The Fighter & The Kid - Jorge Masvidal Offers Brendan Schaub A FIGHT! | TFATK Ep. 915

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

Jorge Masvidal offers Brendan a fight in his Gamebred Bareknuckle promotion and Bryan wants to corner him. Also, the guys talk Jorge being willing to sign a waiver to fight Conor McGregor while Conor is on the "sauce", potentially boxing Ben Askren, Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz predictions, Jorge's thoughts on wanting Tony Ferguson to retire, his offer to spar Leon Edwards, which fighters will fight for the next BMF belt, being buddies with Trump and much more! House Of Macadamias - For a limited time, Fighter and the Kid listeners a free box of 45% macadamia snack bars - one of each flavor - when you visit houseofmacadamias.com/tfak plus 20% off your entire order with code TFAK

Yes we did, because we got it again. It's the fighter in the kit. This is really the fighter in the kit. Come on, mate. We got a very special guest on the fighter in the kit today. It is Trump's favorite fighter. Jorge Mazbadaal. Kind of everybody's favorite fighter.

Let's be honest. Yeah, but it's special on the Trump's favorite fighter. You and, uh, you and Praikovsky, right? Yeah, but he's been to two of my fights and on the Kobe show. It's a fair point. Do you think I feel feel like he sides with you a little bit I'm saying You'll never hear mention Colby did anything from in the election numerous times interview after interview He's mentioned how I which I don't think I helped them but I he always gives me a lot of credit for Florida for the Latin community Flo my and you know so

Obviously, I mean it's on both sides now, you know, on the personal and business. There's a new flow respect, yeah. When you're out there, though, and you have people like Trump and you have these movie stars and stuff. Does that ever, do you ever think about that when you're about to fight? Does that ever get in your head?

When it seriously could have got to my head was, when I fought Nate Diaz, so the rock was giving the belt, my favorite fighter of all time, the only guy that, that, uh, they're when I seen, I was like, fucking, they didn't even want to look him in the eye. I can't believe it's fucking. Robert Durant's just walking out with me and then, and then Trump was saying, Kate's out. So before the fight, I just didn't care. I like, completely 100% just zeroed out. And I was like, I'll, I'll have fun with all that at the end of that. Whatever the results are for right now I'm here for a fist fight. I don't give a fuck who came who didn't come if my mom came I don't give a fuck

I'm just here to fight and you beat the right sofa. Yeah, you gotta be selfish. Yeah, beat that try to kill it. Yeah You know I would give some of those rounds 10 eight easy man, but when you said that your faith your the fire You couldn't look in the eye who was it wrong?? Roe Tudoran, you know, I could look in the eye, but initially it was like, man, who's the fighter? Oh, Roberto Duran. Oh, Roberto Duran. Oh, yeah. I was saying the rock is the rock.

I was like, hey, Roe Tudoran, too loose on the term fighter, when it's on the rock of the fight, I enjoy the guy myself. I'm like fighter, I'm like, you beat the shit, I mean, no, no, yeah. I'm talking about Roe Tudoran, man. The greatest light weight of all time.

That's when I first met him right there, and I first saw, I was like, holy smith, meeting this dude, okay. It makes total sense that that would be your favorite fighter. Man, it was just like, I couldn't believe I was there, me and him. And then I got to hang out with him the night before, my fight he went with us to have dinner,

and we're talking, and he's like saying stories And I just said joking and like punch me in the leg, you know and the first time I was a holy smokes Like you know, I was like cool little stinger. He did it like three four more times. I had to tell him you know Fucking wreck my leg Fight tomorrow. Yeah, it was just one after another and you fucking just a dense and that was in Miami, right? No, that was in New York Was it in New York? Yeah, that's right. I mean I'm not vital that's right. You think about Durant who fought Iran Barclay at I think 67. Yeah 67 He was 38 years old is crazy man. Just would fight anybody. What you're kind of the same way

Yeah, if there was an incarnation of Roberta ran he but he did it all the weights to you know Yeah, he started I think I like one thirty went all the way to, you know, he started I think at like one 30, went all the way to 168. Yeah, he's unbelievable. I was unbelievable. Yeah. You seem like you're in, I guess we, I can't, you could say you retired from UFC,

but you're not really retired. You're, I mean, you're busy as hell. No, retired from life, never. Now, just retired. When I got into MMA's, because I wanted to fight the best in the world, always, you know, I knew that I maybe wasn't the best in the world at my early stages, but I knew my goal was I'm going to make as much money as possible and fight the best guys in the world

because that's what I want to do. I want to push myself to that limit. So once my reflexes, mainly that started slowing down. I was like, if I can't compete with the best guys in the world, I, I don't want to do this anymore. It doesn't, you get me like, I don't want to. I'm with the best guys in the world. I don't want to do this anymore. It doesn't, yeah, I mean, I don't want to. I'm with the 100%. But a lot of guys, like you look at like, you know, Tony Ferguson, like BJ Penn, they don't, I don't know if your team Dean and the rest of the boys, I don't know if

they're the ones who are like, came in, you can still compete at a high level. I don't know if it can be world champion. Like clearly, Tony Ferguson or BJ Penn doesn't have those guys. But I also think for you, one of the reasons you're able to, they might, they might have those guys, but you know, fighters you one of the reasons you're able to... I think they might have those guys, but you know how fighters are there. Yeah, there's a reason why they're great fighters.

But you also, you also have a lot going on outside of the Octagons. You have the game bread, fight promotion, you got your tequila, you're doing all this other stuff. So I think when guys have other things to do, it makes that easier. Those guys don't have a lot of other stuff going on So I think that's one of the better. That's where you're like I can focus on this too

Definitely, you know, um, and it sucks to hear if a guy is like still fighting because it's monetary You know like I like Tony Ferguson. I would you know at the very least in worst case I would hope that he's set for life and I should be right like he should never have to work again Because of all the money that he's bought and for the company. All the entertainment that he's given us. All the pay per views we purchased with Tony headline or co headline. I would think he's good for life. So I hope it's not for the money, but some fighters, or even if they have the money like BJ Penn's case, they don't care. They just want to fight. That's what makes him great. But it's also like a curse, too.

Yeah. When did you feel? when did you feel like you had lost a tiny step? All the way to like 34, 35, it was like, if I was 19 years old with my reflexes, it wasn't really like, maybe my hands weren't as fast, but reflex was. I was just as good and then power something that leaves you later in life as a man,

it's the last thing to leave you. So I felt that all the way up to that point, I was only kind of getting better. My reflexes were still pretty intact, you know, around like 35 is when I felt the drop off and I felt that in the gym first, 35, 36, 37. Getting caught on things, yeah, getting caught, you know. 38. But here's where his story is different because, obviously you're like, you're a big name in the sport, but you weren't getting your due. You're always like a hardcore favorite, you know, from Strike Forest and all that stuff in the UFC.

Everyone loved your fights, but then especially maybe to your, I don't think you slowed down, but you said you slowed down at that age, that's right when you started popping. That's when the big fights started to come and you transcended into, you know, like the Nate Diaz level and like people had, so it's like my CTV.

So you might be a little slower, but it just happened so in your career, that's when you like caught on. So you can't retire then, because that's what made kind of where you got now. Yeah. So like 33, 34s when it like blew up, you know, and I was still feeling good.

And it wasn't until like 35 really that I'm like, oh, I don't have the same. Like I'm getting hit by guys that would never hit me before in departments where I'm very good at. You know, if I'm losing to a guy that's really good and resting, keep taking me down, that's one thing. But if I'm getting like outstruck by certain guys, I could tell like, man, something's like a tad bit off,

you know. So that's when I started noticing. And I always told myself when I can't compete with the guys in the room And I have a very good room to judge my my skills off Someone say the best room. Easy that if you ask me obviously, but I'm biased. I would say the best room in the world And and when I'm testing myself against the best in the world I'm starting to feel now like it's more even when I'm not getting the better of guys high used to

Well, then maybe my time has come. I wasn't feeling like that leading up to the Gilbert fight. Actually I had a great training camp. My smile was great, my miles were a good time, like everything was good, you know. But it's just father time when it's actual game time and you're going full blast, I'm just like a millisecond. And Gilbert's a monster, you know, as well. So he's a threat on the fee.

He throws hard. He mixes up the grappling. He has a bunch of submissions. You know, he's a world champion. But I was telling you, you basically ended your career as well as anybody could in this sport. Thank you, my pleasure. It means just a fact.

Stayed colorful, stayed up fan favorite. And because so many of us have seen these great fighters who just cannot let it go. Well, everyone ends up face down as a... If you stick around long enough, I don't care. Who you are? Face down as a... That's it.

Like John Jones, that dude is like fucking been in it forever, too, and like, man. Been saying what he's doing. I think he retires, and was it the fight to November? I think he retires. Do you really think? I think he makes sense. It makes sense for November I think you're tired to you right think I think I think it makes sense for him to retire There's not much for him to do. He's done everything. Yeah, the only thing I think those the steepest

Going in paper into the fight. I think might be his toughest match if he's ever had really Just because of one thing that I know for sure is gonna come into play is is gonna the wrestling, right? Like, I don't think he's gonna just walk through Steve's wrestling. I think Steve is a very underrated defensive wrestler. He's naturally bigger than John Jones. You can't everybody against John Jones, I feel, but this is gonna be, I think, his toughest fight, man. I think it depends what version of Steve Bay would be.

Exactly, too, yeah, yeah, exactly. Cause he's healthy and in shape, no. But also, Steve Bay is put on, Steve Bay is like, 255, 269? And Steve is waiting to put on weight. Steve Bay's healthy and in shape. But also, Steve is put on, Steve is like 255, 269. And Steve is waiting to put on weight. Steve is a wrestler that I cleave him state. Like division one like stuff. Yeah, so he's gonna be able to wrestle back

and I've seen him against everybody's fight. Nobody's ever taken Steve down and bitten him out. You know, I just, and that's a very grueling tough fight. If Jones has to do that with a guy that can wrestle back in a heavyweight, at heavy weight, it's a different pace, you know, so I'm very excited to see how that fight goes. Because Jones is just Jones, he just finds a way to win. Even if his wrestling got shut down,

he's doing something else, but Steve is also ahead of a competitor. So I'll be Kade's side for that one. I'll be safe too. How did it feel to wrap that BFF title around just in Gagey's waist for you? Could've been a sweet. Could've been a sweet.

Yeah, that's his game. Could've been a sweet. But I never hate in the game, because I'm part of the game. I've knocked out numerous people in this game and so forth. So obviously I wanted to give it to Dustin, but the way Justin won is how BMF is supposed to win by stoppage by knockout. So bit of sweep, man, I'm hats off to him that he won. He beat our team, but my heart's always with Justin American top team.

Yeah, I love Dustin, but also with that fight, like that could have went either way. Like I thought Dustin won the first round and got caught. Yeah, like that's the BMFL title, BMF title. Like just got caught. Yeah. They fight again, that probably doesn't happen. And he could go either way.

He could go either way. Like Dustin, you do it damn. He was screaming, tell what you were screaming. I was screaming, Dustin had landed in the in the first round. He had landed some some body kicks that turned in the head kicks because Justin kept ducking in and his arm was coming and he was getting hit. So I was yelling in the second round. Dustin head kick. Dustin head. And then it happened. I was like, no, not you, not you. And they did. He was like, I thought you're saying just they were with me?

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Denver. And that's why one championship went there too, because the one championship rules too. So what do you mean? Denver allowed soccer. We'll be going there. Why would Denver have all places, I wouldn't think Denver, I think,

some reservation or something like that. Yeah, some reservation, some bingo home. But in our view scene for Bicero lately, that boy's bodied up. Oh man. He's jacked. He is jacked. That's some good creativity.

Good love. Good creativity. Good, good. Well's jacked. He is jacked. Jack some good creative good love. I said it's good creating good. Yeah Well, that's the Ossayian Brazil. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying Brazil. What what is it? He looks phenomenal. She doing look at him. What? That's that's I got to get on some of those supplements. That's he looks fantastic. Uh-uh That's nuts by the way That's nuts, by the way. That's nuts. The gym's a big boy too. What's interesting about Baronuckel, is it does seem like if you just, you can use your head as a weapon to break somebody's hands.

Yeah. I mean, it's just almost fakers of the roller. And that's why Mike Perry excels in that because obviously when he fought Luke Rockle or even Michael Venom Page, those guys are technically better strikers, but it's just a different like Mike Page just makes it ugly. It just beats these dudes. And that little clinch, hold and release and then

he's adapted to the style very well. Yeah, and the distance completely different. I'm curious with JDS for doing, I've been in a training room with Verdum. Like he is a mother fucker Yeah, that do plays. Yeah, he's a dog to your point is a dog and he's good in every area He's good at resting good at striking good at great at Jiu Jitsu if he's on top or bottom Damn JDS looking jack to what is going on with this outside in Brazil

Good ass. Hey, you know come on and I've been I've had the pleasure of obviously he's an American top team I've had the pleasure of watching do some some live sparring. He's looking good and I could say he's gonna be a fucking phenomenal fight You know, he's been working with this guy out right here. Who's that monster? This guy's killing people in the PFL. They're trying to line him up with Francis. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna be up at the final sum, but yeah, this guy's hurting people. And how hard was it to get those two to agree? Did they come to you? Like, how's it work? Do you reach out to people?

Or do they come to you guys? And JDS, the situation, and I almost got apologize soon, because I've been helming for two years. I see him in the locker room. When you go fight for me, man, come on, stop bullshit. And he's like, man, I have to fit all I'm with this company right now, when I become a free agent. Next week, I'm like, yo, what's up?

Or look, I got some open space. Let's get you in there. Man, I got this. I got that coming up a lot. So it took like two years and he came up to me the other day and he goes, hey, I'm free. I get off.

I'm a free agent. Let me know if anything comes up. And I was like, holy smokes. So I called this dude up. And on the day that I'm telling him, my guess was a free agent and is interested in doing bare knuckle. And he's like, is it a heavyweight?

And I go, yeah, it's a heavyweight. I mean, junior docentles. And he tells me, I was a guess who I just got off the phone with, their manager. And it's also a free agent and it's like, it's static about doing bare knuckle. This is on the same day. And I've been trying to talk to JDS for like two years,

but I hadn't really told them because it wasn't concrete, you know? And he tells me like, right then and there. If I would've used your redoing most of the fight for a bare knuckle, I was like, oh, dear. It just started to score a line. What a good fight.

It just started to score a line. What a great fight. You got to let people on that card too, right? Yeah, pen and brown. Is it brown in there? No, brown, yeah. We had some visa issues we couldn't get in there, but we wanted to get brown it is brown? No, bro. Yeah, we had us some visa issues We couldn't get bro in there, but we wanted to get bro in there a 145 bear knuckle. How hard is it to get guys to commit to the bear knuckle?

And so it's what you get your deal with like free agents, right? It's always a little dicey. Yeah, it's a little dicey That's a great word dicey and and not every fighter in MMA is Made or meant to be in bare nock. It's just different. It's just different. The bullets are flying both ways. You know, like you said, you could easily hurt your hand. You could also easily break somebody's fucking

Irobertal. We're fighting with one eye a whole fight. I know it's a different, the BKF, but Luke Rockle broke his fucking teeth off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's why he stopped. He's like, what the fuck am I doing? I broke my tooth.

Yeah. And then easily, if they broke your tooth tooth you get a nerve slice in your hand It as well, you know, so it's it's just a difference. We're also the submissions go up That's why a lot of grapplers are starting to be more and more into it because you know have these gloves now So these hands sneak in there faster in tighter places and you could pull off submission So submissions and the finishes just go through the rule up your things You can strike and submit it's MMA. Oh wait. Oh for doom's gonna win hold plays. Oh for doom's gonna So this is the MMA it's a kicking Oh guys didn't know I didn't know

No dude hold on hold on no gloves What are you doing? I'm a fucking rich homeroom. Fordum's gonna dominate it. Now hold on. No, you don't remember JDS could wrestle. I remember. He's a savage. And he convinces Assa.

Defensively, he's a pretty creamy lacrop at one point. He would, the only guy that would fend off Kane in his prime. That's true. But this is a JDS consideration. If Verdun gets an honor, it can pull his guard in. There's no gloves. That's what I'm saying. Rubble for all that.

Why is that? That's why grappers love us. He's so good. If a dude gets an underdog and pulls guard and there's no gloves, that's what I'm saying. Rubble for all of that. Why is that? That's why grappers love that. He's so good. At your gesture. That's his, that's his, that's his, that's his, that's his, why would it make a difference without the gloves? It just, you don't have the bulky gloves that you get them in there.

The solutions for a lot of changes with, even like your own grip strength, you got the tape, the gods of tape, the gods to protect your hands. It's a more, the more you have of that kind of constrict your hand and then on top of you have the glove. Now a lot of people usually train like that so they get used to it, but still it's like it limits you in the grappling and it limits. One big one is when you take somebody's back, if they have the glove, I could like do this. Correct. And like bring that hand, you know. Hand fight a little bit easier for the defensive guy. Now if you don't have the gloves,

these hands become a problem and they get real sneaky and slippery, right here. Once a hand is like back here, this game over. So, so, Rogan's been talking about this forever. He's been saying, I think we should have no gloves because people will start to learn how to punch differently. It'll take another considerations. I think you're going to see a lot less, I would imagine punching.

That's a big thing. Every time you throw your hand in a fight like that,, I would imagine punching. That's a big thing. Every time you throw your hand in a fight like that, especially in the early rounds, that's a big gamble. You might hit the top of somebody's head, you know, it can be a, elbows, more. It depends on the guy. It depends on the guy. Like, it's the same time.

Yeah. At the same time, some guys just have like mutated hands, that nothing's gonna happen to them, and when they touch your face, they're gonna break your face, you know? I see a lot of like eyes getting shut, you know, because it's just, like, to me, personally, it's worth the risk for shutting your eyes.

Your insurance can't be fun. The doctors, oh yeah, we gotta, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. How did you get this past the commission? Yeah. This is a huge job. There's a lot of work. There's a lot of work.

One of the first ones was Mississippi. So we shot out to them. We had about three shows there. During then we were applying in Florida and trying to make it legalize in Florida and then finally happened. So when we threw the first sanctioned bare knuckle show in Florida,

and from there we're just gonna keep it moving. Louisiana just got legalizing Louisiana. Hopefully Arizona soon as well. Denver, it's legal now, so we're gonna be going to Denver in December. And we're gonna move on. Why did you decide you wanted to be a fight promoter? Like have a fight league? Well, three, maybe our first show was about

three years ago that we threw, and then it was more experimental phase. You know, like I got ideas, he already had a set motion in plan. I had been to numerous of his shows, Island Fighting Championships and he had maybe, I don't know, at that time 70 shows you had already done by then. So he had like the infrastructure of it. I had my win, what I thought would do well for promoting.

So we got together and we were just throwing concepts up, doing the stuff and one thing led to another. The shows kept getting bigger. Our first two shows actually for Baronucco and Mississippi completely sold out. The first venue was like 2,500 people. The next venue was like 3,800 people. We sold both of them out.

Also, it was right after the coronavirus pandemic. So it was nothing to do. So we went to Mississippi where Baronucknuckle fights. Everybody's like, where do I get to take it? So we sold out and that was like very confident boosting for us. You know, we barely did any work for what we got in return. So we're like, I like this, you know, I think your benefit too is like all the fighters, like any UFC alumni, every, every Fox with you, like you're a good dude. Yeah. That all part of it. Yeah.

Along with everybody. For the most part of dude. That I'll see you along with everybody. For the most part, maybe Ben Asker and Colby, but outside that, even that. But yeah, but those are just bitches. Like, ain't nobody trying to be their friends in real life. Those guys are just bitches, man. You recently you talked about fighting Ben Asker. Or did he just joke and upon really,

but did he, he started it, right? Because he showed a picture of him like in shape. No, no, no, even even before that he he put a I had just seen the comment on my actually my homie was there he is back there had Look at it. Yeah, blast it over. It's like From South Park couldn't be higher I've been I've been looking at his eyes and he's literally I've never seen anybody higher

That dude seen Shit Cloud nine um What are we saying about bad? I like I like that a lot because he's I think Ben is a lot of just sillier than people get away Sinner he's funny and silly. Yeah, he could be, way silly and smarter. He's funny and selling Yeah, he could be he could be uh, I don't know Irritating to me, you know, it's like a lot of fighters, but I get where he is and he's like you know He could definitely sell a fight. Um, he put out something like I don't need come out of retirement

I told Dana white for Jorge this loser and and I see that I go but this guy's fucking tweaking or something. What's wrong with you? Everybody was crazy. You're in the realgirl. You also have the ultimate trump card. Yeah. You just play the picture, you know, I'm like, you know, Ben like flat-lined, he's like, this fool's still talking. He's alive, this fool's alive. And then at a fun, I was just thinking like,

if I work, because I don't want to do it. As I said earlier, I only want to fight the best in the world. You're not the best in the world, Ben. Sorry, I could say that because I've been in it with you. You know we're near the best in the world Ben, sorry. I could say that because I've been in there with you. You know we're near the best in the world. But if you wanted to do boxing, because there's no knees a lot in boxing, right? But I'd have to call Ben,

because I care about Ben and I'd say Ben, don't box Jorge Mosvito. I love Ben, but think about it, there's no need to know. I don't want Ben boxing or he must be trying to get more him on me. Very good boxing. If I was even a Tempton E. attempting to use illegal, I'd get disqualified.

So at least he has five seconds. Doesn't have to worry about the hey. No. Let's just put all the emphasis on, there's no needs. No dude, no needs. I don't care dude. Nobody wants your hands either. That's a disaster.

Ben's a great wrestler. He doesn't want your hands. I would do the challenge, Ben. I would do the, I would challenge Ben unboxing and then challenge Ben on wrestling. Like a five minute wrestling match. You think he'd be down for that? I think he'd be open to that.

That wrestling dance. He'd do it up into it. We'll hit up Ben after this. We'll hit up do a boxing match, get paid then. First you're gonna do the boxing match, first you're gonna do the boxing match, get paid to make money. The fix is in, Ben, don't say no.

Ben, Ben's doing Frisbee golf and loving his life and killing him. Ben called me out. No, I'm not the one that called me out. Ben wants to do it. He's broken. He needs money. Okay, stepping the boxing man wants to do it, but I think we'll get him the co-main event of some major box Yeah, we'll boost those pay per view sell a bunch of fucking pay per views I'll fucking I'll let you live to like the second one so people don't say you took him out too soon And then the second one execute you via body shots. Boom. I like it, dude. I think it works out for everybody. He can't help himself. Look at Jorge.

Now I'm excited. Now you're getting me excited. And I love Ben. But did you, how did you, did you expect Ben to get starched like you did? No, and that's not to expect Ben. Do you expect him to get starched against Jake Paul? Like you did. 100% I was calling it. I was calling before the thing. The only way I was saying he could win was if you were to fucking wrestle fog them Yeah, and you can't wrestle fucking wrestle in boxing so you know, but as I'm sure you've seen and know Ben and many interviews is something that I why I don't like him is a person as a character has disrespect to the sport of

M.A. He's saying no, I don't do pads. I don't do striking. I don't despise. I just rush Yeah, I just wrestle and he's sparring his And then wrestling and then wrestling, and then wrestling and wrestling. So he doesn't need any of these aspects, right? Well now you can't continue to make money off him because you never respected these aspects. You need that in a minute, you need to be a boxer,

you need to be a kick boxer. I wasn't looking forward to crotch-siffing anybody, but I spent most of my time training, learning how to defend that and how to stop that. Look at Bonicco. Bonicco, go in there and just breast you all fucking day, but he's knocking cats out. You know, you gotta respect this point.

He never did. That's why I would love to get him in a boxing match. Well, where'd you get your discipline, man? Because here's what I find fascinating about you. I've been watching you since you started. And you, the one thing that guys like me loved about you is that you were as close to a human pit bull as a guy You were game bread you loved fighting you'd see a guy like you and you'd be like that guy

Would fight you on the street. He'll fight you in a hair salon. He'll fight you right With Kim you just see it. Yeah, and so that's not where you're like eight 17 you're 18 I'm sorry. They said He came out of the womb swinging. Yeah. But you see that spirit in someone. And a lot of times that's married with a certain form of self-destructiveness

or a certain form of dysfunctionality. And so you end up loving them, but they kind of punch themselves into oblivion. Something happens. It doesn't end well typically, but you have love in your heart for them. You're one of the few people that I have, that what I find fascinating is, not only did you make it the top of the game in MMA, you also were able to

manage media in a certain way. You were also able to kind of like be a personality. And then you knew exactly, exactly when to retire and get into this other thing. So there's this question, bro. There's all this discipline. And there's all this discipline, this mindset that's very rare I see in fighters. Because you go from fighter, purifier to businessman now to all these other things. So when, do you think that was something you were born with or is that something you developed? Because does it surprise you that you're here doing this shit?

Combination, definitely nature and nurture and being born with certain things and then through society, through my upbringing, sharpening those rules. What was that up for? Like who? Who taught you that shit? Like I'm very adaptable. And that since since a kid I moved around a lot. I was always for a long time

I was like the new kid in school, new kid in school In a different country since the young age then I came back to America I lived in Peru for like four years from four to nine years old So then I came back to America. No English. I don't pick in English and I dodge it all I talking like this English, I don't pick in English, and I do it your own. I talk in like this every time. And then maybe like 13, I started talking a little better, so imagine I was like more problems, fights in school, things like that, you know, and shit, I learned a lot like during that time, you know. How do I adapt? And right around then, like, I fell in love with the sport of boxing when I was like 70 years old. That's the first time I discovered

boxing. And then MMA, I discovered it when I was like 11, 12 years old. And I was like 70 years old. That's the first time I discovered boxing. Then MMA, I discovered it when I was like 11, 12 years old. And I was like, this is what I want to do. And I already knew, because I had had enough fights moving around growing up that I was gifted with like the hands, just defending myself. I knew that I was pretty good at it. You could see openings. Yeah.

So I would go to the gym and I could immediately, like somebody had been training like two years, if it was like boxing or three years, I could like hang with him. I could do very well and I didn't have the endurance because I was so like new to the game and that I would lose after like two rounds of sparring in the beginning and then I would talk to the coaches like, how do you not get tired? This is the crazy shit. And that's where I learned discipline, you know It's like these guys run you just started this thing

But these guys like running in the morning hitting the bag for all these things, you know and then slowly But surely I started dialing in and I realized like discipline is almost everything because as many gifts as I have if I get tired If the Ferrari runs out of gas the Honda Civic is gonna get their first correct So that that's probably what gave me any of the discipline that I have in life comes just from combat. You know how it is, like if you go out, fight an eye, Saturday night,

Sunday night, and then Monday morning comes. Maybe you're the super athlete that you get away with it and you beat. Cause that was me for a long time. I was doing things wrong and I could beat everybody in the room and that's amazing you know but that wasn't the best version of me. It catches up with you know and it catches up and it's also not a guy with your talent who doesn't do that you know. So I think the

sport of combat is like the greatest for instant gratification and also like humbling you know like if you and just like three four, you could change the course of your life and like MMA really dial in, getting rest, sleeping. Because I'll change the much when you were in the game. Like when you started versus where you ended, the game evolved. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy, right?

I had a crazy mutation. Especially I actually fast forward during Corona, like right before Corona, during and right after, it's like the sport went five X. Yeah, why was that? Because Russians were coming in. People from all over the world. No, they've been there.

I think also shot at the Dana. Like he kept the sport going. And when every other major sport shut down, they went, we're not doing that. We're gonna figure something out. So he went to the police. He's in Abu Dhabi. Still put on the fight.

So it's the only big sport put on. So I think a lot of new fans gravitate towards it. And they have stars, like Mazda da, they have Connor doin' this thing. So it's just like this perfect storm of talent, entertainment. And then they kept goin', they just kept goin'. The first event back to full capacity

was the UFC Jackson Bill. When me and Usman fought for the belt the second time, that was the first time in the States in Corona, you could have full capacity. And that was thanks to Ron DeSantis, you know, and Dana White and they were able to pull that off. So that I think right there also launched a sport to like another front seat again, you know, because we were constantly getting told that the fight you remember were happening at the apex. Yeah. They had all the guys with the ET's who'd shove and fucking bamboo sticks up your nose and there's fucking bananas. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. So I just think people respect

and he got a lot of new fans with that. Yep, and they keep it going. You're saying it's great. I don't know anybody watching you have seen. It's like, ah, not for me. No, like some, soy boys, maybe like, that's too violent. Okay, not for me, but in general, America loves it. I was just thinking about you and Connor, how would that would have been like? Well, it could still go down though. That dude, that dude, that dude, yeah man, that dude, he's just retired. He's retired, just fine.

I don't know. He'd come out of retirement right now. He fights as much as Connor does. Because you know, you're right, you know. But the thing is that guy, that guy's pissing hot, clearly on steroids cheating. And then you're calling out guys like like Justin and Dustin and this and that like

Man, you can't even respect the process. You're so fucking lost You're still fucking idiot the money and the cocaine has got into that you can't you forgot the simple rules It even made you like you have to go and get on a fucking drug program and not do steroids You're fucking cheater. That's the curse of his success, right? You couldn't even do that You didn't want to fucking show up and piss on that cup because you were gonna piss hot. And then you're calling out these fighters, like, bro, it's so past you, bro.

But I think he's such a bum that I would sign a waiver, like you could fight men steroids. Yeah. You could do whatever you want. Yeah, fair, fair. But I feel like you could do it on it, even with your roles on game bread. I don't know, because we both signed to the UFC,

so we're both athletes of the UFC that you know how it is. I'm just retired, not like. Oh, Lisa. Oh, she's not like, you know, you know, if he does, they freeze your contract. So even like when I retired, I still had I think of maybe one fight left of my deal.

Like cool, but if you ever decide to do anything, we own you so it's one more fight. Even though if you're not damn. How about you? It's not like you get out of free jail car. New contract. I think you could tell me. You know Dan that enough.

Yeah, I know Dan very well. And so forth. But they wouldn't let us fight on a different league. That's common here. I run some issues. But I bet you could talk to them and maybe not conversation with somebody else. How many fights do you have on your contract? I think, I'm gonna say 30, so they got me.

That's forever. I'd be for breeding their pretty much. That I have won and, you know, I'm in their debt for that. You get in there with me and a couple other guys just real quick, just do a joke as high as real quick and then just be like, I'm done now. Your Conner would be the one, he's like, nah man.

But I would be one to bet you're gonna get Connerverse like a Jake, especially if Jake wins on Saturday, but I would be one to bet you're gonna get Connervers like a Jake, especially if Jake wins on Saturday, which I want your thoughts on. Yeah, I want your thoughts. If Jake were to win that fight and beat Nate, I can see Conner making that happen, you know? The boxing match.

Yeah. Yeah, maybe they could make that happen, you know? And shit, as much as I never would have thought this would happen, Jake might beat him, I was connoisseur like in the train. Isn't that crazy, bro? It's crazy, we're talking about that. Jake is out there training, in that crazy, I wrote, in that crazy, what the hell about that?

Jake is out there training, not doing drugs, not being part of that fucking vicious lifestyle. This guy can't beat him. You think Jake, how do you think Jake and Nate goes down outside of it? I think it all depends on Nate, how much of a, how close is Nate to his prime? You know, Nate is prime, obviously.

All day. Beats Jake, you know, his prime. You know, the game is prime, obviously. All day. Beats Jake, you know, but I don't know. He's older, he's coming into a new sport. Jake's been having the ball roll, roll, you know. And he didn't look phenomenal in the Tyson fight, but he did prove on a technical point. I thought that he got better as a fighter. He didn't go his way and stuff,

and feel on both sides, he could have been way. Top of the period more aggressive. I feel they both on both sides, it could have been way more aggressive. It's a much of a staring match. But when he did decide to throw his technique, he has gotten better and some of the fakes and stuff. I would say that maybe Jake, I'm leaning towards Jake, I want Nate to win because is my MMA brother, you know? Correct. You see, alumni, you just stick to him.

Yeah, exactly, you know? My thing is what that is, how serious is Nate taking it? Exactly. Because if Nate goes, he's just a Disney YouTuber. He's getting it fucked up. I think so. Now if Nate's trained like you do to get when he's preparing for you,

Jake could be in a little bit of trouble. Yeah. But for Jake, it's all in those early rounds. He's younger, he's faster, more explosive. Yeah. But if Nate, it's all in those early rounds. These young girls faster more explosive. But if Nate can eat the shots and apply pressure and just volume, he's going to melt Jake. Well, if it goes after four, now it starts, I think, dramatically switched towards Nate's realm and his type of real estate. I'm saying first three. First three of Jake's having success could be a good night in the office for JK and his fan base. If he's not doing well in those first early rounds

and can't hit him, it's gonna be trouble. Nate's gonna fucking melt them. But it also Nate gets hit and JK can crack. When you twist it, JK can crack. I think it's a big accomplishment on JTEM. For where he's at, don't you? Yeah, for where he's at In his level, he can crack. Like, could he crack enough to get a prime name out of there now, but this name?

I don't know, maybe, maybe now, yeah, you know, he doesn't, I don't know. He doesn't seem to. Here's the question, if Jake loses where's he go. I think like the big names, like the counter fights gone, the Nick Diaz fights gone, like the him fighting like legit MMA or boxing guys, those days are done. I think he'll fight like a KSI, like he'll go to YouTube route.

So I think him getting like legit fighters can be tough. If he gets starched by Nate, guys, you know what, we're gonna, a guy that has such a fan base, just like calling himself, I think they could always just fight some taxi cab drivers. Yeah. They get a high-light out of them. And then eventually they'll get to fight another fighter or tricks you if you see fighting.

Like a guy like Jake, it just depends how long he wants to be around. Even him losing this fight, I know what you're saying. He would definitely send him back, but not nothing that he couldn't fix in like 2.35. Yeah. It's weird too, because I don't know if you saw Nate and him were sitting down with the aerial.

Nate just walks off. I've not seen that. that. Not promoting the fight. He's not. He's not. He's like, and Jake's like being cool. No, no, no. Yeah. Nate's like, by the way, don't I don't care. Why is that? Why is he just, he doesn't, it's very on brand for Nate. Yeah. Yeah. His way of promoting is not promoting, right? He's too cool for the whole thing. He's just kind of, Nate, Nate still kind of like um is a purist like he doesn't like he doesn't like that he's fighting somebody who hasn't had as many fights well then don't take the fight though but if you're in a good fight like you gotta they would do that in in the year she's

that's what I'm saying it's a bit like it's way of marketing but not marketing yeah yeah yeah it's very strange it is it's it's, it's, it's Nate. I'm curious how it does paper-view-wise. What do you think? Shhh. Over 100,000 or under? Over 100,000. I bet they're in the ballpark of 150 to 200.

That's just how they guess. But mainly because I just don't hear about as much as I should be. I'm not hearing about this fight as much. It's just not in my face. What do you think? Same number. So I would say lower than people expect. Lower under 100,000 buys. That'd be a disaster. Yeah. I don't think. No, I think they've got they've got pull. No more than that. I'm going to watch it. But I think I think Jake's problem, you'll be on

stage. But I think Jake's problem is his young fan base. They just steal the stream. You know what I'm saying? Like they're not buying the stream. Is that what happened? Oh, the ton of it. So if you add in a legal stream and it's doing, you know, over a million, but they can't control it. Like, Danny can control it.

It's a business, the fan base, some of it younger. In general, people know that money might go to the fighters. You're just gonna help people out. Jake's fan base is young. They're jacking it, huh? Yeah, they're jacking it. Russian hackers don't play with it. No, no. White you out Jake's fan bases. They're jacking it. Yeah, they're jacking it Russian hackers on playboy No, wipe you out

You know how there's like that paper even models tough bro hell yeah, no, it's done especially if you're on pay-per-view We've had a couple of events with them. They're getting 45% Right off rate. You really you may you saw them in paper views. They're gonna get 45% you get 55% Now they have access to like, I forget like 88 million homes, something like that. Right. That you could advertise to, you know. How did the first, how did Jake's first couple fights do?

Like, what against Woodley and Ben? Yeah, just like, you never really know. But, you know, some of the numbers came out for Woodley. They weren't, they weren't crazy. But like, Chale says this, like even like we never know, like there's no committee that's like, yep, that's real. Like when they tell you Conner Floyd did whatever, whatever they said it was, you know, 1.5 or 2 million pay for you.

Chale's like, that's not real. Really? Like Manny Floyd, like they're saying, biggest pay for you all the time. Chale's like, no, that's not real. Like none of those numbers are real. Why? Because there's no committee.

Okay. You know, like you can see our audio. Like, no, those numbers are real. Why? Because there's no committee saying, you know, like, you can see, or you can't see our audio numbers, we can see YouTube numbers. If we're saying, we got 10 million downloads on YouTube, people can see it. There's no committee. But somebody's making a lot of money. I mean, the question, the real question is,

what kind of check are they both seeing at the end of the day? That bag would tell you a lot. Well, people are fighting Jake, because they're getting paid. Yeah, that means- Oh, I heard it wasn't, no, we tell you a lot. Well, people are fighting Jake because they're getting paid. Yeah, that means- I heard it wasn't, uh, nowhere near that, 500. Yeah, exactly.

And then I see that. It's crazy. I thought that he's the only one who has to make a piece of it. That's the first one, too. How, how are you feeling about, like Leon Edwards is having kind of resurgence. Like he's, like, people are finally appreciating him. It's technically good, man. He's getting more, more aggressive, which is,

I think, something the public probably didn't really care for him. Yeah. That he would sit back too much and not bring the action. As a fighter, you're yes, you're a martial artist. You're also an entertainer. Correct. I mean, you can't complain if people are tuning in because you're just, which is not Leon's case, he's usually not well.

He used to be a bit of a crotch singer. He went on that streak. But if you're a crotch singer, you're fucking crotch singer. I don't think crotch singer means wrestler. No, not wrestler means. He's a boy. You know, because there's a lot of, Iotch niffy went on that streak, but if you're a crotch niffy, you're fucking... I'm a crotch niffy and he's wrestler. No, not wrestler, means, you know, because there's a lot of, I like watching Hubby fight person, because if he takes you down,

he's gonna fucking punch your face in, and I wanna see that, or he's gonna try to submit you, or if he's on the feet, he's throwing big bumps to close a gap, and then, you know, try to finish if I, when the guys just get into a lot of stop positions, or just like wrestling,

and he's content to be in the guard, he's not doing any damage, and he's just like wrestling. He's content to be in the guard. He's not doing any damage and he's just like wrestling and wrestling. You know, you're doing everything possible and your power just to like not fight and just, you know? Playing it safe. Playing it safe, you know? And it's not really like a fight, you know?

I wanna see a fight, obviously, it's entertainment and it's also win, you gotta be a martial arts winner. He's getting his flowers now, I feel like a little bit. Definitely, definitely. He's flowers now. He never got that two piece of the soda though You know, I'm saying and you got the three piece and the I get him the three piece and Shit if you want if you want to like I hear him doing this little interviews and shit If you want to spar for some money, we can like stream in summer. I fucking go work with a fucking one Yeah, and we go to hard for like

He ran cuz I'm a retired daddy. You know, I'm not gonna do five rounds But I'll do three rounds with you as you're like your whole area. He was a retired dad I'm a retired that now break your face I'm a third round three round five rounds right now. That's like that's actually okay, but three rounds I always got what you Where now about no bullshit be honest because you can't right now where my work looking thick and I mean must right now I mean fat you look you look strong Right now I'm way about sexy

That's what I'm at to 155 it's so insane that you get that you know he get down to 74 it being possible I was so insane that you would get there. You know, he'd get down to 74, it'd be impossible. When 70. Yeah. Oh my gosh. No, no, no. 55 for you.

55 was a nightmare from now. Just walking in all two. I don't know how to do it. I'll choose you right now in his pink. At 20, right around 24, 25, my body started changing, more started getting more weight. So I went from like, I used to walk around 175. So like 184.

And then I would like 180 to 184 was my walk around weight. And then from there I'd cut down to 72 and then pray to God and do the 189 pounds of water to get the 55. That's a lot of fun. It was tough. At the barrel of last, when you're just dehydrating and you're like, it sucked, you know.

And then my last like 35, I noticed like man, I'm fucking doing amazing in the gym But when it comes to fight it like my fist ain't flying the same back. I'm just drained I'm drained and then you saw the happen to come and ride at that time and it took off IVs So I was like I can't I'll never make the wait now. I'm gone. So I came up to 70 Which was like the best thing for me in my life, you know? Hell yeah, maybe it should have came in maybe like a year to before Into 70 and just try to fill out, you know But shit, I always thought I was like a little bit small for like a 70 pound. Yeah, at that time. It worked out for you though Yeah, my god did it work out for you as far as we and I did yeah, you're rolling pretty soon here

As far as the next BMF title, which you're clearly involved with now. Who do you see it going down with? I have no idea. Right? I think they'll just hold it off. Yeah, you look at the layer of the LAN, it's tough. Yeah. And there's a lot of interesting matchups. I, Percy, would like to see my boy Dustin again,

fucking fight for man, there's so many badass. Cause you can do, you can do just a Dustin again. I've got her, you know many badass. You can do you can just a dozen of them. I've heard you know, I know Jamal Hill. Yeah, what do you think solves that Makachev wrestling the problem? Islam huh? You know, Gage is not a bad defensive wrestler. He's pretty fucking damn good defensive wrestling.

All American. All American and he could wrestle. It could easily be Gage. You know, he's got the power to do it. I could see Gage if he has a good night, he could definitely stop. How does he stop that? That's because you saw what... And definitely... He put him down on his back pretty quickly.

Yeah. Right? So that's... I think Marketschev would probably have the same kind of... A little different though. Yeah, a lot of chefs not as good as he could be. I don't think he has the power or quite the writing ability of Habibi. Well, absolutely. The Volcanoski fight.

Yeah. Now, Volcanos, he's, I think, a guy that could definitely be his son. Volcanoski. I would've been money on that. He did deal with it. And he took him back. I would've been money on Volk. I think Volk, and for my money, Volk is number one right now.

Me too. So I could see him beating all these guys. You know what the next BMF title should be? And I don't know how it works. I don't know if you get it versus, well that would be great. But if you can jump around weight classes, yeary versus Alex Pierre for BMF is F.

Oh, they broke. Take my body for it. Is it BMF right? And title right there. That should be it. How is Jerry's? You back already? Yeah, he's training.

He's training. And they given a date for when he's- They haven't given a date, but make a- Jere pretty, boy. Jere versus Alex Pira, they said is- That's the fight. That's the fight. For the light heavyweight title.

Let's continue some more great matchmaking. That's what I'm saying, Brad. I heard you're making your debut on my promotion. Yes! Who you want, man? Who you want, man? Yes! I got my matchmaker right here.

Who you want, I was gonna makemaker right now. Who you want? I was gonna make a brother. It was bare knuckle. Who do you want, man? Bro, come on, if you had it too. I don't know if bare knuckle is for me. It'd be the... You would hate that so much.

I can just see you being like, I gotta fight bare. We know this for me. Money. It's money. Now, what? I don't know. You know what? This is a real thing.

What's a real thing? I'll be in your corner. I'm there for you. Let's get out. Listen, with my fucking silver tongue in your ear and you're like, I can't do it. I'm like, you got this, bro. You got this.

No, you need to distract my opponent. I do the free agents. I'm sure it's fucking not fine for Doom or JVS. That's, bro. No, no, no, no. You keep that. That's fine. I heard their uses of breathing too. Oh, that's right. Let's find something for you. But you allow grappling and everything. That's bro That's Brayton too

That's right. That's fine. But you allow grappling everything. That's MMA. Come on, bro I wouldn't say no to Derek Lewis if I can grapple. Woo way Derek Lewis debut in my promotion versus brand of show you come on They understand that people's heads are just fucking argue Explo Come on man, you already people would hate your blood. They understand that people's heads are just fucking are you exploding? Explode, bro. My head's exploding. I know, but let's put it in a hole. That's a disaster.

That guy hits you. I'm terrified. I'm terrified, but listen. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna turn it up and ask you. You have me. I'm just gonna. No, no, no, look at my eyes. When you're feeling scared, look at my eyes.

I keep you sprang, I keep you sprang. Look at my eyes. There you go. Go get them. With your help, I think. There we go. Look at the intensity. There it hits hard.

Throw it in. Throw it in. those double leg die for a double blast double whole Her nose his hands just look like they're veriting like mutating to something else And I look like that a hurt man. We were in the elevator with him before anybody knew him We're I don't know if you remember this he called me out after he knocked somebody out I was like a Dave and Buster's I'm'm watching the fight. Like who do you want next? I'd love to fight Brendan Sean. I was like, ah, I got to do a fight before Johnson.

I was like, ah, fuck, man. I don't know. It ruined my night. Well, we were in the elevator. I was like, in the chicken wings and like, K-so, like, ah, we were in the elevator and he was, I looked at him and I started talking to him. I was like, do you fucking giant?

And he goes, he said, yeah, you'll hear about me pretty soon. And we remember where he said he was in the OC. Yeah, he's good. I don't think I had the one of us that had ever to him. I was like, do you fucking giant? And he goes, he said, yo, you'll hear about me pretty soon. And we remember where he said he was in the OC. Yeah, he's been there. I don't think either one of us had ever seen him. No, I didn't. But, but, but, this is a, this is a, I'm actually like it. But we don't have to start with that loose first week. Yeah, he's the one to set it.

Yeah, we get to. He said, he did it. Yeah, he said, he was somebody else at least. Well, he was saying free agent. So I said, they're free agent. Hmm. Damn, we got, we got another commute. I'm actually a little easier. Well, he was saying free agent, so I said, yeah, it's a free agent. Hmm, damn. No, we got, we got. It's another comedian.

I'm actually a guy. Yeah, that's the it. It's another comedian? No. No, Louis CK. What's he going for? No, nobody's gonna fight you in the comedy world. I'd be the only one who would get in there with you

and be a bad situation for me. No, there's, I think I got one friend comedian. Can you somebody else? I got one friend coming. Can you use somebody else? I got one friend comedian. Tim Dylan? Who? I don't wanna fight Tim. What are you gonna say?

Jerry's time, Phil? No, no, no. I don't wanna fight Tyrone Swang. I've sparred with Tyrone. How dare you? Or is it good, man? Wait, if there's grappling though. Yeah, it'd be a Tim and me.

Yeah. Bro, this is, I'm serious right right now Jeremy Piven. Let's go I'm like a sushi place right? No, it's that laugh acting in that okay. I think it's too sad I'm gonna tell my K Jorge's offer just a con Like Jorge wants a stafite I'm gonna sell my cell. Like Jorge wants a fight, dude. Okay. Yeah, I'll tell you that.

You gotta conjure what your name might. That's what I'm saying. It's gotta be a heavyweight. It's gotta be a heavyweight. And it preferably somebody who comes out of retirement as well. Tito or Tito? Whoa, we can make that happen. You said Tito.

I'm throwing out of the Tito. Yeah, fight Tito. Fight Tito. Ram page. Ram page isn't a bad idea. That's my boy. Not, that's a friend I'm nervous man hey man hold you now I am 40 27 years old I'm 40 dog you're for I'm for you I'm a dad dude oh I saw head like you're saying when you see your son hit mitts. Yeah, I want to cry. Yeah, bro, fuck.

How was he? Eight years old. And he can hit? Well, I didn't, I don't want him to be a fighter, right? I just, I don't, I don't know. It's too tough of him. I already did it from, you know, go to school, you know, let's learn about business, go open up businesses,

you've got your back, that's, that's my plan, right? But for a while now, he's been asking to like train and martial arts. It's so much the last year in changing He's been asking I want to train with your coach my head striking coach Palino Hernandez He's been asking for some time Let me train with them. Let me train with them. So maybe I don't know. I'm gonna say about we started nine weeks ago He started training with my coach. We started at three sessions a week So maybe I don't know, I'm gonna say about we started nine weeks ago. He started training with my coach. We started at three sessions a week, now in 15 minutes, now in 30 minutes. And the progression that he's hiding that time is fucking the same, bro.

It's like, how cool is the scene, bro? He's got his dad's eye. And you're born with it. You're just born with it. And what the fuck? And I had left for like three days, four days to promote. I came back and he was doing like weaving drills and dodging drills.

And I was like, holy smokes, bro, this is crazy. It's nothing cooler. It's the best in the world. It's crazy, man. And it's just, well, God gives you it's amazing how it works. And we could give it on to the offspring. It's nuts, you know, it's nuts.

Also having been wrestling because it's like, he's always it on to the offspring. It's not, you know, it's not. I also haven't been wrestling because it's like he's always wanted to do the strike itself. I'm gonna put him in the wrestling, you know, so he doesn't want to like fight too much of this tonight. He likes the wrestling and he's all right because he's very quick, but where his give slide just say me isn't like fucking strik hands, but holding smokes. Nothing better. Headkicks already throws one, two, fakes, you know, now every day now the new thing is like, I want a partner to try the things with. I want a partner. So now he wants to spar it in. I'm like, I cure. If I let him taste that.

No, this would be usually like a good age to start letting him spar with a big glove. A glove, yeah. Where they get away, you know, they just be touching each other and I heard each other. But I'm afraid he might get that he's gonna bite and then when he bites and I heard each other, but I'm afraid. He's a dog and he's gonna bite. And then when he bites and he takes that blood, that's it. Can you see every of him back here in Berlin? Yeah, I thought it was just fucking dude, though.

Damn. So yeah. Yeah, it's definitely in the blood. It's crazy. My daughters are very gifted in the hospital, but thank goodness she does not care to fight. She doesn't want fight or nothing like that. She's old held 14 now.

But she got gifted with hand speed and stuff like above average hand speed, you know. It's good chance to choose. Yeah, she has a tool. She has a tool. And I had a train you did so far about a year and a half just so she could defend herself. Yeah.

So every so often I take her back so she just like, like riding a bike, you know, I mean, she's like, yeah, she never wore a mask as well. No, she got to find her piece. She goes upazzalos. Matt, you gotta find your piece. Show's up to the house. Why are you peeing cus?

I saw, that's my baby girl right there. Yeah, I think girl love dogs. My little, my little man and my daughter is like my, my family is like, for sure, really, you know, it's me, my mom, my dad, my kids, and that's pretty much it. Yep. Wow. Nothing better brother.

We're really in 40 or five. We know he gotta get going. Nothing better brother. Well, religion four to your five. We know he got to get going. He's got to start training. So I don't know what that is. Oh my God, could you imagine this dude on my bed? You might have to start training. Well, we've been trying to, first we got to get him to at least commentate one.

We've been trying to get him to commentate one. That's a good one. Come down for that, 100%. We're getting to commentate. Come down, come down. And then in the comments, yes. See the vibe and then we have some, somebody wins here and then maybe gets excited

and he goes in the ring and then we have the face off and then maybe he gets excited and goes on the ring and then we have the face off. I'll get in this here, you get in the other here. And then he's weak, he'll end up going all right. Okay, so everybody watching the show because everybody's gonna start sending us a message, you have to be a heavy weight, you have to be retired. Yeah, jobs coming out of his head.

Don't get it twisted. He's coming out of retirement. He's still got dog in him. He does have dog in him. That dog never leaves. I'm telling dick jokes tonight. I know, but you still got, you him. He does have dog on him. That dog never leaves. I'm telling dick jokes tonight, but you know. I know, but you still got, you're the kind of guy though,

if you get in somebody kind of insults you a little better with you, that deal out is that dog no mental. He'll get, he'll be like, you know, we're playing volleyball in this rather famous comedian female goes, I thought you're a pro athlete, I thought you'd be better. I thought you'd be better. I spiked ball to finish. He literally just went like this. I just thought I knew me better. I thought you knew me better. I spiked the ball to finish. He literally just went like that.

So I'm dead serious. He just went, he looks, and he looks at his trainer at the time and he goes, we have to win. We have to win. And he spiked that ball right, never. I get out of spiking, I don't know. So he'll get it going, just, we've got to get it going. Do you play football, still, ever?

You miss him? I'll play cat because my son's in football now. He's really into baseball. Whatever he's into, that's what I get. Oh yeah, I get it. Yeah, that's how it goes, Doug. But you don't play like with your boys ever, like, miss it like that?

No, no, no. How about spawn? You still miss around? I'll hit mid, still. I hit mid, there's like George Foreman's son owns a gym literally across the street here. So I go there all the time. Nice.

I just, I like the gym vibe, like the guys, you know? I'm gonna start sparring. Damn, he's gonna hit me. Let's find him a pony for Brian too. We'll do a. Right. I just, I like the gym vibe, like the guys, you know? I think it starts sparring. The hammer's gonna be tough. Let's find out a point for Brian too. We'll do a tag team. I'll do it. I would actually do it. I need a guy who's like, you know, in his 50s or 40s.

Or 60s. I'll fight. I'll fight pretty much anybody. And as long as they're not pro. Dude, hear me out. Biden. Brian, be cool. Be cool.

I'm spippin' on ideas here. I'm spippin' on my ideas I didn't get on the mic and mumbles I get nervous thinking about it because I would take it really seriously I think you in that guy in the debate he catch a heart attack and just fucking quote This is the greatest fucking Yeah, I've ever seen in history I don't get a started brother. We'll talk about it You guys started, bro. That is the world. There are countries being destroyed by this fucking

you're pushing me. You're pushing me. Don't get me started. You talking back. You talking back. And then on this note, it feels like the, and you know, I know I've shared the story before with you guys in many occasions,

my parents escaped communism, socialism, so since a kid, this was just a hot topic, constant hearing about it, constant, constant, constant. So my theories don't come off like some YouTube video that I saw like two weeks ago on us. Yeah. It's just like the life experiences, exactly Venezuela, QAW, QAW,

what's happening in Costa Rica, is starting to lean very hard that way. I just feel like the Communist Party has infiltrated like the Democratic Party and it's showing. It's just bad ideas. The idea of socialism, the idea that you can socially engineer equality with a huge government bureaucracy. It's just power and it only goes to them.

That's right. You're going to Santa's wins, has a shot? I mean, you can be sad if he leaves, Florida. That is a thing that I think all of us, Floridians are like, we're losing the greatest governor in history of governors, but if it's to a greater good to serve as a president, but also he's got a, he's got,

I think the tallest building, he's got the tallest building. He's not gonna be Trump. No, he got a, he got a, when I be VP, BVP, he won't be in the primer. Nobody's gonna vote. No, but he should be VP. But I don't think the sense, maybe it's an ego thing, he doesn't wanna be VP.

I wouldn't do BB because you become invisible. And anybody who gets close to Trump tends to, things don't work out a lot of times. So I would say he should stay governor of Florida, if let Trump go through this thing. He's got a lot of things to deal with with these indictments. But wait another four years, man. And then go for it.

He killed it in Florida and then go crush it. He's a young man, dude. He's got time. That's the exact same plan that I will want, so I could keep him as my governor again and then let Trump, because he's also older, we don't want, we don't, Trump's 77, you know, let him,

let him go now, let him do his four years, and then let the Santas come for eight years straight And a lot of people don't want to Santa's to win because they want them as the government We're taking the San Boo I would suggest that the Sanstances team knows exactly that so typically they see the poll comes you ever watch somebody becomes president You you you you make a run it takes a while knowing that you just get yourself out there Knowing you're not gonna make in the primaries, but you make a run you make a similar with you back to being governor Now we're like all that guy now people like us are talking about him running the next time

Decenters in the headline. Yeah, he's still feature. That's right. It's still feature Yeah, he's a big and strong. I mean if if just Trump wasn't there, I think he'd smash every every Republican. He would smash him. Trump is just too entertaining. And it's just not overnight. It's a long lineage of freaking the Trump show, you know. Do you ever talk to Trump? I like a dude. You got to you. You can't like Colby. Do you ever? No, I never told him. I don't even think he likes Colby. He's just somebody advocating for him and just his team using them like Yeah, put us up in the synapse, but I don't think he actually cares for COVID to tell you truth man

I would trump the last time he a message me was at the fights on Saturday He saw me on TV like looking sharp my man stay off Everybody will be freaked out because of course I showed it. Look who messes me man. You're legit sled now bro. You're a strong cruise in Florida. Well, he's also top crew. Like he walked around.

He can't walk anywhere. Every what's funny about a fighter of his stature is every major movie star knows who you are. So if you walk into a Hollywood party, everybody from Will Smith, whoever it might be, you also want to use it though. You're not gonna be like, is that a horror? Like there's not a lot of people that look, you know? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no That's a horror The weather That's a Miami thing and you can pull that off Not even you can pull that off

You got to be no you should have your own clothing line. I wish Bro step in I just don't have the hair. All right. We know you're busy But I know your team says you got a role so we appreciate man Thank you We're gonna have him do the squawfin' the ring with wherever he picks it. I want that guy next. That's it. Bro, count me in.

I'm down. Alright, love you guys. Thank you guys, man.