The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK Ep. 1034 | Nic and Ryan Nemeth

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

WWE & TNA Pro wrestlers Nic Nemeth (Dolph Ziggler) and his brother Ryan Nemeth join the show for the first time. They talk how they got into pro wrestling, working with Vince McMahon, wrestling with B...obby Lashley, how they got into stand up comedy, Bryan playing "pool boy" on MadTV, an update on Nate Diaz's beef with Brendan, Ryan being terribly pranked by Nic and much more! Arena Club - Right now, get 10% off your first Slab Pack or card purchase by going to https://arenaclub.com/fighter Hims - Start your free online visit today at https://hims.com/fighter DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code: FIGHTER O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER JOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yes we did, cause we back at it again, it's the fighter and the kid This is really the fighter and the kid Yes, Meth, Meth We were talking about Meth before Ryan and Nick Nemeth What's up fellas? Hey, what's up? Thanks for coming down dudes
Starting point is 00:00:17 We've been talking this whole time so we're gonna make it like we just met What's up guys, great to see you Hey, yeah What have you guys been up to? Yeah, besides wrestling And a podcast Yeah, the Nemeth Bros podcast What's up guys great to see you. Hey, yeah, what do you guys been up to? Yeah besides wrestling? And a podcast. Yeah, the Nemeth bros podcast. What's it called Nemeth bros. You guys just started it You know what the world needs a couple white guys doing a pod. Yes That's what we need another believe but yours gonna be good cuz this your brothers the experience like you know you guys cross a bunch of different kind of genres with your
Starting point is 00:00:48 wrestling background the massive WWE fans Comedy fans like you guys so you guys gonna crush it. Yeah, we get some good guests so far Yeah, that's we've been lucky that because we cross a couple different genres of stuff of wrestling and he's on TV on movies doing stuff in LA. So we have some crossover friends of like, Freddie Prince Jr. was just on our show. I love Freddie, and Freddie's a WWE. Yeah, he was a writer at WWE while I was,
Starting point is 00:01:13 he was a writer. He was a writer. He helped us with like an acting class. He did all, like, he's a great guy. He's just a ridiculously nice guy. Good on podcast too. Yeah, yeah. I've known him for a while, We both known him for a while.
Starting point is 00:01:25 He told some stories on when we interviewed him that I was like, why have we never heard this before? But suddenly he has stories for days. He's a great guest. Do you guys feel any pressure? Cause with the wrestling fan base, the rabbit or the crazy, right? Do you feel like you have to check certain boxes for the rest of the fan base with your pocket?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Do they get mad? Cause like, uh, like you're a Hawaiian. He's a massive show in the MMA space. When he talks about wrestling, the MMA fans get mad. Right. Yeah. And if he talks about just, you know, if it's just, or even if I talk about boxing, the MMA fans get mad.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah. So it's like, you, you have to make sure that you're kind of checking a certain box. I like that we, we don't try and check boxes, but also there's not just two white guys doing a podcast. There's a lot of wrestling podcasts out, like pro wrestling ones, and we're in the business, and we're actually in the same company at the moment, which is pretty awesome at TNA, Wrestling Together, but we were not going, well actually on Monday Night Raw,
Starting point is 00:02:21 I didn't care for the storyline over this. We don't do that at all. Like we go, hey, we did this comedy show the night before our wrestling show. Here's what led to it. Here's how Ryan got screwed on the payday from the other guy. We do all that kind of stuff. We're not rating and reviewing matches,
Starting point is 00:02:34 but we're telling you that the ones that you are rating and reviewing the wrestlers in the match aren't thinking about that. Yes. They're thinking more like, what time's my flight? Oh yeah, headlock, OK, sure. The night before flying in I got canceled So I had a flight at Charlotte and then drive to here and then go here and then I got there just as my music was
Starting point is 00:02:51 Playing and I was putting my gear on in the cab and like that kind of stuff Well, it's good cuz most people don't hear that narrative Yes, well, I always find interesting is cuz you guys are like, I don't know if you legit wrestlers Oh, yeah, like legit Stunt yo studs studs was there any inclination? Obviously, I'll go to this is it was there any inclination to actually? Not go the like professional wrestling route and get into MMA or do anything more with wrestling probably for you There was a little bit for me. I saw I'm Ryan up before we started here
Starting point is 00:03:23 I was like I my older my buddy's older brother showed us, I had an old VHS tape and it was UFC one, two, and three. And we had like a sleepover after like a grade school. We had wrestling on Friday nights. I have a sleepover at pizza and watch this video. I was like, this is the craziest. Like people forget now, what is there 500, 600, just UFC's, because it was one, two, and three C's It was one two and three hundred like there is yeah
Starting point is 00:03:47 There's just like a dude with like his legs splayed all open and just getting punched in the junk Yeah, and and by the way not tapping out at first no gangster Yes, so like there's some crazy wild stuff and I go this is the wildest stuff I ever saw so then when I got to high school My buddy and I was there a ponytail ripped out at some point? Just everything. You could hold the ponytail. Yeah. You can't do that anymore. It's illegal, but there was no, it was barred for a while.
Starting point is 00:04:11 You remember pride. You'd see soccer kicks and teeth carver. Crazy shit. What year did you graduate high school? 98. OK. So I mean, it was just, it wasn't big yet. So was it kind of an option really for wrestlers yet, right?
Starting point is 00:04:25 It wasn't but it was also like we knew about it and kept up with it So we would do wrestlers up and then at the end of practice me and two of my buddies Kleppel is one of them and another guy we would at least go like okay No punch in the face, but like let's try and tap each other out or just hit ribs and stuff And we roll around I can three black and blue shots down the ribs and like, all right, now let's do, try one little one for the face, just have a black eye to go out on Friday night. It's kind of cool to have a black eye.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But it was just like, I thought that was wild and I go, people forget, everyone knows that now it's so mainstream. It was not, it was this crazy thing that I couldn't believe. You're an outlaw if you did it. Legit, the Bloodsport movies. It was real life happening.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It was so cool. It's actually kind of shocking. As Rogan once said, it's as close you can come to seeing two people try to kill each other with their bare hands. Yeah. It really is. And it wasn't like weight class.
Starting point is 00:05:16 We're not used to that. Not back then. No, it was just, oh. And this guy is just human cock. Yeah. I mean, Vale Tudo in Brazilian means anything goes. Mad. And those fights in Brazil, and also just pride back in the day, was insane.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But then, because with you guys like legit wrestling credentials, at what point were you like, oh, I'm going to go professional wrestling? Because it's wrestling, but it's not like the collegiate or freestyle wrestling you're doing. Well, hey, I just remembered when you talked about high school practice, you were maybe helping coach when you were done with college or midway through college. There was times when you would like wait till everybody left the high school wrestling room and go, Hey, spear me a couple of times. Give me a couple of, give me a couple of stunners.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And I was like, Oh cool. I want to see if I can learn how to, and I was like taking like bumps on like the one inch wrestling match Yeah, instead of the yeah, you know where you should be taking bumps But as I also read Mick Foley's book where he was he's great jumping over the hood of his car and landing on the ground So I did the same thing a couple times in a row just had a back full of like half golf balls For no reason going into like my trial like I'm gonna be so ready like it was I just had a really sore back before we so ready for this didn't want anyone any of the esteemed acclaimed st. Edward high school coaches to see this
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, I didn't know because I give me a stunner How's it cuz I don't know like professional ruts. I was a fan of as a kid, but that you know, I just Didn't follow it the storylines on stuff. But to me, is it frowned upon? Like if you go from legit wrestling, like freestyle wrestling, you guys were both studs, setting records, and then to go, now, we can say it's scripted, but it's still, I mean, pretty gnarly shit.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Probably back when you were wanting to do it in high school and college, it was frowned upon. Yes, it was a hilarious like everybody knew that. So I went to my dad took me to a show and I was five. It was the Richfield Coliseum. Cleveland didn't even have an arena. That's where the Cavs played. And I go, hey, I want to wrestle.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And he was OK. So at five, he signed me up for wrestling, which I thought would be pro wrestling. And it was not. But I know I swear I walked in hacks all the way. I'm like, I walked in and just some mats on the ground. I go, where's the ring? He goes, if you get good at this, maybe one day. OK, whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So I tried it. And at the time, before Kurt was big. And you're the only kid that ever worked for it. You're like, all right. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, this is the only person. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yes. That's it. The only kid was like, this is what it takes. Everyday I'm saying that. He's just like, all right. Practicing alone. OK. Like, what do you have face paint on? Yeah, I Thought there was gonna be a ring and chairs all this stuff and it was nothing I go It's like drop steps across from yeah, I'm like this sucks and nobody watches wrestling
Starting point is 00:07:58 No, it's you do all this hard work and no one's there for this board the world Yes And so before Kurt was a big deal most of my most of it was very much frowned upon. Luckily Kurt was breaking in and becoming like world champion as an Olympic gold medalist so it gave me a little bit of credibility to like me wanting to do it but everyone was like oh that that fake shit who cares and I go I'm gonna have a job when I get out of here maybe I the rest of us might not. It's also physically like Kurt Engel told me that he broke his neck.
Starting point is 00:08:26 He said, I have more injuries from professional wrestling and from Olympic. Like that's crazy. Like he said, like he broke his neck. And when you look at it, like I was watching the Vince McMahon doc and I've never been into WWE, but I swear to God watching it, it made me want to be, it made me want to go back because I love that drama and it was like such a fucking blast because the theatrics, but the athleticism, like say what you will about Logan Paul, that motherfucker doing those back flips and you know, he's athletic kid.
Starting point is 00:08:57 He's athletic, but more importantly, when you're doing that crazy stuff and I was watching those guys, how much of that, it's got to be choreographed. Are you able to go through it? I know this is a common question, but are you able to go through it? Because it didn't look like that. It looked like these guys were in there and they're like, let's just,
Starting point is 00:09:12 they're talking to each other while they're doing it, yeah? Right. It's a little bit of both. One, say it's Logan Paul or something, like you gotta rehearse that and go through it because he's not on the road doing it. I think he was pretty open about it. He showed clips of him practicing. He's like, practice singing. Like jumping through the table and it. I think he was pretty open about it. He showed clips of him practicing.
Starting point is 00:09:25 He's like, yeah, he showed clips of him jumping through the table and stuff. And then there's different levels of it. That, for him to not be around and he's there for two days and you have a big pay-per-view match, WrestleMania, you got to go through all the steps over and over. And even if you've choreographed that move, like the day of, you can just. Things go wrong. Yeah, or something on the rope. Tighten up or yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Or somebody's shoulder goes out and you can't do it or the rope isn't exactly how it has to be yeah yeah there's there's different levels to it and say it's me and someone else has been wrestling 15 years we can just see each other at the building go uh the the one finish where you do the twist got it and then we can just go out there even in a main event and we could talk the whole time or not at all oh You can't talk the whole time. But when it comes to like pay-per-views or big where everyone, the focus is on you and it's a big build-up, almost everybody has to rehearse and rehearse and rehearse because it is all for the production angle, the shots, to make sure the timing is right for when
Starting point is 00:10:18 this guy comes out. So you have to make that show. It's great and I don't think people know the ins and outs of it. I think when I was in the UFC, it's not that I didn't respect it. I was also trying to get a fight with Brock Lesnar. So I was like, he's doing fake wrestling. I'm gonna beat the shit out of this guy. He's faking it.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And then I had friends and then I started meeting people that were part of like that world. And Bobby Lashley came to the gym because we're both from Colorado and he lived in Colorado. And we started training together and I was like, I'm gonna beat the shit out the show this guy he's a fake wrestler man dude Bubba have you seen that he's built like a Ninja Turtle first of all yeah he has a shell on his
Starting point is 00:10:53 back let me see hold on dude you know see Bobby Lashley oh oh you're gonna you're gonna jack off them tonight genuine action figure I'm a gay man oh but I mean I'm straight gay man. Oh, bud. I mean, I'm straight, oh, Jesus. Let me get my hand out. He's not even flexing in these pictures, by the way. That's ridiculous. That's just what he looks like.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Are you fucking kidding me? Now, he actually fought in MMA, and like legit, dude. But, when I tell you, hold on, when I tell you, we couldn't take him down. I've never seen him, I've seen everybody get taken down. He went with me and Shane Carlin, we're both, I'm ranked number 10 in the world at the time, Shane might be the world champion at the time. Monsters are in there, monsters.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Todd Duffy, all these monsters, all heavyweights. No one could come remotely close to take him down. You couldn't double him, you couldn't see him. No, he laughed at my double. What? Shane couldn't take him down. No, it was a thing. It was like, who's gonna take Bobby you? No, I, he laughed at my double like. What? Shane couldn't take him. No, it was a thing. It was like, who's gonna take Bobby down?
Starting point is 00:11:47 No one can take him down. Because obviously he had had experience as a wrestler. Yeah, I think he was a military champion. Yes, and he was training in Colorado. I think he was like- He was at the Olympic center. At the Olympic training center. Something along the lines,
Starting point is 00:12:01 like seventh or ninth on the ladder at the time. Because I went for my tryout, my dream job. So I was five years old, it goes, it's you and one other guy when you get there. And they go, look for a guy named Bobby. And I'm like, so I legit, I'm at like waiting at the car rental place, like, and I'm sitting there for a long time,
Starting point is 00:12:17 like, you can't be Bobby Lashley, right? And he goes, yeah, why? I go, fuck. I go, I'm having a tryout with a human action figure. I just wrestled 165 a month earlier. I'm like, I he's a human action. I go, this is my dream job. And I would pick you to win over the two of us. I'm screwed. Mom, I like that description of look for a guy in Bobby instead of look for a gigantic, enormous muscle man.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Dude, I mean, that guy, the nicest guy ever trained his sweetheart. Yeah, he trained with Josh Barnett a lot. And I called I talked to, you know, Josh Josh my buddy. I'm like he do you have problems with lashes like oh, dude No one gets him down. I'm like right. I'm fucking free. That's all my god freak great Yeah, I do great guy Christ freak so I so I met Bobby so I was a guy There's something to this you know these guys are the real deal And then I became really close friends with Eve who was the world champion Yeah, she married one of my instructors my best friends Henner and I started talking to her about W and she's like
Starting point is 00:13:13 Oh buddy, I was on the road 300 days a year Non-stop she's like in it's like people things all glamorous. She's like I was champion. We'd fly into a city I would have to book my own flights and everything. They pay you back. But just so we get there, I booked all my own flights. I'd have to rent a car, drive to say Iowa. Then the next match, the next day be in Minnesota. I'd have to drive there, book my hotel. She's like, you go all around the circuit 300 days a year.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Like just crazy legit. No off season. They got the flights, but you like they pick the flights you take whatever they give you and then it's like you do dry every night before covid It was this it was friday morning fly into a city Set up everything get your rental car do whatever uh do the match that night 300 miles somewhere else Three do everything together sunday do 300 miles and then mond we do TV, and it's like a 16 hour day, you gotta be there all day. Then Tuesday you do SmackDown TV that was taped for Friday, and then Wednesday you go home.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And then it was like five full days a week, unless you're doing PR work, which myself, Seamus, Kofi, Bobby even, we would stay on the road sometimes. And there's no off season, and that was an older different time to where, like hey, my best friend's getting married, and they're like, do you want us to tell Vince that you want to take off Saturday and you're like ah okay never mind never I'll go and it was
Starting point is 00:14:33 like that was a much different time that was a way different type but it was like 300 days a year you gotta figure out when to eat and there's a grind grind a little tricky getting on the road as a comic I'm like I gotta be I had to fly to Calgary and then I have to sit there and I have to perform for two hours at night. I know a guy like professional studs in the NFL where like, I can do WWE and they went down to the WWE center in Orlando and after like three days, I'm good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Like, fuck this. Also people say, oh, it's rehearsed. You're working together. You're not really fighting. Well, if you get slammed, you can not hurt for a minute, but it's like fuck well also people say oh, it's rehearsed. You're working together. You're not really fighting well if you get slammed You can not hurt for a minute, but it's like thousands of those Actually, you start getting concussion yeah, and then did you get into it because your brother was into it Yeah, I kind of like heads. I wasn't five years old wanting to be a pro wrestler you know But I love what a baby. I just you know I like watching it
Starting point is 00:15:24 I never thought of that as a you can't that's not like ah go to school to be this you know that didn't seem like a thing you could do but he was pretty set on it you know we all were just around going all right yeah maybe someday yeah it's on TV that's not a thing you can do yeah you know apparently so apparently so a little break for most of us that like collecting cards the idea spend two grand or more on a frickin Luca card of my home's rookie card Oh, Tony rookie card just isn't in the cards. I love collecting that some serious chatter Thanks to slap packs from arena club calm now
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Starting point is 00:16:28 Right now you get 10% off your first lab pack or card purchase by going to arenaclub.com slash fighter and use the code fighter. That's arenaclub.com slash fighter, code fighter for 10% off your first purchase. So apparently. I was doing this other track of like I was more into like I know I wrestled and played rugby in college I was into writing and the acting and comedy kind of stuff Theater whatever and then we would go see his minor league Matches on Wednesdays at our college my college is right an hour and a half from where he was training in WWE
Starting point is 00:16:58 So on Wednesday nights the rugby team would drive to go watch him wrestle. Hopefully Oh, that's cool. So we'd all load up in the car and go nuts and party and loved it. And I was watching thinking, oh wait, maybe this is kind of a possible thing. Yeah. You like being in front of a crowd. Performance.
Starting point is 00:17:12 You're some kind of athlete at least, you know? And as the next few years went on, I thought maybe, maybe, maybe. And the more I go visit him in the minor league systems where he was at and then seeing, oh, the guys on SmackDown are in this little show. It just it's like how you get there like alright and I Thought I'm not gonna Bank on him helping me, but I'm gonna try to do it on my own
Starting point is 00:17:36 So I went to the school the training place He was at on my own without WWE just trying to learn because I thought I got to try it if I'm not if I don't Like it. I'm not gonna be like this is my life, you know, yeah, then I just You just loved it well check kind of all the boxes Yeah, if you went to school to be like like you're down to write it's creative. There's an entertainment aspect to it Yeah, there's also a athletic side to it, you know, so it's kind of You kind of put in all those different categories, like in high school wrestling, in college rugby, I never felt like
Starting point is 00:18:09 I love every part of this. There's parts I do like. Yeah. In the theater department in college, I never thought I fit in here perfectly, you know? But that like blend of show business, athletics, carnival, lifestyle, weird ass. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:18:24 People from all like. Yeah, it makes sense. It's cool from all. You know, most of the guys, I always thought of it as guys who are giants, like giants, legit giants. And most of them are right. And you guys are not big guys, you know, that's gotta be. The last hundred years, it was just like big guys with a beer belly that could eat hot dogs and drink beers and just knock some punch on a horse or something. Then it slowly became.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It got athletic. Slightly smaller. Like they wanted like a more. eat hot dogs and drink beers and just knock some, punch out a horse or something. Then it slowly became, it got athletic. Slightly smaller, like they wanted like a more, Acrobatic kind of crew. Yeah, it became more and more where you have to work out. And a lot of people are like, we happen to do athletes that do things, but so many people are like,
Starting point is 00:18:57 they're comic book nerds that love wrestling and they're in it too. That's so many different pieces of it, but it just slowly morphed into, you gotta be able to be the strong guy But also tap somebody out but also be able to take a punch right to the face But also talk really well talk really well. Yeah Yeah, that's way more. It's yes wrestling is the least important part of the actual
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah, you gotta be able to talk trash real deal. You got good at it How do they decide like is it up to you who's a baby face who's a heel? It depends. There's just like your vibes heel man. A really funny thing was when you're first taught Like the first first day of class. It's like, okay Here's the basic things and you're usually taught to be a baby face because in the old days and territory days The heels led the match they were just like, okay now give me a punch here. Do this thing. Okay, roll me up. This is the finish. All these, they called all the shots
Starting point is 00:19:47 because they got to time out when they wanted the crowd up and down. And when you're trained, you're trained as a babyface. Lance Storm was my teacher and he goes, man, you're kind of a dick. I'm just gonna train you as a heel. Okay. So it kind of worked out for me,
Starting point is 00:19:59 but also that really was the case where you just listened and it depended. And then in the old days of WWE, I was just, I was training, they said, Kurt Angle's doing great. We're looking into you maybe kind of like a mentor thing where he'll be like that karate movie where it's like Chuck Norris and the Kid. It's like, oh my God, it's a dream come true. They go, keep your hair short. And that would be part of the theatrics.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yes. Keep your hair short. Don't get any tattoos. We'll do a thing. Maybe we're just like, he becomes your mentor. And I'm like, this is a dream come true. And then one day they just called and said, hey, you're gonna be a golf caddy tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:20:30 We don't know what that totally has to do, but try and find some golf clothes. That's Vince McMahon. I don't know, maybe he can be a golf caddy. Really, yeah. Probably, yes. Sadly, that was the case. Can, how much interaction do you have with Vince?
Starting point is 00:20:44 In the old days, a little here and there, Sadly, that was the case. Can, can, can, how much interaction do you have with Vince? In the old days, a little here and there, but once I earned, I got some equity built into, he could trust me with people out there and like, even like, work in Roman Reigns, who was like, before he became the all time, 10,000 years in a row of not losing and being the guy, it was just something like he was on the way and I was helping and much like the old days, like I kind of called It and put his pieces in there, especially if he had a busy day And it's like he's got seven interviews and you guys are the main event just take care of it and put him in
Starting point is 00:21:12 Okay, I do all these things we'd have a great match He'd win obviously and then I come to the back and the boss would you'd be able to have a little more interaction with him He's like I I was there to be able to make this happen. A little bit like, he's great, Roman's friggin' awesome, but when you're really, really good in our size, you get to have more opportunities to do some things. So that's when I got that relationship with him, like, where I could kinda like, Vince, this doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And the reason I think it doesn't make any sense is because you taught me 10 years ago that this doesn't make any sense, and we'd fight back and forth, but in a positive way to make the show better. And you get more of his ear the more you've proven yourself out there. And he was a genius, huh? Ridiculously.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And to have that plan to take all the territories and go national, unbelievable thing. Also, by the way, funny. And also really good as a character himself. The most ridiculous, believable, and for a good reason, bad guy character, yes. Well, he's painted as this bad guy now with all the stuff that's come out. Yes, but even in the old days. Oh really? But having watched that documentary, you know, first of all, what he's done is incredible. And to be a boss, you've got to be a bit of a dick, right? You've got to make choices.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I'm not talking about the other stuff. He's obviously in the weird sexual stuff. Business-wise, you've got to be an asshole in terms of business and what he built You've got to admire it and and and the fact that he was able to be sort of like the heel make fun of himself Be be a huge part of the show. He was doing everything. Yeah, Dana took his workshop Like there's no UFC. They're not the level if he didn't follow Vince McMahon's game plan Yeah, like the UFC's game plans the exact same as WWE Yeah, right. It's to a tee. Do you think overall? My guess is he's just a very complicated character
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah, I mean that's easy to say but I think he's just so focused on business We all thought for years like he's gonna die in the chair at 150 Yeah, and Jack the headset and Jack he's gonna be in that chair till the end because he loves it so much, and once in a while when he couldn't be there, we'd be like, okay, cool, what do we do now? Like, it's worse because he's on the phone and he can't be there, so it's like way worse than him.
Starting point is 00:23:15 But you mean now, he's still running things, but it's fine. No, no, no, a couple years ago, he's out now. Years ago when he took a leave of absence, he was still doing it, but fun like his house. Why did he take a leave of absence, he was still doing it, but found his house. Why did he take a leave of absence years ago? I don't exactly know. Hey man, I just, hey.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Figure it out. Issues. But even before all the complicated man part, but even before all that, once in a great while, because he's also running the billion dollar business, he couldn't be there on a Monday or something, because he was somewhere else. Doing everything.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, doing everything. Yeah doing everything So even then it would be like, okay, we don't have today so we can just get through it's like no He's on the phone wake. We're gonna he's an extraordinary guy Can't take a vacation and take a day off It didn't triple H step in for him and I heard a lot of wrestlers like yes like triple H knows a business He's married to his daughter, right? Yes. Yeah, and for it was I know He's married to his daughter, right? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And it was a... I know Sir Master was like, Triple H is actually really good at this. It's a... He's got a good... I feel like he's been right next to him for so long that he got to pick up like what works and what's great. Oh yeah. Like, and so...
Starting point is 00:24:16 And what really helps, I think, at a certain point, Vince, no matter how hands-on and genius, when you get to the 70s and 80s, you don't have your finger on the pulse of what's cool. No, you're a fossil. And if everybody around you, most of them are just saying, yeah, boss, you're right. You're straight.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, I like this job, so yes, you're right. And so it really helps having someone like Hunter be 30 years younger and be like, hey, maybe we go with this. There's this cool rap guy out there that has a billion album album sales All of a sudden I don't know who that is You're not supposed to know who that is, but everybody watching the show does you haven't watched a TV show or a movie in three decades
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah That's when they brought in Bad Bunny who's Massive Culture he's such a WWE fan so you bring him in what a way you bring everybody young fans, right? Logan Paul probably doesn't happen without Triple H like yeah, yeah He's such a WWE fan, so you bring him in. What a win for everybody. So you bring in more young fans. Right. Logan Paul probably doesn't happen without Triple H. You got it, you got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah. My question is, I watched that documentary, I don't know if you have, but Brett Hart seems like a very sour, like kind of soured on the business. He seems very broken about the business. And there's this thing where Vince doesn't tell him that he's going to, that he rings the bell and Brett ends up losing the title. In his hometown. Montreal's good job.
Starting point is 00:25:27 In Montreal, yeah. Got an insider in the room. I love this description, because every wrestling fan who's watching this will be like, It's cringing. You know what the Montreal's like? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:35 This is a normal thing. This is so much better to hear it this way. For me, I'm like, hey bro, hey bro, he spits in Vince McMahon's face. I guess he punched him out. And I'm thinking to myself Dude, you you took this really seriously You lost a fake wrestling title and it really makes you mad that that happened and I'm like you need to I mean
Starting point is 00:25:56 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, sir You need to calm down you had the title strip and you were retiring anyway, right? Like what we do is a lot that goes through. And he said, but he said, I'm not gonna lose my title in my hometown. You're not the boss. Right, yeah. That's not your title anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:12 It was like, what are we talking about? This is where we get a little crazy. The Hart family's like, I mean. I understand, but do you know what I'm saying? Especially in Calgary, you're just in Calgary, that's where they're at. Like you're talking about like the Hart family's like a staple in wrestling.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I'm sure they are. I'm saying though, I'm saying that- They're like the Calgary. That's where they're at. Like you're talking about like the Hart family is like a staple in wrestling I'm sure they are. I'm saying though Rational perspective. Yes. This is called theatrics and you lot we got to take the title from you Yeah, cuz that's what fucking makes sense theatrically and you're in your hometown. Let them mourn and you're the hero But it was like he lost he got screwed over a real competition like a real like like you fixed the World Series But there's probably a lot going on there too because remember his brother also died Died his brother after oh you just found that out. How did his brother die? From falling yeah, that was his brother. Yes. Yeah, I didn't know that was his brother. I didn't say bro Yeah, you're jumping the pool. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'm a little out. His brother died doing a stunt, fell from the top. I didn't know it was his brother. So they drag him out. And he kept going. And he goes, show has to go on. Well there's blood on the mat. Show must go on.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah, yeah. So he's on the mat, that's weird. It's true. That's the queen's song. Yeah, yeah. But there's blood on the mat. They're wheeling heart through and wrestlers are like, what the fuck? The case show gets to go on.
Starting point is 00:27:31 The Rock is doing a promo and you can see the blood on the mat. It's wild. But to Vince's point, he goes, it's a business. The people in the arena paid for a show. We're not going to do them disservice. They didn't see it cause the lights were out. Can I just say this? I'm sorry, but as a, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:49 when it comes to show business, if you're doing a show, if you're doing a Broadway show, if you're doing a huge concert, the show must go on. Yeah. And that's, that is, if someone dies, which is horrible,
Starting point is 00:28:02 you're not stopping the show. Like, in other words, I remember when Phil Hartman was killed on news radio, he was killed. He was murdered by his wife. He was murdered by his wife. They didn't cancel that show. They replaced him with John Lovitz because the show will go on.
Starting point is 00:28:19 We all mourn, we take time. We, it's a terrible thing. The only difference is this is live though. No, I get it. But especially with live shows, especially with live shows with a stadium full of people. And I bet if you ask the audience, I bet if you ask, Hey, should we stop? We think he might've died. I bet all of them like, keep going. Or, or you don't let the audience know. That's what Vince did. Yeah. And then, and then after that, you, you, you know, you've taken it. But I, but that's why, that's why Brett, that's why Brett's probably a little salty because there's that and then remember he was suing Vince and then they did a whole
Starting point is 00:28:51 Look into everything and it was a faulty. It's had nothing to do with Vance and guy. It was a faulty system And they sued that company. Yeah, I'm sure but also two things can be true back at the Bret Hart stuff to where But also two things can be true back at the Bret Hart stuff to where Brett takes it a little more seriously than a character on a TV show should But also with wrestling you have to you're that person all the time You're you're a Phil Hartman on news radio when he's at the diner You still have to be and have to have in your brain that you're live on the show as his character So a Brett, one of the greatest of all time, period. He's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:26 But also, sometimes when you're, in the old days through now, if you're leaving a company, who can I help pass the torch to when I leave? You don't have to have that attitude, but that's part of the show. But that's what I'm saying. And that's how it goes. You're leaving, you're gonna lose your title.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, I can't lose in the country that I was born in. I go, well, if I did that, I would be 5,000 or no, but you can't have that because you go, everyone else who left before you passes. If I had been Vince McMahon, I would have said, hey, hey, yeah you can, yeah you will. I own this company and that's how it goes. And I would remind him that it's not a real title.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So we probably, as far as Brett tells it Yeah told him one thing and then did another maybe that's yeah for sure That's fine too, yeah, also That's okay, too. Yeah, if you're out of options you get it through you guys still gotta get I gotta deliver this awesome main event I have to have these pieces fall into place I have to have him not be on the show anymore. It's your last show. And this guy's going to be the champ. We've got to have it work.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You're not retiring the champion. Yeah. You've got to lose. Damn, I passed it on. Like that's what happens in the UFC when you're like, is he, I'm telling you, one of the greatest ever. He lost. He's like, I think I'm walking away.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Then he was like, I'm not going to walk away. But there's something really sweet, poetic, justice. It's time for me to pass the torch because I lost in this incredible epic match, and he's not tapping come on Yeah, hey, you're gonna go to a different company. How come you're how come you're being a little bit You're a little I need you behind me on this bro I don't like it. You're fucking going like this like why are you doing? We already covered it. covered it. What do you mean? We keep going back and back to it. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, but do you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:31:07 I'm with you, yeah. I guess, you know. But it's also, yeah. That was also 30 years ago. But that's kind of what I mean. It was also 30 years ago. That's what I mean though. I'm just like.
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Starting point is 00:32:44 Restrictions apply. So see website for details and important safety information. Subscription required. Price varies based on product and subscription plan. Yeah I would offer a little perspective back on the Vince thing. I was in NXT which is the you know the maybe you'll be in WWN or like the theater league. Yeah I was in that for three years and Vince was nowhere near that it was Triple H and John Laurini is you know but his decrees was maybe like whispering something to someone in the chair at raw I don't know but it would feed down he was so in control of everything that we would on Monday would be like hey on no more punches what no
Starting point is 00:33:21 one can throw a punch yeah Vince that he doesn't like him anymore what did he release I'm all you'd like did he say that? Yeah. Yeah, or did you really even though it is a game? It was a game of telephone. Yeah at the old days. It that was a real thing. Oh, all right Yeah, like oh no brothers like that's actually real or everybody don't throw their hands up because it's real now Yeah hands up. We're also doing a TV show when you watch Rocky all those punches. Yeah Also doing a TV show when you watch Rocky, all those punches. Yeah, it's not technical. It's bad for you. It's down like this and all haymakers.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah, loopy punches. Yeah. Oh, and then it would be like the next week. Oh, by the way, if a ref is counting to five, you have to count. If you get to five, otherwise we're fining you. And so the refs would start, like our matches on house shows and NXT would just end in DQs all night long. Because we have to be real now.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And I would think, is it, it's not real. People come to this because it's not. And so that Lauren, I just just so you know, that Lauren, I see was like, you know, uh, wrestling, you know, legendary royalty, his son, badass football player. Really? Oh dude. Ohio state played at Ohio state starting linebacker captain. Then went to the Rams, first round draft pick, like superstar. So my experience, my only experience with W is
Starting point is 00:34:31 I worked with Bill Goldberg a lot, cause he played my brother on a show called Skooled, and Goldbergs and all. And we had this football game, we were playing this football game, we were always quarterback, and he was my brother. And he was playing defense. And he said to me, he goes, I'm going to come and really, I'm going to come for your head.
Starting point is 00:34:51 So duck. Oh, God. So he would come and like swing and I'd have to duck. The one thing I got from him, and I'm like, I'm telling you, he was hitting those stuntmen so hard. Oh my God. And he said to me, he goes, you just come at me, I'm going you, he was hitting those stunt men so hard. And he said to them, he goes, you just come at me, I'm gonna hit you. And I'm telling you dude, he was running full speed,
Starting point is 00:35:09 and hitting them, he's 265, and hitting them, and these guys were sturdy. And you could hear the impact of the meat, and it was so over the top, and Bill's just, he's just balls to the wall. You know he played football at Georgia. I know, we also played in the NFL for seven years. So like, feeling him hit like that.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And I finally said, I said to Bill, I'm not even the stunt coordinator, I go, dude, don't hit them that hard, please. Because you're so big and strong that these guys were all 200. And he's just different. He's a different athlete. Yes. But I was like, is that how you guys would do things? Because when he would do like, he would jump and do somersaults. He was doing all his own stunts. Cause the
Starting point is 00:35:48 stunt guy, he ended up doing his stunts cause the stunt guy couldn't do what he was doing. And he was, he was at the time he was 53. I'm telling you that I was like, I was like, I can't imagine fighting you in the WWU because I'm sure he was, he was pulling his punches. He was a freak. You're getting hurt. You're getting hit. I'm sure he was he was pulling his punches. He was a freak. You're getting hurt. You're getting hit. I'm coming. So I obviously with the my MMA background, I know what if someone came here was like,
Starting point is 00:36:12 hey, I want to get to the UFC. I can go you go here. You start here. You go. You win here. You go here. When it comes to getting to be a WWE superstar, if some young my son is out there right now, he's eight.
Starting point is 00:36:23 He said, hey, when I'm old enough, what's the steps I have to get to do to get to the WWE? How, like, where do you start? Like, how would someone get started? How do they get there? It kinda changes every few years. Yes. There's not like one, like, path. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You know, cause if someone goes on and plays in the NFL, it's like, all right, play high school football, get really good, get a scholarship, play college, get drafted. It's pretty clear. And now, with the NIL deals WWE is kind of doing a similar thing if they find somebody with some interest My time there was like no Wi-Fi we barely had cell phones So it was like pretty word-of-mouth or some written handwritten email came down or whatever the hell now It is like they go Hey
Starting point is 00:37:01 if you're interested in here you could just Click on WWE calm and go to a thing and just say you're interested in here, you could just click on www.com and go to a thing and just say you're interested. And if they find- Put me in your database. Yes, if they find athletes out there who are doing great at gymnastics, football, lacrosse, anything, some of them become NIL athletes
Starting point is 00:37:15 that are gonna be training here. And there's so many different ways to do it. They have, their training facility is ridiculous. It's like a- Just the one in Orlando? Yeah. Is it just the Orlando spot? Yeah. And I think they're looking for some other- I bet.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Bases, but there's so much stuff there. Like the teachers there are insanely awesome. So wait, let me start. So let's say you do that and you get sent to that school. You were trained for how long? It really depends. You could train for six months and they go, hey man, this guy's got something special.
Starting point is 00:37:44 He's ready something special. And then we could always cover up anything that he can't do. Like there's a lot of people like me who can work around people. That, yeah. Or even like I had a match with Goldberg where it was just him spearing me a bunch and I worked around it.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And no matter how real it is to him, I made it into a job at some point. But he made it, yeah. Getting speared by Goldberg. But then, very real. So then they say you're ready, but you wouldn't go straight to the big leagues. Very likely not.
Starting point is 00:38:09 You would probably do something that was on. Now their minor league TV show is on television. It was on CW now. Yeah, two hours a week. And it's like, now you're getting, instead of the old, you're showing vignettes of someone coming to the show in six or eight weeks to get people affiliated with them you're now
Starting point is 00:38:26 you just have a TV show that goes here's the vignettes of these people here's the matches they have and when they show up you're already a star when you walk out the door to some this is that yeah and you get a half a million or a million people watching the show a week which is pretty good yeah but it's a you you introduce that to your audience and it's slowly becoming just like that's the system Is it like it is back in the day? Is it is it like the it's regional shows so you get big in your region? And then you'd go to another well sort of like NXT is the only region kind of right there do bounce around
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah, but they're in Florida, but they do bounce around but it is that's where you got to be unless you're Logan Paul or somebody Yeah, somebody else. The other option is be Bad Bunny and just be Massive. Yeah, and just jump in there. And if you want to mention like, hey, I like WWE, they're just like, they're very- When I wrestle on WrestleMania. Two of faults. What are you doing on WrestleMania?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Jump the line and jump in WrestleMania. He had a great match with Snooki at WrestleMania. That's right, Snooki was in it. Boy, they're doing whatever it takes. Snooki. But with a guy like Logan Paul who jumps on the scene in the wrestling community, are you guys, it's similar, like when Brock Lesnar came out of the UFC, we were kind of like, oh, fuck that guy. Cause he didn't earn like this. He didn't come up the same way. Or in comedy, you do comedy. It's like your fan base is different. You didn't start at open
Starting point is 00:39:43 mics and you didn't work the door at the comic store so you can get that hate So is it this is behind the scenes with like Logan Paul or some people like fuck that guy He just jumps right in WrestleMania to be fair Like that's been like Snooki and all that stuff like if you watch the first couple of WrestleMania's it's like Liberace He's there like movie stars every like Trump's there and a bunch of them. But a little different than what Logan Paul's doing. Very much different. But it also is- Even back in the Memphis territory of Jerry Lawler and Andy Kaufman, he was a TV anchor. It was always ongoing.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah. So for me, at first when we would do, we have no off season, we do all these months and I'm like, I'm at a middle of the card championship and we're getting close to WrestleMania. Here we go. And they go, okay, also this time, instead of all the people that we're fighting now we're bringing back Brock Lesnar, The Rock, this movie star and this other lady and someone from a tv show and you're like and I wrestled on 11 months of stuff and now for WrestleMania it's this and I used to be like this is bullshit I can't believe this as you get older and learn to go this snooki coming in means
Starting point is 00:40:42 10 000 times more views than me having my awesome match with my buddy. You slowly start to piece that all together. It benefits everybody. Yes, and you go, everybody's winning from this, whether I'm a part of it or not, and you grow up and go, you have to welcome them in. Especially like Bad Bunny, there's so many guys
Starting point is 00:40:59 in our audience, it was like, man, I don't know any of his songs, I didn't either. But I go, how many downloads did he have last month? Oh, 20 billion? Yes, put him in the main event, I don't know any of his songs. I didn't either but I go how many downloads did he have last month? Oh 20 billion Yes, put him in the main events. I don't care. 40 million Instagram followers Yeah, ridiculous and he busted his ass to get good at wrestling and he loved it Oh he did. So it makes it even cooler than that. Super fan. Yeah You know it's tricky is that like the the Super Bowl have the special guests at halftime and you're like, alright, they're not playing
Starting point is 00:41:24 have the special guest at halftime and you're like all right they're not playing WW is they are the special guest quarterback for the first quarter yes Trump was at WW he's been in the matches and stuff because he's great clothes yes he's great ridiculous yeah he was they were that for the first couple I forget I'm bad at remembering one two and three but like there one of them was like closed circuit and like at one of his Drums hotels and was in the front row But it was just it was always about getting somebody who's that everyone was talking about having to get views. Yes brilliant Yeah, it's marketing 101 and then and then how did comedy where'd you get the comedy bug?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Uh, I see you're entertainer. So it makes it's not that crazy with crossover I feel like very much like we were into working out a lot, but also at a young age But it was also I say this all the time like joking around together. All right, dad had a solo flex Yeah, dad did have a solo flex. Yes, I put it we put it's a good word That changes everything explains what you do is ten reps of 50 fuck yeah you do And you can adjust them. Yeah. And everyone said they wore out but I never know.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Well the Solar Flex guy in a lot of ways from my generation, the Solar Flex guy was the first, literally the first like male physique everybody was talking about. Yeah. It was like Charles Addams all that shit. But the Solar Flex guy was a fucking trending phenomenon in the 80s bring out the solar flex guy and literally what a babe yeah it was that was that was that sultry the commercial good to find yep and when he's taking his shirt off and all the girls yeah that guy literally that was the dude, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So then it was like, holy shit. That's Don Nemeth, our dad. Actually, it's almost getting ready for some- Yeah, girls had that dude on, back in the day, they would say things like, he looks like the Solo Flex guy, right? He was really muscular. Hey, we never had the fly things,
Starting point is 00:43:21 you never got the adjustable fly. We could not afford the attachments, yeah. It was the black and white- That was extra pieces. But it's funny, cause it was the black and white. That was extra pieces. But it's funny, because it was the black and white photos. Go back for a second. It was the black and white photos. It was such a different time, where he's taking
Starting point is 00:43:32 his shirt off right there. That was the fight. That was literally the picture. And what's crazy is he's not like in today's standards. He looks like a guy who is a jake. It was the opposite of the cover of Muscle and Fitness, which we would all read. Like, yeah, this is the guy.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Oh, wait. Like, that's Ryan Gosling guy, oh wait, that guy. But girls loved, in high school all the girls were like, that's the body. And they'd say, he's got a solar flex body. Solar flex? Right, I'm serious. You're old school, Don. It is.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And that still image sold more than a unit. And then they would always sit in your living room and never get used. Should we get some questions from a hardcore fan? Sinaz, do you have any legit wrestling questions for them? She's actually hardcore. Me and Brian are idiots. Oh, that's why you said Montreal Screwjob. Montreal Screwjob idiots.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Sinaz knows more about sports and wrestling. So my question is, when you kind of, it's for you buddy. I want to hear your real thoughts on the Spirit Squad. Why? Okay. Why? Because it was a definite like, whoa, what is this guy doing in this?
Starting point is 00:44:37 I love the Spirit. So to explain what this is, again, I was told keep your hair short and don't get tattoos. First of all, a lot of people are getting tattoos at the time, whatever, it's fine. We had to run those by the office. But they said, hey, one day, Kurt Angle, this could be the mentorship.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And then it turns out, they go, hey, one day you're a caddy. And then a couple months later, they go, hey, now you're in a male cheerleading squad. And I go, I go, this is so heartbreaking. So easy to hate. They were the best. Yeah. We didn't know that though. Are you on the right? All the way on the right.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, that's awesome. And that's why they created, it's like, it's easy to hate. Yes. It's going to create some sort of opinion. In my young head, I'm brand new. So I don't know. I'm like, I go, this is, my credibility is gone. Don't Google, don't Google me as the all time winningest
Starting point is 00:45:24 wrestler for kids. Like this is trash. We're just getting brought up to get beat up. I go, this is, my credibility is gone. Don't Google me as the all time winning as a wrestler for a kid. Say like, this is trash. We're just getting brought up to get beat up. I go, this sucks. And what was really happening was the boss said, oh, no one's gonna get more booed than these guys. Our first day, we couldn't talk because we were so booed. And I go, what a genius idea.
Starting point is 00:45:39 But still at the time you're like, this is my career. You don't see like, I'm screwed. You have pom poms in your hand for God's sake. Pom poms and we're just like getting beat up, but I go, you couldn't speak because it was so loud, the booze, cause everyone just, it was just like, everyone hated it. Yeah, I hated it right now.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But I get it when you're, when you're, I totally get where you're like, this is my life. And you're putting on, you're putting on this tank top with these pants and you have a pon pon and a, and a horn, and a horn and you're like this is my life. I did everything right mom. That doesn't mean Kurt Angle.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. Hey mom. Kurt Angle winning the tag titles of WrestleMaker. Nope. You're going to be in a green jumpsuit. And I assume the other four guys are like dude what the fuck are we doing? We all kind of were. Actually Mikey in the middle of that one on the right smiling.
Starting point is 00:46:23 He's into it. He loved wrestling so much that he embraced it. We were supposed to, he genuinely embraced it. We had to go take acrobatics class, gymnastics class. We could do like back handsprings, but it was all just to do that. The only thing that would make that worse is if you guys had to fuck each other.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah, we didn't have to. We didn't have to for the camaraderie. And just smiling through it the whole time. We didn't have to. We didn't have to. We didn't have to. For the camaraderie. And just smiling through it the whole time. It was a big smile. Three of us were heartbroken because our dream was to be, you know, be fighting Triple H at WrestleMania for the world title. You go, you can't live this off.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Well, you did fight Triple H and pay per view. Yes, that's true. And wow. That's tough. I feel bad for you guys. That's no joke. So you can Google me all you want as the all time winningest wrestler, but you see that face?
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'm like, I want to kill myself. Before they had matches they were showing up once a week on each show for two minutes doing a chair. So you probably thought am I even a wrestler anymore? No, no, this is it. The most brutal script ever. You're like, wait, to what? My first gig in Los Angeles, I'm on MAD TV. It's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And I pitch a dumb character, I was doing this dumb character, and the writers go, say less. And they come back, and the next thing I know, I'm in a blonde wig with high-heeled sneakers and a leopard-skin bikini of a Speedo. And I'm on national TV dancing as Pool Boy and asking dumb questions. And my father and the people I know, And I'm on national TV dancing as pool boy. Oh, I love that guy.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And asking dumb questions, yeah. And like my father and the people I know. And they're all like. Cause you came here to be like Al Pacino. There I am with Pauly Shore. That's how I was dressed. I love the pool boy. That's what I did.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And I would shave my body. Yeah. But it's not. Pauly Shore's played the straight man. But the number of people. The number of people that. Oh shit. People loved it.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah, I have a really nice body. You're the Solo Flex guy! Solo Flex. That's the Solo Flex body. Full circle, dude. And the amount of gay, because of my dong, because I would stuff my dong in that thing, the gay fan mail I got, especially from Chad.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Hey, fans are fans, Bubba. They're fans of fans. But I realized I did it. I never forgot I was dancing and kicking and stuff and doing all this stuff. And, cause you were like dance to a boy. You thought you were gonna meet Daniel Day-Lewis. No, what, yes, yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:48:30 That's what we all do. In my mind I was like, I've lost, I'll never work again. And I'm a failure. And I remember when the, I remember Natasha Kinski and I think Quincy Jones were there. And they were there and they were laughing and I was so embarrassed but I just went for it and I remember the producer said,
Starting point is 00:48:51 come here and he hugged me and I knew then it was kind of a hit and it didn't dawn on me. I was like, this might be a hit but when you think you look like shit, I was so embarrassed. You were embarrassed, yeah. My father was like,
Starting point is 00:49:04 I remember my father was like four years of college and I didn't blame him I'm like I don't know what to say about it back then by the way how many channels were there it was 1996 they were like five yeah Fox was new everybody oh you as a cheerleader might have been thinking I might wrestle for months of cheerleader and then just be fired forever Oh a hundred percent It's cool a lot of times when stuff runs our course and sometimes if the boss if this was his idea So we figured we'd at least be around for a while
Starting point is 00:49:35 But sometimes if he throws something out there like hey You're a pull boy now and you're gonna do this thing and two weeks in someone in the meetings like boss This is dumb as fuck and he goes. Yeah, you're right Anyway fire on to that and you don't know if you're fired or you're not but it was just like that's how it but it's like Hollywood you might get the acting job it is show business you might be a better actor than Brad Pitt but he's getting the lead and you're not so then how's it so from the spirit squad which is tough from that goes so from that to, what was your next character?
Starting point is 00:50:05 So yeah, so. So whose idea was that? So that ends and abruptly comes to an end and they shove us into a box and they mail it back to the training grounds. And I go, okay now, I go now I'm fired. Because I wasn't a legacy, I didn't have like a dad that worked in the business, I didn't have like somebody
Starting point is 00:50:24 in the meetings rooting for me, so I go, I assume I'm fired. I didn't have a dad that worked in the business. I didn't have somebody in the meetings rooting for me. So I go, I assume I'm fired. Dude, you're awesome. Look at that. I'm barely flexing there too, no big deal. Nice body. Solo flex. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Solo flex body again. Yes. But dude, that's hilarious. So then you go from spirit to this. Yes. Like your real identity. So I- You really missed it.
Starting point is 00:50:42 You're like, damn, I wish I was still a cheerleader. I wish I was a cheerleader so bad, oh my God. Where's my three homies? Yes. But the thing was, so we get sent back and it's like, you're free to just sit at home if you'd like and hope for the best or pitch ideas. But I said, I don't know how this works. They might just fire me in a couple of months. Let me pitch them ideas. And I go, can I go, Hey, can I fly myself in and go back to the school and just stay good and fresh and some reps just because I go, if I get another chance, I want them to want me as me, not some goofball character.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And I go, want them to need me on that roster no matter what. So first of all, showing them that you wanna fly yourself into the school and stay sharp, that probably saved my job. And then- That's that wrestler mentality. I wasn't even doing it to him. I was like, I can't sit down.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I have to go get better at this right now. And I, yeah. And so that probably saved my job. And then I pitched my ideas and they said, yeah, OK, so maybe me and one of the other guys are pitched to be a tag team because I was a year into training. So I still don't know what I'm doing. I'm just I want I'm a workaholic that wants to be good at this. And so it was me and another guy who'd been wrestling for five
Starting point is 00:51:43 or six years and he would actually been training me in between. And I was like, we pitch a tag team. We're going to be fr at this. And so it was me and another guy who'd been wrestling for five or six years and he had actually been training me in between and I was like, we pitch a tag team. We're gonna be frat guys in the college and we'll like do something. And they go, cool, we love it, we'll bring you guys in. I go, wow, this is great. And then a couple days, like two days before we fly out, we got an email that says, you won't be needed for the TV.
Starting point is 00:51:59 We're canceling your travel. And I go, okay, now I'm fired. Like that's it. So I said, I'll just keep training and when the call comes it comes and Eventually it didn't come and we did I ended up doing didn't come yeah, I was like holy shit That's a good sentence. We're doing we're doing a Florida show
Starting point is 00:52:14 It's where NXT is now like the training ground was a was originally Louisville, Kentucky now We're in Florida, and we're at a bar because it we're so detached from like the Olympic training grounds that they have now. We're in a bar show and it's a small ring like this, half the size of this and every time you hit it, the ground cigarette smoke goes up in the air. Like that's how bad and gross it is. It's funny. So I'm doing a thing where I'm like a cool bad guy with a big giant guy who watches my back and Cena came down, John Cena to watch us.
Starting point is 00:52:42 He was helping us out to get like some butts in his seat. He was a big time wrestler, John Cena. He used to be a big wrestler before he came in after John Cena to watch us. He was helping us out to get like some butts in his seat. He was a big time wrestler John Cena. Yes, he used to be a big wrestler before he came in after. Yes, we know. And so, and he's the man at the time, still is, but like at the time for the show, he's our guy. And he said, he says something like, hey, you should work on this and this.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And I was like, that's cool that he's saying this. Nice thing to me. A week later, I get a called in to do a dark match before the main real TV show on Raw, because clearly something he had said and saw us do So I get to do this I get to do a dark match and again It's a different time to where they go you got five minutes to do this basic as help and then while I'm out there They tell the ref like we do all our stuff. We exhaust like a false finish. We're going to the finish We're going to the ending and they go tell them they have two more minutes and to switch it up.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And I'm scared. You never get extra time. I'm scared to death, but they're trying to mess with you. One, sadly, half the times it's just to fuck with you. Yeah. Half the time it's, let's see if he's got it. Let's see if he can make something happen. I like that. So in a weird way, even for a second, I go, oh shit, what do we do? And I go, hang on. Hey, take this one thing, stay down. I'm gonna kick you and put this whole, okay, got it. We did this thing, put them back down, put a hold on. We did this other thing, blah, blah, blah. Bullshit in the weeds stuff that nobody cares about,
Starting point is 00:53:53 but we keep it going and get down to some other finish to the end, one, two, three, come to the back. And they, of course, they don't even say like, hey, great job moving on the fly. But there was like, hey, that was fine, thumbs up. And two bosses behind the scenes said, that was awesome. I go, I go, I'm not that good. I just got lucky because I was scared to death because I thought this was my one try out to go die or not. So we made something happen.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So right there, somehow I let them know that I could be trusted on the fly. And most of the time, the job is we have the time cues, we have everything set in stone for TV. It was an opportunity for yes, and that besides Sina putting in a good word. I adjusted to the thing that they threw it at us last second and Was able to tell somebody in the ring and the ref and coordinate it all and have it all Where someone in the crowd would never know that it happened and they go we need more guys like this. Yes Chris fucking born. Wow, that's great. Hey, can I ruin the show right now and go pee? Yeah, I got to pee too. Let's all go pee. Yeah. And be like the
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Starting point is 00:57:32 I need you know, I'm more flowing my life. Yeah, it's good. We take these every day Who else is writers? Friggin one of my Patrice Patrice was a writer Oh, you'll I wasn't there and it was short lived but everybody talks about it that's funny and then I always famously here like he doesn't write down stuff like he just goes yeah crushes yeah it was kind of funny that he was writing there he's probably hated it because at the time it was a there's been some rough times where it's like you kind of
Starting point is 00:58:02 get chewed up and spit out especially if you're a fan I'm not saying he was but I had friends were like hey, I got this interview for this job. I'm a fan Yeah, I go dude. Don't do it. You're gonna hate it a couple weeks later. They're done and they Different time now when Patrice to just stand up all the other comics would watch and it didn't matter who you were That's amazing and and Patrice is like I only spent like one evening with him And I was I looked at dove and was like, how smart is this motherfucker? He was just, his whole thing on dynamics, male, female dynamics, brilliant. But Patrice was a phenomenal. Absolutely killer.
Starting point is 00:58:35 So he was a super fan of wrestling too? I don't, I would never speak for him and say that he was. I knew people that were. And this claim to fame that some people would be like, dude, you know Patrizio he wrote there for a little bit. Wow. I read it somewhere I was like, that's a real deal. So I don't know if he's a fan or not but I go one of the guys that I Think is one of the funniest guys of all time and then comedians go this like you just said people go watch him Like that's amazing. Like how would a great compliment to have?
Starting point is 00:59:01 He was phenomenal. And if he was alive today, he'd be selling that. Dude, imagine if he had his own podcast. Be a savage. Because he was a real like, fuck the man type of dude. If he had a podcast, he'd let him rip. Yeah, he would have been, you're so right. He'd have like one bullet point on a piece of paper and then just crush it.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Just crush every day. He had wisdom. He just looked at the world differently than anybody else. So he would say things and you'd be like, never heard anybody say that. Like I've never heard anybody express a point of view that way. And you're like, I'm done. I literally, I remember sitting with him and I remember saying to myself, I'm not a smart guy. I'm just not. I'm not. It's okay. But I'm not. I'm of average intelligence and he's he's a different Yeah for he's able to say like a gross raunchy other side of the take that you can't say publicly
Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah, but also make it so funny and smart and you go Oh the way you said it you're kind of allowed to say that because it's so effing good and beautiful and smart Yeah, because a lot of comics will do this comics will say things that you can only think and you're like ah, right Yeah, that dude would say things and you would go I never Think it's so true. Yeah, what a killer man. I mean a killer So with your guys rest schedule now, you're not are you I know you're in the thick of it But do you get breaks like it it's different now like since kovat? I was still with WWE for like a year or two after COVID.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And it was like that grind was already down from five days a week minimum to four, three or four for some of us. And then after COVID, one or two days for some people a week. So because of that, so I, as of almost exactly a year ago, I worked for TNA, but I've also worked for New Japan. I bounced around AAA in Mexico. I kind of get to do my own thing and also do dates with TNA, but I've also worked for New Japan. I bounced around in AAA in Mexico. I kind of get to do my own thing and also do dates with TNA, but I'm their champ. I love everything about that company. It's really good infrastructure
Starting point is 01:00:55 with people behind the scenes and the cool things in the stores. Shout out TNA. Yeah, they rock. TNA. And it's a great show. It's on Access TV and the TNA Plus app, so it's a little tricky to find sometimes. Are you guys married? Kids?
Starting point is 01:01:06 I'm not. I thought you were asking if we were married. We're just close friends. We're just brothers. Yeah. So yes. No, no. Not married. Ah, yeah. It'd be tough. It'd be tough with that schedule. I have so many people. So I'm 44. There's guys that are wrestling like 26 sometimes and they're
Starting point is 01:01:21 like, yeah, I got two kids at home on my wife. And I like I 44 I can't imagine that I go I go home and I go man I got 36 hours to relax if I was like hung over and there's a crying baby. I'm like, I don't know if I can handle that Yeah, I have a girlfriend but she's an actor. So we both are like we can't even have a dog. Yeah Especially if you're working because you're both so dumb that you don't know how to be That's not what he meant Case scenario when you're an actor is is like you're you're maybe home three months of the year if you're lucky, right? Yeah, thank you. You're working. It's like that's why couples when they get married. I fucking I would see this I'd see like You know guys married to kind of famous person and was he famous too. He was
Starting point is 01:02:01 to kind of famous person. Was he famous too? He was... Or trying to be? He was kind of a... He was the kind of actor that you would see. You can only have one headshot in the household. Yeah. And what would happen was...
Starting point is 01:02:12 One for Dora Perru and one headshot per household. Yeah, because you're in... You're a fucking... Give him the rules. You're in, I don't know, Italy, doing a love scene with somebody even more famous. Your husband's back here doing some theater, some off-Broadway production,
Starting point is 01:02:26 and then guess what happens? Not good things. Yeah, I know she did. Not good things. Well, no, or some fucking. Oh yeah. Or some fucking goes on. He's with Scarlett Johansson for four months.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Yeah. Or she's with ex, she's with some stud. Yeah. And they're doing love scenes, and then you haven't seen, and your man is doing a fucking play, and you're already a psycho. Cleaning the house and walking the dog, and you're like, what the fuck am I doing? I remember knowing, I remember saying,
Starting point is 01:02:52 I remember saying to this actor, I go, I said, you did scenes with, and he's like, yeah, I said, and he goes, yeah, and that happened too. And I go, and she was married, and he goes, she was, I don't feel good about it, but she didn't give me any choice and I was like this fucking business, bro That's what happens when you want to marry somebody delicious who's super famous sometimes I can There's always a price lighter note Oh, sorry, it's sorry, but this is give you you guys
Starting point is 01:03:22 Are different? She's in way bigger things that I like I will, but like, wrestling is just so pervasive, right? I am not anywhere near the level he's at in wrestling, like, people know you on the street wise, but she'll be like, oh, I'm on this commercial, no one recognized me for my TV show I've been on for two years, but they keep asking me, are you dating Ryan Nemeth? And she'll be like, so fuck you. It's so good. It's like the Grimm guys. Are you dating Ryan Nemeth? It should be like so fuck you
Starting point is 01:03:46 Like the grip guys like guys. Yeah, the TSA. Yes Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah limo drivers. Yes Those are friends like we just want to go to a Halloween party this weekend It was like a bunch of like known horror people and face some famous actors and whatever They posted the gallery of photos and she texts me to comment oh my god Ryan Nemeth was here yeah so good yeah what's up good happens to me I'll be in like Calgary and some cop drive by Brian yeah I'm like I fucking yeah yeah I haven't been on TNA TV in two months probably but like but you know TV shows your lady on can you say yeah well she was on Gotham
Starting point is 01:04:21 Nights she's on the upcoming Final Destination she's been in a lot of scary things she's one I don't one I don't know if I'm allowed to say the next one Can you say yeah, well she was on Gotham Knights. She's on the upcoming final destination. She's been in a lot of scary things She's a one. I don't one. I don't know if I'm allowed to say the next one out, but it's huge She's a horror movie usually Wow actor. Yeah, oh cool, but I watch a bunch of horror movies She always looks different. She has brown hair blonde hair whatever free on a lorry on a lorry Yeah, you're up chin If you're if you're in movies and TV you gotta have a different look all the time your characters whatever but in wrestling You know a doll ofler, long blonde hair.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Yeah. Ryan M. at Bart Simpson hair. Yeah, I don't know. Whatever, you know? Bart Simpson hair. She's... There she is. That is not... That's her on the far right? The one at the far right.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Her stage name is Mary Gordon. Her stage name is Mary Gordon. She really stands out. L-O-R-E. L-O-R-E. Sorry, yeah. That is so funny. That's pretty amazing. That's so funny. That's so cool. That's her. There we go. Oh, cool. Oh, oh, sorry. Yeah, that is so funny. That's pretty amazing. That's so funny.
Starting point is 01:05:05 That's just so cool. That's her. There we go. Oh, cool. Oh, adorable. I like the other one better. Too bad about her looks. She's gotta work on her looks, huh?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Yeah. What does that other chick think? Bring her back. Look at her. She looks scared there. Actually, that's kind of a perfect mix-up of all the different looks. How did she even have that plan that way?
Starting point is 01:05:24 15 different looks in four different ways. Good or I.M.B.D. from each other? Oh yeah. What was that? Oh wow, she's in that movie. Oh and a new TV show, Hysteria. Yeah, I forgot about that one. But have you ever seen the smoking or the non-smoking commercial where the girl rips
Starting point is 01:05:41 her face skin off? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. That's her. That's where she falls. So when people always ask, they'll say, what did I even know know I'm talking about yes, that's her That's it huh I would say that she's like stop that's not my biggest thing it's like 11 years Oh, but that's what everybody is But she's an awesome actor and has done a lot of other cool things, but you know the face rip that's cool Yeah, you know the face rip. That's super I chill what you got for us?
Starting point is 01:06:06 First, I don't know if you mind or not, but can we cover the Nate Diaz drama on this show? You already did it on the job show. I would like to cover it. I would love to cover it. I mean, I just think it's, you know. Look at that pillow. Is this the right pillow?
Starting point is 01:06:18 I just think that, I mean, I'll read it. I'll read it. So Nate, so Brendan is very close to Shane Carwin. Shane Carwin's having real problems with CTE. He's doing better though. He's getting some help. He has something to work about it. He's doing better. And Brendan is very close to him. Brendan off air has always loved Shane. Shane's a great guy. Shane's a family man. Shane's an electrical engineer. Shane's he was a UFC champion. There's a lot of good things about Shane.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And Brendan was talking about it and Brendan's like, I call him the weeping giant, he's very emotional, he's crying about it. And then Nate Diaz says, Brendan, the big old pussy shop. Now I just want to say this, Nate's a fighter and Nate knows, he understands fighting and he's been, he's a and he's MMA royalty. He's put it all out there. And to me, it's interesting that he would poke a bear, like Brendan, because I don't care who you are.
Starting point is 01:07:15 If you weigh 155 pounds and you're in the UFC, I don't care when it is, I don't care if it's right now. If that dude grabs a hold of you, you're gonna die gonna die it's true and so Brendan has been kind of dealing with a lot of that hate from even Nate I think he challenged you in a way you were wearing Gucci boots that's your time at showtime you're right side I should have whooped his ass you're wearing Gucci boots I don't want to lose my job bigger and you were doing a thing and you guys I don't come off as a bully either exactly and you're always afraid of coming off as a bully and I think finally you're like fuck all this.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I'm done with it. That's because I don't I don't need it with comics with fighting like I don't have to work a job for the UFC. I don't need to get past that the comedy store. I don't need managers like me. I don't need the community to like me. Those days are done. You've also, it's not even why you didn't fuck with people. Your personality is, I could probably smack you in the face or punch you in the face and you go, Brian, stop doing this shit. For real. Like I've gotten in your face before,
Starting point is 01:08:19 we've had arguments, where I've got, I have a bad temper, so I'm in Brendan's face. He would pull my head off, but he's not doing that he's not even thinking that it does It's not where his brain cries, but you know do I want to do it with Nate? I know you have no issues. I backed him up when they were trying to feed him to Homs I'm like what the fuck you remember that whole man. I'm like this is not the way you treat Nate It's not how you treat Nate That's what I that's what bummed me out is because you've always been in Nate's corner
Starting point is 01:08:42 You've always said good things about Nate when he, not publicly, like you've always admired him for being the fighter he is. He's got that fighter spirit. And then you, this is where you go, oh buddy, I probably got 20 pounds on you. Now you got a lot more than 20 pounds. No, he walks right, he's not, so you said 155? He's 190. No, he's not.
Starting point is 01:08:59 No, no, no. I've been with him, 190. I have too. Anyway, he fought Jake Paul. He's well over 200 right now. Oh, damn. So you can catch. He's well over 200 right now. Oh damn Well, you can catch these hands. Yeah, but either way I probably got 20 pounds and he's not too far off. I'll snap your neck
Starting point is 01:09:12 Set up a grappling match and let me know how it goes for you Have one of your handlers read this tweet and get back to me. I like the hand. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and and and the reason you said a grappling match is because obviously a a Punching or MMA match would be a very bad idea correct, but you know Himself jujitsu guys, so sure sure and if you read the comments a lot of people Almost everybody is backing you on this You know because I think it was just uncool and I think Nate should apologize to you like as a Definitely was not in him him right but I don't get why the animosity.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Yeah it's just the elephant in the room it's weird like that's tough guys don't talk shit on social media like that doesn't make you a bad-ass dude. Have you ever seen me talk shit to anybody on social media? Have I ever started any of this? No but I just don't get I don't get that that was surprising to me that he did that. I've seen these Gucci boots at some point. Oh, they're referenced several times Zippers with corduroy on them. They're saying they scream they scream my bang guys. Yeah It's some of the spirit squad with a war. Yeah, perfect. Yeah. Yeah, and and I just thought that was the first time I've ever seen you I've ever seen you be honest Yeah, and I've ever seen I mean in terms of enough's enough like enough's enough where I was like you don't get to you
Starting point is 01:10:31 Don't get to treat me that way. I'm also not hard to find I'm all over Yeah, so my and I said this on the shop show like if you want to roll up one on one whatever you want to do But he won't though. He won't he always rolls with a posse, but like I said on the shop They're better be five to ten. You just come with three or four you get fucked up, dude. That's the truth and I don't want to do it I'm not looking for I'm a father of three. You're not apologizing though Oh, no, no, I'll fuck you up and then still take tiger to practice and not even think about it My I'd send that tweet on it. Okay, cool. I want to tiger's practice. That's been all day at the baseball fields I didn't think about it Shows up. Okay, cool. I run three miles day at the baseball fields. I didn't even think about it.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Shows up, oh yeah, cool. I run three miles every day, work out every day. What are you gonna do? It'd be a bad situation. It'd be a nightmare. But he knows that. I think he knows that. He knows that, that's why he's poking the bear.
Starting point is 01:11:14 But I don't get why. Like go look for a fight you're gonna get. I'm not gonna fight you, you know? Unless you want to and then, all right, you forced my hand. But again, talk to your boys Ask them how would go for him. They all know one of his coaches I trained with for a long time He has one of his best training partners. I've rolled with ask him how it went Figured out dude. Yeah, or just talk shit online. I'm just gonna say the safest bet
Starting point is 01:11:38 It's just put a couple posts out there. Yeah, you're fine. I'm just surprised again. I don't want to I was I don't need any drama It just bummed me out. It was nothing surprised me anymore'm just surprised. Again, I don't want to. I was I was bummed about it. I don't need any drama. It just bummed me out. It was nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing. It sucked. I was like, well, if it was about something you can take a side on, but this is just you basically had compassion for someone else.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Yes. Yeah, that's not no one's backing him up on that. No. Yeah. But it's what kids do these and he's too old for this shit. Like it was a younger fighter like coming at me. I'm like, I get it, bud. You're trying to make a name. I get it. Yeah, that's why I've been in the space a long time I get it. You can get views off it that stuff didn't bother me. I wouldn't respond to I'm like I get the game
Starting point is 01:12:12 He's old man. He's old enough to know better. It's like that's algorithm talk shit get it going out You know get the views. He's too old for this shit And end of the day you're gonna do nothing you do nothing. That's how this goes. They for this shit. Yeah, that's strange. I didn't get it. Bum it up. And end of the day, you're gonna do nothing. You're gonna do nothing. That's how this goes. He'll do nothing. Yeah. Yeah. And if you want, not hard to find, I'm all over, dude.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Yeah. Yeah. I like this new version of you, Brennan. This has always been there, I just don't talk about it. Yeah. Wish I motherfucking would. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's true. You can, you're still a fighter.
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Starting point is 01:13:41 order. Let's get back to the program. Oh yeah. I remember, I remember there was a guy who was a jujitsu guy and he was being insulting. And, uh, you know, he, he, he just kind of pushed Brendan to the point where it was like, it was a thing and Brendan just finally went, Hey, I'm a fighter. So just be careful now. Like for real, like you're, you're a jujitsu guy.
Starting point is 01:13:59 You're really good, but I'm a fighter and there's a difference. Yeah. So in pro wrestling, we say you've been repackaged as a new character. You're the heel. I got repackaged. I'm still baby face. Still baby face.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I wouldn't mind you. I wouldn't mind you taking another layer to you. Another layer. You're pretty good at talking trash. I wouldn't mind you the heel. I wouldn't mind if you just changed as the heel. Just start talking shit. Yeah, watch your music.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Here's around me, obviously. It's just not my thing. It's exhausting. I know. You don't like conflict. I don't mind if you just changed as the start talking shit. Yeah, watch it music is around me. Obviously, it's just it's just not It's exhausting. I know you don't like conflict. I don't either. I don't either I don't stay mad the problem with you and I's we don't stay mad. I just don't stay mad I don't know if they walked in right now. I was like, what the fuck man and I explained to him He's like, oh I get it. I'd hug him. Of course. I wouldn't come at him violently right away. No, that's not my thing No, I it takes To explain something you don't you probably shouldn't have to explain.
Starting point is 01:14:46 You would think my friend's really suffering and he has 10 friends that are suffering. You think, yeah, Sean makes sense with that, man. Yeah. I'm not saying let's hold the UFC's feet to the fire and Dana's feet to the, no, it's not their issue. This is a much bigger issue. I'm just talking about one particular case
Starting point is 01:15:02 who's a very close friend. Yes. Hey, can we maybe help this guy out? That's it, That's it. All right. You want to fight me over that? Yeah. Okay. But you worry about CT. It's also like everybody who fights and played football for that long worries about that. I don't though, to be honest. I don't. I feel like it would pop up by now. Right. I agree. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Well, that stuff's gonna help. It helps, yeah. I'm like BJ Penn.
Starting point is 01:15:27 I don't believe in CTE. A little massage to your brain, massage the CTE away. I'm not gonna make any claims, but I like it, so. I think John Cena also said he doesn't, was it John Cena who said he doesn't believe in CTE? John Cena's smarter than that. I would, did China make him say that?
Starting point is 01:15:42 He maybe said it, you know, 20 years ago. John, yeah, you can't hold anybody's feet to the fire like 20 years ago. Yeah, I know it. I didn't believe in it 20 years ago. No, no way. I for sure should have. I think-
Starting point is 01:15:53 I've seen it next to him on the plane when he's watching. Stone Cold. Stone Cold who said it, my bad. Stone Cold said it, I'm not a super- On that Vince documentary. Stone Cold's old school, man. You can't hold those guys accountable. Like, he's old school.
Starting point is 01:16:02 He's watching a concussion with me on the plane. He's watching Concussion with me on the plane. He's watching it on his laptop. Fake news. And he just keeps doing this. He's looking at it. And I was like, I just see him go like this. He'd go. And I'd look at him and he'd go.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Go back to the movie. I'm like, oh, jeez. And then we come off the plane and he's like, argh, argh, argh. Fogged up. Oh, yeah, we're doing shows together. Yeah, yeah. like, oh, jeez. And then we come off the plane, and he's like, rah, rah, rah, rah. I'm fucked. I gotta start taking more fish oil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta take more fish oil. I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Fish oil, yeah. He says to the doctor, he goes to the doctor, he goes, do you think, because I played football for pretty much my whole life and fought for 10 years, and do you think I have CT? Doctor goes, 100%. Shit. I said, 100%.
Starting point is 01:16:41 100%. So how much Jamba Juice do I have to take? You gotta take a lot of Magic Mind? We were doing one concussion seminar at a wrestling company and they were showing footage of like here's where probably a concussion was Oh God And someone in the clip was in the company from it was like a
Starting point is 01:16:56 I'm not gonna name names Yes But he stands up and goes Well me, he shouldn't have been doing this, this, this And then they started fighting with each other and then fighting with the doctor Oh God This doctor is trying to help us not you know dementia
Starting point is 01:17:08 next year yeah and you're defending that you had you had a kick that guy yeah sorry we do it bro like this is the problem yeah this is this right here yeah and we were all just like also this meeting is gonna be longer now yeah that's the part that pisses me off yeah five more minutes of the meeting. Yeah, it's a tough thing with you guys with wrestling and then with UFC history and football. I don't know what you do. It's just part of the game, dude. It's like what you sign up for.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Some guys have it. Some guys don't. The majority don't. It is a thing that you sign up for and there's a possibility that it happens. There's ways to avoid it. There's smarter training that sometimes you can't avoid. Sometimes, yeah. Some guys are just prone to it and then a lot of guys, it's like... If you're a boxer... They didn't start off on the right track in life. Some were born with their wirings all
Starting point is 01:17:54 fucked up and they blame it on fighting or football or wrestling. Well, drugs and alcohol don't help. A lot of times they end in that. But again, they could be wired. They're addicts before they came in. Is the steel chair going to hit me directly in the face and head or somewhere over here? Yeah. We know now. Now to be fair, before we had any of these talks, when I was in the Spirit Squad and I'm fighting Shawn Michaels and Triple H, I'm like, here we go. I'm taking it on the head because that's what I saw my favorites do 15 years earlier. And then we got to a point where
Starting point is 01:18:21 we're like, oh, we're doing a show that's choreographed. We can get really good at having it swing toward a head and shoulder, but I could turn it this way and I could put 90% of the focus on the shoulder and the crowd sees it. It's like that is the art that we're doing. We're getting punched in the face 20 times. Four of them are gonna be real sometimes,
Starting point is 01:18:39 that's part of the deal. But to be really good is to make that happen to where I've gone to the back and my boss goes, I said no head shots. What the hell I go What might want to check that back because I'm just really good at my job now Now that we know what we're doing But before then I go I watched mcfoli and rock and stone cold every night They just over right over the top of the head and I go my turn. This is my dream and it's like now
Starting point is 01:19:01 I don't ever want that again. It's also a great thrill I've only had a few times you probably have a million times where the referee or your opponent will whisper like shit Are you okay? Are you okay? You're like? That's always fun going to the back and having the boss go what you like I'm just doing my fucking job Everybody else sorry brother. Yeah, anyway, why is that other match in the main event now that I'm done? All right got it Oh, yeah, got it. That's my favorite part about wrestling. Yeah kind of like The whole thing is an illusion for the crowd But if you if that illusion covers cross over into the people in on it know how it's made
Starting point is 01:19:35 So hard to work the guys on the show and you can get them sometimes not on purpose You're just trying to your job great Yeah, and you have to have some of your best friends with the people who watch go man. Are you okay? You're just trying to do your job great and you have to have some of your best friends of the people who watch go Man, are you okay? You're like, yeah You know the thing you and I did when I was an NXT. Oh god, we tell you it's something top secret. Yeah Let me get my hand on my pants. Yeah Every Wednesday was promo day with dusty roads American dream dusty roads legendary Yes, you know the best guy to be teaching promos, but I have a ball time of all time
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah, but I got really sick of doing wrestling promos of, hey, next week, whatever. So I treated every Wednesday as like, well, Dr. Tom, who's the head trainer, gave me like all this Andy Kaufman stuff, like DVDs, books and all that. He goes, this'll be your guy. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:16 So then I wanted to do something pretty good, you know? So I said, hey, next week, instead of a promo, can I do a thing where we call my grandma live and like to say happy birthday because she just loves wrestling She loves the women's wrestlers it and so I had all the girls are what 90th birthday or something I don't know man. Yeah something like that And she's in a nursing home and it'd be really special and then dusty was like that sounds great his assistant assistant was like Let's get the technology will connect your phone to the camera and on the speakers, whatever. So I tell these girls, although the divas at the time, women wrestlers, we guys dress up real nice.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I'll wear a suit and I like, I got, uh, the helium tank for balloons. Like I'm going all out for this birthday thing. And, uh, so they're like, this is so adorable. Great. Let's do it. And so I go up there and say, Hey, like I said, doing a promo or a special thing for my grandma and so the phone is connected Hardware to the arena sound system it rings this is live there's 80 people on the roster watching this and
Starting point is 01:21:16 a Voice that's not my grandma answers and goes hello. I said oh is Patricia Wendling there's my grandma there who is this and it's like on the speakers now and the girls are like, what the hell? And I go, oh, it's her birthday. This is her grandson, Ryan. And he says, hold on. All right, now I'm getting a little uncomfortable because people are watching this. And the voice comes back and goes, are you the next of kin? And I'm like, hang on.
Starting point is 01:21:39 No, her son would be, but I'm the grandson. This is Ryan. What's the deal? Oh my God. And the voice then says, this is whoever know the doctor whatever she had a massive event And we don't she's uh you know unconscious and I go What the fuck happened I yanked the cord out and scream and like leave and like the girls start crying up there They're just standing there holding balloons And the voice on the other end I will reveal to you now is Nick. Yes! Yes! Well done!
Starting point is 01:22:09 And I believe you said you put a grocery bag over the phone to disguise your voice. Well done! So I go outside and I'm like yelling on the phone and then the head trainer comes out like this and he goes, you better leave because I know if my grandma died on the phone in front of everyone. I'd want to go home for a few days and I go, you, he goes, good work. And then, Oh my God. I thought like, fuck yeah, dude. That's so awesome. When was this?
Starting point is 01:22:39 Were those girls pissed? The divas pissed? Or they get the business? No, months on end. Everyone would say hey We're so sorry that happened. Very good. Oh, you're listening and you're in NXT in 2013. Sorry Yeah, that's great. But that's to me that was wrestling. I thought this is what it's about Wait, has that aired or this is no that was private for the roster That was just like, you know but if to me it was every week of like, how can I do something like that? Because anyone could do the body slams and jump.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Yeah, that's cool. Finding something real that you can make more real or into a real thing. Like, again, it's like tricking the guys you work with. Oh, this is real, we got him. Andy Kaufman makes with being good at your job. Grandma's high, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:23 What else you got, Jim? Massive cardiac event. She didn't die. Yeah. Yeah. What else you got, Jim? It's a good one. Massive cardiac event. She didn't die. Event, yeah. She had a massive cardiac event. By the way, well done, Nick. Well done.
Starting point is 01:23:32 I knew not to say she's dead or heart attack. The doctor wouldn't say heart attack, they would say cardiac event. Yeah, event, event was the word. That's great. Do you guys actually have a heart out? Are you guys good? It's 1140.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Get a shot now. All right. What time's the next one? We eventually have to be in Glendale at 2.30 but... Just give us like two more. Two? Yeah. I'll start with that one.
Starting point is 01:23:50 This one? Yeah. So I found this pretty cool clip. It's like the first interview a ton of these USP stars had and I thought it'd be kind of fun to look at it. Give up? Like what is that? Like that if you give up, you certified a loser.
Starting point is 01:24:05 If you try, you at least win. He's such a kid there. 16. What's your name? Pappi Dullon. What kind? Do you have a fart nickname? Me coach calls me Pappi the Pappi Dullon once a week. Pappi the Pappi?
Starting point is 01:24:17 Whoa. So you got a message for your family or for your opponent? Um, no. What does it mean to you to be representing your country in the Olympics? Everything. I mean I set a goal in front of me when my daughter passed and I said I was going to be on this Olympic team and I was going to go get a medal and that's what I'm going to do. I'm not going to let her down. Dana White, President of the Ultimate Fencing Club. Oh wow. With hair. You had hair there. I feel good. Thank you very much, James. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:24:45 We're very excited. We've got a sellout crowd here, 5,000 people. Rev, I'm ready to go. Thanks, Bruce. I'm back here right now. Again with hair. I'll be interviewing the fighters as they come out of the Octagon and I'll be previewing the fights, the final fights,
Starting point is 01:24:58 in each weight division. Shouldn't even give up. Yeah. Wow, that's cool. I really like the earpiece being the size of a Beats headphone on the side of his head. Everybody's voice was so high. I like the M&M diet, bleached hair.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I'm sick. Here's one more guys. So SeaWorld is always under a bunch of controversy, but the Orca Show had a little extra added love to it the other day. I love that I saw this already. And there's a video to show you what happened. Oh, there you go. Are they just gonna come back up and splash her with it? Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Yeah. Uh-huh, a little fish poo. That is a peaceful protest, and I accept it. Respect it. And there's all that poopy water. Right over the top. Shhh. They warn you, that's a water. Right over the top. Shhh. They warn you, that's a splash zone.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Yeah. It must have done it on purpose, all right? There you go. He's probably sick of all that bullshit. Yeah, I know. How can I get my voice out there? Yeah, he's like, John, how can I get out of here? I can't verbally communicate, but from here on out,
Starting point is 01:25:58 I can shit at you. Because he had to left it there, swam around, came back, and went, here we go. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, youam around, came back, and went, here we go. I appreciate that. Yeah. Well, you know when you're swimming in the ocean, that's just fish poop everywhere. So why not in their tank?
Starting point is 01:26:12 Yeah. That's it, Chin Chin. That's it. Yeah. Fellas, this was fun. Yeah, thanks for having us, guys. The Nemeth Brothers podcast. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:26:22 It's the next big thing. Yeah, it is. Hell yeah, it is. Hey, listen, listen don't be surprised we've had a lot of people on this podcast before they were and then they become rather large. Eventually get their own studios. Yeah nice. What are you guys doing out of now? Sometimes we do it together in LA but usually we're in our own places doing zoom in and out. Zoom. Yeah, we're flexible that way. That's cool Yeah, well, she guys the best man Killing it brother. Yeah. Thanks guys. You got a standing invite

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