The Fighter & The Kid - TFATK x Mike Catherwood at Drinkin' Bros Studios | TFATK Ep. 917

Episode Date: August 10, 2023

Mike Catherwood is back on Fighter and the Kid with Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen but this time it's in Austin at the Drinkin Bro's Podcast Studio. House Of Macadamias - For a limited time, Fighter and the Kid listeners a free box of 45% macadamia snack bars - one of each flavor - when you visit houseofmacadamias.com/tfak plus 20% off your entire order with code TFAK

Yes we did, cause we back at it again. It's the fight only again. This is really the fight on the kid. Come on, baby. My catter would, our guest, our friend of the show, our longtime friend Austin Locals. Not Austin Locals, but he's out in the outskirts of Austin on a farm with 70 animals.

I don't know if you know this. Yeah, I know. You're talking about a man who is got Gini Fowl. Don't even know what those are, the Jack Turk he's apparently small. He's got chickens, he's got goats, he's got two donkeys, he's got two great Pyrenees, those are dogs, bring up a great Pyrenees, got two of them,

they keep the coyotes from wiping yeah. But I like that you came to Texas and you did Texas style. You're not like, you know, you're not in some high rise, they're like in the trendy community, like you came to Texas and you did Texas style. You're not like, you're not in some high rise, or like in the trendy community, like you came to Texas and you're like yelling people to get off your porch. Oh, thank you. You're far from strong, you're country strong.

Yeah, and there's, especially considering how many people like from coastal towns came to Austin, and they essentially just live the same life in California on Congress Street. Yeah, it makes sense. No, we came to Texas and wanted to, and we admittedly were like larping for the first six months.

And now I feel like I'm, I can legitimately talk about being a farmer. You got your skin. You don't have sunblock. Your skin can take the sun. You can take the rays. I've never worn suntimes. No, you got that.

I don't believe it. Good Mexican, good Mexican genetics with that wonderful hair. Thank you sir. So, sunscreen's a scam, right? Is it not for me, not for guys like me, I get toasty right? I hear a lot of really credible people say that, but I always like to remind myself, especially if I'm gonna say it to a broadcast.

I'm so fucking dumb. Like, I am not the right person to say any of that. Like, the mercury in it, but I don't know, I don't know if I can know. I just know that since I was a little kid, I never put anything on my skin. I don't even like the feeling of like, I can't do that. I can't do that.

I'm not the one who, both you boys can sit in the sun forever. You guys got some dark, dark, big brown hair. Got a light hair, got a lot of melanin, couple brown hair. Couple of brown hair. Couple of brown hair. Now listen, now I need to know more. Got a light hat got a lot of melanin couple brown browns over come brownies now listen now Now I need to know more. I'm I'm fascinated with the idea that you're actually out there in this heat

Yeah, feeding animals Betrolling your grounds with your Pyrenees and keeping the coyotes at bay. Are you looking at that? Are you eating animals too? Look at that great Pyrenees. That's what he has. Oh, no a Pyrenees are exciting buddy We yeah, we have to hey everyone does. I don't think so. Oh, no, a pair of knees, those are exciting, buddy. Okay, everyone does. I don't think so. Oh yeah, most people. Dogs, yeah. Most people aren't like, oh yeah, great pair of knees.

Yeah. That's a giant, look at that thing. But are you killing animals too? Not our own. I killed the other ones that come on the land to get my animals. Like what? Like what were we talking about here?

Kioes, most Kioes, and I don't like to shoot at birds because I'm not, I've worked at it to be better, but I'm not super comfortable with my accuracy. So I don't wanna shoot in the air. Get a machine with that with a bow and arrow. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm from Horsback, but that's because I studied it in a real-end. I do it in a month.

But I am. Yeah, you do it in the spare. Before we got the Pyrenees, we've only had them about eight months, Wailin and and Willie brothers. I Had to shoot lots of coyotes. Yeah, really but the birds are they that big of a the birds are way bigger in my opinion because Coyotes they kind of live the same way we do they walk on feet and they have to be on land and they have I The birds are so the owls and some of these birds are so effective at being predators.

They got one of my indoor dogs, not the great pair of knees, but we have indoor dogs as well. They're normal people dogging. That owl got your dog on. And even the vet said, like I don't, it's by the grace of God that this thing lived. They got it and the claws went in its neck and ripped it

and the sound, I'll never forget. I mean, it's honestly, I hate to sound like a big whim, but the sound he was making when it was attacking him, I'll never, it was the thing of your nightmare. We did eat you blood. Yeah, it was the thing of your nightmare. I'm kind of dog. Like a little terrier, like a jackal.

You can't have that, huh? Cause a bird of prey grabs it and he go or something or a pig. It was, we, you know, professionals like looked at the cuts and stuff, they think it was probably an owl. Do this some types of shit, bro. Yeah, dude, a Texas owl. Big old owls, not taking stuff, they think it was probably an owl. Do this some text. An owl. Yeah. Dude, a Texas owl. Big old owl's not taking that.

It's not, they take cats. People don't realize that. You can see it on the internet. They take cats. It's, and the gripping power, and their ability to be quality predators because of their eyesight, because of their patience,

because of their intellect, and they can just hide out in the trees. What color was the dog? He's like brown and white. So I went hunting for squirrels. They're coming after him. I went hunting with squirrels with red tail hawks. Squirrels.

You go hunting. You bang the trees, they jump out of their nest. I didn't like it, but squirrels are most athletic motherfuckers, but these are. These red tail hawks would grab them and start eating them right away. They don't kill them. They just start eating.

They start ripping. Hey, what group of guys get together to hunt squirrels? It was, it was, my wife thought he got his whole thing to do. You guys get together and start in hunt squirrels? Uh, no. I don't like it. I didn't like it. But, oh, here's the thing, the red tail hawks a lot of times.

They'll be like, they'll be flying and they all say, they see a snake and they grab the snake. Oh, they did? They grab it, or they just be flying and they all suddenly see a snake and they grab the snake. Oh, they're grabbing it. They just, anything on the ground is in, anything on the ground is always in living terror of birds of prey. Birds of prey are the silent killers. Hey, you'll love this. You know what I've been, I mean, he's, we're always boys like we're in St. Cury, but

me and Dr. Drew, I've been talking so much because his son Douglas, he's a manager now. So I met with Douglas the other day. He's such a smart, he dude and he's crushing it. You know, Drew and his wife Susan have triplets, okay? And every one of them is the type of young person that you go like, fuck, hey, you fucking at like Columbia Vanderbilt, then they like, oh, I'm also like,

classically trained violinist. Lawyers, rights, you know Right to blog post about like esoteric Like all of them are and they're so like I love I love well, man Drew Drew Dr. Drew is and I you know, it's so hard because especially now with medical stuff after after you know the the lockdowns Everyone loves to hate on Drew because he has everyone loves to hate Andru because he has, A, the capability, but also, like he has the balls to kind of put his opinions out there.

There's also right. Train medical, I think. Now, in hindsight, he's also right. But, you know, you just see so much vitriol for Dr. Drew in it. And it transcends beyond like we're professional, we're colleagues where I see it and I go like, oh, that's not fair. He's my boy. Like colleagues where I see it and I go like,

oh, that's not fair. He's my boy. Like I see that shit and I'm like, I don't know fucking ring, you know? And like, it's the only thing that gets me to start writing out those retort texts or the tweets and I go, you know what, it's not even worth it.

It doesn't help. It doesn't help. It doesn't help. It just incises it. It's not helping him. Cause they know if they can get a reaction out of you. But Drew's the best. There's the best can get a reaction. But Drew's the best. The best.

He's the best. That's the best. And you're so, so, are you a straight up farmer right now? Yeah, yeah, no, absolute. I, I, I was a farmer. What's your date? So that, that, that, that, that, in my off time does podcast.

But I have a fantasy of like I go out, I milk my goats, and then I have a fresh, got to go milk, I get some eggs, I have my goats, and then I have a fresh, got to go milk, I get some eggs, I have my coffee, and I'm looking at my hand, that's not the reality of farmer. You hunt squirrels. That happens. Hey man, that happens.

But on top of that, you also gotta think about like, the bales of hay, and I'll falfer that go to the sheep and goat, then you gotta go down to the guinea shed, and let them out so they can forage at a certain time, then make sure they get put back in the water for everyone. You gotta watch, let them out so they can forage at a certain time, then make sure they get put back in the water. Water for everyone. You got to watch as they're foraging for El Haco.

The great periods of taking care of pretty much everything except for snakes. Snakes are bastards. Really? Yeah, because you can't account for that, you know? What's on about like rattlesnakes? No, the mostly rapsnakes. Cooperation nakes. They're big.

They're not particularly dangerous, but they look gnarly and they eat eggs They'll get into your coop and they'll just wipe you out of eggs And it's like the cartoons literally like you see the the bumps seriously. Yeah, it's crazy So snakes have taken all your fucking eggs not all of them, but yes, they'll they'll get in there and they're so like they're they're good night It either or one of their dude that that's snakes are I respect the game I hate you, but I have to respect your game Because there's some most and they'll play WM this smallest hole in a in a fence that you put up They'll fucking crawl through some shit you hey, it sounds like yes some acres daddy. Yes, I'm laying just under nine

eight nine acres. Yeah, which is like I'm sure there's real farmers out there listening like, oh, silly boy, but for me, I grew up in LA. If you had a half an acre, you were Steven Spielberg. Yeah, you're bald. You're saying the great pair of nays. The great pair of nays keep the hawks out of the way too. For the most part, I mean, I'm sure the... Get off the pair of nays, huh? I like it.

I like it. My wife and I said, if we knew that we could have dogs like this, we would never have bought other dogs like I grew up always having dogs But great Pyrenees it's a holder and more than German Shepherds or anything like that. Yeah, I'm a dog I had a I had a German Shepherd my sister was living with us at the time her and her husband and they he had a police trained German Shepherd and that thing was amazing This is different in that it's not it's not just the intellect. It's a primal evolutionary, like, you know how you throw a puppy labyrinthor,

you just throw it in the pool, it knows how to swim. Yeah. This just knows to protect and stay by your side or the kids. Walks through the, it's impossible. And so are they protective against people too, they don't fuck with. But and it's like they sense it.

Like sometimes the other day we had the HVAC guy, the air conditioning fella come out because we were having malfunction with it And you can't have it in this weather and he came out and there was something about him They didn't like white fellow, but we have yeah Not a racist dog How to English bulldog get whenever a black guy came over just freak the fuck out man. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I know. You said it like this. You go, white guy. Yeah, I was trying to see what the point is. There was a little, there was a little area. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That questioning, that's a lot of question. Do your kids like the farm life? I only have one daughter, but she loves it. And then also, you know, I've tried to be really committed to always checking with her,

because that's such a wild transition from being in Venice Beach to this. She's like, she loves the freedom because she felt very imprisoned by being in an area where there was so much crime and there was so much kind of danger, everything she did, she had to check with us like six times and I'd be like, okay, yes, you can go to the neighbor's house

but I have to walk you 30 yards, you know? In Venice, Canada. Here, she's just gone in the farm. And I have no, like a dog, she'll just come back when she feels like it. How old is she? Nine. And she has adventures and she has little,

she'll set up tents in the childhood. And no, it's great. That is a childhood. It really meaningful to me. Like she lives like freaking Tom Sawyer, you know? And she's going to school out here too, going to school? Yeah.

And she's making friends. She is and it's like, that's another thing. It sounds so corny, you know, like a full on city slicker like myself to move to somewhere with a little bit more space and land, and then to be like, the people here are just so great, but the people here, and the kids as well, it's a different thing. There's just so much.

Man, you, I'm not a- I know that you gotta get out of here, but that's why I think to this, like, if you're gonna move to Austin, you do what he's doing. You don't move here, I move to a gay community,'re gonna move Dawson, you do what he's doing. You don't move here. I moved to a gay community, and it's just LA, but in Austin, if you're gonna do it, do it, man. You thinking about, you can be a farm boy?

I'm like my kids growing up with animals. Yeah, I don't know if I'm the guy for that job, but I'll try all the animals. I'll try all the animals I'm gonna start, but I'll try my best. There's no, listen, this is one thing I will tell you, because I know you, okay? There's no listen this is one thing I will tell you because I know you okay there's no fucking off white there's no like all of your street where all of your high-fascin

go out the door you can save it in the back of your closet yeah but listen there it gets shit and mud and just you can't even understand how you get that dirty and I want that yeah I'll trade that life. Well you're in you out here in Texas, you ain't living in, it's not plush grass and greenery. It's a lot of stuff. Yeah, that's the amount, that the one thing, you know, in the whole country, it's a little bit more. You get greenery, you know, especially in parts of the year. But that's a thing, like, my wife says, she's from Seattle area. So she loves the outdoors, but she likes greenery. And some conifer,

the conifer trees, especially in the summer, this part of Texas becomes West Texas. It's just yellow burnt stuff, you know, the parts and stuff still maintain around here, which is nice. You can go get, but our farm, our farm is like orange and yellow right now. That's right. And then you guys come to town a bunch? Like the date night? Yeah, exactly. We'll go to the mothership or go to see bands play. And it's like if you, if staple center was downtown, Austin, we live in like, you know, in Sino.

That's not bad. Yeah, it's like 35 minutes. Here's another thing, it's funny, because the populations increased greatly around here. But people will say things to me. I took an Uber the other day because I took my wife's car to get serviced. And the gentleman was so nice, he's like,

well, I just gotta tell you, man, this traffic, this will kill you, because it gets bad around here. And I was like, that's adorable. Excuse me, sir. That's adorable. You understand Venice to Malibu's about nine miles, because it gets bad around here. And I was like, that's adorable. Excuse me, sir. It's adorable. You understand Venice to Malibu's about nine miles and that's two and a half hours of your life.

A soul crushing, stopping go. Exhausted. Ah, ah, yeah. It's like adorable that they think it's a lot of traffic. I love what you do. It's nice because like even a lot of traffic is not soul crushing. No, no.

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Working from home, a lot of people left. Yeah, it's not as bad, but I think that's just maybe making excuse because I know. I think with some of the Advents of technology like 3D printing, we're going to be able to make everything that you want right there in your hometown. There's all these new things, even like drone technology that gets goods to you. So trucks and all these things aren't on the road as much. I don't like that. And let me tell you why.

Because certainly your quality of life in some regard will improve because there's less traffic or there's and there's more ease to to create. But like for instance, I was thinking the other day, my daughter heard a song. I don't know if it was like in the Barbie movie or something we were watching something and she heard a song that she liked. And I in five minutes went to some streaming site, found it, played it for, then if you wanted it, we could go to iTunes, buy it, and not move from the fucking couch. And I thought about one time when I was in like seventh grade, I was watching Beavis and Butthead, my friend Jason. And they played a white zombie video, and I'd never heard white, and I was like, that's the coolest shit I've ever heard in my life. We had to get on bikes and go somewhere. We went to Sam Goodey in Sal Pasadena and then had to talk to humans about where it might be.

We found it saw artwork, paid money, if it interacted, took it home and then both conferred about how good the music was. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate it more. And I think a lot how good the music was. You know what I'm saying? You appreciate it more. Experience, and I think a lot of that gets taken away. It's very. It was the same thing with my son. He, because there was Nintendo switches now.

They're so good. The graphics so good. But you don't, you know, you don't go into like a game stop or like a best bite of buy games anymore. It's connected to the internet. So hey, dad, I want this game cool. Click, buy downloads the game in 10 minutes. Well, what about how I ran technology? the game in 10 minutes. Well, what about

Hot Grant technology and I was telling them yeah, what the fuck? No, I'll go ahead and say about it. I'll talk about parenting. No, hold on, hold on, let me finish the story Before we talk about holograms But so he wanted that game downloads it and I was saying I'm like, oh you're missing out But like me my boys used to want a game again, we'd get on our bikes We'd get our money together., ride our bikes down there, we'd have the physical, like the copy, all the artworks. You'd be so excited to get home,

I'm like, oh, to him, he's just like, yeah, get it. And it doesn't mean as much. It doesn't, it doesn't, he doesn't appreciate it. Right, but unfortunately, we're not gonna get, it's only gonna get worse. Well, I meant by hologram technologies, we're gonna get to a point where you're gonna look like you're sitting there.

You, so Mike will be able to be, that's not good. Well, that's how I'm in Dell, the beginning of the technology is investing in it. You stand in a thing and it's so crazy. You're right there. It's like, yeah, it's like with Ellen DeGeneres where she was in this thing

and she looked like she was there and she was talking to people came into the store. Have you seen that? Ryan, I want you to know. Yeah. When that technology is accessible to the general public, I'm gonna fuck your ass. What? Like that the first thing. Yeah, what are you saying? The digital ass. I'm fucking your hologram. I'm gonna set you a software digital ass. Yeah, I'm gonna run my RAM button. That listen to me. What? Earth? Yeah. As soon as we have access to that for Brian Callan is getting duped up no loob The right next to me

Tickles bull no, I don't feel comfortable with A couple of straight guys man sort of I'm a That's but that's actually fine Bring up the as you see the Ellen's generous thing? Yeah, we were on the House on High Men's. We remember how we brought up on our show. I don't subscribe to it. I guess if you want to do that, you can do that. I'm not gonna do it.

It's gonna happen, that was awesome. It's gonna happen. And we're sure it's gonna happen. Let me ask you a question. It's just like Zoom. Would you rather have Mike here on Zoom or in person? I think he's a little different. It's not though, because the energy, the human connection,

is right. He's absolutely right. I agree with you. I just think it's gonna be on a point. And by the time that comes out energy, the human connection, is right. He's absolutely right. I agree with you. I just think it's gonna be on a point where you'll be dead, right? But here's what's gonna happen. My show, I can get in the car and drive. I can just be right here.

It's like, and what happens is you go, dude, I gotta do this thing. But I can do it, I can do it virtually. Yeah, it's fine. And people who are watching it, are gonna see the hologram, and they're just not gonna, it's not gonna be that big a deal.

You can do it on Zoom, no, no. Not as good. I think, well listen, it might not be that big a deal to the people viewing, but trust me to the people creating that product. It's a bad product. Because there's even from, like, think of like really meaningful moments,

like really powerful emotional moments. Like you're doing me. You're doing me. Right, in a good way or in a difficult way to deal. Okay, here's a good example. Think about you two being together with Joe Rogan sitting across, I know it was a fighter in the kid episode

even though it was in Rogan studio and Joe's sitting there and he's trying to convince Brendan to quit fighting. Imagine if Joe's not in the room. It's not the same. Brendan was probably like flooded with all these emotions and because he's looking at his friend in the ice and he's like,

and he's like, really good friend is sitting right next to you. You can't replicate that. You can't. It's gonna be a worse product. It's a true man. Just can't. Imagine stand up, even how he's like,

you do stand up, you can be in Dubai doing stand up. But I don't have that Personal I can't feel the energy of the room. I was that I was that Coachella for and now granted that was Ten years ago whatever so technology probably gotten so much better But I was at the Coachella where they brought out two-pock all of a grand Yeah, it wasn't that Watch watch this Ellen thing just bring this up for say watch this

It's really well. This is this she's standing in a box and it looks crazy real That's she's standing now now they're all here and they're like what now they don't think she can see her They she starts talking and then she says you're wearing a you're on a yellow top watch she goes what am I wearing? See oh my god, so she's looking at them She says, you're wearing a yellow top watch. She goes, what am I wearing? See? Oh my God. So she's looking at them. I mean, she's clearly a hologram, yeah. But did you see it?

I went to a studio. Did you see how he did it? I was like, that looks as real as it gets. It's a 3D thing. Well, the deep fakes are getting to the point where I'm really concerned. And I think it's fun. The other day, they got me.

I was watching this, scrolling through YouTube and I saw headline is like, Rogan finally opens up about the problem with the UFC, right? And I'm like 45 seconds into this video, like, I can't believe he's saying that, how can you pay this much for ESPN plus and not even get the money, you know what I'm saying?

Then I have to pay more for a pay review and I'm like this is This is crazy that he's just going and it's all The biggest word to me, man. Yeah, but that's also the the the strike with the actors too, right? Like the the digital and all that stuff, which is fair if I'm if I was an actor I could see but to me But and I can't speak to how hard it must be to be a performer and then think about someone replacing you that's not real. Nightmare. But, much like what we were talking about, the broadcasting aspect of you sitting next

to, there's no AI good enough to be Tarantino. You know what I'm saying? I think you will start to appreciate the standards of things, of people who do something really well. There's no, you can get an AI to make a Taylor Swift song, okay? And I'm not shitting on Taylor Swift, I love pop. People who can write good pop songs and so great, but you can get that. There's no, you can't replicate the talking heads or, you know, people who are gonna, or Vivaldi. Well, I think the, the creams go gonna rise to the top it's gonna separate

everybody from the one of the things one of the things is that they they want I guess access to your likeness right so they want to be able to take your life and not pay you yeah that's what I can't get to do that with video games how are they gonna say they can do that with virtual shows that's ridiculous yeah it you know, the whole thing is very skipped because that's a concern. It's my wife's an actor, right? It's a concern. And I sympathize. But above all that, like we should look at the big picture, is that if technology gets good enough where you can have Joe Biden,

unbelievably saying, well, Vladimir Putin's a dictator and we're gonna blow him up. And it's what we have to do from the White House press room. It's like, oh, where are we going with? You like they get really bad. China is clearly a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a we need to a race last night with with Alex and Eddie and Joe the part of the argument was that we just didn't know nobody knew where to look for it really reliable truth like everybody had a different idea

if you say something and you make an argument they go well where'd you get that from and so the sources are the source that I'm citing is dismissed because we don't know what's real there's confirmation bias so if I believe that Biden's a lizard person, I can find a group that's gonna send me information that confirms that. And even worse, because yeah, confirmation bias,

but confirmation bias has been happening since modern media's existed. It's certainly not all of it. What concerns me more is that justifiably, if you're like really left leaning and you get some hard facts about something that contradicts what you believe in, you just go, well, I don't, that's fake.

And if you're super right wing, I've seen it happen before and you get some facts about crime statistics that go again. So you're like, well, yeah, but that's, who gave you that? It came from CNN, exactly. Totally fake. Everything becomes questionable. all you know i did

remember i cited that thing i heard the sky talking about how the five cities you take all the five cities of up with gun violence in the state to take the certain five cities out of the equation we're not couple of like number of hundred and eighty nine that's not true

it's not true bullshit statistic and it's just it doesn't it's not true well It's not true. It's a bullshit statistic. And it's just, it doesn't, it's not true. Well, here's what is true. And I cited it. Here's what is true. And this, I would love, you know, if it's, I actually hope it's not true, but I've done a considerable amount of looking into it.

You see guns, statistics in America compared to other civilized, what we look at as like advanced countries. It's insane. It's insane, yeah. But then, look how many of them are self-inflicted. That's right. And do you have to bring that into account? And I'm not like, I'm a gun owner.

I'm a big believer in freedom to own guns and second amendment. But I'm not someone who's like an ideologue about it. But I will say more concerning to me than dunking on someone who wants to present me with gun statistics is like, yeah, wait, why are we arguing? There's that many people fucking eating guns in this country. Well, that's a distraction.

That's a real mess. To me, that's not an issue of the guns, it's an issue of the person. And the same thing. Also try to shim my hometown. You guys, okay, listen, not only, you're gun owner, aren't you? Yes, both of you.

Yeah, I'm a second amendment guy. Big time. But I will say this, if you take out suicide and gang violence, if you take out suicide and gang violence, if you take out those two big ones, those are very big. That's another thing that I think is like secretly kind of even more racist than even people want to give a credit for. In the sense that whenever there's a mass shooting,

well like one that catches the news, right? Yeah. So it was a like that. Well, it usually will be. But and then there's this debate that heats up and the view to, you know, Rachel Maddo, everyone's talking about this and how it's the guns or it's the meds. And I was like, in the time that we've been talking about this, four black guys are dead

in Oakland or Baltimore. Every day. And I was like, you really now want wanna talk about the mass amount of gun violence because there was this publicized shooting at a concert or school or something. Which is a travesty bit. But let's really look at the gun problem. So much, it is people of color in certain cities

shooting each other. Dan, Dan Halloway, you probably know a lot about this. I feel like. I do yell. Can you give us some insight on that? Because every time I talk, when I talk about guns, I'll get a dude like you who will educate the shit out of me because what happens is you and I'll have these things.

I'll be like, well, gun control, reasonable gun control. We should have background checks. And then I'll get people who really understand the debate. And they're on the second amendment side, and I get school. So I don't want to- But say you're having background checks, not pro-second amendment. Yeah, give us, give us some- I'll go through these in the order that you brought out.

So the first point is that the vast majority of gun homicides or suicide, right? That's correct. It's like 65%. Jesus. Seriously, I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir, but think, put that into consideration. Sure, yeah. There's that many fucking people killing themselves with a gun.

And that would be, that's a larger issue of depression, mental health, lost a breakdown, family, all that stuff. And I mean this with the utmost respect, you know how much, what percentage of those, of that 65% is fucking veterans? A lot. It's fucking brings a tearier. Right, it's a fact. It's fucking brings a tear here. Right. It's a fact. Yeah, it's quite a few and it's also mostly, well, it's almost entirely men. It's all really as well. So very few women shoot

themselves. To the other point about the racism, aspect, I think you're, I've said that for years. Right. So we spend most of our political capital talking about so-called assault rifles, which is not even a real thing. But let's say it is, right? We talk about rifles that I think they account for less than 2% of all gun homicides, like hammers kill more people than rifles in history, yes. Then AR-15s, exactly. But, and I think about 69% of gun homicides that are not suicide are committed by handguns

in inner cities. Right? So we have problems. It's there's there's certainly a problem there. Here's here's the thing the last thing you said about background checks. I think that everybody who can hear the sound of my voice right now probably knows somebody that should not own a fucking gun. Right. Yeah. We all know at least one guy. But we're in a shot. But who are we going to put a large of, you know, deciding who that is, the state, the government.

Have we did that with that power before you do that with cars, though, that's what I'm with. That's wrong. Do you want to give the government that control? Yeah, fuck that. We do have state has cars not a constitutionally protected right either. Right. Yeah that's that's the thing. Yeah, who's gonna dictate whether you're healthy or not for a gun? That's a huge, but fucking beyond that.

But here, did you say, hey, if you're on antidepressants, you're not allowed to have a gun. If you're on certain medications, it does cause a red flag where you can't just go by AR-15. Who decides that? That's it. Who decides it is the question?

Yes, for us. How do you define metatop1 because do you know how many you have any cops and veterans are on ss r i's to deal with yes the life they live so that's what you can't say that crack a few extra no i agree with you that that that that that that that when you how you define not only mental illness but who decides

whether or not you're actually a danger of siding with danger yourself that's the biggest issue, man. Oh, we do know them. And do you want to give them, because you know if you give the government an inch, they take a mile. So then all of a sudden, they get in and they get in. I would say this, we do have a spree shooter problem.

There are, that's an issue that all of us agree on. What you do about it is, right now we don't really have a solution. Well, hold on, when you say you have a spree shooter problem. You know you're more likely to die in your Uber there, port the other to die by a spree shooter. That is true. So where do you want to put your energy? Here's, here's, okay, here's another aspect that we have to look at though.

I, I am, I will say outright, I grew up like completely sheltered, very nice affluent neighborhood in, in Los Angeles and the East Side of Los Angeles, both parents in the household loving environment. I'm not trying to present myself as some like gangster tough guy. But you did math. But because of drugs.

You did math. No, you're exactly right, because of drugs. Because of meth, I hung out with a lot of neo-nazis in fucking the high desert and tons of time with like legit cholos like legit gangsters Crips I would go by crack in in like Al-Tedina. These guys were legit gangsters, okay? And every one of them had guns every one of them had Allegedly obtained guns

None of them. Yeah, it had to go with any type of background check. And I would love to see the statistics of this inner city violence that makes up a lot of these shootings. They're probably like these, the old fashioned term was a Saturday night specials, right? These low grade handguns that are stolen or illegally obtained. It's not like, you can, of course, who doesn't want to invest time and effort into looking who's legally obtaining guns?

That's a reasonable thing to say. But the majority of gun violence isn't probably committed by these people who are gonna go get it back right? Check in the first one. And that's a problem. Like, I don't think there's a, there's clearly not a simple answer to the solution. There's also more guns than there are people in the United States, so I don't think it's a problem. Like I don't think there's a, there's clearly a simple answer to the solution. There's also more guns than there are people in the United States.

So I don't think it's a problem that can solve. I agree. I agree. What are you used to shoot gouts? What are you working with? For the coyotes? Yeah. Because I only have, I'm not like,

I don't have a wealth of guns. I have two, a 30 out of six, a 308 that I've used for hunting. And I will very quickly, that I shouldn't be shooting coyotes with that. Yeah, that's because I think that's a good thing. It's right in mine who was born and raised in kind of like a farm environment. He's like, get either a high powered air rifle

or a 22, and I have a 22 rooger now, that in shooting in the butt, and they'll go back and tell their friends. Oh, like this area may be stay away. I mean, that's mean. Oh, era of a pattern. It sounds crazy, but it kind of worked. But then, like I said, then I got the great pair of dudes

and I just don't deal with it. I don't, it's not an issue. That's great. I know, I know. I hope great. Yeah. I like that. And the donkey, see, the donkeys apparently do great.

I heard donkeys are bad in the lock. Are they games? It's not that they're super gangster. It's that something evolutionarily, like visually smaller mammal predators will see them and they'll be like, ah, it's not worth it. Because they're both a fighter. They, I get, but I can't see. I, these donkeys, now granted, if they catch you with a back kick, you, they, they will fuck you up.

But they're not like vicious animals. Like I can't, I don't understand how this has become a thing. Have you seen that donkey that beat up that dude? You kept popping his ass, the donkey's like, all right, enough's enough. And beat the brakes off dude. If you catch one, they're back kick. Yeah, it's devastating,

but I just don't see them as like, I'm not attached to you. Yeah, the doggies, you always say like, you don't wanna say who's your favorite kid. But to me, I will walk around on the farm and they're like, you guys are the best, come on. Like, you said like the sheep and the goats. They're amazing.

Go to smart. But they wanted, they lived their life. Like the donkeys genuinely, maybe I'm making this up, they just want the food, they want me to feed them. But they genuinely seem like they want to hang out with me, you know? Yeah. And comedy top tier animal. Are they? A fucking donkey? Yeah. How big are they? We have the many ones that are like, this tall, the back. Do they do roosters wake you up? They do?

Yeah. What time? One time. It's not crazy, like 630s. Because they wake up when the sun comes up, right? It seems like it, I also think they, I think like a lot of animals, they'll wake up and then when they're, they're like, they want either food or attention, that's when they...

Is that why they start roostering, Crow? I don't know, because a lot of it, I think, is protective or communication because throughout the day, the roosters will grow, and also the roosters, now the roosters are bad asses. Some of them. Because if you go to, like I'll go to deal with the hands or even feed them, the roosters will fly up and kick me in shit.

Like they are protective. They, you know, they're so... Dude, Dan has a friend who has rat coons. You can buy rat coons, right? Fuckers. I wanna rat coons. They sweep with the sky. It's a problem.

They're like, they're like little cat dog monkeys with hands. Yeah, they've like human hands They have the robber's mask on it all and you probably dealt with it even in urban environments like raccoons are not Dumb and they have raised kill my fucking kill my coy and my fucking turtles seriously. Yes, bro There's a pile assholes. That's brutal. Yeah, I like it. They chewed my turtles his opponent. Their assholes. That's brutal. The turdals. They chewed my turtles.

What's her name? Thelma, they chewed her head off and her little feet off. Oh my god. I just left her there. That's. My kids were like, where is the turtle Thelma? I was like, ah, she's hibernating

for the rest of her life. Fucking bad liar. You have possums too out here? I think so. I like a nice possum, man. You know what I have seen? I almost ran over in Armadillo. Me and my boy, yes.

I love Armadillo. We almost ran it over, but I stopped in the wild. I like a nice bossa, man. You know what I've seen? I almost ran over in Armadilla, me and my boy. I love Armadilla. We almost ran it over, but I stanked on the wildlife. The tank of the wildlife. I fucking just took his time crossing the road. You know what I've seen, which is crazy, because I really have zero problem shooting. They are a horrible animal. Coyotes are horrible animals, and they're kind of bitches.

But I've seen a couple foxes, and I'm like, I'm really happy I haven't had to yet, because you are beautiful. Like you're a beautiful. So fuck up your chicken. The O.G. has that prom in California. They all, every one of you. I mean, that's the old figure of speech,

the Fox in the hen house, you know, like, Foxes are no, yeah, they're no. They'll fuck up your whole hen house. I can't have that. Can't have snakes fuck off all the time. Is there anything you miss about LA? Did you, when you were in the... I'm not one of these guys,

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So you say you miss the sports. I miss for I mean, you know, when I first, you know, the first month, they were kind of like, I fucked up. No, no, the first month was so much. There was so much going on that I almost didn't have time to think about it. You're just like constantly grinding, you know, even before the animals were there was like getting like getting the fencing around all the acreage to make sure there was no holes for the coyotes like there. There's just a million. What about the friend aspect? Like you don't have that as many friends out here. You know, like kid Dr. Drew's, and Pasadena,

not far from you. I think it's been a lot easier for me than it has my wife. And I hate to go like the gender slant thing, but I think it's just been easier to make friends. You believe in gender? No, do I believe it exists? Yes, I do. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You believe in science? Sorry. But, you know, like my wife,

and maybe it's just lifestyle, but, you know, I go and train it at the Academy, you know, a cheap dog at, you know like my wife and maybe it's just lifestyle, but you know I go and train it at the Academy, you know a cheap dog at you know Gracie might it is like you do there's a time in those guys do yeah and some friends though and I make friends And I meet people and I mean and then you one of my friends went to see you the other night Yeah, let's go to Kevin. Yeah, and um you meet me. I go to the gym and let's wait and I meet people and like I Built a network of friends pretty easily. It's a completely different network of friends. Like my friends back home growing up,

they were my buddies since kindergarten. Almost exclusively, my friends out here are like, like real life John Wicks, you know? It does, yeah, at first it makes me feel really inadequate. Like it really does. And I'm not trying to say that. And you got some fuckers who's got a freezer full of game meat and all the guns.

Yeah, and it's not even just a bunch of combat medals. And what they say they do. Exactly. You know, honestly, and you just get a sentence. And I had this really badly when I was probably like 25. I had just been in radio and started to actually have a life for myself for being in radio. And I was on the Kevin and Bean morning show.

And it was a couple years into the second Iraq invasion after 9-11. And I was, couldn't sleep one night. And I thought I was like my life pretty meaningless. Like I make fart jokes and I get sound, collects sound effects for other dudes to make silly jokes And I was like I'm an endless. I'm still young enough like I could do this and I could mean something to the and my ex-wife Who's like I will fucking leave you? Yeah, you're out of your mind and she does but and so I had this crisis of like what when when I when I die hopefully in 50 years of like, when I die, hopefully in 50 years,

what will my life genuinely have meant? And I always have this feeling, especially being around those gentlemen, it's like, well, you're really fucking mean something. Like, your life means something. And so I feel very handicapped by that a lot times. But then I work through it because I was like, well, if I just really commit to being like a great dad, my life means something.

I really commit to being a great husband. My life means something, you know? But I do feel that when you're around those people. Fuck, dude, I don't. They're talking about casually talking about like, oh, the third time I was in Afghanistan, you're like, whoa! It's crazy.

But there's been more benefits than. Yeah, I do. I'm, you know what? I miss about LA like seriously. And because there's amazing Mexican food out here. I miss Jewish deli food. It's not a, not a huge Jewish stronghold. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I do miss like a really good, you know. Do you do miss like the energy of LA? Like the hustle, because there's like hustle mentality. I miss the old energy of LA. I miss the old, the non-wokener. And I'm not even going with the like, wokeness. How old do you now?

44. Yeah. I miss when I was like late in my teens early 20s, where like a 19 or 20 year old kid has this lofty Hollywood idea of like cultures meshing and being this like new fangil. There was a time and a place through the middle and 90s to the early 2000s

where like cholo culture, graffiti art, surf, skate punk, biker culture was all, you know, hip-hop punk rock was just this lovely, beautiful goulash. And it was, you could feel it. And it was fucking awesome. And I missed that. And I, you know, so being here doesn't really make me miss out on it because I don't think it's that way anymore.

Right. No, no, no, no, no. Man, I'm jealous of my life. I want to wear cowboy hat and buy some boots and get out there in mud. Get out there in mud, get my hands dirty. Yes, it's a callus, is of my life. I wanna wear cowboy hat and buy some boots and get out there in the mud. Get out there in the mud, get my hands dirty. Get some cows' hands. I'm gonna do it. I'll make the move out here eventually.

I'm just gonna work on my father. I'm just more shit to do. In LA where I can't get done out here. And also like, if I was a single man or my wife and I didn't have children, it's a different thing. I mean, you're at a different point in your life, right? So I would say fucking do it. But it's a thing to uproot your children

who have a friend at work. But I got to work. And just be like, I got a 12 year old and a 15 year old. So I got 12 and 15 is actually peak age of like, do you really want to do that too? I know. Especially 12. Like my son, seven, the other one's three,

we got another one on the way. You got time. As long as I do it before he's nine. You're two years real with a Mexican wife. Just pound and you know, this is the last one though. She's a hater, this is the last one. I want like five, but she's a hater man.

I'm a cashier. How are you Mexican? She's a hater. No, I always get shit, because my sister, she was keeping it real. She has like, you know know a million kids in hell Yeah, I cut it off at one who is Mexican your family your mom your dad is what my dad's Irish how Mexican is your mom like Taco Bell Mexican Or like no my mom's a good legally cave my mom's legit born raised east low spoil heights

Not only Mexican, but like Chicano L.A Yeah hell yeah, for sure. And it's so weird, because like my dad's from rural Oregon. You feel more white though? I, you know, my wife and I are having this conversation. It was, it was very straight. We were having the conversation about like non-binary. About like, you know, I think I was saying like,

I think a lot of people feel like not fully manly at some points and not fully feminine at some points, both men, you know. And I was talking, I think. Is that an L.A. thing? You liberal, bro. No, I'm a man. I'm a man. Get out of here.

You a man. I'm a man. I'm a man. But I do think like, check it out. I'll show that to you at all. I'll show that to you at all. I'll show that to you at all. I'll show that at all.

Try the lie. I have to joke about it. Like, what does it mean to feel like a man? For me, it's like, I know how you have to be as a man. You gotta wake up every day. This is how a man is, I got all the answers. And today's a good day to die. But the truth is, I don't have any answers,

and I'm always fucking afraid, but I'm not gonna tell anybody. So you don't feel like it. Here's what I will say. Here's what I will say about it. Here's what I feel particularly masculine. I will be encountered with negative emotions or feelings of sorrow or depression

or worry about something. And I will genuinely make that decision. I was like, yeah, we'll too fucking bad I'm going. But as a mask no matter, that's just killing. I feel like, I think in the sense that my wife, who is by no means like a soft person, would like to talk about those feelings. Yeah, I'll say this, I will say this about men.

I would say, I'm talking broads spectrum. Women benefit a great deal from talking, and so let's just say men and women probably have different needs emotionally. And let me explain. Men like to feel significant. They like to feel important. They like to feel powerful.

They wanna feel admired. And they'll go through hell to get to a point where they have a status that affords them that when they walk into a room. They'll become Navy SEALs, they'll freeze, they'll starve, they'll just, they don't need your psychology. Sexy business,'ll do it. They don't need your psychology. Fixing business, whatever it is.

They don't need to be talking about their feelings. Fuck your feelings, bro. I want to accomplish, give me the gold medal. And give me that, give me that trident. Give me that fucking billion dollars. And then we'll talk about my feelings later on. Women, connection for women, connection is way more important, typically, with their

family, with their spouse, with their, is way more important than feeling significant. It's why when a man walks in and he's got a gun or a man walks in and he can do physical damage or a man walks in and he's got a huge company, we notice men delineate authority real quick and we just go. It's like, I want to be kind of like that. That's the alpha. It's true. And we don't have that way.

And we're not that way too. There's over-liped. That's exactly why he was pointing out the overwhelming majority of suicides is men. Yes, because. Classic. And I don't think women genuinely, even if they're sincere and wanting to understand how fucking devastating it can be to an adult male

to be embarrassed or publicly shamed or to fail in a way that makes you feel imbitant. Yeah, when they take away your ability to earn a living. But you're creating a dangerous thing. But when you were all depressed and stressed out and you text me, I was like, I'd just get over it, get on the horse, get to work. This was the best.

Frankus, you should be a therapist. He goes snap out for me, man. I never am like that, but I was sitting. He's something that's long, some shit I go, dude, I don't know man, I'm feeling fucking, yeah, I feel like, fuck today. And I was talking about, because some shit happened.

And he goes, and he goes, I get it bro, but snap out of it. We got work to do. I started laughing so hard. He just, be a therapist. I was like, but also but snap out of it. We got work to do. I started laughing so hard. It was just me a therapist. I was like, but also what do you want? And we had the most stressful time of all time on fighting a kid with all this financial stuff.

I didn't tell Brian about it. I just got to work. He's like, man, you look like shit. I'm like, yeah, I'm in the thick of it. And I was like, what do you think? I was like, what do you think? I'm in the thick of it. I'm in the thick of it.

I'm in the thick of it. Let me get through it. We got through it. It's so good. Here's a though, to get back to your question about, do you feel more Mexican or feel more white? Sometimes, it's both. Sometimes, especially in LA, where the culture, it's not just like there's a lot of Mexicans there,

because there's a lot of everything in Los Angeles. The culture of the city is built on the framework of Mexicans. And not just Mexicans, but like Chicanos, Mexican, and you feel, I'm Mexican. And I feel very connected. I feel a lot of Mexican influence out here though. It's absolutely, but it's different. It's a different thing.

It's a different vibe. Yeah, like the Hanover thing is, I like it, but it's different. And I feel that, and I feel very much in touch with it. Sometimes in Mexico, you go and you see like, like an Aztec artifact or something, I'm like, fuck yeah. You know, I watched a apocalypse though, not too long ago.

And I was like, I'm gonna go fuck shit. I went outside, like, truth is, you know? That's a good move. Yeah, hell yeah. But to that point, that's like in LA, it's like this weird like America's the worst. So I've become more like patriotic, more American, where if I'm in Texas, people are like, yeah, no shit.

Like yeah, yeah, we love America. But in L.A. I'm like, oh no, I will storm the Capitol. L.A. I've got you got me on this close storm in the Capitol. L.A. I'm like, I'm here and I'm softer. Texas makes me a little more liberal, because not me, I cook and traring. Not, yeah, you're a cut but no No, I It's complete

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Me and Rogan will go, we go. We, Rogan and I used to go, add it. We'd have arguments that were so crazy. Like at the dinner table, my girl, his girl, and then he and I'd be like, ah, because he was like, I'm not giving an inch, he's not giving table, he, my girl, his girl, and then he and I be like, ah, because he was like, I'm not giving an inch, he's not giving an inch, but we still, still some of that. But I think one of the reasons I'm drawn out here,

because I'm more politically lined out here, where I don't have to express it so much in LA, I feel like I have to defend it all the time, even if someone just asked a simple question. Here's the problem, you were never political until you got the latest call quarter. This fucking guy. My wife's the same way.

My wife's like, she used to be like, you know, ignorance is bliss about a lot of social issues and political issues. And now it made her because like you're constantly, everything you do had to be scrutinized under that microscope. And it's like, it's a little bit annoying. But you're exactly right because when you're constantly,

here's one thing I also, that's very important to point out Los Angeles is fucking huge not only mask now not only real estate wise people wise and Hollywood is not Los Angeles. I would like to say that over It's a tie over and over again So when you see Gwyneth Paltrow or whoever on the the news and or this kind of monolithic representation of Los Angeles coming from the Hollywood machine. Trust me, LA's mostly truck drivers and cops and hard laborers and it's just unfortunately

there's so much power and money within the Hollywood system. It's like DC with politics. It's like DC with politics. It's still a small part of the Los Angeles. But the loudness. But the influencers. Yeah, there's a lot of more. There's a lot of more. Of course.

There's a lot of the loudness. Like the only person, the only, like here's a, obviously like a, a micro scale, but the only person who could get a better table at the palm, at the old palm, the only person who could ever think to get in front of a studio exec or a big Hollywood a-lister was Jerry Bus. That was it.

If you weren't Jerry Bus, you had to be some mogul in Hollywood or a big celebrity and you get first bidding. Yes, yes. It's a weird vibe. But they're so loud, they influence the whole LA perspective. So America's like oh

It's it changing though is Hollywood losing its power I think what my wife and I were just talking about last night Literally like we were scrolling through like what to watch and I got her into Shane Gillis right? Yep, and so she she wasn't familiar and she's like wow wow, this guy's really, I was like, yeah, he's awesome. And I was telling her the story about like how Saturday night live happened and then he got fired before he could even get out there. And then, but now he's become like one of the most

commercially and he wouldn't be an artistically expected. He's bigger than everybody in the entire life. Right, and so I'm like, imagine what, like the traditional old machine comedian actors are thinking, like Aquafina must be at home going like, what the fuck do I have to do? If this guy got booted from Saturday Night Live, and I'm saying, I don't have to pick on Aquafina,

I'm just thinking of someone who's like, who is Aquafina? She's the Asian lady, she's good. I just, she's the first one that came to my mind of like a Hollywood comic voice, you have to say. Like, she's all over. Oh, okay. You know who she is.

Aw, quick. But that's a good thing too, because back in the day, Shane Gillis would have been Uber driver. You'd have no outlet. Well, there's a whole thing to that too, like where people, you, not so much anymore, but people used to ask me 10 years ago, like as a radio guide, you just resent podcasting to your, and I go, there's a sense of like starting on third thinking you hit a home run, you know?

But at the same time, I remember I was there. I saw it. I was not like, I'm not like a part of their crew. I'm not trying to name drop or anything. But I grew up on the East side. So in the 90s, you saw the Big Brother skateboard magazine dudes and those were the guys who went on to become Jackass, like the Jackass crew, okay?

And that faction of the jackass crew that wasn't Bams from the Pennsylvania. And so I was in the periphery and I would see the level of what you had to do to get a good skate part in a video and then market that video and distribute it, you know. And I think now kids can be like, I feel like I'm good. Bobby, you know. And I think now, kids can be like, I feel like I'm good.

Bobby, film this. And then just boom, it's on YouTube. And I like the barrier between creative creativity and feeling like you have the ability to do it. You could hear, like Corolla talk about, Corolla and Kim will talk about like, when they were making Man Show, there was always that feeling of like,

the weight of the world is on us to try to get this to be a thing. We have to fucking grind. Now I genuinely feel whether you're a musician, a comic actor, a writer, there's not that, just like impossible resistance, that abstract resistance, you feel, which is good and bad. Am I gonna be a real writer? Yeah, resistance you feel good and bad am I gonna be a real Of course it's good back because you get the market gets flooded with yes, well, shit very good stuff

But I'm rising to the top though. Yeah, for sure Fuckin we saw a lot of problems tonight. Yeah, we're pretty much solve. Gun crisis. We saw tech, Sped an LA. Everything, dude. Mike, we got to get Brendan on a plane. That's right. You saved our ass though. We wanted to, we were like, we got to get Mike here because we wanted to guest and we haven't talked to you

in a long time. And I'm very happy with one last question. How was your jujitsu scale of one to 10? You're rolling with some monsters. What is your purple belt? I am. Okay. Now your ghee, no ghee, are you comfortable with both?

I like it. Oh, yeah. I like red. Good fundamentals, huh? I just love top game guy, bottom game, bottom game, ankle lock, I knew wave guy, what's going on? I've had to become a bottom game guy.

Like really work on my guard. What's your are you training? Because I always trained with people who, if I was going to go with people around my size, regardless of skill level, I always felt like, well, I can muscle him. Yeah, you could. But right when I began not,

because I trained exclusively with Orlando Sanchez and like, homelob, and they would literally just pass me around like a crack war and they'd fuck me up. But then when I developed a game, I started to feel like I'm not that athletic naturally or limber, but I could pass guard and smack him. And I got that game and I started to work for it. Now I go over there and it's just monsters.

That can't impose my will. You're not doing that with Tim Kenner. So I'm starting to... Exactly. Yeah, the worst thing about Tim is not only will he fuck, he fucks me up, but he tells me about how shitty I am. Every... It says so.

Yeah, he just loves to put you in pain. Yeah. Oh, and he's like, oh, I'll put him in lockdown. I feel like I'm like scrambling to get half guard right? And I'll just try to lock. And he's like, oh, you're putting me in lockdown. That's so cute. And then fucking put it When I'm here I'll get a text from him. So I'll be like we're training at 7 30 in the morning You've been warned I'm like I'm not gonna be there. Thank you videotape it for me. I'll watch you guys I'll be I'll come and watch yeah, I get catch this play and be all right

Love you guys. I'll be in Phoenix, Arizona this Friday stand-up live two shows one special night Then it's Omaha Nebraska and Kansas City. Yeah come see me guys come see me at In San Antonio, Texas, LOL August 24 25 26 September one and two wise guys saw Lake City and We love we love you Love you guys Mike. Thank you. It's nice spread Mike. Thank you nice Want to thank the also thank the drinking bros Podcasts with Dan Halloway boys and Ross Patterson Thank you guys.

Love you guys. For letting us use this awesome, amazing studio. It's bug running up because now he wants this kind of depth behind him. So look for the fire and kid thing to change.