The Fighter & The Kid - Keith Jardine & Tait Fletcher | TFATK Ep. 1106

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

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There are different kinds of strength. Yeah, and you have to measure strength. Okay. No, when someone here is strong, he must be strong in the weight room. Hey, hold on. Just, and then we'll move on and we'll get started with the show. Sure. It's a lie. No, no, no, no.

Listen, listen, listen. I don't like you, man. Listen, I sent you, I sent you a fucking video. You have to bleep this out, Gene. Damn it. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. Shirts are high. Listen. Hey, shirts fabricated, right? You saw my hand speed.

Did you see my hand speed? Yeah, man. Now, now how many 58 year olds do you know are shooting doubles and singles? Cause that's what I did today. I went three rounds of wrestling. Most 58s are shooting blanks. Three rounds of wrestling today. I'm getting st...

I'm going to waste the time. Hey, I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time.

I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I'm going to waste the time. I that's what I did today. I went three rounds of wrestling. Well it's 58, so shoot blanks. Three rounds of wrestling today. I'm getting, I'm gonna waste the time. Hey. Hey, I'm getting strong. Hell yeah man. Yeah.

You're like, My jujitsu has a, ask me what my jujitsu, like what informs my jujitsu? I'm gonna sound like the guys you hang out with. Yeah. How's your jits? Okay, my jits is good. It's got a heavy wrestling base to it.

Yeah. My jujitsu's got a heavy wrestling base to it. Yeah. My Jits has got a heavy wrestling foundation. When they sent me pictures of you wrestling, like your boys always send it to me from the gym. I said, he looks like the coach from Foxcatcher. You weren't even forced to the young guys wrestle with him. He's in a singlet. Steve Carell. Yeah. Steve Carell at Foxcatcher. Oh my God. That's what you look like. Just all heavy and tight. You sure as a lie though. No, no, no. That's a problem I have. So I'm glad you said this because I'm starting to straight bench. I'm straight in that.

Well, mentally strong. And unless I'm on a plane for too long, then I start to freak out. But other than that, wrestling wise. But just do me a favor, whoever made that shirt, at the top of it, mentally strong. No, I don't like that.

Because when I see just strong, it makes me upset. It does make you upset. that. Because when I see just strong, it makes me upset. It does make you upset. You know when I just see red, dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, if you feel froggy, please leave, because please leave, because I speak this language now a little bit, right?

I'm Texas now, which means I train. You know what language I speak? What's that? Homs, Shemayev language. Because I was in his camp for a little bit. I got an inside look as the insider thought. Can I get some color on that? Inside insider. Can I get some color on that? Can I get some color on that, man?

Dude, he would kill you with his stare. Now how's his wrestling? Let's start with that. Because I, yeah. Be the best I've ever seen. He's got some, he's got, you've seen him against some formidable competition and he seems to do, what's the word?

Very well. He plays with his food. He plays with his food. Until he has to kill. He plays with his food. He plays with his food. Until he has to kill. He plays with his food. Plays with his food. And his food might be high level, pedigreed wrestlers. National champions, yes.

National champions, American national champions. Plays with his food. And then he plays with his food. These are probably 145ers though. Are they 145ers? Are they 1505ers? 1605ers. What are they 145ers? Are they 1505ers? 165ers? What are they 175? No sir. 185ers right? 185ers? We're not talking 205. Those guys are too big. We're not

talking. Come on you're not getting over you're not getting over 205 are you? Buddy. So you're telling me you're telling me national champion heavyweights he's playing around with. And undefeated Chechenian prospects that some people would know, all getting dealt with. All getting dealt with. And now- It's not that they're not good. No, they're very good.

Now he's not, they're not, but they're not, they're going light. There's no sparring. You know the old folklore of shoot the box? Yes. Where they like knock each other out. Shoot the box, shoot the box? Yes. They like knock each other out. Shoot the box. They went, oh, we'll take it from here.

Really? Oh, we're going to take a page out of their book. But they're using at least 16 ounce gloves. You would think, right, 2025? Yeah. MMA gloves. MMA gloves. MMA gloves.

But they're pulling back where they punch at 30%. Sure. Some people got concussed. And they're like, shop, get in there. You know what? Probably could pass. 42. I'm a family and they're like, shop, get in there. You know what? Probably good pass. 42, I'm a family man now. 42, family man. Get a suspect quad. Oh yeah, suspect quad. Yes. Yeah. When you get a guy at the prime of his game like that, was there a temptation to get in there and see how the old grappling? Yeah. I wanted to grapple and wrestle with them. You

want to see what that felt like? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I want to do. Yeah. But then it wasn't that time of the day they were sparring. I'm like, I'm not that dumb. I would say you're very smart not to only because it, it, it, it, it's very easy to just tweak a little something. It was also, but also I'm getting older now and think I'm a little wiser.

I went, oh, this is an ego thing. You just want to see how you do stack up. Here's the end. Here's at the end of the day, end of the day, I'm still bigger and heavier. So it's like, okay, you're going to see how you stack up against an 85er. Like that's not cool. Who gives that's an ego thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Even if I did semi decent, you still got your hands full with that guy. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yes, sir. Right away, sir. Also, you and I would not fit in there. We joke around too much. Yeah. Well, the Dagestanis and the Chechenis are not, they're not known. There's not a lot of standup comedy that comes out of Dagestan and Chechnya.

You were so serious in there. It's also very traditional, old school mountain culture, Islam, mountain culture, isolated culture. Yeah, there's not a lot of joking and playing around going on. A lot of women around? A lot of women just hanging about? There's none. No, it was allowed, right? So, He-Man Women Hater Club. And then also, it was so serious. You know, if you remember when the Schindler's List came out and everyone's, you can't crack jokes in there. It was like that. Yeah. That's a serious camp. Very somber serious camp. It literally is. And they're so disciplined in every aspect, their warmup, everything, the timing, everything so serious. It's just so professional. And it was

literally the differences like, cause you're fighting another grown man in the octagon. So it's serious, you know, work for them. It's like, I was like, Oh, this is like a job job. Yes. Like for me, it was an outlet job job. And there's no, like when I was, when I got done sparring, I'd leave, I could reset, do my thing. There's none of that. But while Muhammad told me that that that that his experience with the Khabib camp. It's just, you train, you pray, you eat, you train, you pray, you eat, you sleep.

The lifestyle. Yeah, there's no, I'll see you at the bar tonight, I'll see you at the club tonight. That shit doesn't work. There's no, let's watch a funny movie tonight. There's none of that. You know, I didn't realize, I always wondered why fighters didn't drink,

like when they're training, they never drink. And I was like, Oh, it's just one drink. It's, it's about sleep. I guess it interferes with your sleep. Yeah. I didn't put that together. No. So when people are like, especially in college America, guys like, yeah, I got drunk. I passed that noon and woke up at 10. I got 10 hours. It's like, our coach would be like, you did it.

You got shit sleep for 10 hours. Yes. Yeah. Cause alcohol ruins your REM cycle and all that. Interesting. Yeah. It destroys your REM cycle. I never knew that. I was like, I just thought people were being- Like when you drink wine at night, and remember how you're all puffy in the morning,

your body's destroyed. That's why I don't drink anymore. Yeah. Literally, I don't drink anymore. No, it destroys you. Those guys ain't touching it. There's no- No.

And then after- It's interesting. It makes sense too, right? Like you save yourself a lot of trouble. I can't believe you didn't know this. I didn't know. You're smart. I just thought it was, I knew that. I just thought, well.

You thought it was a discipline thing? Yeah. I thought, well, you don't want it. You want to be sharp or something. No, it fucks up everything. Everything. Yeah. But then also like Sarukin's there and those boys, they're literally watching tape on opponents,

DDP, other opponents. And Sarukin was there. Sarukin's there, yeah. Wow. But so he's there and you know, he doesn't have a fight coming up, but he's watching fights on potential guys. And he's watching it with no volume and over and over

and over trying to pick up tendencies. And if he sees they do it more than once or twice in a fight, then it's a tendency and he will work on that. But if he sees they only did it once, then he's like, oh, that's not in his repertoire. It's all they do. Different game. They're watching in silence, Brian. Different. And you want to wear a shirt that says strong. Well, there ain't nothing strong, Bubba. No, hold on. My practice this morning was an hour. It was like, there's almost an hour. When you go three rounds of wrestling,

when you, when you, when you work on your speed drills in boxing, when you do, when you do burpees, when you do. Yeah. Arc type boxing. I mean, don't step in there unless you're ready to bring your fucking game. I'm such a Dick with those guys. Cause I get in there and I'm getting, you know, I get my ass kicked, but I'm like, I like side, I'm learning a move and I go,

it's in my quiver now, boys, it's in my quiver. Do that shit at Homslats camp. They're gonna throw you off a bridge. They'll throw you off a bridge. You. Me specifically? Yeah, not me, you. Listen, I know what I'm at.

You, with your stupid strong shirt, you're making these jokes. Yeah, I say a lot of stuff too. I go, do you know what time it is? Because when I step in this fucking ring, we get a sense of what time it is. This is not about looking. You're going to know exactly what time it is.

You know Father Time? You're looking at him. No, no, I don't say that. You know Father Time? No, I go, you guys have been navigating with the sun and the falls and all that. No, no, this should be a new stick when you're going to get in the cage.

You go, you know Father Time? You're looking at him, and Father Time, as they say, is undefeated. Okay, at him, and Father Time, as they say, is undefeated. Okay, that's right. Father Time, I'm old as fuck. I like that. I'm old as fuck, I'm Father Time.

I like that. Brian, the Father Time talent. I like that a lot. Don't you like, because you're older. I like that a lot. So we're playing the older. I'll learn some move from Sean Apperson, and I'll be like, and I just look over at the guys,

and I'm like, Tim, my quiver now, there's quick studies in there, sponges, I'm a sponge. And you have fun doing that, right? And everyone laughs. My quiver's full, boys. And everyone laughs. Yeah. Do that Homsloth's kid.

I'm going to get punched right in the face? Yeah, you get thrown off a bridge. I'm going to get soup- And I'm going to help them. No, no, no, hey, okay. No. Hey, no, no, no, no. I'm with them, man, no jokes around here.

Hey, no, no, no, come on, bro. I, yeah, you're a little more robust than me. You got the years, you got some pedigree to you. But if I walk in with my strong shirt, and did I tell you what Sean said about my wrestling? This is the best description. Because I was arm dragging. He goes, okay, you're not allowed to do arm drag anymore.

Here, okay. And I go, yeah, here he goes. And I go, I know, it's just a wrestling. He goes, yeah, you're wrestling, you just a resting yes. Yeah, you're wrestling you keep saying wrestling He goes your wrestling is the equivalent of my high school Spanish And it was the greatest Fucking I was like oh my god. That's the best description He was just killed at my I've been walking around with my high school Spanish

Yeah, and for that matter my high school Spanish French. You I say, I speak French. It's all, it's all a fucking wishy washy sham. It's all bullshit around a real, my high school Spanish boxing. I'm a black belt in Taekwondo. It's such a good, so good, dude. I was thinking about the last time I like actually competed in Taekwondo, like I sparred in TaeKwonDo. That was... In the 50s. It was, this is, it literally was...

77? No, it was 28 years ago. Right? So you wanna done, was that in the late 90s? That's right, sir. No, before that. I'm sorry, no, it was 1989. There you go, there you go. See, there you go. Well, that's where the 89 master came back? That's right, sir. No. I'm sorry. Before that. No, it was 1989.

There you go. See there you go. Well, that's where the 89 master came back. Hold on. Yeah. That's 35 years ago, brother. Let's not, hey. Oh, that's 35.

I'm your boy. Don't lie to me. That's 35. You're not even in the late nineties. I sure wasn't. No. We're 88, 89. That's the 35.

Back to the future's on. I was kicking around. You're swinging around. You're stupid. I'm going to have my Enzo Grac futures on it. I was kicking around. You were swinging around your stupid fucking heels. I'm going to have my Enso Gracie blue belt, not anymore. Yeah. That back when he was probably, you know, he was like, it's Brian. So yeah.

Give it to him. Give him a little blue belt. By the way, blue belt is when you start like kind of learning, but. Blue belt, you're just getting started. Yeah. Let's take a little break. Guys, you go to the doctor and you get a check up. Cool. Everybody does that. The problem is, it's not that comprehensive. And the problem is, you have to go to the

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I was like, wow, I'm at a high school Spanish level and it's so spot on. Did you have to use any of your Spanish in Columbia? Cause you were just in Columbia. I don't speak a fucking word of Spanish and it's very tough. Now my wife does.

So I was- She's fluent in Spanish? No, but she can speak pretty well. So I was, cause she had, they had a house in Puerto Rico for speak, you know, pretty well. So I was, uh, cause she had, they had a house in Puerto Rico for many, many years, her family in Vieques. So she helped. Pick up, so she can navigate. Yeah. But she's not having a full blown. Comment. Almost, almost she is. I was really impressed actually. Cause I couldn't figure it out. I was like, how do you speak so well? And she's like, well, I live in Vieques and

Okay. Slight flex. But blah, blah, blah. Um, but, uh, blah. But Colombia, Colombia is a fierce culture, a beautiful culture, suffered a great deal of violence, a terrible civil war from 48 to 57. They've always had this communist insurgency that's been in the jungles of Colombia. Yeah, and the reward are fat asses. That run the drug trade. Sure. Then you have the narcos, then you have the elites. And you have fat asses. And families that run everything. And fat asses. Well.

Get to it, bud. Well, they have, they are a very proud, fierce people, speak beautiful Spanish, and they're very classy. It's a very class conscious country, right? But then there's also, and then they're like the lead of the lead and then dirt poor, right? There's no middle ground. There are the elite families.

There are the families that run things. And then there's the military and they are pretty aligned. They are very aligned. And then you have the narco traficas and you have the, the, the sort of communist insurgents that are now have this strange tentative piece. There's a dance between all of these groups.

Um, and then you have mostly the have nots. You have the have nots. Untouchables. They're not unhappy people. And, and the, the economy is flowers, coal, gas. BBLs. And coffee and coffee and coffee. If you want to get plastic surgery, you go to Columbia.

Yes. Okay. Now you don't need plastic surgery when you're a Colombian woman because you're born already with the kind of weaponry that Americans and everybody else spend a lot of money on. Yeah. You understand the, the beauty, the natural

beauty of the women that don't, the have nots, the woman who is still popping. I natural beauty of the women that don't, the have-nots, the woman who is- Still popping. I mean, making your coffee. The woman that is waiting on your table. Big tits. Big juicy tits. Well it's not so much the tits, it's the hindquarters, sir. Are tits out in Columbia?

Sorry? Tits are out? Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of, Sorry? Tits are out? Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of, and it's spilling over to America. I don't like that shit. And then they had the, the wedding was spectacular. It was a concert. It was all white people?

No, it was, it was, but it was the elite of Columbia. And but not so much, not so much. My friend- Did a Colombian get married? It was two Colombians from well to do families. Great people. What the fuck are you doing then? My wife is friends with them.

She went to college. Oh, oh, gotcha. Now here's the cool thing about her friend. We had no, she had no idea he came from what he came from because he's such a class act. I've known him forever, I've known him forever. I mean, he's, you would never know. So when you're Colombian from that family,

there's a discipline to how you behave. Your manners are impeccable. The way you dress is impeccable. You don't show it off. Yeah, you don't necessarily show that off. It's not like- It's like the fucking queen of- You're like a royal.

You're like a royal. You're understated. Very classy. Yeah, you's like the fucking queen. You're like a royal. You're like a royal. You're understated. Yeah. Very classy. You live in the castle. Yes. Yeah. Classy wedding, classy people.

I mean, dressed, dressed to a T. And what'd you wear? Just stupid suit? I was, I was instructed to wear a very nice black suit with a black shirt, sir. No tie? No tie. Thank God.

Not that classy. So all the men were black on black. Oh. And the women were, were, you know, some fantastic stuff. Yeah. Um, now, now you're there for two. Now when you have money in Colombia, that money will buy you what's called happiness. That money will buy you. But are you, are you, would you be considered rich in Columbia? Right? Yeah. Not by the standards of the people I was around, but yeah. But doesn't your dollar go further out in Columbia? We'd be just fine. So yeah, we'd be, you get your, you get your nails done for $5.

Yeah. We'd be, we'd get, you'd get yourself a hell of a, here's what I want. Okay. I want to learn Spanish. I want to, I want to, I want to house on the outskirts of Bogota, Medellin. You're going to need security though. You need security. Yeah. And, and they call you Don. Don? They call you Don, Don Schaub.

Oh, I like that. Don Callan. Oh, I like that. Or Don Brendan. Don Brian. Oh, I like this. Okay. You are, you are to take your coffee in the

morning, by the way, you'll get in the shower. Your clothes, your bed will be made. Your clothes will be ironed. You'll be in the shower. You'll be in the shower. You'll are, you are to take your coffee in the morning. By the way, you'll get in the shower, your clothes, your bed will be made. Your clothes will be iron, sir. Are you talking about the slaves? And your breakfast will be made. You're talking about slaves? That's what they are.

You're talking about slaves? Please, please. These are people with dignity who work very hard. They're just, there is a class consciousness here. Call it human trafficking. These are, these are, these are, there is a way of doing things in Colombia. In America, it's how you say, uh, Call it human trafficking. There is a way of doing things in Colombia. In America, it's how you say human trafficking. I'm not going to get into that.

Yeah, slavery. What I love about Colombia, though, is that they've suffered violence, they've suffered division. But that culture, man, they're so proud of their culture, man. It's the salsa, Ozenkale, which is the salsa capital of the world. Did you salsa? Yes, I did. You should see them salsa, though. Oh, it's the salsa, I was in Cali, which is the salsa capital of the world. Oh, did you salsa?

You should, yes I did. You should see them salsa though. Oh yeah. They can fucking salsa. Professionals came to the wedding and were dancing with us and they grab you and make you start dancing. They grab the white people because they can't shake? 100%.

Not a lot of whites, by the way. Really? Now, if you are of royalty in Colombia, you are, you tend to be, you tend to have some Spanish blood, you understand? Cause remember Columbia, that area had a lot of indigenous Indian people. Yeah.

So more fair skin. Yeah. You'll see in Dominican Republic, you'll see in the Latin countries, people with fair skin that look more Spanish, more European tend to be the ones who run the show. But having said that, you know, and there were some, some Mexican elites there.

Some of the Mexican elites. Is that the Mexicano's in? Yes. And that's also, yeah. Yeah. It's, Columbia is not a place, like you don't want to fuck around in Columbia. You, you would never go to Columbia.

So in Europe. It's like Mexico, right? Like if you're looking for trouble, you're going to find it. That's right. If you're playing the dark arts. Just yes. Columbia is safe for the most part. Go to Columbia and be respectful. Yeah.

And understand that if you want to turn the volume up, they'll turn the volume up in any aspect. Meaning you're not coming back. You're not, just don't think, don't go there and think you're going to rule the roost. There's a way of doing things in Columbia. You know what place I feel like that's not like that? Maybe South Africa, but the middle Africa, not just don't think, don't go there and think you're going to rule the roost. There's a way of doing things in Columbia. You know what place I feel like that's not like that, maybe South Africa, but the middle Africa, North Africa, it's not really like that.

No. I feel like the trouble is going to find you no matter what. So in Europe, right. So, so in, in, in Ireland, in England, in France, um, in Germany, they're having a problem with a lot of young Muslim men from war torn countries that come in and are not assimilating in the country and they find

extremism and they tend to kind of. Or they take over. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of this. They're losing their culture. There's a lot. Well, there's a lot of, there's a strong Muslim fundamentalist movement in some of these countries.

Right. That would never get off the ground in Colombia. You would net that. That would, the minute, no. The minute you had something like that, another culture come in, whatever it was, and try to take over a section of a town. The woke white people put up with that. The Colombians would put a stop to that.

No, no, no. Like that whole woke movement shit? No, no, no, no. In Mexico, huh? No, Mexicans, Colombians Like that whole woke movement shit? No, no, no. In Mexico? No, no, no. Mexicans, huh? No, Mexicans, Colombians, that part of the world doesn't fuck around. They're Catholic, by the way.

Oh, by the way, that wedding, that- Seven hours. Thank you. You're gonna go through a full mass. You're gonna take communion. That's a Catholic country. So bored. And you've got four priests up there.

So bored. Well, it's part of the culture. It's part of the glue of that culture. Did you drink coffee out there? And have some respect. Stand up and kneel down. Did you drink coffee out there? Did I drink coffee?

I drank all the coffee, sir. You didn't bring any back? I didn't, you know why? Because it tastes like coffee. You didn't tell a difference. No, I'll get the best coffee. Now my friend owns coffee plantations. Slaver.

So, no, I could go out there and stay at one of the coffee plantations. Slavery. So, no, no, I could, I could go out there and stay at one of the coffee plantations, which I may do. Right. You never do that. Right. I like that. I got good coffee though. Yeah.

I could coffee, but like, you know where I can get good coffee? America. Right. I can order fresh back off Amazon. That's right. That's right. Eight Italian food in Florence and in Rome. Eight Italian food all over Italy. You know where I can get good Italian food, Bubba? LA. That's right. That's right. Eight Italian food in Florence and in Rome.

Eight Italian food all over Italy. You know where I can get good Italian food, Bubba? LA. Yeah. Yeah. And in Austin, if I have to. Oh, really? Yeah. That's the one thing- Let me back up. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't had that yet. You come in hot. I haven't had it yet. We both love Austin. We love Austin. Came in a little hot. Came in a little hot. Came in a little hot. We love Austin. My number one complaint is the food scene can't touch LA here Especially where I'm at if I uber eats like I found okay. I didn't want to say that loud That's all good. Yeah, I'm choosing the quality life of my kids and my

sanity over food and danger in LA You came and sniff LA food here I'm not gonna say go. What about the barbecue? I can't eat barbecue LA food here. I'm not going to say. You go, what about the barbecue? I can't eat barbecue fucking seven nights a week. No. Yes, the barbecue's great here. Yeah. But as far as general meals, they can't touch LA.

I'm not going to say. Hey, it's all good. It's all good. Yeah. It's all good. I had very good sushi here. Then I had, I went to another place, I'm not going to say the name of it, where they had to tell me everything about the sushi every time they would prepare.

I hate it. I hate that. They told me how deep the fish swim, what the fish eats. I don't give a fuck. I'm like, Hey, I don't want to do this, dude. You're interrupting my conversation. You've confused that. I give a fuck. Right. Hey, sushi is good. Yeah. It's not LA sushi. Come on, Bubba. Come on. Come on. I was just in Newport for God's sake. Come on. I ate at Ocean's 47. The best steak I've ever had. Is that true? Well, you're talking about Newport, Bobo. So please understand.

I know. If I give you now, somebody gives me $100 million. If they come to us and they go, hey, Brian, Brendan, thanks for all the work. And Jeff Bezos goes, I've been listening to you guys for a long time. I don't think you get your due. Here's $100 million for each of you.

Then you know what you and I do without missing a beat. We go to Santa Barbara. And this is all due respect. We go to Santa Barbara. Probably Newport bubble. The houses are too close together. They are? Yes.

Same thing with Manhattan Beach. Yep. That was the one thing I noticed is all like, because the property is so expensive and it's so sought after, each house is so close to each other. I need space. Now you can get space out there,

but you're looking about 30 mil, I think. I'd probably take my asset. I got a friend who's married to a very famous athlete and they got a place in Santa Barbara. Oh, Santa Barbara. It's a farm on a cliff. Different tax bracket though. Oprah lives there, buddy.

And Ellen. Yeah, I've been up there Yeah I've been up there. I've been up there. Spent some time. We had good sports too. I was in my 30s. I was with my girlfriend. We went on a hike and I think it was called the hike of seven falls or something and I remember waterfalls and we were in a waterfall together. In Santa Barbara? Yeah and we were making out in a waterfall. Rock hard of it. Uh, rock hard. And I, and she was so beautiful and she was so young and so such a, she was just one of those gals you looked at.

Possible. Like you're. An angel. You're an angel. You're an angel. And we're going to make love. You're a dirty, dirty angel. A dirty angel.

Dirty. We're going to, we're going to make love in this waterfall. And I didn't, but I did make out with her, but in my mind, I made love with her. But then again, it was. Jacked off hard when he got home. Yeah. Which is the same. We had sex on a rock. That was good on a rock.

She, she, she, this is a lot of information. She gave up her ass on the rock. I was in my thirties. Not that young. I was in my young, she was younger. I was in my early thirties and she, uh, there was this beautiful rock that she hugged and I was like, you're hugging that rock. And you took her from behind. Well, I was in my early 30s and she, there was this beautiful rock that she hugged and I was like,

you're hugging that rock. And you took her from behind like it's Game of Thrones. Because the birds were in the sky and it was 75 and she was so lovely and I loved her. You know what the other advantage, LA weather is fuckable weather. Like that's fuckable outdoor weather. You can, don't hear bugs, you're not going to sweat. My ass will ruin the whole thing. It's like that's fuckable outdoor weather. You can don't hear bugs. You're not gonna sweat my ass Ruin the whole you have tarantulas. You have tarantula Hawks. You've got mosquitoes check check check check all kinds of snakes Yeah, we got rattlesnakes in the neighborhood now. That's yeah. Yeah, you do my neighbor caught a rattlesnake. Yeah, you do

Yeah, you do you do you do I've I've buzzed your I've buzzed your house. I've flown over your neighborhood Yeah, I know the neighbor. So the snakes. Yeah, I like your you I've buzzed your house. I've flown over your neighborhood. Yeah. I know the neighbors. Yeah. I like your, you got a view of the lake. I like your light. I like your, Oh no, it's great. It's fucking great. Listen, I can put up with mediocre food for the, for the

spending time on the lake all the time, every weekend. Almost. Is that right? Yep. Every, we haven't, we haven't been in two weeks because of the floods. You got friends who have a boat. I'm the only one without a boat.

Yeah. Boats are, but, but we, because of the floods, there's like a lot of riffraff in there. Like one guy said he was out there and there was like, dirty, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's all sorts of weird shit. And then the bacteria from all this shit. So you want to lay low on the lake right now, but it's full. It's finally full. Well, it rose. It's full in years. I think 40 feet, 45%. Crazy. So now it's like at 70% full. I've, I, there was a little Island where we would go to and pull up. It's gone. Yep.

Which is awesome. Yep. It is. We're on the lake all the time. I landed on one of those islands. Oh wow. Yeah. And then we took off.

And that's not true either, but I could have landed on that island. There's a lot of stuff I say that I could have done. You guys could have. That's just as good. Just as good. Just as good. Just like I wrestled D1. I didn't, but I could have. Well, even though I took the bait. And we don't even know if I could have. You guys could have. That's just as good. Just as good. Just as good. Just like I wrestled D1. I didn't, but I could have.

And we don't even know if I could have, right? We don't know what kind of D1 program American University was, but we do know it was a D1 program. Now does that mean I could have wrestled at Oklahoma? Does that mean I would have had a spot on the team in Oklahoma? You want me to answer that? Yeah, go ahead. No.

No? No. Okay. Yeah. It's all good. Yeah. That's right. It's all good, but That's right Do you see Shane Gillis on he was so good. I watched Shane preparing for it

So I watched him trying out those jokes, you know, and and they were great Hall of Fame He's so great He's so so fucking good when he goes, let's give it up around applause, blah, blah, blah from the WNBA and starts clapping us. I'm just kidding. That's my friend's wife. Can't believe you guys clap for that. So good.

People were so mad. I love it. I know. I love it. No, that's what you, it's hall of fame performance. I saw that. I'm like, dude, I had, I had, I had seen joke, but it got deleted. Yeah. He's like, it's weird. I always forget Mike dude. I had a crowd was a laughing joke, but it got deleted. Yeah, it's weird I always forget about it

But what he did in the ball I don't think be realized the balls that it takes to do that in front of that woke crowd full of those fucking weirdos And be like the crowd was even laughing. It's not for them. He did a whole performance for the masses You don't give a fuck that did one's laughing. Did the audience not laugh? I felt like they were laughing. I mean, the real ones did. Like, Druski's there, you got a bunch of the athletes. Some of them were laughing.

You gotta love Shane. There's nothing not to love about that guy. Legendary, what he did is legendary. People are like, oh, he bombed. It was such a bad performance. The crowd was even laughing. Did they say that? Yes, certain idiots. That's hilarious.

That's adorable. And then certain ESPN. People are adorable. They're just adorable. Yeah, but like, you look at the crowd and I'm laughing. It's like, it's not for them. And he knows that the masses is what he was going for. Has the WNBA made money yet? Nope. So when they wore this, yesterday they wear those shirts that say pay us what we're worth. Okay. You owe us each $40 million. We've lost $40 million every year. So if we're going to pay, pay you for what you're worth, look it up. I want to make sure that's true.

Brian, they've never made a profit. No, they've lost money. That's what I'm saying. So when they go pay us our... So the NBA finances the WNBA. Of course. Pay us... Do they hold back money? You're asking... No, say has the WNBA ever made a profit? And the answer is no.

Pay us what we're worth. You're worth actually less than... All the owners should go, okay, you guys actually owe us money. No, WNN never generated a profit. So what do you mean pay what you're worth? You're not worth anything. You cost money. The league is heavily subsidized by the NBA with annual losses estimated to be in the tens of millions.

Yeah. So no. So when they say Paiswell was worth... Doesn't she know that, Caitlin Clark? Don't they know that? Hold on. Don't drag Caitlin Clark in this. She wasn't there. She was she didn't take part of it love her and the other woke bitches like Kelsey Plum were like

Everyone was there. We're all in solidarity, but Caitlin Clark within it wasn't represented She knows that she's she's the only probably one of the few people that's gonna generate a profit She's the only one Brian and they hate on her No, going to generate a profit. She's the only one, Brian, and they hate on her. No, I think, I could've sworn I saw her wearing a t-shirt. Did you see Shaq? She wasn't at the meeting. Like when all of them came together. But during practice or warmups?

Oh, I'm sure, they have to wear it. She's not going to not wear it, but she wasn't at the meeting, but they're all talking about it. Did you see Shaq say to RG3 on a podcast? He goes, hey, leave Angel Reese out your mouth. I'm gonna punch you in the face. I'll punch, he goes, hey RG3,

I'll punch you in the fucking face. Leave her alone. Leave that girl alone. Like that, it was fucking great. He was dead serious? He was dead serious. He goes, I'll punch you in the fucking face. Now, if Shaq says that, and he studies MMA,

you're getting your, you're getting, He studies MMA, you're getting the shit kicked out of you. You're a big fucking dude. I mean, yeah. RG3's not, he's not hearing a peep out of RG3. They're not gonna do shit. No, but if there was a situation. Yeah, RG3 be in trouble, they're not gonna do shit. No.

Shaq's not dumb enough to punch the lawsuit. But it was great, he goes, I'll punch you in the fucking face. Yeah. Said it twice. I mean, they're fighting over women's basketball. Who gives a fuck? Well, I guess he said some shit about Angel Reese and he likes Angel, he's friends with her.

Oh yeah. She went to LSU. Yeah. He loves her. Uh, it looks like Keith is here. So, all right, let's stop it. Keith Jardine. Be, let's take a little break, man.

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Strong guys don't have to wear shirts that say strong. No, the thing is dude, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. My hand speed is scary and my wrestling is, I tell you how- A lot of people comment on that online. I see a lot, I watch. A lot of chatter. How about how much?

We were laughing because Sean Apperson, who's fucking old school black belt and wrestler and great. You know, I take Jiu-Jitsu so I can teach my son. You know, he says the old school, like he says that like, you know, cause when me and Sean came up together, you know, when we were doing, he's known him too much.

You read a book about him. I read a book. You know, when me and Dan Gable were moving around, you know, he has a real grip. Hey, I went to Dan Gable's wrestling camp and I- I know you did. But I was talking about wrestling, I was doing arm drags and he goes like this,

it was the greatest thing. He looks at me and he goes like this. Throw that in. Yep, he goes like this, he goes, your wrestling is the equivalent of my high school Spanish. Not good. It was so great and it was so true because I was like, I haven't wrestled in 35 fucking years

or more than that, 40 years, it was just so funny. But you got a good base. I got nothing, but I mean in my mind I do. But then you're rolling around with those guys and you're like, oh I don't know literally anything. I speak high school Spanish when it comes to any of that stuff. I watch now online, I watch like J.J. Howland

or something like that or these guys that are putting wrestling camps on and shit. And you watch the holes they create for people where it's like, all of a sudden they're not there and the dudes on his head. And I'm just like, that's beautiful. I mean, there's a real beauty in that. There's a beauty. Are you ready to go, Chid?

We're good. Boxing is what I like watching. It was good. Good. Introduce our guest, Brian. Tate Fletcher, Keith Jardine. I mean, look. I've known these boys a lot longer than you.

You've known them a lot longer. Let me fill in, Keith, there are a couple Hollywood stars now, but real quick I want to show my shit and we'll get to that no I want to I want to Yeah, Keith reads more than you know I know this is more like you are but take that so take They you got a couple of tough guys in jail When when the shot callers come to your cell to tell you how it goes you're holding their pocket It's it's Keith and it's Tate. So you're going to do what they want.

You're going to clean their clothes. If you got to wear a wig, you're going to wear a wig. Yes. You understand? There's a whole thing. The boys are full. The boys are going to, look, the boys are running this roost. Yes.

And a guy like me is going to do exactly as he's told or we're going to have a little problem, right? Your shirt says strong. My shirt says strong. What I like about, this is Mark Bell's shirt actually, I just realized that they sent me some stuff. But Keith and I were, we took the same plane and then we had a long talk.

And you had always told me that Keith is a warrior nerd. Smart. Warrior. You won't find Keith in the, he'll be in the gym. But you said you'd find him with his nose in a book in a coffee shop. Coffee shop. And I was like very intrigued by that.

Yeah, I thought you'd like that. And then you and I had a very deep conversation about coffee. So he's a real gourmand. He's a man who likes the final things. Tate has always been that other thing. Way more interested in hanging out with artists and actors than tough guys.

Tough guy, big strong guy, beard, covered in tattoos. At the end of the day, way more an artist. That's why you get along with them. Yeah, yeah. This is amazing to hear what you are from somebody else. This is very true though. You've always been way more sensitive, way more interested in talking about meditation or art

than you are about jujitsu or fucking fighting, even though you can step that up too. And that's- Or put them together. Or put them together. You know why? It's a defense mechanism. Yeah.

Correct. You ever try to talk to, you talk to somebody that doesn't know anything about comedy, and they're gonna tell you what they know about comedy, how hard is that? Yeah. Right? To talk to a guy about fighting

that doesn't really know much about fighting but knows that he knows a lot about fighting. That's the fire in the kit. That's a tough girl. Yeah, that's my life. Hey, hey, hey. Whoa, we established that I. 13 years.

We established that I train. My favorite thing ever with Keith early on when I found this out is like a hack because you'd see him at Starbucks after training or whatever and go get a coffee. Because on Central, when I had to drive up to Santa Fe and he'd be there and he'd have us in a book and he feels when somebody's watching and then I'm like, Hey, can I get a, can I get a picture?

And just watch him crumble and then not be so happy. You were on the plane. There was a whole hollow balloon about you. They're all like, there's guys, a UFC fighter. He's a champion UFC fighter. He's not hard to miss. Yeah. It's really cool to come from that era because

like we still get that all the time. We get that here in Austin. Yeah. It's like that era, right. Where people were really recognizable. They had fights. It was a different time, right? It's a different, now it's like, you know, I

fall out for a living. It's I look at some of the undercard main cards. I'm like, fuck, I barely, and I'm balls deep in them. I barely know these cats. Yeah. There's like stars, you know? And now you got to do so much to get recognized, you know?

You're now on a tour. You're now a filmmaker. Director, actor. Director, writer, actor. Yeah. But you guys always pop up, like my favorite show I've seen in a hot second is that, writer, actor. Yeah. But you guys always pop up like my favorite show I've seen in a hot second is that, um, was it American Primeval?

Oh yeah, that was dope. Yeah. My favorite. Oh yeah. Yeah, you popped up in it. Great season. Yeah. Yeah, that was really cool.

And that was done by the same guy that did the Revenant. Yes. Not the director, but the writer or creator of it, uh, and that darkness of it. I love the way that was filmed. Oh, it was so well done. And all that. It was so fucking, it was one of the best, have love the way that was filmed. The color of it and all that. It was so fucking, it was one of the best,

have you seen it yet? It's so fucking good. But you guys always pop up in things and then do you have to audition for that? How are you boys doing it now? I got some stuff coming up. Like kind of just breaking that next level right now. I got a Yoram and Takomi movie coming up.

Kill Me, that's my movie, Kill Me Again again over your dead body where I'm a lead in it with Jason Seagal and Juliette Lewis I know that we did in Finland Timothy all the fun. He's I was blown. I knew he's good actor. He's in the comedy range, right? Yeah, I was really blown away, but how good you ever see him like just sit down piano and start I did how I met your mother with that guy. Yeah, I called him the I called T to the piano and started singing songs. I did How I Met Your Mother with that guy. I called him TG, the talented giant. That motherfucker could just sit at a piano, six, four, easily, and just fuck and sit at the piano,

and start playing. I'm like, what are you doing? He goes, I'm writing a movie, it's a movie, and I'm trying to, I was like, I suck. I suck. I'm sure for you guys, because the look you have, it's hard to break that kind of style. Like they're like,

oh, we're going to catch you as the goons, that you know, the scary guys in the back. That's why I got into writing, because like, I don't mind being the goon, but I want to be an interesting goon, right? Yeah. So that's how I got into writing.

So tell me about this movie. Kill Me Again. Yeah, it looks wild. Yeah, man, it's like Groundhog's Day, but Bill Murray is a serial killer, basically. Yeah. Let me give you the background. Yeah man, it's like Groundhog's day, but Bill Murray's a serial killer basically. Yeah. Let me give you the background. Yeah.

2019 or something like that, maybe a little before, Keith starts writing voraciously as if he's gonna fight for a championship belt, right? Like eight hours a day in the coffee shop, from eight to eight all the time, takes a half hour off to go do pushups in the parking lot, comes back in and writes more. And he's just at his computer with a bunch of blue haired,

you know, every college student you can imagine, right? And then him. And that's what his life's been for the last six or seven years. And if you want to meet him, you know right to what coffee shop. Anyway, he's got five, six scripts and you start reading like, and beautiful one, one made me cry.

Like it's like, it's insane. Like it's really beautiful. You can't wait to get through it and all that. And we have all these, these scripts that are together that we want to create a shows about, and then the, all the strikes start happening. So everybody's out of work. And then all the strikes start happening. So everybody's out of work. And then Keith is like, well, we have a window

where everybody's out of work, and we got a lot of goodwill with grips and electricians and sound people and DPs, and they need a job. And so we can bring in great people at a lower rate that'll be our low budget film. And then he writes a script based on that idea, goes where can we do it cheap in this spot? And he puts a god damn script together in weeks

to film a month or two months later. And that's the background of what this is. That's how good his writing got to where I can specifically shoot at this fucking mark that's very precise and I can make it work. I want to say that's how good it got because writing's a crap shit. You guys, you know, it's like,

like I've been working on scripts for years now and some script, this one just fucking came together. I wrote the beginning and the end in August and I started raising money. I knew I had a good fucking movie. I can't believe this hasn't been done before. This is great. And it's just flowing out.

The character's amazing and all that. And I wrote the beginning of the, I got a van beyond July, I wrote the beginning and end in August. And then I was just raising money, hiring people, hiring crew just, we're going to go in November. How hard is that to raise money? Is it a beast? Especially for me to come out to somebody.

That's what I'm saying because it's not like, you know, it's Leonardo DiCaprio where it's an easy sell, yeah? Well, that's the thing is we don't have a big actor in it. We have an amazing world class. We have a great actor, but he's not well known. Like he's not A-list, but yeah, to go out to people. Like I had my short that did really well, you know, I won best actor in and best director.

It was a four time Academy qualifying festival, so it did really well. And that led me to do that be able to do this and so I had a calling card like I did this it was successful and just like and just approach people like you said to hold your hat out like that's so hard for me to do man I got this I can't imagine and then oh I can't imagine but then then you do it you know like some people make you jump through fucking hoops and it's not like me I'm gonna jump I'm gonna be a monkey for you whatever it takes because it's for my me. I'm going to jump. I'm going to be a monkey for you. Whatever it takes. Because it's for my art, right?

Yeah, you're not going to stop till you get it. Yeah, yeah. But Darren Wyatt was the main guy that came through for me. He's my partner. He's always my partner because he's the one that I didn't have the money. Fuck, talk about stress, man. I didn't have SAG approval to get the waiver. I didn't have the money. I got all these people. We're doing fucking Zoom meetings together, meetings. I got all this

whole building. It's such an act of faith. Building the product, the site, the locations, everything, man, and then wardrobe, and then now we're weekend. I tell Darren, Darren, these guys can't know I don't got the money yet. Yeah. Like we're shooting in a week and a half,

and I'm not sleeping, man. What kind of budget are we talking, what kind of money do you need to raise? Um, this one's under two. Um, still a lot of money. 200 or two million. It's actually, actually I don't like it. It's a lot of money.

It's, it's a lot less than that. But it's a lot to create a movie. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're asking people to roll dice and all the favors and people rolling dice for, for points on the movie and all that. So forget all that, because that's always impossible. That's fucking impossible.

You wrote Ground Hard Day about it basically with a serial killer, which is a great premise. Hilarious. It looks almost like a black comedy. It's very funny, it's very dark. It's twisted, man, it's twisted. Like I beat the fuck out of this guy, man, it's twisted. And what I do, and I was inspired by a lot of True Crime like before this, we're all infatuated by serial killers.

I love it, I can't get enough of it. And we kind of make heroes out of them, and we kind of make celebrities out of them, and we kind of root for them. And I make you do this in the movie, and you do this, man, he's a really, really bad guy. I establish it right away, like this guy's, this guy's, this guy's. Yeah.

And then we ended up rooting for him and liking him. That's what, that's what sounds the lambs did so well. When that came out, it was the first time you had a monster that was also polite and cultured. And when she said he wouldn't need me, it would be impolite. Yeah. You know, we all just went, fuck, what a, it was such, it was so genius. Cause they opened the movie with him saying, you were so polite and then you jumped the vulgarity to now get to the point.

We were having a conversation. Yeah. I listened to great music. I play chess. I'm a culture defeat. I'm a man who, you know, is, knows the meaningful difference between the finer things in life.

And you now want me to fill out a questionnaire? A questionnaire, because you can gather, you can get my psyche with a question. Why? Has this always been the plan, like when you were in the UFC, because I didn't know, I didn't know you guys were into acting and all that.

I wanted to be an actor for sure, I wanted to be an actor before, I didn't know what that meant, UFC led to that to be an actor for sure. I wanted to be an actor before. I didn't know what that meant. UFC led to that. And then I was an actor for a while doing shit. And then spent all my money going to LA for auditions and trying to make it work. And then stunt saved my life.

I did some really big stunt jobs. And still until recently stunt saves my life because it's the only thing that really pays, right? Until I got into Paul Thomas Anderson film and that was huge for me. And then- He talented. Oh, you know that is be no he did magnolia he did uh there will be blood. Oh wow. He did uh I mean what else has he done he's he's he's got a movie coming out that's fucking amazing with the cabrio. He's one of the greatest directors I think any director. He's our Kurosawa. Yeah.

I mean, any director will tell you he's like just on a whole another level. Let me see all the movies he's done. He's, get them under your belt. That's inherent vice right there that I did. Phantom Thread, oh my God. Yeah, he's just phenomenal. Magnolia with Tom Cruise, that scene with his, yeah. Forget it.

Yeah. Forget it. What else? Chin, I can't see that. Can you like? We can't see it. Can you like, can you read those off? You got to zoom in to the Chris pizza. Phantom thread, inherit vice. Yeah.

Inherit vice and master. There will be blood. That's huge. Right. Yeah. There will be blood. It's complex. Punch drunk love.

Magnolia love is great. With him. Yeah. Boogie nights. Boogie nights. I love Boogie nights. I love And the Dirk Diggler story, they're gonna remake boogie nights with McGregor He did you know he did Roadhouse so to make sound like that tracks. I thought he was great. People hating on him.

I'm like, Matt, fighter, never done it. He was good. Biggest paid movie hit for somebody going from sports into film. Really? Was McGregor's paycheck for that, I guess. You gotta take that shit serious on. To your question is what I did is when I was,

when I started hitting the good movies and then I started building that up is I realized that this business is way more fucking competitive than fighting. But you have the work ethic to handle all of it. But it doesn't matter if you don't create. If I'm not working every day, then everybody else is working.

They fucking had college, they went to film school, they went to theater and all that. I need to catch up. It's gonna be tough. I need to put, I went to film school, they went to theater and all that. Like I need to catch up. I need to put, like I'm doing MMA practice, I need to practice every fucking day. That's why I'm saying the work ethic to get to the level you're at in UFC, you put that over to whatever field you're in, and it's gonna work.

It's a different muscle, isn't it? Being an artist and being an actor is a different muscle. But the work ethic's the same. Because a fighter, you win, you move up. You win, you move up. They can't ignore you if you keep winning. They can't ignore the fuck out of you here. Yeah, no matter how good you are.

If you don't get the light, it doesn't matter. I feel like it's testimony too to the idea about just driving forward regardless. Because there's going to be people that don't want you to win. Or there's going to be people that aren't going to help you. Whatever that is all the time. It's tough to break through. But if you continue to put stuff out and you go,

I wanna demand agency, I wanna be able to, you can make your own thing happen and then you are that undeniable support. But the thing is, is if you would've gotten a bunch of really good acting pieces, you wouldn't be writing until way later because it's like, that would satisfy that a little bit. But I think really the real craving is to be in creation.

And the other things are slow substitutes for that. Right? And that substitute though wears out and then you're like, the thing I'm doing is not that I would have craved to do years ago. I'm done doing, and that's what happens. And this was like a fast track to that. And I feel like acting, sorry brother,

I feel like acting similar to fighting where it's scary because there's no blueprint, right? So like fighting, you're like, I hope it works out. It's not like you're working a nine to five job and you have a 401k and you know where your next meal's coming from. You're like, yeah, I'm a leap of faith. A thousand percent. And that's why stunt jobs help me out.

And I look toward what you do, man. Like you got your foot, like you're still acting, doing amazing shit. You're doing this. Like, it's not like, I'm not sitting by the phone waiting for the phone to ring. Like you got to make sure, you got to create. You're always doing stuff. Uh, you guys would like this. I do, uh, every, every two weeks in Austin.

Now I do a show called acting off and I have comics and I'd love to have you guys come just be guests. And we basically, I give you an acting prompt and we have like five people on stage and you have to one up each other so it'll just be something we start really easy, it's like you know how every movie has no, like you know it's like I am your father, no. And let's see how well you do that, let's see how well

you die from a gunshot, so let's see if you can like, how do you take a, how do you die? And you'd be amazed how many people don't know how to do stuff like that, right? And it's- You do that at Red Bands, right? Yeah, at Red Bands. It's on-

These guys are comedians. Yes, and it's fucking, how well do you laugh like a villain? Tommy Pope is a monster. We had Ari Amati, this kid Peyton. So some real talent out there. How was Ari? Amazing. When you give people a prompt, he's incredible.

And when you give people a prompt, some people just don't know how to do it, right? Other people take to it like that, then you can direct them. So it's like this great competition. Then I have them redo famous scenes, right? I have them redo like the scene from the Titanic. Let's see, I'll make a man play the Kate Winslet role

when she's on the door and he's freezing. How well do you play cold? Can you break hearts? You'd be amazed how many people can't do that. And so we do that, yeah. Then we're gonna have, I'm gonna have a camera on you. It's gonna be a huge screen. We'll see how well you do close up face acting.

So I'm gonna go convey, convey lust. You have to be, you know, convey fear. You know, let's see how well you did. Then we're gonna have like, we're gonna have old movies, like an old kung fu movie, and it's gonna be in another language, and I'm gonna give you a mic and I'll have a mic, and then we have to just dub what we think they're saying.

This is great. It's gonna be great. It's great, so that's my new live show on Austin. I love you guys being on. I wanna be there. 100%. I'd love to have you guys on. When you guys go on set,

I assume most people are aware of your background. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that helps. And what you said about fighting too, and like what you said there, what was a big breakthrough for me is like, when you come, especially as a fighter, when you come into acting,

you wanna be contrived in everything you do. I'm gonna do this this because this looks cool. I'm going to be Clint Eastwood in this scene. Yeah. But just learning how to be vulnerable. Yeah. Like when you- Well, for you, you know, for both you guys,

the way I would direct you, if you were villains, you guys are tough guys. Just be straight. Not even straight. I would have you take care of me. Yeah. You're terrifying. So I would, I would, uh, I would fix, you know, I

would, I mean, just to have a guy like you kind of take a look at that. I have some lint on my shoulder, clean me up a little bit. Just get some stuff that you are right. What's going on? You know, you were saying, you were saying to that and that's huge.

That's the, I mean, you know, it's so easy when you're saying the opposite on the face acting, it's like all of those a hundred percent are going to be overdone. Right. Yeah. Look surprised the face acting, it's like all of those 100% are gonna be overdone, right? Look surprised, and it's gonna be like, okay, settle down, you know? But this thing about like, oh, your past precedes you,

and it helps, there's a thing where it's like, you've done a thing before, and cool, but that thing fucking dictates you, man. And so however you come into the thing is like, can I, because it's not just like, can I express myself in a different way? Can I blow the shell off of what you think I am to become a different thing?

And it takes a long time. And it takes a long time and it takes opportunity. It wasn't until I was just on set for this next season of Gen V coming up. and there's comedic parts and all that and this guy afterwards is just, I mean, to get acknowledgement like that about like, fuck, your timing is incredible. But you don't get an opportunity to do that

with consequence where it's gonna matter to other producers are gonna see it until something like that unless you make your own thing. See, I would cast you as a therapist. I would love to see you play a therapist. That's so much more interesting to me. I'm loving you making a movie that you're gonna direct us in.

Yes, I was. I mean, Jesus Christ. Now I know why we came here. That's it. I had an acting teacher one time. I came in to do a scene. And I had to do, it was Long Day's Journey into Night. And the role, I believe it's Jamie.

If you're not drunk, you can't do the scene. So I come in and I'm drunk. And the teacher, Jeffrey Tambor, who's a, he's Emmy award winning, he's phenomenal. He was in Transparent, right? Yes, and Jeffrey's done everything from And Justice for All, he's one of the great actors. One of the great actors.

And so you're actually drunk or you're playing drunk? I'm playing drunk. And he said, I have to stop you. And I was like, interesting. I've never seen anything like this. Very bizarre. I was like, what do you mean? And he said, I mean, you're, you're a drunk and you're trying to fall down. Drunks try to stand up. And I went, fuck.

You know, when you come in and you die, when you get shot. What a cool cue. Right, when you die. You're not trying to cry. You're trying to not cry. You don't die. You don't die.

When you get shot, you don't die. You don't die. You don't die. You don't die. You don't die. You know, when you come in and you die, when you get shot. You don't. Right, when you die. You're not trying to cry, you're trying to not cry. You don't die. You don't die. When you get shot or you get stabbed, you're trying to live.

You know, you're struggling. And when you have, you know, when people come in, somebody has an illness, you ever meet somebody in real life who has an illness? They don't, they're not coming in going, I'm, No, they're most ashamed of it. They are protecting you. They're treating it like it's an inconvenience.

What breaks your heart is when you know they have two weeks to live and they're treating it like an inconvenience. My buddy did that. He had too much pride to let you know that he was going to die. So he, he didn't let us know. He didn't let us know.

He told me everything. I have a text, he died two weeks later. He said the text saying, I'm just, I'm just busy, bro. I'm just, you know, I'm just decompressing, have a text, he died two weeks later, he had a text saying, I'm just busy bro, I'm just decompressing, not from you, we're gonna have a great summer. He knew he was dying. That's what real people do, and when you see a great actor do that,

that's why Philip Seymour Hoffman was so fucking good. God, remember him in Boogie Nights with Mark Wahlberg, he was so attracted to him, and the way he was doing it, he was trying to keep it calm. Yes, he's trying to like, he's trying to get it. He's trying to hold it together. And he keeps his eyes keep going. He keeps looking at him like, you know, he's nervous.

Yeah. Yeah. Back to those stereotypes, like when I first started Stand Up Comedy, I remember it used to hurt my feelings so bad because everyone knows me as this one thing. I'm like, yes, I did that, but I'm trying stand up comedy. I used to hurt my feelings so bad because everyone knows me as this one thing. I'm like, yes, I did that, but I'm trying to do this. I'd be in the middle of my set and people would shout out,

break down UFC. I'm like, come on, man. You just hurt my feelings so bad for a long time. I mean. You took direction very well, you know. But you're talking years. I dealt with that for like five or six years. It wasn't until like the latter of my career,

like the last four years, where finally people stopped doing that. You're like, no man, but then I was like, I get it. Yeah, it's not that they're shaming me. They're just, you know. That's what they know. I know. It's nothing personal.

And it's probably complimentary from where they're coming from. Yes. I mean, it's not, but it's like from where they're coming from it is. You know, the cool thing about watching you do that and transcend all that stuff is that you were a

You're an eager student that oh, you know what I mean to watch you in in that role of like watching Brian and watching Joe And like you're a must be in a real fucking student I got put in the deep end cool And then it was a blessing and a curse because I had Brian as my mentor and then Rogan So you know to the greats and then forcing you and going, go ahead and swim. Now it was like throwing a puppy in the water. But it was also a blessing and a curse because the,

the curse is people knew who I am. I can't go to an open mic and just work on my craft because they're ex because I'm hanging out with Brian Rogan and Joey Diaz and Bill Burr and Theo and Chris D'Alia, they expect me to be the same as them. It's like, those are my group of friends, but I'm not them. It's like them expecting Brian to be good at fighting because he hangs out with me and Keith.

So I never got that kind of grace. So that's why I worked so hard and took the UFC approach to it where I was like, all right, how many sets are you doing? Four? I'm going to do six. It was always that thing, like, I'm gonna do more than these guys, so hopefully I can make up my 10,000 hours half of what usually people do. That's what we're all trying to do

and the whole new accountable, because if you're not doing the art justice, then they're gonna shit on you. You're a fraud, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Let's take a little break, B, because this episode of the Firing Kid with Keith Jardine and our boy Tate Fletcher is brought to you by

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Bring the action with you and stream for free from all your favorite devices. Pluto TV stream now pay never. Well, with acting, just remember everybody needs a director. I don't give a fuck who you are. Oh, fuck. Yeah.

Meryl Streep. It doesn't matter. You need a director. Every fighter needs a coach. Yeah. You can't see what you're doing. And I directed myself in my first. You need a director. Oh yeah. I, Meryl Streep, it doesn't matter. You need a director. Every fighter needs a coach. Yeah. It doesn't matter. You can't see what you're doing. And I directed myself in my first short. You need a director.

You need, that's why whenever I tell people and they go and they have auditions, I'm like, listen, motherfucker, you should be working with someone like me. You work on an audition with me. I ask him, you know, I promise I will get you there, but if you think you can just go and read lines, fuck off.

You can't. You're also, you're not respecting. Yeah, I can help you. You're not going to be able to compete. Find somebody like me who just really studied it. Yeah. I can help you. I can, I can, it doesn't matter. I'm sure you're just as good as anybody, but you need

someone, you need someone to kind of give you, you're too close to it. Yeah. To give you that own, when you walk in a room, you have to do the unorthodox choice and you have to come with a character. Cause the problem is if you don't come with room, you have to do the unorthodox choice. And you have to come with a character. Because the problem is, if you don't come with, see, the writer has something in mind.

When you come in there, like with the hangover, he wrote it as a New York guy. I said to the director, I said, if he owns a wedding chapel in Vegas, he should be from Armenia, he should be from Lebanon, the guy who can get you anything. I make very good price for you. That's dope.

And then they love, he started laughing immediately. So funny. Right? So your idea better be better than what the writer's original idea was. Yeah, you want to surprise the writer. It ain't gonna be what his is, that's a one in a million. Yes, but when you solve that problem for the writer

and the director, they want to be surprised. It's also refreshing, right? Yes. Because everyone else is doing the same thing. Yes, when you get in there and you do something they don't expect, my friend got a huge part It's also refreshing, right? Yes. Because everyone else is doing the same thing. Yes. When you get in there and you do something they don't expect, my friend got a huge part because of the way she listened. There was this scene and she was going, oh, oh, you know, and they were like, that's fucking,

you know, the best part I ever got one time that they said, well, you're not good for the part because the guy's supposed to be six foot four, 235 pounds. And I said, yeah, I am. And they said, what do you mean? I go, tell them that I think I'm six foot four, 235. That's what I think of myself. When I walk in a room, I walk in like I'm six foot four, 235. That's why I feel comfortable around you monsters.

Because I'm, and I'm going to talk trash. That, and that's what, and so when somebody my size comes in and they're acting like that. It's fucking hilarious Because it's different. It's like this guy's look at this guy, you know It's like don't if you're if you're five four and dark haired walk in and behave as though you're a Viking now I'm interested. That's what Al Pacino was so good at Al Pacino when he did a play called does a tiger wear a necktie and the roll call for somebody six four and blonde and Al Pacino all four feet fucking tall about Pacino walked in and got the part because he played that

motherfucker. When, when, when, uh, when fucking Morgan Freeman, one of his first big roles, when he played, he had to play a pimp and a dangerous motherfucker. And he walked up to the casting director and all he did was take a strand of her hair and he took it from her shoulder and put it behind her because it looked better. And he talked real slow.

And they said, damn, you've done this before. Like for real, he hadn't, but he understood. Or maybe he had. Certainly in his imagination he had. Or maybe he. Or maybe he had, certainly in his imagination he had. Yeah. You know, or like a hit man. I got a big part one time because I was, I couldn't figure out how to play this hit man, you know, I was thinking about.

Then I thought to myself, okay, I'm going to try something. So I went and I did the role, right? And he goes, you're not right for the part, but what the fuck were you doing there? And he ended up giving me a part later for his next TV show, but he goes, what the fuck were you doing there? You know what I did?

I said to him, I said, I think if you're playing a hit man, you have a very precarious relationship with life and death. I mean, I don't think you can take a lot of human lives and just walk away from that. So I think that you're always a nose hair away from turning the gun on yourself. This time around, maybe you're not going to kill that person. I think I might kill myself. There's that idea, right? That idea that sort of, I can't, and when you play that, when you're going to, when you might do that instead of kill the person, it's fucking interesting because it creates tension. Do you guys feel any responsibility? Cause there's a lot of, it is what it is. Every fighter wants to be a movie star, right? Or a rock star. Like there's that similar path.

So you'll see guys like Connor got into it. Cyril gone Woodley's been doing it. So guys are kind of leaking over, but you guys were the first kind of like podcasting. I was the first one ever to do it as an athlete. So when I see guys doing it, I'll usually reach out and like, here's some things that I did wrong. This is what you should do, man. We need to talk.

Cause we got our podcast. We just started, but yeah, absolutely. I see those guys and, and that's the thing. Are they going to be, are got our podcast we just started. But yeah, absolutely, I see those guys. And that's the thing, are they going to be, are what is due because you might come in and do a role a little bit because you're somebody, but they're going to forget about you really damn quick. They don't care about what you're doing at UFC.

I had to separate myself from that. I turned down roles that had anything to do with the UFC just because I lost roles right away because, oh yeah, like, well, it's good, his audition as auditions good but like this is we need a real actor for this this is a real yeah you know and just to separate yourself from that to make yourself in this new venture like you got to really put your work in like if I yes if I get a role and I didn't read for it like I'm still using my coaches and all that to get I'm gonna count I'm gonna do the lines and all

that and just cuz I get that direction from the coach and it might be something Completely different on the day, but I had that direction I'm finally I'm finding the holes in the script and the problems and all that and I'm finding answers So on the day when the director and they went like oh, yeah, but this isn't comedic this I want this to be like serious You're gonna kill this motherfucker Okay, well, I can go this way really easy because I've already done the work on the thing. Like just give it like.

Can you guys remember a movie? Was there a seminal movie that got you interested in this whole business? Oh, go ahead. I used to watch Robin Williams and just be marveled. I was marveled at his standup when he was doing cocaine. I mean, it was incredible, right? It was like a runaway train. Yeah. And, um, and seeing that and then seeing him in

like hook or something like that. And I was like, there's something about seeing the breadth of a man and going, wow, he's here and he's here. And, and, and then there's this idea about, you know, I had a crazy imagination as a little kid too, about playing all the characters that occur in life, you know, I love this idea.

Like, like Einstein's got a great quote where he says the all the characters that occur in life, you know? I love this idea, like Einstein's got a great quote where he says the delusion of mankind is that there's more than one of us, right? And in this idea is that like, we're all living every life, right? And what's a place there you can be where you can do that is like in story,

is in this mythology of cinema that we have in this way. And I was always fascinated by that, but it was always like an impossibility. Everything in my life, it just was like, that's an impossibility. That's that for me, I see other people, and then you get, I mean, these things unfold in this crazy, crazy way, and I go,

fuck, if I'm gonna be dead anyway, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna put everything I have into the try. And that kind of is, when I started to have some belief in myself, I guess. And that wasn't until like in my mid twenties. Any actors? Because I believed I was on a certain road. Any actors that spoke to you? I loved Johnny Depp. Watching his career all through.

I loved watching, the guy that is really great I think is Iron Man, right? You see Robert Downey Jr. in Chaplin. You see Chaplin? Yeah, he's great. Holy Christ. You know, you see performances like that. And Charlie Chaplin, I used to go to, my mom was an artist and she would go and she worked at the museum in our town.

And in the basement of the museum, they would show Buster and Charlie Chaplin movies all the time. And I would watch those guys and I'd just be like, I was just entranced with that world. I thought that was amazing. Yeah, yeah. Benicio Del Toro, the way he does so much without doing anything.

And on the other side, I like actors like Joaquin and Juliette Lewis that just fucking go for it, man. And just so vulnerable, like I don't care what- Juliette Lewis is something else. I just met her in the airport. She came up to me and started- Yeah, she came up to me and just like, you know, so nice. And I was like, damn.

Yeah, she's the best. We were buds on this show, man. That's cool. You were on what? We were on the show with them just now. And it was great, man. She's so talented, man. Maybe it's because I come from the same color cloth, but like whenever I see a former UFC

fighter attempting something else, I'm like, good luck. Meaning like, he's not going to stop, man. If it's a guy that has been in the UFC a while and he has a work ethic, I'm like, I'm telling you, you guys make fun of these guys, but just wait. They're not going to stop. And if his mind's right. If their mind's right and they're actually passionate about it. And if their minds right. If their minds right and they're actually passionate about it, good luck competing with them.

Good luck, whatever it is, Woodley and music, this guy doing this, you know, whatever it is. Podcasts. And I see him getting started. I'm like, good luck, man. These guys are going to be monsters. You guys make fun of them now. See that with a lot of football players.

They learn how to podcast. They go all in. They do, but the, because it's, they start for the wrong reasons. Like you'll see guys that start podcasts and they'll be number one, number two for a few weeks, few months. And then then all of a sudden it's like, what happened? Or even UFC fighters like, they don't do the podcast anymore? No, because they start for the wrong reasons. I'm going to do it because I see people making money. It's like, buddy, that takes so long to get the lights go off. And when the lights go off on your career

It's fucking cold and if people are just looking to get warm by lights and they're like there's another thing where there's lights over there I want attention and they go and and if that's if that's the thing well fuck that's not sustainable And that's kind of the trap too And I do have a story about this that we'll be doing pretty soon on which led to kill me again Like this is the one that made me cry. It's called Killer Jack. The studios covered it and they like to do it, but who's gonna direct it, right,

and who's gonna do it? Because it's clearly not gonna be me. So that's why I went and rushed this one in so I could have something under my belt that, okay, I can do this. When is that coming out? When can I see this movie? Well, this Kill Me Again is on August 8th,

and it's in theaters August 8th you can get it wherever you rent stuff Apple, Amazon all that. Yeah. That's great man. We're doing a premiere on the 31st in LA yeah and then on the 6th in New York and then on the 8th it'll be out on all streamers. That's so cool man. Are you from Canada originally? No Michigan but on all streamers. That's so cool, man. Are you from Canada originally? No, Michigan, but even in Michigan. Are you from Canada?

There you go. From Michigan. Do you guys still keep up with UFC or no? Like I do a lot of stuff with Rampage and he just, he keeps up with a little bit now, but not really. I'm like, Kim, I'm doing more and more though. I like the story of the Russians guys. I just did Rampage's podcast.

It was great, man. Jackson? Yeah. Yeah, that's where I just was. Those are my guys. Oh cool man. I was so cool man. Just because I had an opportunity just to talk to rampage was always a hero. Mine. I fought him. It's one of my, it is my probably my favorite fight. I didn't even win that fight. Yeah. Great fight though. Yeah. But it was cool just to like, like learn more about him and sit on his podcast. Such a good dude. Yeah. And I had him on forever and I'd always tell him you got, because he's such

a personality, you know, this, I kept telling him, you gotta start a podcast. And I had him on forever and I'd always tell him you got, because he's such a personality. You know this, I kept telling him, you got to start a podcast. And I don't recommend that for a lot of people, but every time I see Rampage, you got to start a podcast. And finally Bear with Jackson was like, yeah, he's the guy, man. I love the way he talks to his son. It makes me laugh so hard. Just in his son's face.

They're crushing it. Oh, great. His son plays it so well. His son is such a straight man. His son just like doesn't move and stuff. R His son is such a straight man. His son's just like, doesn't move and stuff. Yeah. Rampage is such a character, such a character. Yeah.

Yeah. Talented. He's a good guy, man, at the end of the day. Great guy. And smart, like a fox. Funny. Yeah. Funny.

I think watching UFC has been like, you know, you're out of it. So you watch your friends that are still fighting and then your friends aren't fighting anymore. It was great to watch Max. You age out enough and then you're aren't fighting anymore. It was great to watch Max. You age out enough and then you're like, kind of dead for a while. And then it comes back

and you're like, oh, fuck, we watched it the other night and I was like, oh, that was fucking amazing. Forget why. That was great. That was great. For a long time, especially once I got into comedy and podcast when I retired, I really kind of shied away from the fighting. I was almost

embarrassed of it. 100%. Because I wasn't world champion. Like I was in Cain Velasquez. I wasn't Steve A. So I was embarrassed. So when people would bring it up, I kind of shut down or not engage. And then once I had kids, I started talking to them about it. And I started going through things that I'm like, Oh, it's pretty bad ass. It's so funny. You were, weren't you? We have the same. Isn't it crazy how you can do fucking, just catastrophically marvelous things that nobody else can do?

And you're like, ah, fuck. Dude, that's so interesting. That's the first time I've ever thought of that. Think about it. Because I never, I never understood why you would shut down. I tried as hard as I could, but it wasn't in the right way that I had the result.

And so I'm not happy. So he felt like a failure. All of us were like, holy fuck. I was there too, man. When I first, when I walked out of the ring, man, it was like, I'm the most depressed I've ever been in my life. I'm going to do what, what am I going to do now?

And like, I'm a failure. Like, cause I know you and I know how good you were and you knew you could have been champion. I knew that about myself too. I knew I could have been champion. I didn't do it. You didn't do it. And I lost a big fight.

It's one of the fights I was supposed to. See, for us, for us we go, for us we go, that guy got in a cage. I know. For us we go, guy got in a cage. I know. For us we go, he got in a cage, but they locked the cage and fought with the dudes. But then years later, then it became a point where like I couldn't even watch the UFC. And then it became like, all right, well, that was pretty cool what I did. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. And then when you go back through it and especially seeing it through the lens of my kids, like they're like, what the, this is crazy. I'm like, it is crazy. You know, or like with football, same thing with football, because I wasn't Tony Gonzalez, I felt like a failure. So as soon as I got on with football,

at least I had fighting to get into, but I felt like a failure in football, felt like a failure in the UFC, so I went talking about any of that stuff, went full dive in and comedy, but then once I had kids, and then then talking like the baseball dead and stuff like that They'd like oh my god, dude, and they go through like some of my fights. I'm like, yeah, you know what? That was pretty fucking cool You know what? I also recognize in you

I meant when I first met you I was telling Tate was that at a convention and and you were like I'm running us around I was doing an appearance or something like. And you were just doing this job that I can tell like in your eyes that, that like there's something more in your life that you're not doing. Like there's something that you wanted and all that. And I could see that in you. And then when I saw you open Denver is like, it just made perfectly good sense that you're doing the fighting and all that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a weird thing. It's a weird thing. But now, yeah, now it's a different animal. Now I can sit back and reflect. Like my wife would get after my fights, even when we were just girlfriend, boyfriend, she would always like after my fights, get these crazy

paintings, like pictures. And I'm like, don't put those up. Don't put them up. So we had like these amazing pieces forever. And then we moved the house in Austin. She's like, you think it's cool? I go, fuck yeah. Put them up in the office, man.

So my kids go in there as soon as their friends go in, we're like, let's take you to the room. And they're like, that's my dad there. That's my dad there. Yeah. We're the same. Do I got these posters in the fucking attic that I just brought down because it burned down.

Yeah. Maybe, maybe I'll put them up. Right. Yeah. My wife has a box. My dad's center. I didn't even know. It's all like my actual fight worn gloves.

There's like blood on it. The poster's all signed. And my wife got them out. I guess she was like, what do you want to do with these? I'm like, frame them, put them up, man. This is awesome. It represents real effort. Like I think when you get to that point, you forget how hard you worked.

You forget what you did to get there. You can say what you want. You lost, okay. It's like Mark Sanchez was talking about. He would like, it was everything he could and they'd, he'd get a 500 season and they'd be like, that guy sucks. And he was like, do you know what it took for me to win just 50% of these games with like how much, so whenever, like we all fall short of the mark, we

all fall short of the mark, but when you work that hard, you forget like the amount of practice and the courage. I think I wasn't too worried about like what the fan base or what people I didn't know said it was more of my own embarrassment. I've been like, I tried so hard, didn't become world champ. So inside you're like, no, part of that is a humility. Part of that is like, I'm not impressed with myself. That's where wisdom comes from.

Right. Experience. So you're like, this is just the thing I'm not impressed with myself. It's where wisdom comes from. It's where wisdom comes from. Right? Experience. So you're like, this is just the thing I'm doing. And the thing is to be a champion and you're not. And so it's like, anything less than that is like, well, it was just the thing I was doing. And then you move on. And then in retrospect, you're like,

that was fucking a phenomenal choice you made in a turn in your life, you know? But it's not until the rear view mirror. I think wisdom comes from coming to terms with your own limitations, but also the fact that you tried really hard at something and for a thousand reasons it didn't happen, but then you start to realize that wasn't the point. You get a lot out of not hitting the mark.

But also when you say didn't happen, when I was, my son's age, when I was nine, if someone said, all right, here's how it's going to go, dude. You're going to go to a university in Colorado, you're going to get a scholarship to play football. They're going to get a shot with the Buffalo Bills. Pretty cool, you're not going to make the team, but you at least get a shot, man. So you're going to experience it. And then you're going to go to the UFC,

and you're going to be ranked in the top 10, fight on pay-per-views, all your fights are going to be televised. I'd be like, what the fuck? Oh, yeah, well dude, I won. Knockout crow cop, I'm a legend. It's like you won, but then when you're in it, you're like, oh man. And I can sense it in you, and that's Knock out Crow Cop, I'm a legend. It's like you won, but then when you're in it, you're like, oh man.

And I can sense in you, and that's what we got too, is like the don't let your memories become larger than your dreams, right? And when you're done, I didn't peak in 2007 when I fought Chuck Liddell, right? I didn't peak when I fought Crow Cop, you know? There's something more to keep that drive. And that's what we're talking about Killer Jack,

that's what Killer Jack's about, and you see in those MMA fighters, and you worry about them because you give your whole life to this thing right and if you're gonna be an MMA fighter if you're gonna fight in the UFC you don't have time for shit else like you need a complete dedication nothing can't be one foot in one foot out that's why when I see you boys like when I when I see an American Primeval whatever whatever you're on frickin all those all those fucking movies you guys are doing. When I see you, I'm like, fuck yes, dude.

Because, you know, we're a small fraternity and a lot of guys don't make it, man. Meaning when they get done, they have nothing else to put their energy into and it's a disaster. And what skills do you have? You did your whole life for this, now you're 38 years old, what are you going to do? Go be a plumber?

Like teach MMA and talk about how good you were. You get a fucking cardio kickbox coach. Like there's not a ton of options. So that's why, and the MMA community can be really toxic. And I'm like, no, you gotta champion these guys. Support whatever endeavor they're doing. You know what's cool about ramp aid? Because it's so tough.

That's what he said. I heard him on that Jackson thing, I was watching clips of whatever, and I don't know what clip it was from, but he says something like that, he goes, dude, whatever these guys are doing, fucking support that, support what these guys do. Like the next thing is the most important thing.

Like people were making fun of Woodley when he was rapping, right? And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's so tough what he's attempting to do, you gotta support him, because then people are like, oh, fight or pay, or these guys don't get what they're due. It's like, but then you shit on the guy

when he goes to attempt something outside the box. No champion that repose again like that though. You can't give a shit about what the fans think. Cause they don't have, they're just like, what's shiny now. What's not shiny. There's a white noise. Is it the Rick and Morty where he goes, I don't, I don't, I don't care. I don't care that you boo. I see what you cheer for. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great, I see what you cheer for. It can't matter.

It's like, I see what you cheer for. I see what you cheer for, yeah. Wow. You know, you get knocked out and then you got somebody that goes, dude, it doesn't matter what, you're a warrior class, this is a different thing, they don't understand. Correct. They don't understand.

And such a small fraternity, man. You know, there's not a ton of fighters out there. I think part of writing in general is such an act of faith and so is making a movie because so is writing a special. I'm about to release my special. It's all an act of faith. Maybe nobody watches it. I know it's the best I can do.

I know I surprised myself and I can't do any better than that. I've never done a special where I could do better in that moment. Maybe it's not good, maybe it's some people, whatever, but overall, I don't know how else to do it. I like surprising myself, and I think at the end of the day, the whole point of what we're doing is we're in the business of original self-expression. And when you want to be original in your self-expression, it requires that you constantly surprise and shock yourself

and scare yourself a little bit. And you've got to shake. You got to, you have to shake up your paranoid. Yeah. You got to be fair. You know, Flannery. That's the one thing I hope my kids get that I

have. I don't know what my dad did when I was young, but if someone's like, Oh, you can't climb that mountain. I'm like, yeah, I can't do. Like, go ahead and read a poem in front of people. Whatever it is, I'm like, I'll figure it out.

You know? That's some brave shit. It's great. If you got the courage to go into an open mic and read a poem in front of a bar of drunks, holy fuck. It's like when I go in and out, we watch Red Band's show the other night, and you see 17 comics, and everybody's got varying ideas of what is funny in their presentations,

and you get to see how people. It's fascinating to be a part of somebody else's. You're looking at their process. And to go and express that to animals, which is what most of us humans are. But then also to your point, I've seen what you cheer for, when people criticize those guys,

I'm like, then you do it. Go ahead, go try it, let me know how it goes for you. You know how fucking hard that is what he's doing, man? That's my favorite. Like Shane Gillis, he did that whole monologue on the Espes. Baba, do you know how big that man's huevos are? You know how fucking balls it takes to go, I know I'm gonna take so much heat within this room,

because you're all woke idiots, but I'm not doing it for you. I'm gonna eat all the shit in here. This is for everybody else. The amount of fucking bravery and balls it took to do that, people do not understand. I saw it and dude, I'm, I'm at the airport watching dying. I'm like, this fucking, this dude is a gorilla.

You have a different connection to what it was that he did then. But it's awkward in there, but for him to just keep steam rolling, keep steam rolling like that dude put on a hall of fame performance. I don't have steam joke in there, but it was deleted. He's like, you know what? Just forget about it. That's all we'll do. You talk about the writing and all that too. And that's what it is too. We learned as fighters and what you've learned is I think anything good looks like overnight success, right? But it's that suffering every fucking day.

There's no writer you know that you admire that doesn't have a trunk full of scripts that never got made. There's no writer that hasn't written, and I'm not kidding, probably 3,000 pages and nobody's read it. Trying to get people, I know successful writers in Hollywood, trying to get people to read it

instead of flip through it on the flight is basically impossible. That's why he's my reader, man. First time, and that's exactly it. Everybody has a script in their back pocket. Get somebody to read it. Get some, even just make a movie. Get somebody to watch your movie.

Yeah. This day and age is so much competition. It drives me nuts. How many people over the years that you've seen, you've got, I mean, you're a grandfather in comedy and like- I call him father time. That you've seen, the attrition rate is what I'm speaking to.

Yeah. They start off and they're there for three years and they're like, and they're there for 12 years and they stop like, like, oh, to everybody that's how many people go on and they go, I've been doing this 20 years and now I'm starting, because that's what comics talk about. I've been doing this 20 years and now I'm starting to get good. This is why I love Tony Henschliff.

Yeah. So Henschliff has been doing Kill Tony. I did Kill Tony in the Belly Room. Over 10 years. 13, 14 years ago, literally, 15 years ago. And Tony just kept showing up. He kept doing Kill Tony. Today, he's still, I see him every night at Mothership.

And he's in the green room, and he's trying to get better at comedy. He's trying to do stand-up, and he's writing, and he's like fucking fretting over this joke and that joke. He has so much respect for the process that it's kept him grounded. I said to him, we were hanging out at Mitzis, and I said, I gotta tell you, dude,

you have not changed, there was an article about how he superseded Rogan. He sent it to Rogan. Like you guys better start practicing, bitch. Funny shit. But this kid is the same guy. And if anything, he's more gracious now. And that's the one thing I admire about somebody because he's so anchored to the work.

He loves comedy. He loves when you're good. And he just has nothing but respect. So to your point, the people that stick around, that just keep doing it no matter what, regardless, it does pay dividends if you keep at it. And also you have to be talented. You got to be.

But back to when you like, oh, you know, let's say one out of a thousand scripts get made with my son. There's coach was giving the odds of him making the MLB. I went, whoa, I'm going to stop you there. We don't believe in odds. Yeah. Because if I based my life off odds,

I would have never played college football, would never touch the NFL, would never make it to the UFC. The odds are for the internet. We don't put that on my son. They're not for participants. No, no, no, we don't give a fuck about that. If they want in a million, then you're the one. Do you know why it's a one in a million?

Is because 999, 999. Stopped. Quit. That's the point. Because they're looking at the odds. Is that they fucking quit and they get, somebody puts the idea you're too old, you're too skinny, you're too short,

you're too whatever. I tell my son, I'm like, we don't believe in odds. Save that for the trash, that's not our thing. How fortunate that your kid's got your perspective, you know, like the benefit of that kind of a perspective and his bone structure. They're Giants Let's not get twisted they're both over a hundred pounds Giant children Right now like how do you uh, you talk about writing like how do you write a joke? How do you write it?

How do you do for talk about writing, like how do you write a joke? How do you write it? How do you do that? For me, it's a mindset. So I, I, what I always do with writing. Well, give them the hallmark. Give them the, give them the real deal. I ask, I ask the big questions. So I, I always like key into what I, what I, what am I honestly afraid of?

What do I honestly revere? Who am I pretending to be? Who am I really? Who do I want to be? What do I want to, what do I, what am I going to regret not doing when I die? What do I not want to say when I die? What do I want to be? What am I going to regret not doing when I die? What do I not want to say when I die? What do I want to say when I die?

These are the things that, like I asked those big questions. Here's a great question for all of us. What is the primary question in your mind? Everybody has a primary question. We're all walking around with a question. It's probably an unhelpful question. Something like, am I good enough?

Am I lovable? Or whatever it is. And you can reprogram that question, but if you look at our authors, if you look at most writers, they are always, they always seem to be right, trying to answer the same question. And to me, my question has always been, what is a man?

What is, how do you define masculinity? And what is that, what relationship does masculinity have to do with courage? Those are big questions. Like what is courage? You know, those are- You don't trade too much for this. Yeah. Yeah. Those are questions. What is it about this stuff that you guys are doing that we all do, even myself, what am I doing wrestling at 58 years old for real? I was just doing, I wrestled three rounds

today at 58. It's adorable. But what is this armor that we're always putting on? Why are you still in this kind of shape? Why are you always like you too, you're bench pressing and all that, with the tattoos and the big muscles and the black belt, what's going on here? What are we really doing? It's a good question to dilate on, because I think from there, there's a lot of gold in that. And part of what I think I try to write about is, I try to ask myself, what would happen if I let it all go? If I just fucking really let it all go. You ever do that?

You ever just stand for a second and kind of see who's left when you really feel vulnerable, when you really feel open. You know, we go to the theater for two reasons. We go to the theater, we watch movies, to laugh and to cry. And the reason we go to a movie to laugh and cry is because when you laugh and when you cry, and there's a space in between called inspiration. And a lot of times you laugh because it's so beautiful

that it's overwhelming. And that's a fact. So it's why when you listen to a great piece of music, it brings you to your knees, right? You see the Sistine Chapel, it brings you to your knees. There's a reason for that, because most of our lives are filled with drudgery. I have to eat, I have to sleep, I gotta go to the bathroom,

I gotta have sex, I gotta make enough money. That ain't life. You feel that you forget all that. You forget you're human. You actually forget you're human when you see great art, because it puts you in a state of high relief. You stop for a second and you even forget to breathe and you go, wow, oh man, that makes me believe in God

or something bigger than myself. That's what we go to the theater for. It's not just car chases. Any great movie, any great drama starts, the character has something they want. They're going for the money, they're going for the treasure, they're going for whatever. If it's a great drama, they give up what they want for what they want. They're going for the money, they're going for the treasure, they're going for whatever. If it's a great drama, they give up what they want for what they need. It's so interesting to me that our heroes in the movies give up everything they've been going for through the whole movie and we want it for them. They end up with nothing but they get what they need. Usually it's like, oh, I thought about somebody else for the first time in my life. I sacrificed myself for someone else.

That's a really interesting thing. Why does that resonate with our psychic structure? Because we all do it. We all do it. Here's the other thing is what's a tragedy? A tragedy is when the character starts with a fatal flaw, pride or whatever, and they never let it go. They hold on and get sucked into the deep by the white whale.

Ahab just couldn't let go of his obsession. He wanted revenge on that white whale. And he finally harpooned it, but his leg got caught and he got pulled in. And if you read the book in Moby Dick, it happens this fast. It's so anticlimactic. He just disappears. Because when you get pulled in the water, you disappear.

And that's what happens in life. So to me, the long way of saying I write about those kinds of things when I think about it, I find it very interesting that all of us, all of us in the final theme is that there's always that passage from boy to man. Why is it that Harry Potter goes from being boy wizard to wizard to man?

What is the resurrection story? That resurrection story is played out everywhere. It's because we believe that inside of us, this is not all that there's, I have more in me. And it's going to take courage. And I'm going to be in the middle of the fucking ocean without a paddle. And I'm not going to know how to get back.

And everything I got ready for, my cauliflower ears and all my armor, the challenge, the dragon, I've never seen before and I have no armor for the dragon. I didn't get ready for that. All my technique doesn't work against that fucking dragon. I gotta figure it out. That's another story.

I also think, Keith, when you're like, how do you write jokes? When I first started comedy, that's the first question I'd ask all the guys I looked up to. Like, I'd ask Bill Burr, I'd ask Dele, I'd ask Theod, I'd ask Brian, I'd ask Rogan, and everyone had a different answer. And then it comes down to, you gotta figure that,

like you gotta make your own that works for you. But it starts with emotion. It starts with what bothers you. But then, like Rogan, he literally sits down at a keyboard every night. He does his thing, goes over and over it, and he keeps working, he goes over and over it, and then Bill Burr, he physically has to write it.

Well, Joe's always written from the absurdity. Then Theo's just off the top. Yeah. That's how talented he is. Well, if you say Theo, you can't ask Theo how to write a joke. He could never to write. Well, Joe's always written from. Then feels just off the top. Yeah. Well, that's how talented. If you can't ask Theo how to write a joke, he could never tell you. He's a common genius. So I would, I would. One of those guys is just funny.

I would talk to a few. I'm like, all right, not following him. Right. Like I'm not going to, that's not me. I don't have that skillset. So I feel is out. He's like an alien. So then when it comes to work ethic, I'm more like Rogan.

So I'll tie and type it out, but then that didn't work for me because then I found myself talking not how I talk. Cause when you write it down, it's not really how you talk. So it's like took forever to figure out forever. That's hard if you talk off the top. I wrote a eulogy for a friend, right? I had to go like what an honor. And then I'm going to, and I write this whole, and I write all this out and then the morning that I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna tie, and I go, this is bullshit, I'm gonna be talking to these people,

I'm not reading them, and then it's just, you go and you orate, right? And that becomes the thing, and there's something in between there, where how do you put that oration on the paper so you can recreate it night after night? So mine was, my method was bullet points, and then fill in, my method was bullet points

and then fill in, be yourself between the points. We started with stories with you, remember? Yeah, started with stories. We started with the story. But it'd be bullet points. I just need one word to remind me of it. I saw you guys in Dallas. Yeah.

And you're like, just go out, Brandon. Tell a story. And I go tell them a story. And we would add little things in there. We'd dilate on certain things. What did the surgeon look like when he shot your, let's stop at each sort of turning point of the story and play with that idea.

What are we doing? Instead of telling the story to get to the end, flesh the fuck out. Yeah, because you have, what I love about stand-up, like Ellen used to do this really well, you have a story, so you're going to get to a point, I'm going to tell you a story, there's going to be a beginning, middle, and end.

There's no reason why you can't, tributary, I have a story, so you're going to get to a point, I'm going to tell you a story that there's going to be a beginning, middle, and end. There's no reason why you can't tributary, you can't go off on a tangent. The great jazz, in jazz they call it swinging. So in jazz you have a song, right? You have a, there's a beginning, middle, and end song. With the great jazz musicians, whether it was Thelonious Monk or it was Charlie Parker,

it was Wynton Marsalis, they would swing, and swinging is when they'd improvise. So they'd go, you can hear this great recording of Charlie Parker, he's playing, he's playing a song, and some sailors walked in, and when the sailors walked in, he starts playing an old sailor tune, within the fucking thought, he'd do seamlessly, and it's this old, like, sailor tune, and he's doing, and he starts to play,

and then he comes back to the song And the whole fucking crowd goes motherfucker this dude and it's just like improvising It'd be like a comic where I see the sailors and I'm like nice bell bottoms They come with clogs or whatever fuck and then you get back to you now what I was saying And you but you you tie it in you weave it in Yeah, are you are you guys good at stopping spelling the roses like in your UFC career? Like people ask him about it. I'm like, I was bad at it because I was like, I was like a race horse. So it was like the next race, the next race.

We were really similar, man. I was like that. And I have to get out to train every fucking day. I turned down so many, Dana come to dinner when you're in Vegas, come to dinner. No, I got to get back in train. Sorry, man. So stupid.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was a race horse and I never like embraced it. And then even with comedy, right, I don't do standup anymore because my kiddos, I just, I just, I couldn't do the craft, you know, it's due. I was one foot in, one foot out. I had kids, I couldn't travel all the time.

So I, it's like, you can't be one foot, one foot out. Brian knows how hard it is. So it's like, I can't do it. So I'm not going to do myself a disservice to it. But I think back like you and Brian's talking about that stuff and like going through that process, one foot, one foot out. Brian knows how hard it is. So it's like I can't do it, so I'm not gonna do myself a disservice to it. But I think back, like you know when Brian's talking about that stuff, and like going through that process, and I'm hanging out with all these great comics,

like what a fucking blessing. I look back at it now, and I'm like that was such a cool fucking time in my life. And at the time I had no clue. I had no clue that that was the golden age of the comedy store, and I'm getting up, and I'm following Joey Diaz and all these monsters. I was just like, this is comedy, this is what you do.

Now I'm out of it looking back, I'm like, what a fucking time, dude. That's so cool. Like one of the best times of my life. Yeah. I was in the green. Those Tuesday shows, the comics are the best comics on the planet.

The best. You walk into the green room and it'd be like, hi Joe Rogan, hi Bill Burr, remember? I mean, hi Sebastian Mascarico, hi Theo Vaughn. Where Joe's gone. Yeah. And then that Tuesday night he came back. That was an epic moment.

Nuts. Crazy times. Nuts, nuts, nuts. But all of the guys that come up to me that we trained with at Jackson or something, I'm like, y'all remember me? I'm like, dude, I'm not even trying to be disreputable. I have no clue.

Right. And if you talk about what camp was it, they'll tell me, I'm like, dude, I'm not even trying to be disreputable, I have no clue. And if you talk about, like, what camp was it, they'll tell me, I'm like, nah, I was like so like this. Don't they, like, kids erase your memories. Kids are the, with my kiddos, it's the only time I'm present. It's the only time where I can recall how he played in this game,

I can recall what we did on vacation. If it's about me or anybody else, I don't really, the kids make me present, which is weird. And you retain all those memories from all those moments. All of it, all of it, don't forget any of it. That's dope, that's dope. Yep, it's the only thing in my life I do not forget. I was in the green room, what, yesterday,

was that last night, the night, Saturday night, the night before, what a fucking pleasure, man. Oh yeah, at the mothership? Yeah, the night before. What a fucking pleasure, man. Oh yeah. What an honor. With the mothership? Yeah, just to see. Who was up? Who was that? Ari, Tony was there.

And just to see. Joe DeRosa. Just to see the camaraderie. It's just like fighters. Matty Edgar went up. And the fight room. That's what it reminded me of. And the camaraderie.

And they're just speaking to each other in a certain language. Yes. Not only they understand. It's like this tight-knit fraternity. I think that's what drew me to comedy so much, is like, oh, I have a team. A brotherhood.

I have a brotherhood. That was the best thing I've waited. Especially at the comic store. It was the best thing. Between like 17 and 2020, it was that. And I realized as I get older, that's what I was drawn to. Comedy was great.

Joe retrained everybody. Yeah, that's Rogan. Joe retrained everybody. And people don't, I don't know if people talk about that or not, I guess, but like, before that, people were catty. People would tear each other down. You know, Ari's got to punch Bobby Lee in the face.

Like, there's all this that's going on. There's a lot of like, fuck you, because that could be my spot, so I can't get you ahead of me. And like, there's a lot of that kind of stuff. And it went back, that's how you know how important Rogan is, because it went back to that. When Rogan left, the king was gone.

The king was gone. So then it went back, you remember, it went, when Rogan left and moved to Austin, then it reverted back to that and everyone was catty and fighting, because you don't have a king who goes, hold up, this is how we act, this is how we treat each other. When everybody does better, everybody does better. and if you don't like it get the fuck out and notice rogans like cool and then he has the same culture here now

they all support each other nobody's negative you need that king so when the king left that you left the asylum to the fucking inmates wild and there's nobody else that cares about the community enough, even if they're big like that, they care about themselves. And so they're not leading in that way. There's only one Rogan. He had the respect where he walks in, people are like, OK,

I have to act a certain way. When he left, that was gone. There's no one as powerful because what Joe says goes. You know what I'm saying? Because he's done it. You ever hear the expression in Hollywood, but you could apply it to hot too I mean the expression in Washington DC You can apply it to Hollywood if you want a friend if you're in DC you want a friend in Washington DC

By a dog. Yeah feed a dog and it's the same idea in Hollywood. It's cut throw anywhere else I hate the fucking Hollywood the way they see you is like Are you somebody that can can help me come up to another level or Or you using me to come up to it to my level the old joke was that my friend His buddy feel it as soon as you beat him you can feel it I don't wanna be in Hollywood. I'll be having a fucking deep conversation. The guys like staring off. It's looking for the next best thing I'm like buddy. I'm fucking right here. Yeah That's like my buddy Jack says to this guy, he goes,

his mother, he found his mother died, this producer. And he goes, I'm sorry about your mom, dude. He goes, man, thank you. Bro, hold on, I gotta talk to this fucking guy. Jesus Christ. He's like, what the fuck? Cutthroat, dude. That old joke in Hollywood, too,

where two producers are talking and one of the producers goes, you're lying to me. And the producer goes, I know, but let me finish. And that's Hollywood. That's fucking, that's a joke. There's a desperation there that if you're in tune at all with any of that kind of stuff, you feel, it's palpable.

You can smell it. And I don't care if you live in the hills or if you live in a shitty apartment on Hollywood Boulevard, you're in the same fishbowl of desperation. And it feels like that. You can feel it. Back then, too, people who would... Harvey Weinstein was always... always... Always good to me. Always good to me.

Always good to me. Always good to me. Very gropey, but very good to me. I knew about Harvey way before, because my girlfriend was the first to come out against him with the New York Times. So I knew about that shit forever. But it wasn't just that. If you do that, if you're that kind of guy, you're a piece of shit across the board. It's not like you do that. And I remember my two friends had a movie with him.

They were doing a movie with him. And I was like, that's a big deal. It was fucking, when he was running Miramax and stuff like that. And I never forgot, literally two months later, I was like, how's it going with Harvey? And my buddy goes, I don't know. And I go, what do you mean?

He goes, he just lies. He just fucking lies. And then he acts like it's nothing, but we know he's lying. He just fucking lies, you know? And that was, for a long time, you could kind of get away with that. He catches up with them. But it's also...

Yes or no? Yeah, but it's also that... did you see that CEO at the Coldplay concert? Yeah. So he had to resign, right? And he's out. It's just so silly because that... I know buddies that work with him and around him and they all go, thank God. Really? They go, it's about time.

Apparently it was just a complete piece of shit, like super difficult. He started that company. He's been doing shady shit. You know what I would've thought he was cool? They say he's impossible to work with, so when he finally resigned, they went, thank God, because if this didn't happen,

he would've been there forever. They were both. And then he trains everybody below him, like you were saying, how to behave, right? It would've been awesome if they just, when they noticed that instead of running, they just went, cause you already, he's up.

They were both separated apparently from their spouse. No, no, he was married. But I heard that they were both separate. I don't know. But either way, it's like, hey bro, you guys are like all huggy, huggy. Look it up, James. It can't be that secret.

No, if they were separate, it wouldn't be a big deal. I think they were. He was just like, right, he's worth 10 million He was just like, he's worth $10 million. He's like, oh, there's $5 million. Yeah. They were hard. They weren't separated because look at how they reacted. They're not separate.

Who told you that? God, I forgot. I know for a fact. You were even here. I think they are. I think they're both separate. I know. I smoked up a little more.

It's good to see you. You still don't want it because the problem is she was head of his HR department. So that's a bad luck. Look it up, Ginger B. I'm almost positive they're not separated. HR department. So that's a bad luck. Look it up, Jen, be careful. I'm almost positive that I separated. The thing about Harvey Weinstein is that he's like gross.

But I'm going to say it's the system that trains him to be gross. Everybody goes, oh, he's in jail now. Now that's not a problem. Bitch, that's the same problem that's going on all the time no matter what, because the system dictates like, hey, I got to the riches, I got to the place where I can say yes or no, and he was probably

as surprised as anybody the first time he pulled his dick out and somebody fucking good looking jerked him off. Right, and then he's like, oh, this is part of the job. Right, and then that just goes. He kept getting away with it. That's what I mean about that desperation in Hollywood. It's the play, it's like Chappelle said something about that desperation. Hollywood, it's, it's the place. It's like Chappelle said something about it and he goes,

Oh, they call all these people Martin Lawrence. They call these people crazy. This and that. And he says, I'd like you to consider that maybe the town's a little sick. Yeah. And there's that aspect of it that nobody talks about, you know? Yeah. I mean, look, you, you, it's so true.

It was, you can watch ent, and then you'll get a sense of how you were able to behave back there. And if you weren't on the end, you basically had to play ball. You say that show, it makes me think of all the other people that aren't canceled, and I'm like, they didn't find out about that guy yet? Correct.

Fuck me. She did a statement saying they're divorced. No, they're filing for divorce now. Now. Like they were together. Yeah. She, they said she had her, his last name on her Facebook and then five minutes later, that last name is off of her Facebook.

And now she's, and then she put out a statement saying she's getting a file for a divorce. Yeah. But I think that they were both already kind of like in a situation where they were separate. Who told you that? I'm telling you that's not right, B. I saw Charlie Kirk, uh, uh, make a post. already kind of like in a situation where they're separated. I think the larger thing. Who told you that?

I'm telling you that's not right, B. I saw Charlie Kirk make a post. He's pretty careful with what he says. And he said it was more like, what do you guys think of this? Because they were respectively separated. Problem is that she's the head of the HR and he's the creator of the company.

So what happens is you set a very, it's a very, cause she's HR. So HR takes all these like fucking, I feel sexually harassed and all that stuff. There it is. No, there's no indication that Andy was separate from his wife for attending Coldplay Company. And that comes from AI.

You gotta stay off TikTok. You gotta stay off TikTok. Cause I know people that work for the company. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You gotta stay off TikTok. Wow, happy family photos. All right, well, there you go.

And then scroll down. That's his wife. Wow, happy family photos. All right, well, there you go. And then scroll down. That's his wife? She's a dime piece. Yeah. They look similar to you, kind of. The other one, the one on the left, I mean. That's, is that his wife? I don't know.

Either way, man, it's tough. It's a tough one. I wish they showed him when they were happy instead of wrestling. Well, get away from me. Somebody made a joke. he should have been like, you're fucking choking, man. You know what I mean?

I saved her life. Yeah. I love that she's the head of HR, that's the best part. Yeah, she resigned right away and he got fired shortly after. But he still has all his stocks. He owns the company, so he resigned. No, he resigned, she got fired.

Yeah, that's what I said. Well, you know, it's, it is what it is. I mean, he's going to lose house. It's humanity, man. Nobody's above it. No. Did you have to do it at a Coldplay

concert with 60,000 people? I mean, at one point, at some point you want to get caught. Maybe it's because they found out that they were Coldplay fans. That was the problem. Coldplay doesn't mind. No, they're like.

Human beings do things that ensure that they, it's a way out. You can't be surprised by humans. He was being, they were being reckless. It's fine. I don't give a fuck. They know Coldplay is on tour. Well fellas, I can't wait for your movie, man.

Yeah, man. Thanks guys. What's the date it comes out? August 8th. Kill Me Again? Kill Me Again, August 8th, theaters, wherever you wanna. Streaming platforms and theaters, you guys are doing the grand, the the the premiere premiere in L.A.

on the 31st and a premiere in New York on the sixth. We play that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Are you allowed to? Is there any copyright? No, this is our our trailer. I want this guy to see it. Yeah, I saw it. Oh, yeah. Let's watch it for the fans. So they can see it.

It's a gruesome scene here in the Heights. I extreme that up. It is still preliminary, but with the midnight. I see it. Brennan Farrer's so fucking amazing. Talk. Ike, can you turn that up? Is everything okay? Give me a deja vu. Every night. Ike, can you turn that up? No!

I'm caught in like this, uh... I don't like it. It's a record scratch. It just keeps like... It just keeps repeating. Ah, you can eh, eh. It just keeps repeating. Ah, you can grab a seat anywhere. Thanks, turn that up. You can just sit anywhere.

You can just sit anywhere. You can just sit anywhere. You put a shark in a tank full of guppies, what do you think is going to happen? You see my friend? No. He just came to say hi. To get to know you a little bit. Why?

I'm gonna kill you. Shoot. Food's here. Midnight mangler. It's hell of a moniker. You didn't flush. What do you think, man? Good?

Catchy? What do you think he looks like? We'll have three more beers. Keep that cold. I'll be right back. You really disappoint me. You let them break you. I can't keep doing the same thing over and over again. Why are you here? I don't know. Michelle Watterson. Yes. Oh cool. Oh I love Michelle. He's great. I'm gone here. So he's here to work something out. Yeah. Are you playing the wise man there? The Yoda? Kind of the opposite of that. You'll see. You're a little bit more. But the thing is there's

a huge twist at the end that you can't give away I can't lie. It's a kind of movie. Got to see twice because there's Easter eggs all throughout this motherfucker I'm very excited and proud of you boys man. He's killing it. We'll be actor Brendan Ferry's fucking amazing world-class man and Where'd you find him? I will career. I worked on night shift. He did a series pilot We put together to is he the short he started a short It's good. I did this he's a lead in the night shift some some hospital. Can you send me your short? Oh, I love to yeah, but okay. I love to man. Oh cowboys in that too Are they wearing chaps no cowboy no cowboy Gable, oh, sorry, and you don't act like you don't have the same feeling.

Well, I'm gay for Cowboy, too. We do have a movie like that, though. Very attractive to Cowboy. We do have that. We do offer that. Yeah, we offer that. That was a BTS. Yeah, yeah, listen.

All right, fellas. Well, Tate Fletcher, Keith Jardine, two of my faves, man. You guys are awesome. We love you guys. Thanks for having us, man. August 9th. Go watch the movie, y'all. It's been a long time.

Not each other a long time. Brian's going to be in Georgia. Everybody, Alfredo to Georgia, Atlanta. Come get some. Helium Comedy Club, Charleston, South Carolina. August one and two. And then I'll be August third. I'm at Cap Cities here.

We're doing a charity show at Cap Cities. That's a Sunday. Come get some. And then San Diego Mic Shop, August 22 and 23. All right, kids, we love you. This is The Fighting Kid. We're out. Let's take a little break, buddy.

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