The Fighter & The Kid - Mike Catherwood | TFATK Ep. 1093

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

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Yes we did, cause we back at it again, it's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. We got Mike Catharwood here and we're having a very... Austin, Austin resident. That's right, sir. You came here before the whole movie. I did come here before it was cool. Before it was cool.

And I wish I could say like I had some idea that it was going to be cool. I just... You brought us eggs. I did bring you eggs. Fresh eggs from your guinea fowl or chickens? These are from chickens. These are from chickens. Yeah. Guinea fowl don't lay eggs or they do? They do and they're delicious. I like them, but they're very similar to like a duck egg or something where they're very rich and the shells are hard as shit. So duck eggs are rich? I like duck eggs, but they're a much more like strong taste. Did you move out to Texas for the farm life?

Cause you're like proper farm life. Oh yeah. I live on a farm. Big change. I don't live on like a wellness influencer farm. I live on a farm. I'm a farmer. Yeah.

I got to come. I got to come to your house. I want to see this. Yeah, me too. It's, oh, you guys are always, I've invited you 10,000 times. So how far away is it from here? Yeah. How long?

Uh, 20 minutes maybe. Everything's about 20 minutes. Bro, let's go to his house and just get up. Yeah, let's get up in the farm. Maybe we bang a couple of sheep. No, I need to talk to my man Chin over here because you guys in this studio are perfectly between my farm and my daughter's school.

You couldn't be more equidistant, so I need to figure out a way so you guys can help me work and get a job and do stuff. You want to work? You getting a little stir crazy just doing jiu-jitsu and working a farm? No, I mean, I got to be honest. Like I talk in a microphone for that's my only skill.

And I'm tired of not doing it like well because I don't, I'm not going to be like that guy talking into a Bluetooth mic in my house anymore because I don't have a studio. I don't have a studio. I don't have friends. Is there that many opportunity in Austin as far as radio goes? Radio? There's literally none.

In fact, the radio jobs I've been, the radio jobs I've been marinating on are all out of LA and New York, but they, I, they'll like, we have 10 studios in Austin, like Austin local radio, which is quite good when I've listened to it. I, there's no opportunity, but there's insane. I mean, this is the Dubai of podcasts and content creation. Cause like everyone around here is doing that.

You know? That's true. I just, I'm not like, I'm not in that world, you know? But you contemplate this before you moved, right? Like you're coming to Texas, you're on a farm, obviously it's a far cry from LA as far as entertainment. Yeah, I did. I did. And I didn't think it was necessarily the best idea, but I did it anyway.

I get it. I thought this is definitely what's best for my family and our wellbeing overall. And my daughter's going to go to school without having people messing with her. my daughter's going to go to school without having people messing with her and she's, and I'm going to raise my kid around like. Normal. Animals that she can help me rear and get to know death and life and the beauty of growth. I said, there's so much there.

This is probably shooting myself in the foot career wise though. Yeah. And, and I. But your wife's an actress, right? My wife's an actor. That makes it even. And, and let's like, I love love to say, well, my male ego

allowed me to take a step back. The reality was, I looked at it, I was like, OK, financially, I'll survive. Because I'm very lucky my wife's successful and a working actor. But at the same time, there was something that comes with, aside from the finance, of I was never good at shit.

I didn't grow up like it's someone who was like, had this wealth of, and I found radio and people who were good, really good, or everyone says is really good at radio, told me you're doing a good job. And it meant so fucking much to me that it was very hard to kind of make that. You found your niche.

Yeah. How long did it take you to, you moved here where you realized that it's gonna be tough to get back in radio Wait, it's not a farm today nearly immediately picking up cow shit nearly immediately And then then I thought I was like, hey, you know at the time it's 2021 or something maybe Terrestrial radio isn't like the best choice. Anyway, like I should start thinking about it's kind of going out. And I realized like, like investing in a blockbuster, the stuff that carries over

to being great in kind of the digital world, isn't necessarily the same thing. Sure. There's some transfer. Oh, it's like, let's say if you were a WBA champion and you wanted to get into MMA, is there some crossover? Sure. But it's not like plug and play, like just because you're a great boxer, you're going to be a great MMA, but it's not necessarily true. There's Like just because you're a great boxer, you're going to be a great MMA fan. It's not necessarily true.

There's a different, it's a kind of a different beast. I don't know. How about that AI shit I was sending you those videos? That your nephew made? My nephew made, yeah. It's like, I just don't know what to expect from the future. You don't shut up about AI, huh? Yeah, but I don't think anybody should shut up about AI

because AI is going to, AI is very interested in us. Like AI is going to change this business, like I think in a way that we don't even realize. I think it's going to be so disruptive. It's more disruptive than literally anything. But it's only going to be, I agree with you completely. And look, it's not like I'm, you know, David Mamet or something, who's this Hollywood mega guy, but I just

don't think like the other day, okay, here's what I mean. I think it's going to obviously create content and it's going to keep a lot of people on their toes and it's going to take a lot of people out of maybe necessarily working in certain ways because it can create content and can create it easily. That's it's going to affect business. No, no doubt about it. But AI made this Nirvana song the other day. Like it isn't a song that they wrote and Kurt never, it just, they put all Nirvana's music into AI and then they said, make a new song. And it was good.

And it was kind of crazy how similar it sounded to Kurt Cobain's voice and kind of Dave's style of drumming, but it wasn't good. It wasn't a Nirvana song. You know what I'm saying? So here's what I think AI is gonna be used as. I'll give you an example. I came up, my nephew actually came up with a really good idea

for a commercial for a luggage brand. Yeah, good. And then he said, I think I can... So you come up with the idea, it's a man and a woman in bed. And they're discussing something. You think they're discussing sex, they're actually discussing the bag. So-

That's funny. How old is this kid? He's unbelievable. He's 24, he's so fucking talented. I didn't even realize it. I didn't realize it. He's like amazing. But what I'm saying is that,

so I would have to hire a director, lighting, set design, rent a place, cast actors. He goes, let me just do something. He goes on Sora Gemini 2.0 and another app. And these two actors who are AI generated, not even real, and they're doing the whole thing and I went, well, but that's what... That's what we talked about.

But they're also just as good as any, they're perfect. That's a good thing. They're good actors. But that's a good thing. It cost me nothing. Yeah, it's a good thing. I can just do that and send it.. What does that do about the whole industry when I say the actors are great? Oh, I want somebody who's fat just make him fat

Like just make him fat. He had me coming down as the man as this dragon the man dragon It was a dragon. I go. Can you make this is what I say to him. I go. It looks awesome Can you make the dragon fat? And when he lands, he kind of fucking just dies because he's so fat. And he goes, yeah. Half hour later, there's a giant fat dragon. I go, no, my God, no, the man dragon.

And boom, and it just lands. It goes boom, and bounces, and then lands again. And it's because boom, and breaks its neck and kind of falls in the dust. And I was like, you did that? And he goes, yeah, I just prompted. Like that would have caused, that special effect one year ago,

one year ago would have been, cause I priced it out. That would have been another 10 grand. But I don't think, okay, here's, you're right. And- More than that actually. There's a, you know, 10,000 people in sag right now that are like, I'm going to be out of work.

But at the same time, I was watching the original Star Wars, like maybe six months ago with my daughter. And it holds up. Yeah. I tried to show my son the story. Holds up. The whole story. The story holds up.

It's so boring. He's five. Yeah, well, five honestly probably. He's like, where's Darth Vader? Just fast forward to Darth Vader. Full disclosure, I've never been into the Star Wars stuff. I'm not like a guy who's going to get into the Lord. Yeah, well five at five honestly probably because he can't like where's Darth Vader? Just five or two I've never ended the Star Wars stuff, but I'm not like a guy who's gonna get into the Lord Yeah, you are your what I was is I was looking at how chilling it was the first time Darth Vader enters and they're running

The guys are rebels are running like fuck open the thing and he just opens like quietly opens up the lightsaber and The and the lighting and lighting and the special effects in 1977 or whatever it was because they worked so hard they didn't have the technology. Yes. It works so hard to achieve that practically it transcends what a computer. Brother, have you seen that remix with AI? With, for who? The Bell Tolls with Metallica? Bro, no. I got goosebumps. It almost came. With Bell Tolls with Metallica? Bro, no. I got goosebumps. No, no, no.

It almost came. It almost came. Oh, buddy. Jen, look this up. Darth Vader. For Whom the Bell Tolls Metallica. And they play that song over when he comes out. You see his red saber go zoom.

Oh, I don't know this. It's way, you can't believe how it's amazing. It's one of the top five songs of all time. But then with Darth Vader, it fucking slaps. And you don't have to be a Darth Vader or Star Wars fan. Yeah, you really don't. Ready or go, right there. Watch this.

So this isn't the real one. This is with the song. Have you seen this case? Yeah. Yeah, I get goosebumps. He just frecks them. Just frecks their words. Just calmly. Can you imagine if Star Wars added this?

Like look at that. Look at that special effects. That's pretty badass. There's no CGI. How dope is that? Wow. You just think like that. And don't get me wrong, I mean like some of these Marvel movies or some of the Fast and Furious, it's amazing visually, but you know it's just a team of computers creating that. When you watch that, you're like, wow. You're still gonna need quality. You're still gonna need thought. You're still gonna need human beings to be better at AI

than the other guys better at AI. That's it. It's a tool. It's a tool. There's AI, like you said, the actors were so good in what your nephew was creating. There's no AI Christian Bale, there's no AI Daniel Day-Lewis.

That's not happening ever. That's very true. It doesn't ever exist. My friend said that too, he's a filmmaker, and he said, it was like, oh, first day I film, he goes, I know, he said something so interesting. He goes, oh yeah, it was really good. Did you feel anything?

What'd you feel? And I went, fuck. And it's also like, when you're doing commercials and you want to be sold to, nobody wants to be sold to. I definitely don't want to be sold to using AI. Now you've really alienated me. Right, so you're treating me like I'm, what are you treating me, like you're going to

program my mind, fuck off. But they're using those machines for car parts too. Yeah, they are. For what? For like car parts. Absolutely. And fabrication is amazing. When what? For like car parts. Absolutely. And fabrication is amazing. When they looked at my veins at my heart, right?

So they look at the plaque buildup, you get to a certain age, they used AI. They used AI to look at everything. And they were like, fucking you are. Did you look at the documents? They said you're a cadaver. They said you are immortal. You're immortal.

It was pretty cool. You are kind of immortal. I was going jujitsu with you the other day, like a month ago. I are kind of a mortal. I was bowling jiu-jitsu with you the other day like a month ago. I'm like, you fuck. You really are like a 25-year-old guy. Well, I feel good. I feel good.

That thick, that thick, veiny dog too. I feel like they could just take a flashlight to your chest and saw the veins up. I showed them my balls the other day and they were like, what? So yeah. Yeah, those balls are nice. Yeah, the pieces. I don't think I've ever seen them. I was wearing sweats today when I was boxing and I said to the guys is this these pants make my dick look fat

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Like short shorts to the pool, you know, my mother-in-law and father-in-law staying with us and I was like, yeah, these will work They're fucking yellow. I just tossed him on I can the water my wife's like you gotta go change I'm like what the fuck she's like your whole dick they got wet We can see everything. But wouldn't your wife kind of, that's the difference between men and women. If like my wife's labels were coming, I'd be like, yeah, okay. I wouldn't say anything. I'm like, hell yeah. We're good. She was like, you have to go change.

Your body, you're, you're, you're a big obscene guy though. You're, you're getting, you're so juicy right now. My mother-in-law and father-in-law is there. I'm like, cocks out of the pool. It's a problem. Yeah. It's a problem. You're, you're, you're, it's But my mother-in-law and father-in-law was there in my cocks out at the pool. It's a problem. Yeah. It's a problem. It's uncomfortable because you're just a giant. Oh, and the kids were laughing so hard. They're laughing so hard.

Well, you're a giant. I can see the outline. And I hear Basti at five go, Dad has the hairiest wiener by far. Dad has the hairiest wiener. I'm like, hey, be cool, man. Be cool, darling. They can just see the hair matted against your body.

That's a drag. Is the funniest thinged against your body. That's attractive. Is the funniest thing you mentioned, you talked about feeling it. Like when you can you feel something and not to get too corny. But that is something like, sometimes you can't almost put it into words. You can't manufacture it.

Like I was watching, I don't know if you guys have ever seen a movie, beginning of his career, probably 15 year old movie, 10 year old movie called, uh, half Nelson with Ryan Gosling. Yeah. He plays a middle school teacher in a very low income neighborhood. Yeah.

It's a good movie. And he's addicted to drugs. Oh. And, uh, it was so. Good movie. Spot on that. I found, I was very upset. I had a very upset stomach and I was, I was tearing, I wasn't like, but I was, and I didn't notice it. I was actually, I was I was very upset. I had a very upset stomach and I was tearing.

I wasn't like, oh, but I was tearing and I didn't notice it. I was actually, I was like 20 minutes into me crying watching this movie and I was like, oh my God, I'm that affected. It was almost visceral. I didn't, my brain didn't recognize. Isn't that amazing though? Like when you see movies like that,

like Once We're Warriors, do you remember that fucking movie? You remember Whale Rider? Remember that? I that I saw like these are movies back in the day where I mean just they're old movies but man the hardest I ever cried in a movie was here at the dragon with Mickey work when he goes to his wife's dead and he and that the Chinese guy goes to pay respects that movie is fucking incredible but the Chinese mafia, damn. The hardest I've ever, it's funny, I was just thinking about movies that made me cry,

because some of them are embarrassing. But the hardest I ever cried at a film, and it actually made it unenjoyable to watch it, even though the movie was so good, was seeing Savvy Private Ryan in the theaters. Yeah, I can't watch more of these. It became a negative experience. Can't get enough of it.

I was so touched by it. It was a negative experience. I was like, this is awful. Yes, I can't. Mine was invincible. Oh yeah. And I just, my football career just ended. Then that movie came out and I went to it

and I was crying in the theater. Oh man. Oh man. Well, because it's so personal, right? It's like, God. Wanna know, there's a couple that are embarrassing, like I said. Coco, the animated film Coco.

My wife cries a lot. I still cry like a baby. Really? I've watched it seven times, I cry every time. Really? I never saw it. The end of Rain Man, when, I'm gonna cry talking about it, when Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman just touch

heads. It's like they didn't break down crying and like, I love you brother. Dustin Hoffman still kind of rambling incoherently Tom Cruise and he just touches. That's a great fucking right. Because it was so delicate. It was so real. You know, it's so real. It's a lot of it's that a lot of it's like not being able to express yourself and you just kind of, you know, yeah. Yeah. Do you remember Empire of the Sun? Oh, dude. Dude.

That's when you got it. That's when you knew Christian Bale was this shit. Jesus, he was a kid. He was a baby, yeah. Christian Bale was a kid and Steven Spielberg and that Japanese fucking, that Japanese drill, guy who was running the concentration camp and just the last thing he says, he goes, difficult boy.

Difficult boy. And he just goes and just takes off. Dan Stillers in it? There's a couple Schindler's List scenes where you're like, I'm good. I don't know if I need to watch that anymore. It's a great movie, though. Oh, fucking achievement.

Achievement in art is Schindler's List. But there's definitely some moments where I was like, well, I'm good. I'm not going to watch that. If you remember that movie came out on Christmas. Did it? Yeah. Well, more importantly, around Hanukkah.

Yeah. Yeah, Schindler's List was hellish. Yeah, I saw the theater. I think it was like 89, if I'm guessing correctly. Yeah. I'm a 10-year-old kid. Schindler's List was released. And my best friend's mom took us to see it.

And I mean, I'll be very honest, like I grew up in a very. No, what time of year was the release date? 1993. I remember I went to pastor in the Christ of my grandma who was super religious and she was bawling. Even if you're not. I was like, December 15th. December 15th. I remember my dad saw it the day after Christmas she was bawling. Even if you're not, I was like, look, December 15th.

I remember my dad saw the day after Christmas and was so depressed. Good call. It's worse than you can think. And I don't mean obviously the Holocaust is worse. Of course, Schindler's List, like how far they go, it's like, God, I don't know. This is uncomfortable.

Do you see Passion of the Christ? Rogan calls me and goes. It's a real asshole thing. He goes, do you see that Passion of the Christ? I go, no. I go, what did you think? He goes, it's watching the guy get the fuck kicked out of him for two and a half hours.

Really, it's just an asshole for two hours. He was so confused. He was so confused. He's like, what the fuck? It was back when he was just so aggro. Yeah, it was brutal. I, oh, you, would you guys see, God, I wish I could, I'm not even gonna remember the name.

It was such a good movie, I can't even remember it. It came out like a year, maybe two years ago, and it was about one of the camps, I believe Auschwitz, but they don't show it. He's one of the commanders at Auschwitz or one of these camps, and he lives with his family right next to it. Okay? And the movie's about his family life.

And like, but in the background you see like smoke stacks and you're screaming. And it's just. What is that movie? Did you see Jojo? It was so good. It was so worth it. Did you see Jojo Rabbit?

I haven't. Oh, we know what I did. Yes, I know, yeah, but three or four years with Scarlett Johansson's voice. It's good. It's about Hitler, right? Who? But it's kind of of comedy. It's kind of comedy, but then also. It's a Hitler comedy. But it is and it isn't. There's a heartfelt moment, like when his mom, because she was trying to help the Jews and they find out and then, and they would hang all the Jews in the middle. And the little boy, since he's so small, he just sees shoes and his mom had this special pair of shoes she always wore.

And then he can't find his mom, he goes out there and just shows her shoes hanging. It's happy. Zone of interest. Zone of interest. Thank you, Jen. Thank you, guys. Jesus Christ.

And I can't recommend that movie enough because I love that it made it about this commander's kind of his personal life. Just doing his job. His professional life and dealing with his wife and different dimensions. You just see like, yeah, different dimensions, different dimensions. Anything with, with world war two.

I watch, I love it. When did you get interested in that? Because my grandpa, since I was a kid, he had all these Nazi, my son's interested in world war two. How old is he? 13. Oh yeah. Oh, Finn is not there.

I'm gonna say that you're two year old. I'm like, that's a little he? 13. Oh, yeah. Finn is not there. You're two year old. I'm a little early. No, world. It's a little early World War. Like, let's wrap our heads. Like that happened. Well, World War II is a continuation of World War One, right? It's really considered the the European Civil War, which was the destruction of old Europe was started in 1914 and ended in 1945. And we have about literally 120 million graves to show for it. And- World War I is under-hyped.

It's underhyped. It was awful. It was horrible. And Nietzsche predicted it. Nietzsche said that now that you've killed the Christian God, the Judeo-Christian God, you will create your own gods and Europe will be a slaughterhouse. Well, and also like on a more basic, just like bro level, Germany was so fucked in 1917, 1918 from the fallout of, the lead into World War I was bad to begin with,

but then the fallout after that war, because that war was, World War I made all other war look like baby shit. Like the gas in the trench. And it's just, it's horrific. It's unreal. People were living with those dead bodies. They were just in the soil, and you were just there, and they couldn't get clean.

Did you see All Quiet on the Eastern Front? Bro. Yeah. And when you do a remake of a movie like All Quiet on the Western Front, you think to yourself like, well, there's no way. Same with True Grit. When I went to see True Grit, the remake, I'm like, that was one of John Wayne's greatest achievements.

And you see it and you're like, oh, you did better. You did better. It's amazing. World War I, I've read this really interesting write-up about how organized crime, essentially, in America and the UK, like you've seen with the Peaky Blinders, those were real dudes. I mean, it's fictionalized, but that was based on real people.

Correct. Yes. It all grew out of the guys who were lucky enough or unlucky enough, depending on how you look at it, to survive World War I, then go back to where they came from, were fucking crazy. Like these, the Sal Capone era guys in Chicago and all over.

And these- Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Burke's dad, grandfather, he had been burned by, by nerve gas. So his whole face on this side, and he was a member of the White Hand Gang. He was a straight up gangster, boxer. And he was a member of the White Hand Gang. He was a straight up gangster boxter. And he came back, his uncle came back, they just slipped right into the underworld.

You look at the motorcycle gangs after Vietnam, same thing. Just wild boys are like, what the fuck are we going to do? Get nine to five? No, not now. No, we're all going to partner up and fucking do our thing? Especially if you already start out as a bit of a killer. You know, now it's like, well, this is the world. And if you think about it, for a lot of people,

when you've only been immersed in the dog-eat-dog murderous world, there's certain parts of the world where you get, you know, the world is, if you're a certain ethnic minority or whatever, you realize people want to kill you, they do kill you, and might is the only way to stay alive is to be strong and crafty as fuck. So you got to embrace the angels of your darker nature and not the angels of your better nature,

the angels of your darker nature, because life is always a fight and it ain't ever going to end. And if you think it is and you get relaxed, they're going to come for you. And so it changes your whole- The gym I work out, they have this sign. I love the gym. It's such a meathead gym, but it's a new one you found. Yeah.

You found a gym. Yeah. Oh, he did. I ever did. Yeah. But it has these intense, like, did I ever, it has these like intense banners, like in there, all former military dudes, like meatheads, and then it has this like old school cannon.

It says, try to take our guns. I'm like, that's intense. You know, I'm like, I'm like lift. I'm like, that's intense. I was saying, like, have they ever tried to take our kids? No. Can we relax a little bit? Yeah. Well, you can and you can't because, and the Texas people have a Texas thing. And I love, I mean, I'm saying this positively, but you got to remember it's the only state that's ever was ever its own country. Yeah. That's a Texas thing. And I love, I mean, I'm saying this positively, but you got to remember it's the only

state that's ever was ever its own country. Yeah. That's right. And people here really, I grew up in California and I've lived, I'm 46. I probably lived 42 years of my life, 41 years of my life in California. In four or five years of living in Texas, I've seen 4,000% more Texas flags in four years than I ever saw California flags in my whole life. 100%. People love Texas here in Texas. And I frankly think that's kind of cool. Me too.

There is a Texas culture that I appreciate. Oh, on the last episode, I was like, oh, we need good recommendations for barbecue. I got, I don't know, hundreds, hundreds from local Texans. Did you get any dudes in like Memphis though that were like you're not gonna get any good man barbecue there cuz you Kansas City to the Kind of like it's funny, you know, it's it's it's non-threatening stuff But they all break it down like Franklin's too busy too long of a line. Don't do that Terry Black's too famous now food qualities down you got to go in this little like remote place interstellar Cedar Park

which is pretty close to here it's it's more my my son's out right now interstellar is uh is very good and I was here apart from here what's that how far away is Cedar Park from here 10 15 it's right across Mississippi I usually I call out a river I usually take a helicopter so I understand I went to this morning. You with Shane, Shane Steiner, right? All the time. Shane's my boy.

I like Shane a lot. I love Shane. He can roll too. He can do some, Oh no, Shane hurts me. He can do some jujitsu. That fucker can smash. Interstellar's the move.

Interstellar's a fantastic, I recommend it very much. And I think you guys would enjoy it very much. Because another thing I like about Interstellar is, of course, brisket ribs, you get your basic, but they also have, they'll be making a random gumbo just to flex their muscles, and they make a lot of lamb too. I like lamb meat.

It's family owned. I'm not sure. I'm 100% in that. I wanna go there. I'm into that. Now you roll with a bunch of people where jujitsu's their job. Yes. Now you're very good.

Their jujitsu's their job, or it's one of their main hobbies when they're not murdering people overseas. That's right. That's right. It's like if they're not special force tier one operators, they're doing, they're rolling in jujitsu. You're a very good purple belt, very athletic guy. Thank you, dude.

And you're rolling with some butt monsters, butt monsters. Have you, you roll, Tim Kennedy's a good time, right? He's fun to roll with. Have you ever gotten any kind of a position on him? Is he, is he, no. No, I've never, I've never. And when I have that, that fleeting moment, like the other day I was rolling with him and I was in half guard and he went to pass like, and I, and I locked up like a Kimura

grip and I thought I was going to do like this passing escape from the bottom. Sure. And like, there was like for like a half a second, I'm like, I got this. And then he was somehow submitting me on my leg. Yeah. And I don't wait, how are you a purple belt in gear? No, I, I, I do both, but I received my purple belt under Tim and at grace you might.

So, I mean, I guess technically kind of both, but I enjoy. I received my purple belt under Tim and at Gracie Humaita. So, I mean, I guess technically kind of both, but I enjoy, I think it's important for me to train in the gi as much as I can, but I enjoy no gi. You do have to. I enjoy no gi more and I'll be very honest with you because I'm a little jacked and I get sweaty

and I can get away with it. Yeah. When I'm in gi, guys who are technically better than me, they just really wear me out. Guys who are technically better than me and no ghee, who are very many people I treat with, I can at least survive a little longer because I got a little muscle and I get sweaty

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than most guys in jujitsu. Yes. But submission-wise and defense-wise, working in the gi, it sharpens your blade. So, because there's so many grips. Your guy, your guy you're going with, especially if he's better than you, has so many grips, he has so many ways to end the fight,

that you have to get really good and really high, really aware of everything. Your IQ goes through the roof. Really? I agree. And it's, yeah, it's the proper way to learn, but everyone wants the fast tracks. Yeah. And also, and also let's not kid ourselves.

If you're, if you're Nicky Rod or if you're Gordon, if you're Jack and you're really good, you can just, you can fucking bludgeon in the no-gi. You can just fucking smash. And it makes it, no, you're wrong. You can do it in gi, but it's hard. If you're 235 and just technically brilliant. Taking, there's something very primal too, also about not feeling essentially naked in the no-gi.

Have you rolled with Gordon Ryan? I have not. I met the man and he was very nice to me, but I don't. not like feeling essentially naked in the no. Have you, have you rolled with Gordon Ryan? I have not. I met the man and he was very nice to me, but I don't, I don't, I have a hard time. It's like, it's, it's very similar to comedy scene and radio guys. Like if I'm like, I know the guys from the Legion of Skanks.

Like I, Lewis has always been cool to me. I really liked it. But then I'll talk to some guy who's like, oh, fuck those guys. I'm like, guys, this is uncomfortable. You're very nice to me. I really like that. But then I'll talk to some guy who's like, fuck those guys. I'm like, guys, this is uncomfortable. You're very nice to me. They're very nice to me. I don't want to get involved in all that weird politics. The B-Team guys have been so cool to me.

I like Nicky Rod a lot. But those guys know that. They're not like, oh, you were talking to frickin' Dorn Ron. Right, right. I just don't want. I mean, it's frankly, you're right, they do. And everyone's kind of mature about it. But at the same time, it gets uncomfortable, you know?

I feel like Craig Jones is the jackal, he's the jester on the outside, as always. He's so hard to dislike, because he's so funny. You guys are comics, you guys are, he's legitimately funny. I told him that, I go, dude, you're so funny, he was showing me some of the shit he did, I was like, you're fucking funny, man. But Australian accent, and I've talked to Jason Ellis about this too

Australian accent is like Boston accent if you're funny or clever or a shit good shit talker that accent It turns it up enough to turn up Boston accent is such a good shit talking accent, you know, they It just sounds good. Yeah 100% You know, but all those get before we went live on it We're talking about like why do crazy horsepower and stuff like that. Oh yeah. These two guys are the same.

Yeah, well, I know, I was thinking like for most men, a lot of men who end up being successful or whatever, like we need more constantly, more and more and more. Moderation is not, you know, now you'll get an addiction. It might be women, it might be cars, it might be money, it might be whatever. But I think ultimately, you have to come to terms with it, right? You, the engine is there, and you've got to figure out, like, you've got

to say, why is this happening? Why do I want 1300 horsepower versus 1100 horsepower? Obviously, it's ridiculous. It doesn't make a difference at all, even a little bit, but in your mind it's like, oh, but I want the 13. It is, look, there's, the only thing I can compare it to, and it's the only one I have enough kind of behind the scenes knowledge about, and not because I'm so cool,

but because growing up being in LA radio, I became very friendly and being a lifelong season ticket holder to both Dodgers and Lakers. I'm not, my dad was, so by proxy. I was very interested in that I got to be friends with the media, Lakers media and Dodgers media. So I would get a little bit behind the scenes. And a lot of great athletes have lore behind them

and you don't know how much of it is fairy tale. The stuff about Kobe, it's an understatement. He was to the day he retired, the first one at practice and the last one to leave. And when people would be, he's yelling at them, you're a soft ass bitch. That's actually different. There's a difference. I disagree. I know you do, but it's different. Being obsessed with cars or being obsessed with money, I think is different than being obsessed with being the best of all time at what you do. It's actually a different consideration. Sure.

Right? So it's like, Kobe was so focused on actually having tangible, measurable results. That being, Kobe, you are the best of all time, whatever it might be at this. That level of mastery, trying to master something through repetition, through attention to detail, it'd be a little bit like saying,

I want to be the greatest race car driver of all time. Being into more horsepower, regardless of its utility, because it's just there, wanting all the women, not just these two women over here or this one woman over here, whatever that must, that's a different, that's a different impulse. But they're cousins. They're definitely cousins.

Because Kobe also had a ton of girlfriends. Kobe also, after he retired, was relentless and obsessed with creating animation in one of fucking Oscar. Really? OK. Yeah. No, no, no. They are cousins.

They're closer in cousin to their fucking brothers. Maybe Kobe just redirected that insanity to one thing. I think that level of it's a disease you have inside you. And I don't mean the disease is negative. It's like a gene you have. And because what separates Trump from Warren Buffett? Warren Buffett's like, I achieved a lot. I worked really hard for it.

I have a beautiful family. I'm comfortable here in Indiana, wherever he lives in his- Oklahoma. Oklahoma. And he has this beautiful place. And he likes his old mobile. What is Trump thinking? He's like, I he lives in his Oklahoma. And he has this beautiful place. It's a, and he likes my, his old mobile or whatever. He's like, what is Trump thinking? He's like, I've made a beautiful, I need to be a TV star.

I'm going to be president by twice and no one's going to stop me. And if it drives me insane, if it drives thousands of people and saying, so what, this is what's going to happen. And, and, and I mean that as a, both a, a, wow, it must be hard to have that. But at the same time, even this is not a partisan statement, even if you're the biggest Trump hater in the world, if there was to be some global incident where the, the health and the wellbeing of the United States was at play and Donald Trump flies over there and sits down with the world leader that's putting

the United States in danger, you don't think it's going to be a good thing for us? Well, so just so you guys know, I mean, I don't, the Washington Post and Pam, the spokesman correctly called this when I saw it, I lost my mind. The Washington Post, because they're so fucking dumb, goes the mysterious client fentanyl. Hey, hey, Washington Post, hey, liars, fucking liars. You editorial board know better than this because you're a bunch of liars, scumbags, pieces of shit. You guys know what happened.

He went to Shine Bomb and they went to the cartels and said, listen, fuckos, what's going to happen is I'm going to declare you a terrorist organization. That means I can send the dark side, I can send the dark side to your country and I don't need your permission. And if you think you want to take on the tier one operators in our military or the ground branch division of CIA, et cetera, and all those task forces, please tempt us. And they knew that Trump wasn't fucking around.

And it might, the Shine Bomb had a different idea of how to deal with the cartels. The cartels know who Trump is. And the cartels knew exactly what that language was, which was we will fucking bury you. Do you want to have a war? Because we'll give you a war. And the Trump administration said to them,

stop the human trafficking and stop the fentanyl right fucking now. That's the non-negotiable. And the cartels went, okay. And that's why. And that's why. So a little credit where it's deserved. Much praise and serious compliment.

This is a compliment to President of the United States Trump, but this is similar to, I read the biography, finally finished it, took me forever, of Andrew Jackson, President Andrew Jackson, and Kobe Bryant. If you've heard the story of the most recent Olympics with the super team, and you're talking about Dwyane Wade, you're talking about LeBron.

LeBron and his prime. You're not talking about, this is a collection of high achievers, high functioning dudes, and they said, he's fucking crazy. Game one against Spain. He goes, play as soon as I can first play, I'm gonna go right through, pal. That's his best friend.

And they're like, sure you are, sure you are, Kobe. I mean, that's your best friend. He's like, no, seriously. And they're like, but why? He's like, I have to set it, he is my best friend. He's my teammate. But tonight, we're enemies. I have to set the tone.

And they're thinking, okay, sure, Kobe, but fucking smacking, and you can see Pal Gasol's face lying on the ground. Like, what the fuck? And Kobe just walks away. Like, I got to do it. Trump, Andrew Jackson. Trump's genius is letting people think he's crazy. Do you know?

He's just, he's unpredictable. Do you know Andrew Jackson? Yes. Passes away. Yeah. Okay. As they. Explain to Brennan and the audience. Do you know he's just he's unpredictable. Do you know Andrew Jackson? Yes passes away? Yeah, okay is they explained it Ben and the audience Andrew Jackson was

literally had a He had been shot and he had to let that he had a hole essentially in his torso He was he had he had killed a lot of Native Americans by the way He wasn't you know, he wasn't exactly a politically correct president He was the guy who came into the White House with mud on his boots. He was a real soldier and a real fucking badass. But explain.

He had a couple recorded duels with firearms. As president, he was a war hero. Bulleted lives near his heart and caused chronic pain for the rest of his life. He also narrowly escaped assassination attempt in 1835, just like Trump. Yeah, anyway. What this is not,

because like I said, I read his biography. He narrowly, he had a bullet lodged, like really close to his heart, very similar to President Reagan. He had to let it like air out and pass out sometimes. When they autopsy him, they found, I'm not exactly, this is, you could do, they found like six more bullets in his body that he just didn't tell people about okay

And then the best story about Andrew Jackson there's so many good He was the first Trump the best story about Andrew Jackson is the floor I don't know if anybody knows the Florida situation So I believe Madison is president at the time and they're they're negotiating Florida the purchase of Florida with Spain. And this is post-war, Andrew Jackson, who is a war hero and it's general, still an active general, is down in Louisiana, Florida area. And he goes, I'll just kill everybody and take it. And Matt, you got to remember,

this is pre computers, pre internet, pre phone. So it takes like a, like a horse drawn or a train drawn man. And, and Madison's like no don't dude seriously he's like you know i'm just gonna i'm gonna take Florida he was a general and and Madison's like dude seriously i'm negotiating we're good and uh there was too much of a delay and he just took Florida he's like writes back to Madison he's like uh our Florida's ours I killed everybody and the Spanish went back to Spain they're're like, fuck this guy. I'm not going to fuck with him. He had like 12 soldiers. He's like, we're going to just kill everyone. So Madison still has to end up paying

for it because he's like, I don't want a global incident with Europe. You know, like, but that was, that was, he was just like, he got elected president. It was the first time that, that a president wasn't sort of a lawyer and a gentleman farmer. He's a bro. This was a fucking guy. He was a bro. Literally mud on his boots. I mean, he just came in and he just would put his foot up on the fucking table and drank

heavily and his friends, his fellow soldiers in the White House would be drinking and fucking yapping. Yeah, they'd be doing some shit. I don't want to make this like a, I'm not Dan Carlin. I don't want to make it a history podcast, but another story that was Blew my mind especially to as a modern reader there. He was he was particularly brutal to Native Americans But so there was like a fame it wasn't Sitting Buller, but it was a famous Native American presence I forgot who it was

but he got a couple of Native American representatives and they went to Washington DC and they're going to talk to the president because they can't tolerate this type of abuse anymore. So they get their greatest orator, their most respected representative, and President Jackson meets them at the steps of the White House and he says, please come on in. He comes in and the rest of the Native Americans stand and they're waiting. An hour or two goes by and the guy comes out crying, just hysterically crying. He comes in and the rest of the Native Americans stand and they're waiting. Hour or two goes by and the guy comes out crying, just hysterically crying. He's like, fuck, like this is bad. And they just went back. And then sure enough, it was cannon fire within a couple weeks, you know.

Yeah, the Native Americans were not treated well. And the one thing about this country is like, you can say whatever you want, but it was, it was a brutal, brutal. Oh, and, and, and, but. Some say the best one. There's no, there's no escaping brutality. There goes, man. What are you going to, Paul Tadgworth?

Building civilizations is full of brutality. Yeah. How brutal was it to the Irish? How brutal has it been to the Chinese? How brutal has it been to Italians? People act like Americans are the most brutal. That's true. No, no, they won the fucking. They were just better at violence.

But that's what they did back then. Everywhere in the world. Force doctrine. I've heard Andrew Wilson talk about this and it opened my eyes to it. He's like, it's not pretty. It's actually kind of gross at times, but let's be realistic. Force doctrine is real. Who, he who can swing the mighty stick oftentimes just takes control.

Of course. Of course. So if you're not a nation state, the whole thing with Israel is they're like, we have to be a nation state, we cannot be a homeland. If we're a homeland, no one in the United Nations has to come to our defense. If you're a homeland, you're Chechnya.

If you're a homeland, you're those countries, you're Kurdistan. Ask them how it's going. It didn't go very well, because it's like, they're on the border there, and they just get fucking run over. Shit is brutal. Everyone likes it.

I've been loved with, like, when certain parts of Europe have people that are either visiting or are now Americans, and they get critical, and I go like, how far back was it when you were Vikings? Oh dude. When you just sailed from town to town, slaughtering everyone.

Like everyone tries to point fingers as if. Just Americans. They can escape it. I was like, all of our relatives were all savages. Everyone. Yeah. Do you know who the first country in the history of the world was to eradicate

and actually work towards getting rid of slavery worldwide? Britain. The British Empire, who by the way, you think about the British Empire and how dominant and at times torturous they were to people, almost a century before anyone else even put idea to it, they not only tried to end slavery, lost like a couple thousand Brits fighting to end slavery. Sailors on the open seas. There were parts of the Barbary coast

and parts of Africa where like no slaves, fuck off. And they stake their lives for it. Everyone likes to be all high and mighty. Hard being a human. It was. Hard being a human. You have some current events, dude? Yeah. Is it warm in here as fuck? Yeah, we're sure.

Okay, so we talked about... It's Texas. I like the heat in the AC. We had them turn off... Not in the studio. Yeah, you're getting. So we talked to that. I like the, no, no, no. We had them turn off. Studio. Yeah. You're getting, you're getting a little moist. Yeah, but the studio shouldn't be this way. Good for your fucking that. Thanks.

No, no. So we had those, those used to be long pants, huh? Cut them off mid thigh. I did. There you go. Cut them off right at mid wall. No, I did not. These were purchased by me because these are, same with these.

Like they're a little fucked up. But I. So they came as shorts. You bought them as shorts. Yes, because I bought them off of eBay. I buy a lot of clothes off eBay because I'm a American-made only guy. Yeah.

And when you're getting Vans, Converse, or Dickies, to get American-made versions of them, you often have to get them from 1982. So yeah. What do you guys do for shorts around here? You you often have to get them from 1982. So yeah. What do you guys do for shorts around here? You don't want to look like a bum, but I need shorts. Oh, you don't wear athletic shorts. No, no, no, no, no.

You know what you do? That has to be some cool shorts. No, seriously, you see an iron claw? What? You seen the iron claw? Yeah. Those scenes where they're working on the farm and Zach Efron's jacked out of his mind, cut off jeans shorts with cowboy boots. It's gangster as fuck. It's gangster shit jeans with cowboy boots

Or or jeans would like work boots jeans with like some red wings also Also, it means you can fuck me hard. Yeah. Yeah if you want, but let's be real I think if Brendan all of a sudden decided to fuck our butts he could that's and we really couldn't stop Unfortunately, not a firearm the truth without a firearm. He's our butts. Unfortunately, that is a hundred percent the truth They're gonna broke by the invented guns. One of the things about rolling is it to prevent sodomy? One of the things is so true with some small guys like do we have figure this out? We were talking about the value of rolling or just being in a fight gym is that you're always reminded that there are men out there

that can take your shitter from you. They can just go, you know what, today, I'm not just, I'm not going to beat you up, I'm going to fuck you. And you would go, no dude, I go crazy, I get fucking crazy when people try to do that. And they'd go, I know you do. And you go go, no, dude, I go crazy. I get fucking crazy when people try to do that and they go, I know you do. And you go ahead and get crazy.

But by the way, show me you're crazy. Show me you're crazy. I just said, when I go mental, when I go mental, the shops, the shops of the world too, who are, who are technically advanced and then also athletic and big and strong, like it's not even really hard. You're not doing a fucking thing. Mike, the one of the, Eddie, of 10th Planet Black Belt, who's my size, there was this giant guy and I went,

look at the size of him and he's like, he goes, and you teach that guy something in eight months, there's not a thing I can do. Yeah. He was a high level black belt. It was like- Me and Ellis, it was like a lot of capable athletic guys that all got our ass kicked by Shane Carwin at the same time. Like don't get me wrong, it was a joke.

It was kind of a comedy thing. But there was like six men versus Shane Carwin. It wasn't even, he didn't even break his sweat. When was this? Shane knocked Jason out with one arm behind, taped behind his back. By the way, his left hand was a sprain. And he was like a shitty jab.

And Jason was like, oh. I told Jason, it's not what you want, man. No. You told him that. You were like, he's not fucking around. He's going to knock you out. No, Shane doesn't mess around. And Jason's strong.

Jason's a big, strong, athletic, very gifted guy. He is. And also, Jason head kicked, very gifted guy. He is. And I've also, Jason head kicked me once and almost knocked me out. You're here to shame Carwin? No, no, no, but I think his point is, is like, Jason's not my size. Jason's a really sturdy big guy.

And you're, Shane, like, if you have the, there's a video of it, because it was in Ellis Mania, it was a shitty, like, check hook. And Jason was like, oh. Shane's eating. I would have told him just keep park this here, bro. Park this here. It wouldn't matter.

His, his wrist. I mean, you trained with a guy, right? You, yeah, yeah. His wrists are like, like you shake his hand and you get the sense of else. He was your, he was your number one train partner. Just me and him for years, for years. And it's, it's like a different thing. Like he's big and athletic. Shane, you shake his hand. You're like, you're Yeah, it's just me and him for years, for years. And it's like a different thing. Like he's big and athletic.

Shane, you shake his hand, you're like, you're not. He's a different big. Well, Shane picked me up one time this first time I met you. And he squeezed me. And I was like, I tapped. He goes, that's 30%, dude. And I said to Nate Markhorne, I go, could he do that to you?

He goes, if I let him, he could do that to me too. I went, oh. Doesn't it bother you? I would imagine. You got a paycheck for it. Doesn't it bother you? I would imagine you, you got a paycheck for it. Doesn't it bother you? I, one in particular that comes out of my mind was this guy telling me to my face that Connor was a pussy for tapping to that torque choke that could be put

on him. I was like, I don't entertain it. I was like, dude, his face is exploding. Like, he's like, no, man, you can just bite. I was like, you have no idea. It was the guy who has no idea what he's doing. that's why I don't watch you should have put him in that no but I okay let's say I did yeah I'm bigger and and probably like in the way that what it doesn't matter that what Khabib is putting on your head like that is oh my god fucking uh what the fuck's his name? But we even, I won't say his name, went over to your friends house, we were watching a fight, and he was like,

oh, keep your hand up and do this. I'm like, I gotta get out of here. Yeah. I gotta get out of here. You're an actor. Yeah. I didn't know that the icy red guy, I thought that was a meme.

I didn't know that that was real life. And I was getting my oil changed the other day, not the other day, six months ago, I was getting my oil changed, other day. Not the other day, six months ago I was getting my oil changed and the guy's like, what do you got going on today? He's the nicest guy ever so I feel bad. But I was like, I'm going to Jiu Jitsu right after this, right down the street.

He's like, oh yeah man, I like that Jiu Jitsu and MMA stuff. He's like, I don't need it though, because man, when time comes I'll go crazy. And I was like, oh, you're serious. Well yeah. I don't need it. Ben Askin put me in a bull Choke, that thing he did to

Robbie Lawley, he was showing it to me. And I was like, he just like did a little and I was like, oh God. Yeah. When you get 80cc level or like a professional, guys who get paychecks for it and they have that grappling strength and they know what angles to hit it at, it's terrifying. You know who does know that though? A lot of pro athletes, a lot of pro athletes,

a lot of pro athletes who are football players and stuff like that, they'll be like, they'll be like, they can see boxers and wrestlers. They know they're like, yeah, that's a whole different thing. I don't know. If you know, you know, but I mean, okay. If you're a regular guy, regular guys don't understand how vulnerable they are.

Just regular guys. Like you, did you play high school sports and you lift weights and you, you're, you think you're pretty, you know, you know what, man, in a situation I've been, uh-huh. I can't tell you how Crohn Gracie at 140 pounds and could probably not bench presses weight, how much he throws me around like a bitch. Like, okay, like how extraordinarily much he fucks me up without even really breaking up. Like, like not, it's not,

that's crazy. He ain't even telling the story on the, because people think I'm, he's a dick. He didn't even mean it as any, but I remember one time when he was training for an MMA fight and the old Crona Academy in Culver city had like a separation, there was like a mat and there was an, uh, an octagon for training for his M and he was working at, I was just finishing class in a key and he was coming out and he, he was class in a gi, and he was coming out, and he was on his phone like this. He's like, you want to get some rounds? You want to get training? I was like, oh, of course. If you ask me, I'll train as long as you want. And he was continuing

to text people and got in guard like this. And then I couldn't break, and he was just texting people. And I was in his garden. He was just fucking texting. And I couldn't do anything. Wait, what? I'm serious. I'm being that he was like this and he had me in guard and he said and then he opened guard any and I couldn't escape like I really thanks for the work man yeah really yeah freak and then he and then he finished it through his phone and then submitted me and tapping that's disconcerting. But that's not a big guy.

He's a small guy. Yeah. He's so talented, stupid. Tell me, imagine Hicksons. Your dad is dead. Hickson. That's so weird. Like imagine like your dad's a Sam. Like, you know, it's such a weird thing.

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They didn't, oh my God, yeah. But think they started jitsu when they were in fucking diapers. Yeah, it's a language. It's such a deep language for them. So whatever you're doing, they've seen it a million times. And they started, a lot of kids now, especially, have started since they were very young, and they started, a lot of kids now, especially I've started since

they were very young and they're so good. But that's in that family in that part of that family and like Hickson and that expectations, they're not only doing jujitsu since young. It's there's like a, there's this code that they have to like, like grown talks about tradition. Hickson wake him in the middle of the night to go fucking dude up. Yeah. You can't tell no one.

I have to go. I have to fight. And You're like, what dad? Yeah. Like obviously I'm eight. It's my, that's your destiny. You're seeing the pride fights at crone in like the, the Hicks and Gracie. Yeah. So what's he like? He's in the corner. It's like a, like a tenure, you know, and you're like, dad, you got it. You just grew up around that world. What's weird though, is I remember when I got

started, like, Oh, there's gonna be so many NFL athletes ish to crossover and it's not, it hasn't come that wave of like this pop that these young kids are gonna be so good and this and that it hasn't come. I think fighting's different. I don't know. Yes. What do you mean? So you're saying they just had the athletes. You mean the crossover from NFL guys? No, no, no, not that. The, the, those guys are always going to be there. I'm talking about, they were like, well, UFC is getting so big, you're going to get the athletes. You mean the crossover from NFL guys? No, no, no, not that. Those guys are always going to be there. I'm talking about they're like, well, UFC is getting so big, you're going to get the athletes that would have went to NFL or MLB or NBA come over. Maybe in 30 years, maybe in 30, but that's the thing. Here's the deal. People have been saying that about soccer since I was six. Like it's only a matter of time before this. And I go, no. And here's, and I'm always, I've always been right.

And there's a great American soccer player. Don't get me wrong. There's world-class American soccer players. But the difference is if you're born in Italy, if you're born in outside of Paris, you grow up from a, you like, I like other sports. I want to be on Paris Saint Germain. I want to be on AC Milan.

If you're born in England, you're like, I'm going to be on Phil and the play your favorite team. That's your, you want to be on Manchester. They that you grow. If you're born in America, you may like soccer. You want to be fucking LeBron. You dream of being Steph Curry. You dream of being in the NFL. You dream of playing base. That's it. And that'll not change. I would also say that there is a difference Europeans that you watch a soccer game for, I was watching with my brother-in-law, an hour and a half and there were no scores. And it's like, it's a lot.

It's an elegant, beautiful sport. But there's, to me, when you're talking about competition, and I love baseball, I love it. But when you're talking about competition and sport, there's nothing that compares to American football. Because what is competition? Down from chess, all the way up to MMA, it is a sublimation of warfare.

It's a sublimation of warfare. And nothing represents where you have a line protecting the quarterback, the general, who's delivering air war, air attacks, ground attacks. There's an end zone. It is fucking beautiful. It's so true, man. Yeah, but I think too, the reason we haven't seen this boom, like everyone expected in MMA, is if you're like, you know, I have a crazy athletic big nine year old, I would never, never let him fight.

It's never, right? So I think, and even if there's shitty parents out there, like, I don't really care. You're not going to sign him up for fighting at a young age. You're just not. Yeah. And if he's really athletic, like the amount of money can make playing baseball or football to get to college, you know, it's being a stud in high school now, now they're giving scholarships to high school kids. So it's like, that's probably the path to go to that.

That's the funny thing. I was talking to the boxer today who was really good. This guy, coach tiger, so good. His dad owns the oldest boxing gym in Austin. He grew up, his mom was a world champion. And he was saying, well, I was saying boxing is just so difficult. It's so hard and it's also really hard to do.

Like you get hit. And he said, that's like wrestling. I go, it's not actually like wrestling. Wrestling's a nightmare. It's really, really hard, don't get me wrong. It takes some incredible discipline and stuff. Boxing, you get hit in the head. You get your jaw right.

You get all kinds of shit really fucks you up a little bit. The margin for error, you can't fuck up. When you fuck up, it really hurts. Well, and also, even just the overall, like the stakes of pain. But there's a darkness that comes with striking sports. And there's a reason why. And you look at what wrestlers in particular, okay,

the college system, the American kind of youth system with wrestling, is anything more, when we're talking pure effort, is anything more difficult than wrestling? I mean, it's just so fucking hard. But what do you see with American boxing, American boxing in particular, you do not see a lot of kids from the suburbs, wealthy people, who there's not a lot of together households,

since the beginning of time, where you go from Rocky Marciano all the way up to any American wrestler. It's always these kids who boxing was the thing that took them out of a guarantee. It's gotta get you out of hell. It gets you out of the worst. There's no world champions out of Calabasas. You're getting something that will save you, will use your suffering as an asset and that is boxing. Maybe someday that'll change. There's parts of the world where, you know, but- I don't think so. I don't think it ever changed.

Now, boxing works like that. Boxing's tough, but baseball's fucking tough. There's parts of the world, you know, but I don't think so. I don't think it ever changed. Now, boxing is tough, but baseball's fucking tough. Football's tough, man. It's all tough. It's skill wise and hard to get there. I'm saying boxing, just getting punched in the face. But as far as skill wise, I will go to Matt on this one. Baseball is the hardest one. Baseball is the hardest one. Well, hitting that ball. You will see some of the greatest athletes athletes and you could be a fat pile of

shit. If you're good at baseball, you can throw heat. It doesn't, there's no, you could be the most Jack lean athletic gifted your nervous system, the pink crossover and you don't have it. You don't have it. Something about baseball is so I've watched so many people who are NFL football players, you know, great. There's, there's all this video. The UFC is so great about their promotional stuff. You watch besides steep, who was actually quite a good baseball player from what I understand it.

I really get it. Almost professionally. And besides that, you, you get them in the box. NFL football players. I mean, talking like tough, great athletes, you get them in the box against a major league pitcher and they on Corker fastball. You're like, what, what are we doing here? This is crazy.

This is bananas that you can hit this. It's insane. Wow. Yeah, it's, I've always said it's almost as much a skill as it is a sport. Cause you're, it's one motion. You're throwing junk, you're throwing all different stuff. So it's very complicated, but it is one-

It's explosive. Yeah, it's just, it's much like golf where people it's very complicated. But it is one- It's explosive. Yeah, it's explosive. It's much like golf where people, they have a hard time seeing it, because baseball isn't physically very hard. It's just so hard. And the sport itself is so hard. I think this is the problem.

I think the problem is, is if you watch the Dodgers and you see whatever it is, Kike or someone at shortstop, or if it's Mookie Betts at third base, that ball's flying at 120 miles an hour. They make it look easy. People are like, that looks easy. But if you go to a high school game or college, they're not as skilled as those guys. You can see the effort it takes to turn the double players.

The pros are so good, you go, oh, it's just a routine. And it's not. It looks like a skill, but it's actually, yeah. Your reflexes have to be so fast. You gotta be so fast. Like just being a short start and catching those balls that come at you that fast. Boom, you just catch it.

Well, you can be tough. You can be the toughest dude in the world and a ball's coming at you at that velocity. You're like, I'm not gonna go, what the, get the fuck out. Most people would be like, all right, go by me. I'm not gonna. To just sit and then watch it in. Also, people who are really good at really difficult skills,

they make it look easy and that tricks us. Golf is a great example. Swimming is a great example. If you watch a Olympic or a high level college swimmer, you watch them do it and they're like, wow, you make that look so easy. That's how swimming annoys me though, but I know what you mean.

Swimming is annoying. I think fighting is like, there's never going to be that surplus of athletes. It takes a special person. Like John Jones, by all metrics, isn't a great athlete. Like GSP wasn't a great athlete. Nate Diaz ain't competing in any of the sports. So what do you think that is then?

Just the ability to deal with like a mindset? I don't know. It's a choice. I think it's a choice. And like, the Diaz brothers. It's an upbringing. The Diaz brothers are the perfect example for me. because I heard GSP talk about this one time. He said, a lot of men, they are, they enjoy violence.

They enjoy fighting. I do not, I get so nervous. I do not like the fight, but I chose it as my sport. And he's an athlete. He worked hard. He dieted. He had the great training camps in it. Some dudes are fighters.

They don't give a fuck. You know, like George, I don't think a fuck. You know, like, George, I don't think George St. Pierre's gonna be a 60 year old guy like getting in parking lot fights. No, no. I could see Vanderlei and the Diaz brothers in walkers. It's just what they do. Like, would you say, bitch, you talking fit?

Fuck you. You know, with a blunt out their mouth, they'll fight you. You know? I know. They love it. They like the idea of fighting. It's a thing that you can't teach. There's no school you can go to. So in relation to that, you're not gonna get

the surplus of kids doing it. It's just not. Oh, so it's hard. I heard Dorian Yates talk about bodybuilding too. It's bodybuilding, the same thing. A, bodybuilding is stupid. The idea of putting trunks on and having other grown adults.

It's very gay. It is. It's very gay. I enjoy it myself. It's also fucking relentlessly difficult. And you could say, oh, I live way to LA. No, the diet, the sleep. The lifestyle is fucking.

Do you want to go to the game? No, I don't. I'm going to go to sleep at 7.30. And after each seven hours. My eight meals. Ryan Shaw told me that four hours of his day, four or five hours of his day is spent chewing. When he's in compensation,

I said, why don't you just drink protein shakes? He goes, there's something about chewing your food. You absorb the protein better, which I just found out. And so you're chewing, you're chewing, you're chewing. You're eating every two hours. He goes, one of the hardest things is just the amount of eating you have to do. And they're literally sweating as they're eating.

And they're just like, I'm not, but they have, I mean, that is so fiercely difficult that just, oh. Wow. I gotta get, I gotta start eating more. That's what I take from this whole fucking show. And dude, and you've gotta get on the right gear. Gotta get on the right gear. Are you doing anything?

I take TRT, but I don't. You did or you do? I do. Oh, you do. But I take, and this is 100% true story. I was talking to my friend who will remain nameless and he gives a paycheck for being Jack. And I told him how much I'm taking.

And he said, that's literally like a bikini competitor. What are you taking? I take like 70 milligrams a week. 0.7 total? Of Siponate, yeah. That's very low. Very low. Yeah, I mean,iponate, yeah. That's very low. Very low. Yeah. I mean, and I took, I was taking 100 milligrams a week, which is a good baseline starting

TRT dose. Why'd you take it? Because I, well, I would get my blood work done pretty frequently. I actually started- Every guy's looking for an excuse. No, no, no, no, no. I was low. I was never looking for an excuse.

No, but the thing is most guys are. Like the average testosterone is down I forget what the number is from the 60s. It's mind-blowing. That's why people are so fucking soft and out of shape Yeah, and I don't think people talk about it's the plastics in the thing I think the reality is is that this is speculation, but I feel very strongly about this as someone who's very invested in health in 1955 1975 the in health in 1955, 1975, the overwhelming majority of American men were blue collar workers. It was rare.

Life was hard. You rarely meet a guy who was an attorney or an accountant and that was fine, but you did. But most guys swung hammers. Most guys worked on a rail. Most guys did or electrician. That was the majority of people and And you didn't have the luxury, it was very weird, something happened about 15 years ago

where in order to eat an excess of food, if you were to be overweight in America, you had to be ballin'. It's true. For the history of America. It's true, man. Because most people didn't have the luxury of like, I'm still hungry.

Yeah. But I have to stop. said like steak like eating steak at his house was like a luxury Like you didn't have steak, but also I think there was I think that most of us walk around there isn't an existential threat to most men Nowadays like you're not really gonna die Which so you don't have to have high testosterone, right? You're jumping your test high testosterone is a fucking liability, isn't it? Right? Like.

High testosterone? Yeah, like you have high testosterone, it's considered toxic, it's like a toxic juice. Well, if you listen to the betas on. No, but I'm saying, a lot of boys are raised now, have been raised. Not out here. Don't rough house.

Not out here. No, but I'm saying most of school, most of school in the United States has been, boys have been raised by women, and for the most part it's like, you can't rough house, stop moving around, stop being restless, sit, be quiet, be gentle. They were raising boys like girls.

There's been a lot of this. There's a book called The War on Boys, and fucking boys aren't like that. We need to get out there, be outside, sports, doing bad ass shit, fucking wrestling around, rough housing, negotiating. This says, the research suggests that testosterone levels in men have been declining over the past several decades.

As this decline appears to be faster than what would be expected from aging alone. You've just got a bunch of soft dudes with low testosterone. And it makes it, but look, like also, like, is it worth it? The trade-off, my life is, our lives are a lot safer and more comfortable than our grandparents. They just is that's not open for debate. Yeah, they had tougher lives and they were in World War Two. Yeah. And my Korea Vietnam, I was thinking about it, but at the same time, and I'm not in

any way saying that there's upside to this, but I'm not a guy who was a professional athlete in a dangerous way. I'm a lifelong civilian. I was never in military or law enforcement. Okay. But, so what I have to pull reference from was that my life has been a cakewalk. I'm an American and I grew up in a relatively affluent lifestyle. I didn't grow up struggling, you know, I wasn't a

Rockefeller brand, but I didn't struggle. I didn't know what struggle was. Yeah. So there's this six year period where I was a desperate drug addict. I'm spending most of my time around horrible men and women who are very dangerous, very dangerous people.

And I'm teetering on life and death situations pretty frequently. It was a terrible thing to do. I would never want to wish that upon anybody, but I think I was a little bit closer to human. It's good for you. Then I, you know, if I could figure out a way that wasn't unhealthy to kind of go back, because

there was an excitement that, that came in my life that I do think was good for me as a, as a suburbanite. In the long run. It's kind of soft kid that I never went to war and I never really, I've been in probably a half a dozen fights in my life and lost most of them. And I, I'm just not that guy, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I also think like, I don't want to wish

that upon anyone again. I, it's not good. I'm not saying there was a, but the excitement, the danger that was presented to me, I think was within the boundary of something that's healthy. And I figured out a different way to do that. It would probably be a better thing. Yep.

I straight fight a lot. What do you guys think? I think it's the boundary of something that's healthy. And if we figure out a different way to do that, it would probably be a better thing. Yep. I street fight a lot. What do you got, Jay? All right, let's take a little break here, all right? I want to talk to you guys about O'Reilly Auto Parts. First thing I looked for when I came to Texas, I said, I need my O'Reilly.

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He's been here like literally two days, three days. And he just seems super Texan. How are you doing over there, Casey? Well, I take to the air here like a fish in water. Man, you're- I don't know what it is. Your voice, your accent is actually thicker than it was on Monday.

What's going on? It's just something about it. It's this air. I can't pinpoint it. And guess what? I don't want to Really Texas right now, dude, it's crazy. Casey's a handsome kid. Let's let's fuck his butt Let's just do some current events All right, god

He's so understated and modest oh chin you spent yesterday avoiding my barbecue, but did you uh find avoiding? There's so much stuff that we had to do. No, I know we canceled. I cooked the food. Um, hey, we avoiding my barbecue, but did you find so much stuff to me? I know we canceled I cook the food. Hey, we're going today, right? No, it's oh my wife's over what my wife's over it Yeah, she was like fuck this. Oh, man. She's like this is too tough But you did you find a place to live? I saw three places So one of them did stick out So I'm gonna plot I might apply for it But I want to see one more when I come back next week.

And then if that's the one, then I'll pick. I'm going to pick it soon, though. Live at my place. Come live at my guest house. By the way, another shout out, dude. As soon as Mike found out that I was actually moving to Austin, he hit me up right away. He was like, dude, you need anything, any advice, whatever?

Just hit me up. So you're the best. You're my boy, Chin. Appreciate you. And you gave me eggs. I did bring you eggs. Live on the farm. Fresh from my chickens' vaginas. These are so freaking cool. So you're the best. You're my boy, chin. Appreciate you. And you gave me eggs. I did bring you eggs. Live on the phone. Fresh from my chickens.

These are so freaking cool. So cool. Yeah. All right. What do you got chin chin? Um, first one that remember that terrorist guy in boulder. Yeah. You're kicking him and his family. Egyptian. He's an Egyptian, uh, Egyptian lava here on a tourist visa that he, that was expired. Get them out of here.

So remember we saw he had like a burn mark on his face. This is video footage of how that happened. So this is when he was throwing one of those Molotov cocktails. See it. Oh, five children. You know, juice on him. That's him. Yeah. Now in ice custody in process. Oh, no. But I did deportation.

Mohammed's despicable actions will be prosecuted to the she's a lot. She's actually attracted What that she's locked me up girl extent his family knew about this horrific attack Chilling video shows what appears to be the moment the suspect threw a molotov cocktail into a peaceful group of Jewish demonstrators Jesus Christ this place is on with you, dude And later himself on fire allegedly yelling free Palestine at the crowd and injuring a dozen people before he was taken into custody his face is on with you dude. Get him out. ABC News has learned he appeared to record pro terror messages just hours before. Yeah, so that's how he got that burn. I think you'll have a hard time seeing details about this story on MSNBC. What are your what's your thought of his he's got five

kids one wants to be a doctor here in this country. What are your thoughts on what to do with his family? If they didn they didn't, if they didn't know that sucks, dude, his kids, I mean, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? But that's the risk he took. He put his whole family in jeopardy. Yeah, here's, here's, okay. I would say so people get attached to that, but like, like, look at it from a different angle. If he had five kids and he was a PDF file or he was a drug addict that committed his seventh felony, we'd find housing for those children. Like you know what I'm saying?

Like it's not open. People get so like, but you can't separate them. It's like, yeah, we can. And we do pretty often when guys are dangerous and gals are dangerous, you do that. Yeah. Cause there's a lot of things that get the kids out of here too. It's like, well, hold on,

hold on. Like that guy might be a fucking tyrant. But you got to set a standard. So because he went to such extreme measures, like he knew by doing this, and hopefully it detracts others from doing this. Hey, if you do this, not only are you out, but your entire family is fucking more. Israel started what Israel would do back, started in are you out, but your entire family is fucking. Israel started, what Israel would do back, it started in 2000, I think, when the second Intivada, when, when Palestinians blew themselves up, they would come and bulldoze the, the, the, that, that

set Palestinian suicide bombers, family's home. They'd come in and bulldoze the whole home. So they sent a message saying, if you do this, your family's going to pay and they're going to lose their house. Correct. Um, and it's pretty harsh, you know, but as it should be. Yeah. But the, the, it's just, you know, if the, but if the family's here illegally anyway, then they got to go back anyway. Can we send them to somewhere completely relevant, like random, no, just for, I like, let's say, like, what if they go to New Zealand? No, you never do that. You

have to, you always send them back to their country of origin I know but I'm saying like what if we open up that program? You can't be like a farm system have you'd have to have like they go to Toronto Toronto's Don't worry about it So much but they can get custody they're not gonna see their dad again their dad's going away But the aim is that a bad thing? It's not a bad thing

He's a fucking asshole who firebombed people and you can the my thing in this country is that you know what we have to realize I'm sorry Is that if you are in this country on a visa if you are a guest in this country? You're not allowed to say anti-western Well, let's put it this way if you say anti-western say anti-Western, well, let's put it this way. If you say anti-Western, anti-American things, and you're trying to, you're advocating for the destruction of this country from within, maybe you shouldn't be in this fucking country.

Like your visa is a privilege. You're not a citizen. Maybe you shouldn't, but to be fair, and you're a pretty well-traveled guy, you're a worldly dude. Isn't what makes us the, I say, Isn't what makes us the argue, I say, no, no, isn't what makes us the greatest country, the fact that you can. Yes. Yes.

I'll quote Eric Weinsbach. Because even other very civilized, very advanced countries, you can get in serious trouble for saying shit. I love America that you get. If you say, you know, fuck the president. I hate this fucking government. Fuck you guys. I agree with that.

But if you're American, that's fine. Here's the thing. The Secretary of State does reserve the right to revoke your visa if they consider you to be in any way a threat. A threat. Right? There's a difference.

And so it does fall into this really constitutional thing. You have the right to free speech, regardless of whether or not you're a citizen or not, I believe, in this country. And it's a murky area. However, there is privileged status with a visa and the powers that be that grant that visa can revoke that visa.

They can decide that you are. So if you're that guy, Khalil Mohammed or whatever, he was disruptive on a campus. He was inciting people to disrupt everyday life on campus. Sure, there's a difference. I mean, I think- I know, but it's a murky thing, right? It is complicated.

It's like, hold on, because we do have free speech laws. It's a tough one. But look, let's extrapolate what we even have within our personal freedoms. I think if you don't like someone, you have the freedom right in this country. Once you get into threats,

once you start to threaten someone's safety with your words, that's a different story. And I think the same thing goes for the, if you wanna talk about how shitty America is, I think you should feel free to do that. That's how awesome our country is. Go ahead, talk about it. Once you start to threaten with your words,

the safety of Americans and American people. Yeah. It's very complicated because you're allowed to criticize our country. Eric Weinstein said the best thing I've ever heard about this. He says, the magic of the United States is you have a right to burn the flag. You have no interest in burning. Yeah. Because it's a great country. So comparatively, I think people need to take a look. Does the United States have problems? Sure. Are we above criticism?

Of course not. Should we be criticized? Of course. Should you be allowed to criticize your president, the administration, without paying a price for it? Of course. But I do think that if you're a guest in this country, I do think that's different. You know, Douglas Murray said, if you're screaming Alu Akbar on my streets, and

you're organizing, and you are in the London streets screaming Alu Akbar, that's a war cry. It's a war cry. And I don't want you on my I don't want you in my country. I sympathize with with I sympathize with Charles Murray on that. And because I'm sorry, Douglas Murray, because in in most of those cases, you've got people calling for Sharia law in England, they're calling for Islamic law. When you talk about though, here's my big problem, because I got to be honest, Douglas, who the fuck am I? I've never

served in military. I've never been in government. I've never really traveled the small amount that I've traveled to Muslim majority countries It's been like this much, but I will say this you're talking about tens of maybe hundreds of millions of Muslims around the globe and The majority of them live in a way that you would not even necessarily know even if they're devout because the true practice of being being Muslim isn't something that would call for most people to take recognition of it.

What is that noise? It's ACG kicks on for a little bit. Turn off. But is that fucking us? Probably. Right. But as long as we acknowledge it, it's just AC for a little bit. How's that?

We're going to work out the noise. We're gonna work it out. It's our only mic saying sign important I just think that you know when you're talking about what what these men that Douglas Murray is taking note of is such a small Fraction and because their behavior and their rhetoric is so outside the lines of what most Muslims live and do It's perfectly okay in my eyes to be like, yeah, these guys are fucking, a little sketch. We should take notice, maybe get a little bit more surveillance on the guys who are screaming War Christ outside my front window, you know?

Yeah, for me, I'd be like, hey, are you calling for, you wanna turn this into a violent thing? We can do that here. We can do it. Don't fuck with the Brits and the Irish, you get them turn this into a violent thing? We can do that here. We can do it. Don't fuck with the Brits and the Irish. You get them going, they will meet you halfway. They'll fucking, the indigenous Brits and the Irish come alive when it comes to war. Thousands of years of being bad.

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Boy guys, okay. What we've been dragging ass, and it's because chin booked some ridiculous transportation system That's not gonna get our stuff here anytime soon and I realize it's because we don't have MagicMind. Well, dude, I Literally called them and I was like I'm out of Max. My wife is addicted I can't that MagicMind Max is what I live for. I don't even need coffee. MagicMind you know this We only use Max here. Don't send any other stuff. only it's a great new trope cheaper than a cup of coffee It's got great nootropic benefits invokes a sense of flow gives you mental clarity Decreases stress helps you feel present get you in a flow state takes away distractions

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It didn't part in show up to court. So that's why they're doing this. She's a piece of shit. She's a worthless piece of shit. Yeah, she's horrible. Ruined his career shit. Well, and not a listen and it's hard I knew a couple of dudes who knew him. He makes, he's a hard guy to like stuff from what I understand.

I don't know guys that played with him. He didn't rape anybody. And that's been proven. But apparently what I heard, I talked to someone, uh, that plays in the, in the league and they're like, the thing about Trevor, it's not his skill. He's terrible in the clubhouse. Like the rape stuff, obviously it's all false and he's appealed that and that comes out.

There's no evidence of that. But apparently in the clubhouse, he's a bit of a nightmare. It's a cumulative effort. It's a cooperative effort. And how many bands have said the same? I mean, that guy was a gift. He was an amazing guitar He sings like no other but he's a fucking impossible to work with. I mean it just the agent his story is old this time

You know, yeah It'd be nice to see him get on a team though Yeah, I mean I would love to see him pitch again. I although he is he is Dangerously close to being coming Danny Powers now that he's down in Mexico. Have you seen video of him? He's like fuck Yeah, he's talking fuck you bitch to the benches. It's hysterical He threw he throw he get a strike out and immediately I'm not exaggerate bright. He'll run screaming full-screen. Fuck you Fuck off my field pussy. You're like, oh, this is entertainment. That's real entertainment. Yeah Bring that up. Is that really true? Trevor Bauer Mexico crazy. I mean, I yeah, Oh, this is entertainment. That's real entertainment. Yeah.

Bring that up. Is that really true? Trevor Bauer, Mexico, crazy. I mean, I, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. Oh boy.

It's awesome. I don't think it's helping him. Kenny power. Sorry. Kenny power. It's like helping them get back in the league though. Like no one in the league watching. No, no way.

Listen, no one in the, he knows that though. And he's like, fuck it. They're never gonna have me back anyway. And no one in the league wants that he knows that though. And he's like, fuck it. They're never going to have me back anyway. And no one in the league wants that, but I do. And I'm, it's selfish. It's like my favorite. Some of my favorite entertainers are people. No one wants to have work anymore, but I go, yeah, but I love them. It's 44 minutes.

It's 44 minutes of him. That's hilarious. Do you ever see when he pitched against those high school kids? No. The one kid goes yard on him. Some freak, some prospect. Because he was saying he can strike out anybody. And he had some young prospect and the kid just goes fucking yard on him. I see him make videos with the jacked Asian dude out in Soka.

I forgot his name. I love that guy. He got Korean fellow, I believe. But he's jacked and he's like a tank. And he makes these YouTube videos like he throw gas, lift heavy or whatever. He hit tanks. And he'll make videos with that dude. And I'm like, this guy's bananas.

This guy's genuinely lost his rocker. Trevor's entertaining. I like him. But he has like, yeah, I mean, I'm sure Brian's probably worked with people. There's, there's, Faye Dunaway, from what I understand, like, I mean, Oscar winner, amazing, beautiful. My friend did her TV show.

Just, she just- She called herself the GIF. Yeah. Yeah, what about the cut from Snow White? Oh, yeah, Jeff Dice said he had to work with her and is a disaster She's the worst disaster just a narcissist. She wouldn't talk to anybody under her name on a little call. Yeah I've heard so many stories about certain actors and actresses especially that it's like, oh Yeah, I mean I mean Ellen's a classic example of it caught up with her So many stories about certain actors and actresses, especially that it's like, oof. Yeah. I mean, I mean, Ellen's a classic example of like, it caught up with her. Like, like she's kind of just disappeared.

She moved to England when Trump won. Well, she moved to England because, because everybody was like, Hey, you built a whole house on a false premise. Be kind and you're a nightmare. Well, that's what I've always used Ellen as an example. It's like, it's very peculiar. If you really take the time to look at it, Chelsea Handler can kill puppies. I love Chelsea. You know why? She's great. Since she was like 19 and moved to Hollywood, she's like, I don't like you. I don't want to be your friend. Fuck you.

Chelsea's awesome. I love her. David Letterman got caught banging an intern as a married man and he went on the air that night. He's like, so that happened. Yeah. I hope we can get past this. Yeah. Tonight's guest is and it was no, but because he never sold himself as being like super nice guy. Yeah. Ellen, I remember they always say the first thing's the two things you hear when you get to LA's two things that happen. You're going to get a parking ticket and you hear a horrible story about Ellen. You're like, why is that right? Oh yeah. I have, I had stories.

I had a personal experience with her. It wasn't that extensive, but she was, she was trying to get my 12th. Sorry, go ahead. No, it's great. Uh, she sure. And Portia were quite nice to me. I mean, but again, it was a minute and a half of my

life where we kind of bumped elbows, but she was, they were very nice to me. By the way, I got, she, when she was younger, she was a hell of a comic. I don't care. Yeah for sure She was she was she had talent. She was about yeah talented. She's made all the money in the world. I think she's fine There's those I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if you're fine, you know, I think that when you I Think it's very hard to go from being somebody that America likes to being sort of like exposed that way. Yeah. I don't, I, well, does she, is she that type of person?

I will tell you right now. I mean, financially she's. Every, all these guys who were like, I don't give a fuck what people think about me. I was like, I do. Like I, I want people to like me. I would be very bothered if I knew a lot of people didn't like me.

I would be very bothered by them. Well, it depends how famous you get. You can't, cause you can't control it. Sure. You care what people that know you think about you. I mean, I think you guys get hit hard. Stand-ups, I think, have the hardest to deal with. Because people who literally don't even know you

will start to say things about you as a person when they just aren't fans of your work. And that's ridiculous. What I meant, though, I guess, was some of these people, especially a lot of these reality stars and rappers I've noticed, they genuinely don't seem to, and there's something very admirable about that. I go, I don't know if I'm a puss or I'm a mama's boy.

I'm very concerned. I would like it if lots of people liked me. I would be very concerned if- I think most people in show business feel that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think most people want to be liked,

but then they can't really control it. Yeah. What are you going to do? I guess probably one of the trappings of being really famous. Yes. Yeah, or misunderstood. What else you got, Chad?

Casey helped me find this video, so this is the Trevor Brown one. I had a message for their dugout. He's Kenny Powers. I'm bitching about not getting fastballed. F*** you. F*** you. F*** you. I smoke ball you.

I smoke ball you. F*** you. F*** you. No, he's legit Kenny Powers. F*** you. Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it.

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. He's legit Kenny Powers. Fuck you. Oh, I love it.

He's fucking awesome. I wonder if the rest of the team is like, Jesus Christ, dude, take it easy. I loved when he was a Dodger. As a Dodger fan, I loved it. Was he like that when he was a Dodger? Absolutely. He was so good. Not to that degree, but he was a wild boy.

He's a Cy Young caliber pitcher at that time, but also like I have to assume, I know as a fan, I'm pumped when he's like, yeah. If he's on your team. And definitely I still, I have to assume his teammate. Now there are probably some teammates who are a little bit more diplomatic and understand like public perception. We're like, dude, it's here. No, I love that. Get the out of here. Yeah. But apparently in the clubhouse, the issues, a lot of the, especially the big dogs have like on the Dodgers, especially if they were to sign him as he has a camera crew. Yeah. So the, he got offered contracts, but he wanted a camera crew

with them at all times. So you have guys like Freddie Freeman, like, no, dude, in our dugout, family men. Yeah. Like, come on, man. Like, get the fuck out of it. Nobody wants attention. Yeah. Okay. So, um, shout out of here. Nobody wants that shit. You got enough attention. Yeah. Okay, so shout out to Sanaz. She sent me some current events as well. This is an Indian tourist getting attacked by a tiger. A Thai tourist. In Thailand.

Sorry, sorry. No, Indian tourist in Thailand. Oh. Yo. Yeah. Why does it always happen out there? I wouldn't do this. Oh.

It'll refresh itself. He was fine though. He ended up being fine. But also, don't scream like that. You're making it worse. Dude, fuck you, Brian. If you had that tiger attack, you would scream like a bitch. And so would I.

You're right. It would fucking hurt. Yeah, but I tend to be really calm. I'd just be like this. I'd be like, I'd grab it like this and just pull it at me. If it was wearing a gi, I would. But is that guy walking with a tiger? He was trying to take a picture with you.

Yeah, so in Thailand, they'll let you walk a tiger. That's what you get. Yeah, and then you kneel down for a picture because you're a retard. That's how it goes. So one of the things they say with tigers is if you're working with them, don't fall in front of them.

If you fall in front of them, their instinct will take over. No, no, don't get close to them. Why? And some tigers you can get in the cage with, and some tigers you can never get in the cage with. Look, I'm not Bear Grylls. I grew up in a suburban, urban environment. What is it with these people?

I don't know if social media, like these people who are like petting bulls, I'm like, what are you doing? I've been on set. I've been on plenty of sets. How many Asian people have been hit by buffaloes trying to do the peace selfie? I've been on plenty of sets in Hollywood. It's so true though.

It's always like, Chin's lost so many cousins. In Hollywood, you'll be there and all of a sudden they're shooting some commercial. And there'll be a lion there. And I remember they took the lion out of the cage and all the actors I was with were down there this close to the lion. And I was up on, I was upstairs like at the door so I could run in the door because that lion doesn't give a fuck about his trainer.

If that lion says, you know, I don't like it today and I'm going to eat that guy. You're dead. Well, remember when they had chimps, they brought a bunch of chimps for this commercial. I'll never forget it. The guy was saying, stay back, stay back, stay over there, all the way over there, get over there, over there to people like that. And the chimps were 200 yards away and they were all

being led. They were all walking like this, you know, into the thing. And they were like this. I think they were they were all being led they were all walking like this, you know into the thing and they were like this I think that I think they were they were all Chained up together and he was like back there back over that way. They didn't take any well Remember the baboon and firing kid 3d. He was like, you know, he's fine. He's fine. Just don't look him in the eyes Oh fucking that was great. Yeah, and then he was then if the staff want pictures with them and with women He just grabbed this one woman's titty, just like boom. And he sees Boner come out.

And then she's like, okay. And she tries leaving him, strong arms. And he's like, all right, I'll take it from here. And you're like, oh, this could go south. With huge bad moon teeth. Anything, you know how we were talking about how silly it is, the guys that, I don't need to drink because I see red.

I will admit, I'm that guy with animals. But, because I I was like all the way up to it once you start getting to lion tiger of course I'm like what do we do a bear I'm not beating a bear but a coyote unless it's ten of them like I could take a coyote if I get his back it's fucked because I've choked out my goats and sheep pretty enough I think I get to anything simian, you're done. There's no, you don't stand. You probably feel like a baboon ultimately. You get all ripped up.

I saw chimpanzee video, now granted, chimps is this whole, I saw a video of a chimp from like the 20s, all these dudes were in like suits and smoking pipes, it was like the 20s, in black and white. And he was pulling a train by a rope one handed. Yeah, you're not fucking with me. And these guys are like, oh, look at this. Well, they strapped, the Bronx Jew,

they strapped a female chimp into a chair and they had her pull for mangoes. And it was some insane, she was just like pulling some crazy amount, more than any man could. She was just like. Did you ever watch a chimp crazy? No. Oh, that's a good one.

What I did watch was- He's giving him a fast food and basically he's like, he's my best friend. But I know the ending. And I kept going, all right, if he's your best friend, go in the cage. And then she did. She did. I know the ending. That's why I'm saying I don't want to see that.

I know what happens. And it's like those 9-11 movies that came out in like 2014 with the Nick Cage and the flight 240. I was like, I don't want to see that. I'm good. I know the ending. I did see the documentary. I think Werner Herzog did it about Tippi Hedren,

about Melanie Griffith's parents. Do you know what I'm talking about? Crazy shit. I think it's called Roar. You mean it's called Roar. And you mean when he was living with, oh, he was living with 50 tigers and leopards. Oh, shop, shop.

Maybe more. I thought you said parrots. Shop, no, but Melanie Griffith, you know Melanie Griffith? When she was like, she was like nine. People were getting bit. Listen to me. So fucked up. Not in Zimbabwe, in Laurel Canyon.

No way. Dude, it's insanity. It was more than, it was more than. But why? No, it was more than, it was more than 50. Why? Oh, come on. It was more than 50. It was more than 50. Not a good puncher.

I'm taking that. It was more than, it was more than, now those teeth is going to do it. Do you how he's like a head kick him? At that height with that head? Yeah. You'll see it here at some point. But I don't want to be so cute.

He's so nice. Look at this. Oh, that was kind of gangster. That's crazy. That was pretty sick. He's so cute. That was the Edson Barbosa to Terry Edam right there. Yeah.

He's actually. Hey, but also what a waste of time. Yeah, so what are we doing here? That's like Elvis's karate. You know, where you're like, what are we doing, guys? Come on. Hey, Chim, just do Chim shit. You don't need to learn to fight. Yeah, let's hang out's karate, you know, we're like, what are we doing guys? Come on. Hey, Jim, just do chimp shit You don't need to learn to fight. Yeah, let's hang out. Yeah, let's party chill, dude

But why in the world can they have all those animals just cuz because there was a time up until pretty recently Probably like the 80s where if you were good at successful in Hollywood, you could be fucking insane. Yeah, I love it utterly You could be fucking insane. Yeah, I love it. Utterly insane. I'm saying they had over 130 cats. It was, bring up Roar and you should see it. Roar documentary. So they're shooting every day with these huge lions

and tigers and leopards, and people are getting fucked up. Like the crew is getting bit and torn up and it was unbelievable. Good images, too. What a moron. These cats were somehow, they were like, meh, this is real, that's real. That's all real.

Yeah, Melanie Griffiths was like a kid. Yeah, and they kept trying to shoot it. But you see, wait, wait, go there to the left. See all those lions? That's real. That's real right there. They're probably taking shits and stuff. In a room.

That's like above Sunset Boulevard. Again, Brandon, we're not talking Zaire. We're not talking Ghana. Yeah. That's actually real. And that's the craziest thing about that. Jesus Christ. I feel so bad for those animals.

It's just such a bad situation. Oh, God. So dumb. That's just bored white people. You know what? Well, they think that the lions are safe. There was a certain level of crazy in Hollywood. Because if you hear the stories of like, um, Judy Garland's life as a, as a child,

like what men did to her, it's like, okay, that's, but then there was a certain level of awesome crazy in Hollywood that, that cell phones cameras have ruined. I was, it's just, I'm going to say 1986. I'm at the Laker game and at the forum, but before the Staples Center and this forum in Inglewood, there was an underground, like a concession stand and bathroom and it was kind of off the beaten path, but it was like where the locker room kind of guys would enter from the locker room, the Laker girls would come in.

So you go down there, you go to the bathroom and it was kind of cool. It was kind of like, felt like you weren't supposed to be there. I'm going P my cousin Chris is with me. He's probably six years old on me. So you go down there, you go to the bathroom, and it was kind of cool. It felt like you weren't supposed to be there. I'm going pee. My cousin Chris is with me. He's probably six years older than me. So he was probably a teenager at the time. I was like seven. We're at the urinals going pee.

And I zip up my pants and I turn around and Sean Penn and Jack Nicholson come out of the same stall. Whoa. It's called cocaine. Why were, and I literally. but no, no, no, they were, they were doing, it was 1986 at the forum. And then they were, they had to look and they came, but you understand stars of that caliber.

Nowadays they're like, everyone's filming. We have to go to our own private. They were brazen. Okay. It ruined celebrity. I come, so I turned and before I could say words, my cousin again, who's like 16, he goes, and we get out of the bathroom and I was like, why are these like they were, they were doing cocaine and they were doing drugs.

I was like, really? No way. Have you seen that? What Sean Penn looks like now? He's Jack Wrinkled Man. Right? Isn't he shredded? But all like he was on Rogan.

His face is a ball sack. Sean Penn was on Rogan. Yeah. Was he when that's not real. That is real. That's 100% real. I hate it. I hate because he's a lot of smoking and it's a lot does not seem likeable. He seems very hard to like. But at the same time, he's on there, he's never been on screen and I have where I've seen him and I'm not gone. God, he's fucking great. He's so good.

He's fucking great. I love him as an actor, but he's a hard drinking, hard drug and hard smoking guy. Remember when he flew to Ukraine and was in the war gear? Remember when he went to hang out with El Chapo? And he got caught for that reason. One of the reasons. I'll tell you what, I met him once

and he was so fucking nice and cool though. I met him once and he was, uh, he had a cane to get around. It's when he was Charlie Sterling. I was at a party and I saw, I had my career. Who's the old guy? I don't know. He's just old. We had a cane was like barely walking.

Isn't it weird when you hear when a lot of people talk about how someone is this or that and you have an experience with them and it's not the case. Oh, is it? Weird. I had a Kevin Spacey experience. And I... He grabbed you? This is before the controversy.

My wife was in a play and he came to see someone else in the play. Right, kid. And I... A very handsome young man. And he and I were sitting next to each other and the group of people that we were backstage after that, and we had just started talking.

And this is before I A, the contrary, and B, I didn't even know he was gay or anything. And he was so nice to me. And friend of friends, we all go out to drinks afterwards. And he was just like, kind of like, honestly, like a very cool guy. A close friend of one of his personal trainers, in fact, told me, because we knew each other through meathead

bullshit, he's like, he wanted to blast your asshole open. I was like, OK, but either way, he was like a genuinely enjoyable person to be around. He's like, because he wanted to blast your asshole. He wanted to suck the skin off your dick, Mike. He knew I was there to see my wife. I don't know. Maybe there's a play.

He doesn't give a fuck. It's Kevin Spacey from Seven, dude. He off your dick, Mike. He knew I was there to see my wife. I don't know. Maybe there's he doesn't give a fuck. It's a spacey from seven, dude. He's pretty sick, too. He's pretty sick on screen. Like he's pretty crazy. I want him back on fucking back on camera. He's paid his dues. Get him out there.

Yeah, bro. I don't like how all controversial people get thrown into the same category as like Cosby. And I'm like, really? Like Cosby still touring. No, no. Really? Yeah. Oh yeah.

I can't believe he's still alive. You can get tickets right now. He tours nonstop. I'm all for yourself. I'd go see Bill Cosby just for the almost the curiosity. No, the boss community think he got it. You can't see him. You can't see. I don't think so. I'd literally go to that just for the curiosity. He can't see him. He can't see.

I don't think so. I'd literally go to that just for the curiosity of like the people that show up. What his jokes are now. Not right now, but 2023 apparently. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, I got promos on Sirius for Bill Cosby's show. Oh my God. I was listening to the rap channel or whatever.

You want to come see the show? I'm going to make you some cappuccino and come on your face. It's going to be great. It's good. And he's in court. He's in court going to for the, and he's like, hey. Yeah.

What? He was actually a bad guy. Yeah, he's one of the ones. Race. Insanity, right? Yeah, he's one of the ones. What a race. Insanity, right? Yeah, but by the time they caught him, he has one eye. We've been over this. It looks like a burnt turtle.

One eye. And just, it's like, he got away with it, basically. How old is he now? Yeah, he did. He's 80. Has all the riches. 85? 87.

So he lived 60 years of ultimate fame and wealth, and he's going to live three or four years as a bad guy? He's like, I got it. I'm good. Yeah. Well, he almost went to jail. He was in jail, right, for a while? Weinstein's going to die in jail.

Weinstein's going to die in jail. He was a total scum. Yeah, Bill Cosby's free, man. Roaming around. Wow. He's free, man. Roaming around. Wow.

Do you think, well, I'm going to, this is nice. No, go ahead. Do you think Bill Cosby in comparison to other celebrity men who have done probably not as bad as even accused of as bad a stuff as they have paid a bigger price? Do you think this is a similar to OJ Simpson's situation where Rodney King happened a couple years prior? And I was living in LA as a young man.

That's why OJ got it. And OJ got it because the LA riots, when they said that the cops that were accused of harming Rodney King, when they said not guilty, the city exploded, proverbially and literally. And it was so scary, it was so overwhelming. They were like not gonna, do you think like- They're probably like, is this one guy really worth blowing up the city for?

Well, you could say that about Derek Chauvin. There was no way that they were gonna find Derek Chauvin not guilty of homicide when the whole country had made up its mind. But in fact, if you actually look at the actual evidence, he didn't kill George Floyd. It was an OD. It was an OD.

Yeah, and so it was an OD. And so now there's this real movement to get him out because it's like he's rotting in jail because even his police practices, that this putting his knee on someone's neck. They currently still do that. They still do that because it's a police technique. They all do.

And so what he was doing was practicing, but that wasn't relevant. It was like during the Black Lives Matters march. When you, if you were to say, you guys aren't wearing masks and spreading COVID in your marches, you would never have won that. You would have gotten crushed for that. Yeah.

So there's a lot of the mainstream media has and continues to lose its credibility and should because they just can't be objective. And the woke mind virus got, they were all infected by the insanity of it. And the Washington Post saying the mysterious drop in fentanyl, not even being able to give Trump credit, even though you might hate him, there's plenty to criticize, but you got to give credit where it's due, but you gotta give credit where it's credit's due, otherwise you're lying.

Otherwise you're just being deceptive again, and we all see through it. And they did it with Rogan, with CNN, and the horse-warming pill, he took a thousand things, he talked about it. If you listen to him, there was the only other thing, he took ivermectin, but he took monoclonal antibodies, he took a Z-Pak, he took everything.

It was like a huge shout out to Western medicine. That's what he said. And it was the ivermectin that got him in trouble. Well, and also, like, the one that bothered me is like, and can you believe this is a guy who takes horse dewormer? And I was like, well, fair, it is a horse dewormer. But that's like saying, can you believe they play a sport where they hit a racket against a dog chew toy? I We can wrap it up with the seat popping uh, but one One thing that's not a set that i'm curious because you guys all work out into fitness

Um, what do you think the world record is just a ballpark of the most push-ups someone can do in a in a in a day 24 hours not with no unbroken not non-stop I'm gonna say a thousand thousand. Well, that's it's way more than that. I'll say 10,000. What? 10,000. No way. No way. 10,000. I'm going to say your shoulders couldn't even I'm going to say 2000. Brendan's right. Oh my God. So apparently hasn't been been broken since 1980. 10,507. What? Without stopping. Holy shit!

How long did that take? North. Those last eight tiles here. That happened was found in 1980. That had to be like a day. Found in 1980. That had to be a day over 24 hours. Oh yeah, it this 24 hours. So

7 and 20 No, it says without stopping no not stopping. Yeah, the guy just did the pull-up record, which is tougher than push-ups And he did 24 hours like this pull up pull up chin up chin up You know pull up like this. Oh my god, I just set the record. That's fucking nuts. That's so Japanese. Yeah it is. You know what I'm saying where they're like. Is there a video of it though? Minoru Yoshida, it's in 1980 so I,

well I can try to find it. Japan, I love Japan and Japanese culture and I have for general. Is there a current? But Japanese are very, I had a bone to pick with you. Because they are so sophisticated, and they're so above us in the West, that they don't even show genitals in their porn. They pixelate their porn.

I'm on one of the Tube sites, and I go to a Japanese thing, and it's literally like you could see pixelated bush. But the next video is a girl putting seven eels in her asshole and then eating diarrhea. And'm like, how do we what the fuck? What do we do here? You can't watch porn you can't buddy after you can't do you have to be can do porn tub You can't you have to have a it's like there's like two or three sites You can't do really the major ones. Yeah, like pornhub and all that stuff

I go to ones you can't I go to a couple different or you have to have a VPN VPN you watch whatever the hell Yeah, VPN you can do like I go to a couple of different, or you have to have a VPN. VPN you can watch whatever the hell you want. VPN you can do like two girls, one cup on HD. Oh, it's VPN. I gotta get it. Oh, wow. Virtual private network. Yeah.

Yeah. That's pretty much it guys. Yeah. All right. Do you have anything to plug Mike? Just Brian's ass. All right. There you go.

Oh yeah. If you're interested, I still, I think I'm still doing a podcast. I don't know. It's hard. I don't kid. But my Patreon is there. I have a lot of things in the oven.

Hopefully, I'll talk about it off the air with you guys. One is like, it's the thing. It'd be the fighter and the kid of my life, and then it would change my whole thing. So let's all cross my fingers. I got Off Limits. Off Limits, I got Carrot Top that just dropped yesterday. So check it out.

Nice, nice. He's fun. Yeah, he was funny as shit. Such a cool guy. I got a carrot top that just dropped yesterday. So nice. Nice. He's fun. He was funny shit. Such a cool guy I love him carrot top crushed on kill Tony too. So he was in town. I was I got him on the podcast It was fucking great fan of crushing the poon too, and he's very open about it. Yeah, he's a fan Oh, yeah, he's like, you know, I'll get six girls at a time and yeah It's can very rich and I live in Vegas and that's what I do. And I'm like, yes, support that. He's got a chin. That's it. All right, dudes. This is The Firing Kid. We're out. Guys, what is up? My name is Tom Schwartz. Some of you might know me from Vanderpump Rules. We had 11 wonderful, beautiful, strange seasons together. You've seen me at some of my worst and now I want

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