a fan's only for my feet, too, we should hire you as our model. Tim Kennedy, a mountain model's football. You know what people are not by your side? You know what one's nine pairs? Tim, I mean, Andy Stumpf, he's getting married. And he ordered a bunch of blue crocodile,

saltwater crocodile, I don't know if I can, for his wedding, his whole wedding party are wearing blue, that is so funny. They're all wearing toehole. I hate him. I suppose to go hunting with him, stalling hunter with him, I suppose to go to a podcast,

have a bit on podcast, he's opening a black rifle. I didn't get to invite, I don't know if it's open yet. I don't know, I'm doing, I suppose, I've only done jujitsu with him one I didn't get to invite. I don't know if it's open yet. I don't know. I'm supposed to. I've only done jujitsu with him one time. When he came to Austin and I had to have him come to my gym for him to do jujitsu with me.

What build is he's a purple ball I think. He's not a Tim's level, but yeah. No, it's tough. No, I don't know what you can't say that anymore because I'm in a room where everyone's better than me. So I don't know, are you being honest? You're honest, though. We're right.

Well, compared to those guys, that's all they do, though. That's the language. Yeah. I don't know you. I like that you're trying to say that I'm being humble. I've seen you being honest. Everybody. I'm saying I can, there's a difference between hanging.

Yeah. And then like Gordon and Ryan being like, hey, I'm gonna roll with you because I'm cool. You're a different thing, right? Yeah, right? Freak. Gordon Ryan, like when he rolls with me, he rolls with me to be cool, but he could kill me at any moment.

Yeah, he's so mind-blowing. He's our LeBron James' jiu-jitsu. Levels, look, levels. He's the game, yeah. You have to hit him. Yes. But then you got like the Steffen Currys who go and they'll hit an outside shot on LeBron James.

Nobody's gonna hit an outside shot. No. On Gordon Ryan. Nobody's gonna do it. There's nobody that's gonna touch him. There's nobody that's gonna score a point on him. He'll walk up and hand this, you know, Fabio dude over here with like, this is how I'm gonna choke you. I'll gonna score a point on him. He'll walk up and hand this, you know, Fabio

dude over here with like, this is how I'm gonna choke you. He'll hand it to you. He'll go and hand it to the refs and then he'll go beat him without moving. So without, because he gets modest, but I've seen him tie up some really good guys. You, be honest. Yeah, be honest.

Okay, like, he's not over 30 years. He's not doing that to you. 30 years? Uh, 15, I'm gonna black belt for 15 years. No, I know how good he is as a grappler. So my feeling is that, so he can do that to you. 30 years? 15 years. I'm gonna black out for 15 years. I know how good he is as a grappler. So my feeling is, so he could do that to you? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, do you get it right in this room? You just don't know the levels of Jits. I've seen it a little bit. I'm telling you not going right. Yeah. At a high level. Even like, what is it?

Just his just, the hierarchy of... He's the tip of the spirit. And he makes a living off. I just feel like a guy who's seen that much like you guys have seen that. It does work like that. It does. It's all he does. It's literally all he's consumed in it. It's all he does.

And everyone on the mat is like that. Everybody on the mat is like that. No, no, real cool. How about him teaching a sheep dog response? Yeah. I was watching on YouTube and he gets the guy and he's like this. He takes his finger and he goes, you're blind, you're never seen your kids again. I'm like, Tim, you know, but that's real.

He's got the guys, he goes like this, he goes like this, he goes, if I see anybody pull a garden here, I'm gonna send you right through the fucking wall. He's just beating like a guy. This is life, like, jujitsu. Sports, jujitsu guys will come in. So I was in New York teaching a self-defense course

and we had guns, like training guns and knives all over the mat and the central Gracie guy dives underneath and is trying to grab a leg lock. And I'm sitting here with a gun and he's still like digging, trying to get an angle to try to get a hell hook and I'm just like, was the gun tapping him on the forehead and he like looks up and he like, you see the focal shift from my face to the gun and then like back to my face and then you see the realization

like it actually connects the myelin the the neuroreceptor's used to jump in for knee and I'm saying you're tapping him on the head with a gun and she's still like trying to play with my ape legs and he like looks up he's like, ugh, ugh, ugh. Like, yeah, man, that's not gonna work. Your happy place is not good here. So there is a big, when we're talking about Terrentactical and Shooting, can the sport shooter become a combat shooter?

Absolutely. The huge overlap, tons of great sport shooters become combat shooters and combat shooters also compete in sports. Could a really great grappler transition and be a really great MMA fighter? Absolutely. Could a really great MMA fighter go and hand him a brick and become a savage? Yeah.

But guys that become so pigeonholed into the exclusivity of the sport aspect. They're in trouble. They're in trouble. To that point. To that point. To that point. To that point. Yeah. Like those guys are diehard jiu-jitsu guys go to MMA and they don't work on the other stuff.

That's just jiu-jitsu. They get, I mean, Hadoffo, Vera, Bouchesha, Chrome Gracie, like you'll get the tip of the spare guys, Haja Gracie, you can't do all of it, eventually you're gonna come along and you'll get fucked up. To your point, like, you know, Tony Blower? Oh yeah.

Tony's a buddy of mine, Tony was teaching, so this air martial was group and shots just, bop, bop, just an amazing shot with a pistol, right? And Tony goes, okay good, good. Now he gets behind him and he goes, now I want you to do the same thing. And go ahead, but at some point I'm gonna hit you. And the guy was like, what? He goes, he goes, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna hurt you.

Now he's not gonna hurt you, but I'm gonna hit you. I'm gonna grab you somewhere. I'm gonna, I'm probably gonna hit you in the back at some point, but just go ahead and do the same thing. Did you, like, say, like, people running past you. It's real, it's real. So, that's what.

Now, the guy, the guy, he can group, air marshals, he'll know, they can group, and they can just see, right? And now he does the same thing. His shots were fucking all over the place. You added one external, you added one external consideration. You take a guy out of a vacuum that can perform just in the parameters of what's, like he's comfortable with.

Can that, like if I take a race horse, you know, get somebody getting ready to go to the Derby. I mean, talking to the most elite thoroughbred race horse, and I take him to war, what's gonna happen to that horse? He's not gonna be the fast horse. No, he's going to be dead. He's going to go, he just get that good warm up, he didn't get his good grains, you know, and it's steroids.

Yeah, it doesn't have any of it and it's broken and harpy. And that is, it's performing in a very specific way, in a very specific modality, in very specific considerations, in very specific considerations and very specific conditions. Like similarly with the combat shooter or the fighter, or the sports you did to guy, if he doesn't have all of the conditions right for him to be at his best, is he really that useful in the combat sense? Yeah, well in your book when you had a guy's body, you're trying to save a life, they're shooting at you.

You don't have this, you're not doing this. You have one hand trying to squeeze off rounds. No, I had my sniper rifle. I had an SR25 sniper rifle. With the suppressor sitting on the end of it, with a 12-to-12-pillen stick. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like this as these dudes are running across as I'm carrying a half a body that's dumping

bile blood and poop all over me. And that was bad. Yeah. Bad thumbs down. Thumbs down, that one. Bad huh? No. I can't sell that say the dude's name.

My name is Mike K. Mike K was sitting on a Modju's 50 cal machine gun on the back of a Humvee. And when I jump out and I run down to the Humvee that just got blown up and I'm dragging this guy's body out. I didn't want to go down there by the way. This other guy, Irish, ran down there to get these guys out. And I was like, don't do this.

This is, no, please no. And he goes anyways, because he's a total hero. And so I didn't want him to go by myself, so I go with him. And we get down there and when you have an ambush, you have a kill zone. And we were on the kill zone, we got blown up. Everybody pretty much died.

The few of us that made us off the kill zone, we are now running back down into the kill zone, which is not where you wanna go. The last thing that you do in an ambush is you assault. If you're the one initiating the ambush, you assault across the ambush line, killing whatever is left there. So we run down to try and rescue the guys

that are on the kill zone. And I'm trying to pull his body out. And these guys, the Taliban, the Iranian, I call them freedom fighters in the book and I really regret that I called them that because that's what they call themselves. They're not. They're just assholes, right?

Yeah, just horrible people. But they're highly trained. They are. And funded by Iran. And Sulamani who he killed a couple of years ago, he was the guy that was funding them. So I get this body out and I'm trying to get this guy and I can't get my gun around. I'm gonna die for sure and might K with the 50 cow. He, I don't, divine intervention.

He was able to weave bullets that are like this. I felt like I was getting hit with Chuck Ladell overhand rights as these rounds were flying past my face. Because you can feel the energy? The overpressure as these rounds are going around and through us and between us and vapor, like there was a bunch of Taliban's over here and then they're warned.

And it wasn't like in the movies where it was like pink mist, I'm just saying they evaporated. They just disappeared off the face of the planet. That's how it's called. 50 Kalmashing gun. And he wasn't but like a hundred meters from me. Tuk, tuk, tuk, tuk, tuk, tuk, tuk, tuk, threading rounds.

That's accurate. That's what I'm talking about. tuk, tuk, threading rounds. That accurate. What a bad, was he a special forces guy? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, Mike. Yes, yes he was. But he's also really. I love you bro.

Love you. Thank you for saving us. That is fucking, what a bad, over pressure because I never thought about this either. You had such a concussion from just the sounds. And I guess when bullets are close to you, they move matter, or like they, what do they do, they displace the air?

Yeah, so when you're shooting a sniper bullet, you can, so as the bullet is traveling through the air, you can see the air be displaced by that bullet. So let's just say I'm shooting a 762, 762 by 5.1, a .308. So that's a 175 grain bullet that's traveling at 2650 feet per second. So that is a chunk of metal that's 175 grains traveling at almost 3,000 feet per second. How much vapor is that going to displace?

How much air is going to be moved? Air has matter in it, right? So as that matter is moving, we call it trace, the vapor trail of that bullet. I can see exactly where that bullet is gonna go. Well, that is a bullet that is only 175 grains. You get up to like a 338 Lapua. Now, or 250 grain bullet, you get up to a 50 cow. I'm talking like a bullet that is this big.

It's like a 50 cowl. I'm talking like a bullet that is this big. It's like a battery. Yeah, chucking a D cell battery at 3,000 feet per second. Yeah, you can, you can, you hit somebody at a mile away and they kind of. Yeah. Now, B, you were talking about him being your model for a total, a small problem. I don't know if you guys budget, but I'm his manager.

Yeah. What the fuck is this? I don't know if you know how much I'm his manager. Yeah, what the fuck is this? I don't know if you know how much money daddy makes. I need a couple. Can I talk about it? Unless we got eight figures. Yes. Yes.

You can need two commas. Two commas? Two commas, two commas, two commas, two commas, Tim. Sorry, that's not me. Two commas, Tim. I'm the guy around here. Can I get a bottle? Can I get a bottle?

I'm totally in. I'm excited. If you in combat with those fucking things, I love these so much. I can't wait to represent these. These are going They do fantastic. Yep. What would I do? Commit him. He loves them. They smell like that. That's top grain leather to come a 10 to come a 10 to come a 10 All natural to come a 10 Yeah, maybe you know what you're fucking worth it and by the time we sign the deal. He'll be on New York's best I'm already in okay. Well now we're talking about three comment to two two weeks

That's three comments. What number one audio book on the planet planet still I mean what do you want to do? Okay? What can I can I do a layaway plan? Yeah, I like this hardly I like this badass version I'm scared actually be a good you imagine being on the opposite end of the table negotiating with Bryn Schaul He's very good very good man actually I'm a little I'm a little bit. I'm I it's a good cop backup. I play back up Cuz I hate everybody has to be back top lately. No, I don't play it'll be back up. Yeah, you got marks But I don't like calls. That's it cuz I would always the one if I like crawled over Brandon tried to kill you right now Yeah, who in this room would come to your defense? Well first of all first of all

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The story didn't cool because that's hard dude. I'm gonna go the other way. Yeah I'm gonna go the other way and how are you gonna fucking come at me right now? Yeah, I'm a humanity without much effort effort Dude my heart is fucking up. Oh, it's so guilty. That story makes Tim wanna kill you more Yeah, you know one time I was joking around I said I said to him I go I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna grapple with Tim and And you and you you thought I was serious You went like this you know no no no no like that. He goes no. He'll kill you I was like fucking joking dude. I'm not gonna actually we can't totally grapple though. Yeah, yeah, I'm a little delicate I you hurt my neck or something like this neck up. Jen. What are you doing?

Oh, no, yeah, no, Tim Kennedy Oh no, I'm not gonna join Tim Kennedy Tim wants to Tim wants to kind of do just cut the water bore be a big up because I'm just I'm just I'm just such a target right now I got to Calabastas I was looking for a jim looking for a gym I didn't bring a deep enough and I have all today So I could wash my ghee before I get to go to the bear a little bit I'm putting my fingers in there. I feel it. I know you keep you keep keeping these back in a couple of minutes and I think But I'm like I'm gonna hit you the back of my hand. He looked at me like, I do it to my side.

I like his face and then I slap his face again. Is your son in Jiu Jitsu? Oh yeah. Yeah, that's it? Yeah. He likes to cross more. Do you have a, like when you go, because I'll have to take my sentence

just after this. Yeah. When the coaches are coaching, do you ever have to step in? No. You just let it go? Yeah, I'll do it afterwards. I'll like, come in.

Yeah, yeah. So you take that and how I do it? I do it. Let me show you how to get just let it go. Yeah, I'll do it afterwards. I'll like come in. Yeah, yeah. I'll take you to that and how I do it. Let me show you how to get BCD to eat. I had such a problem listening to my dad that my dad used the coaches as a way to actually communicate to his stupid son. Oh, interesting. And.

Because you would find him. I was just so rebellious. I was such a second born. I'm so stubborn, you know. And, and so. You must be in a pain in the ass. I was just so rebellious. I was such a second born. I'm so stubborn, you know. And, and, and so. You must be in a pan the ass. I have such respect for coaches there. I, I don't know if coaches really understand

how important they are right now in this era. Agreed. You know, in, in, in participation trophy, and no, no, no, no, I know you lost, but you did really great out there. No, you didn't. No. You know, like be a better coach.

Yeah. I'd be like, do you know what? You didn't practice. You weren't doing your wall ball drills. You know, you wore out. You didn't get here on time. You didn't do the warm-up. You know, that's why, and then you're mad at me because you're not playing. Like, those moments are so important right now. And, and so I look at my son even though he is a great, and even my daughter who's doing Jitsu, and I let the coach coach. And if I have to coach through the coach, I do that. But then if I need to give my son a little extra, okay, so a snap down,

is it you pull on the back of his neck? It's called a snap down. You pop the back of his neck and bounces forehead off the mat. That's how you do a snap down. See my son, he's such a good listener. He'll listen to me. He'll listen to him. He'll listen to

He's getting to a tee to a tee. I'll go baseball grip when if someone has back like two on one over it. He's coachable as a fuck. Wow. That's coachable. Yeah, I was too dumb. I was talking to myself. He's snap his fucking neck down.

You take his face. You make soup. You make soup up. You make soup up. He makes you his teeth throw on the mat. Success. Some of the straighter looking final fluid. Yes, you're soup. You make soup up to face. You do make soup up to face. Like his teeth are on the mat? Success. Right, some of the straighter looking final fluid. Yes, you're doing this to your milk color.

It's kind of creamy. Yeah, but it's intense. Yeah, it's right up. You're looking at me like I'm fucking in the gazelle. You're alive. You're looking at it. You look a little carnivorous right now. Dude, we don't like your initial offer from Toll.

I didn't even give them, oh, I'm just saying. I need to give them to their limit numbers. Bump them numbers up. I'm gonna bump it up. I just want your give them all. I'm just saying. I need some talent numbers. Bump them numbers up. I'm gonna bump it up. I just want your feet to spray out a little. You're wearing shoes that are bunching your toes. I need them. There you go. Yeah. I am looking for, I'm gonna wear those other shoes too. Those are nice.

Yeah, I don't actually don't own a pair of nice shoes like that. I figured you did it. I don't want. I don't want to. That's fun. They felt fantastic. Yeah. So when I have to cover my feet, because I think I'll not be allowed to, like New York. You don't want to wear sandals in New York? No, I'm trying to.

I don't even like it. I wouldn't want to wear sandals in New York. Looking at their streets. Yeah, you get for sure. Disguised. You get AIDS back when you're 22, you get it now. You get it now. We're in South.

Whatever age I am at now. Yeah, we're on the surface. New York is back to being clean. We're on the surface. I'll be there this weekend. It's back to being clean. I think that's the time you went there. No, I was just there, but really?

I was there at the last year's film. No, I would say no, it's filthy. It's better than it was. Better than the childhood was all fucked up. It was definitely clean and clean. It's so much money and it's so much fucking money. There's definitely places that are super nice. Goddamn, Greece was nice.

Fuck. Greece is like... I'm watching you, man. Yeah, great segue away from New York into Greece. The delta between those two are these gigantic, profound and secret. I just was rereading parts of your book and I'm in Greece and I felt like that.

On a yacht and I felt like the biggest bitch. Just a bitch. I know, are there nice parts of Afghanistan? Yes, there is. Really nice parts. Yep. Tell them the story about just, can you take us through what? You've been through this firefight. It's been the most horrific thing. Yeah, it was bad. You're coming back into the valley of death.

Yep. You know you're going to be ambushed again. And then you get, he's the... Gain? Ambrecht again. The game is going to be... People die. It's the same shit. And I'll take it from there. It's an amazing thing. Three day gun fight to get into this fob. We kind of refit, reload, fight our way back out.

Gun fight again, but this time we were a little bit more aggressive in what our response was gonna be. So like when the ambush was initiated, we already had A10 Warhogs prepositioned for gun runs. So as like the ambush starts, the ambush line is defined, A-10 goes, and just like again vaporizes everything. Fatter way out, and we making this village, and as we're driving through this past, this really narrow past, there's this lone tree.

I mean, right out of Sleepy Hollow Horror Story, this old nasty tree, and there's a dead rotting body hanging from the tree. I was like, this could could essentially summarize my past week right here. This is perfect, cool. I'm gonna experience more of the same horrors that I've experienced for the past week.

And I roll in this video or into this village and all of these people start coming out. Beautiful. They look Asian, gorgeous, just stunning looking people. And the women are like looking at me, like looking at me. You can only like it. No, like humans. Oh, gosh.

All the other villages, they're totally covered, they won't look at you because like, were they invading, not what was happening, but that's how they treated us. And this old man walks up and hugs me. And it was the first time that an Afghan had had any physical contact with me that wasn't trying to murder me. You stabbed him in the neck?

No, I cried. I didn't start crying. I cried, I cried. The dead hanging body was an elegant body. Tussed your hand first, right? Although it was a Taliban body. They hung a Taliban body at the entrance to the village, being like, if you come in here,

you're either gonna have to kill all of us, or you're gonna have to step over our dead bodies and piles of brass to get to the next person behind us. Because they had guys positioned in the middle. Oh, all around us. And they were all of the farming town. Yeah, it was total agriculture. They had, as if we went back a thousand years.

They were here. It was a little town. Oh, he's gorgeous. So, Shanger Law is like this mythical city in the Himalayas that, you know, does or doesn't exist. And you don't get old there. There's no violence. There's no war. You know, there's no theft.

There's no rape. There's no murder. And that's what it felt like going into this little village. And it was just people wanting to live. They wanted to be left alone and there was a statement of that at the front entrance. We don't support this. Yeah, you come in here,

I'm hanging your corpse from the tree. And it gave you food, right? Like pomegranates and shit. Yeah. Yeah. And growing up in Central California with pomegranates trees on our property. So again, the brain, that spectrum of having roots in hell

and finally feeling and touching humanity, tasting the pulmagrand and being thrown back to a childhood and remember the memories of my dad trying to mentor and nurture young men about what it was gonna be like. Because I'm eating this pulmagrand and this old man is like, because he could see. He'd probably see the British.

He'd probably seen the British. He'd obviously seen the British. He's obviously seen the Taliban. Well, he might have been old enough to no gang has conned. Yeah, and when you start crying in his arms, he just held on you. It's just hell.

I start crying and that's the part where I started. You started reaping like I did in Austin. Yeah, just like, you bury stuff, but it's still in there. And I don't know how people access that after war, but this guy just by like one touch, he just opened it up. And we're all of the humans.

We got all these kinds of, some of us were just like, what is going on? Some guys were still like, are we about to, is this about to go down? Yeah. Like why are these people getting closer, they got a bomb vest on? Yeah.

You know, like I'm gonna wear my skin tonight when I go to sleep. Jesus Christ. And how long were you in that village? It's not long enough. I should stay there forever. Yeah, such a cool fucking chapter. Like it was such an unexpected.

It's almost like you stepped into the shire. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, Bill Will Baggins comes running out, he's like, yeah, I'm looking at you. Well, what I thought was really cool is that there is humanity. There is great humanity in hell. Like, you can find the oasis.

You can find the harbor in the tempest, you know. Yeah, like right now when people are struggling with everything, abortions happening right now, you know, of all the studios just having it. You know, inflation, the 2020, or the 2022 midterm elections, and everybody's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, like.

First, like we're humans. Second, we're Americans. Let's just take a breath and be cool. Yeah, be cool. It's been you're talking, like as a guy who touched so much violence, that's wisdom, you know, it's like it makes you in some ways harder but softer, right?

Yeah. People throw around revolution, both sides right now and it's like, makes you in some ways harder, but softer, right? Yeah. People throw around revolution both sides right now and it's like, you have no idea. You people. They never punch in a face. Never mind. You people. Well, that's what I was saying about when I heard these kids

and they were kind of on college campuses and saying, we need a violent overthrow of the system. And I was like, you kids have never done a contact sport. You have no idea. And there are guys like you kids have never done a contact sport. You have no idea. And there are guys like you out there. And if you, if you're awake in that phase, dude, what? Oh, no, they have no idea. It's like, it's like people who think that like the guy asked me how I do

in a fight against you. He really did, because you're a black belt. You wrestle in high school. You're a black belt. I'm talking about you box. And they go, how would you do against Brennan if you really went out and might go, is that a serious question? A professional heavyweight UFC fighter who played pro football?

But if you've never done it, you don't know. You remember that rich guy at the cons film festival who's wanted to get a single leg on me? Dude, he was super rich and he gets up on, I think he's wise. A lot of guys want to hook up. I don't know what that is. Yeah, you were a win-quit-stammer.

I was like, oh, god. Alpha male, alpha male, but small. Little guy, small. The rich guy in the room. And very, very wealthy. And just decided he gets up on the table. A little dinner. It gets on the table and he goes like this,

let's go. Let's go. And Brenna's gone, you gotta just tell him to stop. Get him away from me. I was so, I'm gonna have to do something. I'm so embarrassed. So I go different route. I was like, hey Rich Guy, you get a single leg.

I'll do your wife. By stuff you, you give me that watch. Yeah, that get a single leg? I'll do your wife. By stuff you, you give me that watch. Yeah, that's where I should've left. That's good. This is the evil of me. This is why politics is out because like, I don't think so, dude.

I think you could run. I think I really could. Because you have to compromise in politics. Half the amount. I can't do it. You can't compromise. No, you don't compromise. I could apply.

For the book tour went to DC to do like the book launch was the library congress and literally just stood up and walked away from people. Otherwise, I would have committed. Oh, because they were, were they? What is it like an assault in Virginia, if I like just take somebody's face off? It's called face off.

It's a crime Okay, yeah, okay, not just for it so there are two options you feel their face off of you just if you Make a small decision and just you pull the face down Salt never like leave the room. Yeah, or face off. Were you getting that kind of shit from people? No, they wanted stuff They're like hey, you know if you, it got this issue that I want you to like talk about, you know, the poster boy, whatever agenda they're trying to push. Oh, it will make it like a donation, you know, and I was like, so you'll donate to a group trying to save people's lives in exchange for me doing this thing for you. Wow. First of all, you're a horrible human. Second,

I'm going to take your face. Yeah third, he is too calm at him though. They're like, we're just too calm. Too calm at him. Too calm at him. You're a total model in the agent, wasn't that. And it took me two guys about it. If I was that, I'd be so off the table. You guys pissed him off, but don't eat the bread.

Yeah. And you guys are working. I'll push the agenda. I'll talk to the powers of being. Do we current events? I know, we get in. It's up to you guys. Do you guys? We got all this shit. Is there current events or no, we get in? It's up to you guys. We got to do all this shit.

Is there anything to talk about with him? I'm a current events. I mean, you guys already covered like Rovers is way being overturned, right? Yeah, we are. So I have no input on that. Yeah, I mean. I like people, can people just like be people?

Yeah, whatever women want to do, I'm like freedom about everything. See, this is like the hypocrisy, if like all these people like, no, no freedom, like right to bear arms, you know, freedom of speech, you know, no, no, the Patriot Act, you're like heaven forbid, you make sure other people have freedom of state, you're not comfortable with. So this is why I'm just like a freedom first

about everything, I'm not gonna be hypocrite. Like if you want smoke weed awesome, like I will fight for your right to smoke weed. Like you want to identify as whatever, cool. I'm gonna be a hypocrite, if I'm gonna sit here and be like I want all my freedoms, but you can't agree. You want to marry somebody of the same sex? I'll fight for that.

You're like, I'll bait, I'll bait you. For sure, for sure. It's more of a constitutional thing. So, the founding fathers like, no, that's not in there. Yeah, there are two things just to educate people. One is that the idea was, it's been the law for 50 years. And what that means is that usually the Supreme Court almost always goes with what's called precedence, which means that it is a law that was passed that has become

in many ways ingrained in the law of the land. Okay. So precedence was, you hear the word a lot, precedence was, it's an issue that in fact is law, there's no point in overturning it, 75% Americans supported it. And every one of the confirmations of these conservative justices essentially said that, Amy Komi Barrett and the other two. They basically were like, the law is precedence. And it would be- It's a state by state.

It's not really my job, and it's kind of unsettled. Yeah. Of course, what with Justice Thomas, who is a staunch and strict constitutionalist so that's the black guy right yes so so if you look at scalia and the conservators there are two ways to interpret the constitution one is it is not a living document it is a fixed document if you if you start interpreting it and you start you start making it malleable to your political position it loses its its strength So the idea was they said, wait a minute,

Roe v Wade is not in the Constitution, it is not a constitutional issue. That's a dicey thing. Therefore, well, therefore it is a state issue. State by state. So the state now, the battleground becomes the state, okay? So the state has to, it's really left up to the state legislature. And it has like a small government person. I love to it's really left up to the state legislature in and as like a small government person

I love that it's a state issue, but I also hate that it just like or three dudes talking about like women's reproductive That's how I feel I'm very uncomfortable, but then if you take away this and then what's that? You know like it's because gay marriage is in there so well so here's here So so so they just so yes, they're gonna bring that up and they're gonna bring up contraception. That's a problem. Of course it is. It's a slippery slope. You've got, you've got.

So don't want federal government, man, like I live in Texas for a reason, as Californians are leaving, fleeing the state for freedom. Yeah, keep going. Yeah, but yeah. But then, you know, Texas, then is like, okay, well, am I a freedom state first? If I'm going to limit access to women's

reproductive health care, if I'm going to not allow, so that's where it is so nuanced. It's part of the American experiment. And what's gonna happen is you're gonna have states that you're gonna have abortion terrorism, if you will. They're gonna be a lot of, oh, good idea. They're gonna be a lot of corporations are already are saying we will pay for your leave and for you to get Disney medical help you a lot of corporations are so good talk about they're just thinking about all I know

It's gonna be a fucking battle shit, but here's the biggest problem It's a people that can't afford to leave the state. Yeah poor people People of color communities of color. They're the ones. They're the ones that are gonna have children that can't afford children, and I know people are like, well, it's their responsibility. I get it, I'm all about personal responsibilities. Everybody in this fucking room. So my thing is,

you guys are not gonna take care of those children. Those children are gonna have to find a home somewhere. It's a very, I would say it was just left it. Yeah, well, so do I. And then I wish they would have- But they said, I wish they would have said it now. It's a, for people, this is a very, this is a religious issue.

It's an uncompromising issue for a lot of people. And they believe that the sanctity of life begins at contraception. That's a huge thing. I can see that. Or the heartbeat. As soon as it's a heartbeat. So in six weeks, you can, you can, you can, six weeks, you can sense a heartbeat.

So it's the heartbeat law. So in Texas, once you can detect a heartbeat, it would be illegal to get an... No matter what. Yes. Insust everything. Yes, and that's what's gonna be a rape. Oh, by the way, and rape. And incest.

Come on. So I have a huge problem. And we're, the three br bros are gonna figure it out. That's why I've always been pro-choice. 10 minutes on the couch and we break it down a little bit. I'm pro-choice, but here's, you can speak to this. I can feel it. Like the other super-incorporate decision was,

it is unconstitutional to say to somebody, you're not allowed to carry a gun. This is a near problem. So again, if I'm gonna be freedom first, I gotta be freedom first. And there's nobody's going to be able to tell me how, or when I'm going to be able to protect my family. Do you believe that people should take a course

and learn about our own? I think it's the individual responsibility. Like if I'm going to carry a firearm, I have to be trained. I have to be competent using it. People won't, people don't. But they should be, right? But they should be.

Other things that you have to do for a car. You they should be, right? But they should be. But they should be. You have to do that for a car. You have to have a car. I'm a bunch of stuff. And we're going to get a lot of, by the way, just, just, just saying in this country, on this podcast, just saying that people should probably take a course where I'm going to get 50,000 emails or whatever, like, you're fucking close. Am I saying you have to be a man?

They did. It's a very, I'm not sure. But what I'm saying is that, for me to carry a gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here.

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I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them out of here. I'm gonna take them how I want to. Because you guys are gonna do it. I know you're not gonna do it. But see, I called 911 and who came, nobody. You know, I know that.

That's what I was trying to explain to people who are a Volney hour and 20 something minutes. I know, I was trying to say to people who are super gun control like the L.A. for Alex. Colton. Yeah, eight minutes. Eight minutes.

Dude, I get by eight minutes. Everybody's dead. Well, the cop told me, because I had an issue at my house years and years ago, the cop goes, it's about eight minutes. Everybody's dead. Well, the cop told me, because I had an issue at my house years and years ago, the cop goes, it's about eight minutes or average time. He goes, so we tell everyone, you'll be able to fight for eight minutes. Eight minutes.

Now, fighting the UFC, I go, I looked at him, you know, a long eight minutes is. He goes, yeah, but you would be fine. I go, I'm fine. Try some majority of the people eight minutes, dude. Fighting for your life, they're fuzz. Yeah, everybody's fuzz. Yeah.

I mean, I, that take me, I have to, I need, I probably couldn't keep you off my back, for I would take at least seven minutes. I, you know, like eight, they're gonna get it. I hate, I'm gonna get choked out, Tim. Yeah. What else, yeah. Sicking my finger in the cage.

Are we doing good events? Yeah. Okay. We're gonna get Tim's body. What a dick. Fuck. You guys wanna talk about the trans trans-rulic and swimming? Are they banned the international governing body, banned trans-gender swimming after the

NCAA? That's a big sense. I agree with this. I mean, I don't think by a lot of the father of three daughters. And do you know how mad I would be if my daughter got lost in the leadership? Yeah, lost her scholarship, got eliminated from a national competition or going to the Olympics. Or your second. Or this is an all-American status.

Doesn't make the Olympics. Well, that's what happened that girl. She was all-American for three years, her senior year. She gets bumped out of it because the transgender girl finished ahead of her and she's like, this isn't right, man. Like my senior year, I've placed all-American every single fucking time. And now I'm out of this.

There's an epic photo on podium of the first. The first, no? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no in a photo and it was a cis. So a woman that identifies as a woman that was born a woman, and she's holding both of her children and the two female trans athletes, that transition from male to female, and then competed as female as athletes, got first and second.

She's a grist. And she's standing there by herself, and you're just like, it's so annoying to me. I don't know who would think that's. A lot of people, because they don't think about it. But they've also never done it. Do I want an inclusive environment

where a trans athlete can feel safe to be able to compete? Yes, yes. Yeah, different question. Let them compete. They're going to make an open category. Absolutely. Let them, yeah. But I want my daughters to compete level playing field fairly. Yes.

My thing about all of this is that I'm mandated to think about this and talk about this in a certain way, and it's 15 minutes old. So when you, if I say a man's a man and a woman's woman, I get banned from Twitter for life. That's the problem. You know, you're enforcing this ideology and these ideas that they're acting like are settled science, which are new on people who are like, wait a minute here, this is, this is. This is. This is.

This is on every one of your podcasts. Yeah, yeah. You're not at all. Yeah. We're going to be back to common. Actually, I did this one, especially for you guys. She's going to get a snap of a load of the shaggy in his mouth during a cold, that's just one specially for you guys. She can go get a snap, put a load on her, and it's out there and called me.

That's just him crying for help, she's so hot. Yeah, so hot. And Kelly's smart. I get it. Yeah, I put it. She's so hot. And you, she's brilliant too. I know her, and I've worked with her, and I know her.

She's brilliant, brilliant, right? She's very smart, and she's a reader. She's smart as fuck. She read my book, and she's cool. You know what, I don't know. She's not smart, she's smart. she's cool. You know what? I don't know I thought smart she's I think she's singleton That she's with like Megan Kelly or something No, I'm not making a kid or she

Megan Kelly's also hot and pretty and pretty smart. Yes. She's brilliant woman too a smart woman's a turn Megan Foxx just has all she has all the cards One of the hottest Shotgun my mouth and yelling on the phone and like the barrels of my mouth I go to cock the shotgun the bullet as it comes back up the shell just gets jammed look at my face Do we believe this story my face? I got Skepte doesn't make sense in how a shotgun operates she might make you kill yourself I mean there are women out there that'll break your fucking back kill you

Like we've been friends all time for her hard time you would joke me. I caught you you tell me you break my neck You know me Kelly you'd be like I'm sorry Brian Making fox yes me Kelly no You would if we were just we were here and she's last woman on earth and I was like guys take it She likes me and Tim are killing you she likes my person out and I me and Tim are doing or she was like you guys should fight it out yeah what killing you do I call it I carry a small knife dude bring up your weapons I go Tim I don't want Tim I don't want yeah there sorry you know that you know that you know the guy who's like that he's like oh Tim all that exercise all

that training I'm sorry, as I drag it up, you're like, and then I can't believe it, then I can't believe it. Then you taught me this Tim. And the last thing here, you taught me, no, no, no, no, I'm a blue bell. We do eat a properly rolled. The first of never. I would love to, I would love to learn from you in video tape. It was like me trying to move around with this.

So we have a helicopter pig hunt on the books. We've got to figure out. Waterboarding. We're gonna talk through that before, before, can we do a, can we do a, can we do a, a junior varsity version of it? There's the only one way to do it. There's just how.

The team's gonna do a mock fucking trial. How long can I get a time period? Sleep deprivation and melting nutrition are definitely added. I don't want that. Can you put them in one of those little things like I see on the Zero Dark 30, where they put for something like the coffee? Oh, that's the worst.

Yeah, that's what I want for. So the pain positions where you, like you get in a box you can't start standing all the way up. Or a box you you can't take a full breath in so they put you in a locker Oh my god, and they have different size lockers. Oh my god So like we wait and we're trying to shove but I wait for you to exhale and then I shove you in so you can't take a full Dude, I'm gonna do I'm gonna tell you whatever. I'm singing. Yeah, but it's also I'm gonna tell you what I'm squamped So it's like getting the top of your head so you're kind of like this Be also can't breathe. Oh, we're gonna leave you in there for how long? How long? I'm gonna have you can't tell me this I wake up tomorrow four hours

Think about the brain in your knees. Oh, then I go back to your breath and I like pull on you Oh, that'd be nice, but then I push you back. Ah Fuck you sick Look at you. Oh look at that look at us You are dark, so dude. I feel like the room just got dark. I can't breathe I was on a flight for 27 hours last time. I'm fucking I'm already What's up with that is that a mustache? What's up, but me? Yeah you yeah, so little mustache is it? He said is it You know what that, is that a mustache? What's up, what me? Yeah, yeah you. Yeah, it's a little mustache. Is it? It's not a mustache.

No, no, no. He said, is it? I'm not gonna talk about me. I don't know if you're talking about me, but yeah, this is a mustache. Okay, but a little, yeah, it's a small one. My brother's Korean, and we don't let him do that. Why?

Cause it looks terrible. Because I love my brother, and I'll be like, your brother's Korean? Yeah. How's he? He's adopted. You guys are this smartest I don't

Yeah, well, so Is actually my brother-in-law, okay, but he was my crib mate growing up as a kid in my sister They get best friend since we're this big. Also, basically brothers. And then my sister marries him. And that's pretty cool. That's cool. Hold on. Hold on.

Fun story. Well, she also, so that was her brother too. Like they've known each other since they're like, one? Yep. What? Fun, 15, 16 years old when cops show up and they're like, hey, God, this dude climbing up

this window and like, what window? That window, and I was like, that's my sister's window. And my brother's like, that's our sister's window. Chad, what are you? Oh. Oh. Oh. Come inside, Chad.

Wow. Now, they've been married like 20 years. They got beautiful, my half Irish half Korean. Oh, my skin's so cute. So cute. They got green Irish eyes. They got like the red strawberry blonde hair, but they have like the perfect almond shade eyes.

They're just like most, every one of them are the most gorgeous kids. That is he military military or he said. So he works for a de-eblicanian nuclear power plant. Okay. Don't try to go there to do bad. That is my brother will kill you. Oh Jesus Christ.

So you, everybody in your family is a fucking killer. If I'm not in that house, I'm doing my brother brother is an FBI bomb tech, detective sergeant, and then my, yeah, and then my brother... I wonder what a normal day's like for him. I have my brush, or... We're like a bomb. Tim, what I gathered from your book

is that you were not just a green beret because you started out as a PX-18 or something, which was they needed more special forces guys. That's right. And so they recruited a bunch of like physically gifted guys. Problem is the age for a green brace dropped by seven years and get this. They were dying at an exponential rate. Double that of that average SF guy.

And the SF guys were like, these fucking muscular little, these meat heads are in here. Yeah, you're really good, but knowing who to kill, we were really good. We weren't really good. We weren't really good. We were like, little muscle meat heads without any experience. But now, I gather that you really did, you did things, you were part of elite squadrons that I didn't know, they didn't even know they existed.

They're, that's the point. Ah, you know, so when people think about the baddest groups, let's talk about them. No, that's not the right thing. I mean, I'm so proud of our all volunteer military. We longest war in American history, all volunteer going over to fight the longest war in American history. Back to the conscriptions,

like the draft of Vietnam and how damaging it was to American life and American culture, we just fought the longest war in history. Everyone that was there volunteered to be there. I mean, that's wild. And we also, I think, have the most powerful military ever to walk the face of the planet. Think about that. Yeah. Well, I worry a little bit that we have about 10,000 or maybe a thousand, whatever it is. We have a secret army that nobody really has a name for or knows about, and I worry a little bit about that.

Not that I'm saying anything, I'm just saying. We have to kill him now. Oh shit, he knows too much. He's gone too far. Wouldn't be cool though if you came into a room to him and you had this secret mission and I was fucking standing there with my arms behind and I was like, Eddie's sergeant

or whatever the fuck you are. And then you were like, well, Brian? You were like, Brian, I was like, that's right. Otherwise known as, I have Falcon. Yeah, black feens. Otherwise known as black feens. I know, I'm gray Falcon. Fucking, yeah, gray Falcon. Manch' fowl. I'm no, I'm gray falcon. Fuckin' yeah, gray falcon.

Manchita. That's a good name, dude. That's the start of book. And I give you your orders. That's your book. Hey, do we get a percentage of that? 100%. Okay, so we can all do that.

Why the origin? Like the origin of the story happened right here. He's on board. Okay. Like if J.K. Rowling was here and it's like, all right, so this guy has this lightning bolt in his forehead and there's this bad guy, Voldemort, and he is like, cool.

You know what my, you know what my chapters would be? I beat up a French guy who didn't have to fight once. That would be my chapter. Yeah, bad B.O. Great, great chapter. Yeah. That's racist. Give us one more, Jen, then I get a role.

Okay, real quick, with the mustache thing, you're not the first one to tell me that, like girls always tell me if I shave my mustache, I look cuter. Okay, so. My mom too, but when always tell me if I shave my mustache, I look cuter. Okay, so- My mom too, but when I look at myself in the mirror, when I look at myself in pictures, I feel like the mustache looks better. So- But I have to take it to the mustache.

But if girls are telling you that I like it, no, they don't like it. I look cuter. I look cuter with- I think you have a great head shape. Thank you. You kind of have good high cheekbones. You know, you got good good full lips the all the eyes He's 45

Yeah, my brother to dude. He looks like he's the exact same as I remember him in high school I was like you are seriously 17 or you 44 anything We have a lot of like an agent's turn like 76 overnight Cinderella which I agree with my name When Asians turn like 76 overnight Cinderella, which I agree with my name When I do I'll take looking like I'm 20 tell them Take that what am I gonna do at 76 anyways? You know wife hates me already win again Okay, so the last one me mark on the same page here. So I had this up earlier I don't have heard about really Rudy Giuliani saying that he got attacked by someone yeah after the row versus way

Thanks, I'm gonna You made it up? Okay, let me play his, well, this is what he says so far. You can't say that you did things when things don't happen. Like, hey, I got assaulted by these two white guys, and they threw a new surround my neck. You know, I had a justice surprise here.

There's some of the powers everywhere. There's not an inch unless you go to like, podunk, nowhere, Texas. There's no, There's cameras everywhere. Yeah. Well, he said he got, felt a bam and then he said it, I don't know if they helped me not fall down

but I was just about to fall down. It's a tremendous pain in back. You know, all this, all this stuff, when he looked, when he's swelling substantial pain to the back and left that spotty. I don't like that people hit him. He's an older man.

Well, look what happened here. This is the, this is the, this is the, after the video came out, this is what happened to him. The guy said, they just tapped him on the back. But he said, what's up scumbag? So, why cause of that? Well, that's not a cool thing to do.

That's not cool, but he said, that was a nice touch. That was a nice touch. I'll give that to him, but it's also being a soft society. He like walking up and touching a stranger isn't cool. Like you come up and touch people. No, I shouldn't touch people. The softest touch ever. I'm still gonna turn around like a hyena

that's been starved and what's a tear your face off. Yeah, you know. But that was even more so. Like that was an aggressive touch. But you're a grown man and a dude talks smack to you and smacks you on the back. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, cool.

Just turn around and be like, I'd nothing do with that dude back, shut up. Yeah. Get on my fucking face. And the end of story. So he won like his team released a statement saying like, you gotta solve this. He released a statement saying like,

it was like incredible pain. It was like a hardcore pain. You know the bummer's, it's about him, it's about him, it's about 97. But you know the bummer thing about him, it's all right. Is Rudy Giuliani, like now I know the whole Trump stuff everyone makes foam He used to be a real bad ass. Oh fuck yeah, super bad. Steps him off. Yes

Yes, I hold the Rico act is old Rudy Giuliani like real badass. How about the fact? He also turned New York Oh, yeah remember 9-11. Yes, remember 9-11. He goes you can't be afraid. We have to stand up to these people He's a bad 11 he was gonna be they thought he was in Renford Presby He got knighted, I think. He was a loved fucking person on earth, and then obviously now you're only, you know, what you are as of late, like what the media portrayed you as.

He was Trump's lawyer. He's talking about a real badass back in the day though. He's still it. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a fan of Trumps. I mean, I'll say it out loud. I'm not a fan of Trumps, but I like it. But Juliani, you know, he's allowed to be friends

with a guy and a new him forever. You know, he may have his faults. Just like disagree with him doesn't mean I, yeah. The two-inches of that spectrum is like, don't walk up and hit an 80-year-old man in the back. Yeah. Also, if you're a man and somebody smacks you in the back and talks smack, like, don't be a pussy about it. Agreed. Just turn around and be like, hey, motherfucker, don't touch me.

Yes. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, don't do a press release. That's right. That's exactly right. Do not fucking touch me, Tim. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, don't do a press release. That's right. That's exactly right. Do not fucking touch me, Tim. Yeah. Oh, well, radical setter.

Yeah. Is that a tune? That's it. What about just, you smell it? It's old. No, so he was on, he was on Sway show, you know, Sway in the morning. I love Sway. And he's also, he was at the BT Awards and just acting really cool.

And people were just, I already made fun of him, right? That I was saying, yeah, yeah. I didn't even know that he was were just getting off. I already made fun of him, right? I was saying, yeah, yeah. I didn't even know that he was back in the news. I was just randomly. He went to honor an interview with Swayu, which is a pretty much big interview. Then he kept saying how like,

is this before he goes back in prison? He's just doubling himself down. Okay. He can't go anywhere but that. He hasn't prisoned for like a few days, I was in. He's supposed to be there for a long, long day. He's there for one day. They got like prison tattoos and shit.

But he's got him lying about this, is like him putting a fist into Black People's Culture for after 400 years of such a fight. He's just a douchebag. He sucks. He's the worst. Fuck, we're talking about him again. You know you're right, that's what he wanted.

We're making fun of him. So we'll stand on a better note. Thank you for what you do, dude. Yeah, thank you for what you guys do. I'm really proud of you. And people, if they want to get the book, it's sold out basically everywhere. Scarlett's in it is hard.

They're trying to do reprinting. So if you see it on the shelf, it's somewhere snagged. It's the best name for a book. I mean, scars and stripes, come on. Yeah, so the stripes in the military, you earn the same way that we earn scars. Yeah, it's literally time overseas.

You get combat stripes. And then your stripes on your other sleeve are the stripes of your Your years in service. Wow, and then your stripes for your rank is like you aren't so you literally just like I know I don't know anything else. No, that's no. I love you guys man I love you man freedom first keep just get out there first amendment is so important Yeah, when we lose that and you guys always push to envelope both his comedians and his podcasters. This is the new front lines for freedom. When it comes to discourse, yeah, you have to be able to talk.

Satire, discourse, you know, fucking changing your mind. You gotta do it. Yeah. And if you love freedom, I'll be in Fort Wayne, Indiana, July 14th of 16th. San Diego is July 21st to the 23rd. The end in Baltimore on the trash panda summer tour. Baltimore is August 4th through the 6th.

And Appleton was constant September 8th through the 10th. Take it, take it. You used to in Boston, you got it, buddy. Okay, let's do it. I'll be out. Fort Wayne, Indiana, you're up next. July 14th of 16th. Come see me, Brookfield, Wisconsin, Milwaukee and Prague.

July 21, 23. I am an Austin captain. Yeah! 28th, 29th. 30th, anything you want. me brofield was got some a walk in brog July 21 23 I am an awesome captain 30th anything you want anybody you want I got tickets for all right Austin cap city they just opened by the way they just open yeah positive the national Tennessee Zanies August 25 26 27 great I know this is these are great cities yeah I got spooking Washington Which I actually love September 22nd 23rd Top 5 and best of my YouTube show run were about to drop episode four check it out

It's gonna be excited. I'll say she had water boarded by Tim Kennedy Oh, that's you up. We got that we got I'm ready to all right. I'm gonna work games Workings with any stuff in my glove or fuck him up and then Hug hot and get water boarded by Tim Kennedy. When are you back from wherever you're going? I don't know. We had this close vocation. Until the mission's done. You make it sound sexy. It's not. It's like I have to go work until the work is done. They know I was asked me when he's going to be back. We'll see. Well, the Tim. This is Tim. This is how I want you to always answer

everything. Watch this. And when somebody says, so there's I'll be Tim Kennedy. Okay. Let me ask you. Yeah. And when somebody says, so I'll be Tim Kennedy. Okay, let me ask you. Yeah, and say, say, what are you doing? What are you doing in Ukraine? Go ahead, Sam. What are you doing in Ukraine, Tim? You just keep waking up free every morning

and I'll do what I do, buddy. How's that sound? I like that, too. See that, too. And then, when you come back, Tim, when you want to grab dinner, something when you come back. When I'm done taking care of business.

Yeah, see that. See that? See that? See that? I heard it. I heard it. That's a good time to get it. You figure Tim, thank you brother.

Love you Tim. Don't get his book.