The Fighter & The Kid - We Tried To Debunk Jonathan Otto | TFATK Ep. 1199

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

Jonathan Otto returns to The Fighter and The Kid for one of the most controversial health conversations we've ever had.Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen challenge Jonathan on red light therapy, Joe Rogan's experience with red light, methylene blue, cancer research, urine therapy, nicotine, COVID theories, mitochondrial health, photodynamic therapy, and more.Can red light therapy improve recovery, energy, eyesight, and overall health? What does the latest research say? And why are so many people talking about biohacking, mitochondria, and alternative wellness treatments?Topics include:Joe Rogan and red light therapyCancer treatment discussionsMethylene BlueUrine therapyNicotine researchCOVID theoriesBiohackingMitochondrial healthLongevityWellness optimizationTaskrabbit - When life happens, your to-do list grows. Get ahead of it now and get fifteen dollars off your first task at http://taskrabbit.com/ or on the Taskrabbit app using promo code FIGHTER.QUO - Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://www.quo.com/FIGHTERO'Reilly - Stop by O’Reilly Auto Parts today or visit us at oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER that’s oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERProgressive - See if you could save when you switch to Progressive. You’ll feel good about making a savvy choice. Visit https://www.progressive.com/ and see if you can enjoy a little extra cash back.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is really the fighter and the kid. Come on, baby. Jonathan Otto, you came to my attention to my friend Jay, and I watched some of your stuff. I'm very skeptical. Yeah, I'm skeptical of all things that are non-conventional, as people know. But I will say this, Red Light, Rogan, Joe's pretty, you know, he's pretty evidence-based.

And Joe swears by Red Light instead. Joe's also a little bit like me. Yeah. We'll try really anything, the new fads, stuff like that. Brian's more, you know how when you grew up in school, they had the food pyramid? Yeah, yeah. He still swears by that. Well, so you're just old school.

Like, he believes in government and not conspiracies. I'll tell you, I'll tell you, but I'll tell you why. Right. But I'll tell you why. And I'm not so. I'm going to give you my, I'm going to give you my thing. But first, let me just say that one of the things Rogan said is that looking into red light, like looking at red light with his eyes has got him to a point where he doesn't need

reading glasses. What I did. I'm in that point where I need reading glasses. No, but if you saw Rogan before he did red light, when we were doing the pods, we'd be going to dinner, he would get the menu and he put his glasses on and he had to put shine a light on it. Yeah. Look older, but me too.

And then now, since done red light, last time I was on the pod, he's normal. He's like, yeah, red light, dude. Crazy. So when I see that, when I see that with my own eyes, I'm like, something's going on here. So red light's got to work, at least in some measure for some things. Yeah. Can it grow here? Yeah, of course.

Bro. Come on, bro. We found it. Come on, come on. We found it. But my thing about- But John. You look so young?

Yeah, I mean, that's ridiculous. He's 40. He's 40. When he came in, I thought you, you know, I was like, this young kid, you know, he's enthusiastic about this red light district. You know, it's like, I literally thought you in your 20s. By the red light district is a different thing than in therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, like, everyone looks at themselves and sees like, all your imperfections. So I don't see it, but thank you for seeing it. But let me just give you my perspective on things. Like I tend to trust what it, most of what's mainstream because I benefit from it.

Because all of us benefit from like, so my phone works, the electric grid works. I get food because there's a whole system and network that brings food to my house. And so most of what we benefit from, if I get staff from jujitsu, I can go to a doctor

and they give me antibiotics that will take care of it. Otherwise, I would lose my arm. So there are a lot of things I see that do benefit people. Children, blood cancers and children, we've made huge progress, stem cell therapy. There's a lot of really amazing therapies out there that are being contributed by mainstream science. Now, that doesn't mean some things are mismanaged, the way they mismanaged COVID, the trans movement, all that stuff.

Some of it is craziness, right? But when you talk about stem cells and peptides, remember, there's a big backlash with the big government, the big pharmacies who don't want that. It's less than that bubble. I think part of it, if I may, the thing about peptides, I'm not saying it don't work and I'm not saying there isn't benefit. But one of the things I notice about peptides, and people will admit this, is there's very little human control data. A lot of it's done on mice. Now, they're working on it. It's true. Yeah, it is true. I've looked into it pretty deeply. And now they're, you know, maybe there will be more on human trials, but for the most part, a lot of this stuff is been around a long time, but, a lot of it has been done on rats but not humans. And so there's a lot of that out there. Red light since 1903. That's when the Nobel Prize was won for light therapy reversing disease by Niels Riberg Finston.

1903, yeah, but was it, did he win a Nobel Prize? Look that up. Did he win a Nobel Prize for light curing disease? I don't think so. Yes, yes he did. Lubas vulgaris. Really? Oh, you think you know. Let's see. Oh, let's see. This is all this guy does. Let's see. Is the most common form of... Neals Riberg-Finson.

Yeah, F-I-N-S-E-N. Your skin looks good too. Look at him. Let's see. He's 1903. Yeah, so this was light therapy to reverse Lupus vulgaris, ultraviolet light. He was a Danish physician and founder of modern

phototherapy awarded the 1903 Nobel Prize in physiology or medicine for treating diseases, specifically skin tuberculosis, using concentrated light rays. He developed the Finson lap, which is UV light to kill bacteria and cure skin infections. But that's UV light, not red light, right? Correct. Yeah, that's right.

Like, so, yeah, you'll notice I said that. But Hungarian physician, Dr. André Mester, in the 60s, then he was the one that very much, you know, pioneered and pushed towards the red light. But so did John Harvey Kellogg, who then pioneered back off what Finson was doing, and they were using incandescent balls, very similar to chicken lamps.

And they actually do work. pretty good. They're decent. Not as high power, but there's something there. So what's the difference between red light and UV light? Yeah, so UV light, ultraviolet light, it's the nanometer, sorry, ultraviolet would sit around like three, 400, then it goes into blue is that 480. Once you get into 600 nanometers, that's when it's like bright red, like what I showed you before. 800 is near infrared, up to 1100. That's invisible. And, and that's, That's this whole spectrum. And so you'll get a high concentration at the sunrises and sunsets.

That's why you mentioned eyesight. If you look into the sunrise, it'll improve eyesight. And the reason is also because of the time in the day, get this, right? University College London test people for this. They get them to open their eyes, look directly into red light, 6, 70 nanometer light. They test it in the morning and the afternoons. They do three minutes.

They do 45 minutes up to afternoon does nothing. Three minutes in the morning, 17% improvement in eyesight immediately. So we're biologically engineered for that time in the day. It's a circadian rhythm. Interesting. Yeah. They say that. They say the first thing to do is get out in the sun and look at, you know, get light in your eyes.

Yeah. And, you know, testicles or, you know, anywhere. You're supposed to sun your shitter. Yeah. Remember that trend? But then also, like UV light gets a bad rap too because, you know, skin cancer. staying out in the sun, but the most deadly cancers usually are related to UV. It's not from the sun.

Well, it's the opposite, right? So it's all these areas that are hidden, right? So that never see the sun are the most likely to get aggressive skin cancers. And the UV is super healthy for you, but as long as you're not getting like damage to the skin, like sunburn, but being out in the sun, people think, oh, I got put all this sunblock on. It's actually doing it the wrong way. Right. Heavy metals will like make, like people got heavy metals in them.

So now when your skin gets exposed, it's going to burn. And then seed oils are going to cause your skin to burn. And so that you become like a vampire. You're like allergic to sun because of the toxins that are in your body that are causing that. It's crazy, right? Depends on like the melon in your skin too, right? Like my son's pretty white, so he'll get burnt pretty quick. But he's in the sun all the time.

It's good for him. Yeah. It's good for kids. Yeah, and the red light will help that a lot. One, if they ever get burnt, it'll be the best thing to help reverse the burn so they don't peel and things like that. You'll see that. That's super cool. The other thing is that it's going to cause them to absorb more of the vitamin D. The red light, even though it's not directly stimulating. Like red and neuroferred doesn't directly create vitamin D, but it creates a system in your body that allows you to take more of the vitamin D from the sun. And anyway, it just makes people more. robust and they'll find that they burn less because their body is just utilizing that energy properly because it's all to do with mitochondria and the light receptors in the mitochondria. They're called mitochondrial chromophores and they're receiving light to produce cellular energy and when cells have energy they could do everything and if they can't they can't do what they need to do and that's going

to mean just everything falls apart gradually versus repair. And I think red light's so big right now because obviously we want the energy, we want all this stuff. But then you got all like the cairns and the hot moms out there, they want it for the, for the skin, for the young, the youth. Women do that with their, that's why it's so, the carins. That's why it's so big. They wear the red light masks, right? Yeah, they do that or like at Ways to Well, they have a whole red light booth booth. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what they're using it for, you know, the looks. And so, there's so many benefits. But it doesn't, it doesn't like burst the skin cells the way UV does, right? It doesn't like, it, it doesn't have the same effect on the skin. Yeah. It, it's, it's, I'm still trying. It's, it's, I'm still

trying to figure out what red light does. Yeah. Okay, so it turns out that our body is needed, and then you could go back to like the Bible and Genesis would let there be light. Interesting Genesis 2 then says, God breathe into atoms, nostrils, nostrils, the breath of life, and then became a living soul. There's this interesting connection between light and oxygen. I'll tell you the number one reason really why red light is working is it's making your cells breathe. It's activating an enzyme in the cells called cytochrome C oxidates that causes cellular respiration. Why do you breathe so much? It's because your cells need to breathe. And so your health is determined mostly on how good your oxygen is in your body and your ability to produce it

and these other related gases like nitric oxide and reactive oxygen. That's what is causing, for example, your body to turn over all the disease cells is your body's ability to produce reactive oxygen that will go kill them as well as they'll go kill parasites as well. That's why people are using red light with methylene blue because it's called antimicrobial photodynamic therapy and it's shutting down these circulating tumor cells. Who's doing the research on this stuff?

Well, there's close to 10,000 studies. It's most of the big universities, a lot of the big universities at least. A lot in Europe, I mean, The Lancet oncology study, 413 men, that was University College London again. Oh, Lancet did a study on it? Well, they published in Lansing. What about Red Light?

Yeah, it was, I mean, it was close to 400% increase in putting prostate cancer in remission in the Red Light Group with 413 men. No way. 49% go into remission in the Red Light Group, 13.5% in the non-redlight group. No, it's not Lancet University, Lancet's a medical job. Yeah, go put in 413. Look at this. This is from the Lancet.

Hold on. This is a big deal. So the Lancet for you guys is a very, very reputable medical journal. It's like the, it is probably the most prestigious. And what that means is if you put something in the Lancet and they publish it, it means it has peer reviewed studies. You can't just put anything in the Lancet. They have a very, very strong vetting process.

So it says a 2026 Lancet study finds that light therapy or PBM is a promising non-pharmaceutical tool for pain management. What? Though current evidence is limited, but by inconsistence results in studies, other studies published in Lancet journals explore red light for treating COVID-19 brain fog and improving sleep quality

through respectively improved mitochondrial function. Whoa, that's wild, dude. That's wild. I mean, that's a ringing endorsement right there. It is, and their statement there that it's mixed, like I'll... You're right. It works by enhancing mitochondrial function,

reducing inflammation, wound healing, skin rejuvenation and eye health. I am, I'm kind of sold right now. Yeah, that's awesome. Brian's in. Right? But, I mean, that's the Lancet. Yeah, I didn't eat that. Yeah, and that's it.

You should. Yeah, and put in the prostate cancer study. Just put in prostate cancer, 413, and it'll give you that, because it's the number of people in the study. Man, you came with receipts, bro. I was all ready to fucking call you out on this shit. Bro, I'm sorry. But then again, by the way, hey, look how good he looks. Yeah, you ain't ready.

Like your skin. No, look at his skin and his hair. I agree. All right. Some studies and research issues involved, yeah, involve the number of 413 in prostate cancer. Key findings from recent research indicate that a new targeted agent, blah, blah, blah, combined with photodynamic therapy and chemotherapy, shows high effectiveness in targeting and killing prostate cancer cells in preclinical studies. Yeah. Damn.

So then look at the results. See, the 413 man. going down. And, all right, I want to see that. Put in BBC, because then what we're just put in the title there, BBC, and we'll just get truly transformative is what they say, right? There we go. And then we'll see, yep.

And this will be funny, right? When, oh, I think it's funny. You'll see if you think it's funny. But it's not actually very funny. It's really depressing. And drugs made from deep sea bacteria to eliminate tumors, but without causing severe side effects. So that's photodynamic.

shit they're doing, dude. Dude, and then have a look. T trials of 430-Men published in the Lancet Oncology, which is the most prestigious thing, showed nearly half of them had no remaining trace of cancer. I'm getting that thing on my dick right now. Yeah, it did. Is that the move?

Yeah, yeah. But think about this, right? The fact that everything is systemic, right? So your penis is connected to everything else and your blood flow and everything. So then when people just think about it, like isolate up, just doing it. here, they should get it over, especially all their organs, like head to groin air, especially

into their brain, especially into directly into the eyes, but, you know, do your own research. But like, keep going down and you'll find that, so the 49% of the group that do the red light, and look, they didn't change their diet. They didn't take Ivermactant. They didn't take other possible tools there. So, yep, keep going up. That's really impressive. And I like this. And then 13.5% in the control group up, up a little bit more. And so then, and the he guy, He says, I feel, look at him. So six percent. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, but look at that. 47 hospitals across Europe, 49% go into remission, 13.5%. So that's 360% exactly if you want the exact number. So 6% of the patients in the red light group got prostate surgery, prostate removed. Of the non-red light group, 30%. Got it. So that's 500% difference.

And then now look at, and those, and no men had significant side effects after two. years. And if you look up of the people that get surgery for prostate cancer, nine out of ten become impotent. And so look at him. Gerald Capone, 68 says, I feel incredibly lucky to have been used in this trial. And I'm totally, I can't say that word, C-U-R-E-D from and free from the big C. Oh, you're not allowed to say these words. Because you'll get, we'll get flagged. Well, it's just, it's tricky. Because I'm saying a lot of things together. But that's what he said. and but you could see it. It's pretty awesome, right?

I mean, I'm looking at it. And what I think is... When I see these kinds of, like, really reputable journals, yeah. It's really hard to argue with because, again, like, the vetting process is no joke.

They look at some serious stuff. You know, there's a lot of bullshit out there in general, right? People are selling stuff. I mean, but you also came in here often and we're talking about P. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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because you fought with certain guys that drank their own urine yeah famously i remember leotumachito used to talk about it yep he drank his own urine that you trained with you and he had to come out say he stopped doing it because he got so much backlash. Yeah. But his family, the Machita family, would drink their urine. They'd, like, put in the refrigerator and you drink it. Please explain that shit, because I'm never doing that. Ah, well.

Up this in your mouth right now. What? Yeah, dude. I'm just trying to help. Make sure you're super hydrated, though. Yeah, do. My thing is, with going to the urine, I want to know how the hell, who was like, man, we better look into this urine.

Oh, of course. Will everyone? Well, okay, well, okay. I will say you are a ringing endorsement because he looks every bit of 23. Yeah, if you look like shit, it'd be a hard time. Like if I was in here going, guys, at the end of the day, if you want to look like me, you'd be like, oh. You look good, man.

Yeah, I mean, if I was eating. It's like when a fat guy's giving you tips on like health, you're like, buddy, buddy. Yeah. Okay. Or a life coach who's got two roommates. Yeah, yeah. Or a skinny guy in the gym. Like, you should try this.

Like, I'm all set. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, exactly. We all thrive and fail in some area in life. right. Yeah.

Yeah. So the urine. Okay. Yeah. So when I say everyone, what I mean is that most of the, basically all of the world made major cultures all did it in some way, right? So whether it was Egyptian, Roman, Greek, Jewish, Taiwanese, Indian, Chinese. Everybody at one point drank some of their kids.

You know, it's in their cultures. No, not just the warriors, but like, okay, you know, Jews used it for the bubonic place. Like, they, they was so. Like a rumor, bro. No, well. You're gonna tell this guy. It's in. We got to put it, but put it in.

Bringing it up, chin. Yeah, you have, okay, you have to understand that people knew this because it was in, it was part of biology. Like it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't baby, babies drink a liter of urine a day in the womb. A leader, like 90% of amniotic fluid is urine. 10% is fetal lung fluid. Okay. So now, urine has then become the most single studied substance in modern medicine. R. Kelly's like, yeah, bro.

Consent is king. Consent is king. And Trump's like, yeah, that he's still in trouble. But if he had consent, then he'd have another story. And if the girl wasn't 14, he was doing for help. Oh, yeah, there you go. Okay. Thank you for refreshing my details.

Yeah. She's not the only one who got the golden shower. And also remember Trump with the golden shower. I think there might be a health kid. That turned up all bullshit. That was the steel dossier. Or he was trying to help them out. Yeah, right.

If you think about it. So going on your... Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, yeah, so... Your body is producing antibodies continually to whatever you're poisoned with. And I've seen this.

I saw it two years ago in Kenya. I was this girl, 14-year-old, got bitten by what the local said was a deadly scorpion. And I watched her like this on the ground, like fading. And I said, this is what I would do. I like, please do it. I, I mean, I'd been doing it at that point. And this is

why I'm saying to you probably because you say, I'd never do that. Dude, what if you got bitten? Now you've heard this story. She came out of it like nothing happened to her asking me if we could you know, give her some shoes. From the antibiotics in the in the urine. Yeah, the antibodies, the anti-venom that's in the year. And I thought it was just all waste and you, that's why you're pissing it out. There's no way. Okay, think about this. It's such a like, it's a hardcore, atheistic concept to think that somehow the body's in so much chaos that it dumps waste through urine when it dumps every neurotransmitters in your urine, every hormone is in your urine, everything that's in your blood is in your urine. So why would your body release the things

that you're deficient in? Doesn't make sense. Okay, now Wake Forest University, NIH take... Have I heard of it? NIH, yeah, they take a grant. Well, NIH give them a grant. Wake Forest used it to fund a urine-derived stem cell study. They collect a heart. 140 stem cells in a 24-hour urine sample from each of the 10 adult males. They replicate these 10 times over it. They let it age for three weeks. It goes to 100 million at a rate of one times 10 of the power of it.

You're an age. 100 million stem cells. Do you understand now what's happening in the womb? Why the stem cell is getting used for knee injections? Yeah. It's amniotic fluid. What's amniotic fluid? It's urine.

It's filtered blood. It's a concentration of stem cells. And that's how you were formed in the womb. What do you think happens? Like if I took a heart on a scaffold and had some of the material, genetic blueprint of the heart, if I put a stem cell on it, it would form into the heart. And what do you think is happening when you're urinating every one to three hours in the womb

and it's filled with stem cells? And it's going all through your digestive system. You can look up, urine is formed. urine forms the lungs at around 10 to 12 weeks. So it goes in through the mouth and nose. It's we're actually, it's living water. Like the Bible is interesting. It talks about living water.

I'm not saying that that's necessarily urine, but it's a concept to think about that there's way more to this than what you've been told. So how often are you drinking urine? Every day. And you're just pissing like a frosty mug and then... Yeah. Yeah, first morning urine, I'll just pinnick up and...

No. And how much are we drinking like a whole... Every... Because I'll feel up but fucking... Because you're dehydrated, that's why. Well... I don't know. You might be right, yeah.

All I do is drink soda. We're all dehydrated, though. That's the thing. I've seen people reverse the dehydration issue. I did. I drank two gallons of water a day and still felt like I was dying. That was, I haven't talked about this much. That strips the water. I know, but if you have to, you have to. Like, if you feel like you're dying, your body's, I didn't have hypochondria. And as soon as I started drinking urine, then it, I mean, think about it. Urea is practically the only

clinically proven skin moisturizer, okay, because it puts water back into the cells. Urine is your own blood filtered, okay? It's gone through your kidneys. So then it absorbs and And so how much you, how much pee do you drink? Let's get down the fuck. Okay, let's talk about that. You know, you're definitely, your body does shit and piss. Yeah, because would you rub shit on your face? No, but the babies don't, don't have any bowel movements in the womb at all. Just urine.

Okay. They're not eating. They're just drinking urine. Okay, so explain that to me, Brian. How do the babies live in that environment if they're dumping their waste through their urine? I don't know. I don't fucking know. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that part of what your urination is is getting rid of waste.

Well, you've been told that. No, I haven't told that. That would make sense, right? Like you're peeing, like if you didn't pee, there's a reason you pee. It's not just because you're getting rid of vital nutrients. You're also getting rid of waste. No, it's to balance blood pressure. That's the reason why you have to urinate.

So you have to balance blood pressure. Your body can't utilize those minerals in that time. That's the, that's what's happening. It's excess minerals and everything that it's getting rid of. It's actually to give it back to you. I'm telling you that we are biologically designed for it. At least some. As in we're biologically designed for it.

Like, what do you think a Gatorade is? It's an attempt to make, to make urine because it's higher in sodium. It does. The old Gatorade did taste like urine. I tend to go with history, right? And human beings, most people don't want to be pissed on.

And there's a reason. No, you're talking about a different thing. Most people are like, hey, get your piss out of here. Like if you're pissing and someone It hits my leg, I'm going to be like, hey, what the fuck? It's indoctrination. You just got told that since you were a baby.

No, no, no, no. Every culture agrees with me. There might be something to it. I don't think so. Where piss is not really what you're going to. The reason you don't want a golden shower is it's a little weird. Not for the people to do it. I know some chicks who love that stuff.

Hey, bro. Not just chicks. Be fucking, I mean, there are guys that probably like it too. Okay, well, you got some, dude, I didn't want to talk about this part, but wait. When, okay, firstly you have to think about the oddity in creation, like what I'm saying, or intelligent design or some atheistic explosion, whatever you think, right?

But why is the baby? It cannot escape its own urine. And of the 400 chemicals that were tested by the environmental working group, they found 180 that are proven to cause cancer, birth defects, and brain deformations. It's going straight into the baby. How does the baby survive when it dumps its urine through its waste? I'll tell you what it's actually doing. It's making metabolites to those poisons that signal the removal of those poisons.

It's the same reason why that girl had the most deadly type of thing that you can have in your body that could shut down everything in minutes. And she then drank her urine. It was safe because it's filtered through the kidneys, which is the same process that about 180 liters of urine, sorry, 180 liters of blood are getting filtered through the kidneys every day. 99% of it gets reabsorbed. 1% goes to the bladder. What is coming out of you is the same thing that is,

about 178 liters is getting reabsorbed of the same substance. That's just just filtration. So how much urine would you have to drink a day to get benefits? Oh, it could be a few drops. It could be two ounces or one ounce or I've seen people. So you don't have to drink a lot. What was it? Why did, like, Leota drink it?

What was the logic behind it? Same thing. He thought it kind of what he's based it off of. He was saying he's putting all these nutrients in his body. and a lot of the nutrients are in the urine. So he's drinking the urine to replenish. So a lot of it is... It's interesting.

So 90% water, 5% solutes, electrolytes, pigments filtered from the blood by the kidneys. Key components including urea, creatine, uric acid. It's a creatin, which is a brachine of... Yeah. Go back, go back, go back. But notice how you're not even seeing

what are actually waste products? So primary waste removal systems for excess nutrients and metabolites. Yeah, exactly. So it's, yeah, it gets rid of the excess nutrients and metabolites. Yeah, it's interesting that you think about this logically, right? How does somebody that's deficient in everything have excess nutrients and excess metabolites? They don't. They, they just can't utilize those in those moments. It's needed to go back into the system. This is a supercomputer, and if you look at like the actual breakdown of you and you've got 5,600 documented small molecule metabolites and compounds in urine. And so there's so much information that your body needs.

It like needs information on everything it's poisoned by. It needs that. This is where the concept of vaccineology actually came from. It was, it was a, it was a hack of urine because you could always get whatever you're poisoned with. Your body would have that innate intelligence without someone in a white coat. And then you would, you would have the antibodies to whatever you're poisoned with. And so, I mean, I could show you all these crazy images of these before and afters the people that had the most severe reactions, either to the COVID vaccines or something else going on, because I've seen it work even for cancer, which I didn't expect to say, and I would never want to mislead somebody. I'm not saying it's the sole therapy, but I've seen it work

in late stage cancers to people being in complete remission. So will your wife and kids also drink urine? No. My wife, she does it when she's sick, and she's used it to take away warts and things like that. Overnight, that was, that was cool. She tried for two years to get rid of a ward and just dipped it in urine and the next day it was gone. That's super common. UTIs are really easy to get rid of with urine.

I've seen that work 100% of the time personally on people that I know that have done it. And it's typically anywhere between 12 and 24 hours. So if you're sick and you drink urine, it's going to help. It should fix it. It should get rid of the sore throat pretty, like pretty instantly. Wow. Because it works like a natural steroid. I don't want to tell you some of the famous people I got drinking their urine,

because I don't think they really want to be added, but it's the same reason that you mentioned before. But people are reporting amazing benefits on it. I'm not against it. I am very skeptical of your claims because I don't see any. I mean, if it were the case over millennia, I think most of us would be drinking our pee, but nobody does. We got, we got small, it's still very fringe, right?

Yeah, okay. In America. Like, you're saying all the stuff about late stage cancer and stuff, you'd have to show me like an actual, like, I'd love to see how that was put to the test and how you know it's the urine and how you know that it's actually what's causing the reversal of the cancer. Sure, I'll tell you this, okay? So this has actually been done in randomized clinical trials, okay?

Urukines is the enzyme extracted from urine, so I could prove it with extractions, right? So uricinase, if you look it up, it's the clot-busting drug, it's being a cancer drug, and one of the top cancer drugs, as has urea. Okay, notice all these words. Look that up, Chin. Urea, the historic use for cancer. And these were published in Science Magazine, Nature magazine, British Medical Journal, Oxford Medical Symposium.

Right, but extracting something. Yeah. Right? And like extracting something and distilling it is very different, right? It's like a little bit like this thing is saw palmetto bark is where aspirin comes from. But there's a compound that you isolate, you know? And I do agree with that. It's part of the reason why I'm really eager to fund a lot of research in this area to

double down on extractions because it will accelerate things. And that's why it's well with, because I would never tell anyone to do anyone therapy. So I can't even isolate a lot of things I'm doing because I'm, I'm giving people multiple things of saying do these five different things. You do the five things that you believe in. Anti-parasitic cleansing. So which would be like what you guys have seen discussed, like with ivermectin and fendazole,

but then other natural versions like mimosa puticus seed, green harvested black walnut holes. These have been historically used, very effective. So cleanse your body of parasites. Remove toxic venoms out of your body. Now people don't know what I'm talking about. Glyphosate, you know how poisonous that. is, okay, it's synthetic animal venoms. They have the patterns for it. Cone snail, scorpion,

wasp, spider, snake venoms. Okay, so then how do you remove those from your body? It's interesting that urine would enter in that category. Red light has been proven to work with an anti-venom mechanism. They proved it with the Botrop's Asper Snake. It's mitochondrial damage, ultimately, so that you'll be able to turn around the mitochondrial damage with that. The substance that I showed you before, which people can look at that it's two salts activated by the same stomach acid that you have. It's a water purifier. You could buy it on Amazon. It costs nothing, but it's very censored. There's a site called deoxypedia.com, d I, I, oXIpedia.com. So I could say that. That has all the open source information. What have you seen, like for you drinking urine? How long

you've been doing it now? Look at them, Brian. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Look at them, bro. It's clearly fucking working. Put in, putting cancer here. And look at us. Now, it won't work if Brian drinks my urine,

right? No, I don't think it will. It has to be your own urine. I think it might have to be mine. It all, okay, so yeah,

look at, go to severe tongue cancer. So, okay, go down to the tongue cancer is awful, huh? Oh, man.

Oh, my God. Oh, no. Okay, keep going down. Fuck. Eish. Okay,

see that? Yeah. This is using that substance that shall go unnamed. Hit the back arrow. Your body can actually, has properties that make it like you could click out of this one. Go back and I'll show you the prostate one. Go down further. This PSA on the, yep, stop.

Where was it? Yep, go down a bit further. That one there. Amazing recovery from prostate. Go, sorry, down further. Yeah, that's it. Yep. And scroll down.

This PSA was over 1100, almost unheard of. And that was a published study using this substance that shall go unnamed. Let's take a little break here. You know, when everyone in your team thinks someone else is handling it, the call, the text, the follow up, it's like the Spider-Man meme where they're all pointing at each other. Meanwhile, the customers just sit in there like, yo, what's up? That's how you quietly lose business. So, yeah, at a certain point, it's like, let's freaking glow.

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like with really advanced cancers that, I don't know if I'm going to get flagged for this, but there are certain parasitic medications that'll go unnamed that have shown, that have shown absolute clinically proven from oncologists who are hard-nosed scientists, not woo-woo doctors, and it has worked with cancer patients. There's no doubt about it.

And put them in remission or at least gotten them down to whether cancer was undetectable. So they don't know why. It's really interesting, but there's no doubt that for whatever reason, some cancers respond really well to parasite cleanse. Yeah, and I'll tell you why. It's because the intracellular parasites are lodging themselves inside the cells, and they're disrupting something called the mitochondrial. stem cell connection. So they're literally sucking the energy from the cells. And what that means is

that when a cell is going from its infancy from being a stem cell to then wanting to be what it wants to be when it grows up, becoming a heart cell and eye cell, he can't make the conversion. He doesn't have enough energy. And this is why we need to be talking about voltage. That's why this, what I just showed you, is all about voltage because it's using something that's going to transfer oxygen and electrons into the body so that your body can use that for voltage. How does an axolodal have half its eye cut out and it just grows back? How does it, or salamander has its leg caught off, it just grows back. We have some of these properties, but we're not activating them.

And what's happening with the cancer is just these are malformed cells. They can't make the conversion. So we then kill parasites. And that's why you'll see back to red light, you'll see the photodynamic therapy, putting the seven out of ten studies that show methylene blue red light combination causing up to 100% complete remission. That was documented in breast cancer. These were animal studies, but there are thousands of human studies, but this combination was fascinating because they took the methylene blue, injected into the tumor, and then put the light over it,

typically only for like 10 or 15 minutes. But for breast cancer, this is PubMed as well. 100% for breast cancer, 99.9% with red light. Yeah, for colorectal cancer. Wow. Malignant melanoma, 99%. Um, yeah, so. So what is, what is methylene blue? It's a fabric dye.

It's a fabric dye. It's, my buddy, our friend took it. And it at my house. I used it every day. He said to my house. My whole fucking, my whole, our bathroom was blue. You got to be careful because it. It's stained.

Like my wife gets so mad because I'll use it and then a little big it on my hand and I closed our white, you know, drawers or whatever. And there's just blueprints all in the night to get out. Exactly. You get the capsule form that it's inside of a capsule. So your tongue doesn't go blue. You're trying to do a show and your tongue is blue. So what was your question?

It was. Methylene blue. It's a fabric dye, textile dye. And then it, so it was an accident. They're literally making jeans out of this stuff. and it, but crazy, right? Okay, but now, okay, so you know that light is powerful.

Yeah. Right, you get that now. What if I could make your body extra sensitive to light? If I made you so susceptible to light that it would just, whatever light did it would do it at a high rate. Yeah. That's what methylene blue does because it's staining your cells. So for a moment, it's not a permanent stain.

So that when the light hits it generates more reactive oxygen, actually five times the increase in reactive. active oxygen species. So singlet oxygen has been used in military settings to shoot down missiles. It's not commonly used. It has been used. Your body will produce that naturally. What do you think that does to cancer cells? It's the mechanism. If you look at the literally hundreds of studies on photodynamic therapy for cancer, they say the same thing. Red light with a photosensitizing agent like methylene blue, cacumen, berberine, artemason, and then natural versions are performing a similar thing. You saw the lens of oncology study. They said a deep sea bacteria.

That was the photosensitizer used. Once you have that combination, you take it first, typically about 30 minutes before, then like methylene blue, cacumen would be two to three hours before. You irradiate it with 630 to 660 nanometer red light, which is what you saw there, that bright red. Now it's going to absorb into those cells. The chromophores, the light receptors in the mitochondria, are then going to draw that in.

Then they're going to produce massive amounts of cellular energy, which is adenosine triphosphate, and then you're going to spit out all this reactive oxygen that like singlet oxygen and and like a fivefold increase in reactive oxygen it's going to blow up all these cells that need to go not just the tumor cells but senescent cells that are that they're just taking energy from the body then you're shutting down old ones and then you're spawning new ones through mitogenesis that and mitophagy shutting down the old making new that that's this is the process if you want to understand wellness it's about shutting down bad cells spawning new cells and that's it

and maturing those new cells. And how'd you get to become this guy? A good question. You know what I'm saying? Like you know your shit. Clearly you're well spoken. You're educated. But how do you get to be this guy?

Thank you. Thank you for asking. And look, I think the best doctor is, like, the doctor that wrote this on my book, where did I put it? There it is. Like, this was Dr. Antonio Jimenez, and he wrote this, this, you know, this is about to release, but he says that my research is groundbreaking and this is a potential lifesaver. And then he says, for anyone touched by cancer or seeking to prevent it, this book

isn't just recommended. It's essential. I mean, this is the guy that treated Olivia and Newton-John put her cancer in remission, Suzanne Summers and like the famous people. And so I'd never imagine, for example, that I would be there educating the doctors in that clinic in Cancun and Tier 1 are showing the breakthrough discoveries of what's happening and being a part of that. And when some of these guys are having. Olivia and John's not a good example, by the way. She's not a good example. She died.

No, thank you. This is part of the reason why they went into remission. So if you research these cases, they went into, yeah, it's sad, isn't it? But they went into remission, and they went into remission

through different centers like the, like the Hope for Cancer Center and things like this. But then this is what's killing people. It's the, it's the follow-up. She battled it for 30 years. see what I mean yeah see how like she is actually a cancer survivor wow yeah that'd be 30 years that's a long time that's a good fight that's a good fight yeah that's basically that's pretty much

a cure yeah dude thank you being humble about that yeah yeah thank for a minute you're mistake no no no no but it's a mix but i say the same thing man there's no doubt like there are so many mysteries in medicine that we don't know and the one thing that you know if you ever hear the guy who is, you know the guy who was on Megan Kelly who created that, that he's the, he owns the LA Times, he's a cancer doctor, made a fortune with therapies, he's invented a vaccine that supercharges your helper T cells to fight cancer. And they found incredible results with this, with things like even glialblastoma, pancreatic cancer, things like that. One of the problems, and he's just, he's a doctor, he's a straight-up oncology,

he said, when you have something like chemo, what you're doing, is killing pretty much all the cells in your body. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, you're also wreaking havoc on your immune system. Yeah. And so the future of cancer is...

Highly... Highly selective. And it's being used and it says photodynamic therapy, this is a PubMed study on lung cancer, 87% overall response rate in this study, which means that they had a significant response and it was assisting them to put their cancer in toward putting it in remission. And it said that this is a promising, you know, alternative to palliative chemotherapy. It said that. Photodynamic therapy is an anti-chumor strategy that is a promising alternative to chemo,

or it is an alternative to palliative chemotherapy with a specific word. So anyway, to come back to that, it's part of the reason why when people like from the Hope for Cancer Center like Dr. Jimenez, why their follow. program's become the most important part. And that's why as well when, like, for example, with my red light therapy company, we're a big part of their follow-up program so that when they go home, they're using something continually. Because this one, it's not one in a clinic. It's one at home. You see what I mean? Yeah. And that's continues. People think they're done, yeah? And that's exactly. And that's what he told me. He said that people go back to habits after a long time.

That's what Dr. Jimenez told me about her specific case. They go back to habits. But you know what? Good for her. She should be rewarded for Yeah, they, 30 years, man. It's so hard for somebody. Like, anybody who has a judgment on anything, it's like she was doing her best and she did a great job. Yeah, but I'm glad you know about a case. We need to talk about these things. And people like Jordan Peterson going through what he's going through, I believe with all the things. What's going on with Jordan? He's just got real, real medical issues.

Well, he's always had some issues. Yeah, he got, he got addicted to a certain kind of pain killer. But that was a while ago. It was a psychiatric med. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, but this is the fallout from that, like the damage of what that had done. And you know what I would be doing? I'd be getting red light straight into my brain because you're just dealing with things energetically.

You don't have to know everything if you have the right tools to be able to activate these processes in the body. Because it's, it's, and I actually on the plane just after I only just found out myself and I was researching, okay, what are all the different types of psychiatric medications that he could have been taking? What were some of the tools that were used in there? Which receptors are they binding to and affecting, like the nicotine receptors? Like, so many of them interfering with the nicotine receptors? What's your thing on nicotine? I think it can be really helpful.

Yeah. I've seen lots of cases of conditions getting reversed on it. I saw... Not a lot of it, but you can take some of it responses. Exactly. And I agree with you. People are overdosing and... That guy.

Yeah. I feel great, dude. It's good for your brain. There's a lot that's good in that. Bad for your blood pressure, good for your brain. Is it? Yeah. All right.

Okay, get this. The reason why there's thousands of studies now, thousands of studies on nicotine, showing it's therapeutic for schizophrenia, dementia. You fact check me on everything I'm saying. Tourette syndrome, viral myocarditis,

cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, glioblastomas. Did you say dementia? And by the way? Yes. And infatitis. And infatitis. No, for real. That's why I started. You noticed. Well, because, you know, I'm always worried about

CT and stuff like that. And then they were doing research, extensive research on people that were smoking, and they realized that people like heavy smokers, they don't get dementia. They didn't have dementia. Like, what's the nicotine? So it's the delivery, smoking it is what gives them the cancer. But there's a huge benefit to the nicotine. So that's what I started. We're not, didn't a lot of smokers avoid COVID too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's true. Because, okay, so those poisons targeted the Alpha 7 nicotine. acetylcholine receptor. The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, that's the primary target for it. So nicotine has a 30-times affinity for that receptor, and there's studies on this over anything

else, which means that when you put it in, whatever poison was in your body gets perched from that receptor. And this is why I saw people with Guillamborei after long COVID, or as a result of COVID or long COVID, and I saw cases where within days they were paralyzed in hospital, or they walked out in a matter of like one case was three days because of a nicotine patch. And it makes sense because those poisons are bound to nicotine receptors. Okay, now look at the one. Did you guys hear about the venom aspect of COVID? No.

The venom? Yeah. No. So I was whistleblowing on this back, you know, four years ago. Okay, if you put in toxin-like peptides found in blood urine and feces of COVID-19 samples, okay, toxin. And I'll answer your other question before. I appreciate. Like peptides.

Because I'm going to say, as we're looking that up, I'm going to make, tell me if you agree with this. Yeah, please. Caffeine, creatine, nicotine, good things to take in the morning. Yes or no? I think I'm undecided on caffeine. You are? Yeah.

Well, I'm never stopping. Yeah, exactly. And I will drink three cups of coffee right now. Just to spite me. That's good. Look, I'm not anti-things because I don't believe in taking away people's like, and I know that there are benefits. This motherfucker is on it.

Look at this. Recent studies using high-sensity mass spectrometry. Found peptides in the plasma, urine, and fecal samples of COVID-19 patients that are nearly identical to toxic components of animal venom.

You shut the fuck up, dude. What do you mean? You're the one question of shit. You've been questioning this whole fucking time, and I told you that this shit is rattlesnake. You know what? Oh, yeah.

He doesn't believe. Let's go, Johnny! He got nine boosters. He got nine boosters. I'm the guys. I didn't. No, I didn't. I didn't get any fucking, I never got actually vaccinated for COVID. Yeah. No, I said it did. I had to go to Europe. I know. I know the feeling. Okay, so click, click on that. So this was June of 2020. This was before the vaccine came out, which shows that we

actually got mass poisoned. So click on that, yeah, the top one. And I'll show you this and why then it's relevant. And this is my answer to why nicotine works. Okay, this is not the first time. Yep, scroll down. So you saw the, the, Yep, go all the way down to table one. So you saw what it said there, and it was conotoxins, phospholipases, phospho-diasis, phocinolidases, sconesnail venoms and snake venoms.

Okay, go to table one, keep going, you'll find it. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, look at that. No, it's all good. Far right, appreciate you, bro, thank you. Bandit, Cricht, the most poisonous snake in the world. Malaysian crite, these are the most poisonous snakes in the world, squirrel snakes.

They have a blood and neurotoxin. I know everything about snakes. Malaysian spinning color. Holy fuck. The inland Taipan is, so the, The biggest argument is who's the most poisonous snake in the world, the inland Tai Pan or the Bandit Cricht. And some people have survived the fucking inland Tai Pan.

They've never survived. But I'm confused. How's it? You know your stuff. I know my shit. But how's this bad from Australia? Relate to the... This is in the blood urine and feces of COVID people.

This was just this Italian group of people. This is this pub med. From Australia. Some most poisonous fucking snakes in the world. You fucking don't know. No, I know. But why? Are they in there?

These are why is this in there? Notice the words. Toxic components, toxinolite peptides almost identical to toxic components of venoms from animals. It says almost, meaning that these are all copies. This is synthetic. We got blanketed with synthetic poisons. That's why.

This is crazy. Saw-scaled viper. You don't know. Shut the fuck up. You know how poison they are? And then you got this Korean slamos. I've never heard of that. He's been pushing the COVID agenda for a hot second now.

now you realize you. Now my man's here. Now you're going to deal with the facts. I have a bunch of shit. We've been poisoned, big dog. Look at that. Dude, you came. We're getting Coach Miller over here.

I was excited to debunk all your shit, bro. Dude, I was so ready for you, bro. Yeah. I don't want any yes man. I want challenges. So thank you. I told Jay, I go, I'm going to fucking back check this dude. Yeah.

I'm coming at him if he's going to come out of me with all the shit. That's why. And now you're hitting me with this. Okay. So now. So wait. I want to get the. straight. Yeah. Just, yeah, please. So people who had COVID, yes. They had, they had the same kinds of

peptide structures. Yes. That are found in some of the most poisonous snakes. Yes. Yeah. And in 2012, you'll see Department of Justice, conotoxins potential weapons of the sea is the article. They say that mass envenomation through aerosolization is the big, one of the biggest bioterrorist threats that we face. And it says the primary targets will be the alpha-7 nicotine receptors in the body, in the brain, heart and it will cause respiratory rest in the same article it says this where they're warning about what would happen. And it specifically said, cone snail and veneration will equate to respiratory arrest and intubation. And so these poisons would naturally do this. Now, why do you think Fauci then started telling people, there's never been a better time to give up smoking? Yeah. And the companies that,

the narrative that smokers aren't getting affected by COVID, that's sponsored by tobacco companies. It wasn't, there was no conflict of interest. It was a natural lock and key. What do you think these venom's docked to in the body? Which receptors? The alpha-7 nicotine receptor. Why do you think a badger and a mongoose when they get bitten by a snake don't get affected? Because why?

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No credit cards or alien encounters necessary. Pluto TV, stream now, pay never. So does that mean then that we should be taking Nicotine? Yes. Okay. Like three milligrams? like not 50? Like I'm sure Brennan's zone 50. I take three.

This guy takes 50. I take three and that's all I mean. Yeah, exactly. Because it's going to feel this receptor. If you look up the patents for glyphosate, all the animal venoms. So what do you think is all these weird reactions as if you got bitten by a lethal animal?

Well, listen, by the way, more and more evidence points to the fact that this virus, COVID-19, was made in a lab, even though we were told we couldn't say it. Oh, no, but that's a fact now. fact now. Right. And so... And so it's not surprising that it's a... But it didn't leak a lab.

That this was a war... This was a war... This is probably something that was used in a biological weapons program. Yeah. Yeah. Or whatever it was. Yeah. You know, the... M.K. Ultra. It's in the docks. Yeah. The thing that made a lot of sense to me that nobody talks about is Fauci may have had a second job, which was to be involved in the U.S. Army's biological weapons program. And when they were doing GANFunction research,

that was a top secret process of kind of figuring out how to isolate viruses. And it got, something happened. And all of a sudden, the shit hits the pan. They're like, holy shit, what do we do now? We just caused a global pandemic. We better cover our ass. And then, and of course, nothing happened.

But, yeah, exactly. But remember, like Bill Gates clearly said in his TED talk that the world's population is a huge issue and we could reduce it with the right. reproductive services and vaccinations or immunizations? What do you think you meant? I don't buy that. What do you think he meant? I don't think he meant that. I think that what he talks about a lot is two things, actually. But what can you mean by that sentence? The one thing about vaccines in certain parts of the world, like mosquito and that's malaria, having lived all over the world, I can tell you that,

that's a major problem for children. And one of the things that you can, that I think he's earnest about is using medical technology to try to, you know, keep people alive. The biggest problem, though, that you hear people like Bill Gates talk about everybody now is we don't have enough people. People aren't having enough children in most of the world, especially the modern world. And like the United States, people in the 30s are just not having kids anymore. And we are going to be in the same. We will be in the same position that all of Europe is, which is negative population growth.

Agreed. And then we'll have to bring people in, and they'll have different cultures, and we'll have this whole thing. but if you hear Elon Musk and you hear these guys talk, they'll tell you that the biggest threat now is that we're not having enough children. We don't have enough people. And I agree with that. I don't believe that the world is overpopulated at all

and never has been, never will be. Well, we figure it out, right? Yeah. But the problem is that it's really interesting. This guy was saying this, and I saw a clip of it, and so I don't want to do it. But he's 30-something, he's very smart guy, and he said, none of my friends,

and I'm in my 30s, None of us have kids. Why? He goes, and I can't figure it out, but none of us have kids. And here's the other thing about young kids, and I have teenagers now, one who's 18, the other is 14. The dating rituals are so weird, and they're not really dating. There's a whole dance that goes on.

Well, kids now, he said this, and I thought it was really interesting, he said, kids aren't dancing anymore. They don't dance. They don't go and dance. They don't drink. They don't know how. They don't know how. What's going on?

Well, one of the things that's going on is 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds, 17-year-olds, 16-year-olds, know that they're going to be filmed no matter what. So they're embarrassed. So they know that you're 16, you're already a mess.

And you know that cameras are going to be on you all the time. So you can't take a risk. There's no chances. So everything is and it's very interesting that social media is actually the biggest, the biggest birth control device that we have invented. It is causing children not to connect. It is causing children to self-isolate.

It's causing all of us to do that. And it's killing our population growth. How interesting. So these these. Almost like by design. By design or human beings do this to themselves in a weird way. Also, it's like technology. But even Zuckerberg had, he had to pay a huge lawsuit, 375 antitrust lawsuit because he was like, when we designed it in research, we knew it would be this addictive. He doesn't let his kids use it. Steve Jobs was like, I would never let my kids to use that. But these discoveries too. Like all of a sudden, you got these autistic dudes, right? They knew that. But you got autistic people. They studied persuasion technology. So their idea is how do we how do we how do we how do we create a technology people are going to want more of it? Because we're competing with this side over here.

So you get these young, ambitious, kind of autisticy, engineering types of people. All of a sudden it becomes a battle to do this. Look at AI. And we compete. And we compete. ourselves into extinction. It is not, it is, to me, I get biblical about it. I get a little religious about it personally. Yeah, yeah. I really do. Because I think, I think, I think what we're doing is worshiping false gods. Yeah. And I think that that phone is a false god. And I think that it's the tree of knowledge. And there's before the iPhone and there's after the iPhone. And there's before social media and there's after social media. And sometimes your destroyer is not a giant bomb. Your destroyer will show up as something you're so addicted to

that before you know it, we're all drug addicts. And we stop having children, we just disappear. But be in other parts of the word, like China doesn't allow the same addictive stuff. It's not a bad idea, right? Well, where do we get the phones from? Where does TikTok create it? So they're, their children are different.

Well, the children are different. I created a lot of this too. Sure. Yeah. Not TikTok, though, is where most of this stuff came and TikTok was copied. So I'm just saying that our ambition for money, our ambition.

In America. Yeah. Our ambition in general, like for technology, human beings, will invent shit. And look, the biggest question is so interesting to me. So when Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein, okay, it was a time in our history. So Frankenstein was this monster that was created by a scientist. And the idea was that biology is just assembly. It's just assembly.

There's no God. It's no God. It's just, you're just a machine, bro. And by the way, you're just, we were in the industrial revolution. And it got to a point where people like, why study Shakespeare and Latin? Why study like art? We don't need art. We need coal.

Fucking England's a great country because of coal. And we have the biggest machines. And America has the roaring stock market and has, you know, the biggest guns and the biggest machines. And what does Frankenstein do? You know what he does in the book? He kills the poet. He kills the poet. The creator?

No. Yeah. Well, Dr. Frankenstein, but there's a poet. in the book. And the poet, it's just a poet. He just writes beautiful verse and Frankenstein kills him and says something to the effect of you made me. I am your, you have created me and I am killing you. You have created your own, your own creation is killing you. Yeah. But it was very symbolic that poetry, fucking poetry, art that we stay alive for was being killed by a machine. Wow. Okay. So then we had the nuclear revolution. And all of a sudden we're inventing nuclear

weapons in the United States and Soviet Union, this arms race to keep ourselves safe. To the point when we went, wait, guys, we just invented enough fucking weapons to blow the world up 50 times. Yeah. And that's where we had that nuclear proliferation act and that freeze and salt and all those things. Now we're back. Now here we are with artificial intelligence.

China and America are trying to fucking beat each other because the one who wins, have you heard these guys talk? The one who gets the AI that's the best is the one that will, that will, that will, that will dominate all the other AI. So we're in arms race there. Yeah. And so good luck with that. Let's see how that works out for us.

True. But it really is a religious thing. It's like, you know, careful. Waring against God is a big thing. And you'll notice a lot of movies, narratives of the creation warring against their creator. And, I mean, what do you think the Avengers is all about? You don't think Thanos is a hack on.

Doomsday. We are creating the Doomsday Machine. Yeah. And Thanos is, actually the character of God. That's what they're portraying. So they're reversing the roles. That's why he calls himself, I am, then I am inevitable. Oh, wow. He retires to the garden after his genocide. He kills his daughter for sacrifice. What's her name? He's adopted daughter, Gamora. Wow. Sodom and Gamora. So they're telling you the narrative, even though if you do the research on

Sodom and Gamora, you'll find that it was a lightning strike on tarpitz. That's what Josephus records. So that's the fire and brimstone. And it was the sins of man that had created the destruction versus God saying, I'm just going to kill you. I love this shit. Like you ever hear that? You know how the God of the Israelites was Yahweh? Yeah.

Okay, so Yahweh, okay? So try this. It's really wild. Just quietly. Breathe in and breathe out. And it's Yahweh. Wow. Yeah.

It's a weird thing. Maybe it's bullshit. No, but thanks for getting me to do it because I've, I've seen that, but then just doing it then, I could feel something like where I get. And that's the breath. So your breath is God, right? Yeah.

It's kind of cool. It's fucking creepy, but it's wild. Try it. Dude, it's beautiful. And that's to me why the greatest attack against humanity is to separate us from our creator. And like, think about the worst possible beliefs that you could adopt and then would get

indoctrinated into you. That would cause you to feel separation. Because I've been talking about the medical side saying, yeah, we got told this, but it's wrong. Think about getting told. from childhood that if you did something wrong, that God would not accept you, not love you anymore, or even that maybe he would still somehow love you

while he was doing this horrific thing to you, and then he would send you to burn forever in hell. And you'd say, okay, well, it seems like, but isn't that what Christian teaches? Well, read the Bible verses on it, and you'll realize that they're completely taken out of context. And it was a heavy Roman Catholic doctrine that was not formally believed up until that point,

and then when Protestant, which was around 530 AD, when that doctrine then became established, eternally burning hell, then you fast forward a thousand years to the Protestant Reformation when Martin Luther and Calvin and Knox separated, they took all that stuff with them. They still took this stuff because it was so embedded in their mind.

So then the main churches, then you want to be a pastor, you've got to believe this belief. If you want to not teach that, then go work for another church because this is our doctrine. We have this creed. So I don't care exactly what the Bible says. I care what we teach. Even though they don't say it like that, they're not bad people.

It's a system that's being created that good people that want to teach congregations are teaching false beliefs that actually are what drives pornography. I could tell you that I had finally freedom from pornography after believing that God is completely nonviolent. And I didn't realize. Explain that. Okay, so I thought that bad people kind of have it coming. and then God's going to like pull the trigger on part of humanity. And I didn't realize to me from my study of the Bible that humanity pulls the trigger on ourselves.

And we, God doesn't reject us, but we reject him. And it comes back to us a mirror as a mirror. That's why you think God judging you through them to clouds. It's you and it's a way you judge other people. And that's why you see that. But that's why it says, blessed of the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. And forgive us our trespasses as if we forgive those who trespass against us. when you forgive, then you can see that God forgives you.

I feel that way too. I always think like whenever I have it. But why did you stop porn? Point, because it's a comfort thing. Yes, I'm looking for comfort. And a woman is the closest thing that I have to a life giver. It's like it's the comfort of feeling and escape as well from like I didn't realize. I mean, I would have told you I believed in a loving God.

But it was, I was tormented still by this impending doom that I had a time limit to get it right. And then if I didn't, then God was going to get rid of me. And that rejection that I felt then meant that I wanted, like, subconsciously, I didn't think that I realized that this was what it was. But then I'd reach for something that would finally give me that relief from the pain that I was feeling, this continual pain of life. And for a moment, I could escape it. And through the form of, like a woman, like the pinnacle of creation, like the last thing created, Eve is the last thing created. And then, you know, when I was on my mother's breast, I was comforted and I was, I felt life coming into my veins. I was, I didn't feel threat. I didn't feel violence and

things like that. And so there's all these different flashbacks and connections that we have with intimacy, but the issues are when God is the vengeful figure, then there's no comfort from him. And then we're demanding way too much from women and wanting way too much. And then there's that pursuit after more and more and more because we're feeling something. It's just a sensation, right? Yeah. So what do you think, why do you think porn is bad? Because I think almost everybody would agree, like at least every culture ever and every

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relationship young people because boys are looking they they see everything they get everything so girls were trying to keep up and up the ante and it's really fucked up a lot of that stuff it's really interesting it's like as you get older you go well the boys seeing that think that's like normal practice. Right. Right. I don't know if you, I didn't really grow up with that.

Porn was something. You had to rent a fucking. Yeah. We were lucky. I mean, yeah. Now. It was magazine that maybe you found when you're 15.

At least you skipped up until that point. Right. Yeah, I was like in my 20s by the time. But think about meeting girls too when you're younger. Like you would go out, we'd go out to a bar and you would talk to girls. There was a,

there was a connection there. You know, nobody who had their phone on you. you were just having a connection. You were, the whole thing. Because it was the only way to do it. Right.

Instead of apps now where it's, you're literally just based off looks. We're like, I like her. And you just go like that. Swipe right. Hey, are you up?

Yep. And then, yeah. So you're, you're falling in like you're, you're being, your eyes being caught by an avatar, by a moment that's caught,

you know, there's no connection. It's all, like anyway, anyway, I've never been on those sites, but anybody that's on those dating apps are saying like there's, people just want to hook up.

Yeah. It's like, yeah. You're on the app looking for love. Every guy, you know, they're not. Right. Literally, you're putting yourself out there. Yeah.

And they're going, yep, they checked eye test, except you up. Right. So there's no connection. And they're looking for connections. Yeah. I was never on those apps. I've never been on them. But I have younger friends who I would be like on the road with watching them.

They were on those apps all day. Yeah. They're just addicted. Flam. Yeah. It's not good. Swiping. And look, it's easy for people.

that have everything great, like their wife and their husband, giving them this great sexual intimacy. And so then the people that are kind of like, hey, man, like, thanks a lot. You're taking the one thing from me and making me feel bad about the one thing. I don't have that. You know, I've got, I'm lonely. I don't have that social ability to find a lover or something like that. Or my wife is like, she's blocking me or my husband's blocking me.

So I don't get that. And so you really can empathize with people. It's a real struggle. Wait till sex robots get here. Wait till that shit comes. That's not good either. Yeah, I mean, that's a deal with the devil. It is.

It's a devil. Chim, bring up sex bots. Then there's no reason for you to go out and try to create a personal relationship. There's, it's over. Your hedonism, your character, like everything, everything that, you know, where you, you, like, you struggle through life and you work it out. They have these real computers now. Yeah, you also got to, you got to have the courage to talk to a girl, you know, like it builds character. Again, maybe you shoot your shot, she turns down under the next one, dude.

Yeah, yeah, true. It's like that, you know? You don't, you have no resilience. It's good point, man. Yeah, it's not good. You get that. Yeah, and, and so like, you guys- robots, China. Yeah, you would find, would find it in. But I mean, this is, this is, this is, this is the new and weird. No, these are terrible, though. They're still far away. For now, but yeah. Yeah, I know, but. I know, it's so creepy. They're not great. God, though. And, and yeah, people will just, then this would create another, it's dysopia, obviously. It's a self-destruction.

Yeah, yeah. And then you go to some parts of the world where women outshine the guys like 10 to 1, you know, parts of Asia. So the guys are like, you know, the women are like, fuck, man, what am I going to do? First of all, most people are using GPT as therapy. Okay, do you know that? Well, like therapy, like talk therapy. Yeah, yeah. So most people.

I don't know if that's true, but it is. It is. Look it up. most people are using chat GPT as a as therapy as basically something they can talk to like the movie her yeah yeah yeah so then it does start that that thing again it's another human disconnection where you talk to a therapist they're actual human with real life experience they can share their experience of us adults with mental health conditions use AI rip who use AI RIP or use large language models like chat GPT for therapeutic support primarily for anxiety depression stress management. Whoa. But I guess if it's helping, you know, and you're embarrassed, you know,

and it's free. It's free. Yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah. And like, God, we're fucked. Sharing on the, on the personal side. I'm just starting drinking piss.

All right, by the way, on the, you just saw what was in COVID itself. Yeah. Why do you think urine is working? You're getting a natural anti-venom. Yeah. Right? So you got so many poisons and it will start making sense to you,

I think, Brian. that if you look up glioblast. You're trying to get me to drink my own. No, no, trying to get you to understand the possibilities of... How much pee would I have to drink? Like you said, a few drops to start. You could do a rectal suppository. Put glioma, alpha conatoxin.

So first link, keep going down. Just the first link, not the AI. Yeah, that one there. Yeah, so notice here that. alpha conotoxin and alpha cobra toxin, right? You just saw a long list that are getting into people. That was without me showing you the pesticides. That's without me showing you what HIV actually is.

HIV GP-120 and the bungorotoxin, which is a cobra venom, are identical. So what does that tell you about what has been going on for a long time with the biological warfare? Look at here that alpha conotoxins and cobra toxins promote gliomas, which are, it's a brain cancer. That's connected to chleoblastomas. Now look at what nicotine does to it, by the way. which is so weird that we have these studies. This is a marine study because it's using a snail. Yeah, keep going down.

Yeah, it'll be in table. Practically no effect. A table? Yeah, ignore what it says there. See what it says in the table. You'll see the visual because they almost hid the findings, even though you can visibly see it's the next one. Keep going.

Yeah, there you go. Look at 72 hours after nicotine added in the tumor formation. tumor formation and then I'll get you to read the print as well. So yeah, I just go up a little bit before that and you'll see that it says it was a drop it by more than two times with at 72 hours. Intentate effect on profanity viable statistic cells. Inhibition with it was observed. Oh wow. So I think just the moral of this pot is drink urine, take nicotine. Nicotine. Don't trust the government. Hold on. Piss, a little piss in your coffee because you got to get some caffeine.

I don't know if he can mix with coffee. You might kill it. No, no, I don't think so. Like something may be really hard if it was for the stem cells. Yeah, probably. You just want to do it all natural, bud. Why you kind of... No, no, but the electrolytes putting in some something like some juice.

Nicaratin, nicotine, caffeine, and no, peepee. Yeah, no, dude, I'm not trying to convince you. This guy's going to start doing it, though. Yeah. See how you feel. See what happens to your skin. I'm doing red light on my eyes. Red light in your eyes.

I'm listening to this guy. I have to say Jonathan. Jonathan. No, no, no. He looked fantastic. You fucking are pro of snake venom, you piece of shit. Listen. No, I'm going to drink it.

I find, I've, I have found this podcast to be illuminating, and I'm glad you came in because I was all set to fucking go hard in the paint. Dude, they didn't tell me. And homeboy brought me. Oh, yeah, I knew you were going to love him up. And he's a nice guy. Yeah. When they told me coming, I figured like older white dude, I was like, God, this pocket's going

to blow. He might, before he came on like this pot. I told him a good looking dude comes in. I was just going to suck. Came all the way from Puerto Rico. We're talking about red light. Like, that's a 20-minute episode. And then as soon you came out, like, oh, dope, man.

Well, you're awesome. You're a awesome. You're a nice guy. You're going to crush it, man. Yeah, you're a nice. I can see you're a nice person. And I was like, this motherfucker, I was expecting you to be a con man.

So I'm telling you, I said to Jay, I go, why would you have a con man on your show, Brian? Because I brought you on so I could fucking go hard at you. I said to Jay, I go, if I'm, if this guy's bullshit and I'm going to sniff it out and I'm coming at you. then Homeboy's got, he's coming up with everyone. But we liked you right away. Yeah, he's awesome.

Yeah, it's awesome. I was like, you can tell by energy. I was like, this guy's not who I expected me. You know what I'm going to predict? He's going to get so big, we're never going to see you again. No, that's okay. It's going to be the theme of this show. I hope so.

I hope you do. I hope you do. Yeah, you're awesome, dude. Yeah. Oh, you guys are so kind. Well, here's what I want from both of you. I want you to tell me people that you care about that are in your life that are struggling with something.

And let's help them together. Love it. And let's track their stories and share that with people that need that hope, because that's all I care about then. Your question on my backstory, I became an ambassador for World Vision at age 17. So I was, thankfully, I just knew a connection between when people suffer, you've got to do something about it when I saw a World Vision commercial at age seven.

And I was crying. My mom said, well, then you got to do it if you want to do this. And I said, well, how do I do it? And so I delivered newspapers and then sponsored. two children, but just the connection between, okay, if there's something wrong, we could do something about it, was like what drove me. And so then, because I did a lot of education and research into human trafficking, because I do some of that work with people like Tim Tebow. And he's, do you know Tim? He's a good friend. I'm super close to Tim. That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing.

He did say after the detox stuff that, I don't know, I'll say, yeah, the detox stuff that I got in that that's immediately after I feel pregnant with Daphne. It's great, right? It's so beautiful. He's such a good dude. Bro, I'm so glad. He's a great guy, man. That's awesome, you know, Tadman.

Yeah, yeah. He's all who almost doesn't seem real. He's such a good person. I know. Yeah. I know. Jonathan. Yeah, so this video sent me for my 40th.

It was really special. He's great. Okay, so then I was researching all these things. And then I went to into Tanzania era, became an ambassador for World Vision, Ryan, I love your multicultural background. No wonder you kind of picked up so much culture and ability to interact with people

because you'd, you know, growing up in Philippines, yeah, the military base. Pakistan, Greece. Yeah, and then seeing all these different things. So I just saw lots of different things through my life that then made me feel like, you know, how can I do something to make a difference? And so then I had a lot of health problems.

I had Lyme disease. I had to quit full-time work in my early 20s. I was so sick. Lyme disease, cytomegalovirus, Epsteinbar, Ross River fever, glandular fever, chronic fatigue syndrome, chronic boils breaking out my body. I got scars on, but, you know, they're smaller, but it definitely happened to me.

It's not a fake story. And then I saw then after all this research and, you know, I studied, studied journalism and studied a post-grader degree, but I saw what was going on with the health issue. I wanted to do something about it. started working with a group, truth about cancer. And then I went deep into this research and worked with some of the world's best doctors.

Hence why I was telling you when I was trying to work out of the COVID vaccine injury issue, it was RFK Junior's doctor that called me after two years of us going back and forward. And he would delete whatever he'd say because he'd say, there's no way to reverse the vaccine injuries. I'm like, I'm not going to give people this video. I'm like deleting this. And so I'd never air it, but then he said it's the urine. And so anyway, there was a reason for that. And I just thought, God help me.

And even with this vaccine stuff, sorry, the snake venom stuff, when I first looked into that, I thought, oh, no, like, even in the fringe of the fringe that I'm in, I knew what was going to happen. I'm like, I'm going to get kicked out of all this fringe that I'm in because I'm further into the fringe or the urine therapy. I'm going out of the, I don't even belong in a camp anymore. And because I had like, like, take sometimes, though. I know. And I had tests earlier in life in, like, church and stuff like that that was like, do you want to believe what the Bible says or? or being in the tribe and the community. I'm like, dude, I'd love to be in the tribe and the community,

but I really want to believe what the Bible says. And so I'm going to have to take the, I'm going to have to get ostracized on this. So I kind of knew that rigmarole. My mom knew it because she was a Muslim in Malaysia that converted to Christianity, and she literally had to escape the country. And it was three miracles that happened,

that got her out, like things that you don't expect. Another story for that time. You have the energy of an entrepreneur too. Yeah, yeah. You just have that, yeah, you got that whole energy of like just somebody who's enthusiastic about things. And, yeah, it's really interesting. Oh, I appreciate that.

You can take over, brother. Oh, I did. Oh, that's so special. Well, listen, I got my red light. Yeah, yeah, we'll blast you with it. You need it worse than me right now, but he's going to send me one. Oh, yeah, you need one. Well, you know it's going to take it.

It's going to be Joe, and my wife is going to be, because it's good for your skin, right? Yeah, what did you say, sir? It would also, like my baby girl has hypotonia. Yeah. So I don't know if this would help with that. I'll have to look at that specific thing. But the answer, which sounds like a dumb answer, but the answer is that it will help with everything.

Yeah. Because it's like me saying, well, oxygen help that. Yeah. And the oxygen does. And if you understand that red light therapy is an oxygen therapy, it is a stem cell therapy. It does, it is proven. You can look up it to generate.

mesenchymal stem cells within the bones are both red and near infrared. So will new stem cells help hypotonia? Yes. Yeah, and see what I mean? So that's what I want everyone to do. Like the thyroid studies, 96% of the Hashimoto's enlarged thyroid people go to regular thyroid after three weeks of treatment. That's insane.

Really? Yeah, yeah. Put in this study on 350 Hashimoto's thyroid patients. Yeah. So how would I use that every day? Yeah, there we go. We got it up and steer. Oh, look at that.

Look, I put it on this. Dude, have we destroyed the cameras? You're not going to get much from it, because it's 2.45. I like it. Oh, man. That is bright, though. You should get your eyes used to it.

Look at your face. I got one eye on that. Let's see what happens if I do it, right? I don't know if I'm going to start screening. I'm not, I'm not, let's see. Well, we've been in darkness here. It's not bad. Oh, you're good.

Okay. But you're, I mean, you're the red light guy. So now, now, how long, how long, How long should I have that on me per day? For it's debatable. Like, 15 minutes a day would be epic. Okay. 30 minutes would be epic.

Okay, so it doesn't matter. At least 15. Yeah. Even an hour a day, I showed you the long COVID studies. European Society medicine. Just on my body. Just on my naked body. Over, yeah.

Your head to groin area is where you, sorry. Head to groin area. Yeah, my shitter. Nice and red lid. Yeah, then you can do your butt hole stunning that you've always. always drunk of. Yes. If people want to purchase, it's like, how much would this cost?

Oh, yeah, sure. So this is, like, they range from, like, down to, like, 800 bucks up to, like, a couple thousand. Yeah, I bet. Right? So they're with, and we'll give a code to your audience if that's fine. Of course. Yeah.

So, fighter and a kid. So which one? Fighter Kid. You, most people just put Fighter. Fighter. Fider. So Fighter, 25 for individual items and fire. to 30 for bundled items, so 25 and 30% off.

Great. Damn. Yeah. Got it. That's great. Got to help the peeps. Are you welcome? No, it's... By the way, we did not, this was not like us setting up selling this right now. No, I just, people are gonna, they're gonna, if you want red, like, it's so popular. Yeah. Yeah. And like I mentioned, like we supply to the hope for cancer treatment centers. Like, there's a reason why they're using our devices. Like you look at all these colors, right? That's nine different wavelengths. It's not just regular. So how to, you gotta teach me how to use it. So I'm gonna bring it home. My wife's just

Turn it on. You're going to love it. You just turn it on. You just turn it on. You just turn it on. You just turn it on. Yeah, but if you're looking into it, you'd take the blue out.

So you would just choose the setting where it says like red, near infrared and yellow. And so then you just take that out. And then now you can look into that, right? Look at that. And it was, so that European, sorry. So does it give off infrared? No.

Yes, near infrared. So eight up. Near infrared. But I won't get a sunburn from it. Definitely not. No, because that's mid infrared and fire infrared that's doing that. Okay. So it's got 480, 590, 630, 6.60, 6.

670. 670. Well, I just don't want to, yeah. So it doesn't have like UV light. No, it doesn't have UV light. No, it doesn't have UV light. No, it's just like I got kids. I don't want them getting like sunstroke or it's. Yeah, well, yeah. So it's got 810, 8.30, 50, 10, 1060. So that's the highest side of near infrared and it's got the 600 as I mentioned. But with kids, right, there was a study, 6,400 children in 41 clinical trials on eyesight for children. Guess what? The number one thing was to stop vision worsening in children, red light therapy. So, it was. So, it. It means that they won't have to get glasses. The Hashimoto study I was talking about, there was a group that did the red light and a group that just did selenium D3 and C. Selenium D3 and iron. And the group that did the red light in combination with the supplements got 70 times the results

of the other one, 70 of achieving thyroid hormone balance. So all your audience that got thyroid issues, which is probably half the women watching. I don't want to say that much. It's probably about five women watching, but I hear you. All dude.

Tim Tebow, thyroid. Yeah, like, so it happens to people, right? Sure. People got to fix different things. And so you got, you got real things going on in your body. And so thyroid has mitochondria. So think about this. Every organ has mitochondria in it.

Every organ needs light, and the red and the infrared is the deepest penetrating. And then you can then generate, you cause things to work. So if people got failing kidneys, red light over the kidneys. It's proven to help generate kidney function, generate liver function, reduce heart muscle scarring. You know, eyesight like I've been talking about, but macular degeneration, hence why you're trying to study. At least another 10. I'll show up.

I'll show up looking my hair. Well, brother, we can't think enough, man. Yeah, this has been great, dude. Awesome. Jonathan Otto. So surprised. Thank you, bro. You guys are so kind.

I appreciate that. So people know that site as well. It's my red light.com. Myredlight. Myredlight.com is easy. Go get it, boys. Let's go. You guys are amazing and I'm really touched.

I did two overnight flights actually. Just I, that was my second overnight flight. Appreciate you, brother. You guys are awesome and this has been a highlight of my trip. That's awesome. Love it, man.

Good luck with everything else. We know you got some other big shows to do. Yeah. Appreciate it. Well, I'm gonna need your help on that. We got you. I'll give you my number.

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