The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK Ep. 1037 | Forrest Galante

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Animal expert and conservationist, Forrest Galante joins the show for the first time! The guys talk the most venomous snakes, shark attacks, animals that are known for hunting HUMANS, the Ramree Island crocodile massacre, Forrest and his team saving the life of a teenager attacked by a crocodile, grizzly bears possibly being reintroduced to California, Forrest's upcoming trek to Colombia to do conservation work with Pablo Escobar's hippos and much more! True Classic - Fall is here. It’s time to step up your game. Right now, you can unlock big savings when you bundle packs. Just go to my exclusive link https://trueclassic.com/FIGHTER #sponsored Magic Mind - https://magicmind.com/

Yes we did, cause we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Forrest Galante! Woo! The beast master. The animal expert.

The beast master. The guy who knows everything. He's already kind of gotten me excited. I love talking animals. Everybody laughs at me. You came in with some animals. But yeah, it's a hassle to bring in animals, I assume. I mean, it's not so bad when you live in Santa Barbara.

I'm an hour away, so. Yeah, yeah, not bad. It was pretty easy. He just went into his kid's room, and he was like, take this, take this, take that. Swear to God, those two are from my kid's bedroom. Yeah, I know. Swear to God.

Did we get to handle these animals? Yeah, of course. I can say when, I'll bring them out. I have questions. Let's shoot. Before we go into that, I got so many questions. Yeah. Now, you're, I'm listening to you go into that, I got so many questions. Yeah. Now you're, I was listening to you on Rogan

and you're the kind of guy that answers all the questions I like. Like, you just, you're just as into this, the danger, the danger of things. Venomous snakes, we were talking about, unfortunately a friend of yours passed away yesterday. Literally yesterday, yeah. What? Green mama.

What happened? A guy by the name of Dingo Dinkelman, he's a fantastic guy, has beautiful wife and two kids, and he was handling a mamba and it got him, and he had an allergic reaction. I mean, now mamba is already incredibly potent venom to begin with, but he had an allergic reaction

to the venom on top of that, put him in a coma for a month, and he actually passed away. That's terrible. If a green mamba real quick, but why was he handling the mamba? What was he doing? What's the conditions? It's a good question.

How can he just skim past that? Well, it's his thing. Handling it with his bare hands. But I'm sure he's done it before. Look, I don't endorse this thing kind of thing because I don't agree with it. That being said, Dingo was the utmost professional. He was better with snakes than anybody I've ever seen.

But when you free handle these things, you're always signing a liability waiver with God or whatever you want to call it, right? Like it's only a matter of time. It's kind of part of the game. It's part of the game. To me, I was with a guy who trains bears, grizzly bears and big cats.

And I said, when do you know? And he said, well, a grizzly bear will tell you way ahead of time when he's not in the mood to be trained. Yeah. And I go, what? He goes, he'll start clicking his jaw. Right, that? Or cowboy walking.

You know what the cowboy walk is? Is that what it is, the cowboy walk? The jaw clicking is like, it's a sign, like they start popping their jaw. Like, leave me alone? Okay. Yeah. And then there are animals that don't give you a warning,

like a jaguar that'll just go, today I'm gonna kill you. But also, but mamba snakes are like, you're a snake, bro, I'm a mamba. I'm a poisonous snake. That's what I do. They're a walking warning to not fuck with them, right? They really are. And was he doing like a educational video

or just he's doing it for the gram or something? I couldn't speak as to what the video he's doing was, I have no idea, or even if he was doing a video. He's building a zoo currently. And so part of owning a zoo is working with all these animals. And so part of owning a zoo is working with all these animals. And you said they're very aggressive mambas.

Mambas are the only snake in the world that I would consider aggressive and not defensive. They will actually come towards you. They're terrifying. What about king cobras? King cobras are not like that. They're pretty placid overall until you mess with them and then they'll defend themselves.

Now would you handle the mamba or the king cobra? Because you have kids, right? like that. They're pretty placid overall until you mess with them and then they'll defend themselves. Now would you handle the Mambo or the King Cobra? Because you have kids, right? So there has to be a level of pros, cons. Pros, I get some cool content. Con, my kids don't have a problem. I've handled all those things, not all, but I've handled many venomous snakes and stuff. I don't do the free handling anymore. When I was younger and I was dumber, in my early 20s, I'd do it all the time, I'd grab it. And not, this was before YouTube,

even, well, I don't know if it was before it existed, but before I had one, I've only been on YouTube for a year or any of those things, but I just grew up working with reptiles and I would gladly do it when I was in my 20s and an idiot. Now I don't do it, I don't free handle. There's no reason to. If you and I, if we're not allergic to the venom, say,

if you and I were to be bitten by a green mamba right now, say on the foot, what happens and how long do I have? You have about, I'd say three hours to get anti-venom in your system. It's a long time. And if you don't get, and even with the anti-venom in your system in three hours, you probably have a 50-50 chance of making it.

Oh wow, that dangerous. Maybe, and then no matter what, you're gonna have life-50 chance of making it. Oh, wow, that dangerous. Maybe. And then no matter what, you're going to have life-changing side effects on it. Like paralysis in a leg? Yeah, you're going to have skin rot. You're going to paralysis. You're going to have joint deterioration, just depending on what snake it is that bites you and what their venom is,

whether it's hemocytote, et cetera. What about a banded crite? Banded crites are bad. Well, if you just went through 20 snakes and made this hot guest morning. There's me holding one right there. What's that word? There's me holding one right there. A banded crite. Banded crites are bad. Well, if you just went through 20 snakes, and they just caught this one. There's me holding one right there. What's that word? There's me holding one right there. A banded crite.

That's an elegant sea snake, very closely related to the banded crite. And they're super dangerous, right? Most poisonous. Small mouths, so less likely to bite you, but if they do, it's not good. Trouble. Yeah, it's not good.

Is there a snake that's like, what is the most poisonous snake? The inland taipan from Australia is considered the most venomous, poisonous when you eat it. Right, but venomous is the inland taipan. So if you get bit by an inland taipan, It's not good.

More than a tiger snake, more than a brown snake. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna die. Wow. Yeah, I'd say your odds of survival if you get antivenom in an hour, or probably maybe 25, 30%. What? It's hard to find the venom, right? Like, let's say you brought one in today,

you wouldn't, let's say you brought this Taipan in today, and you're like, here, Brennan, hold this. I'm like, cool, and it bites you in the neck. It's not like I can go down to the CINO hospital and get the antivenom. Nope. So what, you got to chop her out of here to fricking? I mean, there's probably like the San Diego Zoo

probably has some antivenom, you know, because of what their reptile collection stuff, but these are, this is an Australian snake. So the only place you're naturally, so anti-venom doesn't have a long shelf life, right? So when they make anti-venom, you usually have a month to use it before it expires. So unless they're constantly in anti-venom production, the anti-venom is useless. What a nightmare, man. You better believe that in Southern California, there's not a lot of anti-venom being made for anti-venom is useless. So you better believe that in Southern California, there's not a lot of anti-venom being made

for inland taipans every day. And you want to hear something even crazier? I could buy one of those right now if I wanted. I could probably go on Craigslist and find one for sale. Let's do it. That's a way to assassinate somebody, send a taipan in a box. Don't give them ideas, man.

You can just buy an inland taipan. Yep. I can't speak, every state's different and there's certain listed animals and stuff. If you want one bad enough. Oh, man. Yeah. You can just buy an inland type ant. Yep. I can't speak, every state's different and there's certain listed animals and stuff. But if you want one bad enough. Oh, definitely get one. We'll find one. Yeah, and I'm not talking, I'm talking about legally.

I'm talking about legally. If you want one illegally, no problem. That's what I'm saying. But I'm talking about you can legally buy most of these animals. How stupid is that? It's wild. Cause what are you gonna do with it?

Because people want something deadly in their house just cause they have it? The problem is, and I'm not like against having venomous snakes. I don't want them. I've had them, I've done it. I'm not doing it anymore, not with kids in the house. No way.

But if you've spent your life working with snakes and you're like, I love cobras, I'm obsessed with cobras, I'm going to breed cobras, good for you. But then you have to understand that you're signing a mental waiver when you've made that decision, right? That if something happens, that's on you, right? And the problem is everybody gets this sort of God complex

of like nothing bad can ever happen to me, I'm really good with these animals, and then complacency kicks in, and then you make them sick. You're too comfortable. Yeah. But before you had kids, was there a time when your wife got pregnant,

she's like, okay, it's time to get rid of that. No, I've never been a big keeper. I travel too much. I'm on the road like 250, 300 days a year. Damn, brother. Yeah. That's a lot. That's why all the critters I brought

are out of my kid's bedroom because. We're like, what you bring is like a goldfish and a turtle. Yeah, totally. Let me ask you this about sharks, since you know about sharks too. Sure. Are sharks, when a shark bites you, whether it's a tiger, bull, great white,

when it bites you and you die. You got bit? Twice. By what? Lemon sharks both times. Okay, okay, don't count. So when a shark bites you, do you think that that is the shark saying,

get out of my territory? Or is that the shark saying, you look tasty? Most of the time, it's what they call an investigative bite. So if you go and wanna eat something, say it's a cheeseburger, right? You So if you go and want to eat something, say it's a cheeseburger, right? You go and you look at that cheeseburger, you pick it up, you smell it, you feel it,

you're like, oh, this does look good. This is gonna taste good. Sharks don't have that, okay? Their way of touching it and smelling it is to take a little nibble and go, is that tasty? Do I want to eat that? And 99.9% of the time, the sharks go, no, I don't. That's a human. That's gross.

Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Why? Because they're so fatty? We're low in fat? No, we're low in fat compared to a sea lion or something. Not all of us, right? Not all of us.

Not all of us, sure. There's some fatties. Well, that's why that might be why Florida gets a lot of... Yeah. But yeah, no. So the short answer is sharks are not trying to eat us. Sharks are not pissed off at us. Sharks are not being defensive. They're just taking a nip to see if you're something worth eating. And for almost all sharks,

tiger sharks are kind of the rare exception. For almost all sharks, you're not on the menu. But tiger sharks will eat you. The thing about tiger sharks, they'll eat anything. They found license plates in tiger shark stomachs. They found tires. They'll eat anything. They're the dumpsters of the sea.

And they can get up to 1500 pounds or something, right? Something like that, yeah, they get big. There was that kid in Egypt, I don't know if you saw him, went swimming, he was calling to his death. It was one of the most heartbreaking things I've ever seen. Yeah, I don't think they found his body, did they? They went and killed that tiger shark.

They killed the shark, so they found it. And cut the body out of him. But he was dead. Oh man. But that whole situation, do you know the story with that? No. No. I do, I think, let me see if I'm right. They were dropping lamb carcasses off a boat, very close to their tire.

Sharks used to go there. Then they stopped doing that. I don't know if they stopped, but you've got the story right. They used to discard old livestock there and it was known that the sharks would come around and there was like big signs, no swimming, don't go in the water, whatever. The last time they dropped the livestock, I have no idea, but it was a known spot where the sharks were conditioned to feed on mammals.

And so when your sharks are conditioned to go, oh, boat or swimmer or anything means food, it wasn't like this tiger shark was a rogue tiger shark that came in and just there. They were just there, they were all there looking for food. How old was the kid? I think he was 19 or 20. He was Russian.

Why? From Russia. Russian, I don't think he spoke the language. He probably didn't read the signs. No. God. Damn. That is so fucked up.

That's terrible. It's awful, man. Your, the private tour of the world's largest aquarium? Yeah. That's an arowana on there? That is, yeah. Colored pink for YouTube. Uh-huh.

But it wasn't pink in real life? Uh, I can't recall, to be honest. Because if he's an Asian arowana, they're super expensive, super rare. The blood dragon, the bright red ones. This guy had one? They didn't, but the place I'm working in India has some. I think in the US-

They're illegal here. They're illegal here, yeah, exactly. I'm an owner of two Arowana's. Dude, my man. Let's go. I love those fish. What's up, dog? Do you know about Arowana's?

No, they're badass. Educate him right now, dude. They're badass. They look like that thing, slightly're badass. Educate him right now, dude. They're badass. They look like that thing, slightly less pink. And they're just these big, mean, apex predator fish. They sit on the top of the water. They get big. They'll kill anything that can fit in their mouths.

And they're just beautiful. There's no other word for them. They're just a beautiful fish. They're like lucky fish, the dragon fish. Something about water and predators is of course always so terrifying because you can't see it. You're just going to feel it. But B, these arowanas will jump because the,

what do they call them, monkey fish? Cause they would jump out in Brazil, right? Oh, that's, in Brazil would be arapaimas. Arapaimas, but they'll take out. Arapaimas, I was telling you, it's not arapaimas. Come on. You got to get that right. But I have this huge, you know, 300 gallon tank with the airwannas swimming back and

forth but you have to have a heavy lid because they'll freaking jump out. They'll push it off. Yeah. They're awesome fish. Oh, I do. My favorite fish of all time. Is there, is the most dangerous animal to humans a saltwater crocodile? Well they say there's four animals that actually choose to hunt people.

See if you guys can guess okay You named you just named one of them. Well, you got three to go Well, I mean Polar bear nice. That's two polar bear for sure. So I want a crocodile polar bear I Would say you could say mosquito but that you could I'm talking about actual like yeah. Okay, so killers Yeah, that hunt that hunt humans. That hunt humans, that will actively seek out

and hunt a human. Tiger. Where at three, you got one to go. That's right, in the sandabans or whatever. Sandabars, yeah. Yeah, sandabars. Tigers and then, hold on, bull sharks? Good guess, good guess.

Tigers? No, it's another mammal. It's another cat. It's another cat. Cat narrows it in for it. Jaguars. Close, leopards. Leopards? Leopards, so those are the four animals. Leopards will hunt humans. It's another mammal. It's another cat. It's another cat. That narrows it in. Jaguar. Close, leopards. Leopards?

Leopards, so those are the four animals. Leopards will hunt humans. It's unbelievable. Like a leopard, once it figures out, and it's usually a case of like habitat is disturbed, it's natural prey is gone, and then they're like, oh, that little kid looks tasty. Right.

But once they figure that out, a switch flips in their brain and they go, humans are easy and they taste good. And they start hunting people. Damn. Dude, and they're so silent. You're not gonna feel it. They're gonna just-

They live in the skyscrapers of Mumbai and places like that. They live in downtown cities. Yeah. And they take dogs and they take pigs and they take kids. Yep. Fuck. It's crazy.

And they're big. I mean, some leopards can get up to a hundred pounds. Oh yeah, they're big. They're big. Big enough to kill you. I was recently in India working with this animal named Love. Okay. They called him Love because he loved to eat people. 23 human beings Love had eaten.

What kind of animal? A leopard. What? Yeah, it was a conflict leopard from India. Why is he still alive? I'll tell you the whole story. It's awesome. It's awesome story. So there's a conflict leopard from India. Why is he still alive? I'll tell you the whole story. It's awesome. Awesome story.

So there's a conflict leopard in India named Love, eaten 23 people. You call it a conflict leopard. Conflict leopard means he's now made that decision. He's eating people. Yes. So he's in human wildlife conflict, right? So there's two options.

You either shoot them in the head or you put them into captivity, right? We're at a time and place in human history where you can't shoot every animal in the head that comes into conflict with humans, because that's most animals nowadays, right? If you think about it, almost 10 billion of us in the world,

it's nowhere near that many leopards. So love got caught and trapped, and then this guy, Anant Ambani, who's this Indian billionaire, has the world's largest private rescue and rehab. It's the most inspiring thing I've ever seen in my life. It's literally like I get emotional even talking about it. It's the most incredible facility on earth.

He heard about love and went and rescued it from, the problem is there's a lot of conflict animals in India. But when they catch them, they go into a crate, like a metal, or a concrete box like the size of this rug, right? And then they live in that for the rest of their life. So this guy heard about love, went and sent like a convoy of people down there, got them, brought them back to Vantara, the wildlife rescue and rehab, and he now lives in this acre, gigantic, stunning preserve. But that's all good and fine. But what's so incredible about love is-

You still feed the people? No, that's a great guess though. Mafia. What's so cool about love is the reason he was eating people is all of his teeth had rotted out. He had had some kind of jaw infection. So all of his canines had been falling out. So he had to go for the softest, weakest, easiest meals,

which are us. Oh my God. And so that's why Love had developed a diet for humans. And so they found him, they got all these rotten teeth out of his mouth, whatever. And he's been so positively conditioned now that you can walk up to the cage, and it's not really a cage,

the enclosure is what I should call it, and he comes and rubs next to you and starts purring. Like, he's a whole different animal. They've changed his psyche because he went from being miserable, broken, like rotten teeth, miserable mouth, sad, murderer. What a redemption story. Yeah, and now he just comes up and goes.

There's an old book called The Maneaters of Kuman. I read it. Yeah, Tim Corbett. Yes, you know it. It's about a tiger hunter who would go and try to find the tigers. And one tiger had killed literally something like 230 people. As many people as fit on a 747.

Yeah. I'm trying to remember the name of the tiger. But they're such amazing. But you said you were in India? Yeah. Let me ask you this, because after you have a particular set of the guy here. But they're such amazing- But you said you were in India? Yeah. Let me ask you this, because I have to have a particular set of skills. You have like an age, like when someone wants to do, like when you want to go do this stuff, how's that work?

How do they get like, I'm sure there's other people in your field, how do they decide you're going to do it, you want to do it? How's this work? Good question. I mean, mostly I just get, people just reach out to me, you know, social media, my website, whatever, and say, hey, you know, here's who I am, here's the situation, are you interested in helping? Pete Slauson To bring awareness to it or? Jared Sussman Awareness or, you know, my particular skill set is more on the conservation side.

Pete Slauson Yes. Jared Sussman So, it's like, yes, I do a lot of media and a lot of like, sort of public education. Pete Slauson Which helps, yeah. Jared Sussman Which helps, but really really my skill set is in wildlife conservation. And that's why you got involved in the first place. Exactly. That's cool.

Could you swim in anywhere in the Amazon and not worry about anything killing you? Oh yeah, I've swum in the Amazon a lot. But I'll tell you what you're always scared of. Black caiman? Nah, screw black caiman, they're puppy dogs. Really? Candiru. Candiru will actually swim up your dick.

Up your pee hole. Bingo. Is that really true? Will they really do that? Yeah, yeah. So they're attracted to the urea. Fuck you! Yeah.

They are? Yeah, they are. They will go. So that's a real thing. They will actually swim up your dick. Dude, when I'm in the Amazon, when I'm in the Amazon, I pee like this, standing out of the water,

just in case one decides to salmon up my stream. Seriously. I'm that scared of it I am too now. Here's the thing. I don't know if you knew this Oh, he looks like yeah, the candiru has backward-facing bar. I do know Bro, there's only one way to get him out which is to take a nice slice and open it up and pull him out, bro How's he know to how like what was the first? I? Can't take it. I thought it was myth and it's real and

now you're telling me it's fucking real. Why is he swimming up Wieners? Because he's an asshole and because Adam and Eve bit that apple and human beings are destined to suffer forever. Like how did they figure out just just fly up and thou shall till the earth and I will create candira to swim in your dick. That's all you need to know, bro. It's terrible. But he looks like it, but why is he? So it's a parasitic catfish that's attracted to urea, which fishes gills make. So what they do is they go into a fishes gills and lodge in with those spines, and then they feed on the blood and things

that they are able to make from their spines. Now urea that fish gills produce is the same thing that's in our urine. So it's exactly where they're- And thin. You got me? Yeah. Fun, huh?

Tie your dick down. I'm putting a little- Oh no, I'm just not swimming in there. I'm putting a tiny little, like, I don't know, I'll find a little bandaid and put it on the end of my dick. 100%. And then some dental floss and just tie it off. God damn it.

No dude, it's- Kill all candida. It's just not worth the risk. I'm good. I don't need to swim in them. It's just not worth the risk, I'm good. It's not worth the risk. I don't need to swim in them. No, it was- But you're not worried about a 15 foot black caiman?

I mean, I wouldn't swim at night in the areas. You would not? No, not at night. Because that's when- That's when they're hunting. But caiman are alligators, essentially. So they're fish eaters. So they will probably, there have probably been cases

where they have killed humans. 100% there have been. Yeah. But of course. Yeah. But they're not a saltwater crocodile or a Nile crocodile. Now, a saltwater crocodile, if you get in the water with a Nile crocodile or a saltwater crocodile,

I don't know the difference. You're dying. You're dying. Yes. There's going to be people that say no and bullshit and all of that that listen to this that have done it. That's there. It's a ticking time bomb.

What do you mean they've done it? There's a couple guys that will go to the- You'll scuba dive with them. Yes. You're not gonna swim on the surface with them. Regardless, it's only a matter of time. Even when you're scuba diving with them. I won't say his name

because the story hasn't publicly been announced yet, but I have a friend who recently went to the Okavango Delta in Southern Africa, Botswana, in the dead of winter. So reptiles are cold blooded, right? So they need the sun to be warm and active, blah, blah Botswana, in the dead of winter. So reptiles are cold-blooded, right? So they need the sun to be warm and active, blah, blah. So he went in the dead of winter, went with the same guys that had been diving

under the weed mats for the last like three, four, maybe five years and filming the crocodiles. He went and did it, got in the water, got under the weed mat, lost both his legs, barely survived. I'm talking about three weeks ago. Thing just said, I'm gonna take your legs. Bit his legs and rolled. But that's what they do.

That's what they do. I know, bit his legs and rolled. Yep. In underwater. Underwater. Took them both off. Literally clean off. Now he has robotic arms. Hundreds of fractures per leg because of the roll.

That's how hard they bite, by the way. Yeah. It's not just the bite, it's the roll, as you pointed out. Just tearing everything. So now you're like, oh! And then they figure out to get you in the water. Oh, I gotta leave him alone. Just, there's something, like, I'm an idiot, right? This is what I do.

I spend my life working with dangerous animals. There is a line, and some people, and I'm not referring to this gentleman, but some people, period, refuse to accept that there's a line that you can't cross. There is, there just is. I need to know right now where Nile and saltwater crocodiles live. I'm going to go through the list.

Sure. And because I need to avoid it always. Now Indonesia. That's saltwater. Okay. Yep. Burma. Saltwater.

Okay. All of Indonesia and Australia and Australasia is saltwater crocodiles. All of Africa is Nile crocodiles. Papwater. Okay. All of Indonesia and Australia and Australasia is saltwater crocodiles. All of Africa is now crocodiles. Papua New Guinea. Saltwater crocodiles. Yes. Yeah, so any of these places.

You know, I'm going through it. I know he went through all of them. Yeah, but he wants to make double sharks. Anywhere near New Zealand. No, no crocs down there. No crocs down there. Just white sharks down there. Just white sharks down there.

A lot of white sharks down there. But overall, you're saying that, and all of of Africa of course, of course all of Africa, as high up as Egypt probably, right? Yep, from the Nile to southern Africa. That's right, so anywhere, anywhere there. And since you were a kid you were just loved animals and that's how this all started? Well I grew up in southern Africa, I grew up in Zimbabwe. You did?

Yeah. You said Kant and I thought, there's another language? Yeah, that's the little bit of it. Are you Afrikaans? I'm not, I'm English descent. Okay. But so I grew up in Zimbabwe, the country north of South Africa. Beautiful.

Beautiful country. And my family ran safari businesses. Yeah. Ruined by Mugabe. Yeah, you grew up around. Yeah, good old Mugabe. Yep. Who ruined that country.

And kicked us out. Yes. So that's how I ended up here. Yes. Yeah, during the land reform. Yeah, the land reform. Under the Mugabe regime. Or the land, or the land steal and the. Land grab. A lot of people killed. Yep. Including our neighbors

and yeah, it was a rough time. Awful stories. Mugabe, he was in the Rhodesian wars and all. Yeah. Okay, you told me there was a story about you saving a kid from a saltwater crocodile. Oh man, I could probably text somebody and get some footage to show you guys. It's never been shown before if you wanted. That'd be great. I would like that. You want that? Yeah.

All right. Well, I'll try not to sit here texting while we're on air. It's okay. Yeah. We were working in Myanmar. Have you heard of the Ramri Massacre? Yes, I have. Where's that at?

It was when the Japanese got decimated. In Miami. No. In Miami. Myanmar is Burma. So Burma is between India and Sri Lanka, I believe. Correct. Or Bangladesh.

No, sorry, Sri Lanka is further south. It's Southeast Asia. Yes. Borders, Thailand, that area. And do you ever bring your family on all these adventures? I do, but not on one like this. I take them when there's a hotel or- Did you go to the area where the Ranyan massacre took place?

So we went to Ramrie Island, where the massacre took place. And there, just to surmise it very quickly for you, a thousand Japanese soldiers fled from the allies when they came in, and overnight a thousand people were eaten by crocodiles. You hear that? Now it's a whole confluence of events, right? Cause the British had been there, sorry, the Japanese had been there.

They'd hunted out all of the game. The crocodiles had like surrounded the area. They'd gone dormant. They were in a state called Torpo, which is where crocodiles just sit waiting to eat, but they're not getting fed. So they're starving. Then all of a sudden a thousand people run into the swamp

and there were hundreds of crocodiles. What year is this? World War II. It was 1945. It was the end, toward the end of the war. It was right at the end. If the Japanese were running on that island, it was 1945, 1944, late 1944. I'm trying to get you guys the footage. I've never shown it before.

They fled, they jump in the water and the crocs go. So they're in the, they don't know. So they're like, we've killed all the whatevers. Now let's get into the swamps and hide there. Let's get our tropics on. And it's nighttime and you just start hearing screams. Screaming. As they're grabbing.

It must have been so many crocs though to take out a thousand, right? Tons. Hey, it's infested. Really? It was. And by the way, how big do they get? How much do they weigh? 20-ish feet. I assume they're not small. And by the way, and how big do they get? How much do they weigh? 20-ish feet.

Yeah, I assume they're not small. And they weigh like a ton. 1800 pounds. Yeah, you know what? A ton, Brian. Yeah. But the. I just can't get enough.

And so we went there to tell the story on the Ramrie massacre and long story made short, uh, we get there and they're like, there's not a ton of crocs left, but be careful. You know, there are some. Why there's not a ton of crocs left, but be careful. You know, there are some crocs. Why are there not a ton of crocs? They've shot a lot of them out. They've hunted a lot of them out.

Big fishing area, you know, westerners haven't been there and basically since the war, it's just very remote, very tribal. And they don't wanna deal with it. They don't wanna deal with it. And I get it. Like these are people trying to survive. Anyway, long story short, on the fourth or fifth day,

we're sitting in camp, it's 110 degrees, like mosquito-ridden, terrible conditions, whatever, and we're sitting in camp and our fixer, this Mayan-Marian guy comes running in, he goes, there's attack, there's attack, there's attack, and we're like, what's going on? He's like, the village, down the bank, there's a problem. So we jump in our speedboat,

we have the only speedboat in the area, these people are all just in canoes and living in wooden huts and things. Old school. And we jump in our speedboat. We have the only speedboat in the area. These people are all just in canoes and you know living in wooden huts and things. Old school. And we jump in our speedboat and we raced on the bank and we get there and as we get there you just hear wailing, screaming, crying and we jump off the boat and I run up. So I'm EMT trained. I'm medically trained but not you know, not a doctor just an EMT and we run up the bank and there's another medic with us as well on our production. not a doctor, just an EMT. And we run up the bank and there's another medic with us

as well on our production. Run up the bank and this mother is wailing, crying and in her language she's saying, my son's dead, my son is dead, my son is dead. And we come in and he's not dead, he's just barely alive. But the croc has come up out of the water, grabbed him by the leg and pulled him back into the water and death rolled.

So he's fractured his leg in like two or three places, then let him go. He escaped somehow punching it, grabbed him by the arm and death rolled again and fractured his arm in 200 plus places. And they bite so hard and they twist. Yeah. It's just like jaws of life and then spin move, you know? And this kid's lying there and he's, you can just faintly hear him going, uh, you know, he's like basically unconscious. How old is he? 15. And anyway, I race in there with the other medic and you can see here, his femoral artery,

you can see the artery. It's lacerated right by the artery. So if that's lacerated, you're done. You bleed out immediately. Yeah, but how do you get out of the jaws of the alley? He just let him go. His friends grabbed him and they pulled him back out. And they'll let go sometimes because they get scared.

Yeah, so they're never willing to risk massive injury to themselves. So I don't know the situation. His friends may be hit with a stick or get hit in the head. If you get hit by a croc, your friend should be hitting it on the head. Anything you can do, go for the eyes. The problem is they turn and they take you so quickly.

Right, and you're rolling and they go and stash you underwater, right? For your body to rot. Yeah. But anyway, we get there, this you're rolling, and they go and stash you underwater, right? For your body to- To rot, yeah. But anyway, we get there, this kid's dying, his mother's wailing, and I jump on the ground, and I'm like, you and you, talking to our camera crew,

Mitch, JQ, go and get a hammock, get that, tear that hammock down, build a stretcher, you grab me bandage, blah, blah, blah, and we're coordinating this whole thing. Anyway, we managed to close his thigh without lacerating the femoral artery, bandage that up, bandage his arm all over and Get him on our speedboat and he actually lived they had to remove the arm and he couldn't really walk ever again

But he actually survived the ordeal, but it was only because we were there, but he's missing an arm We can't walk yeah fucking but he lived yeah better than nothing you know can't walk cuz the spider-forked injury I don't know if he can't walk his leg was definitely really messed up It's probably tough on a wheelchair in those conditions. Yeah, I don't know that he can't walk because of spinal cord injury. I don't know if he can't walk. His leg was definitely really messed up. It's probably tough on a wheelchair in those conditions. Yeah. I don't know that he can't walk. I shouldn't say that. I know for sure because we got a report later.

We paid for all the medical bills, everything, because of the situation. Yeah, it's terrible. And I know he lost the arm and they said his leg was badly damaged. At least he's OK. But he's alive. And he went home to his mom.

That's huge. Yeah. That's huge. You saved his life. And the thing is, and I don't wanna take credit for this, it's situational, had we not been there, even if he had somehow made it through the attack, it would have festered and died.

It was literally lying on a mud floor when we got there, in a swamp, like there were no conditions in which he was bouncing back. That's how they live, that's how they live in a swamp. God dang. You know, we're so ridiculously lucky. God, that is so insane, man. I just, you know, are you a-

Thank God you were there. Yeah. It was just so fortuitous. Will Sawwater Crocs actually bump a boat? I've heard that they- They will. They will, right? If it's, same with an Owl Croc.

Zimbabwe, I know a guy who's a big game hunter, and he kills problem crocs. I know a lot of them. He works at Griffin and how now he makes guns. I don't know, his brother's a big game hunter that? I know a lot of them. He works at Griffin and Howe now, he makes guns. Interesting. I don't know, his brother's a big game hunter, you'd probably know his brother. He runs, but he said that they'll be in these Boston whalers and they'll tell tourists, don't stand up, because they'll bump the boat and you'll fall off.

Yeah. Is that true? I've never seen that. What I have seen and I know happens is if a canoe is smaller than a crocodile, they'll come and give it a bump to see if the canoe is. But in Indonesia, those canoes are, they're like the waters right here. Yeah, they're like this high out of the water.

They're literally this high out of the water. But you have to understand, that's what these people do to survive. They don't have a choice. But can we have a higher boat? Well, no, that's all they have. Bring up those boats, fishing boat, Indonesian. Like literally, they're this, dude,

they're this much higher off the ground. Yeah. And they get snatched from those boats sometimes, don't they? It happens, like the story I told about Myanmar, it happens all the time. And that goes, if we hadn't been there, that's 100% undocumented crocodile attack. There's no press, there's no news,

there's no body to report it to. Just that village knows. The village is back to life the next day. You know what I mean? Like these things go completely unreported. I'd rather die by Tiger because they bite you and they sever your, you just die. None of them are good. None of them are good. When like the, when the documentary that get tons of traction with like the casuals, I'm

sure you roll your eyes like Chimp Crazy. Yeah. Oh, I like them. I watched them. I know Eric Good, the producer who made those shows. They're great. He's great. Chimp crazy. Do you look at it like with those people with the ladies like, no, he loves me. Like I'll be fine.

Dude. I've and I know it's messed up. I never laughed harder when she's, when she finally, when I'm like, Oh, I said, if he's your best friend, go, why don't you go in? I can, Brian's my best friend, I don't have to lock him in the cage. So I'm like, if you're so in love, go in the cage. Finally she goes in, he rips her ear off and messes up her hand. I was laughing so hard.

But when you see that stuff, like, is it good for what you do or is it kind of a black eye? It's bad for what, I mean, look, I don't do pet trade no black eye? It's bad for what I mean look I don't do pet trade stuff right. It's a whole different thing. I work in wildlife conservation It's very different from like check out my pet chimp. Yes But but remember they're hiding behind Conserving making sure these tigers are safe. Yeah, these chimpanzees are safe when you find out That's just all smoke and mirrors The problem is the word conservation gets slapped

onto every building now or every logo or every whatever. And you're like, oh, it's conservation. This is good for them. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not, you know, I mean, I- It's really habitat conservation, isn't it? For when it comes to conservation. It all just depends.

I mean, saving habitat is great. By the way, I'm very pro zoo. Zoos are great, but they have to be good zoos. They have to be accredited. They have to be doing programs to breed wild animals that need to be reintroduced back into the wild. You know, they have to have very high standards and great husbandry. Like I'm pro all those things. That's different from a roadside Tiger King,

right? That's not a zoo. That's just a shithole. Yeah, that's a shithole. Just trying to make money. They live in tiny cages. Right. And the problem is just like the word conservation, zoo gets slapped on all these things. Yep. It's a loose term. And there's a huge difference between the San Diego Zoo and the Tiger King Zoo.

Correct. You know what I mean? Yes. The problem is that human beings naturally just blanket statement everything or lump everything into one category. Zoos are good, zoos are bad. It's not like that. It's a great thing.

You know they're trying to reintroduce the grizzly in California. They're putting grizzlies right. The California grizzly bears on our flag. A little scary. Yeah, I know. Yeah. That's, that's interesting. How do you feel about that? It's only good if it can be done in a sustainable way for the bears.

You know what I mean? So think about it. Like California is not what California was when California grizzlies went extinct, right? We had tons of elk, we had tons of wolves, we had tons of antelope, we had tons of deer, we had everything. So tons of salmon, most importantly. Tons of salmon. We don't have any fucking salmon anymore. You know what I mean? And people are going to be furious when they hear this, but I don't care.

Our salmon stock's dog shit. It's probably at 2 or 3 percent of what the state salmon should historically be. Because we've damned all of those big waterways in Northern California that the salmon used to run up and down, okay? So what happens if you put a grizzly bear back into the- Just eat something. He's got to eat something. There's no salmon.

Just like the leopard love I told you about, there's no salmon, there's no elk, there's no bison, whatever, the list goes on. What am I going to eat? Well, there's a kid, he looks pretty good. Or Brian. Right? So, and I'm not saying I,

I shouldn't comment on that cause I don't know the whole details. No, I like where you had that on this. Of the introduction, but logic needs to prevail. This was the issue with wolves. They decimate livestock. So if you're a rancher, you have a very different perspective on what wolves do.

And a lot of times what's interesting that people don't realize you go to South Africa, for example, and boar means farmer, right? Correct. So trying to farm in South Africa with elephants who do whatever they want. Destroy the property, right? With all kinds of cats that kill every one of your cows, lamb, sheep, chickens, snakes that eat all your chicken eggs,

snakes that eat all your fowl. If you don't kill everything within a 20 mile radius, you're not gonna be able to grow food. It's hard. Within reason, yeah. And I mean, part of it again has to be like, all right, I'm gonna go cattle ranch in an area that used to be a wild area,

I'm going to lose some cattle to lion. You know what I mean? You have to decide that if that's what you're doing, that's what you're doing. You know what I mean? So I think it has to be a balance. Like, cause if we said everywhere we go that I want to farm a ranch, I'm going to kill everything that lives,

we're going to have nothing left. Cause I want a ranch just as badly as you do out in the middle of nowhere. You got to keep them away. That's where dogs come in and all that stuff. Do you hunt at all? Not really. I spearfish a lot.

And I've done that a long, long time. I used to be very competitive in spearfishing. So that's underwater hunting, but I don't do much terrestrial hunting. What do you spearfish? Everything. I shot a bunch of tuna this year here in California, white sea bass.

By the way, you're- You go to my Instagram and see some. That's a good way to get sharks to kind of- I don't think there's any on you. You can get sharks' attention with that. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Every shark week I do,

I jump in the water and shoot fish at the beginning and shake up the fish and the sharks come in. And I'm like, there's sharks everywhere. Yeah, I just shot a bunch of fish. That's amazing. I think if you scroll down, I think you'll see some of the spearfishing stuff. Look at that.

Do the snapping turtle. No, keep going, there's better stuff. There's that one bear that kills a lot of people in India, I think, is that- Sloth bears? Yeah. I hear that- That's a nice sea bass that I shot.

Damn, that's huge. Nice. Oh, wow. Damn, that's big. Yeah. Wow. They're nice. Where is that?

I appreciate the like over there. Is that off of Catalina? Yeah, that's on my boat in Santa Cruz Island. Wow, lot of great whites out there. And that's a big ass fish, dude. A nice fish, feeds my family and I for a couple months. Amazing. All sustainable.

What did we kill flounders, Jen? What fish were we killing? Halibut. You guys fishing? We were fishing in Alaska. Nice. Getting that big old halibut. I'm sorry, sir.

What is that right there? Is that me with a gator? It's a anteater. Oh, the anteater? That's a gator. No, that's a gator. That's a big old anteater. That's what I like.

That thing's sick. Isn't he adorable? You guys tongue so long and sticky. Put in the anteater, blah blah blah blah blah. And they'll fight jaguars, those things. What? Yeah. What do you mean they'll fight jaguars? That looks soft as hell, but that anteater and cuddly,

they have big gnarly claws and they'll fight jaguars. They'll fight jaguars. Yeah, rip them to shreds. Really? Yeah. And they're agile, if they can fight a jaguar, they can fuck you up then. They're faster than you think and their claws are razor sharp and they're big their agile if they can fight a jaguar they can fuck you up there faster than you think and their claws are

Razor-sharp and they're big. Yeah, really? Yeah, and they've evolved those to deal with jaguars. Oh, that's cool Yeah, so they'll catch my fish there. I mean jaguars are killing too, though Yeah, they will but Jaguars will hunt them and if they get a good neck grip or whatever But they've been known to fight a jaguar off. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, chin. Are you jealous right now of these big old fish? He's catching guys. Let's take a break right now. You want to know what I'm wearing head to toe? How do I look? Crisp? You look nice, dude. Tight?

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Oh nice. Yeah, but spear fishing, I'm too scared of going in the water. Yeah, it takes a lot of time and everything else too. But how do these taste? The knife fish, we didn't eat them to be honest. They're a terribly invasive fish in Florida and they were in a pretty disgusting canal where they're shooting them. And we thought about it, but I was like,

ah, I don't think we should eat anything out of this canal. That lion's playing with that dog. Explain that. Yeah, that's a hand raised lion. Yeah, grew up with that dog. They're pack animals. Yeah, and they probably grew up together and so they're buddies.

Just like your house cat and house dog. Lions are incredibly social animals. Yes, exactly right. And they have a big language, don't they? They're the smartest of cats, I think, right? I'm not sure. That's a good question. I mean, they're definitely the most social.

You know, leopards are solitary, tigers are solitary, jaguars are solitary, leopards are not, or lions are not. You could have a pet leopard though, and they won't attack you for the most part. I'd say no. Really? I'd say that's not accurate. No, that's a stupid statement. It's just, it's like having, it's like chimp crazy.

Yeah. Yes, you can have a pet leopard that probably won't kill you until it does. But that probably won't, key word. Until it does. Until it does. Just like, just like chimp crazy, right? How about she was feeding those things McDonald's, Coca-Cola.

I'm like, this is insane to you. It's so brutal. It's so terrible. And they, you know. I'm like, I thought you loved them. And here's the crazy thing, I'm like, this is insane. It's so terrible. I thought you loved them. And here's the crazy thing I'll tell you guys. That chimp did love her, by the way. It did, but it has the emotional intelligence of, you guys have kids?

Yeah. It has the emotional intelligence of your three-year-old. My two and a half year old threw a tantrum today. Right. If he had been a chimp, I'd be dead right now. He would have ripped your arms out of their socks. 100%. And then after his tantrum's over,

he's like, I love you, dad. Yup. Right? That's the emotional capacity of a chimpanzee. It's not that your two-year-old doesn't love you. He does. They go from zero to 100 real quick. He does, but he doesn't have the emotional bandwidth

to stop himself from throwing that tantrum. And when a 300 pound chimp throws a tantrum, 200 pound chimp throws a tantrum, you're done. You're done. You're done. Yeah. You're not doing shit. Yeah, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. They do, but it's just, it's not an animal

that's meant to live with a human. And is your wife and kids in the whole animal stuff or are they like? My wife's a zoologist and my five-year-old. Attracts, attracts. My five-year-old probably knows more than I do. Is that a capybara? Yeah, at the Capybara Cafe in Tokyo.

What? You guys, if you ever go to Tokyo, you must do this. What? You have coffee with him? It's basically a giant road. It's a big water hamster. Yeah. It's a water hamster and that is jaguar food.

Oh yeah, straight up. They were put on the earth to feed jaguars. Straight up. God, dude. And they get huge. That was friendly though, you could pet it? Super friendly. There were two or three of them at this cafe and you order a delightful latte and it comes

over and sits on your lap and sniffles at you. It's hilarious. What is the wild animal that you could actually make as a pet in terms of... ...arijuana? Not a Komodo dragon. I mean, there's a lot. You know, like, you can... the thing is people make everything pets, right? I was just literally last week, you could see it as a boss photo, in this reel,

I was working with a bear that had been rescued from a pet situation. If you go to the very first photo in this, you'll see how adorable he is. His name's Bowser. Go to that one. Yeah, right there. And this is a bear who got rescued. Look at him. And I'm giving him water and stuff like that. And he's a rescue from the pet industry. Oh, we need more. Can I have more water? He is a pet. This bear is a pet. He's a black bear? Black bear. Yep.

Now, you say he's a pet, but just like the other animals we were talking about, if he throws a tantrum, like you're- He's a 600 pound bear- It's game over. That will kill you in a heartbeat. And you're just chilling with him give him this bottle and shit but you know yeah for whatever reason he freaks out your life's over but i've been working with animals my whole life so see he's not popping his jaw like we talked about he's not cowboy walking he's very relaxed i knew he was thirsty because it was 110 out you know and so i knew he'd be okay but when that bear in russia he's also not

my pet yeah right i don't live with that bear. I'm not doing this every day Yeah, knowing that it's going to at some point that bears gonna get sick of me. He's gonna knock me over whatever How did you if your kids whether would you let your kids give him water? I? Would like my older of the two kids my five-year-old pet him under very Very certain situations if his body language was completely relaxed, it was hot, it was later in the day, not early or late when they're most active, and he was busy eating, drinking, playing with a toy. When in Russia, you can see this bear, and she's a newscaster, and the bear just looks at her and just goes and attacks her.

Oh really? I'd love to see that. Yes. Yeah, bring that up, it's in Russia. And she's like, da, de de, and then goes like this, bear goes boom and just attacks. He grabs her, right? Oh no way. Oh yeah dude. And I think it's in Russia, but yeah. Watch this. Yeah, I think that's it. Now is this from the 60s? I think that might be it. Animal trainer and circus wearer are about to appear on a Polish TV show this isn't gonna end well yeah no no Oh Polish TV show cute and

cuddly now that's a is that a Muslim that's a muzzle yeah predictable no matter what the setting and that's a grizzly yeah he that's a grizzly he grabbed the heels what's up? Oh, man. So there you go. Oh, why is that guy in a... It just saw her. She probably, I mean, I don't know. He didn't see her. He didn't see her.

He's not declawed, I can see his claws, so. Yeah, I mean, she's probably in not critical state, but I bet she got 200 stitches over there. Oh, yeah. Just from the claws. Yeah. And you know, Most of the bear's victims escape with only minor injuries.

Jesus. But I think he just saw her there and he was like, oh, that looks like food. You look like a threat. You're too close. Yeah. She snuck in. He was like, oh my God.

It's just you can't, wild animals are meant to be wild. They're not meant to be pets. You can't predict anything these animals You're also below the bear. That's not safe. You're below the bear. Look at him trying to get your black belt's not working Nope, you see and that's a small Grizzly. Yeah Good thing this guy has a black belt in judo So he's trying to assert dominance with the bear right he's trying to show the show the bear. That's scary too, because the bear could fuck him up.

Yeah, that's not a full grown adult. That's a European brown bear. So a brown bear is the same as a grizzly? Pretty much. I mean, so there's brown bears throughout, right? Like Asia, Japan. Exactly. Well, not Asia, but, well, yes, Japan.

But they move from up through like the Bering land bridge, what used to be the Bering land bridge, up through the Arctic and down into Russia and that area and then up in Alaska. But in Europe, they're much smaller. Is there any evidence that polar bears have mated with, um, grizzly bears? Yeah. They call them growler bears. So they actually exist. Wow. Yeah.

There's videos on? Yeah. Growlers. Growler bear, growler, growler. Yeah. But it's happening more and more. Growlers. Growler, growler, yeah, but it's happening more and more. That's concerning. Bring up a growler for me, Jen. Because of the ice changing in the way that it has historically been, because polar bears are a young species. They've only been around 150,000 or so years.

And so polar bears are still finding their niche in the world and they're moving around a lot and they're coming into contact with the odd brown bear and they're making growler bears. Look at that. Those are humans who call them yellow bones. Yellow bones? Yellow bones. It's like a mixed person. There you go. Yeah. Bro, that's a- It looks like a mix of a polar bear and a- It's exactly what you think it would look like. It totally is. And you're gonna die. Oh yeah. It's got that polar bear in them. I mean, come on. Nine growler bear facts. Yeah, polar bears will hunt you. Yeah, they will. They'll open up a car like a can of sardines and take you out of it.

They're cool. Is that true? That's what they say. They'll open a car up. Yeah, they can. They're so unbelievably strong. I went and filmed with them for the first time earlier this year. Can you show us about, can tell us about your animals? Oh yeah, of course.

Did you want to see this clip first? What is it? This is from that attack that I was mentioning. Oh, you got the video. Yeah, I quickly had it sent over. I don't think it's scored or anything. Or it's like, oh, it's all B-roll, but you can still get a look at it if you guys would like.

This is the one, this is the one. Let's watch this. Oh. So this is the kid. He's blinking, he's come back to now. Why'd you put something in his mouth? Because he had to bite down for the bandaging because it was not gonna, it was gonna hurt a lot.

How'd you get him to come to? Oh, smelling salts. Wow. Yeah. Dude, that poor, oh, there's his mother. Look at that poor mom. And you can kind of see his leg. Oh!

Yeah, I warned you guys. He got wrecked, no, I don't mind, it's just he got wrecked. So here's the hammock stretcher that we made, loading him onto the boat. That's her son. That's it. I mean, we didn't put a lot in this

because it's like a B-roll thing. And out of respect too. Yeah, you're also not some YouTubers like, oh, check those, it's terrible. By the way, you're at night now and you're going through and there's nothing but crocs here. Yeah, correct. That's the end of it.

It's not worth it. And now you're looking for crocs. But now we're out catching crocs. We caught the croc that bit them and moved it. You did? Yeah. How big was it? It's like 19 feet. Big croc. It's weird when they kill them, right? Because it's like, it's a croc doing crocodile things, dude.

They even said that themselves. They're like, they weren't happy. They didn't want the, they didn't necessarily want the croc there, but they all, it was interesting because their relationship with nature is so that they understand that that was just a crocodile being a crocodile. Yeah. And here it's like, if a mountain lion attacks a person, like, well, it has a taste of blood. We got to put them down. It's like, I guess. Not really. Yeah. Not really, right? Yeah. Just a mountain lion being a mountain lion.

Yeah. Did you move that croc, a 19 foot croc? And put them in speed boats and took them up the river and all that. Just tied them up. Little Nike will. I've done that with a 11 foot crocodile. It was a lot. I mean, an alligator.

Were you in Florida or did you do that? 11 footer and it was, it took forever to... But you guys killed him. No, we taped his mouth, put him in the back of a pickup truck and just moved. Beat him up. No, but they are, they're Godzilla. They're so strong.

They're cool. They're so cool. And if you don't tape their legs up, their leverage is crazy, because they charge up and charge up, and then all of a sudden they have this explosive energy. They'll break your leg with their tail tail. Oh yeah, straight up.

Yeah. Yeah, tell us about your animals. Yeah, so you got, Chin over here was like, hey, if you're coming down, bring some critters. But like I said I'm on the road a lot, so I don't have anything Like there's a cool thing about that little turtle. Yeah, we could start there So I do have I did a lot of my undergraduate work on freshwater turtles, so I think they're really interesting And I have a freshwater turtle do you have lives with their walnuts? Oh, yeah? Lives with the arowanus. Oh, yeah?

Yeah. Is a red-eared slider. Yes. Yeah. That's cool. Red-eared slider. So these guys- It goes to the top to breathe and stuff.

Yeah. That's cool. These guys, I think, are probably the most understated animal in North America. So it's a painted turtle, and you can see where it gets the name. Those beautiful colors. But what's cool is, and there's a great clip online, I'm sure you could find it, they go into suspended animation. So they'll hatch sometimes in the spring.

And then as you guys know, sometimes it gets cold again, everything freezes over in the spring. These guys will completely freeze. Like their eyelids freeze shut, their whole body shuts down. And then when it warms up again, they'll fall back out, they'll come out of suspended animation and crawl out of their little dens and burrows and go back to living. That's pretty cool.

Isn't that wild? So their heart will practically burrows and go back to living. That's pretty cool. God. Isn't that wild? So their heart will practically stop? I think it does stop, I'm not really sure. But it goes, yeah, they go into fully suspended animation. That is so interesting. Yeah, Frozen Turtle comes back to life. This is the clip right here.

That is so insane. So see, they'll have these burrows under the sun. Oh wow. Don't they all look just totally dead? Dead, yes. I mean, you could chuck this guy, I won't, but you could essentially chuck this guy in the freezer overnight and pull him back out the next day.

So look at him. I mean, they're dead. Tell me those aren't dead. Let me see. Yeah. And then they just. And then see, it starts to thaw out. They get a little drip of water on them.

Rather tame, doesn't seem anxious. That's an active turtle, man. Yeah. My turtle. Doesn't do much. Yeah, they chill. Snapping turtles will, I saw one bite into a phone book, man. They will.

Well, remember that Snap and Turn Oklahoma we were messing with? Giant alligator snapping turtle. What were you guys doing there? That's cool. We were doing shows together. Oh, cool. There was just some guy in this little town had a snapping turtle. 120 pounds.

Just kids around it, feeding them pencils. Pissed all over me. That can't be smart, dude. He was massive. Such an Oklahoma thing to say. Yeah, just like that black bear that was Oklahoma. Yes, it's not. It's very Oklahoma-y.

I've never heard anybody being bitten by one though. By a snapping turtle? Yeah, but I'm sure they do. Oh yeah, it happens. Really? Yeah, they suck. I haven't been bitten, but I would rather not. With the turtle, the problem I have,

remember turtles eat fish. Yeah. So in the tank you have to have big fish because they're smaller, they tear them up. And I have a cat eat fish. Yeah. So when you're in the tank, you have to have big fish of their smaller they tear them up. And I have a catfish. Oh, yeah. I started noticing he had like tape like chunks taken out of his friends. I'm like, what the hell's going on? Definitely. Am I my fish guy Brian? Can I was like, dude, you have a turtle. He eats fish. Yep. The catfish chills in his area. He's snapping at him. And the catfish is probably red tail or something. So it sits on the bottom. Yeah, he's big. Yeah. So he just comes over and goes, yeah's snapping at him. And the catfish is probably red tail or something. So it sits on the bottom.

Yeah, he's big. Yeah, so he just comes over and goes, yeah, this looks good. Yep. I didn't, I don't know why, but it seems like turtles would have a hard time catching fish, like snapping. Turtles are like nature's D student. They're such like slow doofus-y critters.

And then all of a sudden they're just amazing. Dude, he can move, man. Wow. Move. Because for the catfish, I have to put like fish that sinks to, man. Wow. Move. Cause he has, I have, cause for the catfish, I have to put like fish that sinks to the bottom. Rosie Boa. But if he doesn't move fast, he won't eat.

So he's trained now where I'll put the food for the catfish at the bottom, and you'll see him all the way at the other end go. Yep. Fly. Shoot over. You're like, dang, look at them go, dude. They're cool.

So I brought these guys as well. They're kind of a fun story on these guys. These are rosy boas. Love rosy boas. And one of my favorite things about them is they're one of only two native boa species to North America. So this is the kind that we have here in Southern California.

We do? Palm Springs, that area. We have rosy boas. I didn't know that. Yeah, and then this is the kind that's at the far, and that's the extreme northern end of their range. And this is the far southern end of their range like Cabo San Lucas.

And see the color variation? These are not like morphs or hybrids or anything. That's just how much they change from southern California to southern Baja, Mexico. What happened to his tail? So when I found this one, because I don't really believe in collecting animals from the wild or anything like that, But I was just come to America, I was 15 years old and I wanted to go find snakes down in Palm Springs. So I went down to Palm Desert, I was cruising around at night looking for them and I found

the snake and it was the first ever rosy bow I'd ever seen. I was so excited because I was a kid who loved snakes and I was like, wow, rosy bow, rosy bow. And I looked closely and she had this big bloody mess on her tail. So something either a car had run it over, a raccoon had bitten it off something and she'd escaped and it looked like it was festering and going to get an infection. So I scooped her up, took her all the way home to Santa Barbara and I was holding her just like this and I was cutting the rotting flesh off her, de-briding it and cleaning

it with hydrogen peroxide. Never bit me once and I was like, this is the sweetest animal I've ever met in my entire life. So that was in, I'd say 2002. I've had her ever since then. Yeah, she's geriatric. And how- Does it bite at all? Come on, dude, don't be a baby, please. You know what, snakes are just-

Nah, just hold on to it. You're all good. I was wondering, you weren't reaching for it. I'm not, I'm not the biggest. It's all right, I was making it happen. I've had a lot, yeah. No, I could tell, your comfort is right there it. I'm not the biggest snake. It's all right, I was making it happen. I've had a lot, yeah. No, I could tell, your comfort is right there, yeah. Yeah, they're cool.

I love the way they feel, man. I had a ball python, Burmese pythons. We can fix that. Yeah, I just, yeah. You just gotta interact with them a little bit. Yeah, you're right. Our boy AG is breeding ball pythons now. He's in the business.

Oh, cool. But, you know, so common misconception, I know you obviously know this, but is it slimy or wet or any of those things? No. Not at all, so common misconception, I know you obviously know this, but is it slimy or wet or any of those things? No. Not at all, right? It's a beautiful feeling.

People think snakes are like slimy. I don't know where that misconception comes from. They're dry, they're sleek. They're just a long muscle. How big do they get? These guys? Yeah. They're full grown, both of them. Yeah. Dude, this snake's like 30 years old. She's old.

Yeah. Crazy. Oh, he's trying to go down. They feed them rats and mice? Mice. Yeah, they both eat live mice from the pet store. I can grab her. She's cool hold. Yeah. Crazy. Well, he's trying to go down. They feed them rats, mice. Mice, yeah, they both eat live mice from the pet store. I can grab her. She's cool, man. She's rad. She's cool.

It's all due to him. Yeah, I'm usually cool with the, spiders, snakes, just not my thing. Yeah, I feel that. I don't really, oh, sorry, little buddy. I don't really like spiders myself. You know, everybody has their own thing. I don't like spiders.

It's weird to me when people have pet spiders, I'm like, what do you do with that? Yeah, I don't know. Spiders scare me. I'm very uncomfortable with spiders. And we get some disgusting spiders man. I got a spider bite on the side of my thigh in Papua New Guinea. You did? And yeah, I don't know what it was and it turned like this is a lovely story but like bright yellow and pussy and then I dug it out with my knife because I thought there were spider eggs in there and there weren't, but then the whole thing got infected. I just had these like red lines going all the way.

That's staph, Bob. Yeah, it was early staph infection. Yeah, and it was like going all the way down to my- Did you take antibiotics? I couldn't, I was in the middle of the jungle in Papua New Guinea. So it just got worse and worse until I got out. I only had a week left to the trip.

What kind of spider was it, do you know? No idea. And you dug it out. Yeah, because it was such a boil, you know? And I was like, this disgusting story, but it was such a gnarly looking boil. Do you think it was a spider bite or it might've been something like-

I'm fairly certain it was a spider bite. Hey, expert. Hey, hey, hey. Well, they were in our tent and things. So, you know, we'd seen the spiders around and then I felt- Are there wandering spiders there? I don't know, funnel webs spiders.

Funnel webs for sure. But out by the- Very poisonous, right? Yeah. In Santa Barbara, like we're, you know, I, funnel webs spiders. Funnel webs for sure. But out by the- Very poisonous, right? Yeah. In Santa Barbara, like, you know, I live close to here, we have black widows. Yeah, tons. They're all over my garden. That won't kill you.

A funnel webs spider. And they don't bite you much. The problem is we found one there that we have a one-year-old. Yeah. You know, she's in the crib and we found one up in a room. Yeah, that's no good. So that's where you're like, oh man. You got to just take, I mean, you know, and and like I love animals more than 99.99% of people,

you gotta get rid of the, you can't have a black widow in your house. You also, but funnel web are wandering, same spider? I don't think so, I'm not good with my arachnids. But they're very poisonous. Funnel webs are very venomous, yeah. A bite from them is, 12, one year old, definitely fatal. But not to an adult?

No, but they'll make you very sick. Yeah. Yeah. There are, I mean, you'd have to double check that, but. Do you keep up with, I mean, obviously, it's a completely different thing than what you do, but like Coyote Peterson we've had on here. Yeah, I know Coyote. Yeah, he's a great dude.

Good dude, really good dude. But at him, I was just like, I wonder how far he's gonna take him when he kept getting bit by all this stuff. I'm like, how far are we gonna go with this dude? But it's, you know. Oh, Coyote? The thing about Coyote and that Brave Wilderness and that stuff, I think now he's doing a lot more conservation stuff and all that's awesome. But it's, it's not really

wildlife entertainment or education. It's, it was just entertainment value, right? You tuned, you tuned in to see him going, ah, cause he got bit by something, which is really, really funny. But I, I don't know. Is he still doing that?'m actually not sure. I think he's kind of done it all. Yeah. Do I get bit by a great white? Like, I don't know. I wouldn't recommend it. He was going to like tarantula hawk, all this crazy stuff.

I think eventually his team was like, I think we're good, dude. Let's move on. It's a lot. Yeah, imagine the amount of pain that guy put himself through. Oh, I know. It's pretty nuts. Good for him though. I mean, I'm not doing it, but good for him.

We had him on here before he really got big, big. Remember? Right. Show us more. Yeah, sure. So two more out of my son's bedroom here. Everybody has a backstory, right? Cause I don't like just get pets to get pets.

So everything's a rescue or come from somewhere. So this is Davis, who's an Eastern box turtle and he was found walking around West Hollywood No, it's not where they're supposed to be Really? And so he's named Davis because our friend Allegra Davis found him and she's like what am I supposed to do with this turtle? I was like put up posters Maybe somebody will claim them so she kept him in a bucket in her house for a week Nobody claimed him and I was like sure I guess we I guess we'll, guess we'll keep them. So we've had him for like six years now.

Oh, he's cool. He's cool. I mean, not, you know, they're called box turtles because of this. So they have this hinge. See that? Yeah. It closes like a box. Whereas they're really cool.

And then I've watched alligators just bite right through any turtle. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's no issue at all. Like pistachios for them. Yeah. Indonesian blue tongue skink. Oh, it's no issue at all. They're like pistachios for them. Yeah. Indonesian blue tongue skink. Oh, he's cool.

So he's cool. He's my son's favorite. Another rescue. If you look at his toes, he's missing all of his toes. Why? So the people who had him thought he was an Australian blue tongue skink, which live in a very dry climate.

And he's Indonesian, which live in a really wet climate. Oh, sorry, you probably can't hear a word I'm saying. Sorry. They live in a really wet climate. So they kept him probably can't hear a word I'm saying. Sorry. They live in a really wet climate so they kept him in like a dry arid enclosure and he got terrible skin condition. So he basically has no eyelids anymore so I have to mist his, my wife really, not me, mist his head all the time and he lost all his toes. You'll be fine. He's super chill. He looks chill. He just hangs out. He's cool. You say he's a skink? Blue tongue skink. So he might open his mouth and stick his tongue out. He's cool. He's a, you say he's a skink? Blue tongue skink.

So he might open his mouth and stick his tongue out. And that's- What does he eat? Bugs. Everything, dude. He eats dog food, he eats apples, he eats chicken, he eats everything. Really? Do you have to do him live crickets?

Oh, I do. We don't have to. Like he'll literally eat cans of dog food. Oh, and then at night they're like chirping. He'll eat a can of dog food. Oh yeah, he'll eat anything. He's a real dumpster, that little guy. That's great.

How long do they live? About 30 years. Live a long time. If you get a lizard or a fish, they live for, it's a lifetime. Yeah, it's a big commitment. And never get parrots. People that gets parrots, I don't understand.

You have a parrot? I have two macaws. It's a nightmare, right? You can't have them. Yeah. They're too intelligent. They live a hundred years. It's not responsible. It's not responsible. Yep. They live a hundred years. Yep.

It's not responsible. It's not responsible. They need to be around you all the time. I mean- Or they want to fly. Or they want to fly. And for me, I gave them to somebody who really understood parrots and was with them all day and every day.

And that's perfect. Yeah, but I didn't- But it's also, even with the arowana, it's like I had them when they were babies. Now one's probably four foot, the other's three foot. They're big, man. I want to see your tank. Yeah, one's probably four foot, there's three foot. They're big, man. I want to see your tank. Yeah, it's cool.

Yeah, it sounds cool. And now it's like, it's almost inhumane. I'm like, they need more space. And my fish guy, Brian's like, we could do a pond. I'm like, oh. And then it's got to be heated. It's a whole thing. The whole thing.

Yeah. Ponds are cool. Yeah, but raccoons decimated my pond. Yeah, same with mine. Fuckers. I have a koi pond and the raccoons. They ate all my shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's. I tried to killoi pond in the raccoons. They ate all my shit. Yeah Yeah, it's tried to kill them if I had a gun I was shot

They are blue tongue skinks because he might stick his tongue out here But they have a bright blue tongue and he uses that as biomimicry. So he pretends see it there came out for a half second He uses that to pretend that he's venomous. Oh, cool. So if he's threatened, which you literally couldn't make him threatened because he's such a puppy dog, but if he's threatened, he'll sit there and open his mouth and stick his blue tongue out. So he's venomous.

And blue, yeah, to most animals is a toxic color. So they go, whoa, I can't mess with him, but he's not venomous. It's just he's developed this biomimicry. With possums, you can grab a possum, right? And they'll just play dead? Yeah. In the wild, they're not gonna bite you. Grab by the tail. Oh, they'll bite the shit out of you. Oh, they will.

I thought they immediately dead. Don't listen to Brian. No, no, they'll bite the crap out of you. Oh, they will. Cause they got the sharpest fucking teeth I've ever seen in my life. You ever see them attack people? Sharpest and the most.

The most teeth of any mammal in North America. What? 160 teeth in their mouth. Go ahead and touch one Brian. Oh shit, so they'll bite you. They'll bite the shit out. Do not grab a possum. I thought they had meat in their mouth.

No, hell no. Don't do that. But I've seen people grab and they're like, I'm dead. You grab them by the base of the tail, and this is not good advice for anybody, but you could grab them by the base of the tail and kind of hold them and then if they come up on themselves,

you sort of like use momentum. Yeah. But don't do that. Don't do that. Just leave a possum alone. Don't grab a possum. Don't grab a possum. So they don't do that. Just leave a possum alone. Don't grab a possum. Don't grab a possum. So they'll bite the shit because they have the... Can you pull up a possum bite? Yeah, thank you. Their mouths are insane. I want to say 160 teeth. Hey, you stop being the peanut gallery

because don't act like now you're like don't bargain. Well, I even my dumb ass so as not to grab a possum. They're so aggressive. Look at that thing. Don't they hiss at you? Haven't to grab a possum they're so aggressive don't they hiss at you haven't you been around possum they hiss when you stumble upon them they're vicious they're gnarly dude and then look at that he's holding it like it's super chill that bite would hurt like hell I promise you they get a little too in the pot you got hit in the head actually. That guy did? Yeah. Yeah, it looked like he had some stitches on the forehead. Look at this. We just want their mouths. Yeah. Nah, you don't want to get bitten by a possum. That's not for people. Hell no, look at all those teeth. It's just a giant rat. I mean,

have you ever been bitten by somebody's pet mouse or rat? It hurts like hell. Look at that fucker. Yeah, it's gonna hurt like hell. Yeah, it's gonna bite the shit out of you. It is, it's a giant rat. Yeah, that's all it is. But not flat teeth, sharp as shit canines. Oh yeah. Look at that. Yeah.

Oh Christ. People are insane, man. I mean, this is coming from a guy who all he does is fiddle with animals, but people are nuts. Like, grabbing these things for no reason, it's a very, very bad idea. He has 50 teeth.

I guess you can have him as pets, that's what it looks reason, it's a very, very bad idea. His 50 teeth. I guess you can have them as pets, that's what it looks like, but whatever. Yeah. Stupid animal. Skunks you can have as a pet too. They make great pets. They do? Great pets. Skunks.

Skunks. Great pets. So the problem with a skunk is if you get a pet skunk, you have to have it de-scented, whatever it's called, like get the gland removed. Yeah, but they're cuddly, they're friendly, they play with you, they make great pets. Really? Yeah, and again, not condoning it, but I've cuddly. They're friendly. They play with you. They make great pets really Yeah, and again not condoning it, but I thought yeah I've been to these like animal conventions and stuff where people have them and they're like cuddling on your lap

I'm crawling on your shoulder ladies in this You got a great you got to hit like 30 cats before you graduate you skunk yeah, 30 cats equals one No boyfriends. Yeah, do you own dogs? Sorry? Do you own dogs? Yeah, I have a dog. Do you have any opinion on dogs?

I love dogs. Yeah. Absolutely love dogs. It's the only animal that we truly, truly should have. We have evolved to have dogs for thousands of years. We've read them that way, yeah? Yeah, we've made them. We have designed them to be our companions. And I talked to a trainer about the smartest breed and he's like, it depends

on the dog. He was totally, they're individuals. Yeah. German shepherds are very smart and all that and mountain dogs, they're very trainable. But he said, you can get really, really smart dogs. It just depends on the animal. Totally. Yeah. Yep. Do you have any project coming up that, or do you get a notice like, ah, might be a little too dangerous or maybe the travel, the area it's in or the animals it's in. Do you have any of that stuff coming up? I'm going to hold off. No, I never say no to a project really. If someone's like, Hey, come check out this bear in Ukraine. You're like, I'm going to wait.

Okay. I'll tell you the coolest project I have coming up, but I'm definitely going to get in trouble for telling it. Um, in January, I'm going down to Columbia to catch Pablo Escobar's hippos and castrate them. So there's a problem down there. Castrate them. Yeah. Bro, that's sick. So, yeah, we go, I should have brought the rifle to show you guys. Oh man, I have the

sickest trank rifle you've ever seen. Because they're breeding. So during Escobar's reign of Columbia, he had a private zoo at Hacienda Napoles, which was his house, right? And once he got killed, all the animals got moved to various zoos, except for the hippos. The hippos got the doors opened,

and there were four hippos, and they got let out to head into the Rio Magdalena. This was 35 years ago, maybe more. Now there's 140 hippos. What? And counting. And it's an exponential growth curve because they have no natural predators, all the water hyacinth in the world, blah blah blah blah blah. And so in January- What's water hyacinth? That's- That's something they eat, like a floating weed that they love. And just tons of vegetation in general. And so they're just exploding. Now hippos are incredibly dangerous,

which people don't know. Territorial. Incredibly dangerous, incredibly territorial, not supposed to be in Columbia. No. And they've had a lot of problems with them being in Columbia and overpopulating and they have killed people,

even though they're not making that like very publicly known in Columbia. So in January, because as I said, my expertise in catching stuff and working with animals, I'll be going down there and working with the government on capturing and castrating a bunch of them. Damn, dude. Capturing and castrating.

Narco season four, sign me up, dude. Let's go. You guys wanna come to Colombia? Let's go. Fuck yeah. Colombia. I've been, I think it's Medellin, right? Is that where it is?

Correct, yep. And so you'll have to tranquilize the hippos and then to castrate them, same, you just gotta. But it's Medellin, right? Is that where it is? Yep. And so you have to tranquilize the hippos and then to castrate them, same, you just gotta- But it's way harder than that. Because if you dart a hippo in the river and it falls asleep, it drowns to death. So instead you have to bait them into a Boma, which a Boma is like a big land trap that you build,

that a hippo can't run- Like you do with crocodiles, right? Yeah. But they're like in a cage, like semi in the water so they can breathe. These guys, you have to get all the way onto the land. So it's a whole, I'm giving away my secrets here, but it's a whole process where you condition the hippos

to come to hay bales over a certain amount of time. Then you build this giant funnel trap called a Boma. So they can't get out. And then they go into the funnel trap and you close it. And then they go nuts and start like trying to get out and stuff, and then you dart them and then they fall asleep and then you move in with the vet staff. And how many you gonna have to do?

As many as we can get in our time frame. Yeah, because everyone that's left, they're breeding like crazy. And everyone that we don't castrate is another breeder. What's their gestation period? Could you look that up? I think it's 10 months. And you'll be compensated for this

from the government, right? No, I'm paying the government to help them with it. Damn, brother. 243 days, yeah. Wow. I'm donating, I should clarify that, I'm donating money to the government to help because they're underfunded with this project. That money is coming from the network that's supporting this because I'm making a TV show

on it. Gotcha. Yeah. And I'm sure I shouldn't have said any of that, but I don't care. We can edit all that out if you want. Nah, you're good. You're fine. Now people wanna see it.

Well, good. Yeah, you're fine. You're badass. I've been doing this for years. People know what I do by now. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah.

So that's a really exciting one I'm looking forward to. When you got that call, y'all, I'm in. Yeah, 100%. I love big animal captures, especially when it's for conservation. Exciting. Like catching elephants and relocating them and catching big manny and crocs and stuff like that. So this is a real challenge and it'll be awesome. I've heard elephants are, again, very social. So if you, God forbid, kill the matriarch

or something, it's really bad for the herd. It's very damaging, yeah. Yeah, emotionally. Their EQ is unlike anything we've ever experienced. Really? Yeah, no human being, myself included, could ever understand how emotionally intelligent these animals are.

They're not as intelligent as we are. It's not like they can sit and have a dialogue and build a building, but their emotional intelligence, their emotional level's much greater than ours. They feel sorrow much more than we feel it. They feel happy much more than we feel it. Even cows do. My friend slaughtered a cow and the bull was in the corral next to it and the bull went fucking crazy. Oh, I'm sure.

The bull was going crazy. That's unbelievable. It's terrible and you don't realize it. We don't give them credit for what they're doing. This is what I want to ask for that I've read that I thought was fascinating. I hear that dolphins have a language. They speak even to false killer whales and coordinate hunts. I've read that parrots name their children.

This is all true? I've heard both of those things. I have nothing to back it up, but I've heard both of those things and there's more. Different orcas speak different languages. Some of them kind of cross communicate, some of them can. How about that? Pigs speak their own language. Pigs do too?

Yeah, yeah. Like wild pigs speak their own language. I mean, it's- It really makes you wonder. It makes you wonder as we learn more about these animals, you know, whether or not- Not messed up it is what we do. We might look back on that and go, we more about these animals, you know, whether or not we- How messed up it is, what we're doing. We might look back on that, maybe we were eating these animals. Especially cows. Maybe one day. We find out how smart cows are.

Because you don't eat dolphins. But they're so good. Cows, not dolphins. Cows are so good. I'm like, you eat dolphins? Cows will put on the earth to eat. Maybe. But they're also cuddly as fuck.

They are. When you're on a dairy farm, they know every one of their names. And they have the big eyes and the big eyelashes and they lick you with that rough arm. And dairy farms, the females, there's a hierarchy. So there's mama bear and then they, like the mama bear goes first and everybody follows. There's a whole thing.

Oh, interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, they're not like just, you know, there's a whole hierarchy. There's queen bitch, there's the queen, and then there's the second

and they're just like that. Yeah, that's animals are amazing. I think it's one of the applications that AI is gonna, because I'm like, I wouldn't say I'm anti AI, but I hate all these like fake images that you're seeing. I hate it. But I think it feels like it feels like an impending tsunami. It really does. You know, when I picture AI, I picture a man eating ever-growing octopus. Yeah. I do. Touching everything. It scares me.

Getting bigger and reaching out. And we can't stop it. We're creating our own demise. We can't stop it, yeah. Have you ever seen Terminator 2? Yeah, I'm with you. I'm on a thread with some real AI scientists, you know. Oh, interesting.

Just by accident, with Rogan, in fact. Oh, cool. And man, I tell you, when you see what's coming out and you see that they just actually in many cases Don't know well, you know what scary when Elon goes, let's slow down Yeah, slow down see what we're dealing with here because we don't know I'm like well He wants price one of the smartest guys on earth, right? If he's saying chill out Yeah, we should probably chill the fuck out. Right.

Do you remember Zuckerberg had that whole experiment where the two AIs were communicating, they realized humans were listening, they changed the way they were talking to each other so we can understand it, they had to pull the plug. That was... That was like eight years ago, 10 years ago. Yeah, dude.

Yeah, that's not now, now it's way advanced. It's not good, man. They don't know. And maybe we're the old guys, you know, who are like, these kids, like I hate electric cars, I it's way advanced. It's not good, man. They don't know. And maybe we're the old guys, you know, who are like, oh, these kids, like, I hate electric cars, I hate all the technology, I hate AI. This is something that we're building something that seems to be developing some form of cognition.

Like, we're dealing with something that seems to be taking on, for the first time time a life of its own. I mean, did you see that thing where the two podcasts hosts, AI podcast hosts realized they were AI and had like this intrinsic meltdown? Yes, yes. It's like this fake podcast. You get it, that's the whole story.

It's crazy. When she started asking the AI spiritual questions. Yeah. Well, Rogan had those guys on that then they're highly involved with the government AI? Yeah, so he was saying that the AI to like started to tell you know The people that were around it like don't shut me down. They don't don't turn me off Please don't do this like started having like remorse and like start having feelings right now. What happens when we give that? Intelligence of physical being which is what like these new Tesla robots are right? having like remorse and like sort of having feelings. Right, now what happens when we give that intelligence

of physical being, which is what like these new Tesla robots are, right? Like then what? Please don't shut me down while I'm going to, okay, well now I'm gonna stop you from shutting me down. Right, it's fucking a robot. So then right now, you know, for the most part, good people have AI, well what happens

when the terrorists get AI? Yeah, it's- Well it's not good. The actual larger. Like they can do way more damage. The larger issue though, is there's an AI race. So between China really, and the United States. Your boys said we're winning that race.

We are. For now. But AI is general, generally AI, whatever, there's this exponential race. The idea would be, according to Jeremy Harris and Edward Harris, who are the two brothers, PhDs at MIT had their own AI company. What they found when they were kind of looking at Sam Alton's company and stuff like that is that the safety teams were way behind.

The safety teams in some ways were being kept a little bit in the dark. And when they would go and ask questions, some of the safety people would be like, here's my card, call me when nobody's looking. Because it inhibits things, right? Because if you're putting rigorous protocols on things, it inhibits them. Yeah, and so there's all kinds of issues like that, but you really wonder at times,

like what is really going on? This is where when AI starts to build AI, we are going to make something that's never gonna change. This is why I like animals, you guys. Yeah. This is why I like animals, you guys. This is why I like animals. It's easier. Do you know what's really fucked up? What's that?

It's really a mind blow. If you talk to physicists, if you listen to how they're talking, a lot of them will say that we may already be in an AI simulation. Like animals, yes, evolution, yes, but that may have been an AI program. That's what's my mind. I don't buy any of that bullshit. Elon Musk does. Does he?

He thinks we're in an AI simulation. Only billionaires think we're in an AI. No poor person says this. It's not, it's not. Yeah, because their life's so good, they're like, yeah, this is all like that. They're like, I'm way too lucky to have this. It's not AI, it's mathematicians and physicists.

No, I get it, I get it, I don't like those guys. I don't buy it. I don't buy it I'll tell you what's not a I magic mind. I'll have one of those I know you came here with one pocket. I love my third of the day. How long you been taking this dude? I was an early adapter to this I would say going on two years now. Have you met these guys? Oh, yeah Yeah, I'm really good friends. So I'm really good friends with the creator James. Yeah, James is the man Yeah, yeah, but James created for himself. Right.

And that's why I love him. And he didn't need the money. James made no money. What's funny is James and I met at the pumpkin patch, the one here I'm going on Tuesday, it was probably three Halloweens ago. He was your Brian's friend, right? I'm like, you know, everyone says you're your friend.

I'm like, yup, what's up, dude? And then me and him started talking. He's like, you drink a lot of coffee, right? I'm like, I drink coffee and do Adderall. He's like dude. I'm telling you switch. He was like you got a switch I bet you're gonna wean off of it and he was right. Yeah. Yeah, I feel way better and I'm coming out I'm not coming out with an another version from what I hear. I'm very excited about that because the best Yeah, and I'm doesn't miss. Yeah, I'm that's funny We all know him but I think it's cause he obviously knows

that this product helps us. But yeah, James, great guy. And I'm just a huge, huge believer in the product. Oh yeah. It's awesome. Yeah, James. And I can't wait to tell people. It's pretty funny.

I walked in here, nobody saw this, but I walked in here with one in my pocket and I was like, hey, you guys have, you mind if I add this one? Yeah. So good. Well, we appreciate you brother. We know it's a house that'll even bring down those animals.

No, it's easy, dude. You can always come back anytime, man. You guys come up to Santa Barbara, we'll show you a good time. There's so much good stuff up there, man. We have white sharks in our backyard. You do? Oh yeah.

What do you mean white sharks in your backyard? I live by Pedaro Lane, where all the white sharks hang out, the white shark nursery. God. Go pull up that guy, the Malibu artist, do you mind? This guy's awesome. He lives down the road.

You ever get in a boat and put a camera in the water? I do all those things. You do? All those things. And you can see them. Oh yeah. That'd be so fun to go up there. Santa Barbara might be my favorite place on the planet.

It's the best. My son just had a baseball tournament up there. We were there for two days. I was like, I could live here. You should. It's so nice. We should go up there. We'll have lunch with George Christie,

the Hells Angel guy. Oh yeah. I'll join the Hells Angels. Yep And then we'll keep going and we'll hang with Forrest Garner. It'll be one of those things Yeah, this guy films like basically right by my house all the time and many other spots, but yeah Are they small ones? So they used to be all small ones when we first started showing up at the beach by my house But now six years later, they're up to like 12 footers around. So, we see them every day.

Every day. Every day. I can find them 300 plus days a year, I'd say. And you'll swim with them. I would love that. I've never seen one. I'm obsessed with them. Come up, dude.

It'll take you out on my boat. I'll guarantee, if you come in the summer, guarantee, you can spend two hours. It's 45 minute drive from here. You'll be on the water with them in an hour. And you'll see them from the boat? Yeah. See them from the boat, see them in the water.

Oh, dude, I'm in. You just see them hanging out. Just like, just, you'll be on the water with them. And you're gonna see them from the boat? Yeah, see them from the boat, see them in the water. Oh, dude, I'm in. You just see them hanging out. Just like, yeah, like see the paddle boarding on the right there? Yeah. Somewhere is, you guys know Rob Lowe, the actor? Yeah. He's a good buddy of mine.

I took him out and went paddle boarding with him and like he absolutely, oh, I don't know what this is. So you go, so you see them, you literally see them. Spot them from the boat. And you go paddle boarding with them? Just like that, you can paddle board with them, you can hop in the water. And they wanna paddle board.

No. That's wild. I would love to do that. Look at that, that looks like a large great way. Let's see if I can find this quickly. Right? We gotta do that, dude. I would love that.

Your kid, he has no idea how lucky he is as a five-year-old. He's got a good life. He's got a very good life. You know, it's all perspective, he doesn't know. No, he has no clue. It's so cool. But. Yeah. He's got a very good life. You know, it's all perspective. He doesn't know. No, he has no clue. So cool.

But yeah, this is what we'll do. We'll do exactly this. Yeah. I wouldn't jump on a paddleboard, but that boat you were talking about sounds cool. I'll do it. I'll get on a paddleboard. Look at that thing. It's the size of your paddleboard.

Yeah. We'll go do that. That thing's the size of this. You guys say when? Huge. You guys say when? I'm not joking. Open invite. Summer's better because you get these conditions. You get the greasy glass calm so you can spot them easily.

The water's a lot warmer. It's just a lot nicer. The sharks are more. If you did in like January. No, let's do it in the summer. It's a bad time to go. It just sucks. You're gonna be in hoodies.

Summer's so far away. Too cold. I mean, you guys come now, water's still warm. Yeah. Come in the next couple weeks before it gets cold. I mean, I'm not getting water, but yeah, I hear you. That's so cool. I'm in.

I'm in. Say less. Yeah, love to have you guys. We have his number, right? You have his number, B? Yeah, I'll get it. Let's do it. Of course. Okay, your number on air is Forrest Galante.

Dude, good luck in Columbia, man. Doing the Lord's work. We appreciate you coming on, brother. Thanks for having me, guys. Thank you. That was great. Bring me back some balls. Put them in a jar of Formaldehyde.

I want some hippo balls. There you go. We'll put them right here. Dude, I'm definitely bringing them home. We've got to have one set in your studio, one set in mine. Please. We've got to do that. Please.

I'm dead serious. Come on, Pablo Escobar's hippo balls? Done. Done. I'm down for that. Done. I'll wait. Reckless.

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