The Fighter & The Kid - Ep. 836: What Made T.J. Miller's Special Actually Special

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

TJ Miller joins the boys to discuss his new special "Dear Jonah" (available on Youtube) and what made that particular show so unique and random, his love for Bryan's special Man T...ears, why he decided to leave Silicon Valley on his own terms, his brain surgery to correct an AVM malformation and the lingering effects it has had on his cognition and relationship, Chrissy D getting vulnerable on Bert Kreischer's podcast about being a father while also being a standup comedian, doing High School improv at his urban school, why TJ's instagram handle is "Teenage Millionaire" and his website proclaims that TJ Miller Doesn't Have a website, why comedians are the philosophers of our time, Brendans lowest moments as a fighter and why he would never fix his cauliflower ears, and how people all over the world have suddenly started saying "Correct" instead of "Right."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:04 We gon' keep it moving like it's never gonna end. When it back Cause we back at it again, yeah We gon' keep it movin' like it's never gonna end When it was brinning, when it was bright When it was just talkin' to friends We got the kid callin' on the left With the fighter on the right Hide the do it right Cause we comin' at you live
Starting point is 00:02:17 Back with the team I'd be keepin' OG My CTV Yes we did, cause we back at it again It's the fighter and the kid It's the fighter on the kid we're out T. J. Miller wow Three is interesting official yeah, I Know I know you used to these big movie sets off like this big big deal here
Starting point is 00:02:59 Dude this is a big deal thick boy studios. We don't fly a brother. I mean how are you man? Just maybe you didn't know, couple Denver thick boys. Couple of Denver thick boys. Couple of miles high. I looked at him and I, I haven't seen him in a while. I haven't seen him in a while until we died. 720. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:03:15 5280. You know what I did? I looked at him and I went, T.J., you're big. And he just reached over and padded me on the shoulder. He went, ah, you're a good kid. Well, I didn't know what to do. I mean, I'm not gonna hug you because I might hurt you. You just want to.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And it's also, it's also your big Scandinavian phrase. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know how you'd react to it too, because I'm sure not too many 55-year-old men go, oh man, you're big. Yeah, but I saw him. He's on man tears. Sometimes if a man's handsome enough,
Starting point is 00:03:39 you'll give a second gander. You're damn old. Ah, damn, damn. Right, I will. Right, I will. It's quoted by standup. Yeah. No, Get damn it. Oh, damn it, damn it. Right, I will. It's coated in my stamp. Yeah. No, this guy will. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 When he's the tour together, we'd be on a plane like a big athletic black guy, come on, you're like, cool. What are you, what are you, you know, a fellow? Like, what? No. I'm like, black. Oh, please don't do this. I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Please don't do that. Do you know the first time I met TJ? Do you remember the first time I met you? This is the strangest thing. Oh, no, what was it? You on the back of Jeremy Piven's back. Oh, that's right. We were doing a movie called The Goods.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And I met TJ. Oh, the game's literal. The little kids die with so hard to come back. So weird. Like a piggyback, yep. And Jeremy Piven doesn't remember that, which I think is funny. But I saw him once and I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:20 I was strapped your back and the goods. And he was like, huh. And he was like, yeah, very cool. That's all. And then did he go, I do stand up too, to you, Jason. Yeah, well, he was at a coffee. It was at the lab factory. That's where I met him and talked to him.
Starting point is 00:04:34 He's really interesting. I mean, he was really like, I'd love to get your number and talk to you, sit down and have coffee or whatever. It's a really nice guy. But yeah, I was strapped to his back as a parachute instructor and Neil Brennan, who directed it. He's great.
Starting point is 00:04:51 He's so funny. And he did a really funny thing, where we did one take and then he came over and he was like, don't, don't make any faces or anything. And I was like, oh, he's like, you've got a goofy, weird face anyway. That's it.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's just like don't. He's right. Neil likes that subtle, don't, don't kill Delily. Don't push me. Yeah, but he also, he didn't kill Delily on, he did kill Delily on telling me I have a weird looking face. And that was like the second movie I was in or something like that. But that, that was very, very weird. Yeah, you were in that and then you're, you've been in all these great movies. That's small parts and great movies. Yeah, but it's was very very weird. Yeah, you're in that and then you're you've been in all these great
Starting point is 00:05:26 Movies last small parts and great movies. Yeah, but it's that's huge That's really important that you haven't been in a bunch of movies to tank. Yeah, yeah, dude Yeah, the big yes hangover Yeah, the hammer is the cashier school the Joker and the Joker That was huge fucking deal. I was so good. Got caught up mostly, but I'm I you're acting. It has always been well, you're standing up for me. It's always been you're acting for me. You're you make it you always make it look so easy. That's how I feel about your standup. Really? You
Starting point is 00:06:04 don't make it look hard I think it look easy. Go ahead. What were you gonna say? I remember I did we did a set at the improv and you Text me and you said you're really funny man and I'm a little depressed about my set right now You just didn't feel good about your set and you and you were like I just love watching you and you were very Commentary and then you were like I need to get my shit together because you felt like you hadn't done or something, it was so funny. I remember going, TJ, you're one of the funniest people in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But I think what's amazing about you, it's really hard to follow you, really hard to follow you because you have this very controlled physicality. So I've always thought of you as a physical comedian, but watching mantires, I see how you've really Like pinpointed what is what works and then you've sort of paired it down and shaved away because I think you started off as a Really physical Yes, and in mantiers you've got all the giraffe stuff with the the
Starting point is 00:06:59 I wish a whole lot of You want a whole beautiful I wish I went all the eyelashes. And then that's it. So then you'll go on and you'll talk about, you know, and I'm not gonna ruin the end of it, but you'll go on and you're just talking and it's straight stand up
Starting point is 00:07:18 and it's about the writing and the words. And then when it makes sense again, to veer into the physicality. He's going full-bred. Yeah, yeah, And I love that. And then the ending of your special, of the entire special, is a physical joke. It's a completely physical joke. It's, you know, you say what it is,
Starting point is 00:07:37 but it's just the ending is special. It's just like, that's it. It's the funniest fucking thing because you also, I just hit my stomach, because you also, I just hit my stomach because you also, I'm bleeding, I am bleeding. You also sort of trick the audience and I love this shit. This is my favorite kind of shit, you know what I mean? And you do like all three of us love sort of fucking with the audience. You guys fuck with each other and it's fun.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And the audience loves it because they know that it's, we're not like, it's all fun. You know, and so the thing that I thought was so fascinating is you really tricked the audience into thinking that you, hey man, I've come to a point, kind of, you know, I've come to a point, I'll sit down and just stand up and just break it down and talk about feelings and just something real, finally something real. That's where I've gotten to my stand up.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I'm gonna talk to you about something real and really expose myself and be vulnerable. People are with you and then you just totally pop up at the end and it's so funny and it's like it kind of makes fun of also what can be really wrong with stand up, which is people like soap boxing it because you already have a great joke.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I have a joke right now that's like so hard to do, but it's similar to your iceberg joke. You know, and I think you, you, you, you as a comic watch the whole fucking thing. Well, I just skipped three different things and I was like, I'll just talk about that. I just, I'm sorry, I'm the only one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, I watch all the three because there's something about that fucking with the
Starting point is 00:09:15 audience kind of, but you, you did all the political stuff you needed to do in that, all you really need to do is that iceberg joke. And it's great because the audience is like, what's his deal? Who's side is he on kind of? Yes. And you're like none of them. I'm not on anybody's side.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I don't want to draw, I don't want to draw. But you know, Alec Baldwin says something I never forgot. He said, we go to the theater to laugh and cry. And I, you know, making people laugh throughout my career has never been, you know, it's always been my thing, right? We'll talk about this in a second. We're in a ring.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I got a ring. Oh, I'm very, oh. We got a ring. Well, it's, I can't, I can't, it's a rubber ring. I can't wear, it's a rubber ring. I can't wear hard rings, it just gets in the waist. I've never seen Brian in a ring, any jewelry.
Starting point is 00:10:02 He's doing a marriage. Look, but, what am I going to show with a bracelet? Yeah, and I'm wearing a white, a ring, any jewelry. He's turned my- He's not rich, look, but- No, he's just gonna show up with a bracelet. Yeah, and I'm wearing a wreath. I seem messing with him, like, I have an aura ring, that's this ring. That's the same thing, yeah. I don't like those.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You do it. I don't like either, because I don't like, it's like after you do it for a few weeks, and then some days you're not gonna feel good, and you still gotta work out, you still gotta do stand up. When it's like, today's gonna be tough, shut it down, I'm like bitch, I got three shows in the day.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, I can't. I can't. I don't want to set my mental frame where I'm like, you sluggish, that's what the whoop said. My thing is that because I'm brain damaged, I need like nine hours of sleep ideally, and it also has to be good sleep, so really helps me with that.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I mean, the whoop is the same thing. Yeah, I have the same thing. But didn't you have to have surgery? This is really funny and kind of cool. So funny, honestly. Yeah, don't worry anymore, but. I love that. Didn't you have surgery?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Check this out. Yeah, I did. Like a straight up brain through. For a good old man. Oh, that's dope. That's your way of nail, yeah. Nice. That's pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:11:01 That's the band. I like that. I just got that too. But it gets caught on shit and not exactly. Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah. Also, if you lose it, you know, you don't know if that's solid. I was saying about like, there's thing about making like you go to the theater to laugh. Yeah. And we are, I got to rain it in here. You do rain it in the body fuel daddy. Rain in. Just get all crazy. That's got a lot of caffeine, by the way. No. Yeah, I felt it just then.
Starting point is 00:11:25 How sick did I get when I drank two of those whiskey and I take nicotine? Well, I thought he was drinking it up, right? I like nicotine. I think that's pretty funny. I was taking nicotine. Say that instead of smoking cigarettes. I take nicotine.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Oh really? Yeah, yeah. I didn't hear it. Did you ever, did you ever smoke? Yeah. I didn't. I don't like the, but I smoked left. Did you ever, did you ever smoke? Yeah. I did it, I don't like the, but I smoked cloves. That was something that's gone in out,
Starting point is 00:11:49 but they're not addictive. Yeah. So it's really, really, you know, it's great. He's a walking pharmacy, he's got a lot of stuff running to his body. Oh yeah, and join me while you can, I'm probably a friend of three years. Yeah, that's the end thing.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That's all. But you straight up had brain surgery, right? I did. Yeah, I had this thing called an A-V-M. Yeah, I had this thing called an abm and it was It's a malformation in your brain that happens when you're in the womb and it was about the size of a golf ball And it's it's more fragile than the rest of my brain And so they had to embalize it just put glue around it and then take it out So they took out a golf ball size of my brain.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's like a 10% success rate. What? Yeah, that's right. That's the only, yeah, one out of 10 people die from this. And so they were like, you know, they go, do you want to, it's elective? And I said, well, will I still be funny after the surgery?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Jesus Christ. And the guys like, what? The doctors are trollies. You weren't funny before. Yeah, yeah, right. Oh my God, that was so good. That is what you said. What was like, well, what's your, you weren't funny before. Yeah, yeah, right. Oh my God, that was so good. That is what you said. What was like, well, what's your name?
Starting point is 00:12:46 You weren't funny before. Am I right? They had five minutes. And you were saying, maybe you will be funny, finally. Yeah. They're just, we're hoping it makes you funnier. Yeah. That is when you'll be able to buy somebody, right?
Starting point is 00:12:57 So, yeah, kind of. I mean, you go straight in here. So what was weird was, I didn't use this. So what he said was he goes well, you know It's not I you don't really use that party brand. So I think you'll still be funny But he part of him was like He said it's electric surgery. You don't have to get it So what happens if I don't get it? He's like you're probably dying your mid 30s
Starting point is 00:13:21 What and say well, let's roll the dice. See what this all about. You probably did it. Did you really say that? Yeah, and so now, and always, it's not selective. I have this, I have mania. So that's what I have to medicate because my brain, ostensibly,
Starting point is 00:13:39 has to work harder than all of yours because it has less brain matter. And so that's created a lot of problems where I've tried to medicate that. Yeah, that's my problem too. Really? No. I think mine's CT. That's the nicotine.
Starting point is 00:13:52 That's the nicotine. That's all the nicotine. And the Denver water. And so that's what's created a lot of problems for me is it made me very successful because I would just do two. I could do this and these five things and I would just say I'm good. But it would also get when it veered over into the, and I was self-medicating for a long time,
Starting point is 00:14:10 just all depressants drinking, nitrous oxide. And it's all out. Yeah. Poppers, poppers, poppers, poppers. Oh, yeah, where's that handsome little boy? Yeah, and that's what anal sex, yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. That's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It should ride right up.itarot, right up. Nums, things up. And so I, and then now I do this thing called cognitive remediation, but I had a misunderstanding with the federal government, and it was because I had a manic episode. When you have a manic episode, you believe everything is real that you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You believe that you've gotta get ahead of it and even become more manic. Is that like skitts almost? It's like a drug too. Yeah, you can, I had a psychotic split ones and it's still a hack. And it's a being really hack because everything that they talk about happens to you. So you think the television is talking to you for sure. You think that the government is watching you. Do you remember it's true?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Do you remember it's being crazy? The Chinese government is looking through. Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. I'm kind of bored of all those points. I know. I'm kind of bored of all those points. I know. I'm kind of bored. Maybe I have the appearance.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's just a day to day. Yeah. For us, Jones is like, you're talking about life. Yeah, yeah, you're talking about every day of the week. But so, you know, they kind of now I do this cognitive remediation and it's weird stuff. Like, I never feel tired. So, I think people, there are other people that are like that,
Starting point is 00:15:25 but I've never, I don't drink coffee really. And so what I have to do is I have to look in the mirror and see this part of the remediation and say, do I have physical signs of being tired? If I do, have I been yawning? Do my eyes look this way? And if I do, then I need to go to sleep. So much to do.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You're super tired, you know? As a comic, that's a super. No, I don't feel tired at all. And that's the thing. But the super I could do so many fucking sets. And that's why I moved to New York because my dream forever has been to be a Manhattan comic. And a big part of that is I just, I can do five sets.
Starting point is 00:15:57 My record right now is eight sets. And one night, oh my six. That's impressive. Yeah, I mean, that's really impressive. Cause you've got to balance with six, you've got to figure out a roadmap. Yeah. You got to start up town or you're going to make your way up.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I started the comic strip. Yeah, that's like, yeah, yeah. Then New York comedy club. Yeah. Then Boston comedy club, then New York comedy club down on 24th grade. Yeah, and then, uh, fucking, then, uh, it was Greenwich Village Comedy Club and there's
Starting point is 00:16:27 I did a couple of tests that were like like rebar. Yeah, yeah, just bookshows It'd be tough to do eight in LA You can do it. I didn't my I just say five or four. Yeah, you could do that. I thought you could do yeah, maybe I did do five But I don't you do five you can mostly do three in the In-open factory and yeah, you just go up and you do whatever but that was my thing is I just wanted to like do sets do sets and so now finally I am kind of more remediated and that's really interesting too because I don't feel the same
Starting point is 00:17:00 high from the mania but it is nice to kind of be able to say, right, you know, tonight I'm not gonna do a set. Or this, I think, now the good thing for me would be to go and to get into bed and just close my eyes and then I will fall asleep. That'd be tough to manage. Yeah, it's very strange. But at the same time, it's really tough to manage
Starting point is 00:17:23 if you're married to me. I think that's a Sh and ask your wife because she didn't sign up for this right until you got diagnosed she's like, oh that makes sense Yeah, exactly. Yes, but I knew her from college So we've married to this since we were like 20 with George Washington whatever it yeah, GW He really did to American. He really really sir Really yeah Kate and I got um Scholarships and hers was for hers was for um it was called the whip program
Starting point is 00:17:54 Which I think is very ironic. It's women in power whip Starship for the wet program. Yeah, yeah, watch the watch the wall program. Yeah for the wet program. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The watch, the watch, the watch program. Yeah, women in power. Women in power. Yeah, women entertaining TJ is the wet program. And so it's really interesting because we both got scholarships,
Starting point is 00:18:18 but hers was for an essay that she did on female genital mutilation. And exactly. an essay that she did on female genital mutilation. And exactly. So it was really serious. So she then she got a scholarship into this program. Mine just showed up and it was like, you got a presidential academic scholarship
Starting point is 00:18:36 and I didn't apply for it. And I was like, what the fuck is this about? And I guess they just wanted to bring there like test scores of people coming in up. And I was hit because I didn't have any recommendations for my eyes only two teachers would know. Only two teachers would give you recommendations. Everybody else literally was like,
Starting point is 00:18:57 I can't write you a good name. Is that amazing? I mean, what a fucking horrible thing to say to a kid. I don't believe in you. I just, I simply don't believe in you. So, go to the drama teacher and see if they'll draft something up. And- What was your account?
Starting point is 00:19:11 You got an account. So, it was agnemic because just because I scored high on the SATs, that's it. They just wanted to bring that up to be like average scores, eight, six, or whatever. Yeah, but it was really interesting to me because when I watched you- Because I tested really well. Well, but when I watch you on Silicon Valley or I watch you on, I'm watching like a really
Starting point is 00:19:28 different choice. Like, I'm watching a really good actor who looks super trained because the character you played on fucking Silicon Valley and any other thing, there's this, you have this ability, it's like maybe the tempo of your voice and you get away, you can get away with anything because you just have that natural Stammer just a chain smoking drag Night, you know Billy Joel. Yes, you can do that and just talk
Starting point is 00:19:54 But there was you were doing something very specific on Silicon Valley the self-entitled fucking guy who's just Clueless but self-important So in secure. Yeah, but no, I mean, yes. Is that from studying acting in a class or is that, was that you were trained? Didn't you, you were training? Yeah, I went. I went, right?
Starting point is 00:20:15 But that was for in Paris, but it was circus arts. That's what I was learning. Shake, shake, shake, we do. Well, I did go to British Academy of Dramatic Arts, but that was only for the week. And it was all so. It was so. It was just Shakespeare. Shakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshakes King and I sort of saddled up to him. And I was like, I'm a comedian, I like to do comedy. But outside of that, I minored in theater, but I didn't really learn that much. The whole thing was in high school.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I had this incredible drama teacher, Melody Duggan. And she stand up was one of the software you have to stand up, no other drama, high school class, no. And then improv, and she would have to stand up. No other drama, high school class now. And then improv, and she would have us improvise, and sometimes she just didn't wanna do, she just didn't wanna work that day. So she'd say, all right,
Starting point is 00:21:13 everybody get up and improvise. And it was, as we were talking about, East High School was mostly black and Latino, and drama was in East class. So it was hilarious. It was like the nerdy white kids, right? And then all these gangsters, like legit crypts. Yeah, like East and Dead.
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Starting point is 00:21:48 academics. But it's in the heart of downtown, it's in public school. So it's like, you're getting like rough. And you get, and you get a sports, you get a basketball. All the kids would be good for black and brown. No, yes, no. But also, yes. But yes, yes, yes, yes, but like one of my friends this guy will
Starting point is 00:22:06 Simmerman, he's a brilliant photographer. He he passed he died and he was one of the rough neck white kids who was really smart, but he wasn't in the accelerated classes, but like, you know, they're white because they're dealing weed or they're just, you know, there was all of that, but there were also a lot of black and Latino kids, wow, next. And they're absolutely. And there is, so, but they, the smartest of those kids were also in the accelerated classes. And so I was too. Because there's a lot of AC classes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we're taking AP class. So here's the thing, I aced my AP psychology exam. So that was an instance of like,
Starting point is 00:22:51 and no one aces it, really. But I was fascinated with psychology, that was my major. But so in these drama classes, she would be like, improvised. And all the gangsters were like, I'm not gonna get up there and be like, Bingdong, oh, I didn't expect you'd be here
Starting point is 00:23:07 well what about me cousin ten oh cousin what they decided to buy this cool shit yeah yeah yeah let's uh uh i don't think you come in while a sign can i buy this or leave and they all have guns in their car. That's sort of the vibe. Because there were me, there were metal detectors. It's like dangerous minds, but with really good teachers.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, like everyone's Michelle Piber. And so I kind of, I was just improvising all the time for hours because we would have these block periods. So for three hours, I would just be on stage improvising. And I think that was the whole thing. And so what I do in Silicon Valley on these things, I really improvise. And I think the thing that a lot of people...
Starting point is 00:23:52 Did you improvise a lot? In Silicon Valley? Yeah, it's completely. Oh my God. But my judges have funny other writers and funny so I would do both of those. But I think what's gangster, what I relate to that show it was so big, you're like,
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'm gonna move on. Yeah. And I was big, you're like, I'm gonna move on. Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck, you're gonna move on? Talk about awesome. Look through like I can't believe he's moving on. I was like, yes. And you know what, I relate to something with that. So a lot of, I talked to Michael Bay yesterday.
Starting point is 00:24:17 You've heard of him. And I haven't either, and he called me. I was like, Michael, what? I didn't even say who. I go, Michael, what? Tell me when you're serious. What do you mean, what the Bay? What are you talking about water? What are you saying here, Michael, what? I didn't even say who? I go, Michael, what? What? What do you mean? What the Bay?
Starting point is 00:24:25 What are you talking about? Water? What are you saying here? Michael Lake. And Michael Pond. He's, yeah, I would never call that man Michael Pond. But we're just talking about being a Maverick. Because I think he's a genre inventor.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That guy like created a genre. He's so, he's totally legendary. And he's talking about Maverick. And that's, you guys are both Mavericks.. He's so, he's totally legendary. And he's so maverick. And that's, you guys are both mavericks. And that's just a word that I've been thinking about and talking about and, you know, talking about the media just being like, what would be clickbait
Starting point is 00:24:55 and destroy the true story? They were like, oh, T.J. was crazy. People were like, oh, yeah, I did. I wanted to move on because it's like, I don't like doing things for more than five years. That's really true. And I got to the point, yeah, I did. I wanted to move on because I don't like doing things for more than five years. That's really true. And I got to the point, and this is how much I really care about the audience.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I started being on autopilot. I really noticed that I was showing up. Too comfortable. And I was just sleepwalking through it. And then people will say, like, did you smoke weed on set? And stuff, I know they give you fake weed, you know? But I really thought, I got to a point where it's like, I could be totally stone.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It's so cool. I'm a single last-owner who's always high. And I had gotten into the rhythm. It was five years, because the pilot was, so it was four seasons, five years. And I could have just gotten high and kind of that could be my job. And work great, I never get tired.
Starting point is 00:25:49 So it's like, I can get high, that could be my job. And I click into a character after that, it's just to get bored. But then, you get bored and also you're doing it as service to the audience. But also the audience, I want them to think, and I don't want them to be like, oh man, that was such a funny show.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And T.J. was great, but then in like, episode five and six, they were really trying to like shoehorn them in there. I don't want that. Yeah, and I think too, the level of success that show was that for you to walk with at that time. I think most people, I can't believe he's walked away I got him.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Oh, I'm a fan now. So that's what Molly would, I'm like, it's like, once he was no longer in the show, it's like, I'm a fan of that guy. Because I like the show, but then when you'm a fan of that guy cuz I like the show But then when you walk away, I'm like oh, that's some gangster. It's true. That's some Denver East high shit Right that's a morrush. Yeah What's up, dude? So dark night?
Starting point is 00:26:37 And he's in the Joker at all He just becomes immediately curling. He just throws out an A-ing. And so I, and then I go get him. I try and get him on camera. Which I think I should do right now. To do it. Kick Mark my camera. Oh no, you're good.
Starting point is 00:26:59 You're really good. So you've been on the set. So. Yeah. Yeah There's okay. Oh, no, you're good Just I forget to use the microphone It just shoots the top of Brian's head. Yeah, that's right. That's it right there and So golly now I feel like a cameraman more than a podcast guest, you know, there's almost there
Starting point is 00:27:23 So, Golly, now I feel like a cameraman, more than a podcast guest, you know? It was almost there. It was so gross. So gross. Yeah, so I got basically scored really high, you know, on just testing SATs and all that. And then went to George Washington University, and that's where I met Kate, actually. And so it's weird. I'm so lucky, but she's seen me from open. She's been to open mics.
Starting point is 00:27:44 One point she was like, can you stop doing shows on New Year's Eve and what you meant was you run our New Year's Eve every year by doing shows. And so then I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna do it. But she's seen the entire progression. She was there during Silicon Valley. And that's what HBO said.
Starting point is 00:27:59 HBO and Hollywood was like, why are you, what? Why are you leaving? Because the system doesn't work that way. Yeah, and you finally made this show so successful, I would tell you. And I also had a component of it that was like, I was doing film and I was doing stand-up every night. And after I do 14 hours, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:18 I mean, you could be on the fucking set for. I was doing I shot school right next to you guys on the Sony lot. Yes. You guys are literally, so that my trailer was here, Silicon Valley's trailer was right here. you guys on the Sony lot. Yes. So you guys literally, so that my trailer was here, Silicon Valley's trailer was right here. You guys were all over here. We were right next to each other.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And I would do, he knows, I would be working a six an hour day, I would schedule, so I'd have an hour and a half to run to Santa Monica, do the podcasts, and come back and I do it in my fucking outfit. I'm pressing and not miss the pot because I can make up in school. But you did it because, you know, it's good. It's absolutely good. But because I was doing stand-up every single night and they had to move stuff for me to do,
Starting point is 00:28:58 I also was like, and I had a psychotic break during that point. It's just as we were talking about. Yep. Before. And so they definitely were like, they gave me an out, you know, they gave me this really funny way to leave the show, which is, Arla, because it's just an opium dead. And that's where he stays forever. So that was so funny. But they also were kind of like, you know, this is hard. So maybe do you want to do three episodes out of 10 or seven or what? And I was like, no, I think this is just such a perfect time to leave. It's such a funny way to leave.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And the HB was so sweet. They just were like, I'm sure you really wanted to, and I go, yeah. And I think that Hollywood in general, not HB. They call you in general, it's like, but don't you want to buy a boat? And that's the mentality. It's like, didn't you always want to be a TV actor, a TV star, everybody wants that stand? I was like, no, I want to be a standup.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And also, I don't want to buy a boat. I want to live in Manhattan with my wife and do standup comedy. And so, that's kind of the impetus behind leaving. But now, I have this kind of weird situation, this haunting conversation. Do you do the comedy zones? Yes, Florida.
Starting point is 00:30:11 So yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. And I did charlotte and this guy,
Starting point is 00:30:18 who runs all the time. Love having a game to me. He's great. And he came to me and we were talking. And he, you know, he's got all this stuff going on And then I was like, you know, I think the problem is that people don't know that I'm a stand-up So I'm trying to get more stand-up online. I think it's special. Yes. I think it's a big part of it Either that or I'm not a great stand-up, but they kind of they you know, they know me as an actor
Starting point is 00:30:40 And they're coming to see me as an actor and then after was like, whoa, he can actually do stand-up So I think I need to show everybody that because it's the acting, it's the film and television that's bringing them in in the first place. And he was like, and it always will be. And I was like, what? And he goes, that'll always be the way that people will come to see you.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And I thought it was so weird. And I thought, okay, he's talking about, no, this is an existential stand-up stuff. He's talking about, no, this is existential stand-up stuff. He's talking about, I will always be more famous for film and television than stand-up, which is true, because I'm that famous and I'm worried. It's not about that. I mean, you're, I have some people coming to you
Starting point is 00:31:17 because of the podcast, but also because you're film and television stuff. Most of the time, most of the podcast is when Brian's doing Goldberg's, how about you set, so? Three. How about when you had your school off of school? How most of the time. Most of the time. Most of the time. Most of the time. Most of the time. Most of the time. Most of the time. Most of the time.
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Starting point is 00:31:58 I think I hadn't done as much stand-up. It was supposed to be really avant-garde, I don't think it connected, but it was also a time when we were inside. Is that the only drink the water like it's edible? Yeah, exactly. We mean my brother could not stop laughing. It's so funny, but the reason it's out of nowhere Yeah, the jerk was drinking water like this he goes and it's actually Don't make sense. Why is it everywhere? But so random and it was so fucking just nobody would definitely
Starting point is 00:32:23 It's ridiculous. It's called metic cause meticulously ridiculous was absolutely ridiculous. He goes, it's out of nowhere. Just, you guys are seeing a dribble drink water. Oh, yeah. It's just like, and so. And so, I love shit. That's, it's the best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And so, I think comics are pretty good. That might be the greatest bit of all time. That's right. That's all I like. I love to have a shit like that more than anything. Yeah, but you're, you're but you're prone to doing that. You'll just veer off and find out. So when you interact with the crowd,
Starting point is 00:32:50 you're just very, you are very that. And so I kind of, you know, I think the reason I did Dear Jonah, which is my special, that's out on YouTube right now. He's just released that, right? Just released it like end of September. And it just ended up being so perfect.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And what did you think? Because I was like in Nashville, Tennessee. And I thought, I mean, you guys know, so the second show in Nashville is essentially a bachelor at a party and they put a city in there. Correct. Somewhere inside of there. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And you're so right about that. It just, it's the craziest shit. Correct. Somewhere inside of there. I don't know why. You're so right about that. It just, unless you have that, it's the craziest shit. And they're proud of it. It's so weird. They're on like those. They're on like those. They're on like those.
Starting point is 00:33:32 They're on like those. They're on like those. Yeah. Yeah. They're on like those. I saw one of those. Not many of you. Here's how Tennessee, this is right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm not trying to break up any marriages with all of these annoying individuals. There was one of those who's being dragged by a tractor. So it's like, how much are you leaning into this? And also, the guy driving the tractor looks so sad. It was one of those weird things where you look at a man and he's just like, how did it end up?
Starting point is 00:33:55 He's like, I get it, dude. I can't believe it. It's my valley. Right, he looked at me and he just goes. He's like, the bottom is a valley. He's just, he bought a tractor. He bought a tractor. He bought a tractor not to drive around Bachelorette Park. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:34:07 He was like he's just be a farm man. He's just towing these warlocks Jesus yeah, I tried crash this thing but it moves too slowly Jesus yeah, I tried and crashed this thing but it moves too slowly I'm a Crash is the but only goes to him also Jesus I'm gonna slowly go on a kid rocks on guitar So we're so we're you know, I'm there. I go okay the second show the first show on Friday night wasn't great But it's good we didn't get it and the I go, look, this might be a fucking disaster. So if it is, I'm just going to riff with the crowd. We'll get that. And then we'll put it on social. And he
Starting point is 00:34:53 was like, no, no, we need, we still need to just do the set again. I'm not, I can't guarantee that. Then walk on stage and I started doing the set and it's the audience is fucking unbelievable. They're so amazing. And you know, and I was, yeah. And you do know, because you have that moment, especially in a special, you're waiting for the crowd. You just wait and they're right there. And then this fucking drunk guy in the front row starts heckling me. And I'm like, just don't, don't pay attention to him.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yeah, that's exactly. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please don't do this. Forget that you're even here. And he won't stop hecking. And he's the kind of drunk, we forgot there's other people. And so it's just me and him. And he's like, he goes,
Starting point is 00:35:29 yeah, that's true. Yeah, well, he's hilarious. We're looking at other people. Every punch line. And I'm like, please, we'll let that never happen. You'll, that's exactly right. Hey, it was very much like that.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Kill him. And so, fucking kill him. Oh, if you could like take him So then anyways, so then I go I go I'm not gonna kick this guy. Let me just talk to him So I make a joke I ask him about his cargo pants and he has the most elaborate Reason that he wears cargo pockets even though he's have anything inside But he always like just likes cargo pants.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And as he says this, it's immediately clear, he is not drunk at all. He's developmentally challenged. What are they call it? They somebody who's like mentally divergent or something. I was talking about it with my neuropsychologist, who I've worked on some, and she goes, well now we call them intellectually deficient and I was like, that's horrible.
Starting point is 00:36:27 That's really weird, that's not like slow, that's your stop. You're a really funny retot. Yeah, neurodivergent, that's exactly what it is. So he's neurodivergent and it was so bizarre. Yeah, and everyone in the audience was like, what's going on with it? But I don't know how much tension,
Starting point is 00:36:43 all at once, the entire room, because he's clear, he was like this. And so then I go to the, I go, I want you guys to know that I am not going to make fun of him at all. And the audience explodes. They were like, ah! Because they all were like,
Starting point is 00:37:02 this is Weasel from Deadpool, he insults Ryan Reynolds and his face and all that stuff This is Erlick from Silicon Valley where he insults every single person so they were waiting They're like is TJ gonna be like oh And I didn't at all of course and what I said what I said was you know broke the tension And I sort of said okay, and I complimented him and said, I like to wear things because they're comfortable also and I don't need to carry things in them.
Starting point is 00:37:28 All that. And I said, okay, now we're gonna move on to the next thing. But then he interrupts again. But I will hold on, I incorporate him into the show. Oh, no. And then slowly, and this was really interesting, slowly, I incorporate him, then I ask him this, that I make part of the nose-flute game show,
Starting point is 00:37:45 and there's so slowly, this show becomes really about him. And at the end, he has the funniest line in the entire show. And then at the end, the closer involves him, and it's ridiculous. And so it was gonna be called the pandemic special. And then after I looked at it and ended it, and as soon as I got off stage, I was like, I think that's the special and then Kate and the director Arnold Alders come in and they go.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I think we're going to pitch that that's the special right and I was like that is the special. And so we renamed it from the pandemic special to dear Jonah because dear Jonah the guy's name is Jonah. Oh wow. And it sort of became this love letter to the sky. That went it was so different than I thought. I know. I thought you were saying so then after, I mean the boys rub them up in the back.
Starting point is 00:38:30 In the back. No, even more mentally, Jim. Pure of soul, pure of heart, guy. That's so cool. And it was so interesting to, yeah. And so it's so interesting to see it and you've got to watch all the way through. That is one of the problems is that people now don't watch all the through or was five minutes to a tick tock. And it's only 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It's only an hour, especially. Yours is 50, 38 I think. I did 30 minutes. Yeah, yeah. I met with Netflix. I'm sorry, everyone. And you know, met with the head people at Netflix and I we know for a fact, people stop. Don't know who it is. They stopped watching after, what is that? 20 minutes. 28 minutes. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. Like you're moral. After that, I went and in three weeks,
Starting point is 00:39:25 like three weeks later, I filmed a completely different special in Tampa. This one's gangster. Completely. It was pretty gangster, I think, and it's really good. And I was thinking about doing both in the same time, but that was gonna work at all. But, you know, so then it became this kind of dear
Starting point is 00:39:41 Jonathan instead of the pandemic special. A lot of it's about the pandemic because I was like, I gotta burn this because it's not gonna make sense exactly. And that what was great about it is that it captures two things about me. One, I improvise all the time in my shows. It's basically a fucking jam band, riffing, crowd work.
Starting point is 00:40:02 But I was just talking about the city. I will talk about the city for 20 minutes. I've seen your show. I think that's your superpower. Yeah, that's really an outline amongst other headlines. Well, I think it's really, really fun to do that, but you've got to have stuff online to get people to be like, so the special perfectly shows that.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And then, it perfectly kind of shows that I'm like not an asshole. Like it's so important for people to know who I am. And so, dear Jonah really shows people that because I love this guy. Slowly I'm like, he's the best part of this guy. And Jonah's headlining him. I think it's our rage is yet to prove you're not an asshole. Anybody who knows you know you're not an asshole.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I know, but a lot of people just know that I do know that that's the hardest thing. Welcome to the asshole club. Same thing, I don't get it. I don't, I never stood. Here's one thing that I don't pay attention to. So I've never thought that of you at all, but I'll get the same thing to you.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Oh, he's an asshole, he's a bully. I'm like, whoa, here's the fucking up the action. Well, also we match a certain, I don't mean interrupting, but I think this is really true. That we all match this demo, this demographic, that people love to hate right now. And you guys even more so because you're like fighters, I mean you're like fucking, you are the thing that's so much of American culture right now is like, you're a bad people. I like that.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I told on to that. Oh my God. He's always going like this. Yeah, my hands are crazy fast. Yeah, you're so fast. Well, you had that was for a while You had that that was yeah, I love that You know and and but I never heard it about you though I get a lot I know that but I just look like you guys more than I look like
Starting point is 00:41:42 A non-binding And you're more famous. And you're more famous. Sort of cis-chainer. I love it. You've done nothing. I don't know. Here's the thing important. I really seriously.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And I want to place something after this. You know what I'm doing is all. All you've done is like try to make people laugh, right? And pretty damn good at it. So you were an Italian amount of laughs that you've created. Like it literally dedicated the past 20 years to just making people laugh. And that's literally all the past 20 years to just making people laugh. And that's literally all I think about is
Starting point is 00:42:07 how to make people laugh. I quit fighting, make people laugh. That's how it's made to me. You see that should be the ultimate proof. Did you see fucking Christopher O'Connor talking about a creature? No, about what? Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:42:20 On a discrim? Yes. Did you see that shit? Holy fuck. Do you know Chris, he's an artist. He's in Staten Island Yeah, he's there. Let me let me preface this to yeah, I like his that y'all say watch. He's oh, so let me preface this with how much I'm gonna send this to here. Here. Hold on if it's on his Instagram. He is bringing up here be
Starting point is 00:42:38 What is Chris? Why is it here? I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna say I think it's these shadowbin. EZD? No, hold on. No, there it is. No, you should be verified. DI? Is it? I think it's the eye earlier.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I just said it to you. I'll get it from Brian. So like the amount of travel you have to do as a comic. That is weird. Just Google it. The amount of travel you do as a comic. If you have kids, you know, your kids don't see you as much as you'd like them to. Listen, I saw this this morning and I was like
Starting point is 00:43:07 Man, I've never talked about this, but it's about what you'll see. I've never spoken about this I've never spoken about like how in some ways difficult being on the road is all the time I make say it is an exclusive. Yeah, I'm glad to be on this particular I've done the Chrissy D Chan is what I'm talking about. I love this now. It's not. I've done the Chrissy D. Next to you. Channels, what I'm talking about. I know you're talking about this. Now it's not on his side. I talked to Chrissy, which one is on?
Starting point is 00:43:29 Oh, this is Mr. Jason. Okay, got it. I talked to Chrissy D. Probably a month or two ago, because he was at, you know, he has three kids now. He's so funny. But he was asking how I navigate being a dad. He's like, you're such a good dad, but what?
Starting point is 00:43:42 And I said, I made my tour. My tour. Go, go, go go watch this first. Yeah, watch Just just watch I put them better than I do that Here you go, hey, be let's take a little break from Chatten TJ Miller's era if you know it's from Denver now you do buddy now you do now the one thing TJ will allute to this. I think maybe he talked about already. He doesn't know when to sleep. Yeah, I can't wait to get to sleep
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Starting point is 00:45:38 I've been watching my daughter's life on the phone. What am I doing? Like she's never gonna be six again, you know? And I miss like tons of her life. Yeah, I make this money, but I'm like, I've watched my kids like do a fucking face time. And I'm the only dad that has been in a swimming tour. And it just like killed me.
Starting point is 00:46:02 How do you do it? Because her doesn't do it. How do you do it? Because- Her doesn't do it. I don't know how you're doing. Do you make a serious stuff? I'm really out of work. Yeah. I can't tell you, I can't tell you.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Oh, fuck. I can't tell you. Dude, I missed- I'm like, it's like a tear. Mm-mm. Dude, I've missed it. Dude, I thought it was pretty fucking real, dude. Bro, I thought I was like, I haven't. No, and I'll talk about, go ahead. Nobody talks about that, you know? And if you have kids that speak so clearly to you,
Starting point is 00:46:43 and so I do a podcast called Caching in with TJ Miller. I heard you have to say things three times. So Caching in with TJ Miller is me and Cache Levy. He has an interview show. He has a tough time getting guests. So I've been the only guest on it in seven years. And it's super fucking fun. It's great.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It's great. There it is right there. Caching in a TJ Miller. Is your comic? Yes, a very funny comedian.. He has two kids. He has two sons. Yeah, definitely. And he really believes in having kids. He said there's only two things that you never regret jumping off a rope swing into a leg and having kids. He's right. And he really, really he is right about that. And so he really says the same thing, which he really, really, he is right about that, right? And so he really says the same thing, which he really talks about,
Starting point is 00:47:28 you know, everything for these kids is on the weekends. And that's the only time you can work. And so, and of course people do, you know, day, weekday gigs. But it's really, really, and so he says, that's why I take the 6am flight and I get up at 4am because I want to be there for every Moment that I can and I know Jason Bayman is amazing father amazing father, but he's talked about
Starting point is 00:47:56 Filmmaking like war that you go to war. You're not gonna bring your kids to war, right? You're not gonna see your wife and your a war. Can't do it. So I have four children that are frozen, and four sort of human embryo children that are all frozen. Three daughters, one boy, miles an Alice, and two ones that'll die. Or be born of some other woman's womb. And so what a weird thing to say, and how recorded forever. So it just forever, just 20 years. You know, what did happen that guy? You're kidding, like what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:48:34 He was weird about his born children. And so, you know, I really think that Kate, and I can say this because she'll never watch this. I could be honest about it. Kate is an incredibly talented installation artist, which means she would come in here and the entire space would become something different. The last thing I thought you were going to say, she's a really talented installation artist. It sounds like it got clipped in. It sounded like something really dubbed over.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Somebody dubbed you over. She's a really talented artist. Absolutely. So yeah, it's like, she's a really talented solution artist. But she's awesome. But she's awesome. And her career was fucked by the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So was ours. So was everybody who did the things that make life worth living, restaurants, comedy, all of it. All that should. And so she's amazing. Yeah, restaurants, comedy, all that. All that should. And so she's amazing. Yeah, right, exactly. But I love you, Types So Vast, you don't type anything.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Oh, yeah, you always have anything. I'm all the far, you see them. Oh, far, I'm the inner walker of the great, I eat one. Look at Kate Gourney. G-O-R-A-L-L-L-L-L-L-L. I guess that is a serious thing though. I'm still confused.
Starting point is 00:49:47 What do they do? Kate Gourney. Gourney. Gourney. I do tell you. So that's her. She's got a lot of, look, she does really, really amazing stuff. Like click that Kate Gourney in our, just the, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And so, but if you go to like, yeah, the, our plans are broken, yeah, no go to what? Yeah, go to our couple of other people I can't even pronounce. Okay, pal. Um, and so she does this crazy shit. That's, you know, just amazing. It was hard to.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah, yeah. And so she really wants to do that. And she's doing really well in it. And I have to travel quite a bit every weekend, not every weekend, but I could not, right now I couldn't do two or three weekends a month, and I don't want to because I want to do stand-up. I want to be getting better at stand-up.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I want to be a great stand-up, yeah, and I want to perform during the weeks on those two. And I think that she has really, kind of, I guess, I don't know necessarily, but I think she's kind of like, unless you can do that, then I don't know necessarily, but I think she's kinda like, unless you can do that, then I don't know if we can have kids. Unless you can totally commit to being a pop.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And then you can have the time to do it, you know? And look at that, her work. Oh yeah, that's awesome. That's crazy. What the fuck? It's just the crazy stuff. Is that a person or is that a mannequin? No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And that's something that she knows. So it's like, you know, I think that that's the problem is you know, and what Cash has said is, you know that it is two things. It's the greatest job in the world. There is nothing better than you being on stage. It's just you. I'll do it until I die.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And yes, and you're making hundreds and hundreds, thousands of people laugh and It's also going to completely fuck up your ability to be a father like other fathers. Correct. I said to Chris though And they're not they're mutually exclusive, but I text Chris today. I said, you know, my dad was always gone Yeah, my dad was always gone, but I love my dad and What I knew is that like part of it is also this, remember, yes, Chris isn't seeing his daughter, but she's gonna be proud of him.
Starting point is 00:51:51 There's a lot about him. Like that dude, that dude is. He's such a good person. He's a good dude. We're also a small fraternity of people who can make anybody laugh anywhere at any time. That's very hard to do for an hour, try that. And so, there's a headliner. There's a head to do for an hour, try that. And so,
Starting point is 00:52:05 There's a headliner. There's a headliner. No one. And so, that's rare, rare. And it does take all of you. And it does take the weekend. And so, there's a lot of things that your kids are proud of. It takes every.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Not only the weekend, during the week, you know, people don't see it. You don't see it, I'm doing four to six sets a week. So I put my kids to bed. They don't know dads working at night. They wake up at 5.30, six, eight, four. You can be there for them during the day. You have different counts, different types of time
Starting point is 00:52:34 than other fathers, but I just feel so strongly about what you just said. And I also, one joke that I was gonna tell your audience in particular is when you save fraternity, you mean a brotherhood, but so much of America's like, oh, no, the crap boy, huh? Interesting. So it's just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:52:52 But you are a part of a group of people who really went out for their dreams and made it happen. And that's the type of role model you wanna be. Not the guy that's there every week and yelling, oh, dad's so embarrassing, comes to every game and he's always telling me what to do and how he can be better. You don't want to be someone.
Starting point is 00:53:11 No, dad no took any chances. He was a dentist, we did really well as a dentist, and I never wanted to work on me, it was so embarrassing. Like, how is that guy a better, again, role model? So much of what your kid should be is the best parts of you. And then their own thing. It's something that's not you at all.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Setting a great example, but loving your kids is a huge part of me. And there's a lot of fathers, right? And I really believe this. There's a lot of dads out there that really are like, goddamn, it didn't really work out for me. So I'm gonna push, push, push my son
Starting point is 00:53:50 to be the thing that I'm gonna say. And then I also hate on the others that do pursue their dreams. It's called Reddit. Yes, called Reddit. It's called a thread about you for me. I really, really feel like you wanna be, and none of us, the three of us will never be like,
Starting point is 00:54:06 God, I hate my job. Never. You can say, I hate the travel, which I don't say, but I maybe one day will. I feel so lucky to be able to do it. Yeah, but you, I just feel so lucky. And you've been over 70 years. If I can really, really really just have a huge
Starting point is 00:54:28 Complement party right now because I know him Much more than I know you yes, we're from you've always been and also fuck this God can hear me now. I don't know goddamn thing about it. Okay. I said he is not from Denver That I'm gonna say it over on this side too. I don't know. God damn thing, brother. You know what I'll do in the middle? I don't give a shit. But you have always been a role model to me. As a comic, I've always looked up to you because of your philosophy.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I've said, and people have stolen this and put it on their HBO show, but I have said from the beginning, I have said from the beginning, I have said from the beginning that comedians are the philosophers that we have now. And that's why it's so dangerous to not let us speak, frankly, because we're able to package a philosophy and give it to people in a palatable way. It's not a fucking TED Talk, but it can be just as brilliant and insightful. And in fact, it appreciates that.
Starting point is 00:55:24 You're obviously right. And people will listen to it and walk away, be fact, it's pretty just. You're obviously right. And people will listen to it and walk away and be like, but you've always been that to me. And then on top of that, it's so grateful. And so happy for other people's success. And so happy for your own success, but in a way where you're like,
Starting point is 00:55:36 look, if I can do it, you can't. Always good to younger comedians, but fuck that a little bit, because they can't take in everything. Always good to the people that have been doing it longer than you, but most importantly to your peer group. You have always said to everybody in your peer group, I'm happy for your success. I think what you're doing is amazing. And if you have any questions for me or think that I can add anything to your experience
Starting point is 00:56:02 of doing stand-up, know that I am here and I'm always available. And that is such an incredible thing because so many comics can't do that. And the reason they can't is because they're not as self-assured, they're not as happy about you. The only other person that I know that's really like you except for Brennan is Cash.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Cash Levy has a way that he is like on the luckiest person in the face of the planet to do this. I have to get back. And what I have to sacrifice for it is this. And just even hearing you say, I'm kissing the kids good night, and then I'm fucking doing a set because that's what it has to be.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And also I think that the three of us, I feel very fortunate for this. We are not motivated by ourselves. There's just nothing about the three of us that is like, man, I feel very fortunate for this, we are not motivated by ourselves. There's just nothing about the three of us that is like, man, I fucking, oh yeah, it's about me, do these people love me, where that's only present, because you go, God, I'm so lucky
Starting point is 00:56:56 that I can do a thing that makes them be like, and it's so bizarre, because a lot of comics that talk shit, or not even woke, just like, think they know the way to do it, because they lot of comics that talk shit, or not even woke, just like think they know the way to do it, because they're doing the best and people don't appreciate what they're doing. They just don't have as much to offer as somebody that's really on stage and there's altruism.
Starting point is 00:57:16 We want people, and so because of that, I think we are the absolute luckiest, I like rare error. And we also are going to be good fathers, good friends, good husbands, rubber ring. And I gotta break it, it's been too serious. I gotta rubber ring. I gotta rubber ring. I gotta rubber ring. But I'm quitting. I'm quitting stand-up after this,
Starting point is 00:57:37 because I've arrived, I've done it, I've done it. No, yeah, I've done it. And you have done it, but you also, in the end doing it though, that's the thing. Nobody gives Brian credit, Brian give me my start, right? Like, find the kid live. But I wouldn't say everybody gives Brian credit.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Anybody that knows you, knows exactly how good you are, how hard you work, why you do it, and that you're an all around amazing dude, and that's your real, that's who you really are. Thank you, buddy. That's why I made it a 22 year old. This is a 33 year old. It's so, it's a 33 year old.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That's what she tells people to get into movies. That's cool. There you go. His hair just rose a little bit on that one. It did right. And I am not gonna go over and move the camera. That was a fucking disaster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:21 That was a lot faster. I'll put it with that video made for you for the moment. Oh my God, that was fucking funny, man. You play that,put it was that video made for you for the oh my god. That was fucking funny man. You play that I'm playing that play that video was so funny come on. We were laughing so because I got married I was getting made you just a little bit I never sold a shirt my life. He's just Brian's never got a shit The other guy in the worst business man. So the days get made I send Brian this video. Oh so it's me in the glasses That's so funny man. That's the and the glasses. It's so funny man.
Starting point is 00:58:45 That's the other thing that I think comes across with you. Yeah, yeah, let's watch this. Watch first. I have to. Okay, watch this. I'm a bit, I know you get married, Chris, you're Brian and you know this, where friend Brian's get married today.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's a big deal. I couldn't sleep last night, I was thinking. She married my friend for the right reasons. 65 years old. She married me for your the right reasons 65 years old She married you for your merch money Think about it. That's that new that new merch dude that official bride-town merch. I mean dude I don't know it just smells fishy that merch I'm sure you haven't walked down the aisle yet.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And I just something to consider. It should have been your merch month. Yeah, you have been your pizza pink. She's just manual for your official brine calmer. Cowell! Just saying, dude, think about it. She's young, hot. 69 years old.
Starting point is 00:59:42 No, it just smells fishy. You know, just something to consider. Dude, I don't want to start any sh**. I know you get married today, but... I know you heard about your wedding day. It was wedding. It's so good. It's so good. It's so hard.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, amazing. But I think one of the things about you is that, well, not in this video, actually, you just negated the thing I was going to say. But you come across as a guy whose values are in line and you know, with Brian, with everybody that we love, Ben Ascrenze is a really nice dude too. He's called me and Bill Wachie and yeah, I love him. And I did his podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:16 It was a really good thing. But anyway, so I think that comes across from you too. And so I just think it's hard to be a father in that capacity, but you're a much better father, like you're saying, than if you, and kind of a better father than if you were still fighting. Yeah, 100%. Because that's also a different thing, it's stressful.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And then your kid is kind of like, so my dad beats the shit out of people for a living. That's just a hard thing to explain. It's a tough gig in that. I would assume I don't know. Same with comedy. When you go in as, you know, when you go into, when you go into on tour, you can't have your family.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You know how it is. Like my girl like, oh, you're in New York and boss, I'm like, yes, I could be in Iraq. It's all the same. Yeah. I'm just working on it. That's why I'm riding. It's like war. And they're in fight camp. It's all the same. I'm just working on it. That's why they ride it's like war. Yeah, and they're in fight camp
Starting point is 01:01:07 It's like eight weeks and then you have the little ones around they're waking up early. There's no way you could do it There's no way to be present. Yeah, it's and that's such a bummer But it's guys do it pro pro sports you do have to be completely about yourself, right? I mean Tom But he's gonna divorce because of it. Yeah, and that's a lot of people have been talking about that and I think cash I talked about in the podcast, and it is, he has this feeling that no one else has, which is being the best at something. Yeah, the absolute best.
Starting point is 01:01:34 He doesn't want to leave. And when he said I'm leaving, she was like, okay, I've held out for this long, and he's like, I'm gonna go back and do more. I think she's, I understand, but she's a woman, and she's like, I'm gonna go back and do more. I think she's, I understand, but she's a woman and she's like, I'm not gonna fucking do this. So I can mess them up. And Kate broke up with me because I was in Chicago
Starting point is 01:01:52 doing stand-up and I said I was gonna move to New York and I said just wait for me. After six months, then after years, she's like, when are you moving up here? I was like, I just need a little bit longer here. And then two years, she was like, are you moving up here? And I was like, I need a little bit more time here. She was like, well, I, that's it.
Starting point is 01:02:07 So she broke up with me and I was so fucked up. And yeah, fuck the, I'm pissed off at her. But she, she can honestly, she doesn't watch. So she can go fuck herself. Right outdoors, not even in the apartment. And, right outdoors. And yeah, directly up the door. It's a nice day. We should hope so.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Maybe she should do it in February. But I think that it's just such a, I don't know, man. I mean, yeah, it's such a grind, but I think that she now wants to do that for her work. And I kind of joking was like, well, we kind of want to have kids. And so it took a really big conversation of joking was like, well, you know, we kind of want to have kids. And so it took a really big conversation where she was like, you know, I need more time
Starting point is 01:02:50 and she totally fucked me because I was like, oh, I did that to you. Did not. But how old are you? How old are you? We are about 41. Okay. So yeah, you're two years older than me. And she's 41 too.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of time. But I think Hillary likes having twins. Yeah. She's kind of time, but I think Hillary's seven twins. Yeah, she's in her late, late 60s, early, early 80s, yeah. 74 years old. Yeah, and so, you know, there's all of that also, but I think what is weird is you have to understand the woman's perspective of, I'm kind of a full-time mom 60% of the time,
Starting point is 01:03:25 or whatever, or 40% of the time. So that can be, that can be frustrating, I was watching that fucking documentary with the, the, the, the DTub news.com.a, you've sad truth behind stars, I can say I'm already a, but that should be all you need to understand
Starting point is 01:03:42 that it's all bullshit. It's all, man, it's gonna be a good thing. You gotta get some. It's a bummer. It's a bummer online, like promotes negativity. Like because if someone says, if they tweet out, or they post on Instagram, TJ Miller best place ever seen.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah. Three likes. Yeah. Because the algorithm doesn't pick that up. And as someone says, it's the fucking worse. 70 retweets. Yeah. The algorithm's like, yeah, get on.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's like, what the fuck are we doing? Did you see the redeem team on Netflix, the story about the Olympic team, when they brought Kobe in, when it was LeBron James, it was Carmelo Anthony, it was the fuck is this name? Carmelo and Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. And they lost a bunch and then this was the Olympics and stuff. And they talk about fucking Kobe Bryant with Paul Gassali
Starting point is 01:04:27 Tom of the clip I think Yeah, but I'm talking about I saw the documentary. Oh the whole thing. Yeah, and they talk about Kobe Bryant and how they all were training and Practicing and then they all went out one night. They're like squat man. We're in Vegas. Let's fucking go out Yeah, you're not a man. Yeah, those big day for the morning For the morning. Yeah, for the wrong., man. Yeah, those big days. For the morning. For the morning, right? Yeah, for the wrong. You're not wrong. No, you're not wrong.
Starting point is 01:04:48 He's not wrong. No, no, do this. For the morning, the 430, the morning, they're coming, they're coming, fucking back into the hotel. And Kobe Bryant is sweaty. He just finished lifting weights. And now he was going to the gym. They were like, what are you doing? What do you, and the amount, the amount he would train,
Starting point is 01:05:08 I don't know how much time he had, at all for his kids. You would know more about that. I don't know anything. Yeah, I don't know. You're talking about complete, you know. Completely, they were like, nobody was like that. Nobody was like that motherfucker. And then all of a sudden they tried to start coming down
Starting point is 01:05:23 and meeting him at 5, 4, 30 in the morning and Carmineau had a thing that was like, it's just too early. It's too fucking early. I can't do it, man. Yeah, I remember everybody leaves and he keeps throwing the throes. Never went out and never hung out with him,
Starting point is 01:05:35 but he would always sit separate. Never would fucking hang with it. But they all respected him, because it's what I mean. But I remember when I first started landing on the core with him. Yeah, but also I remember when I first had landing on the core with him. Yeah, but also I remember when I first had landing, I ran to Kevin Eland at, I forget what airport, maybe like Chicago airport or whatever. Kevin Eland, I was eight years ago, seven years ago, Kevin Eland, we were talking,
Starting point is 01:05:57 he was like, because we met at Adam Sandler's party, not to name him, but we met at Adam Sandler's party. And I was, he was like, oh, what gig you were doing. I was like, I was doing Shomburg in probably whatever. He's like, oh, what gig are you doing? I was like, I was doing Shomburg in probably whatever. He's like, oh, cool. And he's like, you have more dates going on like every weekend man, he goes, oh, if kids, right? And he have one boy right now, he goes, don't tore as much. Cause they take it from me, do not tore as much.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Cause they give you credit for the rest of your life. I was like, okay. I regret it. I can regret it. Kevin Eelon, you know what I'm talking about? I'm sorry, let's break. I miss my daughter's birthdays over and over again. I regret all of it. Yeah, I've tired. I'm just like, let's pray. I miss my daughter's birthdays over and over again. I regret all of it.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah, I've never missed a birthday, but I did. I regret it. Yeah, but that's, here's the thing, man. That's, and I understand you become emotional looking this and I don't have real kids. I'm not leaving children. That fucking got me. My children are suspended in time.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Look frozen. What I think though is that it's so hard to divorce yourself from the reality of that it's other people's values. That a birthday is society's special moment. And the kid absolutely, of course. But if you think long game, then they're not going to care about missing a birthday if you have both been there for them all that you could. And also that you explain to them, Kate kind of, she's diverged from this a little bit,
Starting point is 01:07:17 but one of the things that I loved about her was that the anniversary, excuse me, the anniversary, I need more rain, I got a rain this year. Get rain, get rain, get rain, get rain down your throat. That's terrible. And so, and so what I think is I loved about her, is she wouldn't really do the whole like, you forgot my anniversary. One time we both forgot the anniversary.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And then we were like, you know what? Let's do something really fun. We should celebrate this. And I think that she is good about us saying, like, well, you know what, I'm gonna miss your birthday, but let's plan this and do it another. And so I think you have to help kids understand that. I remember my girl, the one bought.
Starting point is 01:07:58 You had a peer pressure between the bosses. When I was in turn, like two, I was on the road. And I was like, he's my son's name is Boston, and we turned two. She went and threw the party on a Saturday. I was like in San Antonio, whatever. I'm like, well he's two. Throw the party on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:08:11 He has no fucking clue. Yeah, he doesn't. I'll take a five-day flight and get back on Sunday. Just throw it Sunday for God's sake. Right. And that was a no-go? No, she did it. Yeah, I think that's the reason.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And then, you know, teach the kids early that that is the deal. Can I ask you a question as a fighter? Yeah, I think that's the reason and then you know teach the kids early that that is the deal Can I ask you a question as a fighter? Yeah, it enters bit It's how long your ears are Because Ben Asker and I talked about this for a second, but how do you feel about that your ears? You know that you're fighting and that you're you've been hitting the face so many times? Wait, well, about my ears? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:49 The ears come from Jiu-Tu wrestling. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But it's like a badge of honor. So this, yeah, that's exactly, it's a badge of honor. I know what! I knew it! Yeah, he earned him. You got to earn him.
Starting point is 01:09:01 And it's like, it's like, you know, it's a badge of honor. And I remember my first game to Holly when I retired from fighting, I did this pilot on. And it's like, it's like, you know, it's a bad divana. And I remember my first came to Hollywood and I retired from fighting. I did this pilot on E and it was like with all these big names and a list of them, all these huge names and they're like, you're so good this is gonna get greenlit and we're gonna order 48 episodes.
Starting point is 01:09:17 I'm like, oh, I'm ballin', here we go. Oh, of course. So I'm waiting for, I'm waiting for it. Four months goes by and I'm hit by my manager at this slow level of magic. And I'm like, dude, where we at where he's like, we'll find out when I hear someone, I'm hit by my manager as a slow level manager. I'm like, dude, where are we at? Where he's like, well, when I hear someone
Starting point is 01:09:27 I fucking tell you to relax. Finally, he calls me four months later, he goes, I've good news and bad news, man. I heard from me, I'm like, here we go, baby, I'm be so fucking sick. He goes, okay, so the show's not getting picked up. For whatever reason I can pick up. That's the bad news.
Starting point is 01:09:41 The good news is, have you seen botched with the doctors? He goes, yeah, yeah, they're big fans. They want to fix your ears for free. I was like, that is not, I'll get kicked out of the MMA community, man. They can't fix my ears. He's like, I think it'd be better,
Starting point is 01:09:54 it's kind of a distraction on stage, your ears. I'm like, who the fuck's tearing my ears? He's like, I'm just telling you, maybe on the episode, any, this is it. This is what kind of man's like. You could be on the episode, the fix your ears. You could promote your dates. I was like, oh, lecture. This is what kind of man's idea is, you could be on that episode, the picture is, you could promote your dates. I was like, oh no, you have no idea how this works.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah, I was like, this is a terrible idea. Well, that's, I was always interested in that, because it's like a tortellini, but yeah. No, but here's the thing though, I always wondered like, cause it is kind of a badge of honor because if you walk in somewhere
Starting point is 01:10:23 and you have kind of the cauliflower here, nobody's gonna fuck with you. No. Because that guy has not boxed a little bit or been done some MMA on the side. Been through some of that. Yeah, that is not something you're in fuck with. It's not like you're gonna train for two weeks and your ears blow up like this. Like that guy's putting some time on it.
Starting point is 01:10:40 He's got a hint of face with the, a fucking, somebody's foot with someone's leg. At least. Yeah, how many years? Not even this it's leg time We're talking legs 2006 to you know, so you're 14 years. Oh, that long. Yeah, black belt. Yeah, and so do you When you thought were you very methodical? I can't just probably tell you guys have talked about this in the last place.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Were you very like methodical and looking and thinking about the technique and stuff? No, it's terrifying. Or did you, no, no, no, really? Terrified. And so was it like I got to get out of this situation? Kind of. Yeah, as soon as I could get out, I'd get out.
Starting point is 01:11:23 And that's because I was fighting, I'm not as fighting Andre Orlovsky as I was like, it's so fucking scary. I was like the combing event Vancouver, but me and Brian started the podcast before that when I moved to LA. So me and Brian were doing fine in the kid. I'd walk through their port and people
Starting point is 01:11:37 like you're hilarious dude. And I remember TSA was said, the TSA guy goes, oh, what do you and Vancouver do? Do you do a stand-up? I was like, that's awesome. I was like, oh, I see. Do you not see the billboards? I'm fighting a hundred of lofts, you do. And you go to the UFC and my hand'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I'm getting traction here from what I've always wanted. Dude, you should have seen how terrifying it is. He would have to fight another monster who was 265 pounds. If you make one fucking mistake in that ring, one mistake, you go to sleep. Because it's not like being a 155 pounder. Your head's the same size. Those guys, if they jab you the right way.
Starting point is 01:12:12 But you, I was asked because you, I talked to you. It's not that small. It was a train. I have tiny ears. They're so small. I can't even hear people making fun of them. But it was the training that they would have to do. So he would get in the ring with giants, and they'd be swinging for the fences. So you're in the ring, and you know,
Starting point is 01:12:30 they wear that head gear, it does nothing. You know that, you know that. It's like, oh, it does stop you from getting caught, it does nothing. And then you have these gloves, and they, he would have to be in there with somebody he didn't know, who was a monster kickboxer.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Yeah. And they would just go. I knew you didn't get in the ground. I was like, oh my God. That had Brian come caught with me. So you put the hood. You know how to fighter. Yeah. And they would just go. I got a brand of camping. I was like, what? I had Brian come to God with me. Like you know how to fight them. Yes. Well, so he can, but you could kick somebody's ass and I could also, but I would never,
Starting point is 01:12:55 I mean, from Denver East, you're not a fight. Yeah, I do, but it's very softly. But I remember when I won't fight blood. I'll fight a crit. I'll fight a crit. I'll fight a crit. I'll make her a comic. I'll keep you busy. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. But I remember when I was fighting like Kroka, who's former world champion, I remember I was like, this is the worst gig in the world. Oh my God. And then when I did the interview, and I beat him, I got the knockout the night I beat him. I did an interview and then I got it,
Starting point is 01:13:18 I was like, it was horrible. I'm terrified. I was like, I don't want to do this. And they were like, cut, cut. No, talk about how. Yeah, I was like, no, no, no. So I hated this. So I't want to do this. And they were like, cut, cut. No, talk about how. Yeah, I was like, no, no, no. So I hated this. So I looked up to that guy.
Starting point is 01:13:28 He knocked out, dude. Oh, good lord. Good lord. What a strange pair of shorts. So I'm Prince of Gina Cronow, because she was in the first Deadpool. She's great. And she's amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:42 And I asked her, how did you go on to feed her? And she was like, I just rage. Just pure, unadulterated rage. I'm the opposite. And so that's what I was gonna ask. I'm the opposite. Because she said that really was. And Ben Askren was different.
Starting point is 01:13:58 He kind of was like, I come from wrestling. I had to sort of incorporate that into the thing. And that's I think why he had a tough time I come from wrestling, I had to sort of incorporate that into the thing. And that's, I think, why he had a tough time in that boxing gig because he was stripped of half of his skill set. You know, completely lost. And he was really, you know, he was really upset about that. And I said, I never saw that.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And he was like, oh, good. But I was like, that's, has so much to do with, yeah, you're taking away half of this. But I remember, my coach is like, even in training, and he was like, oh good. But I was like, that's has so much to do with, yeah, you're taking away half of this. But I remember my coaches, like, even in training, when I was ranked top 10 in the world, my coach was like, you gotta get me in or man. I was like, I don't, the thumb, but I do, I can't. I saw that in practice.
Starting point is 01:14:35 I was like, literally, I can't. I was like, I can't do. Like, you have to get me in or in order to be a world champion. Like, then this thing for me, man. I remember I got ranked top 10. My coach just threw me like a party. I walked in gym, like top 10 in the world, and I'm like, oh, fuck dude.
Starting point is 01:14:48 That means I got a fight nine, eight, seven, six, five, four. And when you lose, there's so much more to lose on a macro scale, you know? Physically your health? Yeah, 100%. It's also so embarrassing. So like, yeah, that's it. If I was set tonight at the improv, I'd bomb all good. I'll do another set this store. Yeah, 100% it's also so embarrassing so like yeah That's it if I was set tonight at the improv I bomb all good. I'll do another set this store
Starting point is 01:15:09 No, so it's like when I bomb you like oh man, I didn't go on. Yeah, all good. I'll go I'll go redeem myself tomorrow Fighting say it knocked out. I get six months to think about it and then I got to get the backlash online Yeah, I saw him one time when I went to pick him up after the Aralovsky loss, I think, and the Rogan thing. And as after John's, Travis Brown, of a black guy. And I, no, this is off Main Street in Venice. We're at Groundwork's Coffee.
Starting point is 01:15:38 He trained so hard for this. Brand new's meet me for coffee. Yeah, he trained so hard. I was with him the whole time. He trained so fucking hard and Travis Brown comes in and Brennan just didn't want to fight and Long story short and on top of just hitting fucking Brennan They call it off. It's done. And he goes like this at he I come over to him as he gets out of the cage And he goes I tried I go it's okay. It's okay because I tried I go it's okay
Starting point is 01:16:03 And you go and I see you, I go, it's okay, it's okay, because I try it, I go, it's okay. And you go, and I see you, and I go, I'm picking you up, it's the next day, two days later. No, it was after, yeah, it was actually, it was really nice. Yeah, before when you're just, you're just lowest point in your life, and I remember I took a picture of you and I have the picture. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Black guy, I'm gonna tank top. And you just said, I'm gonna tank top. I'm gonna take this picture of you. I'm gonna pull the just a Dink top I'm gonna take this picture of you the I'm all fin on it taking this picture right now because this is the lowest point of your life very important to document The bright side car goes low-spoin your life on let me talk about the whole there stand there and oh my god And we had it and it was just like well here's the we're in the valley sometimes you're at the top of the mountain Other times you gotta get to the valley
Starting point is 01:16:42 But I love you one mountain is the the what the beginning of the mountain, other times. You gotta get to the belly. It's start of one mountain is the, what, the beginning of the next mountain. It's top of the first. I love that it's true. It's anything to be able to be like, is you know, this was a, you're gonna have a false summit after this. You know, you've seen Rocky, right?
Starting point is 01:16:55 Yeah, you're, here's the thing, you're in a stream. And you wanna get to a Michael pond or Michael Blake. And then you climb the mountain. And then the false summit was just, oh, I guess there's another valley. So you're gonna do that. And then you're gonna out and then the fall summit was just oh I guess there's another valley so you do that and then you're gonna be on the plains for a while. It's like I'm gonna say straight into the plains for a little bit
Starting point is 01:17:11 and then you'll valley again. Is there any other way? Is there any other way in life? Is there any other way than to eat dicks most of the time? Especially that here's when you everybody here has been in these situations and thank God. I'm gonna say everybody here's eaten dicks. Everybody here's eaten you everybody here has been in these situations and thank God. Everybody here is eating. Everybody here is eating. They're all eating dick people. Everyone here has a dick in their mouth. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Everyone of us here at least has been in a rowboat in the middle of the ocean with no land and sight and no paddle. That's the nature of real chaos where you're like, I'm in the middle of a rowboat and I don't know. I can't see land and I don't actually don actually don't think I'm gonna make it back. I actually have no strength in my arms to paddle. You know? And I think that, again, just to go to Dear Jonah,
Starting point is 01:17:50 it's like that stand-up special, I was sort of like, well, we gotta say it three times. That stand-up special, I was just like, God, please let this go amazing, because I financed it myself and I was gonna finance the second one. I was like, please, please, please, the different animal. Yeah, and I was like, please let this go well.
Starting point is 01:18:10 And so many things had gone bad that when it went amazingly well, it was just so great. And I remember Kate and I, she was there for that special. And I remember, we sort of finished the second of Friday. We had this thing with Jonah. I was like, this is it. And we just went back to, I'd rent a penthouse because I was like, we're not gonna finish this thing and then go into like a shitty hotel room.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I was like, we need to, let's actually, let's actually, let's actually, let's actually, let's flex a little. And so we got that and we just went back to this fucking room and just partied. We just, we're like, we're like, yeah, 100%. That's my favorite way to party.
Starting point is 01:18:51 It's just her and me, because she's, we're like, just in college. So when it's, when we're ready, when it's appropriate, the time comes, it is, it gets messy. It's the best possible. Yeah, it is bananas. And so we just did that and we kept saying that we're like, we needed this.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Like this is so awesome that this happened. It's real. It's Kate coming like it shows the shape of your heart and I didn't want to be like, just shut, that's fucking weird to say. So I just was like, that's awesome. That's a really great expression. Give me the whiskey now.
Starting point is 01:19:23 And so, but when it's those things, right, then you love them so much more. There's so much more celebratory. Smellin' the roses. I think when you go get it, when you go and you have the worst fuckin' stuff, to me when that's happening, and I'm still like, wait a second,
Starting point is 01:19:42 I'm a stand up comic, people are so nice to me in New York or walked in the street and something like I love you, man. I'm like you're sure and that's great And I'm married to this like homie from college who happens to be banging Yeah, just a really good looking lady where when we walked down the street We were like he must be rich, you know or something. He's got an eight inch or somewhere in there. Yeah, or a black milliter. It's somehow.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Yeah, it's somehow on there. He's going on there. He's going on there. This doesn't seem right. Does she work for him? Does he work for her? And when you can be at those really low points and still be able to be like,
Starting point is 01:20:19 God damn, I got some great friends. And then you know your life is great. Correct. And when it gets those really high points, then you can really, really get into them. And so I think that's a big part of it. Have you noticed that people have been saying correct more? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Because you guys both just said correct. I said I've been saying it a long time. I believe that because you make fun of your age. But I am concerned that no one says right anymore. I think it's really weird. And it's been happening everywhere, and I bring it up and no one is paying attention. I've never been noticed.
Starting point is 01:20:53 It's a fucking strange thing. I just think, I feel like it's like a tie. I've used the misinformation of all the social media. Correct, correct. Not a mis-abrenation. It's down to weird to say it, but it feels like a Twilight Sun thing. No one knows they're saying correct. I'm not saying anymore. It's a to weird to say it, but it feels like a Twilight Sun thing. Down to the one that is your saying correct.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I'm not saying anymore. It's a New York thing, like me and my friends in New York you always said a long time ago. You said something like, well, but he'll also punch you in the face. Something like you go, correct. In other words, that's funny. What we're doing is we're correcting.
Starting point is 01:21:18 What I do, I use it when you're correcting, like, and Nate, Nate and I remind you, right? You can fuck around with him, but you pull his tail for long and I'll pull your head off. Yeah, well, that's correct. Yeah, yeah, correct. But I've got to see that's the perfect way. It's not for me.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I've got to tell you I came from Brock. Sir, you, so you're okay, you look better. Correct. Correct. Which way are you supposed to turn? Laughter, correct. Well, no, it's better this way. You can ask me a chin on that one. Nice guy, he's not gonna put a camera. Well, no, it's better than that. He's a nice guy.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I got chin on that line. Nice guy. I put a camera in you, but I know you'll be pissed. No, no, no, you use a like, it's always a reminder. Good guy, fucking great guy. You fuck with him, kill your family. Correct. I think that's the right way to use that.
Starting point is 01:21:59 But now everyone's stopped. One day, everyone stopped saying, right? Or yes. Yes. It's just correct Right is right is the lazy kind of like I'm listening to you and I'm letting you know I'm listening to you But when you say Miami has the best looking women on the planet and then if I say that is correct sir Yeah, but I say if you say that I say you are married
Starting point is 01:22:20 who are married. And I say thank you. But you say correct, correct. Correct. And she'll beat your fucking ass. Correct. But also if you say Miami is the best looking women, I go right. That sounds like I'm doubting it.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Right. Right. There you go, right, you're right. Yeah. We often do that. No doubt. Well, no, there's an argument when you go like this, you go yeah, yeah, but.
Starting point is 01:22:44 You know, I think you do right. I think go like this, you go, yeah, yeah, but I think you do right. I think you tell me what do we do? My auntie has that Miami has the best working women. I usually go, oh, how you come? That's it. No, it's how I say correct. When I come, I go correct. Are you coming? Correct. Correct. Are you a right? Correct. Correct Correct correct correct correct correct correct correct correct correct correct correct correct correct Now I had a lot of ground that's it man. Do we have a lot of it? It's been so correct. We got emotional. I Want to get emotional. I hope that people make it all the way through just like dear Joe And I'm hoping people watch all the way through
Starting point is 01:23:25 They will they will the ending is so absolutely amazing. Yeah, I'm excited for you guys to see it No, you're you might shed some mant ears. I don't know you have right now the front runner for old Denver comedians, man I've been a fan for a hot cycle. I'm hoping well. I love that you're from Denver. Isn't it weird how I'd like to exclude you from this? Please do incorrect Weird how, and I'd like to exclude you from this. Please do. Incorrect. It is weird how people from Colorado, specifically Denver, people in Colorado, I get along with all of them.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Oh yeah. I really haven't met a lot of people. And I think it's because if you grew up in Colorado, the weather is so amazing that you're happy. You're just automatically kind of, as more days of such. And that's not changed. And that's not changed, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Did you start at the company works no and she would never really work me i started in chicago she would never really work me and then she still kind of didn't and then i got to a point i was like i'm just going to do the gothic theater and because i'm a denver i they really really um i have a very strong Denver following, and then I have a small group of people in Denver that feel very strongly about me.
Starting point is 01:24:31 And so I am kind of controversial there, but even when I know a lot of you, it's like, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a weird, it's a Colorado thing, and everybody, I've met a couple of people from Colorado, even people that live there, and they're just cool.
Starting point is 01:24:45 They're nice. Really get along with them, they're nice. Where are you from originally? Saturday, Arabia, Philippines. That was the same. I've never seen that. It's a lot to get into. I've never seen it all my life.
Starting point is 01:24:54 But when do you work in New York? But Wendy at ComedyWorks, she wouldn't pass me forever. And I was like, I grew up idolizing that place. I told my age, I'm like, yeah, get me in there. I love Wendy. So then finally, I'll give them a Wednesday. So I did a Wednesday, she watched the show,
Starting point is 01:25:09 and then the following year, she offered me a weekend. But for four years, they wouldn't let me in there. It's a great club. Amazing. That sometimes it can be a real low-dow drunk and disaster, for sure. Yeah, just right off the open. Hey, my audience is like, but God, the Gothic people really come.
Starting point is 01:25:25 And it's, I've, I want to do a special there. I'm sure you haven't gotten the pen out yet. I did, I did my HBO special there and it was great. But the Gothic is, it's just cool. It's a rock club, it's on Broadway. It's just the sounds that you kind of 500. Oh, perfect. And it's great.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And it's kind of, it's got a really cool look. But, you know, as a person from Denver, yeah, you're always excited to meet somebody else because there aren't a lot of us in sort of the stand-up community. I think you probably meet people from New York and you're like, fuck this guy, but you meet people, and then, but the majority of New Yorkers, I think, are really cool because, especially New York City, there is this unspoken thing where it's like If you can do it here, we can do it anywhere. It's like it's like in a surfer and Hawaii. Yeah, I can't know what I mean like New York You came to play. Yeah, you're like
Starting point is 01:26:16 Boston it's nice because you're like you're a quiet racist You're quiet. Well correct Any town that doesn't you can't get away with nonsense, right? Working class town, New York and Boston, they're not gonna lap it you unless you fucking know it. Because they just go, hey man, I work for a living. What are you fucking saying? They don't care how they make you laugh and fucking dummy.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Like that's, yeah. And I think, you know, there is a nice thing about that. But yeah, a New York audience will change drastically as to how they feel about you when you say i live in new york uh... when you're like i live in a man i live there in the house okay that's really hard but if they think of this guy lives in los angeles and he's just in town doing stuff with a quick this is a quick and yeah what are you on tour teacher i am on tour
Starting point is 01:27:04 bring up to that and jay mill Miller does not have a website.com, TJ Miller does not have a website.com, because the guy on TJ Miller.com wanted to grand in like 2003, and said, I guess you don't know how search engines work. You piece a shit. He didn't email him back. Louisville.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Yeah, Louisville coming up, I've got a tober, a board skank pass. And then Washington, DC, the 20th and 21st. Great area. And yeah, it's a lot of fun. So go TJMiller, just not at website.com. Instagram is teenage millionaire because that's how I dress a little bit. You sort of change a lot more.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Yeah, that's real. You look like a high schooler who's really confident, but before you leave, you look in the mirror for like a full ten. And I'm like, you're like, how does this even work? I know, the fatigue, yeah, I shouldn't be talking about it. Oh yeah, badger motherfucker, right there. The greatest description I've ever heard. I think it's good.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Yeah, it could be real, it could be real. It could be real. And then not T.J. Miller and Tick Tock and Twitter as if somebody, as people use that, but subscribe to my YouTube. And the biggest thing is watch Dear Jones. Watch the guy, they'll share it. Dear Jones, he's one of the finest dudes in the world.
Starting point is 01:28:15 He's from Denver. Yeah, it is. It's a Colorado thing, you guys. Hey, Colorado, everyone from Colorado should watch it unless you're a terrorist. How about that? Exactly. That's the message.
Starting point is 01:28:23 If you're a masher, don't watch it. I mean, San Jose this weekend. Yeah, you are. San Jose in Probe October 13th of 15. That's this Thursday Friday Saturday. Next week, I'm at, tell your pops come by. So like city wise guys, shout out to Keith. I love fucking Keith.
Starting point is 01:28:38 October 20th through 22nd is wise guys. And then I end October in Calgary. I'm at the rooftop on the 27th, that's the Thursday. And then I added a show on Friday, though Thursday's almost sold out. Houston, San Antonio and I'm sorry, November is in Texas, San Antonio and Houston. Get your tickets, F-A-T-K-Z.com or thickboy.com.
Starting point is 01:28:59 This weekend, Bridgeport, Connecticut Stress Factory, October 13th, 14th. Yeah, we're doing it. Have you done that? You love it. You love it? Yeah, love it. Sean McGillinois, Sean McGillinois, Chicago Mimpro stress factory October 13th 14th have you done that you love it factory. Yeah love it. Sean McGillinois Sean McGillin Prob October 29th. Nope. We're gonna talk about it.
Starting point is 01:29:12 So comedy zone Charlotte North Carolina November 10th, 1112 then Naples Florida December 1. Yeah, I'll have to hooks really funny too, because they're all older, but the guys like my name is Captain Bryant and you're like nice to meet you, Brian. He's like captain Brian. Dude, I went I went, hey went hey I'm almost 40 to have to call you captain it was I appreciate yeah because he is I went all right captain what you know the back he feels a douchebag that gets your captain like you're Brian I got what is such a nice guy yeah so Brian Spina I know
Starting point is 01:29:40 such a nice guy like you know we're actually real deal stand-up comics because everybody had to read where their dates are. That's how fucking insane our lives are. They were like, next week in a, I'll be, I know. Naples floored out. True. You said no idea? And you don't remember where you were.
Starting point is 01:29:56 People be like, where were you? Last week in here, like, I don't, you can check my website. I had fucking, and knees you, I was like, I can't remember. I just talk to the CT, my brother was like, did you hear her here last year? I'm like, she's my daughter man. You don't remember?
Starting point is 01:30:11 No, it doesn't open that often, but you guys, sometimes you wake up and you don't know where you are. Yes, yes. You're like, where am I exactly? Yes, yes. Because hotel rooms all pretty much look the same. No.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And then I did a thing, I'm still kind of doing it right. I try and stay at like a cool hotel. That's what I've been doing lately. And it's good, but it's like, you're still in a hotel. So the part of me is that I don't need that. Yeah, that's time. I do our bambi. Do you really?
Starting point is 01:30:33 Yeah, that's brilliant. I never thought about that. And I do it with these, you don't feel as much on the road. Yeah, that's really fun too. Like TJ, we fucking love you dude. You know what, just best. Just do it, Jonah. Denver's finest.
Starting point is 01:30:44 I love it. You're the captain. Thank you guys to be on the fire in the kit. You know what just best old dear Jonah Denver's finest. I love it. You're the captain guys to be on the fire in the kit. You're the best fan of both of you. You're over. We love you man. Don't really care for the podcast. I'm gonna listen to it. Certainly won't listen to this episode.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I would. Because I was there in the end. Because I lived it. It was a duet. I lived it. And also correct. So yeah, yeah. This is my favorite podcast ever.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Ever. TJ we love you brother. This is fine kid. Thank you. We're out. And also correct. It's so yeah, yeah. This is my favorite podcast ever.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Ever. TJ, we love you brother. This is fun. Thank you.

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