The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK Ep. 1083
Episode Date: April 24, 2025The guys talk Mike Catherwood's post about Bryan's weightlifting challenge and talk Nike's recent controversy, The Last of Us, Temptation Island, Shannon Sharpe's most recent controversy, cur...rent events around the world and much more.Stash - Go to https://get.stash.com/fighter to see how you can receive TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS towards your first stock purchase and to view important disclosures.Mando - As a special offer for listeners, new customers get $5 off a Starter Pack with our exclusive code: FighterDraftKings - Download the DraftKings Pick Six app NOW and use code FIGHTER.Cremo - You can find Cremo’s new line of antiperspirants and deodorants at Target or Target.comTrue Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/fighter ! #trueclassicpodJOYMODE - https://tryjoymode.com and enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% OFF your first order or 30% OFF your subscriptionMagic Mind - http://magicmind.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Yes, we did.
Because we back at it again.
It's the fighter and the kid.
This is really the fighter and the kid.
Come on, baby.
Nice shoes, dude.
What's up with your Bootsy boots?
Are those Danner boots?
I don't know who Jeffrey Dahmer is, but these are Brunt boots.
They're what?
They're sponsor of the show, Brunt.
Brunt?
Dude, they sent them.
I've had them for a while.
You would love them because the inside is so comfortable
They feel like my Jordans. They're a sponsor. Yeah, where's my spare?
They they don't you affect them their sales. What do you mean? I'm
Because they go we you can only wear these boots if you bench over 225 dude. I bench man
Do bring up the thing our boy Catherine wouldar Wood just posted. I tried to repost him by thinking it's him.
He was supposed to work out with me the other day in Austin.
You ever worked out with Mike?
He's a beast.
That guy's strong.
Mike's a savage.
He's a savage, right?
Yeah, savage.
Savage.
He looks like-
You know how he used to be addicted to like meth and stuff and chicks?
He's addicted now to extra-
Now he's addicted to weights.
Oh, he is.
And he's been sober, I don't know, 30 plus years.
So homeboy strong. Mike? Yeah. Oh, dude, you're in for a root. Oh, he is. And he's been sober, I don't know, 30 plus years. So homeboy strong.
Mike?
Yeah.
Oh dude, you're in for a root.
Yeah, Mike's a f-
I'm in for a root awakening.
He's a shaved chimpanzee.
Yeah.
Well, I've got a lot of those guys.
You think that body just came out of nowhere?
Yeah, I'm around a lot of those guys.
Yeah, play this.
As approximately 1.3 Americans can bench 225.
So it says one out of 100 guys can do it.
I can do 145 like this is one out of a hundred guys can do it I can do
145 like I did that 15 times I would fucking hope so yeah but I can do that
one third time so I think I could do 2225 and by the way I can't do it 15
times I don't know if that's true no I'm gonna do a 10 no I could buy the ones
that's not a big deal it's just not it is a big deal because I'm gonna do it now.
I don't want to take sides.
But first off, Shob's a fucking freak.
He puts up videos of him just...
I comment, you know what I'm talking about Brendan.
I fucking DM you the other day.
Shob's freakishly strong.
But Brian is, and I can't believe I'm saying this is very gifted genetically
we need any moves really well he's actually pretty strong I like my money
on right yes to 25 Mike that's my boat but then let's go look I will help you
so my thing is to him and I might have been talking DMs Mike well we got to put
a cap on it like is this a two-year project no I do it I'll been talking to DMs, I'm like, well, we gotta put a cap on it. Like, is this a two-year project?
No, I do it, I'll do it.
I'm getting weaker, not stronger as I get older.
I know.
So I gotta get to work.
Like now.
So what we'll get.
Like, leave the podcast right now and start benching.
Yeah, so daddy's gonna go with,
I'm gonna get on that straight bar.
Once I figure it out, I'll do, we'll start with 180.
I'll bang that out.
185, dude.
185.
That's how I know I don't bench. 185, I'll bang that out 185 do
Bang that out bang that out. I've been using just dumbbells. We'll bang that out and we'll work up to it
Everybody calm down. Yeah, Mike can definitely help you knows that he knows his shit. He can help you Yeah, but I need a tiny a lot. It's actually I'll do for me
You could do it. We'll see
We'll see you could do it. We'll see. We'll see. You could do it.
I don't know.
Now I'm a little nervous because it's-
But even when you're like, I knew 135 for 15.
For 15, like, I can't do 15.
Yeah.
No, I've done it like 11 recently.
Close.
And if you're pushing, right?
Well, that's like on Rogan, I told him he goes how many times you do 25 to 25?
And the most I've ever done is 40 so many times. It's so many times
Oh, yeah, I actually saw you do but not to interrupt you but I did see with my own eyes you do
I think you did 32 pull-ups. Yeah, I did and you're a big guy and you hit him and you they weren't kipping
No, yeah, so then I did a two 25 this morning, 34 times.
So I'm six off from my ultimate goal.
How many times?
36, but I got, I, that, I just got to get this by setback, uh, one hundo, one hundo.
And I think the four I can crank out.
That's a lot of, so you did it 34 times.
30.
I'm sorry.
36.
You did 36. I'm four, 36. You did 36.
36, I'm four off.
You did 36 times.
36 this morning, I'm four off.
That is a lot of weight.
I know.
I mean, that's pretty amazing.
And when I said four down Rogan,
I was like, I don't know about right now.
Like, what if Rogan was like,
oh, do I get a gym in the back?
No, no, you can do it.
I can do it.
Nothing is fair.
But, yeah. It's fair. You're, you you can do it. I can do it. But yeah.
It's fair.
In that exact moment, 35, I should have said 35.
You are a freak.
You're very strong.
I knew you were very strong.
And I don't like, but that thing,
because I've worked out with bodybuilders,
people that you think are jacked,
and they're not very strong.
There's a difference between being bodybuilding, like big, and they're not very strong. But yeah, there's a difference between being bodybuilding like big
and then being straight up strong.
There's a few guys that have both, but in general, like the body
builds I worked out with, aren't that strong man.
Yeah.
Not like an athlete.
It's just different because you're lifting for purpose and they're lifting for.
I will also say that a lot of bodybuilders who would come into
jujitsu back in the day, they didn't feel horrible.
No, they, they're strong. At first they get, they grab you. You're like, Oh, you're a little bit like, Oh damn, there's a lot of bodybuilders who would come into jiu-jitsu back in the day. They didn't feel horrible. No, they, they're strong.
At first they get, they grab you.
You're like, Oh, you're a little bit like, Oh damn, there's a lot of power there.
And then it goes so fast.
It goes so fast.
It's like if you're in a video game and you're using all your power and goes,
now there's goes, yeah.
Then a guy who works with, uh, construction with bricks and he's Mexican
and he's built like a square,
like just he looks like the letter H.
Well, I was just thinking about this the other day. There's a guy at the Grace Academy,
he was a bricklayer and he's a purple belt and he had a knee bar and I could get through it,
you name it, you would know these black belts. I could get through all of them and I would get
to him, I'm like, fuck, he's a purple belt and he's maybe two 20, but bricklayer and had a hell of a
kneebar with wrists, right? Oh bro. He would grab. It was like a C-lock.
And like, Jesus Christ. Oh yeah. And that's all he,
like his whole thing was kneebar. And I was just like, he was my,
I would like watch him out of my watch my no, he never got me
He got me the first time we went I learned to move but you had to you had to my old pees and cues
But you had to my pees and cues. Oh, no the whole thing. It was it. I wasn't fucking away
He's a purple belt. I was in fucking him up the whole time
It was me defending him getting a hold of my knee Wow
And if he got a hold of anyone's knee, he would be probably nebarred 15 guys before he got to me Wow
Really? Yeah, he's just just pull it across guys before he got to me. Wow. Really?
Yeah.
He just pulled it across his body.
Anything like you ask him to do a standard arm bar, you know, a plata, not his thing.
The knee, if he got his dick beaters on your leg, it was game over, dude.
I was thinking about him this morning, like, God, I wonder what he's doing.
Wow.
What are you doing?
That was a guy I remember in, at street sports.
And he had wrists that were this thick.
And that dude, I've never, and I'm not a strong guy,
but he was stronger than everybody by such a margin.
Yeah.
And it wasn't that he was a great athlete.
He just, you couldn't do anything with him.
He just built like that.
Yeah, built different.
Like, I'll post my 225, you know,
whatever is 27 times and 315, then 225, 20-something times 20 something times and be like I can't believe how strong you're like you don't look it
I'm like, well, how should I look you want me to look like fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Arnold was in bench in that he was jacked. I was fucking up the guy a stuntman Joe or Nas
Great guy. Let me let me show you so Ornaz, I met when I was doing Death
Valley and he was, he played this, that guy right there. Now he's a black belt
in in Judo I think, but I was young. I was young. I was like, I don't know, in my
late 30s or something, whatever, and I had to chase him because he was a zombie.
And he's probably 6'2", 220, just a really big kind of,
like, just not defined, but just big.
And I couldn't believe how fast the guy was.
I couldn't believe how much faster he was as a runner.
And then I had to do all these stunts
where I had to throw him over my back.
It was a lot, right?
It was, well, he was dense. Just so much stronger than and a lot right it was well he was dense just so much stronger than me he's dead yeah he's
just so much stronger just a different weight class it's just my kids are the same thing
too it's like if you grab boss here especially if you grab tiger you go to lift him like
what the fuck he's just so dense dude he so dense. I have what's called bird bones.
Yeah, you build like a bird.
You're for flying.
I'm made for flying.
If there's a war, you gotta fly.
When the big dogs show up, I go.
You fly.
You hear this.
You hear this.
You hear this.
And then I get up on the tree and I'm like,
hey guys.
Yeah.
Be safe down there.
That's what a guy told me.
He goes, dude, you're not a bear, you're not a dog,
you're a cat and it's fine. Just stay up on that wall. Cats a guy told me. He goes, dude, you're not a bear, you're not a dog, you're a cat, and it's fine.
Just stay up on that wall.
Cats are smart though, man.
Yeah, dude.
Dude, but these boots, I don't know if you've seen what's going on with Nike.
Comes out they were funding kids' transgender program.
Who?
So there's a big-
This company was-
Nike.
Nike.
Nike.
Came out, Nike is funding transgender kid experiments.
But they were also running ads.
Weren't they also running ads?
No, they weren't running ads.
Somebody else is running ads about it.
Yeah, because Nike had men in their bathing suits.
Of course, they went all woke, which is, I'm like, all right, whatever.
And funding children who are now all trying to de-transition.
Well, they were funding experiment on children with transgender medicine.
So Nike's been a big funder of that.
So I was like, you know what? Today's a good day to break out the brunt, right?
You're not going to see me wear Nike's.
Well, my thing, it's, and it's like Clay Travis did a whole rant on it. Yeah. I posted this.
A puberty blocker study. Love trait, Clay Travis.
Yeah. He's our boy. My thing is I'm fucking, I'm Mr. Nike. I got all the Travis Scott,
got all the joints.
What the, you're funding transgender kid programs?
You know how dangerous that is?
And then Tiger only wears Nike's?
The fuck am I gonna do?
What am I gonna do?
It's irreversible.
It's immoral.
So I gotta fucking go to New Balance now for Tiger?
I gotta order New Balance today?
It's practice tonight.
Utterly insidious, Nike would bankroll a long-term study
on pre-PBS athletes,
in fact, turning children into political. booth, Brian? I have not seen you in.
No, I saw this one.
I'm not wearing Nike today.
I can't wear Nike now if that's the case.
They better make it right.
They better better make it right the way the
Catholic church has to make their, what they did
did the kids right.
That's never happening.
They got to make it right.
Otherwise go fuck yourself.
I mean, it doesn't matter what you do.
You're not going to make it right.
You're going to make it right.
You're going to make it right.
You're going to make it right. You're going to make it right. You're going to make it right. You're going to make it right. You're going to make it right. You're kids right. That's never happening. They gotta make it right.
Otherwise, go fuck yourself.
I mean, it doesn't really affect you.
You don't really rock Nikes, but my whole family does.
But I was wearing my Nikes yesterday.
My grape kicks.
I like them.
Yeah.
I like the way they look,
but if I have to go somewhere else, I will, I promise.
Well, I gotta tell Tiger I can't wear Travis Scott's.
Wow. I'll just tell him, like, hey buddy, I gotta tell Tiger I can't wear it. It's Travis Scott's. Wow.
I'll just tell him like, Hey buddy, you see those
Nikes?
Well, that company, your friend Zach, they want
Zach to be a Maria.
That's why we're not wearing those.
And they're funding it.
Wow.
Hopefully that breaks down.
She said, Riley Gaines said that.
She goes, Riley Gaines was like, corporations
sick to making products, not picking culture
worse sides,
but with Nike, a company that's proudly shown
the disdain for America, women,
and now apparently children,
I won't hold my breath.
Fuck Nike.
You guys funded the most immoral thing I can think of.
I think we need to wait a little bit
until more facts come out, right?
You're right.
Right?
Thank you.
I get a little heated.
Get a little heated about this, this transgender.
We gotta wait.
We gotta wait.
This gender-affirming care for children.
I'm not gonna burn all of them yet.
Yeah.
It was like the whole Bud Light thing with the Mulvaney.
Did you see what this woman who testified
in front of Congress,
what she was talking about,
what was really going on at these children's hospitals,
where they were, they were doing surgery.
They were putting these children on cross-sex hormones.
That was irreversible.
You've got a whole generation of children who are trying to now go back and they
can't, it is disgusting.
Those parents should be in prison.
It is.
So should the doctors, everybody all pushes.
And so should the ideologues that push this stuff, their colleges,
makes me feel sick.
Don't put me in charge. It'd be a bad day for them. It'd be a bad day for them. Trust me. I're colleges. College public. Makes me feel sick.
Don't put me in charge.
It'd be a bad day for them.
It'd be a bad day for them.
Trust me.
I don't fuck with it.
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Can your boo guy, you like my boots?
When I say the, when I say, when I say the inside's comfortable, bro,
you said you're going to give me a pair or you're going to find out brunts.
I need a pair. I run 12, 13. So yeah, don't send Brian a pair you been 25 10 and a half I'll bench I'm gonna do the bench in those Brons
That's what I'm gonna do weird, but I'm gonna do that
Oh, you know, you don't really watch TV, but the last of us episode 2. Can I be honest with you?
You know what? I'm into guys
Yep, I am into guys, but also please don't't be something. I get it now. Please don't be
something. No, I watched temptation Island the last season and I will say that those shows like,
they were blind. Yeah. I watch all that. Well, what's good about it. It's called a waste of time,
but it also does kind of highlight relationships and the dynamics and how that works. Like when
couples go to, have you seen Temptation Island?
Yeah, but yeah, those are younger kids, you know?
Yeah, they're like in their 20s.
What are you doing, what are you doing?
You're going there, you're engaged, are you?
And then they get the hottest people.
Yeah, but these, what are they supposed to do?
They gotta get their dicks wet.
And then it's like, oh, it didn't work out?
Oh, cause you have a 10, he's trying to suck you off?
Some dude is like, these two girls are like,
we're gonna break them, they just show up.
Yeah, love is blind is better because
these are actually that at least in the thirties, they,
I know. And they were, and they're looking for love so
bad. And they're like, I've been, you know, I have a bad
picker, so I'm going to go base off personality. But then,
you know, we're physical creatures, men and women.
So you have a, you have a type. So when a tall girl who's athletic, who's gorgeous,
who worked in the NFL picks the small guy
because of his personality, oh, and it doesn't work out yet
because that's not your person.
I'll see this wonderful connection,
but I'm looking at the girl or whatever,
and I'm like, or the guy, and I'm like,
that's not gonna work out.
That's why I watch it, though.
I watch it for the honeymoon phase and and begin when they can't see each other
You like to reveal and then the disaster after that's why I watch it. Okay, that's all you know
I watch it for about four episodes and I'm like I check out and like I'm out but dude
I can't spoil it cuz I just watch it last night but season two of
Last of us is some of the best TV you'll ever see.
Is that right?
One of the main characters dies.
I don't think I'm going to continue to watch it because the show is a little woke.
Like they have the little girl arm barring this grown man and like beating him up in
the beginning.
The girl who kills the main character, it's just like, all right, I got it, man.
They check all boxes.
One of the main characters in a wheelchair,
blackjack with a head shave. I got a friend who will remain in him as big, big director and was going to direct a very big franchise, tent pole franchise. And one of the people was
in a wheelchair and they said, you can't make the person in the wheelchair kind of like weak or
needing help. And my friend was like, but they do need help.
They're in a wheelchair and they're not empowered
and they're not empowered.
This sucks.
And that's how it is in real life.
Yeah, no, we can't have anybody's handicap
not look heroic and stuff.
And that's why good directors go, I'm out.
Yeah, that's all gone away now.
Because those good directors know the audience is gonna smell that and they're like, I'm out. Try doing that's all gone away now. Because those good directors know the audience is gonna smell that.
Try doing that to James Gunn now, see what happens to you.
I know.
Try doing that to those guys.
But even in this show, The Last of Us, the one in the wheelchair, I look at my wife,
I look at Joey, I go, hold on.
So barely any civilization survives the zombie apocalypse.
The lady and the lesbian in the wheelchair survived?
So all these bad ass like special forces guys got taken out.
The girl confused about her pronouns in the wheelchair survived?
In what fucking world?
Who's playing that part?
And Joe looks at me and goes, babe, babe, there's zombies in it.
There's zombies. It's not real.
You know, that's a good point there, right?
It's not though.
All right, I can live in that world.
I've already escaped the reality of the living world.
All these bad asses die and then the one, the weakest person in the wheelchair survived?
All right, check please.
I'm out.
Then you kill the main character?
Fuck you.
She's cute.
Is she actually in a wheelchair?
I think so.
Unless she's just sitting down in that picture.
She might be in a wheelchair.
First actress to authentically play.
Oh, she was in Wicked in a wheelchair flying around?
She had it at 11 years old.
Oh, so she really is.
Yeah.
Wow. At 11 years old she was in a really is Yeah, wow at 11 years old. She was no wheelchair fuck
Good for her killing it. I'm just saying zombie apocalypse first one getting eaten is the girl in the wheelchair
And these aren't slow fucking zombies, dude
They're not fuck no they are they on so you're on horseback and they can this is worth saying this is worth last of us
Oh, buddy, it's from the video again it's fantastic all right i'm in it's getting a little woke and they kind of fucked it up
and the fucking hero just died so i'm like i'm not gonna watch anymore i guess i'll just watch
reruns of fucking true blood for the 70th fucking time wow wow how about Milan? The draft, the draft is, uh, this comes up.
There's still the drafts today, tonight.
Really?
I know you don't give a fuck, but just tonight.
I don't follow college football.
Well, the big thing, right?
I'm going to see you buff.
So sure.
Or Sanders and Travis Hunter supposed to be top five.
Yeah.
On son, Dion son, but their quarterback.
Yes.
Baller.
But the, the, there was a scout who came out and said, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, be top five son deon son but their quarterback yes baller but the
there was a scout who came out and said he had the worst interview because he's super arrogant
he they don't think he's a leader well the anafell will yeah but they do this before
it's also he's taking a lot of flack because he's Dion son. So this stuff starts coming out around the draft Yeah, but the Giants the real deal this kid
Yeah, he's good
Yeah, he's good. Let's go this cam ward, but he's fucking good and Travis hunters
Generational player somebody needs a draft fucking traps. He's that good. Yeah defense and offense. He's amazing
Dude, there's a tight end from LSU. Check this out. His dad is Jason Taylor.
Hall of Famer, right?
You know Jason Taylor.
I know Jason Taylor.
His uncle is Zach Thomas.
Hall of Famer linebacker.
Bring that kid up.
Talk about those genetics.
Mason Taylor?
Yep.
Bring that kid up.
His dad's Jason Taylor.
I mean, that's-
Mason Taylor is a tight end from LSU.
He's a freak.
Right there?
Yep.
A tight end. HomeSU. He's a freak. Right there? Yeah. A tight end.
Homeboy's a big kid.
He looks just like his dad, but way wider.
Maybe wider.
Little wider.
My Lord.
All right.
He's not projected for first round though.
Where they got him at?
All time leading receiver from LSU, tight end.
I'll take him.
That's a big boy.
He's at least second round, yeah?
Second round.
Fourth round.
That's a big boy.
Yeah.
Best tight end in the drafts kid from Penn State.
There's some good tight ends this year.
Some great tight ends.
Tight ends need to be able to block and catch.
It depends what, what I've been sharing.
It helps. If you like, there's such a threat because you want big guys that can
catch and just shuck off.
It's kind of changed like that.
Jason Whitten, like the big slow guy who can block and get reliable hands.
It's changed into like, you know, like the fast guy fits in with the
offense.
Basically a third receiver.
Think of George Kittle.
George Kittle from black, George, George Kittle's a beast.
He's a dog.
Yeah.
Most of them are, most of them are soft.
Still about 240.
Still a big boy.
Yeah, but he's a blocking titan.
But he can block his ass off.
Like Travis Kelce can't block, really.
No.
Really?
No. Yeah, Kittle's a...
He's a dog.
Just a freak too.
He's a dog.
Yeah.
So, Brendan, most of these mock drafts do have Cam Ward going first to Tennessee.
Yeah.
But from what I read, it's like a pretty quarterback draft this year, you know, last year.
They think only two are going to go in the draft.
They say if Chidor drops, only one.
Cam Ward's the for sure...
Yeah.
What do you mean one?
Only one quarterback, which is wild. From sure. Yeah. What do you mean one?
Only one quarterback, which is wild.
From college?
Yeah.
Getting in the NFL?
Yeah, Darden from Ole Miss is good.
The next one is Sanders from Colorado.
Yep.
Pittsburgh is the one who's projected to hit.
Giants.
Oh, this one.
He's supposed to go third to the Giants
and then Travis Hunter's supposed to go
either before him or after him.
All these mocks say that Abdul Carter from Penn State's
going third to the Giants.
Yeah, we'll see.
They need a quarterback.
They do, amongst a lot of things.
Let's see, I love the drop though.
You don't like the current QB?
For the Giants? Yeah. Who is it. I love the current QB for the giants.
Yeah.
Uh, who is it now? Cause they got rid of Russell Wilson.
Oh no, that ain't the answer.
That's a bandaid over a big, bigger problem.
Yeah.
We'll get it done for a year.
And Jamis Winston's a backup and Tommy DeVito.
So yeah, they need a real franchise quarterback.
Yep.
It's gonna be Chidor.
I hope. I love the draft.. It's going to be Shador. I hope.
I love the draft.
Brian, you got to get into it.
I watch all of it.
I have to watch, uh, there's just so much I have time for.
It's really cool seeing people's lives change in that one minute though.
You watch temptation Island though.
You got time, right?
Don't I go on so I'm so busy.
I'm reading books, bitch.
You watch temptation Island.
Why you just went on a whole rant
Temptation island you got time. Hey, you get time. Take a break from going to dinners. You got time, right?
I'm a good time. You could watch the draft at least watch the first two rounds
Yeah, I just put it on have context for yeah, it's true. They give you some kind
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Dude, my friend said to me, I was listening to the political podcast and he goes, are
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I was like, oh, that's...
Yeah, it's all blows in the wind.
Other things worth... I was like, yeah, but then he goes, yeah, and then this two will pass.
Yeah, what do you know? Yeah, yeah, I get it.
So fucking, I get it. Rogan posted this thing. It was interesting. I sent to the group chat to you and, uh, I don't know if Rogan had this guy in his pod, but God, he breaks down like cell phones and medications and the younger generation,
what traps they're in.
Boy, they're sitting at home on their phones, not drinking, not going out, not
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Watch this.
Is this the one?
Yep.
Oh, I know this guy.
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You walked in here?
Magic mind max thingy.
I'm obsessed with magic mind max.
I had breakfast with the founder this morning
and I said to him, I go, dude, this is a game changer.
It's gonna change everything.
They're coming out with another product,
but this, and I said to him, don't change.
And if you're gonna come out with a can and a drink it's got to have the same amount of
caffeine I don't know what they're gonna do but this time-released caffeine and
this other stuff for me had me awesome all day there's no spike there's no
spike so you can talk about magic mind you can talk about magic mind free I'm
a max guy all right I'm a Max guy, alright?
I'm gonna be straight up with you guys.
There's a good chance I won't do Magic Mind free or Magic Mind original.
I'm only doing Max.
Maybe I'll do Magic Mind like regular in the afternoon, but I'm doing Max.
I'm obsessed with the old Max.
You done it?
Yeah.
Microphone?
Yeah. You might need two. I've already taken my second one. It's a nano
time. Yeah. I don't know. They messed up sending this max. I know. I'm never. Why would I use
regular? I know. That's like my car runs on 85 and once on 80, I said I thought 1025 horsepower.
Yeah. I use regular 91 gas. It's 900., why would I ever use I had breakfast James and I said dude you you fucked up this max is too good
Yeah, it's like so Tylenol when they came out extra strength Tylenol
Why would I go with Tylenol when I get extra strength?
It's that's a little different because you can take like just more time. Yeah, but this is this is an all-natural thing the sleep shot
We were talking about, it's got magnesium glyconate in chamomile. It'll put you down.
It'll put you down.
Make you feel good, wake up refreshed.
It's not addictive.
Remember, it's not a narcotic, so I'm all about it.
Me too, buddy.
I want another Magic Mind Max.
I just kind of want to take two now, and know I'm being a baby but see what the equivalent of
200 or see what the equivalent of 330 milligrams of time-release caffeine is
It says it's about the same amount of caffeine as a regular cup of coffee. I can have two cups of coffee
Two cups is minimum, dude. I know I know know it is. What was that question, Brian? I'm a caffeine guy. The equivalent of 300 milligrams?
How much caffeine is in two cups of coffee?
You ever take in too much caffeine, though?
I have.
Piss out your butt.
Yep, and I took, when I was in high school,
I took a caffeine pill.
One cups, 190?
Two.
Two, yeah, so it's...
Try it.
There you go.
I imagine mine's like 165 for the max.
Oh, damn, so that's four cups of coffee.
Might be a little much.
Well no, it's not four cups,
because Max is how much caffeine, Jen?
Let me go back to it here.
Max is 165.
How much, so it's not even two cups?
190.
So you get the same Kevin, just,
and it cooled off, and I'm like,
I'm not gonna finish it.
Yeah.
But it has a bunch of other stuff in there too though,
right?
Bunch of other health benefits.
Yeah, adaptogens and nitropics. Yeah, I'll never use anything else what max this is this is exactly right and I happen to think how crazy
I think what do you do? So I'll tell you what so long
Let's so let's say, you know
I'll hear Rogan says like, you know
You don't you don't want to take the cell phone away from the kid cuz then they're behind
You know like they have to learn to use it in this day and age
I'm like, I don't know if that's the answer.
So I know, I know a family that has no cell phones, they're homeschooled and the greatest
kids ever. My thing is this, and they're not behind, they're educated. They know how to
think, they know how to connect. And you just want to be around them. So I would say this,
I really believe that we are going to look at phones and all the social media stuff.
It's going to take us a little while. And what we're going to realize is it is more
dangerous than cocaine, more dentistry, anything.
And so what happens then is we go, we're as a group,
we're just going to form groups.
You and I are already in one.
Sort of like, I'm not giving my kid that stuff.
I'm not letting my kids like, I can get my three-year-old
to scroll.
And my wife is like, don't you scroll near that kid.
No, no.
And you can't do that
You also don't want your son to see you on the phone like no no
And they do see me on my phone come like I'm setting. Yeah, no, it's not good. No, no, and the problem is
You you just you just cannot my kids are trying to connect with me the other day and I was I had I was setting up
Some stuff I'm trying to do this business thing and I'm doing this
me the other day and I was, I had, I was setting up some stuff. I'm trying to do this business thing and I'm doing this.
Yeah, probably on Instagram. That's fine.
No, I was, I was like, but I was, but when I say you probably on Instagram, you are in
soul. My like, there's nothing. I'm on something. I'm on something. My issue is the most disciplined
people I know. I'm talking to savages, multimillionaires. I went as soon as we get done with a podcast
working out, they go straight to the phone. I'm like, fuck, we're fucked, man.
This is it.
Cause if it's, if it's got, if it's got its hooks in you, a 13 year old, 14 year old stands
no fucking chance.
So to your point with the parents, so when the kids on Tiger's baseball team, we get
the phone and you know, they're, they're all close.
They hang out every day and I text a group.
I went, Hey, I'm just gonna say this now,
that kid isn't allowed at the house now.
Love him to death, he's the best kid ever.
I said, he's not allowed at the house.
Well, I thought we all agreed,
we would wait to get the kids' phones.
Because the problem is if one gets it,
all of them want it.
So we're either, you're either out or you're in.
Now if you want want to have that phone
That's fine, but you can't be at my house
So my friends the Hamilton's they they're they're 17 year old or he's 17 and I was like, yeah, they're on the phone
She goes no, he's not he's not a lot on his phone. He's not allowed to have a phone right now
He'll get a phone when I'm around if it's something very specific
But he's not out there with his phone my kids wear Apple watches just so they can only text us and we can track them at all times.
Yeah. Well, of course. But I'm saying that we are under the illusion that we need these phones and
worse that our kids need these phones.
No, we've been duped.
We've been duped.
We've been duped.
We've been duped.
It's bullshit.
No, my kids lost their iPads early on. When I saw saw how their attitudes were changing, like there's no iPads ever.
Never cause they get addicted to it.
And it's just not a way you want to spend your time.
There's no benefits.
A hundred percent.
And you're going to see more and more of this.
I'm telling you again, I think we're seeing less.
I think I'm saying, I'm saying you're going to, you're going to see
we're going to, we're going to realize, and I'm really being serious that this is worse than if your kid was doing blow and
drinking at the same time.
Mark Zuckerberg and Steve jobs.
Like I'd never get my kids this stuff.
You go, cause they know how it works.
Created it.
They're like, I would never.
Yeah.
Cause they, they know.
And, and I'm sure these people it's called, they,
there are classes you can take, you can major in
persuasion technology at Stanford. They got it down. And when it goes to drugs and stuff,
like it's never been easier to get drugs. It's at the touch of a dial. That's right. It's easy. And
if it's not touch of a dial, if you're getting like recreational drugs, you can get other drugs.
This is what my whole special is about, false gods. Dopamine, dopamine, dopamine, dopamine.
That's what we are. We're a nation of drug addicts.
We're all bent over our phones in prayer, you know?
And so it's the whole theme of my special.
It's like when I see people at concerts,
especially Coachella, these crazy concerts,
whatever, whoever it is, these big Bruno Mars,
Travis Scott, Billie Eilish, you see these major concerts
and everyone has their phone out, I'm like,
who are you filtering? Enjoy the fucking- Right, you see these major concerts and everyone has their phone out. I'm like, who are you filming?
Enjoy the fucking generational talent in front of you.
Why are you filming?
Who's this for?
Right.
So you can let all your followers know
you're at the Beyonce concert?
You're missing it.
You're missing the whole point.
You paid thousands of dollars to sit in that seat
and now you're watching it through a screen
so you can validate to your friends that you were there.
You might as well stay home.
It's true.
Might as well stay home.
It's really true.
And we are good.
So some artists actually have like a no phone policy.
We've seen with comedians,
they lock your phones up and stuff.
Do that in the mothership. Right.
That still protects comedians from people posting new bits and stuff.
But then with musicians, like I've worked with Maynard Keenan, who's in Tool, you know,
a lot of, and a couple other bands.
I know him.
Yeah. He has a strict no phone policy where he'll say it at the beginning of the concert.
If I see a light, we will have you escorted out. And I've been there and I've seen his security guys,
this huge dude.
People still do it.
Yeah, they take him out.
You just get kicked out and they're like,
we have nothing to say to you.
Because people can't help it.
Oh, that's it.
The people can't help, you know,
they're like, that's not that big of a deal.
No, it is a big deal.
No, it's a big deal.
I had to go to like the suites in the Honda Center
when I was working and like check people's phones.
It was so bad.
You just can't do it.
He's like, just enjoy the moment.
Put your fucking phone down and, and connect.
Nothing drives you more nuts.
Like when I was in Santa Barbara, I went to this steakhouse with the boys.
Uh, rear society, a great steakhouse.
I hit, I go look at the family.
They're all like this on their phones.
Are you want to have dinner with empty?
Go out there with them.
Let me know how fun it is.
There's just no one's talking to each other.
They're just with the food comes.
They barely look at each other. They're wait the food comes. They barely look at each other.
They're all on their phones.
Yep.
Yep.
It's kind of amazing.
It's definitely easier.
Like if you have little kids, toddlers and stuff, you know, easiest to go to a restaurant
and hand them an iPad.
Oh yeah.
Again, it's tough to get.
It's tough to be an iPad is when we're on the plane on the plane and that's when we
use it on the plane.
Watch something. Otherwise it gets crazy
But yeah, no no no no
Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah. I don't yeah to this point
I don't think humans are meant to receive all this info all the time 24-7 breaking news around the world
Well, just and it's also the way they've set up the algorithm. It's negative news.
It's never anything. It's all the worst of the worst from all over the world. Like the,
the terror shootings in India, they take out 20 people on a mountain and it's just, it's not even,
it's really not even news. It was even on the ticker at the bottom of your news. I know.
It was just like, Oh, and then you can 20 innocent people were shot in the fucking head. I know like what that's barely news.
It's you can see this kind of stuff. It's just like it's, it's um,
we come desensitized to it. Yeah, but you can't even dig, but you think you've
been desensitized. No, you are. Cause cause the stuff you watch on TV,
you still pay a price. Your brain goes and starts to rot.
You know, um, I don't know. I don't know. This guy, so 51% of men, young, young men have never approached a woman in person to ask them out. 51%. I said, check out when I was
that Scott Galloway is on Gavin Newsom's podcast and that's what he said. And. 51%.
51%.
Now think about this.
So what are they doing?
They're either, the good looking ones and it's
very disproportionate, they get all the girls on
the social media apps, all of them.
Of course.
The rest of them don't, they don't get to swipe.
They get incels.
Then, so the incels are in there or just the
regular guys are actually just whacking off to
whatever point they want.
I get it.
And then when they're not doing that, what else are they doing?
They're not putting on a suit and a tie to go to work.
They're trading crypto and stuff, which always ends up in a disaster.
You're not going to make your money because it's gambling.
So now you're doing porn, you're doing crypto, you're in these little chat groups, and it
is so bad for you men.
And we're just isolated.
Men are isolated, young men.
It's not good.
No, really bad.
Now the one thing, the one contribution, I think Rogan will go down in as, as somebody
who's contributed to exercise and getting
yourself healthy, taking responsibility,
getting good at something.
But if you don't do that, you're going to,
you're going to be fucked.
You know, there's, I'll give you one more story about this.
So there's this guy who's a billionaire.
He says a buddy, I'm gonna freak out.
No, no, I think he had five kids.
And one of the kids went to the military
and got into some of the elite stuff.
And he is crushing it,
because he knew that those billions of dollars
were going to fuck him.
This is like Eric Prince, same thing.
But it's like, he knew that all that comfort
and all that certainty was not something
that he was going to be able to resist.
How do you think the other four kids are doing?
Addicted to drugs, pray not doing shit.
Right, right.
You just can't't the phone has
become so even comic comedy club owners will tell you that young people aren't
going out because they just get to sit home why it's too much stimulation there's
this there's no motivation and then they're not meeting girls because where
do you when you're young where do you meet girls we go out it's another group
of girls.
Well also, I want to get your take on this.
Tyler Fisher, really funny comic.
I don't know him well, I've met him a couple times.
Great guy from what I've heard from everybody.
I don't know who he is, bring him up too.
Okay, Tyler Fisher.
Funny as shit, he's out the mothership all the time.
Funny, he was always on Fox, he was on Gutfeld
and stuff like that.
Little guy, really short.
He's the guy who sued because they said you're white.
Oh, that's right.
But he's a badass, and he's funny as hell
and everything else.
He was at Fox and Friends, and there was this receptionist
or this girl that was there, and they would talk
and be friendly, and one day he just came up and said,
you wanna get coffee?
She's still in or something?
And she complained about him
and said she was being harassed.
Wow.
And he got, they no longer, right.
They kind of fired him.
You're in Guadfields?
And yeah, they were like, well,
because they dealt with their own thing.
And I was like, that is, and he was like,
so we're in a time where I can ask somebody politely out for coffee. And you, you complain to human health
and whatever to human resources or whatever. And I can't, I can't come into the building
anymore. Wow. Wow. Like, and that girl who did that, like, how do you think that serves
you or men or women in general?
Do you think about Shannon Sharpe? So what's going on? She's disgusting that Tony Busby scumbag. Yeah. Well, that's the lawyer represent
Yeah, I got Jane Doe. Whatever in my opinion. He's a scumbag. That's my opinion. He's a scumbag. Everyone knows that
Yeah, but everyone's a when you call listen I defamation to have opinion. Yeah, I'm saying that's my opinion
He seems like a real bad guy.
But he's, so Shannon Sharp, yeah.
So they were in a conceptual relationship,
you know, just some whatever side piece
or just some tail piece.
He's, it's a little, you know, she's whatever, 22,
he's damn near 50, whatever,
Shannon Sharp's a good looking dude,
there's no crime there.
So he's hooking up with this OnlyFans girl.
Clearly, they're in a relationship for over two years.
And then she recro records the conversation.
It's like that we've played these games is how it goes, man.
Oh my God.
It just ride around when Shannon's offered a hundred million dollars for his
podcast.
And they want a $50 million from them. They're trying to extort him.
I hope he's getting a lot of support
Yeah, I think that whole trains over
So new audio got released of the conversation on the phone. I heard it. It sounds really weird, doesn't it?
No, it sounds like it sounds fake. If you know, no, it sounds like he he's like you said one more time
I choked the shit out of you. Yeah, and like you have many record our conversation. I'm like dude suck my dick Brennan's gay
Yeah, he believe you told Brian to suck his dick. It's like that and by the way, she was also
They were clearly into some stuff here. Yeah, can we know?
It really bothers me
Yes Well, you're coming to LA tomorrow?
Yes.
She's a scumbag.
Well, I don't know why you want to go out.
Don't worry about it, Daddy. Well, okay.
And why would she record the conversation?
Why would she record it?
She's trying to...
It's right here.
Well, I'm not really interested in getting choked, so I guess we're going.
Yeah, I might choke you in public.
This is all like, like sexual.
Yeah, I got your small white woman.
He's clearly joking.
Yeah, obviously.
It's not a good look, Shannon.
Not a good look, bitch.
You did what the shit you did to me.
Yeah, she violated this trust after two years.
Okay, well...
Just a money play.
You know what? Apparently they didn't release a money play.
Apparently they released a sex statement.
He goes, I only released 30 minutes, probably him being, you know, rough with her.
He's like, if I had the whole, release the whole thing.
Because you're taking out context.
Annoying human being in the world.
She's an OnlyFans girl.
Hey Shannon, she's 22, bud.
Oh, she's that much younger.
She's young. I can't stand her young. I well is he married no, okay
No, so you have a big dick around big black dick. Yeah
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But then Shannon goes, cool, here's the text.
And she's like, I can't wait to have your black baby.
Can't wait to have that big black dick in me.
It's like, she knows the game she's playing.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
And so does Shannon, but it's like.
It's a thing, they clearly, you know what I get from that?
They play a lot of sexual games and role play,
that's what happens.
Yeah, right?
It is what I get, and that's what everybody gets.
Most people know, but most normal humans know that.
So he's being accused of rape.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, she said twice in the two year relationship.
Wow, that's so fucked up.
Just shut up.
So annoying.
Fucking with snow bunnies.
Yeah, she's...
All right, so what happens now?
That's why it's good thing he has his own podcast and I'm sure his fans will rally around him
We'll see what ESPN does
He's fucking yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a freak dude, we'll see what ESPN does usually they don't do shit
If it now if it was an athlete they go hard in the paint on them But if it's one of their
You know anchors on shows pass
Yeah, I think so, especially this day and age now three years ago four years ago
He's fired before any of this even comes out. That's right
That's exactly right
That's I think times are changing where people go I've seen this before
It really bothers me and
It bothers me if he if he lost his job
Yeah, yeah, but chicken heads are gonna chicken head you fuck with a chicken head
She has to eat with the chicken eggs chicken heads gotta eat. Yeah, she's dumbass. Yeah, she's a chicken head
Yeah And it's starting to turn right now like the last year year and a half or so it's starting to turn around bro
Four years ago. He'd been fired before I know this even you know, it's a more information comes out people start realizing
You just watch what happens you just watch what happens with that Blake Lively Ryan Reynolds shit
Yeah, those two those two I think it's already happened like no one respects Blake Lively. Oh, she's sock Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Our boy told us for a while Ryan Reynolds sucks, huh? Our boy told us for a hot second Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, you yeah, I've heard a lot of he's like dude. He's the worst
Yeah, just a mercenary but also like just so immoral like you're gonna take a guy like Justin Baldo
I'm not a fan of I don't give a fuck but you you you tried to murder him
You tried to destroy him so you could take control of that movie. That's what you fucking did you liar?
It's great. You weren't being sexually harassed you fucking liar
No, but all this stuff is good when I see this when I go good chance our stuff
I'm like, oh good as long as they're not, you know, actually scumbags when they fight back
I go. Thank god. Here we go
Well, it helps and hopefully ESPN has some fucking nads and they don't even if they did so it was hopefully he doesn't lose
Job the ESPN even he did he's fine. He's he's gonna get a hundred million dollars up for his podcast Brian
Okay, but hundred mill from here. That's what it's worth. That's what he got offered by a she's huge
From who? From Mill.
From who?
That's what it's worth.
That's what he got offered.
By who?
Shayshae's huge.
Spotify or somebody.
Great.
He's huge.
As long as that doesn't get fucked with.
No, his own podcast that he owns outright
is way bigger than anything he does on ESPN.
Way bigger.
So as long as he doesn't get messed with,
I want him to have that money.
We support Shannon Sharp.
Yep. People suck.
What else you got, Jen?
We just support the truth, right?
That's pretty much it.
We support the truth.
Yeah, that's it.
Good point, Jen.
Thank you.
That's a very important distinction.
You're right.
We support the truth.
Real quick on this guy, Naval Ravikant, who's been on Rogan before.
Yeah.
You know who he is?
He's an investor.
He's a big time.
Yeah, but incredibly like, you know, he is, he's an investor. He's a big, yeah, but incredibly like, you know,
spiritual smart.
So I remember one of the things he said that hit
me hard was like, uh, a healthy man wants
thousands of things, but a sick man wants just
one, one thing to be healthy.
And yeah, that was huge for me.
Yeah.
Are you still drinking gin?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Doesn't seem like age of too hard.
Hit me hard enough. Well what did Neville say? I said Confucius said a man, a man lives twice, you know.
A man lives twice. One when he, what, when he realizes he only lives once or something.
Oh, alright. When he's born, when he lives once.
That's terrible. Something like that. That's terrible.
A man lives twice when he's born and then when he starts living.
That's not good.
Wait, what was it?
I don't know.
What else you got to say?
It was on Rogan.
It was on Rogan.
It was like a mic drop moment.
It was good.
I'll look at it about his brother also,
Robbacon's, yeah, Naval's brother.
His name's Kamal, I think.
I bought his book.
It's called like Love Yourself,
Like Your Life Depended on It.
Have you heard about that book?
Yeah, I'm not a big thing.
I'm the love yourself thing. I'm gonna love yourself.
It's kind of like, it's obviously a self-help thing.
And I, and it was actually really, really good.
But it got to a point where they're asking, you know,
the reader to look in the mirror and say,
I love you for like five minutes.
And I just couldn't do it.
I couldn't do it.
Yeah. Cause you're not a cuck.
I don't, I don't do shit.
It might be helpful for me though.
I don't know.
You know what would be helpful, Chin?
Go to the gym and listen to weights. There you go. That's it. You don't need any books
I couldn't agree more. You don't need any fucking friends. I just go to the front. Come on
No, I can actually take action. All your friends are here. Your friends are at work
There's my boy right there
Here's a quick question between me and chin. Who do you think would be more athletic? Oh god, that's so easy
That's a good question. I Oh god, that's so easy.
That's a good question.
I don't think it's that easy.
You?
100%.
Oh, you really think so?
Yeah, 100%.
Well, it's not.
Did you just sports?
Shin's also 50.
I was a swimmer.
I'm not 50 yet, man.
Shin's 50.
I'm not 50 yet.
Might as well be.
How old are you, buddy?
I just barely turned 48.
You barely turned 48.
Last week.
Happy birthday.
Yeah, thanks, bro. Everyone on our chat. It's coming with you. The only one I do wish him happy birthday. Last week. Happy birthday. Yeah, thanks, Brian.
Everyone on our chat.
It's coming with you.
You're the only one that didn't wish him happy birthday.
I know, you're the only one.
Everyone else is like, happy birthday.
Look at the text, Brian.
I wasn't reading it.
Bad guy.
But I feel Brian's love every day.
Brian's the best.
I do too.
But I do too.
I got two other kids too.
It's all good.
You just missed it, dude.
You didn't even text me on my birthday.
I did too. Yes, I did. You were late. No, I texted you. I said missed it dude. You didn't take me on my birthday. I did too. No. Yes, I did you were late
No, I texted you I said happy birthday. Oh
Yeah, so anyway to swap kids come on
Who's more athletic you guys think I don't know what's what's the what's the competition?
You're not athletic chin. You just haven't done a lot of sports, right?
Yeah.
No, there's athletic and not athletic.
I would define athletic right now as do you communicate well with your body? So if you tell your body to do something, will it do something?
Right.
And that sometimes comes from practice and-
Oh, I don't.
Uh, Chin, did you play sports as a child?
Only for fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not actually like-
Yeah.
I'll take some odds. It depends what it is though. Uh, did you play sports as a child only for fun? Yeah. Yeah, not actually like
It depends what it is though
Yeah, no, we would play a sprint or what is let's have a number. Is there a basketball football hand-eye coordination? Let's start with that
Okay. Yeah, that would be one thing. Um
uh Exposive movements supposed movements. I feel agility
Uh agility, I take some eyes chins 50. I'm not movements. Agility. Agility.
I'd probably take Sinaz.
Chin's 50.
I'm not 50 yet, Bren.
It takes a while, man.
You're on the wrong side of 40.
Sinaz is younger.
She's healthy.
Yeah.
Probably Sinaz.
Sinaz, you work out every day.
Yeah.
Not every day.
No, no, no.
But you work out.
Yeah.
Four times a week.
Yeah.
I'll take some.
And Chin sits.
No, you're not in bad shape.
Chin.
Same as good. Chin could be. And feel like the weight. Chin's a great. And Jim sips. No, you're not in bad shape. Jim, but Jim. Jim is good.
Jim could be, if he looked away, Jim's a great.
Functioning alcoholic.
Very highly functioning.
Yeah, he is a highly functioning, highly efficient.
Alcoholic and kratomuser, which also means he's a drug addict.
Yes.
Let's be honest.
Yeah, I'll take Sinaz.
So we're gonna have to go with Sinaz.
Aw.
We should do like a little course.
We could do a sprint, yeah. Yeah, some sort of course.
Well, what was the last time you went to the doctor
and really got checked out?
Last time.
Oh, let me tell Donnie something.
Two months ago.
We good, Brian.
I do have some hard stuff going on.
You have some hard stuff?
Some hard stuff.
My resting heart rate is like 120.
It's bad.
Your resting heart rate is 120? Not It's bad. Your resting heart rate is 120.
Not all the time, but there's times there's chunks of periods of time when it
is. So that means this is not good. So don't they gave me some pills.
Yeah, that's really bad. Actually. I just chimed that.
Now it's gone down to 110, 109 with the pills, but that's still bad.
That's you also have high blood pressure? Yeah, that's part of it.
Yeah, Brian.
That's why when we go to Austin, that ways to well place, whatever.
Yeah.
You need to do that right away.
Right away.
You don't need to be on a bunch of exogenous hormones.
That's not going to help you.
Just stop.
Stop drinking and work out more.
It's going to help you.
You, you have, you, you're, your job is to move more, stop drinking, stop taking all the drugs.
All the drugs.
Or Kratom.
Yeah.
The drinking and the Kratom, I don't think is good for you.
Of course, I mean.
So what you need to do if you're serious is actually take your health more seriously,
which means exercise and stop doing that.
I exercise, Bri, but no, the drinking thing is 100% something I need to absolutely-
What do you mean you exercise? When?
At least three times a week on treadmill.
Okay, so you-
So I don't jog, mostly. I do fast walk on a-
You know his resting heart rate is 120 to 109?
Chances? Yeah.
That's terrible.
He's got high blood pressure. He's got a heart issue and this is not good.
You're gonna, it's very possible you could die. Listen, fire kids aren't going around
for a long time. You're getting older, Chin's dying. It is possible that we'll get a call.
This is what you, I want to avoid Chin. Oh no. Chin passed away in a sleep. Chin, your
resting heart rate's over 100? That happened. No, so that at the peak it was so we I would have to measure it every now and then
Yeah, just give me my doctor. Yeah, so it would be at 130. It would be at 130 one highest
That's so bad heard me at the lowest it would be 109 mine is 60. I
Know you're super healthy when I was fighting mine was 40
Yeah, you had the closest they came to it was Lance Armstrong
He'd Lance Armstrong beating him by two. My ex was 37. She's just check. Yeah. Yeah
Might as well be a lizard
Cold-blooded. Yeah, they their heart doesn't be this fast. Yeah. Yeah, don't ever come forward me, right?
Wait, whoa, I said 30 what's what is yours? This is a house mom
Wait, what are you my lizards do?
right
What are yours now? You don't have high blood pressure, right? No, not anymore
They said ever been in your family though in your genetic your genetics. So it's in my family though. Yeah, you're out there helping
Yeah, no shit. But I mean so as far as a boy stop drink go He, when I go to Austin, I'm going to go to Ways and Well. Yeah, Brennan said.
Stop drinking and exercise. Oh, Ways and Well won't help you. No, no. When they find out
how much you drink, they won't help you. No, that's why I'll stop or limits and then.
They're going to, but you're going to have to get on the men before you get there. Cause
if you go in, go, ah, but I do drink but I do drink something like oh, we're not giving me anything
They do all the blood and everything. Yeah
I'll do what I do
I mean 100's insane not a hundred right 130 at the highest
That's that is the worst I've ever heard. Yeah, you're flirting with real danger. I know that's why I went to the doctor
That's why they have got me two different pills flirting
What happened the doctor gave the doctor gave him pills, but he hasn't stopped his lifestyle and doctors won't help you
Lifestyle the one that you guys don't like the most is the alcohol which I completely understand
I need a kratom and alcohol as well
What else do you take?
I like that you're just stop drinking drinking 100% everyone knows the creative on your fuck. They just stop drinking for it
What else do you take that is as far as like a vice? Yeah, that's it
Just like just alcohol a few bombs from time to time
It's not an arc on a bar. It's not a bad argument be good. Yes, you have to research it more
But I'll call it like it research it. No, it's a narcotic. It's a bad argument. Be great. You have to research it more. It's the alcohol. I did research it.
It's a narcotic.
It's also addictive.
It can be addictive.
Yeah. Yeah.
But it's not a narcotic.
Use it every day.
But it hits the same receptors.
There's days I didn't use it.
There's days I do.
There's days I do it less.
There are opiate receptors, right?
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Current events.
Current events.
It's current events.
We have about 10 minutes.
We're at current events.
Current events.
Let's see this one first.
This one?
Yeah.
So, Haley Joel Osmond.
I'm sure everybody kind of knows him, remembers him from a bunch of other...
Oh, we covered this on Golden Hour.
Let me see this.
Oh, you already did this one?
Yeah.
Do you want to skip it or go through it?
What does he say?
Some bad words.
I don't want to say them.
But you can listen to them.
Let me just say it for shits and giggles.
What's going on?
I'm being detained by these guys.
He's hammered.
I am being detained by these guys. I am being detained by these guys. I am being detained it for shits and giggles. What's going on? I'm being detained by these guys. He's hammered.
I was trying to walk back to my...
Beyond intoxication, we were very nice and calm and...
I can just kind of tell you what he said.
Go for it.
Yeah, it's a long video.
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Go for it. Yeah, it's a long video.
Yeah, he says, I'm being kidnapped by a blank Nazi.
By a what Nazi? F.
F a Nazi? Yeah. A fucking Nazi?
And then, you're torturing me. I know who you are. I'll never forget.
And then, also came in with with you'll wish you treated me nicer
Yes, you will that's it
Um, I think there was it was more of his attitude as well
But he came forward immediately and was like I'm so apologetic for this. I always said is not
That's all he said. That's what this I thought he said a bunch of racial slurs. Yeah
I'm pretty sure he called him a
Yeah, no, okay word that he said the'm pretty sure he called him a Yeah, no, he's a word that
He said the K word we called him. Oh, yeah. I know that's in here too. The K word was thrown out. Yeah
Yeah, that's that's it. They get it. So he called that's a that one's bad. Okay
interesting
That's that's that's
That's not something you just use though from day to day.
That's something that's deep in your soul.
Also, I don't really care about that guy.
I mean, I guess he's drunk.
No, make fucking.
He doesn't look like he's not been.
But he came out and said sorry right away.
Sure, looks like he's been drinking a lot.
Yeah, whenever he.
Oh, the mob loves that.
I'm sure the wolf, yeah.
Oh no, he's fucked.
You're in Hollywood, you went against the Jews,
he's so fucked. Yeah. Yeah
Wasn't like his career was no he was on a bunch of shit. Really? Yeah, he's been a ton of shit
Okay, yeah ton of shit good actor then yeah a ton of stuff
Recently do you?
But yeah all that's over
You're anti-jewish in Hollywood. You're so screwed
Next one so Jake. Uh, next one.
So Jake Paul announced his next, uh, fight and it's with Julio C.
Yerger Chavez on June 28th.
What do we think about this matchup?
Uh, I like it.
I like it.
Um, he was a little listless.
He can, he can get listless.
Um, but he's big, he's schooled in boxing.
It just does nothing for me.
Yeah.
It is a challenge though.
It's a legit challenge, right?
He's probably, he's got his ass whooped by Anderson Silva.
Jake's already beat Anderson Silva.
So it's like, if he shows up for the fight, if he's really training, uh, he's,
he, he's fairly tough.
How old is he now?
Same age.
His thing's always been a discipline issue.
And if you have a discipline issue.
And if you have a discipline issue at 20, it doesn't get better when you're 40.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, not, not.
39.
Oh wow.
He's 40.
Oh wow.
See, I just feel like, can we have someone your own age?
like I
Don't know. I don't think that one's gonna get big numbers. It's just like all right
You see that you're like excited. It's a good. It's not a good next step
It's almost like he's going backwards, but wouldn't you say it's a good challenge for him? No, he's gonna beat him. Yes
No, it's not a good challenge cuz he already got his ass whacked by Anderson, you know?
10 round fight. It doesn't do much. I guess it keeps Jake active and it's a boxer. But the
boxer, you're still going to get validation from the boxing community, which is what he wants.
Well, he wants to fight Canelo, right? Is that real?
Yeah. I mean, the amount of money they'd make is insane.
That's why, but this doesn't get them close to that.
It keeps them busy, I guess.
So that's good.
You wanna do one more one, Mike?
And wrap it up?
Oh, and Julio hasn't boxed in four years.
So there's that.
Should we do this one too or no sure yeah
You've seen this one you created it Brian. Oh, I did a stitch. Okay. Yeah, let's watch
Entire friend group versus one
Chimpanzee versus a Cobra
a good chimpanzee versus a Cobra built chimpanzee?
Very good question. Okay, let's take a look at my group of friends
that I'm choosing.
I'm choosing Brendan Shaw, UFC heavyweight
and 270 pound gorilla.
Pause it.
UFC.
270?
I'm 245 right now.
You have to exaggerate.
All right.
Cause for the fight you're gonna be 270
cause you gotta put on some-
A bulk if I don't get ready for a gorilla. Okay, go ahead and
Green beret Joe Rogan crazy crazy roundhouse kicks and black belt and jiu-jitsu Nick Simmons
comic bodybuilder wrestler his whole life strong as as an ox and Brian Callahan
Here's what happens Brendanub meets that chimp halfway.
He takes the brunt, probably throws him in the guard
or just runs at him and somehow gets on top of that chimp.
That chimp is biting.
It's gonna be a big problem.
But Joe Rogan is roundhouse kicking that chimp
right in the head.
Boom, boom.
Tim Kennedy is on top of that chimp.
He's getting behind that chimp and sinking a choke.
He's choking that thing.
I'm grabbing one limb, Nick is grabbing the other. When I say limb, I'm talking about hands. Now all the chimp and sinking a choke. He's choking that thing. I'm grabbing one limb, Nick is grabbing the other.
When I say limb, I'm talking about hands.
Now all the chimp has is his feet.
I don't think that chimp has the gas.
He's gonna gas out.
I think at the end of the day,
we're all getting bit and scratched up and messed up,
but that chimp loses.
You cannot take Joe Rogan's roundhouse kicks,
Tim Kennedy's chokes,
Brendan Schaub's knees and punches and jujitsu. It's too much. It's five high level
black belt jujitsu one muster and Brian Callan who's going to
be doing stuff like screaming and directing those guys.
Let's go guys do that. So I'm pretty motivated.
Your entire thing is so fucked up.
No, so fucked up no no
We beat him. I don't Tim you Tim and then it's Rogan really
It's me really really it's me and Tim doing all the work and Nick Nick is you know around nobody wrestled
So he's not a get on top of him maybe that really it's me and Tim taking the brunt of it And then you guys you got it. You got a literally run headfirst into that fucker. Yeah, and and
Like I'm I don't get him on his back. You could get him on his knees a rip my fucking he's gonna back off
No, no, he's like this. It's it's biting. It's his biting his teeth are a problem. They're big problems
You got to figure out you know what you got to do? I don't know what you have to do.
What are you going to do?
You may have to just run at him and just try to grab.
I don't think that's the move.
I'm not going solo.
I think we all attack him at once.
At the same time.
At all times.
So he's like, ah, ah, ah.
I agree.
I agree.
He doesn't know what to do.
We literally go, go!
It can't be one guy going forward.
No, we all go forward now. We all go
We all go out of and then someone just needs to get around his neck to choke That's a lot of us and we there's no way he went and then we stomp his head in we stomp his fucking head in
Cuz cuz you know we send or we send you in first
He grabs you when he grabs you me and Tim get on his back. I don't want to be the one who's first either
You or Nick.
It's probably Nick, because he's strong. Well, it doesn't matter.
It's a champ.
It's a champ, but with you and Tim.
We just need his, we need him occupied.
So we got to distract them with you or Nick.
You guys are going to be the bait.
And then when he locks in on you,
me, Joe and Tim take care of it.
I actually think, I think what we do.
And then you cook the boys dinner and suck us off.
Oh my goodness.
Well wait, not yet.
We all run at him at the same time.
He's, he doesn't know what to do.
I don't like that game plan anymore.
We need one guy to go for it.
Bring up a chimp, I wanna see if he has a neck
to see if you could choke it.
Cause you could choke him probably.
Cause you're, yeah that's.
Not much there.
But bring up alpha chimp.
Oh, there's not a lot of neck there.
Not a lot of neck.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Not a chance.
It's hard to see.
Yeah, that's a lot to deal with.
No, bring up the biggest chimp you can find.
They don't have a lot of neck.
Well, what you want to do is really bring up a hairless chimp, and this is where we
really get to it.
No, we didn't say hairless.
That's a good point.
No, but I want to show you.
Yeah.
So no, just keep going.
Yeah.
Like that, that's what we have to deal with there.
That arm, that right there.
That's what you're going to have to come at.
I'm going to kick him right in those big nuts.
You're going to kick him in the nuts, but he's got some strength
There's a huge you know, there's some strength in that
If he's 200 pounds, we're having a big problem. Oh Jesus. Look at those teeth. That is not look at those legs and
Those arms that is a real fucking problem, isn't it?
We're not looking forward to this.
Can one guy hold on to that arm?
No, not chance.
I mean, not a chance.
It'd be a tough night in the office.
It's a tough night in the office.
So what do we do?
Let look at that.
You want to fuck with that thing?
Like, what are we going to do here?
We send Rogan first and he thinks it's his brother.
Cause they look pretty similar, right?
Both bald, both Jack.
That's right.
By the way, that's right.
We send Rogan to just compromise with them, lowers guard and then
Tim jumps on his back.
You can punch him in the face.
You got enough fucking close to his head.
It wouldn't matter.
He's going to, he's going to get, he's going to punch.
It won't do much to him.
I think you got to get him on the ground.
Someone gets on his back
You're gonna start choking him and we start curb stomp him like American history
I mean you're getting on that back. Where are you gonna put your fucking that thing is a gremlin? He's a fucking gremlin. Yeah handful
Yikes
Yeah, well, that's it. I don't think you stand chance. Oh
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This is a story that begins with a dying wish.
One thing I would like you to do.
My mother's last request that my sister and I finish writing the memoir she'd started about
her German childhood when her father designed a secret superweapon
for Adolf Hitler.
-"Germany wins!"
My grandfather, Robert Lusser, headed the Nazi project
to build the world's first cruise missile...
-"This is V1 in one..."
-...which terrorized millions and left a legacy
that dogged my mother like a curse.
She had some secrets. Mom had some secrets.
I'm Suzanne Rico. Join my sister and me as we search for the truth behind our
grandfather's work and for the first time face the ghosts of our past.
Geez, who is he?
Listen to The Man Who Calculated Death. Available now wherever you get your podcasts.