The Fighter & The Kid - There’s One Guy Who Could Beat Islam Makhachev | TFATK Ep. 1158
Episode Date: January 22, 2026On this episode of The Fighter and The Kid, the guys break down the dominance of Islam Makhachev and debate whether there’s actually a fighter who could beat him. From stylis...tic matchups and grappling pressure to championship experience and mental toughness, the conversation explores what it would really take to dethrone the lightweight king.With comedian Nick Simmons in the third chair, the discussion mixes serious MMA analysis with classic TFATK banter, hypotheticals, and the kind of arguments fight fans love to have. A must-watch episode for anyone debating the future of the lightweight division. Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkStash - Don’t let your money sit around—put it to work with Stash. Go to http://get.stash.com/fighter to see how you can receive TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS towards your first stock purchase and to view important disclosures.DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code FIGHTER. That's code FIGHTER to turn five bucks into three hundred in bonus bets if your bet wins.O'Reilly Auto Parts- https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERProgressive - Visit https://www.progressive.com/ after this episode to see if you could save.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is really the fighter and the kid.
Come on, baby.
I like chinger.
Chinger, yeah.
Chinger is a good name.
Chinger.
Chinger.
Chinger.
Chinger.
Yeah, I mixed it up.
Chinger's a mix.
I like chinser's a mixed chister.
I like chinser.
Yeah, but chinger is a deering.
That's endearing.
Chinjee.
Chinjee.
Ching.
Do we like chingingie?
Chingie.
Got to be careful.
Yeah, I'll be careful that one, but that's also a rapper.
Yeah.
That's my bailout.
Ching is a rapper.
Yeah, Chin.
I don't know if Chin like that one.
Bobby Lee called him Chin Chin, and I thought that was super racist.
I can't do that.
I call him Chin Chin all the time.
Yeah, well, you're racist.
That's cute.
Chin Chin Chin's kind of,
you're a closet racist.
No, no, no, Chin Chin.
Switchin has that hat on.
Chin Chin Chin.
Yeah.
Chincheon.
Chin, what is your real name?
Jin.
I fucked up.
Gin?
Yeah.
When I became a natural citizen, I changed it to Chin.
Do you what a gin is?
A gin is a man, a supernatural man who kind of,
kind of a demon who leads wayward men astray.
Yeah, it's a cool name, but everyone kept calling me,
they call me Chin or Jim.
I'm like, no, it's, it's gin.
They kept calling me chin, and eventually everyone started calling me Chin,
so I changed it.
He grew up in Texas, dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gin is, but now I regret it.
Gin is like, yeah, but gin's my legal real name.
Gin is a drink.
I thought there's, no, J-I-N.
Chinese, and you guys called him that.
Do you know what I want to name my kid,
I'm actually Korean, bro?
I wanted to name my kid Karate Calland.
And my wife was like, I'm kind of down.
her mother was like, you can't.
Oh, that'd been awesome.
Karate Call would be sick.
I think it's a great name, Karate Callie.
How about Tripoli?
When, how about Tripoli?
How about Tripoli was like, I'm named my kid Ghost and Ninja?
And he did.
And I went, absolutely, do it.
You think I'm like, fuck yeah, that'd be cool, man.
Ghost and he did it.
That's so safe.
My name is Ghost.
Ghost?
I think it's their middle name, though, right?
I don't know.
I think his wife's like, I'm down, but that's their middle name.
Karate Callan might be the greatest name ever.
Crotty Callan is great.
Isn't that great?
My wife has to be a good.
fighter though.
I like Kung Fu.
That kid needs to train from birth.
Or it's just a girl.
You know, I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean,
that'd be,
yeah,
it's like,
you know karate?
Nope,
I sure don't.
My name is karate.
My name is Karate.
My dad was really in a karate.
Here's my accountant,
Karate Kallin.
First day at school is like,
what's your name?
Karate.
My name is Karate.
My name is Karate.
My parents were assholes.
Dude,
that'd be great.
It's pronounced.
It's pronounced karate.
My dad says karate,
but,
uh,
it's karate.
You just call me crats.
Spell it's K-A-H-H-H-K-R-T-R-T.
Well, they're either going to excel in karate or if it's a female, it's going to be a stripper.
Or it's coming to the stage.
Karatee Call-H-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-E.
Her dad was never around.
He was a comic-chasing, chasing approval.
Get ready.
Bella's watch your face because the high kicks are coming.
It's Karate-K-R-E-K-L-E.
She's got bruises on her thighs, and you can catch 78-year-year-old Brian Callan at the San Jose
Hip-Hmp.
This weekend, Friday Saturday.
Hey, that was good.
Hey, are you a fan of karate calendar?
Yeah, she'll do a spinning back kick and hit you with her titties.
Oh, her dad needs help selling tickets this weekend.
San Jose.
She does take money.
She does take money.
She takes money.
Dad can't sell tickets.
She'll take your money, but then also help her dad out.
He's in the corner over there.
Dad's Hollywood Dreams never really came to fruition.
He's banking on his daughter, collect at least $100 a night, gentlemen.
Go ahead and give it up for karate.
Got a lot of friends that are really successful in the business,
and none of them give him a part in a movie.
Hey, you guys like,
hey,
you guys like karate,
Cali.
Yeah,
she's fantastic.
It gives the best hand job.
Hey,
listen,
her dad could sure you some help.
Maybe you've seen,
uh,
maybe you've seen the hangover.
Oh,
you have it.
Well,
fuck me.
Well,
most of you weren't born by then,
but he's still cracking,
guys.
78 years old,
still flying coach.
Here's the thing,
everybody.
Also,
you see him and he's going to get.
Also, if you see him in boarding group D on Southwest, give him away.
He's still posting videos.
Funny videos on Instagram.
Remember Instagram?
He's never been able to figure out his social media.
He is trying.
He keeps showing ass shots of karate call.
The good news is he's still asking Brennan about Jiu-Chitsu.
He's not on testosterone yet because he claims it's still high, high, high.
Oh, fuck.
Dude, I love this DJ.
Karate Kalin.
Karate Kalin.
KS. 107.5.
He is, she is related to
Brian Kalen, the comic.
I see you guys scratching your head.
Well, we're going to play some of his hangover clips
over her dance.
A little fun fact about karate
Callan, yeah, it's not just those big tits that are awesome.
Her dad was in the hangover.
Give it up for Karate Kalin.
Her tits are about as saggy as his nut sack
because she can't afford fake ones.
sad.
Sad.
Sad music stops.
She slowly walks off stage.
He's here.
She falls.
Just no rhythm.
We're back though.
Nick's back.
Nick at this point,
you're not even a guest, dude.
You're just,
you're the third co-host, dude.
Yeah.
You're looking a lot smaller.
Are you not lifting?
Oh, wow.
A piece of shit.
Worst thing to say to say to a guy.
Worst thing to say,
You know it's fucked up?
I know you're joking,
but I feel it.
I feel it.
I know you do.
Because I was about to like actually go,
well,
it's the shit.
My girl's mom got me this shirt
and the shirt's not as tight.
It's a little loose.
It's Lulu Lemon.
That's a little lemon,
baby.
Yeah, Lulu Lemon.
Yeah, you'll be careful with that.
You're wearing,
you seem to be doing a lot of duck hunting,
it seems.
Like you're,
there's a lot of camo going on with you.
Really?
I don't wear camo on a while.
Well, I guess it's where my Cam Haynes had on Monday.
Yeah.
The audience didn't see it because I had to leave.
But that looks like a first light shirt or something.
That's a, did you get that?
That's my archery country?
No, no.
This is my boy, Mike Studs brand.
Okay.
Are you getting full born to huntin now?
No.
No.
I just like camo.
I mean,
I'll shut my bone arrow maybe twice.
That's not going to last you.
Yeah.
I just don't have time.
I mean,
I'm supposed to go on a hunt in February.
But also, if I miss, I miss.
It's all good, baby.
I'm there for the hang.
You're not, you're not honing your sight.
Now, I'm there for the hang.
That's the thing about bow hunting like a.
The first day I went to the bohunting place, I was like, fuck, I need to get a boat.
Love it.
And then I just didn't go back for like two months.
Yeah, I just, I don't know.
I don't know when I would go.
Yeah, I love it.
And I'm still going to go on hunting.
It's what you do here, but it's just, like shooting a gun.
Like, every time you do, we go out and shoot guns, it's, fuck, I'm like, I need to get a gun.
See, I don't get that from guns.
I got that from bow and arrow, but not guns, no matter what gun, I'm like, I'm good.
I was with some soldiers yesterday.
Yeah.
I was with soldiers yesterday who were like elite guys and they said,
Dude, my buddy goes, dude, you know, pistols, I suck now.
I mean, if you're not practicing all the time, and I was like, well, I will always suck at pistol fighting.
Oh, yeah.
Do you remember the time?
What city we were in where we shot with some like Seattle, that Delta guy?
Was, no, but do you remember the time that, because I've never seen someone shoot a sniper rifle for?
Brian shot, oh, no, we shot AKs on the road.
And Brian did not realize the kick that I was going to have.
Oh, yes.
Slice the top of this fucking nose.
Oh, no, that, Bub, that was, that was not.
Real cup.
That was a silence day K.
No, that was a sniper rifle that shot back and hit me.
Remember it slid the whole time?
You went on stage still bleeding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I shot this sniper rifle and the kick went, boom.
Was that the 50-Cal sniper?
No, it was just a regular sniper.
Too light.
Too light.
When you shoot with the scope, you've got to lean forward and you have to have your eye back.
Hey, I had a black guy from it.
Don't know his tips.
You had a black eye from me.
I got a cut.
I got a cut-ey.
Bless Tim.
My dad did that.
We went to, my dad's like, I was a sniper in the Marines.
I was like, mm-hmm, okay.
We go to, he had a 370, which is what you used to shoot, like, like, big game.
And it's so fucking loud, and we didn't know.
Because when you shoot like an M-1 or an M-16, it's just not as loud.
It's just loud.
But those, those three, I think it was a 3-70, some big rifle.
You say any number right now.
Right, right.
I'm such a New York police.
But the book was this big.
When they say the number.
I'm like, oh, I don't know.
He lies down to shoot it and he didn't know
the kick it was going to have because he'd never shot it.
We also didn't know how loud it was.
He shoots that gun, dude.
And it was outside.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
And his fucking, he comes up with a, with a round.
He walked around Alaska with this.
Yeah, hilarious.
Dude, that's why the first time you took me shooting,
I remember hearing the guns and I'm like,
movies don't make sense at all.
When they fucking shoot people inside of a house and everyone just
hanging around.
You been silences.
suppressor joke yeah we were using headphones and even then i was like but did you but did you grow up did
did your dad have guns and shit my dad did my dad was law enforcement so he had guns but there's nowhere to go
shoot in new york city yeah but i told you most no he taught me how to like he told me all like how to
take a part of gun safety stuff like that right well they kind of know you know more than we did
no i i literally shot um i i shot my i bought an ar from taran tactical yeah i still got mine i got my ar
six grand or something I spent on it.
I had ear plugs in,
just ear plugs and I shot it outside.
And it was so loud that I had to,
I was like, I can't shoot this.
He goes, no, you need earphones.
And I go, well, I want this for my home.
I can't shoot this in my home because I'll go deaf.
He goes, yeah, yeah, you have to have.
I go, I don't want it.
And I gave it to my friend Tark.
Yeah, that's why the most unrealistic thing about like a John Wick movie
is every time he shoots someone,
and it doesn't go fucking ow.
You know?
You guys are also bitches because I have the same gun
and I have, it's a,
you got that collie power.
Hey, it's also, hey, it's also a gun.
You can't shoot it out there's loud.
They're loud.
You can't shoot it indoors.
You need a suppressor.
Even that.
That's not even that.
I thought,
also use it,
get a shotgun with slugs.
That's what you do for a gun.
I knew so little about guns that I thought a silencer
would actually silence it.
Then we shot the silence.
I'm like,
it's just a different noise.
Now, if you shoot a 22 silencer,
pistol, that's very quiet.
Is there any actual silencers or is that just like a made-up?
I think there are.
Like,
so.
You have, so with a, so you can suppress an AR.
So, so, but you need what's called 360 blackout.
And 360 blackout is a subsonic round.
It doesn't break the sound barrier.
That's what makes noise.
And you have a suppressor.
And then those are so quiet, you just hear the slide.
That's what those elite guys.
Really?
Yeah.
Because they'll, they'll use it.
Expensive though.
That's what that, I think those delta guys when they want to be really quiet.
It's expensive though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's like those are, that you have a suppressor in the round is subsonic.
So it goes.
But it goes slower than 3 at 750 miles.
So if you need a suppressor, bro, now you know.
Now I know.
Now I know.
You guys should figure it up.
I'm still a pussy.
I'll still be like,
oh, my fucking ears.
Such a pussy.
I want to get good with guns.
But it's just like.
Do you, though?
It just seems like...
You just want enough where you can defend yourself.
So let me...
I think as a dude,
you should be able to shoot a gun and change a tire.
So one of the biggest problems, by the way,
when you, when you,
those guys train so much...
You know how to change a tire.
I do.
I learned on YouTube University.
Those guys trained so much
that they get lead poisoning.
They trained so much that lead poison is a major problem.
And they would put their shells in their hat.
They'd collect their shells.
And then they dumped shells and they put their hat back on their head.
And a lot of those guys were getting brain cancer and stuff.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
So if you want to be good, if you want to be like a Delta guy and you're shooting.
And they also practice shooting live rounds inside.
That's super good for your lungs.
Yeah.
So many things we never think about.
So many things.
The Delta people we have met, the stories that they've told us, I'm not.
If you, if the three of us had.
to go into a house and do CQB,
close quarter of combat, and clear a house.
You know what would happen?
We'd end up shooting each other.
That's what happens.
You're like,
oh, what the fuck?
And you sweep a guy's head,
come on, oh, you hit him.
Oh, without the training?
Yeah, you need training.
And a lot of it.
Jim would be all right.
I use throwing stars.
Yeah.
You're a Nunchucks guy, right?
I'm a numchucks throwing star guy.
So, and I use a bow staff.
Oh, you, what was, remember,
Remember when Dana did that thing with Gary Brekka and it showed his actual physical age?
Remember that?
Because it was, do we believe that stuff?
Because the reason I bring it up, because Ways to Well has this app, right?
And so I was there doing all my shit, right hand with Brigham.
And then it goes, it shows your age, 42.
And his actual age is like 34.
I'm like, I don't know.
Everybody says that.
None of that makes any sense to me.
I guess it's going through, it's going based on your blood panel, right?
And like you're, I don't know.
I don't know.
No, even that guy, Brian Johnson, you know, the guy who, like, dedicated his life to it, has, like, that guy's dedicated his life to science and being just like a guinea pig for science.
And even he has deaged himself only, like, a handful of years.
And that guy dedicated.
So when, like, my.
Father time, bro.
Yeah, he still get hit by a boss.
Until we come up with it, they have, Brigham from Wastewell sent me a really interesting thing where they have taken human skin cells and reversed, somehow figured out a way to re-engineer their aging.
but like so what gary breck was probably looking at was dana's you know cardiovascular health
his high blood pressure and you can you can compare that to metadata and say look people with
your blood pressure your profile a lot of times don't live past 63 or have heart attacks
but there has to be something to it because people like yeah like 40 or shit i'm 40
when you look at pictures of people in the 90s in their 40s oh yeah
Like there's something.
There's something to it.
There's something to it.
Well, you know what it is?
There's something to it.
This is going to sound fucking crazy.
Do you know what the biggest difference between now and then is?
The consumption of water.
People were not hydrating their bodies back then.
Like it wasn't, that sounds insane.
Sleep too.
But people weren't sleeping right.
They were smoking cigarettes regularly.
And they weren't drinking water.
Drinking water is people underestimate how much drinking water.
So Dana had sleep apnea.
That's a huge problem.
He's also overweight.
He's also overrated.
He's also overrated.
Yeah.
If you have sleep apnea,
That's really bad.
You're not getting sleep.
But remember,
Brett,
we just saw Dana recently.
He was great,
he was in great shape
a few years ago,
but now he looks like,
it's all back.
Maybe all the stress.
You go back to your habits.
Yeah.
You wouldn't,
you would think you.
Do you like this,
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stash my it's just some of the things he says are just like what do you what are you talking about
like saying you're going to raise your test by getting in a cold plunge yeah no no cold water's
not out of your body like a like a cold plunge and then you go and he's selling cold plunges yeah exactly
no i don't buy any of that hydrogen wands hydrogenating water yeah that would mean
all the people who live in the projects who their heats turned off are just full of high tests.
There's a lot of when you're when you're selling stuff.
I'll say what, Dana looks fucking great though.
Right there.
He did, Brian.
He didn't look like that right now, which I don't.
He just lives a life that you can't, like, you can't, it's hard to keep up with that.
See, I disagree.
You think so?
How so?
I think it's easier to keep up with that.
It'd be easier.
He has the resources to everything.
You have a chef to make your food.
You have every resource possible.
I just feel like with flying around constantly and all that stuff,
it's probably hard to keep up with sleep.
Like, sleep, people don't realize how important.
Like, if you're not getting sleep, you're not going to fucking, you're not going to look good.
There's a lot.
It's tough.
Your cortisol raises, your ghrelin raises, all that shit.
But he probably, what, he probably stress eats.
Like, a lot of people do that.
And if he's ever going to put this fucking UFC card together, he's not going to fucking sleep.
You see, it looks like there, like he's put some of the weight on.
Now, it could just be a flabby neck, though, because you're older, your neck goes.
Yeah, but he looks like he's, he don't know about baby.
Hey, shut up.
He looks like he's put on some weight.
They say he looks like Kingpin from the puppy.
He really does.
He is real life Kingpin.
He, uh,
Yasser might just be like, fuck it.
Whatever.
Well, I think, I think I always say this.
Like, people say, well, I got to start working out.
I got to start eating properly.
Okay, but don't make it a job.
Just try to, try to be inspired about it.
It's also really easy to get in shape once and then lose it.
The amount of, how many people have you ever seen that?
They're like, I'm going to get in shape.
They get in shape.
they just go to shit.
It happens all the fucking time.
To keep up,
getting in shape is easy,
but keeping in shape,
way harder.
I don't know,
man,
I just try to get it in every day,
even if it's 20 minutes.
Yeah.
Why are you laughing?
The thing about you,
you can do nothing.
And you know what I'm saying?
Yeah,
but I always try to,
I still work out.
Like,
I try to stay in shape.
I know,
but even if you didn't,
you wouldn't be fat.
No.
You wouldn't be flabby.
I don't eat much.
I don't eat.
Yeah,
yeah,
so I'm like,
with your body type,
like you,
you have the metabolism and eating habits of a pyrene falcon oh dude if i if i stop working out i get
skinnier like i my joke is i have a christ-like physique so christian chicks like me when i'm not
in you you and fucking billy bob thornton have the same ass you know what i'm saying it's like
no no no see that's you're seeing his ass on landman yeah don't say not not hey hey hey hey take it back
right now you do have kind of a peach i'm just saying you're yeah yeah don't say that don't ever
Bring up Billy Bob Thorne's ass on Landman.
Yep.
I think about that all the time.
I think about his ass.
I look at him.
I go, dude, you...
It's distracting.
It's distracting.
You have...
When he's in jeans and he's...
Like, him and his wife are staring at the sunset, like, the season finale, I'm like, his ass.
He just doesn't...
Really?
Oh, it's unbelievable.
He's so skinny.
It's a Mr. Burns' ass.
Really?
Just nothing there.
Yeah.
He's so thin.
And so is that other guy.
He's looking...
He's a smoker, you know?
Is that what it is?
He's a big smoker, yeah.
Guys like Sean Penn and, like, Billy Bob.
They smoke so much.
I can't see a specific pick.
Really Bob's amazing, though.
Does this show that good that I have to watch it?
Yes, this season.
Some people can blame without a season.
The season finale of season two is one of the best episodes of TV you will ever see.
Season one of the land mooning.
He's great.
He's so skinny.
In a way, he's skinned, land mooning.
Season four, land mooning.
As moon.
Yes, that show is great.
I don't know.
I finally got my girl.
I finally got my girl to watch Sopranos because I wanted to
know my culture.
Such a good show.
Is she into it?
That's the show.
You can not like it.
That's the show that started at all.
Yeah.
I think that should, there would be no, like, there would be no, uh, Game of Thrones.
There would be no all these other shows.
No, HBO is who, who started the fucking trend of putting like a long form high.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, true.
I'm not saying Tony Sprano was the, the idea behind John Snow.
I don't know, man.
Like dragging and shit?
It's a stretch.
Yeah.
The head of HBO at the time.
Dude, that new Game of Thrones, where the fuck it is.
Is it good?
I was so bored.
What do you talk about?
There's a new, there's a spinoff of Game of Thrones.
No, so there's House of Dragons.
No, so there's House of Dragons.
And there's Game of Thrones.
This is in between, neither of Seven Kings.
That's also a lame title.
It was so boring, dude.
Really?
Hey, I saw the rip, our boy Joe Carnahan.
Do you like it?
I loved it.
It's entertaining.
Wow.
It's not going to winning Academy Award.
It's fucking good.
Well, it's great because you kind of, I didn't see it coming that way.
Matt Damon.
So well done.
Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are so good.
Mad Taman.
You know what would actually,
because I feel like sometimes
the execs don't listen to the people
like when it comes to what would be good.
Everybody wants a John Snow
spin-off show.
And everyone would fucking kill to see that.
And they're like,
nah,
let's not do that.
They do that with Marvel all the time.
Like,
let's make Dr. Doom and they're like,
how about She-Hulk?
How does that work for you guys?
And we're like, no one wants that.
Netflix is doing it with Stranger Things, though.
There's supposed to be some spinoff.
I am done being schizophrenic about stranger things.
I mean, they said it.
I mean, I'm kind of good.
Yeah,
I don't give a fuck if they do it.
I've gone to the point where I've fallen so far deep into that fucking rabbit hole
that I looked like Joyce in season one where there's the lights.
Yeah,
yeah,
I'm going to be the season.
What the fuck are you doing?
Because you were the one,
yeah,
you were like,
I think there's going to be an episode.
I was 100% sure.
And I'm,
I'm like looking in the backgrounds of their pictures,
like the cast.
I'm like,
there's an 11 on the clock.
It's going to happen on the 11.
He convinced you were into it,
man.
And then because you sent me the fucking video.
If it was on TikTok.
I'm skittzo and I'm listening to these other fucking schizophrenics.
My whole algorithm was just all this fucking conspiracy.
You know, my daughter has been reading since she was three
and she read like all the Harry Potter,
all the, like, uh, what it's Lord of the Rings.
This girl would write, read it 13 years old.
She was reading 1,500 page books or some shit.
And, um, she got to the point where she knows stories so well
that we'd be watching something like stranger things or a movie.
And she would go, oh, she's going to die.
I'd be like, what?
She goes, it's foreshattering.
She was, and she was right every single time.
She'd be like, and she go, she did it or he did it.
And I'm like, no, he didn't.
What are you talking about?
She goes, of course he did.
Why do you think?
And I'm like, but she knew the patterns.
Yeah.
Yes, she knew the patterns.
She's running.
She'd ruin the story for me.
Which is crazy because you've been in Hollywood for 75 years.
My ex and her.
I know.
I know.
I mean, that's why.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I'm sorry.
A lot of my brain is still playing with crayons.
And it's embarrassing that my ex and my daughter.
You went to acting school were a successful actor.
And they know way better story way better than I do.
But if she's read it, there's tendencies, I'm sure.
You know, you know those people I can read, like my father-in-law,
my ex-father-in-law's that way.
He would just, he's like, I've read everything by Mark Twain.
I'm like, it takes a long time.
It's a lot of work.
You probably understand, you probably know this.
Like, from what I heard, there's only X amount of storylines.
There's like every movie, there's only certain, they all fit into such.
stranger comes to town, you know, boy to king, you know, all that stuff.
Yeah, which fits ever, what was there, 13 different, like, styles where it's, it all
fits into this.
About the same shit.
Yeah.
Just different spin on the same story.
Yeah.
There's drama, which is like, you know, the character wants something.
And usually they're really selfish about it and their singularity, like, I'm going to get this
thing.
Or they've been wrong.
And then they realize, oh, I got to give up what I want, but I get something else.
I get what I need.
and I become a different person.
So yeah, I'm still poor because I gave the money to the girl.
I've been chasing the money the whole movie.
And I'm like, you know what?
This person, for the first time of my life, I realized somebody else matters more than me.
And I give the money to somebody else.
And then it's like, man, he's a good guy after all, that kind of stuff.
The tragedy, you know what the tragedy is?
You know, the tragedy would be, what's a good example of that?
Anytime there's like a crime movie or something, the guy won't give up.
He won't give up what he wants.
He holds onto it in the end.
That's what Moby Dick is.
he still wants to kill that white whale and get sucked under because of it's why game of thrones is so good
because like they not i'm not saying they broke a mold but like that's first i've ever seen where
every time you think there's a main character he's two episodes later dead oh you never know who the
character yeah you're like all right that's everybody i knew what the fuck yeah the first of a lot
times in that in that game of thones remember breaking bad a lot of it's good guys the good guys
lose they die you know and and you get attached to them and then it's like wow this is a rough
part of the world. This is a rough war. Which is why the ending of it is so sour. I mean,
spoiler. But the mother of dragons, the mother of dragons is ultimately she was the Avenger.
Yeah, she was crazy. She does, doesn't she? Yeah, she becomes the mad queen. Yeah.
This is mad how bad. Power corrupts. Mm-hmm. And John is, I don't have an issue with it.
Do you like the ending? I don't mind it. I thought season, season eight was lit.
Me too. I thought it was cool. Except, I liked everything except for John Snow just getting sent back to
the wall. It's like you had this whole character arc for nothing.
to just be sent back and you're just a fucking.
Oh, I like it.
You ain't shit.
Get back to the wall.
Really?
Hey, thanks for the work.
Have we seen those actors in much since?
Yeah, John Snow's done some stuff.
Sort of.
I mean, I think they're so rich.
They don't give up.
Peter Dinklage will always work.
Peter Dinklage is bomb.
Oh, Circes is crushing it.
I don't know how rich they are.
Oh, Baba.
Look at the contract for the last five seasons.
Yeah.
Rich, rich.
What do you mean rich rich, rich?
Highest paid show of all time.
How much were they making an episode?
Bring it up.
A mill?
More than that.
And you figure what, eight episodes per season?
10?
10, maybe?
I don't think anyone scrounge for change from Game of Thrones.
I've seen that movie before.
Let me see.
Hold on.
Peter Dinklage 1.2, 1.2.
Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry.
So let's go through it.
You want to go through it?
It's a lot of money.
but after your agents and after taxes
you're seeing
so how many episodes they shoot a
season
but you also got a figure
it's it's it's
you'd be you'd be
fucking amazed but they're probably getting money for life
yes yeah
no not the way those contracts are run
it's different even on HBO
it's not like a streaming service
yeah it's like so someone's buying the rights to it
and I mean they probably
The main character is probably made close to 30, 40 million?
Yeah, if you're broke after that, you're just the fuck out.
Yeah, but I'm just saying.
So is it eight, how many episodes per season?
It's probably eight to ten per season.
Let's just say it's 10.
So they do get royalties and.
Worldties, yeah.
Yeah, residuals.
You said how many, what episodes?
Episodes per season.
Ten episodes.
And then season seven.
So say it's say one point two million episodes.
So it's $12 million after taxes and after.
You're going to see five mil probably.
Realistically.
Still a lot of fucking money.
It's a lot of money.
Five million dollars.
For eight years though?
Yeah, but they're not doing it for eight years.
It was actually the last, what, four years or something?
Five, 20 mil.
And do you get royalties?
Yeah, the royalties are shit.
But 20 mil in the bank, if you're, let's just say that's, that's what you.
Do you, but, but you still get 20 mil.
You know what he sounds like?
He sounds like the guard in Charles Schen's.
Shink Redemption. When Andy Dufrains, like, I could save you that money. He's like, and then what?
I'm not by a car and the kids, the ball and he'll talk you. No, but you know how it is.
$20 million is a lot of money. That's because we're bad with money. They might be really good with it.
Well, history, history would suggest otherwise, but I'm just saying that actors, like you make 20
mill, yes, it's a lot of money. It's just amazing how fast it goes. I'll say for that for most
it. Pants how you live. Yeah, right? You buy a five million dollars. You know.
And they're also, a lot of them are older, too. I bet they're, I bet some of them are just
With most shows, like people who are that ingrained into a character, it's so rare you ever see them do something.
So this show, out of all the shows, I think is doing the best.
I think that people who are going to do the worst is actually stranger things.
Because did you see them on S&L?
Oh, terrible.
It was just like, it was just, you're like, oh, I can't, you'll never see them as like, you're never going to see Dustin as not Dustin.
Yeah, it's going to be.
Like what other toothless character can you play?
Yeah, it's going to be tough.
Corsi's has been on a ton of shit, though.
Circees was just on a Netflix show.
She's on a bunch of.
bunch of shit. You keep working. And this might be a, this just a reality of it. Because me and my
girl, we watched the newest season of strangers things. And like, there's something about, I don't know
if they got worse at acting or if you just give kids grace for at acting when they're younger,
but when they're adults playing kids, you're like, this kid kind of fucking sucks. Yeah.
I think you might just give a grace to a kid because it's easier when they're actual an actual child.
I've worked a lot of kids in my career, like just on Seventh Heaven or on Goldberg schooled.
Um, and a lot of those kids come up just like with boxing.
They've been acting since they were, you know, in Hollywood since they were five, six and their parents are there.
And they hit puberty.
Yeah.
And then, uh, and, and it's interesting because some of them, like Matthew Perry was a, I think a Disney kid.
Uh, so was Justin Timberlake.
So was.
A lot of people have started and they just hit it.
But yeah, it's, it's not as though when you're always on the set, you become a great actor.
you you you become reliable good at that character you just become reliable expanding your
skill set yeah like so then up but then also those kids too like how long was between season four and five
four years they probably chill how many of them are going to class and have you know and once he gets
pop and like oh shit's like dusting off the old cleats like probably those first two seasons the first two
episodes that's what told my wife i'm like man this acting is bad except for the girl sadie sing
the girl who uh the redhead girl oh she's great she's gotten massively better yeah she's good
everyone else you're like this is court she'll probably have a career 11th special though huh
the girl plays 11th yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah she's special she was a little wonky this season but
i think it's also because she's a mom she's dealing a married a married mother who's playing uh
a girl who doesn't talk in high school you know it just like it it it doesn't fit who she is anymore
you know she starts she was like this now she's like a full-figured
woman yeah she has titties and you're like what is she had lip injections like what happened in the
upside down yeah what's going on the upside down yeah what are we who's the botox guy
down in the what kind of what's in the water and the upside down right it's weird it's weird when
you see her outside of the stranger things like set yeah oh yeah she showed up on my feed for like
she has her own like
kind of like sexy clothing line
or something like that and you're just like I feel like I shouldn't be
saying this is crazy
she's 23 yeah
but like I still see her as a fucking teenager
she started we saw her when she was like
six it's her name Bobby Millie Brown
yeah Millie Bobby Brown
and she showed up in my feet too randomly
I don't know her I don't even watch she's a pretty girl
she's English yeah yeah English
British actress
who married her
it's Bon Jovi's kid
Oh, that makes sense.
What?
Bon Jovi's son.
Oh, wow.
Jake Bon Jovi.
Really?
Let me see him.
Isn't that good-looking?
You said good-looking?
Yeah.
handsome bastard.
Bon Jovi and that whole group are good people.
Yeah.
He's a traditional, he's fucking, he's a New Jersey Italian guy, conservative New Jersey.
I think he's still married to the same woman.
By Bon Jovi's not British?
No.
Bon Jovi.
Who am I thinking of?
Bon Jovi?
Hey, man.
bro bon jovi is shot to the ha that's not a british man oh man he's as he's as italian he's
he's as new jersey italian he god really jovi buddy yeah and a conservative dude am i confusing him
for you too yeah probably yeah okay yeah bono and they're not british either you think of bono
they're i'm confusing bono and bon jovi yeah fuck no he's he's he's i thought he's british this whole time
no john bon jovi and his brother i think is the drummer also in there it's two it's two
It's the Bon Jovi brothers.
And I remember the...
This is why I stayed on the last episode.
I know I'm a fucking idiot.
You have to just accept this.
Oh, we all are.
This whole time I thought he was a British man.
You didn't grow up listening to him because it's like not actually even your generation.
It's mine.
As American, they should know.
Yeah.
I remember that they came, the whole band came to my show in Nashville.
But John didn't, but everybody else did.
And they couldn't be more normal Jersey guys.
They're just a bunch of Italian, maybe, maybe, I don't.
I don't know. They're mostly, I looked like there are mostly a time, but just regular
I was with it was with him at Tucker Carlson's. Oh, you were? Yeah. With John?
Yeah. Well, cool guy, right?
They're cool. Yeah. Hello, Brandon.
Yes, well see, hello. My name is John Bon Jovi.
Hello. They don't look British to you? Uh, I mean, they, they, remember, they're, they're copying
the Brits. You know what I'm saying? So the American bands, no, but the American bands back then,
this is British, you know who there, the Beatles? No, but, but, you know, the Beatles?
They've done a really interesting thing about this.
So the 80s bands in America, poison, motley crew, John Bon Jovi.
Rolling Stones?
No, but the 80s bands.
What were they doing?
They were copying Led Zeppelin and Robert Platt.
Yeah.
Because that's why their voices were so hot.
That's Robert Plant.
So they were like literally the definitive heavy metal band of all time was Zeppelin.
It's dicey though because they're slowly turning to chick.
He's wearing a woman's power.
soon. Well, again, the glam rock was started by Robert Plant. You know, you ever,
bring up Robert Plant from the 70s. Now take a look at what. You see the guy with the curly
hair there? He was at the party. And I, I legit thought it was, he was dressed like Dracula.
Oh, oh, yeah. I was like, oh, it's a vampire. You know what? You're right. Get less obvious.
Also, you're 60. You're 65. It was a vampire. Yeah, and you're 65. We got, no, he had a,
blood, it was like a maroon, like nice, like John Bervado's coat on. You're 60. You're 65. We got, no, he had a, he had a
blood it was like a maroon like nice like john verbado's coat on with a collar high i'm like
well you're right there okay so so what do you notice about him right now john like do you see a shirt
do you know what he used to do he would always wear he'd wear the girl's shirt from the night before
he'd take her shirt and he'd be like i'm wearing the shirt he'd wear it that's kind of badass it's badass
so he was always wearing a girl shirt on a bad ass just because you can't fit in those shirts
no no no hey on it's badass if it's a true story it is true story i'll tell you what's not bad
Dude, that guy's bang.
If you're just buying female clothes.
No, no, no.
And then saying you hooked up with chik.
Robert Plant started the whole thing.
It would be so funny if he banged a fat chick the night before he's wearing just a loose fucking dress.
Just a giant jacket on.
Guys, take it easy.
She's diabetic.
Well, speaking of high voices, I got on this rabbit holder the night of seeing what, uh, what's the name Axel from Guns and Roses like.
Same thing.
He sounds like Mickey.
Have you heard him recently?
Now.
Well, yeah, come on.
Be cool.
So now, no.
I mean, he's a legend.
But Slash is playing with cover bands now so he can actually play with someone who actually sound like Axel.
Slash can still do the goddamn thing.
But if you heard Axel, because he's destroyed his voice over time.
Because doing that with your voice, you can't do that forever.
And he was trying to be Robert Plant.
Yeah.
That's another guy.
Long blonde hair.
Same thing.
Kind of like androgynous.
It was all Robert.
Did you ever watch the series they had on Netflix on that band?
On Guns of Rose?
Kelly's in it?
Yeah.
No.
I like Machine Gun Kelly.
Do you?
People, yeah, I like him.
he i've heard him talk and like
he's he's
he's a guy who's very aware
how you feel about him
he's aware about how he feels about himself
it's like you know he's yeah that was a special guy
you don't watch any of it or uh just the short
it's so hard to listen to
father this is me singing
yeah that's mickey mouse changed
it's a bummer
i saw him in concert it'd be like watching
larry bird fucking dribble right you're like
Fuck,
dude.
Firebird still got it.
Maybe.
But let's say
you had a bad
back in these.
Oh,
why are we doing this?
That's actually a great analogy.
Yeah, it sucks,
dude.
That's a great analogy.
Wow.
What do you got,
Jen?
That brought the party down.
Yeah,
Axel Rose's voice.
That's the mood music.
That's the mood music
to what,
how we're feeling right now.
Suddenly he just brings everything down.
Oh, man.
It sounds like Axel Rose's voice in here.
As in I can't hear him.
Fuck.
chin i like the
you guys watch the
you guys are on the road this weekend
yeah we're in san Jose
so you miss the ufc
we'll miss the ufc
we'll miss the ufc
we'll know because this time we're not
gonna have to
I'm so happy the Paramount is fucking doing this
I'm so fucking pumped because now we don't
have to fucking illegally stream it
exactly yeah exactly
and try and figure out how to use airplay
on a television like I was never able to
illegally stream it I always have to buy it
on that dumb
I did.
Hey.
I did.
I don't know how.
No, there was, no, no, there was a time where somebody said,
MMA share, and I've watched it on that back in the day, but after it was done.
But now I don't know how to, I don't know how to.
Do you remember the time?
I forgot where we were, I think it was somewhere in North Carolina.
Some guys like, dude, we're going to be playing out at our bar.
And we thought that he bought the actual thing, but he didn't.
He used the Russian live stream.
And the whole time, remember it was skipping.
Like, it would go 10 seconds at a time.
We missed the whole.
Because you have to pay 10 grand.
I mean, I just think it's easier just to pay the $7.
It's not at a bar.
It's expensive.
It was at a nightclub and they gave us a VIP and they fucking, they tried to illegally stream it.
I don't remember that.
You were bugging the fuck out.
That would suck.
I don't remember.
You're like, we need to get the fuck out of here.
Okay.
Well, it would be nice if they were drilling.
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What do you think about this, though?
Don't think that
that's going to make UFC
blow up even bigger?
No.
What?
Paramount.
I don't know.
No.
You don't think so?
Mm-mm.
Why not?
Easily accessible, you mean?
No.
Yeah.
I think it is what it is.
Because opens a lot more people.
I think it is what it is.
I think the U.S.
is in cruise control.
I don't think there's any growth in the United States.
I think they've maximized their growth in them.
You think that's it?
Is that the problem?
We don't have any American champions, really?
I just, I just think it's what it is.
We've reached as high as we can go.
This is what it is.
It's all good.
if an American champion comes along
give us a little boost
but it is what it is
like boxing's completely dead
and no one even notices
they don't
it's Jake Paul keeping it alive
yes and no like you fight once a year
but it's like boxing
nobody's taking note
it's dead they have no TV right deals
there's no TV right deals
there's boxing no they don't like
the top rank the zone they don't
they don't have any TV right deals
in the United States right now
There's no big fights coming up.
Canelo's next fights in Rehad, or Rejad, whatever the fuck it is.
So for that big, you know he's fights on single de Mayo?
That was always in Vegas.
That's a big deal.
Influencer boxing is all that's really going on.
Like, did you see?
Because boxing's dead.
But like, no one's realizing this.
But the sport of boxing's kind of dead.
You saw whose boxing influencer was?
No.
I sent it to you, Chin.
Which one is it?
I think he's your boy.
actually. Adam 22.
Oh, yeah. He's fighting. He's fighting.
He's fighting. Jason Love. Yeah. That's brutal.
Adam's a big boy. Have you ever met Adam? No.
He's tall.
He's a large,
boned guy.
Jason Love is a bigger guy.
I've seen dudes built like Adam give as good as they get,
though. He's a big kid.
I don't think any can, either one of them can fight.
Yeah. But I guess
it's a cool narrative. I'm sure they're both making a bag for it.
makes sense.
Did you imagine some guy
he cracks his wife and then
also cracks him?
That's fucking real.
I think I'd go back home as
as Adam's making money.
But I would back to the U.C.,
I don't, with the,
with the lay of the land, it's just
it's kind of heartbreaking.
Like everything across the board is down.
How excited are you about these fights?
Minimely, minimally.
Yeah, pretty.
Which fights?
The fights this weekend.
Like I love the UFC.
I don't miss anything.
Is this weekend, Patty?
Yeah, Justin.
You're not excited about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm excited about the main event, but the card's not like, you know, like they don't stack cards anymore.
Like, this is an okay card.
It is a weird card to start the year off with.
Because they don't have to anymore.
Because the UFC got a $7 billion deal.
They have to put on whatever 45 fights a year.
So everything's kind of watered down.
Look at this.
I mean.
If you're the UFC, they're going, we made $7 billion.
Like, no, I know, but the sport of MMA is actually dying in America.
There's no other leagues.
They destroyed all the other leagues.
There's only one show in town.
When you say they destroyed the other leagues, what do you mean?
The meaning they took all the talent.
Like the UFC is the NFL of MMA so nobody else can survive, which I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
They're the best at it.
But there's...
I'm not that excited.
You're right.
There's not a lot I'm excited about.
Like, name something you're excited about.
I guess the White House card is kind of the narrative.
Hopefully that goes well.
The more I look at this card, the better this card actually looks to me.
Because Patty, Justin, obviously going to be a firewarks.
That's a great fight.
Then you got Sean O'Malley versus Song.
That's going to be a good fight.
Derek Lewis is fireworks every single.
There's never a time where Derek Lewis puts on a shit, except for, I mean, Francis.
Suck cock.
No, but Acosta won't let that go to this.
I love watching Rose fight.
Like, Rose.
Did you?
I did two five years ago.
Oh, I still love the way she fights.
You know what, though?
She has gotten neutralized by wrestling before, but like, I don't know.
She's never not.
Who's the one that she fought where they just served?
circled around the ring for all five rounds.
What was that?
Wangli.
No.
No, that was actually...
Ressler Latin girl.
Oh, Carla Sparza?
No, Sparza.
Besides that fight, every other fight she's had is...
Yeah, Rose is throwing.
Rose is great.
She's fun.
She's just on the very last two holes of her career.
You think so?
I know so.
Do you think there's any chance for getting the belt back?
Not a chance.
Really?
No, it's the show's over.
And then...
For Gaitchi, too.
Like, Gachie loses, shows over.
Sugar Sean loses, shows over, dude.
Well, that's actually, I mean,
Derek Lewis loses shows over.
If Gathe does lose.
Like it's a lot of older.
Well, Sean's still young.
Do you think if Gathe was,
is he retires?
Yes.
How old is so?
O'Malley.
I think O'Malley's not,
no, O'Malley's not going to retire.
I'm just saying as far as him being the face of America,
which he was for a long time, that's over.
And then lose three out of your last three fights.
Like, we can't do much with it.
Silva beast,
the way he,
the way he fucking manheled of Bryce Hall.
Yeah.
I'm Bryce Mitchell.
Yeah.
fucking beast.
Like that's gonna be a good fight.
He doesn't go,
like he goes in there like a fucking animal.
Yeah.
Arnold Allen's beast.
Yeah.
So it's gonna be a good.
That's gonna be a good fight.
You know Arnold Allen's dad was a strong man.
Was he?
And would tell,
he would do steroids and tell him not to do him.
Really?
Yeah.
He's like absolutely dude not.
It's funny.
That's a good influence.
And Arnold is a featherweight.
That's interesting.
He's a monster though.
He's so strong.
What's Arnold Allen's record?
No,
he's a fucking savage.
If he didn't lose to,
I think he lost to Max Holloway,
but he's a,
yeah,
That's the Max and that's the evil of.
He's a fucking beast though, man.
That could be, I mean, even though they're not all the biggest names, I think that could be a,
because sometimes you get to these big cards where it's these big names and it's not as interesting.
No, that's my sleeper fight on the card.
Yeah, that's a good fight.
Again, the card's not bad by any means.
And then you got an undefeated fighter in the prelims, right?
Yeah, you got Homeboy, uh, who's a fucking monster.
Where's he at?
Primals?
Umar.
Umar?
No, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, uh, African.
Yeah.
I mean, the middle of the guy?
Oh, uh, uh, Tiba, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's scary.
Who is this?
But they should put him on the main card.
Tebow, he's like, he's blown up right now.
Silva and Rose.
He's like the next big thing.
He's a fucking, you ever seen this guy?
No, bum.
Get ready to get your cock and start stroking it.
Oh, that you're going to love this guy.
African chiseled.
Yeah.
And a person's undfeated, right?
Undefeated.
Fights like a fucking banchi.
am what's his thing just striking or fucking people up yeah that's history like just just
exploding into your face like a Morales type of fighter yes but not as technical but yes
where enough you guys but again it's it's uh he's a real problem um again card's fucking good but
you know what I'm saying like like the UFC on Fox card if you remember that or the ESPN like
I don't know I'm just hoping it's just it's just it's just it's just it's just it's
just to me it's like the u.c even dana white and i'm not saying i do anything different if i'm
him i'm a ruin it's like they're they're in cruise control they reach cruise and altitude
and they're like we're good let me ask then for the white house card if you could build the perfect
white house card we've talked about this last time did you that's going to be a bonus on patreon though
so we can do it again i would say uh what's your what's your three i'll tell you what they have to do
So I think it's a real- Are you going to say Jones-Pera?
It's going to be a royal disaster if you don't have Jones on there, Alex on there, and Connor.
If those three are on there or two out of three, it's a failure.
I don't go to fuck who they put on there.
There's been so much pressure from those three fighters themselves and then also from the public to make sure they're on the White House card.
And Dana knows this.
He's fucking the best to ever do it.
He knows we're expecting that.
If for whatever reason, that doesn't come to fruition.
it's a royal fuck up.
They're going to get so much pushback.
And again, the UFC's like, okay, don't watch it then.
That's their thing.
They go, okay, don't watch it.
I know, I'm still going to watch, but still.
The one thing that worries me is the same thing happens at UFC 300,
where for months in advance he was talking about,
we're going to have the best fights you've ever seen locked in.
And then a month before he was, even he admitted,
like, I don't even know who we have locked in.
It is tough.
Now, I was very critical of UFC 300.
That was an awesome card.
It did come out.
It wasn't in big names.
It wasn't what you expected.
The card was fucking great.
Sure.
To his defense,
that card was great.
But the White House is a little different.
It's never going to happen again.
This is our one shot.
Yeah.
This has to be Jones,
Boe Nickel,
Chandler, Conner.
You want Boe Nickel on it.
Fuck, yeah, I do.
Yeah.
Yeah, unless you're from North Korea,
you got to have him on there.
That's true.
You know?
Do you think he's ready?
He has to be a pre-oom fight then.
I mean, they're saying there's
me, you know.
Who would, who would
Joe Nickel fight?
I would love,
Colby Covington.
Kobe's too small.
But Kobe's asking for the smoke.
He's asking for the fight.
Yeah, he asked for a lot of smoke.
Yeah, he asked for a lot of smoke.
You saw him at RAF talking,
talking all that shit to,
I know, but he's one.
And this is my thing,
but he's a big boy.
This is my thing with Kobe and Luke.
And Luke knows I love him.
They're talking all that shit to Bo and M.A.,
wrestle.
you two wrestle Boe Nickel.
Bo Tech Falls,
Colby.
Round one.
Not even close.
Not even close.
I'm not saying.
Kobe has a much better chance in the MMA Octagon,
even though he's not.
Kobe knows that.
Well, that's why they're like, I'll fight in MMA.
And Bo's like, but we're at RFA, let's wrestle.
They're like, don't be ridiculous.
There's a reason for that.
I think you have to have.
They're going to have to pull out the big boys.
They have to for this card.
You have to have John Jones Pereira.
That has to happen.
Even if they're not finding each other,
they have to be on the card.
They should be fighting.
They have to fight each other.
They have to fight each other.
Because who else is John coming back for his legacy?
That's not going to,
because he didn't fight.
And I think he was right all along.
People talked so much shit to John Jones, like,
oh, you're a duck, oh, you're a duck.
And not saying that, you know,
Aspinall didn't get taken out in the worst way possible in that fight.
But that round was a lot closer than you would have expected.
Not saying, but the way John-
Gone looked like he was kind of getting the best.
That's what-and-the-way.
And the way that John handled Cyril,
that showed that John was kind of right about that.
Agree.
John was right.
Because if he could handle Cyril and what?
less than a minute.
Oh, I just.
And John, and, you know, he's, and then out, uh, what's an,
Aspinall's getting handled by him.
Yeah.
That's not the fuck.
Like, now that, the, the, the want for that fight, no one really gives a shit.
But then also, like, with the back to the White House card, I'm not the one who said that
there's going to be eight title fights.
I'm not the one who said it's going to be the greatest card you've ever seen.
That was what was fed to me from the horse's mouth.
You're just, you're just waiting.
So when you tell me that, I'm like, all right.
Well, all right.
Well, well, all right.
Well, well, this.
This is what I would do.
Would you put Comsod on that card?
He's got a fight, right?
No, he doesn't have a fight coming up.
And again, there's a lot of stuff they're doing where Comzat could be on that card.
Who do you put him against in that fight that?
Strickland, if he beats Fluffy.
I say, I say Bo Neckle.
I would love to see that.
I don't think Bo has, I love Bo Bo.
Bo's not going to be striking with him.
I'm saying, Comzot, if you look at Comsat.
Bo's not there yet.
It comes out's ability to blast double or that high double where he gets under his head in your armpit.
But you're talking about wrestling.
You're not going to see anything.
But this what I'm saying is that's going to knock them out.
Hamzat's strength is being able to get you on your back and hold you there.
It's not actually striking.
When he tried the exchange with Gilbert Burns, he got, you know, he got, he got as good as he gave.
There's a lot of stuff.
So it's not like we say comes out striking is what's going to take you out.
It's his wrestling.
That's the problem.
Against Bo, he was the.
strike he has such an advantage in striking bow striking so bad right now yeah hams that would knock him
out you see no wrestling right it also ruined bow's career to do it he's not even the top 15 you jump
him to the champ it is just not he gets molly walked he's not there yet he hasn't figured when he does
figure out it's gonna be a fucking problem i do think he's to be champion yeah but if you were do it now
you're gonna ruin his career you're literally ruining you keep him you keep him he's our he's our great
white he hasn't he's fought one he fought rd aren't you know you got starch yeah so it's like all right
And he looked good in his last fight.
So we got to slow it down.
Otherwise, you're going to ruin this prospect.
You want to throw him on the biggest card of all time.
Yeah, because then he's going to be trying to shoot.
Then he's fought.
He's going to be trying to shoot doubles and singles and.
But also remember, this is to celebrate America.
Yeah.
He ain't going to win that fight.
So you have this Chechny and mud stomped the All-American.
If he dog walks him in front of on the biggest card of America.
It wouldn't be so good.
Trump's going to look at Dana.
I'm like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
And Trump promised a lot for this one.
Yeah.
The promise he made, I'm like, this is.
crazier than saying we're taking greenland like this is
Trump and Dom's favorite fighters or John John
what do you say we're going to have eight Trump is going to fight Greenland
actually
Trump's going to
it's going to be the
it's going to be the it's going to be the
fucking premier of Denmark and Donald Trump
in the octagon how so it would it be that's one of the title fights also
Putin Zelensky
Putin wins take my money Putin beats stuff
Putin beats the shit out everybody Putin beats him like
Kams out beat bono yeah you don't want that age yeah oh yeah his
That guy has a problem.
He's Samba,
Tombo,
Tumputin,
Mops of four of them.
Also,
what you might get,
too, is,
and this would be big,
if Justin Gachie beats Patty,
which could very well happen,
you're going to get Justin versus Ilya.
The other reason I say that...
Or you get Patty Ilya on there,
even though they're not American.
I think Patty Ilya would be really interesting to me.
But on the White House card?
Sure.
I think Connor Gage.
I'm all about it.
Connor Gage or Connor Mazvedol.
Problem with Connor Gagee,
Connor's not making 55.
You don't think so?
Not a chance.
He's not.
be at 70.
So he could do Mosvedol.
Gichi's bigger.
But I bet you Gachie would bump up
for a fight like that.
He's got a bigger frame than Connor.
So I don't know why.
Gachie's big.
Yeah.
I think him,
Masvidal would be great too.
Gagchi's,
uh,
who?
Connor and Masvadol?
That'd be a good fight.
You could do Nate Connor.
That third trilogy fights.
Nate Conner for a trilogy would be sick.
At the White House?
Or wait,
they fought three, no?
Yeah, but what's Nate doing?
No, they fought twice.
Oh, you're right.
Yeah.
So that third one is always the carrot dangling.
That's the one they both want.
That could be a big fight for them to come back.
I mean, it's like watching old people fight at that point.
Take my money.
That would blow me.
If they just had out of the main event,
I don't go fuck what else is on there.
I'd be like, oh my God,
I can't believe they pulled it off.
And then John Alex on there,
you could have all chick fights and just those two.
And I'd be like, this is the greatest scar of all time.
If Connor shows.
Is there a female fight that people would be fraught at the mouse to
Kayla versus Amanda Nunes?
But she can't.
She's out with her neck injury.
Other than that.
There's nothing else she can do.
I mean, I don't...
MMA is in a downward spiral.
At this point, though, Connor?
Female M.M.M.A.
Misha Tate.
Ronda Rousey.
Hear me out.
The biggest worry, though, about Connor
is him showing up.
Be cool, man.
At this point, I feel like he's like my deadbeat dad.
He's going to fight at what?
I'm sitting on a porch, just smack in my glove.
Yeah, 70.
And every time my dad says he's about to show up,
I'm just sitting there in the front yard,
just smacking my glove,
waiting from the show.
He never shows out.
picked me up for practice.
With that time?
Hey, but that time he does, let's go.
Ice cream.
Connor's the father of the year.
You guys know this yet, but Connor and I'm,
this is going to change some things.
I don't know if you know this.
He's found Jesus.
Yeah.
Has he?
He's found Jesus.
Have you see it?
Yeah.
He say he's dedicated to social media serving Jesus Christ.
So you take, you take Connor McGregor and you put some Holy Ghost power in him.
You thought his left hand was good before?
Hey, Comzot.
You all know.
Hey, Kamsat.
Yon notice.
Because the Irish...
The Irish Catholic warrior...
Are you crazy?
Literally anybody else, man.
The worst possible situation.
What I was saying, but Conner has Jesus now.
Go back to the champs chin.
So if they said there's eight championship fights on the card, that's what Trump said.
Obviously, he doesn't know the UFC.
So there's no Americans on there then.
It's not an American to be found, dude.
There's not an American.
there's about as many as Americans as there are in Dagestan right now.
It's just like you can't put a card on of all champions.
Wait, how many Americans do we have as champions?
Joshua Van, even though he won in a weird way.
He's our only one.
Kayla Harrison's still a champion technically.
Yeah.
So you have Kayla Harrison and Joshua Van.
Wow.
Oh, we're washed.
Yeah.
America's washed.
And you know what?
You know, this is my theory about why we're washed.
The only way to keep up now is to have good wrestling.
And now that D1 wrestlers can get paid very well.
You can make, what, $300,000 as a D1 wrestler.
So what's the point in getting into MMA now?
There's none.
And it's a great thing.
It's good for wrestling because those guys had to be like, man,
hopefully I can take a punch and get MMA to make some money.
But, dude, to make money, like, you're not making $300,000 your first year into the UFC.
You're not making $300,000 until you're on your second contract and then fighting three times a year at least maybe then after tax?
Like, what's the incentive of the next Kyle Dake to come up and be like, now I'm going to fight?
in the UFC when he could just make a shit ton of money as a wrestler and then become the coach of
Oklahoma you know what I mean which is awesome now sucks with you it's bad for American
MMA really bad well you remember able might be the last one that because he's already way past
college that he might be the last great American wrestler that could I think the UFC challenge is
creating incentives for American fighters wrestlers athletes to be MMA fighters it's an incentive
structure thing and it's just hard because the incentive is just
The money's not there for them.
But A, the money's not there.
B, it's really tough to be, get hit in the face.
It's just, it sucks.
It's a, it's a hard way to make a living.
So like, I was that first wave.
It was like me, Mitreone, Brock Lesner, right?
Well, former football players came over.
I remember how much you hated it.
I remember.
Well, no, hold on.
So, so I didn't hate it.
So there's, there's three of us, right?
And then they're like, man, this is just the start.
Like these, these guys with their athletic ability coming over, man.
Think there's going to be athletes that start when they're kids.
and they're going to be inspired by the UFC.
And it never happened.
There was actually, because I saw it was viral on TikTok
because your season, there was a lot of football players
that came over, right?
Oh, yeah.
The dude, I don't remember the name.
Marcus Jones?
Was he the giant black guy?
There's a video that I just saw on TikTok to the day
of you fighting him.
Knocking him out.
And you're a big dude,
but when I saw how big this fucking guy was,
were you nervous for that fight?
That guy was a fucking monster.
And it was funny.
His name was Marcus Jones.
And it was funny because,
Jesus.
So his jiu-jitsu and his ground and pound
was so dangerous.
So before we go in,
Rashad's like,
just don't let him get on top of you.
I'm like,
no doubt.
Within 30 seconds,
he had full mount.
But you got off,
you got him off.
I remember you stood up.
Dude,
I put my,
I fucking C clamped his throat
and just stood up.
Yeah?
And yeah,
and then he threw a knee
and then I knocked him out.
Did he not have like that killer instinct in him?
Because he seemed like,
he was old,
he was like 30,
I want to say like 34 at the time,
36.
There's no killer instinct
when you get blasted in the face
by another 250 pound guy.
What was that feeling when you got on top of him after?
Happiest I've ever been.
Happiest I've ever been.
You'll see me.
I do, uh, boom.
Ooh, look at that.
Watch.
I do.
So my nose is shattered, but I do, uh, snowmen.
I made snow angels in the middle of octagon.
What was that?
Boom.
Boom.
For sure stop the fight.
For sure stop the fight.
For sure stop the fight.
Same hair as Brian.
For sure stop the fight.
Keep playing it, tune.
It's the best part.
Hold on.
I do the snow angels.
that's the happiest I've ever been
sports yeah that's the happiest
your nose was different back then
but look at that well this is the fight that changed my nose
he need me in the nose and shattered my nose
god and then crow cop didn't help it
that felt good
was that a bigger a better feeling than the crow cop one
yeah man stop that fight
hey ref stop the fight
refs like sorry he's still breathing
let's keep this going
and then I ran over to hug dana
he's like I go to grab him
and he goes no no your nose I'm like
He's like, your nose.
I'm like, what's wrong with?
He's like, feeling.
And it's like all the way over here.
Because he hit me with a knee and went like this.
And my nose is over here.
So as I'm watching this, I have a question.
When you're on top of someone hitting someone,
and like you probably in your head are like,
I hope this ref stops this fight soon.
No.
No?
No, I'm like, if he better stop it.
You have to win.
But so there's never anything like.
I don't want this motherfucker getting back up.
Yeah.
Like that's on the ref.
Like, I'm in kill mode.
So I'm going to keep going.
That's what I'm wondering.
Is there a thing in you that,
that.
just goes, I have to do this till the bet, like, to the ref.
Dimm the rules.
Yeah.
Like, that's on the ref.
And I swear, remember my entire livelihoods on that fight.
So I hit him and then I'm hitting him and he's going, and then he's popping back.
Like he's coming too.
Yeah.
I'm like, no, hell no.
Yeah.
Hell no.
Because I remember there was that famous Dan Hardy fight that, not Dan Hardy fight, he was
announcing.
And I think that's what got him fired from the UFC where he had to even step in as an announcer to be like,
ref, you have to stop this fight.
And it's just like, so I wonder what it's like, it's just all adrenaline when you're on top of them.
It's all adrenaline.
It's like you're literally just there to win.
I'm not worried about Marcus's kids.
I'm not worried about his family.
I'm literally, I'm there for me.
This is how I'm going to make a name for myself.
This is on fucking, it's the biggest ultimate fighter season of all the time.
Otherwise, you're gone.
I'm going to, until they pull me off, I'm hitting them as hard as I can.
And damn the rules.
Yeah.
Now, I also only had four fights at the time.
if I was a little more older, mature season,
I'd be looked at the ref, I'm like, what are we doing, dude?
Come on, bud.
Then, oh, dude, my face, my fist could have went through his face,
blood everywhere, I would have kept going.
Yeah.
I just didn't know.
Because I wonder if that's-
You're talking about a young killer, dude.
I've always wondered if that's something that goes to your head or not,
or if just the adrenaline that just pushes.
Never.
Never.
Even with the Krocop fight.
Like, he was clearly out, but he's this fucking Croatian zombie.
Yeah.
And then I hit him, and then he was like,
like fucking the undertaker's like uh i'm like oh hell no sure yeah you know yeah you don't like
a and then i get half my pay yeah if he somewhat pops up and kicks me in the face he's gonna do
the same thing very possible too that must have been a fucking nervous thing being like i don't want to
be on that highlight reel of his kicks because those kids are didn't think about it my my thing
in that fight was uh i was so hot at the time i was coming off four fights just beat the shed of gabriel
gonzaga i was trained with like shane carwin gsbd
starching dudes in the way in the training room start like i'm like oh and then when they give me crow cop
i'm like this old fuck i'm gonna beat the shit out of them yeah i was so cocky i was like i'm gonna knock
him out there and i'm gonna knock him out there and i had the fight of my life so i was actually
super disappointed and he was strong right you said so strong so strong so well versed ready for
everything i had and i'm so arrogant remember he's known for his head kick if you watch that fight
first thing i do is throw a high kick at him yeah they touch gloves fucking right high kick
blocked and smiles. He's like, you fuck him. I was like, let's that. Let's that. Yeah, I do one or two
because like, does that mentality make a big difference when you're like, you're on that
wind streak? Do you just feel like I'm untouchable? And it's just, you're a different fighter.
Like everything else. That was the best I've ever been. That's what I wanted. Me and you were
watching, what was the other day? It was Dominic Cruz versus, uh, T.J.
Cody Garber. And just watching that, that's like one of the best rounds of MMA I've ever seen in my life.
And then, but then you see him after he lost to TJ.
And he just, I still love the guy.
It's very, it's very hard when you get starsh, when you get knocked out.
It's not even that, especially with Dom.
Like, remember Dom was great before.
They were talking about one of the best ever.
He was great before then.
So you see him at an older virgin, even though he's great.
Well, I'm talking about Garbrand where like, Garbrand, the best he's ever been.
But then, but then also, you can only run at that many RPMs for so long.
So for some guys, it's two years.
For some guys, it's three fights.
For some guys.
it's two fights. For me, it was, I was in my prime for about three years and I only fought maybe
twice, three times a year. I had three years to do it. That's what they don't tell you. Yeah.
So in NFL, you can kind of work your way up, get going. Your year seven, eight, you're in your
prime. The UFC, it depends for you're, for most of us, we have about two years to make it to the top.
Yeah. After two years, you're still, you might, if you did well enough, you're still get big fights,
but you're never going to be champ. You have two years where you're your ultimate prime.
time two years so that's why like Alex who's like let's fight let he knows yeah my clock's my clock's
going yeah but he but he's heavier so he's he's he's in his prime so he's like uh my clock's going
like this let's fight let's fight let's fight make as much money as i can you have two years to run
at that red line you better fucking imagine the pressure you have two years to run at that fucking
it's like being a woman like at the like i have so many eggs left i got to make this happen
for i have a kid who's allergic to grass and it's out of control that's hollywood you're like an
ingenue for just a short period.
I would tell the UFC, hey man, I want to fight.
I'm ready to go.
I'm in my prime, but it's like.
And it's probably frustrating if the UFC is not giving you.
Not ready.
Yeah.
Or it's a timing thing and they want you to fight this guy.
Like, fuck, there's another six months.
And you're in your absolute prime.
Yeah.
And then even, it's not even after those, once you're around your red line,
like, even if you take a step back, you're still fucking good, but you're not elite.
And then there's, and then there's another guy coming up and now he's in his prime.
And you're a step behind.
Back then that you,
UFC would do things like, though, if you, you, I was with, I never told the story, but I was in Nate Markport, and they said, you have to take this fight. He's like, I'm 205 pounds. And they were like, if you don't take it, you'll get cut. Yeah. He's like, but I have a, I'm coming off an injury. I'm not, they're like, you have three weeks. And it was like, you better take that fight and figure it out. This is a thousand things, like a thousand moving parts. I guess that's why why it's so crazy, Anderson Silva being that long, that was a long, that was a long,
fucking prime. That's when people don't put him in the goats. That is that's how you can tell who's
been watching MMA since Connor McGregor? That's my favorite. Because that, I remember watching him.
Think about Connor too. If you look at it, most guys have a two-year window when they're in their
absolute crime. That's actually true, right? There's some outliers, John Jones, right? Yeah.
But remember, John, his very best, about two, three years there. Sure. Now, because of his knowledge
and IQ and his size and the, the, the, the, the, the class he's fine at, he's been able to extend
But you look at guys, GSP, there's about two years where they're the baddest motherfucker
walking the planet.
And then, again, I'm not saying they're not great, but they're not.
Even Kane, right?
Any, all of them.
All of us have.
John now is like at that Tom Brady at the end of his career stage where like he's still
the goat, but like he's not, he doesn't have the same step he had back, you know,
his IQ is great, but he's a little slower.
He's not putting things together as fast, you know.
Muscles are a little tighter.
Yeah, you have to fight a lot smarter.
But you go back.
watch him, you know, when he was 26, 25?
Fuck you, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why Anderson Silva to me is he's in the top three.
I remember the way he just, for that long to be that good and for his loss.
If you talk to guys who trained with him and know him really well, they would always say he's a fight nerd.
He would just get obsessed with different techniques and he loves the kung fu shit.
He loves it all.
Yeah, and he got too cocky.
But the same about that.
This is why Anderson Silva should be listed high.
higher for the greatest of all time.
This is why Alex Pierre should be listed higher.
This is why Izzy should be listed higher because they're strikers.
You know exactly what they're going to do and they still won the fight.
A Kabib, a GSP, a Makachev, Hamz, these wrestlers, they're wrestling.
They're wrestling.
Sure.
So your margin of error, your chances of losing isn't that high.
An Anderson Sibble can get knocked out any minute.
Alex can get knocked out any minute.
Is he's run?
Yeah.
Y'all must have fucking forgotten.
He fucking leapfrogged everybody.
He ran circles.
They had to find a fucking guy working a tire store in Brazil and be like, hey, can you come out and fight MMA?
Because he fucking ran circles on a competition.
They had nobody else for him.
So they got Alex Piera.
So remember, Izzy can't wrestle.
The only way he's going to beat you is by striking.
Yeah.
So the chance of him losing is so much higher than a Khabi.
a G.S.B. That's why when you talk about Mount Rushmore, I always put strikers so much higher.
Yeah. Because they don't have, they don't have that outlet where it's not going to my way. I'm going to take him down.
I'm still going to win. I'm going to get it. Yeah. And also that you could say that Khabib, as great as he was, didn't really fight.
The only wrestler he ever fought was Ayaka, whatever his name is. Well, you've heard my crazy take about.
You heard my crazy take about Khabib. I think Islam is the better fighter. I think Islam is much more likely to get or should get goats out.
But the fact that Khabib had the beating Connor part of his career and then retiring at undefeated, he has just so much more aura.
He's just so classy.
But I do think Islam is just the better fighter, the two.
His strength of schedules way better, too.
What's that?
Islam's legacy as far as strength of schedules much higher than Kibibu's.
I was thinking he's fighting better fighters.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's not an Akin Khab, like, is he fought better fighters than GSP?
It's just the games, the evolution of the game.
Sure.
Yeah.
I mean, they both fought some of the same people, too.
Yeah.
The way Islam's dominated.
But, and they're both fucking...
Islam's just a better version of Khabi.
Now, his grappling's not as high level.
But he's more well-rounded.
He's striking is way better.
Like, the fact that he was able to knock out Volcanowski, the fact that people are in
question if he could be outstrike, if the striking with him and Ilya, like, that just
shows that, like, because no one would have said that Khabib could strike with Ilya.
Yeah.
Yeah.
you've seen his low lights video as FM striking.
It's crazy.
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Nick, I want to ask you a quick.
So I always put a little asterisk on John Jones and Anderson because they both failed.
But when you see this test, when you see this test failure, do you think, okay, is this an accident?
Honestly.
No, because there's no sexual enhancement drug that makes you sleepy.
That's weird.
And I mean, that's the.
a 19 noir steroid which is actually going to kill your libido and not make you hard you know what i mean
like that's it's actually going to make your dick less but do me a favorite chin bring up
a narson sylva's uh fight uh his career who he fought i don't see that that's run his argument
this is like the barry bond's argument oh i still think barry bond's the best hitter of all time
it's not even it's not even remotely arguable but also the pitchers were on sauce too oh they were on
deck of to make it that's why guys like mike stanton was throwing correct fucking
heat in the late innings.
You want just the UFC's?
Yeah, just UFC.
Everything else does not matter.
Here we go.
So, this is when he started.
Yeah.
So Travis Luter tested hot.
Nate Markhart tested hot.
Dan Heston, I pretty sure test hot.
James Irving tested hot.
Are you saying these guys also tested hot?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's safe.
Damien, Maya, Chale Sonan, Vitor Bell 4.
Well, Chales also told his whole cycle.
Yep.
Everybody back then was,
was the way. Keep going. And then you lost the two, you know. So if you if you go through the last ones,
I don't give a fuck about, but if you go through when he's at the height of his career, that stuff,
everyone was doing it. Yet they hold it against Anderson. Dude, I look at those, those Chris
Weidman losses. And it's like the first one, he was just dancing and caught. That was not him being,
it wasn't like Chris got the better from that fight. And then just also breaking your leg in the second
fight. It's like those two losses are like, I'll tell you the problem with that one though.
Chris Wydenman. He checked the kid. In his prime. If you took Chris Wideman in his prime and he took
Anstrelson in his prime, I'd take Chris Wideman. Because of his wrestling. Dude, I'm telling you,
he was a mother fucker. Chris White. And now, again, he was only hot for about a year. He was running at
high RPMs for about a year. That year, good fucking. But he's kind of getting starched the first fight.
Luke Rockhold did some, did some work.
Luke would have been a nightmare for Anderson probably.
You think so?
I think so,
because Luke was training on a daily basis
with Daniel Cormier and Kane Velasquez,
and so his wrestling and everything else was just testing.
He didn't use it, though.
So then he'd be forced to strike with Anderson,
he would have got lit up like a Christmas tree.
He's like a Gaichi where Gaichi was a D1 wrestler.
No one doesn't use his wrestling.
I don't go fuck who he's working with.
When's the last time you've seen Gaichi's shoe to take down?
He doesn't.
Anderson's on his prime.
is such a high IQ fighter.
Such a special fighter.
This is a current invention?
Yeah.
This is Dana White yesterday talking about Patty Pimbled.
Are you surprised that Patty is at this level?
We knew he was a fan favorite.
The fans loved him all that.
But did you think that he was a championship level fighter?
Or did something change?
He reminds me of the Connor McGregor story because, you know,
came in with this great personality.
Can agree with him.
And they were always overload.
Every time they fought.
everybody believed that they were going to lose.
And Patty has been that guy more so than Connor McGregor.
And obviously, this is a huge test for him.
Connor's fighting.
And, you know, Gaitchie's been wanting a shot at the title again.
So we've got it.
Here we go.
Right.
Yeah, I think it was after the Chandler fight that I said,
God damn, this guy is the real deal.
He's not with Patty.
Obviously, they both fought Chandler.
Every time he fights, you know, he's the underdog.
And people think he's going to lose.
Are you surprised?
First off, Dana looks fucking jack.
than that. Yeah, he does. Maybe he is in shape chin. It's just weird. Maybe he was bloated that
dude. It also might just spin that tie like around his neck. You know, it meant too tight.
Yeah, when I wear like a collar shirt, that's, how long have I been preaching about Patty Pimlet?
So you agree with that. Since day one, yeah. And we did the food truck with him. I'm telling me.
And I love Patty. I've been, you know, I've interviewed everybody. There's only two people that are like
unicorns. And it's Connor and Patty. How do you see? He just has the it factor.
That's every fucking fucking. I think he's got aura as a as a star, but to
think, I don't know, it's a different, such a different career.
I think he rises to the occasion.
Something happens to him.
I think he's probably a ridiculously good athlete, too.
We, we, but the, the difference is, is we don't, we don't know what Patty's capable
of yet, because he hasn't really been tested.
Yeah.
Now, we, now, but he's getting better every single fight.
I was going to ask you about.
Do you think he's getting better every fight?
He's improving every fight, right?
Leaps and bounds.
Like, when he saw him against Chandler, like, oh, shit, his striking looks good.
Yeah.
His footwork looks good.
Yeah.
So I, if, so if you, if he's on that trajectory, you look at him against Justin Gage and he's gotten even better, it's like, he's going to be a fucking problem.
Yes.
The only problem is like there was never, I don't know if it's been a while, but like the thing about Patty is like everyone already feels like he's going to lose to Iliot.
Was there anybody, I guess I guess you could say Aldo was that version of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Aldo.
I just, I can't see a world where Patty Pimblit beats Ilya, but I guess that's kind of his.
point that's the thing yeah you you you don't know how he's going to do it but patty on the ground
when he gets on your back is super special we'll see if he can do it though i'm very interested to see
ilia when he final because he said he's coming back in june april or june june june is going to be his
next fight yeah but i'm interested to see if he comes back oh that could be a good fight
against patty that could be a good fight man oh man i'd like to see that that's a
neither are american but i still want to see that fucking fight and if patty close enough and if patty
beats alia you're talking about the face of the you the legit have their next
i'll change my winner winner gets greenland
that would be so cool would that be sick winter gets greenland and a nice
just grabs the mic and says that winter gets greenland winter gets greenland
gets minneapolis dude that's so much more fair than going to war let us fucking let us
fight out in the octagon uh you take your best fire from greenland and what they're
You can even take your best of Denmark.
You can have your best from NATO and we'll still, yeah.
Actually, maybe not NATO.
No, Denmark, yes.
Yes. What's this to?
No, does Nip?
Yeah, so Islam Makachev, he named as who he wants to fight.
Michael Morales.
Michael Morales is an intriguing fight to me.
I think he's.
So basically he said he thinks that it's, he's like he was undefeated a few days ago.
Today he's undefeated again, even though he got choked out.
and he's basically saying like he wants to be the one that actually changes everything around.
I like that.
Do you think that Morales could even last a round?
Well, Morales, remember, was on the Ecuadorian national wrestling team.
And you know the wrestling in Ecuador.
Judeo.
I didn't know that.
I think he was a wrestler too.
I think it was wrestling.
Because his mom was a judoka, but he was also a wrestler.
Now, I don't know what Ecuador is, I don't think Ecuadorian wrestling is as good as
Dagestani wrestling?
I know, that's great.
I will say.
But he's a very special athlete, man.
This kid is tough.
Michael Marlis has fucking power.
Oh, yeah.
Like fucking power.
Oh, yeah.
And also, Islam has been caught before.
Yeah, man.
It has happened.
He hits hard.
So at age 10, he switched from judo to wrestling.
He went tournament at age 14.
So he doesn't have a high level level of wrestling.
Yeah.
He wrestled to he's 14.
No, no.
I think he kept wrestling.
No.
It says then he'd be in MMA at a young.
age.
He turned professional when he was 16.
His wrestling's not going to offer anything.
His wrestling isn't world class.
His wrestling pedigree is the same as yours, Bubba.
As a matter of fact, you have more.
I might have more.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, with him being the way he dresses and the way he acts at parades, that's a hard loss
for his life.
I love it.
That's a guy you'd have to send it to Dagestan.
Morales might be my favorite fighter of all time.
I said it.
What?
I like his fashion style.
I like it.
Islam's probably, yeah, this kid has a lot of hype.
He probably sees some holes in his game,
especially when he comes to wrestling.
So he's like, let me be the one to take him out first,
to take out a contender.
That's what he's doing there.
He's like, no, let me get to him before the rest you get to him.
The other fight that they're also talking about with him is Usman.
Kamar.
You mean with,
Kamar Islam?
I love that idea.
I don't know how,
I don't know how Kamaral can train.
I don't know what his knees are about right now,
but I love that idea.
How do you feel about a prime,
Kamaro versus Islam?
That's a fight.
And that is a,
I mean,
I don't even know who.
He's so out of his prime,
but that's a fight.
I don't know who I'm,
but even out of his prime,
the way he wrestled with,
with Hamza.
I don't know if I'm,
I don't know who I'm betting on
in that fight, actually.
I think that that would be by far
Islam's toughest challenge.
Camaro was a mother-fucker.
He was a monster back of that.
He was a motherfucker.
Yeah.
His striking,
his wrestling,
everything.
He,
he,
by the way,
his cardio was also second.
He fucked up,
Joaquin Buckley.
Yeah.
He's a beast.
Yeah.
That wasn't,
I mean,
that was a few months ago.
Yeah, he's a beast.
And Buckley's a fucking powerhouse.
People forget about Camaro,
I think.
He's a fucking monster.
Is he that far out of his prime
that that would be,
you think?
Watch the Comzot fight again.
Yes,
Consout had all the wrestling
for the first two rounds,
but that last round.
Yeah,
it's five rounds.
It's a different story.
It's different.
I think it's more interesting
than Morales or stuff.
And Camaro's a legend, he'd be a good feather in the cap of Islam.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
It'd be nice.
Sorry.
Can we get to the next?
Because I want to see this.
I found this.
It's the coolest thing on the internet I found.
This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life.
All right.
Whose women or the strongest dwarfs?
The first challenge was a one rep max on squads, but they made every weight look like nothing.
Even the women squatted four and five weeks.
And she jumped right to five plates, but the dwarfs made it look even easier.
And he won this challenge by squatting six plates.
The next challenge was what Brennan thinks will have.
I do shoulder-propos.
The dwarfs did it in 19.3 seconds,
and the woman actually beat them by doing it in 19.2 seconds.
Moss wrestling was the next event, and the woman actually dominated this challenge.
Two, one, go.
They have leverage, right?
Well, no, they have small fingers.
Now, the fourth challenge was a deadlift ladder, and the strongest dwarfs won this,
so it was now tied two to two.
Tung of war was the next, but it was first a 3V1,
which was easy for the dwarfs to win,
but not as easy for the 3V2, and the woman actually won this.
And then 5v5, the woman win as well.
It is funny that the strongest woman are, this is their challenge.
This is the best one challenge and the men tied this up.
So they then did a tiebreaker relay race.
There was a longer video of them wrestling.
But the dwarfs came all the way back and officially won.
Who's stronger giant women or?
Versus the women in competitive wrestling take downs or throwing out of that.
And the dwarves Mollywopped them.
Really?
Wow.
Because they have leverage or what?
It's kind of hard to get low and shoot it.
How do you shoot a double on it?
Why is this not being talked about every one of the concert?
Why isn't this on ESPN?
Why isn't this the biggest news before over everything else?
Because the dwarves win?
The dwarves crushed it.
The dwarves.
And the only thing I'll give the women credit,
when you're deadlifting and you have a very short.
Squat too.
They're going like two inches.
Yeah.
Good for them though.
It's kind of embarrassing with you.
What's this?
Just play it?
Nickerlo's.
So this guy.
is who a lot of people go to for, I was telling you
about this guy, he puts
out a lot of good takes on
MMA.
Okay.
He's coming from Ali of Deliziz, the manager
of Justin Gatsey. He says,
oh yeah, Justin somehow beats Patty Pendlet.
I think we should do Justin Gatesie
versus Connor McGregor, especially
Billy Toporia vacates. I say we do
Connor McGregor, Justin Gatsey,
settle it for a grudgemance for an undisputed
title, and we can put this anywhere.
If you think that Ali can't do this,
friendly reminder that part of the reason that Kamara Usman's title run is like it's impressive don't get
me wrong but the reason why it's like remats remats remats is because of Ali.
Ali's a super powerful movie.
Ali is part of that.
People forget this dude.
Remember when Nick Diaz made his comeback to the UFC against Robbie Lawler?
Ali Abdelaziz said that if Nick Diaz beat Robbie Lawler, he would have allowed Nick Diaz to face
Kamara Usman for a title shot.
Brother, this isn't even the first time that Ali has been like, yeah, no, one of my guys can
face Connor McGregor. Dude, you guys remember when Connor McGregor versus
Usman was something that was actually being talked about? That's because of Ali. Ali does not
like Connor at all. He just wants to have his guys face Connor. That's for a couple of reasons.
I remember why too. He wants the money. Well, also, Connor was calling Ali a terrorist and all that.
Is that the guy he called a terrorist? I believe so, yeah. It is.
Yeah. Could this, I have the background on that? I don't. I do. I do.
a little bit can you can you nope nope my i like collie we're buddy i like allie i will say that
would be the best fight for connor i think gachy connor gachy connor would be because they're you know
gaichi's not shooting he's not shooting a double i think that's the best comeback fight for connor
mosvidal too it'd be the tough it'd be the toughest fight for connor yeah like an active guy that's
a tough fight yeah what are the i wonder what the the only thing is i just don't know if patty could
beat Gachy.
Especially
He's not...
You don't think Patty beats Gajee?
No, I mean, I don't think Gachia could beat Patty, so it's almost like...
He can, but it's going to be tough.
He can, though. He definitely can.
Isn't Patty a lot bigger than Gachy, too?
I think Patty Pimpel beats Gage.
Well, he's a two to one favor.
We're not saying anything that nobody else is saying, but
don't... I mean, Gage can...
He could win, for sure.
Yeah. He can win.
Listen, I love Patty. I think he's the next time of Gregor.
He does get it. But he has huge holes in his game with his chin.
Chins high against a guy like Gachi.
Especially if he gets against the cage,
like he goes fucking nutsos.
It's true.
All that being said,
Patty's probably going to win,
but I mean,
I would not be surprised if Gathe knocks him out.
I will say,
I thought Gachy,
and I love Dustin,
Dustin's the fucking man,
but I did not think that Gachie had a chance
against Dustin and he fucking proved me wrong.
Yeah, he really fucking proved me wrong.
No, Gachie could definitely win.
And Gachie Conner would be fucking fireworks.
I would love that fight.
But would that,
guy, shout out to that guy, him, you know, Ali, of course, man, because you remember, he gets 10%
of the purse.
So Connor's the biggest cash cow.
And they also have a history with the Khabib stuff, all that, like, Ollie was involved
in all that.
Yeah.
That is a big payday.
Huge pay.
Yeah.
And Ollie's probably the most powerful manager in the game.
You think so?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's this here?
So this is a United Kingdom Health Ambassador.
She's from Wales.
She's a health ambassador.
Yeah.
Does she eat?
Baluga whales?
Who is from ethnic minority?
Is that a beluga whale?
That speaks English?
I think whales was like, maybe if we get a real whale.
Let me see what she's saying.
A sensitive topic to talk about.
Start again. Start again.
Start again.
A person who is from ethnic minority background.
You know, some communities, it's actually taboo to, and you know, it's quite a sensitive topic
to talk about.
So if you're not being able to learn about these things through the medium of school,
then where do you learn, you know?
And I wish when I was in school, we were, you know,
they teach us in Welsh back and back back about, you know,
how to apply for a bank account and how to, you know, get a job.
But what about things like how to check if, you know, do a breast exam?
How do I know if, you know, signs of cervical cancer, screenings?
When am I supposed to get those, you know,
that things are going to prolong my life?
I'm sorry, but it looks like a ghost is holding her cheeks together.
It looks like a ghost is pushing her cheeks into her nose.
I said it out loud.
Is the hijib too tight?
What's going on here?
She's super fat, Brennan.
She is an obese woman.
She looks like the...
She's so fat that the fat had nowhere else to go.
And it went to her cheeks, dude.
Like, you know you're eating too much.
She's the one that goes, oh, I can't have bread to go straight to my face.
Dude, tell me...
I'm sorry, but this is the kind of shit.
You're a health ambassador.
I'm sorry.
She's a health ambassador.
Health Ambassador from Wales, an actual whale.
And it's like, it's like the fat hat literally is like, we got no room down here.
We got to move it up.
Moving up guys.
We're way too crowded.
And I'm being a dick.
I never make fun of anybody for obesity, especially not women.
But in this case, I'm sorry that that's.
Have you ever seen when, like they show like a famous trumpet guy when he's blown on the trumpet?
Yeah.
Louis Armstrong.
Are you playing?
She is.
She is the iPhone.
This reminds me of COVID when all the health people were like, look like the walking dead.
She is the iPhone moon emoji in real life.
Yes.
Daddy's got to go.
Okay.
All right.
You guys want to just.
Yeah, let's end it there.
That was a fun one, boys.
We did it.
Nicholas, thank you, brother.
Nicholas.
See you guys in San Jose this weekend.
Let's go.
I'll be with you.
Yep.
Go see Brian, San Jose.
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