The Fighter & The Kid - Ep. 856: Frankie Edgar

Episode Date: December 26, 2022

Frankie Edgar joins TFATK for the first time to talk his retirement, being a small lightweight champion in the UFC, his podcast Champ and The Tramp, his friendship with The Jersey Shore cast, conspiracies and much more! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Yes we did, cause we back at it again It's the fighter in the kid It's the fighter in the kid It's the fighter in the kid This is really the fighter in the kid Come on man Fresh off the boat or the plane The legend

The legend up in here Well it's very loud now Brian I will always be back on the Frank Eger Betr-Sweet ass you well Well, I mean, it's an impossible career, an impossible business you made to the top and one of the best ever do it. Thank you. And you're fresh off the plane from Jersey.

Fresh off the plane. That's not a short flight, my man. No, no, I appreciate you doing this. Yeah, no, I'm glad to come out here. Kick it where you got here. I saw a clip, though, before, is it yesterday? Maybe the clip came out yesterday. You're doing like

WWE wrestling. Yeah, I did it. Yeah, I did it. It was Saturday night. It was in my my hometown one of the times of a guy titties retirement match. Sting was there. Jerry King Waller was there. So I'm a slaughter. You're a wrestling fan. I mean, the one I was a kid. I mean, not as much now, you know, but definitely not as a kid. I'm in Toronto, talk. Yeah, yeah. Look out there. Chin. Oh my god.

There you go. Well, it was kind of wild because they told me like 20 minutes before this, we talked about what we were going to do. We didn't train it. We didn't drill. We just talked about it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to get it. Is it a little weird going from the real deal to that for you? I mean, yeah, this was just a joke. It's still physical.

Yeah, yeah, it was cool. Set it up. And that's Nova. He had his retirement fight. The big guy? Yeah, yeah. I think back in the day, he looked a little different, you know. This is great.

That's cool. Well, this does it does it feel? I mean, to be living such a life, right? And we're training that all that the extra, it's an extreme lifestyle. In a lot of ways, right? Well, do you, are you apprehensive now? You've retired. You've done everything you couldn't to sport. It's gotta be weird, man.

It is, yeah, yeah, no. I mean, I wish I could do this forever, honestly. I enjoy training. I like the whole pursuit of a goal, you know, having a, doing this as your kid, you know, you're an athlete an athlete forever and you take that you know always trying to improve and get better and and strive for something You take that away. It's like damn wrong. I do, but you know, I'll find something Did you because they and I like the U.S. He did this on your last fight It was like this is his retirement fight like we knew it was your last one

Yeah, I was in crazy about the opponent and I was given the U.S. He should't crazy about the opponent, and I was giving the OC shit about it, and then somebody through the team was like, hey, Frankie wanted this. That Chris Guterres? I didn't want nothing. Frankie wanted this fight. Really? No, that's what we heard right before.

I told Mark and Ali, I said, because they said, they're trying to pick a opponent. I said, I don't pick a opponent. I never in my career pick a opponent. I said, fucking, you guys tell me who I'm fighting. I was told I'm for like a dumb cruise. Like a cruise.

That's what I wanted. I don't know if I'm a cruise would have been perfect. I was kind of the trajectory of both of the cards. Yeah. Have you guys never fought? No. Like a legend fight. Oh, dude.

Cause like Chris Gutez, I'm like, I just don't, even if you beat him, I get last one that's great, regarding that to dope, but it was like, oh man. Yeah, yeah. I mean, hey way worked I honestly I was happy to get in the car. I got a car super late too That's right. I mean I knew I was fine. I knew I was gonna fight that that was the date I was looking for but I got in the car like six weeks out

You know, it's wifey like did you tell right this last camp like yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah last last one. I honestly I thought I was gonna be a guy that was never gonna say a retired, just gonna walk away, but I was like, you know, if I don't say it, I probably fucking never do it. So I'll kind of hold myself accountable. Do you have any regrets? How do you feel now?

I mean, you know, I wish it the way different, you know? It's like the last couple of my career didn't go to what I wanted to, but I mean, fuck, what are you gonna do? Yeah, go to the chair and stuff about it. Well, I mean, you did everything literally everything you could think of doing. I could make the argument too,

that you didn't get the bell, but you, that was some of those decisions were controversial. You got the bell? Well, 55 I got the bell. Yeah, it was fine. You got the bell, 55. 45. 45. That's right. That's right. I apologize. what fifty five of the uh...

just that's right apologize that's like for you i'm sorry never got the bill no no that's that's right so so now you really did do everything i just mean forty five those some of those fights they're close to the

they yeah you can the very very test go out of those preclose up that's what i mean you can very very very tell us about all those pretty close. That's what I mean. You can make the argument that the bed was all there was. I thought I'd better answer that. I was with your family because I was in my hometown brookfield. I was in there if I was with your family.

They looked at me like, yeah, the friend yeah, I'm like easily. Yeah, I don't know why I thought I wanted to go out. The one of the panels, what? I know. That's what I'm saying. So many of those like that just didn't go

away for whatever reason because that's the business. It was at 55. That was a fuck I thought it was 45. I know that Benson and St. and for 55. But, but I remember when I was so high on your red regas, I come in all crunk because I was a Taekwondo guy. And I'm like, Taekwondo's here guys.

And Brenna goes, yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, but that's great, but it doesn't work against the higher level guys. I go, excuse me, sir. Yeah, it does. That tornado back kick and we'll kick and all this. Well, I tell you, I said, because it's a worse fight for the day.

At the time, I'll say. And they give, and you love to, you know, you're, they give them to Frankie and you go, but don't give them to Frankie. Edgar, don't do that. And I always wanted to know, because he was doing some shit that a lot of people weren't doing.

He probably thinks that you didn't see in sparring camp. How was it that you were able to kind of break that shit down right away? Just close distance. Yeah, Mark just close the gap, getting on him. That's it. So he kicks her nose. He also has a super power on his team in Mark Henry.

Yeah, yeah. So I worked with, I worked for my croakup, like, she'll work with him a lot more. Right. Because he'll analyze the guy, I'm like, here, here, here. He gets here. He's like, man, it's hard to say. To me, you know, he didn't do enough credit.

He didn't want the credit, but I mean, I think the best I've ever talked about him before. I'm never seeing a thing like that. He ain't, he ain't, he's done coaching. Oh, is he done? He ain't. I'm noticing he's done coaching. Oh, is he done? He's coaching, I'm done. He's got Corey Anderson and Caitlin, Choukage.

Oh, why you saying? They're both kind of on their way out there. That's true. So he's done. And he also has the best pizza joint. He does. His pizza, what's it called? Flampinos.

Oh, bro. Mm-hmm. I'm telling you, first time I met him. He fucking called me, by the way. He goes, I mean, it was too, I got too many him. He fucking called me, by the way. No. He goes, I mean, it was two, I got too many texts. He's going, the pizza, the dough. I'm getting like fucking paragraphs about dough.

I was like, hey dude, I'm literally busy. It's a satire. That's so nice. You were upset. You were upset with the pizza, can't beat it. Yeah, it was great. And then, so Mark Henry, I flew out there to train with, pranking the boys, and really to get with Mark Henry, because I phrased his master behind I was at Hanzo's, I went to Mark Henry, I flew out there to train with Franky and the boys. I'm really to get with Mark Henry

because I first used this mastermind. I was at Hanzo's and went to Mark Henry. And then Warren is, he's the nicest guy and a great family. And he's like, let's go to the basement. Okay, this is weird. And then I, he was, take your shoes off. I think my shoes off.

And he's like, just shadow box for me. And he has seven pages of notes as I'm shadow box. So I was like, whoa. Really? Listen, was he a boxer? shadow box for me. He has seven pages of notes as I'm shadow box. He was really. If you listen, was he a boxer? He boxed it. He boxed it. He boxed it. He actually had one pro fight and then he kind of, he had like a two way wire with the hardest.

But he was a European champion, Golden Loves champion, all that stuff. And then he's one guy who can translate the MMA. So if you listen to Frankie's fights, it's literally like March playing a video game. Because you'll tell, they have they talking this code and they switch it every time. It's like NFL offense coordinator with the plays and he just goes and Frankie's like,

he'll wear, oh, wear like something like that. QB things. No, they're level. And he's so stressed out when you're fighting. Oh, but he's, dude, he's so stressed out. I have to tell him on Fridays, let me go. Friday, I don't want to hear nothing about fighting. Yeah.

Shut it down today, tomorrow, pick it up. I feel like you're, you know, you picked up boxing so quickly, like your footwork, you just looked like a real boxer. Like for a guy who is a wrestler, boxing looked like a can. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I got to give it to Mark Mark was my only boxing coach You know, but I I just was well, I think boxing you got to be willing to get hit Hey, no, I was willing to get hit I think was it was it manor canes was who is it you had a crazy fucking fight back and forth

Maynard. Yeah, manor. Yeah, both may well for three times Yeah, man, both made well for three times. He hit you both. Yeah, it was just good. I think today's culture, they probably would have stopped the fight. I agree. But yes, but when you trained, when you trained, was you were coming up, because I know Brendan had this. And I think it's, I think it's different now, correct me if I'm wrong.

You guys would, would get in the ring and bang. I mean, is that true? Yeah. So guys were getting fucking cracked in the head. We just fought pretty hard. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it. Like you didn't only better. No, it is, in the beginning especially.

I mean, I fought three days a week. Three days a week. Three days a week, yeah. And is that different now? Yeah, I started going to the other two days a week, but I still fought pretty hard. I mean, you find good people to go with. Yeah. But then he would get, his find good people to go with. Yeah.

But then he would get, he would, his coach would like hire a giant kickboxer. Yeah. You knock him out, here's a thousand dollars. We go to boxing gym. That's usually where you go to boxing gym and, you know, you're only white guy in there and throw a game of 30 looks. Yeah, and they don't play. No, they, they, they, they hurt you.

They're trying to knock you out. Yeah. Right. But also like later in a career too, like Mark Henry because he got some notoriety because of your success, then all those other guys are coming there like who had Marlon Marais. Marlon Marais.

It's a beat, it's a beat, Eddie Alvarez. Eddie Alvarez, so the whole boys were there, but that's some barbos. That's some barbos. The train with Subeet. Yeah, what happened with Subeet? You know, honestly, he's kind of a quiet dude. So, you know, we train, we don't really hang out that much,

I guess you say. But I don't know if you got something happen with a medical issue or what not. He, well, he, what this is, and then I, so he retired and then he was waiting to give the, if he wasn't given like the fight, so he was like, this is stupid. So then he's like doing something to medical.

Yeah, he's not a doctor, but he's gonna pursue to be a doctor. He's gonna go for it. He's gonna go for it. But the beat, when he was first gonna get a one fight and you'll see, Mark DM me and was like, job, I'm telling you, dude, this the beat kid is the best I've ever seen. He's gonna be world champion.

Everything wrestling, right? And since then, I was a golpe attention. He's the hardest sparring rounds ever had in MMA. Is that right? Everyone says that he's like I'm talking just please six to Yeah, yeah, we tell the hormone monster Yeah, he's the younger than. There he is right there Man you're so good. Oh my god He was such a savage

Savage and Mark was like I'm tell you like you know the guys on my camp the beat Dominic Yeah, he doesn't look like Abe Lincoln. Yeah, Abe Lincoln out there. How did he suck that kind of weight? Was he just super skinny? He's definitely skinny, yeah. He was fucking big, though. That is movement.

He was like, good at everything. Yeah, yeah. He hit some with the saddle of stress. Yeah, I mean, like it's not. He was a doggy, doggy, doggy, doggy, doggy, yeah. Did he come out of a Kabeep's camp? No, he's a doggy stamp fighter. Yeah, that's the name I can't I remember from dog stunts out of the

compete. I believe they are now I tend to stare. They're all close like comfortable. Right like like some Yeah, his background was different. That's what Marcus. I know where he went. Yes, he's like this is different He does a win-win chant like like his kung fu win-chang Well, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win, they didn't grow up wrestling, they could wrestle their wrestling. You know what I mean? They just read it. He's an insulin because he was like just sick of like the politics of the UFC. And he thought the gym of fighting, then he was just like one day, he was like every tie. I think he did. Like he's like super popular where he's at.

I think he's doing all right. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, he's smart. Dude, he's going to Mexico. He's supposed to picture him like an Anderson. He's got horses and shit. Yeah, he was a gay lord fucker. I think. Smart dude guys gonna make a supposed to picture of him like you know, there's got horses and shit The day Lord

There's a lot of doctors People are like are you the beat also to be your hair? You're not a I don't yeah, are you the daggers? You're not a, I don't, are you the, are you the daggers? You're gonna be a surgeon. If you're gonna be a surgeon, I don't want that beard. Right, I don't want that beard hair in my fucking, in my innards. I also don't want those hairy arms, really, brigham. That's a very hairy man. That you say, if he comes in, first of all, he looks drunk all the time.

I'd be like, sir, why don't you have a mustache, why do you have that much hair on your face? Isn't it great though, he just was thinking of the ball because I'm out and he was like, top four in the world. I love it, I love it. And we never got the fight. It's like I'm out and he's like top four in the world. I love it And we never got the fight. It's kind of a shame Did you ever want to quit or did you always love it? Yeah, he's loved it. Yeah, yeah Did you ever do you think maybe you want a coach? I'll coach. Yeah, I'll help guys out now I've always been helping guys out my kiddos my kids. Yeah, my kids wrestle

I want to fight you think my middle guy does says he does, but I'm kind of like, let's worry about wrestling. Let's worry about getting into college. Yeah, do that. And I won't take it from there. Did you rest in college? He has. I did.

Which where? I went to Clarence University. It's a D1 school in Western PA, but like everything else, D2. So it's kind of a small school. Yeah. Kerdango went to my school. Oh, we did. Yeah.

But then also, I want you guys, rest in that Rutgers too. I coached Rutgers for a couple of years, and I train there throughout my whole career. The stress factories down there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right, great club. Yeah. Hey, I did stand up.

Oh, we saw a clip of it, yeah. We were probably on the show here. We saw a clip of it. I didn't see it. It was good. Little rock. I mean, I was nervous as hell, you know. But I did write most of the shit for your first time? I did write most of shit

I'm hot out me some summer Yeah, yeah, and it was cool. It was cool. I did it. I got offered that just asked me to do the MMA awards Presenting awards Yeah, it is I forgot I forgot to get back to Adam to the guy anywhere. I'm sorry. I think you're gonna be there No, I'm not gonna be there. It's it's it's it's like tomorrow or something Yeah, it's it's it's soon. I don't know Yeah, you're a calm process But stand up

Fun doing it was fun. It was cool. It was a good experience I'm I don't know because they brought up there like Franky the stem like, oh, that's fucking great Yeah, I know it went well I thought it was I it was I think the crowd was M a fan and make fighters There you just no, I mean date the Adam Ashley. I'm like fucking I'll try it You know, I'm down to try shit that scares me, you know, I don't know if I do it again I don't know the reason I'm doing it again is I think I can do a little bit better. Yeah, but I don't know if I do it like Fuck your bad. Don't get bit by bad stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Were you nervous? You know what? It's crazy. I always say fighting. Fighting, I'm nervous in the back. And so you go out there and your fucking cage nerves go away. It's like the opposite. So you get off stage like, hold it, fuck, I got the nerves.

You get the worst, and it's not going well. Yeah, oh my god. Fucking Matt Sarah, Matt Sarah, I'm with the lab factory. Matt, Matt's a wreck and he's got to just stand up for that, looking for a fight. Was it Matt, Dana, and Dan Thomas? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I didn't know that fucking Tony Haskell had written,

Dana's jokes, but Dana did a great job with the fucking jokes. I thought he had written them. So I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, he did a great job. But Sarah was so nervous, but he got up and he fucking did a great job. He's hilarious, period. And this is so serious.

But we get off stage and he's so excited. I go to, I go to just kinda like, you know, kinda go, good job like that. And he's so excited that he just comes over and he meant to kiss me on the cheek, but my lips were here. And he just goes, and we just fucking bump slapped here. And he fucking bumps me out. That's it.

That was great. He's so funny. He's like a Joey Diaz. He is. He's like, it's just always on. He is so funny. He is.

He's such a good dude. Well, so not, if you retired, so then you're out of the you saw the pool, right? That's done and told him to beat it. But I'm on this side of, that's fucking panning the ass man. Beasts, right? That's done, and told him to beat it. But I'm gonna decide, that's fucking pain in the ass man.

Beath, right? Why? Do you wanna go on tier-at-teens shit? No, I don't think I'm ready for that yet. Right. I don't think, I'm in that chapter. You have no interest? No, I think it's actually, I'm gonna go get checked.

I'm gonna check it out. I don't feel like I need it yet, you know, I'm fucking still feeling it. Yeah, go back in the old days. I mean, it wasn't on the herd up for all the fighters to be doing something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was though Wild West. Yeah, one guy to tear to the exemption.

Like, yeah, please, yeah. And then shut that down. Do you think that you sat us down as good or would you remove it? I don't know. I think it's, I guess it's good. I mean, if you're gonna, Cheaters gonna cheat,'re gonna find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a way to find a Yeah, that's most of the problems, you know, yeah, how do you feel about Connor? Basically, yeah, the other protocol, I mean, and he's obviously like obviously what he do right?

He got out of the protocol. I mean listen, he's fucking like broken half. I mean, I get it. You know, I do the same shit. You know, he did it. He's doing it the right way kind of guy. I'm gonna get out of the pool. Not to pick the shit. I'm not gonna be not not come back in. Yeah, you can't blame unless he gets the special Exemption doesn't have to do six months. That's where it gets dicey Yeah, they let him fight like saying February Why would they get on cuz he's kind of a cookie. Yeah, right and then I kind of make I'm sure one money money makes the world go around so they can make exemptions and they're like and I I mean I think the the hard cords will be, like MMA media will be upset.

Yeah. But the public is like, whatever. Well, he's such a draw, but, but, you know, it's interesting to see what, well, I guess he just has stuff to prove because he has been one of five. I mean, no, I just think he likes, he likes to be the same. He likes to enjoy. Yeah, he's, you were supposed to fight him. Yeah.

We came close a couple times. Yeah. That'd be an interesting fight. Oh, great'd be great. When he fought Mendez, I was on the line. Stand by, yeah. That fight. Because he fought Mendez because he was fighting Dos Angeles

and then he'd put Dos Angeles in. Yeah, like two week. Well, he had a real problem with your wrestling, man. And I was boxing as you know. His speed would be a problem. Yeah, frankly, yeah, especially back then, I'm a real bro. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that would have been a fuck man.

I was even later on, he said he wanted to fight me too. Like, yeah, he still goes after him, but then didn't go through it. Yeah, so interesting. Yeah, for him, it's like, you know, he wants to be the man. I'll see you fighting the way he gets that attention. I just think, you know, everyone's like,

oh, the money, the money has changed. You know, I'll see if you're sleeping in Gucci settings. Yeah. It's tough to get up and do that. Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm never fighting again. But, you know, I just think with his, it's not, I mean, I think everyone has an ego with his ego. He's just like, I gotta, I can't go out like this.

Yeah, to each part of his identity. I think he still has a lot of fight left in him. Yeah, I mean, especially like I feel like he's into imbalagants. Exactly, it was bothering him. I think he lost his pop. I think it's just tough at the level of success that he has to make the same sacrifices

that a guy like, say if he fought those angels, like those angels would make. Even though those angels is older, like he still is still asleep, it's about it's embrace, like he wants to fight. He moved back to Brazil to train. Yeah, but he's a savage. And he has counter to move, you know, maybe.

I'll get off the yacht, I'll see what I can do. It's just a different, the sacrifices is just different. It's interesting to speculate on what would happen if he hadn't broken his Leg against Dustin because I think he looked good with soda Dustin. Yeah, Dustin's our come on. I fucking low leg Yeah, Dustin's a dog. He's a dog But it's clear and it's like a Mac truck. Yeah, and he was catching him He was you know doing he was catching shots and answering back with that left hand stuff. Yeah, it sucked his leg when I liked it.

But, but again, that might have been, I don't know. I mean, sometimes what they say is that when you, when you practice that a lot, so you're checking kicks, you're kicking the bag, what they think is you get these micro fractures. If you're not, one of Boy Thompson's been doing it forever, you get these hairline fractures which makes your leg really fucking weak now you kick and somebody checks it right well I also I just seen one where it was a tie fight

and a guy kicked the guy that checked to broke his leg usually doing damn yeah I think we've got it too like he has long layoffs so like he's chilling chilling chilling that he ramps it up for camp where it's like you really, your body has to really be in tune all the time. Yeah, and the base, it's not like boxing when the guys can take a year off and then fight these huge fights. If I may, you know, there's so much to learn. There's so much to learn in your body.

You're like the boost, man. You gotta be ready to go ahead and net. Yeah, the most rugged fighter, I think you can make the argument, who just amazes me, is Nate Diaz. You can kick that motherfucker in the legs, 5,000 times. You can punch him in the face. He's kind of rubbery. I think his bones are like green wood.

He's just rubbery as a fuck. You know what I mean though? He takes these fucking kicks and punches and he just never goes back. We don't check them or not. He refuses to work on it. No, he doesn't check them. Doesn't do wrestling. He's got skinny legs.

He's a stick. No, he's so his volume, that's for sure. How do you feel about the Jake Paul stuff? I mean, you guys quit. He's not a YouTuber no more. He's a fucking boxer. He's been boxing for five or five years. It's like great trainer.

He's like all he's doing. He's a boxer like, yeah. I mean, I'd like to see him fight a boxer boxer. He's been boxer for five, five years. He's like, great trainer. He's like, all he's doing. He's a boxer. I mean, I'd like to see him fight a boxer now. Yeah. What if he fought Nate? I mean, he's too big for Nate. He'd be a problem. Unless Nate could, could pepper him and wear him out.

I don't know. And as a silver triad, we didn't have fight. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, before they had some fight, I was like, oh, Jake, give me some trouble with your attention. That's all, that's fine. Yeah, he before the answer in fight. I was like oh Jake give me some trouble You know that's all there's fine like these outboxer. Yeah, foot works good He's like counter shots. He when he dropped my like to get the real deal I mean far spot the level. He's that was taking shots to the real deal

Yeah, too, yeah, yeah, he wants to do it. Yeah, he after that was like, that's not gonna be easy fight for anybody Yeah, in the MMA guys going into that world swiss you to older MMA guys. We tough, tough kids. Yeah, young too. Yeah, he's 26. He doesn't have all the weirdness. I mean, he wants to be a boxer, right?

So he's gotta fight a boxer soon, all right? I just don't, it's tough, right? Because so if I'm Jake and my toughest competition ever is Amherst and Silva, it's my lowest pay-per-view numbers. Dude, fuck the MMA media quit. Who cares about validation from the fight fans? Like keep fighting KSI, the YouTubers, like, I'm trying to get right.

I actually, why keep fighting these tough guys? So, you know, you know, you know, you have six fights and one's like, fight a box. It's like, well, who's he gonna fight though? Like, people, I'd love to see him against Canelo. It's like, I got to your mind. I know. Yeah, six fights. Tommy Ferry. Yeah, that's the fact that I think you start just

Yeah, I did start The they mean canelo would What about Andrew Tato? Is it is he see that they square? I like that one because take you know world champion kickbox. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not a boxer and there's a big difference Yeah, it's true. That's the thing to do about A to the Civil. What's A to the Civil, great out kicks and knees and elbows could do not. I know, true.

It's a different distance, everything. That would be interesting. He's a big boy, too. He's a big boy. He's not small. But it's just a fact. Who would have called it? You know,

what's he going to do when you're five so I was like, Hey, you were seeing Logan Paul. But little brother, my kids, when they were like, fucking A78, we got tickets to see Cheek Paul. Went to the Star Land Ballroom. What was he doing, like a performance? Like, yeah, he rapping, rapping and shit. And security guard came up and he was like,

oh, you recognize me, kids want to meet him? Like, yeah, fuck him up there. He's like, Frank Hager, what's up, bro? He's to watch your videos. Yeah, he's actually, man. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my even my kid, you know, because his old YouTube video still pop up and tiger that you know him like, yeah, I know. Your friend like, we're cool.

You talked to him. He's got to talk. Hey, man. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, man, he's a YouTuber. Be cool, dude. You know, it's like the kids celebrity's not just different. Yeah, just different. 100% and for your kids like to to get into fighting you dad Frank Jagger. It's like Yeah, I guess you want to do it, dude like my son says you want to find like Nobody is it's tough for you. That's what I tell you know my my one day He's he and he rest was fucking six days a week and he's all he's all in he's all in wrestling hold is he he's 12 He's 12 My fortune all he writes so wrestling. Hold is he? He's 12. He's 12. My

fourth year on he wrestled. He's actually football got him into wrestling again. So he just started playing football two years ago and it just turned him out. You know what I mean? Now he's all in on getting better football and I told his coach to tell him wrestling helps you get better football. So now he wants the wrestling again. I'm like, all right, all right. I'll start my first head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think about CT and shit like that? Everybody does now, right? I do, man.

Some of you people talk about it. You can't help. Yeah. People, and what's scary about it, I just heard it's like, you know, because I feel like I'm fine now, you know? But it fucking comes on later. It comes on later, you know? I hit you in the later round.

Yeah. It's like, there's some guys with such a bummer where you see it like hit wilder in the UFC US right right. Yeah, but then some guys you know I mentioned names where you know they come on my show like oh shit it Somebody want to tell like that's he's drooling like somebody want to know Yeah, well you see guys like I mean whenever you see these boxers like Tommy herons Yeah, dude, it's like I mean, those guys were taking so much damage though. Yeah, I think boxing's different.

No, yeah, it's constant. None of it's constant, yeah. And they start to murder young too. Yeah, that's the thing when you're like, seven, eight, you watch these kids spar when they're seven and eight, they do. What do you think about like these fighters now, like coming up at seven,

like this guy fucking guy in the UFC, 17, 18. Look at his face, look at his face. Like he's got into UFC 17. 18. Look at his face. Look at his face. Like he's got his nose is already, look at Aaron Pico. Like he'd been boxing since he was literally nine. He was wrestling on the international circuit 16 and he's a freak. But at the same time, I have to believe that, you know, when you take that much damage to your head, you, you, you, you will get a glass jaw. What happens is your brain shots off. You get touched. Your brain's like, I've been here when, when, when, when, when, when damage to your head, you will get a glass jar.

What happens is your brain shuts off. You get touched, your brain's like, I've been here way too many times. But be the majority of them don't though. Maybe not. They don't. You know what I'm saying? The majority of that kid, you know, the 17.

Yeah, that's crazy. There's a place of a Spanish word. Now all the respect, like old school like 16th century Spanish way. You may have had a cleft palate. So that may be what we're seeing. So sometimes when a child has a cleft palate, there's a little bit about, you see that different. I think I'm right about that, you know.

So it may also be the way it's faces. So, you know, that may not be, but it looks like that face, it looks like he's done a lot of boxing in his face. His nose, it's pretty flat. Yeah, and that's 17 you want to like uh well you get in this this young will guys fight as long I mean typically guys got into UFC after college most right now and they

fight for a longer time I think you get in here I don't know if you're gonna have the longest career yeah I don't know yeah yeah how long cavity when you start that young but then again look at Dustin Poirier he was fighting since he was 17. Yeah, yeah He's Charles Olivaire was fighting since 21. You're in the UFC Right, but this he's been maxed already arrived at 17, which means he's been fighting for a long time, right? No, you don't have that many fights Jim bring him up He's young he's experienced wise. He's young of course Sanhaeum has been fighting since he was 13

I think no, he came to the gym at 17. Okay. And I think it was 16. I think Chris now I'm found I think 60. I was how young can you fight in the last No, yeah, he started at 17 and then it was only doing kick-butts. He only has six fights. So he he started fighting with amateur two fights 2020 amateur and 20 in 21. So you know, he's new new. Yeah. 2020. Outer in 20 in 21. So, you know, he's new now. Yeah. Yeah. He don't have all the way in town. But to a Frank, he's pointed. You just got one of you.

Start at 17, which this kid is. When he's 25, and he's fighting the UFC, the other thing, I think, I know the UFC is the goal and stuff like that. And that's the skill, but you're gonna be fighting grown men. Yeah. You know, like, you two are trying to put food

on the table. I have to, they gotta bring them up right, you know. Yeah, but it's tough, like, like, it's war is always set at best. He's like, I tell my guys, like, don't come to the UFC unless you're ready to face anybody they have you, you can find a way to win. Whether it's number one, or number 30,

you better be ready to go, because you never know who you're gonna get. You're right. And the UFC isn't a league where they give you warm up. But, no, no, he's just not what they do. No. When did you kind of did it dawn on you that you could be great at this sport? I mean, what I probably went I got to you see first fight and you see, yeah. First fight. You just felt it. Yeah, you felt it home. What was it? I mean, I just know what I want. I got to call up. Uh, I, I, I tried to show them fighter show.

Didn't get cool. Didn't make it. I thought I was going to make it too. What season is that? Season five. Five. The first, uh, the first, uh, the first 55. Look at that.

Season, look at that. And, uh, I, uh, yeah, when I, I, I called up to fight that, and I remember walking in there. And I'm like, yeah, I was like, you know, I was supposed to win Yeah, my fuck. I'm like I'm like I know I'm not supposed to win I'm like but they if they've been in strong shirt was the champion time I was like they call me to fight strong sure I was like I'm fucking here to fucking win. You know, you know You fought Charles over Yeah, yeah, beat him

B.J. Penn twice ever heard of him Sean shirt ever heard of him for me. He's wrong. Yeah ever heard of him Spencer Fisher, interesting. Tyson Griffin, Jim Miller. It's fucking interesting. Jim Miller actually was in Jersey. That was my last fight on a regional scene before I made two of them. Oh really?

Wow, that's a tough reason. Yeah, that's a tough reason. Cup sponsor. He kicked a piece of my ear off of my head. Really? Yeah, Jesus Christ. What happened? A piece of my cauliflower flew off my ear and don't fight.

God, look at this run though. Charles O'Levere, BJ Penn, Cubs Wants, and Ryan Favour, Chad Mendez. And that Joe Zarelda, if I was fucking close. I mean, if I'm choice. Wow. Yeah. Wow. And you thought the who sue? I mean, first ballot hall of favor. Everybody. And now also for you, I think you're in a definitely a different position, position to the retired

because I mean, you have plans, right? Like, are you doing a pot? You've been doing a pot, you've won. Yeah, I've been doing a pot cast, champion of tramp for almost three years now. And how'd you link up with homeboy? He lived in Tom's River. He's actually from Maine, recently.

Roger Matthews. He's Mike, my co-host. He's from Jersey Shore fame. He used to be Jay Wowes, Roger Matthews. He's Mike McCullough's. He's from Jersey, Shore fame. He used to be J. Wow's. Husband, ex-husband now. They're two double kids together. Yeah. But yeah, he moved down to Jersey back when he was like 20.

We were friends before even met J. Wow. And he's like a big fight fan. I tell you, he met. And I teach like an informal, you know, just to let you guys come back. Could he be any more Jersey? Oh, he's shaking. Can you re-grat that affliction, church? He's like a big five fan. That's how he met and I teach like a like informal, you know Maybe any more Jersey. Oh, you think you regret that affliction church. Oh, no That's that's so Jersey you get your fake you can get your hands manicured Such a skinny. He was like skinny the skinny dude right from Maine. He's six four Fuck a big guy. You know skinny. He fucking down Jersey

You know the scene all the meatheads and all the girls I hope so that's when he started you know, he said let's get into this You know what? You start eating lip yeah, yeah, you know, right? And does he kind of on your pod? Does he talk about the Jersey Shore days? Like he must be he does yeah, he does a little bit. Show us. Yeah, insane. That's a big boy.

Yeah, he's bass, he's a big boy. Yeah, show us, I mean, just game change, right? It was just nuts. And it's still, it's still right. It's still like, I can't put this show on MTV. It really walks MTV. He's not really much on there, but. It was a team mom, like ridiculousness, right?

That's right, ridiculous sense of flash. Yeah. Yeah, but he was on there. It was like the hide of it, man. Dude, it was like the sea side. She's like where I live. It was crazy. It was bananas every summer because it was just jerseyshoeing. It's a great time in the summer though. I used to go down there and what a great time. Oh, sure. Fuckin' the best. And by the way, I knew I'd been in LA for too long. I was hanging out with my friends all of New Yorkers and from Jersey. And I'd been in LA for, long. I was hanging out with my friends all of New Yorkers in from Jersey

And I'd been in LA for I don't know a year non-stop and we're down on the shore and We're at a bar and girls are just talking to us And I'm such a piece of shit because I've been in LA and I'm going like this. I'm going Fuck what's the agenda like who do they recognize here like what you know? I couldn't understand why they were talking this because girls don't talk to you in LA unless there's an agenda Everybody has an agenda men and women. It's all a fucking contract and they were just human beings And I was like I've been fucked up for too long and you just love Jersey never leave

I mean also I never leave because you never know what happened. But yeah, I'm into it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, our whole family's there, you know. And you still work with the UFC on the UFC gym? I do. Yeah, I don't have my own UFC gym, but I'm a social worker. Yeah, a couple of them. Yeah, yeah.

You talked to Dana at all, I mean, I do. Yeah. You know, I'm so good to me, you know? Yeah, oh yeah, how can I be? Yeah, I mean, blood sweat and tears. How can you not? Yeah, you, yeah, how can you not be? I mean, blood's sweat and tears. How can you not? Yeah, you did. You kind of did what's almost impossible. I always said, I just said it to Donald's for running too.

It's like, spend that much time in this sport and win that much and stay that relevant and be that much of a draw. That's a, that's a, it's just different. It's really, really difficult and rare. It's tough to do. Yeah, and it's also like. It's really really difficult and rare tough to do It's all yeah, and it's also like a guy like him. He always hated fighting He was like, you know He's secretly wanted to be a comic entertainer and stuff like that because he had to be an athlete So but for somebody like you

So game man, and we were in love and I want to say that in front of Frankie and my sugar, baby bless us But um, it just turns into this incredibly gay thing. We're just like, you're just like, you're fucking, you're like, you're like, oh, I get it. Oh, no, no, Frankie's like, finally, yeah, yeah. Kill the cameras. I don't care anymore. But, um, feel free. Yeah. Well, anyway, I had something to say, but it turned out, it's my turn in the gay facet as it always does We've never done a show after we've done how many episodes? 800 3000

2000 Real gay, right? 8.8, maybe not 8.51 right now. That's not trailing those who didn't use garage and a lot of fun. We've never not talked about our dicks and we've never not been gay and this weekend I said then I took the time to send you Nothing but I just I was naked and I go, hope you're having a great day buddy.

And James, my pic was all, it's hot. He's like small, because that's so real. Well, no, not my dick, the fucking picture, the goddamn picture. I was very proud of my dick. My wife goes, you're dick. I go, well, I gotta send, I gotta show my boy what I'm working with. Good day, day. And I go, there you go.

Hope you're having a great day buddy. It's breathing. And I said, and I did a whole thing, if you have a great day, buddy. It's breathing. All right, and I said, like, I did a whole thing. And I think it was breathing. It was fucking five minute video. And all this lady, it was like, all small. Really? Yeah, because my service is bad and fuck.

I was in Providence. I don't see the middle of nowhere. I felt vulnerable, because I didn't get a fucking response from. Yeah, then Brian, like, a day later, it goes very quiet. Like, what's up, dude? Like, well, fuck, are you? I said, you know, that took some time.

Yeah, you should respond to that. Anyway, we're trying to come out of the closet. But 800, damn, that's impressive. Yeah, more than that. That's been near a thousand. Yeah. Yeah. Start doing it, literally.

In my garage. You know, almost 11 years ago, and then also, I mean, and those were the Wild West days, and now YouTube wants to get all crazy. Crazy. You see anything anymore about Dicks and they, you know. I mean, and those were the Wild West days, they're not a YouTube once again all crazy, crazy. You see anything anymore about Dicks and they, you know. Brennan was always, it was the first guy to do stuff like sell merch and kind of like come up with graphics

and I kind of like in a lot of ways cross market and cross, cross pollinate with podcasts. Rogan wasn't doing that, you were doing that. Yep, yep, yep. People don't realize that. Everyone they're out. You were so obsessed with kind of like, you know, Podcasts, yep, Rogan wasn't doing that you were doing yep. Yep. Yep. People don't realize that everyone there Out you were so obsessed with kind of like you know that the merch drops. Yep. We're you'd like you'd like all right Post now and that we'd post like that sold out and all the stuff and it worked it was incredible

That's awesome. Yeah, we're struggling a little bit, you know everybody's hot is yeah I mean, you know, we were doing it whatever it's all's, you know, we were doing it. You guys do it once a week? Once a week, yeah. It's in my basement, it's not fucking bad. He was right around the- It was right around the street. So it's not far, and we kick it. We, honestly, I mean, I fell into a lot of good things

because of it though. Man, a lot of good people. I was in a movie because of it. Yeah, that's dope. You guys just bullshit? Yeah, we just bullshit. How do you guys do it here? Yeah.

I bust those balls for being gay all the time. Maybe that's what we're fucking shadow man Good reason. Yeah, they don't they frown upon that Well this whole this whole Twitter dump is really really interesting that This wild man This world it's it's it's like whatever it is like if it's a simulation it's broken You know, yeah, yeah, it's crazy shit Yeah, it's notilation, it's broken. You know what I mean? Because it's crazy shit going on. Yeah, it's not good.

It's really interesting. Yeah, I'm curious because it's just more so you can keep coming out and you see these big corporations where it's suppressed the news. But they're also making Elon Musk the boogie man. It's like, what are you doing? He's a guy who creates more jobs than you do, motherfucker.

He pays more in taxes than any of you, your entire newsroom yeah he makes American cars like what we know you they hate those you buy Twitter and and he believes in these free fucking speech and no hate speech has actually not gone up they people keep saying that there's no evidence to suggest that but that's what the left needs a rub yeah but that when when the media does that they just keep losing credibility. So you keep saying the world this way,

but the rest of us, I don't believe anything. I don't believe anything. Unless I see them on eyes, I don't think I believe it. But that's not what I believe anything in the past either. And now, now that we know what's going on, we know the world is, I'm full tin foil hat. Yeah. That's not good news.

Yeah, we have Bryce Mitchell on the podcast. Oh, you have Bryce, son? Yeah. That definitely got your flat. Oh, yeah. I've had a model. That's a good. Yeah, we have Bryce Mitchell on the podcast. Oh, you have Bryce, son? That definitely got you flat. Oh, yeah. I've had a model. I've had a model. Yeah, he's all flat-erther and stuff. Well, that's what we've done about flat-er, what would you?

Yeah. And was this before, because he challenged Rogan? This is right after he challenged. We're in the steady astrophysics, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, my reasons why I think the world is round are not that good. I'm not that good. It's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire,

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entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, it's entire, entire, it's entire, entire, entire, it's entire, entire, entire, Contrary to everyone else in the science world. I'm with you. I'm around earth. All right. I'm with you But and I might think is like the sun's round the fucking moons round you could see Mars and at telescope's round Why would I would why would we be flat? They're really simple ways There's like experiments you could do right? Yeah, just a couple. Yeah You know we fly hold on you know, you know fly patterns. Yeah, yeah

We take an account the coach of the earth. That's what I'd say. That's why we fly over the Arctic. I don't sniper that. Take the curvature of the earth. I had David Weiss, who was, he's a flat-Arthur like, and he had all these little experiments. Then a science has brought him on. It was so fun though,

because he was beating me in the argument. It was great. The part of the thing was, he was so ready with his diagrams and I got crushed in the argument. That's all they do, but that's all they do. But that's fun. I liked it and it got crushed in the argument. That's all they do. But that's all they do. But that's fun. I liked it and it was part of the entertainment. But don't get it twisted.

And I said so explaining me how flight patterns, because I have friends that are pilots, you take into account the curvature of and your flight patterns of that way. And he goes, a lot of pilots to speak it out now. I go, really? And there's an ice shop around. Where is that ice shop? And what's beyond the ice shop and he goes we don't know we know well that doesn't work This is very interesting. Yeah, yeah, the whole thing. No, there's a flatter through on you got made world star What I mean months ago and he's like I'm gonna prove that there's this flat and you set this things like you can tell when the sun

It only goes up and down or something like so he says this whole thing up He's explaining it and then the sun comes up and you can see like the sun, it only goes up and down or something like. So he says this whole thing up, he's explaining it. And then the sun comes up and you can see like the horizon is rounded and he goes, oh shit. Just the camera. I can't believe it. Well, they got his whole presentation.

Well, they eyed the wheel. Just your ass shit. We asked David who I was about to laser. And he just did side-cepts, because they did an experiment where you can shoot a laser straight for a long distance. And if you have everything on the same side, it'll, yeah.

And he was like, yeah, that day he went, it didn't, that didn't work. That was a, I was like, okay. So. The Bryce says the sun and the moon are the same size. Well, he should, Bryce should, the counterpart. Yeah, Bryce should,

Bryce should speak to a real scientist and educate himself a little bit. Go to speak to a physicist or not. What they do though is they say all of them are liars and NASA himself a little bit. Go to speak to a physicist or what they do though is they say all of them are liars and NASA is all liars. NASA, by the way. Well this is true though.

What's that? That's not. No, well yeah, well the fact. But the whole of the world. Any picture of the world is not real. That's CGI. Any whole picture of the world. Yeah, I've heard that.

What's in this? I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. That not that's not around. I'm team round team round just saying Yeah, but I go we're there in the eye the inner the the space on an international space station And it's astronauts you could go to fucking Instagram probably yeah, they take pictures from from that You can see the curvature of the earth. Yes, you can feel like you know, no, we're team round here. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh man. That's cool.

Yeah, it is interesting. It's just tough because let's see who are flat earth there. And then you see what the media is doing with the Hunter Biden stuff and like suppressing that or other things. Like now we find out Christopher Columbus in Discover America where we grew up in the literature that you were reading on these books and Christopher Columbus. Now he's out. Well Christopher Columbus discovered America where we grew up in the literature that you were reading on these books

in Christopher Columbus. Now he's out. Well Christopher Columbus is a controversial thing to say he discovered America. But that's what we're talking about. Well, the whole Christopher Columbus thing, listen, like, he was a good guy, was not a good guy. Like, oh, he just got in a fucking boat

and was trying to sail to China. He had to be crazy, crazy as hell, boy. He wild boy. But you know, you find out like all this stuff can't really believe it or you know, with chopping on the apple tree with George Wight, like find out all this stuff, right? And so then all they go is,

well, if this is what gives them credit, they go, well, if that's not true, this isn't true. It's like, well, no, can't be all fake. I always equate it to this. If I went up to Bryce Mitchell and yourself and you and I said, hey guys, I know you do this MMA shit, okay. I can show you right now video of people flying

through the air, flying and doing side kicks. It's called Crouch Entiger, Hidden Dragon. That shit is based on real stuff. And I was dead serious and I showed you video of Shaolin monks doing all kinds of crazy shit, including I Keto experts throwing you with with weight. I would believe it. And you guys would go, Hey, you don't fight fuck face. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Come to my gym and see what happens. The problem is that people who are flat-errceres are not going to NASA.

They're not around scientists. They would very quickly realize that with simple experiments, they would change their mind immediately with simple experiments. I'm not even looking at the sky. There are just certain simple experiments. There are certain scientific principles that by the way, all the technology used in this

phone is based on the same principles. So we benefit, guys, all of us benefit from the science of this microphone in that TV that pushes you beyond your biology when you get an x-ray, when you have staff and you have to take antibiotics. That is part of the same scientific tradition, the same empirical measurable process that will also prove to you that gravity's real, the earth is round, it's moving a 2000 miles an hour and all those things.

You don't gotta convince me. I know, but that's what I'm saying is like, you gotta be a little bit more consistent, some, but- But also sometimes just, the conspiracies are better than the truth. That's why it's fun for them. They're a lot of fun.

They're like, go get good. They're good to talk about. They're so fun. And some of them are true. Some of them are true. That's where you're like, okay. That's what makes every conspiracy kind of interesting. Well, we all knew there was some shit going on at Twitter, right?

We all know that if you are middle of the road right of center, or if you just believe in the Constitution, there's a good chance. If you're asking questions about COVID, just asking, you get censored. Well, forget to it. I mean, yeah, of course, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, all the way to the salt owned by the same,

or it's run by people of a specific, ideological character, who'll be like, don't, don't kind of yourself now. No, no, no, I'm not saying truth. No, I'm saying truth. No, I'm saying it's a group of people that come from the same educational system, same area code, same, you know,

they're all, people in newsrooms, academia, Hollywood, they're all, the people are all kind of like, the end crown. Yeah, soft. We see like the news where they're saying the same exact shit across like, all our national news, literally the same line. Well, it's like, no, what are some people think of it as flat? Yeah, right. You know what I do? You know what I do? You're you like this is insane. I get it. I get it. I

Don't mean to pick on Bryce Mitchell You know, I he's he's just he's just the most busy. He's fighting this weekend too. I think yeah, he's a killer He is what you're what you're taking on him. What's it worth? He's got his work cut out for him like anybody in that way class But yeah, I mean tough way, but I mean, but he did the edson man I was impressive to me super impressive. It's a stud. Especially on the feet. Yeah, he started wrestling He was a wrestler like as a wrestler, right? I think so, but yeah, he mixes up pretty well. You're fan of patty pimpin? I he's just fun. You know, it's just so fun. Yeah, I know I know Jared Gordon pretty well too, so He's a new or guy. And who do you have in these fights? And for Patty, you know, with him,

obviously super famous, he's so famous in Europe. So fucking famous. Is Andrew saying he's bigger than Tom? Is that right? Yeah, yeah. And I think he's doing right by him with like the way they're kind of slowly building them up. Because the guy underneath them, they push too fast.

Yeah, with Woodley's right. Jaren Gore is not a bad, is a pretty tough one. He grabbed one, so he can wrestle a little bit. I mean, he's a brown belt under John Danna. Yeah, a brown belt under John's. A black belt in most places. Watch your ankles. So for Paddy, you know, he's not going to have a huge advantage on the ground,

but I don't know, there's something special about Paddy when you're around, like, let's get gots it. He ain't, he's not easy fight. No, no, not easy fight for Dern too. He's a big, he's five or two. And Gordon's not that big on. Oh, yeah. He's kind of a little bit small. For till too, it's like this ain't no welcome home party.

Like that two places. Can't remember. He's a former champion. Another leagues like he's a pro striker, man. like that two-p leases. I can't remember. Former champion, other leagues, like he's a pro. He's a striker, man. Oh, Jesus. Oh, okay.

His submissions are good. He was the EFC champion. He was the KSW champion. He's chomping at the pit in this fight. This is the fight. Where is he from? Is he a Polish? What is he? South African? South African. Yeah,

but he's a he is no punk middle and Walter and Darren Till is coming off an injury right? Come off the injury hasn't fought since 2019. Uh Frank, Frank, when you know you're fighting a guy, let's say a dog Astani or someone who has a different kind of wrestle. He has had a win since 2019. He fought Derek Brunanson, Robert Whitaker, and then his last win against Kelvin Gasson split decision to 2019. When you have a fight with a guy who say, like I just say, a doggist, Tony, who's coming at you

with a different kind of language, like a different kind of wrestling, chain wrestling that you maybe haven't seen with freestyle or with folk wrestling and stuff. Do you bring guys in? How do you guys solve that problem? Yeah, you try to bring guys in and relate guys. Early in my career, I used to bring guys in all time.

I mean, I had Gacy, poor EA, RDA, Evan Donum, then Edson Barbosa, I brought, and Edson, once they kind of came, once they came out, I had Edson, Moral, and Eddie. So I didn't have to bring you guys they kind of came, once they came out of the, I had Edson, Moral and Eddie. So I didn't have to bring you guys in, but yeah, you gotta bring people in. You didn't suck weight the way I was guys did.

55, I mean, I probably was, I remember when my first fight in UFC on the way to Wayne's, I stopped and got a cheese steak, so I wouldn't be that small. Oh, damn. Yeah, you feel good. That's such confidence though. How that, that's a lot of confidence. I mean, there was no other way to fight if

He was the lightest way That's right Yeah, now the 45 35 No, you know 25 25 came later. Yeah Yeah, small guys Small guys They're doing the damn thing you know the UFC's popping man. They said what 27 Sold out events in a row or something like that That's crazy and Deva just just did like 38% increase in inner profits in the fourth quarter

So they make their not off live shows. That's their best They said their biggest thing is ESPN error UFC and PBR I guess yeah, PBR. Yeah, they UFC and PBR. I guess. Yeah, PBR, yeah. And PBR, that's right. Yeah, they just took over though. Because they remember that $4 billion note was a big note to carry. People like they're going to never be able to do it.

But now it's worth the more. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. It's a true worldwide sport. We've watched it become a world. Yeah. When you walk around, have you gone to other countries where you just get You get know it is definitely definitely do. I was in Germany two weeks ago That date for UFC gym opening out there. Oh really?

Their fan base is not as big as other places. They haven't really had any German chance Yes, you need a German fighter. Who's the most famous person you've been recognized by? Oh, I don't know. I remember I was you've been recognized by. Oh, I don't know. I remember I was a high man. I met Kevin James once. Oh, I'm a fan. I'm like, you're a fan? Yeah, because there are a lot of my say Jake Paul.

There are a lot of movies, like actors that love fighters. I feel like. Yeah. Make you work. He gets to be up sometimes. That's pretty cool. Yeah, he's cool.

That's my generation. He's different. He is. He's like, you Yeah, he's cool. That's my generation. He's different, dude. He is. That's my generation. He got his lids done. He got his lids done. And some. And we got some other stuff.

It was by lids, I mean, time for it. Well, they were saying, like, Robyn was talking about him when he did the rust, or how'd you get muskled like that? And he goes, I took everything. I was taking all the drugs. Yeah. That's like, oh shit.

But it's character, well, I'm so good in that movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Sam Troules, he took everything, I was taking all the drugs. Yeah, that's like, oh shit. But it's character wise. But it's so good that movie. Oh yeah. Sam Troubles, he always says he has any comic he's done the road that movie depressed you, because he's like, he's shitty dance. I love that movie. But I was, I was like, this wrestler band. It wasn't WWE, you know?

And I was just saying, if I go to signings, I'm like, man, what the fuck, you see fans like WWE fans? What the hell? No, we're not. Our fans are, are even better. Yeah, I'm like, man, what the fuck you see fans like WWE fans? What the hell? No, we're not. Our fans are even better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's levels. Oh man, there's levels.

There's levels. Oh, but it's very strange. So if you've ever gone to Monster Jam, it's like they did a calling like, hate ugliest people in Southern California. Come to Monster Jam. And not a lot of us all like Confederate flags. Front pads.

Just bare and fucking. Florida's like that, like you can, if you can go to like Miami, you can go to Naples, but if you step outside, something, if you go like 30 minutes, that way sometimes, you're like, what the fuck is going on here? It's like alligator central. The hottest grass, 3T.

All right, it's weird in Florida. I broke up a fight When I was in Florida actually I mean, I mean I like was too old guys one girl fighting two girls and One girl walks by the what we're sitting here at Virginia our boy Eric at the rest of the Regina Yeah, fucking the best so you sit there. Yeah, and Eric opens up these crazy wines. We eat and stone crab and we fucking hang him after the show laughing and it's great. And this these two they were Well, her skirt was

Well, I could see everything her skirt, you know, she was just She'd she'd been She had some bruises on her legs from the pole. She was a rough. In Naples? Yes, sir. In that area? Correct, sir, but it was late, so they were walking.

How the riffraff get in the hole. They were older looking for some old guys. Yeah. That's what happens. That's where the money is. Have you been in Naples like an older town? Sarasota area. You'd have the most color there.

So the girl, there's a girl. She's with these two kind of young guys. And she says something like, look at these two skanks. Old school. And the girl turns and goes, I'll deep throat your cock right now, motherfucker. I'll deep throat it. That's your girlfriend.

I'll deep throat your cock. So we're eating, we're like, she's saying I'll deep throat your cock. Right in front of us right here. And we're like, well I was rather aggressive those fighting I mean Well now the two girls come back because the other goes fuck you and there's words now we're like Oh, that looks like a population. Yeah

Next thing you know Bam, bam, this one girls fighting two girls and they're going and the one girl starts we in but the oh the girls I I the Girls who had said I'll keep throwing you cock they were the aggressors they came back the yeah and they they kind of they began to fight yeah this girl this girl gave it back and when I tell you she was throwing well she was going but like throwing like straight punches and catching you could just hear That's right. You could hear it. Yeah, like in the face. I swear to God Ask Kevin Mac he was there. There was a she'd rather and just uppercut. She went no she had the girl got her hair pulled And she was she was getting her hair pulled and she went

Start up Francising Donnell uppercut. Yeah, I'm trying to stop the whole fucking thing And I at one point the girl I was holding on to I go let go of her fucking hair She wouldn't let go over hair as I'm kind of like as the worst thing about girl fight. Oh I can't hurt anybody so I'm trying to like get her out by twisting I'm just like let go and my my other buddy is holding on the girls hair. So it doesn't get crazy So is the single girl winning the single girl The single girl was winning not only was she when the death row twins got beat up she won the

dethrough twins get pushed we pushed the get go go over there and the girl who is there goes I got your fucking hair I got your hair in my hands bitches I fucked you up wow she was such a bad guy does she look like a they're all look at me be honest with the I'm an old man they all look pretty good yeah but was she was she dressed like a they're all look I mean be honest with the I'm an old man. They all look pretty good

But was she was she dressed like she was straight up just normal girl. Yeah, the girls were probably wow I don't want to say anything their nightwalkers and the cops the cop came over that we all knew and he just goes You walked that way you walked that way and that's it. That's a yeah, right But meanwhile Kevin got kicked in the shin so hard the heel Yeah, he was like fuck he literally was like this Kid me the shit How aggressive is I will deep throat You should I'd be like I haven't seen a girlfriend like that. Oh wow. They were Girlfights are I it's in high school.

Yeah, I haven't seen girl fight. Well, I see them on World Star all the time with such a fan. But I like World Star because it's black girls so they have the weight, so when they go to the red, they go to the red, and off. Dude, the rib is a lot of white girls. And it's just, it's just, these were, these were Florida white girls.

And they were rough. They were rough. I walkers, man. I will deep through, it was, I was so aggressive. We were like, by the way, a little hot. That's what I'll say. I will deep through it was I was so aggressive. We're like by the way a little hot Jesus like all the guys were like I mean not a bad looking woman Well, they're like rough, but you know she she was so much. Yeah, yeah She had a face like Frank Yanger

Yeah, it was a couple maple rascals a couple maple rascals. They weren't out of town rascals. Yeah, they're not from there looking for sugar That's yeah, there's a lot of that. Yeah, that all goes on There's nothing but oh you would have loved it there was the they had a Porsche Display really yeah, just all this forces all that shit They were look for all guys did they not find them? I was there with my wife fuck off. Thank you. I'm a young man. I got my lids done And was your when they were fine was your girl like oh, I'm an old. I am old I like this is what you realize you get older at my eyes don't look at girls in their 20s because

There's a good chance they're gonna be like, get away from it. So you don't grow up. But I'm the guy, I am that guy. This girl was with my buddy and she goes, she goes, I go, who's better looking, joking around. She goes, well, you're the guy who would pay my bills. And he's the guy that has sex.

I'm like, that hurts my feelings, but I get it. That's what I'm asking. I get it. And I showed her the video I sent you. And then she did, you know, I will deep-� your God. God, that was so aggressive. Only a guy would be like, I was like, you guys are like,

I'm like, well, I'm like, this is cool. Well, what are the aggressive states? They were so aggressive. You got beat up. Yeah, girl fights are just're having just sad days. I mean, even like when you watch them on the UFC, I feel like girls are just tougher, man. Yeah, they're me, they're me.

They're mean. That's so great. Have you been in any street fights since you've been a professional fighter? No, not. Well, since I've been in the US, you know, no. Have you ever had anybody start shit with you?

Not since I've been in the US. I remember. It's just that Jersey. Yeah. Well, you're too famous, you know. I start shit with you? Not since I've been UFC. Just like Jersey. He was a nice Frankie. Well you're too famous, you know. I'm always with people too. Yeah. And other fighters probably.

Yeah, a lot. I feel like your boy from Jersey sure might have more problems, right? I mean, not anymore. Not anymore. He still go out of the zone. He does a little bit. He's half single.

I bet he's fun to go out with. Half single. Yeah, he's like, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's, uh, he's like, you know, he, he's, oh, he's like 47, you know, oh, it's good. He's 47. He married Jenny late, late, late in the screen as kids at 40. So he lived like a single life till he was like 40. So I ran, I ran it hard. Yeah. All right. I ran it hard. Yeah. All right.

Roll the line. Yeah. She's pretty. Yeah, a lot of those kids are just short makes serious money. Yeah, yeah. Still, like nine books. Looking for an idea. Is that your wife?

Yes, my wife. Awesome. Was that Halloween? This was a Halloween. Yeah, back to the day. He's like, no, it's just a Tuesday. You've been married a long time, right, Frank? I've been married since 2008.

Damn, bro. Good job. Yeah. That's impressive. A hot second. Hot second, right. And would you hang out with any of the other Jersey Shore members? I know the situation.

A little bit. Snooki, we know something. They have a house down the shore. So we're running to them. Her husband wrestled. Oh, he did yeah Yeah, you guys This is interesting Yeah Some some Halloween party and Vegas actually I think

That's fucking and you guys were gangsters. Yeah, all right That's fucking and you guys were gangsters. Yeah. All right Just doing the thing. There it is. I chill what he got all right not that crazy stuff Bless you bless you. I can't get over. I will deep throat your God By the way, it's 10 p.m. Here PST so late. Thank you so much, Freddie, for coming out. Yeah, I did this man, seriously. It's fun. So there's a studio, a tattoo studio that's offering to remove Kanye West tattoos

from people for free, right? And it costs, it can cost up to like $3800 or $4,000. And it hurts worse than gin tattoos. It's probably, and it takes a lot of sessions. I would say, multiple sessions, yeah. It's not like in the skin has to heal. So it takes forever. Yeah. But they do it for free. But also you are kind of west tattooing on your arm. Just stick with it. Yeah.

Yeah, you got it for a reason. So stick with it. Yeah. Like I was saying, it's just like you, like you've a Kevin Spacey tattoo. Yeah. Well, it's not the same. It's weird if you do. If you're gonna say Hitler, there were good things about Hitler. It's like, look, if I'm a good golfer,

but I fuck goats, you're not gonna really talk about my golf. You're gonna talk about golf. That might be true, right? I really don't talk about golf. It's a very good fight. Well, that's like Bill Burst Show, because like, look,

if Michael Jackson and that's actually kids, we still have to come to terms of the fact that he wrote thriller. It's all this time. He says some slappers. Yeah. So, I... But why do people hang on every word this guy says? Like, he's obviously...

Yeah, don't give him a plop. Mentally. Yeah. Mentally. Yeah. He's covering his entire face. Yeah. Dude, I've shown my wife to say, that's not him.

What do you mean that's not him? His problem, too, it's like, if you would have said Hitler did some good things, obviously Hitler did her trocious things. But if he shouldn't have done the anti-Semitic thing and then said Hitler's done good things, you can't do that. But if he was just a normal dude and said,

you know, Hitler, you know, the auto body came up with highways. He did, but I can't do that, but if you were just a normal dude said, you know, Hitler, you know, the Autobahn, he came up with highways. He did. They give him credit for it. Like he has a lot of things like with his inventions, a lot of stuff that he did. But so that's all he's referring to. But it's like, hey, dumbass. You know, he can't be anti-Semitic and then highlight Hitler, correct? Well, yeah, I mean, yeah.

There are a lot of reasons. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah. There are a lot of reasons. It's common. He killed six million people a year. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's very important. It was actually more than one. And started a world war. And then all the Russians had that other war.

Yeah, he's the devil. Yeah, he's the worst. You don't get, I don't think it gets worse than, it's not like when you say, nobody has ever said, well, he's actually worse than Hitler. Is he? How many people do you know heard that? No.

Stalin was terrible. Stalin was my nice guy. What was your chin? All right, so I saw this on Robins IG. That San Francisco, they voted to allow police to use deadly force with robots. They can't stop me from stealing the right aid now. That's not so bad.

That's the robot. Huh? No, that's cool. That's like a stock photo probably, but they're saying they could use deadly force with a robot instead of having to be there personally to shoot. We already do those rounds.

Yeah, we do. Or no. But at least drones is those rounds. Yeah, we do. Or no. But at least drones is man controlled. These are the same. They're metal. They're going to have, first of all, that's what Boston Dynamics is about. You've seen that mechanical dog, right?

They're going to have that shape. It looks crazy. Yeah. It can get anywhere it wants. Lip and inch. Yeah, it looks crazy. You've got seen RoboCup. They're exactly.

They're seeing eye robot. But exactly yeah, they're seen eye robot But the robot have you seen the robot have you seen the robot that can dance? Yeah, I mean, yeah It kind of looks fake too sometimes that I yeah Just worry about picking up the human shit on the floor Instead of these robots with crime I get tough, so people just don't have a free-fall out there. It is interesting. I don't know. Like a robot.

The members of the board voted eight to three and supported the policy, which will need to pass another vote by the board on the summer six. I'm really surprised the board did. So voting eight to three. There will be so much pushback. All right.

Now that robot fucks up like one dog, some kid, like it spas down, just shoot everybody. Well, that that that board from from I understand from people who live there and are in law enforcement, that board doesn't even have a Democrat on it. They're all socialists and communists. And it's very interesting to me that they would want enforcement by a robot. There's something anti-human about that. The robot doesn't see colorbrime. Yeah, but there's so many who has to be operating the robot doesn't. That's an Asian fellow.

Facial facial recognition. What did you say? That's probably a million Asian fellow. Right? Robins? I'm not even responding to that. I didn't. I didn't speak.

I think what Brendan's saying is we have that. Hey, Kanye. It's like, hey, yeah. Hey, yeah, I will deep throat. What a threat like classic. I can't. I doubt you can. Can you prove it? Right.

Then our man's like, I guess I'll do this. I mean, I'd be like, just let her get back at me. It's fine. I'd be like, baby, believe it or shit, I mean, let's see it, right? Do you remember a co-pilot that was suddenly somehow exited the plane and died? No, I don't remember this. You don't know, so he jumped out of the plane?

That's okay, so that was a assumption before. They had no idea, he was murdered. No, so there was an investigation that happened. Apparently, he got sick and then he wanted to like, get to the back area of the plane. And there's a plane where parachute jumpers go off, right? So there's a ramp, it's open. So apparently he probably like walked out

and just got sucked out of the plane. Well, that's so, yeah. You probably just wouldn't be feeling good. I was like, you know what man, let me just get some fresh here. Yeah, he actually threw up. Oh yeah, I'm gonna throw. In the cockpit.

He threw up in the cockpit, but he walked outside and then got sucked out. The Toxology report showed that Crooks was tested for anphetamines cocaine. Yeah, nothing. Oh, he was fine. Yeah. He just walked out of the back of the plane.

And got sucked out because of turbulence and the suction. Oh, what an awful thing. Yeah, he just walked out of the back of the plane and got sucked out due because of turbulence and you know the section Oh, what awful is that that death is That's got to be the worst. Oh, you just falling dude. That's got to be the worst. So he's got one of the worst Not you think you fall he's dialing you fall or you think like you They got the way down. That's a very fucking good question because they said the people that I believe you you're alive The whole time well they said the people in I believe you you're alive the whole time. Well, they said that people in 9 11 and I don't know how they can confirm this. But you're running them. People are so hot. They were like you

that burned the line and jumped. They said a lot of people that jump their body. Some mechanism your body shut everything down. So they were like they were not conscious. Yeah, I mean, I imagine you know you're going to I mean, oh, you know, it's not going to end well, but they're better ways to die. I got buddies that sky that they oh, you know, it's not too bad, well, but. They're better ways to die. I got buddies at Skydive, they say, you know, parts of the people bounce, like you bounce off the ground. Jesus Christ. Yes, I've heard that.

Damn. That's why I don't, do I have any Skydive? I Skydives on on on 17, I used to fake ID to go. Jesus Christ. And I didn't do a tandem either. I took a class and did it myself. Did you run into this fucking banana when I was a kid? I didn't do a tandem either. I took a class and did it myself. Did you run some fucking bananas when I was a kid? I would never do it.

And I'm too big to do it. So I can't have like the guy in my back. I would have to learn. Yeah, I'm not doing it. You guys are on the 250, right? Yeah, I think it's 245. I'm like 45 pounds over that. I just have some big dude, which some.

That was my thing. I think what I was like, I don't know, this guy's having a bed. They would just want to take me with him. It's exactly how I thing. I think what, when I was, I don't know, this guy's having a bad day, but he's once taken me with him, you know. Exactly how I feel I was. I feel like we want to jump on fucking spirit airlines, Southwest. So he's got his hate message.

But dude, I was pretty good. So I went with my coach, my wrestling coach. He was probably 29, I was 17. And he has like over a thousand jumps. We went down to the drops on. He was staying the whole day and We were staying that night and tenting shit and I took the whole class With a bunch of adults and I look like I'm 17. I look I'm fucking 15 probably and I think I'm 20 some years old because of my ID

So ended a class for about the jump. They said the winds too high. You can't jump today So we could do tandem or you wait tomorrow and I'm like, well, I fucking took six hour class I'm like I'll him here. I'll go wait till tomorrow So everyone else they were they weren't staying so they jumped and all these all the people like dude You maybe just do a tandem do a tandem right fuck that But then that night we went out we go to some bar with these guys and One with my buddy Steve my coach and they all just were drinking, getting tuned up and eating, and he goes to the bathroom and they're all jumping to the car like, well let's go and leave it on like, what the fuck's up.

And the back of the drop zone, they left Steve there playing a joke on him. I'm sitting in a win-a-back owe with a bunch of hippies, you know, and the fucking passing a ball around, they're like, why drink and drive when you could smoke and fly? I'm like, my man. I'm not a dude. I got up the next morning and jumped out the plane. They're like why drink and drive when you could smoke and fly But got up the next morning and jumped out the plane Did you love it? I mean it was cool. It was quiet Yeah, like piping on your suit. It's like when I jumped out the guys are there

Essentially taking your first course, you know first test So these guys are kind of holding on to me they're jumping with me Yeah, I'll jump out some time He's giving me like the hand signals to like you know, I'm checking my otimiter Check this check that and then my buddy come Coming up with the camera and he's like, you know, I'm just like fuck like ah And he's hitting with a pull sign and I'm with him paying attention He takes my hand just pulls pulls the thing No, holy shit, you know, it's really it's not jumping if you got to fly the parachute after you do Yeah, you can't just fall down I don't know what you're doing. You know what I'm doing? I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it.

I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it.

I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it.

I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. I don't need it. Yeah, I'm good now. I'm good. I did it and I'm good. Yeah, fuck off. I don't need that shit. All right. What else you got, Jen? All right, hold on. Let's see some Mark stuff.

All right, Markis. All right, this is a continuing conversation from things that we've talked about, but you know, as more research happens, smart phone addiction, linked with lower cognitive abilities, less self control and worse psychological well-being. Barely has any likes.

People on social media are like gay, controlling. I know. Yeah, it's hard message. As I post this from my smartphone, look, these devices are not going away if anything, they're becoming more ingrained in our day to day.

How do we guard against these detrimental consequences for ourselves and our kids? I have some ideas would like to hear yours. Help and fire message, like this post, not to me like comments, sharing a story. I mean, what do you want me to do? Everyone's gonna look at it on their phones. We're just adding something.

We'll figure it out. We'll figure this out. The way we figure T.B. out, we've figured everything out. Dings out? I. The way we figure T.B. out. We figured everything out. Diggs out? I don't know. I think human beings are apt. I'm just like that.

This is probably a new figure. They were figured out. Oh no! Yeah, bruh. How do I accidentally shot dead by his own dog? Oh, dude. That stepped on the trigger of the load of talk. Fuck, bruh.

Wow. Damn it. Yeah, so I guess. Okay. Wow. I don't know guess. Okay. Wow. I don't know how to do too much dark stuff, but so the dogs, yeah, they go hunting. He lays his rifle down at the bed of the truck apparently

and the dog was to stepped on the trigger of the gun and shot him or his buddies rushed him to the hospital. What a horrible word he talks about. That's depressing. It does. I mean, that's some, I mean, I don't know. He's hunting for dogs. He's hunting for dogs. It's a crazy dog. I don't do the dog, no. You's depressing does I mean that's some I mean I don't know I think the dog knows I don't think the dog know you know what kind of dog that is hey, but I mean that's like a bad

Like gun etiquette no leave your fucking gun Yeah, yeah, yeah, jump around you know you'll be to his to fetch you don't assume your dogs you'll pull the trigger You know what kind of dog that is I don't know English Center is it Yeah, I don't know it In the center. Is it? No, I don't know what it is. It's a murder, right? Right? It's a murdering fucking dog. And I should kill it.

Fuck, dude. It's so depressing. You know what, that sucks. Why'd you poke my deck? We've got a lot of taste, man. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. All right.

Evan Rachel was girlfriend, illima, gourd, denies nice coursing woman to accuse male man of assault. So I don't know if you guys have been paying attention to this, but it's one of these things after the amber hergiene and up trial where she releases this big documentary, accuser male, man said of all these different things. And as Marilyn Manson has finally filed this extensive lawsuit. Could you have been pretty mom on it? He hasn't done it. Yeah, he got it all together and then released, you know, like filed this extensive lawsuit. Could you have been pretty mama in it? He hasn't done anything. Yeah, he got it all together and then released,

like filed this lawsuit and it looks like this woman, Ilma Gourlick, I've been reading more about her. Is that her on the right? No, that's definitely what. But she's, I was just watching. Did her bad for him, right? Look at that picture. There's some interesting points to it

where they go, she's recruiting girls to like, you know, possibly coercively. Actors like girls come to you. It's like, go out and find girls who make that any entrance. So she was fine for him. That's one element of it, like, or finding girls to testify or say,

oh yeah, I'll say that he did exquisitely. Maybe one on one date with him say this, you know, to make it seem worse and feel okay. The discovery, she's like, he was really into Satan. It's like, it's Marilyn Manson. I mean, I've heard things about her. I've heard people, but I just think about her. Right, yeah.

So it's some interesting things are coming out because if you watch the documentary, it's like, oh, obviously he's guilt like them. It seems so clear. God, yeah. But she's also looking at him. Yeah. He's a vampire.

And Elmagor just seems like one of these people like, you should get a hold of somebody like Evan Rachel Wood and like planted in her mind. And I guess she kind of has a history of scamming people. This Elmagor will have a meeting about you. What was a movie she from? Would I know her from? She was in Westworld. Yeah, Westworld. She was a movie she from? Would I know her from? She was in Westworld.

Yeah, Westworld. She was in Cross Marvers. You know, to her, I know somebody who worked with her. Yeah, what she say, or what they say. I got stories, but I'll keep it to myself. Was she in like Black Mirror? No, no, I don't. Where do I know her from, 10?

She's a hell of an actress. Oh, True Blood. Oh, True Blood. She's a hell of an actress. Oh, she's a true blood. Was she in true blood. What do you, I am DB? Look, actress, actress, activist. Okay. That's just like a, yeah. Yeah. I think I've seen a recently, one of I seen frozen, frozen now. She's a good career. Keep going down to it. I'm talking about from.

Now I don't know any of these. Robot you guess true blood. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, Brad, do you point somebody who was kind of saying online, somebody who has an expertise in this kind of stuff that her dad seems to have NPD. She was possibly molested as a child. Somebody was kind of saying online, somebody who has an expertise in this kind of stuff that

her dad seems to have NPD. She was possibly molested as a child. This is speculation, but she's like, she behaves consistently with these things and kind of laid out this theory for like how people deal with the shame of sex after relationship with Marilyn Manson. Yeah, or they're manipulative bad people who are about themselves. I'm not saying that's the case, but I do know I have heard things Yeah, from what I think what I consider reliable sources, but I'm not I'm not gonna go into it because It just doesn't matter, but but either way I think when I see that stuff

I'm always I do have skeptical hippo eyes. Especially when people frame themselves as not having any agency, it's like this years long relationship. And it's like, see, you took no part in this. Like, you're just a mastermind. You're a minister of microtrolling everything. Yeah, that's right. And that's a woman is tough tick, you know.

She's a right. And Marilyn Manson too, he was kind of quiet at home, thinking, man, what's going on? I just see all these things you've had me like what you can't do anything. Well, no He was waiting building the case and he launched something. I forget what exactly He did but him is defense team launch something and it's gonna get pretty dice Oh really and then also people on I don't know if the majority is also legit genius He's like you. Oh, he's fucking smart. He's a genius. Yes legit genius. Yeah, he's a legit

But but I know I'll help you out with the rumor male there a lot of people thought he was the best friend from one or years and he's not There you go the urban man so many rumors. Well, it's so now he is saying that she Got this one scam. That's simply one of any accusations where he's like, they tried to hack into my phone to send text messages like from my phone or accounts. So like they could see these messages between Amagore and Evan Rachel would like basically conspiring

behind the scenes in a sense to frame him. There's all these different charges. Defamation's only one of them because they wanted to make it like anti-slap proof so it wouldn't get thrown. Yeah, well that's it. So just so you know, if you try to sue somebody for making an allegation about you, it won't even in California, it won't go anywhere. It's called a slap motion. It's like they're just telling the story. You can't sue somebody for telling it. It's the first amendment, which I actually agree with. Ultimately, you know, you have to kind of agree

with that, but you're not able to, it'll cost you. And then what happens is if you sue somebody for making an allegation against you or a bunch of people, when you hit with a slap motion and the judge throws it out, you're paying their legal fees. So I hope you have a million dollars. Yeah, yeah. And they designed it with that in mind. There's a number of different accusations like

that Ilmagore like swatted Marilyn Manson's house and I was watching this lawyer review it. You know, I used to be like, oh my God, like there's so many things. He said that to me, I want to watch. Yes, yeah. He's an interesting dude. Look at, this is named Boswick.

Can't remember his name, alistair boston uh... for i was a reporter who who who dissected the woody alan case and when you watch that shit to you're like oh fuck he's not guilty and what you know what is that better not guilty at all if you look at being creepy if you look at that fucking uh... that the actual court records,

that's why two investigations, they were like, no value. And they were like, there's nothing here. I mean, it's just creepy. She's the one. Oh, did he not marry his, that brother? Yeah, but when he met her when she was old, no, he met her when she was a grad student.

He didn't know her when she was a kid. It's not true. He had met her once or so. So he met her as a theft order when she was a grad student?'s not true. He had met her once or something. So he made her a stepdaughter when she was a grad student? Yeah, but he was already estranged from his wife. But like Marilyn Manson, it makes it because of stuff like that, where it's like, oh, he's creepy. Therefore, we also believe that he's a...

Well, Woody always was a great director with Marilyn Manson, like, you know, biting heads off that. Look at that. We go about 20,000, 900 million dollars by pain to speak it at events. This is a different. It's not FTX, but a lot of these places I think have, you know, because the price of the product is not that good. It's not that good. It's not that good.

It's not that good. It's not that good. It's not that good. It's not that good. it's not FTX, but a lot of these places I think have, because the price crashes are other things of ripple effects from the FTX collapse, I guess that's what it is, but it's hard to feel.

That's for them. Obviously. Incovox is just, I mean, it takes a male's, obviously they have an issue with their agreements with Facebook, but they keep making bang. Yeah. And they should be going takes a male's, obviously, that an issue with their agreements with Facebook, but they keep making bang. Yeah. And they should be going for a super long.

I remember when it first went up to like 20K or something, they were worth a billion dollars because of that. So it's like, you know. The Winkle Lost Twins and what's that movie? Oh, The Network and The Network and The Network. The Network by Army Hammer. They also are cannibals. Twins accused of cheating on exam when 1.5 million dollars lost.

Yes, this is an interesting one. These girls, I guess, were sitting five feet apart, their identical twins studying at Southern Carolina Medical School, and they were like taking an exam, sitting four or five feet apart, and a few weeks later, school officials accused them of cheating, it became a whole hard deal, they were freaking out. Obviously they weren't doing that, but it's a weird thing that you have to fight your way back from.

It's over there cheating or no? No, they were, I mean, You used that weird twin power? Oh, I don't trust them redhead, but don't trust them, right? They believe they were signaling by nodding in unison or doing like certain things that like- That twin power.

That little thing. I'm with the positive tissue. I don't know, I think you're rushing the judge. Get him out of here. You're being a little superficial. Get him out of here. Get him out of here. Just nodding at questions. Get out of here, Reds.

There was no sign of, oh, you're just nodding at questions. Twin telepathy, dude, I told you. But that is a thing. Twin telepathy. He thought me. Kinda like we have. Oh, he thought we had. Look at the cheaters. Look at him. And they were like, and in part of his case was like, they have really similar grades.

It's like, well, they're twins. But yeah, this is a series of behaviors that looked suspicious to the evil villain in this story. So I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with this. I saw a poster there that was like, I ran his finally band in the morale of the episode, I do, you know. But I guess not.

Yeah, of course not. Part for the course, authoritarian regimes lying to the public. I have nothing to say. It's all late, Ron. Sorry, everybody, it's got a quiet here. The world's leading for a few hours. I got it.

I'm trying to see what you have. Brian has to be fighting 30 minutes. Oh, let's go then. The world. No, we'll finish on it. Let's do one more after this. But there's so, they say it's fake news. They spread that this was so there's still.

Yeah, the truth is that a reigning woman is still subject to the oppression of a radical theocracy yada yada we got one for us there's strict about the three crypto billionaires hitting their 20s and 30s just fucking died yeah and one guy was on frame to be killed by the massage and then he's dead man next day and then the younger kid drowns in like a lake or poor had his wallet keys everything on him how interesting and another guy died in his sleep I mean, you know, come on. Oh

Yeah, you think the earth is real. I mean There's some shit going on, but I'm like what why are they taking a lot of money? People lost a lot of money and maybe the wrong people lost a lot of money gangsters. I don't know man But with these people part of the FTX thing? I don't know. It's just what the demise of it. Yeah. That's not a lot of things.

I mean, what helicopter crashed? One guy died, you know. These three gentlemen have the toughest names in the world. The strip of his license in Russia in 2018 for allegedly ripping off investors. Yeah, you fuck with Russians. And those gangsters are going to fucking kill you. Yeah, that's not gonna be good. Yeah, you're not gonna strip it as license. Yeah, that's not good.

I'll get you. I'll get you. Made many on Twitter conjure up theories. Yeah, I bet. I mean, that's come on. The three of them just die. Yeah, one dude dies and has all shit on him. Yeah. Come on the three of them just die. Yeah, we'll do dyes and has all shit on them. Yeah Yeah, because one of the guys died. The one in a sleep would over last week or so and I brought it up and it's like Okay, but one person could die randomly, but then if it's three in the man we're all in similar business Yeah, yeah So no one finds it weird that not one but three crypto billionaires died out. No, we all find it Not one but three crypto billionaires died out. No, no, we all find it with

Nobody's arguing with that. I just so much really hate these crypto billionaires or they screw them out of ton of money Whoa, tightness sleep And then of here it gets this deep cut here this Twitter follower at delete shit going put C.I. In the massage and Shit coin put CIA and the Mossad and PDO elite are running some kind of sex-traffing in trapman blackmail ring out of Puerto Rico and Caribbean islands They're going to frame all this what homeboy said before he died They're gonna frame me with a laptop plan by my ex girlfriend. It was a spy They were tortured me to death and he died this thing I died the next day wow CIA Mossad and Pito elite are running some kind of sex trafficking and trapped in blackmail ring out of all men.

Man, man in that shot. And now after he died, this was the last one. He was shot by CIA. But three possible future for me. Suicide by CIA, CIA brain damage slave asset. Worst nightmare of people who fucked with me up until now, I'm sure these are the only options. I think he might have killed himself. That sounds like he ate. He's a little crazy, right?

Setting himself up. Yeah. That's Todd's dog shot him. Maybe the dog kill all three of you. I can't believe you just said that. I can't get over that murderous dog. That is exactly what I have. The dog's killing everybody.

I don't feel it. A mighty duck star was a cryptocurrency billionaire? A mighty duck's child a cryptocurrency billionaire a mighty Dutch child star which won a Brock Pierce I don't know who that is though they tried to remake mighty dogs C.I.N. side they did that a I mean when I say try was a fucking shit show

yeah does he look familiar? let's do mighty does this kid yeah I can't I don't think you like a main Frank who's your favorite actor besides me obviously Favorite movie of all time Hey, man Rocky Rocky the first one by the best I will deep throat you Too big questions. That's aggressive favorite favorite ice cream. I'll put your hair if you do favorite type of pizza Franky's up I'm gonna ask you to come in and that's pretty much ask us flight in 10 minutes. Yeah, right? Measwell can't believe flying out there for that. I can't wait though. I like that guy. He's great

You know see how much he eats lift weights do all kinds of crazy shit Who's this liver king? You got to fly out there. You're gonna go I wish that was liver king no real quick. Really what's your stance on liver king? Oh, I mean dude, you know I mean everybody fucking no look at the guy See a lot of people would say you know you and your hey, like you can't have a physique that nice and be natural. He's got a nice body. A lot of chatter on my life. Right, Kager's.

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