The Fighter & The Kid - McGregor Returns... But Everyone's Ignoring This | TFATK Ep. 1203
Episode Date: July 9, 2026Conor McGregor is officially back, and the conversation around his UFC return against Max Holloway has never been bigger.On this episode of The Fighter and The Kid, Brendan Schaub and Bryan C...allen break down the biggest talking points heading into one of the most anticipated fights of the year. From McGregor's long layoff and the media coverage surrounding his return to whether fans should separate the fighter from the controversy, the guys dive into one of the most debated topics in MMA.They also discuss the Fighters Only MMA Awards, Bryan's upcoming appearance in Las Vegas, Paddy Pimblett's redemption fight, Robert Whittaker's return, Gable Steveson's UFC debut, and why this card could shape the future of the lightweight division.Outside the Octagon, Brendan and Bryan get into World Cup predictions, why France continues to dominate international soccer, and a fascinating conversation about youth sports, parenting, football culture in Texas, and what it really takes to develop elite athletes.DraftKings - New DraftKings customers, sign up with code FIGHTER spend five bucks to get two hundred in rewards within 21 days. That's code FIGHTER.O'Reilly - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is really the fighter and the kid.
Come on, baby.
Yes, sir.
8 a.m. B.
8 a.m.
You let us know yesterday.
I know.
I'm trying to look up the award.
Hold on.
Don't tell us.
Hold on.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So Calton goes, hey man, I got to record at 8 a.m. tomorrow, which is early for you, bud.
And me and Chin are like, okay.
And I said, what happened to you not going out of town anymore and being on time?
And you said, well, they've asked me to present a award at the father's only MMA awards.
Yes.
Yes, and I'm doing it with Hurricane Shane Helms of the WWE, Hurricane Shane Helms.
They couldn't give you a...
Presenting Promotion of the Year.
What is it?
Promotion of the Year?
Yes.
Oh, weird.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
I have no clue who's going to win that.
Well, oh, my God.
Who's going to win that?
There is.
You think the fucking UFC's going to win that?
Well, I don't know.
You're going to do.
PFL?
Oh, my God.
Oh, we're biting our feet.
Fingernails. I have no clue who's going to win that one.
Some of them are probably a shoe win.
You know what I mean?
Most of them.
Yeah. Some of them are true.
But I'm, I'm psyched.
I get to meet Shane and that'll be fun.
Oh, yeah. What's your favorite match from his?
Well, he was, well, okay, that's a good question now.
I'm not a huge WWE guy.
Hey, hold on.
Little heartbreaking when he found out was a WB guy.
Listen, WWB is great.
You're a little heartbreaking in that.
it's not,
no, no,
you're a little heartbreaking
it's not
Izzy Adesanya.
No,
you're a little heartbreaking
that it's not
Hamzot or DDP
presenting the award with you.
To be backstage and just hang.
Tracy Cortez.
Sure.
McKenzie Dern.
Sure.
Love him.
Love him.
I mean,
literally anybody,
it could be
but W.
Ryan Battle
Hold on.
WW.
He is huge and this is exciting.
So we're going to go out there.
We're not WVE guys.
What's that?
We're not WWE guys.
No, but I have friends that are.
I have friends like Will Saso that are.
Yeah, it's just a little heartbreak in that they didn't match up with the UFC guy because you're such a UFC.
I am a huge UFC.
Dude, I went to the Fighters Only Award.
Oh, I mean, probably was bright when they started.
It was cool.
I did stand-up at one of them.
That's right.
With Brian Stan was there, he was hosting, I think.
And it was fun.
Chin, check out who's the host this year.
It's usually Chale.
And then our boy, Adam, Adam the Roastmaster, usually writes a lot.
for that. Adam's great. Oh, Adam Hunter.
Adam Hunter. Oh, yeah. I hope he's
there. Yeah, he's big on that. Yeah, Adam's great.
Yeah. The M.M.A. Awards.
I always forget it's not the UFC Awards. It's the
MMA Awards.
But you know what they should change it to?
The UFC Awards?
Yeah. Yeah. But that's cool.
Chale Sonnen. My boy's going to be there.
Love Chale.
Sahara Theater. Come on down.
Come on down.
Looking forward to that.
Yeah. I remember.
I went because the Fighters Only awards.
Fighters Only used to be, it was a magazine.
It was so freaking cool, man.
It was so cool.
Did you?
I think I was on the cover one of the fighters only before my Noggera fight.
Might have been a different magazine.
But Fighters only used to be big, man.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
But those awards are cool.
Those awards are super cool.
They are cool.
I'm excited.
I gave, you know, you to dress up.
I gave one, when I was there, I was with, I host, co-hosted with Teala.
Remember Tequila?
such a sweetheart.
Hold on.
Yeah.
I'm going to tell you right now,
fighters only,
if you keep disrespect to my boy here.
No,
no,
on,
let me get this straight.
You fly him to,
to Las Vegas
to present an award
and you,
you give him tequila
tequila with that head?
And then,
and then hold on,
hold on.
You,
you peer my boy up
with teal tequila,
and then now
he's with a
W.W.E.
guy?
Can we get a little
respect?
No,
listen.
A little fucking respect.
She was huge
back then,
And she was adorable and she was just adorable.
So, so cute.
We had fun.
I gave Fabricio Verduem submission of the year.
That's cool.
She's a doll.
I hope she's doing well because she's such a sweetheart.
Hey,
let them know how she's doing now, Jen.
I mean, that's the one that we saw that just went viral.
But hopefully she went through some stuff, but she was a good human being.
I think they messed with that picture.
She was a truly good human being.
Like, this looks more like it would be her.
Yeah, man.
but honestly, like I
just kind of
was there and talked to her afterwards.
She was a good person, man.
A good person.
I want the best for her.
Is that what she looks like now?
She's gorgeous.
I know what I've seen.
I think this is AI, guys.
No.
It says resources amid Epstein file release.
So this is 2024.
I hope she's doing well.
Because she was sweet.
Yeah.
What?
It's 8 in the morning, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
I just like a little more respect on Brian Callan's name if he's going to go through all this trouble to host the MMA awards.
Now I'm not hosting it though.
Well, I mean, just bringing them there.
That's what she looks like now?
Absolutely not.
It's probably a fan.
Absolutely not.
This is a fan page.
I think she's gotten off of the line.
And she got her start on the VH1 show, right?
The MTV or something like that.
TLA, whatever the fuck is?
That was a fun show.
Like a dating show, right?
With girls and guys.
Yeah.
I used to love those shows.
Yeah.
What year was that?
That was early.
Early 2000?
So cute.
So cute.
A shadowed love.
A shot of love with the kids.
Oh, yeah.
A shot of love.
Vietnamese.
Yeah.
Ah, she's gorgeous.
Well, there are two daughters.
She does?
Yeah.
See, that's awesome.
Okay.
Oh, weird.
So hold on.
She kind of got ex out from the community because she published numerous post-praising Adolf
and promoting anti-Semitic.
She might have had a breakdown.
I think she's out of that.
You know, people go through some weird stuff.
People go through some weird stuff in Hollywood.
If your kid becomes a star,
or somebody becomes a star before they're ready,
or something happens.
It's a lot.
It's a, yeah, Hollywood will do some crazy, demonic shit to you.
Isn't it weird when you have the mental breakdown,
you just start praising Adolf?
There are, there are a certain,
weird, isn't it a weird path to go to it?
There are certain things that people will do when they self-destruct.
Yeah.
You know, and it was like, well, isn't that what Mel Gibson did when he was really drunk?
Isn't that what, you know, people-
The difference is Mel still believes that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Mel's thing was a, but Mel's not tequila.
Yeah.
Some people will get drunk and they'll just be like, I hate, you know.
Yeah.
I hate all the, all non-white.
You're like, well, wait, wait, what's going on here?
Yeah.
You got to find, like, I think when people get drunk, they will tend to, um, people get drunk.
And the truth comes out.
Hey, and they'll, and they'll, they'll, yeah, they'll say things that they, that they, that's naughty, that they'd hold in.
That's what comes out.
Yeah, but sometimes I think they, they have a self-destructive streak.
Yeah.
And they get drunk.
They're like, and it's more like, fuck it.
I'm going to say the most outrageous shit ever.
But don't you feel like, uh, Mel Gibson's been redeemed?
Yeah.
Like, I think people are like, all right, whatever.
Yeah.
He had a 10-year sit-down.
It was a 10-year, you know, it was a long time.
This is my thing.
Like, how do you feel with like, like with Connor McGregor fighting this Saturday?
Like, right, I do a ton of coverage on it and talk about Connor.
And some people are like, oh, but what about the grape allegation where he was convicted
in civil court?
And I'm kind of like, listen, I'm not a journalist.
I'm not a journalist.
I don't know the exact details.
What happened?
I know he's walking the streets.
I know there's some shit over there in Dublin.
But here it's different.
Like not too many people are bringing it up here.
It's really not a thing.
It's kind of amazing that not many people are bringing it up either.
But also what do you want me to do?
Like what am I supposed to do?
I didn't even think about this.
I actually didn't think about this.
You know, and it's something you kind of have to think about.
Because we know that allegation.
which are everywhere.
You know, it's like Graham Platner just got, you know,
some woman came out and said,
who the hell is that?
He was about to win the Senate seat in Maine.
Okay, don't compare him to Connor though, but keep going.
Well, yeah, but, you know, that guy right there.
Okay, well, he did it.
Look at his face.
Look at that time.
Could you look more guilty?
That's so tragic for him.
Oh, that's really funny.
Jesus Christ.
He's actually like a combat veteran, oyster farmer, you know, all that stuff.
And he was on, he was on Reddit and he said some kind of questionable things.
And sure.
Actually had a Nazi tattoo, but he said he didn't know it was a Nazi tattoo.
Which to be fair, I didn't, I saw it and I didn't know it was either.
It was like something that the SS got.
But here's my thing.
I was just joking and saying he looked like he did.
But, um, after, like his girlfriend said from 2021.
Yeah.
This is what the, but see.
So all that.
So like, I don't know that guy.
I don't know his background.
I was making a joke about the way he looks.
Yeah.
But already when you tell me he's been convicted, my natural instinct these days is going,
nah.
Exactly.
Nah, and that's what most people do.
Until we have legit proof.
Yeah.
Until he's in a court of law.
I go, okay.
And it's this stuff.
It's like, grandpa was extra.
of my just his main dem would
equally pull off condoms during this is dirty
politics yeah but they got them out as a result
yeah yeah yeah because you wouldn't tell the party line
he was there's a lot of stuff dirty politics
and since he went tow the party line then this comes to light
yes that that's different
with Connor stuff
again I don't I'm not a lawyer
I don't know all the facts of the case
I uh when I get when they go oh
he was convicted in a civil court I go
might not a criminal so this is what I was kind of thinking about
like with that kind of thing
I just go political operative, you know.
There's all kinds of shit.
That's Paul ticking.
And most of us are like, another one.
Fuck off.
Hollywood two, though.
Hollywood two, I go, oh, here we go again.
Of course, because, you know, when was it 10 years ago, 20 years ago?
Where were you then?
What are you talking about?
And because you know that that's a great way to ruin somebody's career.
Yeah.
You can say one thing to a journalist who's dying for a fucking article.
And then you're done.
Yeah.
So, you know, if you believe in due process, you don't.
I have skeptical hippo eyes.
Of course, always.
And should, always.
Yeah. The thing about Connor, can you bring up all the allegations? Because there were, there's been a lot of shit. And to go into a court of law, now when you're, it's a civil trial, the burden of proof is much lower. Correct. Right. That's why you go there. Um, and in a way, I don't know, I don't know how those things are. Um, I don't think it's the same as a criminal case. It's just not. You know, it's just not. It's not. There's a reason you would go there. Yeah. Yeah.
when Nikita Legend
a Dublin Hotel
2018. Okay.
Irish prosecuted declined to bring criminal charges
and there was infinite sufficient evidence
to meet a criminal standard of proof.
All right.
Hand filed a civil suit.
Irish high court found liable for sexual assault
and awarded.
I mean, okay.
Appeal.
So he tried to appeal it, but it was dismissed.
Also remember, though, he's running for
a seat.
There you go.
So there's a lot there where I just go, you know.
Now remember the Miami Heat finals one?
Remember that came out to be an entirely fake thing?
Remember that?
Yeah, I do.
So that's the thing.
It's like, I don't know the ins and outs of it.
I'm not a journalist.
What do you want me to do?
My thing is that when police officers look at this stuff who have experience and they don't
bring charges, that's what I'm going by.
you know, that's what you have to go by.
Right?
Right?
I mean, otherwise now we're dealing with, again, he said, she said.
And, you know, just because you lost a civil trial, it's not the same burden of proof.
So, I don't know.
But, you know.
But also, like, I think in, like, Ireland and Dublin, it's, I think there is more covered.
Like, it was like mainstream out there.
here not as much.
Like it wasn't on the news out here.
None of that case was on the news out here.
So, yeah.
Most of this is all bullshit.
Yeah, the bus attack was just
nothing like
the sexual assault stuff.
Yeah, yeah, the phone incident,
the pop attack was shit.
So there have been three ins, like one we know is false,
the Miami Heat one, right?
That turned out to be complete.
Completely false.
So then we're left with these two others.
No, that one's fake too.
The Dublin one?
Nothing.
Turned out to be nothing.
So there's really one.
There's one that he was convicted with a civil law.
Not convicted.
He was found liable.
Yeah, liable.
Big difference.
Big difference.
So my thing is, if knowing this.
That's up to a jury, man.
Yeah, but knowing this and he fights Saturday, what do you want me to do?
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I mean, again, well, no, I know what you're supposed to do with.
that we have a system in place.
When someone has found guilty in a court of law,
that's a whole different thing,
a whole different thing.
If you're going to judge people on
what a jury found in a civil trial
with everything,
I mean,
there are a lot of people that get,
you know,
sued and lose over some bullshit,
especially because it's not,
it's a very low burden of proof.
It is a he says,
she said thing.
So. Yeah.
And no one really knows what happens
except for those two.
Yeah. Also, yeah. Yes. Yes. So I understand Dana's decision, UFC's decision to say you're not banned from the UFC.
Oh, well, Connor could sue them. He has a contract for them.
Right, but there's also a moral clause in most contracts. So, you know, I mean, if this was Hollywood, he'd never be seen from again.
it'd be a you know they did it to johnny debt for six years believe they'd do it to him yeah for for
connor though if this was if this was politics he's gone forever if this was but remember this is
you know sports is it professional sports isn't hollywood right sports is look don't trump
don't trump there's been way worse stuff yeah but don't trump is found liable by eugene carroll
eugene carroll was telling the story laughing and her friend said you've been you were you know and she was
like what you know you know you
We got to be careful with the grape word on here.
Yeah, we don't want to go through.
Yeah, but I know.
I know.
But again, but for like there's been,
guys have done wayward stuff that this in professional sports and we're still able to compete.
I'm not saying it's right.
I'm just saying when it comes comparing Conner.
No, but I mean the question is the question.
But I,
I would say.
You didn't even think about it, right?
No.
I don't think most people are.
Yeah.
No,
hasn't been brought up at all.
Well,
it does with like the hardcores,
the MMA journalist,
like the journalists, you know,
they're there,
They're like they're responsible to bring it up, you know?
And they're talking about it.
I mean,
I guess in their small circles.
Yeah,
I haven't seen anything.
He was on,
he was on Errol Harwani being interviewed.
Well,
he was on Jimmy Fallon.
I mean.
Jimmy didn't say shit.
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah,
some people just skate by these things.
Some people don't.
But yeah,
but what do you?
No,
I'm saying that like,
What are you going to do?
Like, think about that, though.
That's like you were found guilty.
You were found liable in a court of law, you know, liable in a civil trial.
If that was anybody in the United States, I feel like they'd never be on Jimmy Fallon.
But Kobe Bryant.
Yeah.
Some people, some people figure it out.
Mike Tyson.
What was he in jail for three or six years?
Six years.
I mean, you know.
know what I mean it's a weird thing some people just seem to keep moving interesting i wonder if he'll be
at the fighters only awards the mama awards yeah i don't think so no he's not doing really it used to be
not a lot of people would go i think now it's a bigger thing it was it was it yeah yeah it was a
big deal back in the day yeah okay be interesting but it's still cool it's great to do it yeah i'm excited
Yeah.
I like the people involved a lot.
Again, just go up to whoever's running.
Next year.
Could you peer me up with a real fighter?
I was a last minute.
I was a last minute guy in this.
That sounds like it.
That's why we're doing the podcast now.
It's kind of last minute.
Yeah.
But take my 14-year-old.
He's going to Vegas with you?
Yeah.
That'd be fun for it.
Yeah.
It'd be good to hang.
Does he like UFC?
He's as tall as I am.
I know.
That's crazy.
14.
So weird.
It's so fucking weird.
14 years old and he's 5'10.
He's out here for how long for the summer?
He's going to be here all of July.
Hopefully.
And then we're going to go see my dad for a weekend and play some golf.
In Utah?
Yeah.
My 86-year-old dad still doing it.
Big boy.
You have hope.
Big dogs usually don't last.
Big golf.
Yeah.
Big golfer.
Big dog, big golfer.
You never got into golf.
Too much time.
Too much time.
Just is.
I don't have...
I don't get it.
Did you enjoy it though when you did it?
When I was drinking, I'd have fun.
You know, because you're drinking, it's not that serious.
Yeah.
But golf isn't something you do like once a month.
It's kind of like surfing.
If you're going to do it, you got to really get after it.
You know, to have a good time.
If you're just horrible at it, it's not fun.
Yeah.
Like most, most the, like, most...
Like most of,
I went before, yeah.
Most of baseball, football dad's out here,
the golf, they're like, oh, you golf?
I'm like, no, man.
No, man.
How do you have four or five hours
in the middle of the day to go fucking?
You got to be retired.
Golf.
Most of them are.
I think a lot of it's business, too, though.
It's like networking.
Yeah.
And then some...
It's an excuse to day drink, smoke cigars.
Yeah.
Something to do.
And hang.
Yeah.
Get away from your wife.
Yeah.
That's how I look at it.
And then some people love it.
I get it.
yeah did you did you watch argentina oh yeah when that's come back in 13 minutes yeah that was crazy that was
crazy against egypt god egypt had that one unbelievable it sucks now that uh u.s is out and mexico
well did you see Switzerland and columbia yeah the game was so boring i know and the final shot
yeah the final that's what i live for i didn't even watch that oh you didn't watch whole game now we
So the whole game, like, come on.
I was at a restaurant.
I didn't know it was so early.
I look on the TV, I'm like, the fuck are they playing?
Let me go see what the score is.
I'm like, and the guy was, it was the first penalty shot.
Oh, so you just watched it.
Oh, you just watched that.
I didn't even realize they had played.
I was going for Switzerland.
That's the thing about soccer.
We talk about this, but it is a very low scoring situation, man.
You've got to be patient.
It's exciting, though.
It is.
It is.
It really is.
No, what?
There's only eight teams left now, right, Chin?
I'll check.
We just need somebody to take out.
France. Norway, France.
England.
Argentina, Belgium, England, France, Morocco, Norway, Spain, Switzerland.
Yeah. Anything can happen.
England could win it. But France's favorite.
Oh, yeah, France's favorite. Yeah, but Morocco.
Look at the odds chin. Let's see who's the big dogs here.
I'm going to tell you, it's England, Argentina.
No, France is number one.
not even close yeah yeah yeah i'm sorry france number one argentina number two argentina and then tied is
spain and england maybe france versus morocco okay so france is favored by 77 percent
spain 70 percent damn nor oh england favored over norway argentina so they're basically saying
you have argentina versus england in the semis and then spain versus france and semis
Damn. That's a hell of a game.
Spain versus France is going to be.
England versus France would be sick.
Yeah. Yeah. You're rooting against France.
Yeah. Yeah, I want the big, because they're also the big favorites.
If they lose, it makes it way more exciting.
Yeah.
Like go to odds to win it all, though, Chin. This is just their next game.
I think it's France.
No, I know it's France, but I wonder by how much.
They've always been the favorites.
from the jump.
Those boys are stacked.
They are stacked.
I'll tell you to be nice.
In two weeks, we'll never talk about soccer again for another four years.
I like the World Cup.
I love the World Cup, though.
But it's not like...
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
France number one, Argentina, Spain.
Oh, England's four?
Man, Mbapé is the real deal.
All Africans.
Damn, Belgium's number five, huh?
They're that good.
That's what they would say.
Because there are a lot of them are French.
The U.S. team just didn't.
you get to tell they were nervous as fuck
they just picked the worst time to play bad
I think the big stage got to them playing
They did seem nervous
Competition yeah
It's just not we're not there
We're a young team
We're just not there not as good
Just not as good
They just weren't ready for the bright lights
There's a lot of crying that goes on
World Cup
Oh with the fan base
No with the players
With actual players
Yeah a lot of cry
A lot of cry babies
Just like flopping around and stuff
Yeah just lying there on the ground
not getting up, kind of like making it a little bit about themselves.
Yeah, I don't know.
You're like, hey, hey, get up.
I don't understand it.
Stop the crying already.
Although, although Messi and Ronaldo cried, but it's like, all right, guys, it's very, very passionate.
A little bit like, come on, come on now.
Because Ronaldo's done?
Or did they move on?
That'll be his last World Cup.
He's not playing at 45.
Yeah, I know, but did they lose, they lost, right?
Or did they move on?
They lost.
They lost to Spain.
That's right.
Yeah.
I lost to Spain.
Lost to Spain.
In the last in 89 minutes in.
One little mistake.
Yeah.
High level soccer is cool.
I just can't see myself watching like, you know, a regular game.
Yeah.
The high states of the World Cup's fun.
Like, I'm not watching a regular season fucking MLS game.
Get the fuck out of my face.
Just laughing about how you said that about.
Mexico.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, they're not.
Genetically inferior.
Athletically inferior.
I wouldn't say that.
Really?
They've never won.
I mean, some of the greatest boxers in their weight class.
In the weight class.
Yeah, go through it, Bubba.
I'm not saying it.
Compared to the rest of the world, go through it.
Well, it's difficult for anyone to compete
against the
kind of athletes
that are on
French's
France's team
because they're not from
France originally
What depends about sport
No I'm saying
America in soccer
I'm saying
I'm saying soccer
Oh yeah
You know you're talking about
You know you're talking about people
from Cameroon and Ghana
and Nigeria originally
And just ridiculously athletic
Yeah soccer
West Africa
For soccer
Well
They're not like huge guys.
They're big.
They're bigger than you think.
Not compared to American athletes.
Not even close.
But those guys, I've got news for you.
Those guys, if they were,
a lot of those guys on the French team could have been wide receivers,
cornerbacks,
they're every bit as big,
big enough and fast enough.
I don't think so.
Oh, I do.
100%.
6-2, 6-3, 6-4?
Never happened.
It's never happened.
100%.
They're just as good an athlete,
just as fast as your cornerbacks.
or wide receivers.
They just, it's a different sport.
Different training.
Yeah, different training.
Yeah, maybe if they're born here.
I mean, if you ever see, size wise though, they're not.
You ever see, have you ever seen T.R.
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But no, he's so jacked.
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Jesus.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
In shape.
He's bigger now.
He's a freak athlete.
No, for sure he's a freak athlete.
I'm saying if he had grown up in the United States playing football,
he would have been easily a wide receiver,
cornerbacker.
Same body, same crazy speed.
Depends.
Depends if he likes the physicality.
He likes getting hit.
Soccer's definitely not that.
That's a different animal.
That's a different animal.
There's a lot of really good athletes.
They get in the mouth.
They're like, all right, no, we'll play baseball.
It takes a special type of person to be the,
that athletic and want to get that physical.
Well, a lot of times you do it
because it was the only sport you were exposed to.
No, or kids gravitate towards it.
There's certain kids gravitate towards it.
You know, some kids are more physical
than others.
Yeah. That kid came from
the French projects. He's a tough fuck.
Did he come from the French projects?
Yeah. Yeah, grew up playing.
No, because if he was that good, they're going to pick him up
probably around six or seven.
He grew up playing on concrete.
Yeah, but look how young he was
before he got into the big-time soccer programs?
He was playing streetball forever, man.
Those kids were like, grew up in those,
in those, like, isolated places.
It was all, it's all, no French people either.
It's all immigrants from all over, like Algeria, Africa, you know.
Keep going down, Jen.
It's like being a streetballer.
So hold on.
He turned.
basically pro if he was born 77 83 so he only was six he's playing he's starting to get in the
program you know what I'm saying like if you're that gifted those boys pick you up so early
they pick you up fast yeah so you're not like eating on the streets is my point no no no but
like messy who started but he grew up in a really shitty part of the world I mean you know
in terms of like the French project tough neighborhood despite its good football and facilities
Yeah, it really was
There you go
And at seven years old
Henry showed great potential
prompting Claude to recruit him
to the local CEO Les Uli's club
But again, even then
You're still going back to the projects
You're going and training
And then you come back, you know
And you're playing on
You know
It's a different thing
In 1994
He was born in 70
When he was born?
He's born in 77
And then in 83
He was picked up
On those big boy teams
That's what's cool
Not 83 but he was yeah
He put into a program
Yeah yeah
You start yeah
Yeah
But that's what's cool about
Soccer's they see that they
I mean I guess it's cool
You'd have to absolutely love it at six
It well it's cool for a few
But there are so many people
Yeah
Like the vast majority
Go through those programs
And they're like
And nothing happens
It's too much
Nothing happens
Well it's too much
Well that's why
If there's some crazy number
like 85% of kids quit playing baseball at age of 13.
It's due to travel ball.
Is that right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's just too much.
And then at 13, the bases get wider and it gets way more serious.
And the kid's like, I'm out, dude.
Yeah, well, he said.
But also, I've been doing since I was seven.
They just would play because there was nothing else to do.
They would play on those fields and they would just play all the time.
They'd just always be on the field, just fucking around with each other.
Yeah, I think if your son turns out to be fucking Henry, it's great.
99.9% don't.
So your son's childhood has been soccer 24-7.
That's right.
It's not being a kid.
That's exactly right.
I know a kid from France.
I remember I went to college with a kid in France.
And he was this good-looking kid.
And he had been touted as the, you know, the sort of the soccer guy.
And when he was 16, whatever, they were like, it's not going to happen.
He was 17, 17 or 18.
And then he, like, he wasn't really that educated.
It was all about soccer.
Didn't realize and he didn't have a child?
And he was older than us and he was in college and I was like, why is he older?
He goes, well, he went to a soccer program.
Yeah.
And he didn't make it.
He just wasn't ultimately good enough.
He was like when he was 16, he was on TV as the new, the prospect.
And then whatever happens, happens, man.
You get to be 20 and it didn't, you stayed there.
Or maybe he didn't want it bad enough as the other guys or.
Or maybe a thousand things.
Yeah.
Which is why there's one tierie on rate, right?
Like, or maybe a thousand things.
That's what when you see those.
But making us not even, but even if you do that, making us not being Terry Henri,
making it's just, if you get it, if you're on that field in the World Cup,
even if you're sitting on the bench.
Correct.
In the Premier League, you're unbelievable.
You made it.
You made.
That's making it.
The average salary was $5 million for a risk.
And, and, you know, like, so the guys, the guys that didn't make the French World Cup team,
they go elsewhere.
They go to, they go to Senegal and they go, hey, you know, I'm actually Senegal.
Yeah, but even if they didn't make the French, all of them in their, outside the World Cup,
up they're all playing professional so they're the best in the world exactly all those guys you see are the
best they all know each other they all know each other they grew up with each other play against each other
exactly but um exactly yeah but for somebody that don't make it's like again you didn't have a childhood
your childhood was just competition it's a big gamble man it's a game it's a big fucking act of faith
and i i do think you get so much out of it right uh i'd be interested to see what yes and no
at that level it's different where it's like if you're completely robbing your child of this
childhood because you think he's the next fucking Nolan Ryan?
Yeah.
You fucked up as a man.
So I took tennis lessons from a guy who had gone through the program.
His father said,
you're going to be the greatest tennis player in the world.
And we're going to do everything that Ruffin' Nadal and those guys did.
He doesn't talk to his dad.
He hates tennis.
And he teaches because he has to.
Because you make money doing it, right?
Yeah, but that's finger about it.
Kind of all he has.
And for that dad, it's like, was it worth it?
talking to him and I was like,
whoo,
Jesus.
Man, that was not worth it.
No.
Yeah,
there's a way to do it too
where they can play competitive,
can play sports and still be kids.
You don't have to push them
two days, three days.
You don't have to do all that shit.
And trust me,
even if you're doing that,
I hate to tell you, man,
it's up to the big man upstairs
if they're going to actually make it.
You can only do so much.
There's only so much you can do.
And then if he had God's given talent
and the work ethic, listen, anything before 14, it's all good.
But really, until they really hit high school.
So when, when do you, when do you typically see the real athletes?
Well, like how old?
I know right away, but I'm saying, you can tell that at six.
At six?
Yeah.
But, but how do you know, you tell kids who that are athletic?
How do you know somebody's going to go pro?
Oh, I don't know.
That's what I mean.
I don't know.
Is it college?
No, there's somewhat, you.
there's so much that goes into it.
I was talking about this Derek Johnson, you know,
who went pro and he was a stud in Waco, Texas.
And it's like,
there's so many factors that go into it.
Talent's one thing for sure.
Yeah,
but then there's also other stuff that did you go to the right program?
Did you,
were you put in the right guys at the right time?
Put in the right position to excel.
Do you have the right coaching staff?
There's like so much shit that goes into it.
Who knows, man?
It's such a crapshoot.
Baseball is that way, too.
You can be great.
But then,
And Buck Holter, forget this first name, but Buck Holter, so he's Monster, played out here in Texas.
I forget what team he played pitch in the World Series, and he's a coach on the Mustangs.
And his dad, I was talking to his dad before a game, and I go, when did you know, no, that's not it.
It's not Isaac.
I said, when did you know the Buck Colt, I think?
Is it Blake?
No.
No.
No.
Buck Holt?
Yeah.
That's Bolt Holter?
But I asked his dad, I said, and his dad was a baseball coach.
And I said, when did you know that there is Clay?
That's him.
Beast.
But he's a coach on Tiger's program, the Mustangs.
And his dad, who was his coach growing up and stuff like that and coached baseball, I said,
at what age did you know who's going to be pro?
You're six.
Six.
He was, I looked at my wife, say, we got one.
I went, what?
He goes, I put him out there with the older kids, and he was a shortstop.
And he was just, I went, oh, you just tell.
I've been around long enough, his footwork, his glove, the way he's doing.
Why does dad know?
His dad was a coach?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, big time, big time coach.
So he just knew.
Yeah, he was like, yeah.
We got one.
We got one.
He went pro.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Well, and then he was a pitcher, and it was like, you know, he made it as a pitcher.
He's a beast of a pitcher, but his dad was like, but growing up, all through high school,
going college, he was shortstop, right field.
Like, he can do it all, man.
He's like, he can hit.
Like, he can't baseball player.
He's like, you guys know him as a pitcher.
He can do it all.
He's just, you know, freak.
He's still playing?
No, he's coaching Tiger's team, man.
Yeah, that's a wild.
But he's a, I mean, pitch in the world series.
Like, God.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's.
But then, but the, but the guys,
but it's true for that guy, it's like you say that at six,
but then I know I grew up with kids where it's like oh my like this is the best
eight nine 10 11 12 year old I've ever seen stay there and then puberty hits it's like
where the fuck do go oh he wasn't that fast he was just he had more testosterone flown through
his veins when we were nine and 10 he had a mustache you know and then it catches up so it's tough
to tell some people I'm saying just as far as early that's all some people peak in high school too
yeah so if there's like especially at this age like six seven there's a big kid he ripped
tanks like okay but you can always tell the kids who are athletic coordinated fast yes and just
have that for sure have a knack for the game you can tell that yes you can tell that and then you can tell
the kids are crazy on athletic and just like all right yeah feel good right away yeah they just don't
not to communicate with their body but the other thing too is like there's some kids who are just like
i don't feel like doing it or crying you know like i don't want to be here today who knows man they're
six and seven you never know those motherfuckers might turn out
out to be monsters.
Yeah.
Like,
there's some kids
that you're not familiar
when they turn out
to be monsters.
But you threw them away
when they're six and seven.
People also respond differently
depending on their personality,
you know?
Some people like a military situation.
Other people,
the kids like to be a little bit
more loose and free,
do it on their own accord.
But,
yeah,
I don't know.
Yeah, sports is much as well.
It's kind of a mystery that way.
I mean,
the Manning family put out
some serious quarterbacks.
That's really,
hard to do. Well, when your dad's Archie fucking manning. Yeah, but it's going to have some
hard to do. I mean, it's still such a weird, such a multi-factor position. But they have such an
advantage. Yeah, they just grow up. You grow up in that culture. The perfect fundamentals, you grow up in
that culture. Yeah, they know it right away. And you grow up around. You grow up around. You just
put them out there. Yeah. If your dad's constantly educating you on it, like you're going to pick up things
eventually with high school. You're cooking. You got the best coaches. But then also, not only do you
is your dad, you're around at 20% and he eats sleep. And he eats and
lives football. But then I'm sure your dad, who was a Heisman, fucking NFL pro,
all-star, all-pro, all-pro. Again, his buddies, his coaches are also all-pro, all-stars.
So they're spitting knowledge on you. Oh, you're having a problem with rolling to your left
and throwing across your body. Oh, here's, insert, I don't know, Bart Star back then. You know what I'm
saying? It's like, what do you need? What do you need? So they have resource, that, no one talks about
this. But when your dad comes from a professional background, he has resources. And when I say
resources, I mean all the resources. All the resources.
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So it's like, oh, you have a problem with, I mean, ground balls?
Oh, well, okay.
Maybe I know Manny Machado, you know?
Andre Agassiz's father was an Olympic boxer.
So boxing and tennis have very similar footwork, believe it or not.
Like it's, you know.
But it's also the work ethic.
That's what it is.
His dad was like,
If you ever read his book open, it's a great book.
Yeah, Andre hated tennis.
Hated it.
His father would, and his other siblings kind of burnt out.
He was the one who kind of lasted.
But, like, he even said in the book, he goes, like,
if they were, like, kind of dragging in the middle of a match,
his father would be like, hey, yeah, drink this water and take this little pill and give
him anphetamines.
Yeah.
At, like, you know, 14.
It's just like, oh, right.
All right.
But even being now, like, the boys are starting tackle football, you.
You know, Tiger's 10.
Bossi's starting.
He's six.
Bossi has so much, that's a different thing.
But with Tiger, like, he had to tackle football camp,
and I'm out there with the dads, right?
And it's really, like, Tiger hits with me and his buddies,
but he's never hit with, like, a straight camp.
Other kids, he doesn't know.
So it's the first time.
It's big camp, right?
Big Texas camp.
Yeah, I'm nervous.
Tiger, yeah, but Tiger's advantage is he's familiar with it.
I play football footballer a long time.
So I have him hitting other kids.
So when he goes that camp,
it's not the first time he's seen physical contact,
so he's not going to shy away from it.
Right.
There's other kids who dads don't have a football background.
They sign out of it.
So you see when they're doing hidden drills,
they're supposed to do like the running back
supposed to do like run straight
and there's pursuit drill.
And they tell you, hey, don't be the nail.
The run back can be the hammer.
So turn in and hit.
You got to hit them.
These kids have never hit before.
So you see them run right before they get hit.
They turn.
They stop.
Yeah.
And the dad's screaming.
Oh, come on.
And like, hold up, hold up.
Hold up.
Dude, that's natural.
It's normal.
It's very normal.
It's also, it's on you, buddy.
It's fucking on you.
You want to yell at your son.
You literally just bought pads from Dick's sporting goods this morning.
Come on, let you hit him.
And you put them in fucking pads.
And then you're like, oh, oh, you thought, what do you think he was going to be?
Fucking Lovar Arrington, his first day hitting.
They're really yelling at their kid.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, buddy.
Oh, buddy.
Oh, buddy.
Now, they're not yelling at him.
They'll be tough because the kids are down.
Yeah.
But they're like, I can't believe.
Are you kidding me?
I'm like, you can you go put on it?
Have you ever been hit before?
Yeah.
It's not natural.
Some kids it is.
I'll be straight up honest.
Some kids are like, fuck yeah, give me the pads.
Yeah.
You know, the meatheads and they run straight.
Yep.
Boom.
And then there's other kids where it's natural where they shy away.
Yeah, I see.
You can work that out.
My point is these dads like, oh, he just doesn't have them.
Like, you're an idiot.
You're an idiot.
I would see guys come in who are good athletes and they wanted a box.
A couple of them were pro.
baseball players, but they never boxed, right?
And they'd be in there and they'd get hit.
The minute they get hit in the face because you've never been hit in the face,
you do this.
Of course.
Everyone does this.
You go like that.
What the fuck?
You go down.
Of course.
And you have to practice getting, like learning how to make yourself smaller.
Yeah, but the difference is if that's a kid and the dad's like, oh, he's a pussy.
He's like, no, he's not.
He's being a human being.
Yeah.
But if you just bring him back tomorrow and then eventually, oh, I got it.
Yes.
Oh, it's not that scary.
Yes.
So what I do with the kids is I do a thud where they're not fully tackling.
They're hitting each other and not bringing down the ground and they have their pads on
for the first time.
They do that and I go, did it hurt?
No.
Yeah, that's why you have pads on me.
And so they get used to that.
Oh, my, oh, it does.
It's not scary.
But when you start, it's going to be fucking scary, dude.
Of course.
These dads won't act like the fucking play ball.
Unless you know how to navigate some space.
It's not normal.
You're going to be scared.
No, it's not normal.
You're intelligent actually if you're like, I don't want to do that.
Yeah.
You know, this guy, I was in Mekanos, or I was in one of the Greek islands.
I was on one of Greek islands.
And there was this jacked black guy.
And you know, I'm basically a gay man.
And I said, I started talking to him.
And it turned out he was a professional football player.
And he played for eight years in the NFL.
And he was still playing.
And I looked him up.
He had not had any playtime.
He was there.
A guy was on different teams, but never really got much time on the football.
field. And where'd you meet him? Sorry. I was in Greece. I met him and his brother, cool guys.
He spent time in the NFL. Yeah, he was in the NFL eight years. He was in the NFL still when I
met him. Stud. Yeah, Stut. The Nigerian guy. Jacked. Ridiculous. And he's,
Nigerian, but did he grow up in America? Or was he one of those Nigerian freaks where they just
signed him? No, he grew up in America. Okay, okay. And, yeah, different. And, um, and so we were
talking and I said, uh, you're going to go on the water? And he goes, oh, oh, man.
I wish I could
I go what happened he goes
I don't know how to swim
and he goes and he goes
what's it like and he couldn't believe
that I was in the water
and he just want to know what it would be like
to float he goes I got to learn
jump in there bed how old is he was so afraid
he was so afraid he was 28
get the fuck in the water bite and he was afraid
but he was like I'll sink and I was like
but he as big and strong as he was he was watching me
bob around no that's what I'm saying
to your point like I saw this video
it was on TikTok
where they were showing
Josh Hokit football
highlights on the 49ers and it was in a I think he was in a preseason game and he's playing running back
and he's catching the ball running back yeah Josh Hokit yeah it was a running back beast dude beast
but the point is they show Josh hoaget let's just go over it so he's in a official 49ers uniform
helmet jersey says hoak it on it he's playing actual games he's catching the ball he's run the ball
so he got real play time yeah yeah he didn't know he's playing preseason games he's getting actual
reps and I'm watching him and I went oh fuck you
He was, that's so, I know how hard is to even get playtime.
I see it.
I'm like, oh, he was the real deal.
Catching the ball of the backfield.
Now, getting two or three yards, random ball got like two or three yards.
It's not a Ledanyan Thompson highlight.
And the caption went, good thing, uh, Hokit decided to fight.
Here are his highlights.
And it was like a laughing face.
And I thought, oh, man.
Oh, my God.
You have no idea what kind of an affidavis.
You guys are so ignorant.
to what it took for him to get there.
Oh, my, do you have any idea?
The level of football you have to be at
in order to play running back
for the San Francisco 49ers?
As a white guy.
Well, he didn't make the team.
As a white guy.
Oh, you didn't make the team.
Hold on.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to even break into
mini-camp with the San Francisco 40?
You know how.
fucking good you have to be at football.
Well, he was never Emmett Smith.
I get that.
No, I get that.
Josh Hook is a guy that would wrestle.
Division I was All-American and then also play fucking Division I football as a running back.
And then was so gifted, had an opportunity to not only play in the NFL, but suit up as a San Francisco 49er.
Yeah, that's unbelievable.
So if you watch those highlights, like, oh, dude, he didn't rush for a hundred yards.
Like, oh, you know what you are?
You're ignorant.
And that's fine.
You're ignorant.
You have no fucking clue how impressive that is.
Yeah.
Even if he catches the ball and gets tackled, you have no clue that in training camp,
he went through full training camp with the San Francisco 49ers.
The coaching staff saw enough of him, trust him enough of his skill set.
put him in the game as a fucking running back,
and then the offense coordinator has enough trust in him
to call a play where he got the ball several times.
That means that motherfucker was really good at football.
Yeah.
And guess what?
Yeah.
It still didn't work out.
That's how, now when I say it didn't work out,
meaning he's not Christian McCaffrey.
Right.
Meaning he didn't have a nine, 10-year career.
That's why I'd say not.
Now, did it football work out for Josh Oket?
Yes, paid for his college, got an opportunity to play in the NFL.
That would be making it.
Yes.
He made it by every marker possible.
Correct.
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And so if you're listening this,
I told Tiger this one went to his first
like big, big national term.
it the buses get off there's thousands of kids look at tiger you go buddy now i get down on my
knees i go you see how many kids t was like oh my god there's a ton of kids there are mainly black
listen listen i said tiger where do you want to play college football you know oh miss texas
go sure just so you're aware every single kid you see out here including these parents
think they're going division one all of every i can guarantee you every single one of these kids
thousand of them,
thinking they're in division one.
You want me to tell you the odds
of how many these kids are going?
Out of all these kids,
he goes, I may go, maybe two or three.
He goes, what?
Maybe two or three.
Is that really true?
Yeah, yeah, maybe two or three.
Maybe two or three.
Maybe.
Now, they might get lucky.
There might be 10.
Not a lot.
They're not a lot.
So that's what,
literally that's what,
now I'm not an odds guy.
I don't give a fuck.
There's ways to go about it
where you're going to beat the odds.
But,
I'm just letting you know.
So that's what you're dealing with.
On the best high school football team in the nation,
let's take the top five.
This is where it gets a little weird.
How many of them played three ones?
Like for,
you know,
Lake Travis,
big time,
big time high school football.
Yeah.
So how many?
What's like big time?
I think,
man,
I want to say Lake Travis had like eight kids go division one.
Eight.
It's pretty good.
That's impressive.
Eight as in one season?
Yeah.
But now,
how many people on team?
Uh, they pray, I don't know, high school, 50, 60.
But, but, but, but a lot, but it's, but here's what's a little different than back when I was playing.
It's like, even to, it's where it gets weird, like sports are so different now.
In order to make the late Travis baseball team to be a starter on varsity, you have to be so fucking good.
You do.
You're already, the pipeline's already happened.
The times have changed.
So like, and we're only one travel ball team.
So the Texas Mustangs, there's, I don't know how many fucking teams, they have 25 from
the ages of 8 to 16.
And I was talking to one of the big dogs who runs organization.
He goes, you know, it's crazy is most these kids won't even make the late Travis
high school varsity team.
God.
He goes, that's how competitive is now.
So it's already, you're already got a pressure close.
You've already got a bottle.
Yeah, I don't know if it's good.
I don't know if it's good.
It's because now in sports, everything's specialized.
So like most of the Tigers' friends only play baseball.
Jeez.
Other kids only play football year-round.
And all they do is specializing.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Not me.
No, no.
Falls for football.
Springs for baseball.
Yeah.
Summers for becoming a good athlete.
Yeah, man.
Yes.
Now what dabble, he's not just going to not pick up a baseball bat.
you look at the guys that that giant goon on the norway team his parents said we're just going
to develop you as an athlete for yeah becoming the best athlete yeah and and doing all that
doing all that uh the work in football helps out baseball doing the footwork in baseball helps out
football you want the best athlete correct but what so so so so so but so so so so so so so so it's
going to be so tough to make the starting varsity football team or starting baseball team and you know
I think you look at there two starting dans we're like six six two 60 one six four two 50
It's just a different time, Bubba.
God, damn.
So a lot of these kids on the team, genetics has a lot to do with it.
I look at them, the dad's 5-8, the mom's 5-foot.
Yeah, it ain't.
Unless he's like a little shifty running back.
Probably not playing D& or tied-in for Lake Travis.
Just physics.
But now they're opening up a new high school.
They're open up new high school.
So we're 6A.
That new high school is going to be, I think, 4A.
So now you have an opportunity where-
It's not as high level.
Not yet.
It's going to start off at 4A.
But my thing is, is like...
So there are, I didn't even know there are 6A, 4A.
I didn't know.
Oh, Bubba.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesus, dude.
So the coaches of those teams, I mean, it's serious business.
Coaches might get paid six figures.
The Lake Travis coach, football coach, I think, is the highest paid coach in Austin?
It's serious.
It's serious.
It's serious.
Yeah, I always forget.
But here's the thing.
Yes.
I always forget.
Texas football is very serious.
It's big.
Friday night lights, all that stuff.
Very cute 10 years ago.
most places in America are just like Texas now.
Colorado, go to fucking Colorado.
Now, is it the same as Texas where the stadiums are seat 40,000, 30,000 people?
No.
Wait, wait a minute.
Hold on.
Wait, high school football, how many draws, how many people?
Lake Travis, I think seats 30,000-some thousand.
They just built it.
What the fuck?
What?
Oh, you haven't seen it.
What?
You're out in the duties.
Wait, so the football, the high school football games attract 30,000,000 people?
High school football stadiums in Texas.
Are you fucking kidding?
But the lake, so Lake Travis, it'll be done, I think, this year.
They just spent $45 million on a new football facility.
Holy shit, dude.
Talk about pressure.
But that's where we're at in sports.
I don't think it's the route we're going.
I don't think it's good.
So then you get to D1 football.
How many of those D1 kids go to the pros?
Not many.
I mean, what that?
But so, so, I mean,
So to make it all those steps to get to the NFL is ridiculous.
20,000, 19.
And they fill those up.
It's packed, sold out.
So Allen's Eagle Stadium, go down chin, $60 million to build.
Unbelievable, dude.
Go to New Lake Travis football stadium capacity and price.
Dude.
It's pretty cool when you're a football star in Texas.
someone say the coolest
someone say the coolest right
yeah because even like Travis
like baseball team playing the state championship
it ain't like the football championship
it's just not baseball's big here
it ain't football
but again your kid has to be
football's a religion in Texas
yeah your kid has to be so good man
to start is that the one
so 12,000 seats 12,000
so many people
maximum price $48 million
seats 12,000
that is ins
so it's big money
this is big money
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Wow.
And you better start at Tiger's Age.
You better start then.
If you have a chance.
Now here's what's crazy.
Have a chance of starting for your high school, college.
I mean, dude, one step at a time.
Oh, Lord.
But now you can see.
I can get how parents are so rabid and how crazy they are
because everything's escalated.
Everything's heightened.
Everything's so, it's so competitive now.
It's not good, and we're not actually producing more athletes.
Matter of fact, the attendance is down across the board.
Because parents are specializing a young age,
kids are getting burnt out by the time they get to high school,
and they're going, I don't want to fucking do this anymore.
Well, it's a goddamn job.
Facts.
So the age from 7 to 14, I've been grinding, and guess what?
It ain't that fun.
It ain't that fun.
No.
back in the day it was fun yeah but now it's a business yeah but now it's a business yeah man because now
you're talking about because you know they you know that right i'm telling you these kids having four
kids kids figure out at such an early age they go well i might be able to make money off my my name like
image and likeness i might have an i'm an i l deal like you know by the time i'm 14 that's what
they start doing in their minds yes and yeah yeah yeah some of it yeah but my thing is it's like
Are high school kids making money now with the NIA?
Some are.
Yeah, some are.
College kids are.
College kids are big time.
But now you've got to think about, God, why did it get so serious?
Since when are we specializing in it?
Well, because youth sports, travel sports, is a $6 billion a year business.
It's because the suits got involved.
The corporations got involved.
Private equity, yeah.
Private equity got involved.
Chin going, how much does youth sports make?
Just in general, youth sports?
Sure.
Like perfect game, you know?
You don't have type in perfect game, but how am I?
You can do perfect game if you want, but how much does youth sports make a year?
A billion dollar business.
$40 billion.
Oh, my Lord.
$40 billion.
Is that good?
Club, travel teams, terminate entry fees, training academies, private coaching.
Yep.
It's worth noting that the $40 billion is considering.
conservative
Millie reflects private spending
Jesus
estimated 56 billion worldwide
Forecasts
to grow over to 150 billion a year
by 2035
It's the fastest grown segments
of sports industry
Now here's the problem
Is the the participation
Once you move up
The higher difficult levels is down
Because you're
So let's say
Let's say you're a young baseball player
when you grow up in the fucking 60s, right?
And you're seven and you're playing to 13.
How many ball games do you think you play?
Maybe 10 a year.
Yeah.
Kids these days are playing
some, I would say, 20, 30 games a month.
20, 30 games a month in baseball.
20, 30 games a month.
And Brian?
Wait, that's every day.
What do you mean?
Well, they're doing these tournaments that are,
some are on the Wednesday to Sunday and they're playing two game three games three so six six
times uh let's say six six six six times four 24 games a month that's year round year round year round
they might have some they might have two weeks off in july you better make money as a parent
it's very expensive brian it's not good buddy no and guess what and guess what it's not turning
out better athletes it's burning them out there's injuries
Tommy John surgery is up by 80% among kids under 13.
It's not the way to do it.
There's money in that.
But every program, including all these travel programs, they see money in it.
So it's no longer about developing players, the love of the game.
It's a money scheme.
It's a money scheme.
It's a money play.
And they're taking advantage of every parent, especially if the parent doesn't have a background in it.
Like, I'll have, hey, man, we got this hitting coach.
He's an insane, man.
His footwork, how much is he?
Just $200 an hour.
And dude, he was tutelage under Nolan Ryan.
We're good.
We're good.
200 bucks an hour.
We're good.
When it comes to footwork, I got it.
I'll take it from here.
$200 now you have no sports background.
They come up to you and go, man, your kid's footwork's a little slow.
If you work with my guy, he's $100 an hour.
Do it three times a week.
He's probably going to make the team in the spring.
Those parents go, fuck, man, money's tight.
But we really want to make the team.
Who knows?
maybe he'll play high school and they'll play for the Dodgers.
Those poor parents are dropping that money.
So it's this entire, I think, evil scheme taking parents' money,
taking advantage of them not having a background in sports.
I see it all the time, all the time.
Bossie, when we first moved to Texas, we're new.
No one knows Boston Shob, right?
So he got put on the shittiest teams.
The way it works, you're the new kid.
Bossi's cooking.
I'm like, we got to figure that.
I need my better team.
I don't want to have to coach every fucking team
in order for these kids to get good practices.
I got to find somebody to do it.
I go to the best team.
They go, yep, come to,
I'm not going to say who it is.
They go, come to,
they meet at this field every Friday.
Bring Bosti there.
Let's see how he does.
All right, cool.
I go, Bosti.
This could be our opportunity to get on this good team.
I bring Bosti.
There's probably 10,
upper class white kids.
Okay.
When it's all white kids, I always go,
okay.
So I go,
Bossi, go get in there.
They're doing foot drill, foot ladder drills.
Bosti, since he was four, has done foot ladder drills.
So I'm his fucking dad.
We have foot ladders all around the fucking house.
Tiger, that's the footworks tiger's thing.
So he just follows Tiger.
So they get the footwork ladder.
And these kids aren't familiar with it.
He's spending 30 minutes of it, teach him how to do it.
And then he goes, he wants to try it.
He goes, oh, I'll do it because I do it with my fucking dad all the time.
Boss, he goes, whoa, it's like, yeah, yeah, man.
Yeah.
So they go through all that.
Bossy cooks, right?
Cooks.
The dad comes out goes, man, that kid can play.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, not bad, man.
His older brother has to keep up with him, right?
And we do a lot of work.
He's familiar with stuff.
He goes, yeah, man.
So today's just $150.
I go, excuse me?
He goes, yeah, so today, it's, you know, we meet here every Friday.
And it's just a park.
Just $150.
And I go, oh, you got 10 kids here, too.
Every Friday?
$150?
times 10.
That's good money.
I go, you have a background football?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I played a little bit in college and kind of failed out from there.
Now, those parents who have no sport background go, oh, he played in college.
Where'd you play at?
Alcorn State.
Okay, not good football.
In my head, I go, not good football.
But these parents here are college football, even though he played one year,
probably on the scout team, he's their lord and savior.
He's fucking Dion Sanders to them.
So he takes advantage of it.
He charges those parents $150.
to do a fucking foot ladder drill and a few fucking catches.
And they think their kids, the next fucking Christian McAfee.
All sports, Brian.
All sports are this way.
And it's not good.
And unfortunately, it's on the parent to kind of navigate the way through that.
What's bullshit?
Very difficult.
It's impossible.
Everybody's got their handout.
Unless you have a background in this.
Yes.
It's almost damn there impossible not to get taken advantage of.
It's not good.
The direction you sports are going is a disaster.
And it's only to make money at the expense of your lack of knowledge in professional sports.
And if you looked at the actual odds of your child making it and you look at your genetics,
you're literally taking away his childhood.
Did you think he's the next fucking Freddie Freeman?
I got news for you.
Freddie's 6'5.
Freddie didn't have all this.
Freddie had his dad who'd hit with him in the backyard.
That's right.
Freddie didn't have to do all this.
I didn't know.
Freddie Freeman was 6'5.
Yeah, Freddy had this.
Freddie had this.
Bring up Freddie Freeman.
I didn't know he was that tall.
That's fucking nuts.
But he's a fucking beast.
You get close to people and you're like, oh, well.
Freddy's a fucking beast.
I had no idea.
It was that tall.
I had no idea of six five.
I thought he was like.
First face.
Wow.
Yeah, but you're right.
I mean, just, you're right.
But again, but again, Freddie, Dionne Sander,
name any athlete your son looks up to.
Patrick Mahomes.
They didn't have these resources.
No, it's a business.
You're damn right.
He's 6-5.
Look at him next to Otani.
Tiger Glass now, 6-8.
Pitcher.
Sorry?
Tyler Glass now, 6-8.
Pitcher.
6-8.
The guy you were talking about, his coach.
The Mizz?
Well, fucking.
The Miz is who's pitching,
fastest pitches ever.
He's pitches 104,
103 consistently.
He's 6-6.
So what do you want to do?
I mean, yeah, that's a whole different thing.
He looks like a tall dude just by sitting down.
Yeah, it's a different thing.
He looks like that actor, Killian Murphy.
Hey, the nurse is here.
Okay.
He's a beast.
Tyler's a beast.
A beast.
Super beast.
Well, guys.
Freak.
I hope you learned a lot about youth sports.
That's my rant.
That's fascinating.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe people are fucking checked out.
It's fascinating to me.
I'm telling you, man, parents.
Because I was sitting there going, before you did that, I was sitting there going, man, I, I, I feel like, I feel like those kids have such an advantage.
It's so good.
And then you're like, it's not good.
They're too young for that shit.
But you know what the best thing you can do?
Not hire a private coach for footwork and make it fun.
And this, you know what you do?
You call some of the friends over, get pizza, and have them play in the backyard where there's no pressure and they can take risk.
And they do one-handed catches.
And they do these cool moves that they feel too much pressure to pull off in front of coach.
they figure out their athletic kind of boundaries.
That's how you get good at football.
I don't think a lot of those kids in the NFL who are black and came from,
I don't think they had those resources.
No.
No.
They did exactly what you said.
That's exactly.
Well,
where are you going to be a B?
Louisville and Maryland,
McGuby's joke house July 17th and 18th,
San Antonio, Texas, July 24, 25, 26.
Come get some.
I'm going to be at Laugh Out Loud Comedy Club in San Antonio, Texas,
July 2426.
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