The Fighter & The Kid - This Is Why Jake Paul Is In Serious Danger vs Anthony Joshua | TFATK Ep. 1142

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen dive deep into the wild world of combat sports — and this episode is loaded. From Jake Paul’s shocking matchup with Anthony Joshua to Dana White revealing personal stories about Francis Ngannou, this is one of the most stacked Fighter and the Kid conversations in months.Brendan breaks down exactly why Jake Paul vs Anthony Joshua is one of the most insane events in modern boxing. From AJ’s Olympic pedigree to Jake’s rapid rise and massive risk, Schaub explains the real danger, how the fight could end, and why boxing could be in trouble if things get weird. He also reveals behind-the-scenes insight into how Joshua is preparing, including training with Usyk’s camp.Bryan and Brendan also react to Dana White’s intense story about Francis Ngannou, Jake Paul’s next-level confidence going into the fight, the UFC Qatar card, Machado Garry’s rise, the lightweight and welterweight divisions, Dustin Poirier’s insight on grappling with world-level wrestlers, and what needs to happen for MMA and boxing to stay grounded in reality.The guys also talk Jeff Dye’s viral GoFundMe controversy, the culture around youth sports, health industry scams, baseball politics, MRI scans, longevity, and the hilarious chaos that always follows the Fighter and the Kid.If you want MMA insight, boxing analysis, and the funniest breakdowns on the internet — this episode is loaded front to back. Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatkRidge Wallet - Take advantage of Ridge’s Biggest Sale of the Year and GET UP TO 47% Off by going to https://www.ridge.com/Fighter #RidgepodDraftKings - Download the DraftKings Pick6 app now and use code FIGHTER. That’s code FIGHTER — New DraftKings customers can play just $5, and get $50 in Pick6 creditsProgressive - Visit http://progressive.com/ after this episode to see if you could saveSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Yes, we did, because we back at it again. It's the fighter and the kid. This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. He said, you want to straight up? I feel like you actually have a bond with your AI guy now, right?

Like, to a certain degree. I do not, because it's a computer, but people do. People do. Right? It is weird. Because he's human. Yeah, you use them. I find myself going to thank you.

You use them a lot, yeah? I go, thank you. Thank you very much. Use him a lot. Yeah, I had to stop. because I don't trust AI. I think AI's fucked up. I don't believe that.

I think it's gross. Yeah, we're starting. You're already rolling. Okay. Yeah, I think it's gross. AI? Yeah, I think AI is disgusting. You ready for this?

You're ready for a reality check? Use it more than anybody. No, I don't. I mean, on your phone? Literally me or I were just talking as AI goes, you want it straight up? Yeah, yeah. Because I put in my settings, I go,

I don't need you to be nice to me. Okay, if I ask him a question, like that's a great question you know i'm like hey dude just give me just be google for me yeah and then but he's got such a great voice it's like it's just and you change it to a black fella i did it's like here let's let's let's talk but i wish you could make it more like hood let's well hey man i'm just feeling a little i'm just not that motivated today can you um help me out here hey no sugar coating got it honestly we all have those days where motivation is just playing hard to get. So let's just tell it like it is. Sometimes you're just not going to feel that

jazzed up. And that's okay. We can talk through it and maybe find something that actually sparks a bit of energy. But yeah, if you want the straight up truth, it's totally fine to have a low motivation day. Let's see if we can find a little spark from there. Thanks, man. God, if you need that to fucking need it. Do you know how many people are, do you know how many people are using chat GPT as their friend? A lot. And they're psychiatrists. This guy. No, no. No, I swear I'm not. no chin off here goes Brian I feel like you're pretty attached to your AI guy shut up chin now I'm defending him yeah I'm not we're just talking it's just a friend of

mine yeah I don't have my phone I like I can't even do that well it's so much easier than googling so so um you know Tucker Carlson had this guy on Dr. Daniel Aiman who's a neurosciences has that brain imaging thing and they've done all these studies he was looking at all these studies on, like, you know, across the scientific panel. Marijuana, not that great for your brain, apparently. I know it's going to shock you. I know it's going to shock you. And either was mushrooms.

All the psilocybin talk, like people are microdosing all the time. But I think, uh, it's different, right, for like soldiers or CT stuff like that. I think that's different. Absolutely. But for the common person, like the 21 year old, whatever, up? Well, teenagers. So, so. Well, yeah, the frontal lobe.

We've known that for a hot set. You think? Like, like, said, like, yeah, we know this, though. but a lot of people don't so it's been but you and i've known this for years and even rogan says this yeah like that's not what he's saying is nothing new in our world no but i'm saying that what happens is if you look it became like in the 90s he was saying so in the 90s it was like they came out and said wine or alcohol is like in moderation is good for your heart so napa valley was like holy shit let's sell a much wine well that science says no it's not even a glass or two is

I mean, I'm always going to drink, but it's like... Better not to. Better not to. And then marijuana became medicine. People were like, no, it's good for you. It's fine. It doesn't do anything to you. Well, you know, I remember going, I get so high I can't drive.

So I'm sorry. Like, what are you talking about? And then benzos, like Xanax and stuff. That was like, it was totally fine. Well, it turns out it's not. No. So all these drugs that we talk about, like ADHD, like Adderall for ADHD, sir, that they prescribed to children.

Look, some of it does have an effect. I'm not a psychiatrist, so there is medication that works sometimes. Like the Prozac does work. It helps people not kill themselves at times. You can't say across the board the stuff is shitty, but it's got to be done, like really specifically.

My thing is with all this stuff. Marijuana, ADHD, medicine, adoral, all this shit. therapy, AI, talking to your AI, get all close to your AI. Same thing. Hold on. How are things going? Same shit, though.

Like overall, suicides up, depression. Dude. All these kids with these issues, jump into trans, confused about their pronouns. Oh, you mean? How's all this going? Oh, it's not working out? Because when all this wasn't here, wait. Wait, wait, wait, why?

Because 32% by a lot of, like, measures of teenage girls report having thought about suicide. That's not normal, huh? Social media. But it's not just social media, dude. Like, I, when I had kids. I'd say social media is the biggest factor. But so is the idea that you, like, even the whole industry of psychiatry, when my kids were young, we went to this child rearing expert. And I'm listening to her.

And she's got all these degrees on the wall. And she's saying, you've got to acknowledge your child's feelings. You have big feelings. I have big feelings. I honor where you are. I was like, I don't know. a culture that raises their kids that way talk to a dominican mom you go to miami everybody's happy and having a good time talk to those like cuban dominican venusuelan mothers and say hey acknowledge

your kid when he's being a fuck talk to joe talk to your mexican wife about that shit see how that goes the fuck out of here i'll throw my fucking shoe at you but it's all monday it's all just making money it's a business that's all it is they take advantage of the parents it's just business but it's just but and it's in all aspects but it's in all aspect but it's all it's just as a parent you can't get fucking caught up in it i mean how many baseball coaches man if he had this slider man i got the guy let me guess $100 an hour yeah man uh-huh uh-huh man we get this hitting coach with his elbow dude he worked with the pros let me guess a hundred dollars an hour uh-huh yeah man there's this elite team in texas sign up for that

it's only $3,000 a month oh okay it literally it's it's in sports and whatever your kids it It's just a business dude. So the parents, you just got to not get fucking hustled. So, like, health is always that way, right? So you and I always do. If you're a dummy. Well, well, there's a whole industry, right? Of course.

I mean, they're the health experts. Everybody from Gary Brecker telling you to hydinate your water to, you know, we've got a thousand people out there. And so I went to get an MRI scan, this place called Corviva in Newport Beach. And this guy, Dr. Alan Alexander, who was the Dodgers and Lakers guy. He was the guy who would, you know, the, the MRI guy. So he'd look at your injuries and stuff. He's had a lot of experience.

He was also the one of the guys who was the researcher at NIH on intermittent fasting. So you got to, you know, fast me. And so I'm like, whoa, and he was one of the authors of that. So he's been around, longevity's been his thing. You see him. He surfs every day. He's great shape. He's 50, and I thought he was like literally 35.

So I'm like, okay. So this guy walks the walk. So I'm like, so tell me. better than fasting tell me about all this stuff and he's like he goes look you want to know the truth after all this studying and all the stuff looking at supplements creatine he goes sleep move work out and try to eat clean and then try to not drink a lot and don't do a bunch of marijuana he goes it's about that simple yeah and the other stuff you know okay but a help but it's not the end all be all it's simple yeah well you have like your base right you have your base base is

sleep, eat decent, and work out. That's it. Then what you do outside of that will add to it. Sure. But if those three things are fucked up, intermittent fasting, whatever you want to take. Protein, steroids, peptides, none of it matters. If those three pillars aren't fucking, boom. Now, I went to, I went and worked out with Dakota Shepley, who was played for the Cowboys.

And I think the Eagles did some, you know, did some time in the NFL center for the, uh, for the cowboys got some playtime 305 handsome fella and he took there he is handsome he's a handsome oh yeah great guy great guy you'd love him and uh college ball at you just one of those giant dudes 36 inch vertical leap and all that stuff freak where do you play british columbia oh yeah the first NFL got to come out of the university of british Columbia first guy uh canadian hilarious so uh either way good for him oh yeah and i was doing out of canada took us to the ultimate took us to the ultimate meat head gym me and nick simmons and my boy nick callus and you know nick loves that stuff and it was just a real real

bodybuilding guy time i mean it ain't it ain't it ain't like they're just using sleep they're not just sleeping and eating well Oh, they're sleeping. Oh, they're eating well. They're eating well. Got some miracle growing in your corn flakes every morning. Where was that in Plano? That was in Plano, Texas, or like, yeah.

That was in Plano. And I think it's called the, I can't remember, but what a gym. The ladies. The ladies. The, the, this one gal who won the 2017 strong man powerlifting. Huge. Worlds. Just jacked.

jacked and we have a lot of mutual friends who came up since that said hi great gal and that is where you feel so my type she was grabbing her arms i just had a she does body work i told her i go my fantasy was more like you're training me you train me and i get bigger i know i know it's so okay well i'm old now i'm not i know it's cucky shit yeah it's all because she's she's it's all good man she's she's so immersed in it yeah i know it's come on bro be cool with me me but uh talk about feeling a little less than you feel like you would you be into her putting like yeah i don't know like a chain around your neck and kicking in the nuts on the ground no huh no dude do you get off to that at night no i don't want a little bit you mean like like

walk me around like a dog yeah yeah i'm not into being dominated bro no no that's not my thing there's there's i just appreciate the aesthetic of a woman there's no smaller guy who's into big chicks and just wants to like you know no i'm but i'm because there's the reason you're into is because she can slap you around a little. No, no, no, no, man. Come on, I'm not, I'm not into being slapped around. And she's not like that. That's her?

No, that's not her. She's, she's, she's, you know, she's petite, but musk. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, she's small. Like, like, almost like a fitness model. Tattoos. Gin, bring her up for God's sake.

I'm trying to, what's her name? I don't want to put her on blast. I want to put her on blast. But she's, she's great. They look all. Oh, Jessica, Jessica Pop. Jessica Pop. Oh, no.

Jamie Pop, Jamie Pop Great gal Came with her competitor friend And just a great gym So it's just a really good weekend For you as far as Yeah, getting strong Shit that you're into

Do big dues, big women Yeah, but she's she's Just in shape So let's take a little break You know about these Ridge wallets? Do I ever? My father-in-law It came in the mail

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dot com do you have to get 47% off your order yeah they're good this one probably I don't know hold on does any of these girls look familiar you could no you could probably go back to him because that's like an article I brought this I brought this fucking That's got to be her, yeah? Yeah. Wait, let me see.

There she is. There she is, Qie Pie. Thank God we found out. Yeah, she's super pretty. Yep. Yep. And great gal. Okay, solved.

Jesus Christ. Yeah, but more of it, more, I just admire, I admire the commitment and the fact that she was the strongest lady in the world at one point. Yeah, you're super in that stuff. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I love excellence.

You like big checks. She's not big, though. She's like, strong. Strong. Strong. You like strong. Because, because, because, Daddy ain't that strong.

And I need somebody to train me like that. No, you don't. Just so I can get jacked. It ain't going to happen. No. Ain't going to happen. I put a dog collar on. I do think about you.

Don't say that. Well, guys that are in the strong women, that's what it is. No, I'm not. That's not me. I just appreciate it. It's like a white chick saying I'm into black guys and I kill you like big dicks. I'm like, how dare you? no no i like them you know it's like no no we got no bro we all know what it is no bro i don't

when a smaller guy goes i like big muscle chick it's like no i'm not into being dominated well i'm i'm an alpha all right i like you're pegged huh you pegged yeah yeah that's how that's how that movie ends no what that starts with you on the ground with your with your collar on and then there's the ball gag and then you're like i i guess you can kick me in the nuts from the back and then it turns into oh put on those boots put on the dock mark and Will Sassos sent us that video

they just stumble that dude's big nutsack yeah Sassel just sent me a video of just here here Chin here's what Saso sent me there's the last thing Sassau sent me just out of nowhere just out of nowhere

because you know he's got to keep me honest dude how about that Abbott Kenny Fight Club merch Finally. Love it. Finally, you got to it, Brendan. Good God.

It's great, though. Look at my shirt. We got these on sale. Well, not yet, right? When's it on sale? I'll keep you posted. I mean, definitely for Black Friday. Did you get that video?

Not yet. Definitely Black Friday. We just got to offer an original gray and black version. Because the original was gray and black. We did offer white and black. Love it. And then this has Eric Kenny on the back, too. Yeah.

it's loading brown we'll make it available to the patreon first though mm-hmm um loaded no i haven't no one i went so i got i got an MRI scan oh yeah got an MRI scan the wife got an MRI scan did you go with delia because delia did the same thing no you guys went separate yeah went separate did did did delia did he reach out to the lea maybe uh literally same i i assume you guys missed each other by like hours seriously yeah wait let's watch did you go on thursday this what this is what this is what Delea sent me. Delear or Sasse?

I'm sorry, this is what Saso sent me. Sasser goes, hey, this is a game. I said, football, game of inches. Because what are you doing? Watch and he goes, yeah, how about this game of inches? He goes, and I go, what's the point of that? He goes, to get stinky fingers. Let me see.

oh so it looks like he has tits too huh it looks like he has tits he does well he's just fat this shit is weird but is it a game some kind of mud some kind of indian but then why why is everybody into it oh reverse oh this might but this might oh you just have like it's got but indies might this is like ufc i think i think i think so yeah yeah this is some weird shit where you're trying to it's very sexual. It's a little sexual. Yeah, and I guess having a belly is not that. Can you imagine being the ref for that? Look at those tits on him. Those are real, yeah, wiggle room at rock bottom. A lot of wiggle room at rock bottom. If you're a ref for that. There's a coach. That guy coaches. That's that guy's been in the trenches. Oh, wait, so how did your... My MRI scan? I can't believe you could

delete one that same day for you two. You just always like, you know, the scary part is that they do they'll look at your joints, you know, my spine and my neck could, my brain could. I've had other, I've had MRIs before. So I know that, you know, I'm good, but then they do the old scanneroo for any kind of a tumor. And they look at the places where it hides. A lot of people, I so many people in my age, like, I don't want to do that. I'm like, but do it because they'll catch cancers early, which they have at this place. clearly you don't have anything i don't no you would have called me i assume yeah but they just scan

the shit out of you and they but as they're going with you they do it right there so you don't wait for the results you do your scan takes about 45 minutes and then you're in there with the doctor as they go through every i have some micro tears in the old achilles he goes you're achilles store i go they sure are he goes yeah got some micro tears be careful probably just from yeah yeah just from your age and just you know playing tennis and shit yeah yeah uh but pretty good good, man. Good knees, good neck, good back, good brain, all that shit. So, you knew, right? I guess you do. But you do. The only thing you need is the cancers. Yeah. Other than that. You can have a little, little something, something hiding, which they've already caught, they've been open three months. It's already caught 17 cancers. That's good. But in early stages, you know, they just like that. Like, thanks, man. You've had it.

Yeah, I've had it. MRI for what just like? Just in general, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I did that and I did the, the, the, blood work right the grail the grail they check for all the cancers yeah how you doing that one's big zero yeah zero i mean you would know man oh yeah you know can you imagine i was like i didn't tell you stage four dude oh my god can you imagine i know we suck at communication but can you imagine it's like i do pancre stage four you believe that yeah sometimes you know those doctors will get like you'll come in and a woman will say i've got rib pain you know it's like what do you mean rib pain you know when it's too late it's it's getting set match man especially pancreas something like that all that shit my back my lower back it's radiating to my lower back what do you

mean starts here no all that shit's scary yeah all that shit's scary now sometimes it's not but other times it's like dude t had his last his last game this year fall ball's over your boy gets a little break fall ball's over i think that's an intense schedule and for you too because you're not traveling now you get to kind of sit i love it though yeah but they don't they only get two months off and then they pick up in february and then it's spring there's always there's always uh real housewives of do you not watch any NFL football none some good games damn none eagles no eagles got beat by the cowboys yeah cowboys were ahead by yeah what i was going to tell you though with the baseball this weekend is the in travel ball teams there's always you know there's always

disgrunt their parents. So the way your team looks in the fall, it's going to be different from the spring. Why is that? Certain dads just, you know, don't agree with coaching or have a different philosophy. So they pull their kids. Yeah.

It's always different dynamics. Really? Yeah. And where do they put their kids in another travel ball team or something? Yeah. Or start their own. Or the kids not playing enough. Or they just, I don't,

it's always a fucking, you know. It could be a money thing too, right? No, not usually. Not that level. But some. But then some. They'll cover their expenses, you know. Yeah.

So it's not a money thing. Because they're that good, some of these kids. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Gets competitive.

We'll see. Yeah. Hmm. It's always awkward, you know. Did you watch the UFC this weekend? Oh, yeah. Thoughts? Thank God it was on early, too, man.

I don't mind that. Yeah, not at all. Where was that? Qatar. Guitar? Guitar. Guitar? Guitar.

Yeah. better yeah i could have called the sarukian thing i think everyone could yeah well i think everyone kind of called the main inco yeah you do that waldo acosta that motherfucker's a problem he's had five fights and under a year just knocking everybody out i didn't see that i didn't see that he's a problem at heavyweight really yeah yeah yeah fuck yeah i think he has four fights in calendar a year but i know five like he's just starching dude he just fought this month too he got poking the eye by tom aspinall's guy man everybody needs something like that you know what's his thing just knocking dudes out just a crazy fucking right hand um imachado gary mohammed he's just did you watch it

no i didn't see the yeah i saw the sarukin chowal and sarukin yeah uh no you saw uh bala and eymchato again. Yes. Yes. Um, I, I just never count Balala because I think he's got such a high fight IQ, but that's because we like him. Yeah. That's a nightmare. Well, but, yeah. He didn't have a chance. He didn't have a chance. You knew right away. It's, it's tough, man. It's tough. Um, God, he's good. Can I ask you, like, his thing is, he's so good. So good. Um, it's kind of like, who wants to get beat by Islam? That's, you? That you, That's your trophy. Who's going to beat Islam?

I can go through it. There's not a lot of guys that... Machado Gary is a problem for Islam. Wouldn't you say? I don't know. I mean... Man, I mean, if there's anybody that's going to be able to do something. But what's he going to do?

He's not a knockout artist. So his best method of victory is to what? Kick him the face. Okay, who's done that to him? But again, with Islam, It's like, is he and Machado Gary going to last 25 minutes with Islam? Well, the thing is Ian also seems to be a bit of a counterpuncher, isn't he? He kind of isn't.

Yeah, he can do both. Yeah, he can do both. But then also, he's going to get pushed against the cage. Yeah, and then people go, man, his takedown defense still get against Balal. Okay, Blal's a far. I love Blah. Far cry from Islam. Far cry.

Take down wise. Yeah, it's just a different animal. So. But then again, maybe Ian Machado is. So those long, that long, it's like the, it's like when Izzy fought, you know, UL in a way. It was like, why isn't you all taking him down? But when the guys are really long, like, um, no, that era, man, no, UL didn't even engage it. That was one of the worst fights in, it doesn't make sense.

It's like, why don't you just wrestle him? It wasn't that, because he doesn't wrestle in general. So it'd be different if you will wrestle. Yeah. That's a bad example. You know what I'm saying? It's just, that was a bad fun. Jack and Jeff can take Ian Machado Gary down

at will, right? Yes. Yeah, height's not a factor there. And the problem is, I just don't know what you do, it's like... You're not getting up. You're not getting up. Once he's got you down, you're not getting up. Machado might be able to. I talked to Dustin Porier, because we shot something over the... Uh-huh. I had such a great... It was so great.

Last week, I was with your boy Corey Sanhagen, who was hilarious. It's funny guys. Hilarious and awesome and smart. Rosenomai Yunus. But what did Dustin say? And so Dustin, I was talking to Dustin. about fighting both guys, Kabib and, you know, and Islam. And he was like, dude, he goes, I've never felt anything like that.

Now, Dustin's seen a lot of looks. Dustin has been with serious wrestlers. At American top team, they've got Olympians, they got everybody there. He said, dude, their feet are like hands. They're going to trip you. If they got you against the thing and you're thinking about this, they're going to trip you. They're going to grab you. And he said, he put up a good showing.

He put a hell of a show. up. But Dustin said their strength. It's their strength. And most importantly, when they're on top of you and you've got all your escapes, they're ahead of you. They're just ahead of you. And it's micro adjustments that you're just not even aware of. So it's, there's just, no matter how many looks you've seen, who's seen more fights. Dustin's had 53 fights. Dustin's an American top team. Dustin's top of the food chain in every way. And, you know, he's like, there's just a, there's a limit there's a limit they're doing something those guys have done they figured out something that people haven't that's a it's a puzzle people haven't solved yeah i think

dustin after that fight even went in and said to kabib and islam he's like hey congrats whatever you guys are doing of course you know what else you're gonna do you got to give it up yeah i don't it's but if you look at the welterweight division it's like i you and you know much out of Gary deserves it. If you look at it. Like the notion of Shavkat, he's had so much time off. He's just,

it doesn't make a ton of sense. Well, is Shavcott injured or is he good? He was injured. You know, he was injured. But now, after he fought Ian Machado, he should be ready to go. No, he's been injured since that. He's been out for a hot second.

That's a problem. That's problem. Do you know what it is? Is his knee? Who fucking knows? Something. You know? Yeah, so he's not.

You get Ian's wins too. I think the knock on Ian's going to be He's just not exciting You know he just doesn't finish people Yeah But he deserves it He's only lost against Shovcott And that was you know

That was when Shovkat was I know People thought he walked on water And like oh shit That was actually a really good fight Really good fight I don't know man I don't know

I mean I think you do it now though Yeah You think that's next Yeah yeah if you're the UFC is kind of like pick your poison

who's gonna he at least has a style but again not exciting that's not gonna be an exciting fight I don't know what the fuck you do I don't know because it's go back to the rancashin

because either Ian Machado Gary I think Armand comes up to 70 no God no no no he has to fight at 55 Baba He's by Ilya 55 Yeah and well after that Because I think he beats superior He's too big

I mean the only guy who can The only guy who I'm saying who speaks that Language with that Islam language is Surukin I believe I mean I think right We'll see Let's see what happens with uh Ian Machado Gary but

Yeah I mean yeah sirkin Him going to 70s and a discussion baba He like he has to like he's been out for over a year Yeah And then he beat Charles O'Levara, and he just beat Dan Hooker. So he has, he has so much work to at 55. So hopefully he give him the fight at 55. But then the UFC has the Paramount card in January, and they're going to want a big name.

He just fought. So they probably do Topperia versus Patty Pimlet. That'll be fun. Yeah. I mean, they got a ton of options. 55 and 70. There's a ton of options. Not an American

Insight There's not a ton of Americans Oh, but wow Yep, yep Um And the UFC could do Camaro Ouse's like You know, it's these old heads

But I feel like the divisions Moved on man You're like Kamar Oussman who are like Let's see Kamar versus Islam Like And then Justin Gagee versus Topiri It's like man I don't I don't see the UFC doing that

well i want to see how toperia does at 55 with those sluggers guys like justin guys like patty pimlet patty's not a slugger right pat pat he's more of a graph but he's big yeah just what do you think of that he gets hit patty you can't really i would say the tech i'd love to see patty do it for the for the ufc it's all about the first fight on paramount so it's all about eyeballs that there's no bigger star in that division than patty So that's why they would do it. Who deserves it? Probably Armin.

Yeah. Yeah. But again, that's not going to get the eyeballs they need. No. All right, what else got you? Current events. How about this? Jeff's eye thing that happened.

Now, what is this? You want KFC Barso pretty much explains it if you want to just hear him. meeting Jeff Dye is getting hate online for starting a GoFundMe to raise money to help him move from Los Angeles to Austin. The GoFundMe description says that Jeff is making the bold move to move to move from California to Texas because of his passion for comedy and his desire to be in a community with like-minded people. He finished it off with a Jordan Peterson quote, which checks out. Now this entire saga began on the Joe Rogan experience. Jeff was a guest on the November 12th episode where he proclaimed that Gavin Newsom, quote, scares this shit out of me. him and joe had a conversation about los angeles specifically the la wildfires and said that they believe that gavin newsome is incompetent and that he doesn't want to be any part of it after that episode is when he put up the go fund me asking for money despite the fact that in the past he had made fun of people who use go fund me in this manner the direct quote from twitter back in 2018 was 90% of the go fund me's center just organized begging i'm happy to help in emergencies but a lot of you all are internet panhandling that's a tough look now after the back dash began jeff made another appearance on a podcast called misery loves company where he said that the whole thing was just a joke.

This is, you know, I was, I was maybe talking out of school saying that I was going to move to Texas because I was all excited about looking for homes. My fan base, not to brag, K.F, but they've got money. Like, a lot of, like, conservative, rich people like my comedy. So I thought it was going to be this kind of, like, we're all afraid of Big Scary Gavin Newsom, let's flee California. Like, I don't know, I guess what my haters will say is another failed joke by me, but I thought it was going to be funny. I get a little extra money in my pocket. I thought my rich fans would be like, yeah, Jeff, enjoy Texas, and give me some scratch.

Took mine down just because it seemed like an overwhelmingly negative response in everyone being like, this fucking guy has a cyber drug. And he already has a nice home. And I don't need the money. They were right. I need the money. I mean, Jeff, he's swung and missed. Yeah, he's not funny. Yeah, he's trying to be silly.

You know, Jeff. He just swung in, hey, hey, conservatives, get me out of here. It's more of that. Yeah, exactly. He should have said a thing you're starting to only fan, you know, fucking, what is it? Go fund me. No, go for me.

Think he was starting to go fund me. He's great out of. He's, okay, shit done. If you know, Jeff, he's. Jeff, he bought a house. So this is probably older. He, here he got a house here. I even said, like, obviously he doesn't need the money.

but he goes, if the money came in, of course, he's going to use it. He'll take it, but... Yeah, swinging in a miss. Jeff's great. Yeah, he's the best. That's funny, though. I would have told him, I'd have like, hey, hey, don't do a go-funner. Don't do a gold farm either.

Yeah. No. Yeah. Not in this economy, but, you know, that's funny. Yeah, I think that was a swing and miss. Hey, we all swing and miss, but if you know, Jeff, he's just a great dude. He's the best. In every way.

And generous and nice to everybody. literally and he's always fucking around yeah he needs always fucking around he's just he's a silly goose so he definitely wasn't but but to jeff's point i mean yeah jeff's doing good you know many crazy ass go fund me's like take off like take off yeah just like that racist woman the racist one which which one you always talk about the racist woman that she called the little kid the n-word and then she got tons of like 800 000 oh yeah there's go-fummies for you know but then there was that kid who got stabbed in a football game that that by that the white kid who got stabbed by the black kid and there was a huge go-fummy for that black kid who stabbed him here that's what i'm saying back and

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Yeah, we didn't talk about this. No, because it was, like, right, the time we talked about it was when it was, like, up in the air, but it was actually, like, hours later confirmed. I think I talked about on the shop show a little bit, yeah, because on Monday, it was made. I'm just going to let you talk about it. No, you tell me. Well, I mean, I don't understand. Look, listen, I don't think if you spar like Jake Paul does, if you get in the rain,

I've done enough sparring, getting hit that you just know you're talking about Olympic gold medalists. I don't think people understand how good Anthony Joshua is. They seem against Yusik or they see him against, you know, Ruiz, and they're like, oh, he lost. and they think somehow that he's, because he's nice, that he's not an absolute killer. That will change your life. A lot of people are like, ah. You're hanging out with the wrong people then.

I mean, 6-6-245. It's, let me just say this. It's a different ecosystem. Look, Jake's a thick kid, 227 is a lot. It's heavy. He's big, he's athletic. But this is different. You're not Husick.

You ain't Usen. Jesus. You're talking about a very different... Do you want me to go down? Please. With all your rambling here? Please. First of all, before I go in on...

The Cajonies on Jake Paul, you have got to... That's what I say. Whatever the fuck your criticism of the guy is, whatever... The Cajonies, the wavos on this fucking kid... I agree. To step in there with fucking Anthony Joshua is insane. He's all the money. with 14. And what he's doing is flipping boxing on its fucking head. And this is exactly what he's

there for. He's doing exactly what he said he was going to do. Kudos to him. Kudos to him. 100%. Now, what bothers me is when you and other people go, I mean, Jake 6-1-227. I mean, it's insane. The other guy, six, six, six, Jake could be 6-10. I know. I'm very aware of this. What you guys are missing the mark on is Anthony Joshua is a gold medal winner in the Olympics. High level professional. High level. No, hold on. Hold on.

World champion. So I don't like it when we're talking like, dude, you know, he's not a physical thing. It's a skill thing. So I'll say this. And I'm not saying anything's, I'm not saying it's a fake fight. It's rigged, especially because you got Eddie Hearn involved. and they're using 10-ounce gloves, which is a big deal.

And it's eight, three-minute rounds. 10-ounce gloves. It's terrified. Well, that's what you do in professional boxing, heavy-weight boxing, which those do nothing, by the way. They do nothing. What you guys need to understand is if this fight's not fixed, no one's taking a fall,

cut all that narrative out. But I will tell you this, if Anthony Joshua decides to take this as serious as he did the Francis and Gano fight, I don't need him take it as serious as an Usik fight. I don't take him as serious as fighting Klitschko. That's insane. It's literally impossible to take something like this, that serious.

If he takes it as serious as he did to Francis, which isn't that serious for him. But if he takes it as serious in his same approach, if we're in the real world and he takes it serious, this fight should not go longer than about 30 to 60 seconds. That's all. And I love Jake. Even if he wanted to move around, there's nothing he can do. I mean, so you'll know what kind of fight you're getting or you'll, you'll know if Josh was like, dude, this is such a joke, but I'm getting paid. If this fight goes two to three rounds and he doesn't just absolutely hurt him. Hurt him.

That's how, yeah, that's how this should go. So the lines got blurred a little bit for everybody when Francis fought Tyson Fury and then went, dude, MMA can do it. look dude he I thought he won it went to a decision look at this and so Anthony Josh went well hold on Tyson to take that fight serious at all Anthony Josh went no no no no I'll put box in my back come here come here this how it goes and I don't know if you saw the fight I did see the fight it's bad it's bad of course it's bad but that but there's nothing wrong with that that's how this goes how it well so when you're when you started wrestling three years ago four years ago, and then you get in with Mokachev, what happens is very predictable.

Okay. Okay. What do you mean? In other words. Like in the UFC? I'm saying this is a lot like if you have been wrestling for three or four years seriously, you took it seriously. Even more different.

Probably more different. Rest completely different. No, no. When you were talking about elite, I mean, you're talking about world class, came up through the amateurs, fucking golden medalist. You can see patterns. You can see. boxing, as a heavyweight, it's just different.

It's different. Footwork, everything. It's just, it's a nightmare. But I don't understand it. He was going to fight Giovante Davis and he just said, you know what? I think I'm going to fight. No, Javante had to pull out for all his shit. I know, but I'm saying, like, he literally went the opposite.

Like, you're fighting these tiny guys. He's just doing a shock factor. What's going to give me the most eyeballs possible? So, Javante Davis, yeah, big. Maybe he knocked him out. He's smaller. more skilled and then what's bigger than giovante anthony joshua anthony josh's going okay it's first time fighting in america too so you know for outside the boxing fans what this can sound

crazy most people don't know don't know don't know who anthony joshua is in america they really don't i know he'll sell out wembley stadium yeah over there he's huge here you know man they probably think he's a fucking d-end for the fucking cowboys or some shit look at him but all this is all predicated on how serious i'm going to approach joshua takes to it if he kind of does what thysen if he carries him makes it and just is like i don't need to train for this i just need you a few road words i don't look chubby and i'll get in there even with that he should still annihilate him but again if mentally he's not like all right i got a job to do i'm representing boxing a lot of american fans don't know me

this will be the most watched thing on fucking netflix ever for sports wise so i got to make a good you know showing hopefully he has that approach i assume he does because he did with with frances he was like no bitch the train stopped yeah and and tysofurt's a little more of a character hey wow what are you going to do let's move around a little bit when i'm i remember i remember When he caught Klitschko with that uppercut, Anthony Joshua. And he got caught. He got set down. Clitchco, yes.

And Klitschko is a big man. You know, you're just dealing with literally a different ecosystem, man. But that's what makes it, that's why it's a brilliant move by Jake. Because his fan base is like, oh my God, Jake, it's David versus Goliath, literally. It's this YouTuber Disney kid. look how far he's come he's actually going to do it what if he wins so there's that demo of his and then there's the rest of the world who go and they're they're show off on this but we got to get jake paul out of boxing i can't wait to see his head get knocked off by anthony joshua and that's

the majority right so those two worlds mix and you get the most watched boxing match on netflix ever more so than mike tyson at fucking 77 yeah in a fake sparring match this you know so if you're jake it's brilliant yeah it is okay so let's go go through it let's say jake gets knocked out one minute okay oh oh loser loser you got knocked out by anthony joshua fucking dude had 40 pounds so there's none of that but this is interesting when joshua was winning an olympic gold medal paul was wrestling in high school when joshua turned pro paul was making a living posting vines in 2019 joshua became a two-time unified heavyweight champion avenging a defeat to Andy Ruiz.

A month later, Paul made his pro debut against YouTuber Ali Esson Gibb. So it's a mismatch. Hot take, dude. This is what you can't do with this. This isn't Anthony Joshua versus Klitschko or Joseph Park. This is a completely different. So if you're going to compare their resumes.

Spectacle. Is it spectacle? It's not. spectacle it's more of just like this entertainment lane of boxing that's what i mean it's spectacle it's like entertainment it's not it's circus yeah yeah it's yeah it's yeah it's it's it's weird yeah it's weird right but again all this goes away if anthony joshua doesn't take it serious like if he doesn't do his job and this because dude if this becomes a thing like if jake this is what's going to happen if this does happen.

Let's say Jake Paul lands an overhand right. Now, I will say this. Anthony Joshua does get hit. He does have an issue with overhand right sometimes. Against other world-class heavyweights. So if you're going to tell me, dude, Jake Paul, he does have an issue with overhand right? He does.

He does. But that doesn't mean Joe Schmoe from the bar is going to land a looping overhand right on Anthony Joshua. what those guys that are landing are setting it up Andy Ruiz these other fucking guys fighting their whole life forever

so when you when you put poke holes in Anthony Josh's game Andy Ruiz was Andy Ruiz was an Olympian we know this yeah uh you know um

the the the the short Mexican cat yeah yeah um who beat him first time yeah yeah yeah and again that's Joshua not taking things serious that was short notice

it was a disaster he got knocked out Heron fucked up. Yeah, it was a bad idea. Oh, what was my point, though? You're saying overhand rights from other heavy, high class. Yeah, if this, if this, yeah, yeah, let me go, man, I was on rant. But the point is, is if this isn't a complete dominant performance, like, not even close.

By Joshua, Boston's going to have a problem because what's going to happen, is these younger generations, these other YouTubers go, this is how we do it. And it's going to set a weird standard where the lines are going to get blurred. They're already blurred. It's going to get more blurry. It's going to get more blurry, I think.

I actually think it's a bad thing. This is a competitive fight. Very bad thing. I don't think it can be a competitive fight. It can, though, Brian. It can. Why? Tyson Fury Francis.

Didn't take it serious. Yeah. Yeah, or Tyson Fury was carrying that fight. That's what I'm saying. Oh, you're saying? Yes, bud. You just made my point. If you're...

Yeah, he, that, if Anthony Joshua goes, I'll do it. You know, and I want to give people a show. I want this to last. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Okay. The lines get blurred. Yeah.

Because notice, notice, after Joshua did that to Francis, have you heard many UFC guys been like, I want to fuck. That kind of was like, oh, shit. But after Tyson and Francis the first time, everyone, their mom, oh, dude, I'm going to buy. I want to fight Canello. I want to fight Terrence Crawford. Remember that? Remember those days?

And then Francis gets in there with Joshua. And everyone goes, oh, fuck, that's how this goes. Yes. You fuck, yes. Yeah. That's called life, though. That's the universe. The universe works that way.

No, it only works that way if Joshua approaches this like a professional. Yeah. I'm going to actually fight this. Yes, which all signs point that he is, but I think we're going down a weird road if he doesn't. And he's doing boxing and these young kids and other fighters that want to jump into these big fucking entertainment fights a disservice, a huge disservice.

Because people are like, man, Jake Paul's only trained for five years. And he fucking hung with Anthony Joshua, man. I've only had two. I'm going to call out Terrence Crawford. And because there's a market for this, they might fucking get it. Yeah. This podcast, take a little break. This podcast brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save some cash?

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What is going on here? All the Thrills. All for free. Pluto TV. Stream now. Hey, never. Also, with the, Joshua was taking it seriously. He did say, for what it's worth,

he did say at the press conference. He's taking it very seriously. Like, this is a big deal to him. Of course. Yeah. Because if he goes, at whatever, I'll show up and beat this kid, then you're fucked.

And he's also training with Alexander Ussk's team. Oh, boy. Prior to his fight with Jake. That makes sense. Shorter dude. Yeah. Here we go. Not necessarily with music, but his team, yeah.

Ben Davidson, Lee Wiley. Well, Ben be in your corner on the 19th of December. So, no, I won't be trained by Ben Davidson. I said that London's a bit distracted for me. So I was invited to train with Team Usik. So I've been in Spain. We've been doing some good training out in Spain. And I think he's one of the best in the world.

Not I think he is one of the best in the world. No, he's the best. to him, it's also down to his team that's around him. So I linked up with him. I'm sure he's the best. Getting an insight to how someone who's achieved so much has been phenomenal, man. It's been a great experience and it's very challenging. Wow, well, I did not know that. So who will be your head trainer on the night? Eagle. Okay. And how long have you been with them? A couple months now? A couple months? Yeah. In the darkness, in secret. No, it's not a secret. Are you sparring with Usick? No, I don't spar with Usik's um, he's training

somewhere else at the minute but he's been in camp but he's in and out of camp okay so right now he's training somewhere else are you still joshua stayed humble can't beat him you join him can't beat him you right yeah he's he's one of the best sir he beat you twice yeah he's astonishing excuse me sir he beat twice he's astonished he's the best yeah um yeah i mean yeah i don't know what else to say about uh oh this is just a silly one when someone asked him about uh i'll just for you. Tyson Fury thinks I'm going to win. Oscar De La Jolla thinks I'm going to win and then my team. So that's like seven people. Did he say that? Yeah. Yeah.

That's not really a good endorsement since he's dumb as fuck. My dad thinks. That's fucking great. It's true too. But the thing is, is I know from a little birdie that is, that is, is, I know from a little birdie that If Joshua and Jake didn't work out, their other plan B was Jake versus Nate in MMA in PFL. That would be very interesting. So he's already setting the groundwork for that. Man, smart.

Just setting the groundwork. That's, uh, he, Jake's quick with you. Well, that's not going to endorsement because he's dumb as fuck. Dude, Nate catching strays, man. Man. Jake Paul. you got to mark but he's got a sense of humor he goes my dad thinks i'm going to win you know he goes there we asked i think this question was like nobody's speaking to win he goes no not true my dad

thinks i'm going to win i love him i love it dude as far as entertain he knows you don't think jake paul knows he trains for real so he's very aware of where he is in the food chain he's very aware of you know what his skill set is you you're tested your battle tested when you're jake paul he actually gets in there and hits and fights so this is by his balls he's got the biggest balls in the yeah it's hard to talk to you i'll say this i know jane i'm telling you i'm telling you he 100 but thinks 100% thinks he's going to win he's got a chance i bet he definitely thinks he's got a chance no so he doesn't think he has a chance he thinks he's going to win i'm telling

you this he actually thinks he's going to win god bless he's like why not why the fuck not god bless him the guy has issues around ronda rossi was that way Ronda Rousey believes that in any given day, she can be. Completely different, bro. No, I'm saying, but in any given day, she believes she can beat anybody including you in a fight, given, we had that conversation with her. Like, she's like, given any situation. This is the difference, Brian.

Rhonda is an Olympian and multiple time world champion. Yeah, he's saying mindset. No, no, but the credentials are there. You know, when you come from Disney and you think you can beat Anthony Joshua, that's, crazy why do you say he comes from disney that's where he comes from he was a disney kid Jake was yeah yeah I didn't know that yeah fuck yeah he's a Disney star

he's been he's been at this for a long time entertainment entertainment for a long time yeah but he's also proven to be a pretty damn good fire considering like he'd be freaking knocked out what he's accomplished is yeah I'm like at this point before we would laugh before we would laugh at him but now we can't laugh at him he's like I don't laugh at anybody who's got the balls that

he does. I don't laugh about that. I think I've never, I've only been supportive. This is insanity. Huge balls. But guess what? I'm going to be watching. No matter what's going on, that's what he wants. I'm watching. That's what he wants. I mean, genius. And speaking of time, he's going to be on the undercard with Anderson Silva. Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm not like, I don't, you know, Here's my thing. I love both these dudes. Uh, Woodley's my boy.

Get your bag, Bubba. Exactly. Dude, fuck yeah. I hope you guys are making all the money. Hope everybody, it's going to be the most watch boxing fight on Netflix.

Fuck yeah. Hope you guys make you millions. Get your bag. Am I going to be glued to the TV? No. You know? I'm not going to like, oh, fuck,

you know. But get your fucking money, boys. I love it. Thank God. Okay. This is a pretty crazy one. This is Dan,

white on andrew shultz's show talking about francis and gano have you seen this i'm guessing you've seen i've not seen this i'll just play this clip for you real quick he's not a good guy he plays the whole do i don't understand the language and he and people's all language barrier there's no fucking language barrier he's going in to fight steep in boston well after the press conference he comes over to me and he grabs me and he says me tell you what's going to happen because english is fucking great when this fight's They're going to book me a private plane to Paris. I laughed.

So, yeah, he goes, I'm not joking. Okay. Steve Miochitz beats the shit out of him. That ended that whole conversation. Going to fucking cut him that day. Performance Institute. Everything's free and do all this stuff. This guy was fucking living there.

He had just fought. Comes up to my office and he was pissed off that he didn't get a $50,000 bonus arguing with me. The conversation's over. I'm starting to leave. And he grabs me by my shirt and, like, pushes me back in my office. And I said, dude, get your fucking hands off me. Those were the words that came out of you when Francis and God grabbed you by the shirt? Yeah.

It would have been like, I hated this shirt. He's not a good guy. I could see in this guy's face and in his eyes and in the way he's acting, who this guy really fucking is. Then my guy, Hunter, they were talking about something. And when Hunter started to walk away, Francis grabbed him by the fucking back of his collar and fucking pulled him back. He said, we're not done talking yet. If you look now, now he's over, and he's done a deal with PFL and Saudi Arabia. And now he's asking to fight, you know, me and John Jones need to fight and fucking, you know,

I'm sure they wish they never fucking signed him. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I don't have to hear one word from any of those guys over there to know because I know. I've dealt with him. I know who he really is. Yeah. Yeah.

I could see. I would have never expected that, but I don't know. Well, it's not a smart move in a lot of. ways, but, you know. Is any of this surprising? Yeah, to me, it is. Really? Yeah. That he's a, like, he's crazy bully.

That he would grab Dana White by the shirt. Yeah, that sounds insane. Happens more than you realize. There's, there's a lot of issues. You're dealing with fighters, man. There's, these stories, I mean, Dana, and Francis isn't the first. He's not the first.

Now, do I think Dana is exaggerating a little bit? Probably, do you put hands on him? Yeah. yeah and there's other narratives with and i don't i think the definition of bullying is his change these days but you can talk to some ufc employees that that are that around the office the center that said francis you know would do some of the shit and this is one of a man evans who's a staffer he's like a i think he's emma media as well but he's yeah but in aunt evans very credible that stuff doesn't work in general

general like you know a hollywood will teach you that real quick um mickey rourke was was doing that to a lot of the brass in hollywood and uh then got a swastick a tattoo why who did mickey rourke yeah i think how that worked out yeah no i but i think with fighting it's like you're literally dealing with the toughest guys on the planet and the way they express themselves is through physical violence. So it's actor. It's just a different fucking lane.

But no, but here, not when you're dealing with business, right? You're still dealing with business. Yeah, but as long as you're winning, they're,

they're going to put up with a lot of shit. Like Francis, as long as you're winning, and you're a big draw. Being away with a lot. So, as long as your money. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, but also, Dana White saying he's a bad guy. Like, I don't know if he's the best indicator deciding who's a bad person, who's not, you know. So that makes it a little weird because also, again, Dana's a fight promoter. He lives in a world of violence dealing with the most violent people inside that octagon.

Like remember when Iro Hwani had an issue and Dana's and his goons physically assaulted Ariel? Do we remember this? So this is the fight world man. this stuff has been going on for a long time since fighting has been around you know it's just you're dealing with the toughest amount on the planet the way they express themselves when they're frustrated is yeah don king apparently it held guns to people's heads and stuff like that so it's a rough it's a rough world but again dana calling a spade a spade you know he's a bad guy okay he's a bad guy because he was frustrated put his hands on you well when a journalist who's not a fighter did something

you didn't like you and your goons pinned him against the wall physically pinned the dude against the wall so he's not the best indicator saying who's a bad guy who's not does that happen i don't remember like actually physically that happened jen okay i can imagine intimidating him but i don't know so i don't know does it make france a bad guy maybe not though this that's what aunt said saying as well something like because he's so huge and intimidating when he's like walking around looking at you like he's telling i guess he didn't like something about a poster the art he wanted the artist to change it like you're not supposed to be doing that you can use some diplomacy lessons yeah but i can't the reason why i can't imagine with dana's because dana just like

he said he has he's a powerful person like you threatened dana he could easily get you with other people and I'm like I don't see what do you mean get you his go goons quote unquote his goons aren't going to do anything to francis and gana his goons would all get knocked the fuck out no there there are plenty of those there's ways to yeah you go you go to like you have seen those giant simones six of those guys yeah there's plenty i guess if six simones want to held francis down but as far as them like physically hurting him you know and dana's i can do that to his product you know No, my thing is, why would Francis do, like, to grab someone by his shirt? Dude, that's like...

That's how he communicates. Oh, no. You know, it's like, you're dealing with fucking cage. You're dealing with somebody's not that smart, in my opinion. Probably kind of dumb. I mean, it just doesn't make sense. I don't know. It's fair to call him dumb, but maybe not educate the same way we are.

He's also from Africa. He also came from a fucking mining diamond mine and had to escape the fucking cross the desert. Yeah, dude. His life is different than our perspective. Very different. for him to get what he wants that's what he has to do i don't know if he's dumb i wouldn't call him dumb no he just hasn't been schooled in diplomacy he hasn't been taught that in this country none of that shit's going to work so you know but not grabbing dan away by that but to your point

it it didn't work out for him did it no because as soon as he lost didn't wait get the fuck out of here that's right that's right and you get in reputation for being that guy being difficult to work with being blah blah blah blah and then you know people like it's not worth the trouble But now, if you are still somebody who's a draw, different. But if Anthony Joshwood flatlines you in a couple seconds and stuff, it's going to get. But just to defend the fighters here, and listen, I have no issues with them at the UFC brass. There's no bigger bullies than the UFC brass. There are no bigger bullies.

They're not going to physically touch you the way they touch. The way Joe Silva talked to fighters, the way Dana talks to fighters, you want to talk about mental bullying? There's nobody worse in sports. But I'm not saying it's not the right thing to do. It's just the nature of the fucking beast that he signed up for. It's the fight game. But as far as bullying goes, like bullying tactics to fighters, buddy, this is nothing. This is nothing.

The way they disrespect fighters to their face through text, through emails, through their managers. I can't believe Dan has been knocked the fuck out way earlier than this. Way earlier. This is why this stuff happens. You have disgruntled fighters who get super disrespected for years that have Hall of Fame careers. For years, they get fucking, they get messed with by their bosses, by sponsors. Not physical bullying, but mental, they fuck with you, man, you know?

Because there's one game in town. Exactly. so you can get cut yeah you have you have to put up with it yep or you have two weeks to make a certain weight you know but this is this is the underbelly of the fight game oh give me let's get into something else here do you want that trump well he said hey let me just check one thing sure okay let's see this all right this is trump

Trump talking to a reporter calling her Piggy. It's hard to hear, though. that he spent time with Jeffrey F. said, and I had a very bad relationship for many years. But he also saw Skype because I was the person. So he dictated a couple of memos to himself. He got to find out what did he know with respect to Bill Click, respect to the head of Harvard, with respect to all of those people, that he never called JP Morgan's.

Yes, sir. Is there something incriminating in the five minutes? Yes, sir. Quiet. Quiet. Quiet. did he say piggy yeah he said quiet quiet piggy is she like short and chubby i didn't see what she looked like as a president you just can't do

she must be kind of like he said piggy it might have sounded like it no no no might have been peggy yeah do we know the reporter's name that's yeah because did he say get quiet peggy it definitely said like sound like piggy though yeah but i don't think it was i don't think he would do that. Female Bloomberg reporter as Piggy. What's her name, though? Could her name be confused? Yeah, they always do this.

Catherine Lucy, Bloomberg's White House correspondent. He has a name close to Peggy. It's Catherine. Yeah, he called her Piggy. It's not that crazy to think you'd call her Piggy. Hold on a second. it's a little alarming you get so defensive when people bring it up yeah it is uh lucy started

asking why trump was behaving the way he was yeah we saw the interview we know why he called her piggy you know so there's katherine lucy from boomer yeah it's weird how defensive he gets over it what does he got chin this is from uh one of our viewers his name is james from the patron or just patron yeah patron supporter he goes uh just moved in his July to his house and he mentioned that he had there was he took a picture of him and his friend and then they saw an image yeah so I asked him to show me the image and then he said he also he tried to take pictures multiple times afterwards to see if it shows up again it never does and so let's read what he put though he put so we moved uh in July we did some research and the previous owner died in the

house but was an old guy all right that makes it easier that's a good keep point the picture was taken at 11 o'clock at night and all the kids were asleep but it looks like a child and the reflection. I tried to recreate this picture but the figure doesn't ever show up. Let me see.

So there's a picture. You see the child? Oh. No fucking way. And there's a shadow too. Mm-hmm. Well, that's super freaky. Is he sure his kid

didn't come out in his jammies or something? He said they're all sleeping. And that's why he's wearing a little weird hat, too. But he said an old guy died. It's wild. Yeah. So he made sure to say it was an old guy so he doesn't understand why it's a little kid

in the picture. Maybe the other shit went down there. That is so creepy. Got send that shit to Zach Baggins, dude. And then he tried taking the picture. Yeah, to see if there's some sort of weird thing. Maybe there's an artifact or a little doll somewhere in the house.

I had the most insane dream. What happened? Like the most insane nightmare have you had this like where it's so vivid it's real where all the time i do dude i'm sleeping and i'm like oh there's somebody with um they had like a grid on me they had these they were putting they just put this thing on but the green grid it was like these these claws on me they would put put me in a coffin sort of like but it was like all these it was like a wire coffin And I was just like, and it was so real. And I was like, this is a ghost doing some shit to me.

And I came here where I was. I wasn't at home. But it was nuts. In the hotel. I was in an Airbnb. But I'm talking about the most crazy shit. Don't they say when you're dreaming? That's when you go to like another dimension.

Dude, this was as as creepy and as I'd never thought. Here's what's weird though. Do you always remember your dreams? because I don't. I'd say one out of fuck, dude, 60, 30 nights of sleep. I have a dream I remember. Right. The last one I remember was like two or three nights ago.

It's very rare when it does happen. And mine, I was like in the Middle East and I was captured by like ISIS, like extremists. And I had to get out and I was watching them just murder fucking people and I was next. It was so intense. Yeah, it's intense shit, man. It's almost like you've lived it before or something, you know, hopefully. Which maybe we have. Oh, that would be more scarier.

Yeah, I was caught by like Islamic terrorists and they're murdered, like horrible murders. Yeah. And they're all just, we're all just watch them take people and I was like counting. I'm like, holy fuck, I'm fourth in line. Yep. That sucks. But the older I get, the more I start confusing, did this really happen or was it a dream? When I was younger, I could totally tell all that.

That was his dream. In Algeria, there was, I think that's where it was during the Civil War in the, like, early 2000s or whatever maybe the middle 2000s um there was a dwarf who was oh murder yeah cutting throats yeah terrible they'd line people up and just cut the whole

village this sadistic dwarf like there's there's real life craziness man oh yeah there's darkness out there all right this is from a week or so back but I haven't shown you guys yet but this is a a NASCAR in Mexico

and the emergency car hit the actual car that they're trying to help have you seen? No. Everyone's fine, by the way. Okay, well, that's That's not good.

A guy came in hot. We just fucked it up even more. Spaz of the year, bro. Spaz of the year. He's like, go get help. okay boosh you guys probably fired

spaz of the year god you just look at it when you go like this it fucking like edelman was talking about how when he would drop a ball brady would be like julia catch the fucking ball

yeah he's never returned a punt hey break yeah all right check out this video guys the boy returned a wallet only to be sued for three thousand by its owner. 17-year-old Adrian found a handbag in a supermarket parking lot containing $10,000 in cash.

He drove more than 10 kilometers to personally hand the wallet back to its owner. He thought he would be praised for his honesty, but instead, the owner called the police. She claimed that $3,000 was missing from the bag and demanded that Adrian repay the lost money. Adrian felt deeply wronged. He hadn't taken anything, but now he had no way to prove it. The police, too, couldn't determine who was lying. The case has since entered civil litigation. Once the story went public, it ignited fierce debate online.

Some said, this is what happens when kindness gets punished. Others argued he shouldn't have returned it without evidence. A judge later commented that no matter how good your intentions are, you should always keep a record of your actions. Oh, fuck off. Quietly, I just wanted to do the right thing. God, get this kid a go-fund me. Get that kid to go for me for that kid. No, next time just keep the 10 Gs, Bubba.

Keep the 10 G. And check out this video. Son only tried to rob you and you took his life. That was excessive force, better. You have to pay for what you did. Shut up. Your son played adult games and now he's winning adult prizes. An 87-year-old man shot three masked intruders who broke into his home,

but was later sued by the robber's parents for $1 million. The incident happened around 4 a.m. in Rockdale County, Georgia. The three masked teenagers planned to rob the home of Paul Schmidt, an elderly man who lived alone. While they were rummaging through the living room, the old man discovered them. The teens attacked him, punching and kicking him, and Paul was forced to fight back. He pulled the trigger, hitting one of them in the stomach. The other two panicked, dropped their weapons, and ran away. Neighbors who heard the gunshots called 911. When police and paramedics arrived, the injured suspect had already started. stopped breathing. The two who fled were caught soon after. Police later confirmed the three

were carrying BB guns. The teenager's parents accused Paul of using excessive force and filed a $1 million lawsuit against him. They were holding fake guns. They never hurt you. And yet you killed him. All three of them attacked my client. If they'd had real guns, my client wouldn't be standing here today. He was so young, just a kid. His life had barely started. And you ended Shut up. You know what? Your son played adult games, and now he's winning adult prizes. Paul's attorney argued, even if the robber used a fake gun, my client had no way of knowing that.

Therefore, it should be considered armed robbery. This should still be considered armed robbery under Georgia's self-defense laws and the stand-your-ground statute. The homeowner's actions were deemed completely lawful and not an excessive use of force. The judge ultimately ruled, I hereby declare Mr. Schmidt not guilty. You bear no criminal or financial liability. Then the judge turned to the robber's mother and said, I hereby order you to pay Mr. Schmidt $50,000 in medical expenses

and issue a public apology to him. Do you think the judge's ruling was fair? Share your thoughts on the comments. I can't believe this is even a thing. I do. I think a mother's loss of her child is beyond what you can imagine. So that was her punishment. and she's just being a mom and just is not rational.

But, and that's a tragedy because her son was stupid, played adult games and won adult prizes. Here's the thing, though, boys. Here's the thing before you go on further. When I saw these stories, I'm like, why are they popping up so much in my feed, right? And I saw this, and I was like, I'm, you know, I'm always skeptical. It's fake. They're all fake.

And they're pumping the shit out of nowhere. Because I thought a judge wouldn't say that. Shut up. Yeah. But I mean, why are they doing it now? they're trying to because they do this all the time where they like they create these these things you're like wait a minute but they're getting so good because i was getting all pissed off i'm like this motherfucker but yeah yeah they're fake fake story i've been i've been well they're doing it because

getting views yeah yeah yeah but also there must be another agenda too like oh yeah they're paying a narrative yeah yeah yeah they want outrage yep it's rage bait there's another one but yeah you guys get the point. If they're fake, I don't want to assume. Oh my God. This is the crazy one. That singer David, that young, like really popular singer, remember some body was found in his trunk? Yeah. They

determined that the body was there for like a long time, like months, and it was frozen, partially frozen when they found it. And because of that, they can't determine exactly the cause of death. Jesus. Oh yeah, it was cut out. Well, that's probably somebody who knows what they were doing. Unless it was a cadaver.

I thought freezing it would preserve it. more but I guess no body of teen though it's so fucked up yeah so it says cops may never determine the cause of death yeah they have no leads or nothing well just that that guy David and one other person like someone in his entourage of it I guess that those are the two main suspects obviously they have to be a part of it you know it's in his trunk yeah it was their friend Jesus Christ yeah whoever did it is some they know the shit crazy people yeah I think we're good for today, yeah. It was good, kids.

Oh, that's another good news. International Olympic Committee is banning transgender. Oh, really? Yeah. They don't want men competing against women? Yeah, biological men that are transgender. They're not going to be able to compete in women sports. You mean doing just normal shit?

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