The Fighter & The Kid - Fan Favorite Episode 548 Mike Catherwood

Episode Date: August 2, 2026

Bryan shocks the gang with his newly shaved head, then Mike Catherwood stops back in to talk Demi Moore's giant bush, movie stars that disarm you, UFC 249 moving forward, negative comments vs constructive criticism, how different alcohols affect you differently, Chris Hemsworth, celebrity fight match up's, Pantera and much more!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This is hot live. What? What? My joke? No, I'm just... Yeah, everything. There's everything. I want the hair to do.

I wasn't prepared for this. I think you look great, Brian. K-A-S-T? Look great, don't listen to that. I know, it looks good. It's just a little surprise to you motherfuckers. Let's start. Let's start.

Let's start. Let's start. I'll start. I'll prepare. I'll start. What? My kids screamed at it. It's rolling, but it's on, it's in this angle, so.

Okay, so Brendan is hysterical. He's laughing hysterically because I shaved my head, and he thinks it looks terrible. You guys are going to be bling your tongue. What is this, dude, this quarantine. What's that? This quarantine makes you do weird shit. It makes you do weird shit.

I was like, I'm going to shave my head. I didn't mean to shave my head. head. I meant to cut it short. I was bored and I said maybe I'll get myself a haircut with clippers and I'll get the long one. They weren't long enough. I liked your, it wasn't bad before, right? And now I look a little fuzzy. Yeah, dude. My head looked like the worst. You look like the worst pigeon I've ever seen. I know. My, my, my kid called, said, you look like an ostrich. I was like, and then my daughter screamed and ran away. I was Face Timer and she was,

and screamed. No, I mean. No, but now you're laughing super hard. Dude, you know I love you. It's so tough. It's just tough, dude. It's so tough. Take a picture.

Let me see what I look like. Maybe my face is a little swollen. Nope. It ain't your face, home boy. It could be my face because usually when my face is not swan, I look good. Make you. You have the rush limb ball. You got the dot up there too, huh?

Yeah, that's an issue, isn't it? That's a little strong. Boy, that's very tight, huh? No one told you this? I brought my beard down a little bit, and that's the thing. You got to go thicker with the beard. Go thick with the beard, and then we might be more... No, dude, this is easy fix.

Go thick with the beard and then just grow your hair back out. See, I didn't expect it to look like that. Let me see the pick. That's an issue. That's exactly what I look like, isn't it? I would go for a whole shave. Just shave it all off and then grow it up. Well, that might get really bad.

You're talking about going Dana White? Yeah. I mean, no, like, just very, very finely. I don't want to look like Rogan. This is... And there's three long ears, you know, that? Hey, look at me. And you know, I love you.

It's a disaster. Hey, sometimes you miss, dude. Sometimes you miss. It's sometimes you miss Wednesday. It's sometimes you miss Wednesday. It's... quarantine to make you do fucked up shit Wednesday. That's all it is. We're fine.

Sometimes you'll grow back. Of course it'll grow back eventually. Yeah. After we're able to go outside. Yeah. The meantime, if you're going to shave your head. You're just like, I'm going to do it. Delea legitimately went, you look really good.

He's so nice. But my beard was longer. And I brought my beard down. I took all the hair. I thought your hair looked nice. I mean, you know, I thought your hair looked nice. Yeah. Probably did.

But you've had a shaved head. I think when I first met you out of shaved head. Yeah. I used to shave it. A little older and grayer, so the problem is when you get gray, now your whole head's white.

The gray beard, it's just the top is sort of, the top is a bit of an issue, huh? It's just a little patchy in certain areas. It's a bit patchy in certain areas, so I've got to. And then there's three here sticking the back like you're from like Charlie Brown style.

Just like sticking out the back. Yeah, so I'm going to have to bring that down too. The gray is great, though. Yeah, chicks dig gray, dude. Girls like gray. Girls like gray. Girls like gray.

Girls also like hair, so don't do that again. I do like hair. You got a lot of hair. You got a beard and hair. Maybe I should start sporting a hat. No, man, I don't mean to make you feel better about your hair. Hey, you know this. I've always felt bad on my hair.

I've always felt bad on my hair. You've had good hair. I mean, most of your life. I mean, I never. The last thing I'm going to feel is bad. No, I mean, dude. He grows back. She can't stop laughing.

I wasn't prepared. I don't think any of us were really prepared, including Brian. Well, I got a text with you to say, do you have Kat's number? I mean, do you have a Catherwood's number? No. Okay. Is he on his way right now? Yeah.

What's your number, cat, erase all right? Oh, here he is. Yeah. There he is. There he is. Hey, Holmes. Is this good lie? You're on.

We're on. We're just clowning Brian's hair. Mike Catherwood. Why are you cloning that hair? Look at the two of you guys. Look at it, Mike. Look at it. Just take a deep, good look at it.

Well, now I'm surrounded by two guys with very thick hair. Yeah, that's not a lie. Mike has better hair than me. That's not true. You both have pretty good. I like you with the long hair, too. Oh, thanks, dude.

I like that. You both have very good hair. Are you wearing a cloth mask because Drew told you two? I'm wearing a cloth mask because I'm a little bit scared. Are you scared now? I mean, I don't know.

I'm not any more scared than I was, say, last week when I saw you guys. It's just, I don't want to feel like I'm not doing everything I can. Within reason, you know what I'm saying? And if the government says wear a mask, I'm going to fucking wear a mask. I'm not going to wear a Michael Jackson mask. So I'm at least going to go back to 2003 emo kid with my fucking band-a-ed-ed-a-old. We're dropping some firing the kid band-iners. You know that?

Sick. You're welcome. You're welcome. sickness. Good job. What were we going to say, though? I was going to say, I've been listening to these doctors who are on the front line. Yeah.

Like, I realize that they are so fucking worried, and they are seeing people die. I mean, you know, I know the numbers are what they are, but it's really interesting to hear them because they do sound stressed and in a war. Oh, no. Hold on. Yeah. Don't get twist. Corona's a problem, 100%. Especially if you're at risk.

It's a huge problem. And it's a real big problem for the people that are, they have to deal with it. all these workers in the hospital, stuff like that, it's a big problem. Yeah. Yeah. Now, is it the biggest problem? Right. No.

Right. Well, my question is, is there's, let's, let's not be crazy. Let's not deny the fact, this is a very dangerous virus. This is harming people. This is killing people. Yeah. We should definitely be concerned and take, and be focused on, on this virus. But are we ignoring maybe as large a problem in the fact that, like, the

media definitely has currency in scaring us more. 100%. They're ready to go through the roof. Open for debate. There's a value that these mass media companies, these corporations, and it's not a partisan thing. Like I think, you know, MSNBC is just as guilty as Fox. That they're understanding that there's real currency, that their bottom line is aided

by us being way more scared than maybe necessarily. What I think is interesting is I listen to both embassy and Fox. I do this experiment. And I listen to CNN and I listen to Fox. I do it on YouTube. Try to concentrate. They can't handle my hair. They can't handle my hair.

Focus on my eyes. Oh, Brian got Corona. Focus on my eyes. I do have a little corona. I was thinking of a different virus, but. Yeah. Yeah, well. But what I noticed is that Fox is super pro-business.

Oh, fuck on. Let them get over with it. They're all dying. They're all dying over a tiny head. is that the thing you're a shoeing if Tom Hanks didn't get Philadelphia oh

damn what I mean this has been going on before you got here they've been dying over my head I was gonna say I was gonna say Don Flamenco from Mike Tyson's punch out yeah if we could bring up in the edge

let's get up the rose look at Don Flamenco and tell me if that is not Brian with this dude you just can't come in here with a fresh new hair sorry dude and casual look at look at look

Pretty similar. Yeah, he's the guy with the rose. Yeah. Pretty similar. His hair's better. Oh, there. I looked like Ari Shafir. Right there.

Oh, Ari does look like him. Yeah. He's a badass. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All right. So, may I? Yeah, please go back to people dying.

Please. Please. I'm sorry. Nice, guys. That's going to happen on and off during this entire show. Okay, fine. My hair is a little tight.

My hair's a little close to the bone. We know this, right? And maybe I made a mistake. Maybe. What did you? Did you dis shave it? I didn't mean to shave it. I was using a shaver, and I said, I'm going to clip my hair universally,

and I'm going to have a long, you know, a long bit on the clipper. And then I realized I went, oh, that's too deep. Oh, no. Oh, boy. And then I had to commit all the way. We were all having fun with it, but you look fine. You look good. Thank you, buddy.

You have a very, like, masculine head. Like, there's some people who I have buddies. No, seriously. Don't worry about him. Like I have buddies. It sounds like a tea kettle. Yeah. Going off.

I got to eat at all. Is the tea ready? Is tea ready? He just... Shop, you got to admit. There's a thing, though. Like, some dudes get the receding hairlight, and it's like, it looks like you look wimpy. He has, like, the Bruce Willis, like, you're like, you know, right back.

I look like Bruce Willis. You know that? Yeah, dude, you look sweet. Bring out Bruce Willis when he's younger. Now, listen. Yes. Well, Fox News is way more... They're kind of playing it down a little bit.

They're favoring sort of let's get back to work. Oh, there you go. I'm Bruce Phyllis. Do that smirk. Do that fucking shit eating grin. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you do look but look how he did it, dude.

Like, that almost looks better. He's straight big. Yeah, he's straight back. Well, there he was when he was a young man. You could be that, though.

Yeah. Yeah, I could be that. I can be what? That guy right there? No, no, no, no. Don't stay so fast. No, though, with a bald one. You're better looking than him.

Like, he looks good there. I'm a better looking guy You're a better looking. You're a better looking A better body too for sure Yes Thank you boys Thanks for the compliments Brendan

I got a fucking tea kettle Over here Sorry man That's closer I know How many more was Demi Moore Have you guys seen her Bush? No

In what movie G.I. Jane You stop I'm sorry to interrupt you This is worth it Demi Moore's Bush In 19 I believe 83 is so big

that you, I guarantee right now when chimpels up these pictures, you're gonna say that's not real, it is 100% real, she has acknowledged them, it is from Wii magazine

in the early 80s before she made it big. It's a French, artistic kind of nude magazine. Yep. Her, Madonna, too. I've never seen Bush. Do you ever see Madonna?

Look at that. Oh my God. What? Bush! No. That's real? Oh shit. That's Carl Parisian's armpit.

That's not a bush. Oh, God. I feel sick. It's amazing how that's... Demi Moore's Bush, y'all. That's what girls did back in the day. I disagree, Brian. You're old enough to know that that shit existed.

Not like that is... That's... Whoa. That's like Chewbacca's mouth. Yeah, I still would have sex with her, though. Oh, fuck yeah. I wouldn't even slow me down. I'm just saying it would be a thing.

It'd be tougher your boy here. Well, because we're so used to just trim. Do you keep things very, very tight? A tight but not shaved. I don't like the kid. Shave is kind of weird. It's weird. Let's go through.

Go back for a second. Let's go through because I think they have some famous bushes here. Famous bushes. Madonna was working with a serious bush. What's famous? I think every girl was working with Bush back then. My thing is, though, that's aggressive. That's an aggressive.

That's a mor. bear's paw. It's a bear's paw. It's a maw. It's a egregious bush. I don't know. What's going on there? There's a Bukaki. That's not her. That's not that's her. Well, that's cool. How how ridiculously hot was she though? Oh, so beautiful. Even till this day. Oh man. That's a that's an attractive. That's not there, but yeah. I mean, she was smoke show. Yeah. How like. Brendan, said that he would, it would slow him down. That would be tough for trouble. I'm such a visual guy, my dick could go not happen. If a girl's in my zone, and I have like, I'm pretty non-discriminating

when it comes to Puntang. Like, I like it all. But if a girl's really in my zone, there's not much that could slow me down. Like, really. Like murdering my parents might not slow me down. Like, you're on. I sat next to Demi Moore. Like 87. In the movie theater, in Los Angeles, in Los Angeles, right next door. Did you make a move? I didn't. I was with my girlfriend, 1986. I was a year, out of high school. I sat next to her. It was the summer, I think, of 86. No, it's December. Okay.

I was sitting next to her in the movie theater in Brentwood or Westwood. And I remember just looking at her going, I know that girl from somewhere. And I was so taken by her eyes. She's that pretty. I remember me, and my girlfriend was that a smoke show, but I just was so taken. She was like a turd next to Demi Moore. And I was waiting outside the bathroom, and she was waiting for her friend. And I was just looking at her going, fuck.

Yeah. there's something about eyes that'll do that to you like well certain girls would do that though her voice her voice too that she had that oh it's sex that heavy recipe and I was like god damn yeah we all we've all met like really attractive women we've all been with really attractive women but there's some level of beauty

where it's like it's disarming you know what I'm saying where you're around you're like oh this is weird like it's strange yeah you're almost scared you know I'm not necessarily like the biggest fan her beauty wise on TV. She's beautiful, clearly, but in person, I was stunned at how hot Jennifer Aniston

is in person. Oh, really? Like, it's disarmed. I've never seen her. You're like, whoa. Because her eyes are so bright blue and she's like, she's in person, she's... I've heard that. I've heard that from a number of people. I said... You know who did it for me was, I was at a, like, an Oscars party and there's everybody ever seen on TV in movies is there. And I'm dressed up like a penguin. And I just, like, the crowd just like,

separate like the fucking red sea. and Kate Beckinsale Walked? Oh, yes. I was like... You told me that. I'm telling, I was like, oh, they make humans like that? I know.

What planet is she from? Yeah. Yeah, there's those people. There's the obvious ones, too. Like, I hosted the red carpet for Hancock. And Charlize Theron in person is like... Really? She's a tall drink of water, though.

Big bird. She's a big girl. Big bird. Yeah, I've spent some time with her. She's a big South Africanian girl. And she's so far from, like... My tip, I like, she's really cool. Like ethnic brunettes with long hair.

That's my, like, my real go-to. You like an ass? I like Asian, Latina, black with long hair. It is my, and you fill in the blank. You do the math. That means bigger ass. Yeah. Typically, I'm not a boob man myself.

I like them. I like them if they're there. Sure. That's an, that's an exception. But the waist, the hips. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it is weird, though. Certain, certain women, you see him like, what the? Dude, I hate to admit it. I mean, you know, it sounds dumb, but there's guys like that too. Oh, for sure. They're so good looking that you're like, well, now I'm conscious of my behavior. This is strange.

Yeah. Oh, dude. I mean, I've never been around, but Brad Pitt and once in time in Hollywood, when he takes off his shirt, like, fuck. Not so much there, but Troy and Fight Club. Those don't do it for me. Once in time in Hollywood where he's chilling the car. He's like a man. He's just still a dude.

He has, but he's cool. He has the big leather watch band on. He has the bracelet. And Troy is so even though obviously it's based on a true story, it's still, it seems surreal because it's guys fighting with swords and shit. And Tyler Durdon is a fucking asshole

that takes you out of it halfway through the movie. Something about once upon a time in Hollywood. I'm with, I'm a Brendan on this one. Like it's like jeans in a t-shirt, fucking beautiful Cadillac. You're like, I need that. I was like, I fucking. He's cruising down like the 405.

You're like, oh, fuck. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah. They shut down the 90. You know that? That's where they, when he's on the highway, they shut down the 90.

Yeah. When, yeah, when he's in the yellow shirt in the glass, I'm like, fuck, I wish I looked that cool.

He's, um, you know, I don't know if we'll have this type of thing much longer. Like a legit movie star? Where your massive A-less movie star where people go to a cinema to see you

and it's a special thing. That's a good question. I don't know if that's going to. It's like him and Leonardo DiCaprio. Because, you know, wrong there's amazing a list super talented leading men you know a younger generation the gosling and adam driver is one of my my my favorite oh he's so amazing and you're not gonna but there's a thing about

like you used to have you only got rad pit twice a year yeah well it's a or denaro or peshy my buddy who's a producer said we had it was this is 10 years ago even more what the fuck I don't get it out it's just shocking to him it's I you know I see Brian every day I just have a thing It's fucking sick. But this producer said he was talking about what a movie star is. Yeah. And we were like, well, then we're like Morgan Freeman. And they were like, and he goes, not a movie star.

What? He goes, people don't go to the movie to see him. Right. I like the movie Ziz. And he went, he went through the tiny list of people that actually get people to come to a movie. So, so movie stars like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise. Leo, for sure. Leonardo DiCaprio.

He might be the last. Leonardo DiCaprio. Denzel Washington. Sure. They were movie stars where people came. There was a number attached to them. And they knew people would go to the movies to see them. That list was so incredibly small. Will Smith would fall. Yeah, Arnold Schwarzener, Will Smith. Back in the day, I'm saying, this was 15 years ago, whatever. We had this argument. And so you could have these great actors like Daniel Day Lewis or, you know, even, even at the time, Sean Penn, but they weren't bringing people into the theater. As Dana White says, they don't move the needle? They don't move the needle. That's a very, very, really. That's a very, very Rare, very rare combination of trades. It's very rare, too. It's very rare. They guys move the needles. It's very rare, especially in the UFC, not a lot of guys move the needles.

No. Especially these days because they don't, you know, they don't make their nut off pay-per-view, so you're not getting those stacked cards. Who does move the needle besides Connor? Kabib, in Russia? Kabib does, yeah. I think Nate now does. He doesn't fight often. But there's a thing.

Nate does for sure. There's a thing about both the brothers that. I don't think Nick ever fight again, but... I don't either. But there's a thing about them that they are so iconic to like real tough guys and blue collar America.

I loved Nick Diaz. In the American Hispanic community, they're fucking gods. I like, I always loved Nick Diaz. Because Nick was this guy, he looked like he was moving at his own pace. Even when he would hit, he'd do this,

he'd just do these, weird. Everything about him was he was such a fighter and he never got put down. John Daly dropped him with a left hook and then he knocked John Daley out with a left hook. Paul Daley. It'd be better for his John Daly.

And John Daly, the golfer, that would be the greatest fight that's ever happened. Did you see John Daly recently when he threw his club into the brink? Take a look at how fat he is. Is he sick? Oh my God. He's so fat in this. He's just, you see him and he's just mad at himself.

Definitely enough. Oh, dude, he's such a gambler and such a drinker. But the UFC, not of the big draws, they're all international guys. There's really no American drawl anymore. I would put... And at the seventh par three, John is having issues. There's one that got wet. Look at those pants.

Another, and here is yet... He's a character, man. Three into Lake Michigan. Oh, man, he does look unhealthy. And with... When that... When that happens, yeah, it starts getting in your mind.

And the golf club. That probably feels good. Soon to follow. But don't despair. I'm very conflicted on John Daley because a part of me really amires a guy who says, I know I should lose weight, I know I should stop smoking, I know I should stop drinking. Fuck you. Fuck everyone.

There's just something really. I know. There's something very American, actually, that rebellion, that kind of nonconformist. But at the same time, I'm so, it hurts. literally hurts me, like almost in a visceral way, to watch people celebrate a lifestyle that's killing people. Yeah. You know, like Amy Winehouse and Sid Vicious,

the list goes on and on, where people like, oh, awesome, amazing, let's glamorize and romanticize this person killing themselves on installment plan, you know? Lizzo. Yeah. Well, I think part of it's just a surprise that they can still perform such a high level

and be such a mess. But, like, didn't you tell me this where Tiger Woods, John Dealey, Tiger was going to practice, and John Dealey goes, Tiger, come have a drink with this for once, you know? And he goes, I can't. And he was like, the fuck is your problem? He goes, I'm not as talented as you, dude. I have to work hard at it.

Yeah. Yeah, it's just like this legend. And yet he was way more talented than all of them. But that's why he's a goat. Yeah. What were you going to say, though, as far as American UFC fighters being drills? He's not American, but, you know, Khabib is a needle mover now. Yeah.

I think after the incident. But that's my point. There's no American, there's no American big draws. John Jones would be the biggest, but John, Did they just John count? He's not really a bit, you know, he's not the top. Maybe now in the world they live in, but, you know, you're looking all Khabib, Stylebender, Connor.

Has cowboy gotten to that point? Because of just his, the legend of cowboy, you know? To an extent, right? Lost too many. Never became champion. Yeah. We know him. He's a big name, but as far as like, pay-per-view draw, not his thing.

It's fucking tough, man. It is to check so many boxes. Same as movie stars, though. Like, think how hard is to be a movie star? Do you think it's impossible? It's very similar to movies now because, media and all its form is so ubiquitous. It's really hard to break through and stick with people.

I remember, like in 2010, I think there was, you know, 25 UFC events total, including fight nights, including pay-per-views and everything. And it was kind of easier for Brock Lesnar and Bisbing and, you know, the guys of that era to really shine. It's tough, man. When there's 120 events or something. They have to deliver 72 events on ESPN. And that's like 20 pay-per-views, too, isn't it?

Yeah, something like 20-21 paper views, but 72 events on ESPN. And one of the reasons that the UFC is moving forward, and Dana White's buying an island, did you hear this? No. He bought an island so he can do international fights there. Because he's like, I don't know how long this Corona's going on. I want my guys fighting, so I'm going to take all the necessary steps to make sure everyone's safe, but we're going to do the international fights on an island.

And you're like, there's a part of me where I'm like, I love that he's continued to get this done. And it's inspirational. He's trying to get, you know, society. society back to normal. I love that part. But then a part of me is like, God, why is he so desperate to do this? And then you see, well, they have to deliver 72 events to ESPN. To get their $750 million a year, they have to deliver that nut.

Because they have to. Fuck, you pay me. I don't care about COVID. No, ESPN is a contract for $750 million with Disney. I doubt they care about any virus. No, they're like, well, you didn't deliver. Like, it's a contract, man. Then we're losing money. I think it's smart to have a fucking island, a private island.

That's what he's doing. Yeah. I mean, Jesus. You could even do it on a boat Like a floating oil Or just do an island You know, that's what he's doing That shit would be sick though

Like a maritime fight Where people like helicopter Into a giant yacht Yeah You could easily fit an off the gun on a cruise ship Oh not a cruise suit An oil tank Especially with no crowd

You do a cruise ship though Cruise ship would be cool But you know how like they did You have training rooms Yeah They know how they do like old school Like Pride style Or WWE style entrances

How sick would it be if like as the card went on, you saw the helicopter. It's like, oh, no, here comes fucking Daniel Cormier. He's ready for action. That'd be sick. Yeah, they have to deliver these fights. This fight's going to be sick, man. People are hating on it.

I'm like, Jesus Christ, to pull this off in the Corona Times, it's insane, man. So is this, this is not going to be where they're going to host the Gachie Ferguson. This is for later on. Yeah, that's where the fight's moving forward. Gagee Ferguson is at an Indian casino, right? Indian land for sure. In California, maybe, who knows? Yeah.

That I do like. I know where it's at, but I can't see. Oh, national, national guidelines. Fuck you. Native American land. Stuck it. Native Americans get away with a lot, huh? A lot of money.

A lot of mullah. They should. Didn't you? I think they should. Remember we went to that casino? And the Native American tribe, like they had the picture of the tribe that owned the casino. Yeah. They were black.

Can't you marry in? We did a show, it was it Oklahoma? Yeah, something. And Brendan and I were there, and we went to Cherokee Nation. It was very different. We went to this other place. It might have been up near Sacramento, but the tribe was, let me wait,

the tribe was black. A bunch of black guys. And there's no feathers or face-bane or nothing. I know that there was a lot of, there was back in the day, there were slaves that had, that ran away to Native American, you know,

strongholds and things like that. But there was also a lot of, lot of intermarried. Yeah, just you say if you marry in and then have a Native American child, I mean, doesn't that. Every time I did an parent is when I was fighting. I think I was two or three years in the USC. I wasn't living in California.

My friend Sheree, who used to work for tapout, I love her. She goes, hey, I have this opportunity. This, a friend of a friend is doing this party for our kids. They're four and five years old. And they want a UFC theme party, but they want UFC fighters there. I'm like, Jesus Christ, for these kids? You go, yeah, it's a whole U.S. theme party. party. They have UFC cakes, everything. They're the biggest fans. So I go, okay, I do it. She goes,

they'll give you $10,000 cash. And they go, they'll provide a limo, everything. At the time, I'll do it now. I'll do it now. I wouldn't. But at the time, it was like 10,000 was, I mean, what? What? What? So I was like, oh, fuck, yeah, I'll do it. So they picked me up in this old school limo. They drive me there. It's like, I don't know, three, four hours. And we go in this gated community on this mountain, we drive up. And outside this house, it looks like bad boys, to Miami, but it's in this Indian reservation. This huge house, there's Bentley's, McLarens, Bugatti

just all sorts of, I'm like, what the fuck? You know, I'm a car again, like, what the fuck's going on? I get out, I walk in, the entire wall, bigger than this is a fish tank, sharks, just all this cool shit. I'm like, holy fuck. And I walk in, it's like training day. You remember training day? He was there with the Mexicans playing

cards? Yeah. Yeah. So, all these Native Americans and wife beaters just tatted up from their face all over. Guns laying out caches every year. And I go, I'm here for the party. And the guy goes, in the back.

I'm like, oh, no doubt. I walk in the back. Forget what other fighters were with me. I can't remember for the life of who else was with me. We go back there. It's like water world back there. It was like Disneyland. It had like this huge water slide.

Like the whole backyard was sick. They had this giant cake made out of a UFC octagon. Had like cages all over it. Nice. The kids, you know what the kids were doing? What's doing? Blot. Fighting.

Fighting. Like real fighting? Beer knuckle fighting. Oh, toddlers. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? Fighting?

Fighting. Get them. Get them. I'm like, it's like a toddler cock fight. What the fuck, man? So I talked to one of the people there who was like a handler. One of the fighters,

forget who is me and one other guy. But I was talking to her and she goes, yeah, so these Indians on this reservation, you know, a lot of them, they get a check every month from the government. And it's a ton of money. So they have no. desire to work or anything like that. So they just, you know, they drink or they have drugs.

They get tattoos, these cars. It hasn't worked out very well. Yeah, so they're just doing that. I got my money and chilled there, but once I saw the kids cock fighting, I was like, see you. A lot of addiction in the Native American community. They were super nice. That's not speculation. I go to meetings and sometimes. And my wife's from Seattle and so when I go back to visit her family, I go to meetings up there near really highly populated Native American lands and stuff.

And, you know, it's an issue. There's a lot of people in recovery and a lot of people suffering. Is that because it's like if you're getting a check from the government, there's no desire to want more. I think it's cultural, but also like being a son of a billionaire. Yeah, but also alcohol tends to, for many Native Americans is not a Native American's friend. There's certain chemistries that don't go well with alcohol. That's absolutely true. And like people get weird about stuff when it's when you pinpoint something to certain cultures or nationalities.

They look at it as like racist somehow or just. discriminating, but the reality is, is like, chemically, there's people who, for generations, don't do well with that. Well, that's why people should know a little bit about science. When you fucking prescribe certain medications, for example, back in the day when they prescribed interferon for a multiple sclerosis or for hep C before they were able to cure hep C, it worked really well with people of northern European or European descent. It didn't work at all with Native, with African Americans. So you know, you're depending on your Polynesians too. You've ever been around a big Hawaiian? He starts drinking. Jekyll and Hyde, man.

Really? I don't know if that's in every time thing, but especially on the football team, we had a big boy named vodka. When he started drinking, man, it was probably. Turned to Hulk. A lot of it's cultural too. I mean, I don't know if it like if it transcends biology. There's cultural stuff too. Like it's not stereotype. It's not, um, discriminating to say like, you know, the Irish, certainly the former Soviet Union in Latin American countries, they create a lot of alcoholics. And it's, part of it is, I'm sure, biological, but also is a lot of it's cultural. There's certain ties to that that just go back, you know, a long, long time.

Did you have any addiction in your family? I'm Mexican Irish down the middle. And both my grandparents are immigrants. So, I mean, I'm directly tied to both countries. And there were some addiction? My dad's side. The Irish side, it was harder to know because, first off, they all kind of immigrated to different parts of the country. So I didn't know that side of the family very well. Also, they were almost all dead.

My dad had his parents and that was it. Everyone died. Everyone fucking died at 22 or 30 because of alcoholism. Oh, wow. Machinery accidents. Yeah, man. You know, they were one of seven kids and not. only three made it.

It was just... The Irish side of my family from Wisconsin, I didn't know any of them because that's the same thing. Like, either they were fractured and everything was broken apart. But the Italian side, I knew everybody. I grew up with the,

that's why I identify... Very similar to the Mexican side, too, is that also because my mom had such a massive family, which is kind of commonplace, but they were all in L.A. Everyone immigrated to Southern California. Together. And there was all this, like,

extended family and everyone on my Mexican side. And so that's why also I think I have an easier time kind of relating to that side of me is because it was, it was the world I grew up in. You don't hear about a lot of addiction in Italians. No. Not really, right? No, you don't.

When you think about race. Italians, they don't even drink. Like my Italian side, nobody drank. We never had wine even at the table. Am I off on that, Mike? You kind of clinched at that. I just don't know. I bet you.

You don't hear a lot of. I could sit here and say like, oh, yeah, you know what? I don't tend to see a lot of people at meetings and stuff that are Italian, but if we went to like New Brunswick, New Jersey or, you know, or Brooklyn, I bet you would, you know what I'm saying? Although I do think culturally, the Italians never really drank a lot of spirits. Yeah. They drank, it was wine. And even in Italy. A lot of food at it. You get, yeah, you get a lot of food. Very similar to you. Mainly in Italy, it was wine. So you didn't really have, it's not the same, man. Wine doesn't do to you necessarily what

because it takes more to, you got to drink more of it and you're drinking it with food. That's such bro signs? No, it's not because if you drink whiskey like hardcore scotch, man, that doesn't. Oh no, I think Brian's right, but I also think you're right. It doesn't matter, you can definitely become addicted to and practice alcoholism with anything. Sure. But certain different alcohol affects you differently. For sure.

Let's not, I am not a violent man, but when I got drunk on Yeager or tequila, I would wake up covered in cuts and fucking bruises. If I got drunk on wine, I was like, it's party, man. Some of it makes you, that's true too. Wine kind of is seductive. It makes you feel warm. Sexy with a meal sexy.

Whiskey tequila can, you know, you want a knife. Tequila. Bring up the, uh, in Russia, they were talking, this reporter went to the mines. And they were having such a problem with alcohol in the Russian minds. And she's, she's interviewing them and the guy saying,

there's no alcoholism here at all. And then there's a guy. There's a guy who comes behind them and doesn't know what's going on. It's so drunk and they're trying to get him out of. They're trying to get him out of the fucking, this is what says. They're saying that actions. He's saying there are no accidents here.

Nobody's straight. Watch this. Watch this. Oh my God. He's all, we good, baby. There's no problem with alcohol. Look at that. It said it made any of the minor's denials a little hard to believe.

Watches, watch it. Please leave screen. It's out of view. You just hear it. Yeah. Dead. They kill him on the spot. It's sad, man.

Like, like, that makes for an amazingly comical YouTube clip. Maybe it is. I mean, I laugh at that. But you, like, think about what happens after they're done filming? That guy's life is a horrors. show. It's a horror show. Or they killed them. It's Russia. But you know, worst addiction would be food addiction.

Because you don't have, you can get clean on alcohol because you don't need alcohol to survive every day, but you need food. I have to eat. As a drug addict, two to three times a day. A drug addict and alcoholic, I always say it over and over again. I was like, my greatest sympathy goes out to sex addicts and food

addicts because. Check, check. I get, you know, I get it's very cut and dry. I was told, you can never smoke, crack, and drink again. That's it. You know, no drugs for you? No alcohol.

That's it. It's over. And I go, okay. So we get, let's do this. For someone who really struggles with eating, just say, let's get a grip on your problem. Let's really work to get at the core of what causes that. And also mitigate the outside kind of influences that can,

that can lead you back down your problem. Now, go out into the world and also make sure you stay alive and eat every day. But also, you still have to try that drug that you're addicted. Make sure you eat every day. You have to, you have to partake in it. I never knew. I never knew the extent of what addiction was. I didn't understand it.

And I never knew, I'm so not an addictive person. So I didn't know what a real alcoholic was until I saw one and I saw them drink at seven in the morning. And then at nine in the morning. And then at. It's impressive. Right? And then at 12. And be fine.

Well, I mean, be fall down, drunk and passed out. Wake up and be in a good mood because they were still drunk and drink again. Yeah. That, that to me is, like, if I drink a lot the night before, I'm so done for the next four days. I don't want to drink. Physically, I'm all fucked up. Right. Right. Some people have a constitution. They say Winston Churchill, and I remember a speaker of the house, Tip O'Neill back in the day, they say he always had some alcohol in the system all the time.

Some people just can do it. Yeah. They can just have it in their system. And it's unfortunate because when people try to deal with real addiction, real alcoholism, in Hollywood, oftentimes it's either glamorized, you know, you get like the, this kind of like Jim Morrison slash, Hemmingway kind of thing where it's like,

I'm going to start a bar fight and throw caution to the wind. And that's not good on one side. And then also, alternatively, like the cartoonish over-the-top way that it's presented to people, like leaving Las Vegas, that's not reality either. that's not reality either. It's a silent pain where someone's burning from the inside out, you know. Well, Boris Yeltsin, who was the president of Russia, I don't know if you've ever seen

this clip, I'm going to have you bring it up. Boris Yeltsin, this is the craziest story. He went on a trip to meet President Ronald Reagan. He or whoever the president was at the time, maybe it was Bush. I think it was Bush 1, yeah. Bush 1. It's obviously when a Russian president comes to Washington. DC to meet me. It's a big deal.

He gets drunk. Hell yeah. He then he loses his security detail. They found him, ladies and gentlemen, on the streets, on the streets passed out, on the streets of Washington, D.C.

With no pants on. Like Scott Wileyland. Now that's a credible source. Now take a look at Boris Yelston drunk, the best of Boris Yelston. This is the president. Take a look at he was running the country. country. He's still alive?

No, he died, and he was always he was also always drunk as talk. Yeah, but like you said, Mike, you can tell. This is vodka. Look at him. I know he can say anything because he's the president of Russia.

Look at him. I mean, if that's in Russia, that boy in the fucking Aladdin best, better be careful with too much sugar in the tank in Russia. Watch this. Watch this. Watch. Watch him talk. You are lintel light and loophers. Yeah, you ought to be careful.

Look at him, look at him. Oh, damn. Just vodka? Yes, just vodka. Always drunk. Jesus Christ. This is the sugar, boy. I mean, it was so bad.

But this is, the watch this. Clinton loving it. Oh, loving. Now for the first time I can tell you that you're a disaster. Jesus. Well, Clinton knows. He's like, oh, you're going to go on that scene's play. Yeah. We're gonna go on that scenes playing together.

See he just did there? You just grabbed that girl? Yes. He was a fucking complete. God, you know how many Russian hose he had on the side? I mean, look it goes. Jesus Christ. Have we ever seen a U.S. President hammered?

Never. I don't know if we've seen it back those Nixon tapes. Look at this. Look at this. Who! Which ones? For some odd reason, and it came back to really bite him in the ass, President Richard Nixon insisted on always recording everything that went on in his

local office in his private quarter. and they were released later on in life. A lot of them after even passed away. You can't get enough of this, Humby. There's a, there's a documentary, the Nixon tapes, I think. Because he recorded every conversation he had in the novel. He did a great job of holding it up in the public eye, but behind the scenes in those tapes, some of it's really sad.

What's this? You're talking about. Nixon's drinking. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah. He would be hammered. Especially during the, as things turned off. I mean, that's not.

I mean, that job, man, it would lead anybody to the fucking bomb. JFK was a, JFK was a, drug addict. Extreme drug addicts. My favorite president. Extreme drug addict. And that's,

speaking of guys who held up. He also had style too. I mean, no one, no one performed better when the public eye was there. But the best. The man was a daily amphetamine user, daily.

And if you ever seen a list of, yeah, and also hired pros non-style. The list of, yeah, the list of fucking real caliber. Drugs he was on. It was crazy. And his style is fashion?

That was the only, that was the only dime piece president we've had, right? Like, for sure. I mean, Obama's a handsome guy. But as far as like, Young Ronald Reagan was a bit of a man. I'm saying as a president, though, JFK definitely was handsome.

Yeah. Yeah. Bush looks like shit. Clinton's not terrible. A lot of, a lot of chicks, Doug Clinton. He is now.

A lot of women love that. He's a disaster. He looks like the emperor in Star Wars. He did a lot of much. He did a lot of fucking. He looks terrible. He had a lot of gals. How can you,

dude, if you're president, how do you not bust a ton of nuts? Well, you're the leader. of the free world, dude. I agree. The world is your oyster, literally. And you're supposed to be perfect.

And, you know, that would be tough when you got... Dude, you don't get to be president without having some... I got to say, how do you... Your question is, how do you be president without busting nuts? My question is, how do you become president?

How does anyone... And I don't mean... Going through it logistically. I mean, what... What person wants that fucking job? He did. No one does well, either. Like, it doesn't go well for anybody. No insati.

situation. Half the people fucking hate you no matter what. Yeah. That's right. You're going to kill people no matter what. Half the people happy, half the people hate you. Every time.

You have to murder a lot. You're killing how God knows how many Syrians and Afghanis and what you fill in the blank. You have to, it's your job. You have to decide on an exponential amount of American bodies on your head where you're like, yep, sending in a couple hundred thousand Marines there. It's not only that.

But he's signing off on that. But even. signing off on bills like it with health insurance and jobs and like dude if you if you don't sign this a lot of people are in a dime yeah it's also this too like i was talking to bush's aide one of his closest advisors a long time ago got me bush's aide and that yes and he said uh and he said see a lot of people think that a president will can have a conversation with the leader of a country and tell him to do something it's not how that works what do you mean so let's say chinese espionage so the chinese steal a lot of our secrets yes

In no way can a president say to President G, hey, dude, you're stealing? Cut the shit. Cut the shit. That's not how it works. It would never work that way, ever. What will happen is they will be having a protocol of discussion and then a subject, the subject of, it seems as though there is some technology. There is some technology that is being transferred without authorization. And that should be something that should come up at a later date.

if there's a way we can do that. And then they would have their representatives address the problem to, it's all this formality. It's not, the president can't say, I feel like Trump would. I feel like, hey, bitch, he might be stealing shit. Which is kind of what I like about it. And I bet they're like, this not how this word is.

Well, the WHO, if you listen to him with the World Health Organization, corrupt as fuck. And clearly in China's pocket. There's no question about it. You're talking about the video we got on the sentence. China has huge influence over the, over the WHO, to the point where the doctor of the WHO is not even Chinese, wouldn't even admit or answer the question that Taiwan exists.

And Trump was like, we, we, we, these fucking guys under Chinese, under Chinese direction, first said that it wasn't human to human contact. They said it was, that you couldn't catch it that way. They, they were against the travel ban that I imposed and called me wrong and then I was called a racism. He goes, and you know, it seems that they're very China-centric. They're very, they goes, not favor of China, but China-centric, let's say.

Everybody knows that China fucking exerts massive influence. The Chinese Communist Party, not the Chinese people. And so he was like, you know what? I think we're going to defund it, maybe. I'm going to look into that. I think that's an excellent threat. Whether it's true or not, I don't know what the WHA

probably does a lot of good in the world, so I want to be careful. I don't know enough about it. I do think that they are a corrupt organization, and I like that he threatens, we give them 22% of their budget. I think the Chinese give him only, 13, I can't remember. I think just the video

it's on Instagram. Maybe not. Maybe not, assholes. Well, I mean, do you remember even before he was president? He gave a speech where he says... Is it Tucker Carlson or no? What?

Is it Tucker Carlson? No. He gave a speech I believe this was before he was president. Is that it? He says in front of people, at a podium, he said, you know, Obama's not dealing with the Chinese the right way.

If it was me, I would say, you listen, motherfuckers. Those were it's real way. He really said that. Yeah. And he's talking about China. Well, China is... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, dude. You're just, Samuel L. Jackson?

I'm going to send you something. I'm going to send you something to. I got it. That I want you to hear. You listen, motherfuckers. Yeah. And I quote, by the way. Like, that's not...

It's funny, man. Oh, listen, man. They're not our ally. How you describe talking of a president have to go through the process of, like, bringing up a subject and kind of, like, intimate things. It sounds exactly like how you would talk to your wife or girlfriend. Is that top?

that one here. Chen, I'm sending you something here too. This is the one you sent about B. Or did Eddie send this? WHO, that's the World Health Organization, receives vast amounts of money from the United States. And we pay for a majority, the biggest portion of their money.

And they actually criticized and disagreed with my travel ban at the time I did it. And they were wrong. They've been wrong. about a lot of things. I had a lot of information early, and they didn't want to, they seem to be very China-centric. And we have to look into that, so we're going to look into it. We pay for, give a majority of the money that they get.

And it's much more than the $58 million is a small portion of what they've gotten over the years. Sometimes they get much more than that. Sometimes it's for programs that they're doing, and it's much bigger numbers. And if the programs are good, that's great as far as we're concerned. But we want to look into a World Health Organization because they really are, they called it wrong. They call it wrong.

They really, they missed the call. They could have called it months earlier. They would have known. And they should have known. And they probably did know. So we'll be looking into that very carefully. He knows. And we're going to put a hold on money spent to the WHO.

show, we're going to put a very powerful hold on it, and we're going to see. It's a great thing if it works, but when they call every shot wrong, that's no good. Look, here's the thing about him. I've got to say this. I've never been a Trump fan. You know this from day one. I've had a problem with this personality. I think he was going to win.

All that stuff. I said, there's no way he's going to win. I was wrong. When Trump is sober and he's when he's sober, when he's talking about issues, I have to say, I think he was spot on about China. I am not mad about the way he's handling this crisis to an extent. I know I'm going to get heat for this. So there are things about the way he's handling this that I appreciate.

Let's put it that way. Yeah. What I really dislike is, I'm not a man who is a Trump supporter either. I think that his behavior and his rhetoric oftentimes does affect our country negatively, especially in the worldview. Yeah, that's my issue. But I find it honestly gross. that there is an utter incapability

for people who are his critics, oftentimes to even acknowledge that he may do something well. I know. I know. And I think that that's kind of really gross and dangerous. And I also think it's dangerous too. Even with this Corona stuff, like he's doing some good and there's some positive that comes out of the things he's doing. And everyone just focuses on the negative. No matter what. Yes. No matter what. It's just the worst of the worst. And that's where what you guys do is focusing on his personality.

and not on his ideas, not on his, he's got very smart people around him. And so in a lot of ways, I think what a lot of the shots he's called have been kind of right. Yep. And so, you know, this is no dummy, this dude. He's not a fucking dummy. And I went back and I listened to interviews with him from 1998 and all that. He's been fucking talking about China. From the jump.

From the jump. And a lot of other things that I'm starting to come. I'm like, you know, yeah, yeah. And I do think, I'm sorry to say this that I'm not saying. that we shouldn't be imposing a lockdown. I don't know enough about this. I'm going to trust the experts, CDC. I do think that there are a lot of Democrats

that are cynical enough to believe if the economy is real shit, we have a chance of getting our guy in there. 100%. I do. And I also do think... Do you hear Bernie dropped out today? Yes. I think the media is very biased. You just found that out, huh? I did, and that is terrible news because...

I don't think I can vote for Bernie. I don't think I can vote for Joe Biden. I don't think I can do it. Oh, fuck, no. He's not... He's been dead in three years. He's also... utterly incapable of speaking. He just has zero. I'm worried he's got some dementia. I'm actually genuinely worried about it.

Hey, do you remember, you might not, I don't know why I do, I think it was because of DC Follies. It was an old kind of puppetron TV show. But do you remember in the mid-80s, Joe Biden ran for president? He dropped out, had to drop out because he got plagiarized.

You cheated on it. Like a lot of shit. Elsas, right? Something. It was a plagiarism scandal. And it wasn't like, they've got it all wrong. wrong. They've got a lot. He's like, fuck,

I'm screwed. I'm out. I'm out. Yeah. And no one brings that up. He was caught for plagiarism. Did you ever see what he was like, and I just want to thank my wife and it's his sister? Yeah. He just, he's just, you know, some of those things are you just making so many species over and over and you're exhausted at the end of the day. You're going to

fuck up and the media loves to catch it. But I don't, he's always been considered in Washington a bit of a blowhard. Right. And there's a type of fucking up too. Like we all, with everything, that have you're a professional MMA fighter, even if you're fucking Kane Velasquez, it is prime,

you make mistakes, but it's the way certain people make mistakes that you go, you go, okay, well, that's what happens. Obama made gaffes, but when Obama was making gaffes, he's like, scratch that, boom, back in it, locked in. He was such a smooth speaker. President Clinton locked in.

Joe Biden is like you're watching his brain break. You can, you know, I think he might just be old. I think he might be suffering from some kind of a glitch. Oh, 100%. There's a glitch. going on up there. Like, dude, you can't be president.

I worry about that. I would have voted for Bernie, man. I really would have. Too much of a socialist. It's not gonna. It's rough. And I think I actually heard you, Brian, bring it up on J.R.E. It's a fact, like, let's, less we forget, the man honeymooned in Moscow. Yeah. I mean, that, you know. I think Bernie, Bernie is a good man. I think Bernie believes what he believes. He's a really good person. I believe he believes. I believe he believes what he says,

and he says what he believes. And I appreciate that. So there's an authenticity to Bernie. I thought, I liked him when I listened to him on J.R.E. I love to honor. My problem with Bernie is just that he is, he speaks in terms of right and wrong and morality. God bless him. God bless him about everybody deserves health care and everything else. The who's going to pay for it is secondary. And I do think he has tremendous faith in a centralized authority, a state government,

federal government, and that that is more efficient than the marketplace. I don't think he's ever lived in a marketplace. Right. I don't think he understands how the marketplace works viscerally. And so for me, as somebody who believes in a decentralization, of authority and who believes in the marketplace for the most part capitalism.

I just don't, I can't have a guy like that. That's a great way to put it. I always looked at Bernie too. I agree that I think he's the most altruistic high level politician we've had where he's saying something, he believes it. It's not up front. He's not thinking about how well it tests

or how this is going to receive. He doesn't give a fuck about what he likes. And the guy's been protesting and standing up for free speech and socialist ideas or more socialist looking ideas for fucking in 50 years. I mean, he walk it like he talk it. I like that about Bernie. But every one of his ideas

always struck me as tweaker ideas where like you'll smoke meth and you're standing for like two days in a row you're like, dude, we could rob a bank. And you're like, yes, yes, that's a great idea. Not sleeping, just crazy tweaking balls.

All we need is a hodopter and an RPG and a fucking Porsche. And you're realistically believing this is a good idea and that it's pull. You can pull his at all. Bernie is like a free college for everyone tomorrow. But he has no plan. It's a loser.

It's a nice. It's like a loser. It's a great idea. My whole thing with where I vote for Bernie is I almost vote for the person more than their beliefs because it's so tough for them to really do anything. So I vote for the person. He's not going to embarrass the United States. You know, for him to the tax laws he wanted to do and all that stuff, that's never going to get

passed. I had. Here's, here's, here's the thing about Trump. That's all that stuff. It's too tough. give Trump some credit. Again, you got to be careful with giving a president too much credit for the massive economy of the U.S. economy, but you do have to say while he was president, if these figures are correct and I've heard them from several different sources,

lowest African American unemployment, lowest Latin unemployment in this country ever, and the economy was gangbusters. Until this came along. So you got to give the guys some credit. Now, let's take, I want you to hear this. I wanted to send this to you. Take a listen to Marco Rubio talking about the real threat that China poses. And don't worry, but if it's a little long, but I think it's worth listening to, it's five minutes. But I want to get your guys take on this. At 10 or 15 years, you won't be watching the U.S. stock market.

You'll be watching the Chinese markets. And they will be determining whether our companies survive. It'll be us. It'll be us on the outside looking in. And then Americans are going to wonder, why do we no longer invent great things? why do we now have to do whatever China wants in the world in order to get the medicines we need to cure my mom or my jazz Alzheimer's? And the answer will be because when they were displacing us,

your policymakers were too busy, arguing with each other and playing dumb, ridiculous games on a regular basis. Meanwhile, China was focused like a laser with a plan and they executed on it. This is not a game. I can think of no more significant issue from the perspective of history than what is happening now. And do not misunderstand me. I do not come here to say that I want to be unnecessarily aggressive with China or that I want there to be a confrontation. China is going to be a rich and a powerful country. And we have no problem with that.

We can't have any problem with that. But there has to be a balance. It cannot be a China that is rich and powerful and in America that is weak. and not prosperous because those imbalances are what create wars those imbalances are what create misery those imbalances are what destabilized the planet that can't be we need to recalibrate this relationship it needs to be rebalanced on the trade side it needs to be protective on our national security side it needs to be equalized and if it is china can still be very successful they're going to invent things

They're going to create jobs. They're going to become more prosperous, and that is fine. We've been doing that for 100 years. Every person in this gallery, sitting in the gallery, every person here in the well of the Senate on the floor, everyone you know has products on them, a phone, a belt, made in another country. The issue is not that other countries make things that we don't. It's not about us dominating everything. It's about balance.

Now watch this. And this is not balanced. This is headed to a dramatic imbalance. And the imbalance used to be they made cheap things and sent it back to us so we had lower prices. That's what's happened for the last 30 years. They made cheaper T-shirts, they assembled the phones cheaper, and they shipped it back to the United States leading to lower prices. That's not the imbalance I'm talking about. The imbalance we're headed to is they control state-of-the-art artificial intelligence.

They control the state-of-the-art quantum computing, which means that nothing can be encrypted anymore. which means there are no such things that secure car was left. The President of the United States one day will not be able to talk to his national security officials anywhere in the world without the Chinese hearing it. Because no matter what encryption you put in, they'll break it with a quantum computer. That's the imbalance I'm talking about. The imbalance I'm talking about is one day we'll have a dispute with China on something on national security somewhere in the world, and they will threaten to cut off our supply of biomedicines. In essence, threaten the lives of Americans not getting medicine unless we cave to their desires.

That's the imbalance I'm talking about. The imbalance I'm talking about is one where they dominate aerospace, where they are the nation that controls satellites and satellite communication. They are the nation that controls 5G. We're headed towards autonomous vehicles. Autonomous vehicles will depend on 5G technology. And China will dominate the world in 5G, and we will depend on it. So we're going to build a fleet of autonomous truck.

and autonomous cars, and none of them will work if the Chinese decide to shut it down because they dominate that field. That's the imbalance I'm talking about. And if this all sounds fantastic, apocalyptic, look it up. Research it.

And I promise you, you will not find a single person versed on this topic that would disagree with what I'm saying. This is the threat that we face. So should we go fight some Chinese people? Well, all I'm saying is that I never took this,

seriously. I love a international trade and everything else. But you know, you're dealing with a communist party that is focused like a laser beam that can do things and that does practice widespread economic espionage, et cetera, and has the intent of dominating the world. I just play, I would play a hardball with China. 100%. Do you, this fucked up? Do you see how violence against Chinese Americans is up? Yeah, that's awful. That's fucking terrible. They used the coronavirus. Now that's terrible. I mean, they did, but we shouldn't fuck about. By the way, when I talk this way, I talk this way, I am not fucking talking about Chinese people, anybody Asian. If you do that, you're a, you're a moron.

I'm talking about the Chinese communist government that keeps their own people down. I'm talking about the fact that a lot of people got rich who are wherever they were in this country because they deal with countries. If you're going to be like holier than now, just know that China, the government has one of the worst human rights records on records to their own people.

Yeah. And we're not talking about the Chinese people as a whole. If you fuck with somebody who's Asian or Chinese because of the coronavirus, you are a dumb dumb. I mean, if you're a moron. If you see him eating bat soup, it's kind of a bat soup. Maybe say, hey. I like a nice warm bat myself. No, I mean, I find it really insulting too when like it's as if you were to insult Chairman Mao that you're insulting Chinese people for being birth.

Or you know what I'm saying? Like no one would say if you were to go down the list of terrible things. that the Nazi party or the third right did. You wouldn't be like, man, you must really dislike German people. You're like, no, I hate that. I hate Nazis, man. I don't like, yeah, I don't like what the Chinese do to their own people. I was there.

I went to Beijing. I fucking saw the amount of security. But it's the same thing as when September 11th happened, Muslim Americans were the violence on Muslim Americans. Yeah. When that's crazy. Because dummies want like, they want all the, their people are the ones that did it. Get them.

When, listen, everyone gets scared. We all do. A lot of us are scared right now. There's a real problem. when really stupid people get scared, bad things happen. That's right. Bad mentality.

That's why I got to be careful with the way, we know, we talk on this podcast, people listen. And again, and I'm glad you brought it up. You're going to start a revolutionist. Yeah,

I'm definitely not trying to. I'm definitely not going bad on. It sounds like I'm China, China, China. I just think it's been an eye-opener for me. Yeah. It's been an eye-opener from it. Well, and also talk to people who have lived in China and come to America.

I do. You will get a very, very sobering kind of take on what it means to be, living underneath the Chinese government. And a lot of Chinese Americans, especially ones who have had a prolonged experience living in China, will agree with Brian.

This is not something about that. I mean, how about, we're doing a movie, and my character has to run down this Chinese guy who is a, me and we're playing cops. I have to run through the old city of Beijing. What movie? This movie I did this summer.

Two girls, one cop. Two girls won't go. We went to China? Yes. And so I have to run down and I have to, I have to apprehend them. And we're doing all this thing and I get wet.

And it's a sort of a silly heist kind of thing. Things happen. A pie gets thrown on my face, all this stuff. Not really, but that's stuff. So I have to capture this Chinese criminal. The Chinese government got wind of the script because you have to present your script to their censors. Yeah.

Right? And number one, by the way, this is after I got retinal scan fingerprints and I had to, They show you a thing that there will be zero, zero criticism of the Chinese government when you are here. And if you do, you will be asked to leave in customs as you're going through customs? It's in customs. Oh, wow. That's pretty fine.

Huge fucking. Huge side. Huge side. And so here's what's even crazier. So in the script, script is written, about to do it, being financed in part by a Chinese company, a woman who did a lot of TV shows there. And I get there and, well, I say, guess, guess, what, we're not shooting that scene. And I go, what do you mean?

He goes, they will not allow an American to be seen, an American agent to be seen on Chinese soil apprehending a Chinese person. So we have to rewrite it for somehow a Chinese person to do it. And so we couldn't figure out how to make that work. So that came out of the script, ladies in general. So I've had some. And then the other crazy thing was I noticed that the woman running this show, one of the woman was like she screamed and all her minions came to listen to her. And I looked at the guy who'd

been there, who was an English guy, had been there forever. He'd been there. He spoke fluent Chinese. And he said, he just looked at me and goes, slavery exists here, my friend. Slavery exists here. I never forgot it, man. It's a very, very hard place. There's a lot of great things about China, I'm sure. Shanghai is supposed to be amazing. There are a lot of great things about China. I don't know shit about China. I can't say anything about China because I spent 10, two weeks, three weeks in Beijing. And you hated it. I want that on record. Not my favorite place. Well, look, but I don't know enough about China. I'm talking about I was there for very, I know, but my experience and what I've fucking terrible. And like a lot of artists have shared that experience. I remember when it was a big deal

when Metallica was finally allowed to play in China. Oh, wow. They had to present their set list. A board had to listen to those songs. And they were told you can't play this song. Like, for instance, Master Puppets. It's about government control and manipulating people. Can't play that. Can't play that here. It's, that's...

I bet even they were like, that shit bangs, but we're gonna have that here. It's a fantastic song, but not playing it here. That's my issue with socialism, too. It's like, I want everybody to be... I don't want poor people to be, you know, hurting for dentistry and all that. Fuck that. I don't want that either.

The problem is that to ensure that, you would have to have, if I come up with a company, I make a lot of money. Because I have a great idea. And someone of Bernie says, I need 85% of your money. Yeah. Because you're making too much. I know.

So that's confiscation by a central authority who's then going to redistribute it. That is socialism. It is. Imagine if there was a fighter. Imagine if there was a fighter who is never forced to kind of be up against the ropes. There's not going to be a lot of dynamic performances from that fighter. You know what I'm saying? And I think that socialism, you know, it's obviously an oversimplified bro way to put it.

But socialism kind of makes it so you're hitting pads instead of in a real fight. And that's one of the reasons why America has been so dominant in a relatively short amount of time this country's been around. America's been so dominant in developing ideas. Because people can make money and they can have a better life if they come out with their own. Look at our friends who are common. Not only wait. Look at Brendan Schaub who starts out and figures out a way. He's a fighter.

He wants to be a comic so desperately. So look at what he did. He comes along. You know, you run the business. he runs his fucking business with with the podcast. This is a fucking guy who comes in. He goes, how do I, I got to get, I got to make money as a comic. Otherwise, he had to make money.

He's like, how the fuck do I do this? How do I get butts in the seat? On the fly. The motherfucker comes up with these ideas. Brendan's the one who came up with the idea of, of, you ever knows how everybody, all, every comic, every comic copies. Have you ever seen how they do graphics? You know graphics on Instagram with the graphic cartoons?

You know who came out with that whole idea? That guy. That guy is, that's, patient zero. And, and you know, merch, can we use a different terminology? No, given what's going on around us. I ate the bat soup. But hold on, hold on.

So whenever it comes up with t-shirts, I remember, I remember it so well. He goes, we're going to sell t-shirts. I was like, I don't know, t-shirts. He goes, yeah, watch, I'm going to design them. But I didn't have money, so I had to ask you for money. Yeah, but I just trusted this motherfucker. Because I watched this fucking guy, and I watched him, I watched, you know what I noticed about this guy?

And I'm getting to a larger point. He had no money when I first met. him. He had no money. He was fucking trying to fight. He was making fucking, you know, nothing. And he showed up. I don't know if you remember this. We went to hang out. He had a BNW M series. He could barely afford. And he had this really nice fucking jacket. He had a blazer. And he was wearing fake glasses the way like LeBron James did. And I went and I looked at him and he looked fantastic. I didn't, I'd never seen an athlete who dressed up like this. And I looked him and I go, I go, that's an expensive jacket. He goes, yeah, man, I only own one of these. But

you know, it's fucking, he goes, I love nice things. I love nice things. It's what I think about. It's what makes me feel good, you know. And I watched this entrepreneur, this young entrepreneur, I watched him turn this business and his own business into a multi-million dollar operation. And that kind of ingenuity,

that then was copied by every fucking comic, including Joe Rogan to an extent, fact. And Joe would admit to this. The marketing aspect of it. I mean, the motherfucker. The motherfucker comes along in every comic, every comic bit his style in New York and in Los Angeles. And so what that did is it made all those comics wealthy. And so we've all seen, and especially me, I remember when Sebastian Manscalco, who makes

$20 million a year, whatever it is, I remember when he was a waiter at the four seasons. He makes $40 million. When he was a waiter at the four seasons for nine years. And the story of this country is people who come up with a fucking idea make a lot of money. and then other people copy that idea and say that might work for me and then it gets saturated and they come up with another idea.

You need creative destruction. You're not going to have creative destruction. Remember the flip camera that went away? Yes. Well, guess why? Because we put it in our phones. If you had a council that had to decide, well, we got to save jobs over there so we can't,

they would never allow creative destruction. You have to allow businesses to go out of business so you can create other businesses. The creative destruction that went into this fucking iPhone that all of us use, including us socialists out there,

is something that could only occur in a society that allows the marketplace to be ruthless for people who can't keep up. Well, to your point, B, what's the last thing Russia did creatively? Exactly. Name the last thing Russia put out where you're like, that's dope, we're gonna use those ideas. Some of the, traditionally, some of the greatest artists

that have ever walked the face of the earth when it comes to music, when it comes to dance, when it comes to painting, when it comes to writing, certainly. And it all just ended, it all just ended around like the turn of the 19th century. Russia just put a, fucking wet towel. Oh, but before then, they, they

well, do you have Dostaski? You had Tolstoy. You had, I mean, it's a Chikovsky. It's all classic. Yeah. Beriznikov. I mean, it goes, the list goes on and on of like, the amazing Soviet art.

And then it just ended, you know, because they, you can't. Because you couldn't tell the government, you couldn't tell your own rules. Go fuck yourself. You couldn't have any kind of, so much of art is disturbing. It's artists who are, look at the Vietnam War.

You know, this is where I, where I start to look at myself. If you look at the music that came out of the view and wanted, it was all protest music. Hey, what's that sound? Something that's going. All that stuff was like, there's something wrong with, you know, Ohio fucking Neil Young. It's about the shootings at Kent. This was a finger at, you know, and Nixon was paranoid of the hippies. He was paranoid of the artistic establishment.

Oh, yeah. Thank God. Thank God. And so you need irreverence. You need a distrust of your central government. More importantly, you need a populace that's willing to give the middle finger to our rulers. And to, large, to my point, in a socialist country, you would be penalized for coming up with all those ideas. Because they would take 85% of all the money you've made that you've worked so hard for you.

You didn't come from a lot of money. You didn't have money. When I knew you, you had no money. You just wouldn't get, also, you wouldn't develop to the extent. It wouldn't develop to the extent. Yeah, because there would have had the incentive, man. never have had that inspiration because you knew, man, when you're fighting here ended, like, you were going to fucking drown.

Yeah. Or else, I must take deep and do something. And there's something incredibly cruel about that. There's something incredibly beautiful about that. And that's what our country's been built on. At the same time, I do, I do identify with someone like Bernie Sanders at the left who says, wait, some people fall through the cracks, man. There are people that just can't keep up.

There are people that just don't have the skills. And we don't want to see them on the street more. And that is where the left comes. in. That is where you got to go, fuck, man, maybe we do need government programs. There's always, there has to be a middle. There's a thing. That's, it's, it's got to be a middle.

It's something that I've really thought about, and it's, it applies. I mean, I kind of developed this idea, really looking at fitness, and taking all these people's questions over and over again via the internet. But the reality is, the human experience, we can never say, never, and we can never say always. Brian and I can, and we can sit here and wax poetic about how amazing capitalism is and the free market and the idea of sink or swim. It is. There's exceptions. It's not a uniform. And to your point, look, I think it was Martin Luther King who said that America was built on the

idea of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. There's plenty of people in this country. You don't have boots. That's right, dude. And there's people who, like, that was the biggest message from the Joker that I wanted people to take away. And they just, they either said, a masterpiece or it's in cells being promoted and, no, one of the important messages about the Joker is that there's a lot of people in this country who were fucked at birth and have been abused and have been completely ostracized from all of the normal social circles. You're right, dude. And you can't expect that, that guy or that gal to make something of themselves in this country when they're just completely fucked. Yeah, they're not in the same race. Or even a soldier who gets injured and

had to take, who was prescribed opiates. And that was addicted. You got to have compassion. Yeah, I had, I was put in my place by an economist who. I was like, I'm a capital. Silly. Yeah, it was, I was talking about, I'm a capitalist. And, you know, and I was talking about Adam Smith, the invisible hand. And, you know, I mean, Adam Smith is the father of capitalism, a father of my husband. And she said, she goes, it was so great. She looks at me.

She goes, I understand. You do know that Adam Smith wrote that book when he was living with his mom, right? I went, I go, I go. Did you, I don't know if he wrote, I don't know if you know that. But while he was writing, I don't know if he wrote, a honey, your laundry's folded. dinner's ready. Dude, it fucked me up. I was like,

that's good, though. Oh, it's great. She goes, what is that worth? What's that worth? Because he was living, he was living in a bit of a socialist environment, wasn't he?

Because he had his mother to take care of it. That's hilarious. Some people don't have a mother. I was like, a motherfucker, man. Mike, do you have any of your nicotine patches on you? I brought the big boys.

I was, I think we should make, force Brian to take one. I've been drinking. Today? I've been shaving my head, drinking. I do stuff.

You been drinking? If there was whiskey here, have it. If there was cocaine in my house, I would do it. Oh, these are the vaults? Big boys. But what power are these? Those are considered the extra strong. That's what the sweet is. You don't fuck around. I'm only, if I do it, I'm doing a five milligram patch. I'm not doing that. Brian should try my, this would knock Brian's fucking face. It would make him sick. And I would think that would be fantastic viewing.

What are just put this in my mouth? Just one. Yeah, those are babies. That's not like I can do anything. While you guys load up on nicotine, an excellent drug. Let me thank you, honestly. You smell so hard. Let me thank you because I don't know what the overall response was, but I got so many amazing, like really beautiful messages about the last time you guys had me on. And let me thank the listeners too, because so many people reached out and talked about how maybe I struck a chord with them when it talked about addiction and talked about things like that and how they appreciated me talking to openly. and in turn

that helps me and my recovery a million fold and it's just like it's really such a gift so let me thank you guys and thank you're one of my favorite families you're awesome we're talking about gas and

our friends are pussies and we're like I don't want to say their name it should be no yeah we should well Delia's terrified to leave the house and so so Saso terrified to leave the house Rapport terrified to leave the house He is too? What a bitch

all the loud mouths Bunch of bitches Bunts of bitch And I go, dude, and you know this, Mike's one of my favorite people. I go, Mike's local, dude, and he's so good with us. Yeah, you are. You really are. We'd have you on here every week.

Thank you, guys. It means a lot. And, of course, I mean, it's huge for me, like, online presence. I got thousands and thousands of more views on my, all my stuff and a lot more downloads to my podcast. So, so thank you. You're a muscular, you're a muscular man with compassion. You know, my buddy. Mike can talk, though.

Like, you know how to, like, you know, we have comics in here, but they're certain guys. And talk. But there's something really kind of healing about it. I love Mike. Like there's something that makes me relax around Mike. My buddy, you know, I won't say his name. My buddy, I got in trouble. We're at dinner, very small dinner, four people.

Recently? Five people. Yeah. Everybody sitting. Everybody sitting there. And I go, no, no, no. It was at a home. Okay.

Outside, by the way, on a roof. So there's good ventilation. And we were being COVID smart. I'm just saying. I'm waiting for this to hit. That's such a baby one? is. You're fine. So, um, the thing he gave me would, it's just kind of sweet. Yeah, isn't it nice? Yeah. And burning my throat. It's spicy, right? It's spicy. So, um, so, uh, fuck, what was I,

what was I, what was I saying? Oh, yeah, yeah. So, so, so my buddy says, dude, I went to a healer. Uh, the guy is, and he put his hands on my body and I was crying so hard. And I fucking fainted. A friend of ours. Yeah. And I love him. And he's a man. And I go. Is he coming?

And I can't help it. Is he coming? I won't say any more than that. I go, I just go like this. I go, can't help myself. And I go, hey, you're pussy, all right? Did everybody laugh or no? No, because everybody was into it.

Everybody was like, so what else happened? Yeah. And then I'm like, I've just met a lot of people like this. And I go, let me guess. Did he have a chest gem? Was he wearing sandals? And then the other person's friend was like, In fact, yes, but now he's 65 and I'm like, uh-huh.

And I've just been in L.A. a lot, so I was basically calling him a fucking fraud. I got, and the person that was telling me about it. We'll edit their name out. Turned at me and just went, turned at me and just went, dude, I don't know what fuck who you've met. I'm telling you right now, this shit fucking works, okay? And I cried, so don't fuck. And he came at me. And then I realized I said, you know what happened, dude?

I know who it is. You know what happened? I go, you had a man, a big man, who is an athletic, big strong man, put his hands on your chest. And he was there to listen to you and to feel what you were going through. And you've never had a man. Yeah, that's why it connected. Never had a dad. Never had a man.

Think about this. Most of us haven't. Does his name rhyme with bleep? You got to edit that out. Yeah. Yes. Yes. 100%.

Yeah. And, but the thing is, um... You just got it? I got to say. Oh, you can swallow it. You're fine. So the thing is... That's what she said.

What I said is I go, dude, and I thought about this. And any man that would put his hands on your body in a non-gay way and say, talk to me. Talk to me. Right. That's okay. That's powerful. Dude, because all of us, all of us are so competitive with each other. None of us, like, I would never put my hands on you.

Yeah, for you and I, we're, we're all. always fucking with each other, but all our friends, we're always fucking with each other. It's competition. We live in a world where other men are other guys you're doing jiu-jits with, boxing with, or arguing with, or try to get your point across. Yeah, it catches you off guard. It's like, Joey Diaz called me, though. He texts me, he goes, are you good?

And I'm like, I'm great, man. And then he texts, he goes, I want to talk to you. I'm like, I wonder what's wrong with Joey. He's literally just calling to check in on me. And I thought something, I'm like, and I was like, yeah, what's up, dude? He's like, see, how are you doing, Brendan Chob? I'm like, I'm good, man. He's like, well, what do you up to?

I tell him, he's like, okay, he's going through all the stuff. I'm like, what's the catch here? What do you need, Joey? He's like, nothing. I need nothing, man. You got to understand. He's like, I love you. I'm like, not only.

All right. Not only do so many of us suffer from not having that type of male relationship, but there's a, it's almost like a cultural American thing, the idea of being completely self-reliant. Yeah. For men is, you know, I had a Marine and this man had seen battle. And we were having a discussion. And he was opening up to me about certain things that he was dealing with, and he was having a lot of problems with addiction as a lot of guys who come back for more do.

Sure. And I said, dude, you need to go to a meeting or at least you need a professional, mental health professional, to talk to because this is serious. And you're, you know, this can go a lot farther south if we let this go out of control. He said, you've got to understand for me, a man who has been in the Marine Corps for a long time and seen battle. the idea of me talking about my feelings. It's like asking me to fly. Yeah, I know.

It doesn't. And it hit me so hard because I didn't really. Not only was this guy who was a proud American who grew up with in this kind of cowboy ethic of don't, you know, bear your feelings, but also he then became a soldier so he was further encouraged to learn how to divorce himself from emotion. It makes you a terrible soldier to be emotional

to let that affect your thinking, to cloud your, So take him out of the world of the world of combat and now he's a guy who has created has found a lot of value in blocking his emotion. And that doesn't really help much in the real world. But you don't block your emotions, right? Because your Latin side are they're very open and loving, right? Yeah, it's really weird. Super stoic to the world around you.

But within the family circle? Overly fucking can't shut your mouth. to people that you let in. To your close friends and your family, family is a huge thing. Even I have, this weird thing happened to me when I was like 19 or 20 where I was running with really bad people

who I was buying coke from in, in L.A. And some shit went wrong. And my friend of mine, the same guy who, the cat issue happened. He was with, and he loaned money to this one of these guys who used to get his Coke. and the guy took off and we never talked to him again.

As drug dealers do. And I had cousins, like, I honestly, I don't, I don't know these guys that well. We've seen each other a couple times at birthday parties and funerals over, over, I was probably 19 of the time. Over my entire 19 years, I'd probably seen them five times. Still on their team. These guys were ready to go find that man and kill him. Yeah, isn't it interesting?

Yeah, like my group. Family bonds are so tight. Like, don't hear me and my brother are so close. She's my best friend. I'm close with my family. But we never really talked like that at all. I think my brother's only told me he's loved me maybe twice. Right.

After I lost fights. Other than that, never. It's just awkward. It's just not our thing. Yeah. It's just not our thing. But then my girl's family who, she's born raised in Guala Harra, Mexico,

like she talked to friends that she grew up, you know, that she didn't talk, you know, like she moved from Mexico when she was nine, but she still talks to those people. She's like, you don't talk to anyone from high school or your childhood.

I'm like, no no why would I right yeah or like her family they're like they're like they're like check in on me like what do you like what do you like this that's how you grew up I grew up I grew up breaking bonds a lot I'm right that's not like breaking me it's just like that was that phase in life yeah and then I'm over here now man so like my my intentions all my energy intentions over here man yeah but sometimes not that I don't still love you but it's just if you need something call me but I'm not going to check in with you well but we're always moving forward all of us. We're always kind of

you know, trying to get somewhere. And sometimes somebody will stop you. And if it's a man, like I was in couples therapy and I had a, the therapist was this wonderful guy. He was one of those guys who just really listened to you. Like my joke is he sounded like he was talking

to a nervous horse. And he, and he, you know, he's just, yeah, and finally he stopped to me and he goes, hold it. Hey, do you know what a miracle you are? And I went, I got a little emotional. I was like, oh,

me, and he goes, you went through a lot and you've not getting yourself any credit for getting through it with colors. And I was like, hey man, this is fucking,

this is not making me feel good. Don't make me sing. I had an acting teacher. And when I was 24, I don't know how old I was. And he goes, I'm in a fucking class full of girls. Like hot girls.

I'm a young dude. You know how messed up I am about emotion to begin with? And also how I got a macho complex and all that shit. And the guy says to me, he goes, he's talking to me, says, can I ask you a question? I go, yeah? And he goes, how come you never talk about your father? Why is he never in any of your work?

I was like, oh, oh, you know? They can hit you a shit. Not a lot of fathers. Yeah, shit. I talk about animals. A lot of horses and other guy's bodies, but never your dad. Dude's bodies, but people can stop you. And then he goes like this.

You know what he did? I forgot this. He goes, he goes, because I used to go in the dance studio, I would go practice Taekwondo. Yeah. I was still trying to fight. So he goes like this. He goes, and what is all this? Hi, yeah, yeah.

Oh. Oh, no. And I went, I went, I went, you know, and he goes, it's armor, isn't it? When are you going to take your armor off? because it doesn't work for you. Oof. And then he made me stand there. And he goes, can you stand still?

In front of everybody, I go, huh? He goes, stand up. Take your shoes off. Put your hands by your side. Now just look at me for a second. And I was like, this is, when somebody makes you stop and do that, just that, it's very fucking disconcerting. And it got me, I was embarrassed.

You got your attention. and emotional. And then they start asking you questions about how you grew up. I feel like Dr. Drew, he grew up pretty normal, right? He seems to have his shit together. He grew up very normal, but he grew up with academic. His father was a physician, a doctor, a very successful one. He grew up with a Eastern European Jewish kind of very high standards, very high demanding kind of type A world.

And he doesn't talk, certainly doesn't talk negatively about his relationship with his parents. but he has a longing for real softy type of love, just lovy-dovey stuff. He's super, like, caring and love and like, he's a doctor. Drew doesn't make sense. When you were like, can I share your number of Dr. Drew? I'm like, yeah, of course, man.

He calls me like, Brian, I haven't seen him forever, man. I miss you. I'm like, what? Yeah. He's a misunderstood guy, and it's hard for me to sit back and watch because Drew does a lot of things in the media that I don't necessarily agree with. I wasn't a big fan of celebrity rehab.

I didn't think that was a good idea. I think it served a lot of great purpose. But for me, I was like, I wouldn't want that. He really had this idea to help him. Of presenting the world with real recovery. Like, he wanted people to see it. And heroes and idols and seeing how they are also struggling. And struggling.

And I get that. And I get that. And I, you know, in the end, it probably was a good thing. But my point being is that I don't, I'm not sit around sucking Drew's cock on everything that he does. We have disagreements. But I really, it really hurts me when I see people online. talk about Drew and say, oh, you know, fake doctor, he's a sham, he's a fucking hack that's all

about attention because I mean this. This is not hyperbole. I've never met someone who isn't an addict themselves who cares so sincerely about people dealing with the disease of addiction. He is, he is, he loses sleep trying to figure out how to get the, the, the disease to be better dealt with. But those haters, you go, not a real doctor or he's full of shit, he's a Hollywood guy, but what else are you going to to do. That's the only angle they can take. What else are those losers going to go

for? Yeah. Well, you don't help anybody. That's not true. Well, you're not a real doctor. What are you talking about? Yeah, he is. He's a practicing doctor for 30 years in Pasadena. What are you talking about? Yeah. That's the only angle they can really, you know? Yeah. Exactly. I mean, that's

the only place. But also, like, does that criticism have to exist? I mean, there's a... It does. It does. It does because that's the That's the world of the internet. But it should, my point is, is like, everyone should be subjected to constructive criticism. Yes, yes. As comics, you guys know that maybe you're at the center, at the highest level of the need to have real objective criticism.

You guys need it to succeed. There's a big, fucking massive chasm between constructive criticism and people just being assholes to compensate for how they feel inside. I mean, there's a big difference. I've gotten plenty of tweets where people are like, dude, you need to level out your, you're screaming into the microphone. It really distorts. It doesn't see it.

And I think you're talking a little bit too much about yourself when you're dealing with this. And I go, thank you. Yeah, that's constructive. I think some criticism, though, what I think a lot of criticism comes from is that you know you're doing your job sometimes when you're speaking.

If you get people who hate on you, because you might very well be hitting a cord. You're triggering something. They don't want to face. And the way they face it is by lashing out. Yes. But any time I see any hate, again, I barely see any of I have cat deal with most of it. It's their own, it's not a Brendan problem.

It's them. They're unhappy in their situation and they see, you're following me and you see somebody flourishing and it's triggering something in you. So I don't look at it like, it doesn't make me feel bad. I feel bad for them. But there's 99% of the time like, ah, dude. It's important, too, though, to kind of filter. route, I would say 90-something percent of it is that, is like people who are inadequate.

Look, by the way, if the internet was around, like the real internet was around when I was a teenager, I would be that kid. I would see guys who, I would see, because I felt so insecure about myself. I was so insecure. I would never, ever, ever, it's more subtle. I would never reach out to somebody who I watched on TV or if the internet exists when I was a kid or an athlete, like, oh, you, I would just, you suck. As soon as you do that, dude, you're out.

of the race, the race of being successful, the race of making anything of yourself, you're out. That's what you criticize you can't become. Yeah, you just, because the guys you look up to would never do that. They wouldn't. Anybody you watch on TV would never do that. Sometimes you're criticizing somebody because they're just by their

presence, they are an affront to how you grew up in the things you hold sacred. Not an example. Watching this Ken Burns documentary and everything Ken Burns has ever done, baseball, jazz, watch it all, please. He's genius. In Vietnam and his series of Vietnam and his series of Vietnam. His Vietnam is just kidding.

His series on Vietnam is fucking incredible. And I had a really interesting. He's a genius. He is the greatest documentary maker of all time, bar none. There's no one who comes close. No one who comes close to this motherfucker. That's a wig though, yeah? Probably. I was going to say, Brandon can help him with his.

But he is amazing. Talk about microphone. He's on the Civil War. Did you see Civil War, Baseball, Jazz, Vietnam? Please watch. Are these all different documentaries? Yeah, dude, but they're serious. You'll learn so much.

You'll learn so much. Ken Burns. He's just incredible. Jazz, the Dust Bowl, all of it. All of it's incredible. Oh, no, I haven't seen any of it. Oh, dude. The Dust Bowl.

New York, please watch New York, Brendan. Because if you want to learn about the history of this country in a beautiful way, and the Civil War and baseball. Prohibition. I'd be down for the Prohibition. And jazz, jazz and race relationships and the strange dance that whites and blacks have been doing in this country from day one. It's such a fucking beautiful thing. But he, I had a really interesting, I don't know where it came from, but I was watching.

I was watching, I was watching Vietnam. and if you looked at the people that were protesting of the Vietnam War they were hippies. They had long hair. They were wearing flowers in their hair.

They were dirty. They were wearing sandals. Then if you look at the people that were saying with us or against us, they were like, they were clean cut and they were like,

fuck that. Let's rid the world of communism and they were pro-Vietnam. If you look at them, they were, the equivalent of what all American people looked like. My visceral reaction,

and by the way, the hippies back then were right, The liberals, quote unquote, the left-wingerers, they were right. With Vietnam? And I would have, I can tell you, if I had lived back then, I would have been on the side of the pro-Vietnam guys because they were pro-American. I would have protested.

What I'm saying is that I wouldn't have been smart. I know me. I would have had an emotional visceral reaction to be with America first guys and not with the hippies. And I don't even know where that comes from. But I think it comes from growing up with my father who told me if you have long hair and a beard, you're pro-Soviet or something.

Right. You know what I mean? So I have irrational prejudices in my brain at 53 that I've had to confront. We all do. We can't deny that. I think it's, I had a really strange view of the military and, and I grew up in a world that was very, we were talking about how no one really opened up to us as kids. I know that I grew up in a world where my dad was,

he encouraged us to kind of deal with shit emotionally on your own. We don't really need to talk about that. That's not how you do things. My father was a career military guy until he transferred out into the private sector, but he was working at the Pentagon. He had the highest levels of military clearance besides, you know, maybe Joint Chief of Staff and the President things. And he was a very high-ranking military, Air Force Intelligence,

and was working at the Pentagon during the Vietnam War. And the only time my dad's ever really gotten like super, emotional. He was talking about how he was this 20, you know, one-year-old guy, and he would have to take off his military uniform to leave the Pentagon because if you walked into Washington, D.C., wearing military, you were spit on. And people would throw things out of you. And he said, so my left brain can analyze and say that that was a terrible idea and that thousands and thousands of young American men lost their lives for something they should. For what, yeah.

The Vietnam, it was a disaster. Disaster. But at the same time, it was something that I came, it was such a pivotal point in my life. And I had a community of other men that we were literally living and dying for this one cause. Yep. And then to have other people of this, your same country shun you for it. Anti-American. It was so, it was such conflicted, you know.

Friendship are ending arguments. I actually never talked about this, but friendship-ending arguments about Iraq when we invaded Iraq. And I was defending the invasion of Iraq because I said that we live in a world now where if you have a guy like Saddam Hussein who hijacks a fucking country in their military, they can accidentally on purpose put a weapon of mass destruction in the hands of someone like Al-Qaeda and you'd have a mushroom cloud over fucking Europe. And I think we have to send a very clear signal to every country in the world that if you think there's any profit in that, it'll be the end of your country. And I was defending the invasion of Iraq. 20 years later, you're wrong. I was fucking wrong.

And I was wrong. And I realized I was wrong 10 years before that. And I was realized the friendships that I kind of ended because of my arguments, because I was not very diplomatic and I was an asshole, because I was arguing for emotion. Those people were right. You know, so much of the shit is that. They were right because if you talk to someone who was in that war in Iraq,

they were saying they should have left Saddam Hussein. because when they went in there, which it wasn't our business, when they went in there, because supposedly they had weapons of mass destruction, but we didn't have any proof. We went in there and fucked all that

equilibrium, the whole economy up. We just, it made it 10 times. We tried to restructure the Middle East. That was a great arrogance, great hubris. And yeah, and you look back on the end of you go,

all that shit. And sanctions apparently were working, this is all hindsight, but there were very smart people at the time who were saying, this is a bad idea, like my mother. And me or my father,

ganging up on my mother, my five-foot-two-inch mother. And my mother said, you guys are a bunch of cowboys, Rambo assholes have learned nothing about history. And you hit her. And then we struck her. We struck her. We struck her. We struck her.

And we made her do drugs. And now she's strung out. Make me dinner. Don't look at me. Hey, woman. That's literally what we were like, though. Okay, women. Dude, I don't have very, just thinking of war.

I don't know what made me think of this because we were talking about. Because we were talking about war. There you got. CT's real, dude. The, the few memories. I have my grandpa, he fought in World War II, and me and my brother would, we'd stay at my grandma and grandpa's house, and he was a Marine, and he was a, he was a captain of a, uh, uh, battalion, is what we call it?

Yeah, battalion. And he was, uh, he was the guy in charge of, uh, tanks, but he's the captain. And, um, me and my brother, we used to fight all the time, all over everything. And me and him got a nasty fight. I was probably like six. My brother's eight nasty fight. I was, busted lip. My brother's vicious.

There's blood all over his. carpet and he had to break it up because we're playing checkers and he broke it up and I remember I was I was alarmed at how he was so upset and it's obviously PTSD because it triggered him he's like you think I fought in fucking World War II for this shit for you two to fight like this then he goes on about the story how when he was 19 in charge of these men they were in Germany and he was Korea or was it Vietnam World War II World War II and he and he had to kill a Nazi with a knife. And he went on this long story.

I'm like seven or I'm like, what? Yeah. But I just remember giving us details of him killing this other Nazi with a knife. We're like, what the fuck, dude? We never fought again in front of it. That's a great knife murder story, grandpa. Can I go watch? Well, the difference in your grandfather and me is I would have been bragging about killing

a Nazi with a knife. The guy came at me. I ducked. No, he, so he killed this guy and then I just, you know, they went through his, uh, his pockets. you know, he had a picture of his wife and kid. Was he British? Who? Your grandfather?

No. Okay. American. He opened up the, he saw his walk with a picture of wife and kids. And he went back years later to the wife and kid to apologize. Wow. He had horrible, horrible resentment from it. And then he also had this weird thing against the military because he got shot with

machine gun in his leg, so he had to get out. But when he was, he had a bunch of money, like a bunch of money. and the the when he was getting dragged away to get on the ambulance whatever the fuck they do in the war they stole his money

American stole his money other troops stole his money yeah so he had like this weird they were like he's gonna die let's give me your watch

your money yeah but he was that money you saved that money for my grandma he was gonna send it back home by mayor he was so upset

about that to this sticky fingers yeah war is not something it's a far human brain is supposed to experience

no really should be And, you know, it's, it, it, and then how we can kind of gloss over the fact that, um, these men are broken and they come back to a country after doing something that should put them at the top of the food chain. Yeah. Which makes them literally the most important people to our society, the people who voluntarily go overseas to engage in combat to keep us safe.

Um, they come back to a country and a, and a system that makes, you know, makes it almost impossible for them to function in a healthy fashion. It's so fucked up. Well, Vietnam was a draft, so they didn't have a choice. No, no, no. I'm talking about currently, but you're right. There's a, there's a real, real distinct difference because I volunteered to be a driver at the VA and Santa Monica, or Westwood Santa Monica, kind of the border there, there's a VA.

And I, for a while, maybe decade or so ago, I would drive around vets. They need to go to certain A-A meetings or doctor's appointments, whatever it may be. And so they have volunteers to do it. So I would do that. No ifs and or buts, there's a big difference between veterans of Vietnam and any other living veterans of any other war. They're exponentially more fucked up. Well, in this documentary with Ken Burns, they said, when you were a military guy, one was a Marine, and the other was an army guy. And they'd known each other for, you know, five years or something.

And neither one of them had ever even, either one of them knew, even knew that they had both served in Vietnam. you didn't talk about it. So after Vietnam and people just... Is there ashamed of it? Nobody talked about it. It just wasn't brought up at dinner or in polite company. That's according to the documentary where it was just such a...

Nobody wanted to get into it. It was a little bit like how nobody talks about Trump or... Don't bring Trump up at a party because you're going to have people who go, don't even fuck it. You know, then people are, I don't think he's so bad. And it's going to cause a major problem. Well, it's actually, it's actually callous of us civilians to think. to think that.

I mean, you would never expect anyone to want to talk openly about sexual abuse. You would never expect someone to want to talk about physical abuse

or anything traumatic. And we expect someone to go through something just disproportionately traumatic. And then, hey, but I do. Detail that for me.

Would you please just know? But then also come back, come back to the society and just do, just get a regular job. They're like, what? But my skill sets

to track down people and complete the Like my, what do you fuck me, man. Yeah, but the way to talk about things now, I think is this. Like, it don't bring up liberal, conservative, socialist, Democrat, capitalist. I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. I don't want to talk about your liberal conservative.

What I want to do is this. We have a problem. There's a problem. Let's say it's gun shootings or whatever it might be. Put it on the table. I got an idea. I got some ideas. Let me give you my ideas of how to fix that.

Now, if you have a problem with those. ideas, don't attack me. Don't tell me I'm an idiot. Right. This is just ideas that were given to me too. They just seem to make sense to me instinctually, intellectually, intellectually. Can you, if you have a problem, instead of calling me a liberal or a conservative piece of shit, can you beat my idea

that I put on the table with a better idea? So let's just match ideas and not be attached to our ideas. Me and Rogan were talking about how important that is. He and I had to come to that, because we were not like that when we were young men. But as you get older, you start to go, I'm not here to talk about how high taxes

should be. I'm here to rather say, what is an acceptable percentage that you are willing to pay out to someone else? To you. And why? And that's, yeah, do you think that's going to actually make it a better world overall because there are some considerations? Let's talk that way and not be too attached to our ideas and not attack the person. That's, our political discourse is so fucking bad. And I'm guilty of it too. Bernie's a socialist and I just dismiss it. Well, that's not true. He's a little more complicated than that. He's got some ideas. And not to, you're right. I mean, to attach people's character to their ideas and opinions is, uh, it's really, it's really sad to do that. I mean, also, I think we're also encouraged to do it with the internet now, with social media and stuff. But people feel this need to have incredibly hard and cemented ideas and opinions on everything. And the reality is, is like, there's not that much in the world that we are capable of authentically having those opinions on. My point being is like when I, you know, two years ago when you saw, a lot of like the rise of black lives matter.

There's a lot of people who are like, that's, that's wrong. You know, all lives matter, blah, blah, blah. I was like, well, you really don't have the experience of being a black American. You don't have that. And when the women's march was going around, I would come before four minutes. I was like, wait, maybe that's not a, and I was like, you know, I'm not a woman. I've never spent one day as a woman. I'm in Philadelphia and these women are fucking, you remember we got caught in the march?

Yeah. Was that Portland? Yeah. And I'm in Philly and these women are marched. And they just spontaneously in Philly to just start marching. And some of them are having like. You know, they got these, like, these loose shirts on. And this fucking dude just goes, blah, blah, blah,

show us your tits. I was, I was fucking cat. Show us your tits. Some old back yet. It was just, yeah, they just fucking, you know, Philly fucking dudes, just Philly bro. Ah, shut up. Blah, blah, blah, show us your tits. I was fucking died.

Girls were like, look you. Like, oh, God, the American discourse. Let's do current events. Very happy with how straight. I got to take a piss on. Very happy. Can we take a forearm break? Did you work out this morning?

I did. I put up a little bit, actually. Did you go to, uh... It's got shoulders for days. Deuses? No, I did. There's no access to gyms around here. So I,

I did a little backyard action I've been doing... You're trapped out of your mind. Your delts couldn't be more swollen. While Brian feels you up. Okay. Now, when after this, we're going to talk a little bit about,

now I don't have your... I'm not a mesomorph like you. Yes. We're going to, I've been lifting. I'm going to take... Hold on. Let me show you what I'm working with. Sick.

It's nothing. It's nothing, unfortunately. No, you're actually in really good shape. I'm a serious boxing and I'm so sore. I get skinnier. I like you, but I'm 53. Yeah, you know, you're in great shape, dude. You're in great shape. For a natural 53-year-old, you're in like upper tier, dude.

Oh. And I shave my, I shave my fuck. Hey, people can talk shit all they want. Most people, the overwhelming majority of guys who ever walked face of the earth would cut off a limb to look like. that at 53. I need to be thicker and I never will be. That's just, that's not true. You have a friend that lives near me now named Mr. Frank Grillo,

who's your age and it can show you exactly how to do that. Frank has always been muscular as fuck. Frank can walk by, Frank Grillo can walk, he can walk by a weight ever since he was a kid. Now, he's older now and he might be doing, I don't know, but when he was younger, that dude naturally was just super muscular. He can put on muscle like crazy. I mean, I'm talking about when he was 20, he. when he was 20.

He, pictures of him when he, bring up young Frank Grillo. He has great genetics, but honestly, though,

having now met him for the first time, yeah. He must train and eat perfectly. You have no idea. He must be so disciplined because he is.

He's so disciplined. It's weird. It's very easy. Honestly, young Frank Gras. I don't want to say easy. He was always like, but it's not all that hard

to be muscular, to gain muscle. Go, go to the, when he was Calvin Klein model. Go up there. That's really. That was him when he was in his 20th.

Holy man. Look at that dime piece. I remember I met him back then. That was when he was every girl and gay man in the world, in the world liked him. He was a legit Calvin Clown model and on the Gracie, on Hicks and Gracie's competition team. Obsessed with boxing, obsessed with Jiu-Too.

There's young Frank Grilla right there. He had very good genetics. He has very good genetics. It's very good genetics, but also here's the thing. Getting bigger or more muscular and gaining muscular weight, not all that difficult. You just lift heavy, you know, linear progression, eat more.

getting leaner. Not all that difficult, but... It's the food for me, man. But doing both, maintaining that is so hard. It is so hard.

And he must eat... Frank knows that's a gay picture, yeah? Yes. I made fun of him. Wait till you see his movie coming out boss level. Wait till you see that fucking movie. My moitai coach...

Sassau's in it, yeah? My moitai coach, the great coach of Crew Vic, he... Get him off. Or texting me immediately after our last episode. And he's a big T-fat K fan. And he said,

Mario Lopez would beat the shit out of Frank Rillo. And I said, I said, wait, you wait one second. No disrespect. There needs to be a celebrity death match. Right now, especially. If they were to meet, you know, when... Frank is, I'm putting all my money on Frank.

And I know Mario Lopez can box. Yeah. I'm putting all my money. Yeah, I'm putting all my money on. You know what, Frank's just tougher. He's just tough. That's probably true. Frank's tough.

He's just... And he knows boxing. And he fought... I know for a fact when he was younger, he fought every weekend. And also Frank, if you broke his nose,

he won't give a fuck. You break Mario Lopez's nose? What do you think is going to happen? No, you're right. I mean, you tell your instructor... I see him wearing the bitch bar. Frank boxes every day with three guys.

Chris Van Herden, a high-level boxer, fought Earl Spence. He fights Brian Valeria. He's not... Hold on. With Brian Valeria. Let's go easy on the term fight.

No, no, but I'm saying he does spar And he does train. He works out with them. I've seen him spar. He's not going blow for a blow with me. No, no, no. You never say an actor is going blow for a boy with a guy like Chris Van Eyre. You'll take it easy.

Come on. Of course. Especially with your hair cut. Of course you do. But really studies the art of box. He's obsessed with it. I've seen the guy worked out. Even when I was in, when I was fighting, he'd be in there.

I'm telling you. He'd outwork me. Yeah. And he was, and he spent a, he was obsessed with Jitsu. And then he's also crazy. And he's crazy. I was just say he's like a real. tough guy. He's a real tough guy.

You know, like I make fun of Hollywood for being tough guys. Frank's tough guy. He'll fight you. You'll fight you right now. So we were having this conversation on the last Jason Ellis show. Who wins a celebrity fight if it goes down old school UFC style, no weight classes. You fight, you continue going on like a bracket. Okay, tournament style, multiple fights in a night. If Joe counts, he wins, right? Rogan. Against who?

Celebrities. Celebrity, the world of celebrities? All celebrities? Black belt and you just legit black belt, right? He kicked like a fucking mule. He's in shape. And he's all, I mean, I don't know the other celebrities. Yeah.

Well, okay, we got to throw in Frank. I mean, I'm just thinking of people who could even... Joe, Joe would time and knots. Frank doesn't know.

That's the thing. It's like, I'm just thinking about the reality of a real M. M.MA fight where, sure, if it's just going to

stand back and exchange blows, there's one. But when it goes to the ground, Joe's the best, by far the best celebrity grappler. Like... For sure. But also, Joe can kick.

fucking like crazy stand-up's good too yeah he can back kick roundhouse those spinning kicks you take one of those of the sternum it's you're done I don't know I don't have to know the other celebrities

because yeah somebody has to do with who can take a punch too you can kick and punch when you get caught the right hand toss uh Chris Hemsworth in there I saw him box I was a big boy really oh he's a big boy too I will say though

it's your size right bigger than me I will say though tolerant leaner That's a big part. Better looking. No one can throw kicks, period. That isn't a professional fighter. Chris Hemsworth, his Muaytai, it looked okay.

Like, you've seen his boxing in person. Yeah. And I walked in the gym, I saw his big ass. I didn't register that it was Thor. And I went, I thought it was maybe a new sparring partner for me. And I was like, who the fuck's out in the ring back there? Like, that's Thor, man. I was like, that's Chris Hemsworth?

He's a cool guy. Let's see him box. Let me tell you how I know. Has he ever sparred or fought though, Brennan? I don't know. He's Thor. so I'm not worried about it. I think it was the outdoor one, Chin.

Like, his, his throwing a kick's different. See, that's not bad. It's not good. That's also three years ago. But he's got the counterbalance. Big, big guy. Has he sparred?

What happens when he gets jabbed in the fucking nose? There are a lot of things, though. A lot of things. Fighting is so different than hitting mitts. Oh, yeah. Literally a different sport. I'm not talking about him in a fight. I'm talking about the fact that most people who try to throw a kick,

it looks so bad. And that wasn't all that bad. But if we're talking about celebrities, we're not going to see any celebrities get punch of the face, Brian. So. Except for Brian count. And I'm not a celebrity. I don't know.

I think you have to remove celebrities that were formerly professionals. I agree. You are out. Randy Couture's out. Obviously. That's not fair. Mike Tyson's out,

obviously. Look, he's an athletic guy and a big fella. He was at a storage unit that I used to have my car parked at. I'm just of a dad too. And this is how I know he's actually a cool person. He comes in with his wife who is fucking so, so fucking hot. Bring her up, Jen.

Oh my God. She's not celebrity, right? Elsa Pataki. He just busts nuts in her, dude, because they have like six kids. He, she, I would be a never-ending stream of jizz inside her because she is so ridiculously hot and not a spring chicken and still looks like that. Oh, wow. That's not a good picture of her either.

What's a good one? Like there. She's smoking. That's a really attractive. And Chris Hemsworth, of course, should have, would you expect anything less? Right. Right. The man is not a fact I expected to three.

I'm at the, uh, good looking guy. I'm at the storage unit. I'm at the store. I'm sitting down with the guy at the counter, like, signing in. And, um, we're bullshitting because I had my GTO park there when I used to have my, my muscle car. And he was asking me about my car and we're talking. And Chris Hemsworth walks in with his fucking wife.

And I'm like, eh, I'm just. trying to keep silent, but he's, you know, it's a pretty impressive celebrity. Thor, yeah. And he was getting, looking at the, like, selection of locks um,

to put on his storage unit. And he goes, uh, what happens if I lose the combination to this one? What's the difference between these two? And then one, the guy's like, once,

you know, you comes with a key and the other one is a combination. He's like, well, what happened if I forget my combination? I was like, use a hammer of Thor.

You said that? And he goes, and the, because the guy started a lot. That's very funny. And I, And he goes, what? And I go,

use the hammer of Thor. And I'm thinking, oh, this guy's gonna fucking punch me or he goes. That's good, mate. That's good. And I was like, oh, okay. Okay, Thor's a nice guy. Dude, she is smoking.

Yeah, that's a woman. He's got a set of tent on. I've never seen her before. What is he? He's just Viking. He bulked up, too. He's a, he's a Aussie, isn't he? Yeah.

He's an Australian. He's a giant. That's a grid, it's a Poontang haven. been too. A lot of attractive. Have you been Australia? I was a little kid, but I just like, the media allows me to know that there's a

tremendous amount of Poon. It's ridiculous. Coming out of Australia. Some of those pretty girls in the world. You don't remember her in Fast and Furious? I don't watch Fast and Fierreash. Oh, okay. 37 years old. That doesn't happen. I watched the first one, then when they

started jumping off buildings and then the rocks like holding a GTO by his fucking right hand out of a helicopter. I'm like, out. How well does the rock do in the celebrity brawomen. Before he got, oh, I don't know. Because his size and he look, the man played at the University

of Miami. He's not, he's not he's an athlete, he's got some toughness, and he's fucking huge. Samoan and Black. Now he's probably not going to make for the most striker because of his bulk. He's me stiff. But if he gets a hold of you, that's a gigantic man. That has lifted profession. But we got to be talking about weight classes, right?

Or are we just talking about open, you can't do that with celebrities. You can't do that with celebs. The bigger guys, most celebrities are my size. They're small. Rogan would choke the rock out. Exactly. Easily.

Yeah. Very quickly. Very quickly. Yeah. Yeah. All you give some current events. You teach the rocks some of shit. Okay.

Okay. So a... Six years. To compete with Rogan, Rogan's a black belt. I think if you're really big and strong, it cuts through a lot of years, doesn't it? It does it?

Does it, Brian? Yeah. It does. The rock at his age, you're looking at, I mean, compared to a black belt? I'm saying a dude, a dude with your strength. Against a black belt? Yeah, even if he was my size of black belt, I don't care what you say.

Bob, I know that, I know, but after a year of you training with Henner and Huron, after a year, hold on. And I'm a black belt. Destroyed. And he's my size. You're wrong about that. What do I know? You're right, Brian.

You're wrong. You say this, but you're wrong. I agree with Brendan. So you train, you train for, after a year. I train for six years with Henner and Hero. Hold on. After you trained for one year. When you got up with a regular black belt, like me, my size,

you're telling me that he was tapping you out? Oh, yeah. A legit black belt would tap out any big guy in the world. Here's how I know. After a year, athlete like you, super easy. Super easy. Especially if it's just, if it's just Jackness.

Don't be wrong. I saw, I saw exceptions to that. Brian, I'm telling you. Were those exceptions wrestlers? Brian, I'm, that's the difference. Brian, I'm talking about a giant athlete like that. Hey, Bubba, I lived it, home boy. and I'm telling me

these guys will be modestly modest I'm not I'm telling me we get NFL guys in who train for two three years Brian Rotega

would annihilate them in 30 seconds annihilate them yeah Brian Rotega's an exception that's the that's the special thing about judicious I've seen my entire career

where the big guy comes in he's there for a year and he loses confidence and you don't see him anymore because he gets fucked up that's the real special thing about fucking time man I the longest

yeah it does for me like training wise I prefer, I'm obsessive about Muay Thai. I love training Muaytai. I love it. But the real special thing about Jiu-Jitsu is that what Brandon's talking about is very, very unique

in combat. If you took an former NFL player, like an exceptional athlete that's big and strong, and you gave him six months of jiu-jitsu lessons and he really took it seriously, Crohn Gracie at 140 pounds, still going to choke the fucking shit out of it.

Easy. Make him go to sleep. Easy. But, if you took, you know, a high-level NFL athlete and you gave him six months of boxing, he could hold his own. He could, you know, if you really, like a really talented athlete that's big and strong and you just taught him how to throw a light,

I mean, he could do stuff too, though, because a lot of really good boxers, so you got a tall 47-pounder in there, you know, who's been throwing his right hand ever since. He's going to light you up. I'd still put my money on a professional boxer, but my point is that... He can protect himself, stay out of friends.

If you're a great athlete, athlete, it's like the difference, like baseball is the same way. It doesn't matter how high you jump, how fast you run. If you're a gifted athlete, you can't play baseball. You can't play baseball. Yeah, yeah. You're right. I mean, when you're a big time strong athlete, you're a 270 pound, 260 pound athlete,

and you're wrestling or jihitsuing with a guy who's 165, you have a huge advantage, if you're athletic. You have a huge advantage. You're going to be able to, a little technique goes a long way. It goes a long way. A longer way. So, for instance, I've seen how this plays out. So Henry Gracie trains, he was a six or seven time pro baller.

Go to his Instagram, he just posts about him. This kid used to this guy, this grown man. He's from African descent. Forget his name. Play for the Kansas City Chiefs. Pro baller. Three years, jihitsu. He's a blue belt.

Every black belt at the Grace Academy would steamroll this dude on a daily basis. That guy right there. That guy right there. Six-nine pro baller, Brian. three years of Jitsu he's a blue belt as a blue belt smaller from small guy to the heavier black belts

would absolutely I'd have to see that with my honest because I have trouble believing it I just do I'm just telling you I've lived it brother I know I don't you know what you did Hanzos I'm telling you for 10 years I was in the Jitsu gym

we'd have big guys come in there and they get fucked up yeah I know they get fucked up the guys who get black belts will fuck them up but big big wrestlers I've seen white belt college wrestlers that come in that are jazz We're not talking about wrestlers.

I know. Wrestlers have different base. There's a thing about a real high-level wrestlers, freestyle wrestlers, if they're jacked enough, their bases are so. It doesn't matter how good your jihad is. Their bases are too good. Yeah, their bases are good.

Now, he's a freak of all freaks, by the way. Just a crazy ass. Six-time Pro-Baller, I mean, led the league in sacks. And he's been training a lot, huh? A ton. I watched Hennar. I mean, you watched Hennar like... He's 275 pounds.

Brian Rortega ties him in knots. Yeah. In knots. Fuck. Jiu-Jitsu is based off the little man. That's what it's for. There's plenty of YouTube videos of like, world's strongest man versus jiu-jitsu guy.

Or like, I think there's one. I think it's Clark Gracie. It may have been, it's a Gracie taking on a giant bodybuilder dude. And it's, you know, it's just a matter of time.

It's just a matter time. Tom Bali, that's his name. Freak, man. The freak of all freaks. I would put myself high on the, if you count me as a celebrity, which I don't really count.

But if there was a celebrity, putting Muay Thai fight, I'll throw myself high on the list. I will like you. You've been training forever. I have for a long time. And I love it. I taste it in my mouth when I'm on my way. You like it.

And I don't think people throw enough. I do a lot. But you hit in the head? Yeah. But I know, like when I'm fighting real competitive Muay Thai fighters, they're not, they're not. Not teen op. But they'll, they'll fuck me. But I definitely, I know what it's like the difference between getting my, my head snap back.

And then someone who's like just moving around. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The real part. From what I take from this conversation is very exciting for me because I'm going to train and I'm going to take my jiu-jitsu. Super serious.

Seriously. And in 10 years, you piece of shit, is coming. And it's going to be surfing turf, but it's going to be mostly turf. It's going to be mostly turf. Brian. And then I'm going to surf you

because you're going to be on the turf. You understand me? When I'm done with you, I'm going to get on you like this and I'm going to surf you because you're going to be passed out and I'm going to surf you. So I'm going to get you on the turf. and then I'm going to surf you.

Dude, I hate to be shitty. Don't put your finger near me. Think about your hair in 10 years. Let's go to current events. Fine, on that note. I'm going to, let's have a grappling match when this lockdown's over, and I'm not going to train at all.

You versus me. I'm training nothing. All right, do you, but I don't train enough. I haven't trained. I haven't put on a ghee or rash guard in six months. Well, that, yeah, but you're still training a lot. Are you a purple belt? A blue belt.

All right. Well, I would love to roll with you, but you're a strong guy and you're young and athletic and you've trained a long time, right? I'm scared. I am old and forever, but I would love to. We'll do it. You'll beat me up, but we'll have a good time. You'll beat me up.

Are we going to go take downs? From the standing position, like any jiu jitsu competition that's ever existed. Be careful now. Ryan wrestling high school. And I don't wrestle at all. I have no wrestling. Do you wrestle in high school? No.

Brian did? Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying you could blast a double. What were you going to say, though? You didn't wrestle after high school. And I'm a judoka guy. Okay.

But let's not. And I am my handsop blue belt. Hey, let's not. Let's speak. You didn't wrestle after high school at all. Warn me before he touched me. He says he was going to be on the American team. That's not true at all.

You don't know my history. That's not true at all. I get, you remember how I lied? I said I saw a mountain lion. Touch me again. You're lying saying you were going to wrestle in college. We know this.

Go to current events. Okay. That's a lot. And you said Popcat. I kept going down. Yeah, that's good. A city in Louisiana decided that since they're under a strict lockdown, they currently have a curfew from 9 p.m. to 6 a.m., no one is allowed out. And police are patrolling the streets.

They decided that they wanted to have a siren to play throughout the streets. They do like one round around the city where police officers are just blasting the siren, letting people know, hey, it's 9 p.m., please stay in your homes. We'll see you at 6 a.m. the person who chose the siren sound weren't aware that they chose the siren from the perch and they drove around the city playing that audio Frank Rillo told me about this yesterday

he's the story and it freaked everybody out and some people thought it was hilarious that would scare the fuck on me promptly after it started gaining a lot of traction on social media and immediately after immediately after the police chief came out was like, we are so sorry, we're not

gonna use any sirens, just please stay home at night. Let me see that. Please play this. The video of the one on top. Any of them. The cops out of her while and playing the purge sign. I got this.

Oh my God. What were they thinking? Also, no one else caught on. No one else. Dude, that's from the purge. That's going to freak everybody the fuck out. Seriously. That's a scary sound.

Either no, people are tone deaf or someone's hysterical. Yeah, someone's really funny. Someone has a sense of humor for the Louisiana Police Department. Ooh. You know Roy McDonald used to have his

fucking music picked, his walkout music picked by some random person? No. It's the craziest story. That is true. He changed his number and whoever is involved with choosing the walkout song, you know,

someone at the UFC contacts you and it's like, what's going to be your walkout song? He changed his number. And so this random person who has Rory McDonald's old number gets a text from Frank Silver, whoever is, you know, And he's like, my walkout songs, Ice Ice Baby.

It went on for like five years before Roy McDonald's like, what the fuck are you? Why are you playing Nickelback? Oh my God. You know Roy really well, right? Really well, yeah. I love Roy. All right. Next one.

Is he the current champion or? Yeah. No. He lost. Okay. So Tracy Morgan did an interview online with the host of the Today show. and he was so bored he decided to talk about his sex life

on live TV. And did she freak out? No, she was kind of chuckling along with him and then try to... He's so fucking funny. When he's on, he's so fucking funny. Being at home for Tracy and his family. Oh, well, me and my wife

been quarantining in there for like three weeks, so she's pregnant three times. Every week she got pregnant. Okay. So, you know... So we have... And we also, we're role playing a lot now. We're role playing.

She's a young maiden. Okay. Her grandfather was infected with coronavirus. And I'm the scientist who discovered a killer. And she'll do anything to save her grandfather. I mean anything. I mean anything. You know what, Tracy, Willie took us on a tour.

You know what's going on in that home of yours? There's a... She was not feeling it. He's so fucking, buddy. He's good. What's this? Oh, he's wasted. Looks like an old...

You know what sucks? I've seen your... What's up? Go ahead and play that because I'm sure... It's a three-minute long clip. You guys want to watch this? Yeah, let me see... What it sucks is that that was one little teeny burst of legitimate actual humor.

Yeah. On those morning shows. And I guarantee you while that was going on, there were producers going... Freaking the fuck out. Make this stop. Make this stop. Get them out of here. Get them out of it.

It wasn't vulgar. I should do anything. It wasn't vulgar. No FCC problems. But yet, I don't do it. Guarantee they had a problem with him. I love it. Have you worked with him before, B?

No, man. He's funny, man. I've had friends who've worked with him, though. Let me see him. He's just real well known for doing great characters. I mean, your characters in Saturday Night Live were great. I forgot he was a Dominican Lou, as I was ever to mind. Dominican Lou.

I've done these shows. It was on Saturday Night for seven years. It was fun. Lauren Michaels is like, Oh, we won Canobee to me. So, you know what I'm saying? Saturday Night Live was a dig of a system. Mm-hmm.

Good, look at me on. I'm handsome. Now I can see why I got so many kids. I'm telling you, man, I'm with the Jaguars last night. I love my ladies here. Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah, so again, not family.

Somebody going to get pregnant. Did you hear me? It's not family, sir. Two days, somebody going to get pregnant. So, yeah, Tracy, listen. Ladies, my Mercedes. I'm the Uchow. Yeah, that's right.

I don't have what LL got. I got biscuits. I got a loaf of bread. Come get this. You're going to eat? You get that? Look at that. That's a mating call.

That's a mating call. He's so great. Pretty much when people get expect. All the pretty ladies here is. By the way, he's doing stand-up in that town. That's why he's doing that bullshit. And this guy, this fucking stiff. You got the most stiff motherfuckers who ask you these lame questions.

And all you want to do is. He's going along with it. Yeah, yeah. Most of the time, they're like, well, anyway, he's been, you've seen him on that. Yeah, it's the worst. You never see me. What can they expect tonight? Isn't that, it's not an amazing development, though, for the comic, the touring comic, you don't have to do that anymore.

The greatest thing ever. Right? The greatest thing. I still do some local press. I love radio. I came from radio. I owe radio everything. But there was very few shows, like the one I grew up on, on the Kevin a Bean show, where

most shows, I know at first hand when I, when I did dance with stars or other bullshit, where I'd have to do these radio tours, you know, just via phone or whatever. I'm like, wow, this is not fun. There's no middle ground. Either they're fucking terrible or they're really good. And the really good ones are far and few between. But they're out there. Everyone loves, especially like celebrities from the screen,

love to shit on radio overall. No, there's some really talented people still. You know Kevin Bean no longer, huh? They shut it down. That's insane. And they found out like via text. Like, for those the outside Los Angeles, you may not understand, but Kevin and Bean were a morning radio show.

staple. At many, many years, number one here in Los Angeles, but to have a morning radio show for the same morning radio show in the same market at the same station for 31 years, okay, and then for them to fire them, to fire Kevin, who Bean had already retired, but to fire Kevin, like, he was some overnight guy who got there a couple months ago. They should have, the radio wanted, the station wanting to go in a different direction. That's your business. Is it Nick Cannon now? I don't know. That's Power 106. But the station wanted going somewhere, fine okay you're business you're a company you do what you need to do but they should have said in three weeks it's going to be your last day we're going to have a special going away show

we're going to bring back we're going to bring back corolla we're going to bring back kimmel we're going to bring back carson daily we're going to bring back me and everybody's going to sell we're going to have it at an event center so the fans can come down they're like um yeah so showing up to work today's not a thing anymore that was it yeah that's how they do they're like and he sent out a tweet and kem was like man just just got word we're not doing anymore so the show won't be back tomorrow

it's insane it's so disrespectful corporate shit where they just don't care about absolutely don't care they're just like we got a bottom line some kind of boardroom has never listened to the show and it's not a K-Rock issue

because K-Rock is absorbed into this massive media corporation K-rock itself had no choice is clear channel still a monster Clear Channel's a monster Comcast and entercom What made radio great was it was the local

guy, like a guy like John DeBella in Philly. He's been there forever. He knows the restaurants. He knows the whole. It's all local. It's part of the city. Yeah, it's part of the city. And you would tune in because it was part of the city. And that's like, Willie B in Denver still doing the damn thing. Do you know Willie B at all?

I know of him. He has KBPI. He's great. But you know, these guys are all getting older too and it's like. I did John not the big boy in town anymore. Not anymore. Look, podcasting and the series model. Also looks like a Walrus. The series model and podcasting is it's made that.

That is it's over. That's over. That is a, it's dead. Okay. Like, let's just give up on the idea. Come back, won't it? There's a lot of value in something like terrestrial free radio. But, but what is this? Yeah. Everybody. This is no difference.

There's no need for broadcasting when you can microcast. Yeah, man. Because if you, I can only listen to Kevin Bean from 7 to 9 a.m. It's like, well, dude, if I miss it, I'm fucked with this. Listen to it when you're, when it's ready. That's right. On demand. What else you got?

Okay. So Bryant Walker is the mayor of Alton, Illinois. Last week, he actually ordered a police, police officers to hand out citations as well as arrests for anyone who were actively going out and staying in like large groups of people over 10. Sure. And a couple days ago, he got a call from the police chief saying that his wife was actually caught in a bar at 1 a.m. with a bunch of her friends. and he had to go out and basically apologize to the public saying that he's very embarrassed, but he wants to lead by example by telling the police officers to arrest her and give her the normal protocol.

Fuck, yes. Of any average person. Got to do it. He not only looks like a hypocrite, but he looks like such a cuck. It's his wife. It's not like she was out at a community gathering, praying and shit. She was at a bar,

hammered with her fucking female friends at 1 a.m. You know what she was doing. He's looking for some days. That's hilarious. But yeah, now she can potentially face up to 364 days in jail or a $2,500 fine. I'll show you it. For being out. Wow.

Yeah, I guess the situation was she knew somebody who had a bar. They decided to open it and have a couple of people come over. They hung out in the back, but somebody found out. I didn't know that was illegal. I didn't either. I don't think it's federally. I think it's in certain. But it can be.

it can be, you can be jailed for it. I think city to city, state to state, the rules differ. We need to stop talking about anything else right now because my boy Chin has on a Pantera fucking hoodie. It doesn't look bad. And no one has made reference.

You were wearing a Pantera fucking hoodie. He wears it all the time. I don't know what a Pantera. You mean the company, the band. Pantara. No longer. Why is that a Pantera hoodie?

Those are the bandmates on the show. This are original, Reginal. Oh, okay. Dimebag. Two of them died. I say Pantera. Why did Pantera?

Why did they die? Why did the guitarist? Dimebag? He died because he got murdered on stage. Dimebag? He was killed on stage. He was, after Pantera broke up, they started a band called Damage Plan. He and his brother Vinny Paul.

Vinnie Paul, who was the drummer, the Abbott brothers. And they started another band. And they were on stage, I believe in Ohio. And a guy walked on stage while they were playing and fucking shot him point blank. the face. Yes. Like, numerous times, like a chest head, the whole thing. Why? He was a military guy, right? Milkshire a veteran. He was ill. Was he pissed that? And he, I think he didn't like the fact that Pantera was over. Oh, shit. But he, he, he, he, he, he didn't get a lot of, um, info from him because then the police subsequently shot and killed him. Damn. Because he was not going out without a fight. Oh, wow. We don't never necessarily know.

That's scary. Is there video that? I definitely. There is. And Matt, Matt Brown, fighter. They're mortal. He was there. He was there at that at that. Front row. I don't know if he was at front row, but he was at the concert. Way to go, security. I mean, that's like,

it's hard to plan for it, dude. And this wasn't a big arena. You know, they had, they were starting up their new band, and this was probably like a 250 to 500% cost. What year was this?

Like 2004? Fuck, I didn't, I didn't, I had no idea. That's terrible. Went out doing what he loves. What the fuck.

Damn, Dimebag. Dimebag was nuts. Columbus, Ohio, to some rate. Yikes. Terrible. Wow.

That's terrible. well let's end on that good times hey wait a minute shout out to dime bag is there anything else there's more stuff I don't know if you guys want to keep going

I can go on pretty soon all right yeah we've been going you're going you're not upset to do let's get a shit let's do two more hours man Mike you're the best dude

you guys are the best thank you again for having super short notice brother yeah but I literally have nothing to do and I live down the block nobody has anything to do great we and are going to roll you guys are going to fight

I'm going to fight I'm gonna choke you. I'm gonna choke you so hard. So, you are gonna be surprised that your hands will be a little more full than you expect. I believe that you can,

you'll probably take me down because you do have the experience in judo and all that. I'm gonna wear you like, I'm gonna wear you like a sweater. I'm gonna wrap my legs around you and you're gonna get a hold, you're gonna get a feel of my grip

and you're gonna go, oh shit, what have I done? And your nightmares will come true. You strong kid. And I'm gonna grab your arm, I'm gonna yank it across you and I'm gonna triangle you too. And I'm not gonna give up

when you tap and I'm gonna put him to sleep and I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna probably teabag you through my pants. Really? You get a foam in your mouth. Now, I got some tricks on my sleeve.

I carry a small knife, tiny knife. I'm gonna cut you up a little bit and mark you up your back and stuff like that. You got nice skin and I'm jealous of it. So I'm gonna carve you up.

You're shredded. I'm gonna shred you up even more. Welcome to Boston Market. And my elbows might open up too. Might open up a couple fucking streaks on your face. You elbow me and I'm gonna push you off.

I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna leg kick you so fucking hard. That's what I want. You're literally, gonna cry. Like in front of other Grush. I guess you've never seen me

jump over leg kicks, have you? What will happen is you'll go hide to jump over and he'll catch the bottom of foot and you'll flip over and you'll fucking like a football player getting decleted like a wide receiver coming across the middle,

your head will go whack into the ground and I will fall over laughing. Well, I want to promote this. I'll be the Dana White. It's me $4.99. What do you? You lift a lot. You can move a lot of weight.

Are you very strong? Yeah, for, I mean, I'm not like him, but for a guy my size I am. What do you, what do you deadlift? Hey, what do you dead left? 5.20?

Oh my God. What do you dead left, Brian? Not even. He does more. Not even. I know. I don't need your answer. He does more.

That's a lot of weight. Five, how much? Like 520? But right now it's been three, four weeks since I've touched away probably. Whatever. 480. I can't come close to that. Well, you're going to fight, Brian.

Oh, Jesus. How much you weigh? 180? What do you weigh, Brian? 170? Yep. This is perfect. But I'm not.

Listen, April 27th. End of the lockdown. End of lockdown. I'm one. 69. I bet you. What do you bench? Like 3.15.

I'm not anything great. I've never been a good bencher. A lot stronger than me. I'm going to have to really go for ankle locks. I need to start. I need to come over the house. All right. Anything, I will say, anything below my waist.

I have no defense. I have no defense. I have no defense. Let's do that. Some knee bars. Let's do that. Fucking sorrow. We love you, dude.

I love you both. Thanks. This the final kid. We're out.