The Fighter & The Kid - The ONE Juror Who Refused to Acquit Lindsay Clancy | TFATK Ep. 1220

Episode Date: September 10, 2026

One juror refused to acquit Lindsay Clancy, resulting in an 11–1 deadlock and a mistrial. Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen debate whether postpartum psychosis should remove criminal responsibility, whether the killings were premeditated and whether someone found not guilty by reason of insanity should ever be allowed to return to society.The guys also discuss Aaron Donald’s NFL return, Texas vs. Ohio State ticket prices, Jeremy Piven’s Entourage reunion, what happened to Nike, Tesla’s dangerous self-driving mistake, Elizabeth Holmes’ potential comeback, influencers disrupting professional tennis and Tony Hawk converting a classic Corvette into an electric car.Subscribe and turn on notifications for more episodes of The Fighter and The Kid.Quince - Upgrade your everyday. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to https://quince.com/fighterDraftKings - One app. Every sport. All 50 states. New DraftKingscustomers, Sign up with code FIGHTER, spend just five bucks, and get two hundred in total rewards within 21 days, includes all markets. That’s code FIGHTER. In partnership with DraftKings.Larine - Right now, Larine is offering our listeners up to 50% off at http://buylarine.com/FATKO'Reilly - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is really the fighter and the kid. What's up, Paul? Nothing, buddy. I'm very well. Thank you. Now, I just watched your children playing football on your Instagram. The little hard knocks. Yeah, that is the school of hard knocks there.

Looks like your team is, they're going to do pretty well this season. They should, pal. It seems like there's a lot of genetics and coaching in their favor. We got a good team. Yeah. We got a little light in the pants, though. undersized. Every team we play, we're undersized. Oh, man. Our offense, the defense line, we probably averaged 90 pounds.

What? In Springs that we played, I think you probably average 120, 130. 120 years. 10-year-olds. We'll play teams that average 140, 150. But you're, you got some speed. Yeah, just coach better. Coach better speed. Yeah. Yeah. More endurance. Still beats size. Those kids, big boys get tired as the game grinds on. But also if they're 10, unless they've played a ton of tackle football,

on those 10s, how much do they play? Yeah. They get high, so the speed's going to be the difference. They get really high. Everyone's high. Oh. They don't drop their hips. Oh, okay.

So everyone's high, so you can get around them. Yeah, yeah. That's what I always say. Light them up. That's what I say when I'm on the line. Stay low. I do this with my hand. So this is what I do now with J-Jitza Drive.

Drive. Like, if I want someone like Shane to beat me up, as he's on me and I'm I'm framing I'll just do this I'll go I'll go I'll go I do that face like they start laughing he's like he's like oh oh we want it just like a tiny bit of knowledge I'll like it goes a long way yeah you'll use it up I'd be like yeah I this not that's not gonna work I like he'll try something that's not going to work nothing how but I do this let's find another route yeah let's find another route yeah let's find another route it's find another bro.

That's what another route big dog. That's my favorite thing. Yeah, it's football season though, Bubba. It's football season. But you used to be a big football guy, right? Not like playing, but you watch it. I love watching. I love college or college or NFL?

Only NFL because. See, mine's only college. So college will ruin my Saturday. And I need one day because Sundays, especially toward the middle later of the season, I don't miss a game. Right now the U.S. opens on.

I'm watching. Tennis. There's a, I don't want to talk tennis. Isn't there a young kid doing well? American, right? Ben Shelton. He serves. Do you know his girlfriend is?

Yeah. He serves a hundred soccer player. He serves. Not any soccer player. Dennis Rodman's daughter. That's right. Dennis Rodman's daughter very big. Now,

now Dennis Rodman's not winning dad of the year. No, no, no. Not winning dad of the year. He knows that. Him and Elon Musk are not winning that award. Yeah. He now feels that,

but yeah. Yeah, now he does. She's a stud. He's like, oh. Ben Shelton, you got to see him because he's six four, six four and tennis players are super skinny, right? Because they've got to play five hours. He's a thicky and he serves.

The ball goes 150 miles now. Jesus. And if you've ever seen that. Where's he from? You can't see it. His dad was a pro tennis player. His dad's a black giant guy. And his mom is white, I think, or his mom's kind of half white, half black.

Look where he's from, Chin. Ben, what? Ben Shelton. He was raised by a professional athlete for a father and coached by a professional athlete. It was his dad. So he's been. He's from Orlando. Oh, no, born in Atlanta.

He's left-handed, which is a nightmare for any tennis player, nightmare. So his dad, his father than coach, George's women. Oh, so his dad's a coach. Yeah. Yeah, dude, his dad grew up in Gainesville after his father became the coach of Florida Gators men's team. Oh, so his dad's a coach. Yeah. She didn't play American football in his early childhood,

then decided to tuck his stick between his legs, play tennis. That's interesting. That's interesting. Oh, that's cool. No, no, please don't. No, that's not what it says. You've got to put some respect on tennis.

So he just started playing tennis until he's 12. Yeah, because he played all the other sports, which is what they say you should do. Roger Federer the same way, played all the sports until he was 16. Oh, he was a little stud. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You see it on his body.

He's just really big and athletic. Fast as shit. fast. But he hits the ball, like his service, so 150 miles an hour. That is cooking. Yeah, it's cooking. You can't see it. How big is he, Jen?

6-4. And Musco. Yeah. Young kid, 23. Yeah. His dad's like 6'5. He's won 15 million prize money. Yeah.

Yeah, he's doing well. That's not including sponsorship. Oh, yeah. That's where they're getting it. They're bawling. He's currently the number one. player and men singles. Wow. Killer.

When's last time America had a number one? It's been a long time. A long time. Might be Pete Sampras. It's a good, good call. He just, Andy Roddick was number one. He was just really marketed well, right?

Andy Roddick was number one. Was he number one? And then along came the Spaniards. I know, but I don't care about them. But so, but it would go, Federer came along? It would go Pete Sampras, then Andy. Andy Roddick's younger than Pete Sampras. Yeah.

So see how fast Rodericks. But when Roddick was serving, he had the strongest serve. He's a really big guy. And so what happened was... Is he? Another big kid. If you ever see these guys, they're really, really big. 155 miles an hour.

And how big was he? I think Roderick is probably 6.3, 6.4. They're all really tall now. All big guys. Broad. Very broad. 6-2. Yeah.

Yeah. They're taller than I thought. For a reason, he seems smaller. Yeah, they're all at least six, two, what I've seen. Many, many of them are six. I just can't get into tennis. The number one player right now, Zverev, is actually six foot six. Jesus.

Yeah, they're big, big guys and big. But that thing is, that's in sports globally. Everyone's bigger. Well, if you have, MMA is different. They're not staying the same, but they're all big. NBA, NFL. Well, what they found also, MLBs are huge. The beginning of your guys were breaking down because you've got to play five hours than five hours.

So they're all lifting weights. They're all big. And the bigger you are, the more. So with baseball, they found guys that were over 175 pounds had more endurance as the, as the season went on because you play 160. Yeah. And it's the same idea with tennis. They're just bigger.

They're all bigger. They're training different. Like pitchers now are huge. Remember there's like the outline with Randy Johnson, but in general now, those boys are six four, six five. Yeah. Big cats. really like it felt like LSU has a tight end who's six eight six seven yeah it's like how the

fuck you're gonna stop that I don't know if you block worth of shit but yeah it's very very common now for tennis players to be six five six six very common and wide like just really wide yeah it's almost all all athletes they're big look at high school like what the fuck are they feeding them yeah like in Colorado we I played you know especially for Colorado is the highest you can play it doesn't look like the kids these days no they're fucking mad they look like college I went to a satellite pro. These guys are trying to get into the big. You're talking about the tennis still?

Yeah. Okay. And they're all, they're all six, four, six five. They're just all big. I'm just looking at them going,

Jesus Christ. Wonder if golf's the same. I know, I know they've had some meteor guys, but. Yeah, well, golfers are lifting weights

and training differently as well, but I think they're, they're all pretty big, yeah. Jonathan Thompson's six, nine. Do, what's the average height? Pro golfer?

You got a lot of Asians. I play golf, so I might fuck up the height. But pro golf skill. Yeah. Five seven. Well, that's female. That's female. That's female.

Oh, men, uh, six foot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you get more, uh, distance. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

That makes sense. That golf is different, a little different. You got the short game. It's like a different thing. That makes sense. Um, but football. I think NFL starts tonight, I want to say.

right is it niners rams in australia oh no it's new england patriot sea hawks tonight seven o'clock tomorrow's 49ers rams and that's in australia you got anyone particular those boys don't like traveling like this no it's always where the nfl's trying to expand it's like just make an american thing dude how much fucking money do you need why do they do that they go all these all these leagues do that. Like even the Premier League in soccer, like they were going to do a big event in Miami. Like Chelsea versus fucking Man United. Like just keep it. You do your thing. We'll do ours. Yeah. Quit trying to fucking. You don't need it. I don't care. How much money do they need? I'm watching a game. I don't care that it's in. How much money do they need?

Hmm. It's a weird thing. And then college dude. So we, we play on Saturday. Basi and T both play on Saturday. Saturday night is University of Texas, who's number four or five, I think, in the nation, versus Ohio State number one. It's a big, big boy game, big game, like top three of the all season. We try getting tickets, buddy. Really? My God.

Yeah, we need eight tickets. I mean, the minimum ticket price is like $700. Really? $700? What are you talking about? Yeah. And you're a nosebleed if you're doing. doing that. God.

Nosebleed. How is that possible? I think Texas can get it done. Just because everybody wants tickets to that game. Every, yeah, that's one of the biggest, if not the biggest game of the season, before you get to the BCS championship. Wow. And if you are going to watch football, listen, you got the biggest college football game this Saturday in Austin, Texas. You have Texas versus O-H-I-O-State, the number one team in all

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but our boy, Aaron Donald's not going. Why? First of all, he was retired. He's now back. He's back because Miles Garrett, they signed the best defense player in the league. So you got Miles Garrett and the other guys are no punks either. That is so crazy. That is so crazy.

So what are you going to do, double team Aaron Donald? Then you let Miles Garrett get loose? Or are you going to double team Miles Garrett and let Aaron Donald get loose? Pick your poison, dude. It's so ridiculous. What are you going to do with that? Is Garrett lineback? or defensive end?

Defense man. Texas A&M. Freak, freak, freak. My God. He's like two. It's huge. He's huge. It's a completely different human being.

Yeah, he's 270 pounds. I mean, it's so silly. Yeah, Michael Parsons and him are going at it. Where's Michael Parsons right now? He's not in... He got traded to Green Bay and then tore as the ACLMTL, I think. He'll be back like mid-season, but it's not good. It's not, right?

Right? No. He's a freak too, though. Freak. So damn good. Freak. So, speed. So good. That's going to be crazy. I don't know what quarterbacks. Like when the quarterback is playing the Rams now,

how do you game plan for Aaron Donald? NFL figured out. They will? They will? They won't like just take over the game and just win off that. Well, it's good, but they're not just going to NFL figured out. But I just think like for a quarterback, that's kind of terrifying. Yeah, but remember the guys blocking for them are the best in the world.

Yeah. The very best. They'll figure it out. They'll be able to get around it. Yeah, yeah. Like, don't you're wrong. They're going to get theirs. They're going to, but they're not going to, it's not like they can go undefeated, like the fucking 72 dolphins or something.

Like the NFL's going to figure it out. They're brilliant, you know? It's a lot to figure out. Yeah, but they always do. That's a couple X factors. Jesus. Yeah, NFL's wild. I mean.

now is it that has aaron donald lost a step who knows yeah he's been out i think you retired two years ago that's a real question because he retired early how old is he how old is erin don't he's he never stopped working out his workouts are legendary you know nobody can keep up with him blah blah blah but 35 oh that's not that's not crazy no 35 and his whole life has been just that standard of excellence he plays end i thought he played tackle only oh do both wow so we he's got that kind of speed. Yeah, it's his first step, makes him special. Shit.

So, yeah, 32, you wanted to walk away healthy? Smart. Very smart. Yeah, and he's coming back just for one year with Miles Garrett. Making a lot of money. What was his contract? It's like a one year, like 40 mil? But he got paid, though.

When he played, he's, I mean, he got MVP. He's a monster. He's got money. One year, 20 mil, but there's some incentives there. Up to 30 million if you have playoff incentives. Look at him. One year of 30 mil. Just a wrecking ball.

He's a wrecking ball. Six one. Coming out of the draft, they're kind of hating on the same, he's too small and all this. He's like, okay. Yeah. Okay. If he's even six one, they were teasing him.

Yeah, he might be six foot. Six one. We saw him all the time in L.A. Because his son and Tiger were friends. Oh, really? And we played flag football. Was his son, a freak too? Good.

You know, good. You can tell sons of me. Big. He has a really broad shoulders. He's also like eight. Yeah. But I prefer college all day over. Although college kind of, I still prefer college over NFL, but...

Why? I don't know. The NFL doesn't... The whole fantasy thing, how much they ride on fantasy and the fan base? I don't know. Pro ball's just a little different. Where is Cooper Cup playing this year? He's in Seattle.

still he's been at seattle for two years now yep it's gonna be good season yeah i just like college man but the way it's going all colleges is most football fans that i know who are real fans prefer college what most football fans what you're saying what is literally a middle common you know most full i was yeah fuck well no i was i was piggyback on what you said i didn't even finish what i said you prefer college you over it's pro right then i was explaining why you're just Like, you know, most football fans are, yeah, fuck what I was saying. But what were you saying? Well, I was just saying most football, real football fans like college over NFL from what I've seen.

I think NFL still watch more. Yeah. But people who like who really know football tend to like the hustle. They like that anything can go wrong, right? Because they're still kids. That's why I like it. I don't know about everybody else, but that's why I like it. No, I've heard that a lot where they just go.

But NFL now it's more like betting and fantasy football. You know, it's like once the betting gets involved, it gets a little weird. It's always been like that, but it's just, I feel like with how big like draft kings and fan doing all that shit is now, it's like that is the priority. Like, you know, drafting the running backs of the court, like that has taken priority over the actual game. You know, they really don't look at them like human beings. They're more like prop bets now. It's a weird thing going on.

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Well, he's had better for a hot. You see they did this ad with Jeremy Piven, my boy? Oh, redoing Entourage. Yeah, you see it? I saw a clip of it and I just, I've been hanging with, I just breeze past it. And he showed it to. We'd have to edit out most of it just so you know.

Oh, we will? Yeah, we'll go play this. Never mind. He's so good in it, though. Better. You remember how, you realize how, remember how good an actor, Jeremy is. Oh, yeah. Amazing actor.

It's good. It's my, yeah. Yeah, that's it. man Ted Lasshole eyes up here Kimball Sliced I understand that screen

is melting your tiny little meat bubble Slice I got there he is How about we fight I can't tell because you're very delusional I really didn't miss you

I love that I can't tell because you're very delusional He just improvised He's so good I can't tell because you're very so good Wow they get the whole cast It's everywhere for you

They're all older now, aren't they? Finally. Jeremy, it's great. I got something for you. International thriller. It's been hard to find you, by the way. You're the good-looking jewel thief, of course you are, and I am the dirty cop hunting you down.

We're going to take all this money. That's a great commercial. Great commercial. How good is he? Oh, Germany's so talented. I know. Yeah, as an actor, he's so damn good. Everyone looks a little older.

Germany probably age the best. He aged the best. I mean, they don't have turtle. Adrian Grenier looks like an older man. Yeah, they didn't have turtle in there? He's 50. I have no idea.

Time takes your face down. I'm surprised I don't have turtle in there. Or Johnny Drama, dude. No, they just needed, you know, one person, but pretty wild. No, you need more than one. You could do, because, it's antox. Well, there's more to, you know, they're probably going to do more of those, but how cool is it? That was cool, man.

Really great. Really great. Super cool. Unbelievable. Yeah, if they had Kevin Conley. It's funny. Time is a mother. fucker. God.

He's a great. So you know, Entrage is based loosely off Mark Wahlbert's life. Yeah, he's the one who produced. That's right. Yeah. I thought I was supposed to be, what's that guy from the UFC? The talent agency? Ari Emanuel. Yeah, I thought it was supposed to be him.

Ari Emanuel used to be Jeremy's agent, actually. And so he based a lot of that character off of Ari Emanuel. So. With the idea of the show, Chin, not the Oh, you're saying that. the lead out. Yeah. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. But yeah, Jeremy's just like, he's... Entourage is so big back in the day. On charge was so big. So big. I used to hang with him back

when he was at the head of his fame. It was crazy. Remember when he first moved to LA? I mean, you're talking 18 years ago. Oh, yeah. And we just hang out Piven's house in Malibu. Yeah. I got a picture of us in 2014, I think. Yeah, you sent it to me. Just hanging out at that sick pad in Malibu. We had so much fun. We had so much fun. It was fun. Yeah, that was great. God, it was great. That was a good time.

Yeah, it was. Remember we spent super. It was still when old Hollywood was, you know, still like when things, social media wasn't crazy. We weren't on our phones all the time. I didn't think it like, yeah,

I took a picture, but it wasn't like a big deal. No. It wasn't like, you know, now people have to have it. Yeah. And post all the time.

Yeah, we weren't thinking about taking pictures. Once, not once. I never once thought, I got to take a picture and post this, you know? That's it right there. Look at us.

Fuck. good times. Look how young Piven looked here. Were you still fighting then? Yep. Wow. Man, we hanged. He moved to Austin, Jeremy.

Did he really? Get him on the podcast. Yeah. He's just great. What's that, Brian? Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what we did this, uh, a charity there. Damn.

All those guys. Young men. Young men. That's crazy. God, that's crazy. Yeah. Pivot. was great.

Truly. Yeah, we had a good time. There's a show I'm watching Shards. It's on FX. But someone, this, my buddy Black Ross recommended it to me because I like serial killers. It takes place in the 80s. And it's kind of the serial killer like a lore when you had the Nightstocker. You had the, was it the Green River Strangler?

You have all that shit. It's loosely based off that, but it's kids in the 80s in the valley. So in Encino. off Mahaland, like our old stomper grounds, you know, like the whole Calabat Woodland Hills, all that shit and they go into Hollywood, dude. It has references like, like we like they're down Laurel Canyon. I was like, oh, oh, it's good. And the kids, they're basically at Lucy off Campbell Hall, which was right by the house.

That's where my, that's where both my nephews. Yes. So, right. Well, actually, all my nieces and nephews went to Camden. Yeah, great school. So they can't say Campbell Hall, but it's Campbell Hall, you know. it's just all the reference the restaurants they go to

and it's in the 80s it's so good dude what's the name of it shards the shards wow wow and then yeah you get nostalgia

a little bit and then have you have you seen um so her name's uh go back go back to the cast that first girl so her mom

oh sure that's that's Randy Gerber and Cindy Crawford's dude she's a spitting image of Cindy Crawford at her she is gorgeous. I mean, spitting image of her mom. Look at that. That's her? That's her. God. With those long tits. It's good than girl. Long strong tits. That's her with the long ones. She's a tall, long gal. Such good actors? Five ten. Yeah. Well, dad's big.

She looks just like her mom. She is tall. I remember I saw Cindy Crawford when I was at, I was in Santa Monica shopping off I was off the promenade and she was he was at the light. I'm just standing there waiting across the road. I looked down. I'm like, holy shit. How are we even the same species?

Oh, I know. Like, oh, that's a super model. Yeah. I'm a toad with eyes. Yeah. Cindy Crawford. I saw her. In her heyday?

Yeah. At a club. And I remember my friend. But go to the picture of her and her daughter. Not that one. That one's weird. Go up. Yeah,

do that one. Yeah, it's amazing. Different planet. Isn't it crazy how. Look at how, look at that curve in that girl. Is it crazy how, well, she's been in like, she's hurting her back right now by here. Yeah.

Any crazy genetics, dude? Yeah, genetics. Like your mom's a super model, like top 0.01% of all humans. And then she comes out. You're blessed. You just, you, you're born into something that's kind of like, it is easier. It is easier when you look like that. But you are going to have a great time.

Like that's Cindy Crawford in Haiti right there. Yeah. You're going to have, you're going to be, you're going to eat the best food, have the best sex, fly privately, have all the attention. You're going to have it all. And you're going to hang with the people that move and shake the world. Now, does that come with its things? Yeah, but it could be way worse.

It's pretty fun. It's pretty cool when you're that famous. Look at her in that Pepsi commercial. Good night. Good Lord. I remember those Pepsi commercials. They don't make them like that anymore. When you were that young and that famous and that rich in New York,

city, Harris, you name it. It is a fucking party. It's the best time. And then she did it right. She got married to a really successful man.

They stayed married. She had a family. They live in Malibu. They obviously raised their kids well. Yeah, normally. They raise their kids with the work ethic. They're smart people. They're not dumb.

The son ain't bad either. Who's the son? They're smart people. They raise their kids with excellence. It's like you're going to be, yeah, like you're a good looking kids with that. Give me a fucking break.

I mean, don't get that tattoo on your neck and do some of those eyebrows, but yeah, sure. How tall is he? He's got to be tall, yeah.

Again, like it's, it's, when you're tall and good looking like that and rich. Yeah. Six feet. All right. Okay.

And what's he do? Just let me guess. He's just fabulous. Music. Surf's, maybe some music. He's a model. What he wants, dude.

What he wants. Okay. Model. Now, I would say to my son, you're not modeling, but. Okay. Stuff when your mom has, you know, it's like your dad being fucking Dionne Sanders. You're going to get involved in the family business. If you're him, he's a, I mean, he's an entrepreneur.

He's good looking. Yeah. But he's, you know, he's not dropped dead. Find out what Randy Gerber. He started Mondrian, I think. Oh, Gerber, uh, fucking. Baby food. Yeah.

No, no, no, no, no, is he a Gerber baby? No, no, no, no, no. Is he the Gerber baby? Randy Gerber, who is a serious businessman. And also, oh, that's right. He's George Clooney's fucking business money. Yeah, yeah, that's right. They sold Casamigos for a billion dollars.

I forgot about that. Hey, well, hold on. Does he come from the Gerber family, like the fucking Gerber's? He does not. The Gerber's. You like baby food? Right. Yeah.

But he is a... Is not related to Gerber products. Okay, take that back. You know what? How do you make his money? Uh, the, the GERB group, he ran bars and restaurants. So Mondrian, no, I know that. I know that.

I know that. You don't, right? Yeah, I know that. I know that. I know you're just reading off the Wikipedia. I'm saying how the model. He was a model when he was a model. He worked as a model after being scouted at 16.

You're going to do some weird shit. Start selling commercial real estate in New York City. Yeah. Started with his brother, the Gerber group. Started opening up high in those. The whiskey bar. remember that the whiskey bar

he must have come from money though that's what I'm saying that's what I didn't no I didn't too chin nope he worked hard he was a young thing then he started uh that business venture with George Kluen they made all the money

but then his wife but then his wife uh it's not like Cindy Crawford was hurting for money either though she had to be she was the biggest working model in the world yeah yeah oh she was massive again they don't do that

like that anymore those days are done yeah Those days are done. There's Instagram models. I don't think he was raised with money. I really don't. It says it was not on the record. They didn't talk about it.

I think he was just a good looking kid. I think he might be Jewish. See what is a... Gerber is a Jewish name, I think, but maybe not. You wish. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, near Jewish parents. Grubb with that work ethic.

Parents whose own families had roots in countries like Russia, Poland, Belarus, and Austria. I'm sure they're rich. Yeah, good chance. There you go. Good for him, though. Good for him, is right. Smart guy. He made a lot of money.

Marries the most beautiful woman in the world. Okay. Algerian, Jewish. Go. Grew up in New York. Yeah. Model, though. I mean, he's all right looking.

He was younger. He was all right. He was handsome. Hey, he's all right. He was younger, tall. Six-four. Go to. Athletic.

He should play, played D1 football. Definitely didn't. There you go. He was doing it. Whoa. Whoa, dude. He's got arms like me, but he's got a great face. Yeah, all right.

Nice tits. Yeah, all right. Right? I've seen better. You seem better, but he's hot. He's 80s hot. He might have a workout after like a motherfucker. Yeah, he does.

You know, he does. He's smart. I hope so. Smart guy. Look at that they were young there. Yeah. I mean, he's a built guy. He's like he's tall, handsome.

Come on. God, they really do. He looks a little. bit like Michael Bolton's evil brother. He, that's a good call. That's Michael Bolton's not a bad call at all. He can't play the saxophone. Not a back call at all.

He's a singer dog. Yeah. Not. Oh, I'm thinking of Kenny G. Yeah. Yeah. But he doesn't look at Mike Bolton right here. What a beautiful fan.

Yeah. Yeah. Totally. That's, that's, uh, either way you got to watch. Ooh, they look identical. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Crawford. She's 60. Life is good when you're in Malibu and you live on the water and you just kind of hang out. I bet their home burned down, right? They're what? I bet their home burned down. That's a good question. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You think so? For sure. Unless they hired people to defend it. Interesting. Let's just see. Did not. It was threatened. It didn't burn down, Bubba. When you sold it prior to, no, hold on. They sold it prior to the fires. That's why. When you're touched by God. Oh, and then Kim Kardashian. about it. Oh, interesting. They sold it prior to the fires for

45 mil. Okay. Okay. Some people make some money. Some people make a lot of money. The fires didn't get them. The concentration of wealth in this country is a problem. It's all we're no longer marketplaces.

Shut up. It's all fucking corporate shit. You say shut up. It's a major problem. It might be the biggest problem. For real. I don't know. $70 million Malibu Mansion. A $70 million mansion.

The fuck does that look like? Good God. And they're not financing, right? They get put down some... I think they're just probably putting down cash. Although it makes more sense to finance when you make more money in the marketplace. So...

But, I mean... Not damn it. You live enough interest. There you go. Looks pretty humble here. Yeah. That's 11.6. You want it looking humble and then you go in and it.

It's like everything else though, guys, right? Am I right? You get used to any space. Am I right? They just have a lot of different houses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

This is $60 million. Hmm. Huh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Uh-huh. okay okay I didn't say that is not Malibu that's Miami Beach that's Miami Beach that's Miami Beach well good for them good for them is right buddy well good for them

that's right that's right did you see the lady who killed her three children it was a basically a hung jury because the only male there's one male on the jury

refused to give in. Really? Yeah. So he said she's... He goes, I just can't get over. She killed three children. Oh, so he was the one who said... He's like, what are we talking about?

Okay, and everybody else... Everyone else. Everyone else said she was what? Innocent or like, or just... No, that she was insane when she did it. Temporate insanity. And he was like, no, no, no, no. She killed three children.

My favorite of people are tweeting like, shout out my mom for not killing me when things got tough. I mean, you know, yeah. But he had the, this is, this is crazy. This is even a quote. He would not interact with us and try to understand. We read to him on numerous occasions, the definition of reasonable doubt from a judge, but he had the hardest, this is a real quote, but he had the hardest time getting, getting over the fact that Lindsay killed her children. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it was to entertain those chicken heads bullshit because they were trying to like rationalize with him.

He goes, well, I hear you. We all, she killed three children like in the conversation. So here's here. Follow me on this logic. There was a guy. He was a terrible thing, but he said, I have, he was in jail, but he said, I had an overwhelming, obsessive desire to kill children. okay this was this pedophile psych. He's in jail. You could argue that he had a long-term psychosis.

You could say, well, he had an old, like Ted Bunny said, I couldn't help myself. Okay. So you could say he's crazy. All right. Now, this hinges on she was crazy for a second and then not crazy. You could say the same thing about Ted Bunny, crazy for 10 years. But at the end of the day, you killed people. you kill three kids so i think at the end of the day you got to go to jail and we can have that discussion separately but what kind of standard of the set so charles bansson when he came to those well he had the family come in the murals you're like sorry man i was just out of my mind i was on lSD when i decided to make those choices and we're like you still got to go away you understand buddy no no you got to you're out you're out you're out i that's what i think it's like like like

like um you killed three kids okay so you got to go to jail forever. And then what do you, what do you want to talk about after that? What? Oh, you want to talk about psychosis? Yeah, we can talk about that. Actually, let's let's talk about that. And if we can ever find a cure for that or something, then, then we can apply it. But right now, I don't know what we're supposed to do about it. And if you really want to chair this, uh, episode up, there was a lady who was so involved with the trial and she was so motivated by this lady killing her three kids. She decided to kill her two year old. Yeah, she's, uh, she's, uh, she's, Yeah. Are we going to start GoFundMe for her and rally for her? Yeah.

I saw a multiple, like at least two ones, right? Don't bring him up. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, I think the fact that all of these jurors found her innocent by insanity or whatever that is, her not guilty through insanity, it bodes well for the defense because the next, the next trial will probably be an acquittal of some kind where she'll be. Not if you got a real motherfucker on there. Not if you got a real dude on there. He's not brainwashed and tricked by algorithm, all this shit. If you got a real dude on there like this dude, he's like, no, no. Yeah, but these jurors, are they all women? It was one guy? Look it up, Jen.

It's some weird shit. So these jurors, though, are hearing about postpartum psychosis, right? So they're saying that this was a moment of temporary insanity based on the amount of drugs were in her system, based on how often she was asking for help. She was saying it was like this for four months. Well, obviously there's only one, one male, right? I don't know. The jury's made up with 12 women and six men.

That doesn't make sense. It'd be 12 people, right? Juries only 12 people. Six alternate jurors. The 12 deliberating jurors will be identified once trial testimony is complete. I love that this guy held it down. It's like, nope. A lot of women.

Like, just let's talk to you. Nope. Like he's not engaging with it. He's like, nope, all your bitches are crazy. When you, when you brush your teeth, teeth, you want toothpaste that actually makes your teeth stronger every time you use it. Yeah, but what if I told you you could chew on some gum that actually makes your teeth stronger every time you use it, B? I'd say Lorinco, okay? I'd say Larinco, L-A-R-I-N-E-C-O. Yeah, Marine is better

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and the one dude was like nope god how crazy is that where was this where was this at and you get fucking nine out of 12 women you got to hold the line you got to hold the standard yeah this guy held the fucking standard Massachusetts yeah they're super woke up there so ending in a mistrial so did they redo it now you do it again

and where does she go when they're before this trial picks back up because remember that she killed those innocent children three years ago that bitch is in a wheelchair now though yeah she jumped out the window tried to kill her yeah do it again for us well I'm not

concerned honestly I don't yearn to have her punished. I think she's already in hell. It's not what I'm saying. I just think that, I just think ultimately, when justice is served, you have to do something about.

So she's not even in jail. She's at a psychiatric facility. Yeah, that's probably where she, that makes sense. She's staying at Tewsbury State Hospital? Yeah. That can't be great.

No. Hopefully. I promised you'd want out very quick. Hopefully. You're around nothing but crazies. Crazy, man. Crazy. Both sides might discuss a potential plea agreement.

What the fuck with the plea be? But she's still in a fucking wheelchair for the rest of her life. Not enough, B. Not enough. It's going to cut her feet off. No, I'm not worried about it. I don't, I don't yearn to punish her. Oh, I do. I just think the children.

No, let's make it worse for her. You get nothing from that. No, if you make it worse, the next mom's going to think twice for her killing her kids. I don't think that has anything to do with deterrence at all. I think it's crazy. I think that's what's part of our problem. No, when somebody's crazy and they try to kill themselves after they kill their kids, you're not going to, there's no, you've already lost your mind.

It's like, you're not going, well, you know, punishment's not in part of the equation. You're actually insane, right? It's why people, suicide by cop or whatever it is, they take a gun and shoot a bunch of people. They don't care about anything else. they don't they hate existence yeah but it's not about her it's about the others that copycat her ah you get copycats regardless my i disagree you do you always have people that are not doing well who are already on the verge crazy people yeah we can't give them a slap on the wrist put them in insane asylum because they murder three kids i don't think this is ever a slap on the wrist right i think

just like any good time you have to you're in a wheelchair and you're going through it all you keep bringing up wheelchair bud yeah we didn't do that to her. The judicial system didn't do that to her. She said to herself. She tried to kill herself. Okay. Jumped out of window. Okay. And cut herself. Yeah, but what, so what has the judicial system done? What, what, what, they've done nothing? I think when you, when you are in three years in a psychiatric hospital and going through all the court stuff and it's not a barrel of laughs. Nor should it be. Right. Yeah, that's not enough. Well, I mean, either way, I think she should go to jail or go at least to a psychiatric facility. She should be in prison. Because you still kill three kids. It's tough, man.

You can say that, but in a court of law, you do have an insanity defense. And you should in some cases. But, you know, I don't know. And this is one of those cases. You're going to have to deliver it. And you know she didn't kill him quick, right? The oldest one she chased around. Oh, it's awful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Nobody's saying that it isn't horrific. But, you know, the law is the law. And sometimes it's, this is what happens. What do you do, right?

Most people would say, you kill her. Most people would say, well, you can get death penalty. You can put her in jail. Death penalty. But, but, but, or she's crazy, right? Or she, she was out of her mind. What do you do about that? Like she was, we, we, we, do you believe that some people can be so out of their mind,

they don't know what they're doing? No. Where they kill themselves. No. You don't. Well, then you, well, then you're not scientific, right? So most scientists would disagree with you who studied this stuff and look at the literature. And so all murders are out of their mind?

What? All murders. Who said that? I never said that. What? Hey, hey, Brian? Yeah. Don't get defensive.

I'm not. Some murder is. No, you are, though. So I'm saying all murders. So everyone that kills their kid. No, they can just use this. No, summer is premeditated. That's why.

This would be premeditated. Well, so we have premeditated murder. And then we, have murder by insanity. The fact of the matter is... This is both. Yeah, but psychologists and psychiatrists who study this stuff will tell you that some people lose their mind.

You can see it on the street right now. I'll take it on a 6th Street, right? Yeah, but they're not murdering innocent people. But they do sometimes. So you'll have schizophrenics who, you know, like this one guy in L.A. was rolling his shit in a ball and he wouldn't let anybody touch it because of his property, right? And there was a case because...

Yeah, but I don't care about that. But he killed somebody. Sure. But I'm saying, but with this, this was preconceived. She's thought about this month prior. that's the issue. It wasn't like just a lapse in judgment in one day. I don't know the case.

I don't know the case. I know. So look in the case where he's fucking defended. They did. So the courts are looking at the case, the jurors. And the jurors, the nine women? Right. But I mean, if there's enough.

The nine fucking chicken heads. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you that at the end of the day. And I'm telling you there's a guy who's like, what the fuck are we doing here? But what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that there are cases in history and in life or somebody who is a schizophrenic takes a knife, kills somebody like this woman

who killed that kid. And she's talking like this and she's clearly out of her mind. What they do with that person is they say, you're not going back on the street, you're going away to a psychiatric facility. So there's a difference between jail and then there are hospitals

for the criminally insane, right? And there's a reason for that. Yeah, yeah, sure. Does this sound like she just had a lapse in judgment and just went crazy? She sent Patrick out. So she told her husband to go pick up food and medication so he was out of the house. Yeah.

So does that sound like, oh, I'm just going to kill my kids and not think about this and just do it sporadically? No, she purposely set it up. Yep. So her husband leaves the house so there's enough time to kill the kid. Yeah. And then she kills herself. No, she didn't kill herself. She tried.

Yeah, I mean, by the way, that, but see. So hold on. Is this insane? Tell me if I'm crazy here. So she said, she searched how long it would take her husband. to complete the errands so she knew how much time she had to kill these children. I mean, but does that sound like someone out of their mind? But does that sound like someone thinking?

All you're doing right now. Does that sound like you're kind of have your wits about you? Yes. So what you're doing right now. Now, if you're hurt, now I know, but hear me out. Now, if you're heard, aren't you going to say, I was insane? Of course. Now, isn't everybody else that, then this is going to happen again, don't they just go,

oh, I'm out of my mind. Give me a slap on the wrist. That's a good point. Again, that's the point. But you're bringing up, but you're bringing up important questions. So you as a juror would say that and you would say she's guilty. Okay. That's what this guy did.

Right? So I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that in a case like this, those questions are going to come up. And you go, was she insane or not? You know what the definition of that insanity is? Did you know you were doing right from wrong in the moment? Of course she did.

Right? Well, there you go. Personally, I think she should be in jail. That's my personal feeling. And and and but but but you're still dealing with the the fact that there are people that are that are to have temporary insanity and And their argument now saying so the argument is she wasn't capable of understand the wrongful wrongfulness of what she's doing right here's how you metated all this here's how I feel But real quick if this is 20 years ago this isn't even a conversation right but we're learning more about the brain here's no no we're a softer society we're a softer society well been crazy people before, but we're just, we're more empathetic to these fucking losers.

This is part of the problem. Here's how I feel. If you did something because you were insane and you killed somebody, right? Did you think about it for four months before? No, forget even that. And then like, and now you're normal, right? For me, I think you should still go to jail. Here's why.

I know you're insane. The problem is I don't know if you're going to be insane again. So I don't really give a fuck either way. I need you in a hospital or in a jail. because I think if you killed somebody with a knife and you are schizophrenic like you see these guys do on the street. You got to leave Earth. The guy who punched that woman on the street. You got to leave Earth.

You got to leave Earth. The guy who punched that woman on the street that we played a video, you got to go to jail for me. Like keep them off the street forever. Like a dog. What are we going to? Taxpayers money, just keep. How long are we going to do this? You know what I'm saying?

Like how long are you going to keep funding this bullshit? There are evil people out there. There's crazy people that do evil shit. Right. There can't be part of society. Right. So what are we going to do? That's how I feel.

What are you going to do? You can't be part of society. We're going to slap on the wrist, let them back out like California, like California, New York does with all these criminals that keep making the same crimes over and over and over. Usually the question is this. You go to jails for life. If you go to a psychiatric institution, there is a chance based on medical evaluation. You can be let out.

And that's the question. Now, personally, I don't trust the medical evaluation. I don't. Well, they're just going to pump them full of medication. I just don't think you can, I don't think you can read someone's mind. I don't think we know enough about the brain to say, oh, they won't do it again. So you kill three kids. You got to go to jail or you got to go to a psychiatric hospital.

I'm not so concerned with punishment. I think you were so crazy. You were trying to punish yourself. But you should definitely be, you can't go back into society. And if she gets acquitted, I think she goes back into society, right? I think she's free. So for me, I'd be like, nah. But you've got to have the debate.

If you're, you'd be, you'd be, you'd be in this, you'd be having this question. Not necessarily. I mean, if I was not guilty, her reason and saying she would simply walk out of the hospital and return society on a master, like she would generally be committed to a state psychiatric facility. Yeah. She could remain there indefinitely. Yeah.

Yeah. So either way, I think she's, she's gone forever. that's what I that's what I think. I wonder if there's going to keep because the prosecution has to press more charges, yeah? They're going to have to go back to court. Well, the prosecution says do we, do we, you got to reach out. Can we win this one?

Yeah, you got to run it back. Just taxpayers money. Can we, I think you do. Oh, they'll run it back. You got to run it back. And you don't do it with nine fucking idiots. Yeah, too many. But she's fucked.

If they get like, uh, majority males on there, they're going to have, it's Massachusetts, so you got a lot of soft people out there. but if you get eight real dudes, she's cooked. Although you have four bitches, so it's to be a fucking hung jury again. Yeah. It's pretty wild. How many women are kind of like behind her on this?

Nobody's saying, though. No good mom. Nobody I know that has their shit together. Not my wife. I don't know. Listen, but you got to be careful with social media. You have to be very careful with social media and the algorithm. It's going to make it seem like shit.

has all the support. Yes, she got a million dollars and go fund me all that shit. You walk down any street and ask him about it, any mom, like, get the fuck out of here. She should rot in hell. But you go online, like, man, she has a lot of supports. Like, I don't think so. It's the ultimate crime, man. It's the, it is what, what we all, what fucks everybody else. She should get the worst, most of the penalty possible. But, but this is so unnatural. No, no animal in the animal kingdom would do this. Like, this is the most unnatural act. A mother kills her children. Like, it is the most unnatural act. You, you, you, so that's why all of us go, what? That's why people use words like satanic. When Rogan was, when they were back in the insanity of the woke era, and please look

this up, I believe the CDC was advising trans men on what drugs to take so they could lactate to feed their babies, which cause heart problems and babies. And Rogan said, when I think of a trans man with breastfeeding a baby, I think of, it feels satanic. So it's so unnatural, you know, and it's the same idea when a mother kills her children. It's like the most unnatural satanic thing. So, you know. It's just a day and age.

Look at this, dude. Look at this. The CDC has published guys, the specific acknowledges transgender man. and not in varying people who may give birth and feed infants. But the viral care is listening at the CDC was telling trans men what to feed their babies is misleading. What the CDC actually do is to use including terminology. The other thing with this to, yeah, we care with social media. So let's, don't get wrong, this is wrong.

If one dude was trying to breastfeed his son that he adopted, that's one too many, I bet you it's less than 15 people in the world. And this, we get all up in all, I know, I know, this is nothing. there's way bigger fights to fight. This is nothing. You're right. This isn't real. There's so much bigger shit going on.

So true. There's so much bigger shit going on. It's a head fake. Like speaking of going woke, like remember how woke Nike went? Remember how woke? Have you seen their stock? Oh yeah.

Have you seen what happened? It also has more actually. So that's another thing that I kind of said and I was talking to a big marketing person. He goes, yeah, no, it's also because Nike during COVID thought that, that direct to consumer was going to be everything. And they made a huge change. And so in Dick's sporting goods now, what do you see in display on cloud,

Noka? I think you're guys wrong. I think you're guys wrong. I'm in Dix all the time. Nike has more shit out there than anyway. They lost shelf space, though, because I'm just telling you. I'm telling you. Like, that's like, yeah, maybe that got no stock,

but to drop that much. It's actually not the woke stuff. It's not. I'm telling you that has a factor because people stop buying it. Not, not to this degree. There are a lot of things going on. One is there's lots of other brands that people can choose from. Two is they went to direct consumer.

You know, three is they lost shelf space two on cloud and different brands. Volka. I don't know. I'm telling you. Because you talk to your buddy? I'm just telling you. It's his business. Yeah, but there's a number of things.

It's a number of things. But it's not. We all want to think it's the woke thing. but it's actually less that. It just is. I guarantee that didn't help them. You can literally see when they went woke and look at the stock. Go back, go back.

Go up so I can read it. This part here, right? Yeah. Nike sales, Nike's revenue fell one cent. So China's a major problem. Yeah, Nike has experienced 16 of quarters of decline. China sales huge. Yeah, it's so many other factors.

Yeah, see there? and well competitors such as On and Hoka expanded aggressively through retail channels that gave those brands much more physical shelf space and visibility. It really isn't. But I'll tell you what one of their biggest problems and this is saying here too is the price man. Their stuff is so expensive. It's so expensive. Then they're also like my kids, they know who Jordan, they know Jordan as the logo and the brand. They don't know Michael Jordan. So when I was kid like the Jordan ones, if you had Jordan cleats, they're insane. so they're not doing anything new.

All they're doing is remaking the Jordans, but the younger audience is like, what? That's right. They dig them. Don't even wrong. They're cool looking, but they don't have the same nostalgia connection with it. And then LeBron,

then they went all in on LeBron. Remember they gave me what it was a billion dollar deal? My kids don't give a fuck about LeBron. Like, they don't have that same connection. That's it. So they haven't found that guy to like carry the torch. Like Nike doesn't do it.

Product and innovation problems. Yes, exactly. Like Nike doesn't do anything cool. False of market to hook on New Balance City is very high. Yeah, they just, they don't do anything cool. Fail directs a consumer strategy pulling back from the retail is very high. China weakness. It's all that, yeah.

And some of the political branding position. But they just don't do anything cool. You know what I'm saying? Like they're not reinvent them. They're not doing anything to connect with young kids. Too big, man. And like I bought Tiger Cleats this morning because the other pair were, uh, he kept getting hurt in his feet.

I think they were too tight at the front and got new cleats. do you if I told you how much I pay for these my dude my pants would be like what because I need a size wide I need them in a certain color by Friday but the amount of money is what yeah there you go fuck you know and just hearing that it's like fuck you is like a huge problem it's nuts dude it's nuts yeah yeah man it's like the bigger you are the less control you have over the little details that make all the difference so yeah they're just not doing like they did the only thing that's cool these days that it used to be they don't really do it as much like the collabs they don't have any like flagship anymore like jordan's bigger than nike i think i think they make more money off

jordan really it's massive wow yeah yeah man they just don't but they to be fair like there there's no michael jordan currently no like if you went all in on otani like i think look at what new balance look at new balance stock they went all in on otani who's massive he's like a close thing we kind of have to Jordan he dominates, right? But again, he, you know, Japanese. Kids dig them, don't get me wrong. Yeah, but it's not Jordan. It's not American, yeah. Yeah, anyway, Jordan revenue, 7.3 billion. What?

So it means Jordan could possibly account for something like 40 to 55% of Nike's operating profit. What the fuck? Mm-hmm. Still. I wore my Jordan's yesterday on stage. And there it is. See, it says this is an important trend.

Jordan is actually becoming less important than Nike. It's getting older. But also the kids don't, they don't fucking know, man. How would you? They didn't grow up with them. Like when I was a kid,

I wasn't into Julius Irving. Right. My dad was like, he was great. It's like, okay. Jake Paul hadn't seen entourage, you know?

I mean, now he's watching it. You know, it's like, you forget, people are young. That was 25 years ago. Yeah, there's no guy that sticks out from the rest.

Yeah. There's also too many niches. Like there's YouTubers, there's streamers, there's, you know, there's the Jake Paul's. There's random shit, man. It's all a different, fucking, like who you can get, you get a, you get a different, you give a guy's signature shoe. It's like his fan base will buy it, but it's not Jordan. We're world, we don't have any worldwide star.

You'll, you'll appreciate this. And like, the future is here. I now with my Tesla I go like this and I don't touch anything and it just drives me and it parks for me and then when I want it if I'm

lazy I hit summons and my car drives to me do you do that chin no I don't trust it yet so it'll take me a little time like I never trust it now and I hit hurry mode so it sticks with the traffic

so the traffic is going above the speed limit it'll stay with it I always do hurry mode but it's fucking crazy I never I always had to have my hand the wheel, I thought. No. Now you can just sit there and just, fuck.

Just look at the windshield. It's no longer a rule. No. You're never used to have a warning. Yeah. Now I can do this. So when it gives you the warning, that's when you put your hand on. You just kind of wakes up to look up.

But it doesn't. You're just like doing stuff like this. You don't want to be, you can look down. If you're looking down to it. It knows you look down. Yesterday I could watch the whole tennis thing on my phone on my way to the mother ship. I just think like that.

It doesn't matter. But there was, there was an update recently. And you know, what is this called the RM or the R-620? 620. Is it R.M or on? Either way. Doesn't matter. 620. So I did an update and then I hit a yellow light, but the yellow light just barely changed the yellow light and I'm going through the intersection. It was on full self-driving. And then I saw the truck stutter. I'm like, what the f, right? And it was on full self-driving.

And then suddenly it just slammed on the brakes and I slid into the intersection. Jesus. So luckily, I just freaking hammered the gas because as soon as you touch the gas, it takes it off self-driving. That's not good. But the person behind me, because it just turned yellow, of course they're going to go too. So they had to slime in. I almost, and I was so embarrassed.

But I was like, it's full self-driving. So then I put it into the system. I don't think they're ever like, there's certain things that they're not going to be able to figure those kinks out. You know, they always update. Yeah.

They update it like that. Like it's like, yeah, this thing. That one time could kill some yellow light. It's going to slow the fuck down and then come to screech and all. Mine is. Remember before it was the sun glare.

It couldn't pick up certain sun glares. Yeah. It's never perfect, man. No, it hit. It saw a white. truck and thought it was the sky. Fuck.

I enjoyed driving. I just, I don't. No, no, I like to drive too, but sometimes when you have to do stuff in the car. Oh, no,

I was driving. Oh, in L.A., we rented a fucking, one of those Jeep, the big boys, and it had the self-driving in it, even though it's gas had self-driving,

when you're in that 405 traffic, like I had to drive down to Newport. Yeah. That was when it was, I was like, that's awesome, right. Yeah.

Gas with that is the move. Yeah. I wish, dude, I wish it was. The fucking new Tesla roadbook taxis don't have mirrors or a steering wheel. They don't need it, right? No. No, it's self-driving. The Google cars, too, now they have these things where you just get in and they just drive.

I don't like it. It's nuts. What are you going to do? It's autonomous driving. And Elon, they're working on that flying car. Like, that's his debut. He's like, we're going to launch it. He said by the end of the year, so.

He can have a flying car, though. His phone seems badass. his phone? Yeah, it goes with Starlink. So you get reception anywhere. Do you know what's crazy? My dad got me those meta glasses. You know Joanna can speak Spanish and it translates it in English to me? What? What do you mean? You can pick any language or translate. Well, as she's talking, it goes into your ear. It literally goes because it has speakers and I'm like, can you hear what it's saying? She's like, no. You can hear it crystal clear. You put the glasses on, you can hear it. As she's talking Spanish,

translates to English. That's amazing. I got him because I can, like, when, you know, I don't want to, I'm a coaching, so I don't want to be on a sideline film and a good play or something like that. So I can just hit, tap it twice and tell what number to focus on, and it would have tracked Tiger. It's great. Oh, insane. And it goes

straight to your phone. And then you can edit and everything. How crazy is that? Dude, it's all here. It's all here. What are we going to do? You're not going to stop. And I'm, I'm, I am not a tech savvy. Like it was...

Yeah, but you won't have to be. I told you the guy, the Google engineer, and everybody was playing, the kids were playing in the playground. I wasn't there as my buddy. My buddy goes, I go, whatsoever he goes.

Man, I go, what he goes? That guy over there's a Google engineer. He's involved in AI and virtual reality. And he said, in five years, none of this, nobody's going to be here. Why?

Because you're going to have the ability in your house to have any experience you want, but it's going to be any experience in a crazy way. No, he's off because you still get into want the son, the other kids, a fucking slide. I mean, I would think.

Yeah. Let me guess. Let me guess. That guy can't bench 135. No. You know, that's the type of dude, like,

in five years, we're never going to have this. Like, you're not going to have it. You're getting a fat slob, the staying in the house, not getting any fucking vitamin D. The real people,

they're not going to entertain that, dude. But you're never getting rid of sports, activities outside. Until you have, like, fucking sun lamps. And I don't know. You're going to have holograms. It's going to be weird. And it's never going to be able to duplicate real world shit, dude.

No. Never. Now, again, if you're a fucking troll and you want to stay indoors, your life's going to get way better. Well, it's going to be interesting. Touch grass, motherfuckers. Yeah. Touch grass. Yeah.

But again, there's people that want that. Why get it? They want that alternate world where they don't have to interact with real people. they don't have to go outside. There's nothing. I get it. I get it. I don't know, man.

Getting sucked off, you know, with VR by Cindy Crawford. Yeah. I get it. There's nothing like a real human being who wants you. Well, yeah, but if you can't get that, this is pretty good. That sounds dystopian. That sounds really weird. It sounds like the end of simple.

I'm a little horny right now, but I know what you mean. Yeah. It's not good. Yeah. Like Tiger has this VR thing to work on his hands. sweet for batting stuff and you can have real pitch and stuff like that tiger was into it for like three days and then finally was like yeah can we just go outside and do the band cakes i'm like yeah yeah there's listen i told him i said it's never going to replace that dude no you got you got you got to do the real

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you remember her we did I ever remember well this she had no idea what she's getting herself into. Hopefully, the hopefully is click, clip a line. You're also too old to be

break dancing. She's a sweetie. She didn't know. The next thing I know, it was semi getting drawn into

these conspiracy theories. See, this shit's happening too. Hold on. Let me refresh. Oh,

you know what it is? I know what it is. You got this, Jen. I'll tell you what it is. When I screen record, like Netflix

knows your screen recording. Yeah. Really? So, yeah. So, yeah. So it was just pause

the thing. So I can't record this, obviously, but we're not going to show this on you. But check it out. This fucking cut. The way she got the other than this is her husband is the head of the committee. Hey, oh, your boys on Netflix, dog. Oh, yeah. Now, I don't know what I'm in more.

That or the Scrub Daddy commercial. I was going to say, that was a, it's fine, though. It's good stuff. Hold on. I would like my payment Netflix. But there it is. That's his big, uh, that's Sean on Netflix. That's the, that's the, that's the,

I'm going to pass whole gas. Let me think that's the third time. Well, I've been on ridiculousness a bunch of times on Netflix. But as far as docs, I'm in this one. There's three. There's three, I think. This one, the MacLife one. And they've never asked for my permission, not that I give a fuck.

No, it's good that you're on it. There's a third one. I forget what it is. MMA related or something else? I forget. I'm in a third documentary. I want to be in a murder doc, dude. Give me in the serial killer one.

I always talk about them. Throw my ugly mug in one of the fucking Charles Manson ones, dude. Let's get spicy. I don't want to be on the Raygun one. You should just go around and you start killing all the child molesters that you find in your neighborhood. And they're like, we don't know what happened, but their heads were squeezed off their bodies. They're all suffering from broken necks. Me and Joanna were watching this.

And that pop, they go, oh, go, go, and I go, listen, it's a 10.30 at night. And I go, listen, I don't want you treat me any different. listen, I put my pants on one leg at a time, just like you. I know I'm on our TV right now. And you're probably going to tell the kids in the morning, it's a big deal. I don't want you to treat me any different. She was like, dude, you're literally in this for one second. I said, hey, hey, I'm in there.

Hey. My name's in the credits, girl. I'm in it. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. They made a doc on it. How is that?

Can I see that? This is crazy. So I hope we're able to show some of this. Yeah, this guy. What is it? This is called, what is this called? You see everything. Yeah, you can see everything.

That's it. What is it? So remember Elizabeth Holmes? That's fake wannabe Steve. Oh, yeah. Her voice was Steve. And she was a complete fraud. Yeah.

So this is a documentary on it? So this director went to see her and interviewed her for like a few years and kept it secret. And then he just published this whole documentary. she at a film festival screening and no one knew so then he he just here's a trailer for it it's gonna come out look good oh it looks crazy because you could see her i don't have anything to deceive you on of course i'm not deceiving you as a human being crazy why would i deceive you there's no there's no reason for me to do that she is just her eyes is shark eyes doll smile strange looking face.

Okay, good chat. Wow. Why is he holding her look like that? It's being real right now. This is a terrible enemy. This is awkward as shit, dude. This is so awkward.

Why is he doing that to her? Why are they both doing that? He's just in her face. He's weird too. He's very weird, but he's doing it on purpose. I don't want to see it now. That was terrible. I kind of do.

It's so awkward. So creepy. She was all. I promise I'm not. What a face. Oh, dude, did you see? I think it might be on Hulu or HBO, the OJ Simpson show. Yes.

Oh, the one that they did punk. I can't watch that shit. You should. Really? Who the fuck thought of that? It's wild. It's wild. And you see him like, he gets a lot of info when they're talking about the murders.

They jump in a white brown girl. He's like, man, that's time was here. This thing was full blood. You all. And he didn't think the camera was on. It's wild, dude. Like, oh, my, clear. I mean, we all know it.

He killed her, but. And him? She did 14 years. She got, she's. What exactly did she do? She scammed people out of, basically by saying that she had a machine that could take one drop of your blood and give you an entire diagnostic of your entire makeup.

And biologists were like, that's not possible. What is she talking about? So how'd she get so far? And then she raised all this money for the machine and the company. I mean, billions. He kept it?

Yeah, well, it all went into the company, but like it was just, she was spuddling a little bit. She was budging data. Boy, she has crazy eyes.

The three verse, but she was like in a home setting, right? So. Yeah, how long did she get? Service sentence where she has been. Sam Bankman,

free, originally 11 years and three months. Oh, but hold on, call me crazy. So the lady that didn't kill anybody but just stole money from other one percenters got 12 years.

The mom who murdered three people is just chilling? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, okay. Elizabeth Holmes will be out in four years. She's still done more time than the lady that murdered three children.

Yeah. And all she does take money from other one percenters? Oh, interesting. Interesting. Oh, okay. That makes complete sense. That seems fair. That makes sense.

And she seems all there, right? She seems normal. She's already planning a health care and biotech comeback from prison. I'll support it. She'll figure it out. God, she was on like dateline and shit doing those interviews. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Dude, that's, that is so nuts. Took three years. So it took three years to make with the filming. So she was home for 34 days before. Man, I don't know if I don't watch that. It is. I mean, just the trailer was interesting. It's all right. I don't know if I'm watching it for three hours.

That's the thing. Like after 20 minutes, yeah, this is crazy. Yeah, she's bad shit crazy. Anybody get killed or what are we doing? All right. Going back to the Clancy stuff. This is her lawyer asking President Trump to pardon her. Trump being doing that. I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt compelled to speak out about this case, may very well, Mr. President, and I would hope that you would consider this young lady, the type of person she is, what she's been through,

and consider a pardon. That's next for a lady. Have you met him? You think he's doing that? This person also makes a good point. Don't know if anyone else knows this, but Trump can't pardon you for state charges, only federal.

It's true. Duh. Here's a quick tennis one. Influences are just kind of messing up the matches. That's so annoying. So this is an example of what they do. It becomes trendy to do, yeah? Oh, annoying is that?

It's annoying. It's our culture. On Monday night alone, there were two incidences, one where someone was using a distracting ringlight in the middle of a point, and another during Naomi Osaka's match when a group was loudly recording a video. It's just a...

And then Naomi Osaka talks about it, too. Is this interesting at all to you guys or no? Yeah, it is. It's tennis. I mean, that's a really tough question. I think, obviously, if you come to a sporting event, you have to respect the sport. And I feel like it's common courtesy to, like, read up on the sport, especially, like, the etiquette. And, I mean, I feel like it could be a good thing for people to make the sport of tennis popular to their specific audience.

but I think it has to be managed a lot better, especially in the situation like my first round match. But yeah, overall, I think there's huge positives. The tennis players are notorious for the most boring people on the planet. And I'm not the one to like, they're literally the most boring people on the planet. Yeah, that's why there's no stars. Like, but tennis and golf has that old school etiquette.

Like, they just let black people in like two years ago. You know, so they do not play this shit. This is a little bit more controversial, but the whole Carmilla Anthony thing, I guess there was texts that were finally released that people found out about him saying how much he hates black girls?

Jesus Christ, yeah. And he was dating a Mexican girl or Hispanic girl at the time? He's just talking to this girl. I don't know what this. But he goes, I f. and despise black, you know, his nash is. I mean. I mean, he's dead.

What's this, you know? No, this guy's in jail. Oh, is he? Yeah, he killed the white, dude. But also the white kid. also had texts. So they did this weird thing where both parties, the prosecutor and the defense,

they were like, okay, let's just shake our hands and not. Stabbed that white kid at the football athlete kid. The innocent kid. Was it football or track or some shit? It was track,

but I'm not sure which exact sport. What did he do this dummy? He just stabbed this kid. You need to just say he had a lapsing judgment and was insane. So his sport came. Majority was like, this is from what I read. So black women were like defending him and everything.

but ever since not the murder. Again, this is all social media. Black women in general, yeah, okay. But since this came out, a lot of black women are turning on Carmel and Anthony because of him being so like, oh, I hate black women, blah, blah, blah. How long has he gone for? How long do you get?

35 years, I think. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter. Oh, yeah. Yeah, see you later. Oh, you support him? Cool. It was, see him in 35 years. This was pretty awesome.

Well, it's a shitty situation, but it's pretty awesome what this guy did. Oh boy, I fucking hate that so much. So this family lost control of their kid here. He just takes off running. And then both the man and the woman don't go in traffic, but this guy who's working at the facility. The mom tried, but she slipped.

She slipped because she stopped. You can see, I don't know, I don't know. I don't think she stopped. She was trying to get him, but just it's a downhill. You see how it's an incline chin? She slipped. I'm going to give her the benefit of the dad. She was going to get them.

Oh, yeah, she was going to get. Thank God for that other. dude, though. Tight move, too. Yeah. And he just goes, this is what bothers me. The dad doesn't say anything? They don't say anything.

They just kind of walk off. Well, they're probably in shock, though. Yeah, so I... Fuck you, man. Jesus Christ. When you got kids, you're like... Kids are so fast, too. They can get out of hand, like...

Trust me, I got a two-year-old and a four-year-old, I know. Jesus Christ. Tight move, whoosh. And he didn't harm the kid in the role? No. This guy's Mexican Batman. Yeah. yeah did you hear about that dude that tried to get penis enlargement surgery and passed away

oh man so tell me you don't have a big dick originally his nickname is tiny oh but he guys he's like a big internet you know influencer guy and they went to thailand to get it's so crazy yeah he got a he got an embolism because they embellism filler in his dick and it would he just got in his bloodstream yeah yeah so cause clots and stuff well they had to You know, pretty girlfriend. I don't know what. And his coffin, check this out, $745,000. That's coffin?

Did he not have a big dick to begin with? Probably not. And that's what I call a waste of money. That's such a waste of money. $745,000. You put that in the bank. Can the penis enlargement? I thought they saw him figure that out.

I see there still can't do anything for a small dick. I'm pretty sure they did. Don't they just cut the thing? it gives you like an inch it ain't worth that no they can they do some other shit let's ask it's not like getting new tits yes but the results usually modest modest that's what i'm saying and the wrists are significant results are off around one to two centimeters of visible length i'm telling action there's no fillers are grafting there's not much they can do wow one to two centimeters i'd be particularly cautious about procedures advising and give three to four inches

it's that's not realistic you gotta be out you gotta just develop a good personality yeah positive attitude make some good hips make money and develop yeah good personality god what a terrible way to die fuck terrible way and he was like you know made good money and everything his family obviously his family 740 so the w nba commissioner kathy engulbert is going to resign yeah yeah after the council's time and you know why though right Oh, yeah. Why? Hold on.

So basically it's because of the whole thing where she couldn't describe what a female is. And then, you know, obviously the two basketball players, Enos Cantor and this guy Royce. Yeah, she's not leaving the right direction. She just, it's going to be good. Who knows? Someone behind her might be bat shit crazy too, but. But she couldn't handle, like, all the madness that was happening. Anyway.

What? Those basketball players? Yeah. That's so wild. Love it. Love it. I love it and I don't. It shows the madness with us like, I get doing it once.

I jump to NBA, like doing it once, but then staying with it, you're like, all right, dude, we got it. We got it. We know how crazy it is, but we got it. They're taking on a philosophy, like in a position. That's all. What is this? Well, I'll show you that a bit, but what do you think about this?

The announcer for Wheel of Fortune was looking at some sort of chat thing on the plane, and that's linked to like, you know, know why yeah you know but younger people so i'll let you need you here so that's him on computer he was there he was on for a while too that's disgusting it's like a chat room for people that want to talk about that kind of stuff so he's obviously immediately fired fired from the network that job for that's how that goes if you're on a chat room about where to find cute little boys and girls, you can go fuck yourself. This thing, so the website actually put out a statement, and it just, it is a trip to read

if you read it. I don't know if you how much you want to read of this. I mean, people are going to be listening. Whoa, Lifeline operates as a support chat room for people attracted to children. We have strict rules against any kind of illicit behavior. Yeah, right. Including the share of criminalized images. Those who violate, okay.

Many commentators ask why a place like life. line even exists. It exists because most people attracted to minors are full of people behaving and medicalizing and kind of like normalizing. Yeah, but with our judicial system, you get caught and go, ah, lap and judgment. I was just crazy. Yeah, yeah, I'm not really attracted kids. It was this weird, only for 30 minutes. It's an overwhelming psychosis. I had a psychosis. And the families go, man, I don't get it. He was actually a good guy and all this. Then the jury's going to be like, man, we kind of side with him. It's a lap and judgment. Well, no, I had temporary, I had temporary psychosis. It's called minor attracted person psychosis.

Yeah, yeah. All they got to do is find out the user's names and their address, and you put all of them down like dogs. That's how this should go. Yeah. So there you go. There you have it. Hold on.

Let me show that thing that you wanted to look at. This one here. So I don't know how legit this is, but it looks pretty real. There's a woman in Rio de Janeiro Beach instantly went viral online after revealing her dramatically enhanced physical transformation. I'm sure it's tits. Keep watching. Oh, her butt. Oh, no.

She got the discount on the booty job. Oh, man. It could be a joke, though, no? I don't know. It's really bad, and it might be a... I bet those are definitely fake, you could tell. I bet in jeans it looks all right, but she, you know, she probably went somewhere cheap and she's like,

God, God, damn it. Maybe it's AI? No, this is so great. I don't know. You know nowadays I just don't know. By the way, I don't like it. No, no, nobody liked it. Let me show you a couple, including her.

This one was amazing. I don't know if you guys seen this, this crash. This was in China. It was a GT race. And then what this other driver did, who's his rival, at least here? So let me just play this. Oh, my God. Here we go on.

Jesus. Oh, my God. Oh, my word. Why's this? Shit. Get him out. He's a driver. There's no like medical people there.

So he's like trying to find anything he can. There's the music like this. Adds to the feeling. He saved his life. I'm sure. He's about to be milked up. Look how close he's to the fire? You could tell he's getting freaking jet.

How badly is he fucked up? He had like eight broken bones like burns. And he probably can't move or get out. You got to keep going. Bub, I'll roll. Tuck and roll, Bub. I think he's in my smoke.

Yeah, but no one else, no one else stopped. No emergency team, but he wasn't even part of his team. He just saw him and he was like instantly reacted. His car's fucked up too, but yeah, I hear you. Come on, dude. Oh, you're going to love this, Brendan. I don't know if he saw this already. Tony Hawk?

Yeah. Stingray, 64 Stingray. His dream car when he was younger. When I was a kid, I saw one of these cars grabbed on street in 1964. It was the year you want. And I thought it was the Batmobile. And it was my dream car all through my childhood. And then when I finally got the mean, I bought one about 20 years ago.

And it was always kind of hard to get started because I'm not a gearhead. And I don't wrench for fun. And so I handed it off to D.B. West. Oh, no. Tony. And they made it much faster. Tony. He made it a lot.

Oh, disgusting. Sorry, Detroit. So this is all original interior, original dash. Oh, no. has actually been modified to have digital displays. Fuel level is actually the battery level. Take it easy. Take it easy.

The only other physical modification besides the gas tank is adding stuff. This is like this would be like Arnold Schwarzenegger going trans. A 64 Corvette converted to electric dude. Even I was disappointed. I was disappointed. Toss a fucking Ellis and with his money, toss the fucking. a new ZR1 engine in there. Let's get cooking, Daddy. God damn it, dude. This is what's wrong with the world. Why you do that to me, Chin? It was just, even, I said, it disappointed me too, because those cars

should stay that. That was pretty bad. Especially as 64. This is, uh, got, does that ruin my day more than that fucking Clancy bit? Oh, this will make you happier. This is Jaden Smith talking about hell yeah. What do you do? Hell yeah. About somebody in my life and like, when I really love them, I come to them and I'm like, hey, like, can I build you a bed? Like, can I, I'll say, hell yeah. Your bed frame. Wow. Yes.

Like, okay. And I'll go away for, like, a long time. It'll, like, get my circular handsaw and my drills, my riot. I literally build them a bed frame. Man, he says a lot of profound stuff. Put it on the thing and then, like, drill into the bed frame so that they can't read the note until such a long time is past that they actually have to disassemble the bed. Right. But you're too young for anybody to read that note, right?

It's like, from me, like, I'm a carpenter. Like, I build my hands when I'm bored. You imagine Will Smith as a dad's like, God damn. Do you actually believe that he knows how to build a bed with saws and everything else? The thing is he can't build a bed. Yeah. And also he's so young, he's making beds for his buddies. They're too young to, they're not going to go through a bed frame.

How long your fucking bed? Yeah. Will Smith, who made the bed? It's been, it's bed by Will. Jaden. Jaden, bud. Oh, I'm sorry. I wish Will Smith built me a bed.

It's great. He's great. Listen. He's lost. You think a little bit. Can I play you one more? Yeah. Then give me the fuck out here.

This is a some random thing that I saw online, but it was just pretty cool. He's like Christ. He's a carpenter. Okay. Here we go. The multiverse was real? I'll be like Batman.

Hey, if the multiverse is real, I'd be like flashy. No, if there's no universe like that first. Or if the multi-reational, I'd be like rich as I'd have a mansion. I'd have like a wife and kids. And the kids would be like many version of me. And I'd take them to school every day until they, they graduate. And one day I have to say goodbye.

and I have to watch them go on and live their lives. Jesus, Jen. And then me and my wife retire. We die all together. I die a happy man and I'm not lonely. It's a universe out there like that, right? Yeah. There's a universe like that, bro.

That's great. Jesus Christ. That's great. He just told me from like, what the hell is this? That's insane. We're going to have to lose a little weight and I can help you out. Get you the Merrick. It's true, though.

When people talk about multiverse and stuff like that, like, dude, my life, my family life, I don't need any other fucking multiverse. Keep your fucking VR. It's the best, Bubba. What are you talking about, man? It's the best. That's an awesome video, Chin. Send that to me, Chin.

I love that. Love that. Is that it? Oh, wait. Here we go. God, damn it. No, no, this is for bribe. This is part of the thing.

I saw this online, too. Yeah. So the brines, maybe. Me and Christina Mariani. Vulcan. Sunday. September 27th, baby. Sunday.

Right after I come back from Huntsville, Alabama, doing some stand-up. And I'll be in Louisville, Kentucky at the Louisville Comedy Club come September 18th and 19th. Come and get some. And we after it. We after it. All right, kids, that's it. This is a fighting a kid. We're out.

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