The Fighter & The Kid - Nobody at 170 Can Beat Islam — TFATK Breaks Down the Truth | TFATK Ep. 1140

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen dive into a massive week across fighting, comedy, and culture — starting with Islam Makhachev’s dominance at welterweight and why nobody in the top 10 can ...solve the problem at 170. From Shavkat, Ian Garry, Michael Morales, and Belal Muhammad to Tsarukyan and Ilia Topuria potentially moving divisions, the boys break down every realistic path to beating Islam.Brendan also recaps Tiger’s elite Texas flag football team — a squad of freak athletes, former NFL-dad genetics, and opponents who look “twelve going on Saquon Barkley.” They talk youth sports intensity, insane matchups, and playing at Dallas Cowboys facilities.Then the guys react to UFC 322: Shevchenko vs Zhang, JDM vs Islam, the wild grappling chess match, Craig Jones’ prep, and what it really takes to close distance on a Dagestani wrestler.The episode takes a hard turn when Billie Eilish calls out Elon Musk over his wealth. Brendan and Bryan break down why “fixing world hunger” isn’t as simple as writing a check, the realities of global infrastructure, and how celebrity activism often oversimplifies complex issues.Finally, they cover the Aakash Singh situation — viral clips, oversharing, backlash, Myron Gaines’ response, and why internet dog-piling is brutal for comedians.One of the most packed TFATK episodes of the year — fights, drama, comedy, and chaos. Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkStopBox - 10% off AND a Free StopBox Pro when you use code Fighter10 at https://stopboxusa.com/DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code FIGHTER. That’s code FIGHTER, bet five bucks and get $200 inbonus bets if your bet wins. In partnership with DraftKingsO’Reilly Auto Parts - http://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERProgressive - Visit http://progressive.com/ after this episode to see if you could save.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:40 It's Monday, everybody. Monday, pal. Happy, happy Monday slash Tuesday. No socks, buddy? Buddy, I, I, um... Do you have short socks underneath or no socks? I don't have any socks. I went, I went raw dog.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I went raw dog. But I'm into... Those are going to smell like complete trash when you take your foot out. I was in Vancouver with our boys. Austin Chase who likes his clothes. He's not afraid of a pair of Tom Ford's Snakeskin boots. And he was telling me, I got to step my game up a little bit. We got to talk.
Starting point is 00:01:11 He said, look. Out of all the people, he's a great, he's a fashion. No, I know, but I've been telling this for 10 years. He said, listen, man. You're an old man. You can't do this. It's embarrassing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And I was like, you're right. So your takeaway, it was like, yeah, I'm going to wear shoes with no socks at 50s. My problem is I'm not, I don't have. Socks? I don't have that part of my brain. Like I go in there, I go, I want this. He goes, no, stop it. Stop with these fucking earth tones right now.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Just hold on. Because I'm like, I want to get this. And he goes, that's cheap. You can't see that. I'm like, look, so I'm a little bit of a spaz with that. But though, you've had, though, you have good shoes. These are my, yeah, I got to wear these. These are my golden goosies.
Starting point is 00:01:52 They're good. You got, you know, the next phase is wearing socks, Brian. I wear some socks. You wear some socks. get some socks in there after some socks it's a little lazy this morning a little tired the babies woke me up did they hadn't seen me in four days i get it i get it little tired said fuck the socks yep dude i was in dallas all weekend took a little road trip out there that drives tough it's have you driven well i got i got dallas i got plano mic drop comedy this friday saturday
Starting point is 00:02:19 that's farther than what i was i was like in east dallas i think northeast so i shouldn't drive look it up jenn i think yours is a four hour drive it now it's so like we used to go L.A. to San Diego, that's a nice drive. There's some traffic, but it's a gorgeous drive. Austin to Dallas and you go through Waco, it is a tough one. I don't know why. Not pretty. Dry. Super ugly. Now, there are Buckees. There's Buckees along the way, which makes it. Not terrible. What is it? 319. Actually, that's, yeah, that was my drive last night. For Plano, you said, right? Plano. Yeah. That's not bad. I would drive that. Yeah. I would drive that. That's no problem.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But for whatever reason, it's just the three hours from L.A. to San Diego, I don't mind it from Austin and Dad, I don't know what it is. It just kicks you right in the nuts. Because it's ugly. Because it's dry forever. Your favorite thing is Buckees. The kids love, dude, these kids went to Buckees. I'm like, I wonder, they got jammies from Buckees. They got beef jerky. They got stuffed toys. But they have the beaver jammies that they wear to bed. Beaver jammies.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Beaver jammies. They put them on. They look like beaver. That's cute. And they had an adult one, they go, Dad, get on it. I'm too hot and I'm going to sweat that thing out. Yeah, I'll get too hot in that. It was by far their biggest thing in the weekend. Not Tigers games, not playing Dallas Cowboy Facility. Beaver jammies.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Beaver jammies. Buckees is their Disneyland now that we moved to Texas. It's kind of sad, but also awesome, right? Hey, kids, I know you like Disneyland. Texas just as good. Well, kids, kids love beef jerky too. If they haven't had it, they go, what the fuck is this? New jerky candy.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Buckees literally has everything. thing it's the size of walmart two to walmart is it they're so big dude oh i didn't know that and they have 1,000 pumps for gas and it's crunk as fuck it's super crunk a lot of things there name something they haven't what do you need tools i always think about those places as kidnap havens like where you know right first thing i said for we got the car and went no one leave my side if you're going to get kidnapped this is where that's right the tiger goes what i'm you take my hand boss you take your mom's hand, no one leaves my sight. If I'm a pedophile, if I'm kidnapping kids, this is Numero Uno.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It's so big. You guys can get distracted. There's jerky. There's this. Dude, you stay by me. Yeah. Did you hear the story about this woman was in Walmart or one of these big things like that? Let's call it Buckees.
Starting point is 00:04:46 No, don't put Buckees on blast like that. Let's say Target. Okay, okay, Target. And child disappears. mother says my child is gone right watch this they shut that fucking place down they lock the doors they lock every door said nobody's getting out and nobody's getting out they found that kid in the bathroom in a dress dressed like a girl uh i'm sorry it was a girl sorry it was a girl like a boy shaved head head was shaved and with a dress on jesus christ i'm sorry with with boys clothes on
Starting point is 00:05:23 That's what I meant. Right? You keep getting twisted. Right? How terrifying is that? Oh, my gosh. Did they catch the guy? They didn't catch the guy.
Starting point is 00:05:29 He got away, but thank you. All right, at least they got the girl back. I locked that place down. I look at every fucking surveillance camera. And then I take that guy and I, ready for this? Skin him. No, I fuck him. After that.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. First, film it. First, gonna fuck you with a, I'm going to peg you with a strap on. We're going to have to track him down, though. and then I'm going to skin you. Yeah, dude, what a piece of trying. Being a parent, you imagine? Imagine?
Starting point is 00:06:01 No, no. Kill me. Yeah, yeah. No, dude, I was in, let's do this super sad story, Brian. I was in Dallas because Tiger's part of this late Traverse elite flag football team. They've won 50 games in a row. They don't lose.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And they play up. They play up with fifth and sixth graders. They don't lose. These kids are monsters. All of them are their dads are all four. former NFL or NBA monsters, right? Monsters, all of them. Got some genetics.
Starting point is 00:06:28 The quarterback 8 in, he's 10, I've been around football a long time. Yeah, long time. When I was 10, coached 10-year-olds, I've never seen a better quarterback at his age. What? Insane, dude. Looks like a little mini Patrick Mahomes. And then Tiger's like the tight end, and he'll play some quarterback and they'll switch. So T's never played with this team.
Starting point is 00:06:51 He's practicing them a little bit. played with them so like hey first term it's in Dallas you guys want to go i'm like yep they have the sickest unies we get the schedule and these dads are used to it you know they're doing the things and the whole crew's great and you get the schedule like ah fuck we're playing the something team i'm like what's the matter like well they have 11 year olds and they might be 12 i'm like who gives the fuck it's flag like you'll see man like between nine to 11 and a huge jump big jump buddy this kid came out long like black kid like mix long hair thighs like fucking
Starting point is 00:07:24 Saquan Barkley and ass from the heavens and just like with flags on I'm like he's 10 in what fucking world and the dad's like oh dude this just isn't it right
Starting point is 00:07:37 and I'm like well did any because you're supposed to check their birth certificate and stuff they go up to the guy around the thing and go Hey man did you uh did you check the birth certificate and the guy goes
Starting point is 00:07:47 we're pretty loose with that around here excuse me what's he 18? Bubba They handed the kit Now remember this team hasn't lost In 50 games Yeah
Starting point is 00:07:59 That quarterback Aiden's He's Will Chamberlain That quarterback That I'm telling you The best I've ever seen In 50 games Over the 50 He's thrown two interceptions
Starting point is 00:08:10 In 50 games First play a game How was he? How old is he? He's Ted Monster Trains with like all these High Level quarterback coaches
Starting point is 00:08:19 Dude First play of the game Well let's throw it to that kid who's pretending to be 11. Let's throw it his way. She kink! First interception, I don't know how long. And everyone's like, oh, that's not good. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Then we get the ball back. They stop us, whatever. And I'm like, what the fuck, man? They hand the ball off to this kid? Oh, buddy. Oh, buddy. See ya. Oh, but see you. You know, it would be like, it would be like if Barry Sanders
Starting point is 00:08:48 is in his prime, if you gave him a ball against 10-year-olds. It wasn't competitive. Who were his parents? I don't know. He was baby Hercules and one of his parents was up in it. He might be from the island. He might be from kryptonite.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He might be from Superman's planet. There's nothing you do. Nothing you can do. So they were the number one seed. We lost them our first game. That's our first time ever playing with them. I'm like, I thought you guys were fucking ballers, man. And then they're like, watch the next games will play kids of our age or similar age.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I mean, we destroyed him. every other team. But then we play that team again in the championship next day at Dallas Cowboys facility. Yeah. And we play better. They only be a little bit of a different thing. But it's a problem. It's a problem. Well, let me, let me shift gears. I said, how's he not playing tackle? Like, put some pads on the kid and get him out there. Save him. Save him. You know what I'm working? We're moving him slowly. Yeah. Um, your boy, Shador Stevenson. Shador Sanders. Shadour Stephenson. I'm thinking about the boxer, uh, Shakur. Your boy, Shador Sanders, got his crack at the big leagues.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah. Yeah. You learn the hard way. It's interesting to me. He was like, I'm a starter. I'm this, this. And they're against me. And it was a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And all the fan base was like, that's so fucked up. And he got screwed over. And then the GM's like, oh, yeah, because we don't want to win games to make money. We're not playing him because we don't like him, which has never happened. Never. And then he gets put in because Flacco got traded. The starter had a concussion. The starter had a concussion.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So they go, Shador, you're up. And he goes, about time. Two interceptions. Fucking. Oh, I don't hike. Oh, they lost. I mean. Oh, it's not preseason?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Oh, it's not preseason. You're not playing against the third string or guys that are never going to play in the NFL. And it didn't go well. Oh, you can't run around the backfield like you did in college. Well, they, the thing is that these quarterback coaches and the general managers know this, right? They were like, he needs to sit. for a year or two and learn before we put them,
Starting point is 00:10:55 throw them to the wolves. Forever. Or it might not be for you. Now hold on. And ain't that the truth about the NFL? There's a long ways to go. Long ways to go. Yeah, because.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Because those holes close that quick and because you have a second and a half? Yeah, and your athleticism's only going to get you so far. You got to be able to sit in the pocket and read defenses. That's so hard. It's a nightmare. That's so hard because you've got to figure, oh, my God. It's also, it's tough for him, too, coming in, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:20 it's nerve rack. But all that shit, all that shit, the fans talk to, and listen, Shorra's CEO alum, so I get it, but Bubba, you're not ready. Well, now he's going to have to play, like he's going to start probably, right? It depends how long Homeboy's out for with that concussion. Gable, depends how long he's out, but at least he'll have more time to prepare now, knowing going in. Yikes. That's how, I mean, literally a toughest job. It's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It's one of the toughest jobs in sports, being a quarterback. Just how it goes. They had to lead. Showtime. High. Oh, like. Yikes. Did you watch the UFC fights?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Did I ever have to watch on my phone? Yeah. And then I watched some of it at this other place because the kiddos were playing arcade games. And I watched the co-main event, main event, my room. And I'm not going to lie, I fell asleep during the co-end main event, but it would wake up and it was all the same. I understand. I need my $1,000, right? I won $1,000.
Starting point is 00:12:21 That's okay. Valentina is just too big. And boring. If you would have made the bet and said, hey, buddy, Shafchenko, Zanguelet. Listen, I get it. It's going to lead to bigger things. And for your legacy, you got to win whatever it takes.
Starting point is 00:12:39 He's so boring. All she said was, okay, I'm bigger. I can grapple. She's had grappling issues in the past. She's coming up and wait. I'm just, I'm not even engaging in striking. I'm later just going to lay on top of her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:52 You won. Yeah. Congrats. Yeah. And then. It's good feather in your resume, you know, feather in the cap. And then, of course, Islam, J.D.M went exactly the way I thought it would go. You just, it's like stand up, you know, get them all.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Look, JDM did a good job not getting submitted. Thanks to probably to Craig Jones. That's the only positive. It's the only positive. And I think he probably, I think J.D.M. probably knew after the first round. Oh, before that. No, no, no, before that.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Two minutes in, how easy the takedown was in the first round. That single? And then all that, all the Craig Jones stuff, who, it's worked. Yeah. But this is, this is what I didn't even consider. I always said, J.D.M had the perfect dress rehearsal to get ready for Islam. With, uh, with, with the law. No.
Starting point is 00:13:41 No, he did. No, he did. Yeah. The issue with that is Islam had the perfect dress rehearsal to get ready for JDM because he was like this is how Greg Joan coaches against guy similar to me even though Belaw is nowhere near Islam's level but he goes he's going to do this and this scenario this is what Craig has Tom in this scenario and literally just shut it all down all down so it actually it would been better for JD got the belt from like Leon Edwards or Sean Brady so you don't see how he
Starting point is 00:14:11 responds to your grappling but they they got a fucking blueprint for it. This way he does and Khabib's team went cool watch this and just it was even a competition you know but Islam's striking is way better than people think he was a little more bladed he brought in the i guess Olympic or like national you know the i don't know what it was but the russia's national taekwondo champion okay for the first uh two months for i guess he just had him just fighting at a different distance But what I thought Islam is really good I had seen was his ability to measure distance. Like, I think he's a much better striker than people give him credit for. Because I never think him as a striker, but it's subtle.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It's a subtle thing. It might be an ability to kind of stay just outside the pocket, like little things like that. You wouldn't call him an elite striker. No. His striking is set up for his grappling. He's the best at analyzing risk and not put himself. Good low kicks. Good low kicks.
Starting point is 00:15:13 His defense is good. Yeah. Good low kicks, though. Yeah. You know, caught him with some good low kicks. But I think part of that's just jacks, you know, when you're that afraid of the takedown and you can't get close. There's the only thing you're afraid of them. You can't really, you're not going to hit him because the minute you get close, you're going to be on your body.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Now, here's the thing too. You're on your back or you're on your stomach. Both are bad and you ain't getting up. You're just not going to stand. Yeah, I think Islam had like 20 minutes of control, if not more. And then he landed, that's what's crazy. He had, he only had to land one take on per round. And then it was over.
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Starting point is 00:17:33 Like, it was just like, Schochenko and him, it was just, I fell asleep, woke up, I'm like, you're in the same position. Okay. Now, I get it. I get it and part of the blame is on Zangueli and J.D.M. Where it's like, hey, it's your job to make this exciting. Those guys are going to do what they do
Starting point is 00:17:50 and they're the best. They're the champs. You need what what they have. Just close distance and start swinging for the fences or? The answer is there's nothing you can do. And Islam's going to reign champ for forever until he decides he's bored. Until he's bored. There's not enough hours in the day for JDM to make up the wrestling.
Starting point is 00:18:09 The 170 is a stacked stacked fucking right below here's the problem here's the problem yeah chin bring up the 117 rankings
Starting point is 00:18:21 we show me let's say you're matchmaker let's say you're Mick Mania shout to make love him yeah let's say you're the matchmaker for the USC yeah and Dana comes off
Starting point is 00:18:28 he's like dude that fight was fucking important we got to get someone to challenge to challenge Islam who do we give them next because the division stacked right yeah it's stacked
Starting point is 00:18:38 yeah who won through 10 I got a guy. Who 1 through 10 beats Islam? I'm dick riding somebody and we're going to get into this now, all right? There's a guy I'm going to mention. I don't know who it is because he's big and his body's good. I already know who it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Take it easy, dude. Okay? Now, Balal's my boy, so I love Balal. I love Balal. Bilal Islam? No, no, no, hold on. Fuck you. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:03 No, no. That's stupid. They're not stupid. Sean Brady. Saw it happen. Shafcott. Shafcott and Ian Gary. it's it's it's it's they look
Starting point is 00:19:13 Prattas and Ian Gary would be a fun fight to watch I'd like to see that there he fought Protestant Ian Gary no they didn't yeah they did Protestant Ian Gary beat him by decision
Starting point is 00:19:23 really he beat Prattas wow when I don't know man pretty recently but keep going let's just say you didn't let's pretend you didn't say that huh I'm sorry I didn't know that
Starting point is 00:19:34 last one fucking I'm sorry but keep going I'll listen I'll listen I'll keep listen yeah okay hold on now ian gary do you want rearrange your no hold on hold on ian gerry the fight the fight with the fight is ian gary and and a guy named
Starting point is 00:19:51 michael morales okay now hold on yeah again you know i entertain all your ideas i love it so ian machado gary fights belal mohammed this weekend and so what's going to happen is if eing gary finishes bala what you can if he finished bala he will automatically fight as Islam next. Because he already has the, he will fight his fight against Shafcott was fucking pretty good. Yes, it was. Pretty good. He had his back. He almost choked him out. So he put up a good effort in that. But then he beat Prattas already. Yeah. He beat. So if it goes to decision, I'll tell you what you're going to get. We'll get to that. But if he gets a finish, it's going to be Ian Machado Gary versus Islam, which is an interesting. Very interesting fight. But it's a very interesting fight. Listen to me. Let me reframe the question. Who out of 1 through 10 would be favored to beat Islam?
Starting point is 00:20:48 The answer is none of them. There is one guy that might, now I'm going to say it. Now, there's a guy, and he's young still. But Michael Morales is probably, if you were to really bet on the future, you'd say Michael Morales because, you know, he grew up being a pretty high-level judo player. His mama was judo. on the Ecuador Olympic wrestling team, which is, I don't know what Ecuador's wrestling's about. I'll tell you what it's about it. Keep going. It's not Russian. Yeah, keep going. You wrestle
Starting point is 00:21:21 in Ecuador, right? Yeah, they don't have a great pedigree. But I guess he was a grappler in a sense first. That's his background. He's clearly very athletic, very big for the division. Probably the most athletic. Yeah. I mean, him or Ian Machado Gary? Yes. So I'm actually interested in Morales, Ian Machado Gary. That's going to be interesting. Yeah, that's not having for a little bit, though. Now, see, I think Michael Morales, it could be the future.
Starting point is 00:21:47 You're on his dick, too. No. You're not on his dick. I'm not on his dick. I would like to see him and I, Machado Gary fight. So would I. To your point, but that's not happening anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I think he needs one more win before he's in the title conversation because who's he beat? Gilbert Burns, old as fuck, right? Leon Edwards, old as fuck, coming off two losses. Yeah. So he's not beating any of the young. There's a bunch of young dudes waiting in line. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So he needs a win over one of those young lines. He needs another three fights probably, right, Morales? Three is a lot. I think, I think, I think if, let's say he got, let's say he got, let's say he McGarry. He starts Sean Brady. That's fucking, yeah, you're right. I mean, it's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Crazy. Look, listen. Balal, don't count Balala out. Bilal's got a high fight IQ and that's going to be a good fight. Listen, Balal's our buddy. I need you stop fucking this up because you're way off. Bilal doesn't have a chance to beat Islam and their brothers. No, no, I know that.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And they would never fight. So he's out of the equation. I don't think Balal wants a piece of Islam because they trained and. Even if they didn't. He does everything better. Yeah, it's a tough one. No, no. So he's out.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Okay. He's our boy, but we got to be honest. It's a problem. Nobody can solve the problem. the problem solving the problem that is Islam Machchev is basically like okay he's going to take you down and he's going to keep you down and you don't have any way to get up except for one guy you can try to stand up except for one guy oh i know volcanoes he got up yeah and then he got stars but yeah no no no no in the fight where went to decision some people he won he won a lot of he did very well give him his
Starting point is 00:23:33 flowers. And then when you get starch, you mean when you took it. He proved this great. You know, you're talking about when he, he'd also gotten knocked out in practice.
Starting point is 00:23:39 So you take it easy there. But as far as that first fight, prime Volcanovsky. Amazing. Volcanowski is one of the most impressive human beings. If not the most. What he did?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Going up. Incredible. What? Incredible. But now Islam. Now you've got a hydrated Islam. That's what I'm saying. Islam at 70.
Starting point is 00:23:57 He's like, I love it. I've never felt better. You're like, oh, we're all fucked. Oh my God. that that power i don't know i'd like to see how shafcott does against islam he's not a year
Starting point is 00:24:08 injury so he won't jump right back in your title shot but his wrestling chafka chafc got a little bit exposed a little bit so against him machado gary or he's not that because you think ian's doing that to oh you think ean macho gary's getting islam's back well ian is ian machado gary is is is very long super long athletic and and very athletic and very athletic And, you know, if I'm, if I'm Ian's coach, I'm saying, Ian, kick, front kick Islam in his face, kick him in his stomach in his face, front kick the shit out of him, and, and punish him every time he tries to come in. Try.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And follow that fucking, that kick to the face, that front kick with a right, a left and a right, and just literally just go right up, right up his grill. Yes, that easy. I mean, I want to see some Anderson silver front kicks. It's so easy. Yeah, do that. Do that. I want to see some Leota Machita front kicks. I want to see some John Jones front kicks. But here's the fight. You know what I'm saying, though? I hear you. It's either said than done. But here's the fight you're actually going to get. So if he and Machado doesn't blow the
Starting point is 00:25:17 doors off Balal, right? And if Surukin doesn't blow the doors off hooker this weekend, they're on the same card, you're going to get Ilya going up to 70, and he's asked for it. You're going I think of Ilya come up to 75 is that's very interesting is it though very interesting I don't at 55 I like I like uh topier at 70 I don't like it such a hard time making 55 too I mean but he's short for 70 shush sure sure no to pierre doesn't have though 55 he's money he had a problem making 45 memory came from 45 oh right yeah sorry sorry he's a problem 55's fine for him he in a 70 huh he ain't a 70 he ain't a 70 no is on 70 now we're talking about a whole different thing yeah it's just a different thing um um
Starting point is 00:25:59 I like, though, these prodigies, these champions are made of different stuff like Toporia. I like this. I think it's toughest fight Sarukin, though, at 55. Like, if Sarurkin mollywapsed Dan Hooker, which is easier said than done, if you win, Sarukin's no fucking job. I'd like to see him by him. Serucan is also, at least, if you're going to take the bet against Sarukian with Toporia, I don't know where I go.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I might bet on Syrucian. It's his toughest challenge. Fuck, yeah. And then, Sarukian might say, you know what, I, I know that language. You ain't doing that to me. Islam. He ain't doing that to me. Well, he fought Islam.
Starting point is 00:26:41 His first fight in the UFC. I know he did. But this is a different, this is a long time ago. I know. And by the way, I don't even think that was in UFC. Was that the U.S. It was his first fight in the U.C. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Well, now he's like, I'm, I would love to go up to 70 and not suck that weight. I'd love that. And we'll see what happens now that I speak the same language you do. The fight really... Islam's a lot bigger than Surukin. I don't know if he's a lot bigger. I think the fight really... I know.
Starting point is 00:27:08 He really isn't. I've been with Syruki and trained with Sarukin. But go on, go on, go on. He's bigger? No, go on. You got this. Go on. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I think the fight is... I think the fight is Surukian Islam. And I think you're going to see Surukin, you know, I'm going to 70. And I'm getting that belt. And that's going to be Islam's toughest fight. But listen, Machado Gar-Garer, is a very special fucking fighter, man. He's a very special fighter.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And, you know, I, I, maybe he has the take down defense. Maybe he does. Tough, right? But maybe he does. It's not even that we need to take down defense. We need to be able to get back to your feet. You're going to get taken down. It's a bona fide deal.
Starting point is 00:27:53 You're going to get taken down. When you're that long, when you're that long, you have a better shot. Yeah. You have a better shot. and he can punish. And that's also why Michael Morales is also, he's tall, man. He's tall.
Starting point is 00:28:03 He's tall. You know, they have some leverage. Now, Michael Morales, though, I did a study of this. I went down a rabbit hole. With his judo background? He's about six feet tall. I thought he was taller. He looks taller.
Starting point is 00:28:12 He might be six one, but he's actually, you know, I was looking at him next to Rogan and stuff like that. He's a six footer. Machado Gary is six three. That's your study, Nick Tarogan. Yeah. Machado's every bit of six three. He's everybody six three.
Starting point is 00:28:23 This is a long-legged spider. And, um, and, and, with a high fight IQ and so good but so if you look at Islam though you look at one through 10 there's a lot of contenders you got you got kamar ozman we do now he's got some bad knees yeah he's got listen now prime tomorrow now we're cooking oh we're cooking people forget how good he was we're cooking hard i would remind people you beat the fucking walk i would remind people that want to they want to just count kamara usman out i would remind them that he fought a guy named Chimaev and got taken down a bunch
Starting point is 00:28:59 but by the third round was given as good as he was getting. I know. I know. And that's Chamaif. I know. Okay? So this is, this is, this is intriguing to me. This is intriguing to me. It really is. I'll watch it. Camaro's got a gas tank. And now I don't know if his knees prevent him
Starting point is 00:29:15 from being, you know, he's older. He's older. His striking is great. So, you know, I'm, I'm, I think the only test for Islam is if he decided to go up to 85. and fight Hamzat. That's, now we're talking a different ecosystem. Now we're pushing things, right?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah, I know. That's what I like to do. Huh? That's what I like to do. I know. And I understand that. But now Hamzad at 70, I would favor Islam.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Because Hamzot's killing himself. Yeah, the weight sucks. It's crazy. Hamzad at 85, you know, yeah. Well, let's not even talk about that. Do you think it's tempting for Islam to go up to? No, no, I don't think he gives a fuck. Just looking at the channel.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Not a lot of Americans No No sir No Yeah Not a lot of Americans I don't even think Let's see
Starting point is 00:30:07 There's Usma and Sean Brady Topperia Alex Tom Aspin Aspen all close thing we got Yeah and he's British as fuck Yeah Kayla Harrison holding the hole in the four down
Starting point is 00:30:18 She's holding the four down Um Yeah Why did you think Way Lee was going to beat Shepshanko I don't know. That's the thing I was talking about us on the shop show.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I always go for the underdog. Yeah. Like, let's say that gun to the head, you're like, hey, $10,000, who's your pick? I'm not betting on Whaley. It's fun. Like, what's fun for me is coming up with the nerve of how JDM could win. Are the odds are he's going to win? Probably fucking not.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But if I get on here and I just tell you how he's always going to take him down, there's not much. It's not a fun story. It's not a fun. narrative. So I always find the angle of how the dog can win. That's what I do. That's why I say, don't bet on my picks ever. I'm usually biased and I look for a story. Yeah. Now, it's gunned the head and it's my money. Of course I'm been in Islam. Of course I'm been Chefchenko. You know, because of course. What did you think of Bonickle? I loved it. So I'm glad you brought it up. Real quick with Ben Monsantini and Benial Darius, just a just one of those things.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Combine there, they're both Old as fuck, yeah. One of those things. Look, man, I got to tell you, I thought Bo Nickel looked better. I thought his striking looked better. See, that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:31:37 That's what I don't want. I know. That's what I don't want. You win by head kick, K.O. And go, oh, I'm a striker. I told you guys. Yeah. No, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:44 The reason it got set up is because he enforced more of the wrestling, which in change set up his striking. Yeah. Stick to the wrestling will get you to the party. Yes. yes if you fan yourself a striker it's not going to go well right and you know rodolfo's not a striker keeps his head right there far from it so yeah i'm glad you look good against the true bjj guy yeah
Starting point is 00:32:07 but your wrestling is what's going to do it yeah he kind of he kind of but you look better yeah he looked better overall 100% he did look here's the thing about bow i love bo but but the thing about bo nickel is he's been competing at a high level his whole life and he's lost before yeah so losing is not going to stop he's very special he's got a his learning curve is different than most people um and so i i don't count him out i think he's got such a future he's 29 years old and that you know this guy is and i do think he should be working on his striking because i think he has the IQ and the brain power i think he's got i think he should take a page out his long book work on the striking to set up your take down sure exactly because if your idea is that you're this world-class striker you're
Starting point is 00:32:52 you're never going to make top ten no but you could be a threat and his I liked his hands his hands look different he looked fast and it's his kicks and everything he looked different man he looked a little more crisp a little more confident yes now you're going to be more confident on the feet when you're fighting a straight jit-suit that is correct sir that is correct sir that is correct that is very true uh again this isn't this is the problem bow's curse is the you have seen like he's back give him a top 10 guy's right no slow down slow down is 29 give him more time dream like a backup quarterback give him some reps yeah but he's not the starter yet but i i mean he's i'm i'm i'm such a bo nickel fan because you're right i think he's one my favorites i think he's got
Starting point is 00:33:35 i think he's going to be amazing now now bow is not bo is not hearing a peep out of his uh islam's wrestling or machochev's wrestling straight wrestling yes straight wrestling emma wrestling no not not right now a little bit different different but they if they straight wrestled bobe's both of them bobees both of them yes and straight freestyle wrestling bobees both of them wow yeah yeah but now it's not translating to mma form yet yes he's just not no because remember kabib's team is doing mhm a chain wrestling for mhm a got it that's all they work got it so which is a totally different consideration yeah yeah yeah and then they're setting up with the strikes and all that shit you know a whole different thing the card was good i i feel i feel like the ufc knew those last two were
Starting point is 00:34:20 going to be snooze fast so like we're going to give you a tasty treat for the first three and then i need you guys to bunker down yeah boy that was a nasty nasty knockouts man with poor uh leon fucking and and and he got knocked out and he's smiling you see that yeah baneal didn't even know what's going on been i got hit behind the air he looked at his guy he goes what happened i know that's how it goes yeah hit behind the air you can't do shit break your equilibrium and just rumbles it and you're like right the fuck got hit right on it was showing me how like he like when people are here he was showing me how when you street fight he'll throw like that and hit you with his wrist right here so it comes here yeah probably not a good idea
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Starting point is 00:37:01 covered the fights what about this billy olish stuff good call chin so billi i have you seen this i want your thoughts on this because here's my initial reaction be alish super talented super attractive person, right? Yep. Makes the Lord's music. She calls out Elon Musk. If you go to, does it show her tweet? It says it was on Instagram, right?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Stories. Yep. Let's see what this thing says real quick. To call out Elon Musk as the Tesla CEO is reportedly approaching trillionaire status. The Associated Press reported last week that Musk won a shareholder vote, which could see his stock rise to $1 trillion if he hits certain expectations. The 23-year-old first uploaded slides from the My Voice, My Choice account about what the SpaceX founder could do with his wealth should he become the world's first trillionaire, which the account claimed includes one, end-world hunger, three, save endangered species, four, rebuild Gaza. After those posts, Billy wrote text on a black background, which read, etc. Pathetic, coward.
Starting point is 00:38:07 This isn't the first time the music superstar is your take on the old. So basically, he's like, hold on, with all his money, he could. cure world hunger cure this cure this you pathetic piece of shit whatever you probably didn't need to do that yeah and i was like god billy's wilding man what the fuck and i started thinking about i'm like so i have no he couldn't so so because the infrastructure's not there even if you donated the money this is what billy ilish doesn't understand now hold on before you go someone did go okay billy we see you're playing a concert new orleans tonight your average ticket's 150 dollars It's one of the poor cities in America
Starting point is 00:38:43 want you do it for free. There you go. Look, when people say Elon Musk is the richest man in the world, yeah, it's true. Do you know that with SpaceX and with Tesla and what Tesla is turning into, which is actually becoming a charging station for other electric cars and working that out?
Starting point is 00:39:02 All of that money is stock. It's not cash. And all of that money, most of that money in a business like that is put back into the company research and development stuff like that so the idea is so you're going to take a lot of money and rebuild gaza you're going to take a lot of money and rebuild play this play this game for me because because what you're people don't give a fuck about his stock and let's say he actually had a trillion dollars in the bank watch yeah go ahead so so great so you want to rebuild let's say gaza okay
Starting point is 00:39:34 and gaza is going to be rebuilt where do you send one way or another who do you send the money to to rebuild guys. Who do you send the money to you? Because I promise you, there's going to be some shading there you don't have any control over that money. It's throwing money at a problem. We have found out over and over again is not how things get done. How dare you? What about in California, we throw six billion a year at the homeless situation. There's no homeless. Thank you. Thank you. exactly this is the amount of money that is spent on things like development overseas on on all kinds of things um is not is not a cure all guys it's just not let me ask you this to be does he not have the resources right one if not the most powerful man in the world does he not have the ability
Starting point is 00:40:26 go all right all send however many billion dollars it is to fix gaza but it's going to be my people my contractors make sure the money's not consent to your government. He can't do that. He can't do that. Of course he can't do that. No. It's impossible. Look, he's running three companies. He's running one of the biggest companies in the world. I think that takes some time. He's also got 15
Starting point is 00:40:48 fucking kids. He sees his kids a little bit. I mean, it's not like he's not winning any dads of the year award. No, but trying to rebuild Gaza, end world hunger, which is such a general thing, or save endangered species. is a very complicated, multi-layered endeavor.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And oh, by the way, Billy, do you not think that people have been trying to do this since I've been alive? You know how long I've heard this from really smart, well-intentioned, wealthy people that have tried? Wait, so you're saying you just can't throw money and it fixes the problem?
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah, that's like public education. See what happens. That's what Billy doesn't understand. It's like, yeah, he could throw more money at it And that money, if you think it's just a money issue, you're kind of being naive. She thinks he's this guy's going, I've got those money. Like, he doesn't live that way, actually. Talk to Lex Freeman.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He knows him. He doesn't own a house. He doesn't own a house. That guy's not around. Which is so stupid. He's not walking around with like gold bars and just like doing cocaine and hookers. He's autistic, dude. He's on the spectrum and he's always thinking and always trying to grow his company.
Starting point is 00:41:55 But I'm saying he's so obsessed with his line of work. He's not like a materialistic dude. Nobody said, also, what makes you think he's the guy who knows how to do those things? What are you talking about? I'd ask Billy, who is the guy? So let's say you want to save white rhinos. Or let's say you want to cure the water issue in Africa, go to Africa. Let me, who, you think there's one guy who's like, oh, thank you for the money.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Now I'm going to turn on the safe water. You're talking about an extensive, fucking years of research and planning. Let me take endangered species. I got into this one in Africa. I had a bad take, too. because I was like, yeah, I mean, she's kind of right. He could do better with his money, but then when we talk about it, and I don't have big tits like her, so it's even dumber.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Let's take endangered species. I went down this rabbit hole in Africa. So the reason species become endangered is a couple of things. One is habitat loss because people have to, like, I don't know, cut down trees so they can have wood to cook their food because there isn't good gas supply lines because there's not good infrastructure, et cetera, et cetera. That's just one example. The other thing is, if I'm a really poor person and a rhino horn can fetch me $50,000, I'm going to kill the rhino. I'm not going to, my kids have to have a family.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. Thank you. We can keep going with why species are endangered for a thousand fucking reasons. How about the roads that the Chinese come and build and all the area they have to clear out because people need to get from point A to point B, okay, or the other NGOs that come in and help Africa. You're going to displace a lot of things. It's a multi-layered process, saving endangered species with your money. You know what this is when you talk about? This is a stupid you know what it is? It's that on-informed tape. She's a 23-year-old who sings. Nobody said Billy Elish knows anything about geopolitics, about economic policy, about world economic policy, about an it's an educated take about ending we've ended world hunger for the most part by the way everybody
Starting point is 00:44:06 by the way very important we actually have no there are pockets like gaza of course that are having like this places in africa there's so but you bring up how many starving children in america there don't bring up billiards tits we're talking about starving americans is that what is going on there oh okay oh you're not familiar with her work jesus christ you're not familiar with her work no i had no idea that was ultimate heavies dude okay and she hides them too that that that's wow you don't should pay her to yeah but but but like listen you got how many uh starving children in america there no no no we haven't solved starving starving starving is the wrong word
Starting point is 00:44:39 the starving so we when i was growing from the 70s and even the 80s a lot of the world was starving what has liberated us is technology and and believe it or not um uh the the fact that we're able to get vitamins into certain staples that didn't have those vitamins but Forget all that. Should bring up starving children. Technology is allowed us to grow way more food on much smaller plots of land. It's not about the lack. It's not about food.
Starting point is 00:45:10 We have plenty of food. It's getting the food to people, which we have done a very good job of. We've done a very good job of. So comparatively now in 2025, food insecurity is not what it used to be ever. We're feeding more people now than we ever have. Obviously, Gaza is an example of war-torn places. Oh, so it says it so food insecurity, and starvation are different. So food insecurity is the term used for lack of access to enough food,
Starting point is 00:45:34 so maybe they don't have money. And a child in a food insecure household may be protected from starvation, but their food intake may be reduced or parent may skip meals to ensure the children have enough. But we used to have real starvation in places like India and stuff. And there's been an agricultural revolution thanks to technology. And so that is not the case anymore. When people are hungry, it's usually war. It's something. supply lines get fucked up because of war it's deliberate one side is actually starving the other side you you have that but for the most part it's more of a resource and money issue yes but but but it's actually it's actually an infrastructure issue it's actually a supply supply in america in the
Starting point is 00:46:17 world in the but i'm talking in america it's not a supply change issue because there's a there's a fast food restaurant in every fucking that's right the only thing about america is we have meals on wheels so that we have a lot of elderly people in areas that don't have access to food. And that's why we have government programs that get the food to those people, which is why when you cut things like meals on wheels and you think that you're saving, you know, oh, we've got to cut government, big government, start with the military first before you start taking food away from handicapped people and very old people who have no ability to get food. Yeah, so it's just an informed take by Billy Alice. You weren't, you weren't familiar with her word. No, no, I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:46:56 she's got uh now at 58 uh talking about her body she's feels creepy no she's 20 what 23 am i being creepy though if i even mention it set a heavy set of heavies though i'm just yeah i mean if they're over 21 set of heavy set of heavies heavy heavy heavy heavy heavy has no got that's the one thing uh i'm allowed to make she's a very beautiful heavy beautiful woman by all metrics heavy she 50 she 24 heavy heavy heavy heavy. Seems to hide it though. Yeah, she wears baggy sweatshirts and stuff. She's probably she's somewhat insecure as a lot of young women are. No, no, no. The big heavies. No, she, she's, she doesn't want to be sexualized. Although she did post-war folk. Is that her? She looks phenomenal. Again, you're not
Starting point is 00:47:43 familiar with her work. I mean, she's, she's not in any way heavy. She's no, kind of perfect. Yeah. I mean, anybody has a problem with that is gay. I don't think anybody has a problem. Oh, she's, she's, No, that's why even her informed take, if she's that to me, I'm like, dude, you're right. We need to. Oh. Oh, dude, Elon's a piece of shit. Oh, no, no, I'm following her down any rabbit hole. Oh, you know, I'm like, you know what I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:48:06 I'm going to donate $10,000. Yeah. When I get out of here to these white elephants. Bring up that. Jesus. Here's the thing. Yeah, you're not familiar with her work, Bob. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Can I, can I get her in those black outfits, please, Chin? I don't think these are real. Um, that looks, not maybe not that, but that looks, that looks real, but this one doesn't. that looks real and how about the other one over there right there this one no the other one up there yeah no go over go over the next one there you go that's a weak as big man look at her look at her though she's gorgeous i um i heard that's how she hits different octaves is in her tit well the problem is that when you look that good everybody everybody's going to be like you're right you're a genius and then you start believing your own power yeah i would have done the same you believe your own bullshit oh yeah
Starting point is 00:48:52 she needs to be checked it's like no no no billy hold on hey or not okay taking out the trash don't wear those shoes though um yeah there's it yeah she she's bodied up yeah yeah young people with their opinions god bless her that's probably fake the veins look real though i think those are real but those things are straight yeah the whole thing's weird but whatever yeah yeah it's just an informed also a 23 year old singer is not somebody i'm getting my information from the problem is is is her fan base which is young is like you right girl Elon sucks and they go home and hopefully their parents like actually
Starting point is 00:49:39 it doesn't work like that yeah or they go home and they vote that's my problem they're so uninformed they're just so fucking i get her off the fucking screen channel we got it she has some heavys dude what else you got that was interesting though right yeah because more i thought about i'm like i agree with her big tits and then i talked to you i'm like she's so wrong and so dumb it's just a simplistic version yeah but i'm 41 yeah i shouldn't know better but even i was like yeah eonan needs to save the elephants look at akash akash with this traditional lady yeah so she's going viral like big times so many different yeah so many different people are talking about because she started a podcast with one of her friends,
Starting point is 00:50:21 and she's been saying some really crazy stuff. Because, you know, first of all, Akash has said that him and his wife, they were both virgins before they got married, right? Really? Yeah, and that's his first ever. So he probably had a traditional marriage or something. That's interesting. So let's see where I can start this one.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Here's an older video, so let me just play this real quick. My wife also hadn't had any sexual partner, so that helped disconnect a lot more. Let me ask you this. Do you believe her? If you've seen her, then it's hard to believe. If your man is weird about periods, that's a red flag. Break up with him immediately, no pun intended. Because when I was in college, I dated this guy.
Starting point is 00:51:02 You know, he didn't want to fool around when I was on, like, the heaviest days of my period. Okay, totally understandable. I get that. And I was like, oh, great, good news. My period ended. Like, we can, like, have fun tonight, blah, blah. And he was going down on me. Like, wouldn't you know it?
Starting point is 00:51:19 I was still spotting. And also, if you're, like, poking around down there, like, more blood can sometimes come out, even if your period is over. When I swear to God, like, I thought my period was done. He, like, looked at me with so much disgust. And I'll never forget that moment. Like, I felt so ashamed and so dirty. And, like, he was like, how could you do this to me and all this stuff?
Starting point is 00:51:45 So she's talking about being spotty and with a partner there. right so the whole virgin thing kind of is like a little bit iffy now but let me show you this clip this probably like summarizes a bunch of stuff that's been going on here my wife also had had a sexual party so that helps us make a lot more if you've seen her then let me ask you this like you believe i was popping my pussy living my best light in these white boy frat house god i'm actively trying to have an orgy because and you haven't seen nav yet but wait until you fucking see him So Nav is her friend's husband.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Who she's talking to right now? His body goes crazy. His face part always slaves, never times. I just know that Nav's dick is like at least 10 inches. One time I met this guy on Tinder and I made the dumb mistake of letting him sleep over, like not really wanting to fucking hook up. And I like woke up in the morning and like my asshole was a little sore. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And I remember. What kind of porn do you watch when you use a five-breakers? I'm like my own husband. You know what I'm like you doing it? Wait, that's kind of baller, but I could never do that. Yeah. And so I was using... What's your husband's that finances?
Starting point is 00:53:03 I'm gonna be really fucking off. I don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. First of all, that's a fucking red flag. I'm not, like, no joke. I love you girls.
Starting point is 00:53:11 If you want to work all, like, all for that, whatever. But like, any man that doesn't want to to have a joint bank account or isn't being transparent with his accounts or have separate accounts, that's a fucking red flag. This is not a two-way street. This is a one-way street. His money is our
Starting point is 00:53:31 money and my money is my money. She's saying a lot of stuff like that publicly online and that's, she's married to him. So, of course. I support Akka. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:55:40 There's one podcast, this one Myron Gaines. They're hating on them because, I, Akash was, like, putting them down on a flavorant. Chin, he's getting so much hate right now. But they're mostly feeling sorry for him. He's getting so much hate. No, he's getting just dog piled on. I can't imagine what he's going through.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I don't know the relationship they have. I like Akash. Yeah. I like Akash. I can't imagine. Imagine. Imagine being married. Yeah, we're never going to jump.
Starting point is 00:56:08 We're definitely, me and Brennan are never going to pile on Akash. I got that guy's back. Yeah. I don't know. him well but I like him and for those of you out there jumping on right now just hold on but just just for one fucking second be a decent human yeah imagine you're married take take it at his word he thought she was a virgin this comes out they're married she's going on podcast saying this stuff which is a whole other issue he needs to address you might be playing a character i don't know what
Starting point is 00:56:35 she's doing here maybe she's trying to get she might be whatever she's doing yeah i mean no just the character thing i don't but just imagine me in all Akash right now. Just be a fucking human for a second. Yeah. And let me say something about someone like Akash and being a comic. I know that we as comics, like sometimes we put on this kind of tough guy thing or we, we talk trash. But at the end of the day, Akash is funny because he's an artist, because he's a sensitive guy, because he's a good guy because he likes human beings. You know, like this is not somebody, this is not a guy to jump on top of. And just, because he's on a successful podcast just because he's a successful comedian he's a good guy man
Starting point is 00:57:19 he's a good fucking guy and uh you know it for me in these kinds of situations it's better just to keep your mouth shut and let them work what did a kosh you do do do kosh anything about the clip yeah i'll show you the clip hopefully this is the full one he's got to address it i guess so this is a weird thing about this clip though yeah let's make it feel sick yeah it's tough one. Let's see if this is... Parney, his wife has been a complete two, three years ago. Some of the things are true.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Preference is not... So this is a few years ago, and this is a... This is a Maren guy that I'm talking about. I know, but there's a show Akash reacting to the most recent. Oh, I'll say... What I find corny is... My preference is not my women.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Now, I thought it was, I'm not dating my women, period, which is the cornyest human being outside of a criminal to me, period. Akash only dates Brown. Argos has been with... with one girl in his life, who's his wife. That's my wife.
Starting point is 00:58:14 So this is like loyal to and through. You guys have established yourselves as role models, from sims to pimps, which is another model I find kind of corny, but I looked into what you guys are about. And a lot of the shit is just childish, which is fine if you want to be funny, if you're gonna paint yourself as life coaches and then say, like, my preference is,
Starting point is 00:58:33 which is honestly bullshit, it is, I don't wanna date black girls. That's the way every black do that white girls says it. I've dated black girls in my life. Alright, bro. Who the fuck hasn't, except me? You know what I mean? Everybody's going to dabble in everything. It is the mentality that I have an issue with.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And a lot of stuff you guys say in general, I think is stuff that's kind of childish. I saw a clip where you were like, oh, the nuclear family's falling apart. What do you do? I don't get married. Just don't get married. You're actually trying to help, man. Are you talking about an insults where 18 years old? That's some shit you say to college. I'm going to turn you from a sim to a pimp to a pimp. All right, bro. Can we grow up? I mean, yeah, he's gone. So he's basically talking smack on these guys on his show.
Starting point is 00:59:11 And then this stuff comes out years later. At least he was saying it to them, though. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's going to hard in the paint. So this is a cost. He stands for values that I agree with at the end of the day. I mean, I, you know. So once this happened.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yeah, when you're a podcaster and you've been talking for a long time, you're going to get some, you're going to get it back, right? I mean, it's just, it's part of the game. It's the game. And, yeah. So this is Myron's response to after everything's been happening here, right? And he talks smack on Schultz, too, which is not cool, but...
Starting point is 00:59:43 Okay. He goes, I'm never wrong about these women. Stupid ass. Akash tried to lecture me about women years ago with his equally retired, all right. Here's the jeet, stupid, that's why me and microphone herself at Packas about to cook him. And that's just all the videos that are compiled with her doing all that
Starting point is 00:59:59 stuff. And the way Akash responded is by just putting that video up again. Who is the guy that he, that just said that? Who is that guy? They have a podcast, I think it's called from Wimps The one guy has a big following. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:12 They're popular on YouTube. That's fine. Let them talk. And they're like, you know, men dating life coach kind of stuff. But this is his, this is Alcash's response. And it's just basically that same clip. My preference is not my women. Now, I thought it was, I'm not dating.
Starting point is 01:00:28 This is what we just watched, right? Yeah. That's how Akash got back at them. That's weird. Yeah. It doesn't defend. Yeah. No, no.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Either way. It's a, it's a bummer that this drama is a thing. you know like this is like also it's good for that podcast because schultz is massive so it's good to go back and forth i just i i hate it i'm the same way i do that i go like i'm like i'm like i just don't like seeing people overshare in general maybe there's some oversharing i'll cause things i'll talk with his wife though for sure you know and just like what come on man like i've been in this game a long time and then this just causes i'm not saying you can't do it but being that free about everything it just fucks things up for me
Starting point is 01:01:09 like there's people who are not rooting for me you're giving them more firepower i'm not saying don't do it could you not allude to some of that stuff for me can you not embarrass me that's how i'd handle it i mean i'm an i'm an old-fashioned guy and you are too and i you know like it's it's like when you're married i would say having each other's back is at all cost it's the most important at all cost and i bet a caution her it's like i call i call my wife my ride or die i'm defending that woman to the end of i think most people are yeah yeah well well yeah anyway i wish him well we we we're in akash sing's camp i'm in i'm in we're in akash sing's camp and so fuck those guys and i got his back so i don't even saying fuck those guys i'm just it's just all of it like just
Starting point is 01:02:03 stop both of them yeah i gosh was just being direct and talking to them like man's a little harsh too though he's a little harsh too yeah but he was just being honest doesn't like what they stand for and now they're coming after him but i think they got embarrassed and probably know akush's a little bit right there but maybe that's because i just agree with him anyway i'm i'm yeah yeah i don't like you any of it yeah tough one okay okay all right have i don't know if you guys been following this the door dash girl stuff no no man so this door dash girl she uh she had an order that she's supposed to leave yeah so you do know about this the guy the guy was naked yes so let me see well so the girl the girl got in order and the
Starting point is 01:02:49 the you know the instructions were to leave it at the door right you know you can you have the option yeah so leave it at the door so instead of leaving it at the door the door was wide open and he was naked i guess or his bottom half was naked and he was like just passed out he was drunk passed out yeah so she ended up recording him And saying it was a sexual assault thing. Oh, my God. That's her, by the way. She's completely nuts.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I'm sorry. Look at her face. I know. First of all, you can't go in somebody's house and film them. He's also in his home. You know, you can be naked in your home. They just fired me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 The police are doing nothing. I lost my job. That was my only way to make money to pay my bills. Yeah. 2025, I was a victim of S.A. by a DoorDash customer while I was doing my job as a DoorDash driver. Excuse me if you've already seen this. This is my third time posting this because TikTok keeps silencing me and taking my videos down and giving me strikes. So if I get one more strike, you guys, I'm just letting you know right now my account is going to be big. Which, well.
Starting point is 01:03:52 So I'm going to try to word this as chill as possible to avoid getting this video striked. So on October 12, 2025, the Doordash customer requested that their order be left at their front door. Because he's naked. door their front door was wide open their lights were on and they were sleeping on the couch within the eyesight of the front door with their pants and underwear pulled down to their ankles and they were indecently exposed to me um i got this on video and i'm not even going to be posting the video clip anymore because i'm pretty sure that's what's getting me the strikes um but yeah i reported they just fuck just young and dumb same with billy aisle's stuff it's just a
Starting point is 01:04:29 terrible take she's crazy and a narcissism looking for attention that's what she is And if I, and she realized, oh, shit, it fired back. She's not stable. She finally, she got, she's arrested now. Two felony accounts. Really? As of like, yeah, a couple of days ago. Why?
Starting point is 01:04:45 Because of that. Open the door. Yeah, because she videotaped and put his, his naked body online for everyone to see. Yeah, she's a fucking, she should have just went to the police. She doesn't realize like, that's the crime. Yeah. Not him in his house passed out. And he specifically asked you to leave it on the door.
Starting point is 01:05:00 There are a lot of these people, young people I see. And maybe it's the SSR eyes. They're not healthy. But she thought it was going to go the other way. And people were like, oh, my God, girl, yay, girl power. But society's like, hey, dumb ass. Hey, cuckoo. He's in his home.
Starting point is 01:05:14 You went into his house. He's naked. Yeah, she's not well. She's not well. Nope. She weren't doing any jail time, but, you know, she can pay some fees. Yeah, this one I didn't really get, but this Texas A&M thing walkout, the sheriff, like, literally bumped into these players.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And I don't know if there's any history. behind this but I'll just play the clip for you this is crazy look at this they're coming out of the tunnel like he bumps into both of them and goes get the hell out of here what was this guy thinking he did on purpose you saw him do this yeah literally does this
Starting point is 01:05:49 that was really weird you got sent home we can't have that's it though as far as I just got sent home who did the state trooper he wasn't all the work he's kind of a shit head hey dude they're walking out because to play a game and you fucking are looking for a fight. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:06 That guy's an asshole. So, like an ultra Texanam fan was like, this for the boys. And like, where you're fired? Yeah. Maybe he literally is in the, was in the middle of a fight walking off and just like,
Starting point is 01:06:18 fucking get out, you know, like maybe that happened. But that's not good. You can never do that, though, as a police officer. No,
Starting point is 01:06:25 no, no. No. Bump into the other. Did he get in trouble here? Oh, yeah. All I saw I sent him home right after that. I don't think he got fired yet,
Starting point is 01:06:32 but I'm sure it's coming. Yeah. He was sent him. home from the game yeah shithead he's like what I was just defending our honor like that's not your job he was like what the fuck I'm walking yeah
Starting point is 01:06:43 um and he goes get the fuck out he's like yeah we're running to think there's a little racism going on there I think that cop is maybe I hope not I hope not it's not a good look I'll tell you that no they're not the bed if he uses the end where I probably would put a heavy payment out
Starting point is 01:06:59 that guy was having a bad day whoever that sheriff was Oh, he's just a rabid, Texas A damn fan. Oh, yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. He's a fucking insane text. Yeah, and they were down 30 to nothing the first half.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Oh. They came back in one 31 to 30. Really? Yeah. Wow. We'll just get you. Okay. Should we just take this to the Patreon then?
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