The Fighter & The Kid - Nick Simmons on TFATK — The Diddy Doc, Helen Keller Debate & Total Chaos | TFATK Ep. 1147

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

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Yes, we did, because we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Let's say hi to Nick Simmons, New York comic, now Austin comic, seller comic. Soon-to-be-mothership comic. So soon-to-be-mothership comic, bodybuilder. Wrestling enthusiast.

Wrestling enthusiast, wrestler. Oh, this is embarrassing. Wrestling enthusiast. Dude, you guys would have loved it on the, I'm in La Jolla. That's worse than people talking about you in front of your face. Who the fuck is a wrestling enthusiast? I go to fucking, I was in, wrestling.

I'm in La Jolla. Tony. I'm in La Jolla and, one of my favorite spots on planet Earth. Like just the water and I'm just like, I mean, white, right? And I,

and there was a Volkswagen beetle. Old school one? They were just cruising La Jolla, all of them, cruising in there. Beatles. I'm sorry? Were they younger?

They sure weren't. They sure weren't. Oh, they were older. They were older. It's La Jolla. And they were just, they were just driving there. Not a tear in the world. They're in a group.

They're in a, they're Volkswagen enthusiasts, and they are in a group and probably on an email chain, on an email chain where they're like, hey, how do you guys? You guys, you guys, man, let's let them know. You guys are going to be at the yearly, you know, fucking Volkswagen Beetle convention. Hey, man. I'm part of some of these groups. Thank you for. Thank you for introducing me, though, this time. Last time, no one said anything.

And then there was actually comments that one guy said, is just the owner of Reddit? Who the fuck is? He's made this fucking Serino William. I'm part of those groups, man. What's that? Car clubs? But at least you're...

It's a cool group. You're part of a group where you guys talk about the power and the engine, like all that, right? Like all the details. I mean, Volkswagen bugs are a staple in history, man. Nobody's ever souped up a Volkswagen. It's a Volkswagen. It's a 1942 staple right now.

Yeah, dude. I mean, they're great little cars, but it was just so fun to see them like in these tiny cars. There's some cool bugs. I drove one at the MIP 400 Bubba. Okay. So really? I offroaded. They're really cool little cars.

All right. They're super reliable. So am I, am I being a little harsh on these guys then? Yeah, because you know what it is? Those guys are crushing it so much harder than us. Think about them. They're all old. They're in the Volkswagen bugs.

They're all retired. They have so much money in the bank. this is what they do. Yeah. They're probably getting their dick sucked by fucking pros. I don't think any of that's true. What you said, I don't think I don't actually buy any of that.

Oh, yeah. I think they're just, I think there's guys who own a beetle. In La Jolla though? In La Jolla? Yeah, but they're coming from elsewhere, right? It's like, I think they're hand. Yeah, maybe.

Yeah. Was the meeting in La Jolla? Yeah, they're just, but they were also just cruising around as a group. You think someone's gotten their dick suck for having a beetle? No. Yeah, but not by, not by a trap on your beetle. Well, listen, I'm a woman with noti.

You never heard of bug sluts? You never heard of bug sluts? I've gotten punch in the shoulder from this car so many fucking times. This car has caused more bruising than any of the car. I'm part of a bunch of car truck groups. But the thing is, is they're all different. Like the Porsche one, they don't modify anything. They're great.

They know their shit, but they don't fuck with anything. Ferrari's a little pretentious. That's a little different though. Ferrari and Porsche, like I, you wouldn't like like Lamborghini. owners right now no no no they're kind of fuck but the cars are so fast and powerful and you like own yeah but they don't buy them because of that they they buy them for a status symbol they're not touching them they're not doing anything they're being like hey status look at me i can afford this am i cool now it's oh i thought you meant the volkswagen oh no no oh volkwagon you're just doing it to

fuck butts i don't know you ever heard of bug sluts man yeah everyone has and they were just they were just cruising as a group it's like a jogging group i'm always like you know you see I want a drug. Oh, dude, I want it. You want to go. Oh, fuck. Because you want to just talk to them. Yeah, I love it.

Yeah. Before Tiger's travel ball started, he has a game every weekend. Since I got to Austin, I'd go to a car show every single Saturday morning. Wow. Every Saturday morning. You wouldn't join a run group, though. I would join a run group? Would you?

Would you in a bicycle group? You were not for them? I have my own bike club. Just to show everybody you live in a white neighborhood? Yeah. Yeah. Now that Santo Studio does a run group thing out there in Newport. if I ever see you in one

in all the gear when I was when I was doing the bike stuff it always was weird to me the guys who were in the full get up yeah but I'm sorry single it matches their bike I'm sorry is UPS paying you they're not they're not

what the fuck are you doing dude my neurodynamics I know but you're 250 pounds out of shape I had Mike Perry Mike Platten Perry I did his podcast yesterday I had him laughing so hard when he was like bro you look like you move around you know your jitza's real good

and you're boxing I go let's take it easy now it's not real good at all it's the equivalent of your high school Spanish did you talk to him about taxes but I said I said to my go when shop when I remember when I was like dude I'm getting dizzy from all the sparring you go keep it up how much money are you getting paid how much money and then remember I was asking you questions about I was like yeah but Wayne's not teaching me because I want to go to the body and so when I go this way and you're like you're like well what are you trying to do and I'm like when I jab and I go down and we're sitting like first class in this plane and and I'm and I'm like I know but that's not working and you go finally you realize

you go, hey, I'm not teaching you anything about boxing. I can't believe I have in this conversation. I'm not talking you about boxing. I'm not talking about fighting. Don't ask me any more question. You freaked out in the first class. They were laughing so hard. What is funny about you is how much you train for a fight that's

never going to happen. Fuck, dude. Like, you were just always ready, dude. Yeah, he lives in a gated neighborhood. Like, what is going to happen? Yesterday I got legit mad too because Tim Kennedy goes, because I train with Shane who's super nice to me, but I talk shit the whole time. and then

Tim lies down like he's a spread eagle and he goes come on Brian and I'm like that's insulting don't do that don't lie down like that

and he goes that's okay and so I'm like Shane goes put your fucking knee and do this and I'm like all right

my top game is fucking harrowing long story short Shane lets me get away with shit what Tim will do is I'm doing this is me

under him I'm going like this he's putting his pressure I can't do anything and I'm doing this it's so then i i grab a single he lets me get i grab a single and i yank it into my body and then he reaches over and grabs both my feet and sprawls off and so i go ah and i i tap like that it's not even a submission dude he never runs out of energy it bothered me no out of this world

but it made me mad that i was it made me mad that i was that bad under him it made me mad yes it made me mad that's because you need a reality check i need a reality check and then he goes today I go you should be grateful and kiss his feet that he even rolls with you I agree with you I agree but then I go like this I go today I go I go I go man I suck he goes you're getting better I go I'm terrible he goes you're not terrible you just have an artist's mind and an artist's body yeah that's funny fuck off him always you know he always sends me updates on how you're doing in Jesus I'm like dude I don't give a fuck you know there's no updates but he'll send me like a real update and yesterday he sent it to me he's like dude you'd be impressed man you'd be happy

Brian's actually getting better, his boxing, his Jitsu. I go, cool, maybe be less fucking gay. But I think Tim's literally really trying to, like, encourage you. For a guy who could qualify for an AARP card, you do train really hard. I'm an idiot. Like for 60 years old? Yeah, he brings me over. There could be worse ways to waste your time.

Yeah, I was in my fucking, what is it, my rash guard. And he goes, come over here. He goes, your body's starting to change a little bit. Your back looks good. He goes, you're not a complete pussy. Like, he can't help us as nice. He'll just look at you. Or he'll just, like, text from some fucking place in Africa or something.

He'll be like, he'll just be like, we're like, we have this thing called Old Man Fight Club. And we'll just like updates on, we're going to be at the gym. And he goes, and he'll just get a text. He goes, God, I wish I could fuck you all up right now. Dude, you brought me that time and like went through a whole boxing practice. And I haven't fucking done cardio in fucking 10 years. And then I had to wrestle Tim Kennedy. for first the first round was he's like we're only doing hand fighting yeah then the second round

take downs roll out i was like i'm done exhaust i'm fucking finished well especially tim like his warm-ups are a fucking hour i'm like let's just get to it dude he'll sometimes he'll do that aerodyne bike he comes to me he goes hey brian like dead serious i get nervous i'm what he goes so i'm not going to lie to you and i could but i'm not going to lie to you i go what he goes today's going to suck for you it's going to suck yeah oh i hated you that day because i'm done after the boxing thing. You never came back. And then, well, just too early in the morning for me. But, uh, fucking after I'm done. And then Brian goes, he's a good wrestler to him. He wrestled in high school. You should roll with him. And Tim is fresh as fuck. Yeah. Still. And I'm

dead. And Brian, you have to see him at the boxing practice. He warms up for the first half hour of the boxing practice. We got a warm frame up. Got to warm the neck. Don't put all your energy into the warm up. We were doing plus and Brian's doing just toe touches like a 70 year old. Smart. Smart. smart i move i i i work the frame it takes a long time to get the engine gone but you also don't want waste the air wagon i'm a volkswagen and i take from the 70s you're vokeswagon and you got to warm that engine up you can't just you know old vogue well the old risty pisty right here still hurts right here a little burning sensation because i was grabbing the bar doing toes to bar without a warm up you understand so you got to bring your whole body up and all that pressure here something went like that

never been better never been never never got better maybe it's never going to never going to and someday you're at osteoporosis age at this point yeah well all my friends who are am i gonna pop yeah well Shane who's 53 who could me in better shape looks at me and goes Shane's 53 yeah he looks on Steiner yeah he looks like holy fuck it's ridiculous oh i gotta send you I'm gonna send you this video of Shane but but like um fucking he that guy'll just look at me and go he goes uh he'll look at me and go that'll hurt for seven months so you're at an age where you'll do one little thing and you'll have an injury for seven months so you got to fucking warm up that shayner there yeah yeah yeah yeah that guy could do whatever he wanted to is is his is is fucking uh

looking at me he's 53 he's like the jake paul of old guys yeah he's that whatever he wants but he chooses to do this crazy he could have that hair and you can't say anything about it hmm uh yeah it's a tough look but it works for him doesn't it it does it does i wouldn't say anything to him plays the guitar I love that guy so much. Yeah, he's so nice. That's my boyfriend. Now I see why Brian likes going there. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you like this, Tiger and Bosti's wrestling coach. He's the head wrestling coach at Lake Travis High. They do the youth program. I see him limping around yesterday. And I can't tell if he has a knee brace or something, but he's limping. Yeah.

Tiger? No, fuck, no. His coach, his head wrestling. He's the head wrestling coach at the high school at Lake Travis. That's the youth. program it's great yeah but um i seem limp around yesterday and it's a limp and i'm like jesus christ what'd you do man he's like man i was wrestling with some of the kids man i i went through i just had bats while my knee it hurt really bad when you get checked in and he goes

i go oh not too bad though you do some stem cells he goes yeah yeah you could um yeah they they told me a complete tear my aco mcl meniscus i was like i went oh i went oh you're done forever basically and he goes yeah you know it might be a long more short recovery i go oh but no it's it's it's over you got to have your legs he's older in me i went he's older than you yeah it's for you're out yeah just give it up yeah it's over yeah there no more wrestling with kids yeah dude finally last night tiger and bosti it clicked dude we i've been working on these snapdowns and a fire uh min's carry and the timing on the double leg we've been working it working it forever.

And I'm just like, maybe wrestling's not fourth. I'll go to wrestling practice. Tell you so big he gets away. He'll just throw kids around. The Bosti's just, you know, he's small. I'm like, all right, whatever. And then last night they're doing open mat, you know? I'm like, come on, man.

And for whatever reason, because we drilled before these practice. It fucking clicked. It fucking clicked. I'm like, look at these motherfuckers. Look at them. I'll show you. I don't like showing because there's other kids in it. It's kind of embarrassing.

T beat this kid's ass so bad. He looks, because his mom goes, the kid's nine, or he's 10. He's older, he's a year-old Mee. Like his mom goes, can we just get the fuck out of here? I'm like, oh my God. I'm the coach. I can't get over here.

It's frustrating. Can we just get the fuck out of here? Oh, my God. That kid's good. That kid's in touch with reality. Hey, this ain't for me. Let's get the fuck out of here. And the coach is like, well, technique.

And the coach is like, well, technique. I'm doing the technique. I'm doing the technique. So is Evo. And he's bigger. So technique doesn't work against big guys. Can we just get the fuck out here? No.

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i want to apologize but what am i supposed to do with that look at him watch him get in watch him get in it gets cold here in texas well that's a little bit extreme isn't it that's the bear from the revenant that's a literally that's an entire buffalo it's so comfy it's so comfy but hey hey so expensive so expensive bro that's a full buffalo dude that's a full buffalo he's wearing an entire buffalo on his uh you know he'll wear shearlings and shit and he has the

fucking hitman leather gloves on bro he doesn't fuck around he nor should he he's a he's a he's a a ranch Texas ranching sion yeah who will fucking tie you in a knot he's my instructor he's so nice to me clubs are intense I love that guy so much looks like Sammy the bowl right there

he's a little bit but way bigger dude I started watching that uh p ditty documentary I had no desire to watch them fans online on IG or dimming because I was asked for recommendations like dude you gotta watch the p ditty thing

I'm like fuck so me and my girl don't have a show right now so we turn on last night it's so good is it it's really good yeah I need a show I need a show It's a four-part series. I'm two parts in it. It goes into why he is the way he is.

And you're like, oh, I get it. And you're like, oh, my God, he's such a terrible person. He's way worse than we thought. Way worse. He's black Epstein. He's black Epstein. Actually worse. Maybe worse.

You know what? We don't know about Epstein, right? Like, we don't really know why, like, Massad. Like, with Did he, they go into how we got to start where he started, what happened when he started, why he's at Because his dad was like a big-time gangster drug dealer and was murdered when he was like four. He worked for Frank Lucas, right? Yeah. So he wanted to be like, you know, he was inspired by his dad.

And he came up in this, you know, his dad had money, made sure the mom and him were good. So he went to a private school, clearly a gay man, but went to a private school. And then even back, and then he was like trying to just get his foot in the door with music, just trying to get. And he wanted to be a star, but he didn't have any talent. So he's trying to get, like, get his foot in the door. He gets foot in the door, and he decides to throw like this big ass celebrity basketball game in Harlem, like the biggest ever, $12 tickets. And he really didn't organize too well. And nine people got trampled to death.

And he took no accountability, nothing. But that's how he got famous. That put him on the map because he's all over New York. So he was like, oh, shit, that's how you do this. And then they go into how Tupac and Biggie were like really close. They wanted to work together. Tupac didn't fuck with Diddy And Diddy kept trying to like

Get him to do business with him He's like I'm good man But he just loved Biggie Like Biggie opened up for him He took Biggie on the road He loved him He's such a talent And so

Diddy was jealous of the relationship Dude it gets You're like oh this is why he's piece shit They have this girl where Again he wasn't a talent At the time he's a no name guy And he just wanted this Girl to do this like rap video

He's in it But again he's just a star Small role in it And then she's like yeah They took me home home that night and rape me, like gave me drugs. And she filed a lawsuit against them. And I was like, eh, who knows? You know, the bitches be crazy. But then she's like, oh, can I read you something? My mom who passed away, because this happened like, yeah, I don't know, 30 years ago. She was like,

this is a letter from my mother to his parents. Damn. The night it happened. She reads it. You're like, oh, my God. Bro. When you see what he did to Cassie, I believe everything. Look, look, look. But no, he has his business partner on there who was like, um, it, so after those nine people got trampled his mom who was like you know she did everything for him she was like i don't know if this is the move coming trying to get into the music industry and his partner in his best friend of the time we started deaf jam i'm sorry bad boy with him uh he's like his mom was like we need to get out of here and figure something else out and he goes he slapped and said shut up bitch he's like he always hit women so so you know um i never told anybody this story but patty jenkins

who is um wonder woman yeah big director she used to work on she used to work on She was a second AC and then a first AC on film. So she would pull focus, right? She worked for years in doing the grunt work, you know, doing helping, being an assistant to the DP, traveling, working her ass off. She'd worked 16-hour days and stuff. And she'd worked on Diddy. She worked on a number of Diddy.

Projects? Yeah, with Hype Williams. Now, Diddy would produce and walk around with a megaphone and Hype Williams would direct. and Hype Williams is a really cool special talented dude okay and so hype would do all the work and conceive of everything and stuff and Patty would work on a Hype Williams thing and Diddy would walk around with his fucking you know and I never forgot this it was a it was a thing in passing but all of a sudden when the video would come out on MTV it said directed by Sean Puffy Combs Puffy Combs

and so Patty saw hype at a party and she goes hype you directed that and hype went hype looked and goes ah man I can't even I can't even and he just that's all I did just threw his hands up he went yeah

it was kind of like a don't get me started thing and he kind of walked away and I never forgot that story this is way before any of this was I heard that story I don't know 20 years ago he was a real gangster but I never forgot it I clocked it I clocked it because that's taking something that doesn't belong to. Oh, but that's what they're saying on the, on the, again, I'm only two parts in.

But like the guy, like the guy who starred bad boy, these other guys, his dad, the guys he looked up to in Harlem who were actual gangsters, they're like, did he, his thing is he's not a gangster. So he wants to be that so bad, but he's a paper gangster. Like he's not the one like with Tupac or Biggie. He's not the one pulling the gun. He's making the moves behind the scene. The Biggie thing is actually, it's. In retrospect is so funny, and people have been putting out the video online

because, like, the fact that he had a part of the Biggie killing and danced about it on, there's a video. Yeah, like, imagine your best friend, you just got your best friend killed, and then you're doing a dance off after he's dancing. Huge event, too. He's not a good guy, man. Have you seen the pictures of him in prison? No.

Oh, my God. Oh, this is what you like on the dock. Let me see a picture. So he decided to hire a film crew to follow him as he's being prosecuted, like trying to beat the... Did he? Yeah. And so when they evaded all the shit, they took all the video.

And I think 50 cent about the rights to it because he's the one that produced it. Dude, they show him. That's his new girlfriend. Holy shit. That dude is all about it. No, but it was, uh, it was AI. Like a lot of people thought it was real. Oh, there's, yeah.

So there's this, yeah, they're all like holding him. They're all like lovey-d-dove. Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude, but they, they, they. You should the baby oil in the background? Dude, they have him because he decided to hire a film crew while he's going through it before trial, talking to his lawyers. He's like, no, the internet is doing this.

You guys are losing. He's like yelling at his lawyer. And you can tell how, like, fucking gangster is when it comes to business. But there's a moment where he's sitting there because the lawyer's like, it's not good. Like, we're in some trouble, man. Like, you could be doing, looking at some time. And he's just sitting there and like his kids are there.

And you just see. I looked at Joanne. I'm like, dude, look at the stress on that man's face. You just see him like, well, what are we going to? You're looking at, you're looking at life in prison. He yells at the lawyer. He's like, y'all are the professional, and you're getting beat by fucking online trolls. And he's like tearing into him.

He's like, this is what we're going to do. He's like, this is what we're going to do. He's like, I pay you. This is what we're going to do. You and you professionals, I hired all six, you motherfuckers. You're going to come over the plan. And tomorrow, I want a solution to this problem. He hangs up the phone.

And he looks at one of the kids and goes, what are we going to? to do and then there's like five minutes of silence you see him just like and you're like oh they're just the weight of it dude you know i have a charges are bullshit like i was trying to tell my wife i'm like listen remember making a murderer or the Jeffrey Dahmer series or even the fucking uh the one that they just did with Ed Gein yeah like there's a narrative where like now people are feeling sorry for Jeffrey Dahmer he did a dude's brain um for for for Ed Gein it's like that guy murdered people and Like, man, these poor guys, the making murder, that guy's innocent. We're clearly guilty as fuck if you talk to anybody outside of fucking Netflix.

So even with a Diddy documentary, and it's 50 cent and fucking hates P. Diddy, there's a narrative, like, don't get wrong, terrible human being. Yeah. Horrible human being. But when you look at what he's actually being accused of, like, wait, hold on. So he's doing, granted, he got time served, but he's doing 30 months or whatever was 50 months because he had sex with hired prostitutes

that's the charges what happened to the RICO what about invading both his homes and taking his children out of the home what were we looking for them they tore down that wall like where's the and think about what's stuck think about what he got accused of about blowing up

kid cut his car murder murder a couple of murders all this stuff they're all talking about all that stuff where's all the evidence what about all the video that's with all the baby oil And filming all the celebrities and Obama. Where's all that? Where's all that stuff?

Oh, it's not real. So the only thing about the only thing they got him on. And now think about this, how many people in Hollywood in professional sports would serve prison time for hiring a prostitute? How many? How many politicians? Oh, my God.

How many politicians? So I told my wife, I'm like, don't even wrong. Complete piece of shit. Bad dude. Yeah. But when you step outside the box and you go, well, hold on. What exactly he is for? Because we were waiting for.

we were waiting when you when the feds come in with a battering ram tank and knock down walls in your house and then raid your house they usually just don't do that for the fuck yeah you're like something's up here and then you guys had nothing like you guys tore up a man's house had all that baby oil did all that stuff and and like actually ended up having nothing like what about all the evidence where's the video those guys that raid it I have a friend who knows the yeah one of the I know guys yeah and he was like dude yeah there's bad stuff in there yeah guess what guess there was nothing where where nothing where are the videos with all the celebrities and all that all that's not to play conspiracy or did they find a bunch that stuff it compromises a lot of

politicians it's not how the feds work it's not how the feds operate that way yeah probably not the FBI doesn't operate that way they don't operate that way they don't operate that way how the fuck you're going to do that well the epstein that there's a reason why those lists it doesn't no no that's a different thing when you don't know about the Epstein thing because we had a whole argument about that. Again, again, I do know about the Epstein. I think if there's a list. I do know about the Epstein.

No, no, the thing that people are always missing with Epstein is in 2008, he was tipped off to the fact that they were coming into his place. So he got rid of it. Yeah. Especially his Mossad. Yes. They got rid of it all. It all went away.

You don't think those guys could get rid of all of it. He got tipped off. There are two things that happened. Number one, he got tipped off. before they came to do the raid. I wonder if they got rid of all the computers. Number two. Do you think he's that dumb?

Yeah. Number two, when you do a plea deal like that, the way you do, guess what happens? The feds don't take any evidence. All the evidence, all the gathering of the evidence stops. It all stops. That's part of the plead. Yeah. That's why the lawyers, because when you do that, when you cop a plea and you don't tell the victims,

you can't do that. That's why the lawyers never forgot that and brought the case back up in 2006. What was the waters like on St. James Island? Wait, number two. Number two, number two, all you conspiracy theories, all you conspiracies. What were the beaches like over there? Yeah, yeah. All you guys who like believe that he, he got killed in jail.

This is the other thing I love. So they waited until he was, they waited until he was in jail. They waited till he was in jail with all that stuff when they didn't kill him when he was in his house and he was free. Well, because they was when he gets. He wasn't charged. Yeah, he was in charge and they didn't want him to squeal. Oh, so they had eight years. Is it not weird?

Right. You've been to the island. His cellmate. The missing footage. I'm, I think, hold on, B. Before we argue, I'm kind of on your, I'm like, dude, come on, all this shit. But it is okay to go. Wait, hold on.

His cellmate with his 2, 295 pounds, 6% steroid, hell's angel character. Sure. You put him in with him. There's three minutes of missing video when he does die. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck. And then the, and then the, and then the guard goes, I just fell asleep. sleep.

A little sketchy. That's when I go, come on, man. All of that sketchy, all that sketchy, it'll never, that just adds to the-conspiracy will never go away. There was a conspiracy. You want to admit, it is a little sketchy that one of the most high security, and I know a lot of corrections officers, because my family's RCOs in New York. Yeah.

One of the most high-tech, high-security. It's not high-tech, but yeah. In comparison to Rikers Island, in comparison to- It's high-tech for that area. What I'm saying is- Because they have some of the most high-profile people, and then the tape went out around the time when happened. That's a little weird. The conspiracy about Epstein...

Admit that's weird. It's very weird. Okay. Thank you. The conspiracy of Epstein is real in terms of this. This dude was dead to rights, 40 witnesses in 2008. This guy was guilty of having sex with underage girls. They knew he was guilty, okay?

And the conspiracy here was he belongs to intelligence, and we're going to kill this thing. and by the way he's going to have his own wing he's going to be able to leave during the day all of this thing that's how powerful and we don't know anybody we don't have any evidence as to why he was protected so you don't think so there's any chance that this guy who has the secrets the power the secrets to all these people celebrities yeah politicians who have gone to this island who actually have done whatever to underage kids you don't think they're my be a couple of people that might, we need to get rid of this fucking guy. A hundred percent.

What I'm saying is this. And then the cameras go out when it happens. This is fucking crazy. This is a fucking mis- This is a Scooby-Doo mystery. No, it's not. If this was Mr. Impossible, I'm like, come on the nose. I think the truth is so unsexy all the time.

If you watch a movie where this happened, you'd shut off and go, this is dumb. That would never happen in real life. If I wrote that script, probably like, buddy. No one's ever going to believe. I just think the truth is never as sexy as you want it to be. Oh, I disagree. With him, I think it's pretty sexy. No.

And then, dude, when you go into his relationship with a guy from Abercrombie, that guy's roaming the earth freely. He had $4 billion and Jeff Fierberstein had full control of his entire estate. No. The guy. Why isn't anybody questioning him? They are. They're not.

You know what he said? He's out right now. I know. You know what he said. Brian's Massad. Yeah. Wexler said, he goes, he was a. bad guy and that was it. Listen, listen, Jeffrey Epstein had a hood Barack in disguise at his place.

Of course. Look, there's no doubt in my mind that this guy was working for the Israelis. Well, he, it's not, it's actually, if he wasn't, please explain why the prime minister, the ex-prime minister. Don't make that face. Don't do that face. Hey, you, and you don't think what I'm saying. Hey, B, but take America out of it. You don't think the Israelis, if they're like this dude has so much shit on us they would have fucking gotten rid of him so fast that's what i'm saying so so you're agreeing but they didn't have to no what i'm saying is this he just what i'm just he's looking for another plea deal the the i love how he was dead to right yeah the he just pulled a sweet move no just listen listen to what i'm saying this is a nice

thing the first nice thing he's ever done listen to what i'm saying listen to what i'm saying the masad uh got rid of all that evidence there was clearly some kind of of a honey pot. There was some kind of a honey pot going on. There was some kind of a honey pot going on on the fucking island. Okay. Uh, an intelligence apparatus like Mossad kind of knows how to get rid of evidence and people. There's no list. There's no evidence. And the very wealthy people who were probably involved, I wonder if they paid those girls off or paid off their lawyers. But you, you don't think, you don't think, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You don't think Epstein would move in a certain way where he wouldn't give them all the evidence. You don't, he's

have to be a pretty smart guy of course harm all those people or you don't think he was like here's this uh hey fuck faces i also have this over here if i die you know you don't think you play games like that well i think what happened also our politicians that said we're going to release that list so there is a list and they did say there was no no no pan bonnie said there's a list they said there's a list no so so so there we knew legit we knew and then every time it almost comes out aliens no there's video of aliens i don't find that every time no no there There's a list of what? So the obscene files have been released, right?

No. No. Just Lane Maxwell is about to be released. What you're going to get is a bunch of names that were on that plane, right? No, you're talking about. You're talking about the plane. That's a totally different story. So what do you think is the, what list are you talking about?

Of the people have been to the island. And there is a list that has been admitted. We know that a lot of people. No, the plane log and the island list is different. The plane log, like, RFK was on it. Like, he used his plane all the time. The fly to, like, New Jersey. We know a lot of people were at that island.

we know a lot of people were at that island who prince trump andrew trump was there yeah clinton he was on there clinton was there more times than that so was so was stephen hawking like but that's only because a couple names have been released from the actual list what's that we know that just only a few names have been actually yeah but guys again excuse me what are you going to find you went to the island and what is that going to do well oh hey you're at the island mean what is that going to do that doesn't mean i think what if they weren't there just for a layover yeah they were chelsea handler was on that plane she doesn't i can promise she doesn't no no no plane's different plane's different no it's not yeah it is no they didn't they didn't they went to the island yeah but

we know a lot of these people went to the island it's you're not going to you know what he is prove anything no fun no fun i know it's no fun and a massad agent and he went to the island and he wants the bliss buried because he's been to the island you don't want it to get out that's that's probably true it's probably true um i i just think that all the evidence is gone that's what i think and i don't think they had to kill him i think the guy killed himself because he was never getting that i think that's this bad take i think i i think someone killed him and all good you also look as long he's dead you also look suspiciously like him i do look a little bit like him have you seen that video that i sent you where someone edited on reddit your face and epstein's face no oh it's so good it's so good

i sent it to you left you did how how old was epstein he was probably in his 60s when he died that old i think so yeah he was like 65 but he was crushing it for like most dude he died with 500 million dollars in the bank they don't know how he made his money 66 dude they don't know how he made his fucking money let's take a little break here from town with the boys one touchdown can change everything the crowd the momentum the game itself it never gets old feel the same rush with drafting sports book an official sports betting partner the nfl Hurry. Listen up. Draft King Sportsbook is now live in the ShowMe State. That's fun. Here's the best part. New customers, you bet five, and if your bet wins, you get 200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the drafting sportsbook app. Use the code Fighter. That's code Fighter. Bet five bucks and get 200 in bonus bets if your bet wins. In partnership with draft kings, the crown is yours. Gambling problem, call 1-800 gambler. In New York, call 8778-8-8-Hop-N-Y or text Hope-N-Y 467-369-369. In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling called 888-7-7 or visit CCP. Please play responsibly. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino when resort in Kansas. Pass-through of per-wager tax may apply in Illinois. Twenty-one and over. Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction, void in Ontario. Restrictions apply. Bet must win to receive bonus bets which expire in seven days. Minimum odds required. Four additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see D.D.N.N.

G.com slash audio limited time offer they don't know how he made his money and even the house right they're like yeah they gave it to him like wait what the mystery didn't he have one of the nicest houses no i'm pretty sure you had the nice house in new york the conspiracy he bought it for a dollar on beach island's insane the one in new york the mystery yeah the mystery about it is like how the fuck did he get all that money the mystery is he was laundering money for the most powerful people in the world all of it's a mystery and we don't know who was all in the island who was fucking kids Here's the other thing. I think fucking, like, underage kids is the extreme.

I think there was some underage girls. The majority of it was just hot chicks that attracted a ton of powerful people. And then he would get the ones he needed with like, you thought she was 18? Ha, ha, ha, 17. This is why it'll never die. So you've also been to the. Yeah. I have.

And it's the AC son. This is why it'll never die. And they didn't have my diet coats. It'll never die. because he got away with murder. He got away with everything. And we'll never know. No, it would die if they release it.

It's like JFK. It will never fucking die. Yeah, but they released the JFK files. They were all like, no, they kept 12 pages of it from us. And Trump says he can't release for the public. So you know what? The JFK one, so, hey, Bubba.

Yeah. That's not getting, JFK is so easy to figure out. Or are we just a lone communist. It can't want me. It's crazy. Remember we sat with the Navy seal and he said that that's wrong. my buddy who's killed a lot of people my buddy has sniked a lot of people he was like

your head wouldn't do that i've done that i was like okay you might know yeah anybody who knows anything about ballistic that's i was going to say anyone that's actually seen warfare is like no no that's well my buddy that's my buddy like promise like it's he killed a lot of people from a distance when you're in dev crew you know people that know people that know their shit are like you know jfk's an easy one like i won't even entertain it I'm like, I'm with you, man. Yeah. That's the only subject it seems like Brian needs cranes as a living when you talk about JFK.

Oh, the best one to me is like. Yeah, but where is the evidence? We have all the, they're 12 pages, I guess. Okay. Like, so with Epstein, like they were all talking about all that. Hey, B, literally the president of the United States, Donald Trump himself, who's a wild boy, goes, we're releasing this. I can't release the other 12 because it would cause create, it would create straight fucking chaos in America. And now whenever it's brought up, he gets all weird.

be intelligence information that's you know i don't know but at the end of the day that does nothing for you at the end of the day like i think that when they release these things we're all waiting for the smoking gun and we're still back we're like you know i don't because it's all government controlled yeah but hey with every subject we're like yeah okay but if it's super if it's super secret i think that they i don't think it's anywhere like if it's super secret do they write it down is it a is it a is it a like they've been doing it forever mk ultra like this is my my right that down? This is why you would write it down. If you're using it as a way to entrap politicians and get them to pretty much extort them, then yeah. You'd have, you'd have video. Like with the

Epstein thing, you'd have video, right? Of them, somebody's with an underage girl, right? One of the, one of the things about the FBI is when you have video like that, okay, you're not allowed to release that. Not without the victims. So you don't think there's a list of names of all the footage of all the people they have? Yeah, but you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to do that without the victim's consent. So you're you are not allowed. The FBI is not allowed to say here's a video with this underage girl. No one wants to see the video. We just want to see the list of the names. But that if if if that victim doesn't want you to know that, guys tomato, they can't do it. We're going in circles here. He's right. Mm-hmm. You're in circles.

He's right. What was the beaches like? Do you know, he was kind of drunk, but also they looked at buying it. What? Yeah, looked at buying it and doing like shows out of there. Joe was going to do a mothership out there? I think he was going to do a podcast out of there. And then people were like, hey man, that's a really bad idea. And he was like, he was half joking, you know? It was like, we were the weirdest thing about buying that thing.

And it's like, no, man. No, don't do that. It is an island, right? Where is it anyway? Excuse me? It's gorgeous. Because whenever I went there, they would put a bag over my head. Dude, think about it.

He had how much money and his house? Like, that, don't get me wrong. It's haunted as fuck and I wouldn't want to live there. but as far as like leisure and in scenery there's a bunch of tic-tokers there's ticoters that actually snuck onto the island yeah they get there it's they rents in a boat and they fucking went bring it up jen it's fucking awesome it looks crazy well i mean by the way i mean if any of us had been invited back then before you knew things and it's like hey there's a bunch of pros on an island here's a pride want to come hang out with stephen hawking everybody's

going to be like all right i'll go there yeah he's got he's got yes you're some YouTubers film shit there but if you so they just got on the island yeah it's illegal but it's in a gorgeous area too dude

like yeah he's not fucking bullshit who's island who's it belonged to uh somebody bought it right and they're redoing it do you reach your hands so you saw once where you said someone you

have been convicted of a crime just show them sneaking on. You could see out. What was the... No, like, further down. Yeah, where it shows an island. So what we're doing? Chin's all right here. No, not the hotel room.

Look for water. There we go. That'd be creepy to be there, huh? That'd be so creepy. I'd love to go and do a ghost hunt. it's gorgeous man yeah pretty windy i mean it's ellen to genesis's backdrop on her show is that in the virgin islands is that where it is heavy on the virgin um heavy on the virgin uh where is it at chin

Jesus Christi yeah I'm sorry man that's so funny that's so funny ghost show and go there didn't you do a ghost show I was on ghost adventures that's the dude that dresses in Ed Hardy shirts and does his hair you're talking about Zach that's my boy is love him yeah yeah

yeah he's one of us version I used to go ghost on it as when we were teenagers because we saw that show yeah he's the best it's fucking me my wife love it we want to do something like that so Jeffrey upston in the island known as little St. James great St. James well which one is it? About 78 acres

wow it's a lot of wheelchair room for mr hawkins now does he own the whole island yeah yeah he well it says islands are privately owned and only accessible by private helicopter or by youtubeers uh in 2023 YouTubers YouTubers with a positive attitude uh in 2023 both islands were sold to a private investor you hell yeah private oh no Stephen deckoff for 60 million i just say it like that jack off who plans develop them no hey in the luxury resort? Who's going to that thing?

Bill Clinton. People go. They won't give a fuck. You make that place nice? I mean, you know, but I don't know. Do you want to be on a small island in the middle of like, what's there to do? Depends how lit it is. What's there to do besides fuck?

Well, that's like, yeah. Well, that's like, Jeffrey's like, that's what I'm saying. Like, what else we're going to do out here, man? I mean, you know. And a couple of youngsters get in. Now I'm the bad guy. Yeah, also the idea is that you get, he probably got those girls out there. on an island, there's nowhere to go.

Mm-hmm. Oh, no. Yeah. Like, I'm sure, listen, a lot of horrible shit happened there. I bet a lot of them had an awesome time. It was a party. Except for the one that had to suck off Stephen Hawkins.

There was a lot of fucking going on. I bet those three girls are there and they're like, okay, who's taking Bill? I'll take Bill. Right, right, right. I think there was a lot. Who's taking Prince. I think a lot of money exchanged hands.

I'll take Prince Henry. Fuck, Janine. See how long. He's like, See how long the flight from New York to little St. James or to to the Virgin Islands and see how far it takes from Miami to, to Miami to take from Miami to find out of his flight. Yeah, I want to see how far is Miami, New York to St. Thomas and Miami to St. Thomas. Also, Stephen Hawking, a player for a guy who had nobody. The fact that he cheated on his wife.

Amazing. She's like, he's shitting me? Could you imagine getting cheated on? and you're like you of all people are you shitting me that's a long way all the shit i've done you can't even talk i literally wipe your ass it's crazy and she left him out in the sun she got mad and left him out in the sun to die you know that are you kidding yeah she left him out in the sun she was so mad at him that she i didn't get that mad at a guy that's the start of a pickle rick episode yeah she left him the fucking pickle she tried to fucking kill him with son that's awful

damn it's not close it's not 100 miles It's not close at all. Wait, flight time direct is two hours of 45 minutes. That's a long time. Are there any conspiracies that you believe? I believe the Jeff Repsstein conspiracy. Not that whether he,

I think they would have killed him beforehand. And I don't think it's far-fetched to believe that he killed himself because what, well, he, it was over, game over. So do you believe Helen Keller was legit? Let's take a little break here. Listen, bros out there. The problem's common.

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get can you can you pull up her do you know much about helen keller like the backstory of it no i don't i mean now hold on before he before he answers do you think george washington actually chopped down an apple tree well that we have video of and it wasn't helen how's her wiki type in helen keller accomplishments was it george washington or abling than i chopped down an apple tree or either way it's a cherry tree drop down a cherry no apple tree so let's pull up some of her things she's called. So Helen Keller is basically... So Helen Keller wrote 14 books.

You're buying it? I don't know. The more you look into it, it gets dicey, dude. She can't hear, can't talk, wrote a book. Yeah. How? That's the whole point of the miracle worker. I mean, I believe that people can do things like that.

Okay. College graduate? Yeah, where they can figure things out just because you're blind and blind. travel the world as a speaker not buying that not buying that yeah why do you not believe i i think a little bit of it be is it's a little bit of folklore and it is is myth right she's a myth yeah but what are you saying are you a ticot boy who's like listening to people say it's all lies that she didn't exist you mean educated first of all you mean educated just so you know i you get a lot

of information i help you run your social media and all your fucking reels are AI black jack dudes and AI crazy information and you think that they're real people so don't fucking start with me well I do I do like black guys but here's the thing though you get a lot of your information off this are you saying that this is all bullshit because I don't think that Helen Keller I don't think any of it's real what do you mean I think she was a real person me too and all of it's a scam yeah it's a propaganda because I don't believe that someone who's deaf and blind was able to do any of these things. But it's inspired.

But listen, I don't think, but I don't think it's a bad thing. I can get inspired a lot of people. She's got a great, she did more with no eyes and ears. People who don't have eyes or ears can do things. I mean, you can figure as a human being. Yes, as a human being. Both? Yes.

As a human being, you can figure those things out. Hey, Chin, look up how many blind deaf people graduated from college. How many? Well, look, congenitally, you have to say congenitally blind, like, you know. But the idea that, you know. So she's never heard anybody saying anything. never seen anything. She has for it then.

I don't know. I think people can figure it out. If you're brilliant, I think you can figure things out. But, I mean, I wrote books. This guy believes everything. She probably learned, and I'm the TikTok boy.

She learned how to communicate. There's been too much written about her and too many people that knew her to say that it's all a scam. It's been like, what do you, why do you think? Well, I don't think it's a scam. Well, you think so you think all the books she wrote or somebody else wrote. Oh, yeah.

That's so much more believable. It might be. It might be. but these things are possible. Human beings can do pretty amazing things. One of the reasons you know her name is because she did kind of what's considered the impossible. Well, she did the impossible.

Do you think that Einstein came up with the notion that light bends with gravity or that came up with the theory of relativity? No, he wasn't deaf and blind. Doesn't matter. Do you think that's possible? If he was deaf and blind. But he may as well been deaf and blind

because quantum physics is not something you can see and certainly not something you can hear. It's not even something you can measure. necessarily so what about that that has nothing to do with the deaf and blind girl human beings can do incredible things without having to see them or hear them math is basically that so when somebody has an amazing brain you can do some stuff i don't know all our stats seem bullshit to me you don't know anything about like you can question a bit hey b you know what it is they'll be it's okay to question it now now that we have more information resources you can go all right you know like

Babe Ruth stats When you Growing up Babe Ruth The all time great Right Yeah He'll get stats like

Oh man Some of that's kind of fucking bullshit Now a lot of it He was still One of the greatest All time But you knew

They had to throw Certain pitches to him Yeah but she was Famous in her lifetime Like Helen Keller So why was she famous In her lifetime Like did somebody say

Let's just take this deaf and dumb blind person who's in a zombie And Did you just call a dumb Persona? She was known as Deaf dumb and blind

Which is You call her a zombie Jesus, take it easy. You called her a zombie. Well, she couldn't speak, right? I know, but don't call her a zombie. She's a fucking, No, but I'm saying

Are you saying that somebody decided to create a persona around her? What evidence is that? Talking about a plant? What evidence do you? But be, they do that all the time now. There's plants, there's all sorts of shit. No, she was famous in her life.

She was the first influencer. I'm telling you. She was famous in her lifetime. What are you talking about? She wouldn't make bank on Only fans now. Yeah. Look at it. Profoundly deaf, profoundly blind.

yeah and say people some people doubt it today her communication relied on tactical sign language finger spelling and later braille not to vision hearing yeah that that's totally possible she had extensive daily work with sullivan and other teachers who documented all of this thousands of people met her in person her abilities and disabilities were directly observed is this google chin this child jeb medical records and eyewitness accounts from but i've been i knew about this when i was a kid of course like this is not all did you're just you You don't keep a myth going. Yeah, because you believe everything you hear.

Why would you keep a myth going? Well, we did about Columbus. Well, they do it all the time. She was famous. What about Columbus? She was famous during her lifetime. Yeah, but we learned about Columbus. So she graduated from Radcliffe.

Don't talk about Columbus, right? You like you? He's a good Italian American. Take it easy. There's deaf and blind. No legitimate historical evidence that Helen Cull was faking. Yeah, historians aren't fool, dude. I hate to tell you, you're not.

not the one who knows. I'm going to be the one that takes her down. Yeah, yeah. Nick Simmons. Nick Simmons takes her down. Yeah, she lived too long. She was too famous through her life. I mean, you know, she communicates.

I think it's okay to question it. As long as you don't die in the hill, like, no, she could actually see 2020. Yeah, it's okay to question it when you have some evidence. You don't have any evidence. Or to look into it. Well, that's the hard part about it. I think it's dumb people that should buy into it right away. I think it's insane to listen to it.

Nobody buys it into it right away. They buy into it because of the overwhelming evidence. What was it? No, the majority of people buy into it over repetition, being repeated in class. Well, it's kind of a tough thing about a conspiracy theory, right? Because people are actively trying, if it is real, people are actively trying to keep it a secret. It's not like, let's put this out there and let's hope they believe it. I just think people love conspiracies because it's just so much fun.

And the truth. I think it's double. I think there's that. but I also think people have more resources to more resources. Okay. There are dumb conspiracy theorists. Don't get me wrong. But it's also very dumb to be like,

I believe everything that I hear. Especially in school. Can I give you an example? So you know that guy, O's Perlman, that guy who can read minds? Oz. He's incredible.

Oz. I think he goes by O's, but Oz. Like, have you seen what he can do? Yeah, it's all fake. Magic? Yeah, it's unbelievable. Like, but it's unbelievable. Yeah, he's the one who,

Jay bout fucking Rogan's pin number on his debt. But then when you get like maybe you get a little insight into how he does it, you know what happens? You go like this. Oh.

Oh. Right? It's like it's kind of ruins the trick for you a little bit. No, but it's always thrown the trick. Where are you going? Whenever I saw him, I go.

Okay. Yeah, I'm going with, again, the truth behind these things that people obsess over. I bet is a lot less sexy. I don't think there's, a cabal of powerful men who are conspiring i think it's i think it's just usually it's usually ackham's razor man we're just talking about helen keller here i know it's got talking about fucking

occum's razor cabals yeah do you know ockham's razor you know what that is yeah least what is it uh you know it's always like just go with pass shan do you think helen keller was really blind i think she's just fine yeah she's always been helen I don't think that was the question. Jim's always been a Helen Keller, denier. Hey, kid. Never really thought about it, man. No.

You don't? But then, no, a lot of people think, Steve, you don't think about Helen Keller? No, I don't.

But Stevie Wonder, there's a lot of people that says, like, he really can't. And there's a video of him being like, like, also, what a waste of court side seats at the next game.

Oh, no, he's always front. What do you want to go up there to hear squeaks? Why are you getting the seat? Yeah. Yeah, there's that rumor where people think Steve Warner can see.

Well, If I met him and I've seen the play and I've been like, he's definitely blind. Well, yeah, you can be fooled easily. But didn't he beat the shit out of some guy in a street fight? Stevie Wonder. Hey, would you guys shut the fuck? Both of you shut the fuck up about Stevie Wonder street fight. Are you serious?

Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. There's a story about there. Steve Wonder's been blind since he was a kid. No, I got shit on TikTok because I did a, I did a stupid video, a stitch where someone was like, if you could beat any celebrity. Oh, I saw that. I thought was funny.

And you get to keep their money, Stevie Wonder. and everyone's like, dude, you don't want to focus, Stevie Wonder. Do you know what bothers me about conspiracy theories when you talk about this shit? You know what bothers me? You know why I get mad about it? I don't know, but it's not good for podcast. No, but because people, like the revisionist history, it's really easy to revise history and to wash over really bad things that happened.

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All the thrills. All for free. Pluto TV, stream now. Hey, never. Ray Parker Jr. says a drummer challenged Stevie Wondered to a battle, blindfolded. Stevie was ripped back then and won without missing once. When I got in the band, man, I remember he got...

Well, yeah, you're on his turd. That's a great. Look at the irony. He's only a few years old. You're on his fucking home feet. And the drummer got an attitude and said, man, I'm tired of Steve. Put a blindfold on me.

I'm going to be. This is not a good idea. And we put the blindfold on the drummer, and they're going to do good. And you should have seen the guy The guy is doing like this He's trying to find Stevie And every time he went

Bam I mean it was like Just I mean straight We just went on for a couple of minutes And we threw the towel You're like You gotta stop Stevie

Oh yeah I don't think he got one Steve At some point I took off the blind You gotta You gotta try to fight Find the guy

Who's been blind his whole life He can read your energy If he can hear you See here's the wind going by Yeah you're not He knows where you are The drumbers is a real dumb ass Just whip his ass

And see Bro, think about that. You've got to fight a guy who's been blind his whole life. He knows exactly where you are. He's reading the care. But he's definitely have a better shot than you are. He's like Helen Keller. Yeah.

Now, do we believe that story? Probably not. And that's okay. I like that story. See, I want to believe that story. Because that's a kung fu story. So that's a kung fu story. Yeah, see, we all want to believe that story.

I'm sick of this, dude, man. Get the blindfold. Like, what? Get the blindfold. Obviously, you can't believe all conspiracies, right? No. Like, there's some dumb. like earth being flat.

Yeah. Retarded. Yeah. Retarded. I don't have you ever gone down flatter at TikTok. They're dumb people. Yeah. Like they don't think,

they don't think you actually go to Alaska if you take an Alaska trip. They think you go to Finland. No, I've been to Alaska. Yeah. It's great. Are you sure?

It says Alaska. Yeah. Really, when you're flying in, it's not just actors from Finland. That's such a colossal. And the beers are actors too. Yeah. I just think that I think

conspiracies exist. I just think it's really hard to pull them off. I think, I think, like, people are conspiratorial, but it's hard. Like, the mafia is a conspiracy, right? We'll get together. We're going to figure out a way to fuck, you know, make money illegally, keep your mouth shut. Let's do this. Yeah, you get away with some things and you get caught. Depends. Every time this seems to be a conspiracy in the U.S. government, the Iran-Contra thing gets blown wide open. You know, that was a conspiracy straight up. And some people got away with it, but at the end of the day, a lot of people didn't. So, I don't know. You know, you know,

I think one of the things about Washington, they always say, is the hardest thing in Washington do is to keep a secret because everybody's got an agenda and everybody wants to fuck everybody else. The saying in Washington, you want a friend, buy a dog. Everybody's fucks with you. I was a big conspiracy theorist. And so I realized pretty much what you're saying. There's certain ones I still do believe. But then like you try and go to use anything that's government run, USPS or the DMV. And you're like, oh, it's, these are fucking morons. But have you ever been, look at us in this room, we're all friends, and we disagree on shit all the time. I promise you in the elite circles, everybody disagrees with each other.

It's like, people don't agree. Like, you've got your opinion. But disagreeing is okay, but I'm, but I don't think it's that hard to keep a big secret. I don't, especially, especially there. You know. Area 51's been kept a pretty good secret for it. You know that we know some pretty, we know a lot of people. and people chatter don't they chat but it within the same circle though yeah but you're not you're not

you're not really all the information you're not you're not telling the guy that you just have lunch with or dinner with like you had dinner last night with phil heath that's our boy but he's not in the inner circle you're not telling the deep dark secrets we know about certain people because they're also the shit that could take some people that you're not sharing that with him you know how smart never no they're smart because it affect the bottom dollar they're very smart people right I don't know actually what you're talking about right now I'm trying to get super I know I'm like I'm like what sequence

I'm bottom down I was like I like where you're going I was like hold on I like where you're going I like where you're going but hear me out so you know a lot of these people right yeah do you feel like they would tell you everything the Brian especially a guy who his his job is to talk on the internet they're going to go all right we should be very yeah I do know things I do know certain things and I keep it close to the vest, right? So you know certain things because those people I know and I don't want to compromise them. So sometimes you'll know something that's, you'll know something

that goes on that you shouldn't know if somebody got drunk and talked. Yeah. But there's a level that they could tell you. Like, let me an example. Like, like, we know there's a certain person who's gay and they're super famous. And like, it's a comedian, the comedian one? No, no, no. He's not a comedian. But we just know that. I told you this. Yeah, but I'm saying, then I heard it from somebody else who knows but not my story do you want how much of a chatty kathy people talk and now i'm like oh you know that too oh you know yeah but the guy got it from's in the circle and he's also very elite right but i know another guy it's not getting to the masses yeah it's kind of it now it's kind of getting a little not really no no no no no no if you walk up the average person they're like what the fuck all i'm saying is

it it's like you realize that a lot of people know because i'm a chatty kathy if i hear that i'm a chatty catty. I'm only going to tell very, very elite people. And then one elite person I told goes, he goes, I'm telling everybody. I go, what's crazy you say, because I am not an elite person and I know exactly what you're talking about. He goes, don't tell anybody. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's all like this. There's so many things that go on. Like, they always say, like, if you're going to have, like, in the neighborhood, if he's going to have an affair. For the people watching, just so they know, they would never guess this. And it is such a famous person.

And that's crazy? Such a famous person. And the story is so gay. I couldn't wait to tell Brian. You're not going to believe. Oh, man. Yeah, we had to take about a half hour. I was like, it's a fun.

I was living in South Florida, and I had to, when he first said, I pulled my car over. I went, get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it. It's what it is. And, you know, my buddy Gerard was saying something.

He goes, One of the things about podcasts is that some people in the public eye can't do a podcast because they can't talk for an hour. But also, the facade has to come down. Yeah, but, yeah, correct. You definitely can't talk for three hours. Kamala. The facade comes down. But then also, like, like our gossip is different than government gossip, where if we said who that story is and what it is, okay, it might pick up on TMZ.

we're not going to we're not giving up our livelihood we're not we're not going to be sacrificed he's also not going to come up from behind you with a gun and pop you in that actually there's no recourse no but but what i'm saying would be hilarious if after the pod no what i'm saying is no dude what what i'm saying is that people in government fuck each other because like even in the inner circle they're like i don't like you sitting like that while you talk like that i'm going to talk to the i'm going to talk to the press and that they like if you ever listen to linden johnson tapes that was back when you could control information. Listen to Lyndon Johnson, the recordings.

The president of the United States was like, he was so angry that people kept leaking all his war plans. And he goes, and he goes, I'm telling you right now, I'm going to take a one-eyed farmer and turn him into my secretary of defense because these motherfuckers are leaking left and right. Listen to those tapes, and you'll see how frustrating it was for the president of the United States

to keep a fucking secret. those tapes are great but have you heard the nixon tapes yeah i have fucking they make the mel gipson tape seem yeah oh yeah yeah but you see yeah super right yeah but but but you see what i'm saying but it's like my grandma grandpa i'm like that's how they were it's like thanksgiving yeah yeah oh my god watergate watergate fucking sunk him because he didn't erase that tape because i think it was the tape is is uh they had it all on tape him talking and it's like why didn't he erase that shit that's crazy yeah but that's what i'm saying that shit's recorded and there are a lot of people recording it

and there are a lot of people want to take you down. So whenever you try to get away with stuff, you better be able to control. I think they can because I think they know, even if you're on the left or right, if you release that, you're out. Go ahead.

You're going to fuck him, but you're out. Oh, yeah. Because Trump did run, back to that same thing, Trump did run on, I'm going to release those things. And as soon as he got in and people started to question him, he's like, I think that's what's fucking.

I think that's what's fucking him. Well, that's causing, yeah, he's not a politician. What's actually causing the biggest rift in the right is people are like, yo, you ran on saying you and it released this list. Well, there are going to release now all the Jislane Maxwell transcripts,

all the stuff that she said. I will say this. I wonder why, like, so we've seen Luis Emanjone, right? We've seen him do the perp walk. We've seen him. We've seen nothing about the fucking guy who killed Charlie Kirk.

Where the fuck is he? Where is he? What's going on with that case? What's going on with that case? There's no information. Anything about that, the guy who shot at Trump was then killed. Yeah. I mean, I think Tucker covered him a little bit, but there's still, like, no digital

footprint on the guy. I guess he was a real loner and didn't have much, and I can understand that, but it bothers. Brian buys it. He was a real loner. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. Really?

Well, wait, he must have been a bad assassin because he missed Trump. Well, have you ever looked at him? That's a loner. No one's hanging out with that kid. No, he's a loner. Yeah. I think he was a loner. But, and again, again, I've talked.

to people who run security on a high level and they were like that happens because what happens is you're responsible for your vector local law enforcement or swats responsible for the the rooftops and sometimes guess what dude somebody's shift is over and shit happens and people miss that but they didn't miss that it's embarrassing they did they didn't miss that when they saw them get up there no one did anything that one's super suspect no no people who were civilians did that what i'm saying And cops, he pulled the gun, he went back down the law. I wonder if he was a fucking, now that, so I looked into that. That's not what happened.

They go, they go, I wonder if that's a cop. Somebody's on that roof must be a sniper, right? All that shit. But that, the truth is people fuck up and it's really bad and embarrassing. For sure. Because there's a breakdown in communication or whatever. But everybody wants to be like, oh, no, it was this and that. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, there's crazy ones coming out about Charlie Kirk. Of course they're. crazy ones. Oh, with his life being associated with it? Yeah. That's dark, man. It's crazy. And then there's like, like, oh, it was actually a bomb and it was.

It all comes back to the Jews. The Israelis killed him because he was, he was talking about the turning back on Israel. I will say this about conspiracy theories. They're always a find your own adventure that leads to Jews. Always the Jews. I know how every movie ends with that stuff. It's an invisible circle of globalist Jews, uh, Jews, uh, international bankers, the Jews.

It's all, follow it. Dude, that is what kills me with some. conspiracies because sometimes I'll be listened to a new conspiracy. I'm like, uh-huh. And they're like, uh-huh. And then wait for it. And they're like, and that's when the Jews and I'm like, fuck, they got me again. Every time. And it's never been different for 2,500 years.

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