The Fighter & The Kid - The UFC Has A Fighter Pay Problem | TFATK Ep. 1171

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

In this episode of The Fighter and The Kid, Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen break down oneof the biggest conversations happening in MMA right now: the ongoing situation surroundingJon Jones, the UFC heavyweight division, and the growing pressure for a fight with interimchampion Tom Aspinall.The guys discuss why the fight fans want may not happen anytime soon and what role DanaWhite and the UFC could play in the situation. They also talk about fighter contracts, leverageinside the organization, and how the landscape of MMA has changed with fighters findingopportunities outside the UFC.The conversation expands to other major names in combat sports including Conor McGregor,Francis Ngannou, and Nate Diaz, and how crossover fights and new promotions are shifting thebalance of power in MMA.If you follow UFC news, MMA controversies, and fight breakdowns, this episode covers thebiggest stories happening in combat sports right now.Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkProgressive - Visit https://www.progressive.com/ after this episode to see if you could save.O'Reilly Auto Parts - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Ready? Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, ladies and gentlemen. Did you have that old thunderstorm by you? Well, it got wippy.

The wind got whippy. No, forget when, son. I'm talking proper, lightning, torrential downpour. That's what no one told you. We moved to Texas. Yeah. Everyone goes, oh, it's hot. The summer's fucked.

That summer's ain't shit. the winter sucks. For a month, the winter was tough. No one tells you about the tsunami. Listen. The fucking... Texas? Texas rain? Texas rain and wind can get like where you go, for real.

Like you're in your house and you go, this is dicey. Oh, buddy, I went upstairs to the kids' room at three in the morning. I thought the lightning was to hit the house. So I started Googling chances of lightning hitting houses. It's 4%. But it hits. and then shows pictures, you go down that rabbit hole. Yeah.

The kids were scared. I've been up since three, dude. That's lightning is no, no joke. Yeah, well, you're near the lakey-pakey, you know. There's nothing like this in L.A. No, no, no, no. No, I've never seen that kind of, that kind of win. No one tells you.

Yeah. No one tells this. It's Texas. It's that hail. Now, it could. I had read novels about hail in Texas, like in the prairie. When you, the hail would hit, and you'd see like animals. like animals dead, like rabbits get hit in the head and stuff.

But it's no joke. But it could be worse. Our boy, Georgie, his hometown got hit with tornadoes in hail. And he says, where is he at? He's outside Chicago. Because my town got hit hard. The whole town got smashed up windows. Tornado touchdown like 10 minutes from me.

Yeah. But look at this. He sent me this. All the problems, you don't think that a tornado is going to whip you up and throw you somewhere and kill you. you know you're gonna send to me run yeah i'm saying to this was this was the hail our boy keto george had to deal with who's the best shout to k g i miss him me too how's you doing i think good he went he went back home good because he texted me was hey you guys are right in

texas i said i think so is there something i should be worried about it's a little rain but you know nothing to cry about and then he's like oh no because i figured you guys had tornadoes like we do But Austin, especially in this year, Austin doesn't get tornadoes. No, maybe because the hills or something. The hills, yeah. We don't get tornadoes like that. I got trees around me everywhere. It's just this one picture?

Yeah, of the hail. Oh, no. That's a baseball. No. That's the hail. Are you kidding me? Cancaki, Illinois. Are you kidding me?

Cancacie. Dude, he said it ruined all their cars. So dangerous. Ruin the house. So dangerous. He was like, that's what's insurance is for. I'm like, yeah, hopefully they cover all that. Bro, that's crazy.

Well, I was told in here you have to have a garage. You have to be covered because if they hail hits, your car is done. Have you ever been hitting the head hard by hail? That'll kill you. That'll kill you. That'll mess you up. Literally kill you. I mean, Colorado hit right in the head and it was like golf ball size. You're like, oh, my.

Oh, my God. Well, it's coming from heaven. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It's coming from heaven. Like it's. That's a long, yeah, that's a long way to fall. I mean, are you kidding me?

That's nuts, dude. He said it ruined the entire town. That is so scary. That'll kill you. I've heard of that, but I've not seen that. That's ridiculous. Well, not a cool stat. You want a little stat?

Yeah. You know lightning, when it hits, it kills something like 20% of the people it kills. If you get hit, your odds of surviving are not good. I think 28% survive for some shit like that. Yeah. But I think lightning hits something like 83% men. What? Oh, because they're outside.

Because men spend more time working outside. That's why. Oh, I didn't think. I thought you were a big day. No, no, no. It's because men spend most of their time outside. So that people, that's why most jobs that are dangerous that require you to work outside, like line work and stuff like that. It's all men.

Yeah. It's the great Jordan Peterson thing. He said, oh, well, you need men. How about a little of appreciation? The people that are making sure everything that breaks all the time keeps working are men. That's bad. Yeah, so I was a little off, okay? So I've been up since three.

This was on the news this morning. Yeah. So here's a little staff. I knew that, by the way. So 90% of people struck by lightning and survived. So even if you get hit, it's all good, baby. 10% die. Yeah, one.

But go to the odds of men, the men, the men get hit more. Is that because women are in the kitchen doing the job? Well, women just don't work outside. Taking care of kids. Men also take with dangerous jobs. If you're in the forest, you're, you know, you're a ranger. you're a forest fireman, all that stuff. It's all men. Yeah, and then bring up chances of getting...

The electric grid, any of that shit, anybody who works on, like, all that be on the grid. What are you going to say, 80% of vishing. And golfing, boating, construction work, farming, all of it. Buddy, you get hit golf and get the fucking side. I told you at the baseball fields where Bossi practices, Tiger used to, there is lightning and there's rain. the lightning was kind of far away and people just book it they're like taking off I'm like Jesus Christ

I'm like bossy we ain't going inside let's stay out here get some reps in and then when the coach comes by goes oh buddy you're new right I'm like yeah what's up man we just moved here he goes oh a year ago two kids were playing out of her storm just like this they got hit by lightning both died oh jeez he's like that's why people take it serious

I'm yeah did you say die bossy get your shit let's get go let's go leave the bad hair we don't want metal bands let's run yeah we ran but you don't think about it I don't think about it. Well, I play golf with my dad in Utah. Now we do. It starts raining and my dad goes, let's go.

I go, well, he goes, no, no, no, we're going. Because lightning can hit the ground. The ground is wet. Yes. You'll die. We're also holding a metal stick. That's right. That's right.

Which lightning goes, oh, I like that. Yeah. Happens fast. And I heard when you get hit by lightning, it blows through the, through the shoesies. Yeah, you can, you'll blow, like, pieces of your body will come off, apparently. Chin, some guy's been struck like three times. times that's just a bad person but um bring up uh chances of your house getting struck by lightning i it was so close to my house dude it was so loud it's so it's so loud that's scary

i was scared straight up i was scared yeah well it just one or two hundred chance it's not tiny why some houses get struck more than often taller elevated not ours we're not tall on hilltops are open land. We are open land. Yeah. Texas factor because Texas is one of the highest lightning rates in the U.S. Homes and ears like Austin can have slightly higher odds. Yep. There you go. Wow.

Yeah. It is what it is, man. Do lightning, does lightning strike planes? I'm surprised it doesn't strike planes more. I thought they do hit planes, but it's not a big deal because they're in the air. Like, fucks with electronics, but they have systems for it. You're not grounded. Yeah.

That's why when I hear lightning, I always jump. More often than most people realize, usually not dangerous. Once per year? Yeah, commercial plans are hit by lightning once a year. Huh. During descent for landing, climax take off. That's the most dangerous signs, right?

That's what we said take off and landing. Okay. So serious accidents from lightning are extremely rare because they have lightning diverter strips, protected fuel tanks, shielding electrons. They know what the fuck. fuck they're doing with lightning you got to know bohung's like what if you know how to deal with lightning if you know how to deal with electricity you make it work for you now these guys were putting up in my friends my friend new the family and they were putting up a flagpole or something and they

hit a highwire and the father and two sons died yeah yeah just boom like that they went crispy yeah you touch that you're done game set match Yeah. You touch that. You're done. Were you hearing the lightning chin? You look like a hard sleeper with that nose. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You look like you sleep hard. Hey, I got to say this. Yeah. I don't know if it's the test, but I'm loving this because I sleep way better. Yeah. I sleep through the night. Yeah. Like this is a new lease on life. Now, I don't know if you've seen, they're called Yamamoto cells or something. There's this, they're shooting them into people's eyes now. and they are reversing aging.

It's a, I don't know if this is, let's see this. Chemically, do you see this. Yamamoto, Yamanoaka factors are a group of four proteins that can reverse cellular aging by resetting epigenetic marks to a youthful state, effectively turning mature cells back into stem cells. Get the, holy shit, suggests this technique. Successfully rejuvenated skin cells by 30 years. reverse age damage.

Do you know how good looking I'm going to be in 10 years? For real. Dude, my skin's going to Brian. I'm 11. Dude, back to me at 40. Get ready, motherfuckers. I got a whole new life. No human trials yet.

Partial reprogram. To avoid creating cancer cells a common risk of full root programming, researchers use short bursts or partial reprogramming to make cells younger without losing their original function. This is insane. Studies have successfully rejuvenated skin cells by 30 years. restored vision in mice and primates and extended the lifespan of mice. I feel like punching you in the face, dude.

Potential applications right promising this technology is still in the research. I've been training so much in my testosterone so high that I am fucking strong right now. You want a reality check though? What? By the time this comes to a human trial, you'll be six feet under. No, I'm not. Yeah, it's going to me way, way past your time. No, no, no, bro, because things start, things start getting going.

That's at least 20 years ago. Just do me a favor. All bullshit aside, mind your peas and cues. Here's why. If you get this? Now, I train. I know. No, no.

I'm on test and I train. Oh, that's true. So my energy spiked. And you're slumpy slumped, right? I'm chilling, baby. Lightning. God went, man, I'm going to get your alarm today. God went, you know what?

I know you don't need an alarm usually. You just wake up at five. Let's do 3 a.m. for you. That's tough. Yeah. Because the old lightning's going to be your alarm. clock this one. It didn't wake you up, Jim? No. You're right. I'm a freaking heavy sleeper. Maybe in my nose does a lot. You had no clue, huh? No. When I roll with black belts now,

I grab them and if I get position, I go like this, I go, that was dumb, dude. That was so stupid. So stupid. You know you fucked up. Yep, I do that. And then they, like, Shane had to do a little burst and beat me up a little. And he goes, it's just your mouth that gets me going a little bit. Hey, J-Jit-T-Tu is super hard. It takes a long time. I like it because it takes so long.

I like it. It takes a long time. You're going to age out, though. No, once again, Yamamoto, Yamanoako factors. That's so long away from working. No, they're using it now in trial.

I bet you I could get a hold of stuff of that. Well, they're using it for people's eyes. You be the guinea pig. I would almost do it. Do they have to inject it in your eye? Mm-hmm. It's reversing aging. I know, but they have to put a needle in your eye by them.

Hey, Summer Moon coffee is good. Isn't it nice, my favorite? It's a nice coffee. Okay, hold on. Are just beginning to be testing humans now, but widespread medical use is like the... The discovery won the 2012 well bill. Wow.

That's not bad. Four genes could re, reset adult cells back into stem cells. Hey, Bubba? God. Bubba? Right there. It says common use is likely 10 to 20 plus years away if everything works safe.

10, dude. 10. And you're forgetting something. This is 20. So you're going to, with AI, you're going to be a. Could be in three years.

You know, it's resetting stem cells. Would you try it if it came out right away? I would. I'm now, uh, I resisted test for so long. And I'm on this minimum dose.

God's so frustrating. How long I've been telling you? I know, Bubba. It's just calm and feeling. I feel good. Oh, Joanne was getting a facial last night. And she goes, oh, I walk in. They were doing at the house.

I walk in and the ladies, that's our thing. She's like, misfacial or whatever. I walk in, John goes, he doesn't believe in sunscreen. She goes, huh, you don't? I go, nah, I don't buy all that. I've never used it since I was a kid. Never touched it. She goes, huh.

Huh. How's your face? How's your face? your face and I go ah, not great. I said, I'm constantly in the sun. I said, I'm slowly turned 100% Apache Indian.

Yeah, but you have good skin for that. You're fine. Yeah, I get the dark skin, but still can't be good, man. I don't know. You're good. When I'm your age, it's gonna be tough. I don't know about that. You take care of your skin.

You do the Mark Zuckerberg like sunscreen. I don't use sunscreen. I don't do shit. Bob, we have pictures of you. You got the fucking hat on. I wish, you had to dry feet long sleep. more of it, but I don't. I was in Arizona. I don't, I forget, you know. At marathon gas stations,

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And my kids go, nah, we're like dad. We don't believe it. I'm like, well, do you use, your kids have dark, beautiful skin? Yeah. Do you use any kind of moisturizer? No, but it does feel good when you do. I don't either. Do you use?

But when I do my skin goes, thank God. Sure. Sure, I've never used it. Do you use any special soap? No. Me neither. No. I use bars soap.

No, but my skin's like a fucking lizard. Yeah. I have ashy knees and shit. Well, you got your skins. Chin Asians don't need any of that shit. Oh, they used, that's, dude, did you see Korean skincare? That's like the number one product for women. Korean skincare is for real.

Their skin's like porcelain. It's for real. There you go, Brian. That's your feature. There you go. I have sunspots. You get sunspots. It's not good. They're twins, too. Oh. So it's not like the same.

Yeah. So it's true. Why don't you have a mustache? Oh, that's interesting. Wow. Look at that. They both look terrible. I don't know what the hell this is.

God, there's this lady I see at the fields. She's a bigger lady. She straight up has stubble on her chin. Like, you know when you and I shave and she's dark, she has that. I'm just like, God. She black? What is it? No.

Dark? I'm like, what? know what you mean? She's some sort of Indian, I think. But she just, she has a straight beard like we do. Like she clearly shaves every day. I used to sell Time Life books on, you know, when I was in college and this black guy goes, man, she was like, she had that booty and she had that little bit of hair. Woo!

And I was like, he said, he said, she had a little bit of hair. And I was like, ooh! And I was like, hey, what the fuck are you talking about? What are you talking about? No, man. There's no hair on the chin. No, I can't. At all.

No, I like my girls like seals, man. Just smooth. What? What are you talking about? Yeah, that was the first time. I remember this black woman who I worked with. But you did get in Baltimore,

she had the hottest body. I was like, she was so beautiful. And I remember being like, man, and she just, we were just different. Culture's different. You know, she just wasn't into me. And I was like looking at her. Cultures, she was black?

Yeah, yeah. She was just, she was a girl from D. Yeah, no, no, no. Not interested in me. No. But I remember just looking at her going, that is all woman. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Beast. Yeah, man. Facial hair is an issue. Oh, there you go. So see, her universe is fucking tough. Hey, get rid of all that. Get rid of that right now. But you see how it's on her upper lip?

This lady has it on her chin. Hey, that's a whole problem. Chins. chins plural oh like around here yeah yeah that's what she looks like

yeah but it's that girl's shape no some bitches just that's what they get yeah well she's that's a you know what that's her that's so unattractive that's her

so unattractive to me would you rather have that or armpit hair I don't give a fuck I mean armoured hair I can work with actually what am I saying

yeah absolutely No hair on the face. None of it. None of it. The question is none of it. Yeah, I'm not a fan. No, fuck no.

Get your shit together. I remember there's a gal I dated for a little bit, and she was so amazing. But she, I mean, it's safe to say she never once even took a scissors to do things down there. I've never seen anything like it. You're 70s porn. No, but it was way worse. It was a disaster. It was a bear's ball.

Did you ever say anything? It was a bear's paw. No, but I said something to her. friend and she goes, yeah, she's a real Earth mother. I was like, but that's a bear's paw. Hey, let's say it's your daughter's not, but you know, I have a daughter too. If your daughter had a fucking beak, I'm talking like the penguin. Yeah.

Would you get her nose drop at like 17? I mean, it's a tough gig. Yeah, you know, that's why, that's why. I'm talking about a real humpback whale on that fucking nose. You would just want your children to be happy. And now with plastic surgery, that's what I'm saying, right? Once you kind of. Sure, a lot of girls do.

A ton. That's when they do it. A ton, yeah. I mean, nose job at 16 was always the thing for back in the day. It went as far back as when my mother was 16. Really? That long ago? I thought it was like a new thing.

Oh, no. They were doing rhinoplasty literally in 19, in the 50s. So if you were Jewish, if you were Italian, if you, the whole thing was like, these girls had this right of passage, right? So they would all, they would everybody, you know, certain ethnicities because they lived in a, in a culture that was a, a, white Anglo-Saxon culture with a small nose. And there was a lot of pressure to take your nose that might have been more ethnic,

more Sephardic, whatever the fuck it was. And be like, you got to bring that down. So kids did it all the time. Oh, wow. My mom did it. My mother did it. She was Italian with a beak. A beak.

Yeah. Not a good look. And she added none. Holy shit. What? Dates back to 600 to 800 to 800 BC. Ancient Rome did it. people always try to change up their looks

it's interesting you know like um you ever thought about any of that i i feel that my nose you know what your nose is turned to a light bulb that's the problem yeah so i looked into it's getting thick i was like why is it so thick here and that's because as you get older the cartilage expands or or check it out or the skin's too thick so yeah so you can do something you see that guy's the second one in oh that's bright. That's a great look. That's a great look.

What you have to do, that's a disaster. No, this one here's horrors. I don't even look on it. Yeah, well, that's like, well, no,

that's a tumor. But when your nose grows, you, you can, see, that you can get, left be right now. Yeah,

you can get your nose done. They, they take the cartilage down. And, but you got to be, it takes a long time to repair. Oh, see, can you slim a bulbus nose.

Yes, you can, you have a bulbus. I can go back to my old nose. When I was younger. go to my go to brian call on younger i had a i had a small by the way this is in turkey so you can hair and nose you looked into it and you can do something about oh yeah i was like what's going on my nose what's going on you looked into it and they said what see my young nose i see my young nose

i see that look at a difference look at how small my nose in the middle it's good on the left is starting to pop yeah but like not a bad nose there ching click on that brian interview 1997 see it oh that's great can you click on it oh actually interview yeah LA New York LA

LA New York most more LA eight months the year I'm doing a show out there so I've spent like eight months out there and then I come back and start in your adventure

yeah started here started doing standing and Aluna Lounge Rebar and then I got a show called Mad TV so I've been doing that for two years you're a handsome kid man bad

And that's right, I'm on TV. And then I, you know, I'm back here, man. And it's great. I'm getting up and just doing stand-up. You and Rogueling is so similar. I'm kind of like the Mormon brand of comedy. It's the rocked out ass, great bone structure, tapered waist, broad shoulders.

Same guy. The exact same guy. You've been doing the spiel for... I did it for like six months before I got the show. And then, yeah, I got lucky. But I was an actor. I went to neighborhood playhouse for two years. and then I did a lot of theater out of there

and I started writing plays because I couldn't get cast in the roles I wanted to get cast in and I was terrible but at least people would kind of laugh so I said maybe I'll try stand-up and I got up and started doing stand-up and I noticed the crowds

after when I'd be doing stand-up would be going same guy exactly same guy like in unison dude you look like fame it's tough to hear me over the microphone

after I tell my joke So I think that's a good sign. And then Fox came along and gave me an audition. And I got it. Out of stand-up, got you guilty. Yeah, pretty much. No, actually, no. A guy named Ken Trush,

who's my manager now, saw me at Rebar. I got up there, and I started working with him. That was the first thing he submitted me on. So I got lucky. I booked the show, and it went. What did you do that night of Rebar? I did a monologue on Skinhead Pigeons. Now, I ran into a bunch of skinhead pigeons.

they plucked their heads bald and, you know, had, like, tattoos like ducks suck and nesting in trees is for pussies and this whole thing, you know. And it was kind of interesting. Hi, this is Liz Lewis. I think, why don't you come sit next to me and we'll talk. Okay.

Liz Lewis, fantastic. Cash director, Extraordinary. Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. So what's like the worst thing that's happening on stage that's that you can go with?

The worst thing that's ever happened to me on stage is three minutes of silence. And the only way out is through Oh, okay. Yeah, thanks. Sorry. It's just the camera. That just allure me. Yeah, the worst thing I think is just a three minutes of silence. I was doing something on turtles on a turtle that didn't have a shell. I was trying to experiment. I had my shirt off. And I think that was probably a distraction in a bad way.

At Luna, actually. Yeah, or actually at the Rebar. If you performed any regular stand-up? Yeah, stand-up New York, comic strip, Austin Comedy Club. Not Carolines, but Catch Rising Star. Yeah, now the difference between. The difference is like alternative and alternative, you can eat it and you're cool.

And you can comment on how badly you're eating it. Whereas the regular standard club, you've got people out there from, you know, Bridget and Tunnel crowd or wherever they are. I want to see who want to laugh like this. So you've got to have stuff, you know, you've got to have that five, ten minutes that you've been working on and that you know down cold it's going to work.

But I think that's a cop out too. That's not exciting to me. I like getting up and trying to do something that's that I don't know if it's going to work but last night I did something I'd written it that morning and I almost screwed up because you know

you gotta get it in your body but it turned out to be okay that's a rush that's a good feeling but then ultimately you get a half hours of stuff that you know I'm talking like I've been doing this

for 10 years but I think I'm from from acting you know on stage and then you can act you can stand up is pretty easy or it's easier I like watching

yeah me too I can't keep going I just haven't seen I've just like you're the same guy I don't even know him Nobody knows me. So who's the comments you like today?

I like David Tell. I think David Tell's hilarious. I think Mark Merrin's hilarious. Because they're very honest, you know. I think Mark Merrin's very honest. He's very, he's just about what he, you know, he's just, he's very raw and he's very honest. He brings out who he is. I like Joe Logan a lot for that reason.

Joe Logan's on his radio. Joe's religious when it comes to stand up. He does it every night. He can never hang out, yeah. And he's a friend of mine in L.A. I'll draw names. and he makes he great. No.

But, you know, people like that who are, what they are concerned with is talking about what makes them who they are and everything else forget about it, whether it's funny or not. So why do you think these guys, I've been wondering, if guys like Davidel, Markman,

they're really good, honest comedians. They've been doing it for 10 years. They've been doing to, like, a show or something. Well, it's all a different thing, that's why. First, they've been doing it for 10 years, they have their thing. They, you know, David Telf from what I hear, I'll do three sets a night. And that's why he's so good, more than that, four sets of night, you know.

But I think standard comedy and acting are different animals. You know, they're completely different. You know, they're two totally different disciplines. Great actors who do great stage stuff could never get up on stage and just stand them. They'd be terrified. And I know a lot of stand-up comedians who can never get up on stage and act. Be honest. In a dramatic way, because there's so many different things.

A little bit off. You just stand-up, you've got a monologue. You know what you're going to do. You're working on it forever. It's a different art form. Help me back. I think, you know, I have a lot of respect for standard comics, but he can't tell me that I just think can't have a...

He's a leading man. On this side. That side is not a leading man. That side is... The right side's money. Yeah, the right side's money. The left side looks like serial killer. He looks like a little off.

He's the guy who kills you. You know what I am? I'm half-face. Yeah, two-face. I'm two-face. I'm two-face. And so, you know, I think Stanley.

That's fucking crazy, dude. It takes more than that. So you're okay watching yourself. Never, but, but, but I find it very interesting that certain things haven't changed. Isn't it weird? You don't know that guy. Isn't it weird?

You're looking like, what the fuck? You can see there, I was sincere. You can see I was really interested in being an artist. Exact same guy. Yeah, exactly same bullshit. Same jokes. You don't change. Even the little, little, like that kind of stuff.

I was cute, though. Girls love me. You were cute. Girls love me. I never, I never, it was, it was always, you know, I was that guy that you, um, Louis C.K. says that the skinny guy shows it with an Adam's apple. I'm here for all the pussy.

That was me. Girls love, they did. I was funny. I'd get up on stage and they just liked it. You and Rogan looked so similar about there. He used to always say, because he called me Joe Rogan Light. He was like, this guy, this guy is literally. Joe Rogan Light, look at us.

Brothers. People thought we were brothers forever. Yeah, you guys do look like brothers. Yeah. They really did think we were brothers. Yep. And we were cast as brothers and we just got along. Look at young Joseph there.

Handsome fucker. Yeah. Joseph was handsome. Handsome, strong jawed, muscular as fuck. Never missed a workout. Super opinionated. Oh, dude. We used to get an argument and just start shouting.

It was great. Man. Anyway. Look at you guys. Yeah. There you have it. I remember this. That was,

that was, I beat Zach Alfanakis out for that role. That was on, fucking Frazier. That was a big deal. When I got that show, that was a big deal. That was such a big deal.

Yeah. And the creator of that show was killed in 9-11. He was on that plane. What? Yep. Sitting in first. Frazier? Yep. He was an amazing guy too. I remember I saw Frazier in New York. I was there with my

girlfriend at the time and he was just all over her. Hey man. Yeah. Hey, Bubba. Yeah. It was a different time. I look at, I look at how different things were back then. It was crazy. Whoa. A character he was. He's a great guy. He's such a great guy. I was on a date with this girl who could not have been less interested in me could not have been less interested in me and i took her out to nobu in malibu

and it was you know so expensive and we're talking and he came over to the table and started talking to me uh and telling me how great i wasn't my pilot oh that's cool and he spent like 15 minutes in the time he was a huge star and that girl was so impressed that we didn't even get home he pulled over on the side of the road wow yeah now what what a what a assist from fraser get you what an assist And what's his name there? That other guy, you know, they were so rich. Niles. That him, he's a great guy, too.

I can't remember his name. Oh, that's right. Dude, they were so big? Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. Yep. And Frazier, he was married to, you know, I'm sure he's divorced now, but she was a real trophy wife.

David Hyde Pierce. David Hyde Pierce. A great actor and a wonderful human being. really great person. So spouse, Brian Hargrove. So funny. Just would always just, you know, anyway, I had a really good career in that sense.

It was really fun to. Oh, yeah, you've done some stuff. Yeah. Got to be around some really great people. Perry Gilpin, wow. See if Perry Gilpin's still married to Christian Vincent? Right there, Perry Gilpin, the one right there? Right there.

Yeah. You want to see her husband, right? I want to see if she's married to, he's a really good. Yeah. Christian Vincent. Good for them. Still married. He's a great artist.

He's a great artist. I wonder what he's up to. I have a painting of his. She was just a great person. They're fucking great people, man. You know, I have to say, you know, I'm around comedians. People give actors a hard time. There's some great people.

No, no. Just like anything. There's some great people. Because you know what it is with actors? They kind of have to listen. They're such good listeners if they're good. They're such good listeners. They're so affected.

Their skin is like so thin. It's a weird skill set. It's a weird skill set, but they're good. Pretend to be somebody else all the time? Disciplined. The actors that work are fucking disciplined. Super disciplined. You know?

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Right no, I do. I remember it very well. Great movie. Great movie. Scary. Dude, do you know what I saw last night

that scared the fucking shit out of me? Weapons. Did you see it? That's such a good movie. Is it good? Everyone's telling you to watch it. But it's so good. It's like film so well.

It's so good. And I, but I bring up, bring up. The class goes. missing yes and and and and i i i shouldn't be scared because i'm 59 oh i get scared a lot of time and she's great too this woman who is that actress that's amy madigan oh my god i knew god she's good amy madigan what josh brolin's in it yeah oh julia garner's amazing oh she's so good she's so cute justin long's great yeah justin long's great it's a hell of um A cast.

I have to watch it. It's so... I love it. We just mean Tiger in Houston watched for the first time. His pick, not mine. Black phone? Black phone?

Black phone? Black phone? Yeah, it's a scary movie. Basically, this guy in a black van... Oh, I saw this. Kills kids. I don't like it. It scared the shit out of me.

Tiger loved it. We watched it six times. It's a great movie, but it's so creepy, man. It's a creepy movie. And that's Ethan Hawke. Yeah, it's Ethan Hawke. Oh, shit. It's so well.

really good movie. It's well done. Really good movie. Really good movie. Yeah. And it takes place in my hometown. Yeah, man. Aurora?

Yeah. She's pretty. She's cool. But part two looks terrible. I didn't see part two, but looks awful. Well, you know,

it does its job, the first one, right? It's like... First one, that mask is fucking scary, right? It's either happier or sad.

And then he goes, you've been a naughty bull? Boy, such a good movie. It's not good. Ah, from Blumhouse, director of Sinister. Sinister's this scares me of all time. That's with Ethan Hawk, too. Yeah.

Again, more kid shit. The kid stuff always scares me the most. I know, man. Something about, they're singing a rhyme, and that's the way. Yeah, it's scary. And you are you? Horrible.

Yeah. Yeah, that was a great movie. Oh, yeah. I didn't know how a while, and I just saw it. I'm still so shocked at this Nancy Guthrie thing still nothing nothing nothing not a peep dude she's definitely dead

you've gone this long I assume they took her to Mexico I would imagine Mexico or they think there was a blood splatter blood splatter's never good at the scene yeah that's really weird and there was no negotiations with the kidnappers

that's weird retired FBI agent believes Nancy was carried out unconscious citing blood splatter evidence okay keep going down so she was forcefully taken from a residence she might have died there and then the guy just got so she was carried out I don't believe she walked out

I believe she was carried by two people keep going and I say that because of the blood droplets the fact that there's no void the fact that there's no footprint and it's almost like two guys carried her. Her head tilted in some way, shape, or form. It just came out right there. Maybe she coughed a little bit or something because it does look like one large circle. Yeah, she's probably...

Sounds like, maybe it was a robbery gun bad. Says if she was conscious, she'd have duct tape on her mouth or something along those lines. And the circle was round. If she had duct tape on the blood was coming out of her nose, it would have had different shape. Do I think she's alive now? I could just almost burst into tears because I was so hopeful. for so long, but I think too much time has passed. I'm so sad about it. Yeah, she, it, 83 blood at the scene. Also, what's interesting is who kidnapped the 83 year old?

It might have been, you know what I think? It could have very well been a robbery. They watched her. They're going into robber. Let's go robber. Nah, no one took anything. Well, but so they may have gone into robber. She was there. They grab her. She dies. And they're like, what the fuck do we do now? No, they were to get rid of the body. That desperate for money would have been like, all right, well,

let's get the shit. But they may have panicked and just put her in the fucking truck and run away. You're too gullible, blah, you're too gullible. And then you think they're that good to cover up everything,

all their tracks, everything to just thieves. Yeah. That ramley did it? No way. No way. I bet. No way.

Because they don't, when you break in, now it's hurt. No, this was predetermined. And just happens to be a famous. I don't think so. I don't think so. Guarantee.

You calculate. There's no footpressed. There's no money in it, right? You mean, you think for a ransom? Yeah. But they didn't ask for a $6 million. Yes, $6 million. Was it then, though?

Yes. They asked him for in crypto. Look that up. Because people ask, but we don't know if it was the actual kidnappers. That's the problem. Do you want to ask if they asked for crypto? Yeah, I like it.

No, just say did the kidnappers of Nancy Guthrie asked for money. Ransom, as the detectives like to call it chin. I don't think so. If we're it. And a ransom. No, weird. It's like I've been following it. A man was made through a ransom note.

Six million in Bitcoin. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that was that some, was that an opportunistic person, right? No, they think this is them and they can't track them. It's too calculated, it's too well done to be random criminals. Wow. And especially in that neighborhood, that neighborhood's not a crime. You wouldn't go there. Yeah.

You have to be like, show me evidence. She's awake. I got a piece so bad. We're back. What are you at, Jansder? All right. Have you seen this guy pop up in your feet some, like, randomly? He got in trouble for stolen valor, right?

Yeah. Kind of, yeah. His face was all messed up, right? And he was a five-year veteran, I think in the Air Force or something. And he said that he, a survivor of IED to the face. And that's why he changed his face? And turns out he didn't. No, this guy explains it perfectly, so just listen.

series video with questions that I have for this guy Malibu FitMax. If you don't know who Malibu FitMax is, he's very recently, like in the last month, just popped into the fitness stratosphere, millions of followers, millions of views on all his videos. And a question was posted me about two weeks ago where they sent me his profile and they said, hey, this guy Malibu Fitmax used to have IED survivor in his bio. He very recently removed it. We don't have to watch it. I can just tell you what happened.

No, let me see. I haven't seen it. Let me see. And if you look at his current bio, he's, he very recent. It says combat vet, but it doesn't mention the IED survivor. But this screenshot I have from his prior profile says Survivor of IED to the face right there, which has been removed. Now, that could mean totally nothing at all. But it made me say, huh, let me just look into this.

I want to show you guys what I found. I want you to come to your own conclusions. And then I want to show you a conversation that I had with Malibu Fitmax. A few pieces of clarifying information. Malibu Fitmax himself says that he was in the 293 military police CEO. He says that in this comment right here. And Malibu himself, multiple times said he survived an IAD to the face, used to have in his bio, and has since removed it. Malibu told a news reporter that in 2010 is when this happened.

He was discharged for the military in 2010 after an IAD blew up in his face in Afghanistan. That's what he said 2010. I also need to show you what Malibu was doing in 2010. Hold on. In June 17 of 2010, date right here, he competed in this bodybuilding show. Assuming that this is the same Lee Markham, he placed third in the lightweight category. In October of 2010, he hears him at a speaking engagement to his father posted on his father's YouTube channel. We know this is him because one, well, it looks just like him.

And two, he commented 15 years ago, first from the username Malibu Markham, Lee Markham is his real name. I want you to listen to some of the content that he said during this lecture. So in 2010, he competed in a bodybuilding show in July, did a speaking arrangement in October. graduated from the University of Maryland and at some other point in 2010 survived an IED to the face. Wow in Afghanistan. Now he does mention his service during this cliff. Let me show you. This 15 minute lecture, he does mention his service.

He does not mention an IED or anything to that effect. This is filmed in 2010 October, which should be the year that he said himself that he took an IED to the face on his deployment. Now I'm just presenting facts, guys. another fact that we talked about in the beginning of this video. He said he's from the 293 MPCO. If you Google any of these, I can Google the 293rd MPCO. You will see a registry of any injuries that happen, stuff like that. So I did do that.

And there were multiple news articles posted on the day that they all returned home from deployment, the 293MP company. They do mention injuries in this very article from that MP coming back. They list them here. There was one death, staff sergeant Christopher Ratzinski. He was killed in action. They list three injuries. First Lieutenant Bergen-Flanagan, PFC Michael Arrucho, and PFC Stephen Markham. They say that they were seriously wounded in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. And they do want to mention the article that the 293 MP company has only deployed five times since 9-11 at the time that this article was written. That prior homecoming article makes no mention of a Lee Markham. It does mention this man, Stephen Markham. Markham, who received a purple heart and was injured during that explosion. Now, this document was sent to me showing Lee Markham, same birthday, with active duty start and end date September 2005 to September 2010.

So I think this document could go as far to say that he was in the service from those five years when he was on stage back during that 2010 October interview or speech or whatever he was doing. What he was saying was true. He had just returned back from a five-year, or he had just finished a five-year career. in the military. Now, in my investigation, I have spoken to several members that were in the 293rd military police company. None of them remember Lee Markham. I showed the photos. They were aware of who he was on social media, but they did not remember serving with this guy, and none of them remembered him getting

injured. And now when one of the phone calls, FaceTime that I had was somebody that was in the 293rd and had deployed on that deployment, when I asked about people that were injured, he immediately, immediately rattled off all four names, the injuries and days that they were injured to crazy detail. And I said, how do you know, how are you so specific about this? And he told me, when somebody gets hurt, it's a big deal. They offer, I guess, mental health counseling to them the day after. There's a whole thing. They make a big to do of it. And when they get back, you know, these people are celebrated and they're giving them purple hearts. So he said he would never forget that. So I guess that just goes as far to say that it would be very difficult for Lee to have been injured on. that battalion and that guy and the others not know about it.

So this just leaves a lot of like questions, right? You can stop at you? Now I have Lee's number. So is he saying that's why his face is like that? What happened was, yes. So what happened was it turns out he did serve in the military for five years. He was not injured. He did not take an IAD and here he is.

Oh, he talks about him? Yeah. Give me one sec. And this is what happens when you build a platform on false pretense. This is like liver king shit. Just can't lie. This is worse than liver king. All right.

So I'll pay you this. Valor? Way worse than liver king. Yeah. This is Malibu. I wanted to talk to you directly about the claim that I made taking an IED blast to the face. Before anything else, I want to be clear. I did serve between 2005 and 2010.

That part of my life is something that I've always been proud of. I've always had deep respect for the men and women who served alongside me, especially those who suffered more than I ever have. I've always got comments about my face and appearance. Some of them were harsh. To be honest, I didn't handle it well. I was new to being in the public eye, and I didn't know how to handle the criticism. Instead of facing that right away, I made a bad decision

and put IED survivor in my bio. That was not true, and it was wrong. Truly, I'm sorry from the bottom of my heart. I have always tried to promote positivity. promote positivity and support for others, especially veterans. But I understand that my actions here contradict that. I take full responsibility for it. I know words alone will not, hey guys, smell.

And so for me, like, if you read the comments, they're pretty, they're pretty understanding. Are they? Yeah, because, like. What about the community? Like, for, like, look, look, look, the guy, the guy is insecure about his face. He made up a story. and you know when you're that when you're you say you're sorry you know I made a bad decision what else you're all human beings yeah I get it like yeah like you know like what are you

gonna do kick him more like he obviously is not very happy with the way he looks he's tried to change the way he didn't double down on it yeah you know yeah and sometimes it's like you know but also I think it's different first because we didn't serve you know what I'm saying even if you serve like this whole thing is like look no I disagree with that I disagree with that but but but but but I'm just saying like you make a mistake you fucked up yeah but stolen valor's not you know we don't understand you're not from that life is it stolen valor or is it stolen valor or is it a guy who's just he's just kind of a really insecure came up with hitting mad made a bad decision what I'm trying to say is people make bad decisions it doesn't you know and people I understand

why people are like eh you know now you're going to pay a price for it you know I think I think you and I are going to no I'm not saying you and I'm not saying you and I don't saying, eh, what I'm saying is that, what I'm saying is that I feel, especially the boys in the platoon, I feel like in life, there are things you can apologize for. Now, it doesn't mean you're not going to pay a price. Doesn't mean you're not going to lose followers. You're not going to make his money. But, but I'm not, I'm not going to kick him, I'm not going to continue to kick a dead horse. It's like, I go, I go, can't lie, dude. That's what happens, you know. Yeah. I mean, you're going to face, whatever it is, you, you're going to face it. But at least he said,

at least he came clean and said, hey, I fucked up. Like, at least. Now, part of that's maybe because he got caught, but he did take down IED survivor beforehand. I don't know. I don't know. But at the end of the day, I didn't see him before this. I wasn't aware of them even before this. For me, at the end of the day, when I look at a guy like this at my age with the hair and the lips that have been done and all that and how all the stuff he's done to change his body, I'm already going. That guy is not mentally, there's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. Here's the other thing. I'm not being mean, I'm not dark, nor do I care.

Yeah. That's a gay man though, yeah? Whatever it is, there's a lot going on. It also could be a Malibu accent. Or he's gay as shit. It doesn't matter. But what I'm saying is that when I'm saying that when I see that already, like when I see it, I'm already not really taking, not to be mean, I'm not taking

serious. Right. Or at least I'm saying. I'm not looking for him for motivation. You know, there's a book I'm reading by Chase Hughes. He was a CIA profiler and he, look he reads human behavior and he's really good at looking at somebody and telling you whether they're receiving you or not is a thousand things we do with our bodies and one of the things

he said is he goes you know what once you learn how to read people's behavior you the one thing you realize is so many people are afraid and hurting nobody feels like a man nobody feels like an adult everybody is that kid that scared kid and you do a thousand things as i get older i just see what I see with that guy before I even knew about this is one big wound one big psychological sort of wound I just do and that's why he put on all that armor that's why he looks that way that's why he's doing that shit to his face so did he lie about it not surprising it's not surprising apparently do I think he lied because he's evil do I think he lied because he he he doesn't have respect for people that serve no I think he lied because he's just

totally insecure and he made a deal with the devil. That's what I think. Apparently he's such a positive person. That's what people fell in. Oh, really? Yeah. He's like a really positive. So that doesn't change anything.

No, but he's obviously the people in the military that were injured and his, you know, his, that's where that's like, fuck. We all know that though. We know that he knows that. You know, he knows that. Yep. As long as he's positive and keeps. And that's why people like doing good work.

Yeah. I'm not familiar with him. So this is the first I've heard of him. He's a vulnerable character. Like if you see him, he's already vulnerable. We already go, what's called on? Just looking how I'd go. You know what I'm saying?

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You go, oh. Yeah. If I saw you, and you hear my cheeks and lips. Hey, remember when you were so swollen

because you were doing everything? I didn't say anything, but I was like, he's going to do a hard time right now. Yeah. Yeah, Brian sent me this. Go on. We don't, yeah. Okay.

So it used to be that UFC was the best place that you could come in combat sports to to make a living and be paid fairly. And now it's no longer, it's one of the worst places to go. It's why so many of their top athletes are leaving to go and find pay elsewhere. It's why their champions like Valentina are selling pictures of their titties on only fans. You know, like these people are, a lot of them at the, ground level, they can't even, they can't support their families. They're living poverty

level fighting full time. And this company just got $7.7 billion. Like, there's no reason that they can't afford to pay their athletes at least a living wage. And not even that, to least be able to match what these athletes are

making in other sports. Why are you going, why would they expect to get the best athletes and these best aspiring kids that want to be something into MMA. Why not go into football? Why not go into boxing? Why not go into anything else?

And so they're bleeding talents because of their short-term greed. They're thinking about the next quarter. They're thinking about the shareholders. And they're not thinking about their responsibility to be, you know, stewards of the future of the sport. I think she's all facts. I think that's such a hundred percent correct. Yeah. But also, everyone like, oh, wow, Rhonda, this is like, oh, she's been gone for a while. Like, you forget what made her a star.

She's a-hawn is a fucking monster. She's a monster. She's great on the mic. She speaks facts. She speaks fire. Dude, she don't give a fuck. And now that, now she's playing for another team, you don't want her as an enemy. Yeah.

She's a fucking monster, dude. Well, we're so used, this is how far the UFC's falling off. were so used to the current UFC fighter like Sugar going yeah they paid Connor Ben $15 million I'm sure there's a reason

it's okay I have no idea what I'm getting paid people forget the old school guys like my class no buddy no no no no they spoke their minds man especially with Rhonda

like those guys didn't fuck around How much of these guys making do you know? Who what guys? Like say say someone like olivera 600,000 maybe and after taxes and everything else that's it

so very few are making a living wage correct like so it's always been there way San Denny or someone like that what do you think he's made BSD? Yeah maybe low six figures per fight wow it's twice a year

that ain't enough I saw this post hold up 15 mil 15 mil for Connor Ben The total is $6 million. And total $6 million for all those guys. All those guys. Think how much money the UFC has made off the light.

Liverer has almost 10 million Instagram followers. Yeah, but yeah. But think of the amount of money the UFC's made off Charles O'Levara fights and Max Holloway fights alone. God. And then you barely pay these guys? Yeah, I think that's. But with Ronda, I see no lies to detect. I think it's bad business at the end of the day.

I think it's bad business, right? In other words, they're suffering from it now because now it's like you look at the heavyweight division, look at other divisions. Like, dude, where's all the athletes? Remember when, I was like one of the first like guy to go from pro football, college football to UFC? They're like, man, the influx is coming. Look at Brendan. Look at Brock Lesnar. Look at Matt Matreone.

We're the three originals. It's like, man, think about it. Those guys that are playing football are going to start fighting. No. None of them. It never came. Why would you? There's no money.

Right. It's too tough of a gig. Why would you go into it? But also, why would you do it? And then also, look how the movies ended for John Jones. Hold on. The greatest of all time, bar none. Say what you want outside the octon.

I'm talking about his work inside the cage. Say what you want about it. Danes goes, ah, arthritis, not very good. He'll never fight again. So the best of all time, that's how they treat him. That's how his movie ends. Damn. So if you're an athletic kid, you have any athletic ability, you're going, fuck that.

You know what happens in my mind? if I see a kid going into MMA, I go, that must be, you must be at rock bottom. Like, you must come from rock bottom and you want to stay at rock bottom. It's like it cheapens the sport. The sport now becomes a poor man sport where he goes, hey, he has to fight MMA. It's not glamorous at all. Even if they're in the UFC, you're like, that's sad. You want that for your sport?

You want people to go, if you say I play professional football, we all go, professional baseball, what? Professional basketball, what? Professional hockey. But to be fair, too, if people find out, even now, with me, it's like, fuck, you're in the UFC? It's like, yeah. Most of them don't, they assume you're rich. Fuck, you're in the UFC, man? Yeah, yeah.

But it's not like we're getting paid like Patrick McHenry. You know, they just don't understand. People assume professional athlete, assume they see on TV, you have all this money. But the thing is, you guys have the highest respect out of all of the sports. Well, you walk in a room, any UFC fighter that's made, you know, did their dues, you walk in a room, Every athlete goes, oh shit. Exactly. 100%.

Any job in the world, actors, people need scientists, people need dignity. People need dignity. They don't want a roommate in their 30s. You don't want to roommate in your 30s. There's got to be a way to create incentive for the next generation of actions. The problem is they don't have to.

Right now. So right now they sign their $7.7 billion deal. So the UFC's good. Dana will be out of there by the time this deal is over. So he doesn't care. The UFC doesn't care. They have basically a business guy running an operation who has no knowledge of football. That's why it's all business.

He came from six flags and Washington Redskins. Now he's trying to make sure the U.S.E. has the most profit for its shareholders. Okay, all good. You got a business guy who's done no shit dick about fighting. Here's what's going to, I can guarantee. What's going to happen is in the next five years, you're going to have no stars, no good fighters. And they're going to go over to.

And that end of the seven years, Paramount's going like, dude, we got fuck. Yeah. But not only that, Bob, not like that. And then what do you do? And then another young. somebody's going to fill that vacuum. You're going to have these super fights on Netflix and things like that. That's not filling the vacuum.

So you have to be such an outlier in order to fight for Netflix. You have to be 1% of the 1% percent. But if John Jones right now and. Yeah. And that doesn't solve the equation. Right. So, and I'm glad Netflix is doing their thing. And everyone wants to make fun of Jake Paul MVP.

But he's creating a lane for Tom Asimol, Francis. John John Jones, Nate Diaz. All those guys will be able to do that. Now, there's maybe eight fucking fighters in the history of the sport that can do that. So that doesn't fill the vacuum. But it's something. I will say this. I would almost say this.

It would be interesting if you get all of those people. All of a sudden, Netflix starts to see that people are willing to watch this. If you wanted to start a league, no. No. No. Too much. Too much. Is MMA itself, is MMA itself a very hard business?

to make money in because stars and people get injured and they don't last very long? No. No, UFC did it? Yeah. They did it. They did it well. They're back in the Fritita brother.

Dana White did it very well. It's just that- Brian, he's the only profitable organization in combat sports history. So my question, all this is when people want to talk about Fighter Pay, I would love to hear the incentive of to do it another way. This might just be the game. Now what happens is if that is,

that is the game, you're not going to get those stars in that's what I'm saying. And so if the game is that, there has to be a medium. Yeah. I would say, I would assume there has to be a medium, but then also long term business wise, you want to, you want to pay your fighters at least a living wage so that you create incentive and you want to make examples of the stars where they make a lot of money and so you have something to reach for. Well, and you want to be able to John Jones should go off on, on, on, in a place of glory. Because that, that, that's a north You should go off like Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes or Michael Jordan. But there are no North Stars.

There's no kid that no, there's going to mean no young kids that are aspiring to be UFC fighters. Because if their dad's no shit about anything, they're like, buddy. North Stars are the people that left. North Stars are Ronner Rossi. North Stars are Connor McGregor. North Stars are people that got out when we still wanted them to fight and stopped fighting. That's the North Star. But I don't think that's good.

Because he's never going to fight. Another example. There you go. The dark horse in all this is Raff, RASL wrestling. Because a lot of your crem de la crem, especially if you look at the champions now, they all have wrestling backgrounds. The reason they would go into MMA,

wrestlers don't want to get punched in the face. That's terrible. They want to use their skill sets and make money. Well, now you can. Now there's NIL deals in college. So there's guys at Penn State's making hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars. guys at Ohio State, Iowa, Oklahoma State.

And now R-A-F is paying guys millions of dollars? Wow. Well, I love it. Wrestlers are the best athletes on the planet. They're the best. I fucking love them. Now they have an avenue where they don't have to get punched in the face and shill out for Dana White and the UFC.

So although if you're a UFC fan and you love R-A-F, it's probably going to hurt the UF more than anything. R-F or is R-W? R-A-F. Real American freestyle? Yes. It's awesome. They're creating waves.

Yep. It's really, really cool. Yeah. And Hulk Hogan founded it. And also... Did he? Yep. Wow.

But also, one thing that should be of note here, right now, RIF is making a ton of money off other, like, former UFC guys or current UFC guys. Trust me when I tell you this, that will stop pretty soon. What will? The UFC being able to compete in RAF. Why, they'll stop it. They'll kabash it. Guarantee it.

That's so. It's only a matter of time. That's so fucked up. They're going to kabosh it. Because in the contract, technically you can't, like, I was the first one to do MetaMorce. I was the first one to compete in another organization. Didn't Dana say it just don't get hurt? Yep.

I was the first one. Now, in the contract, legally, I'm not allowed to do that. Yeah. So the contract, John Jones, you had to get it, all these boys signed. It actually says, You can't compete in any other organization. That's standard. Standard.

Yeah. So you have to get the okay from the USC. Trust me when I say this, that will stop very soon. They're getting too much attention. They're getting too big. Yeah. But then as a fighter, you're like, well, I thought you weren't a monopoly. I'm not an employee.

Yeah. So then there's going to be that argument. It's going to get weird, man. It's also not fighting. It's a different sport. It doesn't matter. It's part of combat sports. In your contract, that's what it says.

You could say that real. American wrestling isn't a combat sport. You can make the argument. It's a different, it's a sport. You can't though. You can't in the con. Trust me, Bubba. The UFC lawyers,

the reason why fighters have to fight the way they do and the amount that you paid, they have the best lawyers on the planet. Their shit is locked tight. You're not getting out of it. So when people go, oh, John just can go to Netflix and fight Francis. I had this discussion with Nick Sim,

our boy Nick. I go, really? You realize he has to get a release from Dana in order to do that. He still has fights on his contract. Yeah, but Connor, Connor? So let me get this straight. You think Dana, Dana, who holds grudges against everybody, is going to release the two biggest stars in an organization to go.

He still has them under contract. Yeah, fuck yeah. To go fight for Netflix, even though he's not using them. He said John's never going to fight. He still got him under go. A fucking, nope. But I called, if I'm John, I called it, buddy, listen, we had a good run. Let me go over here, fight Francis.

I'm going to make $30, $40 million, and I'm upset, buddy. You owe this to me, man. What's wrong with you? You're not going to use, what the fuck is wrong with you? This is where I get off the Dana train. I usually support them in most aspects. This, what are you doing? What the fuck are you doing?

This guy that's given 20 years of his body has arthritis in his fucking hip needs a hip replacement. CT up the fucking yin-yang. There's a reason why he's acting the way he's acting. And then he can go make life-changing, never has to work again. Life-changing money. And hold on. You're going to hold him because you're worried about what, motherfucker? I don't get it.

I don't get it. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? All the money you paid, Conn McGregor, which is the most underpaid fighter of all time, if you want to have that discussion. And he wants to get out and fight Nate Diaz on Netflix, a neuronic card, and you won't let it happen? Why, dude?

You get $7.7 billion, no matter what. No matter what the dog shit card you give us, no matter what. Has anybody asked those questions? No, Brian, because let's say it's freedom of speech, but then they force you to send your questions before you interview them. And then they force you to send the interview you so they can edit it in case you ask something that wasn't on the script.

I would love to ask you. So define freedom of speech. Yeah. Now, they're crushing it for them, for their shareholders, but the sport's never been worse. And anybody tells you different, it's full of shit and hasn't been around long enough. The sport has never been worse. Watered down cards, no stars. Heavyweight division is a fucking shell of itself.

I don't know if anybody's paying attention. The women's division is completely. Completely alienated and depleted. No women are signed up either, buddy. Now, what's weird is you know what the number one growing sport in America is? Women's wrestling. Yeah. But there's no women fighters.

Why is that? Yeah. Because they don't get fucking paid. Who wants to get punched in the face and not make money? Something's not equal up here. Well, what I love about capitalism is that that'll find its way. You're going to have to find, you're going to have to find an equilibrium or ultimately. But again, you know, we're talking five years from now, 10 years from now, it's going

It's a great way to kind of... The problem is when you hire a business person to run a fight business that has no skin in the game, has no background fighting, demon fucking do karate as a kid, doesn't know the fighters, he's just looking at very black and white numbers. You're, you've lost. You've lost. Yeah, but our shareholders, no, no, no, I get it. I get it.

Talk to me in seven years. Yeah. The long game, they're sinking the ship. The ship is sinking. There's holes everywhere. man oh man to wrap all this up ronda's spot on and by the way brian i was actually had your

i was back in europe on your point because you know when fighters like brenna come into you know what he said when he comes to a room everyone guard that's what who garners the most respect so that of course they deserve the most money well it's just a bummer to me it does suck yeah just so you know too it's always been around 15 to 8% of the total profit is what they pay the fighters So Dana signed a 7.7 billion deal and they're like, fighter pay one up.

It's still 15 to 18 percent of the total profit. Nothing changed, guys. Yeah, but they're making more. I know, but it's still only about 17% of total profits. And the rest of the leagues are basically 50-50. Yeah, I don't get it. Some people need more and more and more. What else you got?

So that girl that, Did the, that slipped that weird-ass word? She was on the breakfast club. She said, remember she said, oh, fart, something, ninja. So I just let her remember. Yeah. And her old.

Fart Digger and Fart Knocker. You used those terms before? So, okay, so Fart Knocker, yes. Absolutely fart digger. You know what, again, I, do you, do you have boys in here? Do you have boys? Yeah, I have two boys. I have one.

Okay, so boys talk about, farts all the time. Okay, so and again, I can't swear on my show. Okay, so yes, I've made up these crazy words. If you said fart digger, the amount of times that you said, I just feel

like you should have released that a million and one times because it just seems like it's something that you said before because it just came out so now. And fart digger sound like you're playing at apples all all day. Why? That's a little names. That's another conversation. No, no. And again, I don't have, I don't have, I don't have a rhyme or reason

of the words that I make up. Like, I say, I say nonsense and stuff all the time. And again, like, even when I edit my shows, right? And I'll be editing my shows and I'll be like, just be like, I fucked up. Just finish what the fuck you're saying. Because I go off, I'm like, this and that, and I'm off the cuff.

I'm not scripted. So were you trying to say something else in that morning? Absolutely. Because you say fart digger and fart knocker. I say all that. I do. I did, and I do. I apologize.

I did. I did. Right there. Yes, I do. And to everyone out there, just, Charlemagne's that you're aware, that is a word that I do not condone. So the people out there that do not use me as an example, right?

That's where I've been coming out against people saying, hey, just because I said it, I made a mistake. I know I made it mistake. You watch that footage. Even the edited bullshit. You know that I am like, ugh. So no, don't use me as your poster child for that.

And I don't want you to think that coming on the breakfast club they're just going to rehabilitate your image. Absolutely not. In fact, it might increase the chances if you walking through the airport and somebody going, that's the fart. Yeah, no, I mean, you have a lot of people. And again, I didn't come on here

to prove myself. It says you used the term. Yeah, I wouldn't have went on me. I mean, I mean, it's not going to, you know, also that he annoys me too, by the way, just so you know. He's getting tough. I mean, it's like, all right, dude.

You know, like, everybody's got to put up appearances. It's a disaster. It's like, she said, sorry, it's fucked though, I don't know. That's how he built himself to say. But like her going on that, I would never have, I would have been like, you got to just lay low and just get the fuck out of. Just lay low.

And also I think she said financially, what are you doing? I mean, you know, but you want to like, do you want to rehabilitate? He's not going to help you out. No, no. None of those people are your friends. No, he's like I watched Charlemagne go bad on, on, what's that singer's name? Who's really great? Billy Alice?

No. Guy, a girl? guy tattoos on his face postman lachie six nine no that fucking guys post malone yeah post malone he went bad on postman oh so bad post he's great so bad when nobody knew post and he's such a sweet guy so it's like shut up no i used to like charlemagne a lot more care i don't care i don't care i don't watch a show i don't know him and shultz together brilliant idiots is good yeah sure this is just a nice quick one remember Ben Ascran and Jorge Mawr were very, very much big-time enemies. But then after the stuff that Ben went through, Jorge wanted to meet up with him.

They ended up meeting up and they found out that they have way more in common than not. It's just a good story. Jorge is the best. So is Ben. Yeah. They're both off. Those guys are fucking great. They're both great.

And Ben's like gaining weight to it. It's kind of wild that this is him. Yeah, hopefully he's okay. Yeah, man. But. It's so cool. All right, here's, this one's silly, but I just wanted to show you guys. I don't know how much it's going to play.

So this woman or this girl, she's like an animal rights activist, and she's taking, like, this guy was fishing with his kids, and she took the pole. Hold on. You're so dumb. That's a private property, dummy. Because she doesn't want him fishing with his kids? Your child's distress yet because of you, lady. How would you like a hook in your mouth?

You had a life. get a fucking life but people do she has like a decent following too it's it's kind of she does you got plenty of cuckoo birds out there like this yeah i mean you know she just needs 50 000 followers i mean decent considering what she does i mean something you know vegans are typically insane rogan said that he'd never gotten more hate from anybody other than vegans like vegans are militant because they need something to believe in it's like she is she's religious they're they're religious fanatics. It's a it's a it's a type of religion. Look at her. No, she was terrible. All right. So the LA Marathon just happened and I don't know if you guys saw it like the dude that

was winning entirely the whole time. He got diverted. I have a feeling you guys are going to talk to he lost at the last second because this guy was a subsuit teacher turned it on at the last second and beat him. But then there's people that came in like this woman and then you know like there's like cars that kind of guide them in a way. way, the leading car kind of turned to the right so he followed the car and went the wrong way. And then he came back, but the winning sequence was crazy. And I bet you the video's not going to work now. This guy's a high school, or I think he's a subsuit teacher.

They're diverting kind of turning to the right. He's like, oh shit. Oh, no. That's the subsuit teacher. He turns it on. So this guy thinks he's going to win. Look at this, dude. look last second

boom oh my god oh my god imagine that's your teacher that'd be good he had such a lead what marathon that's LA LA marathon wow hey fair and square right

yeah it has nothing do with the substitute teacher he's like what the fuck I'm just running no that guy no of course not it's just this guy got diverting that's why yeah but what are you gonna do don't get diverted yeah and this stupid shit

Oh, the, yeah, I hate. It's like a very skinny Kenyan or Ethiopian guy. Oh, yeah. That win these marathons? Yeah, the marathon runners don't have the kind of bodies you want. And that's another thing, too. They're saying, like, he didn't realize how much of a lead he had because maybe he was just coasting, but he did look back like multiple times. Like, he knew where the other dude was at.

Wow. All right. Well, there you go. All right. Cool. That's it. Hey, guys. Calgary this weekend, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

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