The Fighter & The Kid - Justin Gaethje Just Changed Everything | TFATK Ep. 1198

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen react to UFC Freedom 250 and break down one of the wildest nights in UFC history.The guys discuss Justin Gaethje's incredible performance against Ilia Topuria, Sean O'Malley's huge win, whether Gaethje should retire, Bo Nickal's evolution, Michael Chandler's future, Tom Aspinall, Ciryl Gane, and why this White House event may never happen again.Did Justin Gaethje just change the lightweight division forever?Let us know your thoughts in the comments.Paka - To grab your PAKA hoodie, go to http://pakaapparel.com/. That’s http://pakaapparel.com/Quince - Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to https://quince.com/fighter for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Nuro Pouches - Don’t sleep on [@ultrapouches]. New customers get 15% Off with code Fighter at https://takeultra.com/! #UltraPouches #adShopify - Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at https://www.shopify.com/fighterO'Reilly - Stop by O’Reilly Auto Parts today or visit us at oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER that’s oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERProgressive - See if you could save when you switch to Progressive. You’ll feel good about making a savvy choice. Visit https://www.progressive.com/ and see if you can enjoy a little extra cash back.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is really the fighter and the kid. Oh, fighter and the kid, but it's looking a little different because Callan decided to go sit in the sun in Mexico. That's hard, Mexico. And you know, Brendan, I'm here in Puerto Vallarta. Is the cartel using your mouth? Well, I don't know if you remember, but they attacked the airport and the town.

Yeah. And that's good for what's called tourism. Yeah. So they had a bunch of cancellations. And when I say a bunch, I mean all the cancellations. Hey, but you know what? You got a good deal. We got a good deal and we are the only ones here.

And so that is pretty cool when you're playing golf and there's zero. There's literally no one anywhere to be found. You know that it's either you're either going to die or you got a good deal. So listen. Do you have fun though? Guys. Do you have fun though? Baba, I had fun.

And if they take me out, they take my whole family out. It's all good. We're in heaven. Now, listen. Now usually I would never agree to a zoo. podcast never I hate them right we just we had to recap UFC Freedom 250 now I just did two hours of it on my show

but listen that's not I need your I need your insight and I'll say this I'll say this and you you know this this is the first time the first time ever when I was watching the event I couldn't wait I literally count down the days I was watching the event I went I wish I went It's the only time I've ever watched a fine. Oh, man, I wish I went. Now, now it's also the only event that you,

you typically any event I can get tickets to. Any event, I always know somebody I can get ticket. This is the only event where I couldn't get tickets. And you're very close to a guy named Joe Rogan. I mean, you guys, I didn't even ask him. I didn't even ask him, but it just, you know, I don't think you and I could have got into this one, Bubba. It's probably the one thing.

we probably couldn't have gotten into. Because if we really put our minds to it, we're getting into anything we want, this was the one where it's like, hey, listen, not free. Now, are you a military? Are you a war hero? Are you a first responder?

You're just a guy. Are you podcast comic? Oh. And you just, you want to come in? Right. Oh, I'll tell you where we would have gotten in.

I'd tell you with no problem. We would have gotten into that watch party with 80,000. Yeah. No problem, dude. Buddy. if we in hindsight we probably should have went to that probably should have went to that we would have watched it on a big screen and then we would have looked at each other and said should have stayed home what uh you were watching the fights from Mexico from Mexico um and uh

give me your thoughts give me your thought did did did it go better and you thought now I'll tell you this ready for this number now that now they're still adding it up they're still adding the numbers up I was just talking to Rogan literally before 40 retires, talking Rogan. They're estimating minimum, minimum, 130 million people watch this fight. My lord. My, well, listen, I'm going to say this.

It's always risky when you're doing it on the White House because you get loose cannons like Josh Hokic, who says things that I don't really, I didn't like that personally. It should be expected, though, expected. A little clumsy. You know, I think he's a very, I think he's probably got a really high fight IQ and blah, blah, blah. Super I don't get twisted.

Yeah. And a hell of an athlete. But take him out of it. Take that out of it. Take that negative out of it. I'm going to take him out of it. I'm going to say this. I thought it was, I thought, I thought it was so classy.

I thought it was so beautiful. Right. Can you, can we talk about how talented that fucking band was? Bro. Are they not the MVP of the entire night? Did they miss a note? I was like, what? The president's, what is it?

The president's band or some shit? like that? I don't know. That black woman, that dude with that who was like, he played that Johnny Cash cover. Bro. When Justin Gagey walked out? What? I was like, what is, what is going on?

And then they played that, they played that, the Spanish song for support. They played that they played Chamas. Oh, I mean, this is, whoever put this on is a genius. Walking down with congressional metal honor winners, flanked with a fireman, flanked with a fireman, flanked with a detective, decorated first responders. I was like, I mean, come on, dude. How about Justin Gagey reading the Declaration of Independence before he walks out? Oh my God.

Oh, my God, dude. It will be, and I looked at my kiddos. I went, guys, guys, because they're like paying attention. Can I mess around? I went, hold on, hold on, sit down. I go, buddy, fellas, listen, gather around. I go, this will never happen again in my lifetime or your lifetime. This, you will never ever see this again.

And Ty goes, but dad, there's going to be other presidents. There are. The never will ever entertain this. This will never happen again. And Brandon, I'm going to take heat for this. But, you know, I'm going to compare it to what happened under the Biden administration. Now, you and I know that UFC MMA, when you're fighting on that stage, to get there, to get there, and to perform well, to perform badly is such an accomplishment. It requires, say it with me, all of you.

It's a sport that requires all of you. Your training, your courage, your craftsmanship, your team. And it's just, I love watching effort on that level. And so, okay, beautiful. The Biden administration had a giant LGBTK parade, and there were a number of people in drag, and they took pictures, topples. So that was cool, too.

So that was patriotic too. Same same same, right? And without being a fan of UFC, without me, I know that people said it was backyard wrestling. I get it because you don't understand the sport. I get that it's a little rough around the edges. I get that. But I do kind of miss the Biden days when a man could dress,

thrown a wig and then be a witness to the ceremony. And then girls, quote unquote, could take pictures of their, They're band tits. Hey, some dude posted. So it's the best picture of all the. I'm going to get it framed in studio here. It's a picture of the White House with the UFC freedom like octagon, the big USA flag. And the fighter jets flying over.

And with the flags flying. And then there's like lightning. I got emotional. Oh, do me too. Me too. And some dude just snap that picture and posted it on Twitter. He goes, man, I'm not trying to be political. I'm not a fan of Trump.

He goes, I'm not even political. He goes, we are so back. He goes, he goes, USA is so back. It's like, you're fucking right, man.

And by the way, Trump signed that deal with Iran on that day, too, which is pretty cool, right? I mean, look,

it went off with such a bang. I am kind of proud of myself because I, most of my picks, I called most of my picks. O'Malley looked beautiful. O'Malley looked beautiful. Yeah,

that was the only one I think you were off on. And yeah, with O'Malley. I always root. I always root for O'Malley. But if I was putting money, I wanted to put money. I was only putting, if I didn't bet, but I said, if I were to put money, Zhabi has a high fighter cue and he's got his brother and GSP in his corner. So you can, you could see them game planning.

He's not the athlete. I know, but their game, their game plan was it's like, and Rogan D. D.C. alluded to this, which I, I disagreed with him on this. Like, his game plan was like, avoid big shots and just inside leg kick, but they weren't the damaging leg kicks that compromise a fighter, especially sugar. They were slaps and moving out of the way. So I'm like, hold on. The game plan is just the inside leg kick for 15 minutes.

Like eventually you're going to have to fight. And I think they told him that. And then I came in, you got to bear down and take some shot. Like we got to exchange here a little bit. He's like, oh, I'll do that. Boom, night's over. O'Malley, O'Malley is different. And I always, like for me, I'm always going to root for O'Malley.

have to have to yeah unless you're tears so i just loved seeing him win but i i i i i've been a gone dick rider forever as you know um i i just saw what i saw him do to uh before the eye pokes with aspinall i was watching it going damn and now to see what he did to chama and again you know hey b but be just real quick yeah and it is what it is illegal shots again though six or of illegal shots to the back of the head again? Well, okay, let's get, let's get in that. Before we get in that, my thing is like,

you didn't need to do that. Could you not fucking cheap shot for once, for God's sakes? Yeah. Like, he was going to win no matter what, but I also think, like,

there's a reason, I was talking about this on Big Ground Breakdown. There's a reason nobody, no one in the history of combat sports has ever been a three division champion. Boxing, get the fuck out of it. It's like one pound.

But I'm sorry. in mixed martial arts, there's a reason. Now, Cyril Gahn couldn't make 205, little on 185 if he tried. There's a reason. Like you, you would never make 205. I just, I can't, I can't. I can't.

You have a brain like your heavyweight division can't. So when God, so the reason why the odds were so close, the odd makers and experts went, we don't really know, maybe Poton can pull us off right away. Very everyone went, oh, okay, okay, listen, he attempted greatness.

All good, all good. It's just not happening. It's just not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening. So I was cool with the stop. It's all right. Oh, no, no, no.

Okay. We didn't know. Now we know. No, no, no. Okay. No, no. That's so great. Oh, okay.

Oh, we didn't realize. Oh, shit. No, no. He can't fight a heavy way. Okay. All good. Yeah, get them out of. No, no, we're good.

We're good. Yeah. Sometimes you see that and your hand goes to your mouth. You go, oh, oh, geez. Oh, okay. Okay. And by the way, that's why we have eight weight classes. I know Chama got up to 250.

That's fantastic. The end of the day, his bone structure, his frame carries a 205 pound man. Cyril Gahn couldn't do that if you took one of his legs off. And this is what happens when you fuck with the big boys. Seragin could do that when he was 14. When he's 14, we could apply that 185. That's exactly right. Now, I need you also to acknowledge, I think Cyril Gons striking is a different level

too. He seems to be very high level striking. No, he's a, no, don't get, listen, he's a high level striker. Yeah. If they're the same weight, potons are more decorated better striker, but at heavyweight, it's just, it's a different ecosystem. It's just different. He got caught with a jab, didn't he? He got caught with a jabbed.

Fucked him up. Now, to your point, too, there's a weight class for a reason. You can even say this about Ilya. Look, look how small Ilya was compared to Justin. Justin's the first real lightweight he's ever fought. Because listen, he fought, he fought. Carlos Olivares start at 1.45, right? He fought, who else did he beat?

He beat Max Halle-A-Start at 145. These aren't natural lightweights. Now, you fight Justin who, do you think Justin can make 145? No. Take a little break here from chatting with a kid. What's softer than Casimir and warmer than wool? It's not a riddle. It's Alpaca hoodie.

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You did. It's because I had, I had been at the UFC and I saw how big he was. I saw his back. Big. Big. I went and you used to train with him. I went, oh, that's a, that's a. He's at least 190 right now.

Oh, yeah. And by the way, he changes people's lives. He changes, he ends careers. He hits you so fucking hard. Patty Pimlet, I don't care what it is, Tony Ferguson, when you want to stand in exchange. And I knew, I knew that that to Poria, as great a boxer as he is, he's got to get close. He's going to applaud towards you, just like Poetton does. And I was like, you're going to pay a big price with a guy who hits harder than.

you. Oh, it's poor. It's hard. Yes, he does. Justin Gache. Remember what Kabeb said. Kabib said, I've never been hit. His power is ridiculous. And again, you've always said this. Justin Gage is a ridiculously good athlete. He's a very good athlete. Crazy. And a fucking veteran. A veteran. And you don't get away with anything with that guy. You get him. He's the guy. He's different. It's like you get away with everything with other people. Gachie, you just don't get away with certain things. You don't. And if you want to get in there and slug with him, you might get lucky, like not lucky, but you might catch him the way Max Holloway did. But not, Holloway is another tall, big guy. To Poria.

Let me ask you this, B, what do you, if you're Justin, what do you do? I, I think you should, this is it, doesn't get any better than this, right? For the sunset. Doesn't get any better than this. I want him to retire. Same. And by the way, you sail off in the sunset, swan song, of Swan songs and you you retire with legendary status and you have a second career you call Brennan Chob you say Brendan you're super good at transitions please help me I want to know what I should do I know you have the game plan for him he follows that game plan he makes just as much or more money now does anybody not love him does anybody not love him so so you got your brain intact, please take, please stop this. And, and there, I can't think of a better way to

retire. Now, best retirement ever. Best retirement ever. Doesn't get better. You know, these guys have so much trouble with that. It's very hard to say goodbye to that, that. But he's thinking about it. He's that he even told, because he told his mom, he's like, this might be my last one. I promised her I wouldn't decide tonight. But it's like, buddy, this is the best end of the movie ever. Or, or we can turn this into a horror movie. if you want to keep doing what everyone else does. You end up face down, ass up. We can do that.

This is why I said on Big Brown Breakdown. Anybody who's telling him otherwise is trying to get their hand in his pocket and they're not his friend. Yes. The thing you should do, retire, it's never going to get better than this. Retire, retire.

If Connor wins, is a big if Connor wins, and then the UFC and Connor beg you to come out of retirement and fight in December, now we can do that because that's a favorable fight, favorable matchup and we'll make all the money. But we're not sticking around to fight arm and you make all the money. All the money.

You make $30 million. And it's a good fight. It's a good fight for him. It's a good fight. But other than that, unless they're going to beg you to come back and fight Conner, there's nothing. Other than that, other than that, nothing.

Nothing. You fight, you fight Connor at 70s, so you have a leisurely camp. Sure. And you put a molly whopping on, on him. Yep.

And you, and you retire, that's a $30 million. Anything other than that, we're not doing it. You go play golf, do backflips on your lawn, go with your girl, and sign autographs and tits. Sign autographs and tits, Baba. That's what it is.

Now, now, we, we, we, I'm going to make, here's the thing. Tuporia and boy, MMA, I'm looking at this beautiful man. I'm looking at him, make that walk. I'm like, boy, it doesn't, classy, looks fantastic. and and then and then uh and then he gets that damage that damage he will not be the same fighter ever they announced what happened so uh broken iro rwoodle broken nose so you're out at least six to eight months right and he did just issue a statement saying you know i had the best camp in my life i was ready to go justin you're just that good hats off to you but this story's not done i'll see you

you're not we're never rematching nothing's over you don't do rematches when you get beat up for three out of four rounds. There's no rematch. When you can't, when you can't finish the, there's no rematch. He goes, he goes, you shut my eye in the, in the, shut my left eye in the first round. By the third round, I can see out of my left or right eye. So there's that. So there's that. So yeah, okay, there's that. Yeah, we got to stop. We got to stop. We got to stop. The base looked unrecognizable. And I went, that's the horror. That is the horror of, of MMA. I mean, if you want to, if you want to mess around, that's my dad in the background, 86 years old. Big dog.

In bananas, no, with the peel on. This is, this is my thing with Ilya. And you've seen this too, B. It's like, you know, Justin said going in this fight goes, I've lost before. It's all good. Like, I think his loss is a max and to Khabib set him up for this success. He's lost before and he goes, it's not the end of the world. I know with my fine style, I can lose on any given night.

It is what it is. I train the same. But I'm not invincible. If I'm not on my peas and cues, I'm going to lose. Ilya was told by him, by his team, everyone around, you're the God's gift of the UFC. You can't lose. You have the touch of God. Dude, he had a victory party Saturday night before the fight, celebrating the fight.

I know. I know. And then when I heard that, I went. And I told you, I was like, I, I, I said, it's a tough choice, but I like it. Remember? Because I said, I know. I got Justin and this. It's cute.

It's cute to you lose. And then. And then. Just no respect for the war host, Justin Gachie, you're just going to walk forward and not funny. You're going to walk him out in two minutes. And he just walked forward like this. I went, what's he? I looked at my wife.

I go, what's he doing? Oh, he doesn't. I went, he doesn't respect Justin. Oh, no. He's not taking serious. You can say that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. And then jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab.

Jab, jab. I'm like, the fuck is he doing. No faints. And to notice that second round, he starts, has more success. Don't say, send it up. But the lack of respect for the great American. And hey, Spain, hey, Spain, fuck around, find out. Hey, hey, hey, Bubba, these colors don't run.

Hey, hey, hey, these colors don't run. Now, Spain, span of working body. Span working body. Spain hits you with good body shot. But guess what? Get your liver, but. These colors don't run. These colors don't run.

These colors don't run. And you're on our front. long? Hold up. Hold up. Hey, Spaniard. Hey, Spaniard. Hey, El Matador. Hey, killer, as they call you. These colors don't run. And you're on the front porch. And by the way, he came, he came to our house, Papa. You can't, you can't call me out. You can't come to my house and go, come out on your front lawn. I'm going to fight you. You came all the way from Spain to do that. These colors don't run, Bubba. And also, you're going to come. My house is watching me from the house. Bubba, you didn't come up to my house and I take your shoes off? You're going to disrespect the house,

not taking shoes off? We got the Declaration of Independence it's right there. I mean, I just, it was right there. You know, I was so disrespectful, zero respect,

came in, didn't take his shoes off, just went into the cupboards, went, ah, I don't give a fuck, you're not getting to do nothing. Oh,

Bubba, these colors don't run. Well, well, he, and I clocked something else, and I love to pour you, but he didn't,

he didn't really take in the oval office, didn't look around a little bit. Can I get a little, can I get a pause? Can I get a pause? He's walking, He's walking past the President of Hall of Fame. All the pictures went,

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pause i need a little reverence if you don't mind and justin was waiting and went oh i'm about to give you a red white and black ass whoopin bubba oh buddy white white Black and blue. Yes. White, black and blue. We added black, okay? You get red, white and blue. I'm going to add a little black.

If you guys don't mind, a little black, little black and blue. Mind if I give him a little black eye here? And now the question becomes, can Ilya, because that's got to fuck with your confidence. You were in a fucking car accident, okay? What happened was you came in with a very clean, fresh face. I'm saying this with respect because I respect him. Yeah, you guys have the same nose and face. Fucking fantastic.

you're the golden boy and you left you you got yourself into a serious car accident and i'm not kidding car accident straight up and and you couldn't even be interviewed you had to go to the hospital of course i hope he's makes a full recovery i hope he's great i hope to see him again of course never be the same it's it's very hard to be the same you know what you know why be and it happened to ronda too is when your team is telling you you're the best thing on earth you can't lose you're untouchable you you're God's chosen one. And then Justin Gates goes, oh,

you disrespect my house. And then he goes, oh, shit, I'm not, I'm not the chosen one. It's like, oh,

no, God doesn't give a shit, dude. No, no, God's not playing favorites. You don't have a special skill set. You just train hard.

Everybody does. You can't stand and bang with Justin. Ask Tony Ferguson, ask Patty Pimlet, ask anybody that he just, he just hits you so fucking hard, man.

But being out, Now, I just remember. Now, you gave up on Patty. Patty's pretty good. Very good. Patty's better than we thought. Right? My takeaway went,

ah, Patty's pretty fucking tough. He got his asshole for five rounds, didn't quit on the stool. By the way, by the way. But Patty's, again,

Bubba, Patty's a big person. Huge. Huge. Patty is up to 220. Huge. Huge. Too big.

Too big. So, disrespectful, big. He has a small guy, Bob. Tiny. Tiny. You,

you, you, you, you, Walk toward a giant 55er like that, who hits with that kind of power. Who is that much of a veteran? Who's that good an athlete? Who's a two-time All-American?

A real athlete, man. And so, you know, it was a beautiful thing. The challenge for Elyat Teporia now becomes, who am I now? How do I deal with that? Look, it's very hard to be that confident when you paid a price like that. It really is. You get gun shy. I can't think of anybody.

If you were coaching him, how would he fight? How would he fight to Poria? I mean, Justin Gaiti again, if he ever had to. How would he fight him again? They're never going to fight again. Justin's not going to give him a rematch. He's either going to retire or fight Connor, so he's never going to happen. You wake up, your face is swollen shut, and at the end of the day, you're still 5'2.

Yeah. Ain't that a bitch? And you want a disrespe? the Oval Office, Bubba? You want to disrespect the Oval? And you're 5-2? What world are you living in, Baba? What world are you living in it?

5-6, let's let's be a little bit more. Definitely not 5-6, about 5-2 on a good hair day. Listen, and you're going to come into the White House and not take your shoes off? Well, guess what? We got an old country boy here named Justin Gachie, and he wants to have a little talk with you, son. Well, Justin was fighting for the first responders and the troops. Justin had a great deal of reverence

as you should as you should pretend and read the declaration of independence you and I have been in that room to me the Oval office in the White House to me is hallowed ground it's hallowed ground

when I'm there I'm on my best behavior you and I were in suits we're in suits dude how about we're watching is that a liar we were we in shoes no we're in suits no you and I were suits yeah Jay was there too we're all in suits we have to be yeah we're suit and ties dude how about

we're watching they're showing the inside of the white house and you know joanna's an interior decorator and she goes looks a little dated i went i went i went what what did you say the the level of disrespect that was going on at the white house yeah yeah yeah i have it dated what do you think first of all you're in the oval office i need i need some reverence i need you to take a look around for a second i would like you to bow your head a little bit i want your head bowed a little bit please. Now, Monolowow Winski did, right? So Bill Clinton kind of. And that's where my father, my father, the Marine said the biggest problem I have was the guy let himself get his dick sucked in the Oval Office. And to me, in my dad said that's inexcusable. He's an excuseable. And he's

my favorite president for that. He got in my face about it. He's my favorite president for that. My face, the only time he got to my face and had to look down on me, by the way, at 6'4, I said, I said, it's a blowjob. And he, he, I was in my 20s. He got in my face. He got in my face. and he said, I never forgot this. He said, you need to fortify your philosophical base. You need to understand that there are people that fought and died for this country. And you have not yet built a bedrock of moral. You have not built a morality you can anchor into.

And I'm going to need you to go do that. He said, you need to go do that. It's going to take you about a year. Gave me a reading list and dismissed me. And was in my face looking, down. And by the way, appropriate. Yeah. But also, Dad, did see Monica Louise's pet her lips like?

Come on? You see what that mouth to do, baby? And by the way, my, and to quote my buddy, Jerry McFadden, who said, I said, he goes, my jury goes, I would have taken a blowjob too, but I want my president to be better than me. Oh, facts. Facts. Facts.

That's a great point. It's a great point. So, so Bubba, um, uh, Garcia was looking fucking beautiful. He was looking great until he wasn't. You know, it wasn't great. Rogan's tie, a little short, right?

Well, that was a little short. That was beautiful. I looked at his tie and I went, that's a guy. Dude, I got Terry-eyed. I got Terry-eyed. When I saw him in a tie, I was like, oh, fuck, I got Terry-eyed. Now, I merely started laughing because his tie was too short. It was a clown tie.

Yeah. It was a clown tie. My acting teacher tells a story about his. His family member, kid was 16, died of a drug overdose, horrible, terrible, terrible. The brother and sister are there, and their uncle who they never would see, who was a plumber, had a tie that high, and reserver at the punins. My condolences on account of your brother, my condolences. And obviously, it's your brother who died.

The brothers went, she went, did you see his tie? They couldn't stop laughing at the funeral. Dude, Louis C.K. did a post he goes about rogan he's a picture of rogan his tie he goes he hasn't won that ties into his nine that exact tie that was a clip on that was a clip on it was an outrage our boy doesn't wear ties a lot though our boy don't wear ties the tie came up to his nipples yeah you make what we're a bib okay that that tie you get a two on one you get it comes with a bib yeah it's tough a bib it's for it's for the it's you know what that tie is it's for your toddler

when you go to a funeral or a wedding. It's a wide one. What did you think of our boy, Bo Nickel? Well, he looks, I mean. Look good. Incorporated wrestling. What's usually a knee pick? He just ended up, I'm going to pick you up.

I'm going to pick you up sideways, slam you down. I'm going to pick you up. Like I throw someone in a pool. Like I throw my girl into a pool, okay? And then I'm going to throw you. down and man he that was a beautiful punch his his learning curve crazy yeah and he can't help himself he loves the striking game yeah but but but my my whole thing with him when he just just strike and i can't stand it but when he incorporates the wrestling which sets up the strike in now i'm on board

how do you feel about our boy uh michael chanler look it's time to stop well look you don't look better at 40 physically. He couldn't even, you see his body at 40 years old? Sure. I mean, um, you're dealing with Huffy is a killer. He's a killer, but Chandler landed three punches in the fight. Yeah, we, we knew how that was. It's time to stop.

Yeah, it's time to stop. Well, time to stop. Uh, yeah. Yeah. It just is. It just is. It's a new breed of fighter, these guys. Him and Derek Lut, like if Chandler or Derek Ler, and Justin all said they were done. I'd like make sense. What happened with Derek Lewis, though, it looked like he literally gassed on the walkout.

Yeah. Was a little much for him. Sweat. Sweat. And his face looked good. I was like, this guy's lost weight. His back was fixed six months ago.

He got a back operation. His tummy looked better. Yeah. But it just, uh, yeah. It's time to call today. But overall,

uh, scale one to 10, I give this the 11. It exceeded expectations. 100%. One never be done again. but it was it was a flawless production it was a flawless production hats off to dana white hats off to trump hats off to his entire team i mean you couldn't i was marveling at how beautiful

when they were saluting as they were coming down the steps so good holding the american flag the band the band singing song i i just was so blown away by it and then and then of course but our our nation's finest i know watch the fight the watch party, the weather, God held the clouds for a little bit. Dude, so do you see? So if you watch the storm, the tracker, it was headed straight for it and then gets right to the Y-O-house goes like this. Yeah. God said, not today, Satan. God said, not today, Satan. God said, this is, this is, I held the clouds for the LGBTQ slash drag parade. So at least you can do for us. Pride Month was, was celebrated for about,

a full year at the White House. Correct. Yeah, they're still celebrating. Yep. And so I'm going to, I'm going to do these guys solid. B, so what do you do? What do you do with, are you cool if they do Josh Hocat, Cyril Gond next? This episode, The Fire and Kid is brought to you by O'O Raleigh Auto Parts.

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No credit cards or alien encounters necessary. Pluto TV, stream now, pay never. Let's say Tom Aswell's not, because his issues with Eddie Hearn, I bet they strip Tom, if he's playing difficult, it wants more money. So I would imagine they do Hokit versus Gan next. I'm, I'm, yeah, that's a, that's a bad fight for Josh Hokit.

Is it though? Because he can wrestle. Don can wrestle. He can wrestle. He can wrestle. Baba, I got some news for you. God's past two years has been training with nothing but giant Eastern European Russian Olympic wrestlers.

Two, two Olympic, two guys from the Olympic wrestling team were in his camp in the Russian Limba team giant heavyweights. Sure. He's doing nothing but. So I can promise you this, his takedown defense is going to be a different thing. Hocut's never faced anybody like God, ever. Agreed. So it's going to be a.

It'd be a fun fight though. I look. I'll take it. I wish he wasn't so, you know, but he's a very, very, I think he's probably got a very high fight IQ. I think he's a very special athlete. He's good. And I'd love to see it.

I'd love to see it. I'd love to see it. You're not going to be able to, you're not going to be able to stand and bang the way you did with Curtis Play. No, no, no, no. Or Derek Lewis. No, no, no, no.

It's a different game right now. It's a day. It's tough. It's tough. It's as tough as fight for sure. Yeah, you're going to see a different. It's a different level, different ecosystem, if I may.

Agree, brother. When you're back, pal, let's wrap this thing up. I'm back. I'm back, buddy, I'm back Saturday. Okay, you moved to Mexico. I did move to Mexico. Hey, too long.

When did you get there? Oh, a little too long. How long? I got there Saturday. So it's a full week. That's a seven days for me is and you. That's a lot of people.

It's fantastic. It's, but I'm, you know what I'm loving, you know what I'm loving watching my kids play. I know. You can do that home though, right?

Because your kids don't give a fuck. I remember my older kids are now with my younger kid. Oh, your older kids are there too? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought it was just the Austin fan. Stella,

my 18 year old who's a full grown woman see you buffs yes and then uh my uh 14 year old son who's uh oh i didn't know i didn't know all of them were going fin fin's a looker as as his his mother said he's the flame and everyone else is the moth because uh my boy my boy's got a jaw line oh and he has some nice hair on him yeah my height he's 14 my height he's 14 my height and the The ladies, the ladies see. It's trying to look. Yeah. They're looking and like it.

That sounds fun. Then if you have the whole family, that'd be fun, buddy. We'll get back. We miss you. So we'll wear this. And then we also got the red light dude this week. So we're not missing this week. And then you're back next week.

Yes, Bobler. Yes, we are. So I'll see you. We'll head on a swivel out there. Cartels everywhere. Stay on the property. Always on the property. Stay on the property.

Stay on the property. Yeah. Now, if you talk to the locals, I'd be like, no, it's fine. You're good. Dude, what? No, that's all, that's all media propaganda. Listen, it's fine. Until you send me in a video with a, as they're chainsawing my head off.

I know. And they'd be like, you send us one million cash. Like, but I'd be like this. I can't. Find a kid. Find out of a kid. Subscribe. Fight on a kid.

And when I'm going to go, dude, I like you on that. And then I kill you. Yeah, I can't send that money. All right, buddy. Well, how fun in Mexico. Thanks for taking the time, pal. Kid me? I love it. All right, bud. I'll see when you get back. Be safe out there. All right, guys. See you later, everybody.

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