The Fighter & The Kid - The CHAMP Belal Muhammad | TFATK Ep. 1017

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

Belal Muhammad, the newly crowned welterweight champion of the world, joins Bryan Callen and Brendan Schaub to talk how its like being the new champ, the possibility of fighting Islam Makhachev, watch...ing Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Edson Barboza 50 times to put him in that right mind set, if Kamaru Usman or Shavkat Rakhmonov is next, Brendan and Bryan fighting each other for 15 million, how many years it would take Jeff Bezos to spend all his money if he spent a million dollars a day and much more! DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code: FIGHTER Arena Club - Right now, you can get 10% off your first purchase by going to https://arenaclub.com/fighter Hims - Start your free online visit today at https://hims.com/fighter O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER Progressive - https://www.progressive.com/O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER JOYMODE - https://usejoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yes we did, cause we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. We got UFC champ, Bala Muhammad. How's that sound bro? UFC champ. Has this sunk in? Honestly, not like I haven't like decompressed and like settled in yet. Cause I just been like nonstop. I went from straight from Manchester to Abu Dhabi. Then from Abuhabi here It's just like been not stop seeing people here. Everybody wants to see me. So I'm like next week. I ain't doing nothing I'm turning off my phone not talking to nobody Do you do you feel different like I remember when Rashad Evans won the world title then he came back to the gym I was like dude, you must you must feel completely different. He looked at me goes I feel exactly the same
Starting point is 00:00:43 He looked at me and goes, I feel exactly the same. It's funny because he would leave messages me and he's like, bro, you feel different? And I was like, nah, I don't, I don't feel different at all. He's like, that's, I always want to ask that question because I want to see if something changed and it's like, nah, nothing really. But more so like my family, obviously like so hype and being them all happy with it. And then they're walking around the belt more than I am. But for me it just felt like another win. It felt like just satisfying just to prove everybody wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I got a chance to sit with this whole family and eat. For lunch, I remember when you brought me to your house and your whole extended family was there. So for me, and seeing how tight you guys all are and how your mother cooks and how we were just sitting there and in fact your mother and your sister went in the kitchen, they made this insane feast, my favorite kind of food. Middle East food, like especially,
Starting point is 00:01:31 like authentic, authentic Palestinian food, authentic, right? And then like to see your father in that ring, in that cage, you know, just kind of overwhelmed was like one of the most beautiful things I've seen. And then you had to take the bell from him. Ah, you're like, give me the bell, dude. When they were announcing him, he's like, give me that. Your dad was like, yeah, it was great, man. It is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But I did now, now he's literally just going to the gym and just goes, he's like, Oh bro, I'm going to take that belt to the gym. Come to the gym. I was like, I'm not coming to the gym. You can take the belt. Okay. I'll do that. I think too, maybe you don't feel different too because My god, did you earn it? You know you look at what the fire you had to go through and this is my argument with them given Umar You know the title shot. I'm like man, you know
Starting point is 00:02:15 Like certain guys like even Leon even Leon like the amount of fire you guys had to go through to become world champions It's insane, dude said to go through to become world champions. It's insane, dude. Yeah. And I think honestly, that's probably why I felt, I just felt so calm fight week. And I felt so chill because the hardest thing for me to do was to get the fight. Like that was the stressful part is the Gilbert Burns fight. I'm so like, man, why would I take this fight on three weeks notice to fight this guy? I risked it all on three weeks notice. But now after I got the fight with Leon, it was like a huge sense of
Starting point is 00:02:45 relief and it is like we're here now now there's nothing else to fear I got what I've been working for and now we're free so we could just let loose in the cage so I was just so happy to be backstage I was happy to walk out even in the cage I was like wanting to smile just because I was like man they said we wouldn't get it we got it and we're here now so now it's like the freedom made me just fight the best I've ever fought. Cause for me, I felt the pressure for you because you were Palestinian. You know, the entire Arab world is watching you. The Muslim world is watching you.
Starting point is 00:03:18 The Palestinians are watching you. Like I felt this weight. I was like, damn, how's Bilal going to deal with this? Cause sometimes people impose a crown on you, right? They'll impose this weight. I was like damn, how's Balor gonna deal with this? Because sometimes people impose a crown on you, right? They'll impose this responsibility. They'll put all this stuff on your shoulders. And you came in there light as a feather. Well, because I think Balor, correct me if I'm wrong here,
Starting point is 00:03:35 but the pressure's not on him. There's no pressure. The pressure's all on Leon. And I think Leon did, and I hate when champions do this. I think Leon did a bad job hyping this fight going, his wrestling's not that good, I fought better wrestlers, Canelo striking, striking's not that good. It's like, dude, you have to fight him.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You're doing, you're minimizing who you're gonna fight, and there's a potential he could beat you. And you're saying how bad this guy is, he's not the greatest, he shouldn't be here. It's like, well, if he beat you, what's that say about you, dude? So I hate when guys do that. I don't like it. Yeah. And I think it more so, like you said, a lot of it was fake coming from him, like the him acting his chest up high and being like, like, bro, you don't, you don't do that stuff. You're not that type of guy. So it was just coming off as fake. And I could
Starting point is 00:04:23 tell even in his eyes, even when we were in the elevator, like he didn't even come in the elevator until he saw his six friends or teammates behind him. And then he got confident when his coach started talking to us in the elevator. I'm like, well, I could tell what's fake and what's not fake. That's fake. And at the press conference, he, the, the, the crowd started cheering headshot dead. So then he started cheering headshot dead. And then, but what caught him was that the flinch, right? He never does that type of thing So I was like when I didn't flinch and I didn't move he just looked so stupid
Starting point is 00:04:49 And I can just see the look in his eye like it just like broke him So him when he's doing all these antics and stuff like that's not you you're not like a Kobe Covington, correct? And you're not that type of guy So it doesn't come off as authentic and it's it's gonna show on fight night because we do have to fight I'm gonna grab a hold of you and we're gonna see if you could wrestle We're gonna see if I do suck in boxing, right? Because there's nothing else to sell I'm gonna see you Saturday night and I showed them what I can do and and even in the in the post fight Which again, I don't like this. I like Leon, but just the way going into the fight
Starting point is 00:05:22 I didn't like the antics and then after I'll see his his team's leaking it, but you know, they're like, Oh, he hired an F one, a race car, uh, you know, ex sleep expert to help them deal with the, the, the change in the, the fight time, you know, Oh, he came in, he actually had a bad back. I'm like, God dang it. It's not the way to do it, man. It's not the way. Oh, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Like if you're going to be, if you be on the same page, like his coach is saying he had a bad back. He's saying he didn't sleep well. I'm like bro all the people from London one right. Aspinall killed. Correct. Mikhail killed. Patty. Patty killed. I'm like bro all these guys killed. So I guess it wasn't it wasn't a time change thing. I that was the hardest thing for me all week was trying to acclimate to the time even though I came from the US. My whole team was just trying to stay awake and go train at 3 a.m. And I was like dang maybe we should have came a little bit earlier Maybe we should have did this but I was like bro. It don't even matter anymore because once the the bell rings You're gonna be wide awake. You're gonna you're gonna punch in the face. There's nothing that's gonna affect you
Starting point is 00:06:17 So you you just kind of said I'm gonna fight this guy all the other noise all the Responsibility people were putting on you and stuff you just kind of like block that out you were just like I'm here it's where I belong I know I can beat this guy so you weren't thinking about sort of Bala Muhammad the the face of X Y and Z. Yeah, I'm I do the job of just like focusing at the task at hand like that my task at hand was I was so motivated just to prove to them what would have happened those three years ago when everybody kept saying I sucked when everybody
Starting point is 00:06:49 kept saying that I didn't belong in the cage with Leon like oh man the other four rounds would have been the exact same way and I'd look at back at that fight I'm like I never even wrestled that fight I never took a uh takedown attempt on him that fight and I was like we didn't even get started so this whole fight was like to prove everybody wrong and had that huge chip on my shoulder because also I knew this is my only shot like correct there's so many NFL teams you make it to the circle one time in your whole career so that one time you better go all out so I knew I had to go all out this fight and I was just like nothing else should matter to me like people will put that extra
Starting point is 00:07:24 pressure on me obviously it was a huge moment for me and the Muslim community, the Arab community, Palestinian community. But my mindset was proving all the doubters wrong and showing that I'm better than Leod Edwards everywhere in the fight game. And I also think too, you mentioned it, you're playing a different game where there's some guys like Kobe Compton, Kamara Ousman, where they're gonna get second chances. They're gonna win one fight, they might lose a championship,
Starting point is 00:07:50 then they're always one fight away. And you and I both know, I don't know what's going on here, but you're playing a different game because you lose that fight, the chance of you getting back there, you're probably gonna have to rip off five wins in a row again. Like they're gonna make it very difficult for you to get back there.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So it's like the granted there's more pressure on you, but you know, you can handle that. But we both know if you would have lost to Leon Edwards, dude, the chance of you getting back there is not good. Exactly. I mean, and it was like to the point in my head where I was looking at it, like if I lost, there's a, there's a chance that I'm probably just going to be like, bro, I'm hanging them up because I'm not going to get another shot at it.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And there's, it was so hard to get there. I mean, I'm begging you guys to make a video for me. Like I can get a shot there. Right. And it's like, I don't, I hate asking people for anything, but I'm just like, bro, I need it. I'm so desperate to do whatever it takes to get this shot that I'll, I'll try anything. And that made me upset that he was upset. Cause I, cause I, and I said on this podcast, said on the shop show too, To do whatever it takes to get this shot that I'll try anything Upset cuz I cuz and I said on this podcast sit on the shop Joe, too I just said the guys won ten a row. He's clearly the number one guy if he doesn't fight for the title
Starting point is 00:08:55 What are we doing? Right? What do we do? I thought if we're gonna be considered as a professional sport like the NFL NBA he's the number one guy and That UFC 300 when I heard all these leaks, so they offered everybody, but Balal, I went, what are we doing then? Because if it's just for entertainment, let me know. But if this is a real sport, Balal's the next guy. And if he's not, just let me know what the game plan is.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Because what the fuck are we doing then? Yeah, 100%. And I'm not in, I never got in here just to be here. Right. I like, the goal is to win the title. My, my thing is always gold is the goal. Gold is the goal. And you've always had that mindset.
Starting point is 00:09:35 You've always had that mindset from day one. You were like, I'm, I'm here for the, for the belt. Every fighter, Brian. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Like every fighter, like once you get to the UFC, there's a, there's some of that'll be like, I've had so much. I've had people that I know that, Oh, I was know every fighter like once you get to the UFC There's like there's some of that'll be like I've had so much I've had people that I know that I was just happy to make their goal was to make it to the UFC
Starting point is 00:09:50 Then you see them lose a couple then they're gone Because that was their goal to make it to the UFC my goals always prove that I'm the best in the world And I wouldn't I wasn't gonna be satisfied so like anytime like I even lost the fight All right, I gotta make the adjustments. I gotta figure out go somewhere where it's gonna make me better Is that why is that why is that why you went to Khabib's camp? All right, I got to make the adjustments. I got to figure out, go somewhere where it's going to make me better. Is that why you went to Khabib's camp? Because you found there was a hole in your wrestling? Because I always hear you described as someone with high fight IQ.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You somehow get, you have always figured out a way to put your hands on someone's face. No matter what. Let's be honest, Leon Edwards is a high, high level striker. You are in his face, putting your hands on his face. You find a way to win. You find those openings. But your wrestling looked totally different. We had a conversation about what it was like to wrestle with those guys, the kind of pain.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Just being able to stand up once in practice was a big accomplishment. So you actively chose to get into that fire and obviously it paid dividends, but you look like a different fighter in a lot of ways with your wrestling. Yeah. My mindset is always just to keep growing, right? And you don't grow unless you're uncomfortable. So when I'm training with those guys, there's not a weak person in that group. Every single one of the people is beating me up, tap, can be freaking playing with me,
Starting point is 00:11:03 like throwing me around and I'm just like, man, I'm fighting for the real title. This guy is like, playing with me. Still, is he still doing that? You're still, he's still. Bro, literally. Yeah. When I was in New Jersey, I was like, bro, I'm getting killed by him. And then all of a sudden I get to fight an athlete and I'm like, bro, I suck.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I don't know what I got to do. You're kidding. Oh God. Yeah. No, Khabib still literally could come back and be a champion right now like in any division he wants to like there's nothing from a bike Like literally unbelievable. Take a little break B. If you guys are anywhere in the Toledo area I am at the Toledo Funny Bone September 16 I'm see a August 16th and 17th come get some then I'm in Plano, Texas
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Starting point is 00:13:20 so he's just like, poisoning even more. Yeah, well, he probably weighs 190 or something, right? He's just like a Yeah, but this time I was lucky cuz I was able to take my main training partner in Chicago's Ignacio Balmondes And to me, I think he's the best striker in the UFC's crazy kickboxer He's a lightweight but I was able to take him to Khabib's camp with me and For him to get like a feel of Islam and all those guys it like leveled him up So when we went back to Chicago, it made us level up our teammates, telling them what
Starting point is 00:13:47 we did with those guys. So all of us are just pushing each other that much harder just because we got that taste of Hibibi. Now he got a taste of it. Now it's going to just make you work harder at your gym because you're like, I still got more work to do. I also think the X factor for you, why you were able to have so much success against Leon and they said, oh, well he has the game plan, right?
Starting point is 00:14:05 Cause he, he fought Colby, fought Kamaru Usman. I said, yeah, but the difference is, and why Bilal won is because his striking Leon had to respect because you were down to trade and eat some shots and, and hit him in the face where Kamaru and with Colby, they didn't get the respect on the feet, so they didn't have any success on the takedown. They were either striking or wrestling, but you were able to put it together very GSP-ish, where you would get him to respect the striking,
Starting point is 00:14:37 line him up, he would cover up, and most guys shoot then, you wouldn't. You'd mix it up, hit him with the uppercut, he'd react, he'd be rocked, and then you would shoot so everyone's like go is take down defense is take down defense I get that but he wasn't getting hit in the face. That's the difference He wasn't fighting below when he was fighting Colby's fighting tomorrow. He didn't care about that He didn't respect their striking. So you got the respect in the striking which opened up the the grappling, which is why that first round I was like, Oh, this thing's over. He that take the, how easy that takedown was when he spiked him like, Oh, this thing's over. It's over. And
Starting point is 00:15:14 I also think because you were so dominant, I don't know anybody in the space. I'm in the space, brother. I didn't know anyone who's asking for a rematch Name one name one fucking dude in the space going gotta see the rematch name one Besides leon's team maybe even I even heard his team say it. I don't hear shit damn No, and 100 like that's what I told them when they were like people were like well He fought kogan. He fought uh, usman back to back. He's been ready for you I'm like bro, they don't fight like I fight they had they both had like people are like well he fought Kobe and he fought a Ousmane back-to-back you have been ready for you. I'm like, bro. They don't fight like I fight They both had like cardio kickboxing from like UFC. Jen. I like bro. They're trash and Ousmane's a lot slower. He has no knees. Yeah, Kobe's it sucks So I'm like he's gonna have a higher confidence from fighting those guys. But I when I watch that tape
Starting point is 00:16:00 I'm like, bro, they're not me. They're not they don't fight like I fight different and for me fight week I like to watch other fighters and like to mimic them So like I was watching to be against Barbosa like 50 times That's the way he was just pressuring them to a different level and just rewatching that fight It put me in that type of mindset was like we're walking through everything. I don't care what he throws Yep, he can't kick going backwards. He can't kick. He can't punch going backwards and Leon I said before the fight. He doesn't have a dog mentality He's breakable and when you hit when you see him in the corner and his coach is begging him and he tells him That's you. What are you talking about? Leave me alone type thing and his coach that I'm gonna throw in a towel
Starting point is 00:16:35 That's the most embarrassing thing in the world cuz I was right. I told you to net the dog in him I told you he was gonna break in there and mentally he broke in there damn Savage so what do you so if let's's again nobody's asked for Leon the rematch so we think in like Shavkat's next what are we thinking cuz if I'm the matchmaker I do Shavkat you which I think is a phenomenal fight I actually think it's a good matchup for you and then also I would do Leon in Gary. That's how I do it Yeah, honestly, I'll be a perfect uh matchup, but it's like even with chafka When i'm looking at it, it's like
Starting point is 00:17:12 He'd be wonder boy. I'd be wonder boy that I had to be four guys after him So if i'm looking at it right now i'm thinking chafka and usman. They're both in the same gym usman has the legacy, right? He was the guy that uh What's uh, dana white says better than gsp. So i'm like you're both in the same gym. Usman has the legacy, right? He was the guy that, uh, what's, uh, Dana White says better than GSP. So I'm like, you're both in the same gym. So flip a coin and then let's see which one of you guys want to come out and fight me. Cause I'm like, need, nobody really deserves a title shot, right? But so I'm willing to fight any one of them. When Leon won the title, I was a clear next, next in line. Shavkai is 15 and 0, but it's still
Starting point is 00:17:41 like you didn't have to go through the ladder that I had to go through So it's not like man. He deserves it 100% right away. I think Name wise who's been has the biggest name in the division Shavka probably has the biggest aura about him So either one of those two honestly would be perfect and if I'm your manager Even if I'm the UFC or from you what I would what I would do, I'd fight Kamaru next. He has the name, he has the household name. I'm not saying it's an easy fight, probably easier than Shofcott, but it is a business. It is show business.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It's the fight business. You know, you're a prize fighter. I'd go Kamaru, build the legacy even bigger, defend the belt, and then Shavkat has to take out Leon or Ian Gary, make him earn it, because I do believe guys have to earn the right to fight for world championship. I don't subscribe to the Umars and the Shavkats. Yeah, there's this hype behind them, these guys are undefeated and they're monsters,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but they haven't walked through the UFC fire like you have, or like some of these other guys have. You gotta walk through that fucking fire in order to fight for the championship. You just have to. That's what makes the UFC great. Can I just read your quote, your tweet? This is Belal to Camaro.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Dominated division, laugh, laugh, laugh. You beat Masvidal twice and went to cardio kickboxing war with Colby twice. Colby sucks. You were protected by UFC. Now you can barely walk. Your podcast sucks. And your partner Black Panther sucks. Bro, why you gotta hit his?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Attack is acting. He had to go there too? Ten seven rounds. Damn. Dude. Damn. Dude. He went after everybody. He went after Masvidal. He went after Colby. Yeah, go there to ten seven rounds Dude You can barely walk dude your podcast sucks I mean get personal like I'm savage see I would watch that fight
Starting point is 00:19:40 That's the fight like shop got off these style wise it talented as all get out there's a huge fan base back there but as far as like drawing attention for pay-per-views you and Kamara it's already building now take my money dude that's thing sells itself yeah I'm sitting there like bro don't tweet at me like I got stuff in the chamber like you don't want to play this game with me, Kamaru. I was like, you want this fire, you're gonna get it. And the Black Panther part was the funniest part. I just keep reading it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I just keep laughing as I was like writing it out. So funny, dude. The podcast sucks as always. You seem like you're having such a good time and you'd rather be nowhere else but to fight. And the other thing that I noticed when I was with you in Chicago was how you're not a big 170 pounder.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You don't suck a lot of weight. It was the first thing I noticed. You see a lot of guys, like if you're near, I was standing next to Neil Magni, I was working at a high altitude and Neil was just in his underwear and I'm in my underwear. And I'm like, I'm 170 and he's six four 200 pounds. He's thin though. He's thin but he's still way bigger. I go, how do you get down to 170?
Starting point is 00:20:47 He goes, I can do it for about 15 seconds. You know, that's about it and then I'm done. Whereas you, I don't know what you were weighing, probably 180, 185 or something when I was with you, but that's also pretty interesting to me that you just somehow seem to be so comfortable where you are and you always have been. You're just having a good time. Like, like it doesn't seem like there's any psychological complications. You don't have to talk to yourself.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You're not a headcase. How do you deal with that? How do you do that? Yeah, honestly, I just like love it. I love, just love it so much. And like you said, my size is not the biggest. So like when I train, a lot of my training is to get better. I'm getting better everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:24 A lot of guys have a camp and they have to cut weight They have to be depressed for five or six weeks. They're not getting better. It's it's like a weight cut camp Yeah, my camps are I were growing we're getting better. Let's study our opponent strategize So everything's kind of like a boxing camp where the whole camp is focused on me. We're a small gym so when I fight the whole gym is I were all Leon Edwards for you like brah We don't even have a uh, uh a real southpaw. I had my gym my boy nacho He was he had a swissie southpaw the whole camp damn, but he played leon's part leon's role so good Then i'm like there's nothing that leon's gonna throw at me that i'm gonna be afraid of or see so
Starting point is 00:22:00 I worked so hard that I know that I didn't leave no stone unturned So when I entered that cage, i'm like, I know I didn't cheat. I know I didn't cheat myself. I didn't cheat to grind it. And I'm the best version of myself. And I'm just going to walk through it because like there's nothing else for me to do. So how much wrestling are you doing? Like, so are you splitting your camp between Chicago and then going over to
Starting point is 00:22:21 Khabib's camp? Like where, where, where, where were you training in Abu Dhabi with, uh, with Khabib school or. Like where were you training in Abu Dhabi with Khabib's school or how did you do that? So it's this when I got the fight and I was with Khabib when they were in New Jersey for Islam's fight for like two weeks. So they wanted me to go to Dagestan to do the camp there because it was close to London but I'm like it's an American time zone and I'm going to be with my team since we started because we all started together. So I'm like I'm not going to leave my team unless all my guys are able to go to Dagestan
Starting point is 00:22:46 And some of them they couldn't get visas. They got kids. So I'm like, you know what? We're gonna stay in Chicago We're gonna do the whole camp here with the guys that got me here So like obviously I talked to could be if he tells me what he thinks about Leon gives me his ideas But like for this whole camp most of it was 90% of those all in Chicago with the guys I started 15 years ago. Wow. They deserve the credit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I guess I'm so naive to this cause I just, well, cause you hang off the Augustanian nuts, right? And let's, let's give the credit to Chicago. You piece of shit. His team has been with since day one. He keeps going. Well,
Starting point is 00:23:19 Khabib came up with a game plan, right? He's the one that motivated you is correct. But I was like, no, my team that I've been with for 15 fucking years did all the can't and piece of shit. But there was but all he does is jack off. No no but there was but but but when you see in that cage against the cage when you were doing that high crotch takedown essentially you're grabbing him like you see that's Makachev that's Khabib in the clinch I've only seen one other, and that was Daniel Cormier do that to Josh Barnett. So, they're first-
Starting point is 00:23:48 You haven't watched his fights then? He's been wrestling like that for fucking 10 years? You have, but I feel like- I feel like- You're trying to discredit Chicago, you piece of shit. No, don't you think, though, that your camp with Khabib and them, I'm just saying- Oh God, here we go.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Didn't it elevate your wrestling? What did it do to your wrestling in comparison to what it didn't? Because obviously, you're gonna figure your way out. Like I said, your fight IQ is so high, you find a way to win, you find those openings. But let's give a little credit to the Dagestani camp. No, give credit to a Chicago team.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Chicago team, yes. He always shows me I'm on the I'm standing nuts. No, but honestly, that's everybody, right? Because even literally every question I had from the reporters in Abu Dhabi, so I gave you the plan, right? And I'm like, not talk to him. And then every headline is why have you given the plan? Of course. And I was like, because that's anything, obviously, his name is so big is already so big. But the best thing about it
Starting point is 00:24:43 was even him, he retweeted something. And he said he said no I gave him I was a small part of his camp His team in Chicago deserves all the credit and like I said to my coach my coaches It's like ah like he didn't have to do that. And that's what I say. We're happy He's like the most humble person in the world like one of the best human beings genuine human beings because like he doesn't want credit for anything He just wants to see you victorious. He just wants to see you win and he doesn't need the credit he doesn't need any the hype or the glory he's just like I'm happy to see you happy mmm what are you gonna do if the UFC goes hey we want to see Makachev at 70 we want we want you want a super fight you and Makachev what are
Starting point is 00:25:21 you gonna do for me I mean I would never fight him like it that would be my we're so close and genuine? I would never fight him. We're so close and genuine, I would never fight him. I consider him like a brother right now and I've learned so much from him. I hear you. I would fight my brother for $15 million. I'd fight my mom. Brandon will broker the deal for 10%. I could see it happening.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I got to be honest. I think a lot of people could because you know why? The big elephant in the room and I've been thinking about this too is that you've got you know, Usman is there, you know, Nurmagomedov who was who's a killer 55er. He could cause some problems and you have to see it 55 eventually. I think a lot of people know that. We're talking about 70 though. I'm talking, no I'm saying then mocked ever go to 70
Starting point is 00:26:05 I mean there's that there's that there would be that opening but I know that you complicate things majorly now because You know one of his teammates is at 70 so and friend Yeah, but when you look at my resume like I've been I've had to be so many ranked guys to just to get this title shot Like I got probably like one or two fights at 70 I could I have a chance to move up. I am already being given burns Luke a wonder boy and it's like alright if I beat guys, yeah Yeah, there's like one or two more younger guys that I have to fight
Starting point is 00:26:34 But I've already fought like six top ten guys already So it's basically like I've been a champion already damn and so you would have a guy like one of you guys But hold on, but so you're telling me there's nothing the UFC could offer you that you'd fight Islam? Nothing. I don't think so. For me it's more so about the respect and what they've done for me that I would never want to tarnish that. It's more about loyalty to me than anything.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yep. Yep. Well, I personally hope they say to you, here's 15 million dollars, and then you call your brother Islam and go, hey, bro, hey, money's money. Let's bang this out. Oh, no. Hug afterwards. Oh, no. He'll find out and they'll go, Islam accepted. That's how it happened. Yeah. He's like, what?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Islam said he's down for 15. So, we figured it out. It's money, man. You know what it is? You know what it is, boy's a good problem to have. Like even these conversations are a good problem to have. Yes. Because this time last year... All these guys are talking my speaking my name now right? Like Usman, Bokanatsky, all these guys now they know my name. Before none of them knew my name. None of them wanted to respond to me. When I was calling them out. So now it's just funny that now they're all like speaking it. They're all like, you're the hunted yelling at like, cool, let's go.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. Hell yeah. You're also the beloved though. I'm sure your reception in Abu Dhabi and everywhere else has been crazy. Because like, oh man, going to Abu Dhabi was epic. Just to get the love from them and just because we went straight there from Manchester Manchester and even in Manchester. We had like one of the busiest streets. Did you see the video of Manchester? The streets were wild. Dude, dude, dude. You're like a rock star. It was out of control. Out of control.
Starting point is 00:28:14 It literally felt like a movie. I'm like, bro, this is wild. I'm like, this is what happens when you win a belt. Well, bro, we were running stairs. We're running stairs and he in Chicago and Arabic guys coming up talking Arabic to him and kissing him on the cheek They're gonna give you you're getting kissed by strangers, you know, cuz they just like they're like, ah, you know, and then but lousy Arabic You know, he's American. He's like, yeah, you know, yeah, he's trying to turn around. It's great It's great. Yeah, that's now that I had the bell is now everybody's my cousin. Everybody's a family So so for you is it is there any sense of urgency to get back in there before the end of the year?
Starting point is 00:28:49 Do you want to take some time? Like what's your plan? I mean, honestly, December would be like the perfect amount of time. That last little of these stupid elbow that I caught on the nose, it's like a little fracture, but it should be good within like three or four weeks. So I think for me, I want want I'd like to stay active. So if they have something in december, I know McGregor's supposed to fight in december, but I doubt he ever fights So if they need that that main event for december, i'll be stepping up for sure. That'd be great. Maybe mcgregor wants a piece here
Starting point is 00:29:18 Bring it bro He needs to get off the cocaine and uh alcohol first then get back in the gym. We'll see. Rumors. Hey, listen, I don't know. I've just heard rumors. I thought he was training. Who knows? It was rumors.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And then we saw the white powder all over his nose. These rumors may be true. Yeah, there was that. I always say there was that energy that dogs bark at, you know, like he's twitching and moving around. It's like, what the fuck's going on here? Yeah, that boy's on scene. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Right? Like, is he wounded? What's he boy's on some, yeah. Right? Ah! Like is he wounded, what's he doing? Why is he moving like that? Ah, dude, it's crazy. There's something going on with his jaw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah, I was training, I got caught. Ah, I gotta wear my mouthpiece more often. Yeah, I hope he fights, man. I know. I hope he fights. How's your weight right now? You staying good, or are you celebrating a little bit? No, we're like, we've been doing nothing but eating. That eating. I had to go back to the gym today. I'm like bro I feel so fat. I just been on the road. I like I need a sweat. So I just got a good sweating right now
Starting point is 00:30:12 So it feels good. Yeah, i'm still digesting the food your mom made that was so amazing. That was like a feast You gotta come back down. You gotta go back down both you guys. Yeah, I'd be down Are you are you are you gonna is there any purchase you're gonna make to celebrate this world championship? Is there anything, I mean, I saw the Lambo, which I appreciate. That was just a rental. People are like telling me, bro, you need to get a, you need to get a new car,
Starting point is 00:30:37 because I got a Jeep Cherokee. That's 2019, but I ain't got no payments on it. So I'm like, bro, I don't got nothing, I don't got no payment, I don't want no car payment right now. Smart, smart, don't spend your money on bullshit. Keep save your money. Put it into compound interest. It's got like a sensible portfolio. I can help you with that. I know somebody. You got to do something though. You got to
Starting point is 00:30:55 do something to celebrate. We got to stop and smell the flowers a little bit. Little bit. Little bit. I'll go on a vacation more than anything, but I'm not like flashy at all. So I'm not that type of guy that cares about anything as long as my family's good. My mom is good Yeah, that's all I care about like if I be able to buy them anything she wants. I'm happy. Yep I love seeing you dance with your mom, bro That was my favorite part. That was that was the hardest part my whole family came to the fight But my mom didn't want to come she's like I'm staying in Chicago So to be able to see her like a week after was like the best part of the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That was so incredible. That's great, brother. Well, we're proud of you here, man. Yeah, we've always been in your corner. Yeah, nobody deserves it more, brother. I'm excited what comes and you're finally getting the flowers you deserve, man. All the hard work and Brian's gonna give it
Starting point is 00:31:36 to the Dagestanians, but I'm not. No, no, no, I give it to the Chicago. Belos Chicago Camp, it's a small, dangerous camp, bro. And especially your boy who fought Southpaw for you. Which by the way, it's not the same as fighting a natural Southpaw, because if you got to fight Southpaw, you got your boy who's usually orthodox,
Starting point is 00:31:55 now he's fighting Southpaw. That's not really a good substitute for Leon Edwards, who's a natural Southpaw. Clearly it's a good substitute, he won. It worked, it worked. Yeah. What are you gonna say? It's not a good it's a good substitute? It worked. He's fighting at the sphere. He's fighting at the sphere. He's the best striker in the UFC. You guys are gonna
Starting point is 00:32:11 see it. He's had a couple of like spinning heel kick knockouts at the UFC. He's a good beast. You're gonna remember the name Nacho. Lajimundes. Yeah. Well, we appreciate you brother. You're the best. Thank you guys, man. Appreciate you guys. He's so happy for you. So happy for you. Can't wait for the next fight, man. Yep. Tomorrow, Shavkat. Go tomorrow, Shavkat. Damn. You heard it here first. All right, brother. We got you always. Thanks so much, man. You're the best. So you know the break, B. Most of us, especially when I was a kid, but even now I'm getting back into it because my kids are into it.
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Starting point is 00:35:19 See website for full details and important safety information. Hello, I'm Ahmed. The champ. Fantastic. One of our faves. Yes, really great. He's been our boy for a hot second. Yeah, and he's just remarkably uncomplicated.
Starting point is 00:35:32 He's like, you want to talk about the people's champ. He's just like regular dude who just has not changed even a little bit. Probably texting from, I mean, FaceTim from his one of the rooms in his house well where else would you I don't know to figure you're worried about that stuff huh you thought he'd call from like a gold castle or something oh you think winning the championship gold you get castles well don't you leave with a huge chest of he won't make he won't make the way it's set up contractually he won't make real money to defend the belt then he gets paper that's make the way it's set up contractually. He won't make real money to defend the belt. Then he gets paper. That's just waiters. Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:06 Bonus, but not really they didn't give him a bonus. No, no No, no, no Dana gave bonuses to other people he didn't get the performance of the night bonus You know like the fight on this. You didn't like the fight. It's how it goes. That's the game, you know? And then it, he has a good point though. Like he's kind of cleared out the division. So there's not a ton of options for him. You have Shavkat, who I think they're going to give him next in December. Kamaru Usman's there. They're going to give him Kamaru if they want Bilal to defend the belt. Cause he'd be a favorite over over tomorrow. I doubt the UFC does it, man. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:46 You think they give him Shavkat? Yes. The UFC wants Shavkat as champ. They do. Yep. He's massive. He's like the next thing, you know? So they give, they, they, you think they, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's a cruel game. Yeah. 85, that's a whole different game. Much bigger boys, much bigger boys. 85 stuff. Big, big boys. You know, he'd be massively undersized. Massively undersized. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You got the champ, uh, Drikas who's massive, dude. Very big. Now is he's big. Calvin, Calvin Gaslim who gave Izzy fits, you know, there are, there
Starting point is 00:37:24 are some, are you talking about seven years ago Brian? I'm talking about seven. How's Kelvin doing now? What's his last win a little older and you know, you know, he's young What was his last win? I Think he won The one before this last one, didn't he? Actually, let's look at it. Go ahead Here's what's crazy though your argument for him going to 85 is Kelvin gas. There you go. Just one beat Daniel Rodriguez That's right. I'm talking about the fight you miss weight. Yeah, you saw it though. You know, yeah
Starting point is 00:37:54 Good job one Chris Curtis lost his Shawn Brady. Okay So he's uh, yeah Spotty spottyty, spotty. It's weird to make that comparison. Balal who's won 11 in a row. I'm just saying an undersized 85er. Wasn't a successful 85. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Wasn't a champ. Right. So to go out, Kelvin Gaslam did it. Well I was just thinking about the. Well one guy's already a champ. I was just thinking about the problems he caused Izzy for four rounds. Sure. Yeah. And Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And lost. Yeah. But Bilal put his hands on your face, but I think 85 is a, it's a different game, different. 85 is tough, especially now, especially now, especially now. I mean, Robert Whitaker, Imovov, Cananier, you fight Heavyweight, Vittori, Brendan Allen, Paulo Costa. Very, very rugged, strong, big men. You got Homs out there.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Big boys. Big boys. Not saying Balog can't do it. Yeah. But as far as level of difficulty, I would stay at welterweight. Yeah. I sure as fuck wouldn't leave because Markchew wants to come to 70. You stay there. Markchew at 70 is gonna be a problem. Markchewvin 70 is gonna be a problem Mark Chauvin 70 is gonna be a big problem Mark Chauvin Shavkat's a fucking fight. Oh, I bet you get that next year Really? Yep. Wow, if he were to get past below Yeah, then then if below were to lose and either change weight classes or whatever He does if he were to to lose, I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying if he were to lose, um, and he'd be an underdog and shot got, if he were to lose, then mock Jeff
Starting point is 00:39:31 comes up to 70, you get mock Jeff shot. Yikes. Mark Jeff avenges his teammate or his, or his brother. That's a fricking fight. Bro. We know who you're going for. What? We know who you're going for. What? We know who you're going for.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Come on, dude. Come on, even though Hildebrandt, another American won a gold in freestyle wrestling. Yeah? Yeah. Just saying. Americans doing all right? We dominate, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Okay. Dominate. Yeah, I'm right here. I'm right here. It's crazy, Balal's on there. He, his, dude, you know how hard it is to come from a small camp and win a world champs? You go, but really, Kabib, let's give all credit to the Dagestanians.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Even here's like, no. Can I be honest with you? Even he goes, no. Can I be honest with you? I've truly believed that Balal, because I mean, because how we were talking before about his experience wrestling, and it was kind of new with, with, with those guys.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I thought Bala was squarely in. Khabib's camp all the time. There's a name for that. You know what we call it? And what's that casuals casuals. Yeah. It's the same thing with the media. Like your question, like Khabib, right?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Like that's the headline. Khabib helped below when the media like all, cause you have Khabib below like Khabib's going to get clicks. It's more than I always think of like their wrestling as this combination of Samba, Greco, Russian. And, and when these folk wrestlers see it, it's very different. They don't know what to do with the chain wrestling. You know, it's like the Marab stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And then I'm, I'm watching it. I'm like, it looks like they're beating a lot of guys because they've not seen these transitions before they can't keep up. Yeah, that's not true. And then somebody said, I think it was Sean who said it's just more the pace. It's not that they haven't seen it. It's no, they've seen it, especially they've wrestled. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:15 They've seen it. You keep saying, man, Robin, he's not degustating, but I think he is. No Georgian Georgian. He's Georgian. Yeah. Okay. He's never trained with it. You know, that's not his thing. I think he is. No. Georgian. Georgian. He's Georgian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Okay. He's never trained with it. You know, that's not his thing. Well, take a little mental mind and maybe that'll free up your mind to get off the Dagestani nuts. Get some, get my mental performance shot, get a little in and get in the flow of things. Get your mind right so you can start giving some credit to the camp in Chicago and Americans and stuff. Camp in Chicago. Well, maybe because you take two magic mines
Starting point is 00:41:46 You sneak them. Yeah, maybe that's why more clear. Yeah, I See you sneaking them. Yeah for below steam a small camp in Chicago become world champ is wild, dude Cuz everyone's from these super camps. Yeah, everyone's at a super camp and he stayed there. That's crazy crazy That's crazy. All the champs are at 80 You can say the same thing as deep a for a long time, right? He was in that small camp in Ohio You know fire in Cleveland. Yeah, you say about Steve. Yeah Yeah, there's not many not like American top team you go there and it's just like, you know a giant aka American You get all these Jacksons. Yeah, even grudge like TKOs like the, it's the super camps.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah. What do you attribute it to? Just great people in that small camp. Yeah. And the focus is on Bilal. Like those super camps, it's tough to spread. You don't get as much time? No. No. And I always also thought that a camp like Jackson's, everybody's trading their secrets, everybody's teaching them what you're doing wrong. So John Jones would be like, don't do that, you should be doing this.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I mean, you're not doing that. No. It's a very individualistic thing. Big time. Wow. Which creates problems. It creates a lot of problems, right? Yeah, so you got a fight coming up,
Starting point is 00:42:58 but then they're focused on this guy because they might be getting a bigger cut of his purse. Like it's, super camps are problems. You told me, I remember one time you trained with a very famous fighter, all you guys, and he had a blinding flaw, which was you could double leg the shit out of him, and everybody was.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And nobody told him really that that was a vulnerability. Nobody really told him, nobody was like, hey, you might want to start working on your sprawl because we're all going to fucking dig. Right? But I was so surprised by that. I was surprised that you wouldn't just be like, hey dude, there's a blind opening here. Yeah, I Yeah, it's not our job. It's not your job
Starting point is 00:43:28 Especially if your job is going to beat the fuck out of me. Yeah, that's that and that's what's making it better Mmm, if he doesn't go I'm at I keep getting taken down by a double leg. It's like that's on you, man. Yeah Yeah Yeah, well I'll did it man Yeah, Balal did it, man. The whole not fight, like my brother, not your brother, the thing is, is a fight between him and Makchev, it's a super fight. And that amount of money will change your life forever. So for Marab and Aljo, a little different because they came up together, they're literally
Starting point is 00:44:01 straight up training partners. Balal, he goes over there and gets some tips and stuff, but his camp's in Chicago. He's a Chicago boy. Yeah. Little surprise. I get that. He's your brother and the whole Muslim thing.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I get all that. You got to fight him. You got to fight him. And here's the thing. I didn't want to say this to his face. You know, I'm not disrespectful. You won't have a choice. In the, with the UFC? No. nobody has a choice at the end of that.
Starting point is 00:44:30 You do. You can say no, it's going to get very difficult. Not even punished. Let's go. Well, that's what we want to do. Well, no. Okay. And then here's Shavkat and we'll do Shavkat Muktiv. Hopefully Shavkat wins, you know? So somebody's going to get that money. Somebody's somebody's gonna get that money. Yeah, and it's in you're talking about life-changing money Yeah, I think that he's good, you know You're always gonna be respectful to your to the people that you came up with or helped you or that you really care about Or that your teammates or whatever, but when that check comes when they say hey when your agent says hey, dude, it's five million dollars Yeah, like meet me andlin, obviously we were, he got there before me, but I remember,
Starting point is 00:45:08 and then I was on like a five fight winning streak, whatever it was, and I was getting, I was top 10 in the rankings, and he goes, dude, what are we gonna do if we have to fight each other? And I go, what do you think? He goes, the only way we fight each other is if I'm champ and they ask you and they give you a title shot, he goes, you have to do it. It'll set you up for life. We're brothers and we came up together, but that's
Starting point is 00:45:30 life-changing and the only thing more important than our relationship is your family. He's like, and that will change the trajectory of your family forever. He goes, we'd fight for the belt. 100%. 100%. 100%. You're in the, I mean, we're in the business of getting the job. Frankly, if there's a life-changing part and you and I have been actors,
Starting point is 00:45:49 and I've gone through this many times, where I know somebody who's a great person, you think I'm not gonna audition for it and try to do everything I can to get that part? Of course. Over you? Of course. What are you talking about? Yeah. Nah, he's auditioning for it, I can't.
Starting point is 00:46:00 You're reading that script, I can't. I turned down Batman because Brian's not robbing. Yeah. What? I'm gonna do whatever I can to you and and you're gonna hug me afterwards and say congratulations That's the way it is if I've never and the UFC I'm dude You got in this business to fight and the UFC does not they don't play that game No, dude, like you look at Al Joe and marab like they put more out through some shit. I'll never fight my brother. Okay Okay. Yeah. Well the Diaz brothers were very much like that They're always yeah, they were they were talking about brothers. You know, I'm not two different things
Starting point is 00:46:33 I'm talking about I'm talking about like they would never fight. So Nick would never fight Jake You know Nate would never fight Gilbert, you know, it's all they were all in that team together So they were the first guys I think who who said. Nick Diaz was kind of like the first guy, Jake were the first guys back in the day, you know? But now, there's real money on the clock. The only ones I knew that actually had the shot to do it and didn't do it was in boxing, was the Klitschko brothers. Cause they promised their mom when they started boxing,
Starting point is 00:46:59 they'd never fight each other, and they're both heavyweights. They're the only ones that are actually like, nope, never happening. Boxing's a little different. The're the only ones that are actually like, nope, never happening. Boxing's a little different. The UFC, man, if that's their idea and that's what they want to do, you can let Aljoe Murab, bud, you better do it. I know it's your brother. Really?
Starting point is 00:47:15 You're going to talk to him in five years? When you guys stop training, you going to talk to him? So, you know, when Charles Darwin came up with his theory of evolution, Alfred Wallace had the same theory. And they both came up with the theory together, I mean, separately. And they had a gentleman's agreement. They made a gentleman's agreement. Lord Alfred Wallace said, I will take a backseat.
Starting point is 00:47:40 You go and present this. Why did he do that? To the Royal Academy of Sciences. It was the way the British were. They would be very gauche as a British person to say I'm gonna take this his life's work. So all of us know Charles Darwin None of us really know Alfred Wallace first time I ever heard of him. Yeah, he fucked up. That's right. He fucked up That's right. Sure. Sure. Darwin is Respectful and stuff like that, but Darwin's set for life
Starting point is 00:48:02 There are a lot of examples of that. A lot of examples. And then fighting, dude, your window for opportunity to make life changing money is so small. Tiny. So small. Yeah. And if they come to you, now, if it's, hey, why don't you fight Makchev for the same contract?
Starting point is 00:48:17 No, I'm not doing that. Well, what would you do it for? This much. And they say yes, you fight for that much. Yeah, you have to. You just, it's just, you have to. You just it's just you have to. It's never going to come around again. It's never going to come around and all these are not going to come around again. All of a sudden those appearances start drying
Starting point is 00:48:34 up. All of a sudden the marketing starts drying up because they're going to get you out of there. It's just it's just business. Yeah. It's just the fight business. It's a business. It sucks. I'm with you. I wouldn't want to fight my friends. It's all just business. Yeah, it's just the fight business. It's a business. It sucks. I'm with you I wouldn't want to fight my face all just business. I Can't remember there was a manager. I know and she a long time ago and she Had a client and she was friends with a studio a head studio guy Studio executive and if she had gotten her client in there It would have been, the commission
Starting point is 00:49:05 she would have made was like, you know, literally, you know, $500,000 meant a lot of money for her. And it would also put her in this new stratosphere. And this guy was somebody she'd come up with and he was amazing. And they were all, they were super tight. So of course he's going to give that. And then he went with the other actor. And he went with the other actor for a thousand other reasons. They were the same, but it was just a lot of reasons. And he went with the other actor for a thousand other reasons. They were the same, but it was just a lot of reasons. And she comes, you literally, you were the one, and you stabbed me in the back. And he looked at her and he said, wait a minute, hold it.
Starting point is 00:49:38 No I didn't. It's fucking business. I did my job. It's business. I did my job. Yeah. And that's the way, and if you have a problem with that, you're in the wrong business. Yep. It's cut business. I did my job. It's business. I did my job. Yeah. And that's the way, and if you have a problem with that, you're in the wrong business.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yep. It's a cutthroat. It's not personal. I know. It's what I got to do. You know? Because my question for Balazs, is Markchev going to cover your mortgage? You have kids?
Starting point is 00:49:57 Is he going to cover some of that stuff? Every time. Because if he's helping cover that, all right, different story. Does he do any of that? He gives you some tips here and there? Nah, fuck that. Life is long, bro. Life's really long.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Life's long? That's all idealistic. And you're playing a different game where it can affect your health. You got to make as much money as possible, man. Yeah. I tell you what, I know that both of you in the event would help cover each other's mortgage, but I also- We already have. We've always helped each other but yeah I've already done that. If I offered you 15 million dollars to fight him I'd rip Brian's teeth out. Yeah and I'm gonna do
Starting point is 00:50:32 everything and I'm gonna do shit that he hasn't seen oh yeah and there's a lot of talk and there's a lot of bullshit and if 15 million dollars online with my anger I'm gonna punch you right in your fucking face. And Brian's gonna as soon as as he gets word, he's gonna fly you to Dagestan and learn those ways. And I really am, by the way. I really am. And I know you do your stupid snap down, that bullshit. The American stuff. You do this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:50:53 You snap down and you do this bullshit. And I'm telling you right now, that ain't working on me. And you better hope it does work on me. You better hope it does, because I'm gonna punch you right in your fucking grill, and I'm gonna keep punching you how's that sound good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna do all that And then I'm gonna question test you and you're gonna strip your fucking belt away I'm gonna get that fucking purse wins a win cuz I'm coming in there fucking natural. I'm kidding. No, I'm not I'm sauce to the fucking gills. Yeah. Yeah
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Starting point is 00:53:14 I'm going to go find Fedor Emelianko. I thought you were going to go down to the Guzzle Daggy Cump. No, I don't do that. Right? I don't do that. I'm going to find Fedor Emelianko and I'm going to study the ancient 60 years old. Please do that. I'm going to find Fedor M. El Yanko and I'm going to study the ancient 60 years old. Please do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah. Yeah. And then I'm going to go to Yair Rodriguez's camp and I'm going to go, Hey, I got to brush up my taekwondo. Teach me the ways. And I'm going to wheel kick your fucking ear off. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Now here's what's going to happen. Why are you going to go to Dagstand and jump in that tub, the picture that they're all in. You jump in the tub and you have a positive attitude and you're not gonna train, right? Because you can't fucking fight, right? So what you're gonna do, no you can't fight, right? So it's a complete waste of time.
Starting point is 00:53:59 So you're gonna throw me in there? Yeah, you're gonna- Dude, be cool, man. That's a fucking small tub. There's not even any room for me. No, we'll make room for you. Do I get to wear shorts at least? No. So you're naked. What? And you're going to have a positive attitude. I don't want to be naked in that group, dude. Those guys are all wrestlers. I know. And what you're going to do is you're going to entertain the boys in the sauna. What? And you have to stay after each one. It's so hot in there, dude. And then you got to relieve them of whatever
Starting point is 00:54:22 tension they have. That's going to give me massage. And that's Dagestan. And then you got to relieve them of whatever tension they have. That's going to be massage and that's Dagestan. And then you take a plane from there. It could be a cover. Don't worry about it. Yeah. You take a plane from Dagestan to Russia, right? Now you're in Russia. No, those guys are fed, man. Those guys are heavy. I know, but you like fador. So you're going to think you're mean with fador. You're going to meet his brother. His brother's a fucking half a criminal. Yeah. Who went to prison with all those tattoos and that big white belly might still be in prison either way. Bring up his brother for a second. Show the back tattoo and ask what he went to prison for.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So you're going to go. Oh God, dude. Yeah. God, I mean, he's kind of handsome, but Jesus Christ, that beard. No one in the world is going to say he's handsome, right? So he's, he's, oh, Jesus Christ. I gotta do, I, what do I gotta do with that guy? I don't want, that's not my type at all, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:08 What do you think you're gonna do? It's not my type, dude. Look at that beard. I'm not, oh, Jesus, dude, please. I mean, maybe I could rub him down on oil, but that's it. I mean, the only reason you're there is for his prison days. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Oh. Again, you're, you're, you're there is for his prison days. What? Yeah. Oh. Again, you're gonna be the comedy relief and you're gonna guzzle his big Russian cock. I don't wanna do that, dude. And then you're gonna fly back here. Yeah. And we'll drive you down to Mexico for a Yayares camp. Right?
Starting point is 00:55:38 You're gonna be tired. I'll be tired. You're gonna be tired, because you did work in Dagestan. There's a lot of work in Dagestan. You cut a lot of way. I'm buying diapers at this point. If that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:46 At this point, yeah. Because I got some leakage. You're gonna be tired. You're in Dagestan, you're in Russia, your mouth is all ashy, right? Ashy, ashy. Yeah, dude, your mouth is warm. Fucking ashy, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Fuckin' ashy, dude. What do I got, stretch marks in the corners of my mouth? No, your lips are all just chapped and cracked. I got stretch marks. The Russians ran a hard train on your stupid ass, right? Jesus Christ, but I just came from Dagestan, I had to sit in that fucking bathtub. There's no room for me.
Starting point is 00:56:07 They made room and then you're in Russia and it's just exhausting, just skull fucked. Right. And so they can go from what? And then what? Checking to make sure I'm airtight? No, they don't care. Whatever it works, dude.
Starting point is 00:56:17 American. Oh, you're going to go from Russia and we'll drive you to Mexico. God dude. Dude, we need a positive attitude. Yeah, I guess so. Cause get ready. What? Get ready. Mexico too. I've a positive attitude. Yeah I guess so. Get ready. What? Get ready. Mexico too. I've hit every corner of the globe dude. That's your camp. And I
Starting point is 00:56:31 get a break. Can you fly me first class at least? No we're driving you. We're driving me? It's a bumpy fucking ride dude. Yeah and a gen 2 F-150. How am I going to sit in that fucking car? We'll figure it out. I'll be on my hands and knees. No you'll sit like a regular human being but you're gonna have a positive attitude. And then we're gonna get you to Mexico and Yair's camp. They're not gonna do much with you because they don't subscribe to it. But you need make money for the camp. Yeah. So we're gonna put you in a donkey show. Oh, that's
Starting point is 00:56:58 how your camp ends. That's how my camp at a donkey show. Oh, God. Like Mr. Hands and I'm done. Yeah. Fuck. Still wanna do the fight? No, I don't. I'm not into the fight anymore. How does that prepare me for the fight with you? It just teaches me how to take punishment.
Starting point is 00:57:17 No. Because of complete waste of time. Oh, is that what it, I may as well do that in other words. So training is, I may as well do the other. You might as well make yourself useful, is what I'm saying. Right. Because fighting, you're not gonna give much of a fight.
Starting point is 00:57:32 No. You might as well go to a Dagestan Russian juggle, all right? Dude, the thing about me is I'm a dog and I find a way. I know, and that's why, I know, that's why you're there for the boys. You're a dog. You take a lot of pain. You're there for the boys. You're a dog. You take a lot of pain. You're there for the boys.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Everything I know, my elbows are in, back, back, back. You haven't done any sparring. No, don't need to. You've done no fucking sparring. Like riding a bike. You've done no striking. Don't need to. So you're going to shoot a double on me, probably.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Don't need to. Yeah. You're going to stand and bang with me? Literally, you pick. Stand and bang with me? The letter you pick. Stand and bang with me. Will you pick literally whatever you want? Cause I'm never, I'm not in front of you. Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I'm off the center line, off center line, off center line, off center line, off center line, off center line, off center line, off center line, off center line. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. You're there for the boys. You're there for the boys. Yeah. It's your only contribution to any camp. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. You're there for the boys. You're there for the boys. Yeah. It's your only contribution to any camp.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Oh. You. You stinker. You little stinker. Mm-hmm. You little. Run it by him, let me know how it goes. There's, you'll see it's just a dot.
Starting point is 00:58:45 That's it. Because I'll have my sniper team take them out right there. Sorry. You watching any of the Olympics? Nope. Nope. Is that it, Chin? Here's one thing.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah. Because it's not a current event,, I saw an article by Jeff Bezos If he spent a million dollars a day, how long would it take him to spend all his money? Do you guys have a guess? I bet you I bet a million dollars a day Just do the math here. It's in the years obviously. So of course how much how many billions they have like so I don't know those 365 million dollars. He's making that an interest. He would never ever run out of money because he's probably in compound interest.
Starting point is 00:59:30 If you look at the money as in the bank, shut up, shut up. This is not talking about interest, dude. We're just talking about him running out of money. Just his money. She says 32. It's a, so a billion dollars is a thousand million. Okay. It's a thousand days. Just 365 million.
Starting point is 00:59:49 That's three years it would take to spend one billion dollars. How many billions does he have? 200 something. I don't think we should, that's not fair. He can't spend that in his lifetime. He couldn't if he spent a million dollars a day. God, that'd be fair. So 181.5 billion.
Starting point is 01:00:04 So he would never, he would not spend it in his life. There's a certain amount, there's a amount of years that actually. Yeah, well, so three divide that by, so it's 181. So it would take, it would take 181 times three, right? Okay. So a billion dollars every three years, okay? So it'd be a billion dollars. So it'd be
Starting point is 01:00:26 181 divided by three times times. Yeah. Because, because it takes three years to spend a billion dollars. If you're spending a million dollars a day, it takes three years just roughly to spend a billion dollars. Okay. So now you've got 181 to spend. 181 billion divide by three. Times three. Well, but if you divide it by three. Watch, so watch, follow me. If it takes three years to spend a billion dollars, if he's spending a million dollars a day, okay? He's got 181 billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:00:57 So it would take, it's 181 times three. 181.5 times three. That's the number. Check it out. Watch. Yeah, he can't spend enough money. Joe can't fix his girl's eye though, huh? His girl's or his?
Starting point is 01:01:15 It would take 544 years. Close, it was like a 477 in the article. Yeah, but it's really five. If that's the number, I'm going by that number. That's insane to think, right? $ five million dollars to spend all his money a million dollars a day and That's not including all the interest he's making I don't ever you'd never be we're not calculating that yeah We could never be able to come it's so stupid right we stopped. Yeah, that's not a fun conversation Elon's at 223 billion. Oh
Starting point is 01:01:46 Elon is more than yeah, Elon's at 223 billion. Oh, Elon is more than Yeah, Elon's number one. They go back and forth depending on like the stock and the value. Yeah, 552 billion. God dog. How much he doesn't own a house. 252. Let's take another frickin break, dude. We gotta keep the lights on, man. How do you think we flew Balal in from Chicago? Oh, we didn't, he zoomed. All good.
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Starting point is 01:03:13 12. Yeah. His daughter's still coming at him? Oh yeah. Now he's saying he's the biggest like adulterer in the world. What if he mutes her on a you just suppresses her post? Yeah. Listen, man, you may have all that money, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have a lot of problems. Amen.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Oh yeah. I think it was, what I thought was so interesting is a lot of people think they'd like to be me. My brain's a storm. And I don't think. Yeah, it's a curse. Yeah. Granted he does great stuff, but yeah, it's a curse.
Starting point is 01:03:47 He's a visionary. He takes huge risk, but it's always, always, always dealing with stuff. And I think also- I feel like you always have to watch your back, right? Oh, he needs strict security. That's what I was gonna ask. Death threats every day.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I worked for the Anaheim Ducks, the Samuelis, the owners. Whenever they would come and go, they'd have Israeli security all the time. I assume. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, everywhere. It's also, I think part of it is also, that's a cost doing business, you have people who,
Starting point is 01:04:15 you start to forget about that. I think more importantly, it's the feeling that I have this opportunity, I have all this money, I have to make the world a better place somehow What do I do? That's a constant. I think something that looms over your head. My responsibility is my children, you know And and I get time with my friends and stuff, but the lack of anonymity no matter where you go
Starting point is 01:04:40 It's got to be insane It's got his kids probably need full-time security too. Cause that's the quickest way to get to him. That's right. It takes one of his children. He's going to pay whatever it takes to get them back. So it's a lot, man. It's a lot. It's a lot. He's trying to make the world a better place, but meanwhile his personal life's on fucking fire. You know,
Starting point is 01:05:01 is he married right now or has he got a lady? Ladies. Ladies. Ladies. Is he dating now? He dates some beautiful women, Jesus. Siobhan Silas. Siobhan Silas? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I think they're a bit Neuralink. Oh, and they welcome twins. I think a lot of his babies are in vitro. Damn. That's interesting. I don't think that's her. Oh, it is. No, that's her.
Starting point is 01:05:37 He's got twins. They're cute as shit. Hopefully he knows their name. Yeah, that's a lot of kids. That's a lot of kids. Yeah, that's tough. Does he have more or does Chris Brown? That's a lot of kids. That's a lot of kids. Yeah, that's tough. Does he have more or does Chris Brown? That's a lot of kids. How many does Nick Cannon have, 11? I mean, sorry, yeah, Nick Cannon.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I said Chris Brown. 12, I think, or I don't know. Oh. Nick got some beat. It's a race. Six different women. Cool. And Mariah Carey, damn.
Starting point is 01:06:05 God, tough. Yeah. It's shitty example, but okay. I don't approve at all. Tough. If they all live together in one big compound, I could see it. No, let's say 33. Marlon Brando had 16. Bob Marley, 11. Wait, screaming Jay Hawkins. Who's that? He was a singer. But that's old then since. Marlon Brando had 16. What? Bob Marley, 11, Evan Holtfield, 11.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Wait, screaming Jay Hawkins, who's that? He was a singer? But that's old then since... Brando, DMX, 15 children. DMX had 15 children. Charlie Chaplin at 11? Do you want to hear a quick story about DMX and one of his children? This is not a joke. So I used to work, I did bottle service at a nightclub.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And DMX was a performer there. He came in and you could tell he already wasn't okay and he was holding something in what looked like an IKEA bag and asked me like hey can you hold this? And I looked in the IKEA bag and it was a baby. And I was like what are what are we doing here? And so I'm holding this baby and he's like yeah no she's good she's good just put her in that room while I'm performing and I'm like put her in the room and I was like a baby baby he's like, yeah, no, she's good. She's good. Just put her in that room while I'm performing. And I'm like, put her in the room. And I was like a baby, baby.
Starting point is 01:07:08 So like I went in one of the rooms and like, I told took all the girls, like sweatshirts and everything and made kind of like a thing and put the baby in there. The baby was the baby crying. Wasn't happy with little girl. And hold on. You're telling me DMX wasn't a good father? That's crazy. The guy who grew up in boys homes,
Starting point is 01:07:29 grew up with like no parents at all. That's no excuse, but yeah, you're telling me he's not a good father? I mean, she was wrapped in blankets. I think the carrier, it was just like a weird carrier that looked like a bag, but like, yeah, we put the baby on the floor and made a barrier and it was there for three hours.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Fuck. That's terrible. Yeah. No bottle, no nothing? No, no, and then you could tell he was on something because he started preaching at the end of it. Like talking about the devil ain't playing fair. Okay, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:56 You need to be saved. As your baby doesn't have a bottle. As somebody with a baby, I have big problems. It was wild, guys. That's where I call child services and go hey, this fucking asshole is got a baby here. Where was the mom? I'm sure he's probably in law school. Hey, Brendan. Hey, Brendan. Let me check myself. Okay, Brendan yourself to check yourself a little bit. You know where she's
Starting point is 01:08:21 at. Hey. Yeah. Have another baby. Jesus Christ. Have another baby. I'm sure he did. She's probably in labor. Oh, it's got dark. Yeah. Where are you going to be, Bry?
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