The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK Ep. 1129

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

The guys recap Tim Pool's appearance on the show and discuss trying to get their families together for a hang, which sports they think is best for their kids to play, the new Ed Gaines show, NFL's Trevor Lawrence, Steve McQueen's hotness and fashion, Brendan's Cowboy Cerrone and Leonard Garcia stories, how much sports have evolved, Brendan's love for serial killer content, current events around the world and much more.Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkDeleteMe - Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://joindeleteme.com/FIGHTER and use promo code FIGHTER at checkout.Signos - Go to https://signos.com/ and get $10 off select plans with code Fighter.True Classic - True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/fighter ! #trueclassicpodMagic Mind - https://magicmind.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Yes, we did, because we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Let's go. Coming out to you, hot. Coming out to you, Red Hot. We were talking about fresh off the Tim.

Tim Pool. That's cool with no E, buddy. That's true. And if you want the full episode, if you haven't learned it yet, it's on Patreon.com slash T-F-A-T-K, you're talking over two hours. We got into it. Fresh, hot content. Homeboy knows his history.

he knows his he knows he's smart dude man he's really done his home i would hope so and a good guy man a good dude a good dude over two hours go get you some patreon then we're also releasing me and ching got a new little series on there we're trying my favorite barbecue spot oh that drops friday there you go at uh what is it stills and switch styles styles styles and switch you think you and i will ever get the families together and be at each other's houses on a sunday or is it impossible because of sports yeah i don't That's the thing. I don't know when we do it. I know.

No, but they'll have them off weekend soon. Because they'll start dwindling down in November. They start dwindling down in November. And then winter come, winter sports come. He should just come over with the kids. They play in the pool and stuff. Because my son is three and a half will idolize your boys. Yeah.

Oh, boy. Yeah, he'd love it. Bring him over and he likes trucks, right? Love trucks. I learned daddy's a cuck. And his friend, his best friend has some shit for him. He'll be like, oh, my God. By the dad's a gay man.

This is. Yeah, but compared to his buddy. Yeah. Dude. Your dad tucks his dick between his legs. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you like trucks and your dad drives a Tesla? How heartbreaking that is for that kid?

He didn't come home in my house. Like, oh, my God. And all you guys eat his steak is like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, welcome to Texas, little dude. All you guys do is play sports. My dad's always trying to give me to play the fucking guitar. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we don't do that here.

Dad's a cock. Yeah. And these kids talk aggressive. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my son, my son, when my son was at Tim Kennedy's place and my other friends house, now Tim's got, like, motorcycles, go-carts, crazy shit. Yeah, he was all sorts of shit.

And my son was like, well, this is the best. Yeah. And you're, I'm going home, trying to get him home. Tim had to ride him on the front of his electric motorcycle to the end of the driveway. Or otherwise he wasn't getting the car. That's how it goes, dude. And then, and then my buddy, AJ, he has a car, he has every. He's got a crane.

He's got like a little, like a, what is it, an excavator? He's got all kinds of shit. Oh, really? Just a fuck around. He's a gearhead. Oh, yeah. So my son was crying so hard. Oh, no.

He won't want to leave our crib. We got the, we got the UTV. We get around in the neighborhood, all gas. Yeah, he got into my Tesla three. Yeah, yeah. Go down the lake, fish. You want to shoot guns. We can do that.

Yeah. Food. Yeah. Just sports nonstop. Yeah. We'll figure it out because the boys start tailing off, I think in November with baseball. and football and then they we just signed them up for wrestling last night really here we go you don't say i told t i'm like dude if you know baseball ain't gonna make you tough the flag football

sure's fucking gonna make you tough wrestling well yeah wrestling and then boston's like dad i want to wrestle and i said yeah i know the well and i was really doing it for bosti because he wants like his own thing i'm like let's do some wrestling because when they get home from school even before baseball football all they do is go in the backyard and fucking wrestle each other like none stop. Is that right? Yeah, that's all they do. And you, and you don't realize, like, now I see bossy in organized sports, having an older brother is such a cheat code. It's such an advantage because it's like if you, it's like if you're a professional, well, it's like me, I chain carwin. So I'm used to going with this fucking big foot of human being every single day. So that's

all I know. I'm like, all right, this is what we do. And it's like, oh, this is adorable. Oh, cute. so for bossy he's used to going with tiger all the time wrestling football baseball so you're with other five-year-olds he's like what the oh buddy you guys are so fucked it's such a cheat code and then for the older brother it's good because tiger will take risk whether it's basketball football wrestling because his brother's lighter and younger so he'll get out of his comfort zone and take some risk who's going to be bigger do you think physically tiger not even close really He's huge, dude. Bossy's going to be like Jay, probably like six, two, but like lean.

Yeah. He's like, Bossy has a six-pack now. And then Tiger's like me. He's just a big fucking, he's light years more athletic, light years bigger than I was at nine. So much of this is genetics. I love football, obviously. And I was watching Trevor Lawrence yesterday. Yeah, when he slipped and scored the game when he cut-up.

This kid is 6-6. And they say he's 220. I'm sorry. Look at his legs. an ass that guy's 240 he's a fucking house and speed intensity but like some of this is just genetics

man you're just a lot of hard work too a lot of lot of hard well it's not just genetics it's also there's a ton of guys more athletic than him it's crazy will to win but he's special he's special that's a big fella he's a good play he's probably about 220

you think he's thin yeah but he's lean that's what you want you want to be a big Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too big. You don't be too big. She might be seven feet. Look at her. She's, uh, she's on a tip, because she's a, she's not, she's not short.

Who is that, sir? Why's Marissa? But if you think about like John Jones, think how great he has, two brothers always competing with, you think of all these guys that had older brothers, it's the young, because the youngest one has a cheat coat. The youngest one has a cheat coat. And the oldest one has the benefit of trying shit out because he knows he can get away with it so then when he does it against kids his age he's like i've done this before i've tried it

before yeah and it works yeah yeah it's such advantage it's nuts yeah i didn't realize it till and doing it for so long where it just becomes second nature you know i'm looking at these how long has trevor lawrence been playing football you think i mean probably since you're six literally so it's just such a i mean it's just what they do it's so like the the lights the crowd they master everything they've just and he's been dealing with those lights since high school no before that i bet before that. God. Wait, wait.

Trevor launches played football for about six years, that's not real. I just thought about professionally. Oh, that's stupid. Three years in college, five years in NFL.

Yeah, that's not at all. So he was, as a freshman, he was already a standout, this kid. Yeah, but if you go to, I mean. Yeah, he was a standout in high school, I'm sure. But even Pop Warner,

like you can tell now at this age, like there's outliers, man. Yes. Like, you're like, oh, that kid has it. That kid definitely doesn't. Yeah. That kid should go get a box of crayons. Yeah.

I mean, at very young age, you can tell the kids who have and who don't. Now, baseball is a little different because it's just... Such a skill? Yeah, and like the big dumper for Seattle, you know, he led the league in home runs. He got cut from his high school football, or high school baseball team. So it's just some guys, and then they put in the work and then they get better. Right. Quarterbacks, they say, can be that way.

Curtis Mayfield, they were talking. talking about and as good as he is like it's some of it depends on your offensive scheme you know your your offensive coach the formation yeah you know there's a lot of stuff that goes into it yeah quarterback's tricky man fuck it's so tricky super and then you see some of the guys like some of these wide receivers some of these fucking linebackers defensive ends and defensive tackles and what I mean by that is giant black guys who are yeah but you're talking about just the NFL I'm just talking about yeah no you got to go to high school game bubble you got to get out of the bubble of the NFL you don't want to watch the NFL because it's just you go go to lake

Travis high school go see those fucking kids they're they're they're huge man really they look like a college team when I was playing they're huge god their defense man I think is six six two 40 both of them what yeah they're huge now huge like high schools it's just it everything's up grade everything's like that guy what is it just nutrition training what yeah we were talking about how um you don't when you when you want to learn how to box or you want to learn how to do something you don't necessarily want the guy who was amazing at it no like you don't want michael jorn teach you how to shoot yeah or being your like head coach no you need somebody who can break down yeah there's a difference between a guy who can break it down and can relate to those that need work

and then there's the elite of the lead where like you wouldn't want Kobe Bryant as your coach Right. Because he's, he's going to be tough. Although, his standards are going to be so good. Gordon Ryan's really good, but Gordon Ryan will say, he said this, and I was having this thing. Yeah, but Gordon Ryan's coach is John Dana here. Yeah.

Yes. Yes. So they'll start, a lot of times, like, people like Gordon, like, they'll start with somebody on your back with a body lock and a choke. You know, they'll start, like, you start from the ground up, like lying down. Of course. Yeah. Everyone does it.

Yeah. No, but I, see, no, usually jihitsa was taught. like where you beat each other's guard and you practice arm bar and triangle not a high not not not not not not with a good coach like you you want to start so old school you want to yeah yeah that's stupid you want to start in come not stupid but you want to start in compromise position so you get used to so when you're put there you don't freak the fuck out yes yeah yeah same reason navy seals go fucking underwater uh-huh and they make him keep going up and down all that time well they make them so when you get times they make them drown underwater yeah so you've been there same thing in fighting like you're like you're you're fighting like you're you're like you're you're not so something in fighting like you're you're you're you want to put in the most compromised position so you can work your way out of it yeah yeah we'll see how team bossy do with wrestling it's just it's a different like it's not for you have to have a special kid to embrace that type of work ethic you know it's not for every it's it's not baseball it's not football it's not basketball you have to special kid and usually kids that grow up in Santa Monica calabasas in like in lakeway where i'm at the the chance of them grab

taint towards wrestling is probably not good we'll see they they want to do it because it's a i was telling them i'm like we can do it i'll sign you up bossy i think he's different than t but it's going to be tough man you're like you're not going to excel at it right away you're not going to dominate everybody and you got to get in really good shape and there's no breaks either that's the other thing baseball we get a break football you can find a break basketball you can find your break there's no breaks in wrestling but that's why like college recruiters especially in football and baseball especially in football one of the number of things they want is a wrestler a kid who can did football and wrestling because they know he's mentally he's going to be fucking tough

and he thrives in one-on-one competition but again it's not for everyone it's it's it's some would say the toughest of sports nightmare the shape you have to be in that constant pressure not not at this age you're not sucking weight but the constant pressure of one-on-one and all the eyeballs are new some kids thrive in it so him kids don't yeah i think he should be should be okay in it i think he'll do obviously physically he'll be fucking fine he's stronger than everybody but he uh we'll see there's only one way to find out but if he wants to do it i'm down bossy i know will be good at it you gotta have that dog in you it's tough to get dogs and kids that grow up in fucking you know the peninsula yeah but sometimes you just have um you're your competitive as fuck that can be

the dog you just want to win yeah you know that's what i'm talking about that dog somebody pushes you and you're like i'm pushing back you know or you bring it out of them where like they keep getting beat down you know you can beat on them one day like all right enough's enough it's a personality thing yeah it is some kid again it's not for everyone

some kids gravitate towards it i i loved that aspect of it i loved it loved it love it but you can't you can't really teach that they either got it or they don't they either they got like there's this kid on t's team 77 is he's just a dog man so you know he's just a there's this and you see it right away social scientist he studies like development children like it's been his life's work written several books and he was doing a podcast and he said i i tell parents and it drives them nuts i say ultimately you don't have nearly as much to do oh i know you told me that before i disagree with that guy i wonder if he has kids

well he does well what it would that's not the point he's looking at the metadata meaning this you And they were debating it. It was like reading your kid a bedtime story, being there and coaching your kid, make sure they get enough nutrition and sleep, stable household, of course. You know, all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, all that stuff. But at the end of the day, what they find is that they take all those factors into account.

And ultimately, you either have that dog in you to succeed or you don't. The dog, yes. The dog, yes. That's what you're saying. Oh, no, there's nothing. No, they're born with it. That's it. There's certain things they're born with.

That's it. You either have that. You either have that line's heart where it's like, whatever it takes, I'm willing to die out here. I won't come in last no matter what. And I was just born like that. And then, like, my brother was different. He was competitive. He was gifted, but he was like, I don't give a fuck.

Why don't I give a fuck? You know? Like, I don't care. Yep. Bren, let's take a little break. Can we take a break, pal? Can we talk about delete me? If you don't like breaks, go to patreon.com slash T-FATK.

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for me I would always see something I wanted. Like I was like, oh, I want to do that. And then I would just move in that direction, no matter what. So. But I had a dad yesterday,

he's like, man, my son's doing jiu-jitsu. He's like, he's always, you know, he's doing it like, three years now.

He's like, it just doesn't build his confidence. I was like wrestling and boxing, dude. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, I'm worried,

like, if he does get into a situation at school, I'm like, yeah, to guard. Yeah. Like, no, if you want to build his confidence, get him boxing. He starts hitting those mitts, having some success on there.

He's going to be more comfortable to engage when he does get bullied. Somebody also, a coach that can break it down and teach you how to navigate that. There's great coaches, though, with kids. If you find a good coach that knows how to coach kids, they're the best. Yeah. Yeah, because jihitsu is tough. And the other thing is, it takes a really long time to get confidence in jihitsu. You're constantly getting tapped out.

So for a kid, is it the best? I don't think so. It's fun. Again, it depends on the coach. depends how the classes run all that stuff but because wrestling can be too much for them sometimes some kids again not for everyone yeah the kid says too much and that's not his thing is that you know like i talked to chao about it when i was in la because tea and bossy want to do it in l.a and he was like man there's a school they're great they're great he's like but you might want to check it out

first because it's really intimidating for a young kid he's like some of those rooms are super intimidating and the kid goes in there he's like oh fuck this he's like you got to you got to find that balance where it's like inviting it's encouraging it's fun because like because the team i'm saying to it's a russian coach it's many latinas and russians in there oh boy they don't come from much and they're fucking dogs now the dogs check please yeah that's a different yeah that's a different thing so my buddy was in isler by jean which is right next to you know chetchenahan all the monsters and and they well those kids do what's called wrestling boxing kickboxing and you know you'll have some world champion who's teaching a bunch of kids in a basement

which is where they were they were in a basement with dirty mats and they don't have it that's their way out yeah their their coach was like a silver medalist in the worlds or something you know and they they're wrestling they're doing m-ma they're practicing and but i think they were just doing wrestling and uh and the coach they're these kids are like nine and ten whatever and the coach like as a reward brings out a mesh bag full of headgear, gloves, and... Like, fight? Yeah, and what do the kids do? They go, yeah, they're all excited.

It's all they know up there. Yeah, and they just pit though. They just, it's just what they do once in a while, and they just slug it out. It's just what they do up there. And they don't have football or baseball. And they just, it's like, they come up differently. They come up different. It's not that they're better athletes.

It's just a tougher way of living. It's what they have. It's just what... And he said that. There was this one kid who's so good. He's like, yeah, he's so good because his dad works in a factory two hours away. Just goes to that factory, comes back.

They have, that's what they have. You either have, you're going to work in a factory or you're going to be in the UFC if you're the one person in the entire group. Enjoy that. That's what you're dealing with. Like if you, I'm sure if you see, if you see Khabib's camp, if you were to go there to see all the guys

who are not in the UFC. A lot of them. Killers. Probably, probably, probably, Majority of them are just fucking killers. They're defined killer. Were that wrestling? World champions.

That's that make you a good UFC fighter. I'm saying, but world champions and kickboxing. You know, world rank than wrestling. Probably more world rank and wrestling. Probably not too many world champion kickboxes out of that. Well, you had one guy who was in his camp who was like a moitai champion or whatever. I mean, it's guys still credentialed fighters, just not maybe not UFC, but killers, you know, great wrestlers. It doesn't mean they're good of fighters, though.

you know big difference big difference because you go down to ATT there's you have legit been there killer yeah go down there and N aka like you walk around you're like go down to jackson's what the fuck and all of them are in the UFC and a lot of them a lot of Olympic wrestlers Olympic but all of them in the UFC yeah yeah you're the right gym they're fucking killers yep keep kab's team's doing something right though ATT has dorms where they like people like all the major gyms do know oh really yeah Jackson's had dorms for like development Jackson's the first one really yeah they were just developed in the gym or develop or if you're really good you had you could just sleep there and then wake up and train I mean there's nothing nice no but if you want it bad enough

that's what you do you ever sleep there uh I stayed with cowboy and Leonard Garcia so I don't have to sleep there, but Cody stayed there. Cody would stay in there. Cody Garbrandt? Donovan. Oh, Donovan. Yeah, Cody would go down. You guys were all living together.

Just a bunch of animals. Yeah. It's a great time. Time of my life. Really? Yeah, it was great. Cowboys still doing it. Beast.

Still doing the damn thing. You were there when he was built up as a huge ranch, or was it just? Cowboys? Yeah. Because he slowly built it up, right? No, we're all just starting. Yeah. He was coming from W.

i was coming from ultimate fighter Leonard Garcia's come from WC him and Leonard rented a house so it's not like that old garrsia i can't remember oh he's a wild man was he the little guy who had crazy fights brawls yeah mex and cat like so

exciting to watch yeah his fights were zombie were crazy nuts first one get put in a tornado but he had some great fights he fought at 45 i think right great fights yeah great fights 45 55 covered in blood just those wc days were great wow and twister i think you said tornado yeah twister that's right wow yeah he's those were the days yeah him and cowboy are super close still are

cowboy hits me up once a week asking when the ufc checks are coming i'm like bro i don't i don't have anything to do with it love it because all we were waiting for everyone waiting for the ufc money was waiting for the judge to sign off on it yes it was like a lazy judge and he took like two weeks he just signed off on it last friday so that means the money starts going out this week jeez let's go yeah i bet hamilton silver just getting that fucking 15 million in his bank accounts when i was i wonder anything for fans who've been part of the struggle i don't think so man but i mean people have really been there from day one like the cowboy's going to get a fucking juicy track he's going to get paid yeah let's go guys

good time what was that case about though just fighter pay in terms of fighter pay yeah sharing in the spoils mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm my dodgers to no baby you're not against the yankees uh no that'd be reds nope so they're american league right and we're still The Phillies, I meant. The Phillies, there you go. Two and O, beat them both in Phillies. What did the scores been? Because I watched one where it was 10.

Last night was 4 to 3. We're up 4 to 1 headed into the ninth. And our fucking closers are awful, except for this one Japanese feller. The night before we scored seven runs in an ending. The Dodgers are, it's scary to be the fan. Because so close, so close, and they just explode and score like five, six runs. And they're going to win it? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, the winner of Philly Dodgers, I think, would go on to the World Series. Games on today? Dodgers have tonight off because they're coming back to L.A. Because now you've got two in L.A. So they beat them both in Philly. Now they're coming back to L.A. enjoy that.

Yoshi's going to pitch. See when the next game is, Jen? I'm pretty sure they get a night off tonight, especially coming back to L.A. And who are the Yankees playing? Yankees are playing Toronto and they're down 02. They've been in their ass whooped. Yeah.

You got Milwaukee in Chicago. Milwaukee's up 2-0. Damn. Yeah. Brewers. Yeah. You got Seattle, Detroit. The one's 1-1.

I'm going to use my damn phone. A lot of games. What did you say, Jen? I'm going to use my damn phone. They're going to hear a shit. You got an internet problem, everybody. Game. three tomorrow at six o'clock i'll be able to watch that is it that much fun watching baseball

the best really half baseball yeah the best it's so good i tried it's so boring for me it's such a beautiful game at this level because it gets comes out of the wire close sometimes it's just like crazy you're seeing the best of the best the best pitchers everything but i'm not into any of these sports, but when I watched NBA playoffs, to me, that was way more fun watching the Lakers. That comes down to, like, one second and stuff. It's crazy. But football has been that been that way? Some of the best games ever this season in the NFL.

Close games. Last night was nuts. Yeah, last night was good. Playoff football is great. I like college. I like regular season playoff college. Yeah. I like college better.

I never watch college. Probably because I can't get involved in that yet. I don't watch pro. You don't? I watched last night, but it's rare I watch pro. It was a good game last night. but every game every game has been so good coming down to the wire i guess field goal i guess field goal kickers are kicking farther now there's something about the kid from jacksman on the

preseason had a 70 yarder and then last night he was 53 like it wasn't shit nuts yeah it is strange yep it's just they see somebody do it and you know like the guy that broke the first four minute mile and they go oh shit you can't kick that far well there's there's they change their technique like tennis is so different the way they hit the ball now is just like nobody hit that hard back in the day ever someone had a what i think it's the go pro from the ump when otani's pitching and he threw i think like two sliders and a fastball was like let me see it 102 i don't know where it's at it's like 101 102 it's like what it's like to hit against otani like i don't he throws 102 oh yeah i'm like i don't see how you hit it you don't you have to start you have to

I sat in the batting cage when it came at me at 100 miles an hour. You have to start hitting, swinging for me. Well, yeah, you. But, like, you got to start your load so early. You kind of got to guess. Mookie Betts starts his load earlier than anybody. But even, like, that's why I never get, like, I never get mad at Tiger if he strikes out or if it's not, it's, I can't do it.

The crazy thing is, Otani can also fucking. What's crazy. Otani because Swarber the cat from Phillies who was probably like second or third MVP voting so he's hit whatever 53-54 home runs this year

Otani hit 56 so Otani's hitting 56 home runs pitching against the guy hit 54 home runs and Otani lights him up like struck him out it's weird to see God yeah it's fucking weird to see

yeah man he's just unreal But even at Tiger's level, like 9, 10, those kids switching like 60, you're like, wow, I don't see how you guys do it. You know, it's just what they do, though, you know? Whatever. It's just fucking weird. It's what they do. I don't know what to say about that. I know.

It's crazy. When they have success out, you're like, holy shit, dude, you're doing it, man. 60 miles an hour? Yeah. I don't think it's that fast. That's insane. No, it's that fast. Let's take a little break, buddy, because I want to talk to you about Cignos.

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That's S-I-G-N-O-S.com. Get $10 off, select plans with the Code Fighter. That's Signos.com, code fighter for $10 off a select plan today. Signos. I went to spring training with Kevin, so a lot of his guys, a couple of guys are on the Yankees and other guys. And if you see those pictures, it's not like they're in great shape. They're just very big with long arms. yeah yeah but you know it's not it's not like they're all shredded no no and even some of the

baseball players now some of the guys from cuba one guy had the hindquarters of a horse and a dig but that's across the board like in the NBA like people think they're shredded they're not no like luco's fat as fuck carmel anthonyth was built like a baby yeah like there's a lot of guys NFL too like in the locker room you think these guys gonna be shredded there's not everyone's wired that way nope you never played baseball as a kitchen yeah but just like our friends in the neighborhood yeah yeah nothing that's a weird that's a what it's crazy we played football a lot though but it was just not as you never played sports no i told you guys why they tried to get me

in the football they tried to get me to football but i had to cut my hair i was in the middle oh yeah he wanted long hair yeah it's the dumbest rule too i was like i could just play in that music then I just focused on music yeah have you been playing music lately no I haven't been doing a lot lately why oh you know just stuff yeah I'll get back into it though just start playing he's still putting together his house yeah start playing one brick at a time yeah but start playing that break time takes forever yeah I did I did play a few songs like a couple weeks ago I never feel like writing stand-up but I start writing it just happens yeah then I get stuck in his own it's cool yeah it feels good you play because that's what you are you know musician yeah you still

talk to broushton i haven't talked to him for a while yeah have you uh we text back and forth a while ago yeah what's he up to he's still doing music all the time yeah he's still constantly put out music his brother died so he's been tough yeah i know for all things that he passed away from i don't know it was i think he's talked about he probably put on his instagram but it was from substance a few months ago Probably, like, four months ago. Yeah, accidental overdose. Because Browse had an issue with, you know, drugs.

That's his thing. That's why he works at those rehab centers. Poor guy. Yeah, I was a great guy. Yeah, really good guy. That sucks. So the John Jones thing, that's kind of what made me think about that stuff, too. Like, you know, that's the time when they sometimes relapse, you know, things like that,

tragic things happen like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What do you got, Chin? Chin, you had an older brother, right? It's just like you.

I told you. My brother's two years older than me. He didn't play sports either? I think he played football. What's he do? He's the director of IT for a company. Drives a sweet GTR. Yeah, he's super smart.

I've asked him. I told him I would lease it from him. He's like, nah. He's trying to sell it? Huh? Is he trying to sell it? No, because those are hard to get now. They don't make them anymore.

True. Yeah. But then I told him, because he was just sitting in the garage, I'm like, I'll, I'll pay you. Just let me use it. He's like, nah, it's okay. I won't even let you drive it? No, he let me, I brought it out. Yeah, I remember it. Yeah, I was sick.

Give me some current events. All right, let's try this. Let's try this with the internet we got here. Have me a max. Have you a max? Backed it up. So this is, you know about this, Brandon. I sent this to, this is Ed Gaines.

That's not the real chair. Please tell me. That's the chair, dude, that they found in his house. Those are real faces and skin. He made furniture. What? He made a chair with a nipple on it. Come on, dude.

That's cre- That's a, oh my God. Is that real? That's the actual chair they found in his house. Hold on. Can you zoom in, please? On the actual chair? Face here, face here.

Wouldn't it stink? Right there. His house must have smelled like straight. dick. I mean, that is... This house, he had noses and nipples and wieners. What's the captain say?

It says, uh... Here, what you're looking at isn't a horror movie prop. It's the actual piece of furniture made from human skin, faces and bones. Discovered in the home of Ed Gein, one of the most disturbing criminals of American history. When police entered his Wisconsin farmhouse in 1957,

they found chairs, lampshades, bowls. So the bowl was a human skull. He would eat cereal and beans out of a human skull cut in half. Corpses up from local graveyard. Let's see. They found Bulls, mask, and even a belt all made from human skin, faces, and bones.

Ed wasn't a prolific serial killer. He's not a serial killer, but what made him infamous was what he did with the bodies. Most of his gruesome crafts came from corpses. He dug up from local graveyards, but he did kill at least two women, including a local hardware store owner whose body

was found, decapitated, and gutted like a deer. The horror inside his home was beyond anything authorities that's seeing. Among the findings, this is why I think his house smelled like asshole. This was in his house chilling. A box of noses. A box of noses. A waste basket made a flesh.

A human face used as a window shade. Okay. Okay. You sound like you were... Ed confessed that he wanted to create a woman's suit so he could become his dead mother. Crush in it. A fixation that would later inspire some Hollywood's most iconic killers include Norman Bates. Leatherface, Buffalo Bill.

He was declared legally insane and spent the rest of his life in a mental institution dying in 1984. Long run, though, because I think he was born in 1904. That's a long run. He just sounds like a real, like, yeah, something went wrong. Can you appreciate the actual artwork on this, though? Yeah, the guy had skills. I mean, seriously.

Yeah, the guy had skills. If he would have just use- That's actually incredible. If he would just use cow leather, he'd be crushing it. And he just sat there. What's in the middle? Can you zoom in on the... It looks like a face, right?

Well, there's... No, there's something going on there that looks like... I don't even know what that is. Now, would people come over and sit in that and be like, dude, this cheers crunchy as shit? His victims were probably seated in that. That is a nightmare. That is a fucking... Have you started watching the series yet?

I've not. Oh, it's good. It's so good. I've not. That might be an asshole in the middle there. Yeah, it might be. Either way. Make a lampshade out of assholes.

By the way, it is horrifying. Block up that sun, son, son. God. Jesus. I mean, it's so good, though. It's actually, look at that. It looks like it's fake. It's about the craftsmanship.

Yeah. It's good work. It's good work. It's a collage of human skin. Now, I'm pretty sure Zach Baggins has the, he has something of Ed's. He has either the big bowl that he used, like the big thing to burn the, the people. in because he needed to separate the bones from the flesh yeah bad energy you know yeah you don't want that shit no bad energy not in your house but it's in his haunted house that makes sense yeah not interested

what i want to do is take because uh joe loves all this haunted shit too i want to go to new orleans go on a haunted tour for halloween um yeah i've been to new Orleans when they were giving those haunted tours and yeah but you don't like that stuff yeah i love it that'd be fun to do and you don't organize that but what's the good haunted tour if you guys live in New Orleans let me know the good haunted tours I thought about that

we didn't talk about this on the podcast but me and my buddy we fly in a helicopter to go and work out and we landed at our trade country where we usually do and we had some police officers running toward the helicopter and we got out

we were like uh oh we probably shouldn't be landing here because it's a helicopter and it turned out i see his shirt and it says homicide and there's another detective never good shirt and then yeah i've seen way too much for a full year to my right not more than i don't know nine feet was a woman who unfortunately lost her life to her i guess the man she was with they were a homeless couple fighting and he killed her shot her shot her or stabbed her um and they were they were measuring the tire prints they were trying to get the tire prints and the homicide detective goes that's how my morning's going you just literally your propeller fucked up our in we don't have the tire prints it blew everything away oh you guys

they were they were they hadn't even taken pictures they were trying to look down no one saw the commotion well our buddy was texting us going don't land here they're doing and we didn't see my buddy but no one looked down was like there there's a lot of guys there we didn't see it we were just coming in we came in the other way so we're coming in the other way landed we're not you're not looking for a crime scene and so unfortunately we in our helicopter hopefully didn't mess these guys up they were really cool

yeah we did and now that murder is going to get away with it because you guys at the land you're stupid helicopter we were grounded I had to drive here I was very inconvenienced by a homicide but no it was but I was looking over at that crime scene that homeless guys going like this

thanks player that's right literally 100% and I was looking at this and by the the way that homeless guy had been shouting at us through the fence a couple of times when we landed there so he was not well so you think it's him i believe it was probably him you don't know though well he had he had his car there and he had all his shit there oh so you know what kind of car was yeah he had a car there well tell him that give the cops the information no he left in another car that's why they were measuring the tire prints or whatever it was so anyway um i'm looking at the

trash strewn around and it's a homeless encampment as you would imagine but I thought to myself this poor woman whatever happened to her in life here she was and this is the last thing she saw and you let the murder get away with it she died she saw trash and then a helicopter comes along and then your dumb ass comes in because you wanted to well you wanted you want to you want to cut out 20 minutes I don't like traffic there's no traffic yeah that's like traffic like traffic like a helicopter in L.A. makes all the sense that traffic's horrific yeah I've been been here what six months down five months i've never hit traffic i don't like traffic there's no traffic i felt like a piece of shit because there i am landing and maybe ruining oh no these men are trying to work and

solve a crime oh no you're a cold i would arrest you i should be arrested you help the murder get well i'm an aristocrat and and i post a video of me and my helicopter oh wow yeah yeah how many helicopter videos do you think we can post a little much a little much just a little much at this point i'm going to speak For me, and all the fan base, stop posting it. I haven't in a long time, and I thought maybe I would, because it was a new helicopter. This was a bigger one. Yeah. Stop posting helicopters.

Yeah. We get it, right? Yeah. I was like, man, it's kind of getting old because you're just in the helicopter. Yeah. But you definitely helped them get away. You know what? Flying in a helicopter never gets old for me.

I just, I love it. Oh, there it is. Zach Baggins owns the, basically the. pot that serial Ed which acquired until I'm 15 okay I wonder how much he paid for that yeah see he owns that that's the pot that he would put the parts

in to separate the bones from the flesh our boy Zach owns that he paid not a bad deal it's 2,800 bucks though the value was estimated much higher he got a bargain yeah yeah I'm not into that macabre stuff I

I will say, though, that they had the body yesterday, that they hadn't moved yet. And there is this... That makes you sad. Well, I didn't want to see. I mean, I, out of respect for her, this human being who had a terrible life or something, whatever the fuck happened, all the wrong choices, I don't know. But, you know, I did kind of, there's a, there's that feeling of, well, I would, I would look at it. You kind of want to see.

You have to. It's human nature. Like, I remember when Jay and I, shit, when... And we were driving out here. We were with Tiger. I was in the excursion, and we left at 4 in the morning. And off the 101, the traffic was so bad. It's 4 in the morning.

Traffic's so bad. And I go, man, somebody would be every fucking dead up there. This is wild. We go by, and I tell Tiger, look out the other way. I go, T, look, look over there. So he looks, and then Jay's like, you don't want to start your morning off with this. You look, and it's just fucking, hoarsing. My, my.

That'll fuck you up. My girlfriend and I drove by, I never forgot. It was a nice Sunday morning on our way to San Diego. Or maybe it was a Saturday. It was just a beautiful day, no traffic. Yeah, we're getting sucked up. Then there was a little traffic, no, little traffic. And we're like, whatever.

And we see a cop sitting on the hood of his car. Another guy just hanging out with coffee, and they're talking. And I'm not joking when I say this. We look, there's a car messed up. And I look, and on the ground, I see. two women's shoes like this old shitty shoes and she's covered in a blanket yeah we're like she's dead that's how some people's day's right there that's how their day started that's how they started it's just yeah i saw the same thing with a motorcycle same thing guy was just you know covered in a

blanket you see a dead body it will frack you up man that's how his day ended on a sunny morning that that that accent where i helped those kids out i grabbed the kid look i was like he's like my mom i'm like where's your mom in front seat i look and gore you could see some of her brains but just like yeah lights out and i'm the first one there yeah buddy that'll fuck you up i'd night miss for about three days and then it's weird and then you just kind of move on yeah yeah and then you're and then you go what are you going to do nothing happens terrible people terrible people out there yeah what are you going to do yeah yeah yeah Yeah, I don't, yeah, this old school, like the ed stuff, the, the Jeffrey Dahmer stuff, that

maybe because I'm so disconnected from it. I'm interested in it, and I can, I can, I can just sleep like a baby after I watch it. Yeah. Just because I'm disconnected, I guess. It just doesn't feel real. Like, it's so evil. It's like, God the fuck, dude. They said there's, remember we read an article about that.

There's something about your personality that's different than other people. Yeah. It's not like, uh. is that you're a psychopath and watch that stuff and fall asleep. I call bullshit. No, I mean, you can be fascinated by it because it's a way of collecting information.

So you know how women, they say, I've dated several women who are obsessed with serial killers. Like knew everything about them. They were fascinated with the psychology of what makes a monster. But a lot of that, they say, as a survival technique, of gathering information about a psycho,

knowing and be able to read whether somebody is... Yeah, but it's weird when they want to fuck them. well that is weird and that by the way is the ultimate like alpha in their mind but yeah so so evolutionarily they got it so fucked up because those guys aren't alpha yes but the btk killer uh richard ramirez jeffrey domer there couldn't be anything less alpha than those fucking soft right but there's who take out innocent the idea is the idea is um i can i can get to him i can take care of the monster he's wounded and i can fix i can tame this monster

that's it the boogeyman it's like owning a wild vicious lion that only likes you you know they wouldn't kill you know they had bad dads growing up there's something going on there oh well it's not even that there's an evolutionary thing there there's like this strange so you have two you have you have you have um genetic abnormalities on both sides super passive feminine men super hyper like borderline psychotic men over here the psychopaths the the men who are psychopaths are the ones that cause all the problems so in armed conflict they're drawn to it and they they exacerbate it they'll try to create a small thing into a big thing they're awful you actually see this on on social media too the narcissistic sociopaths

the sadistic sociopaths that's what they get off on yep sounds like you high sensation seeking but not low empathy yeah yeah i don't like any of that shit yeah i love it i can't enough especially the old the old school l.a serial killers i i just love old hollywood old l. i'm drawn to the old school days of l. why style i don't know i just love it i like i think you're driving down mahalan like i hope i love that old do you know how i want to start dressing like steve mcclans like steve mcqueen bring up steve mclean you want to wear a dress like Ed Gaines Between that and Steve McQueen

Yeah he was an icon Yeah he just dressed He was a big car guy you know it is It's just not your thing though Brian Like he was such an alpha and he was like such a car guy too Yeah Yeah but like he raced professionally Yeah I like how he dressed this too

Look at Oh he was a fucking fashion icon Yeah like look at his Some of those badass you've ever seen Keep clicking on it I'm pretty sure. Like that right there. Adam Carolla has like three or four of his race cars.

Yeah. Look at it. But I'm not going to do that. You know Steve McQueen was supposed to be at Sharon Tate's house the night of the Charles Manson murders. And then he carried a gun. And he was on their list to kill. So he carried a gun with him all the time after that. Wow.

Really? Uh-huh. He's supposed to be at Sharon Tate's house the night they killed everybody. Yeah, he was a fucking stud. It's just a real guy's guy. By the way, he was, like, he looks older that. He was, like, in his early 30s. People aged.

Yeah, they aged different back then, huh? That's a sick shirt. I bet his dick was a exhausted from getting sucked. Oh, dude. His wife, his ex-wife said it. I bet he was like, again? His ex-wife said that we would drive out of the gate and there were women waiting at the gate.

He goes, and she goes, and I get it. After a while, it's like, how do you deal with it? I won't say who the celebrity is, but he's a, you know who he is I'll tell you how fair he's a heartthrob big big dude you've met him

big dude and I've people that are close when they met with him and he has to the door and a towel and my buddy is with his girl and he's like

what the fuck didn't he's like just bodyed you know just a really handsome dude and they're like yeah he's doing a lot better now man he's a lot better he's only having sex with one woman a day

now different one every day but one woman a day yeah and they're like he's just doing a lot he's a much better headspace and they're like what was there like five to six and then he goes then he goes he goes yeah what are you going to do and he goes he shows him his instagram he goes look at my dms he goes dude you've never seen anything like it nothing like

it when i tell you it is you like oh that makes sense yeah he goes he goes we scrolled he goes you're talking thousands every day famous influencer hot all of them want to have sex thousands and he goes like this sure yeah i mean you know what though sometimes yeah you can suck my dick yeah now i'm sorry but you know that's not going to last forever and well for him it probably will but at the end of the day you can understand how that becomes your addiction oh yeah i mean or like any guy who has a judgment on that you've not been there you don't have those problems you don't know nor do you want those problems and i've seen I and you have seen

what that kind of superstardom when you're a stud looks like. Oh, I'm not even a fraction as famous as this guy and I struggle with it for a very long time. Yeah, you did. You got crazy. I saw the attention you got was out of control. Yeah, and there's no booking rid of how to handle it.

You just go through it and then you're like, right, this ain't, this ain't going to have. It's not manageable. No. I was miserable. It was fun. But I was miserable. Now that guy's level?

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So she's with Caller Daddy, who we love. She's great. I didn't want kids. I didn't want to get married. I thought I was going to be career girl, and that's it. And I had my eyes set on my goals, and I was never the little girl that, like, dreamt about the wedding dress and all of that. happened so early in my life? Did you talk to Steph about it? He tries to resonate with me,

but he just can't. Oh, Steph Curry can't? Interesting. I just don't get why you go on a podcast and say that. Also, if I'm Steph Curry, I'm just like. It's overshare culture and complete shit. And but also, I'm so against that. I know. If I'm Seth Kerr, I'm like, what do you doing? Even if you feel that way, like, bitch, I'm Steph Curry. I would have lost my mind. Me too.

When we got a home, I'm like, what do you do? I would never do that to my mind. I'm like, oh, you didn't want to be a mom? Oh, you don't like being a mom? Fuck off. And then we have internet problems. She goes on to say she's like, she's in, and the caller daddy girl goes. And so, like, even now, like, you regret having kids.

She's like, oh, I talk to my therapist about it every single day. Oh, she's awful. Also, bitch, the own. reason you're even given a platform is because your husband happens to be the best shooter in NBA history. History. The only reason we know you. Oh, really this career you speak of? What was it going to be? In entertainment, you would have went nowhere. Correct. And so now it's like, oh, I could have been this. No, no, no, no. Don't get twisted. The only reason we know your name is because if your husband, who's built this amazing life for you, that you have so many benefits that while you're doing

this interview, he probably paid for a babysitter because he can shoot a fucking basketball well. I hate to shit. See if it plays again? And then imagine being their kids. Imagine her daughter, I think they have the two daughters going, well, hold on, you don't like being a mom? You don't want to be a mom? She's a narcissist. She's a very brown. And he also comes from a place

of like, it's effing stupid. It's not true, so why you? And I'm like, but wait, like, listen to how it makes me feel? And he's like, but why? It doesn't make you feel like that. It's not real. After we got married, we found out we were pregnant with our daughters so quickly. It, I didn't even have time to think about what I wanted anymore. It's so interesting. I spent my entire life like trying to work towards something and then it kind of just disappeared and I didn't think twice about it. But after my daughter turned one, I remember there being a shift

and being like I have goals for myself like this doesn't feel right I love being a mom but I love doing other things too and I need to get my shit together and figure out what that looks like for myself now if I have a career and I'm not home

like did you experience that? I still experience that I still experience that I'm almost like I'm always in therapy talking about this if you lose all of those things that were interesting about you, even for yourself, like even the things that made me be confident.

This gives me a little more clarity. I think what she's saying is a lot of moms identify with, which is I got lost in who I was because I used to be this, and then a child comes along and literally just stops all that. And so then you have to contend with that. So I think that's why it resonates with a lot of women. Because, you know, you had these plans. you get pregnant you have a kid and all of a sudden that's what you're going to do and it's like

oh fuck i was on this way over here i actually wanted to do other things i love being a mom but i also like doing other things and you know when you got a kid it's a full-time job so uh not for her because they have so much help but then also you know he said cry me a fucking river lady also you decide to have unprotected sex and have a kid right with step curry one the most famous guys on the planet you have all this help i just don't understand like i never wanted it's not a lot of upside I never wanted to be a mom. But here's the other thing, too, is she has all the help in the world. They have all the money in the world.

Steph Curry, all the fucking money. Yeah. So if you want to start a coffee shop, now your kids are in school, you probably have more time, lady. Yeah. So whatever this dream is that you thought you were in, which you were never going to get there. That was never going to happen. The only reason you're on here, the only reason you're on the red carpet because your husband can shoot a basketball. Yeah.

If outside that, you would be probably working at Target or some shit like that. And then you'd probably still get pregnant from another man. So then you're working at Target. You're trying to figure out a babysitter. You don't have the money, you know? I just had a Magic Mind Max. You probably saw me drink it on air. And you know why?

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Because we keep taking all their masks. Yeah. I want to apologize. This is the first day I'm not wearing any true classic. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I am. Oh, you're winning? My underwear.

I always have something true classic on. It's always usually a t-shirt. The jeans. I love everything about them. You guys see me and you go, why does Brian look so buttoned down? Why does he look so sexy? Why does he look?

How does his body like that? My body's not like that. It's the t-shirt. Yes. And you know I love my white T's. The only white T I rocked is true classic. That's it. Why do gals in their 20s go,

hey, I'd like to date you because you're in your 30. yep it's because of my true classic t-shirts and guess what you can get them at target now Costco head on over to true classic dot com slash fighter get hooked up today whatever you're thinking it's the essentials t-shirts jeans joggers uh button up chino if you have skinny arms and you want them to look good true classic but you could also hit the gym but also true classic you could hit the gym and you'll look even better in your true classic all right that was her Isha. Just over sharing.

It's fucking stupid. What do you think of this? This is interesting. Using AI to replace an actor is now against the law in California. I don't think anything should be against the law. I just think that I just think we have to ask ourselves because, okay, so you have AI and it's an actress. The actress was an amalgamation of all the other actresses that it's watched.

So there is a piece of you if you're an actress in that in one direction. It should not get paid for it. No. No, but if it's actually reprecating one specific person, then that's not cool. That's fucked up. Well, yeah. And super fucked up. This is going to be a very real thing, I can tell you.

I'm just telling you because like when it comes to doing ads, okay, so you want to do an ad and you want to shoot like a helicopter scene with like this, that and the other thing, it's going to cost you a million dollars because you have to get a helicopter, you have to get a mountain. Now you can do all of it. and more and more with the SORA number two and what Google's coming out with, you don't even need sets anymore. You don't need anything.

You don't even need actors for a lot of stuff. And I'm going to just tell you that in a matter of two years, three years, I don't know when it comes to ads at least, for the most part, unless you're using a celebrity,

I don't know if you're going to see a lot of, you're going to be able to do anything you want for pennies on the dollar that would cost you millions of dollars to shoot what do you want a stadium full of people you want zombies you want car crashes you want playing whatever you want they got it and and it looks as real as it gets you want a fight scene between a werewolf and a drat and dracula you got it but i but i think i think what's going to happen is people aren't going to gravitate towards that you're going to realize that you've half fast it it took you 30 minutes of typed that into chat GPT or where the fuck it is AI and people are it's not going to sell until

until you can't tell you're always going to be able to tell i don't think you can because i get they're going to require some sort of watermark or something that you know it's AI and people have to put that in the law though is what i'm saying that's what it looks like they're going to start doing yeah there's going to be some laws it's just that can be open-ended because you can't because then people can't if there's no laws then then people start using what they're doing now they start using rogan to advertise this or that that so you can't have that no you can't use the name and likeness of people and not pay them but they'll create there's this actress tilly norwood who is not even real and is getting no no no do that yeah do that do that that that's going to be short so short

lived because the the the actual audience who gives the fuck is going to go no no no we don't want that what i would say is human beings want to see real people emot and react right they want authenticity. However, I'm just saying that there are, the AI programs are going to have great music with singers that are going to blow your fucking mind. They're going to have actors that are just as good. They already do. And that's the problem. Yeah. And they're beautiful. And you're going to fall in love with them. And I think that this is. I think you're wrong. I think a small minority is going to fall in love with them. But the people actually paying to, for, the product and to see what the movie they're going to start going away from AI so rogan was listening rogan puts this this song on and it's called many men i know and i was and you guys won't shut up about it still no but it's all right stop stop i said what the fuck is this this is amazing and he goes yeah it is and it's AI and i went well that guy has as good a blues voice as anything i've ever heard and that's an objective fact so but it's not real bry it doesn't matter it does though no it

doesn't. I know you think it does, but guess what? As kids grow up with that, I promise you, AI is going to be such a massive disruptor. Oh, no, it's going to be a disruptor for sure. But then kids are going to like, oh, I don't want to see it in concert. Go? What are you going to do? Well, how are you going to see it? What are you going to do? Live performance will never be yeah. So you guys are actually both, right? But here's what I would say. Like, the only thing that I think is going to be weird is trying to replace actors. Now, voice actors, you could do it all day. voice actors like for cartoons and narrating they're fucked that's fine yeah I mean that's not fine but that's where they could you know we we don't care and now you do anime like Sora has

anime now Sora too the anime is like you're like oh my god like it's just so disconcerting man but the music when you said the music stuff the reason that matters is because me like let's say I make a movie I want to use music that's awesome I don't need to hire this expensive person that's you know really good just through AI boom yeah good to go And that's where AI is going to really kill it. Especially voiceover. I think voiceover is going to be a problem. But, yeah, I don't know, man.

It's getting better and better. You're not going to be able to tell the difference. I can't tell the difference in some more. I can't tell the difference now. It's like, you have to be like, wait, let me look at her hands. But I'm telling you, I'm in it with my commercial business. Yeah. I'm watching it.

It's like, what the fuck? So. All righty. This is just real housewise. of UFC stuff. So Ilya and his wife, the one that had his back saying like he'll I don't care about his social life or his personal life. She's super pretty. But apparently they removed each other from their social media. So that's fine. That's just something in the news. Yeah. This is also another interesting thing. So remember last time Uncle I have and Alex

pretty far? He said he had a broken rib and all this shit. So now Uncle I was saying that he was injured 20 days before and they have some sort of proof. Rib injury. Yeah. Makes sense. no one goes to no fight 100% broken ribs pretty tough though guys have done before and one yeah so some of his team said not to do it but the majority said to do the fight and that's what happened

either way you ain't in the rematch I mean they're not going to want to they can figure out all they want it's not happening uh we never talked about PDD right his sentencing what do you have four years A little over four years. So four years.

Because they wanted 11. The other one wanted. First guy to ever get that, by the way. And remember, he was also convicted of, of, so he paid the male actors $10,000 to come and fuck. And they were, they were posing as victims, too, because they want money. Oh, wow. So those male actors who got $10,000 to come and fuck, I don't believe they were victimized. They were grown men who were professionals.

Those poor guys were to have sex with the hottest gals in the world. get the fuck out of here that's going to be appealed so what exactly this is going to be appealed he was he was he's going to have a bunch of civil cases he's the first guy he's the first guy to get uh convicted i believe and put in jail over the man act the man act is transporting somebody over state lines for sex okay um and it was just that the the judge wanted to send a message and say i'm going to teach you a lesson i guarantee this is going to be appealed i guarantee that they will this guy's a piece of shit

so I think it's great that he's going to go to jail but I guarantee that the case itself is not strong enough to hold him there for 50 months you don't think so no I think it's going to be appealed because the men who you can't bring those men who got $10,000 and flew of their own volition as adults

you can't make them victims that's ridiculous that's so silly and by the way the reason I So they say today's dog and pony show, while interesting and funny at times, didn't move the judge at all, as he surely had it in his mind before he came onto the bench today, was he was giving comb 50 months. Not a horrible sentence at all,

but time served was never a realistic prospect. At the end of the day, as bad as come to behavior was, it was never clear what federal law he violated. If any, the attorney added, and 50 months in jail, a lot of it in one of the worst prisons of America is a really serious punishment. No, I agree. He's a charge and transportation and engaged in prostitution.

I don't think you can find anybody who's actually done jail time until him. But listen, when you see what he did to Cassie, when you see what a scumbag he is, he's, he's, he's, it's like there's no, I don't, I don't shed any tears over this. I just don't like when, when judges, you know, when, when the law isn't actually. So he's guilty of transportation to engage in prostitution. Yeah. Which I think it's a stupid law, but. but he was just trying to he was the judge was trying to send a message to the victim saying

I know this sucks and he's basically going to get off but and he will I think there'll be appeal you won't serve anytime you don't think I'll win this appeal and serve maybe half half probably a minimal sentence remember nobody ever serves a sentence for the man act nobody nobody doesn't jail time for the man violating the man act but how long till he can appeal it was an old school law that can i was stop trying to stop ironically white slavery quote unquote but how long can it does he have can to appeal this takes a while to appeal yeah yeah he's been locked in that terrible prison for a hot second uh yeah probably six months he's been there for a year it sucks no he's been in jail he hasn't been in prison prison he's getting transferred to prison

yeah he'll be there for a good long time did he since an appeal timeline is undetermined sports have only announced their intention to appeal yeah it takes a while I mean it's gonna take a hot fucking set yeah it's he's not a happy camper no but also do your penance do your penance bro

but he's been in there over a year now yeah I think three years yeah this guy sucks though this guy is a shithead of the highest order says appeal timeline typically six to eight months it's not going to be about a year yeah it's going to take a hot

second yeah do you guys think we're heading towards um it's a somewhat legalization of prostitution like in some way not depends on no we're getting more conservative people are going to church but you know who knows it'll it'll it'll always going to ebb and flow I think two consulting adults want to fuck yeah it's so stupid then get out of here state law requires tennessee public school teachers to teach gun safety starting kindergarten that's what that's where it's kind of shocking about gun safety though but it's good because people yeah kids do find sometimes kids find guns in the household for sure and then yeah so it's just good for them to start learning in an early age yeah you just got to hope

the teacher knows a thing too about his way around a gun exactly that's a huge deal and some teachers they'll always tell you in a gun drop it's you can have a safety on it it's oh teachers be forced into the role of armed guards required to undergo 40 hours of training. Wow. Pass the psychological evaluation. That's cool. Again, not a terrible idea.

That's not a bad idea. Would you guys want your teachers, your kids' teachers to be? If they were trained. If they had 40 hours of training, yeah. And psychological evaluation. You got to have somebody who, it's really hard. The psychological one is, when somebody's there with a gun, your ability to pull a gun, that mindset of teaching children and then actually being

willing to kill somebody, very different. Yes. It's, it's a, I'd rather have armed guards that are trained. at my school. Yeah, they have been in some combat. Not teachers, but arm guards who are trained. But even with, you've guys been trained before, right?

Yeah, right? So I've had, I was trained since I was a little kid. Even this past weekend, my brother was in town, I know all, I know everything. And I shot up, shooting, shooting. And then one of the shells landed inside my shoe. And burn the crap out. So I literally pulled the gun out like this,

but you're not supposed to, you got to leave it right here. A thousand examples of that. And not only that, but like when somebody's trying to kill you with a gun and that noise. You don't know how you're going to react Unless you have trained for that You don't rise to the occasion You sink to the level of your training

So Okay I think we're good You're going to be a B Buddy I will be All over the place I'm going to just go to Briankellen.com

And I'll be in Vancouver Vancouver Plano Texas number of 21, 22 So Escondido Escondido I don't know what that is Where is that?

I don't even know why I'm there. Asking Dito, California, October 17th, 18th, bud. I don't think so. That's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Are they selling tickets? Let me see. Well, you're on their website.

Grand Comedy Club. I don't even know where that is. You know where Askin Dito is. Yeah, but I never signed up for that. 6.30 and 845? I don't even know what that is. I got to look at that. That's the crazy shit.

I've never heard of that. I don't have any kind of a confirmation for that. That's not good. Wow, that's weird. All right, kids, love you. That's it. Also, Patreon, I want to make sure. Yes, get you some on Patreon.

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