The Fighter & The Kid - Jason Mayhem Miller | TFATK Ep. 970

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Jason Mayhem Miller joins the show and the guys talk Jason's iconic fights and infamous history, how Jason turned his life around, hosting Bully Beatdown on MTV, influencer boxing, his thoughts on up and coming MMA fighters, current events around the world and much more! DraftKings - Download the DraftKings app NOW and use promo code: FIGHTER FiveCBD - Go to https://fivecbd.com/fighter and get your $40 bottle for free, just pay shipping and handling. O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/fighter Progressive - https://www.progressive.com/ Supercuts - For a real, smart hair experience, simply walk into Supercuts, or visit https://supercuts.com/ to find the salon nearest you. True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and get up to 25% OFF @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/FIGHTER ! #trueclassicpod #sponsored

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Yeah, we're good for another couple months. That's it? Yeah. And so it's awkward. I know what that means. Not awkward, I know exactly what it means. But you don't call him, like you guys don't talk? Yeah, every once in a while.

I mean, every like. But he's also not as not as therapists who's opening up to their dad like that well No, I talked to my dad about I thought my world and shit, you know politics and yeah I don't know I don't jump with my dad, but I'm not like man Joe had a really no no I want to if I want to get him fired up. I just call and be like yeah, oh Hey, what's going on with Trump? And then I get a 45 minute dissertation on how the Democrats are ruining this motherfucker. And I'm like, all right, well, okay.

I love your dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, yeah. Hey, can you send me the red hat in the mail? Thank you. That's the whole, you're from originally where? North Carolina. That's it.

Well, you know, like my family is from the mountains of Tennessee and then. Really? Yeah, so. That's it. Well, you know like my family is from the Mountains of Tennessee and then really yeah, so I see Irish side. Well Scotch Irish buddy. Yeah, there's a there's a difference Scotch Irish they're the Highlanders buddy fighting their blood. No, no see that's where you're wrong. Okay. Okay. Go back to year zero Yeah, okay, the Romans were building a fucking wall through England killing killing everybody, doing whatever. They got to Scotland and they were like, let's just build a wall, fuck it, these guys are crazy, they're pissing on us, they're throwing rocks down the, nah, so fast forward, then you get down to Braveheart, you know what I'm saying? 1200 AD and they're doing their thing

and they're rebelling against the, and they're like, man, these motherfuckers are crazy. So what do they do? They send a bunch of those big guys from Scotland over to Ireland to put down their rebellious ass and then they intermingle, right? Fast forward a little bit more. There's some shit going on in America and the New World and Then they sent all those guys to go win the fucking independence for America So the scott's Irish built this damn country good one bled All right, you're gonna introduce the our guests be oh what wait wait wait we're doing intro wait a minute

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Quit drinking for how long we talking? I've got months and months. I'm not doing the whole like, count the, oh, you know, they give me chips and whatnot, but that's another thing. Good for you. You're sober.

Sober. Yeah. You know what the hardest thing was to quit smoking the mountain of weed that I smoked. Yeah. And it's so weird because the world is not as pretty as I remember it. It was pretty on weed. But the constant like just all fucking smoking all the time.

That can't be good though. Joe Rogan said it was all right. Ah, yeah. I think he lied to me on that one. Well, it does good though. Joe Rogan said it was all right. Ah, yeah. I think he lied to me on that one. Well, it does you a little bit, doesn't it? I just don't, no, no. Listen, the world was just a roast-y-ass place all the time, even though, you know what I mean?

It's like the kitchen is on fire, but I'm in a living room, who gives a fuck? Yeah, I mean, like. Yeah, that can't be good. Until the couch was on fire, I was like, ah, I'm not getting out of here. Well, it's a motivation killer. I would say would you just. No, no, no.

Motivation, it would make me motivated, but to dumb shit, you know what I mean? The alcohol. It did alcohol too. Listen, if you put all these substances in your body and I'm living proof, that if you do that, you're fucking up. Like you're gonna.

But you know what it is, man? It's also you're an extremist. Buddy, that's exactly- That's what- That's weird, you took that word out of my head. You know? You know, I'm the same. Like I can't just, someone's like, try this.

It says take one pill, I'm taking 10. If they go, dude, check this out. I just don't check it out, I'm all in. So I can't just dabble in things. So if you're gonna steer me down a road, it's weed alcohol cars out or all fish at all whatever it is don't give me that one I'm down I'm you better be careful cuz I'm I'm going down in the deep lane but and that's how most fighters are exactly I think a big reason for your success was like your devotion and extremist

that's a great word for it that that's the word I've been using because whatever I do, I do it all the way, it goes hard in the pain. If someone doesn't direct you in the right path, it goes down a bad path. So even when you were going, you and I have been boys forever, you've always had my back. When I text you, I'm like,

you and I have always been good. When you're going through your shit, I was just in my head and we have mutual friends, Jimmy, all the guys. I was like, dude, you guys are getting this wrong. All he needs is to be set on the right path and it's on. Well, he just got to direct them the right direction. That's great and it sounds good on paper. But you know, once like my manager's left

and like I didn't have like a home gym anymore because the place closed down which was what Jim rain and back in the day Marmuno's that's what we met once I lost all my like community and structure but who the fuck's gonna tell mayhem what to do right it'd be tough like it was impossible like there's nobody who could you know and I always think about this. Oh man, if somebody could have got, you know, if my manager didn't just evaporate, that was the, that was kind of my like rock guy.

They were like, I listened to him. I go, hey man, what, what the, what? And I had cut out everybody else from my life as far as advisors go. Just use your manager for how long? For years, you know, for many years. And so I, you know for many years and so I You know, it's not his fault. No, but I

Nobody was there to tell me hey, dude, you're fucking up But it but is this when we when you're talking about you're messing up Is this during like the ultimate fighter like with the biz thing is that after that? It's right around the same time It's like you know, you get super famous and you fall into these crazy crowds of like people and you guys know, you guys are like cool kids, you know? So you guys know that there's all these weird hangar honors. You also lose that too.

So you can- And then when they go, you're sad, they're missing them. Like, I thought you guys were like, brrrr! There's that or if you listen to the wrong people, which I've been, you know, guilty of, you listen to the wrong people, hey, you should do this or you should do this. And you realize they don't have your best interest in hand.

Then you go down that road and now I don't talk to some of these people. I'm like, Oh, what was I thinking? Oh, and why would I do that? What about doctors? Like weird, like doctors nowadays or some weird dope dealers. They're just like, Yeah, come back here. You know, you could pay them 200 bucks to fill you up with all kinds of crazy pills and whatnot. And then you come back next month

and they give you some more. And they're like, and it's, I don't know. I'm gonna drug you up. I'm gonna drug you up. That's how it is, bro. So for you, it's like, you lose the management. The rain thing explodes, which I was part of. And then you're kind of, you're on your own.

And we can relate to the similar thing here. Similar thing here in comedy space like it implodes everyone goes their separate ways and thank God I'm right community, you know you lose it when you lose your community. It's like oh, it's I'm on my own It's fucked up. It's you can get really depressed sad anxious all that thing without an ankle I'm a Rogan rolling up the tent and fucking COVID Rogan rolling up the tent and fucking taking it to the death. It just happened COVID. Rogan just had a nice day. It was like COVID and the scene shut down

and then everyone moves. And then it's just a different scene. It's not that we're not friends with everybody or we're good, we're just not around each other anymore. Yeah. But part of it also is it's interesting, like you get older, you get older and I know a lot more about this than you guys,

but you get older and you just change and your perspective changed and you part of getting older, you get older, and I know a lot more about this than you guys, but you get older and you just change And your perspective changed and you part of getting older if you're doing your job is you look back and you go What the fuck were you doing? Like we all do that. I we all do it. Maybe some people don't but I think in a lot They do it and it's too late Yeah but if you're a passionate person and you want a lot, sometimes you just go. And sometimes the world is overwhelming and sometimes you're just grasping at straws

and sometimes you're young and you have the world that you're doing everything. And that's gonna come with, you're gonna fuck up. Man, for you, was there a moment where you're like, all right, enough's enough. Yeah. Yeah. Hell, but it was. All right, I'll tell you what it was.

The HOA threw me out because I pissed on the president's allegedly on his rug. Allegedly. That's a frown upon you. And frowned upon in the HOA community. And I just went on a tear. And a funny thing happened where I just like wandered. I was like, OK, enough's enough.

And I tried to go to a rehab. The rehab intake closed at seven o'clock, I think, and I showed up at like 730, and the doors were locked, and I was like, aw, fuck, so I wandered around, and buddy, you know, I went to prison for a couple years, but I went down to Skid Row for about 16 minutes. And I was never more nervous in my life than that moment. I saw what this is what's next, buddy.

If you keep fucking up like this. So, you know, everybody has that weird rock went down there because the rehab was up on the top of this hill and the path. And I was carrying a big ass piece of luggage like a fucking Isaac man Rahe lugging you know what I mean yeah and I was like all right I'll just wander down this hill and find somewhere to get an uber man I was like uber uber because I bro I was being hunted I was being hunted like oh man like a wildebeest they would have had their hands full.

I mean, you saw your potential future. Buddy, I saw that this is the way, you know, and I like, I like to be, you know, kind of a guiding voice. I see all these guys on Instagrams and whatever, like being this kind of motivational speaker stuff. And it's weird because how do you motivate somebody to stop being insane kind of you know because this cycle of addiction the kind of drinking and going crazy and you know if you if you have all these fun people around you

encouraging it it's super hard until you hit like a thing like that where you're like yo I'm being hunted right now. And like, this is dark. Did you ever, when you were in the midst of your insanity, did you, could you step outside and see yourself? Like, did you? Every once in a while, yeah. But in other words, maybe a better question was,

were you always saying, all right, today I'm gonna fuck up, but tomorrow I'm gonna be better? No, see, I wish that it was like that. I wish I had that kind of thing where, you know, I never had that like, I'm at the liquor store like, please don't, please don't buy a liquor. Nah. It was like, once I was rolling, I was rolling and then people that love me were going, Hey man, stop, stop. And out in my head, it's weird. It's like, that's what the disease does you. It like flips it on you.

Like they have the problem. They have the problem. And I didn't get that. I did under. Because to you, you were just having a good time. Because you feel like you are. Yeah, you're just having fun. It's something with the dopamine receptors

where your, you know, the excitement level keeps staying up and even the bad stuff. You know what I mean? Waking up in the middle of a bar fight You know like what the hell like oh like and then laughing like this is time. I was hilarious No, no hilarious and then you got to you know go do time about it, you know and and It's like there's a disconnect from the punishment You know because you have all this time to sober up and, and there's a, so it makes it very like you have to grow

as a person and stitch those things together. If you don't connect that and you don't hit your, you know, they always talk about hitting your bottom or whatever. If you don't finally, you can preach to someone all the time, Hey man, you need to stop, you need to stop, you need preach to someone all the time, hey man, you need to stop, you need to stop, you need to stop. But the reality of the situation is,

until you turn that corner and decide, okay, this is what I'm gonna do, then. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Who helped you? Was there anyone that like you can give credit to that kind of helped you along the way? There was a tremendous amount of people.

Yeah, a girl helped me out so much and got me through rehab, talking to her all the time, talking to her. You know, it kind of guided me in this direction. Like, because people were trying, they were trying to like guide me in this way. because people were trying to guide me in this way. And if I didn't have this back story of being talked to over and over again about this, it would never like sunk in. But finally, like I said, I turned this corner

and it was like smooth sailing after that. It was like, oh, okay. Like this is what your life has been ruined, like in shambles over and over again. And, you know, that's kind of why I'm here is like to, there were incidents like weird stuff where I would see little stuff on Instagram or podcasts or something and somebody would say something

that would click and then it was like some straws, you know? And finally it breaks the camels back. Like it just, they kept piling on each other and I go, oh, and I put that away, but you know what I mean? But my desire to go insane was like, would override those straws, but finally man, the hump just went in burn.

Will you say your desire to go insane, it was this desire to go start drinking again. Well, bud, like just like this excitement, you know, I had to, I had to, I had to, buddy, like, buddy. I'm telling you, it's so fun to like get into some trouble. Like, you know, and it's so stupid, but. Because big games may have. Yeah, but I know.

And I didn't see this coming. I'm fed into it. I mean, when everybody would recognize, yo, it's so stupid, but because big games may have your butt. I know. And I didn't see this. That's it. That's that into it. I mean, yeah, everybody would recognize, yo, it's may have. Yeah. It's made for me. Yeah.

The part of the drinks come out. We go insane, you know, and everybody was into it, but then I'm like caught holding a bag at the end. Like, oh, you realize that the price that's an illusion, literally, it's the devil.

It's literally like the illusion where the devil's going, come on over here, just one drink. Take a bite of the apple. Well, you know, and I don't want to be here like Mr. Buzzkill guy that's like, oh, you guys can never drink, yeah, da, da, da. But it's not, it's just for me. But you may be that guy.

I think I am. For me, it doesn't work. My friend is a guy who can never drink. And there's nothing wrong with that. And I think that commitment of just saying, I can never drink. Who's that, Bert Kershner? No, no, no, no, no.

It's a buddy you wouldn't know. But we had to come to Jesus' moment actually here. Bert should stop drinking. Because he started drinking again. You think so? Yeah. At his age, yeah. Oh man.

Because I love him. That's hot, man. I want him to stay healthy. It's kind of his thing though, right? I know, that's the thing. You're the party guy, you're Van Wilder. Like you're the Florida State number one party guy in the world. You gotta take your shirt off.

Bert's a different kind of drinker in terms of, Bert is a jolly, fun drinker who drinks. Oh so am I for the first couple weeks and then like, what's up? And I have a magic power when I drink, man. I can get anybody, man, woman, child, to punch me in the face. I just talk shit and talk shit until somebody's like,

bink, and I'm like, ha ha ha. I mean, you know. It's a problem. Then it's a problem. Yeah, and that's right. So obviously I'm gonna say, you can, when you say never you start going into scarcity mode, but I would say what you're doing right,

better say what you're doing right now is, you're getting, now is you're getting this is the path to getting to your best self There you go And I'm serious and I think that there's so much gold waiting on that end But I'm hearing this from people that I'm starting to believe it's fucking true Because anything beyond if you go back it's it's hell and if you go this way it's who you're supposed to be Let's take a little break a little break from chatting about the mayhem this way it's who you're supposed to be. Let's take a little break. Let's take a little break from chatting about the mayhem. Yes. Because get in on the action with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA. New customers who deposit $5 or more

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Because the Jason I spent time with, the Jason I fucking know, is a really fucking charismatic smart great person Oh, and it's true though dude And and I know that's hard to believe sometimes when people say that about ourselves And and so when I when I would hear about you going and doing these crazy shit with you know You were not in your right mind. Yeah, and I always said and they're like, oh Jason is ma'am I don't care about any of that. He just needs to get on the right path and it's game on

Yeah, if you just point in the right direction, because we know you and we're not a good of a person you are. That's what it is, brother. When you look back- I know this is gonna be a love bet. I know, sorry man. I wouldn't have been so anxious driving over here. I wouldn't have if you want.

I mean, that's why he and I were talking about that. It's like, you have history with us and we saw the best side of you. Yeah, yeah. And that is the side of you. Do you ever look back on your fighting days? Yeah, of course. I mean, every once in a while,

I somehow bring it up here and there and I'm like, oh yeah, yeah. And what's your perspective on it? Because just before you answer, like mine, when I first got into economy podcasting, I wanted nothing to do with it. No, no, that's in the past, I do this now. And then over probably five years,

and I was like, no man, you did some cool shit. Well, no, but you have to like have some time to separate it because, you know, when you're still like active fighter, like there's, you know, everyone's gonna dismiss this win or like, you know, undercut this and they kinda, and then now would like taking a step back from it

and being able to look at it clearly like, oh man, I, you know, I did some tremendous stuff. Like you're, you're in, yeah, but when you're, when it's like close, all you see, like if you're a good fighter, you see only the negative stuff. You only see where you messed up. You only watch the mistakes. You know why? Because when you got involved, the goal is to be a world champion.

So when I got involved, it was like world champion or bust. So you don't achieve that, you feel like a loser. NFL goal was to be, you know, Tom Brady. When you don't achieve that, you feel like a loser. Then as you mature, you get older. And you're like, holy shit, I did some good stuff. No, that was dope. You should be proud, man.

Especially the stuff you pulled off is nuts, dude. Nuts, we look back on. It was good, yeah. Man, I had a good career. I really, I mean, you went to distance of GSP. Yeah, that was a. Yeah, man. I had a good career. I really I mean you went to distance gsp Yeah, that was a fun one That was like the first show that was the first UFC on TV like those the weird Wow, you know it back on TV from when they canceled it, you know, and yeah, that was a good one

You know, it's just like Thinking about fighting it's so strange because now I'm like Thinking about fighting, it's so strange because now I'm like, that guy at the gym, like the older guy who's like, you know, some of the kids are like, pie-plated eyes, like, oh my God, it's mayhem. And other ones are like, who's this old guy telling me what to do? Like, and I get that.

I love that guy. Yo, where's Connor? I love that guy because I was that kid. I was like, I don't, man, I'm tough, I don't, I don't, I'm doing, I don't man. I'm tough. I don't know. I don't listen. Yeah, I'm doing I know how I'm drying my You know and then as I would gain trust for the coach then I would soften up But I think there needs to be a little bit out of that irreverence in you Yeah, you know, you have to be like to be a good fighter. You have to be a solo

Like a very mean you have to have this and then as time goes by You know the the kids trust in you and then they realize you're in a gym right now You're working. I have you know, I work at a few gyms like I'm very blessed to like You know a lot of people have recognized my talent I coach in the guys. You have a lot of knowledge man Yeah, I know I like I studied I Jiu-Jitsu. I studied with Kings, Muay Thai, like, and yeah, for brief shows, awesome. The, you know, the knowledge that I accumulated, I always thought I was dumb, but I realized, no, no, I just specced in to, instead of going to regular college,

I went to Marshall Arts College. Correct. My whole life and learned all these different techniques and would go to each individual gym and like focus on area of study, very similar to somebody who, you know, like a surgeon who, you know, does eyeballs. I think most fighters feel that way.

A lot of fighters be like, go out, I hear fighters say, oh, I'm stupid or that guy's an engineer. I'm like, hold on, does eyeballs. I think most fighters feel that way. A lot of fighters like, go out, I hear fighters say, oh, I'm stupid or that guy's an engineer. I'm like, hold on, hold on. Talk to him who, if you're a black belt, like talk to that engineer, whether it's chemical engineering, mechanical engineering, talk to him about jiu-jitsu, he feels stupid. Right.

You decide to get your masters in jiu-jitsu and choking people out. He decided to go down that route. Not an easy thing to do. Not an easy thing to do. Yeah, but it's not that you're stupid. You just put your efforts into this. He put his efforts into that. Correct. So people get intimidated by this stuff. I never did. I was always like, no, I put my efforts in here. If I would put it in there, I'd be just like, I could learn that. I mean, MMA is like watching

what you guys did. It's just so difficult to be good. Mayhem was also the first one where he like crossed over into pulp culture. Like there's so many guys now, everyone wants to give credit to all these other guys, but Mayhem was the first one. Bully beat down was massive. I taught the kids. Massive.

I didn't realize what I was doing at the time. I was just like taking the job. I was fighting in Japan, making a bunch of money and I was loving it. And then they came at me with this idea that I like almost passed up. Like I was like, ah, nah. And then they explained, no, no, you could be funny.

Cause the way they pitched it was like a serious show. And I was like, buddy, that sounds stupid. They're like, no, no, no, you get to be funny. It's you get to, and I was like, oh, okay. Did you ever get nervous when you had to fight those guys today? No. Did they know they were gonna have to fight you? No, I guess.

Cause you get like this. That was the, I don't watch know they were gonna have to fight you? No, I did. Did you get like this? No, that was the other one. I watched you just choke them out. You should be like, hee hee hee. You could never make that show today. Today they're not gonna make that show. Think so.

Oh, it's bullying, blah, blah, blah. What do you mean? The bully gets out. I know, I know. Think about it. I bet you Sean Strickland beat up that kid who asked for it and he's getting so much flack. I bet you.

That was a weird thing to me though. Like, I don't know. Sean, I think could have handled it different. How though? Listen, when I was when I was hosting bully beating up, okay, we had different fighters come beat up the bully. I'm gonna tell the guys, hey, man, I know exactly how long he is.

I would tell I would tell the fighters, hey, man, look, like cook them. Like, how about don't don't just take the guy out and obliterate him. We got to smash 22 minutes here, bud. You know what I mean? Don't knock him out for the second. Carry him.

And I would say, and body shots, but let's just get there. I think Sean could have just like body shot that guy into infinity. Or light kicks. Or, no, I thought they were boxing, no? Was it just boxing? So it was just boxing, I don't know. I agree, he. Or light kicks. Or, no, I thought they were boxing, no? Was it just boxing? Oh, was it just boxing? I think they were just boxing, I don't know.

So it was just boxing, yeah. I agree, he had done some body shots. He could have done. My only caveat with that is, my only caveat with to defend Sean on that is, this major YouTuber went in there, asked for it. Sean was like, dude, and it's Sean Strickland. He's like, if you're gonna do this,

I'm gonna light your ass up. You know what the bet was, right? The kid goes, bring it on. Yeah, but he said, he said, you're gonna do this, I'm gonna light your ass up. You know what the bet was, right? The kid goes, bring it on. Yeah, but he said, he said, you have, he goes, he said something like, you can't get me back. No, no, he said, I think it was like, he has 30 seconds to knock him out. That's what it was.

I can last 30 seconds with you. Oh, no, it was like a minute. A minute? Yeah. And to his credit, he took a beating. He wore that beating like a Armani suit. He did. That's a long time. He asked for it. That's the difference, time he took a beating. Yeah, he wore that beating like a harmony suit He did that's a lot for it. That's that's the difference like he asked for yeah I you know he could have had a different but like I used to do the same thing

I was like any one anywhere at any time. Let's do it. You know what I mean? And It got me in a lot of trouble You know if I guess if I put on YouTube it would would have been a whole different story. Now? Yeah, nowadays, yeah. Now, that was a different story. But I was just getting brawls all the time with anybody. I have now retired from those street fights. I love that story. Somebody started telling me, and then you finished it.

When you were in Miami dancing, and he's dancing with this girl. And this guy, this guy, this huge Guido dude, like steroid guy, he said something. He goes like this to Miami. He goes, hey, dude, steroid guy goes, he said something, he goes like this to the man, he goes, hey dude, get the fuck out of here. No, no, he's like, you distracted me. Yeah, he distracted me, and then the man goes, fuck off. And he starts dancing.

No, I said to him, I don't even know who you are, bro. Like, and he, like, but I knew what was going on. But I was like, I don't even know who you are. Oh, the guy, the guy, the guy in trouble is, no, no, I wouldn't even dance with her. We were across the room and I was like, I don't even know who you are. You got the guy who told me this. No, no, I wouldn't even dance at Whitler. We were across the room and I was like, looking after him. I was like busting out the Rampage Jackson, like giving the eyes like this, doing this weird,

you know what I mean? Sexual innuendo dance. So he felt the vibe. By the way, looking like kind of a rangey tennis pro. I was fighting at 185 and I was walking around like 187. Yeah, wild. Like baggy clothes. I look completely gangly, wearing like weird club clothes.

The guy came over. Oh yeah, the guy came over. Wait, can I tell you, the way the story was told me from other people was like, Mayhem's outside and it's one steroid guy and he's going, oh, ah, boom, and he just hit elbow on them and he said there was a pile of bodies, all these macho tam-dos with their shirts open. Just like, ee, ee. So, boy, boy time.

Like I was doing, yeah. Just fucking wrecking. But the best part of that was that happened on the dance floor. And then the DJ came out and was like, there's a fight on the dance floor. There's a fight on the dance floor. And I had already finished the guy and ran out. I was like, hey, there's a fight on the dance floor.

And like, I thought it was gonna be over, but I turned around and it was like brave heartheart situation, the bouncers fighting my friends, those guys, the me heads fighting. Oh man, it was a nightmare. I feel like you're such a character. There's a platform now, or avenue now, like you look at what Rampage is doing. Rampage is one of the funniest guys in the fucking world. We've had him on here all the time.

What is he doing now? He's hosting that podcast. Jackson podcast. He's doing that? He's hosting that podcast. Jackson, Jackson. He's doing that. He's doing his fighting. But you're the same, like you and Rampage are cut from the same cloth.

Like I feel like there's a huge avenue for you in the same lane if you want it. Everybody say, oh, do a podcast, do a podcast. I say, how do I do that? And then I can hear it. I know a guy. You got 1600 damn microphones. Jesus Christ. I know a guy But do I can I cuss on this podcast? Yeah, okay? Because I have been yeah

Yeah, that's there's there is I think with your personality and personality your old fight stories all that yeah Oh man a lot of people you know a lot of shenanigans have gone on I know all the people think about all the people You know from the old-school days that may have people it's like the on. I know. All the people, the thing about all the people you know from the old school days, and it may, people, it's like the longer I'm staying straight, everyone's like, coalescence, like everyone's like, hey, and it hit me up on Instagrams and all that. I'm like, oh, geez, this is a... Cause people love you and you're entertaining.

I know. And enough time has gone by where I haven't done anything bad where everyone's cool. Trust ya. Trust me again. I also think people understand what happens when people are in the throes of drugs and alcohol. And mental illness, frankly, when you were.

Listen, I was talking to a guy, he was telling me that he was in psychosis. I said, buddy, I like try to stay in a psychosis as much as possible. Like I really, and I have like a weird theory on the whole thing because, you know, fighting and whatnot. And I, in my family, this is a thing. When would it be good for a human being

to be hyper vigilant, not need to sleep at all, not need to eat anything? That's war, bro. That's like a vestigial organ. Special forces. Yeah, buddy. You like that. And by the way, getting hit in the head for a long time too, that you may have had some like,

because your brain heals over time. But I would imagine also coming out of the fight game like that. You know, you don't walk away from that when you're young. You're adding to brain trauma, alcohol, drugs. It's not going to be not sleeping, not eating. It's not going to not sleeping, not eating. It's not gonna work out for you. And whenever anything happens with a fighter,

whatever it is, people go, oh, CT. I'm like, yeah, that's the cop out. That's the quickest, easiest, it's a cop out. CT, elemental P. Yeah, it's like, all right. I'm like, no. Well, I think you can heal, you know what I mean?

Some fish oil and whatnot, you know? But there's definitely, I think a big part of it, because I got a buddy who's on the Raiders He's like, you know online and he me and him talking to each other Everybody was terrified because you get used to living in this like fast moment fast moment From you know, you get hit and you're like you have to like live like Microsecond to microsecond and me and him talking real fast to each other was terrifying everybody because they thought we're about the fight but we're not we're just like geared high like you get used to that you get used to living

like where your brain thinks quick got to think quick or you're gonna die yes you know so it definitely you know there's there's an adjustment to to this type of activity, if you will. Well, I love it. I love the look on you, and I think it's gonna just keep getting better. Think so.

I hope so. I hope so. I'm living in the hood right now, bro. Jason, I don't think so. Pacoino, what's up? The barrio, homie. I know, I fucking know something. How are you and your family now?

No, we're everyone everyone's so relieved. Cause like, dude, I was living like, about to die for a long time. Like I was like, you know what I mean? Cause it's dangerous. The cops will shoot you, somebody else will shoot you. You know what I mean? Or you accidentally kill somebody, you know?

And like to the point where like, I was getting those street fights, I would only body shot guys. Only body shots because I was like, ah, don't knock them out. You know my ability So I would just offer cut the guys into infinity like oh, you know what I mean? Solar plexus shots for everybody suck. I'm dishing them out. I know I don't get in the guy Guys these kids try to jump me right fight you buddy. I man listen I'm going to looking for if I'm looking for it. Yeah, I'm like, you know, I told you I get fired up

I start And you know typical day now mayhem is what you live in as you said the hood I live in a hood I you know, it's all right. It's not that bad doing your penance right now. There's nothing exactly exactly come back come back see you have to do your penance, Bubba. You have to, and it's fine. It's just where you are right now. It is, yeah. It's just part of the journey. No, it's fine, I'm not stressed about it.

I grew up in the hood. Like, you know what I mean? To me, it's no stress, but it's a different kind of hood. Like, I have to pay attention to what kind of Mexican talk they're talking right now because this gringo right here ain't supposed to be in there or something. something they think I'm a cop I'm like oh man no you did like you know like or they think I'm selling Matt they're like hey so what's up man you got any kind of my what no okay okay Okay, okay. And then they like, just salsa off. Suspect of it. Yeah, are you living by yourself up there?

No. Yeah. No. Got some bros. Too many bros. You know, but it's probably good. Like you said, some penance. I don't know, you know.

I'm saying hell marries all day. Yeah, but, you know, thank God, you know, thank God that, cause I'm just saying such a good place, that this doesn't even bother me, you know? Was there a moment, like do you keep yourself for people who are wrestling with this kind of stuff? Is there, is there something you, how do you talk to yourself every day?

Is there something you read every day? You know, movies, what do you watch? I'm blessed to have the support of some people that have been through similar struggles. And so I get the text thread. Yeah man. It's, you know what I mean? It helps, right? That helps, so, and so I get the text thread. Yeah, man. It's, you know what I mean? It helps, right?

That helps, so, but you cannot get that until you do the work yourself. And like, even just, You gotta earn it. Going to rehab. I went to Rich Guy Rehab one time and just sailed through it like, ba, ba, I got this, ba, I got this. I went to Hood Rehab through it like, ah, I got this, I got this.

I went to Hood Rehab and was like, oh dude, it gets worse from here. So you better buckle down and like, beast, take this seriously. Front of the class, doing every assignment, taking it serious, being like, I'm not gonna go back to this life, you know, and remind yourself.

I think that for anybody going through that, that just the, it's like taking that red pill, you know, the symbolic step of going to it, even if you don't want to, because I didn't want to at the beginning. I was like, I got this. I still have that mentality, but I got this.

But keeping in a controlled environment where you can't go out and get drunk or you can't go out and take pills or smoke, whatever you want to, you know, whatever you do. If you get kind of a base of getting used to, they call it sober feet. Like you get used to the kind of doing stuff like where you're not getting high or getting you know and it gives you kind of a base of operations in your brain

that you don't have to do that because when you get in that zone of you know every day I woke up smoke a joint every day for 10 years. That was your drug choice? That's, I guess, if you want to call it. And it's weird to be like, oh, you know, and especially nowadays where they're talking about, like it's all illegal, so it kind of makes it easier. But when you're like wired like I am, that thing becomes, it's like, you know, smoke weed, go train.

And now I just took that part out and my life has gotten better, like continuously, cause now I can remember what's going on. Yeah. I can like, I remember everybody. I think I said, people are a little bit uglier than I remember. Yeah. Because I was just like, ah, they're also older.

See, yeah, exactly. And like the city, the, the streets of LA, I remember they were like, kind of cloudy and now I see every piece of graffiti and every of my, oh man. And it kind of motivates me like, I would like to make this city better. Like I want to kind of bring this up. There's something wrong here and I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to try, you know, I'm going to try to use the little bit of power I have in this world to bring it all up.

There's no way to leave it how it is. And the system, you know, I know I'm word vomiting at you guys, but I have like a lot of things to say and this is my first time back in the real world. I'm older as well. You know what I mean? I really appreciate you guys saying, I really appreciate you guys.

Of course you guys. But, I mean, in order to do that, you gotta choke out new some. Do I? Like that's the thing though. You don't need any more trouble. I don't know. Don't take my advice man. That'd be where I'd start. God forbid yeah. And that guy looks like American Psycho though. I bet he has some bodies in this basement. Oh yeah. No wait but this guy is bad. I thought this guy was good. He was seemed pretty smart. I don't know. He's smart. I don't know. You guys are good. Now you got me talking politics.

Good hair. Good looking. But wait, keep going. Oh, yeah. Um, have you had many, uh, either current fighters or former fighters reach out like as the, when you were going through the thick bit, did you see me shout? I wish the freaking, no.

What do you mean? It gets quiet. No, it gets quiet. Yeah. I mean, and I don't even blame anybody. Like I don't blame anybody for like You know what I mean putting their drawbridge up because to be honest if you just read the internet about me You know and it was partially it was clicks like they they made every incident that I was involved with

Like yeah, TMC was like here's mayhem again, and I said, okay, cool. I get it I get that's that game, but you know now I'm like turn the corner and trying to like build something new and There's nothing I can do about all those crazy articles in the past nothing Yeah, and nothing I could do so I'm just gonna keep putting good on top of it and hopefully you know Well the ones that we're never gonna fuck with you. They're just it doesn't matter what you do So we don't know. Yeah back to the rest of the people that we're never gonna fuck with you, it doesn't matter what you do. So we don't have to worry about that. The rest of the people, they're gonna jump on,

they're like, yeah, he's doing the work and they jump on board. That's all you need. I don't blame people because the stuff that, I didn't even read it, but those little bits that trickled back to me made me go, oh my God, I don't even wanna hang out with me. Well, the press will do that.

They need juicy stuff to get clicks. Cause you know, if you look at like, so Vice, they're out of business. Bankruptcy, Buzzfeed out of business. I think even Reddit is having major problems. Really? Yes. So it's just gonna be like,

nobody's making money. Walmart, Amazon and like. Yeah, but there's no, there's no money off that sensationalizing, negative stuff. Is it Triller trailer is a thriller trailer there are fight league. No, um, it's another one anyway They're all these different kind of like entities these media entities and People are not interested first of all. They don't trust the media that which apocalypse army or you guys join it I'm thinking about signing up with Disney. That's a good question. I'm just gonna fly to Hopefully I'm saying they're gonna have the coolest weaponary like you know what I mean like some

AI What do you mean I graciously accept my robot overlord there you go now now you or you mesh with the robots buddy I'm neural link in my chip right now buddy. What are you talking about? Buddy I'm neural link in my chip right now buddy. What are you talking about? Put in the first neural Lincoln. Yes, and they're like any move the mouse with his brain. I must That's it. Yeah. Well, it's I'd be pissed if I got out of that Thing about technology right now is it's all moving exponentially course It's not it's not like well We need five years the difference between now and five years could be something insane because,

and the worry of course is you have AI building AI. So when you have AI building AI that then builds AI. Well, the AI building AI is an issue, but the worry is that the AI technology in the wrong hands. That's what you should worry about first. Man, I came out of prison and I walked in 7-eleven and got my slurpee and walked out and there was a guy laying on the sidewalk wearing an Oculus Rift playing video games I was like fuck I live in the future now yeah bro what I'm just thinking everybody would be neural

linked all on you porn we're headed that we're headed that direction especially we don't nip in the ass what would was your day like in prison? What was it? Oh my goodness. Did anybody test you in there? Oh, yeah Did they? Yeah But not but mostly people were very respectful and it's like a whole different. Did you have to join it? This is a whole podcast on the cell, but you were in jail not in a pet. Not in a pet. I know There's a white crew, but but you were in jail not on white not in I know there's a white crew But but you want to stay? Pen or see white but

I can't believe I'm talking politics right now There's a white will see yeah, but the thing about White gangs is you can Go man to man like the other like Mexicans and black guys they don't like go one on everyone oh it's a gang they don't go one-on-one to settle disputes but white boys can so I explained that to the guys and then you know and then word got around oh that's mayhem and then no more one-on-one no I only had a not you'd be surprised guys are crazy yeah especially when they get all geeked up and whatnot

You know and I was just trying to do my time You know and when you were in it once they once they understood that that I was in part like I'm not trying to be This is not my life like I want to get past first not in there You're laying their head down on the pillow. Did you was it like Andy de Fren? Like God? They're gonna get in a tattoo shop. So these guys were all geeked up doing tattoos all night. Oh, hey, ma'am, you're awake. I'm like, yeah, you're in jail. Yes.

Damn. Cause you lived where all the dudes were getting ink done. Yeah. No, there's like the tattoo artists were in there. They make like a tattoo gun out of like, I don't know, a walk. It's amazing. The engineering is amazing. Listen, if there's so many guys in there that if they would have put

their mind to engineering or something like that, they wouldn't be there. Well, that guy, the guy who just got out after 45 years, Michael Thompson, I think his name is, do you ever see him? He, uh, he was the in the area in Brotherhood and he was huge, like 240 pounds and just the enfor enforcer but he basically he got his PhD in prison I believe like a legit PhD. Oh yeah see that's the thing is that there's like some guys who are there and I worked my way up out of that out of the terrible like the dungeons. I worked my way up out of dungeons and eventually became a dog trainer. Oh, wow.

You did? Yeah. Really? It was awesome. It was like the most beautiful part of my experience was to work with dogs and, you know, because they train it for disabled vets and whatnot. And so all day long, I'm teaching dogs like a side, you know what I mean? You learn, you learn, you learn dogs.

I learned a lot of stuff. Yeah. I learned a lot of stuff about dog training. No, no. But, um, you know, it was, that I learned a lot of stuff. Yeah. I learned a lot of stuff about dog training. No, no. But, you know, it was, that was the most beautiful part of my experience. I also worked in the gym. I was the gym coordinator and I had to run the president's day tournament, basketball tournament buddy.

That right there, but that I want to see oh my good how long were you in there two years yeah I trained yeah I like I once when I was working out at gym I got to hit the bag every day I got to do the stairs they had a stair step right I built like I built like 16 different like exercise machines for all the yards. Like that was my job. Like all day long like slave labor. So you were in jail, you were in pen.

You were in the pen. Yeah, the pen. Yeah. That's jail. Jail's like. It's different. That's awesome. This is what I was gonna say earlier is like,

everyone's like stressed. Everyone's like, oh, either they hates the homeless or you know, like they're, or or there ever sad that there's homeless, but I've been to the homeless factory buddy is jail Yeah, like it's like this they call the prison industrial No, no the jail industrial complex you go in there. You don't have a job You don't have nothing like in the jail. You just sit there. Yes like a Costco in the jail, you just sit there like a Costco tub of milk. Or you know what I mean? You just sit there all day long.

You don't do anything. You're just, all you do is commiserate with other dummies who got stuck in there. And then, you know, you get kicked out and now you got nothing. Like now they, any money that you had was spent on lawyers and whatever if you had any money You know what I mean? And then they what are they? That whole Community of lawyers and judges and they're balling out driving the hottest cars and you know what I mean?

And then the the sport bond the sport guy. Yeah bonds man, you know, I guess you guys already know about this. Well, my friend's a prison guard upstate. Them? They make like a hundred, I seen guys make 160 grand a year sitting on his ass all day, don't even have to shoot a gas grenade at anybody. Right, right. You know what I mean?

And also, state pens, I didn't realize how much is available to you. Like commissary, you got everything you need, phone calls. Yeah, and then there's a lot. No, but there's like a bunch of company walking horse. There's like a bunch of companies that make boatloads of money off your family, buying you clothes and you know what I mean?

You get to have a certain. So it's a weird thing. It's a weird business. We're, yeah. It's a weird business. Consumerist society, even in prison. How is the food? Terrible.

Oh my God. Is it bad as they say it Alan? Can you get food? You want me to put that chair over why I'm just, you're sitting there? Is it that bad? Is it that bad? It's that bad.

I mean, look, they do their best. Like, because there's other inmates making it. Yeah. So I can't talk smack on the- Did you meet any like good buddies who you still talk to in prison? Can I always hear about guys making friends or you just want to be done with it? Yeah, I mean, no, of course.

You know, I answered a phone for Global Telling, you know, if the guys will call me. I was so made with the guy who sold the Hell's Angel all their speed in the 90s. He'd been down for like 30 years, 30 years. He's trying, you know, and he got convicted on like Somebody said that he did it. It was not like there's no evidence But this guy, you know, it's one of those things where if you're a successful drug dealer and they can't get you on selling drugs You're gonna get you up on something else. So it's best to stay away from this type of industry. Yeah, and yeah I talked to him. I talked to Dino.

Yeah, he's a, you know, I imagine there's like a special bond because you only when you know that what you were going through you guys can relate to it. Yeah, yeah, it's really, yeah, it's an interesting thing. You know, I, you know, I did that short, that little skid bid compared to a lot of guys get jammed up. And I, you know, I thank God that I didn't make some like too big a mistake

where I had to like him, he's, you know, he's down for life. You know, it's like, and he's good to see the parole board, but they're like, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So how's that guy stay positive? You know, like, he doesn't wake up. Yeah. He doesn't. He's the meanest, scariest old man

that you've ever seen in your life And that was my cellmate that would make sense though Yeah, that makes it like you're not gonna be the most cheerful dude when you're in there alive for Some guys that are kind of zen who are in there or no not a lot. No he was pretty zen. Yeah, but like Violent maniac Zen. Yeah, you know like because that's just the life that you have to live it sucks and you know When it should be it should be a deterrent. I think that I'm trying to tell people about this to deter them from Falling into that life. Oh, no. Yeah, because because you know, it's you don't think about it when you're when you're out there Gallivanting and doing all kinds of crazy stuff. You don't think about man

There's some real there could be some real repercussions for me, you know, getting drunk, getting in a bar fight. You know, me, I, you know, I, I, I seen terrible, terrible things. And just now, this month and month later. You see terrible things in the jail you're saying? Prison, yeah. Really?

Oh my goodness. Stabbings and all that. Riot, someone got an ear cut off. Oh my God. Really? Yeah, like, oh man. And were you scared? Were you scared?

I don't know, not. You scared? I wasn't scared because, you know, I got the things and like, I know, but you know, yeah, there's some nervous like, pay attention, pay attention. And then, You get stabbed in the throat.

You don't want to get stabbed up. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. I mean, Fisticuffs is one thing, but getting stabbed is. I mean, here's a good thing, man. Like, when you and you're doing it, but at the end of this road, like, then to your movie, you have so many tales to tell.

But I have written a book, like, three times, and in the middle of each writing, something else crazy happens, and I go down a different path and I'm like, all right, well, throw that book away. There's a brand new one. Hey, you're not gonna do that. You're not gonna do that.

You're still gonna do that. No, no, yeah. See, for the first time, the only reason I came on in this show was because I feel confident that I'm going in this new direction. Before I was like, yeah, I feel pretty good about this. Like, ah, ah. But now that I'm like, this new direction. Before I was like, yeah, I feel pretty good about this. Like, ah, ah. But now that I'm like, kick that and like, fuck.

And seen enough and gained enough life experience to go, okay, well like I don't wanna live like this anymore. No, you grew up. Yeah, I feel good. You grew up. You know what I'm saying? I know, but that makes me mad though. Because-

You still look good. Thanks. But you grew up. No, it makes me mad that I couldn't have done it earlier. But everyone works on their own timeline. Yeah, everyone works on their own timeline. It's not your story. It's not your story. It's just not your story.

And part of what you have to look forward to is that the insanity you went through, including jail, is going to color, it's gonna be part of your very colorful story, part of who you are as a very colorful character and And I would I would offer that you are gonna have a lot of a lot of wisdom Wisdom to impart to younger crazier mother. That's the vibe. I'm getting yeah, right me too You're forty what three forty three young you look you look great. Oh, yeah

I've been warehouse and Costco for a good long time. I know yeah, but you do you look great Do you do how much do you keep up with the UFC currently buddy? I know I realized After I agreed that there was a fight on and I missed it. So I know There's UFC Mexico, but I'm saying like I missed you do like oh yeah I'm familiar with the stars like sugar Sean Sean Strickland. Yeah, let me see sugar Sean Knowing like the days that all the crazy shit you did. Yeah, you know, you had You know, I know it's weird because I predicted all this and now that I was right. I was like, oh, dude You were the you were the you're the catalyst

And then when the hearing if the kids look back on it's like no mayhem was doing this for a hot second Like talking the referees put up the peace on these choking to do it out all this is mayhem I know in japan 20 years ago Over 20 years over over so caraba When people are like, oh, you can you believe could be but was hitting that guy and talking the rafts. I'm like, oh You think that's new may have did this 20 years? No, but it's cool though But like I don't you know the the new

Died here Funny ones. Yeah, that guy was such a character. Yeah. Yeah, so now it's cool like I think you know get him But I was building upon Stuff that I had seen to you know what I mean ganky pseudo and all for sure I'm just saying like you're like as far as the American version what the kids are doing now. It's cool Yeah, it's cool. I was right like I was like, okay I knew how things were gonna kind of develop like it in my mind and to like Get you know to see it happening is like oh, okay. Well damn. I wanted to something like you in my mind and to like get you know to see it happening is

like oh okay well damn I wanted to something like you were a huge star back then imagine if you just start now doing the shenanigans with Instagram I know he's I mean I know it's like they have a stand in Spanish somebody told me there's a something about you're 10 years too early. Something like that. Yeah, but it's fine. I like how it's cool. It's cool now to be fitting into this new world, especially from my perspective, where I'm basically like, you guys got to fill me in on everything.

I don't know what is going on. I just feel like, you know. With UFC and everything. I'm supposed to do this. I don't know, Sean. Let me tell you about Sean Strickland. And then I get to tell you about it. Everybody kept sending me stuff like,

yo, Sean Strickland. And I'm like, oh man, this guy is like my cousin for sure. You know, he talks like me. Dude, you two together on a fucking podcast? Oh, wow. It would be really interesting. Yeah, I mean, because I don't agree with all his politics stuff, to be honest, like I don't, but I respect that he has this platform

and he's doing like a, he's doing what he wants. But that's to me is dope, man. Yeah, me too. That's badass. Like, they sound a lot like me. How do I think about it? No, I know. Him and Shrek.

Like what the hell? Like, yeah, he said he has a same- Dude, they get kicked off YouTube so fast. So fast. Who is me? No, you and Shreklin together? No. We he kicked off YouTube so fast. So fast. Who is me? No, you and Trickling together, we kicked off YouTube. No, why?

You wild boys. You're not allowed to be racist on YouTube. Yeah. Damn. It's frowned upon. No, that's too bad. That's wild, man. Yeah, isn't that crazy?

All the shit, like if he was now, like massive. I doubt that you were on a big start, but I've talked to massive. Yeah, no, because there's a whole day, but I've talked massive. Yeah, no because Now it's like as soon as somebody says some crazy junk It is like immediately in everybody's and then neural ink is gonna be in everyone's brain in a second You know, but then think about just like imagine sugar Sean makes more money not fighting Oh, how do you pinlet makes more money not fighting? You got only fans. Yeah. Oh, what? But you're not showing weiner. He's doing you know, like training and doing that other stuff

I'm not big on which he's big on twitch the endorsement deals like which yeah, you play video games. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my goodness I know I know brother. Oh my goodness man What was great the whole point of all it's like there's a seat at the table for you. Hmm You know I'm saying all right There's a seat at the table for you to take advantage of it need he's a guy He's a guy to really talk up to about about ideas for real you know business He knows business and he's creative and well obviously a lot the hell is this place. Oh my god, dude You got you got it. I'm really impressed by you know, and he's so humble about it

But I'm like holy what that man you burn this place down I don't know what they ensure it's gonna cover it. It's yeah You should really talk to him all right because there's there's a whole world for you and there's there's a whole world waiting for you Are you throwing me off the podcast right now? No, okay good No, okay, I didn't want to get good man. How'd you get here? I drove all right. Oh, what? No, I was gonna say man. Okay. Yeah, I don't want you to oh, no We got you thought I took a rowboat. No, I don't know dude. Now you come from your your time over here from the hood I was like, oh my goodness. What the hell am I in right now? I do you see that gimme community? Yeah, live there, dear

No, no, my god. That's the the first place I think the Kardashians little that's here in Hills yeah oh man that's where we go when the revolution again that's real money yeah they got the revolution you ride their horses to the school there all kinds of shit out of here yeah oh my god I've been in that community a couple times in the houses there They probably got like every week. They probably have like century turrets and stuff. It's wild. That's why yeah It's like a black ops security security. Oh, the security's not out of nowhere. Yeah, oh, and they have security get every and then everyone has Their own private celebrity meter is thick. That's not where you want to go during the revolution. It's well Weaponized they can't stop all of us. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, yeah. Storm the capital, baby. It's big too, it's much bigger than I thought. Yeah, it's a big problem. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get us off on the car. No, no, no, no, I'm thinking. So what are your goals? Do you have any goals specifically?

I'm gonna sell some Manuka honey at samumanuka.com. Yeah. Yeah, slash ma'am. Really? I got like a whole thing. Oh, sick, I love Manuka honey. You know Manuka honey? Oh, I didn't even, I didn't like a whole thing. Oh, sick. I love Manuka honey. Oh, I didn't even.

That's my favorite. I didn't know nothing about it. Oh my god. It's Samu Manuka, man. It's a S-A-M-U. This shit's got magical properties to it. And that's what I'm saying. It's my favorite, yeah.

You guys got a sponsor for Ikaoke up with the guys. Love it. I love that shit. I didn't know what it was until they told me it's like some magical honey that has antibiotics, property. Basically the Kardashians are the bees that make this honey. No, I thought the Kardashians were, the only reason I even thought of it was because I thought the Kardashians were taking it or rubbing on their big asses or something.

They might. They might. What was it from, what do you mean you're in the business now? Like, you know, I have a partnership with these guys and we're just starting out. I think if you put slash mayhem, it's like have some, I get some bird dope. Yeah, I hooked you guys up.

So I know you guys are big on, uh, uh, What is the word? Sponsorship. Yes. So I thought I would plug the Manuka. Manuka Samu ASAMU. Oh, and now that I think about it. Manuka, honey's good.

Yeah. I don't know, I think you could rub it on your ringworm, makes it go away. I don't know, these were not, these statements were evaluated by the FDA. But it does have, it does have anti, antibody products. And it all comes from New Zealand, I think, right? But I don't know.

You know, and B, listen to me, I don't know how you can't just kidnap some bees from New Zealand, right? I know right maybe you can Smuggle them back in a short you need the floor and that lives in but you know most Why don't we make the floor up, bro? I know do this. You can't have a new ceiling. Hey, I'm saying Have you know that most of the be the honey like you know like in the bear honey? Yeah, that's not real honey That's not from bees. What oh, there's a whole bear you know, like in the bear honey, that's not real honey. That's not from bees.

What? Oh, there's a whole bear honey. It's good, dude. Bears make honey. Well, there's a bear bottle. It's like the, it's like the, It's not, what do you mean? I think it's wasp.

It's not actual honey, right? Or is it bees? Not only bees. Okay, well, so here's my plan, right? We all take those, you know, the flora. The New Zealand. The New Zealand flora, right? We all smuggle them back.

We get through customs. Okay. We, we, we go to one of those weed, uh, gross and we put all the plants in the, you know, and then have the honey bees do their thing and bingo, bingo, American. Go up to that. There it is. Look at this. American wagyu.

B, look at this. How much? So look out for products that are not labeled simply honey. The FDA indicates that a product that includes any added sweetener sugar cannot be labeled as honey. For example, honey product with added corn syrup should be labeled as honey blend. But if you go up towards your last thing,

honey's the third most faked food in the world. A honey laundering scheme, which helped the companies avoid 180 million in shipping duties hit the honey's true origin, leaving few to suspect that it wasn't real it was the biggest incident of food fraud in the US history more than seven years later a lot of our honey is still fake what the fuck yeah that's why that's why I buy that weird honey from New Zealand yeah 100% legit honey right it was uncut honey honey you can get in the States called really raw honey

in a jar and it's thick and yellow. And it's... They didn't think too long in the name, huh? Yeah, really. It's called really raw honey right there. That shit a bit. Oh yeah, that one's good. And it's like a wax on top.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've got that. But is it Manuka? Now Manuka's a killer. Manuka's killer. Honey's kind of a murderer. How do you guys know about this? So you know now? To me, I barely knew anything about it. No, it's a mirror. Is that Manuka's a killer. Manuka's killer. Honey's kind of a man. How do you guys know about this? So you know now?

To me, I like barely knew anything about it. It's a manuka. I was like, I thought it was a joke. Do you know how Honey's made? In other words, do you know? Bee throw up. But it comes off of bee's ass, no? Bee throw up.

I think they throw it up. They throw it up. That's a lot of it somehow. That's the case. Yeah. Some people end up that. It's bee throw up. Isn't that crazy?

Isn't that weird? Yeah, man. Well, I'm into that. So wait. So what are they? What are they doing shaking their butts on the flowers though? Get it. I know that but how do they get the in there to vomit? You know what you guys are talking terrible science They got hair on there. Oh, there we go. This guy is really getting involved. That's what I love about this guy No, honey, I saw some of the show. This guy is an invaluable member of your team, bro.

You guys need to pay this guy extra right now. Yeah, dude, he's gonna be extra. And he's just suddenly giving us, my God, bro. Honey is made from a nectar by reducing the moisture content after it's carried back to the hive. While beef store the nectar inside their honey stump mix, the nectar's not vomited or pooped out before it's honey. Well, I didn't get out there because not technically, at least.

No, no. Oh, technically. OK. Listen, bud, if we put some pollen in your mouth, right, and you just carry it over and then spit it into the jar, you didn't vomit. That's true. You just did like a little.

But it was inside their bodies. A little swamp. It was in their bodies. Mayhem, have you seen this beer knuckle fighting? Hell yeah. Are you into it? I'm into it. It's a little bit, it's interesting.

This was my argument with it. So Rogan Nettibrava for the longest, we're like MMA and there's purest form, should be beer knuckle and have no ring restrictions. They just got to fight like a regular fight. I said he can't, because the optics, the way it looks also guys don't want to break their hands or you can have a different kind of vibe

Fast forward eight years later since that conversation now. I'm the commentator for game bread beer novel so Saturday I commentate Belcher fighting No Santos is Alan Belcher. Oh my god. I'll embellished. Have you seen Alan? Belcher lately. Yeah, but yeah, I know No, you just be Roy Nelson. Yeah, but Jack. The beast, yeah. Jack. He hasn't fought. No, he just beat Roy Nelson. Oh, he did?

Yeah. Bear Knuckle. Roy Nelson fighting Bear Knuckle too. Bear Knuckle. Oh, my goodness. And JDS just beat Verdum to get the title shot. He just beat your boy Verdum. It's not a decision.

No way. Bear Knuckle boxing. Bear Knuckle MMA. Oh, MMA. MMA. This is MMA. This is MMA. Thank you for telling me because I thought it was just boxing.

Well, I think it definitely changes things. Wow, right? I think it definitely changes things. I feel like it's something you were even into. Yeah, but like, it's pretty interesting. Like, these guys making some good money. God bless America. Belcher is freaking jacked right now. Oh my God, what a monster.

And wait, where are they fighting there? Is this out in the middle of it? In Orlando. Orlando, Florida, of course, is Florida, Kia Center. Ah, man, they should fight with the alligator moat. You know what I'm saying? Don't be sick. Anyway, but like, so it's full.

It's MMA. And what they have that the tape around there. No, so I think some tape the wrist, but in general, it's just straight up. There that makes sense. You get a lot of cuts. You get more cuts. Guys are a little more tenet. I think people thought you'd see more knockouts, but guys are a little tenet.

It's like, like, well, you know, same as MMA. It's so if it's obstructing your vision, then they'll stop it. But otherwise it's no big deal. It's just like, I don't know. But you were saying, like, I thought that was interesting. You're like, I told you from day one. The big thing with grappling is to not be able to hold on to the guy's glove. Yeah, but if you're having a three round fight and you're using your hands

and you're hitting guys on the top of their head, you're going to play something. And that's what you were saying. You're like, guys are way more tentative. They're more tentative. Loading up your. You're not opening up with all your shots. Yeah, you're a little more tentative. Yeah. And turning.

That's why Mike Perry is such a savage at it, because he just has his special unique warrior skills. We can take punches, exchange better than anybody. His technique might not be flawless, but it comes in up. Well, he's the best. You don't need, you're not using jabs and check hooks. You're just coming in and going, one, two, that. I would, I would think that the guy who, um, okay.

It's just different. Like boxing is so much about your jab and working everything off a jab. And you're, I would think Oh, okay. Without just different like boxing is so much about your jab and working everything off a jab. And you're, I would think that, yeah, a guy who puts up numbers would be more successful at this bare knuckle because, you know, it's just a touch, a nice little touch can end the night. If you get them cut, cut real good on the top. You're seeing, uh, ching Google Jason night bare knuckle.

Yeah. I don't know if you guys, I don't know if you guys, you're seeing this dude's face. Yeah, I don't know if you guys did this, but like if you watched the British, the old British guys, they would practice even if they would practice. Yes, they'd catch your shot off the top of their head. I did that.

Yeah. Yeah. And then you know, do that with, with no look at that. Do that with no gloves on. Fuck man. Oh, what a delightfully handsome man. Savage.

It's just not good. Okay. Oh, okay. So this is our future. The look the cuss ugly, huh? No, thanks. Yeah, they're all I get it I like how it's all blocked like that's not safe for work Jesus Christ surgery there You know I don't I'm gonna talk to Elon Musk about getting a metal face before I go do that sport Wolverine style Yeah, hell yeah.

Adam Antium. There's a lane for it though. So there's a lane for this, then how do you feel about now? I mean, hopefully someone's, you know, Jake Paul, Logan Paul are fighting. Jake Paul definitely care more than his brother. Who is this? Jake Paul, the YouTuber. Yeah.

He was a massive YouTuber. He was a Disney kid. Nice transition to boxing. I know this guy. Yeah, he beat up Woodley. He beat up Ben Astrakhan. Didn't he hang a guy in Japan or something. That's Logan Paul found a guy. He found a guy I didn't hang out. No, okay. Yeah, no, I was his brother though But now Jake Paul is doing like I mean as legit as he can like he's fighting real boxers, you know such a handsome

General is good looking Logan. Yeah Wait, who's the more handsome? Logan some gentlemen. Logan, yeah. Wait, who's the more handsome? Logan. Jake's the better boxer. What? Yeah. Okay.

Well, like maybe we have different types. Oh, man. So anyway, what are you talking about these boys for? You guys can be broad. I was just saying, are you familiar with, like I was saying, there's different lanes since you've been fighting that popped up. I know, yeah. The influence boxing. No, this is a thing. I forgot it was the pole. How since you've been fighting that popped up. Yeah, I know. The influence box. The influence boxing.

No, this is the thing. I forgot it was the pole. How do you feel about it with the influence boxing? But this is the way that things are going. You know what I mean? You can be a boxing snob. Yeah. And I'm telling you, like.

You want to watch people fight who have a compelling story and that you know. Yes. Boom. This guy has a bunch of guys. That's it. A compelling story and that you know. Yes. Boom. This guy has a bunch of guys. That's it. A bunch of people that know him. That's what people don't understand. That's it.

Or do they like him? Are they interested? Do they want to see him win? It's like more compelling. You know, if you, you know, if you ask a normal guy on the street, hey, you want to watch your neighbor fight somebody or this superstar who's awesome at boxing. They've never heard of. You've never heard of you'd never heard of you don't know Who he is and nobody around you is saying and you know if you don't have this marketing

You know the connection like you guys are been in the sport a long time So you know all the cool guys. Yeah, who's the badass and there's some guys that you know They're for every Conor McGregor. There's like You know a boatload of tough ass Brazilians who say three words. Yeah, you know what I mean? But they're never gonna get a paddle shot. Yeah, you know, and that's true. Yeah.

We get below Muhammad. But sometimes, but there's some guys that just, you know, that are the casual. Yep. And this guy has taken casual to the next level. To the extreme. Yeah. Like casual is now normal. He's taken his fan base and done that, yeah. Like casual is now normal.

He's taken his fanbicks and done that, yeah. You know, because if you put him in the regular boxing ranks. Be tough. You know, it'll be a very, yeah, tough road to hope. But he made his own road, you know. And I kind of, I kind of was like bitter against this at the outset, but I'm like, hey, bud, like all the fight sports are like this. The reason you got the big opportunities was because you made the fans love you,

correct, you know, through your performances and also through marketing. So my space, you know, a million years ago, you know, talking smack, like saying, Hey, let's do this monkey cult forever. And, you know, I, I, I, if I didn't have those people, the monkey cult, like coalesce around me 20 years ago, I would have never got all the big opportunities. So, you know, is that monkey cult stuff still around? Yeah, of course.

It never dies. I get people screaming out of my face every once in a while still. And for a long time time I like disappeared from that because you know like we were talking about earlier where you know you're, oh I lost this fight, I blew my knee out, I hate fighting now, I don't care about this. And then you get back into the gym

and you see the young guys and it brings you back up and then you get some weird fans scream or in jail one time monkey call forever and I was like oh what in jail in jail something like smoke out black dude look like the leaping of sparses scream out of my face oh through the door through the door and it like stuck would be I was like oh wow I did something yeah I need to do something with jail could you talk as a white dude as a wood or whatever? I'm you able to talk to other races now that jail is different prison. I mean prison

It's thought I couldn't be friends the black guys openly. I could I worked You know when I worked at the gym of my best buddy was a black guy like excellent athlete like NC double to a Basketball star and just jacked dude that we would work out every day. And this guy got in a road rage incident. Some dude jumped out and he just think and like killed him. Damn, I know. He's your life or a man. No, no, he got manslaughter.

So it was like a bunch of years that he just. Yeah, exactly. But you know what I mean? Like that instructive to me like, like whoa like God was showing me like hey bud you getting on the fight and there you go That's right. Yeah, you know you lose 12 years of your life. So yeah, you know But like it was weird because at work We're right next to each other. We will grapple in the back like we're doing we were fighting each other all the time It's not great. It was fun, but like out of the yard. He's over there. I'm over here

Yeah, I think you know the worst part of prison is the worst part of prison is that you you can't be yourself You have to be this weird Yeah, racist version of yourself and and the cops like it's been like that for so long that it's an institution like this Like that's the, you have to, and then Mexican guys all hang out the Mexican guy. And you know, you get these like slivers of humanity, but when you're all alone, you know what I mean? You'll play cards or whatever or like chat with each other.

And then, but when your team shows up, you gotta be back on your team. You can't share food with the blacks. It's like terrible. It's like takes your humanity away. That's a little tribal. It takes your humanity away. Yeah, it sucks.

It really sucks. And you know, and even that extended too, because like I said, I went to Rich Guy Rehab. It was like, yeah, I went to poor guy rehab. And that tribal is a rear to suggly head again. Oh, interesting. Even in rehab. Yeah, because dudes were coming out of jail and prison

So you know guys were ankle monitors on yeah, it was like a weird So I did this thing with these a bunch of these black Athletes and when the cameras were not on they were so fucking cool And we were laughing and having a great time. The minute the cameras came on, they just- You're a white devil. They would not want, they would not fuck with me. That's another thing. And I was like, damn, you guys are like, they were just like, they had to represent or something.

I know, I get it. Like I understand as much as I can as like a white guy, you know? I understand. I told them, if I was black black I'll probably hate white people like because they would represent They would represent this Larger thing maybe that no well. I'm talking about in this current sure I'm it the way things are going and the way Everybody is like sliced down the half. I don't look at it like that right like I can see why White people are pushing back against the woke thing. Yes, I get it

Why white people are pushing back against the woke thing? Yes, I get it It's like offending your sensibilities. Yeah, so people I get it I get and I also get why black people are pushing back because we're hyper Propaganda is right there. We are like like you're I don't even really look at Facebook but I get that everybody looks at Facebook and everybody is like You know that that echo chamber thing, the beating to their drum and everybody is all marching towards this election. Like we're some kind of enemies, but I look at it way different. Like we're talking about like the Amazon and those Disney, those few companies.

That dude, I'm looking at it. It's us versus the rich people. Correct. And it's like, that's how it is. Yeah. Like, it's the elite. You want to hear a stat. And then like, and we're none of you are elite.

None of you. Because it's only like such a small, Zuckerberg, you know what I mean? And did anybody talk to him? I really want to get in there. I think you know. I love you, buddy. You can change the world.

This is all you got to know as far as the stats concerned. I think you know, I love you. This is all you got to change the world This is all you got to know as far as the stats concerned. I think you know this 2019 right before the George Floyd riots how many unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019 in the United States is it four it was 12 and That that's that's astonishing if you think about the lift up having one million a lot more If you look at the how many the 10 million arrests at least, that is incredible police work. That's astronomical. And they made them villains.

Correct. And so that's what I mean by the, so when you see a revolution, when you see this progressive ideology take hold, my issue is it's not built on facts, it's not true. But then they gaslight it. And they go, look, we have a real problem over here But look at this race relations this one's once in 2013 social media started becoming a thing with everybody

race relations were People first of all race relations have never been better in a lot of ways But people started thinking that race relationships at an all-time high even historically because it's highlighted by social media And you see promoted by now algorithms and if you look for that stuff then you see more of that stuff right but everybody knows that what the news is saying versus what you see in real life is fucking different if I was just a little more crazy my Twitter feed bro you'll want to storm the capital yeah you're like yo we're screwed yes white man screwed you watch it like holy shit man or

already did that or all screw his people You know, but what happened? I don't buy it. No, I'm saying I don't buy it I just think that the media is paid you get clicks by creating Creating energy we're back to that again back to that but it also takes a special person go. Okay. This isn't yeah This isn't reality. This is just they're trying to gas like me The only reason that I have this perspective is I've been disconnected where they didn't have very good Wi-Fi. Yeah. I'm stepping into this new.

So I like I everybody to me has gone buck ass fucking crazy. Like I look at everything like, oh, wow, you guys really have gotten more tribal than, uh, than you were two years ago. How long you been out? Like, I don't know, four or five months? Yeah. Four months, I don't know. But like, it's been crazy.

You missed it crazy. Yeah, it's a whole, I know, I missed the whole era. Like I missed this whole, I missed it. They have. This, yeah, this transition. You do have to wear masks in jail doing it. Yeah. What?

All the time. Buddy. Even in the yard? No. No, but like we're still Not nobody did it. No, like how they gonna force. Yeah, who's gonna the bunch of psychos like yeah, you know I mean like the Cops like The cops didn't even turn in there for life. I wish I Know but hey the guy who's in life the older guy older guy, my celly, he wore a mask.

He wore like all the time. I was like, what are you doing? It's really, you don't want to spill the drink? Every time he left, every time he left, he's like, nah, I ain't fucking around. He's like, you didn't want to get that fucked down. You know what I'm saying? No, listen, they locked down the downstairs one time

over the building I was in, okay? The guys were writing a bunch of, you know, getting on paper, they call it, like against the cops in there. So they just locked them down for like a COVID lockdown for months until somebody died. And then they let him out. Damn, I know.

It was a nightmare. I was like, really? They just locked you guys down. And then the day this, cause like a ambulance just showed up on the yard while I'm looking out the little slit window. I'm like, oh man, ambulance. Yeah, man.

Man, the guy had a funny name to like Chappy or something Chappy died I'm like what all that sucks like yeah but now we're off a quarantine I'm like everyone's happy but yeah I died but damn Chappy had a lot of recourse do you have that what are you gonna tell run write your letters I had another letter I locked you down for two more months. Yeah, brother. Oh man. What a nightmare Wait, we were talking about racism and this is black history month. So I think you guys should pay over that No, it's not we're talking about much first. It's March almost almost much first. This is a leap day. You got damn right Yeah, he's got a point happy black history month. You damn right

Your favorite black white guy. I know. Yeah, people try to call me racist. I was like, no, I'm ghetto, but not racist. I know, but it's so like a weird, uh, it's weird. I'm mad at the internet. I'm mad at the internet for getting us against each other when we're like, this is all designed. It's all designed design yeah all design what do you mean by who listen to people because then we're not we're not focused on the real issues

we're fighting each other when there's real issues going on I know so so we're distracted with this nonsense pronouns all this bullshit yeah but none of it's real, but I'm of the opinion that let they Call they whatever most people are 99.9% but the online on my Twitter on my Twitter everybody's fired up It's not real. It's not real blaming the the little Dave for getting killed by her classmates You don't even know how much of that is that Russian boss by bots and because they want us fighting they want it they want oh they're winning they're winning man I saw the movie with Julia Roberts that was exactly this where they like foster on the anger that did that with all kinds

of stuff like that there's there are agents in different countries foreign agents that do this kind of stuff but when you have sheep who get on there like oh my god, this is too. No, but don't, you know, you can't call them sheep because they're our brothers, sisters, mothers, and even us. Like I don't think anybody is, the only reason I was immune was because I was in a box

and like, you know what I mean? My cell phone was smuggled in someone's ass. So it wasn't the best quality iPhone. That's hard. Cell phone in your ass is difficult. Difficult. So is that personal? So I didn't get to be a part of the internet. And now that I'm here, I'm really witnessing that even me, I see my, I'm addicted to that thing. Like, I'm like, oh my.

Right when you got out here. No, now that I'm here on the internet for real, it's like, because I love it. That's a dopamine hint. The big thing is that I've read a boatload of books because I was stuck where you couldn't, you couldn't, man, all of her sacks collection, you know who this is? Yes I do.

Yeah, this guy's excellent. And I'll be very happy to take any book recommendations That's really cool. Just to get me all the sacks off of the shit. He was also a power lifter. He did have the body for it, but I didn't know that. That's interesting. He did have the body.

Oh my God. How badass would it have been to see Neil DeGrasse, Tyson, first Oliver Sacks in their prime? Yes, Oliver Sacks was fucking a gay guy. He got really, really strong. Yeah, yeah. And then he studied those baboons forever. Did you read the one about baboons?

Oh my goodness. This guy is brilliant. forever. Did you read the one about baboons? Oh my goodness. This guy is brilliant. Yeah. Did you read any Alan Watts? Yeah, but this guy, uh, I could hear his voice. Yeah, he's jacked in. Yeah, yeah. Jacked as fuck.

Uh, well, duh, he was gay. Yep. Yeah. What's wrong with you guys? You don't got kids or nothing to worry about. You just get it right there. Jacked all the time. Yeah, yeah.

Jesus Christ. That's not real. No Christ. That's not real. That's not real. I think it's a Photoshop. This guy was ejecting baboon sperm in his butt. Yeah, that ain't real. Something. This guy is so Jack.

That's not real, bro. That's Arnold frigging Schwarzenegger. When he was older. Yeah, that's Arnold's body. Yeah, come on, bud. I know that package anywhere. No, that's not Arnold's body, I promise. That's not him, Brian.

You want to bet? I promise you that's not him. That's definitely Photoshopped. That's AI. AI come on bud. That's a mid journey They got you though No pictures of him very thick lifting not our swordsman Why wouldn't he is a scientist I agree I want that's what I want AI to do. AI's, I want AI's more wisdom, get me more muscular and more hair. Dude, ask chap, GPT, they can do it.

Seriously. Wait, why don't you just go to Turkey if you need more hair? That's why I always tell them. Cowboy did that. Cowboy did that. This guy is smart, bro. Cowboy did that and he has a full set of hair?

I know. I just don't know if I, I just don't have the energy. Dude, I've been taking monoxide deal and just putting it on my downstairs so I got that 70. Yeah, 70. Yeah, yeah, but then I shave it off. Dude, I'm taking monoxidilin now. I'm putting it on my hair.

Does it help? I don't know. It takes a lot of time. I think it's doing it. It's doing the, yeah, you're good, bro. Don't stress about it. Now you got this. What do you got?

I do a sofa. Oh, positive ass. I love this guy. You got this. Oh my God, you got this. I have competition with my buddy, positive ass. I love this guy. You got this. Oh my god. You got this. I have competition with my buddy Chris, you get to 100 pull-ups faster. Yeah.

I'm so fucking sore and it's two days later. That's the problem with being 57. You get, you do not recover. Don't recover as fast. You don't. It drives me fucking nuts. You get more, I got a warm up. You'd be sore.

Anyone does 100 pull-ups? Man, you guys got a boatload of new genics in the thing, man. You should have chopped those up like snort them or something. That's a shit point. Chop it up. Take some new genics. the thing man. You should have chopped those up like snort them Take some new genics. I forgot to take my creatine today. Yeah, creatine. Hell yeah old school That's what I'm talking about. I want to get some current events in pop. Yeah, we got a couple I got this episode of the firing kid is brought to you by progressive insurance. Let's face it sometimes multitasking and be overwhelming

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He runs these camps. He had one camp a kid talking shit to him Some some like a year old starting shit to me his butt. I was NFL MVP Love it's like yeah, ten years ago. He's like does it matter? Why does he get so much? I don't know. I don't know. This thing is called C1. The worst part is it's a 15 and under league. So these are kids and he got into a heated argument with the team, his team was playing against

and had a straight out brawl. With a 15 year old? No, with the other coach, look. People don't realize how big, so Cam's an inch taller than me and probably 240 lean. I've been around this dude. Savva's super excuse me So yeah, Heisman still one picking that up Well that makes you a target right there Andre 3000 oh Andre 3 million look at my god

But it is ridiculous that people fuck with them Listen, but not the one to fuck people all the time. You know what I mean? You don't I don't get why he always has these issues though. I don't I don't know what's going on People always want to test them. I don't get it. Well, look, dude when you're helping out in the hood Sometimes you run into hood people. Yeah, you know what I mean? Jealousy to he's crushing it and people are keeping it real goes wrong. Yeah, I mean you Gotta I gotta take the hats off. No pun intended.

He didn't take his hat off. For that. He didn't even lose his hat. That's what's impressive. If I was gonna get in a bra with him, I would have snatched off that. That's a good point. He didn't lose his hat.

How impressive. That wicked. This is like bully beat down though. He would be in his ass. Yeah, here's the thing is, you find civilians, it's like a different, you know, I remember some guy tried to beat me up at 7-Eleven. I just snatched, I like snatched him by his hair

to the ground, threw him on the ground. And then he's like, ah, and I was like, yeah, enough of that. And just walked off. I just snatched him right to his knees. Like, he's like, we're pulling hair now? I'm like, yeah, it's a street fight. Now get out of here.

You just snap him down. Yeah, I just gave him a head snap. You know, I never even, oh man. I bet he went back home and he was like, what happened? He was like, I just. I'll be honest when, when, when Dov David off, I will, I have one confession. When Dov tried to single leg me and I put him in a wizard

and he couldn't move. And, and he goes, Jason, what would you do when I put you when I put you in a wizard and you grab my leg? I did think I was gonna be able to I swear to God This is why bully beat down was created. I did show after all these years wrestler Yeah, but you do though. I thought my way though my wizard would be like you know, but I was I was just funny Because I'll wear you by a high school

I'm not gonna like I can't believe magic Johnson blocked my shot but in my mind wrestler and you're talking guys like this course you don't consider you a wrestler course so when you go I can't believe my wizard work for me you know the wizard my wrestler you've always been a wrestler Harry fucking and you have my back you're the only person in the world. I'm trying, bro. But I thought for a second that I'd be able to kind of keep you at bay, and then you ended up, what you did is you took the whole checkerboard

and picked it up like you picked me up. You picked me up in the air. It's weird. It's like you got paid to do it. Yeah, that was a little weird. That's what's like you're a smart dude. But it was in front of my wife. That's what I was like.

And I was like, and my legs curled under my little toes curled under her. You got me in the air. I was like, whew. And then double it. Ah! And we were like, oh jeez, and then you let me down. Like Brian would ask me or get just some random dude. Like, you know, a thick guy, like how do you think you do

against him in a fight? I'm like, pretty good, I think. Does he fight? He's like, no, I'm like, not well, dude. I would test you a little bit. I would like to test him sometimes. Poke the old bear. Get in there. We'd be, you'd be taking a nap bit. I would like to test him sometimes. Poke the old bear, get in there. We'd be, I'd be taking a nap though.

I'd get in that judo, I'd sit out, fucking deep headlock or head and arm. I mean, I mean like, look at my Gable grip. Fucking head down like that. And he'd go, hee hee hee. And then he'd fuck it up. No, that shit doesn't work on him. So some of these are from last week

cause we didn't get to cover them But so do you know the porn star Cagney Lynn Carter? No, but I'd like to okay. No, but she passed away She killed herself and it's a super sad story, but I mean you did with a shot and remember I man She's got some off. She's pretty man. She's very pretty. Yeah, but like she ain't pretty no more Yeah, so you're in a catch-up the way she took her life was with a shotgun in the mouth well that's not a know where to like she posted pictures a few days before of her well statistically most suicides are not like this long drawn out like I'm depressed I'm depressed

this do it a moment it's a momentary, you know, decision impulse. So like remember that, that feeling will pass if you just get past it. Man, that's so true. Talk more about that. Well, I think that the thing is is that- Super pretty. Making this impulse decision, especially, you know,

I don't know if she was drinking or drugs or whatever. There's no sign of foul play, no drugs. What do you mean foul play? It's pretty foul to put a shotgun in your mouth. I mean, she did it herself if someone else did it. But I mean, as far as they know, who knows if the toxicology reports come in later, but for now there's no signs of drugs.

Well, yeah, it's just... I mean, that's pretty bummer, but thanks for bumming me out a lot. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Any other breaking news for us? How long was she big in the early 2000s? She was, dude, I watched her. I don't remember lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

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that, but it's never really a good idea. Like they always have those reports of people jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge and surviving. And they always said, I regret it. As soon as I was in there, shouldn't it jump? Well, there's a guy who lit himself in fire in front of the Israeli embassy. This is the breaking news that I just saw this morning. And I get it, he really believes in his cause.

And that self-emoliation has been like, I mean, that's a badass. He said self-emoliation, did he die? Oh yeah. I mean, did he die? Yeah, he died and the greatest thing was the cops pointing their guns at him. I mean, I get it, he had two firearms.

Whoa, he livestreamed his protest. In Washington? In front of the embassy airmen. Damn. Active duty airmen too. Wow. He might have been US Air Force. Wow.

But he wasn't even Arabic or anything. No, but he believed in this. Bushnell 25. Well, because it really seems like our government has taken the side of the Israelis and it's very interesting that we're doing that. This guy sounds like he was a little bit like again, this is different cause he, his, his, his descriptions of what he thinks is actually

going on there were very extreme. So I don't know how, how sound, wait, but what, what's extreme about it? I don't know what happened because like, well, he says, I don't know. The last I heard was like 30,000 people, civilians dead. That's a lot of civilians to kill. It's a lot. It's a lot.

And I mean, they're saying the word genocide. I don't know what really. Genocide is not, I would argue with that word, but. But like, okay, if I, what neighborhood are we in right now? You're in Gore, like your Gore Hills. Okay, so if I just like raised a Gore Hills, right? You'd say that I was like genocide in these people, no? No, I don't know.

I don't know. There's a little different part. I don't even know what opinion to have. I'm not saying you shouldn't be, your heart shouldn't go out to the Gazans and the innocent Palestinians. Palestinians, that's the word. To talk about, but I just think this is this is

This is very extreme for a guy who is in the United States So it's in something's going on there, right? Like when the Buddhist monk did it in 1963 He was from Vietnam. He was protesting GM's Treatment of the Buddhists. It was a very, he was also in a low distance. He didn't move, he just died. Well, this goes with the theme that we're talking about. That the internet is like, you know,

the type of guy who goes to serve his country, it takes a special man. I always, one of my biggest regrets is that, I know I chose a life of glory to go and fight professionally instead of go join the army, which was like my plan all through high school. Like I was gonna do. Oh really?

Yeah, but my dad was like training me for it, but like a few little, the internet, the internet changed me off of it because not only did it give me a community of, we called it No Holds Barred back then, NHB, you know? Not only did it give me that community to hype me up to be like, oh, I can do this. I can, I'm already good at fighting.

Let me try. It also showed my dad, who was a long, like 20 year army vet, it showed him that war is kind of a racket and we're doing the work of the rich corporations. You know, he went to Iraq, part one and saw what they were doing. What was the they were doing and it kind of messed them up. Like,

what was he in the arm? The third of five of fifth, uh, he was a, uh, uh, tank killer. Like they, you drive this big gun behind a Humvee and you look at a map and shoot it over the hill and obliterate everything and then drive through what you just did. So it's like, you know, you have enough. You see it. You see it after you, you know, and so it really kind of screwed him up

and he'll admit it, you know, he'll admit that that. So he was in the army for 20 years. Yeah. So he raised you with a lot of discipline. Listen, like I set up a lot of discipline listen like I I set up a caper when I was 15 to like steal some plywood To to build a skateboard ramp and got caught because the stoner that was driving the car Turned the car turned the lights on the the cops like they were driving by where we almost got away with it, but we didn't. And my dad busted my ass into Miller Boot Camp. I woke up at 530 and did PT and like,

I know, and ran like, like, ran my like 12 miles with him. And this guy's like 40 years old, something like just running me into the dirt, like make me screaming in my face, you know, the full on army experience at home in suburbia. Wow. So yeah. And your mom, your mom was in the picture? I mean, my mom went to work and was like,

like shaking her head like. Are you ready to start again? Yeah, no. I mean, that's the whole another story. They got the board like Way late like when I was 30 something like I go. Yeah, like there's so many weird stories guys are spinning me off of but the The same that same summer That I mean the next year after I took the asfab and I scored off the freaking charts. They were telling me

You could get a job $120,000 a year. I didn't even know if that was a lot. I was like, is that a lot? I was just like some skateboard kid and you could be in the nuclear submarine program and that same summer my uncle died of like radiation poison, leukemia from working on on the nuclear submarine. So it's just these all these little coincidences said stopped me from serving in a scale and I really respect the military. I'm involved with this program called MVP. It's emerging veterans and pros. So it's pro athletes, ex-pro athletes and veterans and then so we have it's like a big it's pro athletes, ex-pro athletes, and veterans. And then so we have, it's like a big, it's a really,

man, it's one of the strongest, like, now that I've been out and I've been through rehab and, you know, it's one of my strongest support systems. These guys, they're all veterans, I really respect them, and they're doing really good work for people that need help. Because, you know, it's kind of like being a fighter. Once you get out of the army, I mean, at least they have that they can go to the VA.

Right. We don't got nothing like that. You know what I mean? I'm going to pension. So it's like, it really, it gives me a chance to help the guys that I wanted to be like for so many. I mean, when I was like five, my dad was like giving me a stick

and like teach me how to, you know, dig a fox hole. And like, I thought like, that was like such a big part of my life that I didn't even think about college because I'm going to the army. I'm going to the army. I'm going to the army. And then that summer the army, I'm going to the army and then that summer 15, 16 I was like I'm gonna fight. Did he love watching you get really famous

and good at fighting? Yeah, yeah, I mean look he he told me you're a damn dumbass go to computer school and I was like no I'm gonna fight he's like nobody gives a shit about that go to computer school and I was like no. Even today you'd be like what you gonna fight? I know and then it will, you know, he tried his anaboxin, it was pretty tough boxer. But then he went and sparred with a guy who just smashed him and he was like, enough. That guy went to the Olympics later.

So he, but he didn't understand that. He'd understand that there's levels. And if you haven't been doing it since you're a little kid Different day, it's much different. I watched that happen to my friend He was gonna take some he's gonna start taking fights because he played it's like a little bit of pro hockey He was big and really rugged and he got him with just some guy But this just some guy had a lot of experience and he got really fucked up You know, I mean, but they're both really big, but Jesus.

He gets in there with six foot five black guy. And he just went, sit, sit, sit, sit. And I was like, oh no, his head was just going, wow, that's the... And that's why I try to avoid though, because I coach the kids at some different gyms. And some guys I coach from, oh man, little kids. I coach from little kids all the way up to like pro fighters.

And when they're younger, you want this guy to like maybe have a challenge, but not to get smashed out of the gym. Yeah, you don't get hurt. Yeah, you don't, you know, you can, you kill his confidence too early, but then as they get some confidence, then you need to get him smashed a little bit.

When he's already hooked on fighting, you gotta get him smashed, because those guys get cocky. If you keep sparring him against guys that he can beat up, then he never... You know Eddie, what's his name? Who's the famous? Teddy Atlas is talking about that.

Teddy Atlas said, he would always, like he'd bring his young guys, his young fighters, and he'd be like, I need to see this other guy hit mitts. Cause they'd be like, oh, how much experience does your guy have? And when you parallel up, a lot of guys would be like, nah, he doesn't have much. Meanwhile, he's had 30 fights.

My guys had three fights. It's like, come on dude. Like, let me see him hit mitts. Let me see him move around before I put my guy. Yeah, and they bring you up slowly so you don't get, you know, yeah. And that's the way it should be, Donald. Do you think that the UFC's doing more of that now?

Are they taking? The UFC's doing more of that now. They've learned their lesson. They've learned their lesson. It's not to burn people. They should just throw guys to the Wolverines, and now they kinda, because they're ruining stars.

You know, they destroy the guy's confidence, they never bounce back. They're doing better now. Sugar Sean, they did better. Howdy Pamlet, they're doing better with. Yeah., they did better. Howdy Pimlet, they're doing better with. Yeah. Those guys are big stars, huh? I saw them before I went away.

And I was like, oh, these guys are awesome. Like, this is cool. And now I come back and I keep seeing them in the feed, you know? I don't know how to follow them, but they're ubiquitous. That time, that time that you, you're like in Jake Shield's face. He's interviewing and you just show up with your fucking red hair, you're like in Jake Shields face.

He's interviewing you to show up with your fucking red hair you had. Like that, and then you're like, what the fuck? And then you start fighting DS brothers. Yeah, I single handedly got, I love to make a strong TV. At Strike Force? Yeah.

Strike Force is funnier. I think you and Nick are in a fight with Nate. Yeah, yeah, that was wild. Yeah, crazy ass moment. What'd you have to fight him? With Nick? No that night. Well, see, here's the thing is I kind of get a lot of guff for that. But at the time, uh, it was Nashville. I had, they said, Hey, uh, you know, cause me and Jake, uh, had a title fight and, you know, I, I lost it by like slim margin. He had tech taken me down at the end, but I fight and you know, I lost it by like slim margin.

He had taken me down at the end, but I like, you know, almost got him and second round and so they're going to have a rematch. So they told me, yeah, if, uh, if you, um, smash your guy in the fight, then we'll have a rematch. I text my manager was like, Hey, do I go in and ask for my rematch and he just texted me back yes I just jumped in there and went went for it and she saw me and was like hey what you want your rematch you know and then that's the result I fought the entire team yeah you know average Saturday night for me You know

No, no, I shot a double-ing and took down his brother Yeah, the trick is when you're getting in a big bra like this you Jump you need to grab on to somebody so that they can't really stop you out. So that's what I did Fucking yeah, yeah I forgot about can't really stomp you out. So that's what I did. Look at that, it's just like fucking, they're all coming at you. Yeah, yeah. Ha ha ha ha. I forgot about that. I mean, the CS brothers and Jake,

they're gonna fight you right now. Yeah, that's pretty badass. That's hilarious. But yeah, I got out of there. And my dad called me immediately and was like, he was watching on CBS, he's like, you're a miller, ain't ya? You're gonna fight everybody, huh?

I'm like, yeah, apparently. How's the play? Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, those are. Oh, let's just... Yeah, let's do... Come on, give us one more if someone not dying. Rap a fight.

I know. Rap a fight. Give us one more if someone not dying. Let's do a... Two really quick ones. So this is just Machine Go Kelly. I guess the newest trend right now is Blackout tattoos. So he blocked out his entire upper half of his body.

See, he's got a black his body and not black face. Interesting. But even Kat Von D did it as well. Cause you know, be, you know, way back in the days, tattoos were like, whoa, that looks crazy. But now everyone has tattoos. So this guy just like the newest thing under armor. He went, uh,

wait straight up blacked out his entire guy is just like permanently in a gimp suit then the promise is yeah the promise is the fad right so and that's the newest thing it's the most shocking thing now you know I mean some of them cap on these that she did it to cover up tattoos she no longer a lot of yeah the guys I know I have like a half sleeve that's all black it's just to cover up That's not a bad look. I mean, you really want to go for it. He looks like you're a huge Venom fan. He's a lot of work.

It is a lot of work. Hat lives matter. That would take forever. Fuck dude, let me see. I hit him before. Let me see him before. Right there. That's a lot of work too.

That's a lot of stuff. It's just a lot of business. Yeah, he just like covered up a bunch of... Yeah, the tattoos were not great in the first place. Yeah, I can. No, that's cool. I see his. Yeah, anyway, yeah, the influencer to he's a singer.

He's a singer rapper who was and but that's Kat Von D. I mean, I'm not mad at catchers cover. Yeah, that was pretty dope on cat. It does. Man, this is pretty interesting pretty interesting yeah it seems like a a lot of work you just you know did to like just cover it up it would take forever and like what they have a tattoo gun this like this wide and just like yeah yeah just paint yeah man ladder day stank that's wild all right so this is the last one. Apparently this is in Florida. It's just these cops.

How they handle the situation is crazy. And the police dog actually bit the cop, didn't get the, you know, the person that was running away. I'll just show you. So it's playing with that. Oh, you know what's funny is, I have seen this video. You have. And I was thinking that they need to put the Benny Hill music.

And they did. Yeah. So I guess try and get away from the cops? Yeah, so check it out. Just watch this entire thing. It's insane Four stars so this oh god now five stars look the police dog attacks the cop Yeah, no I was in the joint with guys who got bit up by the dog man. It's pretty horrific tore up Oh, yeah, they really they give you the business the police car hits the other police car guys nice

And then we're gonna be over and It's that car is that car. Oh, yeah, then you forgot to put the car in Or is it car? Oh And look at that this semi just barely passed by Is that a cop that fell yeah? No, that's Everybody calm down. This is the this is the assailment You know what a little more cardio. Look at the dog.

The police dog just runs next to him. Hunk and dogs. That just tackles him. Oh, jeez, dude. He just gassed. He would have got away. The dog, he would have got away. You would have got a cardio.

You would have got away. If Mayhem trained that dog, that definitely wouldn't have happened. That was a Mayhem trained dog. I would like to coach that dog. This is the last one. This is the last one. She a boy Chuck mayhem. No, I didn't see this.

He's just chilling talking to two kids that aren't interested in the conversation and falls off the boat. Oh, man. Chuck's all fired up. Chuck's like, yeah, whoa! Aw, man. This dude just, like, he did the modern day dab on him right now. He gave him a weird... I love that these two young kids don't know who he is. okay I don't have to sick-ass boat oh yeah a boat is from the future they didn't know he fell off but it took like it took several

minutes they couldn't get Couple? I guess I'm getting my... Oh, that's really... Yeah, that was... So it took forever, but they eventually got... Got us back on the boat. Got us back on the rescue team to get Chuck out of the damn drink, huh? Those kids were like, Yeah, very cool man, have a good night. He's like, yeah, the thing, oh!

Wait, where? The context, though. Like, why is he on this super boat, you know? Well, like, who are these kids that weren't... They probably made him to be there. It's in San Diego, by the way. San Diego Bay, I think. Man, good for Chuck.

Some dads like, I eat the ice cream for your birthday. And they're like, who the fuck? Yeah, who's the ice man, dad? Oh, man. Well, Bayham, we love your brother. Oh, God bless you guys, man. You got to keep this train going, brother. Don't let us down.

You got a lot of people rooting for you. We're going, dude. I'm good. Louisville Comedy Club this weekend, Friday, Saturday. I'll see you there in Louisville and Bricktown Comedy Club March 15, 16 in Tulsa, dude. I'm good. Louisville Comedy Club this weekend, Friday, Saturday. I'll see you there in Louisville and Bricktown Comedy Club, March 15, 16 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Double Bricktown. Double Bricktown, baby.

Then Bricktown in April 26 and 27. Then Fire and the Kid Live, our annual residency in Austin goes down March 29, 7.30. That's a Friday. Once you're only at 7.30 in Austin, Texas. Brian Callen and myself are back in Austin. This Saturday, if you're around the Orlando area, I will be at the Gamebred, Beer Knuckle,

World Championship fight between Junior Dos Santos and Alan Belcher. Come say what's up. So come check it out. Man, we love you, brother. Has anybody told you guys you're really good at this? Ha ha! We've been done in a couple minutes.

You're good at this. I'm glad to see you, brother. Thank you. Come back again, dude. Love you, man. God bless.