The Fighter & The Kid - Kevin Durant Couldn't Bench 135?! Mike Catherwood & Schaub React | TFATK Ep. 1183

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

Brendan Schaub and Austin dive deep into one of the most controversial debates in sports and life: talent vs hard work. Is hard work really enough to succeed, or are some people just built different?The conversation breaks down real examples from elite athletes, including stories about NBA stars, UFC fighters, and the mindset it takes to compete at the highest level. Schaub explains why “hard work beats talent” isn’t always true—and why the combination of talent and work ethic is what truly separates champions.They also get into broader cultural topics, including youth sports burnout, the pressure of modern competition, and how systems like education and parenting impact success. Plus, a raw discussion on Texas vs California culture, crime, and lifestyle differences adds another viral layer to the episode.If you're into UFC, MMA, athlete mentality, or real talk about success, this episode hits hard.Topics include:UFC mindset and elite fightersTalent vs hard work debateYouth sports and burnoutTexas vs California culture differencesSuccess, discipline, and reality checksGet this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkO'Reilly - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is really the fighter and the kid. Yes, sir. It's the fighter and the psycho Mike. Let's do it. Is that fair? The fighter and the male model today. Oh, facts, dude. Let's just go with that.

Thanks for doing this, pal. Brian's in Florida where all old people go to die. So we got to grace them that exemption. Plain shuffleboard. So I sent out the bat signal in Austin. You answered, bud. Yes, I did. What's going on, brother?

I've been having the beauty slash the demand of farm life our goats there was like a dozen pregnant female goats obviously female

and is it one male goat doing all the damn it's just one male just they bring in it ended up being two because like one guy like his dick got tired but the

a guy brought in his his billy goats and he's just started fucking yeah and they did he's started fucking to the point that they tried to fence off the women to make sure and they would he would jump a fence or they would jump a fence to get some sweet dick and he impregnated so many and then

they get bigger they get bigger their nip their teeth would start to protrude and I'm like man this is when's this going to go and then all of a sudden once one started giving birth it just and I had 11 in the last four days and how long are they pregnant for like regular pregnancy No, no, not like human, but it's not like, it's not like a kitty. It's like, it's like four months or something like that. Oh, wow. So a good amount of time. Yeah.

Then what are you going to do with all these? You just have an influx of goats. Yeah, just keep them. And just like figure out how to keep them alive and, like let them be, and assimilate into the thing. Just let them run wild. Yeah. Do you, do what run into the wilderness? Do you, uh, you ever kill anything on your farm?

Like, when you say farm, I mean, when I hear farm, like, yeah, you got to do some, you have to do some, you'll make some tough decisions. Yeah. I only, how a cow gets a runny nose. see you um chickens mostly but um yeah you know like livestock they get certain forms of sickness and you got to do what the most humane thing is and you're like you i actually talked about this in in detail on a podcast i did the game plan pod i was like it the one thing that farming has done and it's taught me about life as a whole is that in order to have a meaningful life you

have to do a bunch of shit you don't want to do. Yes. And like, especially the younger generations, I'm not going to be that guy, like, old man. Like, you kids don't understand. But I think because of the access to the internet and things, like, this hedonistic addiction, it's like, yeah, but I don't want to. I see that guy who's, like, really blowing up on, on the internet right now. He's a, wears glasses.

He's, like, a financial advisor. And he brings people on and just talk shit because they'll be like, I have four kids and no job. And I buy clothes every day on T-Mu. And he just literally just rips him. I forgot. He's blowing up right now in like the digital sphere. I feel like those guys come and go. They do. They do. I think there's a, Caleb Hammer. Yeah, that fellow. He's like really popular. And a lot of his his videos that I see, because I don't really watch the show, but I see a lot of the highlights. A lot of them are, he goes, okay, you're $75,000 in debt and you're a professional

macro may animal maker on Etsy. Why don't you get a nine to five. And to a T, they'll all say, like, but I don't want to. And what I'm getting back to my point is, like, I don't want to chop a neck chicken's head off. I don't want to put a goat out of its misery, but it's what needs to be done for everyone to thrive. It's what has to.

You just got to, I don't want to do a lot of things. I don't want to fuck one woman. Yep. I really don't, but it's what I do. I made a commitment, and that's that. Yeah, just. And I made it. dim the rules.

It'll be a net positive in the end. Yeah. But that's, well, with that guy, sounds like he's kind of doing, from what I've, I've never seen him,

but from my hair, sounds like he's kind of doing great work. Hold on. You're in debt for $75,000. You have four kids and you just want to keep making fucking clay models on Etsy? And then it'll be a lot of people who like, like 35 year old dude who's really healthy and like no disability or anything like that. and he'll be receiving, like, government assistance.

And the guy's like, go to a construction site right now. Like, why are you on food stamps? Yeah, I kind of dig this guy now. He's great. He is. He's really... He's this. He's really...

He's a really... We've got to figure this out, man. Like, the route you're going, it's not good. And I think... Let me see a clip of him, Chin to make sure I'm cool with it. He's also good on camera. He's like a charismatic fellow. I'd imagine with 3 million subscribers, he's doing something right.

Let's go with the one you just mentioned. I'm 27 based out of Austin, Texas. Of course. This is financial audit. What are you for living in Austin, Texas? My main thing is I am a spiritual coach. Oh. Okay.

Interesting. Yeah. How does that go? How does that go? It's like therapy or? It's not therapy. It's a hybrid between, online coaching, online courses.

And also now that things are opening back up, I'm doing in-person things. And it's a hybrid of like yoga, meditation, life coaching, upliftment. So she's not making money. Essentially guiding people into feeling good and fulfillment in their life. Okay. And how successful are you in this? Not. It's a work in progress.

Hey, good for her for having the balls come on. I agree. Making, you know, 40K months. $40,000 a month? Uh-huh. That'd be nice. I know, right? That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. So that was like, that's where the head was at. My head was at. And how much you bring in a month? It varies. Average. Give me an average. Let's work with an average here.

Break it down between the low, months, high months. What's the average across? Just a brief pause to ask you to please consider a subscribe. A low month? Could be anywhere from to 3,000 to an average is I would say, 6,500.

Okay, that's not bad at all. That's your average. That's not your high. That's your average. Do you think she's lost? Okay, 6,500. Fantastic. What's the complaint about that? Because they spent 16 a month? How long have you been doing this full time? I mean, in the last few years.

years. Okay, so a couple of years bring in personal business to pretty much $80,000 a year. People would love that. I mean, you're $5,000 over the median household income in Austin and well above the median in the United States. And it's just you. Yeah. Debt. Why are we in this debt in the first place? We haven't even talked about it. We'll go into it. But why? 80,000 dollars a year. Why? Yeah, why are you in this debt? But you get into it? Why are you in this debt? Why are you in? not out of it. What is happening? That's a question. I mean, it's on my vision board to have all my debts be cleared. Oh, fuck off. I think that's where, yeah, I didn't really understand the nature of having like a credit card. So yeah, you can stop the change. A lot of the problem and you almost you feel bad for it, but no nowhere in school, like my dad teaches finance in college currently. Really? Yeah.

Nice. But he never, you never talked to me about it. Never, because it just wasn't, no one really goes through that stuff. Like, you know, I have a double major. No one ever told me like, hey man, interest rates, credit cards, debt, like this is how this breaks down. Property taxes, state tax. Like, it's kind of this foreign thing, which is by design, I think. So like, this young lady who's an entrepreneur, granted, it's a little, she's a little earthy and, you know, I don't think it's her thing. she opens up this business she's taking credit cards you're getting loans you just don't know you don't know and so then by the time you realize you're like oh shit i'm i don't know what she's in 50 000 in debt

and she's like oh my god it's like yeah that's how this goes she's way less shitty than most people because at least she was nice and honest and kind of open she wasn't um equivocating but i was you were saying like no one teach you i think that's by design and i said absolutely but now i think about it it also may just be by circumstance in the sense that, you know, schooling kind of came about in this country, reading, writing arithmetic. And people get into arguments about the system and why it was created to make better factory workers. Maybe, okay, fine. Yep. Reading writing arithmetic, the end, grades K through 12.

Somewhere along the line, there was a transition from only guys like, like, Andrew Carnegie had credit. but you not the average guy didn't have credit you had a savings account and you had the you paid for your rent slash mortgage and you paid for your family's food and like and you just yeah i had money i spend money let me save some and it was it was like a pretty clear balance sheet things transitioned to now you have loans and and and like refis and and that all and the schooling system didn't change and i'm not necessarily sure if it was on purpose or if it was just like this is now our existence this is our real reality. This is what really matters to the average adult. And we're not talking about shit in school. Yeah. No one's doing. No one's so it's because it's on the parents and it's like, man, parents are busy, dude. They're busy and they're assuming when they send their kids of school that they're going to get them ready for life in the in the workplace. But they're, it's really not like it like even myself. I always ask my kiddos all the time. Like what do you learn today? Would you guys go through? Things haven't changed in how long?

Like the school, the school system is one of the only systems. Now there's some examples. where they have adapted and made some changes. But the school system really hasn't adapted or changed in fucking 50 years. We're just going to keep doing the same shit over and over. It's wild to me. It is wild, especially when you consider how, I don't know shit about education. But I do not. I mean, look, I went to school and I have a child.

And I think back, like, the real valid lessons from traditional school, schooling, most of them were kind of latent benefits. It wasn't stuff I learned in class. Obviously, there was having a good basic fundamental understanding of arithmetic and obviously literacy and being able to write and speak. That's very important. That's probably the most important. But outside of that, learning how to socially interact properly, learning how to meet deadlines. And a lot of it too was in school. I mean, sorry, in sports. In sports. And that's why it's so I don't mean to interrupt you. That's why it's so important to put your kids in sports.

Your kid doesn't have to have a future in a division one college, doesn't have to play for the, or the Dodgers. That's not the goal. The goal, if you put your kid in sports and don't let them quit, force them to do it, no matter what, is because you got to have carry through, but also you learn a work ethic. You learn how to communicate with teammates. You learn discipline, commitment. And then also to your point, too, you learn, like, in the dugout or in the locker room, how to relate to people from different perspectives of life. It just, it goes so much further. And even if you look at, like, it's like 70% of CEOs have a sports background in some facet.

Now, I'm not saying they played Division I or even D3, but they played high school. They know what it's like to. I think the biggest thing for me with team sports especially was always, there's so many avenues. in life where you don't have, literally don't have to figure out a way to make it work with people that you think are fucking tools or assholes or dick. But there were people that like were really close teammates of mine that I was like, this guy fucking sucks. Especially upper classmen when I was like a freshman or sophomore. I was like, this guy, this guy genuinely makes my life shitty. But then there was those four hours a day during prior. And then the two hours,

two hours on Friday nights, we're like, this is my boy. You learn to manage it. You got to figure out Together we symbiotically have to make success. And I think it's really important. Like there's a kid on one of Tigers teams where he's just gifted. He's just different. He's gifted. He's so gifted. You can guess his ethnicity.

He's so fast. So explosive football. Black. And he's so he, I mean, probably the best 10 year old receiver I've ever seen. But he does a receiver. He just does, like he doesn't have to do the same work that the other kids. do. Yeah. He sometimes I'm his practice. Sometimes it'll run the wrong route, but skill scores touchdown. And T's like, I don't get it, man. I'm like, yep, you're getting the hard lesson.

Sometimes there's going to be outliers, man. There's going to be things where guys have this advantage and it's just sports isn't fair. It's just, it's not fair. I said now, as you get, as you go along, he's good right now. Yeah. You keep grinding. You keep grinding. Because eventually the, you know, T has a lot of talent. But, eventually that talent, everyone, you're going to get to a spot where everyone has talent. And then everyone's also going to work hard. So when people go, hard work beats talent. It's like, that's not true.

Because I know a lot of talented kids who work just as hard as your kid, and then your kid's fucked. Yeah. So for T, I think he's like dealing this. Like, well, I did whatever five bad in practice week. That kid did none, but he's still hitting home runs. Like, yeah, dude. That's sports? Yeah.

It is. It is. And that's also. It's just, it's, it's, it's, um, really interesting that you brought this up because it's very serendipitous in the last week or so. I, I've not only been having this conversation, but I had come across all these, and I think that maybe it's secretly how algorithms work, but I've been having these conversations and then also I'm, I, I've seen whether it be serendipity or like a machine made, forcing, I've seen these clips of, um, god damn it. I wish I could remember this guy's

name. It's not, it's not Matt Barnes. But he's a former, he is great. He is great. He's a really cool guy. But he's a former NBA player that does a podcast now and he's really good. Gilbert Arena. It was Gilbert Arenas. Thank you. He's big in the space. And interviewer asked, what's, who's the guy who had all the gifts, but didn't put in the effort to become a goat? And Gilbert Reas goes like 99% of people who were in the NBA. Because all the, guys who make it, if you're in the NBA, you have all the gifts. You're more

gifted than anyone. It's like, but then he broke it down. He's like, that's all guys. We all could, but then there's the killers. But the number one comes in my mind was Vince Carter. He said no one was more physically gifted than Vince Carter. He just didn't have the killer and sing, blah, blah, blah. Then

I watch that. I see another clip from Charles Barkley, who talks about like, I was as good, if not better, than anybody else in the world. that it was great and he was there there was parkly was no argument in the top three greatest basketball players

on the in the world that at the time yeah at the time yeah yeah when he played his first year his last year with philly and his first year with philipenix yeah charles barkley was fucking amazing yeah but he said you have he's like anyone who becomes an all-star certainly you get to hall of fame level everyone has crazy gifts he said you have to have the combination of the talent he said people talk about hard work and

beats talent. He's like, no. Not true. Talent and hard work together crushes all. You can't. And then, again, the same thing. And just yesterday, I'm watching an interview with Jay Cutler, not the quarterback, the bodybuilder. And he's like, he talks. The thing about Ronnie, what was different about Ronnie

was that all of us, if you have your IFBB card, you're gifted. And it's true. If you get to even to like high level amateur bodybuilding, you have crazy levels of genetic. Yeah. He said the difference with Ronnie, he's like, Ronnie and I would go do guest posing he'd get off the plane it's two in the morning he's like let me go train now let's go do

his leg day and i'm like ronnie and of course jay cutler works hard jay color was a fucking animal and he's like who this guy's next level and then you hear the stories of coby and and jordan there's a different thing there's talent and this insane instinct to be better it's a weird mix yeah you got to have that killer instinct it's like uh one of the guys i coached with on the football team a j he's the all-time leading score at texas for basketball he played with Kevin Durant. Jesus. He was in camps and had to defend Derek Rose.

And I asked him, because I saw a video of Kevin Durant and this dude, I forget the dude, but he's an All-Star. He plays for Toronto. He's talking shit to Durant, but he's miced up. And Durant goes, it's the middle of the game. Dran's like trying to post him up. And the guy's talking shit to Durant. And Durant goes, buddy, your best year was my worst year.

He goes, what the fuck are you talking about? And the guy was like, you ain't shit, you've lost step. He was like, oh, and Durant goes, you're about to learn today. He goes, give me the ball. Give him the ball. Jukes him out, dunks it. And you're just like, what the fuck? So I brought up that video to AJ.

I'm like, hey, Durant was just different. He's like, dude, when he came on campus, he goes, we're in the wait room. And it's kind of a famous clip of Durant Camp Bench 135. Can't. He cares. They show him just like, so they said, he said they're in the wait room. And he's weak at everything. Yeah.

And one of the, he goes, one of the captains on team were like, man, you weak. And he goes, excuse me? He goes, you weak in here. And he goes, wait till we get out there. And he was like, okay. And he goes, we went out there. He's like, dude, we were like, oh, shit. He was like, I mean, literally did whatever he want to whoever he wanted at any given

moment. He's like, you're just like, oh, there's levels. Don't give the fuck how much you bench. What, you know, what your power cleaner or snap. matches. Duran was like, oh, cool, I can't bench whatever, 135. Especially with basketball, because you're talking about, like, change of direction and explosive. And, like, people lose, I'm not world's authority on sports science, but I was really fortunate to work with literally some of the best in the world, watching them train

some of the best athletes in the world and being there and being a part of it. And people overlook the nervous system. There is clearly, obviously, like muscle contraction and speed, that's a thing. and like the length of your bones is the some people have more advanced nervous systems and they're you know they just can react quicker they can move their brain sees things faster than in processes things faster than we do and it like i i guarantee like that's what that's kind of what was going on there it's like yeah sure i can't do 10 pushups i'm going to fucking embarrass you yeah i'm done on you what i'm here for and we're all here for i'm the best i'm not a power lifter by the way i don't give a fuck about the weight room yeah i spend my time in a basketball

Jim, you know? But it's just these outliers. I love hearing those freaking stories, man. I'm like, he was that good. He was never said anything like it. And AJ was, you know, top recruiters, he's clatt, monster, monster. I've heard you do this, that clip, I even heard Matt Damon

talking about watching that clip, but that clip of you talking about the one time you were lucky enough to train with John Jones. And he's like, he just comes in late, and he doesn't warm up and he just fucks people up. He was, like, there's a difference. Yeah, my thing, I think for some guys, if you get to that level and then you see those guys who it's like,

ah, he's just that gifted? And, but I always knew like, I was, I was blessed with some gifts, but I was in, uh,

you know, Tony Gonzalez. So I knew in order to get my foot in the door, I have to outwork everyone. Right. So that was like my thing. And I knew that, uh,

shit, man, especially when I got to college. When I, when I walked on the University of Colorado, I was like, all right. They gave,

they gave me a shot. Now the only, there's a lot of good guys some are faster some are bigger some are stronger but i'll just be the guy where like that dude fucking works yeah so i knew that could i could separate myself with that but then eventually you're going to run into a guy who's bigger faster stronger better catching footballs and works just as hard as you and then he's the starting tight end the NFL and then you're selling supplements door to door yeah but that work ethic you can take that and apply it to other shit and that that's where that's the benefit of it

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Hazzaw! Pluto TV. Stream now. Pay never. Especially the real, like the, when we're talking about, I'm not trying to say, what sports harder or better. But we were talking about the living on the edge sports, combat sports,

football, American football, I would imagine rugby, NASCAR F1, where it's really, you kind of everything else in the world gets the volume turned down. Like if you can make it in that world,

you can kind of transition. If you want, if you put your mind to it, to transition it. Yeah, that's where baseball is a little different. I think. Baseball players are just crazy.

It's twofold. It's like the reason why baseball in America is the most participated sport amongst kids is because at a young level, you don't have to be athletic and you can still contribute and play the game.

In football, right away, you've got to be pretty athletic. If you want to find out how athletic kids, go ahead and run track. And then you'll be like, oh, my kid's not that athletic. But in baseball... Track and gymnastics are the best... The best display of athleticism.

Of pure rawness, athleticism. But with Baseball, it's like, you know, you and I love the Dodgers. Yeah, I love it. I don't miss the game. I was watching Max Muncie, whose hand-eye coordination is freakish. But when you look at his build, he... It's exciting because you're like, that's my fat uncle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my fan aunt.

So it's like he's not a professional athlete in any other capacity. But in baseball, he built his hand-eye coordination. Maybe he's born with it and the coordination all that, but in his glove works amazing. especially at third. But baseball is different where, you know, say Kevin Durant want to play baseball, it ain't happening. Derek Rose, it ain't happening. But it's just not their thing.

But baseball is a thing where you can't just pick up the bat and be instantly the stud right away. It takes a lot of reps, a lot of dedication in order, especially you start moving like travel ball teams. Like right now at 10, there's some kids who are outliers. Are they bigger than Tiger? No. Stronger?

No. Faster? No. More athletic? Nope. But their dads have them hitting every single day, working with a coach doing glove work every single day. They've put in the hours where maybe the kid's not the most athletic,

but when it comes to dedication and glove time and cage time, they're in there more than anybody. So right now they're balling. But eventually those athletes, if they stick with it, Because I think baseball and MMA are similar where even if you're a great athlete, you're just not going to come in and beat up pro-level guys. It doesn't work. Look at Greg Hardy.

Yeah. Hardy's a really exceptional athlete. All-pro. So you have to put in the time for the technique and the execution. Like you're not just going to be like, well, I ran a 4-4-40 so I can beat Tom Assel. I can't. No, I remember training. Do you see what I'm saying?

I know. It's a long, it's just, those are two of the sports where it's like, you can be a freak, but you have to constantly work on it, and it's, the technique is, it's different than the other sports. There's American baseball is because I understand, as a huge fan, I still understand if you're not, going to a baseball, you're like, this is fucking boring. NFL on Sunday, you're like, I don't even like football, but Jesus Christ, that was a mate, what I just saw was, and of course, NBA basketball, the athleticism. and the excitement that can do.

Baseball can be very, very boring. But if you love it, you love it. And here's one of the aspects of what I love about baseball is, like you said, I mean, Fernando Valenzuela is the perfect example. There's, he was a great human being on top of being a Sy Young level pitcher. He was a freak. But also, it was awesome that you're like, your fat out of shape uncle was dominating. Yeah.

There was something you connect with. There's something that disconnects you from seeing Francis Engano because you're like, well, I'm not like, oh, oh, it's not for me. Like Fernando's fucking torching dudes, and he looks literally like the guy who just, like, delivered Tamales. Yeah. And, but also, you can't, there's, there's all these stories in other sports. There's the Christian Akoye's and the Hakimelaj ones where they find freak athletes. And I would put Angano in that category as well.

They find really talented athletes, and they make them football players. They make them basketball players. They make Dekembe Matumbo. They're like, I know you've never seen a basketball. We can do this, though. We can't play baseball. I can't play baseball. There's nothing when you're like.

either you got it or you don't. You got to pick up, you got to put the time in, and it takes a lot timing and technique and repetition. And some kids are like, and that's why 75% of kids quit baseball at the age of 13. Because at 13, that's when it gets really serious. And it's like, oh, I haven't put the time. And it's like those other kids did, blah, blah.

And there's nothing we can do. And it becomes unenjoy. I would say right around eighth grade is where you start to see like the little league crowd kind of die off because it becomes even if you're not good, It becomes really unfun at that point. Yeah, unless your parents kind of know what's up and they're like, you know, just stick and wreck and they still have fun. I would say it's even younger now because travel ball has become such a business.

Yeah, I was good. That's a good point. I was good. I was good. And 10, like the amount of work my son has to do for the team that he's on and the constant tournaments, it's like, okay. Things have changed for sure. That's a good. Things are different.

I was good. And in high school, I played with a lot. I played with on my high school team and then also amongst like travel teams and stuff. I played with a lot of major league baseball players. Like I agree in a part of Southern California where it was really a big deal. California's the hub for MLB, by the way. And it was and it was like still, I played with a lot of guys, like really talented baseball players.

And I didn't start playing travel ball like Colt and Babe Ruth and stuff until I was like 14 or like 13 or 14. And that's really what it should pick up. Nowadays, it's like, it's like what soccer was started to become in the 90s where kids are playing on club teams at like seven. And you're like, oh, well, my whole life, that's baseball's transitioned into that. Yeah, and it's not great. And if you talk to any of like the pro pros, like Chipper Jones, who's all time great

for Atlanta Braves, even on Tiger's team, there's big time. There's some big time pros pitching the World Series stuff like that. And one of the pros father was there, and he was his coach. and so he's so knowledgeable on the game. He coached it. His son was a 10-year pro pitcher monster. And so I talked to him about it. He's a small town in Texas.

Coach baseball all his life, coached his son. And I said, when did you know Clay was going to be a pro? He goes, at seven. I go, what? He goes, I was coaching teams and we put him out there with the older kids. And I was, he goes, I was into the team. I wasn't really giving him a ton of attention. And my wife, he's like, who.

calls the shot she's like you need to start putting time into him and he's like okay well let's get him out there see what happens so he gets him out there he's doing a drill and like his wife was like we got one yeah i was like at seven he's like yes and i go and was clay like on travel teams and like doing he goes no no no he goes it's a business now it's a business so people can take basically take advantage of these parents where like oh my son needs to be on this elite team to play division one or my son needs to be in this big you know showcase tournament's like, no, he doesn't. If you're good enough, they'll find you. It's kind of what college became, right around our era of high school, where then you had like the specialized

tutors and then kids would start prepping to get into college in like freshman year. Like that's how, like, smart people in the 60s, they were just like, well, this guy, this guy's smart. He's going to go to a good college. And then he went to law school if he wanted to go to like. Now they start kind of like preparing for things that are just, should be. the next logical staff. And it's not good. No, I don't know.

It's not good. And then the, the evolution we're seeing of this is because, like, there's a kid on, not on our team, on another team where I know the dad and I'm like, hey, where's, where's, you know, Andrew at? He's like, oh, he reaches pitch limit for the year. That's getting crazy. Oh, and we're in, you know, we're in April. There's six more tournaments for the year.

I'm like, well, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, he threw over a thousand pitches this year. like oh Jesus Christ man he's like yeah so let's shut him down he'll only hit I'm like this isn't good so what's going to start happening we're seeing it now is the level of participation at the high school level is down because kids are getting burnt out throwing their arms out you can filter it out early yeah it's too they're burning the candle too hard where by the time they get to high school like fuck this I'm out that makes sense and that makes sense and scouts don't like it either like the pros are like no no we don't want a kid who has too many minds

house. Yeah. You know? And it also, like, it also, anything much like that, that college prep that starts now in middle school, it also, it's just another thing that's adding to kids not being able to be kids. Agree. I was talking to these kids. They go to UT and they're good, I like them. They're good kids.

I trained jujitsu with, and they're like good kids. And they were talking to me about, like, they don't go to parties and they don't go to bars and stuff. And I was like, you, aren't you 19? and he's like, yeah, like, now's the time. Don't you want pussy? Yeah. Like, I was walking over broken glass to get to wherever girls would be.

He's like, yeah, but I kind of go on my phone. Oh, no, no, no. And I was making fun of them, right? And I, but then I left and I was driving, I was like, dude, if I was 19 and I could just take bongloads and sit with my friends and then also interact with chicks and play PlayStation, that's exactly what I do. I get it. That's exactly what I do.

It's not good, but I get it. But they're not being forced to go, but. And, like, talking to my daughter's friend, my daughter's in seventh grade. And I was talking to my daughter's female friends. And they were bitching and moaning me kind of jokingly about the boys at their school, you know. And I'm picking on and making fun of both the boys and the girls because I know the boys at my daughter's grade. I was like, they were like getting fist fights or anything. Like they're like, no.

Like they were like indignant. I was like, no bullies. He's like bullies. And then like a kid draws a line in the sand. and they're like, no. And I sure enough, I go, I pick him up, man, everyone's like this. And I'm like, man, you need to be kids, you know? Like, so needs to bully somebody here.

Yeah, and I'm not, by no means, am I encouraging violence or, but there was a thing that's like, that guy sucks. And I've been pushed too far and like, I'm going to stand up for me. Maybe I'm asking. Or vice versa. Maybe I'm being like complete. I was, you know, like any 13 year old, I didn't have a sense of like how much I might be hurting in other kids' feelings.

And it's like, dude, you got to cross a certain line. Then you get taught a lesson and you put your foot in your mouth. And, and that's how. you, there's no books that can equate to that, you know? But I would say it's more like Tiger had an issue with a bully and he says, what would you do, dad?

I go, I would have punched him right in the mouth. And Tiger did that. Now, if this is back where Tiger went to school in L.A., he'd been expelled for the year, kicked out, I'd have to come in. Parents might have filed police reports. There might be actionable, yeah. In Texas, they're like, you're good.

Kid deserved it. He's, they're like, he's known for it. We're glad Tiger's stuff. up from South. I was like, oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, this is Texas. Yeah.

Yeah. And there's something to that. And I think, look, I was getting asked, I did Sean Johnson's podcast here. He was a really nice guy. And he was a Navy SEAL. He's the macho kind of real alpha Chad, like a real alpha, not like what the internet tries to create. You're like a legit tough guy.

He's a, he's a fucking Navy SEAL. Yeah, that term gets thrown around a little too much. Can't really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And we were talking about that. And I was saying that. He asked me, why did I mean, why did I move to Texas from California. And I said, I'm not going to be like every other coastal guy that moves to Texas or Tennessee or Florida and then talk shit about, I go, I love L.A. I love it. I love it. It's my culture and my friends and my family's and I love a lot of the same. I said, but the thing I love and the one besides the people top tier is the reason why Texas

is better. The people here are fucking amazing. They're awesome. But I think which is correlated to is like that whole since the beginning of this state, since it was its own country is there's this idea of personal freedom it's like okay handle it on your own live as you want to live and that's it and as you're pointing out like a fist fight in school even if the kid deserved it in californ there's going to be so much red tape about it here they're like well okay well maybe that kid shouldn't be such a fucking asshole correct you know and i was like oh fuck that i'm going to do with the dad and the dad literally was like yeah man hope my kid learned a lesson i was like oh really yeah yeah no doubt

comment no doubt i i have the best example of how now granted where i moved from in los angeles was a was a very exaggerated cartoonish environment i lived in venice and you're very familiar it's like venice is there's nothing it's insane it's an insane it's a special place there's like berkeley venice beach california and there's these little spots uh you know boise's becoming like it's just this weird cordillane idaho where they're they're peculiar you feel like you stepped on a set of a of a movie. But my wife used to go on that like next door type apps where it's like the neighborhoods going on.

Oh yeah. You know? So in Venice. I'm involved in that. Yeah. It's kind of fun. You know, but my wife would, almost on a daily basis, I'd come home from whatever I was doing.

And my wife would be like, oh, there's a neighbor on, you know, on Dell or in Rose, there's a, there's a lurker and that the suspicious character and the girls are talking about maybe they need to call the police and the, the, the week. moved to Texas. My wife was on a Facebook group that the neighbors who welcomed us, they came and they welcomed us. They're like, welcome to the neighborhood, blah, blah, blah, like local farms. The week we moved, she started this Facebook group to be in, in contact with these girls. There was a, there's this suspicious dude walking down Adrian Way. We need to, and every person, by you, I just got a new 38. I'd love him to try that. Oh, he needs to step on on on my property.

That'd be fantastic. You encourage you. No discussion. No, no. Of calling the cops. No discussion of handle this. My husband's walking out to the street. He's going to take care of it. He's, don't worry, Todd's going to deal with this guy. And I was like,

I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. This is sick. Yeah, I'm on like those citizen apps and all that shit. I just love looking at and seeing if there's any, you know,

like weird people in the neighborhood or whatever. When we were in L.A., I would say three, four weeks before we left, I'm on the app. And this guy, probably like six, seven houses down.

gets murdered. Decapitated. Good times. Okay. Yeah. And this is how numb you are in LA, like, especially after the fires and after COVID, home invasion in my neighborhood was up 700%. So I'm like one of only maybe two coaches whose houses didn't get robbed, right?

And so there's robberies and crime happening nonstop in the hood in our neighborhood, nonstop. But I'm so used to, I'm like, damn, that's crazy. And it's pretty wild shit. But I'm like, but it's so common. Like, oh, damn. That's great. Hopefully he's all right.

All right. Damn, decapitate. That's wild. And I just keep going. Keep going. I come here. I get on the same app. And they're freaking out.

Oh, yeah, Decafatee. Medieval Times. Yeah. It's gang related. I think cartels shit. But then here, it's like the only thing I see is like, did anybody get the license plates of that cyber, that black cyber truck going way too fast down the neighborhood? I'm like, oh.

buddy oh buddy where I come from a guy got decapitated there is the oh that's cute conversation where you have and I used to get mad at New York New Yorkers a very older generation

of New Yorker would move to L.A. usually working in the entertainment industry and they were always telling you about like ah well back at home they don't do that kind of thing it's easier it's you know if you're from Long Island that just becomes easy because you don't have to deal with all this pussy California shit all day they have a bit you know

but now I find myself doing it. I was in an Uber and we were in traffic on the freeway and he's like, oh, yeah, well, traffic starting to get so bad out here. I just don't know what to do. And I was like, oh, that's cute. Because I was coming back from, I was coming from the airport where I just got back from LA just on the 405. And I was like, getting LAX.

Five seconds later, he goes like, yeah, man, and this homeless problems, he was like, oh, buddy. What's cute, buddy. I get it. But that's his, but that's all he knows. No, it's true. That's all he notes, you know. The homeless problem in L.A. now has gotten to, I think I'm living in a simulation.

Like, what are we do? Like, I remember the first time I saw factory farming, like, up close where I was, I was like, what are we? We can't, this can't be how we just live our, like, we can't just treat animal. Like, what the fuck are we doing? And you see Skid Row, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, time out. Yeah. What are we doing? We're all cool with this.

This is insane. And it's been that way for how long? I doubt at least 20 years. Yeah, but now it's, it's gone too fast where I think it's too far-fetched to help. It's kind of, like, what are you going to do? To clean it, like, what are you going to do? What the fuck are you going to do? But to be fair, like, and now California has so many more people, especially compared

to Austin and stuff like that. So you're going to, obviously, just through shared numbers and the odds, you're going to have more homeless. So that makes sense. Also the weather. But the weather, too. I remember the day. When's last time we went downtown Austin?

It ain't great. that's true but are you gonna it ain't great but no I'm more when I talk about the weather I think with Southern California is an added loop to the homeless is that you're not gonna fucking die you're not gonna freeze and that yeah that has that speaks a lot

to if you're a homeless person like I'm gonna not die yeah but either way like you're not gonna unless you're in the valley but if you're in like Santa Monica or Venice it never gets too hot never gets too too too cold so it's a fucking dream if you're homeless Florida it gets too hot we're like dude I'm gonna dehydrate senior citizens die. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, yeah. So California is literally like home base. It's a spot. It checks all boxes for homeless. I remember when I moved to Jersey and I, like, the week I was there and I opened up the New York Times and I saw homeless man froze to death. And I was like, what? Like I genuinely, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I was like, oh, that's real.

If you live on the streets, you can die. Yeah. And I'm because of where I came from, that's not. I know. Yeah, it was so crazy. I know. I also think, like, the funny thing about California politics is that they never want to, and I'll defend them, it's ugly, but they never want to actually deal with a problem.

No. Let's, homeless aside, and that's human life. But like, for instance, like traffic got really bad in the 90, you got, it started to escalate to the point where, so they go, let's let motorcyclists go through in between lanes. And you go, first off, hardly 1% of California rides a motorcycle. That doesn't help. Secondly, that's the most insane dangerous shit I've ever heard. None of you who just came up with that bill ride a motorcycle because that's insane.

And the other thing I did, let's create HOV lanes. We got to pay. You got to. You're like, well, that still doesn't help. I go like, wait, isn't anybody, like, is there any civil engineers that came up with this? Or is it just like my mom's friends who were on city council? To be fair to them, too, they're like, the other thing is, there's so many people here. It's just.

What are you going to do? What the fuck are we going to do? They talk about like, we're going to build shelters and we're going to build homes and we're going to be. And maybe their intentions are good. Maybe they have pure motives. But I go like, nah, and maybe I'm just an idiot. I'm just saying I'll be sitting next to Dr. Drew who offered up his services to the city of LA and the state of California. He's like, no, you got to start, I know it sounds horrible.

You've got to start rounding these people up and forcing drug treatment and mental health services on it. Because you can take all the, build all the shelters you want. You can open up the four seasons for them. If you're fucking schizophrenic or addicted to heroin or both, which is a lot of time, you're sunk. You understand these people. You're talking about giving people job opportunities and programs to help them. They think they're Jesus and they're eating feces.

Like this is not, I'm not trying to be a dick. No, they're missing the point. You have lost sight of what's going on. I've been in AA meetings and NA meetings in Venice. where dudes are genuinely continuing to talk about how the CIA is following them with drones and stuff. And I was like, oh, you think you're going to give this guy a room and it's going to help? And everything's going to work out? Yeah.

What do you think of Spencer Pratt running for a governor? I like Spencer personally. Is it mayor or governor? No, governor, right? No, well, actually, no mayor. Mayor of Los Angeles. Yeah, because he's trying to pass his job, right? I think, I got to be honest, I'm not in the business of like just getting on here and talking.

shit, especially about stuff that I'm not all that involved. But I, he'll do just as good, if not better a job than Karen Bass. She's not qualified at all to do anything. Yeah, that's my thing. It's like, people are like, oh, he's not qualified. It's a con. What's your qualifications? What are you talking about?

You think what's Mayor Bass's background? No one's really doing shit. It can't get any worse, really. Literally. And I think this is the same thing why Trump got in. People are sick of politicians. They never fall through on what they're going to do. So I think they're like, let's mix it up.

Get Trump in here who doesn't have a background in this shit. Let's see how it goes. Now, whatever you say about that, I'm just saying, I think that's a big reason why he won. I think Spencer Pratt's pretty similar. We're like, right, Bass isn't working. Newsom's a complete piece of shit, even though he's the governor. Like, why not give this guy a chance who's a man of the people? Now, Trump really isn't a man of the people, but Spencer Pratt is.

No, but Trump, I just finished reading Andrew Jackson's official biography. and I realized, like, he was genuinely, like, the first Trump because there's a, there's a, there's a weird, peculiar kind of detachment that President Trump has, but he's obsessive about effectiveness. Yeah. People will say, yeah, but what about the people who are going to, he's like, yeah, but will it work? Yep. The do it. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you're, you're familiar with the story, but the Ibrahim with Joe.

Oh, yeah. Like, that's insane that he's like, it's done. A day later. And it's like, FDA approved. And Rogue is like, what? I know. It's just all Trump does, and I think that this has been kind of the connection to the success of the right wing in the last couple years, is that they double down on, well, what's going to work? Let's just try to do things that we can safely say this is going to be effective.

And the left is still stuck in what's going to be humane. Yes. And if you give, it's terrible to say, but if you give the general public, the American public, the option of this kind of, this. this triple beam scale of effectiveness and vaguely humane, they're going to side with effectiveness after a long enough time. 100%. With Joe, too, it's like, you know, people that are upset that Joe got, like this probably doesn't get past if Joe didn't get in his air about it.

So the fact, whether you're left or right, none of this matters. If it's saving veterans for, was it, 22 a day commit suicide? It's like if this helps one of them a day, this is a home run. So the problem is with social media, everyone gets polarized and it's my team and my team. But remember, we're all on the same team. We should be. If you're left or right, we should all be on the same team. But people get so polarized to the social media that even with Rogan, oh, fucking Trump.

And, you know, he's Trump's monkey. It's like, well, hold on on. We're saving lives. This is, we all agree whether you're left, right, middle, liberal, whatever the fuck. that's a good thing right yes okay then pick something else to be the war cool let's ride on that but when it comes to rogan influence in trump to pass this law that helps save veterans who fucking keep you free how that's even a thing is to me i go oh god oh my god we've lost our way we've lost our way that's a good point and my my other thing too is with like with the white

House. I said this on the shop show. Is the reason why the UFC is having a fight at the White House because the relationship between Dan and Trump? Sure. Sure. As a fan who's been around the UFC for fucking ever and a UFC alumni and I, you cut my fucking veins and Bob O'Reilly comes out, you know, I live and die for the UFC. Do you remember, you will, I guarantee you, we've talked about this other day, in text. You remember when Forrest Griffin, And Stefan Bottom were fighting and the masses were texting their buddies. And that was on Spike. Do you remember how big of a deal that was for people that love the

MMA? You know that? Now, if I told you, if I told you a week after that happened, I'm like, hey, buddy, you know eventually we're going to put one of these fucking cages at the lawn at

the White House. You'd go, you're fucking crazy. So shut up. Okay, now you're getting out of control. Shut the fuck off. Now that,

Now, this is my thing. Whether you hate Trump, whether you hate Dana, whether you're left, right, liberal, don't get a fuck. All you need to know is the UFC has pulled it off. They're throwing a fucking human cockfight at the lawn of the White House. We've won. It's insane. Dude, if you're an MMA fan, I'm going to fuck you like KSW, Cage Warriors, Risen,

Bellator, PFL. For the sport of MMA, there's not a bigger sign. that your sport has made it. Yeah, but I voted for Kamala. Don't give a fuck. Even if it was Biden, Kamala, if Newsom's in the White House and someone came to me and go,

hey, you know there's a UFC fight at the White House this weekend? I go, fuck yeah. I wouldn't be like, well, I voted the other way. I'm going to go ahead and pass on this one. It's like, oh, dude, you've been compromised. They've won.

Because now your favorite sport in the world, you're so upset that the UFC aligns with Trump, that you're going to miss this huge opportunity for you, for you, because the Trump, the White House, UFC keeps going. It's totally true. And that example is a perfect one. And then the drug addiction, where I was like, you're talking about mental health and addiction. You can't, it's really grossly irresponsible in this country to introduce your political feelings.

Because that is the worst problem we have is mental health and addiction. By far, it doesn't matter if you're the far left woke. The most extreme liberal, if you're a fucking MAGA guy, like, that should be all hands on deck. Whatever is. Because addiction doesn't care if you voted left, right. Doesn't give a fuck. Bernie, you got, you got, you're missing the point. I love that.

I love that aspect of it. Not only addiction, but recovery itself is like, I've shared rooms with insanely famous celebrities that people bow down and throw rose pedals at their feet. I've been in there with plenty of homeless people, gangbangers, dudes who spent most of their life in jail, law enforcement, military, big hippies. And it's like, it doesn't, it doesn't discriminate. They don't give a fuck. They don't care who you voted for.

And it's pretty, to color your skin, your religion, how much money you make, none of that matters. And it goes the opposite direction too. If your kid has a problem, like he's going to die unless you get him help regardless of who you voted for. 100%. And it's, and like people, need to get past that.

Because we're on these teams and the system has won. That's what they want. They want us divided. And if you're, again, it's a small example because there's much bigger issues, but if you're going to skip the UFC White House card because you are anti-Trump, you're missing the point. You're missing the fucking point. And but then there's people that don't talk to the parents because they're, you know,

left or right. It's like, do you know how in, hold on. The woman that gave. life to you because she voted for Kamala Harris you decided not to talk to anymore. I hate to tell you Bubba no matter who the fuck's in there it's going to be a shit show. You've lost your way man. You've lost your way. Anybody who we genuinely want to be president wouldn't want to do it.

No. Anybody who's like wildly mature emotionally intelligent and smart. They'd be like well fuck that. No, that sounds insane. Yeah, you don't have your shit together run for politics. dude. It's not good. That concerns me the most, too, is like, I have

many close friends, not many, four, I can think of off the top of my head. Some of them, like, celebrities used to come on love line pretty frequently that are politically active, and then, like, my friends, close friends, who kind of took a step back in the private sector because they wanted to get into politics

to make a difference. And every one of them, whether they're extreme, like the entertainment industry people, I know that they're extremely liberal, or their, like, pictures of Reagan on their wall, like Wally George, they all say the same thing. They're like, oh, there's no, there's no hope. If you really want to, like, do good, there's no, it's not, it's not for you.

The system's so, how you do it. Yeah, the system's, how you do it. Wait, what? Yeah, the system's so compromising, it's so dirty. It's like you, and even if you want to get on your podcast or social media and rant and rave, you're not going to do shit, dude. It's just, it's not going to get it done. you're barking into the either it's not

you're focused on the wrong thing man and like I'll see especially some of these baseball dads where I'll go man do you see you see you always ask him about Rogan I go do you see him at the White House and I'm like no what happened like they're not they're busy they're construction workers they're blue caught they're like wait what no what the fuck no what happened

a lot of a lot of times especially nowadays with social media being what it is you see these people who are very vocal and by the way this isn't a partisan statement it goes in both directions the people who are so adamant and vocal and putting up 55 posts on their facebook page or their or their tic-tok and then you see these people getting assaulted at college campuses it's like it's like 19-year-old kids or people with no life but because people typically would like their own children or like jobs and like you kind of can only get caught up

and so much shit because the problem is the monetization of it so you know on tic talk or if you're on youtube and you're getting that dopamine release where you're getting all these views and interactions not only that which is going to make you down just be more down and do more content but then you're also making money off of it that's getting attention to that's attention that's the problem so no hold on like and i get it i'm not blame these people these people that do that stuff I agree. You know, that they're giving these hot takes and they're fucking posted nine times a day and it's, you trump this or come all of that.

I get it. But it's also, that's how they're making money. That's how they're staying relevant. And it's like, we've created this monster. And then people are like, God, I can't believe someone would do that. Then you get a life. It's like, man, the system kind of set them up where they can make more money doing this than working their ass off at a construction site.

It's not good. Just like with the not going to parties and the college kids, All I ever did good in life was because I was so scared that I'm, I didn't, I wasn't scared. I knew I was a fucking loser. Yeah. And I was so scared that I was going to continue to be a loser. Yeah. And I had to do anything to not do that.

Yeah. If I had a fucking phone with the internet and, and social media and I could make something of myself where people would give me attention and a couple bucks. How can you not? By going, these woke idiots and then clip farming and finding other people's clips and then just sitting in my bedroom and doing that. that's all i errant that's all i would devote my life to is talking shit and that and that's what's

going on with it it's like you know people do clips and they take things so out of context and all that like horrible shit about me and people send me like man you see this and like man you should shut this down like i get it that's how that guy makes money it's just he's a he's just uh part of the system right that that we've created where it's not good and then on top of that here's a there's a very very very narrow margin up the creme to the cram who are actually really good at it who make like shit talking videos of whether be comics or actors or woke celebrities or politicians and i was like bro i mean that's almost like artwork you know that's my like that's our dude with a lot of them i'm like clearly you have skills bubba but if you go to them you're like man just do something

positive or give a take on this uh because they clearly know how to edit and put it all together and thumbnails and all this shit i'm like man if you just do that this for good, but if you go to them, they're like, if it's something positive, I'm not making money. I make money. That's true. Negative clicks. I'm like, I get it. That's the game. I get it. And it's, by the way, because if it's something positive, you don't make money, you don't get attention. Totally true. But I think that that tricks us into thinking if it's negative, that's more, more representative of how the world is. Yeah, and it's not. No, both mainstream media and social media is driven by negative stories, because

that's what intrigues us. And I'm guilty of it saying, I love, you know, if I see a video, if there's a video of, uh, firefighter saves drowning,

uh, dog from drowning. And there's, watch this one punch KO from fuck around and find out, guy gets knocked out. And I'm like, almost always I'm leaning towards the guy gets knocked out. Yeah,

but I think to your point too, it's like if, if, if your YouTube algorithm, you know, I watch a lot of baseball shit. So if it says, Otani,

greatest player ever. I'm like, yeah, I know what's that shit. And then the next one pops up. And O'Tani, it's him. And he has, like, red eyes. And it's like the dark history of O'Tani, why he's a piece of shit.

I'm like, I better better be able to check that out. And I know it's not. I know it's clickbait and it's propaganda. But I'm like, let's just see what the fuck this is. Because it's different and it's dark. You're totally right. And it's not good. But that tricks us into thinking that that's the way the world is.

Correct. But do this for me. Any of you who are watching and listening. Like, really go back. back and think of when someone, a stranger was genuinely outwardly mean to you. And. Very rare. Unless you're, okay, unless you're living at home, it's happened.

But I can think of maybe like one hand worth of the. Now, if you really tried to take notice on a day-to-day basis, how many times someone holds a door for you, how many times of a random strangers be like, oh, that's a nice shirt. Or let you in when you're trying to merge. Or like, uh, when someone, everyone has these bad, horrible things in the, in the, in their head, the meatheads like us in the back of their mind of when someone was a fucking asshole at the gym and they took up too much space with it. But I've lost count of how many times people would be like, uh, would you like to work in or let me wipe that down for you or can

I help you with the plates and you're just like, oh, thank you stranger. But to your point, I think that's what's wrong with the younger generations because when they're coming up and it's so negative of everything so dark and negative like, oh, I guess this is the world. Because they don't have the perspective. They haven't lived and had as many years on the planet as us and gone out in public and all this stuff. So if they're just, you know, in their basement or they're talking their friends online, they're like, man, the world's just negative. It's like, nah, buddy, you got touch graphs.

Go, you get off here. This isn't, this is a small sector of what's really going on. Kevin, from Kevin and B. And I used to do a show called Great News. And it was because we got so going to upset about the fact that that seemed to drive all forms of news mainstream to social media. And we were going to do, we're going to do a news show, but only positive stories, right? and of course as we

what we mentioned before doesn't drive a lot of engagement so it didn't end up being very successful but at the same time there was something else that I noticed that if you go online with the intention of searching happy uplifting stories there was literally too much

like if you do the work to get past the what's on the front I couldn't feasibly narrow down the stories to do one show because I had too many amazing stories I was like but I got to tell the story about the, about the guy who laid down on a

broken bridge to save a senior citizen. No, I got to do the person who walks around for free, like cleaning up disabled veterans yards and blowing their lawn. There's just so much of it. But I'm a victim of it too. It's like, you know,

I don't set the description of the thumbnails like on the shop show. You know, we're doing this whole relaunch into the big ground breakdown and going back and doing all this extra stuff. And I go through the titles and I'm like, and it's all negative. It's like the issue with Dana White, why Rhonda should stop fighting. I'm like, the corruption of the UFC.

Yeah, it's like the UFC has fallen. And I'm like, that wasn't, that wasn't my take. That's not what I said. Like maybe I brought attention to it, but overall the message is how great everything is. And then, you know, Nick who does, he's like, that's your views have never been higher. I'm like, ah. I see it in a negative way too. No, no, no.

It's all kind of. But I get the game. I get the game. but I see, like, I've seen video as some, like, a real passionate fan. I see that now with, like, even the most successful kind of content creators, it's like, was Khabib really a fraud? And it'll show him, like, getting smashed in, like a, like a blurry video of him, like, in some and bottom position.

And then I watch a video and I was like, that's not even what this is about at all. Like, once you, you pulled one clip of Chale saying, well, if there's any flaw in his game, It's his take down defense, not against the cage or something. And that's what they built this. He's a fraud. It's like, wait a second. As soon as you clicked on, they've won. Yeah, they win.

That's all because if they're like, well, you know, even in all the videos, when it goes to like, it's like, why John Jones is the biggest cheat of all time. You click on it. And like the first 30 seconds is the guy's like, well, it's not that. And they don't have examples, but you clicked on it, they got paid. So they're based like, gotcha. It's snake oil. There's a dark metal.

group named Cradlef. And they're successful in that genre. They're not the foo fighters, obviously. But Cradle of Fulf is like a successful band. I've heard of them. And they used to have a shirt that said, Jesus is a cunt. You know, because like the death metal grind core world,

they all do the extreme logos and extreme. And I heard the lead senior talking about. He's like, I know that that's probably the most offensive. He's like, but I was going for that. He's like, if I get you to even take click on that and notice it and have a new story, And then that news story feeds to someone. And then someone goes out and buys that shirt because of it because they were never fucking aware of it.

But because Bill O'Reilly talked about it on Bill O'Reilly show tonight, he's like, I win. And our people find it. I was like, dude, you're ahead of the game. This is like 1990s. Well, it's like MC Hammer, you know, he got so famous. He also had a lot of haters. He said the number one selling shirt he had his entire time touring. They didn't know it, but he created shirts that said MC Hammer sucks.

He was my number one selling shirt. He goes, I don't give a fuck. MC Hammer, very nice man. He's the best. Do you know where you got his name? You're a sports fan? MC Hammer. He was a ball boy for the Oakland A's.

He was a bad boy for the Oakland A's. And he looked so much like Hammer and Hank Aaron. Yeah. That's true. And you could see that too, by the way. But he stole that from Primus. Primus has been doing Primus sucks since like 1989. Really?

Yes. Still. Good move. But, you know, like, I just don't have that in me. And people have like, oh, for the Reddit, making a shop, sucks, sure. I'm like, I don't know. would I like the extra money? Sure. I just, that's just not what I do.

I don't want to contribute to that, man. You know? I agree. And it gets really bad to when I see content. Now I will take a partisan sign on this because I remember when Bill Clinton had a heart attack, a pretty serious one. And he had, it was right after he was not in office. I think it was like 2001 or something.

And Rush Limbaugh stopped what he was doing. and flew to his bedside. And he's like, listen, I made a career out of talking shit. And he was like, but this has crossed the line. Yeah. You were the president. Make sure. Sent, um, sent flowers to Hillary, the whole thing.

But also he made his money off that. And also, so he should be grateful to Bill, too. Like, thank you. I have seen a handful of extreme shit posters who are doing the, Rob Reiner shouldn't talk shit about. President Trump, he deserved it kind of thing. And I'm like, whoa, what do we do? But I've seen thousands of videos of people making fun of Charlie Kirk.

And I'm like, isn't it wild? Dude, you can compromise. Oh, you lost your. Feel free to have your feelings about policy, but what are we, you've lost. What are you doing? Yeah, you've got, you've lost, you've lost the game. And I, you know how if there's a thing like, you're out. Yeah.

That's you. If you're celebrated a death of a father, no matter what. And by the way, he's not Osama bin Laden. He's had, he had opinions you didn't like. I get that. Sure. But what are you doing? Death?

Like, in public, like crazy vogue and horrible assassinated. Man, glad that happened. It's like, oh, you've lost your way. And anybody doing that or celebrating that? It's like, nobody I know who's worth shit talks like that. Even, and I know people that didn't like Charlie Kirk at all. Yeah. I listen to the show.

I like Charlie. But it's like anybody that celebrate that, um, mostly. the time they're unhappy in their own shit they're just you've lost it man and that that's the biggest red flag to me whenever anybody celebrates anything like let's say you have this tv show and for a reason to get picked up and someone goes fuck yeah glad the thing you get picked up it's like you've lost yeah you've lost it you've lost your way there's no way you're doing good in life i think people transitioned from like how they feel about bill cosby and harvey winestein and

like i said like off the random off top like osama bin laden or something. Like, now they're doing that for people that they're just not that into. Yeah. You know, like, I don't like his music. I was like, what are we doing here? Yeah, when people are like, Taylor Swift sucks. You're like, sure, sure. You know that you don't have to play her music on Apple, right? It's not, I can understand if it was a law where you have to listen to Taylor Swift, then, man, there's going to be some backlash. When you have the freedom to literally choose what the fuck you want to listen to, but you decide to just make comments about

this whatever is podcast or comedian you don't have to listen to it no one's forcing you that's another thing too is that people have lost to say and this is i do think this is not their fault i think this is the kind of the modern trend of media people have lost the ability to kind of stay on topic and what i mean by that is like i was talking to a look to show you that i'm not this isn't a partisan thing i was talking to a friend of mine at jiu jitsu who's very right wing and he's kind of a well-known, not Tim, he's kind of a well-known personality. So, but he were my name is, and he was, like, talking about Kamala Harris. And we were talking about the failure of her campaign. I was on board. I'm listening. Interesting. And he's like, blah, blah, blah, blah,

ugly woman or ugly bitch. And I was like, bump your brakes. She's like, she's pretty attractive. Yeah, yeah. Like, she's actually a pretty beautiful. Top ten of all time. Yeah. She's a moron. She would be the best looking president ever if she was, if she had won. Not even remotely close. And I I actually made a clip about this one. Don Lemon talking shit about Megan Kelly. I go, okay, you're a news broadcaster.

You don't like Megan Kelly. Talk shit, but then he goes, yeah, she's chopped. Because it was like young, hip interviewers. They were young, like college age. And they're like, do you think Megan Kelly's chopped? We think she's chopped. And he's like, what does that mean? They're like, ugly, but.

And she's like, oh, yeah, she's super chopped. I was like, he's a gay man. Pump the brakes. Yeah. If you disagree with her, you don't think she's good or job. I'll listen to you. Megan Kelly's a lot of things.

Gorgeous. She's so fucking hot in person, like, it's uncomfortable. She's stunning. Oh, my God. That'd be the worst take you can do. Like,

you can beat her up on some of her politics of it. That's fine. Yeah. But when you start going for looks like, oh, buddy. And I go like, but again, you've lost your way. People can't stay on top.

You've lost your way. You've lost it. That's not real. Kamala Harris, you do like, I think she's, I mean, her campaign should be studied on what,

not to do. I agree. As far as physical attractiveness, as soon as you go, oh, she's this ugly, you're out. No need to. I'm not even to talk with you.

No, you've lost it. You've lost the narrative. I saw it in the opposite direction of where these college girls, now granted, maybe they were motivated by other things, and I'm trying to be nice about it, but they were talking about how Michelle Obama is this elegant,

uh, amazing queen. And that, Melania could learn things because she's and I was like okay listen Michelle Obama is quite smart and I have nothing negative to say

but if we're going to talk looks oh buddy what are we doing here like why are we but it's so crazy you just can't stay on top of it you can't have that yeah oh wow I can't talk to you

oh wow it's like we're playing street fighter two and I fucked you up I'm crushing you I'm doing like quadruple all you kids. And I was like, this is like how I'd fuck you up in the ring. Like, why do we have, like, why are you extrapolating to stuff? Like this doesn't apply. And that's not true. Yeah. Like I understand Michelle Obama was much more charismatic and intelligent than Melani. And she's more beautiful. And you're like, mm, this is now you're, this is where I get off

the box. Yeah. Now, this is where I get off the crazy. But it destroys everything else you just said, which might have been true. I know. You're fucked up. Yeah. You fucked up. What do you got, chinsder all right um the first one is this marathon thing with nike oh nike so this is what they put on their this is their slogan for the marathon runners welcome walkers tolerated what is bad about that um people are upset about it saying so so remember remember like nike when they came out the gate go go to uh nike's old mark like running marketing so this is like this is very nice how they came out where it's like runners welcome walkers tolerated it's the Boston marathon the Super Bowl of marathons yeah Boston is the that's what marathon runners

and so and the people who join it just to walk are like man this is discrimination against walkers you make it off so Nike took it down so and if you notice this so Nike's not doing well they're not doing well they're stocks low because Nike decide to side with kind of this woke agenda and go that direction. And so they change us to a Boston will always remind you moving as what matters. Like, whoa, what happened to just do it? Like, they used to be pretty hardcore in that sense. And then also, kids aren't, our business has changed.

We're an offense all time. You can go to some of their old stuff. There's a ton of examples. Nike being, you know, in the early, by the way, the whole brand of Nike founded on running. So it's not like they don't have a stake in this. They were built on track running. and distance running. And they were known.

You remember when we were little kids, they were the edgy aggressive in your face, like the Spike Lee, Michael Jordan's like aspect of just you. That's what Just Do it was. And we're not going to talk a lot. It's like, go, go hard or go home. That was their,

and I feel like it's almost insulting that they would allow their company to kind of, Because what walking tolerated It's a race It's talking shit on people who are showing up to a race to go slow To walk it's not talking shit about people who enjoy walking No Do you understand that? Like this is getting out of fucking control

It's just softening society We're like as long as you finish like no bitch This is one the biggest Marathons in the world And the guy that's finishing What the fuck is pay shaming If you and I went today With their team

But by the way Austin area is very well known For like endurance sports There's probably people I think Lance Armstrong led to that But there's a lot of people training and biking Rowing and running out By Zilker Park probably

And you and I were like Hey guys let's let's go And they were a really competitive running team And within 400 yards We're pulling behind them Yeah I would hope they'd be like What the fuck are with you?

Meat Hedges I know slow ass fox I would hope But the thing is, but then Nike, they blame, they've done this more, they've gotten more woke than anyone, and they're an athletic brand. Athletes in general, hate to tell you guys, your favorite football player, baseball player, UFC athlete tend to lean more towards the right. It's just what, it just makes sense. So Nike went away from that, so you have less guy signing with Nike. You have more competition in the space with new balance and all these other brands.

And then Nike, because of their lower stock and all the shit, they blame it on basketball. Like, well, basketball doesn't have the same stars. That's why we're not selling as many shoes. It's like, no, there's more competition in the market. And these other brands aren't bending the knee to the woke mob, who, A, isn't buying your shoes anyways. Because most of the, you've seen a woke person in shape? Very rich.

So it's like, the people that you're satisfying by taking this down aren't even buying your fucking product. All you're doing is pissing off the masses that actually buy fucking. and shoes. Now they're sure's fuck not buying them. I will say though, basketball does drive sneaker culture. 100%. And

the NBA, not lately. The NBA, no, not lately, but because I don't think it's not because of Nike not making good sneakers or this or that. I think it's because basketball as a whole has lost its understanding of how to connect with the face. Correct. And so

who was it? God damn it. It may have been Gilbert Arenas again, but I saw another one of these clips where they said what do you talk about like Jordan used to talk about how he loved magic but he's like I don't want to be on magic's team yeah I want to compete against correct I like seeing I'm not going to go join magic

I'm gonna beat Matt bird he's to talk he's like I love urban Magic Johnson I love him he's a great man I want to beat his ass I don't want to be on his team yeah and these super teams change the culture they've turned it into like being on the Avengers where it's like let's get Thor and let's get them just beat the shit everyone like it's the reckless And there was a, there was something to being a kid. Competition.

And watching Bill Limberra and Isaiah Thomas come in and watching those Knicks team and certainly the Celtics, you would see, I'm not talking about like they'll bring in a goon off the bench. Fucking Michael Cooper Magic Johnson, James Worthy would get in a fucking fist fight with Larry Bird and Robert Parrish. And you're like, and they're boys. And they're boys. Yeah.

Crazy. You know, like the crowd with you. And there's a. clip of Kobe hitting a game winning shot and he pulls his jersey like this and he points to it. And after the game in the press conference, he was like, it's all about, he's like, I'm in charge out there, but it's about the Lakers. I'm in charge because I want the Lakers. This is the front of my jersey, not the back. And I just think that that's like, can we realistically, I'm a diehard Laker fan, but can we realistically be like LeBron bleeds gold and purple? No, no, LeBron breeds

LeBron. Yeah, yeah. LeBron. Yeah. And I think. As long as long as. LeBron gets 50, he's good. Michael Jordan might assassinate someone if they got in the way of the Bulls win. Like he might kill a person. But it's just, I think it's the changing of the culture where it's like, including in pro sports where it's like that one-on-one, that the dog, that competition, people are kind of shine away from like, as long as he's participating, it's like, no, no, we're here to win, man.

And it starts in the youth sports. Like, I see it all the time. That's why baseball's increased, by the way. Clearly, global Otani and other Asian, Korean and Japanese players, it's hell. Rocking right now.

Rocking. Another reason why baseball's gone is that, believe you me, if you have, you hide the microphones and go in the Dodger locker room and talking about the Padres

or the giant, like, they'll be like, fuck those guys. And they might do some chin music and it might come inside. They might plug a guy. You see the fight like two weeks old? Yes, yeah.

The Angels and, uh, I forget who it was Washington Yes No Cleveland Indians Yeah

It's Indians to us I refuse to call them The Indians Nope By the way Because they had They had the sickest Fucking logos

The best I still have The branding Like the Cleveland Indians Was sick Yeah The best But

But that was a thing The 70s 80s Like the teams Mattered And Dodger fans Fucking

Hated the Giants Like you You were Like it was a legitimate Giants poders. And Dodger players hated the fucking and now it's like

well I might get traded next few years. Did you see rushing for the Dodgers last night? Yeah. So Russia. I saw, I saw a breakdown.

So Russian's bawling. Yeah. So he's the backup to Will Smith who happens to be probably the best catch in the league. Offensively for sure. Rushing's a beast. If I'm rushing,

I think his salary, he's making like $750 grand a year. He's on a low salary. He could be a starter anywhere else to be a superstar. So they got to figure that out. He's such a huge. good player. If you really go down the rapid hole, look at that motherfucker lifting in college.

You're like, holy shit. He's one of my faves. But last night, they lost three to one. Yoshi, the first ending gave up three runs. On heard of. I'll six my brother. I'm like, is it upside down day? What the fuck is going on? They lit them up. I'm like, what the fuck is he shuts it down, right? But one of the, and this is why I'm like, yes and no, like me and my son watching game, I'm like yes and no, like you need some of that dog and you, Russian's a young, full of fucking vinegar player, balling right now. When the guy slides in and he gets hurt. And I think Russian tagged them out.

And he walks out and he looks back and the guys like calling his knee and goes, fuck them. And walks the dugout. Now, now, bad sportsmanship? Sure. Was that meant to be hurt for everyone? No. No. But if you want that motherfucker on your team is my point.

And by the way. I told my son, he's like, dad. What did he say? I go, he said, fuck him. Because they're in the middle of a game,

dude. So it's, fuck all of them, Bubba. Let me make this very clear. He didn't slide into second cleats up

and take a guy out. No. And then he's like, fuck him. All right, what are you? A bond villain? Yeah.

The guy slid fucked up and he was just trying to make it and hurt himself. Yep. He's not on my team. Fuck him. Yeah, he went. I go, yeah, good for you.

You see him. Fuck him. It was pretty safe. I was like, brush his shoulders off. He's like, fuck him. He gives me chills. Like, yeah, I guess this.

I agree. And there was a thing about that. Like, I was really lucky where, especially at the time, like, Love Line in Southern California, I got to do things way outside of my, like, celeb level grade. And one of the things I got to do is I get to play in the Dodgers slash Angels celebrity games, you know, like what a dream. I do. That's, it's awesome.

That's the only good thing about fame. Like, I hope someone reaches out. Like, hey, man, you want playing this baseball all-star game? Not at the MLB level, but just whatever it is. Savannah bananas, where the fuck it is? I have two, so I can bring my kids. I have two games in particular at Dodgers' Stadium that I can tell you. And we could do a whole episode about the stories.

Michael Clark Duncan, who God rest his soul, he's a really nice guy. But he's fucking huge. And he's not huge and gawky. He like has great posture. He looks like this amazing, like a linebacker from a comic book. Yeah. He never played. He was the worst baseball player I've ever seen.

He literally couldn't throw, couldn't put his mid on. I was like, that's baseball, Bubba. There was a Spanish and untouchably hot female Spanish, like, um, uh, telenovela, uh, soap opera. Yeah. Oh, the hottest. She was a star there, okay? And like, of course, all the dudes in Dodgers Stadium are like going crazy.

Yeah. And she's wearing like a teeny little skirt with a Dodgers, Georgia jersey. She hits the ball and runs the third base. And I'm like, skips first and second just no, like it's crazy kickball. Instead of going to... Like, it's crazy kickball. It goes the third. And Kevin, from Kevin of being there,

and I was like, you would think, by the way, she's not from fucking Zimbabwe. Like, you would think in Mexico, she's at least seen baseball enough to know that... But also see the people in front of her. Yeah. Like, when she was laughing.

She was like eight. No, no, she was like the bat and the end. But she was so fucking hot that no one, no one was like, safe. All the Dodger players and everything were like, oh, we go this way. We go this way.

But there wouldn't. Oh, dude, I meant to take you for I forget. This popped up on algorithm. You know there's leagues in Austin, like big time leagues that have the backings of like big companies. Like I want to say like Yeti's behind it, like the big vodka companies out there. They have leagues with dope jerseys and they get together on Sundays and a competitive baseball. Oh, it's on.

I'll send you the thing. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. You and I get out there, Bubba? Yes. When there we go? Yeah. And I saw the thing that got me is they're showing the fields. It looks like Sandlot but for adults.

And then there's kids playing. And then the families are in the back and they have sewn in jerseys. And it's like proper downtown Austin. I'm like, holy fuck. I'm in. I'm so in. Right? Yeah.

The thing that got me in was the jerseys. I'm like, sewn in jerseys? Dude, you're such a hype beast. The thing that got you in was the fucking jerseys. Yeah. Oh, that'll fit perfectly on the door. Some nice jeet. Yeah.

Yeah. Awesome. I'm in. that's right yeah right look look it up look it up dude it's mind-blowing yeah for sure i'm in like i know we could chin come out get some video yeah i'll throw some sweet chin music out i'm coming in like fucking miller from the podre's fucking corn are you hooray have you seen his walk i'm not podre's fan dodgers what that's the homies got the got mother from danzig it's also but yeah i mean oh that's good yeah blind from corn is buddy because the stadium i dude i and how

dominant here? I've been at fucking bananas concert. I've been to a countless slayers slip knot. I saw Dillinger

Escape Plan. There's a video of Dilliger and Skate Plan and playing it Virgin Atlantic records somewhere in the Eastern

Seaboard and I went to see them the night after at this small club and I saw dudes getting their heads broken.

I've been to wild shows. Corn hitting blind at Woodstock 99. I don't know if I'm ever

That looks AI and it's not. That shit is off. Oh, boom, boom, the castle. The chain. It is so, like, it gives me goosebumps. Like, bring up,

bring up Miller walking out to corn for the Padres. Dude, I mean, Diaz for the, for the Dodgers when he walks out, he's hurt, so he hasn't been blowing the doors off anybody. But, um, Miller is, dude, I don't think he's given up by, uh, run in 50 games. No, this guy's, this guy's, pretty game. You know he was, you know he played division three baseball, didn't get, recruited nothing, dude. His story's fucking bananas,

dude. And I'll tell you, I know, maybe it's for the patron chin, I don't know. Play that and you tell me you don't fucking, this is why baseball's so fucking winning. Winning, dude.

The performance aspects. Dodgers, love the fucking Dodgers. There's not a better moment in sports. When this motherfucker walks out, do no, do do, do. Can you imagine the game? Gagne at his peak with Welcome to the Jungle. Yeah.

Especially when he was, with the glasses. youngs as a realtor and do get it did and the crowd was oh yeah is it said or no yeah this is it rewind it, rewind it dude look at him warming up imagine him he's got a match it to him he's ready to run through a wall bro I'm ready to run through a fucking wall play this chin you know what time it is it's time for baysson Miller bro the crowd goes to dark oh oh look at it goes to dark oh Look at the crowd. Watch.

Back to dark. Look at all the cameras. Bro! He crowd's just fucking geek. Imagine the batter. You're like, what the fuck? He doesn't give up

a fucking hit, but he deals. God, look how tall he is, too. Fuck. Division three player. Dude. That's how weird baseball is, too,

though. Bro. Good. Nothing in sports. Well, buddy. But, But this is why baseball is killing it. Because they've, you know, baseball has always been like they have the unspoken rules.

It's a little slower. So now they have the pitch count or the the pitch clock, right, to speed things up, which is great. But this, like this is what, if you're a young kid, like my son's a pitcher, I'm like, buddy, watch, look at this. When he comes out, like, W.W. He has a walkout song, buddy. It's so dope. What was your walkout song? Did you have one?

Square Dance by M. M and M. Sick. All right. Boom, boom, and I play it for my son as we're driving.

It's his favorite song, right, because he knows I walked out to it. But before we got out of the car, I crank as loud as I can. And if I know he's starting pitcher, put that on. There it is.

People feel so good to be back. That shit is fucking spicy, bro. Is it on YouTube at all or no? I have no clue. No, no mind. Do you know the Roy McDonald walkout music song?

Their story? His walkout song. I'm trying to think about Roy walks out to. one of the it's one of those stories where you go like oh we're living in a simul this isn't real oh what so roy macdonald changed his phone he got a oh that's right and the fan was communicating some guy who's fucking awesome by the way and he needs to come out and take take credit because he's the best they get whatever who's ever in charge of marketing for the ufc would be like and what's your walkouts they ask you the week of the fight and the guy

instead of going like i'm sorry i don't know what you're talking about he's like uh it's fucking cotton eyed joe and then the next one it's like actually i want to do macarena And it took Roy and McDonnell like four fights to finally. He's like, what the fuck? It was like nickelback. He's like, what is this? Dude, did you ever see Mike Perry? He wanted to come out to the Halo song from the video game.

And it was a Hia was Beyonce. It was beyond the halo. What the fuck? It was fuck it. Just start singing with it. It's perfect because it was Mike Perry too. Yeah, he didn't get all upset. He's like, oh, whatever.

Yeah, he's the best. I can't believe unless someone does it. I'm a pretty attentive fan. How does no one use Hells Bells from ACDC? That's the greatest. walkout song. Uh, someone has.

I get pumped in my car. I'm not even walking out anywhere. The one group you can't use is Metallica. Yeah. I heard that. Yeah. Hey, he'd breed too.

Matt, uh, really tough fucking maniac with crazy elbows. Uh, Matt, uh, God damn it. Retired. I know what you're talking about.

Damn it. I can't think of his name right. He didn't get Matt the immortal. Oh, uh, Matt Brown. Matt Brown. Thank you.

Matt Brown used to come out. And he was like boys with Jamie from Hayprey. Yeah. He used to come out. I was like that that's hard to do the lead singer from tool text me how he got my number I don't know he texted me before oh I'm sure uh one of my uh it was a huge fight takes me before and then my buddy who knew him was like oh dude you got come out to the song and I'm like I can't there's no there's it's too much who's a little proggy yeah yeah I was like I mean I love him

he's great but it'd be tough for a walkout that court that corn is insane I mean in that Walkout. Now we're Dodger fan, so we got to end on, bring up Diaz, Dodgers walkout. His is pretty good. Mother's, mother's, mother. But Diaz comes out to the, it's the, it's the, it's the, the, the, the, the music, isn't it? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, yeah. Edwin Diaz? Yep, Edwin. He's hurt, but he'll come back. It's good. It's no. Mason Miller, but it's fucking, but you're also, you're playing your crowd. Like, there's probably a lot of people in, but here, this is the, and this is the, and this is the, and this is the. MLB. But that's it. Chin and I are going to come out to hammer smash face by Cannibal Corpse. This is pretty gangster.

Where the fuck is the trumpet lady? Here it goes. Playing those that trumpet through her tits. Jesus Christ. She got the de-cups on her navel. She had to like move tis out of the way just to get the trumpet. Damn, son. This is pretty good.

It is good. It's no Mason Miller coin. And I want that for him, but it's just, as a Dodgers fan, it's just not as... But your point, with them will be growing, it's like, this is walkout shit that the, like, remember when Shnade O'Connor sang for a couple of... Dude. Even my wife, who doesn't care. Insane. She was like, God, this is amazing.

I was like, I know. Yeah, it's, it's that delivery. It's like, it's making it special. Because these guys are special, man. The WWE's too, like, they're too controlling of their stuff, right? because the glass-breaking stone-cold music, that would be dope. That's next level.

Yeah. A UFC fighter could probably do it now, right? With T-K-L? Yeah, because T-K-K-D-D-Done. That'd be dope. Who would be-said? Especially a white heavyweight or light-heavyweight. I feel like Strickling.

Strictly. Strickland. Dude, Stone-cold music, Sean. Let's go. That would be dope. Against Hamlet. I remember Shane being Trump came out because Adam Ray, who, Adam's a great guy.

I'm so happy for success. Adam Ray was being Biden at Kill Tony. Yeah. And Shane came out as Trump to Stone Cold. Yeah. And it was the funniest. Yeah. Dun,

dun, dun, dun, dun, done. Yeah, just the MLB, whoever's running that shit now.

They get the pageantry. They get that kind of planning to that. Where for a long time, they just did, they did none of that. Well, it's effortless.

By the way, effortless diversity. Like, the MLB is insane. Like, you're just, 40 countries have like, a dominant. I mean, you saw with a world baseball classic.

It's amazing how many dominant baseball players come from all over the globe. So you have that, I think that they're silently encouraging the whole team rivalry thing where they're like, gets a little chippy, gets a little violent, fine, we're not going to say anything. We're not going to encourage it, but we're not going to. And then also, like you said, the welcoming the Paddy, the Dodgers, I don't know about other ballparks. I have to assume the Yankees, it's an organization.

It almost transcends baseball. but but what you go to dodder stadium now and it's like the tie-ins to like anime and like every player has their own like animated card and the lights and the bobblehead night like everyone has a bobblehead's it's insane concert environment you're like they've nailed it and i give a little credit to the banana league the banana savannah bananas because i don't know if you've seen what they're doing like they'll sell out petco stadium the sell out that Tampa bay uh state the rays in like two minutes But there's so much. There's so much pageantry, and I think that's why they're so big now. And they're good enough at baseball to have credibility. Although those guys can fucking play. They're good enough.

Yeah, yeah. So I think MLB is like, okay, what can we kind of get away with that they're doing? We can take a page out of their book. Why not? Have you seen, speaking of the Savannah bananas? Have you seen this guy's goat right now? He's my goat. They brought a dude out of the crowd.

Savannah bananas. makes makes like a diving catcher like a really amazing defensive play. They did like a like a raffle like who thinks they can play and out of all and they brought a guy out

just a dude. He's in tennis shoes and then he hits a bomb. Did he have a background in baseball or anything? Clearly but it's not like pre-set up. No, no, no.

I mean he hits a fucking, he corks one. It's so fucking cool. So that crowd, he'll say, man, no, no,

see, put maybe put in uh, Savannah bananas fan hits Homer or fan hits Bomb. Bomb? Yeah, yeah, bomb for me. Fan catch leads epic bananas comeback. Yeah, because it's an out for the Savannah bananas if the crowd catches a ball,

which is pretty cool. Yeah, that is cool. Yeah, pretty cool. You stay active in. You'll be able to tell because he's in, he's literally in street clothes. And then you just hit the fucking, like a corker, too. Yeah, you did it. Like, like, no cool questions.

He, like, flipped his bat and everything. I was like, oh, this guy's my, this guy's my man. This guy's my fucking. Yeah, I don't see it. Sorry, man. No problem. Fan out of crowd. It hits Homer.

Okay, let's just try. Home run. Homer from crowd? Home run. God damn it. All right. I'm going to find it. I'm going to send you.

Okay. Fan kids is fall ball. No. If I find it, I'll put it in the episode. You're the man. right no worse so dixie for jamy mcgris question mark

if he makes it that far the two two low here watching the replay because i still can't effing believe that happened yeah i was watching a thing where they had old school like NFL players taking uh BP uh i think it was that rocky samuel

all-star game and people forget john no is better at baseball I think it was football. Have you seen him? He was drafted, right? He was going to play for, I think he was going to play for the Yankees. He's going to be the number one pick. Yeah.

Yeah. And, uh... Wild, dude. That is wild, dude. That is wild. That is. That is crazy. And also, like, have you seen,

um, you were talking about earlier in the show, we were talking about how, um, there's a special thing with baseball. And I, I agree completely. But have you seen the video of like NFL players trying to, like,

even like, hit off a tee. Yeah. It's like, if you don't have that thing or if you didn't, You're not just going to be athletic. No. Jump in. And then there's video of like mooky bets like running, running routes and like stunking basketballs. You're like, oh, well.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well. Well, there's also something unmentioned that's genetic about that. I was watching Mr. Beast with my daughter and my wife the other day. And it was like, it was actually really cool. It was a bunch of other content creators and they all competed to give away a million dollars to one of their fans. That's cool.

So, yeah, it was really cool. And it was content creators from all over the world. And one of the contests that they, they wheeled, they needleed it down to like 10 kids. And they got down to, oh, fan hit a home run. There it is. They whittled it down to like 10, 12 kids. And they got into a basketball competition, okay? And there's three or four kids who were crushing.

Let's just assume you know what they look like. Yeah. Okay? Yeah, yeah. But then the next one was baseball. and there was some kid from like Chile just dominated. These black guys who just got done

fucking scorching people in basketball and they were like, er, and I was like, oh, well, I was like, guys,

I'm not going to say much, but they're playing up to stereotypes right now pretty badly. This is it, and you found it? No, it's not showing anything. That's just the guy talking about it.

I wonder if they scrubbed it for some reason, but, um, it was. You saw him walk out from the crowd. Then he makes it a great play and then just hits a fucking corker. It was awesome.

It says Pickles intern? What's Pickles? That's not what we're talking about. I don't know then. If I find it, I'll text it to you. Yeah, please do. Yeah, it's just the guy talking, huh? Yeah. All right.

Well, brother, I appreciate you coming on, Big Dog. Always my pleasure. You're the absolute best, man. I appreciate it. I love you. I want to ask real quick, Mike, have you been, since you have all these connections and stuff to the music place and we have the same taste of music?

Yes, we do. Have you been to any of the new Pantera tour at all? I got invited to go. Damn. This is two, but when it first started, like a two years ago, one year ago.

And then they started touring the Talakia too. Right, right, and I knew some, I have some really close friends who were in like the marketing team for BL,

Black Label Society in Zach's world, who worked with Ozzy, and they, and I, and I wasn't able to make it. But, bummer. I don't know,

I don't know, if I want to. You don't like, because there's no die bag or way? Not only, not, not no dime bag, but,

like yeah and and i'm by the way like i like really like charlie benanti i really like zach but i just i was like such a and i was really lucky i saw the the pantera oh man like for i'm reinventing the steel on that tour and then for um the far beyond driven tour when i was like sophomore and like you couldn't i keep trying to tell people even if you don't learn not a metal head peak panting when they were really on before, like Phil started to get super deep into drugs. Like, you have no idea how good they were. How fucking tight. That's a bummer.

Every five star, like Van Halen at their peak, it was five. The look, the songwriting, the performance, the technical ability. It was amazing. Yeah. At least you got to see them. That's the one band. Are you going to go? I never.

Do you want to go to the new? Yeah, of course. You want to go to the new band? I still want to do. Yeah. But they're touring like in Europe or something right now. Do they have plans toward the U.S.? They did.

They already went to all. Austin like in 2025. We missed it. We weren't here. Yeah. Do you hear about the, they announced it yesterday, the Slayer show, the special show? I do it's nowhere around here. It's, but they're going to play rain and blood beginning to end. Oh, sick. And, um, down and suicidal tendencies are opening. Should I have her from down and a long-ass time. And suicidal, too. That's badass. So I'm, I'm into that. Sick. Hell yeah. Well, Mike, we love your brother. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for answering the bat signal.

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