The Fighter & The Kid - Tim Kennedy | TFATK Ep. 1096

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

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We have a much more athletic, more handsome, stronger, bigger, younger co-host today. Brian Cowan's playing grab-ass with his family on a cruise in Barcelona. No, no, don't say it like that. He's just a rich dude. But it's Barcelona because that's how I'd say it. Yeah. And this is how I introduce you to my kids at Ways and Wales. It's the closest thing you can get to Captain America.

It's Tim Kennedy, everybody. Hello. What's up, big dog? Dude, awesome seeing you. I can't believe you're in Texas. I can't either. I'm like smiling ear to ear that like in one week I've got to see you twice. I know dude and I don't bother you. I know you're like you have all your you have to fix that. I know I have some block with it. No get over it. Yeah you're right. We're neighbors now. You're a fellow Texan. I know. I'll have a pair of boots, a hat, and a gun for you. I'm literally in the, in the process of, I'm not joking. I could pull my phone up and show the text as

I'm designing a custom pistol for you right now. I love it, brother. Yeah. I was, I was telling you like, I was a little heartbroken leaving LA. You know, I don't know if you felt that when you first moved out here, I was a little heartbroken, just the familiarity, the routine, the baseball dads. And then as I tell you off air, last week T got invited to practice with one of the top teams out here. And it was the first time I was like, Oh, I'm going to be okay, man. It's going to work out. It changes hard. And, you know, when you have a routine and you have, I think men, humans, so desperately need community. And then you're just pulling yourself, you're ripping yourself out of familiarity. You're from that community and that from that tribe.

And it's, it's hard to like, is who am I now? What is my identity? And starting over and just like, all right, what do I do? And you're trying to figure it out and eventually you get there. But that's why I think you transition so good out of the UFC because you have community.

You have a community. You have a community. You have a community. You have a community. You have a community. And just like, all right, what do I do? And you're trying to figure it out and eventually you get there. But that's why I think you transition so good out of the UFC because you have community. Like you're one of the guys that you have so much going on, but you have these close communities. So when you left the UFC, I was like, yeah, that's not, that's not all that Kennedy. I'm good, man. I have this other stuff.

Yeah. I mean, a lot of guys, they're, they're tied to that community. So when they leave, they're kind of in no man's stuff. Yeah. I mean, a lot of guys, they're, they're tied to that community. So when they leave, they're kind of in no man's land. Yeah. But I think you have that, you've, you've had multiple careers. Yeah. You know, you had multiple transitions, um, occupationally, uh, but it's, it's, it's a

different thing when it's the whole family. Big time. It's, you know, cause we as men, of course, are going to bear the burden of responsibility of, okay, I have to provide these things for them. And I love that that like realization for you are like, oh, he's going to be just fine. Yeah. And they're flourishing. The boys are, I mean, they're flourishing, man. And I- It's going to take a little time for the wife, you know? Yeah, she's doing well too, because her mom's here, but I think more, I was more concerned about the kids, like me and my wife will be fine.

I'll figure it. I know I'll figure it out. I've made big changes before and it always works out for the better. Whenever I'm scared to do something, it always works out for the kids. I'm like, nine and five. I'm like, what are they going to do?

Their friends? Well, dude, like this morning I dropped them off at this elite baseball camp and there's all these kids, you don't know anybody. He's like, see you dad. Damn, look at this little dude go. Look at him go, man. I love it.

It's gonna be better for him in the long run. For sure. It's just better. The resources, I've never seen, we're high level athletes, and we've seen a lot of success and a lot of different things, but the amount of available assets, resources, coaching, sincerity, people, the coaching, especially. This is my new metric of measurement for everything.

Everywhere that I go is the kids coaches here in Texas. Insane. They're just the greatest people. I don't, I don't. And then I just blow away. Me too. Yeah. Like the, when I took tea and again, he's trying to find his fit.

He's trying to find his fit. He's trying to find the team and we met with this team, super high level team. I had no idea what we're getting into. And the coach is like former university of Texas baseball coach, the assistant coach played 10 years in the MLB. And I'm just like, this is for the nine you. Yeah. He's like, yeah.

Yeah. And it's like that at every level here and there and you know, T's super nervous. You know, he's nine, it's a new team, new kids, and they're really good. So he's super nervous. They just took him to the side. They're like encouraged him the whole time. And then, you know, T sometimes just like any night when he strikes out or makes an error, he'll

get, you know, have an attitude a little bit, which I, you know, I'm always like, dude, it's here, it's here. I don't care how athletic you are for you to get to the next level. It's all about here. Like there's a ton of athletic kids, but what are you going to do here? So that's all I's here. I don't care how athletic you are. For you to get to the next level, it's all about here. Like there's a ton of athletic kids,

but what are you going to do here? So that's all I work with them on. So when he gets an add to that triggering for me, but the coaches, man, like where we came from, they really know how to deal with it. They're like, I'll figure it out. Now they, the thing is like, they're super sweet till they're not.

Texas, he's like, what are you doing? What is that? And T's like, what? I can't do this. They're like, no, look at like, what are you doing? What is that? And T's like, what? I can't do this. They're like, no, look at the other kids. And it's another thing that you're gonna experience Lickety Split is you as the parent, it is not our job to coach.

It is our job to support. And they are going to, if you don't figure it out, like super fast, those coaches will be like, hey, so you have one job on the sideline. You are to support your child. You know, 90% of kids quit their sports in the car with their parents leaving practice. You have one job. I had one parent say this. Um, it was, it was actually a mom where her husband was so overwhelming on the kids and the kids, it's such a good player. This is in LA and the mom, cause the kid loved video games and she goes, you, so you know how your son plays video games

all the time? Dad's like, right. He's like, if you want him to quit playing video games so much, just treat him the same way you do in baseball. So when he's playing, go, no, no, not X. Oh, oh, no, no, don't go left, go right. Just critique every move he makes in those video games. He'll stop in about three to four days. Cause it's purgatory. It's the exact same thing in baseball. Like you've taken the joy out of it. It's no longer a game. It's no longer fun. So criticizes PlayStation abilities.

I'll stop playing if you want them to stop. And it's just, they'll let him have his own agency and his own space for him to flourish on the field and then just watch that kid blossom. Yeah, man, nothing better. It's going to be so fun. And I'm so pumped you're here. Oh dude, brother, I'm so pumped. Um, w w w it could be an off the air conversation,

but with your son, with his lacrosse, like he's such an outlier and just his mentality, like when it's hot and how he's like, let's go, you know, like let's let's see these other kids melt. Do you think he got that from you? Cause obviously mentally you're such a maniac, right? In a good way. Like you're so mentally strong

and you look at all the shit you're doing. Did you think you passed that down to your son or do you think he was born with that? No, definitely. I don't think grit. I love this. I love my kids so much. Nothing better to talk about.

If you're not a parent, this shows bright enough for you. They're like, I'm single in my freaking bed. Like the heart and the head, those, those, how those things connect that build grit. And the only way that that toughness comes is by doing tough and difficult things. And, you know, we're not, we're not poor. We could provide all of the comfort and laissez-faire lifestyle that would then breed the weakest,

most useless flesh of offspring ever. So I have to be disciplined in me holding myself accountable to make sure that I create opportunity for him to go and do hard things, let him struggle. When you say hard things, like, what are you doing? Cause he's how old he's 10. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine.

Fine. Dude, it is a fine line. Child abuse and just give them some grit. Yeah. You know? Yeah. The, our toughness and grit came from what would absolutely be abuse in 2025. Correct.

You know, there's no doubt that, and I love my parents. Yeah, me too. I had a perfect, perfect father for what happened in the seventies and the eighties when I grew up. That was a different world. It's a different era. So creating difficult opportunities, like when I took him hunting in Southwest Texas, we're on foot in freezing cold temperatures at night, 100 degree temperatures in the day,

everything that we're eating and drinking is on our back. He's uncomfortable. Everything, every moment was uncomfortable and he's flourishing. He was there for it. That's great. You know, tomorrow morning, what's he going to do with me? Yeah. Yeah. You guys are going to box. We're going to go box. You know, am I going to hit him? Absolutely not. You know, but am I going to be surrounded with Shane Thompson, Tyson Mendez, Sean Apperson, David Fries, a whole bunch of professional athletes, black belts, professional fighters.

The Tackett brothers are going to be there. Satoshi Ishii is going to be there. I love him. I stay with him all the time, man. Yeah.. I love him. He's the best. I just had tacos with him 19 minutes ago and got coffee with him. Really? Yeah. He's the best. Dude, I train with him for years. He's a monster. He's a little busted up right now. But like that's who, you know, I was like, hey, what is your son doing tomorrow? Come and box with box with us. That's who's just going to be surrounding him. I don't have to say anything to him, but I'm gonna have Satoshi Ishii, you know, like whispering

to a 10 year old, like you should hit that harder. Yeah. And Satoshi Ishii voice, you know, gold medal, medalist in the long run. You should probably listen to everything he does. He does at the highest level. And then Shane, you know, like just the sweetest, I would trust Shane Steiner with everything and anything in my life to include my son. And everything that the Steiner's touch

because of hard work and grit turns to gold. A lot of people say a lot of negative things about that family, like they get it so good, they've had it so easy. Dude, if you could only see how hard those people work, you know, how they treated you when you showed up to their steakhouse, insane. That's just who they are. So then I'm going to have Shane sitting there with Rolo, you know, your son, Tyler's son, and be like, that's, that's, that's the hardest jab you got in there.

So it just creates hardship in a pretty controlled and intentional way. Yeah. Cause I think my biggest, you know, baseball could, because it's not physical. I'm like, man, he needs some adversity. Yeah. It granted striking out or walking guys or having a bad game. Like that's some adversity mentally. I'm saying physical adversity is what he needs.

Yeah. Or we'll, we'll, we'll, yeah, you're the guy for the job. Don't waterboard them, but you know, yeah, but we, we manufacture and I hate that it, but I'm okay with it. We're going to curate and editorialize opportunities that are safe where they can, you know, like find that strength and that agency and that grit. Um, but it's in a safe environment and they're

surrounded by, and I don't know how it is for you, my kids don't listen to me. No, I'm not, which is wild. And so I have to check myself sometimes. Like on the coaching side. On the coaching side. No, no, no, I'm the idiot, you know? It's like, but the list of a guy who played

one year of fricking literally, I'm like, oh, and finally, what do I know? I went, what, and I find that what I know. I went professional in two different sports. What I know this thing. I played high school baseball. What do you know? What do I know? And even I was the first base coach and I'm like, right, you just wait, wait.

And he's like, he turned back and I was like, got it. I'm like, Oh wow. All right. But every other kid listens to hangs on every word I say, but you won't listen. Yeah. But now you can like hand select all these world-class people to be around him. Yeah. Yeah. So your kids won't even listen to you. No, no. I have two grown, beautiful daughters and like we have conversations like we're friends,

but zero chance. That's like, maybe try this and they would just not do it because I said so. Yeah. It's like, hey, you know, some people would pay me for advice, but you have it for free 24 seven. Oh, I mean, how old were you? I get it. It's genetic from just before puberty until maybe 25, 30, your parents cannot pour into you because you have to mentally separate from them. Yeah. And so I understand that it's,

it's hardwired in our DNA for us to be like, yeah, and our kids just got there. Especially when it comes to sports. We're like lifting, I'm like, really? Really? Almost a 20 year professional athlete. Yeah, man. They don't care.

I don't know nothing. It's crazy, dude. It's fine though. It's fine. It's great, it's fine. Everything's fine. It'll work out. Let's take a little break from chatting

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Simply Safe system with professional monitoring and your first month free at simply safe.com slash fighter. That's simply safe.com slash fighter. There's no safe like simply safe. Let's get back to the program. So you, you just came back from DC army's birthday, army's birthday. That's a big deal, right?

I don't know 150 years. That's wild. Yeah. And you go out there that I'm always so fascinated by your life because it, to me, it's such. Yeah. And you go out there that I'm always so fascinated by your life because it to me it's such a mystery. So like when you get involved with this stuff, does someone reach out from the White House? Like how's that work from the military? And like we need Tim Kennedy out there. Yeah. So I mean, this is a great example and a lot of people kind of stick their nose

um, trying to understand how all of these things work, how all these things work. And really, just to oversimplify it, the government is just like any organization, they're communicating silos, they're cross departments, cross agencies, failing to coordinate. So like those problems exist, and then there are people that help

Try to get everybody in the same room to communicate up in and out. So this is a perfect example The White House has flag day president Trump's birthday and president Trump wanted a military parade Break it's the army's 250th birthday. They also want to have a parade and celebrate this thing. So let's do those things together. It's sense. Yeah, it makes sense. But you'd think that the white house and the department of defense, specifically the army

would like be communicating really effectively. Yeah, no. No. Even at that level. Even at that level. No, no. The Pentagon talking to the White House, besides like, should we drop this bomb

on top of these radicals out in the desert? Outside of that? No. Outside of that, no. Look at how big a fish to fry. Yeah. So it's like a parade party, like we're busy over here, man.

Someone else figured it out. Fox News, Newsmax, NBC, everybody wants to be there, but who's going to do the coordination? Then who's going to coordinate with DC, to allow and permits and processing who's going to make, make the run a show. Who's going to be like getting the passes secret surface is going to have a say in this as secret service going to be giving four star generals the same access as white house personnel. But no, so like it's just a cluster and also safety,. A great place to do some damage. And you know, everybody's going to want to,

like the no Kings protest. Don't get me started. Yeah. It's a mess. So on the military side, the military is like, hey, you're, you know, the most famous military person on the internet. We would love you to support the army birthday. You're person on the internet. We would love you to support the army birthday.

You're also in the army. We want you to be in uniform supporting this event. Simultaneously, the White House is like, hey, you work with all of the media, Fox News and Newsmax, can you help us run some of these things? You're gonna be out there. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I just have all the time to do all of these things. You're going to be out there.

Yeah. Don't have all the time to do all of these things. Just those two. Like I could go on for and list 50 different asks of, can you help with this? Which is a good problem to have. It's a great problem. Yeah. Um, and then it meets like the requirement of, am I still contributing in a meaningful, meaningful way?

Absolutely. Yeah. And then are you flying out there on your own time? So if I'm in uniform and I'm on orders, the army will pay me in uniform to go and do this thing. And if I'm going to be going for the army, nobody else can be paying for anything because then there'd be an integrity issue there, right?

Like if I'm getting paid to go speak for Fox News or I'm going to go do a public speaking engagement and the client is paying me to attend, but then I'm also on military, right? Super unethical. So do you have a manager or agent who handles that or you're just dealing with this all yourself? All the above.

And then I'm super transparent with all the, all the bosses and all the entities and all the organizations to make sure that like I'm crossing every T and dotting every I where if I'm in a specific capacity, there's no, you know, co mingling of funds. Yeah, there's no that. No. And I'm like black and white on these things. Like you have to be. Yeah. And then I assume when you're out there, like, um, you know, pretty, people are pretty high strung because you also got Israel, Iran, that was shit going on. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, that was kicking off on Thursday.

Thursday, bud. And Friday is like- Having this parade. Bad. Bad? How bad? Like bad because it could drag us into it, right? You're like the perfect guy to talk to about this. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And just to be clear and people like, yeah, no shit. Like I'm, I need Israel, Iran issues for dummies.

You know, like I know they want to get rid of their nuclear bomb like capabilities, right? Yep. And that's kind of the whole goal. That was the goal of these strikes. Like capabilities, right? And that's kind of the whole goal. That was the goal of these strikes. 90 seconds, the Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas are all proxy wings of the Iranian military. So the three terrorist organizations that have been attacking Israel for the past 10 years, all of those are being funded by Iran. That's a problem.

Yep. So like the October terrorist attack horrific, right? Funded by Iran. They paid about $200 million over the course of four years in preparation for this attack. You know, so they were providing training and assets resources for the October terrorist attack funded by Iran. Jesus.

Really bad, right? The goal was to make it so bad that Israel would respond disproportionate to what happened, disproportionate to like rape and torture and murder of like women and kids. So it would, and what they wanted was to be dragged into a larger conflict in hopes of Hezbollah and the Houthis to join in. So then it's regional destabilization. That was the goal. The less stable an area is, the more chaos, the more anarchy, the less security, the better

it is for them and the worse it is for America. We as free trade, free market capitalists, if we have stability and security in a region, we get trade and that's what we want. We want a stable world so we can make money. Money. Yeah. Um, they don't want that.

They want the opposite of that. And they hate us and everything that we stand for. So Hamas has blown the hooties all being funded by Iran. Iran all the while is developing a nuclear program. And if you just really simplify this to like bake in a cake, okay, the cake is the nuclear program. You have to have the ingredients, the flour and the sugar and the butter, the oil. You have to have the cook that has the know to how to mix all the things. You have to have the equipment to mix it.

You have to have the pan, you know, you have to have the oven, and then you have to have the facility to do the baking. So like those are the four cornerstones of a program to make a cake. That's why Israel's trying to take out, correct? Yeah. So Israel just effectively destroyed three of those four things the information is Still out there course Dark web like I don't arrange enriched uranium and that's all there

but if I destroy the facilities the equipment and the people and the ingredients and they're flying bombs through people's windows and Because if Iran has a nuclear program, weapon or energy, it will be, and they have said over and over and over again that they will use it against Israel. This is not conjecture. They have said, not threat, like we will destroy Israel. So Israel, but it's like destroying that. It's just going to delay it.

Now my delay of 20 years, but it's just delaying. Yeah. I mean, we, the nuclear bomb has been around since 1945 and, uh, and you know, five countries. Haven't so delaying, um, and, and peding people's ability to, uh, be able to have that responsibility to pretty stable nations. I, and especially one that has been using proxy

radicals to try to wipe you off the face of the planet. It's a problem. It's a problem. But the, but the issue would be for Americans is dragging us into world war three, right? Yeah. I mean, that's what they want.

That's what they want. Yeah. And that would happen if they attacked Israel. If they attacked Americans and they, they tried last night, uh, over our bill, we had, we shot down Iranian drones that were looking to target American troops. And that's at the American embassy there?

It was at a military base. You know, love him, hate him. President Trump does not want to be in a prolonged war. He doesn't want a war. And, but there is a military industrial complex that would love us to be dragged. And yeah, having just come out of 20 years of war, I've been in the military for 20 years. I'm pretty

good on not going back to war. Knowing what you know about war and the stuff you've done, would you let your kiddos sign up for it? I, I mean, you're gonna have no control, but I'm just saying if, you know, someone's like, Hey, it's up to you, man. Would you encourage them to do it? No, I don't want my kids to fight or ever see war. Right.

Yeah. Maybe a hard pass on that one. Hard pass. Right. Yeah. I mean, but, but at the same time, the reason I ask you, because it's, you know, obviously not the war part, but the, the, the elite levels you've got to the friends you've made the networking, you know, what you do now. He, but like you wouldn't want your kids to fight a w it's tough, right? Yeah.

It's tough, right? Yeah. I've never been more proud of our military. Watching the old guard, the 82nd, an entire company of special forces, Ranger regiment, M1 Abrams tanks, strikers, Bradleys, High Mars, paladiers, like mobile artillery, just cruising down Constitution in front of the Washington Monument like mobile artillery just cruising down Constitution

in front of the Washington Monument as the golden Knights, American special operations free fall, the best free fall fallers in the world, jump out of the air, fly and land on the White House lawn and deliver a folded flag to the United States after 250 soldiers raised their hand to the oath of enlistment to protect the Constitution against foreign investment.

That all happened on Saturday, dude. Like, I love this country, and the military is so back. Yeah, it's back. It's back. And the whole world is looking at us like, oh shit, this is a different thing. Come get it. Yeah.

It's such a deterrent for them to everybody's like, Oh, it costs $45 million to do this parade. It just saved us from maybe going into a 5 billion or $50 billion war. Correct. Because everybody's looking at, wait, they got all that stuff. We had more firepower on constitution avenue than 95% of the world combined. Yeah. It's also good marketing. You know what I'm saying? Like come get some. Oh, oh, you, you almost forgot. Yeah. This is what it is. Those other days that those are over. You

almost forgot. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Yeah. It's the best. It is. I almost missed father's day though. I was, I was kind of pouty yesterday Delayed flights, you know trying to come in from DC after all those people flew in there so like the airports were a mess and You know got Got in barely got to see my kids got and give them kisses That's to be tough for you too. Cuz with it comes with the territory with the job you do you're probably gone a lot, right? Yeah, that was this thing I struggle with most with standup and a lot of that stuff. And some of the other agreements I had as I was leaving so much where my kids started to notice, especially once

they started getting involved in sports, like, hold up, you coach and you're not at the game. Like, no, but I got to work. Yeah. That glove costs money. That bat costs money. That coach costs money to be on this field costs money. But I was fortunate enough where I could stay home and still, you know, afford that stuff. It's a fine balance of, of, yeah. And every time that if I'm ever going to make money, it's not going to be in Texas. Like every once in a while, you know,

maybe I'll have a speaking opportunity in Dallas or Houston. But outside that you're all over. Yeah. I mean, 90% of my ability to make money is traveling, advising, consulting. That's going to be in DC. That's going to be in New York. That's going to be, you know, overseas. It's tough, man.

It's hard. Yeah. Yeah. But they're used to it. You figure it out. You have to have a a balance Yeah, I love you, you know Yeah, I tell him like if I if I had if I had my wish and I had limitless resources You'd never see me on another plane You know but for you to have a future and for you to have an opportunity like dads have to work

Great line at tacos with so to my right was, um, Shane Steiner to my left was trip across from me as Satoshi Ishii, Ishii Tyler from archery country. We need to get you a banging bow. Another thing got half year in Texas is a good bow. Yeah. Joe Rogan, Evan Hafer owned the bow shop with Tyler archery country. It's like the best archery bow shop on the planet.

And it's like, just to be able to pull a bow anytime that you want in the backyard. I feel so good. But yeah, I was bragging about how awesome my wife is when I came home middle of the night after being gone in DC for a week on Father's Day. She's a good woman. It makes working so easy when you got a good woman.

Yeah, to hold down the fort. Yeah. Yeah, man. And then like, want my ability to go and work because like I can do it with, I don't wanna go and travel. I don't want to go and be away from them, but to like to come home to that, it makes it easy.

Yeah, cause you know, it's everything's gonna be good. You know, it's gonna come home to chaos and that like she holds it down. Yeah, a good woman makes working easy. Yeah, especially for what you do. She'd have to be super special. Yeah. Yeah. So you're not with how busy you are,

you're not watching a lot of UFC or like, you're not watching team sports and shit. So this weekend, I brought in Frankie Edgar, Michelle Waterson, Gordon Ryan, Luke Rockhold, and we had one other UFC fighter to have a team of five to compete against. There are 20 teams that were fielded by the army as the most fittest team. And it was awesome. It was CrossFit put the event together. It was brutal.

Was it CrossFit like workout? Yeah. It was, I was gonna say, why don't you call your boy, but I ain't doing CrossFit. Oh, it was, you would have been perfect for it. Cause it ended up being a ton of power. Hegseth and, um, secretary of defense. Yeah.

He wants strong like ox military again. He wants men to look the part. Like you should look at an American and be like, nah. Yeah, man. That's what we want. So they, he wants them all to look like you just like giant. You know, like, so this was, there was, there's 10 hundred pound sandbags

and you're in teams of five. You had to grab the sandbags, move them about 25 meters while you're doing 10 rope climbs that about about 10 meter tall. And then you go to a assault bike that has a deadlift fat deadlift bar with 500 pounds on it. And the only time that somebody can be peddling to burn off the hundred calories is after you guys do five deadlifts and then hold it up. It's tough. It's tough.

Um, and this stuff starts adding up. The UFC boys do not great. I was just going to tell you, man, I'm in pretty good shape. That'd be damn tough. We're only like a third way through the workout. Oh, buddy. Yeah. And then you're jumping over these logs and every time that you carry those sandbags down, you have to put it over this three meter tall log and then

jumping over the log to then pick it back up and then carry it another 10 meters. Then they have this snake sandbag that has five 70 to 100 pound sandbags inside of it, which makes it uneven. And all of you guys have to lift it to shoulder overhead and drop it. And you have to do it 10 times. After 10 of those, you do 10 burpees in unison and synchronization over the snake to then pick up the 10 sandbags and carry them back to the start point. I'm glad you didn't call me. Yeah. I feel like it was straight bit.

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Yeah. And I assume, cause I know all these people, they're great. They're great. Yeah. Luke is such a freaking athlete still. Freak. Yeah. He's just such a phenom.

Frankie, all heart, all grit. Michelle, sweetest woman on the planet. Love Michelle. And then Gordon, you know, so talented and he's getting over some health things. So he, he was in the hurt locker. I was just going to say, I love all those people on there, but if I had to bet against the troops, troops smoked them.

Uh, yeah, I'd give the troops a minus 2000. And again, bragging about the army, the Sergeant major of the army, his name's Mike Weimer. The guy's in his mid fifties, 20 years in Delta Force, former special forces and CEO. He is now the highest ranking and CEO in all of the army has a fake hip knees are destroyed. I mean, 20 years as he is, he has more time in combat, you know, than like, I probably have in the army.

Jesus. And Mike Weimer. Still in good shape. Led a team. I was on his team. So he picked five. Yeah, that's Mike right there. Look at that guy.

Oh, dude. I would follow him to the gates of hell. Jesus. Like anywhere he wanted to go, he's Mike right there. Look at that guy off, dude. I would follow him to the gates of hell. Like anywhere he wanted to go out. He's just such an incredible leader. And another example of why this is a different thing. He and his fifties put together a team of generals and sergeant majors. And we, as the five of us went against the, all the other teams. And what's your average age you think? The average age of the team was 50. And you guys held your own. I think we were exactly middle of the pack. That's wild.

That's impressive. Like our time was 1304. We made two huge mistakes on the time. We were the very first team to do it. You know when you get to see somebody do a workout, you're picking. We were the first team to do it. You know, when you get to see somebody do a workout, you're, you're, you're picking. We, we were the first team to go and we still finished 50% out of the whole entire field. Does the military know that those UFC guys aren't really going to do that great in it?

Yeah, we knew they knew what's up. Yeah. Okay. But again, it's not like they're watching like, geez, that's the UFC guys. It's like a credit to, to, to Michelle and Luke and Gordon and Frankie, cause they, they knew they weren't going to do well. I would hope so. Yeah. Like they're, they know it's tough. It's just not, that's not their area of expertise, but that is the area of expertise for military, the military. Now we're going to be fit. We're not going to be fat. We're going to be savage studs that are strong and powerful. It should be. And now not, not to brag. And I don't know if I could do it now.

I still run now, but I remember I'm, I was coming off a loss. I was like in a dark space and the, the UFC marketing team was like, Hey, we have this thing. They flew us some remote location, Nevada. And I don't know if there's Marines or armies, but, um, they, it was five. It was like me, Anthony Pettus, uh, Henderson, forget the other people there, but we, there was some hill or mountain that they run and, but you have to, it was like 85 or 90 pounds, maybe more than that of they loaded you up like the troops. Yeah.

Like we want to see how you guys do. And I think I finished second, second best time. It was like the clearly the guy if his army Marines, whoever was their number one guy, I finished like, I say three seconds behind him at the time. And they're like baffled. Yeah. I was like, it's just running with weight. And like, no, you don't understand. Yeah, all we do. That's rare. Yeah. Yeah. You're a freak athlete. I loved it. I loved it. You're not

normal. I know you know this, but like, you're a great fighter. Yeah. But you're a great fighter because you're a great athlete. Yeah, I was an athlete before I was a fighter. That's right. The difference. And I, I not to like bring back kids back up. I I'm building like good humans that are athletes. And then he can go play whatever sport he wants to You should be able to plug them in. He does great. Like if someone's lacrosse, cool.

Go play lacrosse, baseball. Yep. You got it. I was supposed to be a swimmer until my dad very wisely as a freshman was like, bro, you're going to be five foot 11, maybe six foot tops. Yeah. These guys are. If you got to find a different sport, you know, but as an athlete first. So cool. I switched overnight and athletes first. You know, my wife's from Mexico.

She loves soccer. So she put kids in this, into soccer when they're really young and T's always been big. Oh, he's 99% tall. He's like, he's huge. And he's out there and he's kind of jogging, he's doing things. He's getting real physical with them.

And, uh, it was like towards the end of the game, he's on the sideline. I come over and I go, Hey, let me talk to you. Cause I see him, you know, and I'm like, having fun. He's like, he was on the sideline, I go, hey, let me talk to you. Because I see him, you know, and I'm like, you having fun? He's like, yeah, it's all right. Buddy, you're too big for soccer. This isn't your thing.

It's fun that you have fun doing it. This isn't your thing. We got signing up for baseball, football. He's like, all right, just an athlete, and you plug him in there. I'm like, you're too big to play soccer. It's just not, it's all good. Your mom means well.

You're too fucking big. Anybody can play soccer. I love sports's just not it's all good. Your mom means well, you're too fucking anybody can play soccer. I love sports where there's a barrier of entry of both physicality and technical difficulty. Yes. lacrosse, big time hockey, baseball. Yeah, you know, these are like difficult, complex compound movements. You know, watching the shortstop that like catches a ball off his right side, off of a knee and spins around off of his other knee to like do a sidearm throw

to first base, he was like athlete. How about lacrosse with those kids? Just as good with your left and your right. It's wild, man. It's wild. Nothing better. Yeah, I love it. I love it. But back to the UFC. So will you watch?

Will you still pay attention to it? Because there's guys that I've talked to, I used to do shows with where, and they're UFC legends, but they won't watch any of it. Like I did a panel, the league went under, but I was on a panel with guys that know, guys that they were in the UFC long time commentator stuff. And I started talking about like Tom Aspinall or Islam Akchev and they're like, who? I'm like, what? Like, we haven't watched UFC in like eight years. I'm like, oh, wow. Wow. Yeah. No. Um, I, I still mostly keep up, but, um, because all of us were together, we were watching the fights in the apartment after the birthday. So the day in the morning, we did the workout, competed. Then we did, you know, award ceremonies, army festival. We had about 90 minutes to go shower and change,

get out of my military uniform. All of the guys, Michelle got cleaned up, put on our clothes to go to the parade because you have to go through secret service. Once we got through secret service, you're at the parade for, it was a three hour long parade finished with the gold nights with the flag and the reenlistment, and then there was fireworks. Um, then we went and grabbed dinner and then we went and watched fights.

You watched the fight night. It was main. Yeah. And, um, yeah, um, I was, I had to show up like the call time for, you know, Tim Kennedy, master Sergeant Kennedy in uniform was like four in the morning. Uh, so I didn't make it to the last fight. I'm just gonna be honest. I can't either. Yeah. And we're on the East coast, especially out here. Yeah. Like on the, on the Texas time, it's like, by the time that come in, my,

my family loves UFC. We watch all of it. But since none of them have finished a UFC out here, everyone's asleep by the, for sure. The co-mate event. Yeah. And even I'm like fighting, I'm drinking coffee, you know, cause I get to do it for work. So I'm like, Oh my God.

But you did see, we were talking about it before that Paul Craig, Codolfo. I did watch it live. And then we watched that fight in an Oscar and argued about it for a long time. And what was the consensus? How'd you guys feel about it? This is, I got a lot of trip, like conflicting emotions because you've been through it. I mean, I've had dudes cheat against me. Maybe I have some PTSD around some trauma around guys cheating.

That one was wild. Yeah. Yours is way worse. I mean, come on. Absolutely. So 100% that was an illegal strike. Correct. So he up kicked a downed opponent and two angles of like the five.

Thank. Thankfully there's so many cameras in there now. You're not getting away with it. No, everything that was as we're looking at the fight on the right hand side, you see that kick and the guy's head whips around and you see that heel go from his upper jaw across his temple as the guy then falls over.

Then it gets weird. Yeah, it gets really weird. So we could just pause there before we see his Oscar worthy performance. Cause we're on the there before we see his Oscar-worthy performance. Because we're on the same vibe right now, where definitely an illegal move, illegal kick, for sure. Yep.

On the betting and statistics side, after an illegal strike, fighters that continue to fight after the illegal strike almost always lose. Yes. Groin strikes, pokes to the eye, kicked, kicked down opponent. From that moment on that fighter that's like, no, I'm going to tough it out. I'm going to gird it out. He loses that fight. That fighter will lose.

That's right. My, my whole take on whether it was intentional, unintentional, I poke, groin strike, cave fence grab. It should be automatic deduction. There's no warnings. I don't know why they do warnings. It drives me nuts. Should be automatic. It's an illegal move. 100%. We are so good. And it changes the dynamics of the fight. And statistically 90% of the time they lose. Yep. So knowing that, that's an illegal strike, absolutely disqualifying to kick up an opponent like that if that fighter cannot continue. Now you can have the Henry moment where he's like, that was a legal strike, I can't continue to fight. And he just said it.

Like, I'm not right. What we saw here, and I don't know, I wasn't the guy that got kicked. how bad he was on Queer Street. Yeah, but with your experience and my experience, I've seen guys get concussed, and I know how they react and how the human body reacts. That didn't look right. I've never seen a human body react that way.

That was pretty sus. The weird thing is, he gets kicked, and granted illegal for sure. Didn't seem that hard, but then he looks at the ref as he's falling. He's like, what? And then hits the ground and then closes his eyes. Yep. And then it's not how the human body reacts to. Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Okay. A hundred percent illegal kick. Yes. Right. Kick right up to the head, right on the temple that he's saying. And he came out with a statement. He said, so at first he was in concuss and then we

went back, his body shut down. And that's why he reacted that way. And temp, temple strikes are different than a jaw punch. You know, you got the flash knockout, the concussion from a temple strike ends up, it's weird. Is it that weird? I've never seen it. I don't know. I've seen a lot of fights. I've seen a lot of fights.

I've seen a lot of fights. That was a little questionable. I've never seen it, man. Should it be a no contest? Should he continue to fight after an illegal strike like that? In my opinion, no. But then what happens after that is like, he.

Yeah. I think, um, my, my, my only analysis on it, whether, you know, obviously a legal kick, if they want to take a point, continue with the fight that's on him. Yeah. But when I, when I, when I see that, when a guy has an out and he takes it, I go, ah, man, he's never, he's never gonna be a top dog. It's over. If you, if you have that quit in you and you, you're looking for the, he found his way out, he takes it, I go, ah man, he's never, he's never gonna be a top dog. It's over. If you have that quit in you and you're looking for the,

he found his way out. He found it, you know, he found it. Just like Anthony Smith could have done that against John Jones, but he refused to win that way. So if you're looking for an out and he got it, you got your out dude, it was a no contest, didn't go the way he thought it was gonna go. But when I see that, I'm like, ah man,

he was a good prospect. It's like, he's never gonna be a top dog. And that part see that, I'm like, ah, man, he's, he was a good prospect. It's like, he's never going to be a top dog. And that part too, where he's like pretending that he's grabbing the rough, you know, we're injecting pretending. So that's happened before with guys. All I just waited for a second after the kick and I looked back and I saw him fighting the ref. Me too. And I was like, Oh man, he's messed up. Then when they showed him the replay, I'm like, Oh,

but it was only one, one angle of the replay where you're like, oh, man. Yeah, he's messed up. Then when they showed him the replay, I'm like, oh. But there's only one angle of the replay where you're like, man, I don't know what's going on here. It's when you play it, James. When he's falling down and he's coherent enough to look at the ref, go, you see that? This is unreal. And then pretends he's knocked out. Yeah.

Let's watch it again real quick. Yeah, this angle looks like a legit bad kick. I don't know. No, maybe he's telling the truth. Maybe, maybe, yeah. Maybe it just looks like bad acting and he goes on to become champ and I'm wrong. But on On the Paul Craig side, like you can't, you can't do that. It's also tough because he was going up and down. Yeah.

It's also tough when you're in there too, when the, you know, no pun intended, but when the, when the, when the bullets are live, like you're going through the motions and you think he's going to come back down, he kicks, maybe didn't know his knee was down. Like Paul Craig's been fighting for a hot second. He's a veteran. He's, he's beat some very good guys. I been fighting for a hot second. He's a veteran.

He's, he's beat some very good guys. I've never kicked a down opponent in 60 something variety of bout bouts from pan craze to MMA to UFC to IFL to Debbie's like, I've never, I've never kicked a down opponent. Um, I was trying to help them out there. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, yeah.

But I also like, I got a ton of hate before I him out there. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. But I also like, I got a ton of hate before I knocked out your Romero. Um, when I'm trying to grab him, my hand slips down and everyone's like, Oh, look, Tim grabbed his glove. Well, watch it in real time, not in slow motion. And you'll see like hands are going. There's no intent of me trying to grab my, grab his glove. I'm grabbing his wrist, but by also in defense of

him, like as bodies are moving and fight time, shit happens. Yeah. Yeah. Once he's like, and also Paul Craig's like, I would never do that. Like look at my resume. I would never potentially do that. And I was thinking intentionally tried to kick down a point. He was on his back, up kicking the guys going up and down and up and down. I'm going to give him the credit, especially with his resume. Yeah. But yeah, it was weird, man. It was weird. Yeah, it's drama. It's weird. It's fun fighting. And then in the UFC, are you involved, not involved,

but have you signed your papers for that UFC, uh, antitrust lawsuit? Yeah. Yeah. Um, and they're figuring out the, so UFC bought strike force and my final fight under. That's right. Your Strike Force guy.

Either my last one or two fights, depending on like the date of purchase, were under Zufa. So those two fights, am I getting paid for those two fights, even though it's under the Strike Force banner, Zufa. So those two fights, am I getting paid for those two fights, even though it's under the Strikeforce banner Zufa owned? I also agree that I should, but it's not as black and white for me as to like how many fights are gonna be included in that. Still gonna get a good paycheck, because I know what I'm getting. You had more fights than I did. Yeah, it's not a little bit, but it's not like Frankie Edgar. No. I was the Frankie Edgar. You talked about did. Yeah, it's not a little bit, but it's not like Frankie Edgar. No.

I was Frankie Edgar. You talked to him about it? Yeah. I would love for us to like sit down at a dinner and talk about what everyone's getting paid. Because I know what I'm getting paid. I'm like, really? That dude has like 20 fights.

Yeah, dude. Like dudes like him, Daniel Cormier. Anderson Silva. Oh, bro. I heard what the, I've heard a loose estimate. What Anderson's going to get. Yeah. I was like, Oh wow. Can I borrow some money? Yeah. You're damn right. He's taking it. Yeah. Yeah. But they called me and they're like, Hey, we know if you, if you don't want to take this because of the UFC backlash on like, wait, what? No, no, no. Oh no. You're talking to the right guy.

I don't work for them. Yeah. And I don't think there's, there's you, if you back, I have profound respect for Dana White. Yeah, I love him. I do love him. And he does really great things for the army, for the military, for the FBI, for the administration. The UFC would be nowhere near where it's at without Dana White.

Yeah. I give credit to where it's due. Obviously I've had, when I was on the opposite end of the negotiating table with him, he and I had like not a great relationship. Same. That was his job. Agree.

And now we're not on the opposite end of the table. It's all good. And it's all good. Yeah, and I get it too. Uh-huh. I'm like, I would probably would've done the same. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, when there was one, who was I fighting? Hodger Gracie. It was my first fight in the UFC when he brought all the athletes, his coaches get out, just fighters coming to the locker room. This is before the fight speech? This is before the fight speech. And he's, uh, you know, Hey, I'm not going to name names.

But I want you guys to go out there and put on a show. I don't want you to go out there and wrestle and grapple. You know, I don't want to talk about you being, um, that you'd make more money being a trash man. Actually, I will name names. You know, Tim Kennedy, do you know what? This is in front of all the fighters before the fight as he's dressing me down. That's why you gotta kind of love it. Holy shit. The balls on this guy. Yeah. And if I was him, I'd do the same thing. Same thing, man. Yeah. But also the UFC antitrust lawyer told me too, he's like, now a lot of guys are hesitant to take it because they might work for the UFC currently. They're fighting or they're commentators.

He's like, but there's going to be no blackballing. Like, because the UFC's paid this money. So whether you take it or not, it does not matter. Like they're not going to look ill upon those that take it. So you don't have to worry about it. Yeah. That's also the attorney telling us that, and he's getting whatever like 40, 50, 60% of the whole

stuff. Yeah. These guys. Yeah. It is interesting though, cause the original lawsuit was for like 1.2 billion. They settled, I think at like whatever 425 or 475. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, it could, it could be better or nothing.

You know, Mark Hunt's lawsuit. Um, that was tough, right? It's tough. You know, his argument, he was fighting guys that during an era where nobody's supposed to be using performance enhancing drugs, nobody's supposed to be. And the guy, a few of the guys that he fought to in particular, the UFC knew that they were using PEDs and was allowing them to fight him enhanced. Is there evidence that they knew? Yeah. Or did they, oh, there is evidence. Yeah. Well, according to him, there's two.

Yeah, of course. It's tough, right? Because he would have an argument if he didn't fight. I think that's the problem is like, he continued to fight knowing, you know, your fighters though, your fighters, your prize fighter. The only time that you get the prize is when you fight. And so I don't know how many times you fought, not a hundred percent. All the time. all the time. But then I also fought guys who I knew were on sauce. And I was like, that's fine. Yeah. Cause you're a fighter.

It's part of the game. It's like, yeah, it's not supposed to be when I fought Levar Johnson, like clearly juice to the gills. We're at wayans. I looked at Dana, I go, I bet you finished his fourth in the Olympia this year. And he started laughing and then sure enough, you know, I beat the brakes off him, but sure enough, after that fight, he tested hot.

Yeah. But it's, that's just part of the game. Yeah. It's part of the game. So we're more kind of shitty, but it's part of the game. Yeah. Especially he's fighting Brock Lesnar. It's like, well, of course he's on shit.

Yeah. Come on, dude. Have you seen Brock's daughter? Yes. At CSU. Yeah. What, what an athlete. Monster. She looks just like daddy. Yeah. What an athlete.

Monster. She looks just like daddy. Yeah, God bless her heart. Tough life as far as like personal life, for sports, buddy. So I don't know how I feel about a girl that's throwing things that weigh lots of weight further than I. Oh, dude, we can't even, there's no way.

And if you're a Brock, I wonder how you feel about if you're Brock, like I always tell my wife with our daughter, I'm like, man, hopefully she doesn't get my size. I fucking, it's a tough gig, man. For sports it's great, but for personal life, it's a tough gig. They look identical. Especially at that same age.

You know, that's him long in the tooth. You know, like if the pictures of them at the same age, you know, that, that's him long in the tooth. You know, like if, if the pictures of them at the same age, it is strikingly similar. Yeah. If you see Brock Young, like when he was wrestling, I think at Minnesota, like freak man, freak. People don't give Brock enough credit. You're talking about a complete freak. Didn't have a ton of experience,

catapulted right to the top. They give him Heath Haring his first fight, a real vet from pride. Yeah. Not an easy fight. No. Molly whops him too. Yeah. Like he, like Brock was the real deal.

Have you met him? Yeah. Great guy. Great human. Unbelievable guy. Does great things for veterans too. Does he? Yeah.

He's a stud man. Cause I remember I was trying to get a fight with him. I talked to all this shit, all this shit. And then we're at some press conference. I won some award for the UFC and he was there promoting some fight and I see him and my coach, Lisa Bolan, I look at him like, dude, I've talked so much shit, be ready to go. Like he's going to

fight me. Like I definitely overstepped the boundaries and I'm so nervous and I get up there and meet him. He's like, buddy, love what you're doing. I get, I get it, man. I'm from the W I love you, man. Give me a big hug. I was like, oh, he's that, I don't want to fight this guy. He's awesome. He's awesome. Give me a big hug. I was like, I don't want to fight this guy. He's awesome. He's awesome. Yeah.

Really good dude. Great human. Another father, son combo, Jocko Willink's daughter. Oh yeah? Yeah. She's one of the best women grapplers on the planet right now. No way. Just mopping the mats.

Makes sense though. Yeah. Does she look like Jocko? She does. See that's a, you're like, hell yeah, this is badass. But then also. Yeah, feminine. I think she's beautiful and she's.

Yeah, she looks just like Jocko. Just Jocko. And she has the muscles. Broad shoulders, good jaw. I've never met Jocko. Oh, he's one of my favorite humans on the planet. Everyone says that. Yeah.

He's close to Theo like, yeah. And another like selfless behind the scenes helping people out, you know, like stud when I was going through some stuff six months ago, one of the first dudes to reach out him, Joe Huberman, you know, like these people that are super famous and everybody loves to listen to him and they're even better behind the camera. Yeah, love that. All these guys are. Like, I don't know.

You're pretty freaking amazing. Brian's amazing, Joe's amazing. I don't know. The greatest dudes are the greatest dudes. If you're faithful in the small things, you can be faithful at the big things. And did you expect that when you're going through your bullshit? Did you expect the back end you'd get from those guys? You know what I'm saying?

I didn't. No, I never even thought that. I guess I show you want to expect it, but we like, Oh, that's cool. So cool. Especially when you're going through it, you get to find out who your friends are. Yep. And that was the greatest gift of all of it was, you know, like the, the fair weather friends, the coattail writers, the, um, sponsors that are like, Oh, I'll support Tim when

he's captain America, you know, but like somebody starts talking smack about him. Um, and, you know, like bringing receipts and then you find out really who your friends are. Yeah. It almost does you a favor. Best, best. I tell it to Brian all the time. You know, Brian went through his shit. I'm like, in hindsight, he went through it, buddy. We both did. Went through it. But I told him, Brian, in hindsight, you're cutting the fat, man.

You're cutting the fat. You've seen who's in your Fox home, who's not. When shit hits the fan, now you have a handful of guys you can call and you know they're going to show up. Before you had no clue. You might make a wrong call and you know, you're going to be the first one to and you know, they're going to show up before you had no clue.

Yeah. You might make a wrong call. It's too much time, you know? Yeah. It's cool. It is. It's for sure. Blessing does make it better when you're in it.

And when you're like getting it from both sides, you're a coward, stolen valor, like what you're still in the heart of, you know, people talking all that nonsense. It still sucks. Um, and then it's less. I don't know. But no, it still sucks. Still sucks. But now I'm just like, dude, I love these people so deeply.

And I will for forever because of my stance on on on that whole things that you know, you and I talked about and I was pretty vocal online about it too. It's like, I don't know, like your world. I don't know. I don't know. But I know you. I know you and we've trained together and you've been such a good friend of me. So it's like I'm sticking up for 10. You guys don't know him. I do motherfucker. You guys don't you know, from Instagram or the video you saw me in. I know the fucking guy.

So anyone wants to contest that, bring it on. Let's do it. Cause I'll, I'll, I'll, you know, bow for you all fucking day. So that was my stance on it. Now when it gets into the weeds and all that shit, I don't, I don't fucking know. It's like, if someone's not a black belt and they're talking to us about Jiu-Jitsu, you know, you, if you want to talk about Jiu-Jitsu, yeah, we can get into the weeds. I'll do that with you. I know that pretty well. But I don't know, I don't, I don't fucking know. It's like, if someone's not a black belt and they're talking to us about Jiu-Jitsu, you know, you, if you want to talk about Jiu-Jitsu, yeah, we can get into the weeds. I'll do that with you. I know that pretty well. But it's just general stuff. Yeah, man.

You know, remind me when we leave here to connect you directly to Victor Hugo. Yes. I just started communicating with him last week. Okay. You guys number. I have his number. Okay. Yeah. We're supposed to set something up this week. And there's a little nervous for it because, you know, uh, you know, I've been doing, I do a lot of training on my own like that. He's the coolest. They said,

he's like the, um, Hey, I need to flow row roll. I'm busted up. Um, he's gonna be like, Hey, I want to grapple. I mean, it's just, my whole thing is that I can't afford to get hurt. No, you know what I'm saying? So many people get hurt. He is a world champion. The ego does not exist. You know, like there's Victor Hugo, I'm here to compete. And then there's like, I run an academy as I'm a professional gym owner and martial artist.

So many people tell me this, like this is the perfect place because he just can't get hurt, you know? Yeah, he's one of my favorite roles and makes me feel like a child. Yeah, I'm going to see him this week. Can you like the jujitsu in Austin, dude, you're going to go trade with Victor Hugo and then we'll, we'll go down to other six plates, Jim will train with Shonji, Roberto Gordon, Ryan and

Gary are opening their gym, which is about a mile from the other six plates. Jim obviously we have B team with Nick Rodriguez and Craig Jones. You're right. And then we can go up to new wave and train with Luke Griffin. So wild, dude. Yeah.

Dan, hers just coming back. My gym, I think I have 40 black belts. I see. I didn't know you had a gym. I just thought you were bouncing around to all these gyms. I didn't know you had, you run your own. I bounce around to these gyms. But you still have your.

Yeah. I have my, a grace who am I to set up Cedar Park is my Jiu-Jitsu gym. There's another Grace Huamida South, which is Paulo Brandao, Hoyler, I'm a Hoyler and Paulo black belt under them. So my Grace Huamida, you know, like the pyramid scheme that is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Bro, yeah, cause technically I'd be a black belt

under Hanzo because- That's a good black belt to HENZO because my black belt. Yeah. Well, it's pretty cool. Well, but HENZO didn't give it to me. It was given to me by a mall Easton who was a black belt under HENZO. And then we train at HENZO's, but then my black belt was awarded from a HENZO black belt. If that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take a little break cause dads, the Father's Day sale at Dry Fast All Gas is still going on through Wednesday. You get $5 off using the promo code dad, $5 off anything on the site, anything you buy.

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Do it for your boyfriend. Do it for your mans. We got you going to dry fast, all gas.com promo codes dad for $5 off until Wednesday. Try fast, all gas.com. Good luck. Yeah. I'm a Hoyler Gracie black belt, but Hoyler and Palo gave me my black belt. Yeah.

You know, so like Hoyler tight around my waist, but, but Palo Brandow was my jujitsu coach. Yes. Gotcha. Yeah. So same, same, same thing. Yeah. That's cool. That's Austin though.

Yeah. And then you have these purple belts that are monsters. You always got to watch out for the purple belt. Yeah. You know, the purple is just the guy who like you, they're usually young, foam at the mouth, they're putting their hours in and they're probably skill wise, just as good as the black. They are. Yeah. But they just haven't had the years, but they're trouble, man. Yeah. They're trouble. Yeah. Oh, a purple belt getting ready, ready for competition besides the professional grapplers. Yes. They're the most dangerous grappler in the mats.

By far. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I learned that long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. My, my thing in LA was, especially in the Valley was that, cause I, you know, I rolled with

Henner and Huron atan at the Torrance Academy. And then when I started rolling down where I'm at, it was like guys would go so hard. And I just went, hey, man, Dana White's not going to give you a contract if you tap me out. I'm literally just looking for work, man. So it was a fight. It was a fight.

Eventually, I was like, man, this just isn't what I want to do every day. Marighelli's here too. He's just getting healthy again. Um, you know, we have big Dan, uh, Marighelli's another great role. Are you in a gear lot? Just depends. Okay. Cause I mean that's a gear Academy. Yeah. I mean, I think they only have like one or two no-ge classes. Are you in a gear lot?

I'm almost exclusively in a gear. I wrestle no-ge. Um, like this morning at boxing, we did after the 20 minute warmup, we did seven, eight rounds of bag stuff. And then I did three or four rounds of wrestling no gi stuff. The Satoshi was there. The, um, William Tackett was there.

Um, have you ever had Satoshi take him a ride? Oh yeah. If you, when you, I remember when I first started training with him, you know, gold medalist in judo, if you, if you let him get that underhook, he's going to, I've seen him launch well named guys just.

Boom. You know, I love the body lock. You know, I love the clench. That's like put me in a phone booth and I'll fight. Dude, that was the east. I was shooting the lowest singles. I possibly could on that guy. Cause if, if my hands went above his knees, you're

going to get launched. Yeah. It took me a long time to learn how to shut that down. Yeah. A long time. Um, it was like a top gun. Like I was inverted.

Yeah, dude, I've, I've seen big names and we would all wait. Like the name would come in at rain down there in orange County and we just wait and then you'd see him go with each year and we'd all just pretend to spar and just watch it. I got it to everybody. John Danahur was using me, um, as a body for some

of his MMA rounds, getting him ready for a few of his last fights and, um, and that really solidified that I'm happy to be retired. Yeah, man. Yeah. But I'm gonna need to dust off the old, the old joints and everything. Get back in there, man. It's such a great, um, on the guys like us that are, you know, well into, we still want to do it. We never want to get hurt. I never want to get hit in the head. I want to take care of my brain. I want to take care of my joints, but I love it still. And I'm gonna love it for forever.

So for that to happen, I have to have guys like you and Sean and Tyson, and Victor. They're gonna take care of you, man. Yeah, and they do take care of you. We're all there for the same reason. It's awesome. I can't wait, dude. I can't wait.

All right, what do you got, Chin? All right, wait, I have a question for Tim. Oh, real quick, Tim. I can't wait, dude. I can't wait. All right. What do you got, Chin? All right. Wait, I have a question for it. Oh, before you ask, I have a question too. So with, with the, the Israel, Iran stuff, what happened to Ukraine? Oh, we're still going. Yeah. I know it's still, but we like, the news just decides like, ah, we're good. Let's, this is the new trendy thing.

It don't get me started on the news. Like you, you're getting me fired up. good. Let's this the new trendy thing. It don't get me started on the news. Like you're gonna get me fired up. Yeah, that's a completely. So the news, they just should take that. They have a sole purpose, which is to sell marketing. Correct. That is how their revenue works. That's the business model.

So for them to self something, for them to sell ads, they have to have people tuning in. People tune in to fear, people tune in to drama, people turn into war and conflict. So the fresher, the newer, the scarier, the chance for escalation is American to be dragged into this. You know, like the body's being dragged out. That's what they want. And it got boring. Yeah. Drone warfare, trench warfare in Ukraine. Yep. But it's still very going on. A hundred percent. Yeah. Wow. All right. Sorry, Jen. Just, I forgot to ask that.

It's all good. So you mentioned the glove thing, right? You're in the middle of fighting. Yep, you're all wearing a glove thing. Yeah. So I always tell Brendan this, I feel like there's such an easy fix for that. Like, you know how there's a glove, and you do wrap the strap, right, with tape,

but if you put that tape over the glove as well and onto your forearm. You kind of do. What? They kind of do. They kind of do. It goes usually up to here. You're saying like up to there? Yeah, but if you actually like wrap it around your forearm

to where it's on your skin and the glove, I think that would just solve that problem. Yeah, it doesn't happen very often. I know that that's what Brennan was saying too, is it's not that often, but I believe that would actually just solve the problem. It's not even a big deal. That duct tape on your arm hair would be pretty uncomfortable. Uncomfortable, I get that would actually just solve the problem. It's not even a big deal. That duct tape on your arm hair would be pretty uncomfortable.

Uncomfortable, I get that. That's the one thing that I thought about. And I don't know the blatant glove grab. I don't think I've ever seen it. I've seen it a few times in the UFC, but I mean, it's very rare where they'll like grab it. It's more like that. Yeah, you guys are like in a scramble

and you just accidentally grab it. I get that, yeah. While we're speaking the UFC, but I mean, it's very rare where they'll like grab it. It's more like that. Yeah. You guys are like in a scramble and you just accidentally grab it. I get that. Yeah. Well, while we're speaking to UFC, cause you, you trained with John, you were at Jackson's when John was there. I was his second fight and his first, um, training

camp with Rashad is when I was there. So you're there during the hay day. I was there and I keep trying to tell people cause I was there for his Gusman fight. And then right when I started when we, for the ultimate fighter, I was at Jackson's and I always tell people, whatever you think about him as a person is whatever. But as far as a fighter goes, I've never seen

anything like it. Yeah. Never. He, uh, in the, uh, existence of humans, you could take anyone in recorded history, uh, in the, uh, existence of humans, you could take anyone in recorded history, you lock them in a room with John Jones and they have to fight for the death. John Jones walks out every time, no matter who it is. Francis, Francis, I don't care who, who it doesn't matter. Drop any name. Uh, peak John Jones is going to beat anybody Goliath.

The best I've ever seen. Yeah, I don't. But he's not like us when it comes to like the training and the regiment and the, you know, and having structure. And for, but it works for him. Like that chaos kind of works. Don't get me wrong, he still put his hours in, but it was just different.

And to me, like his mental fortitude, where I was a guy, if I was a little off here, I'm like, Oh man, maybe I shouldn't train today or, Oh man, I need to do this rep. It's going to count when I'm in the octagon. He wasn't like that. Yeah. He believed in his skills, even if he had a two week training camp. Yeah. We got like the bone nickel and the Brian Stan on this end of the spectrum. And then on this end of the

spectrum, you have the cowboy, Saroni, we'll just call it the on this scale of one to 10 cowboy down here, and the perfection athlete over here, counting every calorie every minute of sleep optimization of REM time during that sleep, how many training sessions they're going to have in a day, right? That's like the psycho perfect. And on this end, if something's off about that perfection of that camp, that is going to negatively affect their performance in the, in octagon. And then on this side, these guys are like sit, hop, hopping on a boat or hopping on a jet ski or sitting on a snowmobile.

They're riding on horseback, throwing tomahawks at each other. Getting injured. Don't care about anything. Don't care about anything. They are getting injured. Yeah. They're drinking, getting, you know, DUI on a boat and fighting a dude on the side. I know.

And that cowboy grit thing, like no matter what happens, um, in the ring or in fight camp, it doesn't matter. They're good. Cause they're just, just a regular day. Both are super important. Yes. Obviously perfection is number five where you have enough of that cowboy John Jones thing. And then if we could get a little bit of, I was an obsessive person off this side.

Um, and I definitely had like the fight, but I was maybe like a six or seven on that scale, John Jones is like a three or four. He's definitely on this side, but he does real fight camps, you know, and he's training with Gibson and he's training with like, he's, he's getting all of the blocks checked, but he just cares a little less. It's what makes them super special. It's a rare thing when you get that number five, that perfect balance of both. Yep.

So Randy couture. Oh yeah. You know, that's a Henry Couture. That's um, I was the Aldo. That's an Anderson Silva. Yep. Um, and they ended up being the goats. Yeah, I know.

Yeah. Yeah. John just has that thing where I would stare him like up all night and he comes in and just beats the shit out of us. I was like, God, I wish I had that. I'm freaking out because they didn't put kale in my juice. Like on my day's box. Yeah. He angered me. I would like do not that I did it often, but I'd get something. I'd like a takedown or a submission. That was the one and only time I would ever hit that again. It never would I see it another time, you know, like,

and it always happens in training. And I'm not saying that like great things happened in rounds between me and John Jones in training. I'm saying that a moment where something went right for Tim Kennedy in around never happened again. He downloads the data. He's like, got it.

Yeah. Yeah. I remember we had a guy. You like that moment. I remember there was a guy in the gym. I forget his name. He passed away. He's him.

His brother were wild boys and they're at, um, at Jackson's. And it was me or Lofsky, some other big names. And then these brothers and the one brother, I was like, God, look at his energy. Look at it. What is he doing? And Winkle John was like cocaine, but it's called cocaine. There's no pre-workout.

That's going to be a big corn fed white guy. Yeah. What was his name? He passed away. Yeah. And his brother is a wild boy too. His brother came to the UFC, but you know, they're just wild, but he was doing, which we

weren't supposed to do. Like he kept doing spinning back fist over and over and over. And me or a lot of Alaska and these other guys were like, what the fuck? And he's kind of landing stuff. He's just awkward. Couldn't get them down.

And then, uh, John goes in there and we told him like, Hey, be careful, man. He's throwing all this stuff. He goes, he got it. And just beat the shit out of the guy. Like he was like, what? Yeah. Okay.

And just did his thing off by two hours of sleep. No, I only got two fights with, uh, two fight camps with Rashad at the gym. I love Rashad. I love him too. I've trained with him for a long time. Almost fought him at Madison Square Gardens. Uh, I would have, would have loved to have fought him. Loved him as a training partner. Uh, he was the best. He was great. Great. Great. He also, you know, when you arrive in a new place, first time I got to Jackson's, you know, took me under the wing.

Very first meal I had there was with him. He's like, no, no, come eat with me. And then we went out to Santa Fe. We got, you know, the vitamin enriched IV bags as a recovery. He's like, no, here's a great massage place. They hook us up with great. He's the best. Yeah, It was great. I didn't need to do any of that stuff. Rashad though, was the reason I made an

ultimate fighter because I was training with him. So he's the one who gave me that freaking golden ticket. And then when I first came to Jackson's, I stayed at Don Cerrone's house with him and Leonard Garcia. And Donald was just like, you know, Mr. Jackson's and just let me stay at his house, took me under his wing.

Like, like Cowboys, one of those guys, you can realize. I was like, you know, Mr. Jackson's and just let me stay at his house, took me under his wing. Like, like Cowboys, one of those guys you can rely on. Yeah. Cowboys, one of those guys. He is, I don't talk to him anywhere near as much as I should, but he is on a short list of maybe five guys that are my three o'clock friend, my 3 AM friend. Yep. And I know he will pick up and I hundred percent. And I know no matter what I ask him, he would do it if it's like, um, and I mean anything, if I was like cowboy, I need your help right now. Um, he would, he would write me a check for

whatever he had in the bank account. Yeah, he's the man. If I need you to bury a body, he would bury a body. Yep. And people say that. Cowboy would do it. Cowboy would do it.

Yep. He's just one of those dudes. Salt of the earth. The best. Even I was, cause me and him did the mint 400 racing together. Yeah. Polaris down there.

I wish I had that Polaris was that a deal was doing some promotional work for this team. And I spent months driving their car, driving, driving the race car to get ready for the mint 400 flying for spec, you know, leave my family. It's this huge commitment flying for spec and just the engine blew and they didn't, you know, leave my family. It's this huge commitment flying for spec and, uh, just the engine blue. And they didn't tell me it blew the day before they didn't tell me cause they

still want me for appearances and stuff. I was like, well, I'm here to race. And then me and cowboy have the same sponsor. We're doing this thing together and he can tell I'm down. He said, what's my, I'm like, dude, I can't race all that time. My brother's here. He's my co-pilot, like all that time. And we're screwed.

And he goes, I have a car you can use. I'm like, what? He goes, yeah, you can't race all that time. My brother's here. He's my co-pilot, like all that time. And we're screwed. And he goes, I have a car you can use. I'm like, what? He goes, yeah, you can just use mine. I'm like, no cowboy. It's like so much money. He goes, don't worry about it. You didn't come down here to waste your time. You can use mine and let me race with him and his team.

The best dude. I love you. Cowboys are owning dude. Fucking shout out to cowboy. I love that guy. The best he's kicking ass in that. That's why I got mad when I found out he's coming back for a fight and he wants to get to 40 or 50. Where the hell he's at.

I got mad at him and then he called me and when he explains it to you, like, I get it. I get it. I got you, bud. I got you. I get it. He's like, you just have to get to that number, dude. It's big for me.

So it's all I want. I'm like, do your thing, man. I love him. Yeah. And he's not going to change. Never. No. And I don't want him to change. I don't want him to fight thing, man. I love him. Yeah. And he's not going to change.

Never. No. And I don't want him to change. I don't want him to fight, but I don't want him to change. And I don't know how to reconcile those two things. His kids names are Danger and like Chaos. Like I name my kid Wild Stuff is Danger and like Savage or some shit. It's wild. Oh, we went out there on the weekend. You know, I had a hard training week. It's Saturday. It's supposed to be like a fun, like let loose day. I get out there and he has like guns, spears and axes.

And he had just built this huge two by four wall and he had like balloons and we just went out there and started like chucking edged weapons. Yeah, that's cowboy man. Think how much fun like chucking edged weapons. Yeah. That's the cowboy, man. Think how much fun his kids are having. Yeah. Yeah. His wife's awesome. Yeah. They're great. Yeah. It's good. Good. Good era. The best, man. He's a little different now. Yeah. It's a little different. No, I'm not going to say in a bad way. It's just, it's just, it's just a different time. I'm not gonna say in a bad way, it's just a different time.

I don't know if it's good or bad. I know the UFC is an industry and the UFC is the brand now. Yes. You know, we were the brand. Mm-hmm. We, as the athletes, they, now the fight promotion is leading up to an event and that event is the product. They sell out before they even announced the card. Yeah.

It's just, it's just different time. But now for the UFC, it's like, I get business, do your thing, man. It's the money you're worth a billion dollars. You're worth a lot of money now, but do your thing. Do you remember Leo DiMucita walking out in the gi and goosebumps, right? Like you could feel the energy in the whole, when Anderson Silva would walk out and he's starts moving, you know, and like the electricity was, the energy was contagious.

And it was because of him, you know, Conor. Solely because of him. But now that, you know, again, business, so I get it, but now, you know, they're mandatory 46 fights a year, fight nights. So you're getting, you know, two, three cards a month with a pay-per-view. The depth of the roster is 4X from what it was in our era.

4X. 4X, man. You know, like they're, they're, they're, they're trimming fighters that are like one in two in our era. Like they're getting, they're getting a lot of guys from day-to-night contender series. They win one fight and then they're getting a lot of guys from doing like contender series. They win one fight and then they're giving these contracts, you know,

so you get put on one exciting fight from like a spinning, whatever. We'll punch the ticket for this kid. Yeah. I'd love to talk to those kids and be like, dude, it's a marathon, not a sprint, but don't do it. Just wait. Just wait.

Yeah. It's just different time. Yeah. I don't know. We'll figure it out. I don't want to sound like the old fart. I know where the old guys are. In my day, look at the heavyweight division.

There's not a guy from the champ to the number three. Those guys would be ranked, but the rest of them, not a chance. Not a chance. Not a chance. We had monsters, dude. Monsters. And I don't know what happened because there's always this thing like, I remember when I was fighting, like, dude, can you imagine kids when, when, you know, in 10 years from now, like

they're growing up with UFC and MMA. So they're going to be just discipline MMA, not just specialized in Jiu-Jitsu or wrestling or boxing, there'll be just MMA and these heavy weights, man, instead of going to the NFL, NBA, they're going to the UFC and never came. Just it's fighting is just a different animal. Yeah.

It just never came. Was this the last time that you went to a fight? I went to one championship because I was working for them. I went to the one in Denver. Oh, and then I commentated a, a game bred bare knuckle. But as far as UFC, I haven't been to UFC in a hot second.

I went to Francis Stipe in Boston, whatever that was like nine years ago. Yeah. Do you go to them? I've been to a couple a hot second. I went to Francis Stipe in Boston, whatever that was like nine years ago. Yeah. Do you go to them? I've been to a couple of them. Uh, we, we, we should do, uh, like a legacy event where, you know, the,

especially here where we have so many, I mean, there's, there's 20 UFC boss routines here, you know, um, check Congo's here. Yeah. Oh, is he? Yeah. Love that. Yeah. He's, he's like 20 minutes from here. Love it. He hasn't trained with us enough. Yeah. Um, he'll like, he'll, he'll pop in some days, but he's always a good guy. He's great. He's a monster. Yeah. That would be fun to go. All of us, like

20 of us fly out to an event. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. My heart rate definitely got up, especially when I was commentating for a beer knuckle MMA and you're just like, Oh my God. And it was, who was it? It was JDS, Junior Dos Santos fighting. I think it was for Doom. And I'm just sitting there like, good God, man.

This is wild. You look good. Yeah. Orlovsky looked really good too. Yeah. That jab to the up elbow. A lot of those guys are still doing the damn thing. Orlovky looked really good too. Yeah. That a jab to the up elbow. A lot of those guys is still still doing the damn thing. You know, he's still going.

I mean, he won the heavyweight title 20 years ago. Oh yeah. If not more. Yeah. Is that how long that was? Yeah, very long. When he had the things in his mouth. Feet and his hair.

Oh, that was so gorgeous. There's luscious. Oh, I know. It's like gorgeous move back and forth. And when did he win the title? Dude, he probably won in 90 some maybe 2001. He's another great human. He's a shooter.

It makes sense against him. Sylvia. Yeah. 2005, 20 years ago, 20 years ago, 20 years ago. And he's still doing it at a high level. Dude, me and our last key train together for, for a long time. And then when the UFC told us we're going to fight each other, I was like, fuck socks, man.

It was such a boring fight because we knew each other. Yeah. He was the best. I'm right training with him. I was like, I, cause I drank coffee before and I was like, Hey man, sorry about my brother. We're close. I got like coffee breath.

He goes better than yesterday. Yesterday was shit. And just walked away. I'm like, okay, cool, man. Oh, he's 20 years ago. Savage. Yeah. Would you like bare knuckle?

Um, there's some good things I like about it. You know? Yeah. Same. Yeah. Um, yeah, some of it's tough. Some I like about it. You know? Yeah. Same. Yeah. Yeah. Some of it's tough.

Some of it's tough. Yeah. The cut, the cuts, especially Luke learned the hard way. Yeah. It's a different, it's a different type of fighting. Luke's so skilled, so skilled. His grappling, you grapple, monster, so skilled. Good striking his kicks, his boxing, his movement, and his grappling.

I got 25 minutes with him in the ring to. He's a savage. He's great. Monster. He's great everywhere too. Yeah. He. Yeah. And then he had his teeth put, put, put through

his lips and Mike Perry was like, say less, dude, watch this. It's just, that's what guys don't realize. Like, well, we'll add success in the UFC and the octagon. Why it's just going to transit. Mike Perry was decent. The UFC, I'm going to fuck him up and bare knuckles. Like, no, you're not.

No, you're not. Cause he's the, the, the distance is different. The punches are different. Like he's going to make it miserable on you. Yeah. He just, um, I saw him sparring with Sean. Yeah. Mike Perry was just with Sean Strickland and

Sean Strickland was destroying him effortlessly picking them apart. The, the, the little Philly shuffle he's done. Yeah. Um, kicks great hands out angling him better head movement. I mean, Perry never touched him. Of course. Moment those gloves came off and they did a bare

knuckle fight, um, just different. Yeah. I did a bare-knuckle fight. Um, just different. Yeah. I would never bare-knuckle fight Perry. No, no, no. But it's also like his thing. Like if anyone was built for that, it's him. I'll tell you who I wish was still around that could have done it is Kimbo Slice. Yeah. He was made for that. Yeah. Love that guy. Yeah. Paige Van Zandt did it, didn't she? Yes. There's a hilarious meme or like her eyes. She's like, everything's great. I had so much fun. Yeah, I see that.

I had so much fun. Can't wait to do it again. All right. What do you got? She's stunning. You know, she's one of those beautiful things ever. Yeah. She's, she's what makes women's fighting tough.

You're like, no, no, no, no one touch her. Yeah. No, don't punch her in the face. She's gorgeous. Don't do that. Yeah. And then somebody like, yeah, it makes sense. Punch her no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, She she rustled with as a mom. Is this the right thing? But I said I was gonna be the UFC champion their highest weight class for women is this so I have to do that and She did it the right way. I was really happy to watch her dieting calorie cutting She's the most professional when you talk about that scale. Yeah, dude. She's she's on the eight and way over there way over there But she isn't as they get She's enough trauma unfortunately in her background you know from

Molestation when she was on the judo team a lot of us are yeah, that's the meme. So this is actually Taylor Starling, but yeah She's beautiful too, yeah, I mean, not right now. She's looking so good. Her hands such a good time. Okay. Wait till you're back in there. But with Kayla Harrison, like her fights, that weight cut and, um, did she get touched in that title bout? No. I mean, one punch. Yeah. I don't think so. No, no. It was so dominant. And now she'll find Amanda Nunes. And my thing is, you know, Amanda's a big girl too. Like why make them, as long as it's for a bell, no one cares.

No one's going to remember if it's for 35, 45. Why make her and both of them kill themselves to make 35. Just do a 45. She's going to destroy Amanda. That's what I said. There's no, there's no, there's no place that she wins that fight. I mean, unless, unless Amanda just was able to completely stop the take down and keep it on the feet, but she's going to racetrack the octagon, the whole entire, no,

like you can't do that for 25 minutes. Um, and I. All right. What do you got you? I got peace. So back. Go ahead. Yeah, go for it. It's take a break. Cause today's episode of the fire kid with Tim Kennedy is brought to you by Viva Zen. Sometimes when the day winds down, your body's

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Hey, go get new plates, man. Like that's, that's the thing. Yeah. That's cool. Um, you know, like that, that truck right right there There's a machine gun in that truck There's body armor in that truck and they pull it they'll see my name and they're gonna be walking up like bro What's going on? You know, yeah, and they it's just a different thing. It's just but on the flip side like You get lippy you say something something slick and you've broken the law. You're going to have some problems. You're going to have some problems. I feel like that sticks to people in general.

Like they're great, open arms, welcoming, but you cross the line, man. And then you got that real Texas. Have you like walked around anywhere down here? And like, if you come up to Cedar park or you go to Leander, you go down to dripping and you're just walking, people are going to be like, Hey, morning up to Cedar park or you go to Leander, um, you go down to dripping and you're just walking, people are gonna be like, Hey, morning, what's going on? Yes. And you're like, Oh, you just, oh, you guys are nice. Yeah. You just be nice. Oh dude. First day I got here, literally the night, you know, I run in the morning.

So I was running around the, it was like five 30 in the morning. And I have my headphones in listening to something. You just see people going like this over and over. The guy goes, morning, and I didn't see him. And he's like, morning. I took him out and I'm like, what's up, man? He's like, morning. I'm like, morning.

He goes, this is going to be a great day. The fuck? That's it. I mean, I put, I was like, have a good day. I put it back. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? And then our neighbors, like, what are you, first week we're there,

they throw a block party for the kids. And I'm talking to my wife. I'm like, what do they want though? Like, what do you, first week we're there, they throw a block party for the kids. And I'm talking to my wife, I'm like, what do they want though? Like, what do you think they're gonna charge? She was like, you're an asshole in Texas. So in LA, you're a nice guy and you just gotta realize they're nice. Like they don't want anything.

No one's asked me what I've done, not one person. Even some know, but no one's been like, man, nothing, nothing. And then even when you do get recognized, it's not like LA. It's not like this like cool like posture, like, oh dude, so it's like, hey man, loved your fights. And then they move on. It's great, man. Yeah. I want to bring you the further out you get, the more people that will know you. So if you come up to the HEB Center, which is the

We have our own pro hockey team here under the AHL the American Hockey League. They just just lost In the semi-finals going to their version of the Stanley Cup great team super talented You would not be able to take two steps without somebody being like, Oh my God, what are you doing here? And they're like, they're going to hug you because that's what Texans do, you know? And then the women would be like, Oh God bless you. You are such a pleverage to watch. Great man. Like, cause I go to car shows every weekend, the car shows, all of them like, the hell are you doing here? I live here, man. Like what? And then I love it. They're like, welcome to Texas, man. They tell me where to go.

They're great, man. Yeah. It's so cool. Yeah. Lake on the lake where everybody's just like waving and saying hi nonstop. Like, Hey, what's going on? Yeah. Like the, the, the, the winds were going

around the lake. So I jumped out and there's like all these like college kids or whatever they're like pushing the boat and these guys are swinging ass and they came over to help and we're pushing Alex over and he goes, what the fuck you doing pushing the boat? I'm like, what's up man? It's like, dude, the boat needs to get out of it. Yeah. We need some, some rain though. I'm sorry that you're seeing this lake in the shape that

it's in. Yeah, I've heard. Yeah. It's, it's, it's stunning when that lake is at capacity. Dude, even yesterday, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. He was like, oh, that's is at capacity. Dude, even yesterday. It's beautiful, it's beautiful. He was like, oh, that's the sometimes island. I'm like, what's that? He's like, well, sometimes that island's not there because when the rain falls, that whole thing's gonna be covered.

Yeah, we've been getting a lot of rain the past three weeks. We need that for the next three months. Dude, the thunderstorms and lightning and no joke. So Texas weather, it's just feral. Everything's feral. Wild. And you get out a little bit and you're like, oh, this is Texas. Yes. Like stereotypes exist for a reason. Yep. Across all races, across all religions, across all cultures. Yep. They're there for a reason. They're there for a reason. And there's, there is a stereotype about Texans being Texans.

They're kind of crazy. They're kind of like the absolutely they're welcoming, but they're a little feral and you get out a little bit. You forget when you're in Austin, cause it's, it's posh, you know, it's fancy. It's like we got in good steak houses and go to true lux. We can go to Eddie V's and we go to Steiner's. We have Michelin stars. We have Uchiko. You know, we have, you know, like I got it. You can drive 30 minutes.

It's a little weird. And there's rattlesnakes that want to kill you. There's mountain lions that want to eat your face. There's bears that want everything that's inside of your truck. They don't want to deal with you. They're going to be scared of you. You know, there's going to be pigs

that you could kill a thousand of them and you haven't even made a dent. What's weird too is like with the, it's just a different type of living. I get used to it. Like everyone's pretty chill. Like even I had an issue with my Humvee about you'll love this old school 89 military Humvee. So action. It's fucking dope. I redid all of it as a power stroke engine. So in Texas, it's like, I'm driving a fucking Bugatti. Like they freak out. They see like what power stroke in a Humvee. They freak out in LA. They're like, look at that shit box, but they love it out here.

So I had to issue just, I've got some recommend it. It's just take you to the shop, drive up shop looks nice. Cause like, I forget what it's called. Guy comes out like proper Texas cowboy hat, all that shit. I explained, he's like, I'll take care of him, man. Like, all right, cool. He's like, don't worry about it. I got him my parking sign.

I don't have to worry about him. I'm like, cool, man. That was last Sunday. So on Tuesday, I don't hear from him. I'm used to LA where the guys that knock out cause of business. Tuesday comes, I call him like, hey, just checking in, man. Just making sure you're doing all right.

He was doing fine, man. What's going on? I'm like, I'm the guy that the Humvee, I dropped off. There's the issue. And he's like, yep, getting around to it. Don't worry, getting around to him. I'm like, the, I'm the guy that the Humvee I dropped off. There's the issue and he's like, yep, getting around to it. Don't worry. Get around to him. Like, right, right. Okay. Hung up Friday comes. What's up, man? Just seeing what's going on. And he just thinks I'm calling the chat. He's like talking like, right. So y'all I was calling about the Humvee and he goes,

yeah, I'm hoping to get to it this weekend, man. Got a lot of business right now. Hopefully I get to this weekend. You know, I'm hoping to get to it this weekend, man. Got a lot of business right now. Hopefully I get to this weekend. You know, I'm like, right. Is there, are you going to do it or, but he'll do it. He's going to do it. But he's just going to do it right. But there's no sense of urgency. Like LA, they're not putting up with that.

I was like, yeah, I guess it's done right. I guess, you know, I don't know. It's quirky. It's a different thing. I can't love that you're here. They're going to be so much fun. Yeah. And yeah. It's the best. All right. What do you got, Jen? Let's see. The other thing before we go, I think too, like my anxiety from LA, like it's just the hustle out there and just this and this

and this and go, go, go, go. And then here, it's like, it's like calm, like yesterday, I'm like, man, I feel like I, I told my wife, I'm like, I feel like I always gotta do something. She like, that's the LA. It's like, we're fine. She's like, calm down, you know? Yeah. Keep going.

It's just, it's just a, it's just, I just gotta get used to it. It's great. Like I was on the boat and I'm like, what time is it? And the guy's like, I don't know. Who cares? I'm like, yeah For sure. But what time is it? Yeah Being present is an art form and it's uh, in the hustle and bustle that life has been From your time as a collegiate athlete to a professional athlete, to an actor, to a comedian,

to a host, to a podcaster, to like just this litany of things of this kind of nonstop movement, but now as a husband and a father, still as an athlete, still as an entrepreneur, you know, still as a racer, like what moment am I here in the present to just be here? Only with my kids. It's the only thing that I stopped. Is that fair for you though?

I'd probably not, but I was talking to my wife about it. Is it healthy for you? It can't be. Like I've done crazy stuff. I don't remember some of it, like switching the UFC, some of the NFL, the college stuff, I remember some of it vaguely, but I was like, it was like I had blinders on me. Yeah.

So then when people asked me about it, I'm like, like even the guy was talking about like this Texas football player and he's up the street and man, he was so good. And he's talking, he played in 2006. I'm like, I played in 2006. He's like, yeah, man, I went to this game and I was like, Oh, I played in that game until he said

something. He's like, really? I'm like, yeah, I was in Kansas city. His name is Griffin, right? He's like, yeah, I'm like, oh, I played in that game until he said something. He's like, really? I'm like, yeah, I was in Kansas City. His name's Griffin, right? He's like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I blocked him like seven times. And he's like, what?

He's like, why don't you start with that? I'm like, bro, until you said something, like someone has to trigger it. Yeah. Because I was never present because it was always like, you know, what's next, get to the NFL. All right, what's next, UFC, it's this, this, this.

And some guy like was fixing something at my LA house and he's like, man, we train together. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, this. And some guy like was fixing something at my LA house and he was like, man, we train together. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, Jackson's, remember? I'm like, no, dude. But when it comes to my kids, I could tell you what games he's won and lost, strikes, great plays.

We're gonna expand this. I know, I gotta get better at it. I think out here is gonna help. Yeah. Cause I have no choice. And there's also this romantic thing about being in the West, the not California West, we're we're in the Wild West, where sunsets are a little cooler, sunrises are just a little bit more beautiful. The

the stars, if you right now, having not assimilated and acclimated to being a Texan, if I took you down to Big Bend, it's one of the quietest and darkest places in the world, and in the United States it is, and you looked up the stars, it would unnerve you. How far is that from here? 30 minutes, no I'm serious. I'll take one.

No, it's about a six hour drive. Still. And you would look up, you've never in your life, 30 minutes. No, it's about a six hour drive still and You would look up you've you've never in your life seen stars that bright and There's have Alina running across there's coyotes And then you go into marathon and there's this little beatnik super cute hotel that has an incredible barbecue place a fantastic coffee shop. Sounds awesome.

And you take what's right below us out there and you can drive. There's ranches that are 120,000 acres. Jesus. You can drive all day and never see a fence. And are you good about being present? I'm trying. But through like through your UFC days, special forces, all the crazy shit you've done for 30 years, right?

I don't even remember. I could barely remember my name. I don't think you can though. I think when you're flying at that in that gear, no, there's no present. There's no, you can't, no, you can't like appreciate certain stuff after rely. I mean, just like your stories, I had to rely on

other people to tell me like what happened in, in moments and events and I journaled for periods of times on and off and I was using those for references, but like I Don't know yeah, I don't know I can't tell you yeah, it's not good Is it I don't know I I don't know I remember my first pro fight against Scott Smith Which was like the first sanctioned bout. Scott Smith was good. He was good. First fight. Yeah. I lost it. I got cut. It's a tough fight. I had had maybe 30 fights before that, and I can't tell you anything about 30 fights.

Isn't that wild? Not concussed. I won them. But I think your brain like just is organizing things that way, you know? Like, nah, man, we gotta keep going. Don't dwell on that. Yeah. It can't be good.

No. All right. What is that big, huge scratch on your leg from? Uh, the table. No, that's this. Oh, that just happened. That just happened. That's when he saw, I was like, I'm gonna pretend

I'm not hurt cause that's a good one. That's a good one. But it, it, it really hit it good. Bro. It's fine now, but when I was walking in the bathroom, I was like, I was like, I'm gonna pretend I'm not hurt. Cause that's a good one. That's a good one. But it really hit it good. Bro. It's fine now. But when I was walking in the bath, most of all, I know dude, it was hard. It was hard. That's when you know when the box jumps and you miss and it like rakes your shins that hurt and their face and your face turns pale and you're like, you're

up. Yeah, that was a good one. I'll keep you together. Yeah. That's going to scar up without a doubt. And there's like the duality of man here on your right calf. You have this smiley face Yeah, I'm cool on the right side of that left calf and then on your right shin you have Brutal scratch This episode the fire kid is brought to you by Oh, oh, oh Riley auto parts Oh, and they're in the business of keeping your car on the road. That's what they want for you.

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11 alpha. 11. Okay. Yeah. So you know about this then? Bro, 272 people on board this flight. 271 people die. One guy in seat 11 alpha survives.

The only anomaly about this seat is that it is a window seat, even though it's in the front of the plane, but there's an air conditioning that sits out inside of it. Having gone down the AI Grock Grock, G chat GPT asking, what is the safest place seat in the flight? And then it breaks down. Okay, you're talking about fires on the flights, waterborne crashes or, um, uh, belly down crashes or nosing crashes. So I had to specify my query search. Yeah. I went down the rabbit trail hard on this thing. Cause didn't somebody else survive too sitting in it's happened

a whole bunch of times. Well, that seat's gonna be so expensive. It's not just the 11 alpha. It's, it's so statistically the best place to be seated is three quarters the way back in a middle seat. Oh, interesting. Unless it's your crash in water and then it's how close you are to the exit. So you can get out right away. There's more exits towards the front of the plane. So first class has a higher chance of survival in water or fire, but in crashes where they're

slamming into buildings, the dudes pretty much untouched that and everybody else died. Everybody died. His brother died. There's a really horrible fam picture of this family right. There's a first air and they, oh, well, it just

doesn't make sense. What was that M. Night Shyamalan movie with Bruce Willis. Um, six cents unbreakable, unbreakable. Yeah. Six cents is also good movie. Yeah. But still had nothing to do with, um, and he survived this car wreck and there's like the superhuman, like on the spectrum of humanity, right? We have marathoners and power wrestlers. We have the Brian Shaw's and the Brian Callens. We have the Brendan Schaub's and the John Jones's. And then we have Brock Lesnar's daughter.

Yeah. You know, like humans are just so, so are these like superheroes that are these not mutants but such a unique adaptation, a mutation of being human, that they can do these extraordinary things. It's like, I don't, we can't explain why this person survived. But the only thing is, is you could explain it

because it's that seat, if there's been other people that in crash. It's not in a, like, it's not a number thing. It's not like there's an 11 alpha. Is it a location? Well, the location statistically doesn't support It's not in like, it's not a number thing. It's not like there's an 11 alpha. Well, the location statistically doesn't support the middle seat, three quarters the way back that has the highest survivability, but even chat, GBT and grok went back and forth. And I was like copying pasting from each of them and making them argue with each other. And both of them were like, well, under this circumstance, in this instance, in this example, in this,

and they couldn't even figure out. And I said, in given every data available about aircraft crashes, where is the safest seat on a plane? And it couldn't do it. I know everybody's- I wonder if this is just like a once in a lifetime situation where he just somehow got fortunate

something zigged when it should have zagged and it protected him. It's just, it's so wild that it's over 200, almost 300 people and one, only one person survives. It's fairly decent. He's all but fine. I think he has survivors where Moers and this is the only thing I saw survivor guilt, man. That's something that's, yeah, that's something that's absolutely real too. It's the survivors guilt.

But yeah, so this is like a Thai singer. Apparently he had the same seat back like 20 something years ago, survived it. And then he was, as soon as he saw this, he's like, what the heck? Same seat. It's like that final destination. But I could have sworn to her. I heard other people as well saying that. See confirmation bias is a really dangerous thing where we see this outlier, this anomaly about this one number. But if you're intentionally looking for the recurrence of that 11 a and other things,

that's not a, that's not like a healthy data cross-section of what's happening. That is us looking for data that supports it. Right? Like I think for two, right? There's a confirmation bias. No, but there's like a woman's name. That's that has Karen. No, like it's, it's the Karen anomaly. Likeirmation bias, yeah. No, but there's like a woman's name that has- Karen? No, like it's the Karen anomaly.

Like are all Karens bitches? Yes. I've actually, I don't know if I know any Karens. Yeah, but what happens is like we've met a couple of Karens and then we always look for examples. But then we also look, like I'm look, oh, that's a Karen. Let me look for that girl to do something mean. Of course she's a Karen. You know, let me look for that girl to do something mean. Of course she's a Karen.

You know, like are, no, of course they're not. You know, like are all Chad sluts, you know, no, no. Like, but still exists for a reason. Yeah. You said before. Yeah. So there's, there's this on the law enforcement side where if I am looking for evidence to support this thing

where if I am looking for evidence to support this thing or this idea I have about why or how this crime went down, that's not real investigative work. Right? I have to take all the information and then that becomes evidence. Which has to be tough to do, man. Very difficult compared to like this, I'm assuming this thing happened and now I'm going to go and ask specific questions that support. Yeah. Like my, my father-in-law was a CHP for 30 years. God bless him. He'd pull over a certain kind of car and he was like, it's, I don't make the statistics. I was 83% more likely to get in a gunfight if I pulled this type of car over.

So when I pull that over, I'm on edge. Yeah. It's just the stats. Cause you're like, man, my chance to go up 80% to get my gun out. He's like, so we're on edge. If we pulled over that type of car, he's like, just what it is.

Yeah. And the human brain, you know, we, we have been conditioned to look for things out of place. We want order. This is one of the greatest things about the military is we make everything uniform. The uniform looks a specific way so I can see things that look out of place. I make all the soldiers make their beds a certain way. They have to wear their uniform 670-1, like the rules and regulations about appearance,

like how their hair is cut, like what colors they can use for, on women's side, for fingernail. So I can see when something looks off, the human condition. That's why they do it. Yeah, is predisposed to see these kind of outside of the bell curve abnormalities. And it's for self-preservation.

It's our adaptation of like, we're cruising through the woods. That doesn't look right. That doesn't look right. That doesn't smell, right? That didn't sound right. You're like, yeah, that's hardwired in our genetics for us to survive. But then there's things like this, where some dude, how often does he go to church that could help, you know, maybe it's closer to heaven than we think, you know. Or everybody on that plane or somebody on that plane had the cure for cancer or had, if you, if you've gone down this rabbit hole, how many times a scientist or an engineer around two specific things, curing cancer and renewable energy, how many times somebody has said that they have one

of those two things and then the plane crashes around those two states. Are you a big conspiracy guy? Oh yeah. But I'm batting a thousand. But you are you take that word away. First of all, that word, that phrase was designed by the CIA Correct. So and how many times has Conspiracy been in the news a bad a thousand right now. Are you I mean like

COVID hundred percent like I called everything the vaccine been right about everything But what but how far do you go with it like flat earth? No, no, no, no. September 11th? Yeah. No, no. Captain America tells me. I did not say that like 9-11 is a conspiracy theory. I think-

There's some fishy things behind it. Just like the Trump assassination was the government complicit? Absolutely. Were they intentionally negligent? Absolutely. Were they intentionally negligent? Absolutely. Were there secret service agents that were taking a guy and placing him on a roof with

a clear line of sight? No. But they turned a blind eye to it and they were privy to that happening. And if there's enough of those things that have happened, like the fires in Hawaii, the fires in Los Angeles, the like, it just took enough negligence on the, as a business owner, if I am that negligent, I am liable for being, it's as if I was complicit. Like you can sue me for me being so bad at the thing. Well, you can't do that with the government, unfortunately,

but when you look at the government's level of negligence, they have, that line has moved into them being complicit. And regarding September 11th, and I don't want to get you in any trouble, but regarding September 11th with their negligence, the point would be just to start a war. If that would get Americans on their side. Like that would do it.

Yeah. They did what? And then the other Americans like, go get them. I mean, we, we, we're knocking on it right now. Like if, if a fast, a false flag operation happens on American soil right now, and somebody is named that these Iranian radicals came and did this. Attack America's going to back America's like, go to war to Iran, right? Like, is Israel not incentivized to facilitate some

radicals doing a terrorist attack on American soil? Is the military industrial complex, the American military industrial complex, are they not incentivized to facilitate? You scare me, man. I mean, let's call a spade a spade here. I know, but. If this happens, cowboy come and protect me. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to, because they're coming for me.

That's wild, dude. Sheesh. Actually, I bet you in the next. Something's going to happen. They're going to try and, and, uh, something's going to happen. I mean, they're going to try and, and, uh, yeah. And there's just a few bad apples, maybe a few, or maybe a bunch in those systems to take a blind eye to it, because they know if it does happen,

it's actually good for business. Yep. Cause at the top, I'm sure those like if you ask Trump or any of those top guys like, what the fuck, what are you talking about? The fuck out of it. Right. But they can only clean and prune and, and, and, and cleanse and remove the

gang green that has been embedded in our system and our government for the past 50, 40 years, I mean, the, the FBI, our intelligence agencies, they have been captured entities. If you, I mean, you look at poor RFK right now, him coming into the Department of Homeland, not the health and human services. When you look at the CIA or that's mixing up to intelligence and health. If you look at Kennedy with health and human services, where he's going through Medicare, Medicaid under him, you're going through the CDC, FDA, NIH, all under him, hundreds of thousands of employees, all of them captured by the largest pharmaceutical lobbyist, the largest from the largest lobbyist

group on the planet, which are the pharmaceutical lobbyists have captured every single one of these entities. The science that we've seen for the past 20, 30 years, like the food pyramid, get fucked. Get out of here. You know, like allowing these dyes to be in our food, the use of the seed oils. What's scary is four years. It's impossible to do this in four years. Four years isn't long enough. No, that's what's scary. And, but we're on that, like the brink of fighting for the existence of American health, American security, American intelligence. And I'm just using health and human services as one example.

You go one over to like Tulsi Gabbard, the new director of national intelligence. She's also lives local. She's just such a badass, great human. That poor woman having to go through every single intelligence organization, and there's a dozen that fall underneath her. And how long these bureaucrats and professional government people, not appointed, not elected, and they want war. Like that stability and security for them and all of their jobs after their government positions where they're going to be making millions of dollars, working for the Lockheed's,

working for the Raytheon's looking like it's a busted broken system. And then let's not even get into the elected officials that are making big, huge stock purchases the night hours before closing time, the night before Israel strikes Iran. But on both sides of the aisle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not like, yeah, I'll hear you again. There's no way you way you'd be to eradicate that stuff in four years. Not not enough time Yeah, you do some damage in four years, but they're not gonna rear their ugly heads, you know So if they know this is going on and we got like then the no Kings protests right going every which way absolutely hilarious the irony and hypocrisy here where you go back five years and put your mask on, put this drug in your body. You can't ride on, um, a bus. You can't ride on a plane.

Yep. You're not allowed. I'm putting sand on skate parks. You can't walk outside and go surfing or you will be arrested. Even though the best possible thing for your health and combating COVID would be the sun and to be outside to exercise. I was in the middle of nowhere in the Santa Monica mountains. I probably rode 50 miles in the middle of nowhere. I see this. No one's out there.

I'm just out there by myself. That's what I did during COVID. And I see a Ranger truck flying down. I'm like, what the fuck happened? Maybe there's a mountain lion or something come up and I can't be out here. I'm like, what? Like, and where's your mask? I'm like, buddy, there's nobody around. Who am I going to have COVID to? The fucking bird up there? What are you talking about? He said, can't be out here, man. I was like, that's hilarious, dude. That's hilarious.

Tyrannical dictatorship applied in real time. Even they were like, we're so sorry, man. It makes no sense. But it's just, we got the call. We got to give you a ticket. And I was like, this is insane. You guys know you're doing the wrong thing. He goes, yep, let's just not catch you out here again. I will gladly pay the ticket. I will, same time, I come here every morning.

I'll be here at 9 AM, boys. They're like, all right, see you, man. Never saw him again. Didn't pay the ticket either, because I didn't have to. There's this gym owner. He was, I think he was in California, Ian Smith, is that his name? Uh, he was getting fined by the city. They said Martin, that's my good buddy. I worked out of that gym, zoo culture. He refused to pay. So they tried to shut him down, doing all that stuff. He does the, he sued the city. He actually won. Ungovernable. They dropped all of it.

This is what we're supposed to be as Americans. Like strong, independent entrepreneurs that are healthy. We carved our existence out of the wilderness. Then we had some people that come and came and said, hey, we're gonna tax you, but you can actually like taxation without representation. And then we're gonna tax this other thing and you're not gonna have a say about it.

And then what did we do? We killed them all and kick them off the count continent. It's not what we do. No, but that's, I hope Americans remember who they are. I know, man. I know. I was really scared in 2021, dude.

I was in the heart of an LA. What's crazy too is that Bradley Martin, like, you know, he's fighting the city. So he's dealing with that and they'd send random people in all the time to sabotage things, but the businesses around him were sabotaging them. They want them to get shut down too. Cause they refuse to stay open. We had neighbors not, not here calling and telling

on other neighbors. Like I saw him go outside without his mask. And that wild dude, there's some bitch shit. Yeah. I, uh, I always wondered how a little girl that was writing in her diary up in an attic during World War II, who ultimately went to Auschwitz and was murdered

by insane, murderous, disgusting humans. How did that society turn where a little girl had to go up and hide in an attic? In that wild, how did they get there? And then we saw it. Scary, dude. That was a weird time too. I remember I was in LA when they made the mass mandate. I started laughing like this. I told my wife, I'm like, this hilarious. You think the American citizens are going to put up with this? So I'm walking down the street and I see people wearing them like, oh, oh no, oh no.

I'm the, I'm the only one. Yeah. So I go to the same coffee shop, 10 speed coffee every morning before the shows. When I worked for a show time, my student in Santa Monica, I walk in and then literally I was there for four years. She would see me every morning.

I get the same thing, just a black coffee with two shots, a red eye. And I walk in, I'm like, she has her mask. I'm like, Hey, how's it going? She's like, good, good. And I'm like, she's like the usual. I'm like hey how's it going? She's like good good. And I'm like she's like the usual like yep and the security guard goes big dude black guy Probably 6'6 out of shape though Goes uh, so I need you to put your mask on

I know no not happening dude, because then you're not getting that coffee. It was the only time I'm like, oh shit Oh, oh man, the the beast has broken. I went buddy, I promise you I'm getting my coffee. He goes, no you're not. I said, here's what's gonna happen, dude. I'm gonna get my coffee, just like I do Monday through Friday, and then if you have an issue with it, you can meet me in the back,

and I will fuck you up, dude. And he's like, all right. So I'm like, oh shit, he's down. And the manager knew who I was, and she was like, Terry? She's like, Terry, I'm telling you, you're gonna fight over not wearing a mask for a cup of coffee. Like what happened to a wild disease? This is me. I don't fight anybody. I'm like go to this dude's down. Hell. Yeah for the for this to stand on

My rights and my freedom fuck I'm gonna fuck this dude up and I was so nervous. I'm like ready to go I'm like, alright in my head. I'm like, I don't hurt my hands get a head kick him I'm looking there's cameras in the back. I waited for 10 minutes, waited. He never came. And then I went back to that coffee restaurant, that shop every day during COVID with no mask. And he sat there and just didn't look at me. I'm like, you're such a coward, man. Yeah. What, what, what happened? What I want, I want to under the psychology side, I wish Jordan Peterson was sitting right here because I want to understand the psychology side, I wish Jordan Peterson was sitting right here, because I want to understand what this contagion is.

And it was contagious, because you saw it spread like a virus where people were, it's in one group or one tribe, or one or two people, it would happen with them. And I get it, it was usually fear-based. Maybe they knew somebody that was compromised immunity immunity wise and they died of COVID or there's, and then that was back to confirmation bias. That was the excuse. And then you're a killer that's killing their friends because you wouldn't wear your mask. And you're the enemy. You're the problem.

And immediately it was flipped. The script had been flipped. It broke families, dude. Like you and my family, like we had a family when we were coming and. I have an uncle that won't talk to me. Same, same. And he came. I love him. He hasn't seen his grandkids. He hasn't seen, you know, my children or nothing

came to the house. He had a mask on. I'm like, you can't come in with all that, man. He's like, good, I'm not coming. Right? But that's fine. It's insane. Yeah.

Cause my kids and Timothy, it says that we were not born or made with a spirit of fear, but of sound mind and discipline. Like, like my kids are not going to know fear, you know, like he's going to get the butterflies when it's like, they just lost a championship this weekend and like again, made it to the finals. How's he handle losses? Not great.

Yeah. He hates them. Yeah. Crying. Frustrated. That's like, that means he cares. Yeah. Yeah.

It's all the right thing. That's all the right. I tell my wife, cause same, my son don't let the process happen. Yeah. If he's crying, he's upset because he cares. Yeah. Now if he was going around like dad, when you get

an ice cream, what are you doing playing with his buddies? Like he doesn't care. You want him to care. But I do support even if he's upset, he's upset because he cares. Now if he was going around like, dad, you getting ice cream? What are you doing playing with his buddies? Like, he doesn't care. You want him to care. But I do support, even in a loss, like do you want to go get ice cream? No. Now we're actually going to go get something

because I saw how hard you tried. Correct. You know, like we're going to go celebrate because how hard you worked. 100%. You know, like I saw you force that turnover. I saw you grit. I saw those defensemen coming and double teaming you, you know, like,

that's what I saw. Yeah. No, I, we have a policy where, unless it's something horrific, but, or if it's something crazy, we don't talk on the ride home about baseball. Talk about everything else, but baseball. He knows we did wrong, You know, you know. That's not my job. You know, it's not my, that's his thing.

We don't talk. Flip, last weekend, we were in Dallas and game one, the coach pulled him off the field because he was not hustling. He was not trying. And I was like, we're going to get all your stuff. We're driving home. He's like we have four more games The thought of in bear the embarrassment. Yeah, I was like I did not drive

I did not bring your five-year-old sister four hours in the car to sleep in a plate up like there's some Tournaments where you have to stay at the hotel that you know, like we don't be that weird parent stays in the plush Oh, yeah, you're not even allowed to like your name has to be on the Reservation if you're an out-of-town family and it's it's a state of play Like the requirement the state to play you have to stay here. You have to have a room. It's kind of a Little shady and it's not a nice hotel So I'm sitting here, you know a family of four With a five-year-old a ten 10 year old, my wife after driving four hours

and then my son's out there not putting out effort. Oh, but that's when you'll see me, Matt. Now you'll see a dad. Correct. And that is my place. Now I'm up. Yep. Go get your stuff. Yes. We're packing up. We're going home. And he's like, now he's shaken.

I'm like, well, if you're emotional now, then I want to see that emotion in front of the coaches. If you fighting to get on the field, you're playing, you're in a, you're in a AAA elite. They're not going to play you unless you deserve field time. Wreck time, we get equal field time. This is my, my, my side. I said, dude, when it comes to the, the, the scale of it, you strikeouts, I can't, that shit happens. But if they tell you to run sprints and you come in last, that's when I show up. Cause that's an effort thing. I don't mind, if you're trying your hardest,

we're good at all times. Cause if you're trying your hardest, it's just being pretty tough to beat. When you start half-assing it, well then Papa Bear comes in. That's where I come in. And I'm not gonna fix it in front. We're gonna go home and we're gonna fix it. Oh no, too. I'll bear comes in. That's right. And I'm not going to fix it in front. No, no. We're going to go home and we're going to fix it. Oh no, too. Yeah. I'll buy get in the car. Yeah. Get in the car. Yeah. We come around bag. Absolutely not.

Yeah. But I love that we have this in common. Dude, I watched him out there and he played six games last weekend. It was a hundred something degrees. It had rained humidity. I don't even know what it was. He's in lacrosse pants and he bought, he was a baller, you know, and, um, and I will wear, I will carry that bag to the car with the stroller, with the, with the little Wheeler thing. Okay. The one-year-old whatever you want, man. Yep. If you, if you do, yeah, dude. And it's not a lot of, that makes me cry the kiddo. Yeah. He balls out dude. I'll start crying Yeah, there's nothing the best thing i've ever done. Yeah, I was I was in I'm into my jen if you oh my lacrosse

Yeah, you'll see me driving up last weekend to dallas. I love it and his headphones his headphones on dude He's sitting there. He sleeps with his lacrosse stick I fucking love it and I looked over at him and I I mean I started crying in the car. I had to like, you know, cause he hasn't seen me much. So I had to like look away to, so he couldn't see me. Um, on your Instagram? Yeah. Yeah. A little bit more down. Not this one. Nope. Yeah. I post a lot. That's probably not healthy. Oh, there's that boxing ring right there. No, yeah, I love it.

Yeah. That's him. Yeah, you'll see it. He's in his car and his truck. Nah, we're past it. I don't know. Past it? Yeah, we passed it.

I loved it though. Loved it. Loved it. Dude, all the feels. Nothing better. Nope, all the effort. It's what I live for now. I tell my son all the time, you know,

when it comes to effort. Wait, wait, that's it. Go back down. The one in the blue shirt on the left. Yep. Okay, give me a sec here. So holding his baby and listening to his jams. So...

My kingdom come My kingdom come Just locked in So Just locked I think i'm losing it man. I could barely i'm about to lose it. Nothing better. No, nothing better. Yeah, nothing better brother. It's and I can't uh, I you know every I'm every, I have two grown daughters. I missed this thing, this whole phase of this life. It was peak war. I get it. And they get it. They're so, I love you girls. They're adults now, you know, like one of them's married, one of them's like living this epic life. And I'm so proud of them. But like, I never had this with them.

You know, I missed 90%, 95% of their ballet recitals, their figure skating moments, their performances. And- The thing is, boy, did you miss out. Yeah. The guilt. My God, did you miss out. Yeah.

You know, but now you had no choice and you were doing the right thing. I had to. You had to do what you had to do. But just for you, selfishly it's like, oh boy, did you miss out? We've done some cool shit. Man, there's nothing better, dude. They're the most beautiful, incredible women on the planet

and I missed every moment. Crazy, right? Yeah. But at least you had to do with that, man. Yeah. And boy, like I see him and I go, we got one. You know what I'm saying? Like I see him and that's why I always ask, how's he doing?

How are you doing the game? We got one. I looked at my wife, get emotional, talk about it. Been counting on her, we got one. We fucking got one. It's the first, first eight year old at home and out of this park. I looked at her and went, we got one. Then dude fucking Kobe Bryant, Bryant talking about his daughter, you know, God bless his soul.

When they're asked about, Hey, are you gonna have a son? And he's like, have you seen V? We got those were almost his exact same words. Brandon, we got one. You know, I could do it. You don't worry about it. And then she steps up and she's like, yeah, you don't worry about it. I got this. He did, gives me chills. Yeah. Monster.

She was, he was, you are, they will be. And that is the beauty and the responsibility. And I hope, and I think the pendulum in a really unhealthy way had swung so far to like the self realization,ization, self-exploration, this entitlement of idea that like I'm living through life for me to experience things for me. But then in truth, in reality, not this, not this existential idea, but, but a provable experiential fact that these experiences are made through acts of selflessness for

others. Yep. And that moment is so special because it was him. The best. Being present. The best. Yeah. The best.

The best. So that, that, that the culture or that the conventional wisdom of that pendulum swinging from selfish back to selfless, where people are valuing families again, where it hasn't swung all the way back. No, it's not all the way. It's getting there though. In Texas, I don't know if it ever went away.

It did a little bit. Cause now I'm here, like especially the other dads, I'm like, oh my God, we're all the same. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh shit. Yeah. It's the best dude. And you're standing like this when uh, at practice you could go and take a photo and you see Zach Kaz like all the lacrosse dads were all standing here like watching every single movement, not saying anything, you know, like a look over like, yeah, how was your weekend? Oh, it's so great. Like we're out on the lake, you know, the boys I got to do cook some fajitas, you know, like I'll look over like, yeah, how's your weekend? Oh, it's so great. Like we're out in the lake. You know, the boys I got to do cook some fajitas, you know,

and I was like, yeah, how'd you do the meat? He's like, why vacuum sealed it? You know, and it was the such dad. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I was like, you know, when the dad's about his, he brings a chair. I can't sit in chairs because I pace, you know, I just can't sit down when he's playing and I'm like, man, that's a nice chair. And he's like, oh, and they're going through the type of chairs they sit in.

And I left, I'm like, holy shit, I'm getting older, man. Like we're talking about chairs. It's great. There's nothing better. Jenna, so we got a lot, I got to drag you around to some of the places around here. Hell yeah, dude. Not, but one mile from where we're sitting right now,

there's a place called Rogue American Apparel that's owned by Wes Whitlock. And he has two Connex metal Connex shipping containers. Like the rogue fitness. Yeah. Like them. Oh yeah. I know rogue. And we have the Atlas stones. We do McConaughey and the barbarian. Oh yeah. He like lifted that thing and carried that wheel around. We got one of those that we can put a thousand pounds on. That's like the strongman. Yeah. Yeah. We all the pole bars, all the dumbbells, all the, all the bar bells, all the weights,

all the things, but it's outdoors. There's no air conditioning. It's metal connexes sitting on land one mile from here and it gets dark. Like we, cause it's, it's. Yeah, so the bugs are in your face Everything's dirt is like moon sand powder You know, but real quick back to the I know I have some friends in my life where they're not as hands-on Or they don't get it or the kids not into sports. I'm like man boy. boy, you missing out. Yeah. Man, are you missing out? Man, telling you you're dropping the ball, dude.

There's nothing you're able, whatever achievement you get to, you think in entertainment, whatever you're in, I'm telling you, nothing's gonna beat that. No. And you're missing the boat, man. If I have to tell you that, it's too late. I was traveling yesterday, got home super late and I was going to brag

on my wife for a second. Poor woman just flew in from Colorado from the lacrosse tournament with the five year old and the 10 year old without me present and flights delayed hour on the tarmac waiting for takeoff landed gates not open had to sit again on the runway for an hour Checked bags with all the lacrosse gear right she makes it home They've been traveling and he had three or two three games that day Before they get on the plane in Colorado and fly back to Austin and then I land and it's Father's Day Still dresses dresses out like a sexy perfect white. I got one.

I got one. I got one. That's right. And it makes working hard so easy. Yep. When you get like moments like this, the best. A woman like that.

You got it, man. Yep. You got it. You did it. This is it. You fucking did it. Yeah. Oh, do you see that a quad pitcher on the right?

Okay. So that's an M1 Abrams tank in front of the Washington monument. And that's constitution with our American troops walking right down it. On the right hand side is American equipment at a parade in Afghanistan being driven by the Taliban after we left. And I don't, I could have said it more succinctly, but I wanted to paint this picture

of what does strength look like. Obviously they're both military parades, but the difference is this is us on full display on our soldier, on our, with our soldiers on our land, with our equipment. And then inversely the complete opposite end is the Taliban using our stuff and projecting to the world weakness on the left is strength on the left is deterrents on the right is incompetent. Wow. Yeah. That was so crazy. It's so cool. So cool.

Yeah. It's gonna be so fun. Oh, so this is that fitness competition right in front of the Washington monument on the mall is so sick. That gives some motivation. Can you go back to, um, the page, your page. Yeah. Go back to the mainstream score down. All right. Uh, on the far hand,

on the right, I think. Yeah. Go up one more. Yeah. That one. All right. Yeah. So that's me on the assault bike. That's them deadlifting the 500 pounds and I can't start until they start dead lifting. And then after five reps, they have to hold it until I get to that's one of six events. And all of us have to go through that the whole entire time. So it's 500 pound deadlift amongst five guys, four guys. Four guys. So that thing weighs 500 pounds. Just looks awkward as shit. Yeah, it's terrible. And you have to work timing wise in unison. So clean. Do you still get sore?

Yeah, I'm old. I know, but you know, it's always doing. I don't think you get sore if you, if you stay with it. Yeah. If you stop, you feel the pain. That's why my first day at Jiu Jitsu is going to be sore. No matter what I've been doing. Yeah. Yeah.

Welcome it. Ways to Wales and figure it out. Yeah. The, um, at least you're going to be at like the, so that guy in the middle right there, that's Mike Weimer. That's the secretary of the VA, Doug Collins. Litter taking off his shirt to put on an army. He's the secretary of the VA in the middle of the mall,

taking off his clothes to put on an I support He's the secretary of the VA in the middle of the mall taking off his clothes to put on an I support army shirt. And look at all these studs. That guy is a former unit member from Delta Force leading the whole entire CrossFit workout. Just savage. I'm sure the troops are fucking stoked that it's going. They're about it. Look at these guys. They're just beautiful. that it's going to be. They're about it. Look at these guys. They're just beautiful.

And that's him right there, Mike Weimer. That's so cool, man. Obviously I'm like, I'm still in the high post event where it's like, it just gets your heart going. I'm so proud to be an American. I'm proud to wear the uniform. Cool. And guess what those Luke and Michelle

and Frankie and Gordon got paid to come out. Nothing. Nothing. Yeah. Not a dime. No. Couple of people helped cover their travel. This company, Turbo Vets was helping get them like flights

and room and board and then Smith and West and the gun company. Oh great. Like help cover flights. Yeah, that's cool. It's crazy. That's how it should go. Yeah. Well, Tim, I love you brother. I love you. You're the best man. We could do six hours. This is easy work. All day long. Appreciate you brother. Tim Kelly ladies and gentlemen. This is the

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