The Fighter & The Kid - Ep. 849: Brendan & Bryan React to Liver King Getting Exposed

Episode Date: December 1, 2022

The boys talk the true cost of owning Bugatti's, how Brendan treats his sports cars that makes him unusual, the US Men's Soccer team defeating Iran in the World Cup, Jake Paul's call out of Paddy Pimblett and Paddy's apparent willingness to spar with Jake, then they do a deep dive on Derek from More Plates More Date's doing an hour long video exposing email correspondence between Liver King and an anonymous bodybuilding coach detailing his alleged cycle use despite his previous emphatic denial that he has ever taken any form of PEDs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the fight on the kids It's the fight on the kids This is really the fight on the kid Come on, baby Yeah, we're good, Chin. I like that cardigan Very sick, baby Cardigan, buddy Holiday cardigan keeping his mid body warm.

Gotta keep the mid body warm. It is a little chilly out. It is a little chilly out. I like it very much. Where's daddy? We both got seven-day-in flights tomorrow. Daddy's got a seven-day-in flight. Let's five-day-in go time.

Going on Naples, Florida, our boy Eric and Virginia, I can't wait to hang with him. That's the nice guy. The best guy. And so that's off the comedy club. Now, Baba, I'm going to be there Thursday Friday Saturday. Now, it's a thing a little bit. There's Sunday too.

There's Sunday too. Yeah, I take him the Lord's Day. I'm pushing against the Sabbath because Florida makes me feel a little unholy. And here's the thing. Well, Naples doesn't. Yep. And it's looking like... It's looking like... It's looking on the Saturdays on its way to be sold out,

which is very surprising on a Sunday in Naples, but people come out for laughs. Sunday. Well, it's a Sunday, Baba, but listen, I like Naples. I stay at a very cool hotel. I got the beach. I got, I'm bringing baby and wifey. Interesting move.

Yup, interesting move move baby and wifey That's what happens to be 55, Bob. Yeah, I'd rather spend time with your little nugget. Yeah, okay That's gonna work that he's got some stuff to do and then I'm gonna eat I'm gonna eat now every time I come back from a show Eric Has got he's the spread he's got the spread and's got, bro, let me just open some wine. But Eric, it's a million o'clock. He has tiger's thick there too. I bet.

I bet. He's like, look, look, a little wine. I'm like, but that's a hundred acre wine. That's a $600 wine. I mean, literally, he's just a fan of the show. He literally gave me a, last time, he gave me a wheel of cheese. He's a bit about the wheel of cheese. It was a wheel of cheese.

All I did was eat cheese and the best prosciutto. And then all the, the, the antipasto. And then you know how I repaid them? What? Blow up his back. That's what you got. I did not feel good. All that octopus, the wheel of cheese.

We spent so much time together, like I remember the last day, we closed that place down at three in the morning and we're laughing and fucking around and making videos the whole fucking time. Yeah, it's a great dude. Ah, what Crazy great dude. What a great time.

Great dude. The best. Naples, gods, elevator. Uh, yeah, there's now here's the thing about Naples and I always tell the story and this is no bullshit. In the middle of the pandemic, when I was even a little apprehensive when I was like nobody really knew and it was it was what it was. Uh, I'm doing, um, stand up and when I tell you that

not only were people not masked or six feet apart, they were 80, 70 and 80. Sharon Shrim cocktail. Sharon Shrim cocktail and laughing and screaming. And I was like, these people are hardcore. They were coughing. much. They were hardcore. Because I was there too during the period of time. They don't care. No, they're welcome. I was like, all right. Well, you know you're the... Demo that. You get it.

You guys are blah blah. They were like, you know what the hurricane will wash all this COVID away. Oh, get taught. By the way, that hurricane hit an April so hard that on 5th Avenue, you know, 5th Street, or whatever it is. The only street, really.

Now, I don't know if you know this. People were taking boats. Oh yeah. Up the fucking street didn't hit Virginia thank God because I would have had a problem now you know we're the best literally the both best the most expensive car collection museum like kind of automobile museum in the United States is that right no naples really because I said this to Sam Tripoli and he goes, well, that's the swinger capital of the world. And it's where a lot of the women have,

and this is his words, Nazi helmet tits. And I don't know what that means. But I guess it's like hard with like, I guess there's a lot of, there's older women with, well, the women with very fake breasts. Hard. And then the skin, that's a tougher operation. That's a tough, that was a very interesting. I thought that was a very interesting description.

Yeah, I was a very interesting description. I feel like there's some other descriptions there. I was like, all right. Shout out to Sam. Nobody better than Sam at coming up with, you know what matter, I mean, you're not in the cars of you to appreciate it. I mean, Jay Leno keeps some cars there, Adam Corolla.

I mean, you're talking, they have one of ones, they have a Paul Newman car there. Like when I do Naples, my dad, don't care about my comic. Literally flying there. Is that right? Same week on there. Who could I do Naples, my dad don't care about my comedy. Literally flying there. Is that right? Same week I'm there. Who go that show on Saturday night? He's just going because that car museum's there.

Wow. J goes every time. And you go there and you just look at that those cars. You have it, they're like Bugatti's. They have like a McLaren F1 there, original, and it's J Leno's, it's sick. You're all time, if I say to you right now, and I'm gonna count to, now hold on. I'm gonna count to seven okay it's gonna be seven seconds

careful it's you loaded question is it in car in the world see this is the problem I know it's a lot I'm gonna give you any car you want dream car oh starting now one one thousand two and thousand Bugatti uh Shire on five thousand Bugatti yeah Bugatti what the thing is the Shiron, the new one. The Shiron. Yeah. Bring that up, Chan. The Bugatti Shiron.

What's that, what's that gonna run me? Uh, there's like the new one. There's, they have one new one. They only made 16 of them. That one, I think they only made 60. And here's the thing, to get the new one, you have to be a previous owner of two Bugatti, which are both well over $2, 3, $4, $5 million.

Oh. So you gotta be, uh. Oh well over two, three, four, five million dollars. So you got to be, oh boy. Yep, that's street legal. Oh yeah, daddy. That's street legal. Now it's going to go about, you ready for this? Yeah. About 285 miles an hour.

Now there's no one like you because you're one of those guys that will take that car and actually drive it every day. Oh, that thing's going to the grocery store. That's what's so crazy about you. Oh yeah. No one does that. No. You did that with your Ferrari.

On stop. And what people don't realize is when you buy a Ferrari the way you do, you're actually getting paid to drive that car. It's a hustle, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's investment. It's all the cars are investments.

Yeah. I mean, when you see a guy driving that car, Chance Starr, he's going to sell that car for more than he made. Correct. Wow. Look at that thing. And there's a waiting list and getting,

you can't just go into a, I can't just go into a Bugatti dealership, say I wanna Bugatti. I can't. You gotta, you can't. I can't, no, no, no. I mean, you literally have to have, so it's the same as like, same with Fri or Porsche.

Unless you wanna pay crazy over asking price, like that Bugatti, let's say you didn't, you went in the club. Oh my God. Look at that. That one Bugatti's $12 million. Those are $8.6 million. You ain't even touching those.

That's how much you're doing. Why is so expensive? Dude, they're so rare. Like I said, some of them, there's only like six of them. There's only eight of them in the world. There's 30 of them in the world. They're the same company that makes the motorcycles.

Yeah. But then also, here's a catch that. Yeah. So, you're gonna have to have, thinking how much money you have to have to afford a $2.9 million car. Well, you've got to take it. It's $6 million after taxes, right?

Yeah, and that's gotta be money. Other than, you know, more good. Just, it's just lying around. Yeah, it's fun money. But that's an investment money. So, the way people invest in the house, you can invest in that. Yeah, okay.

But again, you're not gonna be able to really touch it. So, I have a big question. But then also, here's the problem. Yeah. Chin, bring up how much is maintenance on a boot gaudy every year? I think it's around $60,000. No matter what, no matter if you put one miles or

a hundred miles in. No matter if it's the oil change, they have to take the entire engine out. That, where do you want to take it here? Oh, no, no, no matter kids, the oil change, they have to take the entire engine out. Where do you want to take it here? Oh, no, no, no, we're gonna have, you're gonna have to ship it back to France, right? You have to ship it back to Europe for them to do all that.

What? Yeah, they have to ship it up, pick it. What are you talking about? So, Sergin, maintenance, Bugatti, cost nearly $500,000. Every four years, Bugatti has always been in a toy store of high servicing maintenance costs, which is considering the asking price for the cheap small is 2.5 million.

I mean, but I'm sorry, sir. 500 grand every four years is obnoxious. That's fuck off. Have a free, make it free. I know, include it in the deal. I mean, why? They have to take the entire end? So, so this one says make better engines. So the car, so here goes, let's see, a car

that has a starting price of seven figures and always extremely high upkeep. But how? But how? Yeah, you're right. I'll get to that. But how much will maintain a they run and tip top shape after the cost you set you back?. Manning says Bugai recommends all fluids have to be changed each year and that cost a hefty rate. This is every year, $25,000 for the oil and other fluids. So there's a lot. The car has a whopping 16 drain plugs or twice as many compared to any other exotic vehicle

or regular cars. The drain plug's not easy accessible as the mechanics have to take out the rear wheels and brakes, as well as the lining on the rear fenders, along with one underneath the back of the car. Moving on to the wheels, all right? So Bugatti advises that the owners change the tires once every couple of years,

a fresh new set costs an eye-watering $38,000. Which were just the wheels. You have to be replaced every 10,000 miles for a staggering 50,000 to the math. We're looking at around 100,000 or just the wheels. You have to be replaced every 10,000 miles for a staggering 50,000 to the math. We're looking at around 100,000 maintenance costs in just a couple of years of only. This car ain't for everybody. It's not for everyone.

It's where 100 grand is 10 bucks. That's what you have to have. Now, many have two veirons and one off Shiran Air Mez on the way. So the bills are even higher. Okay, I don't know how to make sense of any of this, but I mean, the love of you have to be at just, well, a lot of people give them,

they're not driving them, right? They're just, they're just like, art piece. Like some people have them, I've seen, you know, these Scrooge McDuck's who have these that Elon Musk of the world. Yeah. The, you know, these guy, the Iron Man's of the word, the Starts, they literally have it in their living room and just rotating. Okay, now let me ask you this

That makes sense. Let me ask you this Where we going? Oh, it's a centerpiece. I go ahead and go and start that up. Get started up now kids are sleeping Now now many shops driving it everywhere There's a thing and you did this with your Ferrari and what people don't realize is that I do the GT2 Yeah, the problem is if it gets with your Ferrari and what people don't realize is that. I do it with the GT2. Yeah. The problem is if it gets dinged.

That's gonna get us now. Hold on. Yeah. Now in a Bugatti, I'd imagine if you get dinged, you're gonna need the guys insurance, because well, I would imagine any kind of bodywork. Well, you know, you see, you're not gonna use the old noggin. Okay. Well, you know, see, you're not, you gotta use the old noggin. Okay.

Well, you're not gonna want to report to insurance, because what happens to you reporting insurance, that gets put on an official file on the car fat. Yes, I got it. So then the value goes, ee-e-e-e-e-e-e. No matter what, you know, if I take it back to Ferrari. Well, you would go and pay cash,

you'd trend for now to your way, or go to a private Bugatti dealer, your cash, let's not put this on record because it's going to ruin the belt. Now it's just like a ding on the door, it's not going to get reported. We've got a fender bender or you've got to replace a door that gets all put down on the history and you're screwed. So you crash something, you're on the hook daddy. So that's a hundred grand or something.

Oh yeah, it's you're screwed. I mean, and forget getting actually when they, I've seen for ours that get pretty beat up and they go it's totaled. I'm like, you see like Travis Scott pulled up to that catch restaurant, Hollywood one, my favorite restaurants, he pulled up there in the new Bugatti and I was like, oh, he has a Bugatti. That's not it. It's not it. Even how much money he makes is like, you know,

how big of a gear head you'd have to be. So, so, so, so people, somebody landed to him. Oh, 100% some dealer day gets the shine. Where do you get it? And you know, some Beverly Hills Bugatti or whatever, some private dealer landed to him that night or something like that. That night. That's not for you. Now they have insurance when they lend it to Travis Scott.

That's part of their in their business. I'm sure. I'd be nervous driving that. I would be nervous driving that. Unless I paid for it then it's we're driving like we still. And you're driving it's grand theft auto. You are. Until I get a call and he's like, hey you know if you go over certain miles per hour you have to replace tires You are. Until I get a call and he's like, hey, you know, if you go over a certain amount miles per hour, you're gonna have to replace tires in like next week. It's gonna cost you 50 grand, we're gonna stop driving.

He's that true? It's, yeah, it depends how you drive the car. I'm sorry, but it's exhausting. It's a, but also, hey Bugatti. Yeah. Hey man. Yeah. I wanna drive this.

Hey Bugatti, here's the thing. Make a car for million dollars, 500,000 dollars, that I can drive the fuck out of. Dude, I was watching this, you know, like kids are so into cars, especially with Goddy, so it was like the top fast cars of 222. I mean, if you're not on it, if you're not paying attention, it is mind blowing.

Why? How fast cars are these days? Really? Not talking about the electric blows, you shit. Yeah. Not the Tesla instead, that's whatever, that don't count. I'm talking about like these, these cars, the V8, the V12 was 1400 horsepower, 1600 horsepower, 0 to 60, all of them around 2.6, which is fine. Yeah. Some three, they don't care. They care about top end speed. Yeah. Oh my god. So that's a Sherana super sport. Oh god. 305 miles per hour.

That's so fucking nuts. Those co-coings. You need a track. 277 miles per hour. That's so fucking nuts. Look, coings, you need a track, 277 miles per hour. You need a track, or four or five, let it not. Hey, hey, hey, excuse me, sir. You see what I do in that GT2 RS down to Penga when I come home from doing sets. It is dangerous. It's, it's ignorant.

It's ignorant. We in the ignorant. It's ignorant. We're in the ignorant. It's ignorant. I'm delivered. I'm like cars anymore. Tassas, tassas, tassas, tassas. Well, you know, you're gonna get, I'm sorry to say this to you.

We're moving into an economy that's gonna outgrow oil. And that includes cars. You will be alive, by the way. Oh no, we will be. Oh no, no, no, no, that's happening. That's happening way faster than you think. Not a chance. Very way faster. In fact, in about 11 years, we're gonna be there no, no, no, that's happening with that's happening way faster than you think. Not a chance. Very way faster.

In fact, in about 11 years, we're going to be there. Now listen. Not yet. No, I promise. I've looked at all the stats. I've looked at the stats. I've looked at the stats. And I don't think.

I'm sure what your buddy showed you. Now listen, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Oh yeah, Texas and go green. Oh yeah, dude. What's that? You know China's green? How's the pollution going? No, Bob, what I'm saying is that all the cars you're going to be on, you're going to be driving on an electric car. I'm sorry. No chance. Yeah, because they're not going to make him illegal.

Yeah, I know. They're just like an ass. They're not going to have anywhere in 23 to do it. And you're no more a gas and you're going to be driving people again, big guy. Ew. Seriously. I mean, they do that now. Seriously. They do it now. Is that what you're not knowing what a gas and you're gonna be driving people again, big guy. Ew, seriously! I mean, they do that now. Seriously, they do it now. Is that what you're driving?

Is that what you're driving around my kids? Not a chance. You're gonna get that and you'd fucking deserve it. Not a chance. You fucking deserve it. You won't be alive by the time we're green. And your dumb cars that you have are gonna be worth. All the money.

No money. Oh, all the money. Because people are gonna be like, I'm not driving cars or things. Worth so much money. So, I mean, all the money. Because people are going to be like, I'm not trying to think. I'm not trying to think. I'm not trying to think. I'm not trying to think. I'm not trying to think. I'm not trying to think.

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They own all of it. They're ahead of us way ahead of us So you're just leaning more into China. How fun with that communist? Hey, wait a minute. You can't say how to comment Yeah, you can't say that although I will say that my Piece of my Tesla is a bigger carbon footprint. Oh way more so than my okay Don't fuck people don't understand. Oh, way more so than mine. Okay, don't fuck it. That's what people don't understand. Don't go the way more than yours. Everyone judges, you learn a Tesla. Now the nickel and the, what it takes,

is it making it? You're looking at thing, you know? You're driving an I pad. No, no dude, my car is, my car is sick handling, sick speed. Yeah. It's so quietly dangerous. I call it the quiet assassin. I call her the, the white assassin.

Not because I'm racist, just because it's, got white interior and white, white can't you. Are you called the quiet assassin. I call her the white assassin, not because I'm racist, just because it's got white interior and white can't you? I called the white knight. Yeah, I called the white knight. Yeah. Remember what I used to call my red prince? Who was the red ram? The red ram.

I stole that from a comic, a great comic guy who used to open for me, fuck, damn. He called it the red ram. He called his charger, the red ram. Oh, he just took it like that. I called it the red ram. He called his charger the red ram. Oh, he just took it like that. I stole it. Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm at least you came out about it. No, I'm not. You're not Carlos.

I always said that. I always said that. I drove it off a lot and I made them call it the red ram. No, I know you said that, but I didn't know you took that back from someone. See how the... See how my fingers are like... Rams, I stole that. Let's take a little break from Chad and all things, liver king and everything else interesting. I have a question for you.

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It's all debatable whether it's bad. Now. I'm sure you've seen the news on former finally kid guest it's all debatable whether it's bad. And I'm sure you've seen the news on former finally kid guest, the liver king. And still welcome back at any time. And still welcome back at any time, the liver king. Now let's get into it. So this person, is this bar stool sports yet? So Billy Hot takes what just found out

liver king may have done steroids, utterly shocking could have never predicted this. I mean, I mean, yeah. And so the guy who actually, I like this dude, the place more dates, Derrick guy, he's great. He released and marked you know more on this. Now Derrick at Place More more dates posted an email from liver king's does it is doctor or is it some advisor? Like isn't there a hippolols here?

Like isn't this illegal? Is it something you can be sued here? He was sent a heavily redacted emails from a bodybuilding coach who the liver king was corresponding with so wasn't just one email. It was like back and forth like tell me everything about you because if you are gonna be a bodybuilding coach you have to king was corresponding with. So was it with just one email? It was like back and forth like tell me everything about you because if you are going to be a bodybuilding coach, you have to know all these things. Everything's routine,

what they're taking now, what they want to take, what their goals are, what their problem areas are. Give me pictures of yourself doing these poses. Okay. Which actually pushed back and he's like, I have no tie. I don't know what these pose are. I need to do this in the next 30 minutes. Yeah. It was one of the emails. But he forwarded this on. We don't know who that person is. He forwarded it on to Derek. Um, and Derek went through all these emails. That would be more speculative if it was just that you go, maybe somebody Photoshopped it, but then

Derek looked at that email that sent the emails to this bodybuilding coach and checked in his own inbox and found that he had had similar emails requesting consultations on HCH and Ann Bawksdale. From Liverpool. From you know this guy at ancestral supplements, whatever. And that's Liverpool. Either Brian Johnson or the Liverpool, whatever it is, but like we're presuming it's the same email. Yeah, and also another email from somebody on his team like asking something in that vein too. But also it was before he went public, so it wasn't like in the midst of his fame.

It was before. Right before. Because he also explains the email, he's like, I'm gonna launch this, you know, primal, whatever it is. Like primal, what's his primal, something, he's like, before I launch this, like, I'm putting up, my money investing my time in this,

I'm hiring a team, like, we're trying to reach one million followers like with my positive message And he's like I got a you know look great like I look the part. Here's what I'm currently doing my body's not responding to the H.H.H Correct I GF one. I'm taking 11,000 dollars a month in H.H. or as he's overpaying But so it's like and then he breaks down the rest of all the shit he's doing. And I guess, like this was coming, right? And then you and I get some blowback is when Liverpool came on hair, fans, but I can't believe he didn't ask for it

if he's on steroids. Fucking what, I'm, listen, let me just say this. This is not news. Is everybody surprised that we all know, everybody knew, and in fact, it was always tongue and cheek with this guy. Look, this guy, Brian Johnson, has been playing a character. This was a marketing thing.

He's been playing a character. It seems to have worked, and it was always done tongue and cheek at the end of the day. The guy is saying workout. He's saying workout gets sun, sleep, and eat. eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat Adam Levine likes other women. So the thing is, is with Liverpool King, like... Adam what? Adam Levine. Yeah.

Yeah. The singer. Yeah, he loves chess. Yeah, I mean, he's rockstar. Right. Right. But it's nothing like when I came out of one's eye, I can't believe I'm like, oh wow.

I don't realize how stupid people were. I mean, so even with him, it's like, when Liverpool came on here, if off the bat, you're like, come on, dude. But you're on steroids, right? Now, he's notoriously, I mean, he's denied it. But he also talked about it. Like, who was it? Who said, was it Logan Paul who said,

why don't you talk about your steroids? Somebody said, Bradley Martin, I think. Bradley Martin said what? Bradley Martin, because I was talking Bradley, because Bradley's in the community. He's like, I don't get why people are surprised. He kind of like, kind of looted to it on my path. It's based like, you know, kind of was like,

but here's my thing with all this, like if you're surprised, you're just kind of dumbass. Like there's so many sheep out there where, if you really thought he was on steroids, and then be, I don't really care. Because his message overall, his message is health. So if you could please go back to his website, Jim, that's why I went it up. His message overall, his message is health.

So if you could please go back to his website, Jim, that's why I went it up. So his message is health and you look at, you know, cold plunges, you know, cold tub, he talks about sleep, eat, move, shield, connect, cold sun, fight, bond. So the message is so positive. To me, that outshines anything, of course he's on shit. And I hate to tell you guys, whatever,

whether it's Joe Weeder, Arnold Schwarzenegger, whatever book that you got as a kid or whoever you looked up to, they were on shit, man. It doesn't mean they're bad people, it doesn't mean they're cheating the system. And also, and also you gotta realize that liver king was, and it is what it is, was gifted with a foundation, where it's genetically

gifted. So, this stuff, obviously enhances that, but he, people have it confused where, if they take steroids, they think they're going to look like River King or all sorts of work here. You can take all the stuff you want. If you don't have an insane work ethic, it does not matter. So, to me, when River King came in here, I assume he's taking shit, but don't care. But I assume the reason he's successful is because of his disappointment and he does live that lifestyle. Whether or not he's taking steroids, it does not take away from his message. And that's why we've had him on the show.

I don't give him. Yeah, so from me. He's actually a good person. I got a kick out of him going, soBrian mole because I was wearing my invisalign. I always looked at him as a very humorous American character and my buddy Brian Kooley said it best. He goes, I listen to the liver king and he sounds like a multi-level marketer. Absolutely, he sells supplements, he's got a whole business. He came up with a character to sell his business.

He wears, he wears pelts, he wears no shoes or a whole business. He came up with a character to sell his business. And he wears, he wears pelt, he wears no shoes, or a shirt. Restaurant's everywhere. He's got a huge beard. It's a fucking cartoon character. He's doing, he's got a great sense of humor about it. It's a character, I think it is. It's a heightened character, but it's also,

it's a character, right? Is he, is it an exaggerated version of himself? Yeah. But he's actually a really good human being. That's why I care about the guy. Yeah. I don't give a, of course he's on shit. But again, his message overall,

if you did buy into his program, look, prioritize 10,000 steps a day. Well, that's healthy. Take a cold shower. That's healthy. Well, look, we're gonna put a camera. We're gonna put a camera. Yeah.

All that, you gotta remember. And again, if you guys wanna take away from lurking, and this is what's wrong with society, especially social media, is when people are at a certain level, everyone wants to tear them down. They want to take them down. And they're like,

He's a snake-wild mad, because he's a snake- Yeah, well that's a lot. So people are mad because maybe, I would have to see what he said, maybe what he's, if he's selling supplements and a lifestyle, people are mad because he's saying

you can have this body. He's never said that. Right. He's never said, it's my quake. I don't know what he's saying. I'm telling you, we have to be a little careful because we're not sure. We don't know.

I know. I've looked at this. He's never said, if you do exactly what I do on this program, this primal program, you're gonna look just like me and get to my body fat, get to this muscle. No, no. He is whole thing is living a healthy lifestyle. Yeah. Yes, but you could make the argument. You could make the argument that he's talking about a healthy lifestyle.

And if he's doing all these drugs, that's not so healthy. And I think some people are going, hold on, you're pitching health, but you yourself are taking a slew of, let's probably cost them a fortune. And in fact, all the muscle and all this is a result of doing something that's actually artificial, subprimeal, and not healthy. So it is, it grades against the message. So people feel like they're being either live to or that he's lying. The way I looked at this is number one I never bought any of his product. I don't buy it. I'm bought any of his stuff. I just have always found him entertaining as an American character. Obviously he's a good marketer. Obviously he's playing a character and I do agree that what he's saying the message of health

The message that he's saying is healthy. Hey, let me ask you this to your point of you snake oil and all that stuff in line to people Yeah, name someone the fitness space you look up to name name somebody an entertainment that you look up to who's like a strong male Give me one or I'll go chin two, not Mark, Mark knows many other people, but chin, like growing up, who's that? The rock, the rock, Chris Hemsworth. Chris Hemsworth, sure. Brian?

Oh, you're talking about the physical. Whoever, people out there. Yeah, guys, guys, guys, men, men. I admire Jake's work at work. Okay, that's okay. But I'm talking like, no, I'm talking like in the fitness, like entertainment. Oh, I'm sorry. He's not a competing athlete.

Athlete, the athlete, different thing. Stallone, Schwarzenegger, you know? Sure, sure, sure, keep going. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, and there are a couple. He said the rock, there's certain athletes. Oh, the stair, he would make, he would make this look like a short essay

compared to the amount of shit run through the rock's body. Do you care that the rock is jacked and preaching healthy lifestyle and working out, and his whole brand is health. Go back, please. His whole brand is health. Yes, go back to the liver kicker. The rock's entire brand is health.

The rock is talking about longevity on it. There you go. He's like, do you care about like preparing for the role more or longevity? He's like, definitely a longevity. And now do you guys want to do you want to cancel the right? Do you want to take the rock out next? What do you like? You got a pick and choose here. You got a pick and choose. Do you want to take the rock out?

No, no, no, I think so so is it? The rock tonight doesn't matter. It's talking about a guy who is who is selling supplements liver and bone marrow and nutrient dense nose to tail diet, all that stuff. Okay. And there does seem to be, there's a lot of money being made on selling supplements. Which is healthy. And when you sell supplements, it claims a certain outcome. No, I don't have a look at this.

There's no claim that if you take protein, but it's going to look like him. Yeah, I have an implication. Well, yeah, when I was 12, I thought if I took muscle tech, I'd look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Look, it goes back to this, it goes back to this B. If you're surprised that this man was doing stuff.

You deserve it, you deserve it. I mean, you're, that's how Larry. Yeah, then go get a booster shot. I'm not, I'm not, you know, by the way, I still think he's 100% natural on him, sick of my guns. No, but, um, you know, at the end of the day, everybody in Hollywood that you look at,

everyone in Hollywood that you look at is doing some. Now, look at this, this Chris Hanzelworth preaching, uh, he has this whole workout fitness, uh, center power, and an app, and. And an app. And he has an app to get big and stuff like that. Yeah. Should we take him out next? Now, I don't know if you have news or not.

You see when he's getting ready to play Hulk Hogan? You see how massive he got? Hulk Hogan or Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan. So those three jump on there, if we take a piss test, you saw that it is banning, these guys won't be allowed to fight for two years in the UFC. I mean, I hate to break everybody's heart out there.

So just like, yeah, no shit. So just so you know, like when I was gonna do a movie with a big director, he wanted me to gain some weight, muscle and I went to my train. He's a strong man. He's been in gyms his whole life. He was 60 at the time, maybe 55, whatever. And I said, I need to put on, I walk up to him being, you'll like this. And I go, Hey, man, I got to put on 20 pounds of muscle.

Gear. And he goes, he goes, he goes, yeah, I go, yeah, he goes, and how do you want to do that? I go, well, I don't know, I just, maybe we should start lifting heavier and then just give me a diet plan. And he looked at me and he goes, Brian, you're a code hanger genetically, I can't do that now. I never forget, he goes, if you give me two years and I put you on gear, I can maybe get you 20 pounds heavier. There'll be tough. You eat a lot. And even that would be tough, right?

Because I'm not, so when you see a lot of these guys, whether it's Zach Efron, whoever, in these, or if you look at the cast of most of the people in 300. What do you mean most? All of them did. Yeah. Everybody is, everybody would be so amazed in Hollywood. Dambles Aaron said it. Dambles Aaron said, everybody, everybody you see in Hollywood at one point another is doing something. You know, I. I might be the only person. Yeah. I might be the only person on a planet. But you never really, but besides I won't roll my brand.

I mean, that's not your thing. But you know what I'm saying? He's like, of course. Is that, is that, it's the height of naive tape. But, but, but, here's the climbing netty. I'm still there. But here's the thing being, so here's the thing you've got up 300. Remember 300's really start the surge of, um,

fucking the shit you like. Across it. Across it. The, the, the Spartan fucking the shit you like. Crossfit. Crossfit. The Spartan workout, right? Yes. Now, do you care that the gentlemen on the movie who are shredded, right? And obviously there's some graphics and shading and air spraying going on, but still, those guys were shredded.

They start a movement that is actually really healthy. Yeah. Do you care that the start of it was guys that were genetically modified on PEDs? No, the overall message was this cool CrossFit workout. I hate to expose CrossFit, which I'm a big fan of, but even in CrossFit, if you look at fittest on Earth, if you look at the people who are competing in CrossFit, if you think for a second that there aren't some PEDs being used in the CrossFit world. And all you have to do is go to the CrossFit when it first started 10 years ago,

15 years ago, whatever it was, and CrossFit now. Take a look at some of the women in that. We've done this before, but of course, everyone knows this. That's what's so surprising to me, like how outraged some of the people online. Yeah, but a lot of people, a lot of people, I think, don't like to be lied to.

And a lot of people don't like to be They don't like somebody who is claiming ultimate health and very very I will say this about the liberty We have to call people as it is that's natural. We have to call well That's incredible is that is that literally that's not the same person is it I think it is I think it is I think it is I see more on it same person is it I think it is I think it is I think it is I see them around it. Uh, but uh, but uh, can you see anything? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, That's that's that's that's crossfit that's the best in the world. Of course not but here's a thing with Syros again that the Pope don't understand take all the steroids you can find

You're not a back then world you're never gonna be able to be sick athlete the amount of work that they put in to get That level it's crazy not but I do think Baba that the liver king exposed himself because he was very very opinionated and insulting to other people. And I think when you do that, was he insulted? Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think very, very opinionated.

Yes. And a weird way I'm grateful to the recipients that have shed light on this company, it is fucked topic. Do you understand what I'm saying? So when you're that, when you're that opinionated about health, be, and you're're that and you have built a whole empire being that way. He's not the first one to do it. BSN made billions of

dollars selling products with Ronnie Coleman next to the fucking bottle. I understand. I'm just saying that I think when you and that's alluding to look like take this I take Celtic you look like Ronnie Coleman built a whole empire made a fortune by being a sharp profile I call this a sharp profile opinionated I've taken the fight being you know loving like he's the guy you love to hate he's the guy you love she has he has he said anything before on steroids or not the recent ones I can I can be I heard my head one of which would be he did this prank on like he goes here's the real secret and he has like he opens he opens this, like, you know, capsule of whatever, bone marrow and it's like a trend bottle.

And then he, at the end, he goes, this is obviously used to joke. This was my cameraman's idea. I don't even know where to get this stuff. So it's like, he has denied it many, many times. He responds directly on podcast, but he also but he also seemingly has gone out of his way to mock it and be like, but then I had like, I don't even know where to get this stuff. So I guess you'd expect that from anybody

and Bonnie builders of. I will say this. I'll deny that. I like his message on the Hellside of things. If you do live that way, you're gonna definitely feel better and probably live longer. I'm all about that. I do think and he needs to take accountability when the steroids did get brought up to

find a better way to do it. Like the celebrities like yes the rock dude they're politicians with it. You won't get an answer next thing. You're talking about fucking you know, you know, Fiji. Yeah. Yeah. yeah. Why does he, there's a lot of kids look up to him, a lot of, you know, people. Yeah, so, so, so he could have been, and he needs to take accountability if he goes on a show, which I'm trying to help him out, if he goes on a long form podcast

as they were like, express this, he goes, I think this is what I think I'm, I think he should go. I fucked up, I gave you guys the impression that I was all natural, and, you know, I have clearly, and gave you guys the impression that I was all natural and you know, I have clearly and it's out there now, I've dabbled in BEDs and steroids and HGH and all that stuff. Dr. Dabbled a bit.

Well, you know, I'm saying like, I've taken a lot of time and I have taken that stuff and I'm currently on it, but that doesn't take away from the fact my overall message and the lifestyle and the discipline I've lived for 35 years of continuous working out. I think you're in my body, putting the right food, the right food. Well, you can remember watching. But then I would tell him, he'd then I'd say, then I'd go, you know, I think it got his fame like blew up. He went viral so fast that it became this secretive monster.

He's like, okay, well, I've gone too far down the rabbit hole now. I say it's steroids, I'm super fucked. And but someone should've gotten it's there, when they're gonna come for you, dude. It's gonna come out, buddy. Like, we should address this now before we keep going down this road, cause along you wait, the worst it's gonna get.

So you just need to take accountability, fucked up. But the overall message is still there, you know? Yeah, that's a good point, dude. I think it's like, you know, the overall message, ancestral living, there's something to be said for that. It's great. I've got friends who've been doing it way before he came along. It's not for me.

It's great. I've friends in it work for them. I've seen it work. But I do think that at the end of the day, Lesney here is, and I've said this from day one, then, if you're lying in one way or another, and especially if you build an empire on a lie, you're going to get found out. It's going to find you. You're going to get found out.

And you wish somebody from his team, and you're like, yeah, I know it's got out of control. And it's like, you know, you're doing all this stuff, but we should address this at some point. So it's his part by take, delivering a mix of taking PDs on part of my take. And that was a, but no, so he made a joke about it. It was like performing endurance and something like He made the you know it become a different Bradley Martin claim that he admitted it on his show or a looter to it I'd love to see the actual clip because that's what Bradley Bradley told me that like starting Brad last night can I go do have a

Licking I'm saying I'd love to see yeah, I mean to I would do I've never seen it. Yeah, I don't I would I would look it up I saw it. I saw it. You saw it too because you saw the interview. I said, did you clip it out? I had a deal of 10%, 90%. I have to challenge you a little bit. And we talked about the truth. Why do you not tell people about your steroids? This is the great question, right? Because of one of the replies. I think a better question really is.

It's the same question. Do you take things? My answer has been the same because I've always told the truth. And you can say anything whatever you want. But at the end of the day, this've always told the truth. And you can say or think whatever you want, of course. But at the end of the day, this is what my message is really all about, is it's the nine ancestral tenants. And did you know 50 years ago, we had on average 50% higher testosterone? So if you're just thinking about that, we could probably go 50 to 100% higher,

just by doing the nine ancestral tenants. We're back to normal That what most people do with step they try and do steroids to increase the testosterone by 50 to 100% for the most part Well, so I don't know exactly the numbers are but what I'll say is that's like if somebody Have a hundred you know testosterone pretends high and and if they're taking steroids and they want to get up to 1415 hundred or whatever and say we have it's what you can do the same thing with the nine ancestral tenants. No, you can't. And if you do the nine ancestral tenants, this is where he gets in trouble.

I don't know if he can say no. No, no, no. You go in or. No, that's great. But here's a thing. I'm missing the admission. Well, you wait. Do people have that?

I take stuff. Hold on, guys. And I. That's a lot. Hold on. What he just did there was he said, hold on. He said, oh, he did on virtue too. He said, he said, he said, hold on, he said. Oh, he did on Birchow too. He said he said he said That's a great question at the end of the day if you have 700 testosterone you want to bring to 1400 you can you can do that with the the 9 and Central. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not answering the question and he's saying, take do what I'm selling and you don't need steroids.

So I can understand why people are, I'm sorry. Is that not a positive message, O.B.? Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a little snake oil. It's a little snake oil, he did it. Also, he didn't bid it. It's a little snake oil. He did bid it on my show, I'm like, and I can see why people would,

no, we don't, we're not defending. Did you do it on, yeah, it's me tough to do well you can't look up I'm not defending You did that or if I did that you'd call me and go hey, what the fuck are you doing? No, I wouldn't you know I don't know but you do because I know I would say I would say beat here's right There's a I'm not defending the fact that he took steroids. I knew from the I'm saying from the second he walked in this door, I went, oh, he's definitely on it. That was a lot before I've seen it. I can't let him slide on that. That was a last.

Let me see this. This is birds. Here we go. 47 seconds. Hold on. But here's why that doesn't bother me. It doesn't. It doesn't. Name somebody that has a product in the supplement space that's told you the truth. That's going, that's why something's dirty business. That doesn't mean it's right. I'm not excusing anybody. If you sell supplements that don't work, then you're lying.

And I would never do that. You know why, let me, okay, great question. Great question. Let me issues before you go. We've said noted how many supplement companies, the reason I believe in on it, this is not a commercial for on it. Here's why I believe in on it.

I watched fucking Aubrey Markis and Joe Rogan who owned the company, started the company. I watched them take these supplements themselves to Alfa Brain. I watched them with my own eyes over and over. You have to take those supplements. But be, my, my, my, my, my, my, but what other issue are wait, are you mad at the government? They told you about the vaccines and all the show? No, I'm not saying that You know I'm saying it's like we're gonna draw the law are worthy people are going to get

blasted and and Hey When you say you can raise your testosterone to 700 by doing my ancestral tennis, meaning IE, you buy my product. I'm sorry, I have to be honest here. And I think a lot of people agree with that. And that's why we're getting this.

That is a form of, it is. It's a form you're selling something. Smoke your mirrors. You're selling something for a lot of money That is not going to give you the results. You are saying it's giving you you had that I'm sorry But we have to I like this marketing general But that doesn't mean it's right and I'm not saying it is yes, but you can't defend it either Because I'm defending I'm not defending like the guy

That's what I'm saying. He's a good human being here's marketing you smoking mayor Well, but it's also the guy. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying he's a good human being. He's marketing you smoking there. Well, but it's also the supplement. It's a supplement. I think what I would say about this guy is that he is a guy who is at the end of the day, if you do what he's saying, which are the nine essential tenants, you're probably gonna be healthier

than if you do something like play video games, need Doritos or whatever it is, okay? So overall the message is, if you do this, you're probably gonna live a better life. You're gonna be in the middle of it. Let's do it. That's dear to me. So everything seems nothing wrong with that.

No, I think what people are saying is that, hey dude, you're claiming that you look that way because you do that, you look that way because in fact, you do all the PEDs. And you should have somebody that's there the way these Hollywood guys do, like the rock, like your mother's in your ear when you're a kid. That's not right.

And you would never do that and I wouldn't. I mean, I certainly wouldn't. I can't live with myself that way. From day one on this podcast, fucking day one we've had these conversations. We had it with Rogan too. No, I've never assumed that. It's like, no, but I'm saying.

No, never pass my mind. I'm not buying, I'm not selling shit. How many times do we have really big sponsors back in the day? And I said, I don't use that problem. Remember when we lost that sponsor in Toyota? Yeah, because we get it, it was the stupidest read of all time. We can't do it. We should release that.

We could not stop laughing to get through it. So, I was like, man, play that, Chandler, we have that. We do, stop laughing to get through it. So I was like, man. Oh! Play that, Chand, do we have that? We do, but let's just listen to it. Just so this happens. You guys know what I'm saying? Let's button this up. Yeah, we would, it has to be authentic.

Let's button this up. I just think with the liver king, the space that he's in, and I doesn't make it right be to your point. And, you know, but he's doing what every single person does in fitness across the board since the beginning of time. And if you thought he was natural, you're a moron. Yeah.

And it just as was the specifics of his cycle, although people will list the fact that he took like eight different things, I'm not impressed with like the strength of what he's taking. 120 milligrams test, 120 milligrams, deck up, 50 milligrams of div, wind straw, and a lot of HCH, but it's farmer grade, that's where the number of 15 K a month comes from is this should's really expensive. He's taking about 10 I use a day,

which is a high dose, but not unheard of in body building, and then a few other things that are like growth hormone agonist that promote your own body producing, growth hormone, or... Like IGF one? Yeah, and IGF one. So if you take all that growth hormone stuff together, that's not actually that powerful, you know what I mean? And so I think just the missing component is always he works out like a fucking maniac. See, but and if you're pointing you and I talk about.

On the steroids, which in this is before before he is famous before he launched all this brand and then it's a real primal whatever it is. In those emails, he talks about how he works out what he say 14 times a week. He's like, he's a, hey man, I'm doing these workouts. I'm just like holy shit. And he goes, I'm 44 years old. I work out like a savage, I have a prompting time off.

So the workout thing is there. The, all that is there His body whether he was on the stuff or not would be pretty damn good not probably this good But he pretty fucking good the way he eats trains He trains like a straight-up like it's his job like you and he didn't think these when he ate anything like that So we know that's authentic this work ethic and disciplines all things like you would fuck the cross games up You know, you mean like he's on these guys these pros. Yeah, two-day workouts every fucking day So let me see this here. What what is this place? That's how he's screwed this one. I take PED's people say have ab implants

You wait wait wait wait wait wait. We be honest like you you definitely take PED's you know what fuck it I'm gonna be out for the I'll be here. We go I take PED's yeah, I prioritize execute I'll be right here. We go. I think be Edie's yeah, I prioritize execute And dominate every every fucking morning every morning. I let's way to go around It's a political answer, right? It's like if you bring a politician you put them on the spot that and it's to me It's a real art. They're so good at going over here. Not except that I mean yeah, well it's politicians all of them do it Yeah, but with him it's like yeah, I think that he's never really actually admitted it. So what we see here is that again, he's what he just did.

So people have a right to be, and I like, you know, I like the guy. I had a good time with him. But at the end of the day, people in the audience continue to point to the fact that what is getting him there is his exercise in his mindset, that is dishonest because you're here. It's not there'll be.

That's one of the fact that 100% dishonest. It's not. Bren, hold on, I'm with you. He fucked up not in the steroids, but to say that he wouldn't be in the same shape with that workout, that diet. I didn't say that. No, but you said he's lying to say that that lifestyle. Saying when you say, when you say,

he's not saying that's the only thing I got him there. Listen, listen, there is, there is, he's making a lot of money selling his formula. That is the nine ancestral tenants and all those supplements. Good message, good supplement. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know about supplements. I've used the supplements. I'm telling you, good supplements. all those supplements. Good message, good supplements. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know about supplements. I've used the supplements.

I'm telling you, good supplements. I know supplements. Good supplements. Okay. You can keep defending him. What I'm trying to tell you is this. I'm defending his program, not him doing steroids. But you still have to look at the fact that he is saying

and suggesting that what got him there and what can get you there, what can get you there. And that is what he's saying. But get weird, though, be. But get weird. To be looking essentially like this. He's never said you're going to look exactly like me. Exactly what's implied.

Oh, man, disagree. And so he's saying essentially, if you look at that, then you can get your testosterone from 700 to 1400 using the nine ancestral test. Yeah, if I was him, I would use the numbers. Yeah, that's where he fucked up. I wouldn't use numbers. Yeah, but you could say it raises your testosterone, which is true.

Which is true. If you do dead left, you can raise your testosterone. Now, that much probably not. At the end of the day, for me, it comes down to this. I never was gonna buy something. I found him a very entertaining guy. At the end of the day, for me, it comes down to this. I never was gonna buy something. I found him a very entertaining guy, and I was very aware that he was clearly taking a shitload of stuff.

You and I were nip-sips. You've been alive, you know that. Correct. And he's playing a character. He's walking around naked, wearing a belt. And yes, and not showering and living it and he's and he was a cartoon character fun guest and it was a great way to market his business which he did and continues to do if you bought all those supplements and bought them the nine ancestral tenants I'm sure

you'll be healthier than otherwise. Get a tea, we'll be in shape. Get a tea, let's work out. Let's a game team. You live the liver king lifestyle, it's fine. Yeah, you can feel good. If you think you're gonna get that way without other stuff, then you're just simply naive.

And I think that's where... And you deserve it. Well, yeah. And you're a dumbass. But having said all that, if you're gonna live that, if you're gonna play a game as the liver king, it's Brian Johnson. Just know that the house of cars gonna come down.

Maybe you're gonna get all the shit. Let me ask you a question. I'm not trying to be the argument of a newbie-faz here. If you were starting to, let's say, and let's say you are, don't be like, I never started something coming. Let's say you got into supplement. Flip, pop, come, keep going.

Yeah, and you wanted, and you wanted to, like be the liver king. Yeah. Would you have came, like, how should you have dealt with it? Should you have came out and said, hey guys, I'm on this, this, and this, but I live this way, which also helps. Yeah, it's a top place to be.

What would you do? And then my other question for you is, name one single example in the fitness space that launches supplement company that told us exactly what cycle they're taking from day one. I think what you are sympathetic. And I don't like when people pile on. I think you made a mistake.

Can you take accountability for it? It does not take away from his overall message and he's actually a good person. The overall message I'm on board with, I can ride with. Of course, he's on steroids, you fucking idiots. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, it's on steroids, you fucking idiots. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it continues to be a complicated subject because I think anyone, anyone selling

a makeup line, Kardashians, anyone selling any kind of longevity, beauty, almost anyone. With the exception of like, exception of like Lane Norton, who's a scientist and any Galvan certain guys, but they're not living on yachts. But the people that have done very well made a lot of money, almost all are in one way or another doing things. There's a catch.

Why are there steroids? There's certainly, how do you feel about plastic surgery? How do you feel about bun and plants? How do you feel about Botox? How do you feel about bun and plants? How do you feel about Botox? How do you feel about all these things? When you look at the Kardashians and a girl whose 11 says I want to look like that, something like that. That's where it gets dicey.

I'm gonna buy Kylie's makeup. That's where it gets dicey. Well, Kylie's makeup line ain't gonna make you look like Kylie. No. A very expensive plastic surgery. She went through a lot of pain, yeah. Yeah, I used to, and I used to defend. So we had the whole group of people.

I know, I used to defend the Kardashians, right, with that stuff. I'm like, oh, the Gorgeous, they look better. And then I forget who it was. It might have been, the Stefano. The Stefano, Chrissy D was like, yeah, but would you feel the same way if you had a daughter

who was 13 was like, dad? I got a fucking phone call. I'm buying Kylie Jenner's makeup because apparently she can make me look like her. You would go, no, no, you don't want that to be a North Star. But also if my son, Tiger, who's really into fitness or they went, hey, dad, I'm gonna start

the liver king's protocol and live this lifestyle to say, all cool, butting, instantly bun and bamboo and eat liver and stuff like that. I'll support all that. But you know, I would tell him straight up, you know, he's on like artificial's PDs straight up, you know, he's on like, artificial's PDs, dude. You know, he's on stuff. The Muslim fit and his empire,

Muslim fit and his magazine, it's built off this. I mean, it was all, it was all nutrition and exercise and all of it was great. But the models, the people we were trying to get to, unattainable. We're unattainable without a pharmacy of drugs, which I didn't know back then.

Dude, I didn't know, Tom, I was like 24. I got a flat top when I was 12, and had my mom buy me a whole milk, because I thought I'd look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. My mom's like, that's how you do it. I'm like, I just left and drink milk and have a flat top, and I start talking like him.

She's like, yeah, I better get you there. Yeah, dumb ass. Even you said, when you tried to put on real weight, and you're a huge guy who puts on muscle easily You said it took you like a year and a half. Oh my god. Yeah, it's hard work man if you do it the right if you do it now and I think maybe that's why I have a soft spot for the liver king because I've been Jim since I was I don't fourth grade and I know how hard that dudes work even with or without steroids to get that and that Discipline it takes it's tough. Well, somebody built a thing, guys, like fucking tough.

Guys think, well, I could, well, it was like an equis. What was that documentary? He took all this, everything. With a Russian scientist, he was a biker, and still couldn't come close. So a lot of it is, you know, how good of an athlete are you? You're not gonna. And most people you walk on the street past,

you have no idea they're on steroids, because I've met so many guys, who are like, really tell me what they're on. And I'm met so many guys, we were like, tell me what they're on. And I'm like, oh, it's just, you must have been so much skinny or you're not using it right before. Oh, I go to my job. You're on to, I know what, not today.

Yeah, I look terrible. Sometimes they look fantastic. Sometimes you're like, you look so cool. Hey, but, this is my, again, I'm not defend. I'm saying this to the society we live in, name something that you see that's not artificial. So if you see a grown Instagram, right, they doctor the pictures, the filters these days for women, for men, all the stuff.

All of this. It's all smoking. You're bringing up a great point because I think there's something wrong with our culture maybe, right? Or here, let me play devil's advocate. One, it's probably something wrong with our culture. Two, cultures have never been different. Cultures have never been different. Let me play devil's advocate. One, it's probably something along with our culture. And we should fight back. Cultures have never been different.

Cultures have never been different. We've always tried to be more beautiful. Women and work courses to make their ways tiny and they would faint. You've got lots of general cultures. Find their feet, primitive cultures, or not passions, they primitive cultures. Why do you think many cultures would do?

It's scarification rituals. Sure. All of those things were meant to, human beings have gone into all kinds of Decoration and enhancement and body enhancement. We've also altered our states and now with technology gene editing We are in the new frontier where you're gonna be able to look like pretty much anything you want. Yeah, and so This might just be the movement toward a form of transhumanism. People want to live forever. This is an expression of people wanting to be bigger, stronger, faster, and ultimately live longer and healthier,

not being the hospital. That's it. And you're never going to change it, and we're going to get closer to it with technology. I agree, and then the standard of beauty is really, I think the bars can get lower, because if everybody can attain it from, you know, paying a doctor, and we cannot, or taking a pill at whatever we get to, then the level of beauty, it's like, well, there's tens everywhere. Here's my thought. But let me, I see you're going to agree with this. Let me button this up.

But let me have you before you button up, I just want you to. So we're talking about society. It's like, even when we're talking about Tesla's and electric cars and stuff like that, you say, you know, that's going to be the thing and gas powers when we gone. But even in the message of that, and this, you know, that's gonna be the thing and gas powered when we gone. But even in the message of that, and this isn't political, these are facts. Even the message of Teslas and electric cars, and we think it's the right thing to do,

but underneath all of it, it's actually not. It's smoking mirrors. Because if you look into it in the lithium batteries and how fast the car's going, how much they weigh, and how death goes gonna me up on the roads. It's actually not, but it's free, right? No, everything is smoking mirrors. It's everything, like when you look,

when you get down to the nitty gritty of really most things that's are making so much money, whatever business you're into, shoes you're into, you know the Nike's I'm into? They cost in slave labor, they cost $4 to make. It's everything great in there. It's the great contradiction of being a human being.

You try to be good and you're probably being bad and it's impossible not to miss, right? And so you're bringing up such a great point. I think at the end of the day though, the lesson here for Brian Johnson, liver came for anybody else. Live your trip. Live your trip. For a huge movie star who might be pretending to be straight and is actually gay, whatever it might be. You're gonna get found out.

The problem with lying, regardless of where it is in your life, just know you're not gonna get away with it ultimately. You can't. You just can't. Now, I would push back on the gay thing. If that move starts gay, because- I have a lot of sympathy. Well, to me, it's like, especially if, let's say,

and I'm not saying any of these people are, but let's say there's some male action start that we know of the super famous, I won't say his name, but you and I know the truth. He's super famous. Yeah. If he comes out, he'll get a lot of support from Hollywood, whatever he sees. Nobody's gonna buy his movies. It's so on in America. They're in the in overall

It's just people it's hard for the majority of America relate to it So it it it affects his bottom dollars So much so that's a different it's all different what I'm saying is that Steroids like I don't need rock to tell me I don't need rock to go. Yeah I was playing hercules. I was taking whatever ten C. C's that that I don't need all that dude just we don't need rock to tell me. I don't need rock to go, yeah, I was playing Hercules, I was taking whatever, Tennessee, C's, the deck, I don't need all that, dude. Just, we don't need that. Yeah, just do your thing.

Because he's playing a character, do your thing. Yes, yes. And I have for LeBron, for LeBron, if you want it, and I'm saying it is, but if you're Tom Brady, if it means I get to watch you play for 10 more years and you're taking HG8s and you're Tom Brady, if it means I get a watch you play for 10 more years and you're taking HG8s and you know, you're not physically harming people and you're, it gets 10 years of joy out of my life and you're taking HG8s and protect your knees. Do it, buddy.

Fuckin' do it, buddy. I get 10 more years to experience your greatness. I agree. I don't care. I totally agree. I don't care. Um, yeah, I just think at the end of the day, it's a fucking really, it's kind of new for us, but it's not, and it's a really tough thing.

And when you're in the limelight and you've made, you've built your fortune off of a certain look, and a certain persona that requires all the work and little help on the side. And letting people know that help on the side is going to tear it all down, it becomes very difficult. Yeah, he's in tough spot. But nowadays, all of us know, most of us, with all the guy like Derek from plates, more weights, whatever.

What is it? Plates more dates. Plates more dates. More plates more dates. More plates more dates. We just view and I bug down. I'm like plates on plates with days. Why did he go bad on?

It's that's a great question. I'm with be honest and I love Derek. You know, I love you in the place where dates. Again, maybe it's because I get so much shit all the time. But when I saw that, I went, what are you doing, Derek? What are you doing, man? You, Derek's a very smart smart. And when it comes to like breaking down steroids

and that or not, he is the best human being on earth to do that. As far as entertainment and known-ish, he's so good. I love this, man. He's phenomenal at his job. The best there is, Rogan Hadam. Have you met him? So good.

Yeah, we've gone back and forth. Texts and DMs. So if I ever want to go on steroids. Not for you, we'll get to you. Is it a guy? No, no, just go up the road. But so it doesn't matter, right? So when I saw Derek do that, the part of me,

because we live, again, this is another problem in society that we're talking about with smoke and mirrors, but the mentality to be the first one, tear somebody down, it breaks my heart. And like, you could have called them, show them, maybe like, hey dude, how do you, before I drop this, like what do you wanna do?

Or like, you know, like, or if you want, I'll have you on, we can talk about this. I think there's a better way to do it because we're so quick to society in general because they haven't risked what other people have risked to get to a certain point whatever it is They want to tear them down, man, because that makes them feel better. I don't know how I feel about it

I don't know how I feel about it But now to play devil's advocate with Derek on plates more dates Is it his job because he does a now you're not his job so is he kind of his job? Kind of but if you get an email look I'd say this is it, but also because they didn't come from a actual doctor Came from his bodybuilding coach. Yeah, isn't there a hippo law here? Is somebody getting sued here? I don't know because it isn't it if it's I don't blame Derek because Derek that's his show That's his job that you if you're if you're anybody who's doing if you're in a situation like Brian Johnson or liver king Yeah, don't come Brian. I know, I'm sorry. If you're in the city, if you're like a guy,

also on PDs. Yes. If you're a guy like liver king, you have to know that the reality of the internet is that it's a truth seeker. It's a truth seeker. No, it's a, no, I wouldn't call it truth seeker.

I would say it's a career destroyer. Well, but if you're not, they're not the truth, right? Bubbid, so what I'm saying is that, eat with a honby, even if you are, they're gonna come for you. Well, they're always gonna come for you. Yeah, that's what I tell them.

I mean, they're not where you can see it. Everybody's gonna come for you. They're coming. What do you mean I go? You're getting too famous. Yeah, they're coming. They're coming. But, but,

You're sorry, I'm trying to say is that that kind of situation with, with, there are very smart people like Derek, who can break this down and are going to say, this is impossible for you to look this way otherwise. Okay, but then he did get all this information. So he can back it up. It's very hard for him.

He's not, he doesn't own anybody, I think. He just owes his audience the truth. Let me ask you, but he said he did a place more dates. He did a, that year, now in Rogan, like a ton of people. He talked about my, how I'd limp dick when I was on TRT, my weener wouldn't work. Just stop working. Really?

And he was like, you're probably taking too much. We went back and forth. That's how I mean him, Matt. What were you taking? Testosterone. Cause I get my levels checked. So, you're doing anabar or anything like that? Yeah, I'm all set on your expertise on this.

But no, I'm just, no, I talked to, yeah. I asked you to. Yeah, no. But what caused the dick thing? Was it too much testosterone? Yeah, that's what you're saying. Like maybe they recommend too much of a high dose. Because sometimes I take too much, it will cause that

and some people and it causes your spring production to go to zero. Right. Zero, which has been an issue for me, right? So I'll talk to the plates more dates Me and him have gone back to the map. Are you taking test from now? No, okay Yeah, but you never were you did it for a little bit You will just because I was it was so so low and they said they think because of combat sports and since I've been working out and

Like doing so much stuff since I was in fourth grade yeah to go dead that all like way to go to a full-blown fourth grade. What are you doing? But where to go? I loved it, but in fourth grade, you know, to go dead. That all, like way to go dead. Tech, football and fourth grade, what are you doing? But way to go, I loved it. But in fourth grade, getting in the head, you know, to doing all the stuff. Fuck the deal for two Atari land. Well, they said just the constant, like the adrenaline, the testosterone, like you just stop working so much, my dreamals are fucked up.

So I got on it, you know, I felt good for a little bit, but then once my weeners stop working, I'd rather look like fucking Brennan Frazier, a new movie than have not had my weeners work. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Yes. 100%.

Okay, I didn't know that. Okay, so let me actually, let me ask you this, if you're Derek that plays more dates, and I know you'd be. Yeah. You wouldn't do it. No. You wouldn't do it. I know things about certain people that would absolutely ruin their career.

Destroy them. Yeah, we all do. I would never, that's not my job. That's not what I do. It's just not the way the world should work. Now, I guess again, such a fan of Derek, well, I woke up this morning, I was like, man, I wonder what the fuck,

why would you do that to this poor guy? Granted, he did lie stuff like that. But then I went, it is kind of his job, right? If he does that or not, and he has the bread news. I have no problem with that or doing it in a way because it's his job. I don't either because that is what he does.

Yeah. I mean, you gotta know that's kind of a good idea. It's like being mad. It's like being mad that Don Lemon and Lido about COVID. It's his job, right? What?

I can't. Sir. Right? I can't. No, right? I can't. I can't. No, don't get me. Don't bring me in here. Don't go on, don't limit. I don't know.

I don't like your metaphorical person, I don't know. Hold on. Why, why do you, I want to un-suppressed on him for a while. Why do you think this all happened? Like, why did his coach go bad on him? His coach is the one who the one. Oh, that's the there's the fucking root of the problem. Hey coach. Yeah. Well, I'm not working with him ever again. All his employees are going, hey, whoa, whoa, be cool, man. Why would you

do this? That's spilling the beans. Yeah. Well, I assume that he's the notoriety and money and blatant disregard for the truth probably irks a lot of people on planet earth in the fitness space in the world. Absolutely, because we're in a time now where actually it is a lot more acceptable and you mentioned somebody like who's honest about their steroids and also sell supplements. Greg do set is an example of that recently because he's made videos talking about every single thing he's taken and also has started a supplement line. That's a more recent phenomenon, I think, that you're like afforded the ability to, but we do live

in a space now where you do that. Hey, Mark, but with that Mark Dussett, how's this supplement line going? Is he? I think pretty good, just because he's very like it's his brand. So the issue is when you're representing somebody else's brand, I'd assume, like they don't watch it or do it, or you know, with this guy, it might just be more complicated. I assume his marketing team was like, don't do that. Because yes, it does undercut potentially. He decided on the lie, double down,

but that when people look at you and you're brazing, because it wouldn't happen just to some bodybuilder, nobody knows, like the guy wouldn't send Barrick, you know, hey, expose this fucking guy, my local gym, who says he's not on test. It would be cool if he goes, he gives a shit. Like, hey, Gary, I think the liver king brought a lot of the song himself by being that, that opinionated,

that aggressive with his health message, that aggressive with his health message, that aggressive with his lifestyle message, and that rich off of that message. And I think when you are not consistent, when you are not living the way you are saying you are living. They're going to come for you. Yes. When you're giving all the credit verbally, and without apology to your supplements, your natural tale to nose supplements

and your exercise and your primal tenets, and no credit to the other stuff. That's the brass handed to you. And it's like Game of Thrones steroids are coming. They come. Stereoids come. The truth is coming. Yeah, they come.

So he was very, very aggressive about it. And insulting to other people Who lived a different way and when you do that place to play stupid games went stupid prize He's an insult. Oh, he was oh, he was I watched that a lot. I watched him be very very aggressive in other words You tell me why plants are good for you, you know and stuff like that He just make fun of you and he was he was roasting people hard, so you're gonna get roasted Yeah, right yeah, there was already when hard. So you're gonna get roasted, right? There was already, when we had him on the,

a number of people, you know, he was already a controversial guy because people were like, you know. And you know, I think you're a character. To be honest, you and Jim won him on in Mark, I didn't, like, I'm no Paul. No, no, no, no. I mean, he's, I'm so, I'm so glad he came on. I said he can come back.

Yeah, I'd love to talk to him. I'm not sure, but yeah. Yeah, but no, when he came on, I wasn't that familiar. Like, I saw some clips right on, I was like, all right, he's just eating liver, he's jacked, still doing preaching about health. All right, I guess we'll have him on. Is he, you know, is he gonna be funny, smart,

he's gonna be good to, the conversation. And so I went and he like, this is gonna be stupid. I love the guy, I was like, oh, he's actually a good dude. Like off air love the guy, I was like, oh, he's actually a good dude. Like off air, no cameras. I was like, oh, he's actually a sweet person. And also, I have a sweet spot for him. Amazing father, dude. I'm on board with all that.

Yes. So the steroids I assume, I assume. Yeah, no shit. No, no, no. They tell you, very bonds took them. Yeah, I mean, I think that he just needs to come clean and- Yeah, you stay going to ship. Yeah, take ownership, that's all.

You know what he should do? He should come out on a Jocco's podcast, complete ownership. And Jocco just sticks him with facts. You got it, you can't, like when I was talking, you couldn't come on here, actually, I recommend he goes on a shoulder's show and I connected him in the shorts. Here wouldn't work, because you and I like him so much,

and I literally don't give a fuck. I'm not the guy to do it. Now ratings have been good, you know, ratings, what about the rating? That's hopefully people watch, but it's not what I do. Schultz will hold him to the... Hold him to the...

But also kill it with humor, and then he'll let him talk, and they'll do the thing, there's a bunch of guys. You and I would be like, you did stories, who gives a fuck, hey dude, so how's the testicles going for you? You're right though, and you say the entire space is so full of snake oil,

and the entire space of self-help and wellness, and all that, is just so full of broscience, and so full of promises. And I just have never, I've just, mean potatoes, baby. Yeah. Mean potatoes. That's what works.

Just worked out with healthy, when do the steroids do it? Don't lie to your followers. It was steroids work. Do them right if you're gonna do them. They do them. Again, they only work if you do them and you live a strict, healthy lifestyle.

They, you can take all stories, you want to be, keep living the way you're doing and you know, you have a bare gut. It's a lot. It's just going to get more bloated. It's a lot. It might get a little more strength and you're going to have some weird marks on your ass. That's all that happens. Yeah.

Might get some acne on your back. It's going to be good. Yeah. Still a warlock, baby. It's still a warlock. I'm going to do some fucking, I'm going to get into parallel. Now, do you want to? Is it your turn on up to you? Stover uses okay? I see there's the thing what you're like I'm on math

I do a lot I would believe if I would believe you on math more so than stiffer I'm on I'm on a lot of Jesus in case you guys wonder why I'm so clear I had full hearted a lot of you did call me a stain hit me with a pretty religious line But you were in that so heated about it. I was gonna make funny. I was like I did say that. I was gonna look up to the sky and you need to. I said, I said, I said, I'm hands in need. Look at the sky sometimes. Once in a while, look at the sky and pray to your Lord and save you. And thank your creator, first of all, for all the things that are good in your life. And you've never talked like this. Ask him, ask him for strength and truth and for goodness. You're best, let the angels of your best nature.

That's what he said. Angels beautifully spoke to me. Take my dinner in a wrap. Sinner, saint, what I say, we're bipolar, sinner, saints, everything in between. Let always be moving toward the saint. And you will. You want to church one time.

You want to church one time and you start preaching God for a long time I've been a secret for a long fuck you hey hey snake oil guy you want to trash my boy I've been a living in judge like more days and you're saying I'm a secret of Jesus Christ allow me to forgive bread right now he knows knows not what he says. And I give love. I give love. Hold on. Hold on.

Hey, does the seeking, the Lord and Savior include washing your asshole in a public bathroom? I'm ashamed of you as a man of Jesus Christ. You gotta keep man of Jesus Christ. I want my whistle clean. Not in a public bathroom where we wash our hands. I never put my ass in a public bathroom. I have it on film.

Really? Yes. My ex-wife has me on the shitter. A lot of pictures of me on the shitter, just like this, like that, because she'd catch me. And every once in a while, if I'm just being, I'm talking or whatever, I'm being cocky, on the plane,

I'll just get a picture of me and me on the shitter. And then she'll zoom in on just this part. It's so disgusting. Yes, some wrinkles. I'm just like get me the fuck out of here right now. Please erase that. Let's button this up. Chinner. You mad at liver king. No. Why? I don't know. You seem like you mad at all. No. But real quick did you guys sure that his the body being coached is what leak did or something. I like some other. Yeah. Yeah. They said that right. I didn't see it anyone. Yeah, Derek talked about it, and again, it was this information is given to him

by the bodybuilding coach with a lot of redacted information. It's redacted, so he gave him only a little bit. Like there was just certain things in there where it's like, he's going over the documents and he's like, oh, this personal information is redacted. So like the guy took a length to conceal some information, excuse me, didn't want that to go public, and perhaps conceal this identity too.

Yeah, that's a real breach of trust, isn't it? That's something must have happened. It's a breach of trust, but I don't assume that it's the same thing as a doctor, patient, confident, confident. Yeah, right, right, so he's getting it from. But. Mono of the story

get your get all your stopments from a doctor. Well, under the hippo. Well, the story don't trust your meat had gym coach. Yeah. Because down the road he might throw you under the bus. My only issue was it was a private email. That's my own issue. It's a private email. He should have just I never tell you I saw I was at Gold's gym in Venice probably 15 years ago and I was so fucking wow this beautiful Woman she was probably 35 maybe maybe a little older and she was a fitness girl and she came walking out and a giant man Walked up to her and said something like Jennifer and she goes. Yeah, and he goes, I've been looking for you, how are you? And she goes, I'm good, who are you?

And he goes, well, and he opens up a badge. And he says, I'm from the DA, and I got some questions. I think you know why I'm here. And she just went, she just stopped and she went, oh, okay. And he goes, yeah, do you want to come over here? Do you want to talk here? And I remember just going, fuck, man. And he goes, yeah, do you want to come over here? Do you want to talk here?

And I remember just going, fuck, man. What do you think she was doing prostitution? She was probably selling steroids. In the gym? Yes. You know, she was running a whole thing. Something was going on with steroids. Because he mentioned that.

Wow, what a hit. And I didn't stay. I felt like I couldn't wait. I was like, I gotta get out of here. Oh, I would've done my phone though. No, it was before all that. He was right. He was so clearly a professional law enforcement.

He was a law enforcement guy who had been on her tail and founder. You're fucked. You're fucked. You're gonna win for that. It's like our friend who did, you know, who did six years in federal pen for drug trafficking. And he said, when they show up in their black SUVs,

it's three guys. That'd be just a chat. Four black, when four black SUV they show up in their black SUVs, it's three guys, four guys. They're just a chat. Four black, when four black SUVs show up, that's the feds, and they got you. And you better start talking. And here's the thing. And they've been doing the research for a few months now. They've watched you for a year.

Yeah, when they finally come get ya. They got a case. You're going the can. They got a case. My buddy, my buddy was on an international, he does this internationally, and he was, they got this huge drug deal, this Jamaican drug dealer,

and the guy was running like some crazy operation, you know. And they'd been watching him for a year, and he said, yeah, I was just on a stakeout. This guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and he goes, so we're going to close in tomorrow or something. And I said, why would he be doing all this stuff out in the open? And he goes, well, because when you've been doing it long enough, you start to think you're smarter than we are.

And you start to think you can get away with it. And then you start taking chances, and that's when we get you. But we have all the resources. You come from it. We got all the resources. That's my whole thing with we had buddies who dabble in that stuff, and I was like,

oh, you think you're smarter than the Fed? That's hilarious. You know, I have like Harvard graduates and there are only goals to focus on your shit. This Idaho stabbing is interesting though, because they can't find this motherfucker. Mm-hmm. And this guy came into our house with a knifey

and stabbed four kids. Called students. And two girls, two guys, right? Yeah, and whoever he is, they don't have, the FBI can't find him. Well, but they're not releasing all the information, they have some suspects, but they want to leak it because the thing he's going to run,

and the other problem they're having is the kids went on winter break, so they're not in the school, so it's kind of a dead town, it's a college town. So all they don't know, because everyone's gone. So they have no people to talk to, there's no witnesses, but what all the, they don't know because everyone's gone. So they have no people to talk to. There's no witnesses. But what they did, they had a forensic guy who was in the house and he's like, this person is not professional.

It's so sloppy. Like, it's so much blood and the way he went in. And then also, like, there was a dog upstairs and like, if it was a serial killer or someone that's done this before, they want to, they went and went in during this time and with the known others dog, known there's two people upstairs that he can't get to in time. Like this was, it's very sloppy in the amount of blood and they're going to catch them. But they do think it might be connected with this other murder.

I forget was that of a two couple just randomly murdered same way. That was in somewhere on the west coast. They made a lot of fun. Some like that. couple just randomly murdered the same way. So that was somewhere on the West Coast. Like maybe some fucking evil man. I mean seriously, like the guy that cop who catfished that teenage girl killed her grandparents and mother and then took her in a car, they caught him and he died and shoot out. Jesus Christ.

You know, it's like how were you this fucking evil? Horrible, horrible. What else you got, June? You guys wanna listen to Toyota Untold? Yeah. The funniest podcast read of all time. We couldn't get through it. It's a baby.

Yeah, ever just sit around when you're scrolling through some of your podcasts and you're like, you know what, man? Toyota just isn't a car company. They're not. I say that all the time, I go, what else they are though, you know? You know what they are?

They're a new podcast called Toyota on tolls I Fuck you Fuck you fuck you fuck you We're spot just more fun. Hey, I'm not Fuck you guys why this is the toilet Oh my are we gonna get sued for this? No. I can't. Hey Brian, we have to get through. That's so funny.

Let's do this. Hey, who gives a fuck if we fuck it up? You ready? Hey B. What's up? I'm fucking. You ready? Yeah. I We finally Damn, bro. You know what man? What's so funny?

You know what? Why lie? Oh my god. You're a terrible bucket. You can't do this. No, no, I'm on the TV. I'll get serious. Let me try to read up a prose.

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What are you doing? Terry Oda's actually the longest running cars in the road or Terry Oda's. The best cars in the planet. Who decided to do a podcast. Who would that company who was not fired? Who was not fired? Who's like, let's do a,

who do stories about your Toyota. Which I can understand maybe, no, that's not the way that is the main character. When I was in my Toyota, you were on the road and see Camry think, man, how they create that. We may have done that and gotten paid. Now I want to apologize to our listeners.

But one time we lost. I want to thank Jamry. Oh fuck, that's a good thing. Camry didn't mean that. So good. God damn, that's funny. That still made me cry. Oh fuck.

It was a hot saying. Holy fuck. You watch any of the World Cup? Oh yeah. Yeah. You watch your run? You watch your run lose to the US? Yep.

I'm kind of rooting the US annoyance because it's not, they're not Americans, they're all like, they are like, he's on our best place. He's a Mexican. He's a serenade guy. He had, but he was born in the US. So yeah, come on, your name is speaking like. No, our best player, Polsik is, he's a,

he's born here, but I think his parents have Croatian descent, but he's the best player. Look at this, Tearron. Yeah, soccer team refuses to have that. To pay for that. To pay for that, you see what happened? They throw in the family. They throw in the first family. Yeah, they're like, oh cool, you he's the best player. Look at this, T-Aron. The soccer team refuses to pay for that. They paid for that. You see what happened? They threw in the first family.

They threw in the first family. They're like, oh cool, you don't want to sing? See what happened. You see what? The Muffaker was seeing like fucking Mariah Carey on the last game, playing. Heee, they hit those high notes. Yeah.

I would too. You know, throw out my family else thing. There's what's going on around right now. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. And they're killing a lot of people. It's just, it's not my family else thing. There's what's going on around right now. It's crazy man. It's crazy And they're killing a lot of people that it's just it's bad She was arrested for not wearing the statement at her job. Yeah, that's that was the she was spark She's murdered yeah

Yeah That the Iranian people are going through some shit man. know people people think i hope they have problems in america try going to china right now try going to fucking yeah and iran is young people who are just so tired this shit they're so tired because you know obviously those head coach of the us acting with nothing to do with it but somebody on the us architect we know american runs it because they want to stand with you know these protesters they took off the Islamic logo on the flag of Iran.

Iran took the logo off and posted it, like whatever, like, you know, for a reason they posted the flag. Yeah. They took the logo off. Iran did not take kindly that. They were furious. So that we had to take it down apologize, re-put it back up. So they're entering the coach after we tied,

the US tight England zero to zero, which, you know, it's crazy we celebrate that, but yeah, they did tie them. And they asked the coach, he had you have anything to say, I'll take an Islamic logo, you know, symbol off the Iranian flag. And he's like, I don't run the tweet,

I'm an I'm an aware of it, but what happened, he goes, I'm a soccer coach. And then they're like, well, what about the US submarine that's near the Iran board? Like all this shit and he's like, I'm not up on my politics man. Again, I'm a US men's soccer coach. They're like, no more questions.

Like, holy shit, it's crazy. I mean, yeah, it is. I was gonna go to this model real quick, but maybe we'll save it for later. Actually, let's just do it now. So this woman, she's a model. Nothing crazy about this. Crazy about this. Nothing crazy about this other than you, that dress code, is there a guitar.

Croatian, Serbian, they're also beautiful. She's insane. Yeah, that's like, wow. So yeah, apparently she was fine though. was able she was able to be you know get out of there even the guitar is where like I mean you know look at her she's

fucking gorgeous yeah but her Instagram even the Iranians like okay we get that you know what you put a bowtie on top right it's just all creations yet, I mean, you know, what you're doing here. Did you put a bowtie on top? It's just all creation shit. Reaving. Find those outfits. I mean, you know, they'll make up,

you make them, you make them for her. There you go. Yeah, she's cool. So this is a Disney animated movie that I was supposed to do. I guess, better than it did, but it's, so it's, there's an LB, there's a gay character. There's a boy and there's a question on another boy.

Yeah, so there's a gay character in there. And we know you guys there's a question, another boy. Yeah, so there's a gay character in there. And we know you guys talked about it before, a lot of times you think these big companies are pushing diversity because they'll get more. Well, I think this company was like, Disney was like, the real world does have gay kids in it, right? And it's not far-fetched to think that one of the kids could be gay, right?

Because there are a lot of kids who are watching this who might be gay. I don't know, 10% or 3% whatever they are. And so, you know, yeah, but let's say three, four, five, but either way, yeah, there are gay kids. And so that's a reality. So if you were to go to a school, you'd find a certain percentage of those children

that are gay, or at least confused about their sexuality and that's not hard to believe, right? That there would be that still more. But Americans, the world's just not ready for it yet. It's amazing. Well, no, that's how I did see fire their seal. Like this woke agenda they've had, they're eating all the days.

So start buzz like you're right. Start buzz like you're, now start with this. And then that movie was at bros that they're trying to bibbick Bridesmaid so you're they're over three There's nothing wrong with the majority of Americans going. I'm just not into it because the majority is not gay So we're gone. I'm not into it. Same reason. It's okay for a bit ago. I'm not into in the movie crush, but what was it the Asian movie? The crushed Crazy rich agent crazy rich agent cool I'm not into movie crush, but what was it, the Asian movie? The Crushed. Crazy Rich A.

Crazy Rich A. Cool, I didn't see it. I would bring my kid to Strange World because my son at 11 knows about gay stuff and he'd have his own take on it. So I make a, do you do? Before you guys go too far into this, this is basically, so the movie flopped

it should've done way better than it did. And then, so the LGBTQ community feels there's a conspiracy that maybe Disney made this movie this way. So it would flop so that they won't have to make any more movies with you know gay people and it's a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy. It's a LGBT. Here's the thing.

Because if this movie did phenomenal, then they would make more. So the glass for you is half empty, because it just happened to bomb, which every single movie that they've experienced and tried to stuff out with, same without other movie bros. What about Fairy Godmother? When the Fairy Godmother was a dude.

What was that, remember that? I don't know. That was on ABC. Was that a black guy? Yeah, it was a fairy, yeah. That was ABC. Yeah, I think so. But it's just, it's making good movies.

I think otherwise, because so this also, you guys both know Patrick, but David, you guys have both been on this show. Love him, yeah, love him. He said he took his kids to go watch it within 10 minutes, his 10 year old son said, you just don't want to watch this, so they left. So it just wasn't that good of a movie.

Yeah, so apparently the movie itself wasn't that good. So how much did that do with an openly gay character? Get fighting Nemo and had a gay character, it probably would have crossed anyway, right? I don't know. Yeah, but it's great. Yeah, it did, Ellen, the fish was gay. Yeah.

Yeah. Can I see what that, can I see the number? You tell me, you tell me, Tomator from Cars ate something, right? You should write. I like Patrick, that David. We gotta cut this out though, obviously. Okay, we just see this.

Well, there's no mention of them being guys, so. I don't know. Sit the boy here. That's what Brennan said. I'm not even sure how those are going. I was a boy. I mean, but anyways, it's a little much. I wouldn't take my son, it's a little much, you know.

Yeah. To explain it right now. Yeah, it's just, it's confusing for me. It's just way a little while. Yeah, I'm good. Here's a quiz. Disney's learned the little while. Yeah, I'm good. Here's a quick, there's these learn the hard way. Yeah.

They're take your prices and saying too, work on that. Incredibly insane. For two people, it's not. Yeah. A quick combat sports one that's happening right now. So, Patty Pimbleit was accusing Jake Paul's fight of being fixed, which is already kind of crazy, right? With Anderson Silva.

So then, Jake Paul challenged Patty Pimbleit jake paul's fight of being fixed which is already kind of crazy right with entrance to silver so then jake paul challenged patty pimpin that to one mil one million dollar boxing match but he would fly patty to portarico where is that for sparring sparring yeah you can do a phishing because you have to of course we this even it's crazy as is we bet him that

and then uh... is for a million bucks i just played the video for you quick uh... is for no one but i just played a bit for you quick uh... or had a bit mad how it really wanted to like you to go for you but then you come up with a my father and sanderson silver was rigged sick and tired of the narrative that it's stupid your disrespecting the own go of your own sport

you're saying that anderson silver is a criminal you're saying he's a fraud. You're saying that Viacom, one of the biggest media companies in the world, is doing criminal stuff. That's what you're saying. It's stupid. It's- We driving in, filmin' this? I haven't propositioned for you since you would have rigged a fight, right? All right. Let's bar. Fly to Puerto Rico. I'll get your private jet. We can do five, three minute minute rounds boxing. If you win I'll give you a million dollars, which is what you deserve to get paid, Patty. You know it. But the UFC is not paying you that you deserve to get paid more.

But if I win you have to join the United Fighters Association and help me sign up all of the fighters in the UK. Okay, we can't do that. that as far since you wouldn't work. I don't know you out. I like Jake Paul. I love him. Yeah, I'm just so impressed. And boxing wise out. Me tough, Pat.

Pat, he calls tough for anybody right now who's not a boxer or who does other mixed. Yeah, real quick. Patti did respond. He said he accepts the fight, but since he's fighting next week anyways, he has to wait, you know, a week after and then he says he can't go to Puerto Rico. Obviously since he's fighting, but then he accepts the fight, but since he's fighting next week anyways, he has to wait a week after, and then he says he can't go to Puerto Rico obviously since he's fighting. But then he'll meet him at, so he's, you have CPI and spar there. That's still sparring?

Yeah, but I didn't get why after the fight, Paddy went fight on to Costa Rica. No, I think he wants to go right now. Oh, no, that's stupid. Yeah, no. He said he's going to fight, have one day rest, and then meet him at the PI. Or is Paddy a lot smaller? Stupid. Yeah, no, he's got a good he said he's gonna fight have one day rest and then meet him at the PI They same size or is patty a lot smaller Well, it's not luck. I think it's huge. Yeah, but he puts on weight. Yeah, but yes, it's not he's a big boy naturally Big boy. Yeah, big. Yeah, yeah, who's bigger for you? Been with both them

Jakes little bigger Jake's a little more naturally bigger. Yeah more muscle. Yeah, patty You know when he gets big you puts on a lot of fat there. But the thing that's downside for Paddy, like he should do it, make the million dollars. But with Jake, and he did the same thing with Dan, like you have to make fighter pay equal and do all that stuff, it's never gonna happen. Also, if Paddy would decide to do that,

and then he's forced contractory to be in this fighter's basic union, it's gonna fuck his UFC career. Yeah. Just then Dana's going to be like, right? Right. And here, give me, give me your, give me your golden shirt that we've given you. Give that back. Right.

And then you start promoting him. He won't be the combing event anymore or main event or, so no more main events in Liverpool. So the upside for patties, this is not very high. Right. It's fucking, he's like, I'm down in fight, but I'm not signing the fighter union thing that ain't happening. Cause then, you know, I'm so currently employed with UFC

and if I'm the face of that, that you want me to recruit other fighters, then I'm the enemy of Dana White. And then I just signed a new deal with him, so I have six sites with him, he's gonna screw me. Yeah. It wouldn't be very smart for Patty. Yeah.

Love seems smart though, but it ain't happening if those are the guys. I know he's not gonna happen, and these are just quick ones. This is a I Guess it's Chinese brother and sister Sparring each other. I've seen these they're still at it. I do believe it's it's a sped up a little bit But still I don't know about that these guys fucking Fresh Fresh Definitely sped up the look at the foot the feet the footwork

I don't know if they've been playing they've been fighting for a long time these kids. I don't know if it is It's got their going. I don't see a sped up at all. No, it's sped up for sure. When he went, jump like that. Yeah, he's going up. He's just, it doesn't work on the eyes. Now, they're talented no matter what and they're fast as no matter what. So that's what they had.

Head trauma, what are they doing? What's it, what's the thing I was like that too? What the fuck is they doing? This young guy, yeah. Yeah, I mean, kid. You had to get fucking the kids. You know, I don't. They didn't look like anyone was getting that hit

in the head though. Their defense was insane. No one's really here, but nothing's too crazy. They're both super talented. They don't kill us. What's this? I'm not sure when this podcast happened, this Mike Tyson talking about when he was younger,

he fought kids and their parents. That one, the far above, one of the kid though, yeah. In the ring, in the street. You fought a son and his daddy, you with the kid though. Yeah in the ring and the street you thought the son and his daddy He's the same thing. Yeah And what the both yeah How does that brought what was it you say sick sick what 1617? Oh the lemon If you're that dad you probably the laughing in stock and able it until they found out years

later, he became heavyweight champion. Yeah, I like to. Yeah, I like to. It's not the other time. And he was 13. He would beat up most. And we can end on this one. I don't know how this happens, but.

Is she slapping this? Mm-hmm. Oh, I learned to ease spaghetti in Kenya. What that mouth do, baby? Oh, that's impressive. She's whining. No one's wondering what she do with the weiner? Of course, everyone is.

I know it's past Halloween all over me. She's sweating. You dressed up as a noob. LAUGHTER Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I asked you. Oh, that is very stupid. I love that guy. Whoever that guy is, I love him.

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