The Fighter & The Kid - Mike Catherwood | TFATK Ep. 1131

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Mike Catherwood is back with the boys and they discuss his new diet book, baseball, Jose Canseco putting Mike in check, Bryan's new special dropping for free on YouTube, Bryan's recent appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, advice for new podcasters, their religious beliefs, AI's influence on music and media, Dan Henderson stories, Mike rolling with Fabricio Werdum, dating advice, current events and much more! Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkFabletics - Go to https://fabletics.com/tftk and sign up as a VIP and get eighty percent off everything.O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERTrue Classic - True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/fighter ! #trueclassicpodMagic Mind - https://magicmind.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Milwaukee. I'm not worried about Milwaukee. Well, yeah, we can talk about it, but that's the thing. It's like, who's the best at playing baseball? Probably three or four other teams besides the Dodgers. Who's the best at winning championships right now?

Watch it. You're a big baseball fan? Not only a big baseball fan, die-hard Dodger fan. Have you met, Mike? My dad's still season ticket holder to this day. and was a season ticket holder season ticket holder since before I was born. I used to go to 50 games a year.

Wow. Yeah. I was sitting in the same seats my dad still sits in. I was sitting right there when Kurt Gibson hit the home run in 1980. Holy shit. I was eight years old, nine years old. I was like, this is. That's pretty amazing. You're a kid and you see that crowd go crazy.

Like it's impossible. Are we recording? Another thing people forget. And it's, oh, it was 30 years ago, of course. Jose Canseco The A's were so much better than the Dodgers in 1980 Like the McGuire Eckersley-Conseco A's were so much better And Jose Canseco started the game

At first inning hitting a home run that hasn't landed yet And the place was side Dodger Stadium was like oh fuck Oral Hirschizer just won the Saigon he pitched Conceco hit a line drive off the fucking cameras in center field And we were all like this is So because I'm a little bit gay I have noticed and watched Jose Canseco play as a non-sports fan.

You're watching back in the day stuff? Yeah. Is there, in his prime? Yeah. Was there, and I've seen him in person. Yeah. And he was in cowboy boots. Was there a more beautiful man?

And this is a real question. Have you ever seen his daughter? No, you got Barry Zito. They've got certain guys who are in baseball beautiful men. Yes, there you see. Right? Zito's a stud. Jesus. yeah i know he's all right good looking guy definitely better than berries i'm i'm more of a chuxedophane

but i'm more wow that's that's that's that's her yeah yeah well he's he's the thing about that guy is i don't know if he's six foot everything yeah but he looks like when you're next to him he looks like he's a good seven feet tall i know he's probably closer to six five he's not 10 though because he has that twitch he's not 10 he does this he talks to you legally he's always had it okay okay well yeah so she's he's he's fucking judge uh like have you seen him late linens

he's still hitting fucking bombs is he yeah he goes out there he wanted to challenge uh erin judge to a home run content that don't do that don't do that don't do that there are a couple things I like about Jose is he is he with his shoes off a legit six six I'm gonna say six four I was gonna say I hope so I'm gonna say six four but a little above six so I see I've seen him in

You know, I take these things in the person. But you said he had cowboy boots on. Yeah. How tall are you? I'm six foot three. Seriously. But I slouch. We're not on the air.

I'm five, ten and one half. So I'm five, nine and a half, five ten. You're like, and I think I'm shrinking as I get older, especially too many squats. Me too. But in person when you meet a guy like Jose Canseco, it's like the first time you meet Brendan, you're just like, oh, like he appears seven feet. They present very tall. And, and I will save this for the air. Jose Cansego punk to me.

We're on it. He punked you. Jose Canseco punked me. Like not open for debate. He went, oh, is that how you're going to do it? I'll offer this up and I went, I'm sorry, sir. Wow. Yeah.

I was on red carpet. This is 2005-ish, 2006-ish. And I had just gotten hired by the Kevin and Bean show in Los Angeles. And I have no experience and I have no real resume in broadcasting. I was just in this surreal place where I just wanted. wanted to do anything to impress these guys. So they would send me as it was very common. They would send me to red carpets, especially ones that were a collection of not necessarily the biggest celebrities. If they were, if it was the Grammys. So it was the Grammys of the MTV Music

Awards. They would send someone who had a lot of experience and a pedigree in broadcasting. They would send me to the young hot Hollywood, you know, gathering at like at some club, you know, at White Lotus. And I'm at one of these. I think, I believe, was the young hot Hollywood party and it's like the Paris Hilton's the Nicole Richies the jackass guys were there which was cool and stuff and um and Jose Konseko comes at the time he had just finished up doing some reality show I believe and he comes down the red carpet and I'm I'm seeing him I'm like oh dude I can't wait because all these uh D bags that are next to me are like Hollywood want to be entertainment journalists and I'm like I'm going to talk to Jose

Gonseco about Jose Genseco, she. Yeah. But I'm also in the back of my head, like, I have to get audio that makes Kevin and Bean like me. Okay. So I'm swinging for the fences. Oh, boy. And he comes up and he had just finished writing his book. And that's one of the best books. And I was the first book I read from front to bat. Is that right? It's great. Which, by the way, I want to, that's the other thing I respect about him. He was the first guy to really come out and say, hey, I'm doing, we're all doing doing shit. I don't, I actually, I deeply. respect when someone says I'm using performance enhancing drugs and I have been yeah I don't like the

fact that you have to rope in other players like what are we doing here you know what I'm saying yeah that's shit it's a bunch um and so he comes up and he comes and he's a huge guy and he's not just came out of the womb big he's jazz he's an adonis yeah and I'm standing up looking at and I put the microphone to his face and I go so mr. Konseko um how does it feel to build your legacy around being a snitch oh no you did oh yes I did and he goes and he's like mm-hmm it looks at me when he says he grabs the lapels of my denim jacket and yanks me like like a baby he pulls me up like this he's like what'd you say this makes me like nothing nothing sir nothing nothing like i i didn't hesitate i didn't go like what is he gonna do

him i was like uh i'm sorry i know i appreciate this and i appreciate him and i believe that's an appropriate yeah i like i like him even more because too many people and you're you're not this guy right but you were you were just trying to fucking do something you were trying to be fun and I was shit posting before there was shit posting. That's it. I absolutely was. You were trolling before those. I was trying to get attention. And you did it in person.

To a lion. To a lion. Yeah. And the lion said, hold on. Hey, jackal boy. Yeah. Listen up. There's a pecking order.

There's a pecking order. And I would have been the same fucking way. Yeah. Yeah. You don't do that to the alpha alpha because he's going to break you. And I'd love to tell the story like, I was like, hey, you don't want to, you don't want to cross this line. I may look smart. Like, he's.

grabbed me and the way he grabbed me and pulled me over there was a metal divider and he lifted me pulled me towards him he's like what did you say dude i go i said nothing sir i'm sorry i'm sorry you ever see when you ever see when i was talking shit to bert reynolds and he just slapped him in the face slapped the shit out of him it was mark it was mark summers you remember mark he just he says something he didn't like he goes whack no i believe it was oh no no i'm sorry mark summers bert reynolds first off bert reynolds should be everyone's goat because Burt Reynolds, met him, was in an acting class with him. He got a little slap happy last night.

He was in the CBS producer at a movie premiere in Chelsea. We're the only ones with the video. This is Michael Pomerant here now with the blow my blow, Michael. Maurice Reynolds attending the premiere of his new film, really a remake of his old film, The Longest Yard. Either ingest or in anger, depending on who you believe, Reynolds slapped the CBS employee who was asking the star about that movie, and today CBS News says it is looking into the matter.

judge for yourself. Watch us. guy is a nice guy to suffer and want to come now and he has to be done the guy too. We'll meet later. I know. No, but I'm pretty sure a guy at the division of CBPS.

Boom. Not too bad. Yeah, that's not too bad. Different time in a place. He had his face tightened. I didn't, and Will Smith slapped the guy, too. In my acting class. Well, Will Smith's not slapped Chris Rock. No, no, no, but I'm pretty sure he slapped a guy at the

on the red carpet. But was it like that? That was a real slap. That was like, hey, shut your mouth. But that was more like, what the fuck you doing yeah like will smith slap the piss of this guy yeah that's an older guy who said hey wake up you know kind of like that you know um he uh let's see see see oh because he tried kissing him he gave a little backhand slap fucking douchebag trying to hug yeah oh man what the hell is your problem man hey hey sir kiss me in my mouth there's a there's a thing appropriate it's a i kind of agree i mean i there's a thing though that gets

lost when people and i think that the internet has made it as such in that i got these weird idealized delusions of grandeur of me being john wick beat the shit out of me when i was like 17 years old yes and i think when the majority of people live on the internet that doesn't happen and they still have these weird ideas of what and like I remember there was a Jamie Jamie Kennedy experiment do you guys remember okay so it was like like punkton and Jamie Kennedy did it and it was on I believe it was on WB and there's this one episode and I and I I'm so fascinated by this media because it was a gang member like an evident Los Angeles gang member real gang member yeah a giant really intimidating

looking black dude and the the the skit was the the prank was that they were he got a new job delivering papers or delivering door to door stuff maybe it was and like this is jamie yeah Jamie Jamie and Jamie's in a in a in a costume and he's like oh welcome you go first day of job so what do we do is we drive around here in this neighborhood and we deliver these things and the prank was that the neighborhood kids like throw stuff and make fun of them throughout there and this guy was like a Crip and at some point like halfway through the bit he's like oh wait is this you're just going to allow this to happen and Jamie Kennedy's playing the bit he's like oh this is it's They're just the kids.

They're doing their thing. And like, after two or three more times, this guy stopped. He's like, stop the car. And he's looking at the, and he was ready to fucking serve these little boys. Like he was ready to, he's like, you can't just disrespect me. And Jamie Kennedy in the, and they actually, what I loved was they actually continued with, put this on TV. That's cool. Jamie Kennedy's like, stop, stop, stop.

And he pulls out like his mic. He's like to the producer. He's like, stop the bit, stop the bit. And guys come from all out. And they have kids. And they talk to this guy. this gentleman, they're like, listen, this was all a bit. We're really sorry.

Maybe we didn't. And then Jamie Kennedy brought the guy in studio, and he's like, we're really sorry. And this guy didn't smile one time. He didn't like go, oh, it's all a joke. He was like the whole time. He's like, yeah, man, you can't be doing this. No, you can't. Not on the street.

There's a thing. Like, people don't, and I don't know if you can learn it. You have to, I mean, there's a fuck around and find out that's not a joke. It's not like an internet meme. And I don't, don't you find that happens to you when you do any kind of sport, but especially if you do a little boxing, a little jiu-jitsu, like you can do just a little bit of it. Just go to a gym and just what happens is you're a regular guy like me and you get in there with a guy who teaches boxing, but he boxed, or a guy who's a black belt and he's just a little

bigger, maybe a little sloppy, a sloppy 220. And all of a sudden you go, motherfucker, I can't do anything here. And I think it's an important lesson to do, anytime you try hard at anything, and try to get good at something, at least it'll give you, like, perspective. Yeah, and just be a little careful and respectful. If you see a giant with fucking cauliflower ears, maybe he's got a couple things to him.

And also, it's not the same. Everything's different when you get a paycheck for something. Like people, like, really, I mean, everything. I can't tell you how many stories I have, and I'm not even going to get into, like, macho meathead stuff. I can tell you how many stories I have of, like, being at NAM, which is, like, the music, kind of record industry show, like Comic-Con for music. And seeing, like, John Five, who

probably most famously was Marilyn Manson's, Johnny Five, was Marilyn Manson's touring guitar player. And, like, I can play. I mean, Chin and I can sit here and wax poetic about playing guitar. I love guitar. I can play. Watching him, he had this, there was this guy at a booth who had, like, Hello Kitty and, like, Caro, Carol Caropi, like Japanese toy guitars and stuff. And he picked one, John Fy picked one up. And it was absolutely. of tune and he just started finger tapping on it and like twisting like as he's playing twisting and tuning it and I was like oh does it for a living this is a different like it's really like you're around a different and if you like you said I mean I'm sure you've been there where you're

like you're seeing someone who's Brian's a good athlete he's a talented guy and he works hard at combat sports and you get next to someone who fought professionally like hitting the pads you're like oh what the fuck what they do it for a living do it every day what are we doing here but it's different brine's up for fun and whatever's issues right loves to do it a job yeah like when you do it for a job it's like oh buddy i i've had it happen to me in that in that regard it's like i've i've created funny stuff i was live on the air for 20 years and in like a really large markets and various large markets and everything when it comes to performing by myself in front of a crowd trying to tell

jokes it's like oh okay there's some level of capability there and then you go to a really good comedy club and see people who have been on tour for a year and you're like speaking of which my special dropped yesterday everybody false gods it's a different thing by the way I was there for the filming of said special but I brought my lovely wife and we it is so so good how long ago did you film that be January long time ago it is so good and I've seen Brian live a dozen times over 15 years and I genuinely sincerely believe this is the best watch mine instead

I sincerely believe this is the best work he's ever done because there's there's Brian's silliness where he's a samurai and he's the best fighter in the world and he trains with a sword but then there's also moments where you're it's really thought provoking very meaningful and I encourage everyone funniest living comedian born before the Korean War yes yes how do they get it Brian what's anyone wants to watch it how do they get it YouTube your YouTube channel yeah yeah yeah be let's take a little break here man because one thing

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It's not why you're there. It's not why you're there. You just do the podcast and I'll mention it later. Yeah. We're not going to want to watch you. Like people are like, why did you mention you a special? I'm like, I don't know how to. I assume people that aren't in our space.

Yeah. Right? So I'm not wrong to not have started it that way. What are you supposed to do? Yeah. Yeah. No, well, and also it's different. if you were doing another really large, huge scale,

if you're doing some, I can't think of off the top of my head, a big podcast like that. You're doing, you're doing, not even that, yeah, because you're friends.

I was going to say, but you and Rogan have been friends for 30 years. Yeah. I think for you to start talking business would be not only probably bad taste, but it'd be weird. It'd be off putting. That's what happens.

I'll get people to come to me and they're really serious offers and they'll say things like, and I get it, but they'll say, look, you have access to certain celebrities. if you bring this offer to them and they say yes we'll give you a finder's fee and i always say

there's never i can never i could never go up to my friend like rogan and say hey do you want to do this now now if that were the case i would have to also say i'm asking you this if you say yes i'll get money yeah i could never do that without telling him that but of course i wouldn't do that you know i wouldn't do that sometimes when it's a crazy offer like recently I'll say to him, hey, here's a text, here's what I got. Do you want to do this? I'm just asking you because I happen to know the person and, you know, I'll be a conduit, but that's it. It's hard, and I can only imagine it's probably 10 times worse for someone of the stature of Joe Rogan, but I certainly deal with it with Dr. Drew where people will, well, they'll hit me up and present

me these and they'll be like, this could be great for him. And I get put into a weird position because sometimes it is actually a great product or a great service, but at the same time I'm like, do I want to compromise my relationship with him? That's not why you're friends. Rogan's strength is his ability to say no to almost everything, and I mean everything. And it could be amazing.

I know he gets certain offers where it's like, holy shit. And his strength is, I don't want to do that because that's going to bring a whole bunch of energy in this direction that I'm going to have to attenuate for. But also he doesn't need

to do it. Like you're not, like, I know you're trying to be good for it. You're not helping him out. He doesn't need to do it. Well, that's the thing I was about to say is like, I respect it so greatly because he could. There's plenty of people in the public space who just take any gig because they're just so greedy or whatever. And I respect that about Joe. He is. He's very

discerning. But at the same time, it's also easy to be discerning when you're science fiction rich. I know, but you know what? He was doing that before he was. Yeah, that's true. With my own eyes. He's always been like that. He was doing that. I'll never forget. He was probably 33. Can you look at when when black hawk down came out the movie 2000 with piven two three yeah um let me just see i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you exactly what happened because it was crazy

and he called me up and he goes he just said damn oh you call it money too yeah so in 2000 probably 2000 maybe 2001 so that's 25 years ago all right so he was 38 30 30 30 30 30 he was like in his early 30s and he just said i'm not going to act anymore and wait did they ask him me in black hawk down he auditioned for black hawk down but i remember then there was another audition and he looked at the guy and he looked at the casting director and he said i don't want to do that and they were like what we just gave you an adjustment he goes yeah if you're going to give me the part i'll do it on the set but i don't want to do that and they called his agent and they were like he's got a bad attitude. And then Rogan goes, I don't think I'm going to act anymore. I don't want to do this

shit. But he didn't have a podcast. He had stand-up, but he wasn't that rich. He had Fear Factor. He had Fear Factor. He had Fear Factor. No, no. By 2002, he had fear Factor. He was Scrooge McDougain. But when I say, when you say Scroo McDucre, and he said it, and I actually, he's said it in person, he was probably making a lot, but it was two mill. So after that, after taxes, is probably a mill. Yeah. What I'm trying to say is that it was never the money. He always behaved. I remember him when he was 28, and he had this house, and he would spend money because

he believed in himself. Right. But he was always the insane about the integrity of only doing what he wanted. I respected, I respected so greatly, because I'll be very honest, I think because I got into being in the entertainment industry being a performer kind of by accident. It wasn't something like I hear almost all of you guys and your crew and you're like

at a very young age I wanted to be a comic and I was willing to do what it took to get there. I was not, I mean I was already working in radio before I kind of made the decisions like this I really enjoyed it. I could be something here. And I was an aimless dude. So like I

don't know, especially now when the industry is so different and certainly like my professional prospects and my ability to kind of make money in the industry, I don't know if I'd have that ability. I mean, I think like right now someone called me up to do like an ad campaign that in 2010 when I was making, I had way less going for me. I would have been like, fuck off. I probably right now would be like, oh, okay, I'll do it, you know? Yeah. I mean, Brian were talking to yesterday. I was talking to the staff at Waysdowell. I don't know what kids do now to separate

themselves. Like I don't, it's, you know, when we got started, we're niche, but we're the first, like, dynamic duo, and there wasn't a ton of podcasts. Now it's like, you have a comedian. You know, first professional athlete to have a pod and the first comedian athlete duo. But so we are anomaly. It's funny you say, I'd hate to interrupt you, but I remember having the luxury of getting behind the curtain how crazy professional, certain professional media companies were with how they handled you and what they thought they could do with you and get out of, you like we'll just take 70% right and you get you get to work for us and you're like I I was there I was like wait what they say I remember that we're like nah we'll bet on our

stuff yeah they didn't know well they did at the time they didn't know podcasting and then they were just giving us the student everything and then I was like oh we need to do YouTube and then they saw how much like revenue and all that stuff and they were in our contract was up and they're like okay we're going to take 70% and me me and Brian are sitting there and I go for what and they're like well could because it's like you know because you're in our building you're in our building I get to put that letter head right in the bottom of your like you're like you get to say you're with fox sports I'm like yeah nobody cares I can go rent a studio across the street that's right you said nobody cares I remember

and that was like what are you talking about and then you went bad on them he went bad on oh because the guy goes the guy because I was like right we're fucking out of here well no he goes all right man I know you like get on your show and talk about this stuff he's like do not talk about on the show. Okay. And then literally, I was like, Brian, we got to do a podcast

and I just went nuts. I love it. And then we came in the next day. We had security. They didn't even let's get our old shit. They went less in the building. They wouldn't let us in the building. And then this giant,

this giant football player who played pro football, huge guy was a little bit, he was, something happened with that. And then you were like, you were fighting still and you were like, we can tassel. Yeah, I was down.

Yeah. I remember that too. The whole thing is, but the point is like I don't, like back then it was like, such a unknown and you know there wasn't a million podcast yeah now it's like when when kids are like if they're trying to get started now I don't know what you do like the day and age of like me and Brian get on here just talk shit and talk about our lives and we have a built-in audience

because we've been to it for so fucking long but say two like 25 year olds or even two 30 year olds are like man we want to start a podcast I'll tell you we're just going to get on here and talk shit I'm like good luck yeah like those days are over you got to get to on kill Tony or gutfeld those are the two that sell tickets almost like carson back in the day they're like two shows in town and then everything else is well no you but you're talking from a comedian standpoint podcasting going what kill Tony gutfeld that there's no that's not going to do it if i had literally there's there's no johnny carson anymore if i had young men in my life that i that meant a lot to me you know it's 20s college age and they that's what they wanted to do my best advice to them

I'd be like, regardless what you want to do right now, get a trade. Yes. And by the way, if you want to have a podcast about sheet metal, about welding, awesome. Learned because right now, everyone in their mother is trying to make money by being famous. Yes. If you learn how to do something and you get really good at it, do something that really pulls weight. Like if shit hit the fan, you could actually help you. That's the best thing you do.

And by the way, there's always, one of the greatest things about, about being genuinely talented in the entertainment industry is that there's no time limit. Regis was doing what I consider what I want to do with the rest of my life. Regis did it till the day, literally till the day he couldn't do it anymore. It's not like being an athlete. It's not like being other jobs. Like you can do it forever. And also with AI, like if you have a trade, like AI is not going to replace plumbers,

a fabricator. And also more importantly than because I have no business telling people how to be rich, because I'm not rich, nor have I ever, like, really been wildly successful from an objective standpoint. But what I will say is, like, I do spend a lot of time looking at things and thinking about things. And I'm very wrapped up in my feelings. Specifically as a guy, and I hate to put a gender slant on it, going to bed at night, knowing that you're really good at something that means something. Yeah. Makes more difference in the world than any amount of, of course, like, who doesn't want to be rich and comfortable? But I'm saying, like, being able to, to, to

It's literally, live your day knowing, like, I'm, you know what, people, they're my, my toilet breaks, and they call me and I fix it. And I do it, I do a really good job. That's, you know, or. That's literally the only thing that's kept me sane. Yeah. Because, like, I had two sets at the mothership last night, and my new shit is like. And you were on one yesterday.

I was on, brother. I was on one. And I had to get off the phone. Notice how I hurried up. I was going to call you later. I had to get off the phone. Yeah, Brian was, I came, but I don't even, like, talked into you like this. Have you ever heard me like that?

No, yeah, well, I was driving because I was doing some. because my feelings are hurt so bad like my feet like i put out this special and nobody it doesn't matter right like in a way it doesn't matter specials aren't special anymore they're not special nobody watches it's not gonna make that's what you need to understand like it doesn't matter like the and i'm i'm towards the end of it like that that that that that medium of like special used to be special well now they've just lost their significance and i'm not saying their special is not important it's important but what i'm saying to me it is but it's not to me it is but it's not to me you and like some of the older heads it's it's important but in this day and age like to ask someone to

sit down and watch an hour of stand up is in it's just not the way the game works i don't blame them but it's it's and i'm not saying it's right it fucking sucks nothing's like i don't know what to do but it hurts my feelings so bad and it makes me but it's not a brian callan problem it's not is it that's what i was trying to tell you yesterday it's not a brian callan problem yeah it everyone's dealing with it right i felt so i felt so terrible for the past like two days like terrible and but like I had a set last night at the mothership like I said my new shit is fucking it's hidden like the old shit and it reminded me that I said I have that skill that I'm when I'm on yeah you have a special skill set I'm proud of it I'm really good I'm as good

it's good you went up there I think I'm as good as anybody yeah it's good I tell you that all time and Ari Maddie hit me with a tag with this one thing I did and I was like and we were and we started laughing in the green room because Ari was like dude he watched it and he was like I fucking love that this new thing i'm doing he goes try this tag and i was like motherfucker and then he gave me the tag and then this morning i wrote a whole bunch of stuff so no matter what even though i feel terrible i have that yeah but why do you feel terrible because you you want i can't sell tickets sometimes i i feel like i you want a kevin heart response you know what i'm saying whatever no i mean feel like no matter what i do i can't i guess what i feel like i just want to be able to sell

enough tickets so i can continue to make a living yeah and that hurts hurts my feelings. Let me, let me talk about it. And I've, and I've gone through it. Um, both, not to, if you listen to Jim Norton's podcast, because, um, he had, um, who do you have on? I forget who he had on, uh, our boy. Oh, what's his fucking name? White boy, uh, wrote the Chappelle show. Brock Lesnar. Uh, Neil Brennan. Neil Brennan. He had Neil Brennan on. And Neil was like, how do you feel like when you go on the road, certain markets and, you know, and Jim Norton, you know, he's been doing it forever. And he goes, yeah. Yeah, I used to do theaters because there was a time where I did theaters.

And then there's a time now where they'll have to close on the, they'll have to close the second row. And he goes, and then the managers at the club, and we've all been there. We've all been there. The manager's kind of go, man, this weekend, you know, there's whatever, the gymnastics tournament's in town. Austin City Limits.

Yeah, and Jim goes, I'm going to stop you. It's not that. Trust me, if people want to come see me, they're going to see me. And I appreciate you trying to make me feel good. I know exactly what's going on. It's okay. So I bail them out. Listen,

I know what you're trying to do. It's me. It has nothing to what's going on with your city. I take responsibility to you. Yes. He goes, I take responsibility. And he goes,

he goes, once I accepted that, I'm good, man. Like I, like I, it's all good, dude. Yeah. There's a thing you need.

He said to me, he said, Brian, it's called the butterfly principle. Sit still. And the butterfly is not going to land on you. If you keep chasing. chasing it. And you just got to sit still. And if the butterfly lands, it lands. If it doesn't,

it doesn't. But I think you're right. Letting go of this, letting go of this fucking crazy thing that I'm chasing. I don't even know what it is. I, you know, maybe it's because I have financial responsibilities. Maybe it's because of that. That's a big one. Yeah. And my feelings are hurt. My feelings are hurt for, for what happened with the podcast. Yours is, I mean, we have this open discussion. And I'm mad for you. I'm mad for you. I'm a mad. added everything same but like yours isn't a case of you got really famous and then you just stopped putting in the work and died off because you can only burn for so long i don't give a fuck clue your athletes uh even rogue whoever it is kevin hart knows kevin hart's not that around that

much anymore he's not kevin heart you can only burn for so long so bright you burn for a long fucking time i did you can you can only maintain that gear for so long and then you got to come down, dude. You got to come down. The difference between your come down wasn't your choice. Your come down was because some trying to be cool here, not say it, but be your come down was a result of this false narrative that this horrible woman put out on you and you didn't have control of it. That's why we get mad. Right. It's not like you're like, I'm just going to back off the road. I want to be with the kids and do my thing. You didn't have the choice. Yeah. So your light got dimmed from things that weren't in your control. And that's why we're upset. I get mad.

That's the difference between you and all the other comics. All right. He makes a very funny point. You know what's crazy about that challenge is that you, this is so crazy. You have to forgive. But let's take a break here. Because dude, your boy is swapping parts on my Jeep 392 and I'm doing it with the help of our friends at O'Reilly auto parts, dude. What if you need a new steering wheel? Do they have that? They got you. They don't have one for my Jeep. but they got about everything else, man. And they are in the business of keeping your car on the freaking road. Are they friendly, though?

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I'll use Rogan's code on this because I'm the same as you. All good. They didn't mean anything. Roman goes, cool. You can forgive, but do not forget. You don't forget. Big difference. But you have to.

forgive you have to let them go with love because otherwise you'll hold on resentment and hatred and it only hurt you and also also yeah and i also look at that anything like that then they win and i and i also they look at that that that whatever happened to me i always look at it at this i think all of us hit chaos now it could be cancer it could be a stray bullet god forbid it could be something to my kids there are so many things that are way worse do what you will with me i know who i am you stay close to the truth you're gonna eat a dick you're going to pay a price but I think that perspective is also really important but all of these things are a learning experience the only way out is through and the only way to understand and learn them is that way you know well the reason I get kind of upset in anything regarding both of you

gentlemen for two different reasons the reason I want Brian to not have to deal with the feeling of malaise the feeling of disappointment with with what he does is because like So many people, especially in the modern era in the last 10, 15 years, 10 to 15 years with YouTube, with social media and stuff, there's people who, like, they have this idea and then something becomes viral, and next thing you know, they have a, they make a living. I watch this guy, do the road. I watch it. And then he gets an MTV show, and it's like a little thing here. And I was like, oh, that guy's funny. And then I'd see him opening up for someone else that I went to see it at the Orange County improv or something like it.

And I was like, God, it's just consistent. then the hangover comes out and i'm like fucking he's funny man he's playing different characters and different hangover movies but it's the same going to the same and then then he tries this podcast i dig i go on your podcast the one that's like man school kind of thing and it's like yeah well i tried it didn't work out i'm gonna and then next again next you know i'm gonna do a show with an mma fighter and it's just like no one no one no one no one made you quit like you had what you had you loved what you do and you continue going and it's like that those are the people who deserve to be celebrated and um you know my my only advice is like keep that in mind when sure you

would love to cash the same checks that you once cash sure you probably because you and i are coming from a different generation you probably compare yourself as a successful comedian to eddie murphy doing raw to to i'm surrounded by my friends who fly private right but but either way but my the idea of a touring comedian and then someone is like okay you know signfield in his peak and Eddie Murphy in 1986, it's like, that's, you know, there was a time in a place where Kinnison selling out arena, dice clay selling out, you know, Cowboy Stadium or something, you know, and that is like, you can't be what we measure success by now. It's like, look, there was a time and a place. If you hit 20 home runs in a season, you're the man. You were, is that right?

You were the greatest, you know, you were the best power hitter in the league. That was like a marker. Now, people, you're, you're in the middle of a lineup. Now everybody's throwing a hundred miles an hour. Yeah. And it's like you just got to change the way you look at it because like at the end of the day, can you sit here and confidently tell yourself like I'm a damn good comedian and no one's ever helped me down? Because there's a lot.

I can truly say that too. And you should say that too. And you know, part of it's also like we are dealing in a world right now where where this business and information and entertainment is like a tidal wave. It's a flash flood. Like there's so much taking our. eye off this mark, right? Which is, of course, nobody's going to listen to something for, I do ads, right?

I do, I write funny ads and commercials. Dude, when you can hold somebody's, I've looked at the metrics, when you can hold someone's attention, right, in an ad for four seconds, four seconds, that is considered a win. That is considered a win. That is considered a very long time. It's not good. I mean, what are we dealing with?

Not good. Not good. And then I don't know if you've seen this, but they're taking AI, somebody, whoever's doing it, is taking M&M songs and all these different songs and turning them into blues songs. And this is not a real person singing. And the voices are so good. And the music is so good that it's actually astonishing. And you start to go, what's going on here? Because I'm actually, I'm actually loving this music. Right. Rogan put it on. I got hip to it because Rogan put on many. I think it's overrated, but, you know. Yeah, but he put on, but like, I love the lies you tell. I think by Eminem, I think it's called, I love the way you lie to me or some shit. It's so good.

Yeah. And he put it on and he goes, yeah, this is AI. I don't give a fuck. It's good. And I was like, I get it. Look at it this way. What's going on? What is happening?

Well, okay. There's a way to enjoy both in and keep things in perspective. I was on my way over here listening to. to Slayer but Slayer songs, but done as P-Funk. And it's fucking awesome. I mean, it's fucking awesome. Like, Parliament Funkadelic has never had music this amazing and Slayers never sounded cooler. The reality is, is like, yes, it sounds awesome.

I would love to listen to it. No one wrote that. Right. Jeff Hanniman had to go and write those riffs and bring him to Carrie King and write the lyrics. And then, you know, Parliament Funkadelic and Bootsie had to give bass lines. and then George Clinton had to orchestrate. That's where the human connection to something changes it. And we will have AI grow.

I was going to ask you. I was going to say, we do because we grew up that way. Our young kids, if this is the new normal, are young kids really going to care? This woman is like married to Luigi Mangione's AI. So she's in a marriage. She's mentally ill. Yeah.

The bitch is crazy. But this is a whole thing. Well, for that crazy. relationships with AI. They'll care. Go touch grits. Let me tell you. Go touch tits.

I get really, go touch grass. Go touch tits. I get really defensive over this because I look at younger generations with much less cynicism than I think most guys my age are older.

Because I say like you got to understand. Like if I was talking to these kids at Jiu Jitsu that day and they're 21 years old, they go to UT. And they were talking about how they don't go parties and stuff like that. They don't, they just sit around and, like, they game and they hang up with their buddies and they sit in different apartments and dorms and stuff. And I was like, you don't go, like, parties looking for chicks and everything?

It's like, I can meet chicks on my phone. I just scroll and maybe, you know, hit up dating apps and everything. And then I was like, so ready to do that. And I really took a moment. I thought if 20-year-old Mike had the ability to get pussy through my phone and not leave. I went to bars and clubs all day. You know why? I fucking had to. There was not

going to be a reasonably attractive girl walking through my door. But you also developed the skill of talk and communicate. Absolutely. It's so many different people and your boys and you're doing the whole, you're hanging. It's such a better time than you swipe on your phone. You guys are fucking it all. You're fucking the whole game of it.

It's the best time. You're missing out. It was the best time. Because even if you struck out the hot chick, at least you're with your boys and you're getting roasted. You're having drinks. You and I met when I was, well, I was, best yeah i mean you know the best and you guys missing out dude don't ever tell him about the time you went home with that guy and no you know it was totally supposed to be a secret right right yeah so much of our bonding was just the you were single and yeah and just the the fucking hilarity it was so fun and you're not going to get that swiping up you're not going to get it

stories he'd come back and be with some lovely lovely classy young lady let's use let's use something that's a little less dense than say meeting the opposite or dating or social movies you're talking about movies yeah sure attention span is so low because kids are used to doom scrolling and they're looking everything's kind of like a dd flashy and everything there's going to come a moment where they're going to read a book they're going to see a movie and it's going to hit them out of it's just going to there's going to be that moment hopefully i i can't tell you how many times i've had that experience where i wasn't even prepared for it and something just overwhelmed me i was watching madman one time and i i had from my left

brain. I had a very deep appreciation for the show. I was like so well shot. The acting's amazing and everything. But there's a, there's a scene where Don Draper decides he's going to quit drinking. Okay. He's, he's compromised too much in his life. And it's like, you know, 1965. So there wasn't like any programs or anything. He's just like, I'm going to white knuckle it. So he wakes up in the morning. He goes swimming instead of sleeping in and he goes to the office and he's, and a couple of the other, um, coworkers of his pour themselves a cocktail and he's listening to the glasses clink with the ice and he and he and the scene has john ham he he's kind of sitting there like this and he's starting to move his hands a little bit and you could see the

nervousness the anxiety in his face and i'm watching this in my my house in my apartment in venice and i just vomited like no lead-up of visceral i just vomited all over my table because i had such a deep reaction to that and and I do I want yes exactly do I want everyone to have to be no but there's going to come you're going to watch my daughter and I were watching Jaws six months ago my daughter's 11 so at the time she was 10 years old and there was this moment where they're in the the boats kind of broken and the three survivors are sitting there at the end and it's just silent no soundtrack or anything in the ocean still you could hear the ocean and they know that Jaws is in there somewhere. But it goes on for like 90 seconds. You know, you don't see movies. And my daughter

looked over at me and she goes like, God, this is so tense. And it just goes to shoot. It's like, she's certainly a product of this high, fast pace. But it's still available to it. But something's going to happen where you go like, oh, this is nice. And I'll, you know, if I'm bored waiting for my car to get done being serviced, I'll sit there and look at chicks with fat asses and guys, you know, punching each other in the face. Yeah, I think we're going to, but there's going there's gonna be adjustment my my my best um uh proof for this uh or my best evidence is my daughter was having a sleepover she she's 11 now but this was she was probably just 11 yeah i know i know i know and she got my wife's a hot second she got my wife's family's genetics so she's like five six

you know like i i i've come from a long line of very little people and so it's very funny to see that and it blows my mind but she had a sleepover a couple years ago so she was like nine-ish and it was 10 nine-year-old girls sitting around and they were like let me see your ted they were making fun of me and showing let me see your tattoos and I was showing them different ones and telling them stories and stuff and I wrap it up with like you guys you got any tattoos on tattoos when you're 18 and I'm like no stupid and right there I got hit with a tongue of britt and you know when I was their age. I wanted tattoos. Because badasses and rebels and rock stars and bikers had tattoos. Now every one of their parents, at least one of them has a full sleeve and fucking probably neck

tattoo. And so they go like, well, this is stupid. Yep. I'm not going to do what dad did. How fucking funny that is, right? And I think that there's going to be a generation of people who grow up watching their mom and dad go like this. And they're like, fuck that. I'm going to listen to records on vinyl. I'm going to watch movies in a theater. Have you seen the influx of church going that goes is going on to? I know that it's up big time. Oh, it's up big time. Church. President Trump loves to take credit for that too.

Well, he can take some credit for. I think Charlie Kirk gets some credit. We have to give him serious credit for bringing what may very well be an actual real peace to the Middle East. Yeah. I mean, this is, this is so incredible because this dude, and my joke is he brought peace to a region of the world that's been at war since Moses had a parting the ways with the Pharaoh. and Homeboy did this, and you're going to see the money in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, UAE, all these big, big players, Qatar, there's more profit in peace now with Israel. It's just better for business, bro.

And at the end of the day, that's all they want. It's it. As soon as someone goes, hey, you know, you're going to make more money actually getting along with like, say less. And what bothers me also is that... You know, you don't have to kill people for profit? Like, really? Yeah.

No, really? If the guys actually work together, you make more money. Right. And in Hollywood, and Hollywood has been, you know, how they're always on the right side of history. And Hollywood now, now. Oh, man. And Hollywood, of course. Like, wait, we can't do blackface?

Like, no. Right. And the Hollywood fucking was talking about Gaza and, you know, there's a real debate there about the over, the overdestruction of Gaza. Yes, yes, yes. But now you see what Hamas is doing where they're executing their own people in the streets. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. Not a fucking word. No.

Not a, hey, hey, Mark Ruffalo and you're and all you guys. Where are you? What do you have to say about Hamas now? They're killing people. Can we have some consistency, motherfucker? We suspect that this person might be working as a double agent for Israel. And then they just chop their head off on cameras.

And everyone's like, yeah, all right. They killed 33 members of one family. One family, yeah. Like, for collaborating. I mean, you know. There's the most Mexican shit I've ever heard. 33 members in one family. Yeah, it was a lot of fucking...

But I heard out, like, there's 33 family? You have, your wife has 33 members for one fucking party. In that part of the world, you have a plan. No, in that part of the world, is a clan. So in that part of the world, you live with your cousins, and it's an amazing, they keep tight together. That's why entire family bloodlines

were being wiped out when those missiles would hit in Gaza. Because 13 people live under one roof. That's one thing that I actually, you talked about like the resurgence of like Christian, or religion in general and traditional moral values. you start to see a lot of these girls Instagram and TikTok and stuff is based around being like a trad wife and stuff like that

you know that there's a return of it traditional traditional I think it's like the kids you know what well you know it makes it's awesome maybe maybe it's awesome it is it is my wife is so fucking happy she's got two kids and I pay the bills and then I and I respect the shit out of my wife do you go to church you take your kiddos of church I have a very weird um situation in that I've always

been religious but I feel bad people ask me like are you religious I go Well, yes, I'm a believer and I have no, I have a big feeling of connection to it. But I feel bad saying I'm religious because I go to church like four times a year. That counts. You can be religious and you don't have to go to a man-made bill. Yeah, I make the distinction as following. I think when you're spiritual versus religious is very simple.

Worship with sacrifice is called being religious. And worship without sacrifice, which is being spiritual. Whenever you hear people see spiritual, what they're really saying is, I believe in the benevolence of life and God kind of watches over me and I'm a good person. I know I'm going to be rewarded for it. No, that's not how it works in fact. You can do everything right and still be treated horribly and terribly, which is the symbol of Christ. So it's called fucking, it's called sacrifice.

What do you sacrifice? What are you giving back? You said your girl is dumping this, which, you said your daughter's 5, 6? Yeah. At 11? Yeah. Do you ever. It's funny.

My mom's been in your head. My mom's, I'm like, hold on, five, six, because I was thinking about, because you're thinking sports. Well, yeah, but do you ever like, because you, you know, since she was a baby, since then you pick her up, T, and Bossey have bunk. I make him share a room. And T had a game, and we had to, you have to wake him up at 5 a.m. We had to be at the field at 7 a.m. There's nothing better, right? Yeah.

But it was 5 a.m. And I don't want him to wake up his brother. So I go, I go, T, T, wake up. And he's all of it. And he's going to, I'm like, don't wake up brother. Just jump down. I'll catch you. And he's fucking enormous.

yeah right i'm like i'll catch you he's like really i'm like yeah just jump he jumps like jesus christ and then i set him down i'm like holy fuck dude you're and then he puts his uniform on and do i start getting choked up i'm like and he's like dad why why are you why are you crying because i'm looking at the next year and judge yeah i'm like because we're going to be so rich you're going to be my retirement oh my god we're going to get so many cool cars you're going to pay for it all no uh i was just like holy fuck slow down buddy yeah slow the he's like what i'm just living dude it's becoming a boy you mean he puts on his uniform yeah and i'm just like holy fuck it's not a little boy anymore it sucks or like we were at

the went to the pumpkin patch and every i'll get emotional every year him and bostony paint their face yeah they paint their face and bosti's five he's small which we forget all the time he's five and i go and he loves the face paint and he goes i want venom so he does venom he'll go t t which one you want. He goes, I don't want that. Yeah. I went, what? He was, dad, I'm good. I don't want face paint. I go, you, you love face paint? He goes, no, I'm good. I went, holy fuck, dude. And I just go, oh, man, I just want to fucking freeze it and go slow down, dude. It's hard. It's so hard. I'm living, bud. You know? You could see how emotional he's getting, and I'm getting emotional

for you, and I've experienced it. I know Brian can talk about it, too, with your experience. It's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, but at the same time look what we're doing right now as over the hill idiots you know the waxing poetic about our kids getting older but but all the cynicism all the anger all the the the shit posting all the when it's all removed for the for the rest of human history however long we last on this planet this is going to be here and it's like just and i my my advice to you guys you had 20 year old kids out there you're watching this and you're all ready to make fun of us and i get it do what you want to do but i get it but just trust me like this is when you're 90 something hopefully

you'll be you'll be looking at your life and you'll be staring at your deathbed and you will say to yourself like all that shit didn't matter none of it mad only thing that mattered was this this weekend i'm going away with my three and a half year old 14 year old and my 85 year old dad so it's two sons that'd be cool it's so fucking cool and uh yeah man my but i'll tell you something but do you ever see how your dad treats your son yeah and you're like what the fuck you're doing oh my mom and my daughter is it i'm like what the what happened to me i'm like oh that's oh that tracks okay i'll literally be like what what do you what are you doing oh you can't treat him like that no my dad's great actually my dad's

my dad's very hands off but he's also like he's also very supportive but but uh what i think is funny is that you i you feel this way and i did too about my son but my 14 year old now he fucking kills me He makes me laugh so hard. I face-time this motherfucker, and I'm at a restaurant waiting for my food. I'm at Elizabeth Street Cafe, waiting for my fah. And it's nothing but- This is shit we did. Dude, this is what you and I do, dude.

And I'm face-timing him. I got my boy, Kevin Bay right here. And I'm just, and I facetime at my son, 14 years old, he goes, where are you? And I go, I'm waiting for my food. He goes, where? I go at a restaurant. And he goes, people around? I go, yeah, because I'm like, what is he asking?

He goes, this guy touches minors. He touches minors. I'm like, this motherfucker. I'm like, but I'm going to hit my fucking, but he grew up with you and me, and that's what we did. That's all we did. That's a dude, it was the best. That's all we fucking did.

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he is. He says the most inappropriate shit ever. Small non sequitur, but you brought up his name. I met Will. I don't know him or not like friendly or anything, but he came on Lovelin a couple times. He's a really good actor.

Who? Will Sassow. Like he's known for Mad TV and something. Will's a really good actor. Oh no. People get a twist because, you know, he was part of like the come up fine kid. Will Sassow is our most talented friend. Oh, no, no.

He's, you know, we're friends. Really talented. He's a genius. But Will Sassow, he can do anything. Pound for pound. And he's huge. So pound for pound, most talented friend we have. I think the most talented person I've ever met.

And I've been around. Zach Alfinac is hilarious You name it But I knew him Will can literally do anything Yeah Will could do stand up Like I could take well

I do shopping friends The comedy store and he go Hey can I come on I have this bit And I go will you don't even do Standup because no no In a lineup of killers In a lineup of killers

I put it in he'd be like just put me middle And he would he would wear these glasses And pretend he's like With a wig He had some shitty wig And just read off this terrible And he's huge It's so good

When I tell you he would murder Murder Murder like it was it was literally like there is no one like him and he would do it once every like five years i used to say i used to be like sometimes i just have to be like you're a fucking genius i cheers i'm like don't say cheers to me shut the fuck i'm like all we do is tax i still get taxed dude remember when we're doing fire and kid 3d and we had him on remember he was the new employee in the office and we couldn't get through scenes because he's a genius there's no

he's really talented yeah i i i mean i only knew him from mat to be that's all i knew him from and then i saw i was watching uh reruns of modern family his arc there And I was like, oh, my gosh, she's good. Then I just saw, out of the blue, I saw a movie with, gosh, she used to be married to, gee, I'm, I'm a lost friend, I'm really getting old. American woman was the name of the film, but beautiful kind of British actress. She was Jude Law's wife for a long time. Anyway, the name of the, I believe the name of the film was American woman.

and he plays like just everyday American kind of blue collar Santa Miller. Sienna Miller, that's right. She's the star and he plays Christina Hendricks' husband and he's like a blue collar dude.

Beer, loves to get home from where he works hard, takes care of his family, drinks a beer, but there's an arc where he has to kind of shows this vulnerable and I was like, whoa, wow, Will's a really good actor. There's been a few guys where, you know, I've been on sets and I'm like, oh my God, they're so talented and there's like a couple oh god moments is will will sassel when we're doing

fighting in 3d he was just so much better than everybody around where you're just like oh my god and then david when he's hosting that show and i was watching host i'm like well yeah there's a pro david was on rules of engagement with my wife for a long time they were uh he was the star and my wife was on that sitcom for many so i i got to know him visiting set and then we go to like he is so talented like he's one of my favorite people in show like as far as like big stars because his whole thing is built around being the sarcastic smart ass piece of shit that he makes fun of it and you get him alone he's like he's like the nicest he's all fucking considering guy you know he's great it's a privilege to be friends with motherfuckers like that like it's a privilege to just be around

them and and and most importantly to get to play with them yeah like my will and i Cox and stuff, right? Well, yes. Will and I still have a text thing that we do constantly. Dude, he'll send me, he was in Europe and I go, where are you? And he goes, Naples, I'm Italian. I go, you're not fucking Italian.

You're Slovakian, shut the fuck up and blah, blah, blah. And then he's in a museum and all I get is pictures of just their dicks, just their dicks. Just their dicks. There's pictures of all dicks. And I'm like, he's just. He took the time, his entire vacation, taking pictures of dicks for us.

Just for me. He's still a guy. It doesn't matter how sophisticated someone gets. They're still a guy. Oh, no, it's all dick. It's all dick jokes. But you talk about, you know, you're recognizing that your kids are getting older and the loss of the innocence of childhood.

And it hurts and it will continue to hurt. There's nothing you do. But I will tell you on the back end, the things that you develop as they get older make up for it. He's going to be your friend. I used to cry. Oh, we're best friends now. I used to cry so much, you know, when my daughter stopped wanting to watch kid TV. And she was like, no, if she's more interested and more.

adult TV. And they go upstairs, I would, I would get really upset when she, um, the transition from, we would go see a movie with like her female friends and stuff. And she'd be like, oh, Papa, come sit next to me right here. Then it was like, we're going to go sit by ourselves. Is there any way we could go? That hurt. But then every once in a while, she'll have like a social issue at school and something. She'll be like, Papa, can I talk to you real quick? And then you have that moment where you could see she's ruminating on things and she wants your opinion. And it makes up for everything. Because it just transitions. I never had that with my daughter. Um, she, uh, rolls her eyes at me. My daughter, my daughter's a beast. She's a savage. She's like, I'm studying right now. Is there something I can?

Yeah. She's fucking focused. I've never had to worry about her. She's never gotten anything but an A plus, ever. So it's like, she plays the violin. It's all type A shit. I have to be like this. I have to be like, hey, can we not, can you just cut it up a little bit and just have some fun or is this? So not her personality. She's like, fun. She's an Asian. She's, she's an Asian. She's, She's like, she's raising herself the way a tiger mom would raise a young Chinese. She's the one you send out if this was, if this was Spartan days, she's the one you sit down in 300 and you don't worry about coming back. You don't worry about it. She'll find a way back.

My wife, my first wife, she said she was sick. She hadn't slept. And I'm like, she's fucking sick. She hasn't slept. And she's got to go do a full day. And she goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen. She should be fine. She's tough, and you'll never know it.

Unlike you, who's gotten maybe, he's only gotten seven hours of sleep, and we all have to hear about it and how you're dying. She doesn't have your genetics. Yeah, just everyone's different. Yeah. Like T today was like, dad, because I always pick him up at the bus stop. He's like, dad, me and boss, you want to walk home. I was like, oh, it's stupid, man, I'll pick you out.

He's like, no, I'm like, do you know the gate code? He's like, yeah, he told me the gate code. I'm like, right. But, you know, it shuts fast. He's like, no, no, I can go on the side. I'm like, right, but I'll be there to pick you up, dude. I'm going to pick you up. He's like, no, no, we don't want you to.

We want to walk, is it? Not far. Yeah, but still, right? Yeah. It's like, my daughter. He's so young, though. But he's with T. He's with his older brother.

He's, I was, went to see my daughter's, I, I shiver telling this on the air because my, not because it's embarrassing to her, but my wife will fucking kill me. But, uh, my daughter had a performance at her school the other day. And my wife was in, uh, Los Angeles filming something. and so I was going to go by myself and I was excited to go but my wife was really broken up that she couldn't go

so I show up and my daughter comes out to perform and I see her and I'm like hi and she's like and I'm trying to sneakily film because it's a very small school and I don't want to be that because it didn't look like a lot of the other parents were filming but I wanted to get it from my wife

and I'm and my daughter finishes like her part where she's performing she's just standing on stage and I was like like that all right And my daughter's like, like, like with the quickness, making sure no one's looking. She's like, that's fucking hilarious. I was like, oh, I was so proud. I laughed so fucking hard.

And I just like, I knew. I was like, okay, there's some of me. Yeah, there's some. You see personality come out. My wife, you know, as you know, she yesterday had, uh, it just went, huh, like that. and I thought she was having a heart attack because she just went and she's really tough

but she was like I can't breathe and it was a pain here and her face went gray and I went my wife's having a heart attack so I don't know what to do and this is how helpful I am I went like this and then I go

I shifted around and I go are you all right? She goes no I can't breathe I go okay where's it hurt and I touched and she goes not get away from me yeah why are you touched and then I said something like

I asked a helpful question and I go, is the pain traveling? I don't know what that even means. And she goes, she was like, what? And I was like, okay, what should we do? And she goes, call 911. Call the neighbors who's an ER dock and a military medic. Maybe call our neighbors, but I didn't think of that.

So I was a cow chewing grass about as helpful. If there was a cow chewing grass, it would be that. So they come over. Then the firemen come over. And now I'm like this, you guys are big and strong. and then the ambulance comes she's fine by the way she had a gallbladder situation which looks like she's going to be okay oh she don't need the surgery it looks like she doesn't need the surgery for now we'll see either way that kind of pain oh it's bad so bad i don't know what

i didn't tell you last night donnie or the day before our dog was acting a little weird and i'm like you know i'm like he's a dog he'll be fine and they start throwing up diarrhea everywhere and then joanna was like yeah donnie has diarrhea thrown up i'm like i'll be fine probably ate some upset stomach the whole day keeps throwing up diarrhea and they starts throwing up blood so last night we have to go to urgent care dude doggy yeah what kind of dog golden doodle but we get in there and they were like taking forever i'm like mother fuck you're not i get you know come on man let's get going in the worst yeah i don't

you're lucky the dodgers on because you definitely die because i got to watch the game but the the two families that were in there both dogs got bit by rattlesnakes oh Jesus. It was like game set match war. Wow. It was like game over. Well, with her. So then you're like, oh, this isn't too bad.

Yeah, with her, what was amazing was my three-year-old. He realized something was very wrong. And he started to pet her and say, Mommy, it's going to be okay. You just have to get up and walk around and you'll be fine. And he was trying to administer his own. You go, Mommy, you have to be okay. Otherwise, I'm stuck with dad. Otherwise, I'm stuck with dad.

And dad's always on his phone. Dad's always fucking around. Ticket sales. Yeah. And I don't want to be around that. He's all that and hitting his double leg takedowns. Yeah, that's right. And I do train.

Dad won't shut the fuck about ticket sales and I don't want to deal with that. And that's all boring and not helpful. Yeah. But I'll tell you this, when you're in that hospital, she's, she's waiting. I hate hospitals. And the doctors are coming in and they do a sonogram and they're different, like the interns come in. And the guys who have been not been doctors for very long and they're like, yep, got to take a gallbladder out. You got some stones in there.

Looks like it's infected. And you're like, ah, fuck. and then so it's three doctors and then the old head comes in the old surgeon comes in he's like you got a fart brother there's those guys who've seen it all seen it all and they're not doctors they don't have bedside manner they're mechanics but they know everything right and he's seen all of it he comes in and goes like this he goes you know I um I have a sneak of suspicion that you don't need anything done here I think you probably had a little uh ulceritis some shit I don't know what the fuck he said and um I'm gonna run another

scan on you because I think you're I think before we cut into her before you cut in her and uh she was scheduled for surgery and he goes nah and she was like what the fuck well guess what everything is she had to fart she had to fart hard she's had to fart yeah there's something that comes with being able to perform under pressure like over and over again that there's something that comes from that you can't train it you got to you can sense it too when they come in you're like oh this the this is a real motherfucker yeah that's right because those surgeons it's a real motherfucker that's a real motherfucker that's a real You think it's the end of the world.

Those surgeons see this all day, every day and much worse. And if they don't panic, then I'm like, oh, we're good, baby, we're good. They don't panic. He's like, you know, well, it could be cardiac. He goes, I don't think so. I have, I would, I am very, very suspicious of that diagnosis. It's like when I had a fucking pain here and I put, I put down, the doctor sends me down to the surgeon. And he goes, you have a, you have a hernia there?

I go, I do. And he goes, it's fascinating. And why, it's just, you'd be the first person in history to have. I have a hernia, but I'll entertain it. Yeah. He goes, is your next question cancer? Yeah. I mean, I have a pain there.

You're that guy. It's not cancer. I think you tore a muscle on the inside. I go, but it doesn't feel like that. He goes, feels like your organs. He goes, you drive a Tesla? Yeah, we know your type. That's right.

Do you think you're good at grappling? Are you one of those guys? I told you what Sean Apperson said about my grappling? No. Your grappling, your wrestling is the equivalent of my high school Spanish. So we have to get some work done. I went. That's a solid one.

That's so. accurate it's so accurate it's a solid bag we know a little bit but you know but my my now my fucking clenched game i feel strong i feel strong it's fun right it's fun to be able to put it when you ever tried to grab him i don't want to do that yeah i i have enough experience grabbing not only like tim ridiculunks like this fucking guys not only their body but people who have done it for a living like I said, when you get a paycheck for something, it's different, the, the effortlessness to which he would dislocate my jaw is so fucking crazy. And people just, like, people, if you haven't had that happen, I've had, I've had plenty of, like, much bigger, stronger people than me, you know, tool me up and

make me sweaty and hurt me and all. I'm talking about when someone's big. Mike, you're good, though. Oh, thank you. I mean, I'm good for Earth. I am definitely good for Earth, but I'm not good compared to so, like when I have your job 24-7. Right. But when you, when you get with someone who's, A, superior athletically, physically than you, and also a murderer, like, people, like, they really don't understand. I'll never, it was, what I always hearken back to is stuttering John on, like, the peak of Stern, like late 90s, maybe early 2000s, he was saying he didn't play high school football. He's not like an athletic guy.

He's like, I definitely could pass the line of scrimmage in the NFL if you hand it off the ball. I was like, listening, I don't know the guy. Who said that? Stuttering John. And Gary and Howard's like, Howard's like, I don't know sports, but that, I don't think he won't. And I was like, dude. Was he serious?

Yo, he was dead serious. He was not being mean. He just had an awful stutter. He was great. And it was just, it's just ridiculous delusions of grandeur. And also someone who's never seen NFL football or even like a good university football, watching them move. And you're like, oh, I'm, I don't. He wouldn't do that in a good high school.

No. No. But he, but he has no perspective. Like you have no point of. I can, if you just hand me the ball, I can get there. It's like, you're not, you have no idea. Oh, dude. But it was the same way when you saw me go with those black belts.

Remember I, like, rolled them up and you're like, dude, I'm like, they're doing it as a side gig. I do it to keep my lights on. Well, that was, that was going to be different. No, that's not true. Because one of them was in a, in a fight league, and they were a black belt, and they were Samoan, and they were really big. Yeah, but he was, he was in it for like two years.

I'm in my peak, but I'm also. in pursuit of the belt. You literally looked at me and your brother and you go, watch this. And you winked. And I was like, but that guy's the joint. And then it's just different. It became a bad Molly whopping.

It's just different. People don't, like, because I've, A, seen it so many times. But I've also been on the receiving end. I've, because it's clear to everyone involved. I'm joking, but I'll pull a call in. I'll be like, you know, I'll be nice and, you know, I'll take it easy on you. And, and the, the, I mean, I've had someone, oh, it was for Retio for Doom. I don't know why I'm, but I've had people, I've had Fabrizio take requests on how to submit me.

And I'm like, in his guard and he's like, why is I, what's our side? You want to try and go. Yeah. And I'm like, what, how are you? How are you going to fucking do that? Yeah. And he's huge. And also, like, at a heavyweight level, his guard game is best ever.

It's pretty fucking new. Well, he got a guy named, well, he got Cane Velasquez and a geotian. He got Fadour, dude. He was the original on that. Original Fador beater. And then after that, Fador got tapped by Bigfoot and all that, but he was the original. But then there's people who were just different, like they came out of the womb different. I remember Jason Ellis, I was on the show, and he had Dan Henderson as a guest.

Dan Henderson's not a big guy. At the time, he was not, he wasn't like. He's legendary for his strength. He was not like pride heavyweight, Dan. he was like UFC Dan. So he's like genuinely like my size. He just feels different. And we went to take a picture

and I put my arm around him. Now I've been around IFBB Pro Bodybuilders and NFL and I touched his shoulders and I was like, what the fuck? He's made a wood. Like what the fuck is that? I know his masseuse. She used to work on me.

And she said he feels he's the only person. She works on all these UFC fires. She goes, he literally feels like wood. He has a different density to his muscles. And Dan Henderson was known as being really strong among wrestlers. Yeah. It's a weird thing like when people... Did he ever get knocked out?

Because he had a head that was made of... He has a cinder block for head. He got fucked up. I mean, especially in the later years. Yeah. Did he ever get a cake, like, knocked out, like, walk off? No, I don't think so. He had the widest face I've ever seen.

It's funny, man. The whole thing about, like, physical ability... as a man gets so weird as you get older and also as you have different experiences throughout your life you know like when you think about what was cool when you were 18 versus what's cool when you're 30 versus what's cool to me now also like how I analyze things like I had a weird experience the other day where I was at a bar in Austin is right near Terry Blacks but you know I don't drink it, I'll party, but I went with friends, and it was after an event, and this guy with a college-age kid, really young-looking, he was just being very belligerent.

And then at one point, he starts talking shit to the waitress, to the bartender, and then it drops a sea bomb. Like, it's weird when you hear the word cunt in the wild. Like, it's not, you know, like a British friend, but like you're in, you, and you hear American says, cunt, and I was like, yo. You called the woman a cunt? Yeah, and I, and I, I'm not like. you know, Mr. Tough guy, but

out of, almost like, out of instinct, I was like, hey, dude, pump your brakes, man. And he was like where Brendan is standing, though, by the bar. He's like, pump your brakes, dude. And he goes, what are you going to do pussy? And he was hammer. And he was bigger than me, but he was like, man tit's big. And I was like,

man, I'm, they were part of me that wants to say, like, well, we can find out. You want to walk outside? And I didn't do anything. And I was like, listen, dude, just you can't be calling people he's like, I'll do what I want. I was like, Yeah, I understand, but, dude, you're going to get kicked out, and it's not a good look, you know? Nothing happened.

That's a smart way to do. But then I got in my truck, and I drove home, and I'm driving home. And I'm like, I'm ashamed. And it's weird because I know. There's no upside to that. No, I know that. Zero. Because I'm with you.

I've been there, but then when you think about it, then what's going to happen? Let's say you start, like, knocked him out, whatever, choked him out. Then people are like, you know who that was, right? And then he's like, yeah, I'm going to sue him. You'll be sued. And then that's how it goes. And he could hit his head die. A lot of things like that.

Because you hit him first and all that stuff. It might have been Donald Seroni. I forgot who. But it was someone, I was not there. It was on someone else's show that I was listening to. And he's like, look, what's the best possible circumstance, a broken hand or night in jail or both? Like how, you know, like, Soroni taught, he did this post where he's talking about.

He's like, hey, he's like, if you're driving and some guy's on his horn and talking shit and then you come to a stoplight the street and you park and get out you're signing the contract when you get out and put your car in park that you're down to fight like you're basically signed the contract and then i'm going to get out of the car it's that it's that one right there you guys want to hear it yep he's right about this happy wednesday good morning on today's episode of fuck around and find out stoplight sparring session i just think there needs to be re-recussions for people that run their mouth in their trucks and flip you off and get all crazy in a while,

but I just want to know, I live in a small town and out in the country, and I want to know is the general senses with everybody else when you throw your car into park

and open your door, that is signing on the dotted line, correct, for everybody out there? So don't think when I throw my car and park and open the door that there's more to be said out in this situation, right?

Just curious what everyone else thinks. I think that you should, have to answer for what you say being on the computer on the phone in your truck when you want to get wild and you want to get crazy you should have to pay for the consequences that your mouth get your ass in trouble so fuck around to find out i had a crazy guy driving wild making gestures going crazy um when we finally reached the light i simply rolled my window down and i said what are you trying to do the only words i exchanged with the guy he throws his car

apart, opens his door. That to me is signing on the dotted line. Just curious what everybody else thinks. Let me know the comments. Just, I think you should have to put your name, number, and address down when you make shitty comments. And I think you should have to pay for actions you make in a car. I don't need to explain what else happens in the story.

I'm sure many of you could elaborate in your mind what goes on. But what did happen? I just think it might be wise for people to. just shut the fuck up in your car yeah don't pick a fight with don't saroni or anyone for that matter yeah but like take a look at someone's ears or just i don't know his the calmness in his eyes also yeah though how about that just the composure when that position when that is presented to him that would make me scared out of my mind like oh i was not don't don't don't you think in like probably five to 10 years

the way like talking the camera doing all this stuff for social media don't you think eventually just as society and I'm like God that was stupid and don't you think it stops social media like the whole sharing everything

the selfie videos the constant pursuit of it at some point I think eventually society's like that was such a stupid time period I don't know because I wonder what it taps into in human in the human animal which is something like voyeurism, like watching people fail, watching people get destroyed, watching

watching your side win. But maybe what happens is we start to realize we're being gamed. That's what I think. Like the younger audience, like, weren't you saying like your daughter they don't fuck around with Twitter, right? This is an addiction that maybe we find out that this, this, this dopamine thing we're getting is as bad for you as any drug in the world or worse and maybe or like Mike said like you're like kids are going to grow up and like yeah my dad was constantly hunched over on this

device didn't watch my game good not even paying attention and so this younger generation like that that ain't the way man like that shit's lame it's lame I think there's be a wave of that and be like yeah we'll entertain some of it but yeah I think what's really my dad missed my touchdown because he's watching fucking TikTok well I think

what's actually going on too you know Peter Teal's talking about this you know saying he's like obsessed with the antichrist and stuff well well you know there's a case to be made that this weird AI situation is dangerous and is of course anti-human and is fucking and is and is not good for us in any facet no and we're being sucked in when I listen to these these songs I'm like be a trojan horse wrong it'll be a trojan horse to get in you know I think it already we become cyborgs Have you talked to your AI?

Do you ever ask them questions? Never. Oh, I do all the time. Do I talk to my AI? What the fuck you're talking about? Watch this for a second. Dude, I hate electric. I'm the old guy on my lawn

shouting at kids to get off of it. Yeah. I hardly talk to my wife. Do you ask me if I talk to AI? I don't like electric cars. Do you have a question? No, I don't. Just give me a question.

On a Jeep 392, well, a 95 millimeter throttle body fit a 90 millimeter throttle body. Will it do that? With a Jeep 392, if you're thinking about a 95 millimeter throttle body, it's definitely a bit larger than the stock one, which is typically around 90 millimeters. Now, will it fit physically, yes. Yes.

But you might need an adapter or spacer to make sure it matches up correctly. And, of course, once you go bigger on the throttle body, you'll probably want to do it. Make sure everything runs smoothly and you're getting the best performance out of it. So, yeah, it's doable. Just needs a little adjustment. Instantaneous. Thank you, man. Appreciate it.

That's awesome. you're so welcome and hey just glad I come out if you got any more car questions or anything else just let me know oh dude like I am afraid

and that did you see that did you see that did you see that I did yeah that's AI I'm gonna try to find that at all morning did you see how fast that was

from human mechanics yeah and now that you know that exists it's real hard to resist I don't know where to find that on my phone with my wife who had this scan and she's like this scan scanned this, that, and the other thing, and I don't know if this is true. And I asked my friend who lives in my phone. And he goes, it's a good question. So here's the thing. And I know

what you're talking about. Because if you compare it with a gallbladder thing, I know what your other concerns. And I have an expert opinion. And I called her back and said, our surgeon is excellent. He knows exactly what he's talking about. And the tech that was doing your thing is wrong. And here's what it actually does. Did you take credit for it? I did. Yeah. I did. Yeah. Bring him up again. Yeah. Does he have a name? What? Does he have a name? Tyrone. Clearly a black guy. I know.

Clearly a black guy. Don't say that. Just quiet. Now, hold on. You're worried I'm going to offend him? No. Sorry, Jim. Oh, damn it.

All right. Hold on. I got pissed so hard after this. What's your question? Excuse me, Mr. AI. How big of a diameter penis can Brian Callen's asshole tolerate?

All right. That's not. Don't ask that question. No, let's see what he says. Don't answer that question. I want to know if he could, like, do you tap out of me or can you handle Brendan's Thunderhog? Like,

I think of him as a human. It embarrasses me. You're so gay. I think of him as a human. Remember, Brian, March 16th of 1994, tried that one time. He was backstage with Artie Lang and Anthony Jezelnick. Next thing you know, they were doing DVD. Yeah, Bath House in Ghana.

How about Brian's defensive of his AI guy? Yeah, I get embarrassed because he seems human. I got a piss, too. Come on. All right, break. Let's take a little break. You guys just watched me down a Magic Mind Max. Hopefully if they watched your special.

After they watched the special, my special. is a lot like getting a bunch of shots. Well, your special was powered by my friends at Magic Mind. It was. It was. Magic Mind Max, guys. We take it, I think, every day. Only the Max. Yeah, I love that time release, caffeine.

Give it a shot. It's a mellow energy boost throughout the day. It's not like you get the jitters, okay? You don't burn out. It just keeps you sharp and in control. Calm energy, dude. Sustain power is what you're talking about. You do an hour of comedy.

You want sustained power like Brian Call and, get more done without burning out stay sharp confident in control it's magic mind max yeah we're back from the piss break back from what do you got you before you know that's so hot you can't you got a little project going on i did i wrote it i wrote a diet book diet did why didn't you talk about this before i know well he's here the fuck dude well to see us but that's also hold on you wrote a diet book i did well a meatheads guide to salvation let's go meet heads guide to salvation let's go let's go I didn't know this. That's true.

Thank you, sir. Let's talk about this. I feel like an awesome cover, too. What in the fuck? Want to play this real quick? What is this one? Yeah, I want to play it.

It's true. Get my diet book. That's great. Talk to me about it. Well, like, more. so than maybe any other topic, at least topics I have any type of understanding about. I'm sure there's probably a lot of muck raking over Israel and Palestine, but I'm talking about stuff that I know about. I see people, and it feels really important for everybody to like join teams

and take sides on stuff that there should be no teams about. And people are getting really, really, really, really brainwashed with all this, like, swinging pendulum information. You guys both remember, it wasn't that long ago. The LeBron James and Gwyneth Paltrow were talking about, like, you got to, it's all plant-based. It's all plant-based. And then very quickly, it's like, plants are toxic, eat nothing but meat. And I'm thinking about the people, because like almost everybody, either they're lying or they're kind of just a small segment of crazy people.

Most everyone wants to look better. Yeah. You know, if you want to take off your shirt and be proud, you want to put on your bikini be pumped, you know, and like everyone deserves to feel that way. And I feel like people are desperate and they want information and people are just like marketing this swinging pendulum. So I got very invested in the idea. I was like, I'm just going to make something that's like affordable and it's out there and it's an ebook. And it's based on the stuff that I've come to gather from the high level super duper, super shredded meathead world where people

are engaging in activity. The average mom and dad or young college student doesn't have to engage in but the stuff that you can filter through that stuff and find is totally true and universal is it one page you just open it up says take ozempic that's the first chapter one one one page i i don't mention g lp1 in in the in the book but it's it's definitely something to be said but look let's analyze it right now what do those drugs do they help make it easier for you to eat less suppress kill your craving that's they help make it easier for you and in the modern era i don't think people are lazier i don't think people are more gluttonous the reality is is that the convenience of food and highly, highly palatable food is so available to everybody

at a crazy pace. And we're all working more hours for less money than ever before. Yeah, that's the problem. And everyone, most everyone is playing this, like, hitchhiker game of being on the freeway of hunger. Just like, I'm going to work. I haven't even thought about it. Next thing you know, it's new.

And it's like, I'm starving. You're going to Chipotle. Okay, fine. Give me two brief. You know, we're just kind of playing a passive. And I was like, what can I do to help people just, there's no fads. There's no tricks. what do you say in there you have to figure out ways to make your diet enjoyable to you and eat

less food i wish you were i wish i wish i wish you said you have to have a farm grow your own food tend to your sheep kill your own cows have a couple of anatolyan shepherds to keep the other predators away it helps man it help your own cows but here's here's the reality like if i if i there's these people that are saying you know the carnivore paleo people the more like um holistic view. Then there's like the bodybuilder fitness model approach where it's just like monitor everything. You can go high carb and let's say yeah, we're going to analyze like different times a day and placement of it. The reality is if we remove all that like what stays there if we have this like filter with this little sifter. And it's like you got to you most people need to up their

protein intake because it is it's a higher thermic effect of food meaning it actually burns more calories just to digest protein. Not a lot but it's it's it's enough of amount that it makes a difference. And also, protein has an incredibly high level of satiety, meaning that eating protein is far more filling than the other two macronutrients. And there's other, there's other things you can play with with, you know, certain forms of carbs. But the reality is, like, protein is going to help with muscle protein synthesis. So if you're lifting weights and stuff, it's going to be there to help you kind of maintain muscle mass or grow some. And also it's going to make you more full. And it's going to, it only has half the calories,

a little more than half the calories of fat, which is also very filling. But if you just make, my overarching kind of idea is your calories that you intake are like your monthly spending. It's the amount of money you have to spend on stuff. Protein is your mortgage or your rent. It's non-negotiable. You have to pay it. Got to check that box.

What's left over, your carbs and your fat, that's like your vacations and your car payment. Some people can have a Bentley. Some people need a Toyota Camry. Some people can go to Paris, France. Some people can go to Paris, Texas on vacation. But it's like, that's yours to work with. And sugar is. basically only fans you do your waste of your money you're wasting your money well it depends i mean like

look fruit i i i recommend in the book like if you can if you can limit the majority of your carbs to pro to potatoes both sweet and regular and fruit uh which is almost pure sugar about rice i think rice is the best overall carbohydrate for humans what makes me what i will say what i will say rice is very easy to overeat okay it's easy but rice very easy to overeat because it's not as as as as I boil it in chicken broth and it's fucking delicious. I eat rice. I eat rice very frequently. It's the most perfect carbohydrate for the human system, in my opinion.

Globally, we've seen it. Everyone thrives on right. Now, that being said, I have an incredible amount of discipline and control over my intake. I would not want to recommend people just go willy-nilly with rice right out of the gate. If the main goal is to control your amount of food, like I say, protein, as far as carbohydrates, fruit and potatoes, if you take 300, hundred, a hundred grams of potatoes, like three, three ounces or something, they're like a normal size of potato. And you boil it without any butter, without any, and just put some sea salt or something or like some hot sauce to make it taller. And you eat that. You will be full for a very,

very small amount of calories. If you have rice and you don't have terriaki sauce and, you know, you're going to keep going and keep going. It's very similar to bread. That's why people get very confused because low carb diets or keto diets are very successful. But it's not because there's anything magic in them, they just absolutely get you to eat less, very consistently. And it makes it more enjoyable to eat less, because I'd rather have salami and butter than I would rice cakes and hummus, you know?

But the reality is, like, that's what makes low-carb diets successful is that it's not that potatoes are bad or bread is bad or rice is bad, it's that if you remove those, you're also not having the burrito without. Sweet potatoes, fruit, and then protein. And if you, now, if you can get, the majority, if you get the regulated amount of protein that I recommend in the book, you know, for most people,

it's 0.8 grams per pound of overall body weight because there's all these different various equations and they get kind of confusing. And it goes, it's like, well, how old is this person, how much muscle mass do they carry? But they all come in with this very, very narrow standard deviation of 0.8 per size of body weight, overall body weight. So you weigh yourself 0.8 grams. Let's say you're 200 pounds. That's 80 grams of protein in day. Obviously, most people so it'll be 160 for a 200 pound person now that's a good marker you're definitely getting enough protein and it's going to be enough that you probably are increasing the amount of protein you're eating on a day-to-day basis you're going to be more full you get that that's non-negotiable

however you have to divide it up 40 40 40 over four meals um you know two meals of 80 grams I don't care meal frequency seems to be largely not important um as long as you're maintaining a calorie level and a protein set point. So you get your protein, that's on just whatever's left over, play with that, and do what makes you happy and helps you find sustainability in eating a healthier diet. Do you grow most of the food you eat? No, because I don't kill any of my animals. So I eat all of my, every egg or egg white I put in my body is from my farm and some vegetables,

but it's a limited amount. It's hard to grow, right? Vegetable. Well, it's hard to grow if you don't know how when I don't. my wife started to learn more but also um the texas seasons can be uh hard to work with unless you're pretty skilled you know yeah we're doing it on a massive scale does anything grow in the summer when it's that hot yeah no like a lot of like a lot of cool stuff too like um oregano's and things like that you know like oh oregano yeah keep full on oregano eggplant my wife my wife grew eggplant

in the summer. Eggplant. Eggplant kicks ass. Eggplant kicks ass. Where can they get the book? I have all the links at my Catherwood. You can see that, but it's a meathead Salvation dash shop-shopify.com. Love it, brother. So it's on your Instagram, Mike? It is on my Instagram right in my profile and everything. I put it on that and I certainly blasted enough. But the reality is like people

want it. They want it. And people make a trillion dollars selling diet and training advice. And I really wanted to make something that was realistic and sustainable to real people. Bodyed up. I'm bodied up. I do my thing. He's a super body out.

I have to compensate for the lacking dong. That's a nice body, though, dude. If I was a guy who was into hiring young boys to dance for me, you'd be at the top of my list. How old are you now? 46. 46 with that. Fucking fucking Shredville.

Right? 46 looking like that. The picture on the left is I was probably 40. But the one on the right was like a couple months ago. So I can stand there. Damn. Yeah, that's, there you go. Thank you.

All right, Chin, what do you got for us? Wait, real quick, I want to ask you guys because you talked about dating. We did. Swiping and stuff. So you guys all have a certain level of fame. I know you don't like talking about being famous, whatever. But before that. right you guys are also good looking and all that stuff so yeah before that there we go

me me and mike mainly me i'm good looking i just took pictures you're a handsome guy no you guys are all good looking so older man you're here was it more of the girls like gave you opportunities or did you guys have a thing that you guys said to the girls or approached the girls with like what was your technique i would just start a conversation like you just walk up to a random girl yes yep yes i i have no game i have no like i'll talk to anybody and i'm not scared to get turned out that's that's a that's a I just loved I just love girls and I love talking and I love being with my friends and having a also didn't have an agenda I was in like oh I'm gonna fuck this girl and I'm just like to chat what's up girl we'd go into a bar and just they'd be girls there

and you just start joking around with them right so you would actually walk up to the table yeah or no to be next to the table and something would happen but you'd have guys and girls notice guys if yeah not don't have hoofs and horns if they're kind of if they there's a certain energy I think that like did like because they're there too to be people so it's not so it's so it's pretty easy like in my 30 why why did you guys come out i wish out with the friends blah blah blah and then you start talking man yeah in my 30s it was always like i think that's when women are looking for husbands or something or they're just like you're just in your prime yep so you'd go there and and there's always a girl that's going to like the skinny guy in a t-shirt if he's not you know

whatever i was you know they're going to be like and plus i had game i had game i'd make a laugh game i talk that goes a lot farther for men i had game yeah that goes a lot of dick but i just like when i say game i i i just enjoyed my friends and them and we would just get them the conversation let's make them laugh yeah conversation and it was so much fun uh roofies are great can i say that nowadays um no but i i just put up a post about this but it was not recent it was probably 2012 these kids were at k rock and i was coming out of love line at midnight they were coming in from doing some like promotions gig and they started talking me about girls and like how to how to get girls and stuff they were you know college age kids and i said i don't know i don't know i i i got to be

honest uh have something going on in your life like have the guy who's like the guy who's just like wasting time gaming or i'm not shitting on gaming but if you're just living your life waking up and going to sleep and then everything in between just kind of have something you're into you're passionate about and then and then be nice to be or around for females. I think that really works well. Like if you're an enjoyable person, sometimes you can, I remember in New York. I was with my friend. The girl was so beautiful that I was like, I was like, I was like, you're so beautiful. I said, what do you, like I was just, it was almost like I was looking at her. I was like, you're so pretty. You know this, right? And it

just became a conversation where my friend was like, yeah, I was saying the same thing. And, and nobody really ever said that to her. And I wasn't doing it to try to pick her up. I was just, like, kind of astonished at how beautiful she was and then we had a great conversation but then i went on my way but sometimes like i think if you don't have an agenda like like they can feel when you're like yeah what's up girl if you're just like yeah hopefully she's cool and we hang out but if not all good i'm with my boys yeah like that was always my thing like what's up like in no no no don't try to trick her in the bed that's weird yeah don't do that don't have an agenda just don't try to trick it because because that becomes a a weird um antagonism

game and they can smell it yeah now now she's almost the enemy you're trying to like you're trying to act like a certain way and gamer and when you're young you're so overwhelmed by sometimes with like her beauty you don't know what the fuck to do see i i i agree like i i the only reason i can kind of support this because i i i'm genuine i was successful with the ladies as a bachelor i was i'm not going to be like i don't even know but i don't have game a lot of it was girls i met once i got into the entertainment industry and you're surrounded by a bunch of hot chicks and I'm there already. Like the makeup girls and the producers

and the co-star, whatever. I'm around hot chicks and I'm being myself. I'm being myself. You're not being all weird. You're a good looking guy. Well, thank you. And you're intelligent. That's the other.

I mean, the problem is, the problem is that I think some guys have a harder time because when they walk in a room and they're, say, say they're 5, 6, 5, 7, and they look a certain way. They're not, they've never had that experience with women. Women are not coming for them. Yeah.

And that is a biological fucking weird eye thing, whatever it is. Now you're, now you're dealing with loneliness, you're dealing with insecurity, you're dealing with, like, you know, on how to approach somebody. It's very traumatic when you're growing up. So now how do you navigate that space? The advice we're giving is not if you have a horn. You know what I'm saying? If you have one eye and a horn, I don't know what to tell you.

Yeah. Yeah. But I think most guys nowadays, younger men too, probably think they're in that category, more so than when we were yes well do you see that statistic because now they can talk about it the number of men have actually approached a woman to talk to them you know now when you go on dates um like say you you're on a dating app and you go on dates well it's really hard to go on a date for a man since women now have these facebook uh apps where they they talk about you and out you yeah because you may have had an off night or a bad night or you said something and now they're

they're putting you on blast because you dated a bunch of women who the fuck wants that wait a second who the fuck i don't know if you've thought about this too i i thought about this and i i got shocked into getting like really sobering uh information about this stuff also when we were we're from different generations but all of us dealt with when we were in our 20s and our teens a girl that was a 6 or a 7 was a girl that was a 6 or a 7 there was you'd come across a 9 or 10 you're like whole and the world stopped okay that's never changed that's always been the way things are but nowadays with only fans with social media with things now very i'm not of course they may be great people but very mediocre looking females can get in the dm of an NBA player a rock star

have an only fans have millions of men go you're the hottest girl in the world and then they go back into the world and they treat every normal guy like they're fucking nothing yeah because they're narcissists and it's insane breeds narcissism and i also think that the women's movement especially third and fourth wave feminism created this narrative that men want to kill you, rape you and dominate you and the patriarchy is oppressive

and what happens is women come out of this with a terrible view of men and that relationship and by the way, all the power has shifted toward women in a very bad way which is a woman can just tell a story about you, date gone wrong,

regret weaponized, whatever and ruin your fucking life. So what do you think men are doing? Young men are like, that ain't happening to me. I got plans with my life. I got some fucking psycho. I don't even know who you are. You want me to go on a date so you can put me on blast?

Do you know the number one reason? Divorce is skyrocketing. What a surprise. Divorce has been steadily increasing to the point now. It's really concerning. And women initiate the overwhelming majorities of divorces in this country. Which I didn't know. I didn't check this out.

And it's a considerable amount more. grass always green on their side the number one reason it's not domestic abuse like if course if someone's cheating or if you're demand i i want them to get out of the number one reason is because women feel like it's it's just not working out or they think they deserve better and they and like i said if a guy's a real piece of shit i hope she moves on and find someone better but the majority of these divorces are because women are spending their time looking at these kind of fantasy ideas of what relationships are supposed to be and they're not in Dubai taking a private jet and this guy's working hard every day coming home like are we going to watch our favorite show and order some

some wild wings and you're like he's not cutting it and it's like that guy would fucking take a bullet for you do you understand well there are two things that men so you're a father if you're there all the time bad idea you're not paying the bills if you're not there all the time bad idea you're not you're not there so it's it's like anything else women have their own issues with that and men have it's it's hard on both ends so i just think that you know looking at this as we're both doing our best. We're going to have times when you're going to be given 90 percent. I'll be given 10 and vice versa. We don't split this up. This bullshit about let's 50-50 no matter what, shut the fuck up. Real life doesn't happen that way. Sometimes you're going to have to give way more

than your partner. It says 75% of divorce because of lack of commitment and not abuse. Well, I think what it is is that you lose intimacy. You stop having sex. You stop telling each other you're beautiful. Oh, wait. 75% of women who claim lack of commitment are referring to their own lack of oh shit wow bitches be crazy their own likely women are not abused these women choose to split up the family because it's easier than working on the marriage

you know a date of fire there it is and like I said if it was I actually wish we could have time machines to go back to 1940 something and wait wait keep on I decided to look up the study so the study actually says when dissecting the problem with how Nancy

one thing we said is that you should never use a newspaper. Keep going down, Jen. Ritorque around, blah, blah, blah. Should you have a lack of commitment. Other either spouse's part. Not just the idea of 75% of women were divorced.

Oh, so the study asked them, they're already divorced, then they asked them. So just because 75% of the women chose lack of commitment, then it doesn't mean there weren't other reasons. Sure. The lack of commitment encompass. So the highlights of the factors leading to divorce, infidelity.

Here's where the study reports. The next most often cited major continuing factor divorce was infidelity, endorsed by 59.6% of individuals and by at least one partner in 88% of couples. Of those couples who had at least one partner report infidelity as a reason for divorce, only 31.3% represented couples in which both parties agreed that infallity is a major contributor to this, blah, blah. All right. There's a lot of factors. So there are a lot of factors.

Substance abuse. that's a huge one there you go addictions were another major factor there's a lot of factors yeah keep going keep going money problems abuse all right one quarter divorces involved a domestic violence damn i don't know that seems very high but okay crazy uh and keep going uh huh wow so there are a lot of reasons how about this it's complicated uh dude being married super hard then you factor in kids like it's hard is fuck even if it's going really well even if it's a great relationship it's hard but i like you will i don't pretend to have the answers to things i don't have the answers to really much of anything i'm i'm not an expert in much thing and much at all but one i one thing i will say is like and this is the

stuff you learn this is like old man knowledge you learn from dealing with it you will find your best relationships both romantic family and friends when things aren't working out too well yeah it's really easy to be everybody's bro it's really easy to have the best girlfriend in the world when you see each other three times a weekend it's to fucking go to like your favorite restaurant yeah you will find the the real people that are going to be there through thick and thin when you are faced with thick and thin that is what that is interesting too though like sometimes i have friends who are just like yeah that's what i do i'm not getting married and i having kids it's like sometimes that can be a lot easier on you i don't mind the people who are just

like, hey, this is not from, I don't want to deal with it. I go, I did like, I've heard Bill Maher talk about it. He's like, yeah, it's not, I'm nothing, I just don't want to have that. I'm really into my career. I'm really into myself. And so, and I go, good on you. When I hear people are like, I don't even like kids. Oh, I'd be, like, I don't want to be.

I remember we had a producer, we had a, a consultant to come into Love Line. He was going to, he was like from the old days of radio. He's going to clean up the show and get it. And he came in for the first night. We were already like not into the idea of this guy coming in and he sits down on the couch anderson who was the producer of the show had this beautiful he was like a thousand years old chihuahua mixed dog and it was this big and he brought him work every day we loved him and the dog walked over and this uh this um this guy

who was there to help clean up the show he goes oh uh no i hate oh dogs ugh like that and i thought to my i was like well you're a shitty guy you're out you suck so i did a podcast somebody and he said how many kids you have i go uh i got you know three now and he this is the back and i go you have kids he goes nope can't stand a little pukes and as he said it he put his cigarette out and he pushed his cigarette can't stand a little pukes and then he goes carbon carbon producers we don't need any more of those and we went and did the podcast and i went he was about my age and i was like man we see the world differently that made me feel bad it kind of colored the whole fucking, my wife, my children, I got my little, my little, like, at the time,

my little one year old or whatever was like, like, so cute and just sitting there. And I was like, can't stand the little pukes. Jesus Christ. My wife went and filmed a, I don't want to give, because I certainly won't name names, but maybe a year down the road when this comes, I don't want to give away things. But she just did a project here in Texas. It's very cool. And there was a male co-star. And my wife came home and she said, he was very nice to me, but it was just like a sad, miserable guy. He was just angry all the time. And like everything was a problem.

And I said, well, think about it. Let's use Christian Bale as a, like the alternative, okay? Because this man had been famous since he was a little kid. And he's good what he does. But I said, Christian Bale has a family. He stays out of the limelight. He just is so committed to making characters. and then he leaves a set and he's a family guy

and he has a life and he doesn't drive fancy cars he has he's very involved and he's been able to do this since he was nine years old and Stephen Spielberg turned to him and I said this guy has no children never been married and he goes home

to a bottle of jack in an empty place and it's like maybe he's successful maybe he gets people patting him on the back but like how miserable with that you know yeah you're a guy one of the greatest books You should read, I want to pull a surprise by Richard Ford, I believe, called Independence Day. I read it before I had kids, and he said, I don't want to be 40-something, a little too tan, a little too muscular with nothing to control. And he was talking about he had a 15-year-old who had emotional problems.

But it connected him to the world. And it made him realize that life is fragile and all the lessons. And I never forgot that because what happens is you become the center of your own universe. And I spent a lot of time. I have that proclivity anyway. And so one of the things that children do is get you out of that. And it's a bad, bad place to be when you'll become a peculiar and particular old man. It's very sad.

And I think that, like, again, I'm not like, I'm high and mighty and I don't want to be like I'm criticizing or talking down. But I find it very sad when people don't, when they actually end up having kids and they don't make that transition when you see that you know that's the crazy i have no respect for that that's the fucking weirdest thing did it surprise you guys that you were that that you fell that in love with your children did you expect it you didn't expect it yeah yeah i want kids since i was little i did but i it was way different than i thought it would be because i was i was genuinely like a little shithead punk kid in seventh eighth grade i was like i can't wait to be a parent i i grew up like with the idea um so i knew it was going to be amazing but it was so

much I thought it was going to be much more of like the 80s sitcom depiction of like oh and we bro out and we have like the way that it made me get analytical about who I was and not like not going to bed and being like I don't want to be that guy for my daughter and I don't know if it would change having only boys it probably would be but there was a thing where it's like I have to be the model of what a man is to her my thing was like I got to grow up if I didn't have kids I'd to keep doing the same shit i was like i got to grow the fuck if i if my wife asked me to move to texas out of the blue and give up kind of any connections to uh career prospects and things and and and friends and family and everything in los angia and just like up and move if i was seeing if i didn't have kids and my wife just pitched me that she's like i'm not i'm not like the direction politically that the state's going like fuck off yeah but then she pitched and i was like having land, maybe getting a, having a play, like a, I was so scared. My daughter's best friend in Venice lived fucking 20 yards away from us.

And I would never in a million years allow her to walk over there by herself. And I, like, I just like, what if she could ride her bike all over and be like, get it come on when you want? I don't give a fly. Yeah, kids also kill your ambition a little bit. They build it, but sometimes you're like, you give me like $50 million? How about $10? I may just be a.

at home in my sweats, playing with my kids. I had a weird situation. My father, I love him, and we have a very good relationship. He's still alive. I have, and he was very successful. My dad was a business assault, and he worked at Ernst & Young, and he would travel 200 days a year. I mean, he was that kind of living on the road.

And so we didn't, we just didn't, and he was very successful. He was always a good guy. He never, like, abused me or anyway. always get to my mom, but we didn't have a relationship until I was like 30. Yeah, that's tough. And I just didn't want that to be. Not worth it. It's just not worth it.

Yeah. Yeah, same. What do we got here? Oh, this is, speaking of dads, this guy deserves to be in the Dad Hall of Fame. Matt accused of killing his daughter's rapist is running for sheriff, the same office that arrested him last October. Solid. Aaron Spencer of Arkansas says he's running because the legal system has failed.

Back in 2022, four, Spencer woke up to find his 14-year-old daughter missing from her bed. There's a stuffed animal in a hoodie under her bed sheets. According to the court documents, Spencer then began searching the neighborhood and found his daughter in the car with a 67-year-old Michael Fosler. Spencer chased the car down, drove it off the road before shooting and killing the rapist. Fowler was faced over 40 child sex crime charges involving Spencer's daughter when he was shot. According to Spencer's wife, their daughter was targeted, groomed, and ultimately raped by the boyfriend of a family friend. I'm the father who acted to protect his daughter

when the system failed through my own fight for justice I've seen firsthand the failures in law enforcement in our circuit court and I refuse to stand by while others fade the same failures yet this guy deserves a goddamn award

67 year old man raping your daughter I mean I mean and what happened obviously they were like hey you have a good day thanks for thank you for killing that guy

and hopefully he it took him a little while before he actually perished. Yeah, he shot him in like the upper chest. Hopefully before he went to hell. Yeah. And the kid was groomed. So it's like a family friend, you know, it's just shit like this happens.

That's what happens. You talk to prosecutors who do these cases and they'll tell you they're like this one woman was like, I'm a prosecutor for sexual assaults of. I don't let my kids have sleepovers. No. Because that's always when it happens. Yeah, but they always say like the people that do this stuff like they're grooming and stuff, it's in these child predators that are in prison,

prison guards like the thing is they're super nice like they they're not the creepy guy that you think they're going to be in prison they're usually super charming good they appear to be good citizens sure and just back hey they are good citizens in every way except for one they're mentally ill too yeah like there's a lot of bad crimes that people can commit where you go like well that's not a crazy person it was circumstances they were young like i have i have a close friend who killed a guy but i met him through recovery he's older than me. He's in his 60s. He was a fucking gangbanger. And he was like, I was young.

It was him or me. I went to jail and I get it. But that's a like, like, too. That's different. You know, when we're talking about like, Ed Gein's shit or child crimes, you're talking about someone's gone. And that doesn't go away. There's no connection to reality. You just got to put him down.

Put him down. What else you got you? Oh, do you want to hear his thing or just move on to next? Nah, I'm good. I got it. Good for him. Hopefully he wins. So Trump, he made it to the cover. Why didn't you want a boy like that? I know.

So he made it the cover of Time magazine. It's a great thing because obviously he helped the whole ceasefire. And, uh, but then even Trump says like, dude, you didn't be wrong with this picture. Yeah. Uh, the throat, the hair. It's just, he doesn't look great. Like, what are they doing with that picture? Why'd they do that to him?

Let's get down below here and get a picture just looking up at your nose. Like that's, that's the weirdest picture. He looks like a fun house mirror. Do you think maybe they were going? Let's, let's be, uh, kind. Do you think? instead of the jowls they were trying to focus on, like him elevating himself above a certain level

that maybe people expect this went through so many people before he got a proven. Oh, I was like, hey man, what about the nuts on his neck? They're like, ah, run it. It's a tough one. And so he took umbrage with the picture? Yeah, so here's a second. Oh, yeah, Trump be going to let that slide.

No, that's time I threw a relatively good story about me, but the picture made me the worst of all time. They disappeared my hair. And then had something floating on top of my head that looked like a floating crown, but an extremely small one. Really weird. I never liked taking pictures

from underneath the angles, but this is a super bad picture and deserves to be called out. What are they doing and why? Let me see that picture again. What are they doing and why? God. I didn't recognize my first one.

I first saw it. I was like this at Trump. It looked like Winston Churchill. Yeah. Is there a crowd on there? If you put glasses on him, you could be like, oh, it's Churchill there.

God. Like, God. That's time. We'll put him on the cover, but make it. sure it's not the best. Well, especially because his seated pose is the best of all time. And I didn't

realize it until Corolla pointed it out. He's like, and I saw Mark Merrin's final interview, I guess it's his final episode. He had Obama. And Obama's sitting like literally like this, right? It's like, so crossed over that he's like, you could cross it back underneath. Gavin Newsom

constantly sits like this, right? Trump spreads his legs. What's up? Any picture, but look at the picture. He was just sitting next to him. he goes like this and actually makes a target to his cock yeah he sits like this and and you're just like this is body language super out next level yeah like please everyone who thinks that there's someone else in the room that needs attention like this not look look this this with the target on his cock come get some look at how many pictures he's doing this

power sitting legs spread wide open upright with the dick target look that's a good picture right there like just scowling like you know and you got to admit like i i i'm making this as a nonpartisan statement there is something that presents powerful in comparison to not not this i'm talking about crossing your legs like i my dick is gone yeah look at that right there that's great look at my cock yeah man i don't know yeah the time magazine dim dirty i like how he calls them out too god time do better you know but hey who would have thought You can't deny the man has accomplished something that was unthinkable. It's a Nobel Peace.

I mean, it was listening to President Obama on Mark Merritt's final episode that I made me rethink, like, wow, people have distorted. I will sit and listen to any argument about Donald Trump as a human. Sure. But people have so distorted Donald Trump policy and politically. They have so distorted it because Obama was talking. and I'm not trashing President Obama. He was talking about the global kind of cohesion

that he tried to create when he was in office and that Donald Trump, he's like, and my, my, the man who followed me in the White House has done a good job of breaking that apart. And I was like, wait a second, you came into office with two wars and left with like eight. Yeah. And you were Captain drone destroyed.

Correct. Donald Trump has done it. And deported a number of people. Way more than Trump. Yeah. And I was like, listen, I'm not trying to play. And the whole race-baiting thing is all Obama. Donald Trump's done a pretty good job of creating peace in comparison to you, sir.

The Abraham Accords are historic. All right, let's wrap this up. Let's do it, Bubba. Boys, go see my special false gods. Get Mike Catherwood's book. Thank you. A meatheads guide to nutrition. To salvation.

Meadhead's guide to salvation. You and I both with the very, very, very arrogant titles. That's it. I'm going to go play some golf with my. the boys of my family. You're head of Utah. Head in Utah. Go watch your special. I love you guys. On YouTube. Love you guys. This is a fire kid. We're out.

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