The Fighter & The Kid - Is The GFL For Real?? | TFATK Ep. 1063

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

Bryan Callen and Brendan Schaub talk with Darren Owen of the GFL (Global Fight League) to discuss GFL's vast fight roster, legends vs legends, Post Malone's cookies, the possibility of Brendan taking a fight if given enough money, Bryan vs Mark Zuckerberg, current events around the world and much more! Magic Mind - Get 45% off the Magic Mind bundle here: https://www.magicmind.com/TFATKJAN #magicmind #mentalwealth #mentalperformance O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER JOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com and enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% OFF your first order or 30% OFF your subscription

Yes we did, cause we back at it again, it's the fighter and the kid This is really the fighter and the kid Come on baby We're with Darren Owen Very special guest Yeah very special guest You might know who he is Brian, he is the face and the owner of the GFL Which I'm actually very excited about

You're excited but also to be fair, you, like when I told you I was signing on board with Darren and GFL, you gave me some pushback, Rogan gave me some pushback. I didn't give you pushback. But once I explained it to you, you kind of shut your little traps. Yeah, first of all, there are two things going for it. One is the nostalgia of fighters who were in their prime and no longer in their prime. But you can run back shit like Luke Rockhold and Chris Weidman and things like that. That, when you run those things back, people are gonna watch.

They're gonna be like, wait a minute, now you got these guys pushing 40 or maybe older. And there is something about that where you wanna see how people have held up. The other thing is that you've got these new up-and-comers too though. And so it creates, and I like the idea of teams. You got some young cats on there.

And you got teams. Correct. And so that to idea of teams. You had some young cats on there. And you got teams. Correct. Right? And so that to me is interesting. But how did you conceive of this thing? Simply it's the NFL, the NBA, the NHL for the sport of mixed martial arts. It's literally copy paste. Same business model, 50-50 rev share.

Let's just start taking care of the athletes like every other major professional sport takes care of their athletes. So every other major professional sport takes care of their athletes. So it's, it's not a, oh, you know, mystical idea. Right. It's just logic. We have the third most popular sport in the world, a sport that's truly global and a sport still in its infancy stage.

So this is just what I believe is the logical evolution to actually change the business model and do it the right way where we have all these brilliant examples of these leagues that have been decade and decade and decade, and they all work great. So why do you think... And the players make money. The pushback on them might be, but the pushback on there, Darren, and you and I have talked about this, but I want people to realize this, like the pushback would be like the fighting is different than opposed to the NFL football

basketball baseball and there's been other organizations that have popped up affliction PFL which is tanking. That's another conversation. Yeah no I'm just saying that was my question to piggyback what you said. Why have so many of your leagues failed? So no one's really the IFL for that even though GFL is different but there's been all these other kind of different examples of fight organizations but they don't make it so like right when you know you explained it to me like that's kind of the first question everybody asks like well how are they going to

make it when the only proof we have of anything working is the UFC model. Yeah. Yeah. I think that, well, what the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results, these 700 promotions that have ever existed and one has been truly successful, they've all followed the same business model. This is just a new, unique, different business model for the sport of MMA. However, it's historically proven whether it's Formula One, professional bull riding, sailing,

golf leagues now with, with Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy's golf league that they're selling teams for hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah. They were worth half a billion before they even put on their first event. Wow. So this is like, and as far as like, Hey,

you're a billionaire. What do you want to do with your life? Do you want to own a football team? Well, good luck. You can't really buy in. And if you could buy in, you're probably spending. What do you want to do with your life? Do you want to own a football team? Well, good luck. You can't really buy in. And if you could buy in, you're probably spending 10 plus billion to do it. So now all of a sudden you can have a team of MMA fighters, exact same business model

where you can buy new talent. My team versus your team. This team, Elon Musk, let's go. Mark Zuckerberg, let's go. Celebrity judges. Celebrity coaches. We're not celebrity judges. I mean, go. Celebrity judges, celebrity coaches. We're not celebrity judges.

I mean coaches. Yeah, legit coaches. Well legit coaches. We have the best coaches in the world right now. We have celebrity judges. I mean, I'm sorry, I didn't mean celebrity coaches. Well known coaches. I just mean coaches that are really well known.

Oh, do you know the coaches who are involved? Yeah, you got Ray Longo, you got Tiago Alves. Looks like you got some great people. The Cain Velasquez. Javier Mendez. Javier Mendez, damn. Javier Corbero. Yes.

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Some sort of chunk of that big pie. You're gonna have to do it. We want we're not here to compete with the UFC. Yeah We're here to just do something different, leverage the team base, right? Like we're in LA, right? I hope you guys are, well, you're moving to Austin, but you know, maybe we'll have an Austin team. Yeah. But as far as LA. I fight, I train bro.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I've gone Ryan as a coach. You should be an LA team, a fan of the LA team, right? Like so every fight you go to, if it's LA versus New York, 10 fighters from LA, 10 fighters from New York,

so you have that built in, hey, I'm trying to cheer for my team. I want the purple and gold team to win. I hope they beat the black and blue team. So to ask a dumb question, what you would have is you'd have the New York team, and then you'd have a Brazilian team. You'd have the American team, Brazilian team, and you would have them, obviously, you'd just pair them team. Or you'd have an American team, Brazilian team.

And you would have them, obviously you'd just pair them off. So you'd have an American fight just like with tough or something like that. Yeah. So every fight there's, there's one fighter from each of the teams. So you've got that, you know, investment of cheering for my team. It's the number one driver in sports fandom proven is cheering for your favorite team. So we're, we're in the third most popular sport in the world, truly global sport. And there's never been other than kind of IFL that tried to do this, but like 20 years ago,

we're a wildly world, different place in the world right now. Yeah. And you know, why wouldn't the same model work that works for everything, whether it's cricket, you know, race car driving, it's all the different, uh, different sports. And how do you deal with the, with the

blowback, right? Like like because whatever any league comes out You know a lot of guys use those legends, you know, the older UFC legends shooting get some pushback Oh, it's a grandfather league stuff like that Yeah, but my whole explanation there and I'll start with Brian Rogan about this off air. It's like that model of Because casuals they really don't know. They just know the names and that puts the butts in the seat. It's no different than if it's a comedy club, the comedy club books the biggest name to attract the people and then they fill in the rest of the lineup. So you're just doing that, but then you're looking, you're, you're

cultivating the younger talent, but you're just using those older heads to get the butts in the seats. And then once you get that initial viewership, then they're like, oh damn Sage Northcutt. Oh damn, Kevin Lee or insert whoever, you know, these younger cats, that's all you're doing. I mean, yeah, you're exactly right. Right? Like the reality is if we just come out and said like, Hey, here are all these great fighters here. You haven't really heard of, or if you're the casual, you don't know, but like, you know, the top 20 names we have, our top 20 fighters have 36 million followers.

Yeah. So it's, it's the collective. It's that critical mass of all of these names, all coming together at once and all kind of having the, the positive good vibes behind it, knowing that Hey shit, if we do well We're gonna get paid paid. Yeah, because they directly benefit for however many pay-per-views we sell however many tickets Did you got Uriah Faber?

I'll pay money to watch your eye fight Chad Mendez your eye a hall you got I mean look at Sage Northcott You got the Andre I'll ask you Frank Mir when was the last time Frank Mir fought? That's gonna be a minute But like I think like you know, it's, you know, we're going to, you know how many UFC champ versus UFC champ matchups we have in our first two events? Yeah. It's like four or five. Wow.

And then, yeah, but the, probably 80% of our entire roster is bad-ass young up and coming fighters. And then, yeah, you know, you've got the guys who've kind of been at the big show and then whether it's injury or they needed time off or something like that. Like, you know, you got the guys who've kind of been at the big show and then whether it's injury, they needed time off or something like that. Like, you know, some of these guys you might not know, like they are some absolute killers on our

roster. I'm sure. And then you're hoping to attract the younger, so some of the free agents or the young kids who are coming up, you're hoping to attract them because of the pay incentive. Well, that's the other thing too, like, you know, do you want to go one route where you're getting a

limited pay or do you want to try to get on the, you know, like the fighters that are on the, if we can do, which I think we can, Danis versus Ferguson, Weidman versus Rockhold. If you're on one of those fights that we're going to have good revenues coming in from it, they share in it. So worst case scenario, they get a 1% revenue

share. They might think, oh, well, my guaranteed purse is 30 grand, but they might walk away with a hundred grand with the rev share. get a 1% revenue share. They might think, oh, well, my guaranteed purse is $30,000. But they might walk away with $100,000 with a rev share. Yeah, with a rev share. So they're just incentivized. And everyone's incentivized to sell. And Dan, I'm sure you guys have gone through the number.

But is it sustainable? Because obviously, the complaint with the UFC is fighter pay and stuff like that. I don't know their books. I don't know how much they can afford to pay extra. I don't know. I'm not going to pretend I do. They kill it. They kill it. I know that. That's what I'm't know how much they can afford to pay extra. I don't know. I'm not going to pretend I do. They kill it.

They kill it. I know that. That's what I'm saying. So we know that business model works. Works very well for them. Very well for them. And I'm a TKO stockholder. Yep.

And I'm a very happy TKO stockholder. So kudos to them on- Agreed for figuring it out. ... a phenomenal business model that works extremely well for them. But dude, you do have some bankers. But the question would be, is doing the rev share model, is that sustainable? Yeah. Does it sustain them on the NFL, the NBA, the NHL? Right.

That's, that's the model. It's, it's, once you share 50% of your revenues with your athletes and like, we don't have a crazy, a board of, you know, executives that are getting, you know, our monthly burn is pretty low. Yeah. So it's, it's just a different model. It's I, I know how to construct a model. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, executives that are getting, you know, our monthly burn is pretty low. So it's, it's just a different model.

It's I, I know how to construct the, you know, put on events and do it at a profitable level. This is, I'm probably the only person in PFL slash WSOF history that ever put on a profitable event. And you know, you've, you've got now where, how many, half a billion is what they've raised. And I know people who were the first investors in that entity, they haven't received a dollar

back from their investment. Yeah. So at what point in time do new investors say like, hey, you haven't paid back a dollar to your original investors. Maybe this isn't a very good investment. And I think that's what we're starting to see. I'm getting calls from these private equity funds that have saying like, hey, we've met with PFL, we're not really liking what we're seeing based on the track record and the history. This new thing you

guys are doing seems kind of interesting. I bet. So those conversations are happening. We just did something yesterday that was pretty significant. Really? Can we talk about it? Hey, don't tease us. Yeah, I'll kind of give you some info that I can. We signed a term sheet yesterday for our first team sale in the tens of millions of dollars.

We have another one lined up for even more in the same range. This is the game we're playing. It's billionaires buying teams that want to do something and they see the value. Like Forbes just released that expected value of an NFL franchise in 10 years from now will be $27 billion. Oh my God. Just off of advertising and stuff. And here's the other thing too. It's the media rights. It's the media rights. But then also, think the small sample pool, the pool size of actual human beings that can buy a team.

A, if you can afford it, I've had four of these. A, if you can afford it, the chance of you even buying it because they're guaranteed to not lose money. They don't give it up. It's all family. How has the investment been for anybody who's ever bought a professional sports league on the planet? Crushing. They never, NBA, they just don't lose money. So no, it stays in the family.

Like no one's gonna give it up. Their legacy purchases. Yes. And that's the coolest thing you can do. Like what do you, like do you think Jerry Jones loves his life? Yeah. Dude, crushed. So hell of an actor too if he saw him on land man. Is he? Oh, bro, you can act but yeah, to your point, it's uh, yeah, so you're not getting an NFL, you're not getting them, no one's given up those teams. So if I'm a rich dude, billionaire with money, it's like, and most of them are in

MMA, most of them are it's just who's not yep there you why not it's it's a different level of the game when you're when you're there and you can do that like then you have groups like Stan Kronke who they own like an NFL team an NBA team like the MLS team like why is it that the UFC has been so successful versus all these other teams what what is it like is it they just make stars they're really good at making stars or they- They've built their brand. They've built the brand.

So when people think of MMA, they think UFC. Yeah. Because all of moms come up to me and go, oh, my son fights UFC. Like really? What card was he on? Yeah. She's, oh, he was at the casino. That's right.

That's not UFC. That's not UFC. That'd be MMA. Yeah. That's like saying my son plays NFL. He plays football in high school. Right. Because that, that they've done such a- I've played in NFL for like 13 years. Yeah.

No, you look like it. I know that. I know that. But that's how, like, their branding is so well. It's like, you know, Kleenex or Coca-Cola. Yeah, Xerox, Band-Aid. That's right. Exactly.

You think MMA, you think UFC. Yeah. Brilliant job on them. Yeah. The best, yeah. Yeah, it's really true. It's just a different thing. Yeah. It's just a different thing. Yeah, Yeah. It's really different thing. Yeah. It's just a different thing.

Yeah, man. It's a, and how hard is it with these conversations to get fighters on board? Because easy. Is it easy? Well, they're looking to fight like, what are we doing? And people that want to like say, how can you not really cheer for us in some regard where, oh, so like, what do you guys do? And what we're sharing half of our revenues directly with the fighters. So if we're successful, they're successful. Exactly. We're giving them retirement fund. We're giving them an insurance fund. You know, we're giving them world-class coaching if they want to take it. So talk all the crap you want. It's hard to say no to that. But like, it's hard to be like, Oh, well, why you guys, you guys are stupid. Well, why?

Because we're, we're trying to fix problems in the sport. What's another problem? Extreme weight cutting. Like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, oh, well, why you guys, you guys are stupid. Well, why? Because we're, we're trying to fix problems in the sport. What's another problem? Extreme weight cutting. Like that's crazy.

Do you know the way guys almost kill themselves? No, explain the weight cutting to Brian. So we've just added like, so we know Brennan's a heavyweight, right? We know, we know the legacy of these fighters and what weight category they are. Right? Wideman, Rockhold, they're middleweights. Yeah. They've always been middleweights.

Yes. They're both going to theoretically cut like 30 pounds to make 185. Right. Well, they're both doing it. Why? Right. Why not just fight it? Just fight at a way more natural weight.

Like you said, 200. We've added weight to all of our weight categories just to make it so you don't have to kill yourself. It's such a good point. There's a grace. They're both killing themselves to get down. And everyone's doing it. Yeah.

And you get a better product if they're both at their ideal weight. Your longevity is increased, you can fight more frequently, so that's another problem we're tackling. It's, you know, some of these guys are fighting once or twice a year and depending on what promotion they're in, it's like once a year. And they only get paid when they fight. So let's give them three, three to four fights a year. Yeah.

At their weight. At their natural weight. You can do that, that you can do that much activity if you're not cutting that drastic weight measures, you're also getting a better product. Cause the fighter's going to fight better. Cardio is going to be better. The weight cuts are insane. The weight cuts, you can't fight three, four times a year if you're cutting a lot of weight.

I've seen some of the stuff. There of the 55ers are walking around at 190, and I'm not kidding. Anthony Rumble Johnson fighting at Welterweight? Yes. That was the most extreme. He was 240, dude. But have you ever met Michael Chiesa? Yeah.

Michael is 6'2". He's 205. Big dude. And there's no fat on him. He's built like a brick shit house He was fighting at 55 like I don't know how in the fuck you get down. We know that You are significantly at a higher risk for concussion. Yeah when you're dehydrated like that. It's it's not good It's not good for your longevity. It's not good for your performance. It's not good for your mental health

Like let's just fix all the problems we can fix and it's some of it's gonna take time. But I think what works, it's not like, oh, it's not like these, like, boxing where there's three pound weight classes. Like, no, he's middleweight. 185 to whatever they agree to, that's middleweight. And then people in their heads go, all right, I know middleweight. I know a general idea of middleweight.

But if you're creating these new weight classes, that's where you lose people. When you start implementing all these new rules and restrictions, that's when people go, I don't know, man. I'm out. You don't want to confuse the crowd. I think at the end of the day though, it's just like, what fights can we make? And at the end of the day, I think that's all that people care about.

Dylan, Dan, Tony Ferguson, take my money. I mean, listen, you've got, you all are a Romero fighting Hector Lombard. No, no, they're teammates. You're on the same team. Oh, damn. I was like, oh boy. You want to know who you are where Mero's fighting? Yes. Let's take a little break. Let's take a break. Can I ask you a question? You're into keeping your car on the road. I am but the thing is I want an

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Let's have legends versus legends. Oh boy. No, let's not do the, the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson age difference. Yeah. Let's do like Mike Tyson versus Evander Holyfield in like 2012. Yeah. That's the type of thing we're going to.. Yeah, dude who the hell is gonna fight? Yo Romero

Yeah, did you see the poor savage that fought him and bare-knuckle? They go some slap. I immediately felt bad for Rogan Shogun because he's great. Holy shit What are you Joe Biden? Dude Shut up dude. Shut up. But, but uh. Today Junior. I got excited because I felt bad for Shogun.

Like Yoel Romero still has all that explosive energy. No, no the best of this that me and Roger talk about is when he fought that dude from slap fight league in bare knuckle. And you can tell, you know, Yoel starts off slow and then he explodes and he's there there and Then he jumps in the air and you can tell the guy like oh like that's the minute He knew he fucked yeah fuck around and find out fighter I'm Spiderman who he's probably 60 in Cuban years when he jumped in the air like an alien that you get you can just see The guy's face like It's like yeah, dude first of all any of specimen and you're fighting bear that matchup who made that ridiculous matchup Sony likes violence

I mean god Stop it right now. You know, I mean maybe if three guys like that were in there against him. I'd watch that. Yeah But yeah, we're in this world of like popularity, right? Like why did Tyson versus Paul? Crush all of the numbers and all of the views why is Jake Jake Paul even in talks with Fynne Cannella? It's all views. That's what it is. But I think too even what you guys are doing, when we were doing the draft and we had Tony on live, my whole thing was that, was like, what's your why?

What's the why here, dude? You've been through some wars, you're a legend. At one time, I would argue he's the best 155er walking the planet. Even when Khabib was in his prime, I would have picked him over Khabib off that never came to fruition. But it's like what's the why?

Then when you hear him, you're like, all right, all right, I'm in, I'm in. I'm fucking in dude. You know? The fans have spoken, like they wanna see Tony fight. Yes. And you know, like let's be polarizing. Like love us or hate us, right?

Like if you're talking about this fantastic, you know, if it was just crickets Yeah, we got a big problem. Have you had some names that surprise you call? Be like hey, man, I'm interested once my heels up everybody came to the table Like it was all of them were at first somewhat surprising like, you know, like Holly Holm didn't expect her to be available You know this piece She got out of her. She's done I think two fights or one fight on a contract. Two fights left. Asked to get released to sign with GFL. And they released her.

Yeah. Again and I think why it works for Darren is he's not saying we're better than UFC. UFC get ready like all these other. No like hey man we're just trying to do our thing and Dan's like yeah cool. Holly you're out go ahead go go over there. Great. Which is you're out. Go ahead and go, go over there. Great. Which is on her. And like, it's great for them where it's like, hey, like it shows that they can build these

athletes into superstars. So can you. 100%. Yeah. But for them, it's like, we've, we've done that. We've built this person. Now they can go somewhere else and earn. And you know, we all know we're the best fighters on the world are currently fighting.

That's not a secret to anybody. And we're not trying to say we're trying to have the best or like, I don't go to, you know, what I think another promotion did was let's go look at the rankings and just get the highest ranked fighters. The rankings I want to look at it's how popular, how many fans do you have? How do you get in this? How does that directly generate? But hold on real quick before we go there with them. When you see a free agent like Aaron

Pico who's a big fish. I tried to get him before. Before he got announced? Before the before the draft. So like you know other other promotions aren't some of them feel very threatened from what we're doing. And I think other ones should. Other should for sure. The amount that have come out of where they were over to this because they want to, because number one, we'll, we'll treat them with respect.

And you know, like, I, this is my world of the fight world, MMA, like I know this business. I know how to talk to these guys and know how to treat them. I know what they want. I know what they need. So just putting in those solutions from the beginning is, it's resonating with everybody. And everyone's getting behind this and they're like, we all want this to work. We all want this to be successful.

I don't know why you wouldn't, if you're a fight fan, it's like, why wouldn't you want to work? But with Aaron Pico was the, the talks with, with Sam is see, cause that it's not a knock, but like as a diet, like you cut my veins, fucking Bob O'Reilly comes out, right? Like I fucking bleed UFC. So I've always, and I worked, uh, Aaron Pico's his biggest fight when he fought him at square garden. I was, you know, I was on the commentating team there and I was like,

he's our LeBron James. He's a blue chip recruit. This is his moment. And then an experience shoots in in, gets guilty and choked in like a minute. You're like, OK, well, that's not good. But then obviously, he's back on the winning side now. He has experienced kids, checks all the boxes.

For him, I'm assuming for him, he's like, I like what you guys are doing, but I want to test myself in the UFC since he's still young. For sure. That's what I assume. And some are like that. And how many fighters dream for the longest time has always been, I want to be in the UFC.

Yeah. 99% of them. Yeah. So, and, you know, I'm, I'm in touch with reality. I wouldn't hold it against anyone to try to go to the biggest promotion in the world and, and test yourself on that. Yeah. It's almost like you don't need to speak about it.

in the world and test yourself on that level. Yeah, it's almost like you don't need to speak about the UFC. It's almost like you're creating an intriguing team-like competition with guys who have done a lot in the sport and some who haven't and are just starting out. It's inspiring to see them. There was a fighter that walked into one of the gyms that was on a different team. They're like, yo, man, you gotta get out of here. Like, you're not part of this team. And I was just like, whoa,

like those conversations are happening? And I was like, hell no. That drama is important to capture. Are you guys going to? The storylines. You've always talked about storylines. All storylines. And how important it is, right?

And how important it is to do that, sort of like follow the fighters and see what they're dealing with. Tell me about that. You watch Netflix, right? Yes. They tell stories, right? Yes.

Go ahead, dude. Yeah. So we, we literally signed with the number one sports content creator, storytellers on the planet. Wow. Box to box films. They do like formula one drive to survive sprint, full swing point break Santa rugby sevens.

Like they, they do, they just did an NHL on Amazon. That I, I'm getting the best in class for everything we're doing to showcase these athletes. Like no one's ever done. And like, why did the UFC blow up? Altar fighter reality show. Once you kind of got a kids site into these fighters lives. So true. And you got that emotional investment of like, oh, I like watching, insert any one of those

big names. Well, think about the story. Think about the stories of guys who are still fighting who need to. Or you know, like, so why did Rocky three, four, five, and six? It's like you want to see these guys who are kind of like, they're trying one last time to get something they didn't get done. That's the Tony Ferguson story. When you hear him talk and I was very adamant about him not fighting. Yeah. And I said this in the meetings. I was like, dude, I don't condone him fighting about it. And then they're like, well, just talk to him and bring up your concerns.

Then we talked. You hear him talk about like his passion, starting wrestling as a kid. Now he's on a team and he has more left to to do now I'm not saying he's gonna have a 10-year you know run in GFL but when you hear his story I just went off dude I'm fuck I'm in dude I'm in how you you listen to him talking like I got I gotta see him fight I want to see him win one I want to see him go out on top and it's like you know if if Brendan was going to go fight no matter who he fights you're watching I assume yeah. Whether it's fighting the current, if you're fighting Francis in Ganyu, you're watching. If you're fighting, watching something in the parking lot,

you're gonna go watch him fight. So it's that, whether you're Holly Holm, Dylan Dannis, Paige Van Zandt, Tony Ferguson, whoever, they have fans. Fans that care about them, fans that know their story. We were just in New Orleans doing a radio row with Paige and Hanny Goldie, her teammate. And it was, dude, they were like, we could barely

even walk around in there. There's like, I'm like looking at Lawrence Taylor, Joe Montana, Drew Brees, Kittle, like all these, Justin Jefferson, I'm just like, this is a who's who of like, and who are they stopping? Paige, Paige, can I get a picture? Can I get a picture? And Paige gets it too.

Like she's crushing it. She's so hot. Is that her? That's Hannah Goldie. That's her teammate. You've never seen her, B? Come on, let's talk about marketability. Hold on, Hannah Goldie has got something to say.

You've never seen her, B? No, sir. They did a photo shoot together recently. You should probably try to pull that up. That's Hannah Goldie? got something to say. You've never seen her, B? No, sir. They did a photo shoot together recently. You should probably try to pull that up. That's Hannah Goldie? I'm in. They are the most marketable professional sports teammates on the planet right now. I'm an instant fan.

So that's the Miami Strawweights. What in the fuck is going on? You want to problem with that, B? What in the fuck is going on? We have very marketable athletes. Those are all fighters What in the actual fucks is going on two of them are the other two? I don't think so. I think the other two are fighting different. Yeah, so oh And there's a sneak peek at our Miami team logos fan. I'm a fan

How could you not think you're on to something here? But I think too as far as storytelling like even with a guy like Dylan Danis, if you can peel back that, obviously he trolls and does a lot of stuff, he's actually a good kid, a good guy. I keep calling him being one of my kids. He's actually a good guy. When you peel it back and get to his origin story. Let's tell the story. Yes.

I'm in. Let's honor... We've got living legends. Yeah. And let's tell their story. I think sometimes the brand doesn't always want them to become like exit into stratosphere, right?

But like I'm the total opposite. This is, this is a platform for these fighters to tell their story. Let's, let's create LeBron James and Patrick Mahomes of, of MMA fighters. And it's good for everybody. Absolutely. Jesus.

Good for everybody. Jesus. What is that woman's name again? Hannah Goldie. Right. And she's not... Technically her last name is not Goldie. I found that after booking her flight.

But yeah, she goes to hell. Yeah, who cares? Yeah. It's going to be exciting. There's some stuff to watch. Not to mention, we're here in LA, to New York, to Miami, to Sao Paulo. And you're going to get one wrong. It's not Abu Dhabi, it's Dubai.

I always mess that up. Dubai and Abu Dhabi, it's Dubai. God, I always mess that up. Dubai and Abu Dhabi. Similar though. Very close. What are they, 40 minutes away or something? Same region. Is it 40 minutes away?

Very close. You can drive it. No, you can drive it. That whole area, I don't. Yeah. Yeah. But again, like, okay, we're looking to sell our Dubai team for 100 plus million. And there's some guys out there that can afford that.

And there's bragging rights. There are some guys out there. At that too. They don't want to be like, oh, we bought the team for a lower amount. Like they want- Is there salary caps? Like let's say some sheikh from Dubai fucking buys that team. And it was like, I have a hundred billion.

I want Izzy. I want Makhachev. Like, can they do that? They can do that. So how we've set this up is currently right now, because we need to make the fights people want to see. We have to set this up is currently right now, because we need to, we need to make the fights people want to see, like we have to set this up the right way. So we're operating as a single entity right now. So that's why I can move like, what did we do? We moved Luke Rockhold to LA to line up,

make sure that Weidman fight lines up. So we're going to stack the deck at the beginning. And then once it gets to that point of independent team owners, and maybe that's two years away, three years away, but once that happens and that transition shifts over from us kind of manipulating it, how we want to, to make sure the fans get the fights they want, there'll be that transition to them. We want to win and we want the best fighters. And if we have a giant bankroll, which we're looking at billionaire entities to them, we want to win and we want the best fighters. And if we have a giant bankroll, which we're looking at billionaire entities to own these

teams. And billionaires like to win and they're super competitive. You don't think they're going to be pay some bucks for. So we've set it up where there's a, yes, there's a salary cap. Like right now I have my own internal salary cap to be able to operate this in a way that makes sense and that sustainably works. But once that point happens, same thing. And then for those ridiculous next level billionaires, trillionaires that want to spend all the money, great, but do we really want the other teams to

not share in that? So we have it where there's a luxury tax. So like, yes, we want you spending all of your money and paying all of these fighters as much as you can. But when you do that, if you go over your salary cap, you're going to be luxury taxed. And then all the teams that didn't go over their salary cap, they share that pool of money so that they can then also like, oh, we're going to go out and buy this guy, that guy. Wow. It's cool. It's awesome. It's exciting. Well, cause what's cool is that teams will start scouting all this new talent.

The guys in the gyms, everybody's talking about it. buy this guy, that guy. Wow. It's cool. It's awesome. It's exciting. Well, because what's cool is that teams will start scouting all this new talent. The guys in the gyms, everybody's talking about that kind of stuff. Or you can get the Jerry Jones of one of these owners who's, you know, they're scouting and going around to formulate the best. There's a whole strategy to it. If you look at like professional soccer, like English Premier League, you know, Bundesliga, they all kind of, some of the teams have a lot of money and they buy the best.

Yeah. Half of the world. Yeah. Because they want to win. Whether it's a champions league or. Yeah. So it's, it's literally the exact same business model. Yeah.

Baseball, look at the Dodgers. Jesus Christ. They spend. How much money? Pictures making like, you know, a quarter billion dollars. Oh, they're. And their contracts, you know, Patrick

owns half a billion dollars. Yes. Why aren't MMA fighters who are generating hundreds of millions of dollars an event, billions of dollars a year? Why, why aren't they getting to kind of share in that? That's a good question.

I love it. Any other questions, Brian? I like it. I like it. I'm excited. When's the next event? The first event you mean? The first event.

First event. The first next. I keep thinking you went down to call one. Uh, it was the draft. That's right. you mean? The first event. The first event. The first next. I keep thinking you went down to call one. It was the draft. That's right, the draft. We've got holds at the end of April and then early May. Where are you going to have it?

April and LA? LA. You don't know what the venue is? I know what the venue is. You do? Well, we've got a couple of options for the venue. Do you come out the gate hot? Are you like, hey, we're at crypto and like

hoping it sells out or do you go, do you start smaller? That's been the, that's where we're deciding. So like there's also playoff basketball, there's playoff hockey, some of those venues, some of them are exclusivities. So I think we're going to go a little smaller because we're also doing three events in a weekend I don't sell out and turn people away exactly Yeah, so the thing too is I'm hoping to sell the venue out three times in 24 hours Because you know that it's three nights of fights be didn't know yeah, so like you know

Football fan football fan right NFL. What are you doing on Sunday? Chill and you watch some football and we do Monday night, you watch some football. So NFL's off season. This is when we want our bulk of our season to be where on Sunday we'll have back to back competitions. We'll have a daytime fight and a nighttime fight. And then on Monday night, we'll have a Monday nighter. So we're avoiding UFC pay-per-views. We're avoiding most boxing pay-per-views. How did you get into fighting?

What was your background? Were you an athlete? You seen that? Duh. How did you get into fighting? What was your background? Were you an athlete? You seen that? Duh! How dare you? Duh! You see this physique, Brian?

I haven't seen enough of it. And that's the point I'm making. I'll take the hoodie off later. No. Thank god. Thank god. Always into sports. I started off as WWF when it was WWF, where I was just all in on Paul Cogan,

Ultimate Warrior. You're talking about like Macho Man days? Yeah, man. Yeah. Macho Man, Killer Bees, like all the, you know, I had all the figures, like that, like it's what I spent my time doing. Yeah.

Hell yeah. Had the ring, like I was obsessed with that. And then the moment that that kind of changed is when I was, I think I was 13 years old and I saw UFC one on the top shelf. And I was like, think I was 13 years old and I saw UFC one on the top shelf and I was like, is this real fighting? Like you look at the back and it's like, uh,

yeah, uh, who's that Canadian guy from Niagara fall? Anyways, you know, he's got blood running down. I said, you know, Keith Hackney in there and then the Polish, the polar bear, all those guys. Yeah. Paul Varlins. And so that's when the switch hit where I switched from, and I introduced so many people to the UFC. I was obsessed from day one.

I'm practicing rear naked chokes even before I know what it is. Because you're like, oh, hoarse Gracie, like this guy's the man, right? Like Pat Smith just throwing down elbows. And it was that where I got hooked. Also my favorite movie growing up was Bloodsport. Hell yeah. So I think like the C growing up was Blood Sport. Hell yeah. So I think like the Cumete had an effect on, uh. Damn muck.

On my future. Hell yeah. You know, career. And then it was, I played sports forever. I wrestled in elementary school, high school. Um, and then played, uh, junior football, Canadian football, a little bit different, but, um, you know, after I was football career is over.

Was like, you know, what I was football career is over, was like, you know, what do you do to fill the void? And I'd always loved fighting and then an MMA gym opened up and this is still kind of like the early times where like, it wasn't sanctioned everywhere. Um, so I started training and I was like hooked, obsessed.

I was like, I want to be a professional fighter. This is what I'm going to do. So I was training six days a week and I had back injuries and I was like, something's wrong here. Like I just, I had a lot of back pain and then trainer was fine. One day was fine. He's just like, dude, go get an x-ray. Like find out what's actually wrong. I was like, an x-ray? He's like, go get an x-ray. Got an x-ray, found out I had a fractured vertebrae. I needed spinal surgery. They're like, you have to stop doing what you're doing.

My discs and my vertebrae were separating and spinal cords going right through there, so they're like, stop. So that changed the trajectory of my life and what I was going to do. I could show you the foot long scar on my back that I have from- I'd like to see that. Sorry. No, no, no, not right now. Oh, there it is.

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and then it turned out I'm a pussy. Then you saw your Romero. I saw your old Romero. I saw Yo Romero. I was gonna be a professional, I just didn't have the speed or the strength, but other than that. No, you gotta be like a specimen. Or the technique, or the ability to practice all the time. Or the lungs for it.

So yeah, I loved the sport, still wanted to be involved with it after the surgery. I was just like, what do I do now? And it was kind of like, it was like the only event we really had that I went to live was like a king of the cage. And it was ghetto. Where like, there's Home Depot lights

like clamped onto the side of the cage. We're in like a hockey venue. It's freezing cold. The fighters like going out to fight. It's just like looking there and being there. I was like, I can do something better than this. Oh, fuck yeah. What was harder on your body,

would you say overall, football or MMA? Because football, you're getting cracked. Football is a car accident after car accident. Yeah, football might be, right? Yeah, probably football. Just the impact. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, football.

Because you've got like, when you have a helmet on, you feel invincible. It's just that your knees, when you have a helmet on, you feel invincible. It's just that your knees, your body, I was like, you watch them get hit. Your it's constant. It's tough. Yeah. That's wild, man. So yeah, I've got into promoting, just started at 24 years old.

I started my first promotion incorporated and I had to fight a legal battle before. Cause section 83 of the Canadian criminal code prevented prize fighting unless there's an athletic commission that could sanction it. The athletic commissions, they didn't have the language for MMA in the actual- Boxing. In it, so it was all just like boxing commission.

So I'm like, I'm lobbying the Victoria athletic commission to adopt MMA. And then like, I found a little gray area loophole where it was I honestly think like the first few events I put on were probably technically illegal I brought in like an athletic commission to oversee it we were on society land so I was trying to like just creative man like I wouldn't be stopped like to make it happen you have a lot of passion I can tell you I love this

I like that I like your passion for this you know I think you have a lot of passion. I can tell. I love this. And I like that. And I like your passion for this. I think you have to have it. People who are visionaries, there's no reason why you can't be the first person to come up with a fight league that actually sticks. It was truly just the love of the sport and then just learning. Also, I think the difference about me is most of these other promotions, they're using investors' money. They use somebody else's money,

which if you're gambling with somebody else's money, do you gamble the same way? I use my own money. I had to be profitable or else I wouldn't be able to survive. So I learned from that, like, grassroots, I did everything. I would put our cage together, I would do all the matchups,

I'd pick up the fighters from the fly I'd set up our Taping our gauze in the change rooms like it's gonna sound really weird But when I met you you don't have that owner slash promoter Minus no, it's not the slime is you just have you look like a guy who puts his hands on shit for real Like I don't know why I just know I went. oh, I was like I was expecting somebody different you looked Just like more physical more. I don't know maybe you're younger than I thought I don't know what it is But I just think like I relate to these guys because I feel like I'm one of you right like this isn't a oh I see myself up here and look at all the listen when you're an entrepreneur

I always say this when you're an entrepreneur when you are responsible for your own brand you I You can't compare it to somebody who's got a corporation behind them or it's just you're an entrepreneur, I always say this, when you're an entrepreneur, when you are responsible for your own brand, you can't compare it to somebody who's got a corporation behind them. It's just, you're always hustling, man. You're always hustling. You've always, if you're not working all the time, you're dying, so. What time was I sending texts to you last night? Yeah.

Oh man, late. I didn't wake up till this morning. 3 a.m. Yeah, this morning I got it. And like, I will not stop. I'm relentless. I will grind. up till this morning. 3 AM. Yeah, this morning I got. And like, I will not stop. I'm relentless. I will grind. This will be successful without a doubt.

The TV deals we have coming on board, like this will be able to see any, like we're starting doing fighter visas and, you know, like some of these athletes need letters from prominent people. So I'm talking to one of our trainers in Sweden yesterday. He's like, oh, oh yeah, we've got letters coming for Alexander Gustafsson.

I was like, oh cool. That guy's a badass. Dude, like the, and so he's telling me too, he's like, everyone in Sweden's talking about this. I'm like, everyone in Sweden's talking about the GFL. Everyone in Sweden is talking about the GFL. Amazing. I love it.

Great. Cause I want to see him fight. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is writing one of the letters for Alexander God I'm like it's not that like I'm a huge latin fan and then the other one the owner of Spotify Wow is writing his visa letter. Yeah, you know how this you know the sponsorship think words right Swedish Like my brother-in-law who's Swedish knows everything about Gustafson. They are there. He's talking to us out there Oh, yeah billboards of them You want to take a cookie break right now?

Sure, okay. We got cookies well cuz post Malone came out with an Oreo and I just saw it Yeah, I don't want to be distracted by that and I want to fucking post Malone Oreo We do here we try new fast food new cookies and stuff and when post Malone came out with a new Oreo He said it was gonna be the best tasting Oreo ever. And I'm not gonna lie to you guys, it does not taste like Bud Light and cigarettes. It's probably the best cookie I've ever had. All right, let's see.

Best cookie you've ever had. Because Toll House cookies are my shit, but all right. No, no, no, this is salted caramel and shortbread. Because he has a photo shoot. Darren has a naked photo shoot after this. Brian, you said that was going to remain private. It is going to remain private. I apologize. I'm so excited about it. And that oil that you got?

I got that oil, yeah. That's not the brand. Well, it's whale oil, so it's going to smell a little bit strong. But I harpooned the whale myself. Go ahead. Go ahead and tell me that cookie's not good. It's a good cookie Is it the best or you're gonna give ever had the best Oreo cookie you've ever had? Post for nice come sing the national anthem at the first GFL event very much

That's got some was by a team posty. No. Hey, man. Hey, baby. He is. Hey, man. Maybe he is baby wants to You never know Do you dare to dream like that? That's another thing? Hey, maybe he is. Hey, man. Maybe he is. Maybe he wants to. Hey, man. You never know. Dude, dare to dream. Like that's another thing. You can do anything you want in this world. You have to put the time, effort and energy and you got to be real about what it is you're trying to do.

But I have seen this vision so clearly during the, like during the pandemic was, is when I started putting my mind to this and just started putting the work in figuring out, dude, it's been rough like trying to raise money in post-pandemic and it's a big lift like this isn't a small thing we're doing here anything like this is close to it anything like this is close to impossible and guess what it's worth it well there's a reason 100 what do you want to do with your life someone's gonna get around do nothing or do you want to try to do the coolest thing you could possibly do with your life also someone's gonna do it and do nothing or do you want to try to do the coolest thing you could possibly do with your life? Also, someone's gonna do it if you don't.

Like, why not you? It's inevitable. And anybody who did anything like this, including Dana White, how many times do people say to Dana, it's never gonna work? How many times do people say to Elon Musk, your Tesla's gonna fail, SpaceX is gonna fail?

It's one thing after another. And anybody who does anything is constantly dealing with everybody saying you're crazy. That's impossible Here are the thousand reasons it can't work and you have to be the one to say I know but there's one reason it will work The nose are way more motivating than any small. Yes, they have and That's like the drive that you get when someone's like, no, whatever reason, no. Yeah. It's like, thank you for the motivation. Did you ever hear of Stephen Jobs?

Yeah. It's rockin' to feel. Stephen Jobs said his name. You talking about Steve Jobs? Steve Jobs. Sorry, buddy. Stephen. I call him Stefan.

Do you know Stefano Jobs? I think it's Jobé. Stefano Jobé. That guy said, I guess his epiphany moment was he goes, when I realized that everything around me, the whole world was made by people who were no smarter than I was, that they just figured it out,

but they had the same doubts. But that's the other thing he is. But he said, but he was like, once I realized that I could do this too, like why not me? It opened up. You can architect this world however you want. You just literally have to know what you're trying to do

and put the necessary work and effort into it. And obviously different things that you want to do take a different amount of work and effort and you know, and all that. So I think he's living example of like, shit, you can pull off anything. Who would Brennan Schaub fight? Why you doing this Brennan Shob fight? Why you doing this man? What happened?

What happened? We could definitely have some good shot fights. Yeah they have some big boys. Fabricio Verduin. Get him a smaller guy. I'm on the outsides man. Get him a smaller guy. No sir.

No maybe a Romero fight if he wants. Oh yeah. Well no. No don't be like that slap fight guy. No no no. Little Frankie Meir maybe. I love Frank. What else you got Chen?

Who would Brian Callen fight? You know that guy from the movie? Well, no, no, I don't be like this lap bite guy. No, no. No. Well Frankie Meir maybe I love Frank. What else you got? Yeah Mark Zuckerberg, I'd watch that. Yeah Mark's gonna he's gonna have his hands full to be honest with you. He's the same size We're not the same size. I think How much does Zuck weigh, Chin? No, Zuck would not be the favorite. He's on TRT now, Darren. But like, let's get Zuck into own a team.

Yeah, Zuck should own a team. 100% he should. But I would fight Mark Zuckerberg. I would train and it's all good. Five seven, you're five 11. He's not a real. Yeah, don't ever say that to me, okay? I figure you guys are similar.

Do you? Elon would be a better size-wise. No. Elon's big. But I like him. Do you? Elon would be a better size wise. No. Elon's big. Elon's six one. No, Elon's taller. Elon's taller. And he's got long, he's a big Dutchman. He's a big boy. Well, he has those like lunch lady hips.

No, Elon's half South African, half Canadian, like myself. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, you're South African Canadian? My mom's from South Africa. My dad's from Canada. And then the other way around for him, his, my mom's from South Africa. My dad's from Canada And then the other way around for him his his mom's oh wow So the first thing I said when I saw you was I was like Africa I thought about most people think that you know see the ginger beard and Yeah, my son's coloring. It's great. I love it. All right, you can give some current event

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fighter that's like a very famous named fighter, right? That's that didn't sign with PFL or Bellator, but then suddenly they signed with GFL out of nowhere yeah which is insane so there must be a ton of money that's something there must be a ton of money but then I stopped it there but also though the main signing that I thought was insane was Chris Weidman because he literally just retired and then boom like another so Ray Longa he retired from the UFC yeah and I think that's kind of what some people are thinking, oh, he retired from MMA.

No, same thing. Like you were saying earlier, right? He retired from the UFC and you know, like heck yeah, we want wide men, like white, white men. Like, and the other thing people don't realize, like there's only a handful of managers that have the vast majority of these bigger name players. So it's having those relationships, having those relationships for 10, 15 years.

So I'm not just some random guy out of nowhere that's like, hey, we're starting a new fight thing. Come sign a contract with us. It's like, hey brother, we know each other. Here's what we're doing. But I also think for guys like Chris Widebear, Tony Ferguson, like standing in the UFC, there's no cake walks in the UFC. Like, you're not going to get favorable matchups. Like, it's just the way their business model is. It's like, you can stay there.

Maybe you have three fights left. You can stay there. They're going to use this young line to steal your fame. And he's going to beat it out of you. So you can stay there. Go ahead. But you're going to be fighting a guy you probably don't know from Dagestan or fucking Brazil. He's a savage right or You can retire from the UFC come to GFL make make bank and fight a guy

That's similar to your skill set right now instead of just getting fed to the fucking wolves You know because they want to keep fighting and they have a lot to offer It's like the same thing like this if you're in the NFL and you're like, you know, those guys that, you know, get cut halfway through this, like you don't think they're ballers. Yeah. And you know, you don't think they can go hang and play football

somewhere else if there was like another league that kind of made sense for them to go. Of course you could. Yes. So I have a question for you, Darren. I was, I'm a WWE nerd too. So it's kind of sounds like you're almost making a new Monday Night War.

Little WWF versus WCW. There's definitely a professional wrestling element to this right now where it's like, hey, someone wants to start dating Taylor Swift? Amazing. Let's do those kind of things too where it's, Let's do those kinds of things too, where it's. Let's stories. Yeah, let's do some fun stuff. Let's, let's cross some, some barriers.

Like as soon as this thing gets from like the MMA hard cores, knowing about it, talking about it to sports fans, whether you're a Dodgers fan, Lakers fan, now you're in LA GFL, we got the team names and stuff, we're about to drop those, but I have to like bite my tongue before I like say the team name. Um, but like that, that's, that's part of the

strategy. It's bring in sports fans where it's easier to follow. It's like, oh, we have 20 fighters on the LA team. Well, shit. Okay. I can figure that out. Like, is it that hard?

And then, oh, we're, we're, we're fighting the, the Sao Paulo team. Okay. Well, yeah, I hope this American beats up that Brazilian because he's on our team and they're on their team. Right. I love it.

I'm excited. I'm excited about this. Also before the show started, Jim brought in these homemade meatballs. What were they? A bison and bison, Italian sausage, Parmesan, parsley, what am i but chopper I didn't know but right so believe right I saw it and what did I

do to be treated with such a lack of respect you know what happened I don't know who this man is I brought an eight or he was something I don't know telling Darren arguably the greatest comedy of all time agree the hangover thank you hangover to say hangover to you know I wasn't even here And I can hangover and make you the star and hangover three is what they finally somebody says it yeah Here's the thing though. Yeah, they're forget all those other guys I agree all the what guys Bradley Cooper who am I right fucking my career is like old news doing this right now To the moon, baby, like yeah, yeah I didn't notice how I stopped myself from really standing because I don't want to look like you on Musk.

My career's really moved. Stop doing that with your hand. Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry. But chin. Turn your hand this way. But chin told me, it was the keto meatballs. You know, I'm on carnivore keto. You are?

I put so much attention to it to make it keto. So it's very low carb. It was like. That's fine. But what? So I ate all seven before you got it. God damn it, I knew you did. I couldn't say.

I couldn't stop. You couldn't stop there Were that good? My best meatballs I've got ahead I'm gonna make some I'm gonna make some more. That's the first time I did so I'll make some more for when you Do you have a girlfriend boyfriend? I don't know how it works, but what? They were fantastic wow meatballs are like dry and no flavor Oh, yeah, and low sodium marinara sauce. I think about everything, you know?

I drank the marinara. Really? That good. I'm all starving. All right, what do you got, Jen? Meatballs, tummy full. I feel great. Okay, so I don't know how I missed

the Super Bowl commercial, guys, but do you guys see when Seal was a seal? Yeah. Oh, you didn't see this one? I didn't see this one. It was great. Say this. I can't play the actual, too much of the music.

It's for Bob last night. That's hilarious. It's definitely probably the best commercial. An actual seal with my head on it. That is so awful but fitting and hilarious. Look at him there. He had to act like a seal. It works. I guess Taika Wait Oh, that's so good. He had to act like a seal.

Oh, it works. I guess Tycho YTC. That's a great ad. Do we know why his name's Seal? Well, I was just wondering. I don't know, but pitching that to him would be very dicey. Hey, watch this. We go to his agent first.

Listen, so we have an idea for Mountain Dew. You would be a seal. So we'll put your head on top of a seal, and we'll color coordinate the seal. But I think he's old enough, not like if you had done it at the beginning of his career, he'd be like, absolutely not. But he's pretty self-centered. Also, Super Bowl commercial, how much money they pay him.

Correct. Correct. How did he get those scars? Was that a burn? Burn, I remember. He was in a burn fire thing. That's what I read. No, I think that's what they do.

I don't know what his culture is. You mean a tribal thing? Yeah, a tribal thing. I don't think so. Or is it an acting style? I thought it was acting. I don't know what his culture is, but. You mean a tribal thing? Yeah, a tribal thing. I don't think so. Or is it an acting style? I thought it was acting. I don't think he's from Africa. No, I don't think so.

He's British as it gets. We don't know much about seal, do we? Nevermind. Autoimmune disease that affects the skin. Okay. Lupus. Lupus. Ooh.

Notice small spots on his face that worsen over time. Oh, man. Hey, man, that worsen over time. Oh man. Hey man, he had Heidi Klum for a minute. Yeah, she's long. Gorgeous. Not bad. God, Lupus sucks, man. She was like, he's actually a tribal designer.

I didn't say tribal, Brian brought up tribal, but I thought it was something that they did. Because it's like perfectly like. He's from an obscure tribe in Africa from the 60s. That we. It was the Lupus tribe? Yeah. The Dinka and the 60s. The Lupus tribe? Yeah. The Dinka and the Nua of Sudan actually scar their face.

Yeah, people do scar their bodies. Yeah, but it's more designer than that. Correct. His is a little, you know. Hey, you know what? It's good that we learned. Good. The more you know.

His song is such a banger. His what? That song. He's great. Such a banger. He's great. He sang on that Western, that Black Western. It was on Netflix, I think.

It was really good with Jonathan Majors. And it was, but he was one of the, did the soundtrack, he sang one of the songs, that's banging, great song. You know what song that is. I definitely don't. No, you know what I'm talking about. I know you did Batman Forever, Kids From Arrows.

You know, it was a hit on Netflix. Talking about Django? No, it was the Western. With all black guys? Yes. A hard pass. Jonathan Major. Oh.

Come on. Crazy age or something? It was such a good, it was actually really good. No. B, did you see a trailer on this on TikTok? No, no, no, I watched the movie. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to find it for you here, buddy.

The Harder They Fall. Very good movie, man. Did you not see that? That's a good movie. I recommend that highly. It was just All Black Cowboys? Yes. And it's fucking really good.

It came out during COVID, so nobody believed it. But bro, it's a banger. I'm going to pass. Banger, man. Really, honestly. And his song is which one? Away with the Wind She Goes, you wanna hear it? Is that from him, though?

It says it's from the movie. I know, but no, Brian's talking about Seal saying the main song. And I'm saying he didn't. Okay, let's just take a little quick listen. I bet Seal didn't. No, he did. I don't think this is the song, that's not the song.

Can you type in Seal and the harder they fall? Yeah, if you go, yeah. I don't think this is the song. That's not the song. Can you type in Seal and the harder they fall? Yeah, if you go, I don't want to because I would, I like to bet. I would assume seals not on this soundtrack. Oh no, he is. He's dizzy. Yeah. I can send it to you, but it popped up immediately. So let's see.

Seal ain't no better love. This is a great. That must be it then. Listen to him. Let's wait for this ad to go through. Is this the one, Brian? Yeah. Listen to him sing. I mean, it sounded dope.

Yeah, it sounds good. Almost as good as the GFL, Six Sides of the Cage, Protect Your Neck song. Oh damn, do you have a song? Oh, we got a song. Have you not seen it, B? Is it on here? Is it on the YouTube? It should be. I know it's on Spotify. 6 sides of the cage, protect your next song. Oh damn, do you have a song? Oh we got a song. Let me hear that.

Is it on here? Is it on the YouTube? It should be, I know it's on Spotify. Bring that shit up. Bring that shit up. Spotify or YouTube? It's on Spotify for sure. Okay, why don't you Spotify?

6 sides of the cage. It was our AI which has been polarizing, some people love it, some people hate it, which is great. But like, it's an all AI song. 6 sides of the cage. Yeah, I like that six sides of the cage It's an AI song. Yeah. Oh damn. We're obviously we don't have content of these fighters So we have to kind of get a little creative. Yeah, other than just static images. Yes to do something with You can't get it. Baba O'Rilly, by the who? My computer just froze. So I just got so many people trying to download.

I know it's so many people. It's crash. It's like what when you do. That's what happens. So many people trying to download that song. Hold on. Here we go. Oh, my God. Oh, God. Oh my god. Oh god. I'll just play 666 same thing. We were gonna think of that name but we switched it up. Yeah 666. Let me see if it exists on YouTube then real quick.

Is it on the GFL Twitter or X? Potentially. No. No, it's crazy to see like different memes of people like making stuff from it now and having fun with it. Oh yeah. Well, let's know when you get it, Jen. All right, gotcha. Just don't worry about the it, Jen. All right. Gotcha. Just don't worry about the screen.

Yeah. All right. What else you guys got? Okay. So apparently Cardi B is calling out Trump because his secret service scuffed up her $3,000 Louboutins and now she's demanding that her uncle who was deported be returned as payback. Oh man, I bet we got a video.

I bet all of us really care and I'm sure Trump is like, oh no, now I gotta deal with Cardi B. Well, apparently she went rampant on her Instagram live. Oh no. Cardi B went rampant. Remember when they paid her to do a speech and she forgot the words? And she was like waiting for the script? She's uh, yeah man. Let me hear what Cardi B has to say about the words. Alright, time. Oh my god. She is either disclosed that information. She kind of makes me laugh. I don't

let me refresh. This is perfect. You watch the Super Bowl? Yeah. Were you surprised at the outcome? I think I was surprised how big of a blowout it was and how non-competitive the game was. Not much of a game. Did it work, Chin? I was so f***ing mad today. Because...

You know Donald Trump and s***. He was at the Super Bowl today. And they was giving us a hard time. Oh my god. Because Trump was there. Look how f**ked up my shoes. Look at my shoes. She's so funny.

She's just eating? She's so funny. Look at her silly goose. She's a silly goose. Traditional thing has been said. Alright, well there you go. I think they put a commercial in between her continuously talking. Look at my shoes.

But yeah, she keeps going on and on about it. But she's a character. She's a character. She's great. Listen, don't forget where she came from. Yeah, she cracked me up actually. But she's awesome. Love and hip hop. Yeah. She's awesome to me. Here's a good one.

We go to the next one. So state representatives are pretty much trying to put together this legislative bill introduced in Mississippi that says if you plan on having sex and if you plan on exiting any sort of fluid from your body that is the point of conception. They can fuck off. Yeah that's not gonna last. Also who's gonna hold up to those rules? Keep your fucking religion out of my fucking bedroom. It says our bill would make it illegal to discharge semen or genetic material without the intent of fertilizing an embryo. Hey, you fucking won't get laid, bitch.

Hey, okay. Bitch. Hey, no problem, splurge. What a bunch of fucking nerds. What a waste of time. There's some wild things happening. Yeah. Like all over the place right now.

So a lot of these things that make- Like the pendulum's swung too far one way, swinging back. So the way this shit works is that on the house, you can always introduce any bill you want to the house. Wild stuff. And the house just goes, what is this? Yeah, okay, cool. They don't even vote on it,

but whenever some idiot does this, it just makes the news. It's usually a Trojan horse or something else they're trying to promote. They know damn well that won't pass. Well that USAID money, that's what it is. It's like what is going on here? This one is wild to me.

Yeah, the USAID is also more nuanced, right? My friend has this expression, if you're gonna cast a net that big, make sure you don't catch too many dolphins, right? So, because USAID actually does, first of all, it's a very small part of the US budget, but it does do some good work.

There are people, I know several of them, who have been out there forever, that don't make any money, they're in war-torn countries, and they actually do some shit. Is there waste? Yes. Is there a lot of fraud? Fuck yeah.

Is this a good idea? Yeah, but it's okay to say they do some good things, but it's also okay to highlight what Elon's doing. There's a shit ton of fraud that we can clean up. Exactly. And Whittles gets the Pentagon. Whittles gets NIH. Oh, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Oh, dude. And it's about time. And I think- But as an American, why wouldn't you want them to clean up the waste tax money? Do you know what our budget is? Do you know what our deficit is?

A trillion? What'd you say? A trillion something? it's 36 trillion? That's you could just throw out it like who do you guys are 36,000 billion dollars like it's All these companies that owe or countries that owe other countries billions or trillions of dollars Is there like a balance sheet for well the balance sheet is the problem is we owe a lot of American companies and a lot Of American entities that money. It's fucking nuts.

So it's about time we get rid of all this ridiculous fraud, this irregular payments and we shrink government. So this happened in 2016 and Ikea is going to probably bring it back. They launched a black hot dog. I don't know if they're bringing that back to us. Well, no, from other articles I've read called a ninja dog, dude Yeah, the bun and sausage both contain edible bamboo I'm a big hot dog nerd. I don't know if I could eat this eat that big black hot dog

But scroll down a little bit. You'll see some of the comments. Look at look at that second comment. Look at that There you go. Look at our buddy Jeff Jeff dice great someone said Kim Kardashian running to grab it Look at our buddy Jeff. Jeff dies. Great. Someone said Kim Kardashian running to grab it. When your buddy sends you like says random video and you're like, why are you sending me this? And they're like, read the comments.

Someone wrote nice try diddy. Like, yeah, I'm good on the BBC bluesy. Someone said, Durn Black History Month. Somebody goes, who leaked my shit? I thought that was good. I don't know if those are going to hit the streets of America though. Just a big foot long black hot dog. It's also too skinny. I think we need some some girth man. I don't like skinny hot dogs

Yeah, we have fat black It's just a big juicy BBC big black like, but, ah, ah, man. Maybe they come up with a corndog, big black corndogs. You imagine your girl orders that, I'm like, why don't you just get the regular hot dog? Do you have to have the big black broad? I was like, I want the big one.

I want the triple B. I want some I'm not used to. I want the triple B. Nah, let's just stick with the regular size hot dog that's flesh colored. Holy shit, Backstreet Boys, oh my god, they're coming back. They're going to the Sphere, They got a residency at the sphere guys People are expecting big numbers here If you're under if you're over 50 and looking for a lady friend go to that

Have you ever seen when they had their live audiences? It just looks like everyone's mom or grandma's in the crowd and they sell tickets She you're at the Sphere for UFC. Did you see a concert there? I didn't go to the Sphere. No, I gave my tickets to my brother-in-law. Oh, your brother-in-law. That's what it was. So I just want to know anybody who's been to the Sphere, seen it like that, what's the

musical experience like there? That's what it's made for. It's made for that. Like they have the Eagles there. That's so cool. Who else was there? The fucking, there's some big bands. Eagles?

U2 was there. U2 was there. That's a big one I'd like to see Coldplay there well my last one here is just a reminder to all three of you in this room that Valentine's Day is coming up yes always forget it's Friday thank God I'm in Minnesota so I mean Yahoo you're telling me all the nice things together she's the best you're saying she's the best human being you've ever met in your entire life. You know it, Darren. You know it.

Just from what he said, he was just speaking so highly of her and, Thank you, buddy. Thank you for understanding. I think Ali's changed her life forever. Yes. Are you married, kid? I cry sometimes. Yeah, I've been with my wife since I was 20 years old.

Oh, wow. So 20 years. That's crazy. I'll show you. She's smoking. Really? I'd like to see it. That sounds good. How many kids have I sent you off? One kid, seven years old. Tyson. I'll show you she's Smoking really I'd like to see it

One kid seven years old Tyson shout out Tyson. Oh, I love you You know, maybe had some influence on the box or growing up might have might have I love it Yeah, so Yahoo came out with a list of some things if you want to scroll down most of them make kind of sense I'd back most and keep going down just go down if you can go down to the one I'm at. Talk about a made-up holiday. I mean I hate to tell you. Stop. I swear to God if any of you buy your wife a beanie with a light on it I will lose my mind. She would punch me in the- yeah good. Big- for some reason Yahoo says this is a great gift for Valentine's Day. Well think about writing this article some warlock lady. It's good for burglaring I would think. I don't right some warlock lady. It's good for burglaring, I would think. I don't.

I like that. You turn it off, sneak into where you gotta get to. Yeah, if she's a big outdoor man. And good for spelunking. I would like that. It's caving. Chin would like it. Chin, what do you do for Valentine's Day?

Any Valentine's Day lovers out there for you? I suck at that shit, dude. We all do. This has been an all do what's going on here? Since you asked Halloween the last time when my Last like long-term relationship. She's like, oh should we just not give give each other presents for Valentine's like that's good She gave me a an amazing Keurig with like, you know, all these coffee pods stuff. I bought nothing.

I suck at this shit dude, I'm terrible. That was the- It's always a setup. It's always a setup. I suck at that stuff. Most guys do. All right, so what else? That's it.

And for what it's worth, I actually don't like Valentine's Day. I'd rather get a gift on Halloween. It's just the forcedness of it. That's my idea. That's what I don't like. It Day. I'd rather get a get-a-get on Halloween. So it's just the force-ness of it. Yeah Yeah, that's what I don't like. It was invented by Hallmark. So yeah, that's they were genius about it But it's like now I have to get something. It's like what is it? What's this holiday represent? I have to spend a hundred thousand dollars on a diamond bracelet Is that it Jin Jin? Hold on. Let me see. I think there's something I have here.

Come on, Brian, for a man of your stature, 100k? A mere pittance. Buddy, that's the point, you know? And it's true. It's true. I bought my wife a diamond bracelet and my neighbor was a billionaire. I bought his wife a diamond bracelet and it was $100,000. And I was like, he's a billionaire.

That's nice. He was like, that is nice. I was like, ah, diamond billionaire. That's nice. He was like, that is nice. I was like, Oh, so I see time raising. He fucked me. And his wife's like, look at mine. And my wife was like, that's shiny and larger.

And it was like levels to the game. I was like, well, all right. What's this, Jen? So this is in Las Vegas. It's a, an elderly couple in a car and then some two motorcycle guys. We don't know what happened. It's, it's road rage though, right? So the motorcycle guys try to stop them and then

this is what ensued. Hopefully I can like play the entire clip, but it's long. I got to stop the music cause it's going to get flagged, but you see them, the motorcycle guys are cut You know, they're in front of the car now, right? I'm trying not let them go forward. Well, they're also on a red light And then this risky move on a motor. There's like two girls recording this. Yeah, cuz it can only just run you over Yeah car. Oh So these guys get out now these more sick or one of the motorcycle guys gets out and starts confronting the car

I guess everything won't do to me. I So they're calling the police right now You know, what's up right yes, you know what's up Gran Torino he're about to do. They're about to get shot is what's gonna happen. You know what's up, right? He's an old man from Gran Torino. He's about to fucking pull out a Glock. So he pulls out a gun. Yeah, the old dude pulls out a gun. Yeah, motherfuckers.

And then the guy. The ultimate equalizer. Yeah, what's up? The motorcycle just like puts his hands up. He has a gun. His buddy's filming it. Now this guy's all, you know. His buddy's filming it.

Silver gun in his left hand. Oh my God, I'm shaking. I have it all on video. We. Oh my god I'm shaking. I have it all on video. We're on, we're literally stopped at the bike on Rancho MOP. Bro, hey, get back, get back. Also you're on motorcycles. Look at this, look at this.

And look at, this is the part that I was like oh my god dude. So there's a fire truck that rolls up and they, the motorcyclists who stop the guy are asking for help from the fire truck people. It's so small and the guys on the motorcycles just flagged down a firefighter. Firefighters like is there a fire? The guy's not that the guy's not that old. Need CPR yet?

The video is taking a whole minute. So regardless so I saw other like like angles the footage. It's an old dude. He's like at least 67 years old and his wife, she's also like seven years old, just sitting in the passenger seat, just like scared. Just didn't even care. Like, get that gun ready to go. Yeah, you got a gun.

But did they do anything to the old guy? They should be like, yeah, young kids, quit talking shit to this old guy. Like what happened? I don't know. It was just, but I'm seeing these guys like flag down the fire after they're trying to like yeah first of all they're kind of being bullies so

big-time bullies yeah you know there's different angles guys alone those guys like all right we come this red light honey head desk clip is way honey be ready to go yeah what's up now I did two tours in nom fuck these guys what works is a friend. Oh, this was interesting Yes, so this is interesting Eric Nick says his next egg So he goes this is him on aerial talking about Sean Strickland So he saw Sean Strickland said coach he was I think he needs to evaluate what he wants to do in the sport If it's just to make money, that's great. Let us know. I want to coach world champions

So my motivations are different so I think that just to kind of show up and do that and not really back it up to me was just kind of on inspiring that's his head coach drama yeah that's very interesting if you're strictly not fuck mmm that's interesting did you get that from the from the performance yes you did I also, I also don't know, like he also doesn't have the skillset to die on a shield. It's just not what he does. Right. So it's kind of like for Nick's sake, who I absolutely adore and I love him. I think he's one or two best coaches in the game. Like I would ask him like what, so for Strickland, what's your definition of dying on your shield? What would,

what, like what would satisfy him? Did he want him to be more aggressive? Did he want him to? He was like, you're doing the same thing you did in the first fight. So maybe take more chances, cause you know, but it's just like, you're talking to a guy who's a volume puncher that throws ones and twos and deep kicks.

He's not a power puncher. He's not going to take him down. He's not a finisher. So you're asking a guy that doesn't have the skill set to do something that's totally out of his skill set. That he's never, he's never done before. You got like- He doesn't do it. I don't know what you do. When you're watching a guy that doesn't have the skill set to do something that's totally out of his skill set. That he's never done before. He doesn't do it. I don't know what you do.

When you're watching a fight and you know you're losing a fight, you got to do something. I've heard cornered men all the time just desperately pleading like, go, go, go. It's inevitable. You know what's going to happen. So why not throw a flying knee? Why not just get crazy, get wild, get in a scramble? Do something to create an opportunity to actually win. It's when you just...

I guess what you could, if you're Knicksick, I would have told Strickland that fifth round, I'm like, buddy, clearly he's not gonna be your Romero and just throw Kosh to the wind and just let all hang out. Be like, our number one goal for this round, you're down the scorecards four to zero. Number one goal, Don't step back

I'm gonna fuck what he does what he's throwing. You don't step back Just go forward your only goal is not step back and hopefully we land something just throw but for people like oh He should have shot he should done. It's just not yeah Just create something. It's like I guess is he ever wrestled has he done ever shot on anybody? Yeah, no, not just create something. So I guess he's ever wrestled. Has he done ever shot on anybody? Yeah, he's shot, but it's just not his cup of tea. Especially not against a guy that strong. Which is not what he does. Yeah.

Is that it? That's it. Darren, we know you're a busy man. Got a lot of stops to make, dude. It's been a busy week. Darren has training to do, okay? He's got to go train. Well, he has a lead to run. And a lead to make, dude. It's been, uh, it's been a busy week. So Aaron has training to do. Okay. He's got to go train. Well, he has a, he has a lead to run and a lead to run.

Yeah. I got teams to sell to billionaires. I know, dude. So you go for, what's the schedule? Like go from here? Uh, well like this month. So I've been in Vancouver, New Orleans, Dallas, Phoenix, Salt Lake City and LA.

So the team that we sold is in one of those cities. Wow. You are a puzzle. You are amazing. Are we going to get like one big announcement or is it going to be? So we signed the term sheet. We got to go through due diligence. And then once it's done that, which I don't anticipate any issues with,

then we'll obviously we'll announce. And when do we expect to get the hard announcement of the fight date in April? For sure by next week, hopefully by the end of this week. There we go. And then most of the fights, because whatever happens in this first month of fights, dictates what happens in the next month of fights. Yes. And there's been movement

within the roster based on, you know, from where they were drafted to you, because like, we're getting feedback of like, I didn't know Rockhold and Weidman really both wanted to fight each other, but when they come, come at me with like, Hey, we want to fight each other. Cool. Like I, I like the fight.

Why not? Yeah. Let's, if it's logical and it makes sense, let's do it. Like my job, and this is kind of what's happening right now is like some of these guys, some of them are amazing and they're like, we want the big fights.

We want, we want the big names. Like let's do the logical thing for the, you know, the promotion side of it. Fantastic. And then other guys are like, I don't want to fight that guy. I want to fight, you know, cause there's, there's two guys on each team.

So then there's 10 other potential fights that they could fight within their weight category and some of these guys don't want to fight some of these other guys. Why? Tough fights. Yeah. You want to fight Gagard Musasi? No, no, I do not. A lot of people sign up to fight Gagard.

Not a lot of people put like, yeah, yeah, give me that Gagard fight. It's been a tough fight. No. He's still got a lot of fight left in him. Oh yeah. I have to do what makes the most sense. Yeah. So it's like, okay, I'll take your feedback, but at the end of the day, and that's how our

contract is structured. It's a business decision, yeah. Drawing gay guard or you're Al Romero, fuck off. The 49ers can't say, oh, we don't want to go and play Philadelphia next week, right? No, no, no. So there is none of that. Yeah, you're a pro.

You're getting paid well. We're paying these guys well. They're getting a rev share. They're getting taken care of. This isn't like, oh, you know, we're taking care of these guys. You fight who you need to fight. And if you don't want to, if you don't want to, no problem. I'll give you a release. Walk away. Who is fighting Gagart? He's the Riddler. Derek Brunson. That's theiddler. Derrick Brunson. That's the fight. And if Derrick Brunson doesn't want that fight. That's good fight.

He can, he can go. Yeah. Uh, I think it's a, the most logical fight we can make at middleweight. Yep. We've got some. They both have a lot of fights left in them. Both of them. Douglas Lima, Uriah Hall.

Two of the kick masters. That's a great fight. That's very intriguing. So let's make the fights that- Are they fighting at 70 or 85? Well, they'll fight at 200, so they don't have to cut weight. Damn.

So all of our guys go up weight. Yeah, Lima was a huge 170 pounder. He was huge. Yeah, so he's been 185 for a while, but that fight will be at 200. And if they want to do catch weight, and they're like, hey, we're both walking around at 211, fight at 211, fight at 210. I don't care. Jesus. Yeah, why not? It doesn't matter. You're fighting that guy.

Doesn't matter. Like, so we'll make the catchweights of whatever weight. We don't care. That's going to be really cool to see those guys healthy and just hydrated and just- They've had time off, right? They've had time to recover from injuries, get their heads right, maybe train some different stuff. So it's not like they're, Oh, we're in fight camp or in fight camp or waiting for the call, waiting for the call. It's, Oh, our injuries are healed. You know, like who doesn't want to see Alexander Gustafson come back and fight? Oh yeah. Maybe he's fighting Ovin St. Proulx. I't know. Oh, damn! Maybe we're making some... Tony Ferg, Dylan Danis, what's up New York?

That one we gotta figure out the weight a little bit. But I think... We'll figure it out. Well we appreciate you brother, Godspeed. Bloomington, Minnesota, if you're at the House of Comedy, Minneapolis, I'll be there. This weekend, 13th, 14th, 15th.

Miami, Florida, at the Dania Improv, I'll be there this weekend, 13th, 14th, 15th. And then Miami, Florida, and the Dania Improv, I'll be there February 20, 21, and 22. See you then. All right, brother. Darren, GFL. Let's go. Good luck, brother. GFL, LFG.

We're out. It's good, buddy.