The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK Ep. 1044 | Gene Simmons

Episode Date: November 28, 2024

Gene Simmons from the legendary band, KISS, joins the show. The guys talk how he started KISS, taking care of his mother as soon as he started making money at a young age, being completely sober, how the band started doing make-up, his knowledge of multiple languages, Bitcoin, his many enterprises and relationship with Paul Stanley and much more. Magic Mind - https://magicmind.com/thekidbf For 50% off Black Friday & holidays offer until the 6th of Dec. True Classic - Fall is here. It’s time to step up your game. Right now, you can unlock big savings when you bundle packs. Just go to my exclusive link https://trueclassic.com/FIGHTER #sponsored JOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order

Yes we did, cause we back at it again, it's the fighter and the kid This is really the fighter and the kid Come on baby Well I'd just like to start by saying it's a pleasure to see me And for us too Actually I've heard some stuff about you guys Really? Yeah some of it involving farm animals

Yes well we can explain we were drunk and we needed the money Only cute goats though I've never been drunk actually Have you? No nothing farm animals? Yes, well, we can explain. We were drunk and we needed the money. We were all so young. Only cute goats though. I've never been drunk actually. Have you? No, nothing. Oh, that's right. Never been drunk, never been high, never spoke cigarettes.

Well, you were too busy running an empire, but your entire band, right, would the rest of the band partake in those? The two original guys, Ace and Peter, indulged. Yeah. It's kind of a big word like gymnasium, but take it to the extreme. Paul Stanley was, he works out. He pretends to, I mean, I love the guy like my brother, but he does the whole, only in front of people.

He'll gargle and put his nose in. He knows, I'm gonna pile into him for that, the fuck you doing, if you wanna drink it, I'm going to pile into him for that. The fuck you're doing. If you want to drink it, drink it, stop it with the, yeah. Oh, I know he does this guy, the same thing, but that's just, but he knows his stuff. He knows about carpets and anything Persian drugs and stuff. But Gene, you, you, what made you just not get into the drugs and alcohol when it's kind of a big part of the really, uh, it really goes back.

How serious do you want to get? Or do you want to? No, let them answer as serious as you want to get. I asked first, didn't I? You asked first. Well, I'm more that that question kind of piggybacks to the idea that you've been relevant for 50 years and it's a very rare thing.

Terry, I'm in the middle of the podcast, we're good. Oh, she's outside. Have her come in. My media mate. Sinaz is going to get her. We got you covered, brother. We got you covered. Gene just turned out a $5 million deal.

No, click. Yeah, he just said that. He did this out, Dina. $5 million. Call me when you're serious. $5 million, call me tomorrow dollar deal. Nope. Click. He did this out, Dina. Five million dollars. Call me when you're serious. Five million dollars. Call me tomorrow. Busy.

Click. Well, you're very con. How old were you when you started? How old were you when you started Kiss? I'm interested in how you got the idea. Like. Nobody can lay claim to it. There is, scientists often use words that the rest of us

can't understand. Singularity, I mean when did you ever use that word in a sentence? But it sort of means every once in a while, and that could be millennia or right away, things just happen. That you can't often duplicate. Lightning in a bottle.

Lightning in a bottle. Yeah, although lightning does strike twice in the light. People have been hit more than once by lightning. It's true. But there's been a number of bands, right? Like a number of hip bands. Yeah. So what you can't point to is by luck,

being born at the right place, by luck, having the right thing at the right time, at the right place, and then those things are more than likely to happen than not. So if you take the Beatles, the most complete band of all time, with the kind of talent you can't figure out. Mm-hmm. There she is.

And if you stick them in the 1800s, there's probably not a chance in hell that that would happen because, you know, the music was different and people's ears weren't tuned to that. So you have to have the right thing at the right place in the right time. So the long winded answer to your question is I happened to meet a guy named Paul Stanley. And he and I hardly have ever agreed on anything, but it is that sort of one plus one equals three kind of thing. And you can point to other bands.

We couldn't shine the shoes of Lennon McCartney or Jagger Richards, any of those guys. But there are similarities in the, you might have expertise or know stuff, I don't. And likewise, I may know stuff that you don't. I mean, look at you two. If you didn't pitch for the same team, I think you, you know. You think that we, well, because you can feel the connection between us and the night is still young. And we should start a band.

The night is still young. I think we should start a band. You know what? And Gene could be the, you could be our maestro. I don't want to go there. I'm not qualified. I'm not qualified. I mean, I can't sing, but I can dance.

Especially if I'm in a leotard. But Gene, to that point, how, I can't sing, but I can dance. Especially if I'm in a leotard. But Gene, to that point, how, you know, is right timing, right place. Do you think you could do it? Right thing, right place, right time. And do you think you could recreate? Could a band, if there's a young kid listening now and he wants to start a band. Times change.

That's what I'm saying. Do you think you could recreate that now in the climate culture we're in now? No, no. Well, now is the time of the pop princess. Females rule the planet. Ariana and all the rest of it. In pop, yeah, but country is more male dominated. Likewise, the country girls are gorgeous. I mean, if they weren't singing, they'd be models.

There is a thing, and it's reflective of culture, really is. And technology though, because Kiss was able to cultivate a mystery. Which likewise is a reflection of culture, people's, you know, the attention deficit disorder, everything is instantaneous. You don't have time to sit down and... There's no albums. ...take and... There are no taken. There are no albums. There's no albums. Right away.

Right away. So at any rate, I'm not criticizing it. It is what it is. It's the nature of the beat. It's kind of a bummer though, because it's also not only are there not albums, there's also no bands. There's really no bands. It's a bummer for you, but if you're 14 and you live on TikTok, it's not a bummer.

That's what you digest. That's true. That's the world you live on TikTok. It's not a bummer. That's what you digest. That's the world you live in. But you guys did something for me growing up when I was 14, a kiss was all I listened to. And so here are a couple of things. Ace Philly could play the guitar so well and fast that the guitar would smoke, no one else.

And I believe that. Also, no one had ever seen kiss with their makeup off. Like I was like, dude, that was the biggest thing. Like nobody's ever seen them with their makeup off like I was like dude That was the biggest thing like nobody's ever seen them with their makeup off these things that you could get away with before Tik Tok came all that case that look at that our our boy Jim Norton was on here He collects one thing's what I'm I was the merch you do not to interrupt you be a good side track But also our boy Jim Norton who's a famous comic he collects all your posters like he he was literally on his own He's like, oh man, I bought this one from Japan. He's like there's a famous comic, he collects all your posters. Like he was literally on the show and he's like, oh man, I bought this one from Japan. And he's like, there's a small tear in it.

I'm like, what the heck? And he's 50 years old. Well, you can certainly make a small fortune collecting that stuff. And if you're curious, you can go to the Rio Hotel in Las Vegas and there's the Kiss Museum there, which is really my collection over the past half a century. Everything from, get ready for the joke. I've said it before, here it comes. Everything from kiss condoms,

there were kiss and are kiss condoms to kiss caskets. We'll get you coming and we'll get you going. KS Caskets. I like it too. Thank you for that. Oh, there it is. Look at that. Look at that.

And it is all the kind of the merch, the art, the face paint when you guys were starting. Is that all your idea, Gene? No. Nobody within the band, that's all my stuff. Nobody within the band can lay claim to anything. We were just sort of there and it happened. Literally the first day we were in a rat infested loft,

10 East 23rd Street, 10 blocks from Madison Square Garden. It only took us a year and a half to go there and headline and do all that stuff. Think about that dude. One day we just decided to go down to what was called Woolworth's and buy clown makeup and some other stuff. I love the plastic ice cubes that had flies in it so that you could drop that in a girl's drink and she'd squeal and we all love that. Which is why we stick frogs up their dresses. Who doesn't?

Yeah. Who doesn't? I always keep a frog with me. Because you want to hear that sound. Ah! You want to hear that. Yeah. Yeah. Or the funny ones, females of the species,

make this kind of peculiar sound which resembles a turkey about to get its head cut off. Oh! Oh! You know, that thing. I'm getting turned on. That's amazing. That's a sexy sound. So someone was like, let's go down to Woolworth and get makeup.

Yeah, we got, we had no idea. There was no template. There was no list of here's what you do to get to the next place in life. And that's what singularity kind of means. It's like kids playing in a mud, I don't know, puddle or whatever. Or, and I've heard this is true, in fact, I know somebody who did it, when you're really little and you get your first hot bath and you really get

comfortable, you poop in the bath. Yeah, babies do it all the time. And then some kids take the poop and they start creating stuff on the wall. That's supposed to be, by the way, they start creating stuff on the wall. That's supposed to be, by the way, an artistic circle, the purest form of self-expression. It's called scat art. Big in Germany probably.

These are semantics, but I'm not anti-semantic. I don't know about you. I'm not anti-semantic. Do you get that? And so... Come on, baby. Come on. You should listen to me.

I'm important. Sorry, sorry. I'm listening. We're're excited yes go I got a chubby too so they were so we bought these mirrors I don't know why they were about four feet high and thinner than longer and two of them and we stuck him against the walls of the loft and for no reason in particular we put the guitars down and started putting makeup on our faces you know the way kids do and then kind of got off on each other we looked around the room and was like wow that what's that how old you? And within two or three hours Ace did that kind of jaggedy makeup thing. Peter, because he loved, he said he was a sci-fi kind of guy,

believed in aliens and all that, so he thought of them. And Peter, I like cats. And so, yeah, that's pretty accurate. And I was always fascinated with, you know, sci-fi monster movies and comic books and all that. So the makeup was a reflection of that, but it was not planned. And Paul actually had no idea what he was doing because all he ever wanted to be was a rock star. And so, you know, the big poofy hair and the,

oh, you know, the sort of androgynous kind of a thing based on the Anglophiles. We were big Anglophiles, Jagger and Robert Plant and all those guys, the greats. Yeah. And the initial makeup he had on his face was a round circle, like in Paul's words, Pete the dog. The dog. Little rascals.

Yes, sir. Which we grew up with, which 20 year olds had no idea what we're talking about. Right. And none of us liked it. We said, nobody's heard of the young rascals. There was barely 1930 and these were reruns of little kids running around in poor neighborhoods.

And other than us, the new generation never saw it. So he switched it to stars, because I want to be a rock star. And he originally drew two stars on his face, but he could never get it right No, you always skewed wrong. So he just drew one and that's where that thing came from Wow, and he wore red lipstick for God knows why Was no one like came as the little gay Pardon would there was anyone at the time like a little gay put on red lipstick everybody

It didn't matter came in, well, lots of people came up as Paul Gay, not in the least. Oh, I thought he was. Never. Okay, I always thought he was. No. Yeah. But it doesn't matter. He was a great frontman.

The best. Well, you were pretty, you were also the frontman. I mean, I don't know. Well, whatever, however it happens, there are bands like The Who, where there's one guy who's doing these jumps and the other guy's twirling a microphone. That's what you want. You want a four-wheel drive vehicle.

Who is the front man in The Beatles? You're right. Whoever you like. All stars, yeah. But that was- Were you a musician though? Did you start as a musician? I didn't put in the hours I should have, but at about 13 years of age I saw The Beatles

on TV and I was working. I always worked doing something and I remember I never heard that that screech of girls all screaming that loudly from the Ed Sullivan show I just fascinated by it like you know like just crazy and the camera would pan to the audience they were like somebody was stepping on their foot ah you know this kind of thing but what what's that about and the their foot, ah, you know, this kind of thing. I go, what, what's that about? And the guys on stage looked feminine, you know, they looked small, smaller than Americans

and cutesy hairstyles. I didn't understand the music initially, it was just the visuals. And then I thought, well, maybe that's not a bad job. And I'm not the only guy, there have been lots of musicians who saw The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show and it changed their life. It's weird because you didn't look at The Beatles,

like if they were out now and you would go, oh, those are handsome guys. Oh, it didn't matter. It was the British invasion. It changed everything. We didn't see them initially as handsome because it was so innovative. The grits were, you know, chiseled and thin.

Yeah. I mean, look at you. Yeah. You're like Gigantor compared to the English. Yeah, yeah, huge, yeah. Of course if you're 20 years old, you have no idea what Gigantor is. Yeah.

Well, they weren't lifting. Robert Plant used to wear the, if he hooked up with the girls, he would wear their shirts. So if you see Plant, bring them up. You see Robert Plant, they weren't lifting. Robert Plant used to wear the, if he hooked up with the girls, he would wear their shirts. So if you see Plant, bring them up, you see Robert Plant, they're such an astonishing man, Led Zeppelin. Oh yeah. He would wear, he'd hook up with a girl and the next night he would take her clothes.

On stage he would wear her shirt. Yep. What a move. And bro, and, and the guys, look at that. Girls would probably hook them up with him just so they'd rock their clothes. They changed the game. Yeah, that's right.

They changed the game. They're still astonishing. Jagger too. Jagger same game. Yeah, that's right. They changed the game. They're still astonishing. Jagger too. Jagger same thing. Yeah, Jagger same thing. Bowie, David Bowie. The English were much more comfortable.

Look at that. Hairy belly, huh? You know, and it's really fascinating when you think about Zeppelin, perhaps the perennial, the kings of riffs. Nobody came up with as many riffs as Jimmy Page. And as you grow up and as we came up in the world, Jimmy, I started to know Jimmy Page,

bring up Jimmy Page and Gene Simmons. And it's a life-changing experience because when one of your heroes walks up to you and says, you know, you could give John Entwistle a run for his money. I thought what? Oh, think about that for a sec. Coolest of the cool. Come on.

Just a remarkable, and Brian May and all those guys. Wow, and Brian May from Queen. Yeah. Dude. What an amazing, I mean life. Look at that. Do you mean Paige? Life actually happens to you while you're busy making your plans.

Yeah. That's the weird thing. I mean, did you ever think you'd be in my presence? No, never, never. I was not on my bingo card for 2024. If you think I didn't call a bunch of people, I literally, I was like, Gene Simmons is doing the podcast. I have to tell you the honest truth. On the way over here, I got so excited. I was going to ask myself for an autograph Yeah, when we got the email that they were like do you want Gene Simmons on I was like is this real Is he thought it was Richard Simmons? That's what we were hoping it was Richard cuz I'm a true huge fan of his aerobics

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try and right now is the best time because they're giving 50% off Black Friday and the holidays through the December 6th. Just click the link in the description box. Good luck, enjoy. Yeah. Isn't it sad that younger people have no idea who Richard said they were? This is the nature of celebrity. But if Netflix makes a doc or they do a series on it,

then the young kids will get hip to it. Well, I think- Just like the Mendez brothers or whatever it is. John Benet-Ramses out. What are the odds? Are they gonna be released or not? So I was listening to this guy in Dak Shepard's podcast and he was a district attorney in Orange County.

He's dealt with all the major cases, all the murder cases. And Dax asked him about it. He goes, the problem with society today is you're gonna see the documentary, you're gonna see the series and go, these poor kids. He goes, you gotta realize though, yes, they've served their time, but what they did is murder what you said.

He said they murdered their family. So the shotgun they were using, he goes, that's not something, it's a six-barrel shotgun. You have to reload it. So he went to the car, reloaded it, and he goes, and he didn't just shoot his mom, he shot her in the face eight times. He's like, so it's tough to let those guys out.

Now, they can say it's abuse and stuff like that, but then Eric Mendez is on record bragging how he lied to the court and got away with it and all this stuff. He's like, so they don't show all this stuff, the reason why they're in prison. Did their father molest both of them or did he not? We don't know. We don't know. But there are people that came forward and said he molested me.

One other band, because the father managed bands, some major bands. And so one of the bands- No, the father was the head of Live Entertainment, which was a- Big player. Yeah, a big company. So one of the bands from the previous bands back in the day came out and said, yeah, he molested me as well, but we don't know. If he did molest them, I think they get a pass, if you if this was habitual of how do you explain the mom?

Well, the mom that happened so that's what they're saying now I'm just saying after you've done 35 years they're grown men now and I've done 35 years of the long stretch So going back to my original question do they get out are they gonna be like gas gone in? 2024 in Los Angeles, yes. Well, isn't there a new district attorney? Yes, Hockstein. Yeah, and I think who's a little more harsh on crime- He can't be any worse than Gascon.

Yeah, but well, no, Gascon was the one who was criticized for letting a lot of criminals out. That's what I'm saying. Like a lot of these quote unquote progressive DAs- There's only one way to go and it's up. The one in San Francisco is recalled. Yes. I think Alvin Bra the one in San Francisco is recalled. Yes. Um, I think Alvin Bragg in New York will be recalled. So that, you know,

a lot of people in regular people are going, I don't think that violent criminals should be given bail and then let back out on the street. Call me crazy, but you're a scumbag for a bad guy. So kiss my ass, stay in jail. So you, you have that in the air. And being a district attorney is a political position. They're very aware of, you know, their behavior and whether it comes back to haunt. So do you think they get out? That's why I keep asking. I know. I think they do. I think in 2024, this can be 2025 in January when they do the read. I do. I think they get out, but it always

happens when these Netflix shows or documentaries hit, there's. Yeah, I think they get out. But it always happens when these Netflix shows or documentaries hit, there's a big push to whoever to get out. Like the making the murder guy. Yeah. So everybody except the people in that city, in that village, I was on tour there when that was coming out.

They're all, you gotta stop saying this guy should get out. People here, we know the facts, 100% guilty. Yeah. You guys gotta stop that narrative. Yeah. Because then the court of law, they look at everything. You guys got to stop that narrative. Because then the court of law, they look at everything. But also remember Netflix has a agenda. The documentaries or the shows want you to think, Oh my God. Did we just take a hard ride and stop talking about fun stuff and talk about death?

No, this is all part of it. It's all part of it. Well, do you want to fire on the kid? Yeah, this is all part of it. You can talk about anything. What I want to talk about is this. I think what's the most impressive thing is there are a few people I'm thinking about. Sylvester Stallone, been relevant for 50 years.

Gene Simmons, relevant for 50 years. Ozzy Osbourne? Well, not as much. Ah, I disagree. Yeah, but maybe- MTV? Yeah, yes, yes, yes. I'll give you that.

Which one? Yeah, he's up there. But- What does relevant mean, by the way? What does that mean, Brian? In other words, when you're coming in to do a podcast, we get excited because it's impossible to ignore your impact. Okay, let's go through it.

So Kiss, never been a band like it. You change the game when it comes to merchandise. You keep talking about things that in my world just don't matter. Oh, I know just don't matter. Oh, I know they don't matter. I'll tell you why. Go ahead. In my world, there are bands, political figures, all kinds of figures that have made impact

in media. The Importance colon, semi colon, or otherwise. The Ramones, such an important band and so on. But only had one gold record and could never play arenas. Chicago had 22 multi-platinum albums in a row. Jeez. And get no credibility. So either it's of the people, for the people, by the people, or a select group of critics

or important people get to decide what's important. So in my world, money talks, nobody walks. So you can be important, but I prefer what Cuba Gooding Jr. said, show me the money. Yeah. In fact, paintings that are so valuable, the only reference is it's priceless, you can't put a price on it. So we can talk until, or argue until we're blue in the face

about the importance or relative, it's so relevant. But see, I'm not talking about that. Well, I'm talking about a mindset that keeps creating. What I think is you're very creative. Family jewels. Come along with that. You're being Jesus in our family jewels. Yeah.

See what I just did? I did. Yes. It's true. Right? Yeah. And then also, so you're an off-knoir musician keeping your family together. You seem to have a great relationship with your kids.

Oh, I'm not. Let those who are without sin cast the first stone. Yeah, well, please. I was attracted to skirt just as you guys were all my life. It's the nature of the beast. In fact, the more promiscuous males of this species are actually gay by far, far more promiscuous than we are. Because men... I mean, look how long you two have been together.

It's true. And look at how we're looking at you. And we're in an open relationship. We you two have been together. It's true. And look at how we're looking at you. And we're in an open relationship. We'll bring you right in. We fuck everything. It's gonna be a trifecta. I don't want, you know. You in particular, I have a feeling

are gonna be very popular in jail. Oh yeah. I mean that in a very nice way. Hopefully in a good way, yeah. He'll be ruling the roost. Yeah. He'll be what? Ruling the roost.

He's a big boy. Ruling the roost. Yeah. He'll be what? Ruling the roost. He's a big boy. Ruling the roost. Everybody's going to do what he says. I'll get the prettiest lady boy. Sometimes the big guys are soft and mushy. Yeah. That's what I've heard. I'm sweet and sour.

Yeah, both. Sweet and sour. He can get sour. Yeah, sweet and sour. You get all sweet until you get sour. Sour until I have to. Yeah. I don't like to, though.

Yeah. But you'll fight. Well, I'm with him. Show me the money, man. Show me the money. I'm going to throw up any second. I don't know. You're the one who's bringing it. You're the one. See what happens? But I like to though. Yeah, but you'll fight. Well, I'm with him, show me the money, man. I'm gonna throw up any second. You're the one who's bringing, you're the one, see what happens?

You dip your toe in the, you stick your finger in the cage, you get bit and then you're like, I don't wanna do this anymore. Come on, man. Now we're the gay ones. Now we're the gay ones. Now we're the gay ones. I mean, he's been casting us as a couple the whole time.

I'm getting turned on. Relevance is. I thought I was straight before this podcast, for God's sake. Relevance you don't care about. You care about money. I don't mean that. What I mean is it's highly overrated. Sure, everybody likes to be loved and all that stuff, but not everybody likes Jesus either. So this whole idea of you're never going to be admired and loved by everybody. So get over it.

I tell you, I'm not in that. At the end of the day, you should be, thank your lucky stars or kiss the ground or whatever it is, if you've found a way to put a roof over your head and feed your family. That's right. End of story. What people say about it, it's- Especially when you get to use your imagination to do it. Or even if you're a complete copy of what went before, because there are a lot of things that are and have been

and will continue to be enormously successful that are just exactly the same as what went before. Because at the end of the day, look, the generations are going by every, used to be every 10 years there's a new generation. Now it's every few years, there's a new generation of No, now it's every few years there's a new generation of kids that come along that have never heard of anything, well that's just a copy of that.

They go, I don't know what that is. I remember Motley did a song called Smokin' in the Boys Room. And I'm thinking, come on, Smokin' in the Boys Room, come on, Brownsville Station. Nobody's heard that. Because it was just a direct replica. You haven't heard them, the original version.

I don't know Brownsville Station, I know. That's my point. They had a hit with smoking in the boys' room that was remade as the generations pass. Your eyesight and your perception is all relative to where you are, you know, sort of like an accident your eyesight and your perception is all relative to where you are, you know, sort of like an accident on a highway, you know, people going one way, see one accident, people going the other way,

see a completely different thing. I think Oscar Wilde said all art is theft, or something like that. Sure, everybody quote, borrows from everybody else. I just wanna drop Oscar Wilde's nickname for you. You actually read? I do, I do. I haven't read to me.

But it doesn't have photos in the book. No pictures. It never permeates. I read, but I don't understand. I still love pop-up books. You know, they have words and that stuff pops up. I know. There's probably a Kiss pop-up book.

Tell me there is. Well, we have those. Yeah, we have those. Come on, man. Why not? I a question for jean. I never touched her I used to watch jean simmons family jewels as well and for many years you were famously unmarried. Yeah Famously for that, um, and then recently you did get married So I kind of wanted to know Can we know why or what changed?

Sure. Sure, because men are idiots. Let me talk about myself because you can't talk for men. Well, actually they all gave me the right to do that. We give you the right. But I won't stand on ceremony. I have been arrogant, self-obsessed, and well, look at it from my point of view. So you live under the roof of your mom and dad.

You're lucky if your dad's home because many dads just get up and abandon their families. My father did. So I was left with my mother and worshiped the ground. My mother walked on and still think about her every day. She was my moral compass. Without my mother, I would have gone to the dark side long ago. But there are certain things that my mother and your mother and everybody's mother didn't want you to do or say or do.

It's like, when do I get out and breathe my own air and decide things for myself and as soon as you're old enough to move out of the house, you meet a chick, you fall for her and then it's another set of rules. Where are you going? Where have you been? Who have you been with? And all that stuff. My reaction initially was who wants to know? I'm free. I never wanted to get married. I never wanted kids. I didn't want to turn into my father. And for the longest time, you're talking about Shannon,

who I've been with for 41 years. God bless her. I met her when she was one. Still together. Don't kill my joke. Sorry. Hey, man. Edit that out.

Edit that out. No, don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me. Leave, man. Edit that out. Edit that out. No, don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me. Leave it in. Keep going. But for the first 29 years, 29 years, even we were together. We lived under the same roof.

Shannon gave birth to Nick and Sophie. There are no secrets here. I took thousands of photos of the chicks. I did whatever you would imagine guys, they're probably, no I did. And for the first 29 years, even though we were together, she never tortured me about the stuff, are we gonna get married, are we not?

She never did any of that stuff. And at 62 years of age, which was a while back, I'm 75 now, and boy do I look good, and I dropped to my knees in Belize, Belize that are not, see what I did there? There's another play I want to do. Good humor, good humor. And I remember, you know, guys want to be in control

because we don't want to get emotional. We want to be in control of what we say and what we think and do because that's how we're raised. And I remember just sputtering and getting, I guess, flustered at the word. And the words came out that I never thought I would say. And at 62, I thought it's probably time to fucking get over yourself and do the right thing because I would have kicked my sorry ass out the first year.

I would have. There's just no, so ethically and morally women are far more, let's say evolved or better than the male of the species. You guys heard him. By far. Me and Brian already knew this. Me and Brian already knew this. Well, we came to that. That's why we got married. I came to that conclusion.

Yeah. I came to that conclusion. Well. It takes a long time. Women don't understand, which is why they fall for the pool boy, the guy with the big muscles, got a full head of hair, hung like Mr. Ed. Whatever those... Jesus. I know the kids don't know who Mr. Ed was. Mr. Ed's a horse.

A talking horse. But when they see you got deep voice, got a barrel judge, you know, all that stuff. No, that's just a 14 year old kid who's going to mount your mother when you turn your back. Cause that's what we do. Yeah. And it has, has, uh, it changed the perception with your, with your kids, with your daughter, with your son, the way they look at marriage. Like is your son running the same game as you are?

My son is not, is very careful not to get married. He's got a great girl, Kelty, who's nuts about, but he's 33 now, believe it or not. Do you give him any advice? Like, come on, just one? No, because everybody's journey has got to be their own. You can't follow my, do this and do that. You have to go through these mistakes. You've got to learn on your own.

You've got to fall down and find out what works, what doesn't for you, because what makes you happy may not make me happy. My daughter, Sophie, my, our daughter Sophie, is married to a great guy, James. No smoking, no drinking was a born into a Mormon family but doesn't practice you know just an amazing amazing husband they're married and I would assume yeah she's not gonna date a rock star I'm sorry I would assume Sophie's not gonna go for the rock star after seeing bring up Sophie Simmons billboards

around the world. She's a huge songwriter, singer, producer, manager. Really? Sophie Simmons, you see those billboards? She's gorgeous. Those are around the world. Look at how gorgeous, she's gorgeous. That's right.

That's Toronto and I don't know where the other one is. Yeah, yeah. So she sings and manages and, uh, Unbelievable. See, I said Gene Simmons on X, Go Sophie Go in Toronto. That's a video billboard. What in the world? She's won awards and Nick has, uh, Simferra, S-Y-M-F-E-R-A.

Would you bring up? That's a band? Yes, he and his pal Vinnie and their music has been on movies and TV like Ozark, the two hour end of Ozark. Good looking kid. Met him, met your son a long time ago. And he's 6'8". Yeah, he's a big boy.

He's tall. 6'8". Yeah, he's very big. Yeah, and the sweetest, much nicer than his dad. He used to scream at me when I would walk out of the house, what, what, what? And how bad? There's an ant over there, literally.

So his music's been on Ozark and a TV show called Prodigal Son and all kinds of stuff. So not only did you win in life as a rock star, but you won as a dad too. I mean, when you have two kids who are successful, that kind of says a lot. And never asked either of us our opinion.

Wow. And don't want approval or anything. They want to be able to go out on their own and succeed. Or not on their own. They didn't want to play the, in fact, Sim Farah was a secret. Nick didn't want to use his last name Simmons until they just, as they say, came out because he didn't want to. So he got the- Be under the shadow of his dad. No, he didn't want to do that.

Because there had to be a lot for him when you guys were doing the reality show too, for the kids. Well, Nick got a head start right away because people in town started to hear his voice and they go, wait, something's going on there. In fact, the doors auditioned Nick to be their lead singer. Oh wow.

Yeah. I was there outside, they lead singer. Oh wow. Yeah. I was there outside, they wouldn't let me in. Damn. Well they were intimidated. But no, I would have been a little different because Nick at that time was 20 and change and the doors were decades older and short. So he's six foot eight, you know, it would have been.

But if you listen to the sound, you can still Google and schmugal it. He sounds like Martin Luther. Who's got the hydrogen family? You're tall, obviously six four or whatever. The mailman? The mailman, yeah. It's a big boy. My father, I don't know if you have that on there.

My father was a very, very tall man, but I don't know how tall. Could have been, There he is. Wow. Top right. And he was never in your life? Well, he left us I must have been

seven. Must have been seven years. Did you ever establish a relationship with him or no? Never? Sure. You know. Once you got famous a relationship with him or no? Never. Sure. Once you got famous. On that level, but after he left, he kept sending letters and stuff and I would never answer,

but as soon as I made the money, as my mother would call the money, not as soon as I made money, I bought him houses and supported him and he got married another at least four or five other times and had Kids and everything and there may be other why did you why did you? You obviously had a problem with him leaving you didn't answer his calls. I never thought of it that way, because you know, you've got the ids, the supra, and all that stuff. So what you deal with consciously

may not be what's going on under the surface. I've never done the shrink stuff. But you know, when you go to sleep, you have dreams which supposedly are closer to what you feel and stuff. So I'm sure there's some wounds in there that I... Well he left and did he leave to another state? You just didn't see him.

Yeah, did he explain why he left? Was that guy just can't handle it? You could point to Israel was a new country. It was difficult to survive. There was no infrastructure, no port concrete roads. It was just all dirt. You'd be shocked. I never saw, I never heard of television

until we came to America. I never heard of, we didn't have a radio. We had an icebox. Right, you came to the States when you were eight and he left when he was seven. So you were in Israel when he left. Yeah, so there was nothing, I didn't know, that never, didn't see cars or buses or anything.

They were mules pulling stuff. I mean like real time machine stuff. We remember Israel is only 75 years old as a country. So it's as old as Genesis. Although shockingly, it is one of the top three places of inventions. In fact, this was invented by Motorola in Haifa. The phone case? Star Wars technology.

They are the leading country that way outperforms most countries on the planet. You mean the Jews are innovative? I've never heard that. Like Hollywood. Don't get into that. Hollywood monotheism, we can go through stainless steel you got have you got oh boy this is gonna get me in so can you can you plug this

in there I know ready yep I know you're gonna say can I say what you're gonna say you're gonna say how many how many Jews have won Nobel prizes no okay how many Jews are in the NBA invented no all All right. Go on. What's 12 inches in Jewish? Nothing. Okay. I was actually going to point that out. I can say that. She was about to type that in. Okay. Put this up there. This is actually, it's not a Jewish journal. It's not an Israeli thing. It's not her at saying it's none of that stuff. You'll see where it's from. R-A-R-E, Ashkenazi, A-S-H, K-E-N, Ashkenazi, Jews.

Here we go, the smartest people on earth. See, National Institute of Health. Are Jews smarter than everyone else? It's actually true. Well, their IQ tests are off the charts. Off the charts. That's the bell curve. That's one of the more inconvenient truths that people don't talk about.

But if you look at where Ash Ashkenazi's but then again You know if you look at like, I don't know Sigmund Freud Jews of European origin who tests higher than any other ethnic group The overall IQ means somewhere between a half and a full standard deviation Above the mean with the source of difference concentrated on the verbal component. It means Einstein and Freud. That's what it means. That's right. Sorry.

I mean, Hollywood was, you know, really the main studios were started by four Polish Jews. All of them. All of them, right. They invented a business, all of them, Paramount, Universal, or all Jews who changed their names, Warner Brothers, and there was never a business, they invented it. The international banking were invented by, they're off-charts, interest on loans invented by the Jews, on and on and on.

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because originally Arabs were not Muslims, pre-Muslim, Islam is about a thousand five hundred years old or so, but Arabs were the center especially even Even in Persia, which was not They're not Arabs. They're Persians. We use Arabic numbers Astrology, I mean astronomy all kinds of things were invented by the Arabs and bears noting pre Islam Before that came so at any rate, today that's what those studies say. I can't wait for the hate mail.

Everybody's got something to say. Yeah, the anti-Jewish hatred is at an all-time high right now. It's never been. Yeah, it's never been. It's the same story for 6,000 years. Yeah. That's okay. That's right. That's. Yeah, you seem to be doing all right. Everybody gets hatred of some kind from somewhere. And we've got to watch out for each other because if you don't, you're next. That's right. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. There's a great letter that the Hebrew Center,

I think it's called, wrote to George Washington. George Washington wrote to that, basically saying in Newport, because a lot of people don't realize that the Jews were here as early as 1700. Yeah. And so, they had communities and everything else. And one of the things that there's a famous letter that that that that from Newport, a Jewish center wrote to George Washington, basically saying, Are we safe? And it's a famous letter because George Washington's essentially said this is a country where everyone can live under their own fig leaf. And the reason the Jew back in the 1700s was saying, are we safe is because that's been the, that's been a concern of people of that faith since, for 6,000 years.

Yeah. Well, we're learning history here. By the way, a note to our African American brethren. Yes. There's no female version, there's no sister and there's just brethren. Yeah. So people talk about ghetto all the time, but it's not a black term.

No, it's not. It's a Jewish term, yeah? That is correct. It comes from during the Renaissance, that's how they pronounce it. Renaissance. Renaissance, we say it's French. Renaissance, that's right, French word. So the Italians, because it was a trading center, all the spices and the materials and stuff

would go through there, people would make their money and it would go to the rest of the world. And so Jews became very successful because they already had a banking system. They would loan people money and charge interest, which if you were Christian, by edict of the Pope, you were not allowed to do. Never a lender or borrower be. That's right. Same thing in Islam, by the way. Yep. In Islam, too, you couldn't practice usury. You could, that's right. You're not allowed to, you know, put interest on the money. And Jews said, why not? I'm giving you money and you're using it. I can't use it, so give me a little bit more. You're renting allowed to, you know, put interest on the money. And Jews said, why not? I'm giving you money and you're using it. I can't use it, so give me a little bit more.

You're renting my money. When you give it back, yeah, makes perfect business sense. Creates a lot of money. And hence the banking system was invented. So Jews did very well, but they were of course hounded and people would try to kill them. And they, even the rich Jews around the Medici period in Italy were not allowed to live among the general population.

They were allowed to live where the city-states, because Rome was a city-state, Florence was a city-state, there was no such thing as Italy initially, they were allowed to live where they baked bricks to make buildings. That area was called the geta, G-E-T-T-A. Jews lived in the geta where they, the smoke and the stuff, 24 hours a day they'd be baking bricks and making them whole because of pollution. Ghetto is a Jewish term. ghetto is a Jewish term. Geta. In fact before during World War II was the Warsaw ghetto. It's where the Jews of Poland tried to hide an area of course they couldn't. Yep. Ghetto is a Jewish term. Now you know. Yeah and you were also in that vein in your

household you were raised to be artistic right? Rais raised to be somewhat innovative. Was there pressure on you? You didn't think about those things. You just thought I have the advantage of being an only child to my mother. And you were only child? Yes, to my mother. Why did your mom come? Why did they leave Israel? Just for work? It was tough. You could barely survive. You know, I remember going with my mother once a week down to the government area and there were pieces of newspapers, single sheets,

and they would give you a slab of butter and you'd wrap the newspaper a slab of meat. Everybody was on rations. So you came to the United States, you come to New York, just you and your mom. Yes, that's right. Damn! And you're eight years old. It comes from one of the biggest bands ever. Yeah, yeah, you're eight years old and it's just you and your mom. Obviously you're protective over your mom. You're a man.

You're a boy who goes, the world's dangerous, I gotta protect my mom. The only way to protect my mom is to make money, figure out a way to contribute. Well, that was the cornerstone. It was, you know, the sort of liberal progressive kind of mental preoccupation with money is not everything is so wrong.

Money is. When you don't have money, it's everything. No, money is not everything is so wrong. When you don't have money, it's everything. No, money is everything. A poor person understands that. That's right. When you're rich and you're born in generations. You're talking about meaning. Money is not everything. Tell you what, bitch, any dollar you don't want, send to me. Send to me. Because even God passes the hat.

Money is the root of all evil. What idiot ever came up with that? Well, it's actually the love of money, right? It's the lack, well, I don't hate it. Right. It buys me food. When you don't have money, it sucks. I don't hate it, yeah.

No, no, loving money is good. No, you better love it. Lack of money, lack of money is good. Right. No, you better love it. Lack of money, lack of money is the root of all evil. Yeah. If you don't have money, you may consider holding up a 7-Eleven, God forbid. Charlie Chaplin talked about this. He goes, anybody who says that money, that you don't need money, didn't grow up with

the humiliation of poverty. Poor. He's growing up poor. He goes, poverty is dirty, it's humiliating, it's all the bad things. It's in the language, how did you do on your test? Poorly. Thank you, poorly. So, I love that bitch, give me a break.

Yeah. Oh, don't listen to these people. If you've been rich for generations, don't talk about, don't go for them for advice. The best kind of advice or points of views about life are people who knew the pangs of hunger and didn't have, you know, it's like once you become rich you make sure your genes are torn just so. My mother would never let me leave the house with torn jeans.

But now they cost 15, how much, Terry, how much is torn jeans now? The style. $300. You can spend more than that. You can spend a grand on them. Yeah, you want to tear them because we want to say we're poor.

Yeah. Do you remember the first time? Why else would you want to tear your clothes? Do you remember the first idea you had that made money? Yes, we were in Israel and I had a next door neighbor whose name was Shlomo Solomon, who was a Moroccan Jew. You know, very dark and very African, because that's where they came from.

Semantic. And he and I were pals. And Johnny Carson used to do this joke about, when I was a kid I just had a stick in a rock. Johnny stick, you can throw it, you can catch it. Johnny stick, actually that's what I had. I had my stick and I used to have my favorite rock and I throw it and I run af, God you know you didn't have money for toys. Like a dog playing fetch with himself.

Yeah, you did the best you could and we'd wind up, we lived on the ground of Mount Carmel, the biblical Mount Carmel that you're talking about. There really is a hill called Mount Carmel. Yep. That's in the Bible. And that's where I lived with my mother. And I used to climb up this hill, which wasn't maybe 100 feet tall or something,

and there were cactus fruit. And I don't know what, going back to that singularity, Shlomo and I decided let's pick cactus fruit which grew wild and of course had pricks all over it. Prickly pear. Oh my God, prickly pear. Tiny, tiny, they get in your skin.

Israelis call themselves sabre, which is the cactus fruit, prickly on the outside and sweet on the inside. So we picked these cactus fruit and wrapped them in newspapers and went down to where Baba Aaron, like Father Aaron, he was an Arab Jew, and he put it into a tub for us and put ice water in it. And we carried, we somehow knew what we were doing, we carried this tub full of ice water in it and we carried, we somehow knew what we were doing, we

carried this tub full of ice water and the floating cactus fruit inside to the bus stop where at the end of the day all the hard-working people would come back home and we charged half a pruta or like a shekel, pennies for one of these and sold out everything and with the money, both he and I divided it, I don't know how much we had, I remember, this gets me all choked up, I remember stopping on the way up back to my mom's house and buying my first ice cream and I will tell you, I'm 75 now, I tasted, I can still taste that first taste of my first ice cream

that I bought with my money. By the sweat of my own brow it says in the good book that my people gave the rest of you people on the planet. Take it easy, take it easy over there. It is either true or it's not. It is what it is. Yeah, it depends what you read. Even the New Testament. Correct.

Written by my people. Correct. So, and I remember feeling the pride of what people must feel like, you know, when you work hard, you get money, and you can buy stuff with your money. You don't have to say thank you to anybody. I remember taking the rest of the shekels,

money, the coins, and spreading it out on the table in front of my mother, and I'll never forget, it was the first lesson I had about my mom, certainly, but also the female of the species. When I put all the money on the table, my money came over and gave me the biggest hug and she said, that's my little man. I go, oh, money. Manhood. Even God passes the hat, okay?

Yep. Money is good. Money is the only thing that allows me to buy my mother the hip operation she may need or to feed my family or do anything else. Without it, you know, love is the most powerful thing on the planet. That's a lie. It's unfortunately a lie. You've got an Ethiopian woman on the Kalahari Desert holding her child and giving it all the love you could ever imagine, be willing to give her life for her child. You will die without money or without the ability

to feed your child. You're going to die. First money, then love. In fact, money is the expression of love. That's not what they teach you in school. It's independence, it's freedom, it's power, it's all the things. It's safety. Happiness.

It's comfort. It's all those things, man. We talk about this all the time. Even, by the way, I've had this conversation with people. I've written a few business books. One is Me, Inc., Me, Incorporated, and Power Books and all this stuff. And it talks about the stuff they don't teach you in school. I used to be a sixth grade teacher and

Spanish Harlem and Where I learned my first lesson which is Marie Kong or a to you who they owe which does not mean good morning Jewish person it does not mean that it doesn't mean that You thought it did but it doesn doesn't. Upon closer inspection. Yeah. Google Translate says something else. Yeah. I forgot where I was going.

That's going to happen to you too. No, no, no, no, no. You're, you're, you're right with it. You're saying money you were teaching in sixth grade. You were teaching in sixth grade in Spanish Harlem. Yeah. You learned your first lesson. And then what happened?

You were saying, we were talking about money. We're talking about money is in fact, is love, it's everything. There is- Well, they don't teach you that in school. No, they don't. You go to book and the book is about- When you go to school, it is so depressingly stupid because you've got young impressionable minds who are just, they want to understand this world that they came into.

And they're conditioning you to work a nine-to-five That's all did you learn anything about capitalism in school? No, nothing. How to get a what's a job? What? Nothing nothing you want to know they're conditioning you so you can be a good nine-to-five employed I'd be innovative how to try to provide you but you did have shop class how to make a little don't now Yeah, you got rid of that. So there's bells how to try to provide. But you did have shop class, how to make a little toy. The kids don't now. Yeah. They got rid of that. So there's bells, three conditions.

We should be learning how to solve problems. Well, I learned the most about capitalism when I signed up for Junior Achievement, which at that time was a really simple idea. If you were 12 or 13, and I was, they'd get captains of industry, people who had their own businesses, and they would kindly take the time in the afternoon after school and have a room full of kids

and talk about stuff. One subject was, hey kids, let's form a company. This is how America does. Okay, yeah, I want to form a company. This is how America does. Okay, yeah, I want to form a company. What kind of company would you like to form? I like cookies, okay. Let's form a cookie company, okay?

What are we gonna call the cookie company? And you go through the steps. Now, what, kids, what do the, and I remember this, kids, what do companies need? What does everybody need? What do all living things need, money, that's right. We need money to buy equipment, to make the stuff, where are we gonna do it, who's gonna do it,

they're gonna have to get paid, like sort of a microcosm of what capitalism is all about. Okay, we need money. Does anybody have money? We don't have any money. Okay, well then let's try to raise money. The simple idea would be go to your parents, see if you can get a dollar and your uncle and stuff, get money or we can have pieces of paper

and you'll be share, you'll sell shares in the company and if there's a profit, you'll divide up the shares. And we actually made cookies and sold them, and made a few pennies, and sort of then understood, ah, you can apply that to cars and clothing, and that's how it works. And I learned more there than I ever did in school. When did you make your first significant amount of money?

Where you said, mom, we don't have to worry that much. We're good, yeah. We could breathe a little bit. Well, significant significance and significant money keeps being diluted because inflation keeps. Let's say a million dollars. Million dollars. Your first meal.

You mean lunch money for Shannon. She's eating at everyone. She's a padma. Oh, right away. Kiss was a very strange, it's a singularity. We started New Year's Eve, 1974, as the clock struck the thing. I've got to stop you, because actually more important, when you go through the trauma of poverty, when that ice cream cone tastes that good, when you are the sole breadwinner in a way,

I know your mom worked but I'm just saying, the amount of pressure to make that money just to stay in a house so you don't get kicked out in the winter time in Manhattan, back then I know a lot about that. The idea is for a young kid or a young man you don't have time for art you don't have time for music what you have time for is to make money any way you can so you're thinking that way but somehow you said I'm going to be a rock and roll star I would have told you you're out of your mind. No no I wanted to make money the phrase is rich and famous. Ah rich and famous. I didn't make that up I'm just aware of the mind. No, no, I wanted to make money. The phrase is rich and famous. Ah, rich and famous.

I didn't make that up, I'm just aware of the rules. Let him finish with answering your first million dollars, like your first real money. Well, the journey happened very fast. Before MTV, before cell phones, before anything, even before voicemail, we started in the early January of 74, sometimes I think it's 1874, and within a year and a half we were headlining Anaheim Stadium on top of bands that had been around 15 years. But does that mean you're making money because right you have a manager of the

production. In the beginning all the yes we making money, but all the money went back into the show. Correct. We were headlining Anaheim Stadium and my salary was $85 a week. Jeez. Yeah. 50 years ago. By the way, it went up $10 from $75 a week a few months before then.

Was that good back then? Well, I had no costs. I didn't start driving a car and didn't own one until I was 34. Oh, wow. Well, in New York, you just take the subway or take a cab. Yeah. And I was living with a chick who I was not intimate with. In a duplex, my rent was $200 a month. It was nothing. So there were no costs, no overhead. I didn't have insurance. It was a different time.

So a dollar could buy you a lot of stuff. When I went to college, you could buy a Volkswagen for under $3,000. Geez. Now you can go buy a Tootsie Roll for... Yeah, I'll spend that at Erewhon. Yeah. And so...

Oh, you bet. So we got big really fast, and my mother spoke very halting English and had a very thick Hungarian accent. We spoke a few languages, Hungarian and Hebrew and English and some other stuff. And she always called the band, how is the orchestra? The band is fine, mom.

How is the orchestra? Yeah, that's, what is the difference? I don't know. No, it just works. It works. Yeah, you play music and there's more than one. It's an orchestra. It works. Mom's right. Electric light orchestra.

And so, you know, you want to take care of your mom. Every little boy, so as soon as I make money, I'm going to take care of my mom. And in those days, checks is how big money came. There was either cash, there were no credit cards, no such thing. It was cash or you wrote a check. And I remember showing my mother a check. It had, it was more than one and my mother didn't understand all the zeros.

We're talking like six zeros, Jane, or what are we talking there? Uh, yeah, it was, it was six zeros, but it was more than one. Yeah. I'll tell you what, let's take a break. Cause I'll tell you what people aren't talking about enough this holiday season. And that's your dong.

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I'd have mom go buy houses, go buy whatever you want. It's yours and everything. And before she- How old were you? You were probably 25? I was 56 then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were 25. Put it over the plate. I'll hit it right over. Put it over the plate.

I was 20- That was 70. Put it over the plate. That was 20. Twenty-five? Two or 23. Wow. Wow. And so she didn't understand the amount. So she put the check aside because she didn't understand it. She understands cash, you know.

And she wanted to know who gave me the money, and who pays you, and where do you go to work? You know, like, this is a job, who's your boss, what are the hours, that's what she understood. And she never understood her entire life how you get the money. You try to explain it to somebody. It's still sort of, it's like, here's the equivalent today.

It's in the cloud. What are the fucks that? Explain that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Explain it. Try to explain it. It's up there. Yeah.

And so she never understood it. But no, I took care of mom. That's what you're supposed to do. Houses and stuff and cars. My poor mother spoke halting English and she failed her driver's test five, count it, one, two, three, four, five times. She got a brand new car and everything. Now, Gene, that check that you got, did all the bandmates get it? Did you divvy it up evenly amongst all of you? In the beginning, it was

equally divided up, but soon enough Paul and I decided the other two guys weren't putting in as much time and effort. How'd that combo go? We were writing all the songs and that changed pretty fast. How'd that conversation go with those other bandmates? Oh, never well. Everybody validates their own importance to something. Of course. Without me in the band you couldn't, you know. But welcome to Planet Earth. But I want to quickly get to my mother's last drive, the time before she passed the driver's test, she's in the car, she was explaining to me, because I speak fluent Hungarian.

I worked very hard and you were sitting there, you were there, and I said... You know, she's telling me, and he tells me, now slow down, we're coming to a red light, she goes, okay, slow down. And she slows down. Okay, when the light turns green, I want you to turn left. Do you understand? Yes, make left where the light is green. He goes, that's right. She goes left. He goes right.

So she turned right. She failed the test. Unbelievable. She goes left, he goes right. So she turned right. She failed the test. Unbelievable. And how long was she with us? How, I'm sorry? When did she pass? How old were you?

She was 94. Oh wow, good right. Yeah. And that's after my mother, bless her, actually survived the Nazi concentration camps of World War II. Oh wow. She was there at 14 camps of World War II. Oh wow. She was there at 14 years of age. Damn.

And her entire family and my entire family were incinerated. And yet... I pause because I tend to get choked up. And yet, through my mother's wisdom, this notion of every day above ground is a good day is a good piece of advice for all of us living in America because whatever the fuck you think is going, look at that traffic jam,

you got a bad hair day or something, my girlfriend, it doesn't matter. Means nothing relative to what went on 70 years ago. That's right. That's exactly right. That's nothing. You have no idea. Or today, go to Africa, see how your life is. That's right. That's exactly right. I always say that I grew up overseas my whole life. And I always say that I said, if Americans just traveled even one month abroad and went to countries, most countries, they would realize that they are

privileged Americans. So stop it right now. Stop arguing about your pronouns. Correct. All that shit. Where did you grow up? I was born in the Philippines. I lived in India, Pakistan and I'm sorry, India,

where Mumbai and. Air Force. No, banking and probably. CIA, probably government stuff. But then we went to Lebanon, then Pakistan, then Lebanon again, the war broke out, we got evacuated to Greece. Which war? Every few years. Well, I mean, Lebanon's constantly in battle.

It was the civil war between the Muslims and the Christians. The Druze. The Druze, the Druze were, well the Druze were one faction. And then there was the Christian phallangist. The phallangist, thank you, thank you bro, this man knows. Not only that, but the original Aramaic, that was the language that connected Hebrew and Arabic together, was started by the- Phoenicians? By the the Lebanese which were originally called

the Phoenicians I think. The Phoenicians is correct. I love it. I love your command of history. He knows his shit. Yeah, he knows his shit. And then I was in Saudi Arabia and I went to, I came to boarding school because my family was still over there and I had to go to boarding school in Massachusetts and then college in

Washington DC. Do you speak other languages? I speak French a little bit. You are the wall of my life. That's not bad. Salute. Gene Simmons, but he speaks French. It's incredible.

Gene Simmons. But your accent is interesting. It's not Parisian. No, it's Lebanese. It's where I learned it. Well, not so much, but you speak Arabic? I speak, no, no, Shweya, Shweya, I don't know, I thought it would be Shweya. Because it was a French language.

Yeah, but my mother spoke it, learned it. It's a very difficult, rich language. Arabic is, there's Egyptian Arabic, there's Moroccan Arabic, there's Algerian Arabic, there's Iraqi Arabic. Your mom's fluent, B? My mom was. She worked very hard at it. Is that mom is still around? Mom's still around, 83. Dad's 85. fluent, B? My mom was. She worked very hard at it. It's not, mom is still around.

Mom's still around, 83. Dad's 85, I'm going to see them today. What's your mom's name? Vicki. Victoria Sclafani. So my mother was Sicilian. Vicki? Oh yeah, Vicki.

Say hello, Aron. Gene knows. I'm kidding, I'm kidding! This is why Gene and I have, we kind of look a little bit alike. I didn't get his height or shoulder width. Hi, Vicki. She's a little Sic alike. I didn't get his height or his shoulder width. Hi, Mickey. She's a little Sicilian woman from Brooklyn.

Dad's the giant, he's the big boy from, he's the Irishman from Wisconsin. But I didn't live in this country when I was 14. Historically, they were not giants. Those are remnants of when the Vikings. That's exactly right. The talents? Well, no, the Irish.

Oh, no. The Vikings were the ones that came in. The Celts and the Picts. Yeah. The original peoples were short. The Vikings were the ones that came in. The Celts and the Picts. The original peoples were short. Yeah, are you surprised that Gene Simmons knows everything about history as well? It's not everything, but you want to know stuff. You don't want to know where you come from.

You don't want to be a low-information individual. We tried to tell our producer this and he gets mad. No, because I didn't. As a matter of fact, your height is suspicious. It is. He's a giant Korean man, your height is suspicious. It is. He's a giant Korean man. Get him, Gene. It's suspicious.

Korean? Korean, yeah. How'd you know? Kamsamida. Oh, kamsamida. You said face? Any language, bitch. Any language.

Yeah? What do you think I am? Yeah. Well, there are facial features. Everyone, oh, you're Chinese. No, completely. You get that all the time, right? That Jun's Chinese?

Oh, they're not Chinese? Because his big head? Not them, of course, you. I thought for a second you were talking about him. Not you, man. Yeah, no, I get, yeah, mistaken for Chinese. And even- I said that first, didn't I?

You did, I understood where you're going. No, but they're different, different facial features. Right away. But we were saying, Sanaz is asking, what do you think ethnicity she is, so nice. She's a far see yes I am what's the hell? I'm Persian come on. I'm not Arabic. Thank you Holy crap Far see I freeze any all the time

likes people's interest in you have to niche possess Which is actually the original thing because Armenia is right next door right? Which is actually the original thing because Armenia is right next door. That's right. What's up? What's up? Damn, dude. Thank you, thank you for giving me the clap.

I love it. And by the way, the I-A-N is the classic way of spelling. But it depends if you're from the north or south because then you got Y-A-N at the ends of their names. It means the house of. I-A-N. He is. Wow. Are you crying?

Gene, did you learn all this? I'm kind of a big deal. Did you learn all this because you were traveling too? No. No. Came from a different generation. There are books.

When I was, when I was, when I first came to America, I was just devoured. I still do television. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I couldn't understand the words, but there was a guy flying through the air with a cape, like a towel, a red towel on it. It was beyond anything. It was like religious and I didn't understand what the words were. And then originally I studied to be a rabbi, believe it or not.

Really? Yeah. My mother put me in a yeshiva. So you studied the Torah, you studied the Old Testament to the nth degree. All of it. And then became a theology major and studied other religions and everything. I'll tell you more than you want to know about Christianity, Islam, Baha'i, you name it. But anyway, I wanted to get to the point which was a few blocks away at 206 Wilson Street where we went from 7.30 a.m. until 9.30 p.m.

There was a library and I happened to walk in there because it was around the block. I was afraid of crossing the street because there were cars going by and I wasn't used to cars. And I walked in and in halting it, hello, my dear, you know, like speaking like that. And I learned quickly, oh, sit down, you could look at any books that you want and stuff. Then I found out, oh, you want to take that? You can take it for free. And you could have access to all the knowledge of mankind and that's the accurate term.

Because so far it is and has been mankind that's put all that information. Soon enough women will take that. But so far it's mankind. The buildings you live in, the roads you travel on, all the knowledge, mankind. And I, every day I'd go there and devour books, information, newspapers, anything. I'm the only person I ever met who read the Encyclopedia Britannica, cover to cover. Wow.

Yeah, that thirst for knowledge. So I will bore you to tears when there's a gathering. Did you know that the vanilla goes, shut up? I just wanna, so what are the, how did the Mets do? You know, that's all they want. I love it. I see, I'm a little bit like that and I love it. So I'd never get tired of that.

That to me is the most fun. Who were, looking back on it, I've always wondered with people like you, who are your heroes? Do you have anybody that you emulated that was responsible for your template? No. That was pretty deafening.

Well, you're pretty original. That makes sense. I admire many people who do all sorts of things I'll never be able to do. Admire is not the right word, jealous because I want, so I can juggle a ball to, but then when you would see somebody juggling 10 balls, you go, oh, I want to be able to do that. So I'm attracted to anybody who's bright, who's achieved things.

In fact, I do corporate speaking engagements and they pay me six figures just to yap. And the kind of stuff I tell people are not popular things. Get rid of your loser friends. Get rid of them. Yep. Yeah.

But we talk about sports. No, they're not going to help you hang out with better looking people, richer people and smarter people. It's the only, they're going to help you hang out with better-looking people richer people and smarter people It's the only they're gonna drag you up your friends who want to talk about I don't know Pop whatever it is. They're gonna drag you down. Yep. They will they will be the Vampires that will suck the life out of you because they're gonna be brought up That's the advice I wish I had heeded. Me too. When I was 20 years old.

Me too. Yeah, you're a little better than I am. I'm better than you, but I've made some mistakes. I'm a bad taker for picking good people. And friends of ours who are really successful were ruthless about that. That's a huge thing. And we always thought they were being mean.

Yeah. But they weren't. They just had higher standards and they were being honest with themselves. Friends is an interesting term. I would venture to say that I probably don't have friends in the way people think of friends. How so? I'm assuming the phone rings for no reason.

Hey, how you doing? Good? Yeah, what do you want? I, yep, it's gotta be about something. Hey, you wanna hang out and watch the game? No. Yeah. Well, you, you are, we're your friends now, I think.

And we're just gonna spend a lot of time together. Bullshit! What? Well, just come over. Wait, you don't wanna watch the game this Sunday with us? Gene, it's Brian and Brennan. We're outside your house. The gates are kind of high.

I've been lucky enough to own sports teams. We were the owners of LA Kiss, the arena football team. Oh, that's right. Damn. So you're a sports guy? No. I'm a success guy, a money guy. You don't have a team?

I would venture to say that Robert Kraft, also a member of the tribe, who owns the football team actually. Sorry? say that Robert Kraft, also a member of the Tribe, who owns the football team actually. I didn't know Kraft was a member of the Tribe. That means Tribe. That means Jewish everybody. My friend Dress British Think Yiddish. Yes.

That's Ralph Lauren. All those guys. Ralph and the Chits. They, but anyway the point is, I bet you he knows relatively little about football. The guys that know most actually are on the field doing it. He's the business. He knows how to make money because those are decidedly different expertise.

Completely different. 100%. 100%. The guys that know most about baseball or sports live in their mother's basement. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Oh, they'll give you stats.

He's got a tight end. He's got a halfback and all that stuff. They'll know everything. Are you as busy now at 75 as you were at 55? More, actually. You're more. How so? We, I use the royal way.

There's a film company called Simmons Hamilton. We're about to release shortly, by the new year, the first feature. It's an action adventure, action thriller called Deep Water. It's got Serban Kingsley, Aaron Eckhart. No, Adam, Aaron, Aaron Eckhart. Aaron Eckhart. Wow.

Renny Harlan directing, who did one of the Die Hards and all that. Damn. Second feature coming right after that is a restaurant thing, Rock and the Bruise. We have two at LAX and across America. I've seen Rock and Bruise. So you're literally doing restaurants and you have a production company that's producing a bunch of movies. Oh, there's much more than that.

You wouldn't have time. The Gene Simmons band is going back out on tour in the spring. Not kiss. No kiss will never tour again. We sold, we sold to the best partners. You could imagine, um, company called pop house. And what we're about to do has never been done before. Taking the only, the only reference I can point to is a caterpillar, which looks like it's the end of

its lifespan when the cocoon goes around it. When they're all fat. And then amazing things happen. They spout wings and it evolves in front of your eyes and goes to places it never dreamed it could go as a caterpillar. That's what's happening with Kiss. Oh, it'll blow your mind.

What? That's interesting. I can see you guys franchising like different, different bands, like different. Or holograms or there's a hologram. He's getting closer, but even that is. Like a Broadway show. Even that is technically archaic.

So I'm going to give you a hint. You, I'm guessing you may have had those virtual glasses on your face, right? I haven't, I don't subscribe to it. You should, only for porn. I don't like it. It's an experience because when you put it on your face, you're aware of where you are sitting on that

red, very stylish couch that you're sitting on. So you have your feet are on the couch that you're sitting on. So you have your feet are on the ground, you're centered. Once you put the virtual glasses on, you might be falling off a cliff and your center of gravity no matter where you look behind you, above you, on top of you, life as you know it has changed. And so you're off guard, you might be having conversations with somebody looks like they're punching you

and the fist comes right to your face. I mean, that's virtual reality. Now imagine that happening with no glasses. Oh, interesting. I know, ocean is right. And I've seen it. We've already spent time at, uh, George Lucas, his place up in, uh, outside of San Jose, shooting motion capture.

And it's like nothing that has existed before. You know that George stole our nanny. George Lucas did. Yes, he did. Bastard. I got a phone call out of the blue and I've said this story before. It was come on. No, no, I got a phone call. Hello, Gene? Yeah.

Who's this? It's George. Yeah. George who? George Lucas. Hi George. How you doing? Yeah.

Great. Listen, uh, I've got some kids and I've heard amazing things about your nanny. I said, you've heard amazing things? You mean Tawny? Yeah, everybody just raves about her. Yeah, we think she's very special. She was a teacher from Alaska and, you know, she's been there for our kids and everything. Well, I'd like to hire her.

No, you can to hire her. Uh, no, you can't hire her. She's our nanny and she takes care of the kids and everything and she teaches them stuff. Yeah, but I, I need that and I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll guarantee a two acre parcel of land and a new house and a job for as long as she lives. You know, how could you stand?

God, deal. How could you stand in front of that? You can't. So, so Tony went to work for Lucas and Nick, uh, our son and I flew up for the wedding. Oh. Right to Luke. And you know, we got the tour.

Oh wow. Here's the Falcon fighter, you know, and all that stuff. Here's all the money. Amazing. Oh wow. Damn George. Well, dude, how about you come back

every once a week and we'll schedule that. We'll fire the kid and the kiss. How much? We'll figure it out. We have sponsors. Relax. We'll take half of Brian's salary, give it to the Dean.

One at a time now. What? We got excited. I said we pay Brian half, give you the rest. That's it. Listen, it'd be worth it. I don't care what the description of the amount is or percentages, I just wanted an American currency.

By the way, speaking of American currency, are you guys in cryptocurrency? I am not. I am not either. I'm not knowledgeable on it. I invest in things or do things that I'm knowledgeable on. You invested in what? Not crypto. Okay. Well, I have knowledgeable on. You invested in what? Uh, not crypto.

Okay. Well, I have. Yeah. I heard some people crush it in it. And I've heard a lot of people lost their ass. So I hear both sides. There's something, well, Bitcoin's one of many of them. In fact, I own the logo, the Bitcoin logo, the trademark, including the dollar sign, the pound sign, I own the Euro. I own the UN and the dollar sign the pound sign. I own the euro

I own the UN and the yen around the world. I know you don't believe but you can go What's that? I believe you. Yeah, I believe you and but anyway the during kovat I Started reading because I read a lot of stuff about this thing, cryptocurrency and bitcoin, what's that, digital currency, the hell is that? And in essence I understood it because somewhere between the credit card and the amount of money you have is sort of in the cloud, it's not based on currency,

it's based on like credits. I have $10, this credit card is worth $10, I bought something for nine, so I signed something, and then at the end of the day, I buy something for a dollar, so I get it, and then I've got nine left, and it's all computed by a number. So that's kind of digital currency, because before credit cards came into being, people didn't trust it.

Like, what is that? It's just a plastic card. They didn't understand it. And I didn't understand, but I was curious about cryptocurrency. And a guy named Tyler Winklevoss, who's part of the Winklevoss twins, who actually created the Facebook. Yep. Well, that's up for debate, but yeah. Before, no, that's a statement of fact. Winklevoss twins who actually created the Facebook. Yep, well that's up for debate.

No, that's a statement of fact. That's why I said the Facebook and Zuckerberg. Stole it. Borrowed it. There was a settlement. There was a settlement for $26 million back in those days with a lot of money. But Winklevoss twins created the Facebook, which was changed to Facebook and then Metta. And they were in charge of Bitcoin and they wrote a paper and the paper was $550,000 Bitcoin. Years and years ago, pre-COVID, they wrote a paper published that said they believed crypto, especially Bitcoin, would go to $550,000 per coin.

At that time, Bitcoin may have been at $100 a coin. Aetherial coin. You can take physical. Now it's 74,000 I think, right? No, now it's 93,000. Jesus. We were almost at 99,000. Could you put up the same?

Did you put up the same? I just don't understand. Kathy Wood. I got bought it when it was 20. I know, but. Kathy Wood. I know, but. Says.

I'm just not knowledgeable on it. Bitcoin will be at 1,500,000 dollars a coin. I know but says I'm just not knowledgeable on it Bitcoin will be at a million five hundred thousand dollars So should we invest I got a bottle as they would as one of these I gotta we invest in Bitcoin. You're saying Jean I will never suggest or recommend anything, but still just well, let me ask this Are you in my tirade before I get too tirade? All right. Kathy would, she is the. Probably the most respected wall street investor.

She has the headline say she has glasses. I believe her. What does the headline say? It says Kathy was his Bitcoin price reaching $1.5 million by 2030 after ETF approval, I might have to buy myself a Bitcoin. So. A few of them. Fuck.

Let's say that that's highly, highly, well, it's a big number. Yeah. Yeah, it's. So, Kathy Wood said on CNBC, that's broadcast Thursday that Bitcoin, world's largest cryptocurrency by market value could reach 1.5 million in price

by 2030 in a bullish scenario, raising her estimate by 50% from a previous prediction of one million. Read the article, I'm not saying any of this, I was quoting her, so I'm not giving advice. So no, hold on. You know what, your presence here might have made us some money. Not done.

So I bought millions of dollars. In Bitcoin. Millions. Millions. In 13 cryptocurrencies, including about five or six million in Bitcoin when it was around 10,000. Oh wow.

And do I believe, my personal belief, do I believe it's gonna go to 125,000 to 150,000 by the first quarter of this coming? Yeah, I do. Is it gonna go up and down like, you know, you take a plane ride, there's always gonna be bumps, you betcha, because the short sellers, the people who want the profit right away

are gonna take their profit, even though they have to pay 40% tax and everything. So there's something called hodl, H-O-D-L, which is on purpose, misspelled it, means hold, H-O-L-D. The culture likes the way that sounds. So I'm a hodler. Yep. I believe in the Warren Buffett.

Hold on to it. Just go the distance. Long game. Yeah. Hold, just hold on to it. When you can't bear it anymore, it's like sex. Don't come right away. Just hold on.

Hold it. Sometimes you can't have it. Sometimes you can't help it. You got to sell. Despite that, just think of sports. Don't come right away. Just hold on. Hold it. Sometimes you can't have it. Sometimes you can't help it. You got to sell. Despite that, just think of sports, anything that's just hold on. The longer you hold on, the better it'll be.

And look, I rang the New York stock exchange bell by invitation in 2008 when the Dow Jones industrials were at around 8,000, right under that. And you can, why don't you Google Fox Business, Gene Simmons, New York Stock Exchange, click on that the video sir come stay out of my way that's my philosophy I like it so get those see so is it New York that's on the look at that main what's that you got a main No, no, that's just artwork. Fantastic. At any rate, the Fox Business asked me

on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange where the economy is going, I don't know anything. I'm just a citizen like you are. And I said, I don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna take all my stupid money, no Las Vegas trips, don't buy your friends drinks or dinner, don't be a big shot, don't take vacations, take all that stupid money and invest in yourself.

And buy, you like McDonald's, buy McDonald's. You like Coca-Cola, buy Coca-Cola. Invest in what you know. And now the Dow Jones industrials are what, 43,000? And now the Dow Jones industrials are what? 43,000? Long story short, Gene's rich as shit. By the way, we got, just so you know on this podcast, we go, I mean, you took us through history,

what getta means, we got where to invest. Origin story of kids. I would never from me, but there's only one thing while you're alive. You're either chasing information. Or tail. Knowledge. Yeah. Or you're going to die one pathetic blob of humanity.

That's right. And it's always changing. Yeah. And so the pursuit of knowledge is really your power base. Not lifting 400 pounds. That's good for a short haul, but yeah, that won't go very far. You know, how about I lift and invest in Bitcoin?

There you go. Yeah, but I'm telling you, the most powerful people on the planet have no muscles, no anything. You want to bring up Warren Buffett and stuff? He looks like warm cheese. Look at Bill Gates, he looks like shit. Yeah, there he is.

No, no, no, no, Nobody will ever tell that to his face. No, you've got a hundred billion to 400 billion dollars. You look great. He looks fan. Oh, yeah. No, he showed me, show me a guy with a few billion dollars who's hung like a second

graders, two feet tall, bald head. And I will show you the most beautiful women. Yeah. I know. Gather around him like flies on shit I'd say Bezos has a great talks, baby. So feel around Bezos rich as a feel around crooked. I end up cannon I heard Yeah, there's a carload of Ponte. Yeah, you know this was Was her husband Carlo car L.-A-R-L-O, Ponte, P-O-M-T-I.

She was so impossibly hot. She was certainly the most beautiful, see the third. Yes. Okay. That's the most beautiful woman in the world. With that war look. And that was her husband. What was he about, five, four?

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. He was powerful and that's what it's about. Yeah, he does look like shit, Gene. Wearing his shirt open. Well, he can do whatever he wants. Gene, we've learned a lot here. Beautiful women, the most beautiful women, because they know by a certain time, a certain

year, it ain't going to be there, are always going to be attracted to the most powerful men. Look at that, that's right. Because power is forever. Yeah, but you check both boxes though, Gene. You got power and you're not a bad looking dude. Don't start something you're not gonna finish. You see what happens? He's been eyeing you up, I've got nothing.

You're going to the dark side, don't. Listen, this night is young. And he's gonna get jealous, so... By the way, you speak English and French and... And bullshit. Arabic? No, I don't. I don't speak Arabic. Just English and French and love and the language of love.

I speak English, Hungarian, some German, Hebrew, from Hebrew, and very, very little Japanese, just enough. And I would strongly recommend anybody who's going to go to another country. Here are the first two things you should learn ahead of time. One, learn how to say you're beautiful to a woman if you're heterosexual.

Yeah. And predominantly, human beings are predominantly heterosexual. Yeah. And predominantly, human beings are predominantly heterosexual. So, sorry, actually I'm not, it just is what it is. It is what it is. These are facts. So, learn how to say you're beautiful to a woman. Second is, learn how to ask, where's the bathroom?

Now here's why that makes sense. If you don't tell a woman in another country she's beautiful, she won't, where's the bathroom? Now here's why that makes sense. If you don't tell a woman in another country she's beautiful, she won't tell you where the bathroom is. Thanks dude. Thank you for that. There you go. Well, Mr. Simmons.

Thanks, one more applause. Gene Simmons, ladies and gentlemen. Now here's my question, will you come back if we ask you? I already asked how much. That's what I'm talking about. We're gonna gather. Why don't we get a sponsored program? You go to Rain Energy Drink.

Yeah. Gonna have Gene Simmons on at so and so. You can talk a little bit about your product, how much? I love that. I like this idea. I like the idea. Yeah. Sponsored programming.

Love it. That's what we do. Love it. Well Gene, you're the best man. We appreciate you. Absolute best. Come back and do you have a long drive or do you live in Beverly Hills I imagine?

What do you have in mind? What do you have in mind? I gotta be in Utah, but I mean listen, I'll cancel my friend if I have to. By the way, do you know why all the chicks love Jesus? Why? Well he's hung like this. Oh my God. Oh my friend if I have to. By the way, do you know why all the chicks love Jesus? Why? Well, he's hung like this.

Oh my God. Oh my God. Ladies and gentlemen. I love it. We'll end on that. Terry, Terry's like, oh boy. Thank you. You gotta think about these things.

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