The Fighter & The Kid - Rogan Group Chat & Sydney Sweeney Chaos | TFATK Ep. 1139

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen unpack what really happens inside the Joe Rogan group chat, the Sydney Sweeney backlash, and why modern culture keeps getting softer. They dive into Bo Nickal���s upcoming fight, wrestling vs. jiu-jitsu, the fall of discipline, and how to raise strong kids in a weak world. Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkDraftKings - Download the DraftKings Pick6 app now and use code FIGHTER.BRUNT - Our listeners get $10 off their entire order with code Fighter at checkout. That’s http://bruntworkwear.com/fighter and use code Fighter. Rugiet - Visit http://rugiet.com/fighter to get 15% off your first orderO’Reilly Auto Parts - http://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERTrue Classic - True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/fighter ! #trueclassicpodMagic Mind - https://magicmind.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Yes, we did, because we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. What's all, buddy? We back. We back. Babop, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

Nick sent me a video of, I wanted just a shout out to, I can't remember the guy's name, who sent me a Venmo for $100. Why? And the caption said, for watching your special. And it was very funny. Fucking asshole asked me for a hundred dollars. David Ruiz, maybe, I don't know, shout out to David Ruiz. Wait, he sent you a hundred or asked you to send him on?

No, he asked, he had a request of a hundred dollars. It was a hundred dollars for watching your special. I'm like, you fucking piece of shit. That was so funny. How about Rogan and you? How about Rogan and you? You guys should just know. Like, I've been laughing.

I laughed at that for a day. I don't know why. I sent, so my buddy, Dan Halloway. Well, hold on. We have a group chat. It's me, Rogan, Eddie, and Brian. Yeah. And we just send bullshit on their silly stuff, fight stuff.

Yeah. And so. Brian posts this heartfelt. You guys should really take a moment and read this. It's Veterans Day. And then clearly just screenshot and then added the caption. But when you're with friends, like, it was so lame. But let me tell you what I wrote.

But listen to what I wrote. Yeah, go ahead. So it's Veterans Day. And my buddy. Dan Halloway, he's really thoughtful guy, writes sort of an essay called American Warfighter. And it's, and, you know, he talks about

how Americans have always gone to war for an ideal and an idea, not for treasure, not for it to conquer land. Send us what you said. So I say, I just, I attached the article. Well, hold on, to put context. It's the morning. It's the morning.

It's early. It's early, but, you know, I get up super early. I had my coffee. Well, hold on. Before this, I sent this, uh, it's Donald Trump's on his Ferrari F430, I think. And I put Callan, because Callan's having troubles with his Tesla. I go, Callan, you down to buy Trump's Ferrari?

Yeah. And then you respond, my, I do have a birthday coming up, Rogan, if this would be a good gift. So it's all silly. Yes. And then Brian sends this. So I go, I just write this first thing in the morning to Joe Rogan, to Brennan shop, to Eddie Bravo. Knowing the meaningful difference between things, not the similarities is the mark of wisdom. This is a good essay on America as an idea versus all the other reasons nations have gone to war.

Dan Holloway wrote this. He's excellent. And I attached the article. And then right up to that. I just get, I just get, I just get, hey man, shut up. And then Rogan goes, gay. And then the next text from Rogan is text one more thing like that and I'll block your number. That is the best.

And then you, Schaub follows up with, you've ruined my morning, Call. i mean talk about clipping my wish i like had my copy i'm like i sent that out to my boys i look and i'm like oh my god that's so just annihilated just annihilated dude but said one more thing like can i'm blocking your number like like when your friend 30 years you said i just put ah shut up dude it's just not the place oh you shut it hey man shut the fuck up but do you just say it playing playfully or you're no he was dead serious no he was i mean i was i was playing i robin's playing it had no business being it had no business being they're all playing but it's just so funny

like that's how guys fuck with each other like shut up shut up cut the fuck up text one more thing like this and i'll block your number that's my favorite he's so funny sometimes yeah that was so i was so aggressive but all of us were aggressive all of you you ruined my day count it in the green room to Shane and to Shane Gillis and were laughing they were laughing it was so funny he probably laughing because Shane was like why would you do that I was like I don't know just had coffee he's like I get it yeah um send it's to save somebody else bad it was so fun um yeah are you on the road this weekend I'm on the road this weekend I did some jujitsu to this morning with William Tackett of the Tackett twins they're in the U.S.

for jujitsu they're uh oh they're in the yeah those are those they're killers and i wish it was a complete waste of their time in yours it was a complete waste of his time i was trying to work on a guillotine and a couple of other chokes and doing it there he is and not doing them well i'm not doing them well he was demonstrating and uh well about ripped my neck off he didn't he could have but it was interesting so yeah yeah attack it twins little monsters Little monsters, yeah, really nutty fucking... What's good they took time other day to roll with you.

Yeah, he'll take guys, it's like a wish. He takes guys on Wednesday, and he just rolls with guys. Yeah, he takes retards. And then he'll teach you shit. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No.

He's such a high level? My wrestling, my jituts is getting scary. It's getting scary. I was on top of... Were that art type? Yeah, it's all these guys who teach. They're all these, like, black belts. And I was on top of Shane, who just absolutely fucking Mollywops me.

and I got he was just going through moves and I got on top of Shane and I looked at the tag and said I look at the other guys and I go I go I go guys my grab my top game is harrowing it's my top pressure is harrowing they're laughing harrowing I go yeah it's harrowing and if you guys want to line up do a little round robin and I fucking clench and Shane just goes he he he got me out of it yeah yeah was at that correct Jim which is formerly known as the audit gym. I was at that correct gym. Like, man, why don't you come in?

Tim was in here and Calh was in here. Why don't you come in and go with the boys? No, I'm a lone wolf when it comes to working out. I said, I just get to work, man. It's like my time. I don't fuck around. You're going to roll with the guys that are at Shark Tank and stuff, right? What was that place called?

Six Blade? Yeah, it's another place, I think, too, yeah. I don't know Shark Tank. Maybe it's Six Blade. But those are the guys, right? You can go over there. Yeah, but especially if I'm going to work out, I just like to do my own thing.

I don't you're so big I don't know how you're gonna you even if you went to the even if you went to 10th planet those guys are really not that big a lot of those guys six blades there's big boys big boys yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you need the big boys to get a workout in I'd imagine no matter what how you're doing it huh you can get a workout yeah yeah yeah better to have like a heavy weight though right strength there's a ton of big dudes at six way it's not an issue yeah there's a ton of big dudes good dudes yeah really good dudes you just don't give a fuck huh you did it for so long do you miss it at all no i mean i had fun rolling um if there's like a mission i'm down but i've kind of did it i don't yeah yeah i know what you mean about that yeah if there's if there's some purpose like if it's competing or there's a competition coming up right but to just keep doing it's but you can't just lift weight yeah i was thinking about that there's this sort of diminishing return so you got to figure out what you're doing it's good to get a workout in but you can get workouts other ways you can't you know my biggest thing's not getting injured i'm not trying to fucking get fucked up yeah it's really that's very easy to do

if you're rolling that's why rogan doesn't do juice anymore yeah you kept getting injured yeah especially if you're going full somebody you know it's very even if you're not even if you're just going through it's just it's fucking you know you're fucked up yeah it's like boxing you can get in there and spar you're gonna get hit even if you're going light you're gonna get boxing's a complete waste of it's just you're gonna get caught you know

have you done like a like a dedicated weightlifting thing instead of doing it like what you do I do everything I do imams I do weightlifting I do it all I do a bunch of shit like I'll just do sometimes I'll fucking torture myself with that aeron bike which is a nightmare but I mean you want to get big, right? No, I know. I'm not going to get. There's no way I would get big without changing my endocrine system and I'm never going to get big. But I, there's no way a guy at my age is going to put

on muscle. Honestly, even if you eat a lot and lift weights, you got to, you got to be on some shit. Also for what? Like, you can complete change your lifestyle to put on mass. All the guys I know who are my age, who are doing stuff and younger, they're all doing stuff. They all looked at me and they were like, look, you have a lot of energy and you, I want to fuck with it. Yeah, they were like you have a lot of energy and you move pretty well that if you do it you're going to have to keep doing it and they all told me not to do it they're like you don't have to keep doing it that's a false narrative but you just you don't want to there's no reason because just you being big i know we joke about but that's just not in the cards for you that's like me want to be 170 pounds it's never

going to happen no exactly exactly i my i think it's never been big i just i just like for what yeah i just like having energy yeah i feel like my energy's fucked or whatever you know but As long as I have this energy and I can still get it up, you know? Yeah, as long as that wiener works. Yeah, and I feel like I have, like, I still have a lot of energy. And I see a lot of dudes my age who don't, right? Like, I see a lot of guys. I don't know any other 58-year-olds.

If I'm sleeping, if I'm sleeping well. And I'm not a drinker. I just, I have a lot of fucking energy, you know. I'll tell you what, T, T's fine. He has a straight black guy right now. but they're going to wrestling and bossy learned that some kids are different this kid's six and he's just aggressive as fuck dude he's so aggressive and it was driving me nuts really because bossy's a nice kid he's super competitive he's a nice kid how is he he'll be six in november but

and so this kid's already six maybe turning somebody and he's a beefier kid yeah but you know bossy's more athletic than this kid this kid's just fucking aggressive man and they're you know they They teach them get their head and, you know, collar tied. The kid's, like, rammed his head into Bosti, push him against the mat. I'm like, oh, yeah, what's going on here, man? Keeps doing Bosti, like, dude, get off. I can see Bosse yell at him. And the coaches, it's not their fault.

They're great. There's whatever, 30 kids in there. They can't just focus on that. Obviously, I'm focused on Bosti. And the mom's next to me, and he keeps doing it. And then they're just drilling. So Bosti gets two takedowns. That kid gets two takedowns.

That kid would get a takedown and then jump on top of Bosti and pin his arms down, not let him up. I was like, man, how long do I let this go before I fucking intervene? I'm like, I'll let him figure it out. Kept going, kept going. Kid's headbutton, Boston. I'm like, all right, fuck. I go, Basti, get over here. I go, get over here. And this day, I was like, you're right.

I'm like, I'm fine. I go, boss, come here, come here. So that kid's going to keep coming at you, dude. He's super aggressive, right? I know you're having fun. That kid's not. That kid's not playing around. And this is at Lake Travis, you know, it's a pretty welcome environment. But, dude, when it's my kid, I'm like, dude, so that kid keeps getting aggressive, this way. And on his parents, everyone's watching, I go, when he comes in, he keeps coming aggressive,

I want you to fucking take that horse collar, get behind the neck, and slam his fucking face to the mat. Every time, dude, until he stops coming at you. Otherwise, this can be all night, dude. We have an hour left. So when he comes out, you just let him keep coming and you fucking slam him down the mat. Fed, Matt, that's all you got to do. So I go, do it on me. So I'm teaching him back and forth.

And I go, now go, dude. Now go. But the kids saw us and chilled out, you know. But it was driving me nuts, man. I'm like, no one's going to say nothing. Do I let it keep going? You're like, what do you do? Do you let it keep going?

No, no, no, save that for your home. No, no, no, we're here to get working. You know what I'm saying? Like, we ought to get reps in. If you want a rough house, go do it with your brothers at home. When kids are five and six, nobody's paying attention. Like, it's like, hmm, they're just doing, they're doing their thing. It's enough that they're even doing it.

A lot of times, Not where I come from. No, no, no. If it's an organized thing, and don't get me wrong, there's kids like that. There's kids like that. Yeah, they're five. They're six. They're five, six.

There's kids like that. Most are like that. And it's fine. Again, not where I come from. What do you mean now where you come from? What are you talking about? Even when I was five, like, I wasn't mess around in the dugout. I wasn't mess around on the field, you know?

Like, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they got to be fucking Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant killers. But if it's an hour, you pay attention. you do what you're there supposed to do then after you want to play do your thing but when you're there and it's a dedicated time if you're going to learn you got you got to learn you know what I'm saying and he's doing it like in baseball he takes so serious all the kids be jumping on the fucking dug out throwing gloves not bosty watching the game zeroed in you know but he can mess around but my thing is if you're going to dedicate to that and you got to teach him at a young age

that's where he gets it yeah let's take a little break here because I like watching sports. I like watching fighting. I like watching football. I like watching the NBA. Imagine if you made money on all that, dude. That's the thing. You have UFC 322 this fricking Saturday, Mass Square Garden. You also got the NBA season popping. And Draft King's newest game, pick six is the easiest way to play for your shot. But I'm a new customer. Big wins. So can I get $50 in pick six credits? Dude, here's how it works. If you just shut your little trap. Yeah. Just pick more or less on two or more player stats. The better your picks, the bigger your payout. So know your picks tonight if you want. And don't.

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So it depends. But, yeah, I mean, you can't have them fucking around because they're going to fuck around. so you have to laugh they're good they're good a lesson that's what i'm saying like when you're here dude i just need an hour yeah i see an hour yeah and some kids and then there is that that thing where a kid's kind of feeling his oats and he's kind of you know using his head and stuff like that i was like and the thing about that is yeah the thing about that is that a daggie it's not fun for your kid then the kid doesn't want to you know you got it you got nailed on the head because and then tiger was like dad you're so upset and like in the kid boss who's walking front i go because

if that kid keeps doing that to Bosti, he's not going to enjoy wrestling. He's going to avoid it. He's going to stop before it even begins. That's right. That's the problem. That's right. Like there's a way to mess around. But that's why you need, that's why supervision is really important at that age.

But it's tough for the coaches too, right? Because you have kids from, you have kids from five to 12 in there. And there's 30 kids. Yeah. You know, there's, what was that? 15 groups. So it's tough to, it's not, there's a bunch of money or that. Yeah.

It's tough. No, but I think what I'm really on board with is sports and that kind of thing because it's just, I think it's really important. I just think it's really important for kids to negotiate that space, all of that stuff. That's part of it, by the way. That's part of it. That's part of it right there, like dad telling me like snap him down. That's a story he can tell. You know?

And the only way you learn is that too. All of a sudden, it's not, you know, what the hell? And then you're just like, oh, let me do that. And that's what I told me. I'm going to give you a tool to combat that. This won't be the first time you run into this. That's how you get better. So you probably learn that whatever a year from now.

Just because you're going to learn it today. Yep. I love that. I'm a huge, huge proponent of sports for kids. And I think it's, I think that kind of stuff is great too at five and six getting in there. Yeah. Learning your body. Yeah.

And learning social cues. That boy's got to learn. That boy's got to learn. Correct. hey hey hey you know because what's going to happen is we're going to put you with the 8 year old and then you're going to try that with him and he's going to toss you around what's going to happen is boss he goes uh big brother big brother across the across the math there big brother i'm having a problem and he goes i'll be your huckleberry and then you got a problem on your hands because

that's where this goes the big boy yeah yeah he's and he's a natural where his giant wrists is he yeah he loves it like yes his his neck and traps it's his fucking hands dude but then yesterday because we're all in on football right now because they have that big national tournament Saturday so we're constantly drilling football and he's running with his buddy and this other coach all day they're with us since they get home from school they're doing routes routes routes we're learning concepts and it's the practice is at 545 and we're going to 510 in my head I'm like he's been running non fucking stop anybody else but I'm so you know kids don't get tired and I'm like I'm going to give him the day off because we have another practice today

and I'm going to give a day off, and I go, T, dude, you've ran so many routes, dude, you're good, man. So you want to skip wrestling night and we'll just, we'll drill some at home? He goes, what? No. He's he hell, no, I've been looking forward to wrestling all day. Oh, my God. And when he says that, I'm like, all right, let's go.

That's great. Yeah, he loves it. Really? Yeah, he just loves it. Oh, that's great. He loves it. Because that's pretty rare, because kids just naturally want to just chill. Chill.

I want to watch my show on YouTube. I want to have my popsicles. Yeah, 100%. But the best, yeah, 100%. But the best thing is, Bossy too he probably wanted to chill but when he heard his big brother's like hell no we're going then bossy's like I'm in my thing is that never goes away like working out like like do you think I really want to do I part of the reason I do jihitsu is because it's just hard I just want to I

I just want to work out it'll just get me awake I'm just like today I was I didn't feel like doing anything yeah I didn't feel good I was like heavy and it knew you know you just get in there you start moving the frame around the other thing about being 58 dude is It takes daddy a little time, a lot of the mornings, to get the old frame and engine are going. Jing, it's an old lawnmower. Zing! Ah, fuck. The old daddy's going to get on the old fucking bike.

You got to get some. Then I got to do my stupid stretches. Then I'll do a little e-mom. I'll do a little exercise. And then I'll do some. Warm it up's good, though. You got, I have to. In wrestling, the warm-up, you know, in wrestling practice, the warm-ups like,

half the practice we're doing cartwheels if you see the russians they do that shit they're pedantic about that's what he's doing he's like dad the only thing i don't really enjoy is the warm up and he's like you don't warm up you told us you don't warm up and i go baba you don't want to be like me i was like don't listen to me when it comes so i saw you spar full i saw you do two stretches you did half a lunge half a lunge you reached and then you went in there and went full beat the shit like i though but also So you're in the line warm up, but I tell T and Bossi all the time. You did beat the shit out of him.

I was like, don't listen to me with that. When it comes to technique, that's up with fighting, wrestling. I'm your guy. Warming up and doing what everybody else is doing, listen to the coaches. Don't listen to me, man, right? But even last night at practice, they're doing these snap down, some other shit. And Bossi's position was off and drives me nuts because he's so young. Like, I want him to learn it right.

otherwise it develops bad tendencies. So I kept going, boss, you got it. You got it. And the coach comes over and goes, if you don't get your big ass over there and show them how to do it, man, I'm going to freak out. You probably know more wrestling than anybody in this goddamn room. I said, I can go over there.

He goes, yes, took off my shoes right. I'm like, boss, look, dude. That's huge. But you should be. You should be there with all the kids. Yeah, but you don't, and I love it. But you don't want to. Why?

That's really important. Yeah, yeah. I loved it. You kind of earned it. Bossy loved it too. Yeah. Plus the other kid gets dope reps as well. Yeah, dude, the difference in everything like that.

So, like, when John Donahir teaches, right, I was talking to one of his students, bro, they go over. The reason that Gordon Ryan doesn't have any holes in this game is because they'll spend three months perfecting the, like, the minutiae of the, now you have to have a lot of patience with that. Or jihita? Oh, my God, or just wrestling, like the difference in the details, like those little details.

Where's your elbow, what grip works, all that shit. And usually, especially from what I've seen, like when Tigers did jih jih Tijuana, forever. Bossy's in it, right? A lot of those times, because they want to make it fun for the kids, but Jesus too takes a long time before it should be fun. Fuck. Before kids, they kind of, you know, with their attention span, they got to get going fast. Yes.

My issue is when they go from A to fucking S. I'm like, well, you're missing, well, but you're missing all this in between. That's, like, this dad asked me, he's like, man, my son, like, I'm trying to figure out what to do with them, like he's aggressive. I want to put them in Jitsu, I put them in wrestling. And there's been this big boom in Jiu-Jitsu, especially in the last 10 years, like, you know, thanks to Eddie Bravo, all these people. But Jitsu's big.

But if you had to pick one base for a kid to have instant fun and do something that's natural to them, it's wrestling. 100%. It's wrestling because there's technique, obviously, but a lot of it's pretty familiar if they have brothers, like a lot of the rough housing stuff like. And then you teach them like, all right, you just can put your hand in here here. It's just also a great base for anything. Oh, it's the best.

Yeah. Because think about it, UFC, look at all the champions. Most of them are wrestling background. In the streets, what are you going to, you're going to kickbox? You know, box? No, no, it's tight quarters, so let's go ahead and take them down. Yes. It's like, it's literally the best thing.

And as far as tough, like work ethic, like there's, that's what I was telling Tiger, like there's nothing better than wrestling as far as your mental game, especially for baseball or football. In Jiu-2, if I'm tired, I can pull guard, I can wrap you up. I can kind of get my rest. In wrestling, if you go backwards, no, no, no, no, then you have to engage. Yes. You're going to get your rest, maybe you got to get a, you know?

Like, there's no, there's no, there's no, and that's why I love it. That's no, no, there's, boxing and wrestling. There's no easy way out. There's no easy way. Which I fucking love for kids. This is a scramble. Here's a scramble. There's a scramble.

It's always a scramble. And I'm, I, I wonder why wrestling, it's, don't get me wrong, in certain states, it's big. In Texas, there's some good wrestling here in California. There's some really good wrestling. Farming, farming places? Yeah, but I just don't understand, like, where did the disconnect come from? Because wrestling should be so big here as a foundation.

Americans are so good at wrestling. I tell why. Hey, hear me out. It's cheap. Yeah. What do I need? Pairs shoes? Cool.

Peer shoes Another kid Yep Do I need a field Now you can Kind of do it anywhere You know There's no ghee involved

The price isn't expensive For you though It's tough No it's the reason it's not Is because If you think about Where wrestling's big It's long winters

And winter is It's an indoor sport You don't be outside Right So when you got like Texas And is that People want to be outside Playing ball

They want to be playing ball No I'm not I'm not saying As big as baseball football But then why is this big boom? Because jitsu, you've got to be inside too. But so if you look at Iowa, you look at Nebraska.

You look at the places. Ohio. Yeah, you look at, then you look at Russia. These are long winters. And in the long winter as a farmer or whatever you're doing, you don't have, there are no, there are animals to tend to, but your crops and stuff, you, you have a lot of time. There's like, you're inside. You have to be inside.

You're not playing things outside, really. There's, especially in areas. like think about it where there are no mountains so there's no skiing or any of that shit you got flat terrain nothing to do you got nothing to do you ain't playing football at 30 below but you're going to wrestle inside what why did jihitsu is just better marketing more stars i think jiu jitsu because in brazil brazil brazi was a genius this this incredible innovator no i get all that but i'm saying i'm saying but i'm saying but why the recent the recent last 10 years is boomed i know why it's more expensive than wrestling no i know i know it takes

It's more time to have fun. It's more expensive. And with all due respect, it isn't as tough. And what I mean by it? What's not as tough? So, Jiu-Jitsu, meaning. Anybody can do it. Yeah.

Wrestling, man, I promise you, you're going to get marked up. You're going to get, you're shooting singles and doubles. You're on your back. It's just, and it's explosive. It's explosive. With Jiu-Jitsu, you can start to learn how to do gently an arm bar, a triangle from your back. You can learn sweet. You're not going to half-ass a single leg. You can, it's really easy to teach. Kids aren't getting injured. Kids, it's, it's something girls and boys can do together.

Wrestling is a different beast, man. It just is. It's a different gear. It just is. There's no way to do wrestling without training hard, you're sucking weight. It's just different. It's a different mentality. It really is. Yeah, you're right. You're not going to, you can't be a passive wrestling. So that's why more people are drawn to Jiu-Jitsu? Yeah, it's just, I'm sorry, but it's a little bit like the difference between taekwondo or karate and Krav Maga and boxing. With boxing, if you really want to learn how to box, you have to get in a ring with a mouthpiece and headgear. You're going to get hit. You're going to get hit in the fucking head.

And learning how to avoid that, learning how to put your hand on somebody's fucking grill when they're moving is so fucking hard. And the only way to do it, to get good at it is to do it wrong for a long time and get hit. yeah and nobody wants to get hit because when you get hit your jaw you have no it's a kid getting hit no it's that no it's a literally a different it's it's it's it's borderline not even a sport like it's a sport but it's it's fighting it's what ufc's not a sport no it's fighting and fighting if you want to get good at fighting whether it's boxing i put moitai i put boxing i put i put uh i put k1 kickboxing and i put I, yeah, those, and MMA, of course,

those are what I call fighting. And they really do border on a different thing than sport. They're different. Right? Because you're getting your head kicked in. You're getting, there's always a possibility

when you go training, you want to get good. There are big consequences. In the loss, you know, in baseball, whatever, you can live to fight.

In fighting, the consequences are so heavy. And even wrestling, even wrestling, I put a little, I put below striking. For sure. It's very hard on your body.

But, You're going to be fine. You're going to have a knee issue, maybe, but you're not going to have this head trauma. No. Your ears are going to be messed up. It's not going to be the same. It's a sport.

It's a great sport, but it's a fucking tough sport. Yeah, that's probably, and I would equate it with football, actually, because don't kid yourself. Football is also, football's really fucking hard.

Football's tough. It's hard on you. And if you're not billed for it, and even if you aren't built for it. And maybe with, you know, society's going to a little softer direction, so not as many people. No, it's just you can make more money.

Would you did you make more money, right? None of them are making a ton of money But I see your point There's more of a business Yeah you can stay with it longer But as far as just like If you look at the way society Like men's testosterone's way down

From the 80s So and it's not a knock on anything It's just shit There's a million variables But testosterone is down amongst men So society's softer So that's we see less kids playing tackle football Like everyone wants to play flag football

Which drives me fucking nuts So there's less signups at football there's less, man, I thought all the great athletes can do MMA, it's too tough, too male testosterone driven, that's down. And then overall, in the last 20 years, I don't know what wrestling signups look like, but I assume it's down if football and this other tough shit's down. So it's just the evolution of this soft society.

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order today let them know you heard it here on the show It helps us. And there are belts in jiu-tizu, and kids love belts. People love belts. The popularity of wrestling is increasing, you idiot, particularly in high school sports due to record. Women too, girls. Yeah.

Driven by rapid growth of girls wrestling while boys' partitions have been at the levels not seen in years. The overall surge is primarily fueled by an explosive increase in female athletes when you get a fast-grown high school sport for girls. Yeah. You know whose daughter's a badass wrestler? Lex. Lex?

Yeah. She gets like, she gets like scholarship offers. Wow. Yeah, she's a real badass. Damn. Overall growth, total high school wrestling participants. That's wild. Reach a record high for the first time in years.

That's amazing. Wow. Fastest growing sport in high school, wow. That's wild. Boys wrestling participation has rebounded in 2014 and 2015 levels. So NCAA added women's wrestling. That's really wild. Wait, hold on.

While high school participation is strong indicator, some sort suggests that overall professional wrestling attendants may not have returned to its mid-20th century highs, but it's still not declining. And then add this, what is this? Google? Yeah, some cuck shit. Other forms such as Brazilian jitsu are also experienced growth.

That's our point, man. Remember also, even though it's increasing, wrestling is still, it was always still the step child. To what? Football players, basketball players, baseball players, they get the attention. Wrestling will always be sort of the red-headed stepchild. You know, it'll always be the sport that could, you know.

Because there's nowhere to go. Yeah. It's like your daughter doing cheerleading? It's like... You saw a fox catcher? Oh, yeah. And you got the Schultz brothers, fucking gold medalists and everything else and, you know, not making any money.

You can coach. It's tough. But to your point, the value of... being a D1 wrestler is when you can go through a four-year D-1 program, you understand what work ethic is and you understand how to accomplish something. And you're not afraid. Everything's easy after that. Life is a lot easier after that.

Oh, man, some of the biggest richest dudes I know all have high-level wrestling background. Isn't that crazy? High-level wrestling background. Yeah, they crush it. If I found a big company and I'm looking at a resume and he wrestled, I'd absolutely hire that kid. Because you know the work ethics can be fucking natsos. that's it you know it's it's it's it's it's one of those things that just fucking it's a good go

go tell a tough wrestler are you sure you don't need a mental day off you know NBA players like it'd be like why is he out of the game it's a mental rest day so the fuck is that do they have that yeah yeah there's guys who have taken those oh yeah you think Kobe would ever do that Michael Jordan would ever do that I mean that's adorable that's what we're living in that's adorable Simone Biles misses the Olympic because mental rest day it's once every four years bitch you bet you gotta get that leotard on and fucking do some flips did she do that yeah yeah blamed on that it's just a different we're in a different culture we go out's a wrestler that's wrestler there's the toughest people

i've ever met hands down hands down yeah i mean you got kabib you guys there's so much there's so so many positive traits yeah And then also the culture of not showboating, like, it's just, it's just a, it's also the oldest fucking form of sports. That's right. Are you sorry you didn't wrestle, football was your thing? No, I'm good. But remember, I wrestle high level for nine years.

It's a lot of time. University of Northern Colorado, three times a week. That's a lot of time. And I was with the team. Really? Yeah. So over nine years, how many practices did that? High level, man.

Great coaches. Least are bowling. Yeah, great coaches. coaches just in gaitchie was still in college when i met him really wrestling yeah really yeah we drive up to greeley and wrestle with the team wow they're just tough fucking dudes is that how you met justin because he was a wrestler yeah that i met him yeah and then he was like fuck wrestling i just want to knock dudes out like whatever you want to do man that was a d1 program right oh yeah yeah gaitch was all-american and were you doing that in

conjunction with jujitsu yep yeah yep those two three times a week and then jitzu boxing sparring just a full-time gig i don't know how you did it it was your job though yeah i guess you just like in a day yeah you're just driving all over but did you hate sparring no especially about dead no i mean i got nervous but i didn't hate yeah you got nervous yeah and most people want to spar yeah and how often would those sparring sessions be as hard as I saw twice a week they're that hard twice a week for 10 years twice week that hard sometimes we go three times a week that's just it ruins your day though we just didn't know any better fuck man it ruins yeah I mean Shane would sit in our cars and just sit there because we didn't know how to get home are you serious yeah your fucking heads would be yeah are you serious

yeah or are we talking like man you want to go to something to eat we got meet you at jupoli and we both be sitting there and then we'd start laughing because we didn't you know we're Like, where the fuck's DuPoleta at? Dude. Yeah. Meathead shit, man. Yeah. Dude.

I mean, I don't think people know how big Shane was. They do. They do. They do. Fuck, I've never seen anything like. People have all the sport, too. His arms were so long, too. Everything, he's a freak.

And you guys would get in there and bang it out. You just put gloves on. Oh, man, would we ever, yeah. And just started. We just didn't know any better. And you just catching shots. Oh, yeah. So by the time you're in there with somebody else, you were like, eh.

Yeah, whoever they gave him. I'm like, it's not Shane, you know. It can go pretty well. It's not Shane. Jesus Christ. Those are good days, man. Were they? Yeah.

Yeah, great days. Great time. I remember I called my girlfriend at the time because I found this dope wrestling school with Warren. I forget his, I forget his, Warren, but he was an Olympian wrestler, and he opened up a school. And it was, like, 45 minutes from me. He had night classes at 9 o'clock at night. it's called rhinos I'm gonna break out my girlfriend

because I'm like I'm gonna be gone from literally the moment I wake up till 11 o'clock at night now this new wrestling gym opened up I mean I'm have no time for you I have no time for you

I have to roll with guys and learn this fucking art and that's where I'd wrestle with King Mo all these Olympians God damn damn how long to take you to get to deal with those Olympians

a while now now it's now don't get to us if it's straight wrestling there was this guy who was a he was all-American he was a starter on harvard and he was small he's like 140 pounds and he used to fuck the big guys up if it was straight wrestling really oh yeah just hard to deal with just oh they was a nightmare so fast nightmare god but then also wrestling like remember too like we would do the straight wrestling classes and you'd pick it up it's good and all that But a lot of that doesn't translate straight to MMA. So you'd have to kind of figure it out how it could translate, you know? That's where Leicester came in.

Oh, really? Yeah. He was good at making the transition. He was good at being like, you do this in a fight and get knocked out. You do this in a fight and you get knocked a knee. Really? Yeah. How did he learn that?

He grew up wrestling, right? His dad was a wrestler. He was a wrestler. I mean, monster family. Yeah. Like whole legacy of wrestling. His son's wrestling. But how did he know to translate that from wrestling to getting knocked?

out he just knows because i think he fought once but he trained a lot he's always around it so he knew certain things that would work and certain things that well that's why all our take down defense was ridiculous yeah that's the case with jiu jitsu and stuff like that like if you see competition jiu jitsu and you're going to your back with guillotine is that it's very easy for knee bars stuff and you get knocked the fuck out yes yeah it's just different game different game but but anti-restle like take down defense is much easier to pick up on than actual offense so like Alex pierre's take down defense is good right um chuckled well chuckledo was a wrestler but if you look at other like izzie's takedown wrestling pretty good yeah that's ways are learning

it's easy to apply to your game than being an offensive wrestler that takes a long long time well that's why i want to see this maca jeff thing i wonder if it's possible to get mocked jeff like to stop him from closing his arms around your body no he again that's not the fight that's going to happen they're expected you're going to get taken down It's about the, once you get to the mat, he's standing up and getting Makhchev tired. So he's still going to be coming forward and getting you down. But if J.D.M can, and he's going to be in sane shape, I bet. If he can keep stand up, keep stand up, and Mokchev keep slowing down, slowing down.

And then he's forced to strike with him for a minute, two minutes. JDM, as much as an advantage Mokchev has on the ground, Jadim has on the feet. So if that, if that shoot, because he's not, he's not fucking Marabh, Mokchev will slow down. So if you can get him to start slowing down, no. You can him to start. He's not like explosive like Maraub. So if he can get that to slow down a little bit and then he's shooting from further out and you're picking up and forcing him to strike, now you're talking.

It's a different thing too. It's like a different size. This is a different consideration in a lot of ways. A lot. You know? Because J.D.M.'s how big is he? He's pretty tall. Bring him up. He's a big boy.

They did like a lame face off yesterday in front of New York skyline. it's hard it's dark and he has a puffy jack on so he can't really tell there's a thing soft well makachev's no he's not small i mean it's it's really he's really is his 170 pounder anyway okay man jack has no nose he has no nose yeah they call him flat nose jack but um could because they've added a little more to it can we get some professional Even if you get some lighting, guys? Did my mom shoot this? Folly, can get him from the skyscraper for a pick real quick?

What the fuck is this? Can we dress up for the face off? Why is Mokchev not have his belt? I don't know. Jadiam kept saying, look, someone asked him a question. What's going to happen with you, Mokachev? Jadiam's like, he's just too small. But then when you look at Mokachev, they say he's too small?

Jada Mek kept saying that he's just too small. Like, he'll win the fight. He's just too small. But when you look at him together, he's saying Mokachev's too small. okay yeah well uh let's see how you feel when he grips you and then that's this is the thing that's been going around too well you can't tell there muscular yeah yeah you can't tell but he's he's a pretty big dude yeah yeah he's not like small like he's a big 55 or so yeah and he's 70's a different animal though he's a different animal he's he's very strong right so jack is 511 my size

Not that tall. For 170, that's good, man. $1.5.11? Yeah. Well, Neil Magny's like 6'3. Some of these guys are way bigger. Neil Maggi is an outlier, though. Our boy, our boy,

fucking Machado Gary. 510, 511. No, Machado's like 6'3. No, it's Machete. Yeah. But those are all outliers, B. The majority of people with this size. Yeah.

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that's rugit r ug iet dot com slash fighter make ed a memory use the code fighter and uh let's go i think ufc's really waiting to see what happens with islam and jdium for they make any big moves. What are the betting odds on that? Islam's a pretty heavy favorite. Yeah. What is? J.D.M. just started as a strict striker, right? Yeah, he's a stud, man. But you'll be careful with the betting odds, too, because they want movement. Also, it's who's more popular. Islam's, like, J.D.M really, like, there's no, like, notice, there's not a ton of, unless you're a hardcore, which we can't wait to see this fight. Yeah. But there's no, like, shit talker big time marketable guy on this card

fight wise for me is probably best card of the year as far as building hype for casuals and getting a lot of shit talk there's literally no one on there chefchenko way late what are we doing right jdm is on nothing yeah um market shows minus 285 and jdm's plus 230 that's gone down yeah that's not bad i just can't i'm looking for seeing what happens bo bo nickel with Rodolfo he's a monster

fucking monster that's a lot to deal with though isn't it jiu-suitu-wise for bow no no because he's a great matchup for if it was straight jiu-jitsu

yeah and I imagine that Rodolfo has not done much striking either this is going to be a grappling match okay do you see there you have that current event i say you chin herb dean said there's going to be way stricter repercussions for i poken up good are there yeah and he said it's been around for a few

years they just never been like calling people out on him let me hear it so we made a rule where it's a foul to extend the fingers towards the eyes right so that's that's that's the rule we've already had in place right so that rule has been there but we haven't been enforcing it yeah yeah doing that. Guys are still doing it, even though you hear Herb and the guy saying, guys, fingers up or make it fit. And people still just, they come out like this. So we're going to move forward on that. We're actually going to, you know, I think people would not have been used to seeing someone get a point taken. Because most of the time when we take a point, it's more as a reactive to the damage and the unbalanced end of the fight that's been done by a file. And that's the only way we can think of balance it. But this right here is a dangerous file. Somebody is going to keep doing a dangerous act. action. We should start taking points by them doing that action, from them doing that action before it actually happens to hurt the crime. We've made rules. Agreed.

Yeah, so he said it's been in place. Yeah, let's start enforcing it. And I get it because they don't want to stop the fight. They don't want, you know, but no. So if you start doing this, you're going to get a foul. Yeah, there was a time where they were on it, especially when John Jones was right, when they just go, keep the club. You hear him. go keep the finger close, keep your glove close, and they would even stop them and warn them.

But now I think because of the pressure from everybody, especially after Tom Ashton, they're going to take a point, which is what they should have done all along. Great job, yeah. Remember, the UFC is not the commission. It's not up to them. So if you're the UFC, you know,

they're like, what do you want to, they're told to enforce it. They're not doing it. There's not much else we can do. Right. I think they're saying like you can't do this, but you're supposed to do something like that. right well you know you're if you want to catch shots or you know you'll see but like this shit

but a lot of times guys are going back like yeah you can't do that it's not now going back like that or closed right but they want you that's why they're like close your fist close your fist you hear them say that all the time that's weird you got but you know you got to take a point you stop giving warnings i mean this one i think okay i'm sorry this one i think they said dude that's a warning and then if something happens no warnings that's what they're doing now no i'm saying this not not even poking yet just doing this, you know? Oh, if they don't...

They don't poke. They're just doing this. Like, hey, dude, that's a warning. Then they'll happen next. They got to do something. Yeah, they have to. Any new developments for the card this Saturday or no? Same, same shit.

What do you mean? I don't know. Any new information on... No, that's pretty much the same. No, well, knock on wood, there's no... You got W relay over... Yeah, we bet on it. on a bubble.

Shavka. Shavsha. We're better on Monday. Yeah. You want to rescind? No, sir. I'm sticking with it. What else you got chin?

Okay, dokey. There's going to be a few UFC fighters on that. Roadhouse? Roadhouse. There you go. These guys. So you got Taran Woodley, Michael Chandler. Wow.

So is Connor not associated with it? I think for the next one, probably not. Yeah. Stephen Thompson and then MVP. The boys are on it. Good. them yeah and

do you guys want to discuss the sydney sweetie stuff at all what's going on with her well there's this is a little bit different let's let's talk about this one first so this is ruby rose you know ruby rose right she's like that openly gay lesbian whatever actress yeah she's so annoying she was super popular for a while yeah she'll suck your teeth oh look she's trying to get attention here yeah ruby rose hits out of cretan

Sidney over Christy Flop. Interesting. Also, but what's not a... We gotta be careful, like, what's not a flop these days? I know. Like, if it's a Marvel movie,

if it's a Disney, but it's just a way of the world now. It's just... Ruby Rose, she accused to start having no connection to the character. She's kind of, like, upset. Well, first of all,

Ruby Rose was supposed to play Christy's girlfriend in the movie, right? And apparently, I guess she's not a part of that movie at all. And then she doesn't like the fact that Sydney is not. not gay and she's pretending to be one of us kind of thing if that makes any sense i mean look the old saying in hollywood is nobody wants to see sidney as an ugly like you know or i'm sorry

you know but just as somebody who is a boxer they don't want to see that okay that's for a different kind of actress that's not how she makes money they want to see her the way they want to see her right and that's as old as time like your your type of you're not getting out of that when you try to step out of that Johnny Debb when he stepped out of a lot of his roles made no money with his movies None But they want to see him as Jack Sparrow

Right Look at this freaking dumbass What a hater For a PR to talk about it flopping And saying Sidney Swinney did it for the people None of the people wanted to see someone Who hates them parading around pretending to be us You're a Creighton and you ruin the film period

Chris you deserve better So Sidney Sweeney hates gay people I've never heard of her even saying one thing about gay people people are mad at her about the American Eagle stuff obviously that who gives it she has more support than hate but I mean this is a narcissist but all this is she's jealous she's not in the movie yeah have we we haven't said her name in fucking years no here's a way to get your attention yeah this is very this is very common this is very marked merit well it's also very common among wealthy white women educated women they are they are they are exercising their clout in politics and they are primarily very left They're very intolerant. They've done a lot of studies on this. They don't promote freedom of speech.

They believe in speech codes. And this Ruby Rose, this is a classic example of this. There are a lot of women like this, a lot who are, for example, in Mamdani's employee and it's surrounding him. This is, this is, this is, it's like the, the, the, she's a nasty shit. It's like Dwayne Johnson's, uh, movie about Steve Kerf flop, right? Mark Kerr's, flot. but it's like yeah unless it's a marvel movie it's just it's not 1990 movies aren't crushing it yeah now they just love seeing sidney sweeney fail and that's what that's ruby rose

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Stream now Pay Never The other problem though too Because they probably knew This movie Isn't do great Because it's not a

Marvel or not You know Fits the agenda For a big box office movie So you didn't see A lot of promotion For it at all She just wanted to play this character

Because she was so attached To you know Christy Yeah you didn't see much Promotion at all Like I didn't know It came out this weekend Also nobody's going to theaters

Really It's just the thing of the palis like i bet this would have done great it was a release on netflix yeah true okay and this is the other well this is based off of this interview that christie christie oh my gosh sidney swini did with gq magazine look at all these look at all these virtue signaling assholes yeah that's ziza and then zendaya oh okay well they're just jealous like like obviously sidney's popping right now these girls are like trying to find their way in yeah that one right there says uh who the fuck she's like a singer i don't follow herself she hasn't had any plastic surgery um you know i mean

i don't what are they saying so i can hate them let me just well it's not even them saying stuff it's more like um let me play this clip first this is the gq interview a clip of it she's like do you want apologize says no we know this jen okay so then so they're upset at this is more of zendai not agreeing with her politics right So basically, Sydney is a very open. Let me hear about Zendaya's politics. So Sydney's open, registered Republican, right? People don't like that.

And Donald Trump apparently really likes her a lot. People don't like that as well. And then just because she didn't answer anything to defend against that stuff during this interview, these people are kind of turning on her. Yeah, but they're just looking for the opportunity. Like they're just looking for opportunity to jump in. Yeah, this is the main thing they're talking about, genetic superiority. They're saying it's like white people. It's so stupid. They're making

a seem like Sydney Sweeney saying that white people are genetically better than other people. This is so great. Last week, Sydney Sweeney did a chaotic interview. No, it wasn't, with GQ, where she was asked about the backlash she faced at controversial American. Her dismissive response went viral. And people were confused that she didn't jump at the opportunity to distance herself from alt-right politics. It's been reports in Dea's refusing to do euphoria press with her. oh no what are they gonna do yeah

and there's Cindy she just needs to keep on keep it on yeah crush it girl crush it it's difficult for how stupid is this it's a difficult position for Zendaya to be in because if she even stands next to Sydney

on the red carpet it's basically her agreeing with her views on Trump and refusing to apologize for a racist ad really or she should just staying next to her co-star. Or they both have different political... Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Amy Lee Wood also made her opinion clear by commenting a throwing up emoji under the GQ interview video. She also liked the video by content creator Jupiter Ball, which called out Sydney's behavior and said she knew what she was doing. Wow. Actor Ruby Rose. Just a bunch of chicken heads.

They're clucking. it. They're just clucking. They're just clucking. Clock away, girls. You're just clucking at the one with the big old titties. Clock away. Cluck, cluck, cluck. They just want to crush her. It looks like Sidney's year of Babibbutzzi is cashing up to her as Christie is set to be her third box office flop of the year. Chin, look up how much American Eagle paid her. They are such fucking assholes.

All these actresses suck. They're just awful people, but they, you are. vote is the problem and they just it's all about them not public 5 mil potential weird is public so upset with Sydney Sweeney she's the American Eagle ad and then their stock goes up 23% oh oh the public must be really mad no public's like what yeah but that's There's also that one thing, remember Briah that you mentioned some white girl saying something about some black kid and she did a go fund me and it just like blew up. Do you remember you mentioned something about this? No, I don't think so. Okay, never mind. But I'm just so done with Hollywood.

I'm so done with actresses. I'm so done with musicians. I'm so done with all of their virtue of signaling, all of their hypocrisy, all of their just narcissistic behavior. It is just an awful place. And you can bet they will jump on whatever gets them attention. Whatever the trend is, they go with the one. Never underestimate the pathology. I can just see it.

I'm like, oh, you're just the worst. Um, CSU's racial slurs against a five-year-old black kid. We saw this, yeah. Yeah, that's, that it's kind of like a lot of racists out there are really supporting this. Yeah, there are. there are people or there are people who just are yeah there are a lot racist it's true okay dokey I don't think you guys care about this right no

men as we're talking about oh shit it's it's in wrestling that's what it's in wrestling it's just all that's wrestling he is a five look at Sean Strickland what's how is he that shredded that no that'd be Homzot you fuck oh I'm sorry that look like Strickland Jesus Homsat's a fucking beast. Yeah, the back muscles here. Good Lord, have mercy on me. Yeah, he's a problem. What the fuck is going on with that?

Jesus Christ. He's a fucking freak. Oh, my God. All right. Have you guys been following this at all the Jeremy Renner and some director, some Chinese director woman? Yeah. I haven't what's going on.

So says Marvel star Jeremy Renner accused of threatened to call ICE on Chinese film partner? Yeah. so this Chinese director in him they worked on two projects together and the first time they met they had a consensual brief encounter right

they boned basically after that they met one more time to work on some film stuff and then he apparently didn't want to have any kind of relationship with her and that's when she started flipping out and then she says he's been sending her

guys here there's cute he's been sent her nude pics she's saying she's claiming that he's been he's been sending her like dick picks and then when they were together he had this he was drinking some wine and he started getting crazy and loud and so she locked herself into a bathroom and started messaging her friends like he's crazy he drank a whole

bottle of wine by himself and then she started posting and she takes these pictures right like he's around here is where he's supposed to be hanging out with her and yelling oh they're dating yeah well that's what she says and these are alleged texts from them. And then here's another picture of her. So she's putting them on blast or what? She put on her Instagram.

She literally put a bunch of stuff on her Instagram about Jeremy, hashtag Me Too, Jeremy Renner, this and that. Jesus. You're nasty. So then let's see. There's a lot to this, so there's her again. She's just a jilted lover. That's exactly what I think. And then she's claiming that when they got an argument, he said, you better calm down or I'm going to report you to ice.

And she freaked out about that. That's probably a joke. But again, not funny. No, but she's saying it like literally, you know, he did it. Of course she is. But not a joke. When you put a dude on blast like that, good luck finding a date. Who is that one girl who the, she was in crazy rich Asians?

Oh, yeah, the one that was on fresh off the boat. Oh, no, not her then. And it was like, the way she told the story, it's like, that guy didn't know that. like you had sex with them and you said you came yeah and then you were like but you know he raped me and people are like what like her story was fucking and she hasn't worked since i don't think because she was the one who's like she was like complaining that her show got picked up and how mad she was she just sounds like the worst that's one of her posts she did a bunch though cancel yeah on her instagram wow

back to here. She sounds like that. So Jeremy Renner's team, obviously, as it says here, vehemently denies anything like that. And then they talked about some of the stuff that she sent him. And one of them was something about

how badly she wants him inside her. There you go. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. You mean there's another side to this story? Yeah. Huh. I'm sure they're both assholes.

No, she sounds like a bigger. asshole um she put this okay what she said that's the thing another thing she does if she sends these like potential things that are proof but then she blocks out all these things even the ice thing she kind of blocked out well she doesn't have his permission it also get taken down yeah okay interesting interesting interesting this is no idea i wish i cared what happened to either either one of them yeah this is go to hell all names are given you are a pig you use all apps to send dick picks no one said anything so far and then she cuts it off here immigration this is supposedly him immigration will be notified she has these weird pictures just just him on the side she went crazy

yeah it sounds like it just didn't work out and they're both bitter you know well my issue is that all my issue is the woman can do all the damage and the man gets all the damage. It's a totally, there's no way to fight this. I bet both. I bet both are guilty. If you have a crazy bitch, though, if you have a crazy fucking human being, they can just say anything

about you and you're done. It used to be that way. Now it's a little bit different. And this is one of the texts that stood up. I want him inside me so badly so I can so badly fuck me, babe. And another alleged text had a request and play with the actress fake giant thing

while she thought about his real giant okay it sounds like they were they were hooking up yeah and it went south kind of dirty move on move on move on but she's decided but she's gonna use this as to weaponize it and he's like all what kind of films has she made when they say filmmaker well they're working on the documentary together uh the answer is nothing good right nothing good so she's a failed filmmaker and she's a shithead the other one who came on to me yeah yeah dude this is nothing they were hooked up. It didn't work out. She's like, fuck you. He's like, fuck you. He texts me this. She texted me this. Nothing's going to come from it. He just wasn't into her anymore. Yeah. I think

they hooked up once. She wanted to be with him. She probably fell in love. He didn't want to be there. Yeah. Look, she went crazy. I believe in Disney fairy tale. That's where he messed up. When Jeremy Renner reached out to me and pursued me, I thought until recently, love was appeared wrong. His accident made him a new person. Uh, so I'll click on this. You'll see how crazy long this shit is. Oh, I'm out. Oh, you're crazy. Look at this. Oh, you're crazy. You want to talk about a narcissist. There's so many things that everybody cares. I'm on Jeremy Renner's side. Oh, you're crazy. She's asking any similar stories, thoughts, and your receipts on DM. It's so, oh, she's out of her mind. That's her Instagram I showed you

already? Look at that. She just made it her job. She has 1.8 million followers. she has what 1.8 million followers as a director she sounds pretty awful oh god look the entire post is about she can't move on

yeah she's crazy yeah yeah she looks unhinged all right now let's keep moving on here this is something that I don't know how legit these people are

but they seem to be some this is so different Cosmetic News Channel team guy. Team, it's a girl and guy. And they're looking at that stuff that we've been noticing with. It's filler. It's filler. They say it's about the cheeks.

So when I went to... Play it so I know what we're talking about before... Let me see. Something strange is happening in Hollywood. The men have discovered anterior cheek projection. Ryan Gosling, that gentle face now engineered for light and shadow. David Beckham. Oh, wow.

The evolution from rugged to volume-onized. Bradley Cooper. He looks the worst. Simon Cowell. He might look terrible, too. In 2025, even masculinity has a midface moment. Dr. Naomi, don't you think it's getting all about to... That's not masculine, though.

That's the problem. It's a trend, right? Like, they're all doing this. So when I went to get my eyes done, they were like, well, everybody gets filler. You have to get filler. I was like, I'm not getting filler because that's gay. God, I wish you did.

And there's not. a shot but like they were like they were showing me they were saying how common it is with everybody but it looks like shit everyone looks like way new terrible now you can do filler apparently where it's really subtle but this cheek shit that is ridiculous and look at his hair i mean he they look terrible some of this might be you know messed with but i think that's messed with they don't look that oh you think it's you think it might i think so yeah they're exaggerate like he i can't tell that's are we being gamed try to find some go to a picture of him yeah and beckham i think like beckham doesn't look like that that i think

some of that's a i become before after well i would just say we don't need that because it's gonna what you want to say with him today yeah like he those are so photoshop that we're looking at handsome fuck he's handsome as fuck let's go to his instagram well you kind of does look like that a little bit not really the thing was so far off. I mean, they'd probably exaggerate, of course,

but let's look. Even right here, his eyes look different. Okay, hold on. It's hard to see there. Yeah, maybe a little puffier.

Why do you want more of a puffy face? Because a doctor tells you, the doctor says when you get older, they go, so see how may i and you're like yeah see how we can just make this really subtle just make it look a little bit like you just had a little more rest then you're like okay and then you get that and you just look so it does look like he had that thing yeah why would you why would you want to look puffy though i because you don't know god they really fucked up bradley cooper's face he was a handsome bastard

bradley bradley's the worst i'm like dude why would you do that yeah but i wonder it's not masculine And it's such a feminine look Yeah He looks like a crazy bird now And the Botox on the forehead It's all good to have wrinkles, baby Look at Brian, he didn't give a fuck Like he looked great right here

But of course he's younger Super younger This one's slowly transitioning I just don't get the appeal to it I don't You're gonna look like shit man You start putting needles in your forehead and your eyes and

Botox? Let's not talk about Bradley. Let's talk about the other guys. Let me look at Ryan. Let's talk about Ryan. That thing is these guys don't have Instagrams as far as I know. Not Ryan.

Ryan Goslinger. There's not much to go on. They all just, I don't get where they do it. 45. Is it about that age you start to notice some shit I just don't get the appeal to putting your That looks feminist fuck Why you want to have your cheeks puffy

Because they tell you to do it I stop drinking my puff went down baby I do I hate having he's got Look at how shiny his skin is You got shiny skin your eyes It's all not good I don't You can achieve that look by just drinking whiskey

lot. Going for the puff, you don't need to artificially do it. Yeah, that's what they're all doing, apparently this is the thing. Man, someone needs to tell them not the thing. We're about to calm down.

This was interesting as well. This is the winner of Miss World Chile. What? He says Miss World Chile contestant shocks judges with death metal performance from her come on check it out fucking hit it girl

she won't she won and she's also this is one of her actual band get the fuck out of here that's actually popular with pretty girls innocent looking girls doing this thing it's popular

Did she win after this? No, she's had this band forever. No, I know. I know. I'm not asking if she's had the band. I'm asking, did she win and then perform? Or was this part of her winning? Oh, I don't know.

We should look that up. Let's see. I mean, she performed at the, you know, sometimes did they have a talent segment? She's gorgeous. Let me see a little more? Is that it? That's it. But Brennan wants to find out if she won.

You know what I'm saying? Like, is that part of winning? Like, someone's like, dude, this is awesome. She's your winner? Or did she win? Like, hey, you want to play your song? yeah i don't think yeah that's interesting you know because i'd seem the older audience like uh she's definitely not the winner chile never been to chile i'd like to go

performs during the cop well it says during the competition so hmm hmm know if she won. I know if she won. Is this one of the reasons why she won? Is that performance? Because does she win? How do you want to celebrate or whatever?

You get two minutes, do whatever you want. She fucking do that. Oh, yeah. She riled away during the contest semifinal. Wow. So there you go. She won after. That's impressive.

What they call it? Screen Metal? Death metal. She's gorgeous. Good for her. okay okay and have you guys seen this as well

Leslie Jones talking about Tony yeah this always makes me sad I love Leslie I love Tony I just I just don't know what to say about it it just bums me out okay I'll just play the clip I just wish we weren't all going bad on I just don't I ain't saying shit

what's something that people think is comedy that you think is not comedy Oh, shock humor. I hate shock humor. I hate people to say things because they want to shock you into laughter. That's not funny, and it never lasts. It never lasts. Be creative and write real material.

Shock material is just dumb. Like the Tony Hinchcliffs, and I'll say it, because fuck that bitch-ass bitch. Your fucking mustache make you look like a Puerto Rican porn star. Go fuck yourself, you little antsy bitch. And go get your herpes taking care of. Sorry. It's okay. You can cut that out.

I think I'm probably good. What's something? Do you guys know if Tony, like, talks a bunch of shit on her? Is that why? No. I just think. It's cool to hate the popular kid. It's just part of the game.

And the Tony Kill Tony podcast responded with just a bunch of laughing emojis and reposted it too. Yeah, they're going to run with it. That's the best way to do it. Yeah, Tony. Tony, like I've said this, Tony is a guy who came along and had the balls to say

things when comics were getting in trouble and canceled for it and he got they tried to cancel them twice for things and he just you know he's there's probably nobody who does more to get young comics out there he created this thing called Kill Tony

never missed a Monday in 13 fucking years nobody works harder I'm working consistently um so i i just i can't say anything i'm not i just i don't get it when i see comics that i know who i like both of whom i like going bad on each other i just find myself shaking my head tony's not going bad on her though no the reason she's going bad on tony is because it's success because no one hated tony when he was just doing it at the comedy well my thing is my thing is it's also fine to disnot like somebody's comedy or not like what they're doing or not like shock comedy. I get it. But I think sometimes it's, I guess I don't know that we need to go bad on

each other. There's some, there's some anger there. Yeah, she's seen really emotional. There's some anger and jealousy there. I don't know. There must be something that comes to the territory. Yeah, I don't know the story behind it. Yeah, it comes to the territory. Like, with success comes, you know, trolls. I think Tony would be okay. Okay. Guys, true classic. Oh, wait, look, I'm wearing a true classic t-shirt under this. I'm always got something in True Classic. Always. It's amazing to me that these clothes are always,

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Don't worry about the Tyson fear. that's just like an adder but uh says below the belt this is probably their segment that the sun does it's about boxing just kind of you know similar to what you used to have well similar it's my exact show you know what i'm saying though dude geez but anyway this is what they're saying is uh there's a boxer who actually he as of this year in october he actually made it from he made one win and 100 losses that's his record Continue to do the damn thing. Shout to blow the bell on the sun.

He's... This is Jake Pollard. One in 100. That's the guy who keeps losing? Yeah, and this article is basically like, can you imagine being the guy that he beat? The one win. But boxing's so corrupt.

A lot of them have these guys, these gentlemen like this, and they put money on the winner, you know? Oh, is that right? Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit. So he's taking a lot of beatings? Yeah. He's taking a lot of falls.

He's getting paid. You think? Yeah. yeah because sometimes with fighters that you need to pad your record because also why else you're going to book your guy when he was one in 50 yeah they bat they pad your record with people so they'll take you down there's certain guys you'll fight he'll take a drop he'll take a fall okay and then this guy posted about it he goes casual look at this guy's record and laugh but true fighters will see something

impressive on his record and they list the reasons why no no they don't i mean i guess the thing is he hasn't given up that that take away i mean one and one yeah i i think uh he's i think he's a guy who is there to pad records

wait he got suspended too yeah my guess is he's until 1122 yeah 100's tough yeah I mean you guys are like dad you box sure did what's your record I think he's there one and 100 he's there to take balls

it is true that you pad your record it's how you build like you know you move to the next division next level yeah whatever all right here's a singing one and there's a debate on this do you think she's good or does she's bad terrible

hold on oh my world I love you why I love worlds I love you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you it's different it is different she clearly has talent yeah she clearly has talent

yeah The piano guy's all. Yeah, it's very avant-garde. She's a skilled, but she's different. If avant-garde, it's very kind of off. It's like deconstructed. Yeah. You can tell if she could sing.

That's what I'm saying. She has hit so crazy, no. But it's just, it's a little too crazy. It's a no for me, dog. I guess she could probably sing it really well if she wanted to, and she's doing some weird stuff. It's a no for me, dog. Someone said, I want her arrested. I heard a horse, goat, a cat, and a fur game.

my favorite I want her arrested right now She's saying This in the key of Shamone Songs in coat minor What's this? This one I just thought was So remember TJ obviously had his issues with

The UFC because he had EPO, blah, blah, whatever Now they're actually working He's working with the UFC to design some sort of new supplements No, he's had his supplements forever With the UFC? No, so he's had his supplements a brand for a hot second. I use it. And then UFC's now, he's in collab with the UFC. Yeah, that to me is just, yeah. It's cool, though. It was just kind of like, wow.

It's what they should be doing. He's great. Throughout my career, I was striving for peak performance. And towards the end of my career, I was actually working for a brand, helping them revamp some of their products. And as I was doing that, I realized they weren't creating the products a way that I would create them as professional athlete striving for peak performance. I thought, I was going to be taking the product personally. I wanted to believe in them. He looks like a mini-bonichol. That's why I started Wild Society Nutrition.

I wanted to create clean products that are good for you. Our customers are people that are wanted to chase dreams, health and wellness and fitness. These were the products that I needed when I was competing and trying to become a UFC champion, but they didn't exist, so I decided to create them myself. Yeah, stuff is great. I use protein powder, all of shit. Yeah, wild society is amazing. I love TJ.

Cool, you go. But this is what the UFC should be doing, celebrating these guys so they have careers when they're done. You want to go? This is so great. Do you see this? Oh, my hot plate then. What is this?

It's that same girl, Tish. Tish Hyman, that what stood up first off at Gold's Gym. She's still going? Yeah, this is that some sort of set. She's speaking to people. Yeah. That guy was a criminal who beat his wife. Yeah.

took her name. And then you're going to be upset with this. I guarantee you. They get mad at her? Just dudes in the background. You'll hear you'll see. As the only black lesbian in here, Senator Wainter, as the only black lesbian here,

can I please ask you a question? Because I flew here to do that. Yeah. As a lesbian woman who was attacked in the woman's locker room by a self-identifying trans women, with a documented history of domestic violence,

I'm deeply concerned about women. safety in the female on these faces, what would you say to women who are seeking assurance that their safety will be pretended from men who by California... What have we said, Lourna Russell? ...who are women in two women on these spaces, sir.

Please tell me. Yeah, so we want, I mean, everyone to be safe. And we also know that, you know, that we have trans people, both men and women, who are men and women. Is this in New York? Senator, you've done great things with the bills you've passed with the housing. I've read a lot of your bills.

And like you said, there are bills that need to be opened up. And I'm telling you now, millions of women across America are being harassed and sexually assaulted in law. I'm a lesbian, black women. I'm not transphobic. I'm not homophobic. And I do respect a lot of the things you've done. But I do see a lot of these bills that you've passed that are dangerous for women. women and young children. And I understand that you're trying to be on a level playing a field,

and I'm here to represent my community because I hear a lot of things about my community in these bills. And I'm telling you as a woman, first and foremost, that this is dangerous. And we need your help because you're in the office. You're going to go into a Poliski spot. I want to support you. I have millions of people behind me watching this right now. And we want to know, are you going to protect women. Not trans women, women, women, women, women, women, women. Listen, we need to protect women's safety. Oh, God. Oh, she broke his wife's jaw so bad, she needed a reconstructed surgery.

I'm a lesbian. I'm not transphobic and I'm black. So if there's another black woman in here who wants to tell me how they feel, please join in. But all of you are not. And I don't know who you are. Oh, she's gangster. I like her. I like her.

Who else wants some? Good for her. I respect what you have done. I just want to let you know that. I guess. Yeah, but he's a bitch, too. Oh, no, you can't tell by the way he talks, everything. He's so soft. Yeah, I'm sure you're sorry.

What are you going to do about it? I am leaving because you know what? You guys are not protecting London. You're doing a lot. The bills that you're passing for the law, I like a lot of them. They're great. Ooh. You just go around in circles.

Some fucking guy like that. Nothing gets done. It was clearly like a far left progressive who can't even say that women are women and men are men. This is the kind of shit we deal with in California. She's awesome. Whoa. Paris Jackson is gorgeous.

You never seen her before? Not lately. Yeah, she's a pretty one. Okay, we'll do this one. And by the way, Scott. She has a hole in her nose from drug use? Scott Wiener's from California. Damn, she's ready.

I have a really loud whistle. If you go back to videos, you can hear it when I breathe through my nose. And that is because I have what is called a perforated septum slightly different from a deviated septum and that is um it's what you think it's from don't do drugs kids or i mean do i mean you know everyone's going to have the experience you need to have with life i'm not going to tell anyone what to do but i don't recommend it because it ruined the life uh i don't want to get plastic surgery to fix it because i'm almost six years sober and so take like you have to take pills when you do a surgery that nightly and i'm just i don't

that, but I've been living with this since I was about 20. It's a, when you're in the studio, common vocals. I can actually stick a spaghetti noodle. See, glass half full. That's cool. Boy, boy, she's beautiful, but you can be beautiful, born rich and famous, and you still can't get, you can't take it. Ain't no way out, kids.

That's the motto of the story, Brennan. We've got to keep moving. You got to just believe in something higher. and yourself and uh it's not all about fame fortune and it's not one of those types you sent the group tap yeah it's not all about fame fortune and all that stuff buddy you know what i'm saying save it no but it's true that's a classic example you want everything right you want beauty you want money you want fame and uh somehow it's not enough if you're not grounded so she's fucking beautiful too she does really well she's not michael jackson's biological job adopted she has these features though

which kind of like... Yeah. It's interesting. Of a super white chick? Yeah. Anyway. All right, guys. You guys want more?

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