The Fighter & The Kid - Patrick Bet David | TFATK Ep. 942

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

Patrick Bet David joins the show and the guys talk what inspired Patrick to be successful, recipe's for success, what "score system" on people means, why having someone that you loved in your life that betrayed and/or destroyed you is good for you, meeting Dana White and much more. DraftKings - Download the DraftKings app and use promo code: Fighter Goldco - Find out how you could get up to $10,000 in BONUS SILVER (while supplies last) at https://goldco.com/fighter or call 855-928-3489 now! MeUndies - https://meundies.com/tfatk for 25% OFF plus free shipping

What's up, D Fat K. Arby. I'm missing today's episode. I was on the road and our boy Patrick Bet David was in town. It was this was shot on the Thursday. I think I was in Orlando. So Brian did a Fire and Kid pod on his own with one of the greats Patrick Bet David is my brother from a very smart mother So enjoy this pod with Brian and our boy Patrick. Hopefully it's not too boring. Come on Brian. Come on Brian. I will be in Chicago December 8th and 9th.

Brian is all over the place. Where's Brian Callanette? So I'm in Chicago December 8th and 9th. Brian will be at Good Nights this week. That's November 9th and 10th and 11th. Good night's that's in North Carolina. Things in Calgary, Yuck Yuck's November 16th through the 18th. Go get your tickets to see the big gay owl.

BrianCowen, BrianCowen.com. Yes we did, cause we back at 8K. It's the fight only in the kid. This is really the fight only in the kid. Come on, baby. Are we rolling? We're rolling. Patrick, bad David.

Dude, I'm so excited. My man. And Shob couldn't be here and almost literally was trying to figure out a way to fly back. I was like, he couldn't do it. He has this reason for it. He's on Florida. I've never seen him be this excited about you being on a podcast and this upset. He goes, call me when he gets here.

Has he ever done that? Ever. So he's a huge car car. I asked him about the cars. I asked him about one of the Yankees. I asked him about, he just had a thousand questions for you. He's had an astral impure. The question is, is he gonna be competing?

Is this gonna be imposing, game? He doesn't have the body for that, but he has the strength. He's bam, bam. He's a gorilla. He's a big boy. Yeah. But you, you bodybuild. I used to, yeah, back in the days, it's bam, bam. He's a gorilla. He's a big boy. Yeah. But you, you bodybuild. I used to.

Yeah. Back in the days, I was like, this was my dream. I was going to be a Miss Rolimpia, you know, Mary Kennedy, be a governor, you know, going to Hollywood and then boom. Yeah. Took a complete left turn. You have become for me and for a lot of people. This voice that what I really appreciate about the show and you is that you take on

all compass. You'll interview a Marxist economist who apologizes for Stalin. You're there to learn and listen to all different sides. You push back, you're always respectful, but you are interested. It seems in real dialogue and having your mind changed and having your mind expanded, but also, but also I know where you stand politically, I know where you stand economically, philosophically, I think we have a clear understanding of that, so you hold that line, which I appreciate, because I think you and I are very aligned.

But it's very refreshing to see somebody that doesn't purify their echo chamber, to see somebody that is willing to take on all commerce and actually listen, even if you don't agree with them. So my question is, how did that start? You became very successful as a business guy. I mean, you write these books. I got friends like, dude, blah, blah, blah, they love you.

You become this guru, you know. But then you said, what? You said, I want to expose myself to the blah, they love you. You become this guru, you know? But then you said, what? You said, I wanna expose myself to the ideas, the big ideas, politics. So you gotta realize, I mean, my mom and dad, my mom's side, they were communist, my dad's side, they were imperialists. So the biggest debate I've seen in my life,

opposite to Jack, maybe Hillary Clinton and Trump, the biggest debate I ever saw in my life was the first 10 years of my mom and dad. It was Gabriel versus Diana. Wow. Every night, it's an argument over rich people, all greedy and poor people are lazy. That's the argument.

My dad said, the reason why poor people are poor is because they're lazy. And my mom would say, the rich people are rich because they're greedy. And we had this one uncle. That's a fundamental divide, but it is. It's very interesting to me. It is.

So I'm in the middle saying, yeah, you're right. Rich people are greedy and yeah, you're right. They are lazy, but man, I'm confused. What's wrong with my go-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and- mom write his dad write him what's going on here. And parents don't realize, sometimes you say something, and then you and I are busy and we'll just kind of walk away. And we forget to come back and follow, I remember the one time a guy who was teaching me about being a sales leader, so listen, let's say you had a big month, and you made 50K in a month.

When you're sales guys made $3,000 in a month, he's having a bad month. And you're on a call with them, and you're giving them a hard time because maybe he's not running appointments, he's not working hard, he's not doing his thing. He says, you get off the phone, you made $50K that month. He gets off the phone, he made $3,000 that month.

He's down, he doesn't feel good about himself. He says, make sure that that call ends with you lifting him up. Don't go to sleep. Do not allow that guy to go to sleep without you lifting him up. So you're making him. Yes. So let's just say you and I had a call and you chewed my ass out. Like, dude, what was the song about you? And I'm like, oh, man, yeah, you're right. And then I get off the phone. And I'm thinking about our conversation all night. But he's saying you call me and say, listen, as tough as I'm on you, I believe in you, right?

But sometimes as parents, we don't do that. Our parents didn't do that. So I was like, they say something, 22 years, you believe it. Well, maybe that's right. So yeah, you get defined, don't you? Yeah, 33 years old, I put my mom aside one day. All right, can I ask you a question?

What was your problem with looted? What was your problem with this guy? This guy was the Deca Million over our family. Like he lived in a 7200 score for the house and upland by San Antonio. If you know the drive San Antonio, right next to Snoop, I would go to his house, you'd walk in, office over here with a library,

bedroom all the way down with a Jacuzzi, living room you walked to your left, and then there was a big kitchen with island. He would always stand in the middle and make breakfast for all of us. I'd sit there as a kid walking through the house. Dude, I love how you know. Yeah. Like, because you put that map in your own.

Dude, you know what I mean? That's the house I'm getting. No, bro. That was your goal. You went, I knew that. That's exactly what you were like. Bro, you got that palace in your head and you were like, I'm going to fill that out. But I tell you, we went to one seer and I wouldn't say single word.

But I watched every day. Goals. Goals, right? Then I go to the left here he had a pool table with a picture of his family with all dressed and white. And this guy was a conservative, but he had a picture of Al Gore and him on the wall next to the facts machine.

And then on this side, he had one of those big box TVs, the 70 inch, but it's like 10,000 pounds. And we'd watch Jordan play on Sundays if we're there, NBC time. And you walk outside, swimming pool, basketball court, tennis court, he had a bird's nest on this side, and I would watch him, and he was like this.

Ten of his kids are sitting outside, they're big Christians, he says, you know what, I had a thought this week. I don't believe Jesus is real. What do you think? And then they would start debating for two hours. Damn. He would always poke all his kids constantly.

He would poke to spark debate constantly. Wow. And I'm watching this guy. I'm just taking notes. I'm like, okay, you know, my dad works at a 99 cent store. My mom ran out of money, went back to Iran, but I'm gonna lock on to this guy. Can I one day have this guy's life? Okay. So I aspire to be looted al-Hasey. He died a few years ago. And it's pretty well-known. I i got to take the story with the sky died so anyways later on at thirty three i'm having a meeting with my mom i said mom what was your problem with the sky what did he do why did we not like the sky he says you know what i'll tell you now

he says because when he made his first money we never saw him again i said mom the guy is busy he says you know what? You're probably right But at that time you don't know you're thinking he thinks he's better than everybody else and we don't see him anymore Right, Chris. So we're at Raffis place Four years ago six months before he dies and his daughter Jackie Seized me and he says hey, you know my dad's yes, I did I'd love to see her that so I walk over to his dad her dad

She he stands up. So can I take something? He says yes, I'd love to see her. That's why I walk over to his dad, her dad, he stands up, I say, can I taste something? He says, yes. I said, you probably saw me as that 12, 13, 14, 15 year, every year I came to your house once, you're not watching like a hawk. And for 10 minutes, I recited every single detail about what he would do. He starts crying.

This is big. This is 90 years old at this time, though. I say to him, I said, on colluter, you have to realize this. You change my life. I say, you're the only thing I could lock on to to say, this is possible. He's a Syrian. From Iran, if I work like him, one day I can have that life.

I'm not even your kid or even related to you, but you changed my life. I came with an example. He did it with an example. So for me, this whole concept of sitting down, talking politics, this has been an interest of mine for a long time. So when I made the transition, our content's always been business, entrepreneurship, all this stuff for the first seven years.

It was all niche. That's all I talked about. And then it was in a real mobster, Sammy came over, he did a great job with them. And then it was mobsters, then it was, you know, China, bodybuilding, all these niches I would get into, John F. Kennedy assassination. And then I can't help myself with politics. So we're at three million subscribers on the attainment. I said, you know what, I wanna talk politics,

but I haven't sold the company yet. And it's risky if I do because I'm running an insurance company at the time, with 25,000 insurance agents in 60% are democratic, Democrats and 40% are Republican, 54% are Hispanic. And so you're dealing with this African-American Hispanic community. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

But I'm dealing with politics. So I'm like, listen guys, here's what would I stand for. But I respect you. But I'm going to have the conversation. This is what your CEO stands for. And eventually we start our first podcast. First time we do the podcast on a brand-spanking new channel P.B.D. podcast

57 people are watching us like and And next you know next one next one dude. We got seven comments bro. We're back at that again Who's this guy that just commented? That's sick. What did he say and then that grew and then obviously, you know people would say He's making a mistake. It's the cardinal rule You should never go from talking business to politics. Patrick's gonna be dead. It's over with. Just yesterday, today, cross five million subscribers

by a team of P.B.D. podcasts, like 1.5. But we're just getting warned about that. I watched you build that. Yeah, whatever you're interested in, like I watch you, and I love having you on our podcast when I do, and you'll go somewhere, I'm like, okay, it's obvious. This guy's dad was a former plumber. He was never involved in anything with, you know, of course, nothing to do with intelligence.

Nothing. Nothing, nothing. Why? Because I lived all over the world. Of course. I mean, that's got nothing to do with you. Just a regular guy. Just a regular dude.

So when I listen to him, I'm like, okay, this guy's got a lot of things he has opinions for. Three, four, five deep levels. And then the audience finds you and says, I'm kind of weird like you too. And I go, you're out there too, man, there's millions of us. Yes. You know what my father used to always say to me? He would say, never be, it's a, steep yourself in the big ideas. Understand, like, immerse yourself in the best that's been thought and said so you have to have a command of of the competing ideas

He said but never ever be an intellectual. I said what do you mean? He said There's always an answer look for the truth the truth you can find and the truth is a hard line a lot of times Don't be a relativist. Don't be like well sometimes. Yeah, they killed a bunch of people But you know in that case historically, it's not, there's an answer. There's a right, there's a wrong, there's a good, there's an evil. He was always about that. So you can be immersed in the big ideas. But the trap is you hear a lot of people, for example, now saying, look, I'm prohumanity, I'm anti-murder. That's nice for you, bro. But you don't come from a certain part of the world where

philosophical and political commitment is everything. And if you're on the wrong side of that line, come to your house and they kill you. You understand? And I think being a Syrian, being an Iranian, the way you were, you don't have that choice. But I think it's fascinating that one man can be a great businessman and obviously a great father with all his kids and just be living his life and you see him once a year, dude. And you just got a map. I mean, the way you describe that house, you were a goal oriented dude,

which I always say is the most important thing. You saw what you wanted your life to look like in technicolorolor in 4D. And here we are. Let's take a little break from Calendr's chat and chat in our boy Patrick's Air Off. Let me give Patrick a little break and you guys a break. Mark your calendars because November 11th

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I get sucked in. You'd be talking to Sammy the Bull, you'd have these debates, and you'd just be sitting there listening, and it was just your face, because you were literally learning. I might think about Rogan, his success, it's basically because he says wow a lot.

Because he's learning with us. Wow. That's what he does. He's learning with us. I was doing his podcast when we were in a fucking in a garage. So it's the same thing and then I would watch you stop and I sucked in and you go, hey guys, if you like this,

hit this. Never did it, but I eventually did. Look at that moving on. But then I eventually did. You did it, but I eventually did. I'm moving on, but then I eventually did. You did it 50 times after a while, I'm like, I gotta listen to the rest of this dude. Yeah, classic. And now you've become, I think this guy who,

you're just, I don't know, so this was all, you knew you were gonna get here, this was the goal. You did the insurance thing, entrepreneur, you make your money, and now you're a guy who wants to foster debate now you want to get involved you you're on rogan i love the rogan goes did you come on here to get me no endorse trump i said not endorse trump but i think you know you not having them on the show is

help and by that that's what the argument was about but uh... you know it's wild uh... while we're doing that podcast, guess who texts me? Trump was watching a podcast in his plane. Oh my God. We have a picture of their entire camp is up there watching the podcast from the plane. And that was a message coming off, of course, by the way, if they end up doing it, the podcast,

it's gotta be timed properly. Today may not be the time to do it. It's probably got to be more second or third quarter of next year. Post, maybe RNC type of a thing, maybe September, October is the ideal time to do because it'll break it. But again, want to know about Joe. Joe's going to do what Joe's going to do. Joe's the booker. He's going to do it. Joe's going to invite whoever it'll break it. But again, one thing about Joe, Joe's gonna do what Joe's gonna do. Joe's the booker.

Joe's gonna invite whoever he wants to invite. And that's why the world loves Joe. Yeah, well, he's just honest. Yeah. He's basically tells me. And he's multi-dimensional. It's very hard to find multi-dimensional type of people. The other day, we created a scorecard.

And this scorecard, I'm having a talent's dinner with my guys. And these are guys that are creating content. Vinnie Adam, all these guys are at the house. And I'm going, I'm friends. Vinnie's doing great, but I'm going. Vinnie's doing really good. Vinnie's, by the way, one of the funniest, Vinnie O'Shaun is one of the funniest comics

on the planet, people don't realize it. And they need to, and I'm so impressed what he's doing now. He's just getting knocked up. Yeah, bro. You know how much he's changed his life, his decisions, what he's doing right now. I call them off, you know what he's doing.

I call them up, I go, dude, I'm loving this news. Yeah, yeah. Because he's following your lead. Yeah, what he's doing right now, if you know what he's doing. I call him up, I go, dude, I'm loving this news. Because he's following your lead. Yeah, and he's doing it, like he's not breaking at all. He won't take, I mean, he's in a very good place. It's about time. But we're having this dinner and we created these four criteria. And we gave everybody a score card. And I said, give me any name.

And let's give you a score okay so the score was based on Personality are you likable? Okay content? How multi-dimensional are you with content? Then next was entertaining and then there's one other part that we added to the to the whole thing so The highest score we had everybody on the list that we went through. We had like 30, 40 names. The highest score was a tie between Trump and, uh, and Rogan. Because they're entertaining. You personalities, attractive personality, right? Content, they can go in different places. And it's a wild thing that those guys ended up being at the top. But

we put a lot of other guys on the list. Some guys are very smart, but they're not entertaining. Some guys are very entertaining, but they're not very smart. They're depth is low. Some guys are, you don't trust them. I guys just don't trust this guy. You know, you're not likeable. There's something about you who ruptured me the wrong way. Every once in a while, you'll find a multi-dimensional person

and that guy's upside is now going to be hard. He's going to work. How is he going gonna use his talent, and that's why Joe's the goat. That's 100%. What do you see as a guy who's so keyed into these zeitgeist and business politics, I always say, guys like you are, I listen to guys like you because you've come

into contact with reality. I mean, there's a measurable criteria for whether or not your business is doing well or not. So, if you run a business like you're insurance people, how many people that were working for you? Now, I'm saying when you're business before you sold it. Oh, with 45,000 insurance agents when we sold it. Now, for, yeah.

So, I always say, in that situation, you're looking for results. You can't be thinking about, you're not, there's no, there's no like, well, I need a quota of black people here, a quota of brown people. You need results, man. And if the guy has, you know, if the guy comes in dressed like Tinkerbell, if he can sell, you got the job payment. That's, that's the bottom line.

That's why I like capitalism and markets. But what do you see? And now you're, of course, now you're interviewing everybody on the Sun who's a politician. What do you see as the biggest threat to our democracy right now? To our democracy. Yeah. Do you do what keeps you up at night? Well, right now, we are one person being offended from World War III being started.

Okay. Today, that's the biggest concern today. It's changing, and it's changing really, really quickly. So there's a few things. In a household, the reason why boys need a father, because sometimes moms can't bring these two elements at a level that's needed. For example, I'm having Tom Brady at the event, we're having a conversation. And I said to Tom, I said,

I noticed the people that do something very big with their lives, not small, but massive. Like they can't stop. Like you can't stop Musk. Musk can be a trillionaire tomorrow. He's still working the same with the next day. Musk can go buy a house, the biggest house ever, and 200,000 square feet with the most crazy thing in there.

He's coming to work the next day, same time. That's much. He's not going to stop, okay? Because Musk had something that others don't have. He had it, Brady has it, Jordan has it, Trump has it, a few people have it. You need three things, okay? Number one, you have to have experience unconditional love when you're growing up, because you have to know that's possible.

Unconditional love typically comes from a mom. You need it. It's unique. You can screw up, you can get arrested, but your mom... She's done death row, she's the one. She's the one, right? That's right. That's the mom element of love.

Sometimes it's not mom for everybody. Sometimes it's that. But for the most part, it's mom. Number two, you need to have someone in your life that you loved so much, so much that betrayed you. You need that. You need one person in your life that you would have taken a bullet for

that absolutely betrayed you and broke your heart, almost destroyed you. And no matter what you do, you can never win this person over. Nothing. You can make all the money in the world. You'll never convert them. You can have the best six pack, biggest muscle winner UFC championship. You will never win this person over. And it's a never. It's not,

I finally won him over. You will never win him over. So one unconditional love. Two is the element of somebody destroyed your heart. And no matter how much you win, they're never gonna be on your side. And last but not least, is the reason why I wrote this book, choosing your enemies wisely. Most people choose the wrong enemy. Most people have no clue what they're doing to themselves.

They're absolutely choosing the wrong enemy in their lives. You choose the wrong enemy. All of a sudden, you could use waste 20 years of your life, 30 years of your life, right? Okay, so for example, if we go to choosing the enemy's wisely, let's choose the wrong enemy. Feminist movement, who's the enemy? Men. Men are the enemy, yes.

I'm holding a vault conference two years ago. And on first day, we do a personal identity audit. List of questions, you got to go through as the homework. The next morning, we talk about it. So you got to go by yourself that night and go through these questions We got a couple thousand people in attendance from 40 plus countries next day I'm on stage And I'm saying who wants to tell us what big breakthrough you have one guy says this one husband a wife say this one Then one girl is sitting over you with her sister and her sister sing raise your hand raise your hand raise your hand

Finally, she says I have to do it. I said, what's that? She says, I'm 39, 40 years old, about to turn 40 in a month. She says, I make more money than any one of my cousins, siblings, I'm the one, every boy that I wanted to beat, I beat. I made more money than them. I drive a nice car, I live in a beautiful house, I go to whatever restaurant I want,

I have all the Chanel person. And I'm miserable. And I'm lonely. And I'm lonely. She says she's crying telling the story. She says last night I realized men are not the enemy. Now we've seen this in many movies before right when there's a he's not the enemy like the whole thing with Jerry McGuire would grow a sitting round with all these other.

I don't care. I love him right. I don't can all the divorce couples are bitching about their husbands and men and all this stuff and Jerry walks in. So it's not like his new story was she had a breakthrough feminism. i don't get all the divorce couples are bitching about their husbands and men and all this up in a gerry walks in so it's not like it's a new story with shadow breakthrough feminism one of the worse enemies

ever example for women it's a woman it just hasn't it hasn't panned out this concept of choosing your enemies wisely it applies to countries it applies to wars it applies to politics it applies to faith it applies to business it applies to your self too it applies to faith, it applies to business, it applies to podcast. It applies to yourself. Because a lot of times you think that you're going

to protect yourself and all your attention is going over here. When the enemy's over here, it's everything. It's such a wise, it's such a great subject. Because, but you have business planning for the audacious view. It has a business. Can I read something out of that for you? Just check this out. Watch this.

Okay. Because I want to get back also to... No, you... No, I'm going to... It needs somebody to break your heart. Watch this here. Watch this here. Check this out. I'm going to read two quotes for you. Number one. Okay. A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends.

Balta Zahar, Grazian. Now let me read the other one. Check this out. This one will give you chills all over your body. You have no enemies you say. My friend, the boast is poor. He who has mingled in the fray of duty that the brave endure must have made foes. If you have none, small as the work you have done, you've had no traitor on the hip, you've dashed no cup from the pejorative, a lip. You've never turned a wrong to right. You've been a coward in the fight. Charles McKay.

I'm sitting with Dana yesterday. Wow. And I said, Dana, I got a book coming out. Choose your enemies wise. It's a business planning book. We're finished on our meeting. And he says, what's the title of the book? He said, I said, choose your enemies wise.

He says, look at that right behind me. And if you've been to his office, you know what the picture's on the wall. So the I said, look at that right behind me. And if you've been to his office, you know, the wall, the Asian, the thing. Yeah. And he says, no, no, look at the wall. I said, then I don't know what I'm looking at. I'm telling you, look over here. So I have to stand up and I come around and I look at the wall.

And on his wall, he has this picture that I have to take a picture with them. He says, may God have mercy on upon my enemies because I won't. And he says, you know who said that, right? I said, who? I said, is that a general? Is that a general? Is that a general? I said, is it such and such? Finally, was general patent. May God have mercy upon my enemies because I want, even a day no white, the famous quote that video when he says,

fucking bet against me. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. He says, bet against me. Tell me it's not going to happen. Tell me it's going to fail. I love it. I love every minute of me, tell me it's not gonna happen, tell me it's gonna fail. I love it, I love every minute of it, right? Here's the guy that chose his enemies wisely.

I love him. So you talk of this book, by the way, this is for anybody in business, it doesn't matter what you are. I'm reading it. It's a formula, there's 12 building blocks. If you're going into 2024 and you want 2024 to be the beginning of the greatest years of year,

maybe you wanna have a breakthrough. Most people write a logical business plan, it's boring. But this applies to a podcast, or to a business-pen politics military, whatever it may be, comes out December 5th, choose your enemies wisely. But go back to the question you asked about, what keeps you up at night?

Israel palestine, okay. We're on this side. I can't believe your pro-Israel. I cannot believe you just question that new yahu i cannot believe you have the audacity to say why isn't egypt taking the refugees from gaza how could you say such a thing the reason why they're not taking their refugees more than eight hundred a day

because egypt knows that if people leave gaza there will no longer be a palestine how dare you not say things about hamas Have you not read their charter that their whole goal is about eliminating Jews? Have you not seen what they've done to the kids? So here's a point there, that's okay, but I'm not trying to win. I'm not in the game of making friends with the audience

for them to sit there and say, do you guys like today's episode? Do you like today's episode? My idea is listen, if you like me today, you're gonna be upset with me next week. But if you hate me today, be patient, you're gonna love me next week. Because I wanna have the conversations.

Amen. So the part that we have today, we need, we need someone that knows how to lower the temperature. Remember the example I gave about mother can to certain things that a father can. A father knows how to bring two elements to a boy's life. Fear and respect. A boy needs to fear a man and respect a man But he also needs a love if a father's also loved and he knows how to bring love you got to trifecta

You like to just them Timberlake you can dance you can act and you can you know sink so a trifect of a father Emposes fear once a quarter Burns respect from his kids and loves on them. If you can do that as a father, you have the highest potential of raising good kids. Most fathers only impose fear and there's no respect in love. Some fathers are pansies, they only impose love, no fear in respect, but you need all three. America today, our president, doesn't impose fear, doesn't impose respect, and is not earning love for anybody.

Nobody, Andrew Schultz said at best, he says, the way I judge a president is by the merch they sell. Biden ate moving merch. Trump has moved merch. A form of moving merch is what? You're admired, you're loved. What merch are people buying for? Have you ever seen anybody where Joe Biden had?

Have you ever seen a charisma vacuum? And I also think that Biden just doesn't stand for anything. He seems to have been hijacked by the far left. And I don't even know. There's no, I have my issues with Trump as a person. I think he tends to be, he's such a, he's a Trumpist. He's about himself in a lot of ways. But at least there was a coherent

Economic and foreign policy that I could follow that I could that that that that was something that I could make sense of When you've got the left is a snake eating its own tail I don't even know what they're talking about half the time you've got them standing up for the minority But then at the same time they hate now that this point there. They're surrounding Jews You know and Harvard when they're just trying to walk across the quad. I don't even know how to make this gender ideology. I guess a woman is just an inner feeling, so suddenly I'm a woman now, and you have to call me a woman,

and if you don't, you're gonna get censored. I mean, what are we talking about here? None of this makes sense. Biological males and female sports. What are you talking about, you know? So we can go on and on. But what I think is very important is to your point, is being clear and concise and speaking the truth.

Like we know what 2 plus 2 is. It's 4. Well, I said about the Hamas thing. Look man, you want to have the conversation about Israel Palestine? Man, that's a no problem. There are two sides to every story. That's a complicated issue. You're gonna get into the weeds with that.

And nothing I say is gonna change your mind. That's a biblical, emotional issue as much as it is a logical issue. But when you come over a border and you kill entire families and their pajamas on a Saturday morning, we have to, there's a button called to stop everything button. All of us have to go hold on and you took kids, you took hostages,

children, entire families. I got to hit that button. We got to stop everything because there are some things that are beyond the pale. There are some things. You're a serial killer. You killed a bunch of people and you come in and go, my, my mother was so mean to me and you might tell me a heartbreaking story by your mother.

You got to go, bro, you so mean to me. And you might tell me a heartbreaking story about your mother. You gotta go, bro. You still killed 10 people. You understand? There's just, there are lines. There are lines we have to defend. There are lines that we have to stand by. If you don't have lines you're willing to defend. If you don't have lines you're willing to defend

and fight for, then who the fuck are you? If I don't know what you want, if I don't know what you honestly revere and what you are willing to stand up for, regardless of the cost, then you're probably not a fully realized human being and you're certainly not a fully realized country and you certainly don't have a fully realized philosophy. That's that's what I believe and I think you're probably in the same camp. Let's take a little break because the holidays have come in, the weather's

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and realize there's a high likelihood this person's going to defend whatever Netanyahu's doing 80% chance. Okay fine. But having said that, half of Israel was against Netanyahu, half of Israel was not for the illegal seven months. But if I'm talking to somebody who's Jewish, I get what position you're going to take. Good.

I'm playing the odds game. Yeah. If I'm talking to somebody that's Muslim, I understand what position they're going to take. And they're going to see Hezbollah as freedom fighters. I lived in Iran. They were not seen as freedom fighters. Okay. they're gonna see Hezbollah as freedom fighters. I love the Niran. They were not seen as freedom fighters. Okay, people were scared of Hezbollah. You don't see people being frightened of what our military does in US. You don't see people marching in the streets, magbath, armed recoil, magbath, other, no one in the military ever, the other day someone's talking to them, I said, I can't believe you support this, you support this. I said, brother, I've had the luxury of living in Iran for 10 years

and seeing people marching down the street, flagulating their backs with a trail of blood, screaming mag bad on Rikana. I have had the privilege of living in a refugee camp. By the way, my name is Marik R. I'm Marik R. Death upon America. Death upon America.

And I lived in U.S. and I was in U.S. Army at the 101st Airborne. I've never, ever seen us marching, saying death upon China, death upon Iran, death upon Russia. We've never taken that position, but reason, logic. Okay, this book called Power vs. Force. If you've never read it, it's a phenomenal book to read. It talks about levels of consciousness. If you pull a Power vs. Force chart, if consciousness. If you pull up power versus force chart, if you do that and the audience can see the chart, it'll show you from the lowest level to the highest level.

On the lowest level, you'll see apathy, grief, like if you pull up the square one, the one to the right, right there, yeah. If you pull up that one, look at the lowest level, right? You'll see right there, shame, okay? Killed apathy, grief, fear, desire, anger, pride. All of those are bad things. That's all force.

You gain power when you have the courage to speak to somebody you disagree with. And then you're able to stay neutral to the best of your abilities. You're willing to talk. You're accepting the differences. You're able to reason. You're able to love people. And then you have Joy-Pisson Lightman, which is very difficult to get to.

But the point is, when you do sit with somebody that disagrees with you, you have to say, he's supposed to. I totally get it. I get it. It's totally fine. We can have this conversation, right? I enter some wood position you're taking. But at the same time, you know, for me living in America with four kids, it's going to be America first. Regardless, the policies have to be America first. It's not any other thing before America. I always say, people who live in other countries when they come to this country, they're more patriotic than any American.

And guess what? It should be, if you're part of Hamas, you're gonna believe Hamas first. If you're Palestinian, it's Palestinian first. If you live in Gaza, it's Gaza first. If you're Israel first, if you're China, it's Palestinian first. If you live in Gaza, it's Gaza first. If you're Israel, Israel first. If you're China, I totally understand that part. You're not, you're going up against your pony like, well, you know, the guy that's playing for the next time with the Lakers. Yeah, we're best friends, bro. We went to high school together.

No, no, he's next first. Then you, he wants to win the championship. Then you guys can be buddies having dinner afterwards when he gets the ring and how you, that level is very honest and it's straight up. You know what we're talking about Trump, how he selfish and all this other stuff? If there's anything, any show I highly recommend, anybody who doesn't know a lot of politics and they just kind of want to learn, I say go watch Phil Donahue and Milton Friedman,

I don't know what year it is, 1974, and 1984, maybe some number like that. It's great. Okay, yellow. I think he's one of yellow tire yellow shirt. And then Phil Donney who says, what do you say about all these selfish people in Greek? He says, oh, it's always the other guy that's greedy. You're definitely not greedy, right? Only I'm selfish. Right.

As if we're not selfish. He makes fun of Phil. Phil doesn't have anything to say. And the point being everybody naturally is selfish. By the way, we ran a chart, okay, in the book, there's a chart that explains the selfish, selfless chart. I don't know if you've seen this.

It is a book by Anne Ran called The Virtuous Self. That's right, that's right, green book. I'm not going to get it. So there's this chart that says the net positive index. So we ran this chart and we had a group of people that we were doing focus group to see what's gonna come up with this. We said, who's a net positive to society?

Is a person that's 100% selfless, 0% selfish, a net positive to society, or a person that's 100% selfish, 0% selfless, who's more of a net positive? You know what it was? If the 100% selfless. 100% selfless. Because at least he's going to be clean. He's not going to smell. He's going to take care of his stuff. He's going to have his...

Now, is he going to back stuff now? He might also create an industry and hire, I don't know, a hundred thousand people. Absolutely. But you know what the number was. Fifty-fifty people are good consulieries. They're good to bounce ideas off of. They're good board members, right? But a good mixture of somebody you can tolerate working for,

but he's still gonna kick your ass and drive you and he's always got something he's pursuing, it's a 70-30 mark. It's okay to be 70% selfish and 30% selfless. That's the right combination, 65, 35, 70, 30 that we found. So when we work with people, we kind of will say, what's this guy here? He's a 60-40 guy, That guy's an 80-20.

Okay, we know where to put him. That's a 90-10 guy. Shit, that guy's 110. I know what I'm dealing with when I'm negotiating with this guy. That guy's 20-80. I wish he had bigger dreams, and I wish he wanted to do something more because the world would benefit if he had bigger aspirations.

So I don't have a problem with somebody who was selfish as long as they're 30% selfless. Well, I gotta say, I wanna just tell people, when I did your podcast and you had to leave town and i this touched me this adam adam sauce and says he hit me and he says hey listen patrick is one of you know

uh... david one i mean patrick one of your know that if you if you want to use his boat you want to go out of his boat uh... and go to his house he's not there but you guys can we can take the boat out and i was like this dude doesn't need anything from house, he's not there, but you guys can take the boat out. And I was like, this dude doesn't need anything from me. And he's offering, he's just out of the kind of his heart. He's not even in town going, if you want to take the boat out. I went, this dude is such a fucking man. We like your company bro.

I appreciate it. I met you 15 years ago at Cavaliyah when I tell the story. I'm sitting on watching this guy, I'm like, oh my God, charisma, charm, talking everybody in. And I knew you because he's like, what the fuck? You crazy mother fucker me, what the fuck? I was playing a Lebanese guy, my friend. Let me go back for a second, because you said something

I've never heard anybody say. Now, when you're my age and you hear something you've never heard before, you stop shit, okay? I've heard it all. I love that betrayed you. Dude, you just said you need somebody who loves you. Got it. Then you need somebody who loves you. Got it.

Then you need somebody who breaks your heart. And I couldn't agree more, but I never thought of it this way. I need you to expand on this because I've never heard anybody say this. And I think you could make the case that if you understand how to navigate life, anything bad that happens to you, anything bad that happens to you, anything bad happens to you. If you navigate it properly, if you understand that it's a chance to grow,

anything bad that happens to you is good. And most of the good things that happen to you, especially the ones that are given to you, whether it's just being born into a nice family and stuff, those can be handicaps. They can be as much a handicap as they are a benefit. Talk to me about this. Where the fuck did you come up with this? And it makes so much sense. Is that in the book? Of course it is.

Yeah, and it's part of, so when you're in the sales business for 20 years, I'm always sizing people up to see who I should pull my time into. We talk about the concept of 90-10. If I find the right guy, I'm better off putting 90% of my time into one person, 10% into 10 other people combined, then 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, that's not as principled right?

That's pretto, 80-20, but I go even more, 90-10. Usually that's right. So if we go to 90-10 and you lock on to someone, now here's a mistake, what's the risk? If you lock on to the wrong guy, you're screwed. Absolutely screwed. By the way, the NFL, NBA, UFC, NHL, MLB, every one of these leagues has to have somebody they lock onto.

The NBA locked onto LeBron James. The NBA locked onto Kobe Bryant, improved the game into China. The NBA locked onto Michael, locked onto Magic into China. The NBA locked on to Michael, locked on to Magic and Larry. This is a concept of now, NBA has to find a next person who will lock onto, it's not Zion, is it Janus? Who will it be?

Is it Luca? Who do you lock onto? You have to see same thing. Who do you have to lock onto? You have to find the next guy that's a shaman. Is it on Mali? You know, is it this? Like, even the other day when you're watching

in Ghana when they're a fury fight. I'm like, there is no way. The last two rounds, you saw a fewery's back in, he's not even fighting, he's holding, he's like, dude, somebody probably whisper to him, don't do anything. Don't get in there. We're gonna give it to you, 46, 45, 40, for whatever the scorecard was at the end,

because we want the other fight, the guy that's sitting over there, we can't have this guy, we can't have this guy, we can't have this guy. We can't have a lose. Hundreds of millions of dollars, Bob Arams, and all this, they're like, this is why people don't like this product, right?

What's happened to it? But the point with this whole concept of meeting that, the 90-10, then you have to size people up. And you got it like, let me poke this guy a little bit, test them. Ooh, okay, that drives him. Got it.

So tell me what drives you. Tell me about your mom and dad. Tell me about your upbringing. Tell me about who were you in high school? Who were you closer to mom and dad big siblings? Are you youngest middle oldest? How competitive was your family? What what drove you? What's your biggest discipline? What's your biggest victory? Who challenged you the most? Who was tough on you? Who drove you and then by the time you're talking to this person 30 minutes later You'll notice all of you paying close attention like boom That's the trigger got it

But then you'll talk to somebody like yeah, that's the trigger, got it. But then you'll talk to somebody like, yeah, I don't really know. It's all loopy answers. Yeah, I mean, I guess so words like that. I'm not wasting my time with you. You're a loopy and soft. And your eyes are like, there's no fire in your eyes. Loopy and soft. So I talk to a guy, then all of a sudden 20 minutes into it, you're like, bingo. Last time we're doing a podcast with Bradley. We do two hours of podcasts last night in Vegas. And then when we get on the flight to come to a guy, then all of a sudden, 20 minutes into it, you're like, bingo! Last time we were doing a podcast with Bradley. We do two hours of podcast last night in Vegas, and then when we get on the flight to come to him.

Bradley, who? Bradley from Vegas. He's got his own show. He's, he's, he's, he's, I'm talking to him. Same thing. We start talking. Good guy, nice guy, talented guy, multimultimillionaire.

Does very well for himself, got a great life. But his eyes are good life. His eyes don't have fire in it. By the time we were done all night, all morning. He's hungry. Oh, I can't even tell you what happened to him afterwards. We're walking away because I told him I said, you haven't found your enemy yet. The sole concept about, well, you know, it's not healthy all this stuff. I'm not talking to you. Listen, I'm either your cup of tea or I'm not. If I'm not, tune off. You tune out and go on something else. You're saying you need an animal. You have to have it.

Because the enemy keeps you hungry, keeps you crouched and ready. Right? And by the way, you know typically the person that drives you the most, you can never reveal it to the world. You can never tell the world. It's your secret. It's nobody else's. It's not public. You never tell anybody. Not your wife. Nobody. You have, and it's typically gonna be one that sacred, sacred sacred to you. And... I'll tell you a story. Go for it. Todd Phillips, director of the Hangover,

writer of director of Hangover, bad Santa, it just goes on and on. Hangover too. It means done a couple of movies, old school. Just like the Joker. You're talking about a genius. Legend. And known for a long, known him now of 25 years.

And when I remember the hangover, I was, I was on set and I said, I looked at him, I go, how much are you making for this? Cause we're close. He goes, he looks at me, he goes, you're making more than I am right now. I was making for the scene, I was making, I don't know, I don't know,

I don't know what I was making. It was for a day. I go, what? What? He goes, yeah. He bet on himself. He bet on himself. He wrote the hangover. Why do you write the hangover?

I call him up after it becomes this crazy, crazy success. Like, just kept making money. It was, he said, I'll take no money. I'm going to hire all these unknowns in this movie. Let me own a piece of this. There are three people that own that movie. He was one of them. Okay, he did pretty well.

I call him, I say, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but I'm gonna tell you the story. I say, what drives you, dude? What drives you? How do you do this? He goes revenge, fuck these bitches. And what drove him was that he was trying to do old school too, but everybody was too busy.

Everybody in Hollywood was like, now we got this. Yeah, you had this movie that didn't do very well. Called it was with Billy Bob Darden. It did. Nah, thanks, man. You know, you have one of your numbers, lady. He went, oh, really? Oh, that's how you want to play this. Drops hang over after old school. Yeah. Okay. I got you. Yeah. Let me write this shit. Yeah, that's what he did. And he just went, you guys don't want to do that. You don't want to play.

How about I write a movie that changes the landscape and how about I hire a bunch of unknowns, Zach Galafanakis? He called me up. He asked me about Zach, I got everything. He's a funny guy in the world. He goes, yeah, his eyes cracked me up. Nobody knew Zach. Nobody knew Zach.

Nobody knew Bradley Cooper. Bradley was doing TV. When we were doing hang Bradley Cooper Bradley was doing TV when we were doing hangover Bradley was taking pictures of me with tourists because they wanted a guy from mad TV etc they didn't know he was he hired everybody who was not known bet on himself revenge his enemy he had enemy he had a very clear idea of who the enemy was and so so as you're telling me the story it's very interesting to me. But you say, don't reveal it to anybody.

You could. So usually you have a lot of funnames. There's 14 types of enemies. So go ahead, make your point. I want to say what your question was going to be. It's just, you know, usually what happens in life is you have a contract with life. Most of us go through, we, we, we, I'm going to work hard. I'm going to do the right thing. And God's going to provide me with the, you know, contract with life. Most of us go through, we, we, we, I'm gonna work hard. I'm gonna do the right thing.

And God's gonna provide me with the, you know, all the goodies. That's how it is, right? It's where the book of Job is really about that. The book of Job is like, you're such a, you're such a, you know, you've been so good. You're such a good guy. How come God's not rewarding you?

Well, basically, the thing about that is, hey, this ain't about God's not a genie that I, it's not a lunch and I rub. He's not a vending machine. If I put in money, I'll get good stuff out. Sometimes you can put it all in and think, but you keep your faith, you keep moving, you keep moving, and you use whatever happens to you. It doesn't, it doesn't bow your head. You just keep moving through the hurricane and you'll come out the other end, right? So what I'm saying is, well, I guess what I'm saying is that there is that idea of, you go through life, you have a contract with life,

but that contract always gets ripped up. It gets mocked. It's like, dude, I did everything right, and my dreams didn't come true. Hey, dude, it's not over yet. This is the biggest lesson of your life. Now, you can either become a better person. I always say your best self, your best version of yourself is clearing his throat

in the other room. And you should always be hearing it. Every time you're fucking up, he's going, hey, over here, you know, we all have that if you're if you're paying attention. So, but again, is that what you're talking about? Where the contract gets ripped up? You know, two books, first rate madness and high-pomantic catch. Yeah. First rate madness. First rate madness. By the way, pull up the book cover, first rate madness.

Look what the cover looks like. And look who's faces it in. Right. Look who the faces of this book are right there. Okay, yeah, that's the one. Look at this. Zoom in a little bit if you could. Okay, right, look at that.

Who are those faces? John F. Kennedy and Remlinking. Okay. And it's one other person. I think the left jaw, the right jaw is LBJ, I don't know who it is, but it's Jackson or LBJ and one of those guys. Okay. And it explains this other book, Hypo Manic Edge,

talks about the elements of bipolar, multi-personality, hypo manic, can't go to sleep, they're non-stop, the brain keeps going, the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr if you say bad things about your mom, there's no winning, right? But that was one of his enemies that nobody knew about. His mom. Yeah, some people are, many of your enemies publicly others can guess. Well, bud Crawford, who I think is the greatest boxer walking the planet, you know, Terrence Crawford, who took Earl Spence and dismantled him. I mean, I just couldn't believe it. I'm a boxing fan. He's a genius.

And his mother, his mother never, ever told him really anything that positive. Because she had to play mother and father. And so no matter what he did, amen, keep going. That was good. Look at Jobs. Jobs's mom gives him up for adoption faster

and then somebody else picks him up or mean and mother picks him up. Wow. And they raise him. His entire life is like you gave me up to somebody else. You think jobs would ever say that's what drove him? You don't think if you if you go hard to top five cycle and people that psychoanalyze him to realize that's what it was. No. The people that drive us at the highest level will typically won't reveal it. Maybe later on in life we'll read, I don't know, if you have your own Elon Musk's recent book, Must Read, Walter Isaacs, oh my god. I love Walter Isaacs.

First of all, it's insane. So it talks about his relationship with the dad and what would happen with him and Kim Bullin, how they drove him and how he took it to a whole different level. No. You need people like that in your life. You need to experience that kind of thing. When did you identify your enemy? When did you identify? It's been the heartbreak.

Well, relationship for sure. It happened with a girl. It happened when I got out of the army. But to me, the one that drove me the most because a girl may only drive you for five to ten years. Some enemies' life lifespan is very short. Maybe six months. I'm about to have a problem wrong.

Okay, we'll give you some shit. That's done. You went to the wedding, you got a six pack, you went to the freaking club party, you look good, everyone's over it. You're not going to be driven again for the next six months. That's a very short-standing, you need a real enemy, a good type of enemy. Certain enemies drive you for 20 years. Those kinds are fricking phenomenal.

Some of them are forever. Some people don't graduate enemy so they stay at the same level. You gotta pick and choose what's gonna get you out. For me, I'm 25 years old. I'm going to a Christmas party with my dad and I'm there with a bunch of Assyrians and I'm a nobody at that time.

Just 20 years ago, I just turned 45 two weeks ago. No one has a clue who I am, but I'm just like a guy making 30 grand or 40 grand here, that's what I'm doing nobody at that time. Just 20 years ago, I just turned 45 two weeks ago. No one has a clue who I am, but I'm just like a guy making 30 grand of your 40 grand here. That's what I'm doing, okay? And I'm broke, 49K just got out of a bad relationship. Three years we're supposed to get married, doesn't work out.

I'm at this party at Glendale, and one guy who's a nobody, sweetheart of a guy, makes one sarcastic comment about my dad. Nothing disrespectful, one sarcastic comment about my dad Nothing disrespectful just sarcastic But he had that look on his face and I saw the look on my dad's face humiliated your dad embarrass your dad. I mean you listen man. I've told this story a couple hundred times I'm there right now. You still get fucking angry. Oh, oh brother I'm there right now. You still get fucking angry.

Oh, oh brother. Yeah, so I come back and I tell my sister, my brother-in-law to come to the house, I said that the world's gonna know how incredible a father you were. I said, I'm gonna work my ass off that when you go into streets, they're gonna stop you and they're gonna tell you all your son

ever talks about his incredible father you are. Wow. Dude, I can't even tell you what that is. So for me, is your father still alive? 81. He was in a hospital five days. He's in a hospital. The guy's doing an angiogram on him. He says, Mr. Beddavit, I know who you are. And I love what your son says about you.

He says, how do you know who I am? He says, you and your son have the same big nose. I recognize that nose from... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It was the bed of... I'm a beddavit. It's the bed of his. I was only nose from. It was the best. I'm like, but David, it's the only one of the guys who would have

a nose like that is your son, right? But they have a laugh and he does a surgery. He's back at home. He's good. But, you know, wow, that's 83. Still very close to him as well. It's a beautiful, it's a privilege. It is. It is.

It's a privilege. It is. We're part of a lot of people. And do you ever feel like you had to gain his approval? Was he hard on you? Or he was more of a lot of people. And did you ever feel like you had to gain his approval? Was he hard on you? Or he was more of a gentler soul? Might that never put a hand, never hit me one time, ever, he never disciplined me. But to him, he was the guy that he says,

never be afraid of the truth. You know, beat people with words and results. Okay, if you're gonna say gonna do something, do it the basic value stuff that he would say. And since six years old, I wanted to be a father, just because I wanted to be a like that. Yeah, he was my hero. Yeah, you said something really interesting.

You said, when you're a young man, you're successful, or even a middle-aged man, and you're successful, there's a tendency because you have access to everything. So why not play the field? Why not be single? Why not have 15 women? Why not do whatever you want and live that snoop dog lifestyle,

whatever it is that people have? And you said, and I couldn't agree more, but I'm an older man. It's like why in the world wouldn't you settle down with one person and have a family? There's nothing better than that, especially because you get to watch your offspring grow, you get to inspire them, set an example.

I always say that the best way to define love is that you have someone in your life who's happiness is more important than your own. I think men need that. I think that's one of the biggest driving factors, is that I don't have time to worry about myself. I got to get out of myself because I gotta put food on the table. I gotta set an example.

And if I do go through some shit, nobody's coming, it's me. It's a beautiful thing. You know, the beautiful thing about love is the way you love a friend will be different than the way you love your wife is gonna be different than the way you love your sibling is gonna be different than the way you love your kid is gonna be different

than the way you love your parents. But to experience all these dimensions of love is a very unique thing. But I have to keep this going. Because you and I were talking before this, you said, you know, here's this laughing about it. You got to stay relevant. You got to keep this going, bro. There's no days off.

Like, what have you posted lately? What are you thinking about? How are you coming up with original shit? Who's the next guest? What's the next topic? How do you, what do you, I think a lot of this is inherent. I think a lot of this comes from your upbringing. It's how you rev, you just rev hard all the time.

But you've got to have days when you just don't want to do this shit anymore. Tell me, what is, for people who have trouble, when they wake up in the morning, and they got all these, all these voices in their head, what's your ritual? What do you say to yourself? Brother, everything comes down to vision. Everything gets vision. Okay. You see it.

What, so most people, their vision is accomplished at 32 years old. They're married, they have kids, they have a house, they have a job, pain, and 80 a year, and that's it. That was the vision, okay. For some people, it's slightly bigger than that, right? And maybe they go to 40. But almost everybody, the vision they had that they were willing to work for, a reality and then they stay there. Very few people have a vision that they won't disclose all of it. They'll disclose some of it, maybe you'll know 80% of it, maybe you'll know 90% of you're not going to know 100% of it because there's something that's driving them on why they're not stopping, right? Okay.

So for me, I don't like what's going on in America. I feel broke. The other day I'm making offer to Tucker Carlson when he was free. This is three months ago, four months ago. I don't like what's going on in America. I feel broke. The other day I'm making offer to Tucker Carlson when he was free. This is three months ago, four months ago, whatever. I'm only going to be closed, $100 million. And he chooses a retweet from Elon Musk over my $100 million. You know what he publicly said?

He says, hey, nice $100 million offer guys, maybe the, you know, by tim or whatever you guys are Elon Musk's retweet is more valuable than a hundred million dollars Why let me explain why If he posts a shawntwitter xx And Elon doesn't retweet it Let's say it gets a million views. Let's say it gets two million views. Let's say it gets five million views. Let's say it gets, 5 million views. Let's say, guess, 10 million views. But if he posts every video on Twitter that he does once a week,

and Elon has agreed to retweet every one of them, what is that word to him? What's the actually price it out? What is worth every one of your episodes that you do on a weekly basis that Elon will retweet one of them? That's 52 retweets a year to the number one account on Twitter with 160 million followers. What does that mean to you?

He posts a clip, 49 million views, 88 million views, 338 million views, 63 million views, 58 million views. Can't be without. But put a price to it, let's put a price tag. What is 52 retweets from Elon Musk worth per year? I mean, put a number. It's well over 100 million. Of course it is. Of course it is. So let me take a hundred million. Let me get a retweet for me.

52 times years. So that moment, I realized how broke I was. That moment I realized, I realized we have to compete. We're not there yet. We have to get clear. We have to make money. So our consulting firm right now is grown exponentially. The consulting firm will be a multi-billion dollar consultant. You're consulting firm teaches people how to sell? No, our consulting firm, hey, you want to raise 50 million dollars, you want us to put a pitch deck together, come through, we'll help you put a pitch deck together. You're having a hard time finding a CFO, you don't know what questions to ask, so hired a right CFO, your last two, didn't work out, you want us to help you find a CFO, we'll help

that. You got an issue going on with your board right now five people Can't agree on anything you guys got a decision got to make on this hey can we come talk you on your business partner Have a 50 50% deal he's been fooling around on the side doesn't come to the office and we says you know If you I'm not giving you the other part out. I don't need to work We never negotiated that you need a mediator. You're trying to change your comp plan in yours It there's so many different things that we'll consult for with these clients. But the consulting firm is going to grow.

We got three products that were right now we're marking. We're going to get to the next one and the next one. I know you'll hear about what happens with that by Davidconsulting.com. But that's that part. The talent acquisition that we're doing and we're breeding talent internally. We have our own way of doing it. That we're excited about. Product development we just recently launched an app

Menect a few months ago. And Menect is now in 42 countries. We've invested a lot of resources into it. And in the last six months, we've had a 100,000 downloads of Menect. And on top of that, 10,000, nearly 10,000 transactions on Menect. And here's what Minnec is.

Six, seven years ago, I'm talking to one of my lawyers. This lawyer, I'm talking to for seven minutes, builds me for 30 minutes. I get pissed, I call them up. I said, bro, this was a seven minute call. What's this 30 minute bill for? This is minutes roll up. I said, not to 30 minutes.

Maybe to 10 minutes, maybe if not 30. He said, I can't do anything. I said, what are you charged by the minute? He says, no lawyer charges by the minute. I said, I can't do anything. I said, what are you charged by the minute? He says, no lawyer charges by the minute. I said, what if there's a platform that I can pay you by the minute? Do you have a minute to connect? Let's minute.

For example, how many DMs do you get? You can't get back to. What if, what if, anybody who's dealt with lawyers, anybody knows, you will get an $80,000 bill. And you'll be like, what the fuck is this? What was that all about? And you don't know, you're know, you don't have a timer.

That's right. You're not doing that. So you're just having a friendly chat. And they're paying somebody 40 bucks an hour to do their charging, you just six hundred bucks. Yeah, what the fuck is this? You know, and then yeah. 600, try LA.

So that's 1100 bucks. So, so Menec, that Menec, the app, we have a product development division. You can, you can, in our middle of the way or off of the app. No, you can talk to, you can be on Menect. Guys want a DMU, you don't respond back, you're hard to get a hold of your busy. On Menect, they'll DM you, but you

could say, I'll respond back, but it's a hundred bucks of response. So it's a hundred bucks, you respond back in text. If they want to text you and they want to respond in a video, you can charge whatever, 200 bucks, and you respond back in a video. If they want to have a 15 minute FaceTime with you, could say I'll do 15 minutes for a thousand bucks. Okay, and people will do that with you, and the time goes by on the bottom.

I wanna buy another 15. And you'll be amazed what things people wanna talk to you about. So we got influencers making 10, 20, $50,000 a month on Menec. So that Menec side is so many people right now are running a non-profit consulting firm. Menec allows everybody a youtuber uh... a jujitsu guy a ufc guy uh... low-year a private equity guy a therapist to start a business with consulting

consulting right now is a trillion dollar your industry one trillion dollars a year is being spent on consulting right now this is why the mccincy in these companies are so powerful but yeah we we want to our holding company we want to be formidable we want to compete we want to buy franchises we want to build one of the most formidable media companies in the world in the next 10, 20 years. So that's what we're excited about. I'm so excited. And I'm just going to say, I'm not going to take too much of your time, we're going to get out of here because I know you got back to back. But it just feels like you're going to eventually run for

office. I said it out loud. I had to, I had to, I had to make the announcement here. I just feel like in Patrick Bed David's head, there is a political speech coming and he's gonna take it to the country. You see how quiet he is? That's all I'm gonna say. So choose your enemies wisely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Choose your enemies wisely. You know, I'm not born here. I'm not born here. I know, you can't be present. No, and I'm not interested to be a kingmaker. That's exactly what I'm going to be. You're going to be a very good one though. Very good one. Make sure to about that. Brother, you're set to good guy. You haven't changed even a little bit since when I met you. And I've never heard anybody say a bad word about you. Especially people that work for you.

I appreciate you. They love you to death. Thank you. And you're a good man. And the book is choose your name. And you're going to be a kingmaker. That's exactly what I'm going to be. You're going to be a very good one though. Very good one. anybody say a bad word about you, especially people that work for you.

I appreciate it. They love you to death. Thank you. And you're a good man and the book is Choose Your Animes Wisely and you hit me today with something that at 56 years old, give me a second because I look a lot younger. Well, this is my face is so tight. But that I have not heard, which is you need somebody in your life who breaks your heart And I mean that's a forever thing so that's that's incredible. So I thank you, bro I appreciate you in the world a better place. Thank you. Yeah, man. It's great dude. Mom man