The Fighter & The Kid - What if Callen & Schaub Switched Bodies? | TFATK Ep. 1089
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This is really the fighter in the kid. Come on baby. I'm literally talking about East of Eden.
I'm trying to talk about Steinbeck. Well, Tim brought up the picture Michael Jordan and his beautiful wife and then she's Latina
I'm literally trying to I'm breaking down a chapter from the one of the great classics and Brennan goes
I'd like to see both hands on that big old pipe. Yeah
Motorbike motorbike. I'm like, hey, I'm trying to give it an Indian rub burn, baby
No, I'm gonna talk about Steinbeck. I'm a rose
underlay underlay under the bomb arose I'm talking about Steinbeck. God damn it. Andale, andale. Andale.
Andale.
Andale.
Yeah, she's pretty.
You don't become the greatest at anything and not have just an absolute dime.
Well that's right.
He is, the thing about being Michael Jordan, she's just, let me see that again.
She's just impossible.
She's just impossible.
It's just impossible.
Sometimes it's just impossible.
You think of her shoe collection.
Which one, Bar? Click on that right where your mouse is. It's just. Sometimes it's just impossible. Think of her shoe clip. Which one, bro?
Click on that right where your mouse is.
That's Pippen.
Oh, sorry, nevermind.
Get that warlock off of there.
Yeah.
Hey, go back to the bat.
Money talk.
She is just something else.
Yeah, oh no, boo.
And you know, when you're Michael Jordan, you win.
Like, it's like, if you have an argument,
it's like, why are you arguing?
Well, I'm the greatest.
You win at life.
Also don't wear that baggy of a shirt, but yeah.
I can wear anything he wants.
He's the greatest of all time.
He's going to start doing commentating for, I think,
NBC, which is going to be strange.
I'm surprised he hasn't done more of that.
Sir, he's still the richest NBA player in the world.
He's the richest.
When you have all that money.
It's like Rogan.
Why isn't he doing Fear Factor?
Excuse me?
Yeah.
Isn't Shaq?
You're right.
Mike Jordan destroys him. Jordan brand? I. Isn't Shaq. You're right.
Michael Jordan destroys them.
Jordan brand?
I know, but Shaq owns-
Shaq owns the billions.
Well, Michael Jordan-
You ever seen what Jordan makes?
No, I've never heard of that.
Michael Jordan owns, so Nike, he gets a piece of, I believe, every shoe.
No, not every shoe.
Jumpman.
Jumpman, it's their number one selling shoe.
Yeah.
And he gets a sizable chunk of that. Yeah, every year he's like top three on Forbes,
athletes that make the most money.
He is a degenerate gambler.
Yeah.
Sure.
Supposed to be pretty good at it.
As he said, you know.
But if you have that money, it's like when they're like,
oh, Daniel has a gambling problem.
Oh, does he?
He also wins a lot, because he's so competitive.
Well, they win a lot, but even if,
let's say he lost 50 mil, it doesn't matter.
They're just, they're a different league.
Yes.
Yes. Okay.
I'm going to have the answers for you right now.
Yeah.
But back to the whole, I'd love to see them to go at it.
Yeah.
To be a fly on the wall.
Get Iliya.
Somebody said that somebody said if, if we could be, if you could be invisible,
what would human beings use it for?
And this guy's like, well, we'd be crouching
masturbators and we watched celebrities fuck.
Yeah.
Ah, ready?
So Jordan's net worth is, um, 3.5 billion.
Jesus.
And Shaquille's is at around a hundred, I'm sorry,
3.5 billion.
And Shaquille's is at a hundred billion.
I don't think he's at a hundred billion.
A hundred billion? That's not true. First of all, I don't see how you, I don't, 3.5 billion and she kills is that a hundred billion. I don't think he's a hundred billion
Well, first of all, I don't see how you I don't
He owns like the likeness rights to Marilyn Monroe Papa John's Marilyn Monroe
You wouldn't you know when you see the the general insurance. He owns that he owns so much shit
No, he's not a billionaire. Well, this is a
This other site is not worth the rest of me around 500 million I mean, that's a that's a lot of Actually you might be right, this other site says 500 million.
His network is estimated at 500 million.
I mean that's a lot of money.
Now it said 500 million on this site.
Yeah, that makes sense.
The riches is like either Bezos or Elon, right?
And they're like at what, 40 billion?
The reason you should always be skeptical of that is...
Elon's number one, he's at like 229 billion.
The reason that you should always be skeptical of that is that yes, Shaquille owns a lot, but he owns it with contingencies.
Meaning because he's not running the company, he
has a stake in the company and a lot of that stock
that's fluctuating, it's just a different thing.
But regardless of what people say, he's stupid rich.
Yeah, that's a lot of money.
Stupid rich.
But he's not Elon Musk.
He's not, you know.
Well, nobody is.
It's not even, it's not, he's not, they should even compare things to him. That's a lot of money. Stupid rich. Yes. But he's not Elon Musk. He's not, you know. Well, nobody is. It's not even, it's that he's,
they shouldn't compare things to him.
That's just wild.
Well, people who like make fun of Elon Musk,
do you know that he is literally, SpaceX is,
at this point, what they're relying on
over Boeing's contract with NASA?
I mean, it's amazing.
Yeah, but you can't be the richest guy in the world
and not get made fun of.
It's just the way the world works. You also can't have a big dick and do 22 guy in the world not get made fun of. It's just the way the world works.
You also can't have a big dick and do 225 bunch of times and not get made fun of.
It's just, hey man, what?
Okay.
Well, I'm not saying me, I'm saying guys in general.
But I feel like you were just talking about yourself.
Not at all.
Oh, okay.
No, no.
But you're right.
You can't be like, like say six, four and Brown with a big old Don.
No, not get roasted.
No, 25, 25 times. And not get 25. What are we doing? What? No, it's just that's not a number
I was throwing a number out there. Okay. Yeah, or yeah, I don't know 25 30 a lot
How many do you do? You know, you know, whatever is it 36? I'm at 36 right now
No, those but those I'm a far cry from the last four to get 40. It's tough
36 36
Well 40s where things start that you got to be careful, right?
Well, I'm after getting some shit to get to 40. I think I mean that's crazy. That's pretty cool. Yeah
Those guys I'm stronger than all of them combined. Yeah, you are you beat them all up all of them in the same room
But it does not matter. No
No matter cuz gotta let's see Jordan just take his girl down though. Doesn't matter. No. Doesn't matter.
Got it.
Let's see Jordan just take his girl down though.
Okay.
Yeah.
It might be though, at his age now, he's 60.
How old is he?
63?
It might just be like, eh.
Well she's gonna be doing all the work.
Yeah, he's gonna be sitting in his chair.
Oh no, I don't wanna see his hairy asshole
going up and down.
62? Oh no, I'd watch that. his hairy asshole going up and down. 62?
Oh no, I'd watch that.
Okay.
Yeah.
That'd be a good one.
She's doing all the work there.
Stud.
Yeah.
No, I don't wanna see him doing work.
What a stud.
You think his tongue's out?
Anyways, what else you got?
That's a good question.
We have fan questions today.
It's right like this.
We do?
Yes.
Let's do it.
Got a bunch of fan questions.
Thank you so much, everyone who reached out.
Where I got to get back on a plane to Texas. Eugene, Oregon.
Doing stand up.
Oh, you're going to old Nike.
Eugene, Oregon.
Nike land.
Yes, I'm going to Eugene, Oregon. I'm going to go to Olsen's run.
You're going to see Cam Haynes?
I am going to see Cam Haynes. He's going to come to my show.
That's my boy.
I'm excited. I love Cam.
Love him.
Hilarious.
Great dude.
Great guy. Cam Haynes will be there.
You know, we'll start with an easy one.
Hey guys, this question is for you both.
If you had to pick one fight out of these to
watch, which would you pick?
Jones versus Aspenal, Ilya versus Islam,
Jones versus Alex at light heavyweight.
Jones Aspenal.
Or Tony Ferguson versus Khabib.
Prime Tony Ferguson. Oh, prime Tony Ferguson versus Khabib. Prime Tony Ferguson.
Oh, Prime Tony Ferguson and Khabib in the Prime?
For sure.
Yeah, I still think.
Right now it'd be Jones and Aspinal.
Yes.
Jones, Alex, fucking fun too though.
Jones, Alex?
Yeah, that's a fun.
Not really, because Jones wrestles.
If he's just taking them down, yeah.
But it'd be fun, it factor,
if he could land that one on John.
But definitely John, Tom. That's what everyone's waiting for. Yeah Islam in topia dead last in that though. Yes
Get prime Tony and Khabib. I stand by I think Tony. Is that right? Do you I think Khabib ends up
Getting him on his back and controlling that's cuz people forget Tony off his back was a fucking monster. He was, but so was Charles Oliveira.
So it was.
He's all right.
They're not Tony.
They're not Tony.
I don't know about Tony.
They're not Tony.
Nowhere near.
And Tony can wrestle.
Charles can't.
Yeah.
And Tony catches you in the transition.
That's where he's special.
He was so good back in the day, dude.
People forget.
When he was at his prime.
When he had such a run. He was such a booge the day, dudes. People forget people when he was at his prime, he was such a
boogeyman. Great cardio, great striking, unconventional, great submissions, great off his
back, his elbows off his back. You couldn't stay in his guard. You couldn't just pin him down
because you get eaten alive. So then guys would transition, then he'd catch you in submission.
He was so good. I think that Khabib was just, and he was more, you know what he is? He was more game
too. More game than Khabib. Also strength of schedule way better than Khabib think that Khabib was just and he was more get you know what he is He was more game to very more game than very game also strength of schedule way better in Khabib's
Could be strength of schedules like fucking Florida Atlantic. It's terrible. Yeah, I think though that our boy
Khabib was just too too good at controlling your hips and your legs and that was it
He was doing stuff at the time
I don't think that people had seen.
In other words, that was your first look with him.
So in other words, if you were Tony and you were training, you probably weren't exposed
to that Russian or Dagestani style.
Once you know what to do.
So Connor brought in Dagestanis and Russians.
And they said to Connor, don't let him close his hands.
You can bring in Dagestani wrestlers and get used to that style.
You can't bring in a guy like Tony to mimic his style was so unconventional. Yeah. It was so,
but Mike, it was way more unconventional. When you say from the most part, when,
when you're unconventional, you get a long way and then you meet a real technician, like a real
about Tony, Tony fucking like, uh, Anthony Pettis Kevin either in the prime Kevin Lee. What do you did to Kevin Leah the height of Kevin?
Yeah, prime destroyed triangle. It's in Barbosa pretty good. Yeah beat
RD beat Rafael design in the prime. I'm a big deal
It's in Barbosa. He but he fought some killers Gleason T bow. It's a fucking monster. Damn
Damn, Josh Thompson was a fucking monster. Damn. Damn.
Josh Thompson was a great fight.
Shout out to Josh.
Wow.
Danny Castillo was a beast.
Eve Edwards, monster.
Wow.
Ramsey was tough.
A hell of a run.
Yeah.
Great run.
But, you know, um.
It doesn't matter.
We won't ever see it.
Yeah.
But Tom and John is what I want to see.
Before your next question, Mark
just showed me something.
What?
What? Has to do with Brian.
No.
Oh, your IG upside down?
Did you do that? No, I did
it on purpose. No, you didn't. No, I didn't know
how to right set it up, so I was like, oh, fuck it.
You didn't do that on purpose. Well, I was so bad. It you didn't. No I didn't know how to right set it up so I was like ah fuck it. No you didn't. You didn't do that on purpose. Well I was so mad. It's all good. I really did though. My friend goes we're upside down bro. I go yeah well.
This cigar took five years to make. That to pick the tobacco. That to rotate the tobacco. That to age the tobacco. That to roll the tobacco at the right time. And here I am. My friend. Was your friend like dude this, this promo sucks? Yeah, he goes, dude, what the fuck? Brian.
Greg Sabazio.
Can't see him.
When I want good cigars, I don't go to the Dominican Republic.
I go to my Armenian friend.
He knows everything.
He said, Brian, if you're going to smoke a Dominican cigar,
it's going to dry your mouth out.
He knows everything about cigars.
It's fine.
It would be nice to see what he looks like.
I know.
He's such a good guy.
I've been smoking.
And you did this to him.
I did that.
It's your mouth.
It's your throat dry.
It's just a boomer move. It's all good, guy. I've been smoking and you did this to him. It's your mouth. It's your throat dry. It's just a boomer move
It's all good, baby
But we're talking about it
It worked. It worked worked. It did work, but it's like it's like that thing drive drove me crazy
I was like, how the fuck do I turn it back? What did I do? Shoot it on?
I don't know how that fucking drove me crazy. I was
Right upside down.
Is that right?
Yeah.
You just went with your cigar,
it was probably a little high.
Is there any way to turn it around?
Not after it's posted.
Not after it's posted.
Not after it's posted, no.
No.
Just a boomer move.
It's all right.
It's okay.
Let's take a little break.
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Okay, here's one, a little tougher.
Excluding Bobby Lee stuff,
was there ever anything you guys said on air
that ended up being controversial
that you had to apologize for later?
Yeah.
What?
Couture.
Oh, Randy Couture.
Oh.
And we felt really bad about it.
Yeah.
He didn't deserve that.
And we were just being silly and not thinking about-
It was so funny though.
A lot of times when you say stuff on a podcast, guys, you don't realize your reach.
You're just in the moment and you don't, there's no audience here.
And then when people hit you up, you're like, ah,
Randy was like, dude, what, and especially to me,
he's like, we're a small fraternity.
How can you stab me in the back?
It was really bad.
And we didn't mean to.
And Rob Dyrdek was like, that's the funny, he goes,
dude, I could not stop laughing.
It was so funny.
But I'm standing up while he's coming, like saluting.
Yeah.
And it was probably not even talk about this.
No, what the fuck? I don't want to rehash don't know we're not rehashing it it's a question
question we can be soft about no you're right and I just hated that I did that I
still feel bad about it and I apologize and Randy though I don't think so I mean
we never did anything and malicious or intentional. We never wanted to hurt anybody
No, it was all for the fun of the game. When we started to this moment
I've never wanted to hurt anybody's feelings and I've never wanted to use this platform
To criticize somebody that couldn't criticize or defend themselves
If I criticize somebody on this podcast is because they're a piece of shit or a pig and I stand by it
Yeah, but by far the biggest mistake was the Bobby stuff.
Yeah, and that's my that was that's of course I love terrible info like looking back on it.
That was just a bad. I've said sorry a thousand times with no reservations. I don't know what
else to do. But having said all that, um, overall, I think we've done a good job of for the most part,
making people laugh, especially compared to other pods. We're also you and I are also positive
I mean a bunch of times with Dana white Brian would have to be like dude
Yeah, a bunch of times. Yeah, cuz I I never I always said to you
I'd also don't want to burn that bridge either not that I need anything from them
But you know, they've the UFC's done a lot for me
So it didn't make sense
You are also a guy who is your best when you're the prince as opposed to,
like so in other words,
it's not that you shouldn't have opinions,
it's not that you shouldn't fight back,
it's not that you shouldn't say fuck off sometimes, right?
And I think that's great.
I think it's a fine balance.
I think I took your advice a little too much
and leaned too much into that.
Yeah.
And I think it actually hurt me in the long run.
Maybe.
It hurt me in the long run.
I just didn't want you to.
Because I do think you gotta put your foot down
and I went away from being maybe who I am, you know?
And so I think I leaned a little too much
letting people get away with stuff.
I would stop you when I'd see you getting emotional
and maybe saying things you were going to regret later.
That's what I would stop you with.
Sometimes I'd be like, I think he's going to regret this.
So let's have a talk before we do that.
But the Dana White stuff also gave me the platform too.
I was the only fighter at the time
speaking out against a ton of shit.
It's a double-edged sword.
It's a double-edged sword.
It all worked out.
He's fine, I'm fine.
There's no animosity, we're cool now.
This one says, it's the question for all of us.
What are your top two to three favorite lines from a movie?
My top favorite lines are, don't overcook it, it defeats its own purpose.
That's Robert De Niro in Raging Bull.
And there's a lot of reasons for why I love that line.
But mainly when Clint Eastwood in The Outlaw, Josie Wales, he goes, you a bounty hunter?
The bounty hunter says, man's got to do something for a living.
And he goes, dying ain't something for a living and he goes
Dian ain't much of a living boy
Yeah, mine are more fun and I think uh in white man can't jump we doing sizzler with lindsey snipes
What else do I reference I mean with the kids I reference fucking frozen in summer where he sings in summer.
Yeah.
That's just fresh in my mind.
Tons of dumb and dumber, tons of dumb and dumber.
Okay, Chin.
I can't remember.
So I'll go with you.
With me, I love in a Bronx tale when Chaz Palometri's
character says nobody cares.
Yeah, I like this. now yous can't leave.
Now yous can't leave.
That was actually when he locks the door.
Oh, when he locks the door, now yous can't leave.
With the micro game.
Now yous can't leave.
I mean, the greatest lines were like,
I was in the movie theater, I saw,
I remember seeing Goodfellas when Joe Pesci was like,
am I a clown?
Am I here to amuse you?
No, I don't know.
It was so terrifying, or this is Sparta.
I didn't like that line.
Okay, I think I'm a little girly too,
because the other one is from Almost Famous.
It's when she says, I always tell the girls,
never take it seriously.
If you never take it seriously, you never get hurt.
You never get hurt, you always have fun. And if you take it seriously, you never get hurt. You never get hurt.
You always have fun.
And if you're ever lonely,
you just go down to the record store
and visit all your friends.
Yeah, that's a great movie.
Such a good movie.
Fucking great movie.
People forget Jimmy Fallon is in that movie.
Yeah.
Oh wow.
That's why we forget it.
But yeah.
True.
Chyfin, you can't think of one?
One line? Not one movie, Chyfin? I don't know if it's a great line though, but it's because Edward Scissorhands is my favorite movie
Oh, I can't best exactly great
She goes hold me and then he goes I can't and then she just you know grabs
It's such a good because he has the scissors for a hand such a weird genius
Him Burton Tim Burton is a fucking genius.
My kiddos love that movie.
That's my number one.
They're not scared?
No.
Johnny Depp is scared of Coraline.
That was when Johnny Depp was proved his greatness.
Oh yeah.
Greatness.
Oh yeah.
Fuck, he's a great actor.
This is for Brian.
How much fun was it to be on the movie Old School?
What's your most crazy story about the movie
or something we might not know about Will Ferrell?
I worked with Will Ferrell, not on old school, because I just came in.
When you do a movie like that, you come in, it's your scene and then you leave.
Yeah, he was on set that day.
You're not even really talking to him.
He's not preying on that shoot that day, right?
Yeah.
And my part was really small, but they wanted me to play that character and I improvised
that line, love, it's a motherfucker. And don improvised that line, love, it's a motherfucker.
And don't worry for her, love, it's a motherfucker.
I invent, I just did that.
Todd Phillips just lets me do whatever.
And I remember my friend I met, he said,
dude, your line got a huge laugh in the movie theater.
And I didn't go to the premiere,
because I'm an asshole.
And I never do that stuff.
I bet you wish you did now.
I'm not really, I'm an asshole in general.
Yeah, true.
And I have problems and I have a huge problem
with acting and everything else. So no, I love
being with people and I love the hangover, that
was a lot of fun. But I'll tell you, I did a movie
with Will Ferrell, he was producing, it was called
The Goods. So I would, I'd come back, we'd do our scene and I'd come back and he was such a nice human being. I'm going to
tell you a story about Will Ferrell and, and fucking Adam, what's the guy, Adam?
Sandler?
No, who wrote, who wrote Talladega Nights?
Oh, his boy.
Adam McKay, Adam McKay. So those guys, those two guys, I happen to know there was a, there
was a reading at the table read and one of the big actors
did not, was not doing their job, didn't fit in.
It just wasn't working.
He just wasn't a fit.
And they didn't fire that person.
I'm not even going to tell you, they didn't fire the person
because they didn't want to be mean.
That's how nice they are. I'm serious.
They're like, man, let's just make it work.
I can't, I don't have the heart to fire.
Now that's how nice he, and so Adam, so, but the Will Ferrell,
I remember we were kind of improvising, joking around when he was like at Video Village.
And I was talking about hunting or something and I said, you're a hunter. And he goes,
yes, I hunt waterfowl. And I said, waterfowl? And he said, yes. I said, well, how do you
do it? He goes, I like to hang around the tributaries. You know, his face gets really serious.
And he's long nets.
And I capture all of them, the ducks especially.
And I said, do you release them?
He said, sometimes, sometimes not.
You know, the way he was doing it, I was just,
and he never lets you think there's a joke.
He's like, waterfowl.
I enjoy hunting.
So everything he says is hilarious.
He's quick with it too, huh?
Yeah, and he's, and you can't find anybody in Hollywood
to say one bad thing about Adam McKay or or definitely not Will Ferrell.
That's my experience. Been a long time but anyway. Okay yeah this is a three-part question.
Love the show. Any chance of doing a tour in Australia? Also is there any T-Fat merch?
We have T-Fat merch dropping when we get to Austin.
We'll bring back the Abbot Kenny Fight Club original tees
and then we're doing a Sixth Street Fight Club tee as well.
I'm wearing that shit.
Yep, so we'll be doing that.
We don't know if we're doing Sixth Street Fight Club
or Congress, Av, but we're bringing merch back.
Yeah, Sixth Street sounds more dope.
Yeah, Sixth Street Fight Club is great. We're bringing that back. Yeah. Sixth Street sounds more dope. Yeah, Sixth Street Fight Club is great.
We're bringing that back.
Then what was the, oh,
a tour in Australia would be tough.
It'd be tough.
Yeah.
You gotta remember, we have kids now.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just a different time.
Different time.
Like I stopped touring so I can be with the kiddos.
So it'd be tough to go to Australia for tour.
But when we went for Brendan's tour, it was fun.
It was insane.
The crowds are. Yeah, I don't regret any of those experiences.
We had such a good time, but now it's just different.
I can't leave the kids for two weeks. Yeah. Okay. Next question.
Will you miss the team who aren't coming to Austin?
Oh, I don't know. I don't pay attention to the employees.
You don't know anyone that works here. I mean, obviously Mark and Casey are great.
You're great. We'll miss all you guys.
Casey still work for us. Casey still full time. Mark work part time.
And of course we'll miss you. I miss the boys at Golden Hour, of course, but
yeah, I'm ready to go.
One thing about one thing, one thing if you're young, just keep this in mind,
everybody, change will always happen. And you will try to hold on to things and just bear
witness to the changes.
It'll always be kind of moving.
Nothing lasts forever.
Nothing.
I mean, we're at the commie store in 2018, 2019.
I was like, oh, this is so cool.
This will never change.
We're going to do this to where 80 and then COVID hit and then other shit hit.
It'll hit for sure.
Oh, it crumbled.
Yeah.
It just all went away.
That was my greatest heartbreak, but it's okay.
I've had them before and I'll have them again.
Don't hold on too tight and it's supposed to change.
And if you're growing, never think about the past.
Never think about the past.
You're not your past.
You're not.
You just keep moving. Keep moving.
Yeah.
I think a change would be good for us though.
With in Texas, it's just something, you know,
we're just too comfortable here.
It's too easy to sit down, do this.
Like it's going to be good.
I had a, I had a, my martial arts teacher, you know,
I was trying to really do something with my life.
And I was trying to get really good grades
and I was getting my black belt.
And I was, I was just trying to, I don't know, I was trying, I do something with my life. And I was trying to get really good grades and I was getting my black belt.
And I was just trying to, I don't know,
I was hunkering down.
I want to take my life more seriously.
And I said to my teacher, he was really a wise man.
I said, but I'm losing my friends.
Like I don't have, I'm not fostering these bonds
with my friends, I'm not spending time.
And you know what he said?
He said, I know.
He said, but guess what?
They're not your friends. There are a lot of people waiting for you on the other side
mmm he said there are a lot of people who are more dynamic and put a knife in your neck
or a lot and I went motherfucker and then he cut me and killed you and the other side
he met heaven that's right there's a lot of people on the other side right and I'm on
this side not anymore sink yeah but he said he said there are people waiting for you on
the other side of that wall.
Keep climbing.
And I went, and he goes in there,
and they're more fun, they're more interesting.
And they're more, and all that.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
Yeah, I don't know if it'd be more fun.
I think overall life, like quality of life
is better out there for me,
especially with the kiddos and stuff like that.
Yeah, fun is different, right?
When you have kids, you're thinking about your kids,
what's good for your kids,
and that's when I'm happy and relaxed.
If I'm fortifying my children's future
and I have some certainty in that sense.
Yeah, also all my friends,
my work is my social life outside the baseball, dad.
So it's like, I really don't have time for anything else.
Like I don't go to dinners, I don't hang out.
Like this is my hang.
Just happens to be my work, which is great.
You know, it is what it is.
But yeah, I think it'd be fun out there.
We've been doing this for so long, man.
Just like here in LA.
So it's just something new.
It's something new.
We'll have new people coming in.
We'll have new experiences to talk about.
Like I have the same schedule every day.
My biggest fit in the show, I know me and Brian to figure out in chin. We'll figure that out to talk about. Like I have the same schedule every day. Not my biggest fit.
The show, I know me and Brian to figure out and chin.
We'll figure that out.
Studios would be great.
Guests to be great.
Like the podcast, I'm not worried about the biggest thing for me is leaving
the baseball dance, I have such a good crew, such good kids, and you, I'm sure
that everyone feels that way.
So hopefully I'll find that in Austin.
Dude, yesterday T had a learning lesson
because it was the first playoff game, right?
And he pitches, he's the starting pitcher.
And I, it's tough cause I get worried.
It's, you know, how I'm sure dad's worry about
when the kids play tackle football, you were
about CT, if they get like their bell rung.
So I worry about tiger's arm because those
fast for a nine year old.
And I always get, you know, Tommy John surgeries up
like 80% with kids under 13
because dads are pitching them so much and throwing curves.
Tiger's only allowed to throw fastballs
and change-ups because of that.
And he wants to throw a curve so bad.
I'm like, no.
So I don't warm up a lot.
Cause I'm like, he'll get a ton of throws.
He has to pitch on Wednesday and Saturday.
So we limit him to 50 throws.
The first, I didn't warm them up properly.
Like me and him warm up together.
I do a proper warmup with them, but I didn't warm up enough.
So he started off like a little rusty dude.
Bases low first setting, first playoff game bases loaded.
I'm just sitting there like, Oh man, I didn't warm them up correctly.
That's why we do warmups.
We should have probably warmed up more.
And one of the baseball that's like, dude, what's going on? Aren't you worried? I don't warm them up correctly. That's why we do warmups. We should have probably warmed up more. And one of the baseball dads like, dude, what's
going on aren't you worried?
I don't know.
It's good format.
Let them work his way out of it.
Like this is good.
It would be bad if he just struck out every single
kid because he's going to get to a point where his
size and athleticism is going to catch up with him.
Right.
Trust me.
It's going to catch up with him.
Whether he goes to Austin, meaning other kids are
going to be like that.
There's a ton of other kids out there like that, but you know,
he's facing competition now, which is good, but they're not,
he can get by just being the bigger, faster, smarter kid.
So it's going to catch up with him.
So I'm like, no, he adversities good.
I don't want him to go fucking zero hits, no, no hits, no runs.
Like this is good bases loaded, no outs that ending.
He finally warmed up, struck out the next three, only gave up one run.
But the dad was like, how you stay so calm?
Because in the long game, this is good.
That's right.
Because he needs to deal with adversity.
If he's just dominating, that's not really baseball.
He needs to face this adversity.
Of course.
So I like it when he gets a little... And then he's not melting down.
He's just like, all right.
I go, you're still warming up?
You're good, bud. And then it's on. You can tell once he starts warming up, then he's not melting down. He's just like, all right, I go, you're still warming up. You're good, bud.
And then it's on.
You can tell once he starts warming up, then it's on.
Then it's on.
Rafael Nadal, who is one of the greatest tennis players
of all time.
Yeah, he comes with tennis stories.
Yeah, but it's an incredible sport
and incredible athletic athletes.
And he said, and it's such a mental thing,
and he said, it is.
No, I know, I know, I'm grim with you.
And he said, he said.
Tennis is a motherfucking mental thing.
Yeah, and he said, he said, they were like, you're so calm, he won Wimbledon. They go, you're so calm. He goes, No, I know. I know I'm grim with you. And he said, he said, Tennessee's a motherfucking mentally.
Yeah, and he said, he said, they were like,
you're so calm, he won Wimbledon.
They go, you're so calm.
He goes, no, I was nervous as hell.
But I, my body, what I do is I learn how to actually
train my body to act calm.
So I'll assume a calm look because it calms me down.
So my physiology, even when I'm fucking totally nervous,
you think I'm calm because I'm actually, you know,
it's all those little things, those mind tricks
that you play with yourself.
Or having amnesia after you lose a point.
Like just completely forget about it.
For T, the whole thing is mindset.
Like you gotta be a killer out there.
Dude, you hit a kid, walk a kid, kid gets a big hit.
You gotta forget about it.
I always tell them, I do not care,
you move on to the next batter.
It resets.
That's right, you reset.
You can't dwell, you reset. Huge. Huge. It's like you threw threw an interception. All good. You gotta go out there, reset, reset.
That's a huge part of it. So at nine, it's all he's working on. The athleticism's there. It's all
mentality, all mentality. But then he said to me, cause bases were low or to get bases loaded,
he hit a kid so fucking hard in the head, helmet on just wham, and then that team goes, oh shit.
So they're a little hesitant, which is kinda good.
I know this, but I'm like, and I was not upset,
I just took my glass off and stared at him.
I was like, dude.
And I just stared at him,
and then he struck all the kids out,
only gave up one run after that.
And then he came in the dugout and he goes,
hey dad, can you not look at me like that?
And I went, I'm sorry buddy, you're right, I shouldn't have done that. He goes, I don, can you not look at me like that? I went, I'm sorry, buddy.
You're right. I shouldn't have done that. He goes, I don't like when you look at me like that.
I don't know. My bad. Yeah. Yeah. But you hit a kid at 55 miles an hour in the head.
So Mike, I don't understand this. Explain this to me. So why do you keep them from throwing
curve balls? What's the difference between the curve ball, the torque on the elbow and all that.
It just creates more trauma for the whole arm. Because he, when you're throwing the curve ball, the torque on the elbow and all that, it just creates more trauma for the whole arm.
His tendons are still developing.
Because when you're throwing the curve, it creates more torque, especially down here.
Okay.
Fastball's just here.
But when you start doing all this shit and getting funky with it, that's where you get a lot of injury.
And when you get Tommy John surgery, is that because it tears or it's just...
Yeah, all this inflammation tears and over time...
And that's so painful.
Yeah.
Well, it makes some guys better once they have the tummy John says it makes it stronger
Yeah now they're really good at it, but you don't want that at under 13. It's also a huge red flag for scouts and shit
Yeah, it's like buying a used car kids get that under 13. Yeah, it's up 80%
Yeah, because they just specialize in one sport year-round. Well, okay, because now with travel ball kids play year-round
specialize in one sport year round?
Well, because now with travel ball kids play year round baseball so competitive and there's such a
money that well, they're, they're pitching instead
of, you know, instead of playing football and
basketball and baseball, they're just focused on
baseball and they're going to practice.
They have their, you know, specialized trainers
and the.
How are you going to avoid that?
You haven't played football as well?
Oh yeah.
He loves football.
Yeah.
How much did you know about baseball previous to T getting into it?
Or did you have to learn it?
I played baseball to ninth grade, but especially this is probably the last year I can be on
the field with him.
His IQ knows, he knows more about baseball than I do.
I can't even pitch to him anymore.
So now it's, he needs to get with like real coaches and he has on his travel ball team, but rec it's all dad's coaching. It's all dad's go. But my whole thing with them,
I don't give them technique or anything like that. I know the basics. It's all about mentality.
All about his mentality.
Right.
Okay. Here's another question from a fan. What is the goal for the fighter and the kid in 2025?
I know it's a broad question.
Netflix, doc.
But would you want to do a live podcast tour,
making more short films and skits,
bring back merch or have certain guests on?
Yes to all of it.
It's just a question of time
and I think Austin will spark some new creativity.
I think we'll have more time out there too.
Cause right now I'm running so thin. I think we'll have more time out there too. Yeah, you know cuz right now I'm running so thin
I think we'll have more time out there merch is coming back
We'll have more guests out there. It won't be a guest every episode, but we will have more guests
The shorts get stuff, you know, I don't know that's a whole production, right but
Okay
Here's a question. I'm sure we'll do some live shows out there. Sure. Sure. There's so many venues out there.
This is another one for all of us.
Brendan, we'll start with you.
What is your favorite submission in Jiu-Jitsu?
I can tell you DARS.
DARS Anaconda all day.
All day.
Brian, what's your favorite hunt that you've been on?
DARS.
What?
Um, uh, my favorite hunt that I've been on.
Yeah.
Probably the one with Rogan and I, the last one we ever did with Steve What? My favorite hunt that I've been on. Yeah.
Probably the one with Rogan and I,
the last one we ever did with Steve Rinella in Alaska
because we didn't see anything and we were so miserable
and wet that all I did was make like,
make him laugh.
Yeah, we just laughed the whole time.
Literally laughed the whole time.
I just kept fucking making fun of where we were,
what we were doing and shit and Rogan was howling.
And the only time that I get to really fuck with Rogan
and spend time is when we're hunting.
And I can get him away from everything.
And then he's a great audience.
And I like being a silly goose.
Somehow I clam up during the podcasts.
And I don't know why.
I don't feel fun.
Rogan?
A little bit. I need to be less serious.
You just gotta be yourself and not wait for
more of these shit.
Yeah, I've been really serious these past five years
and it's not helped me.
Really serious, cause I felt serious.
Yeah, and it would be tough not to, you know?
Especially after that you went to-
That was my biggest challenge, my biggest challenge is-
Cause you're not a serious guy overall,
but then you got real serious.
My mother said, you know, you've lost your joy.
Yeah.
See your eyes.
The light dimmed.
Yeah.
She said that.
You just changed and it became like so serious.
Yeah.
And that's anger and that's like all that shit that you go through.
And the biggest challenge is what's so funny is the conversations
you have with yourself.
Like not trying not to lose what made you special.
What, try not to lose what made you funny.
Try not to lose the joy for life.
Because I was such a Peter Pan, it was all about joy for me. It was all about being a silly goose.
But I also think what makes us different than a lot of these comedy duos, if that's what you
want to call us, is like Bobby Lee and Santino, like me and Brian have family and kids, you know?
Like it's just different. So like COVID and politics and we're older
So we're gonna get involved with that stuff. Yeah, a lot of these other comedy podcast stay away from it
But that's just not what we do. It's probably because we have kids and kids really really make you feel the world
Makes you scared. Yeah, it makes you scared. Yeah. Yeah, that's where you kind of have to address it where it's like
Yeah kids take I was never into politics and then when all the shoes go down like wait, hold up
Yeah, and they start listening to it then becomes a thing with the masks for us at first
It was like wait, oh you want to piss me off, dude
I remember you were in a you were in a I remember you're talking about you were jogging and those assholes on
Horses were like put your fucking mask, but it was kind of a good thing
Like I said, I went too far on that. People can see what
they want and no, I'm, I'm, I'm the funny guy. Like, no, I'm not this monster, you know,
big monster, blah, blah, blah. I went all the way from that. And then thank God COVID
and just having a bunch of soft friends and like all that manufacturing together and the
comics turning on each other and all this bullshit,
it like woke up the beast in me.
And then when those people on the horse were like,
you need to put on a mask, I was like,
oh, you woke up the monster.
I'm ready to fight you and the horses.
I'll punch your horse in the face.
Yeah, yeah, I'm down for this.
Chin, what's the fish you've been most proud of
to catch in your life?
The fish I'm most proud to catch.
Chin caught a, hell with it. I don't know why I just said I'll punch your horse in the face. Yeah. The fish that I'm most proud to catch. Chin caught it.
I don't know why I just said I'll punch a horse in the face.
Yeah.
Because that's a really dumb thing to say.
No it's not.
It's like blazing saddles.
I'll punch a fucking horse.
No, we're not punching animals.
No, if that horse said the same thing that guy said.
That horse would be like, really?
How about I fucking stomp your head in?
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah!
But it just kind of slapped me into it.
When the guy said that to me, I was like,
I'll be here tomorrow at 9 a.m. I'll meet you here.
But then also having two young boys,
it's like that's what, they don't need the soft dad.
That's not what they need in this world.
So that's why I'm back, baby.
I'll fucking rip your head off. I like that version of you. We were like, how about I twist your head off your fucking shoulders?
Yeah, I'm down. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you want to do. Yeah.
Whatever you want to do. All right. So I'll answer real quick. It was in Alaska. Yep.
In Alaska. Let's like, yo, just this huge halibut. Dude, not, not to interrupt chin,
chin can fish his ass off and drink like 30 beers and still
catch more fish than all of us.
He'll drink 13 drinks and be like completely normal.
That Alaska trip, I was so hesitant to go on.
It is the best vacation I've ever had.
It was a great time.
It was, I would go every year.
It is fan fucking test.
It was Tiger too though.
It was, my son talks about it once a week.
The wildlife we saw, the whales and stuff.
I mean, it's just, it's like a whole wilderness area.
It was so cool.
All right, it's here, we'll break it.
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Promos you would wake up at five get back by six and you're exhausted and you eat around the fire
It was so much fun. It was so dope
That's why I was like I'm doing all wrong. We don't need to stay at the four season all this shit
The kids don't give a fuck. I sure as hell don't I thought that's what they needed now. What the The fuck are we doing get out there? I mean tiger would pass out. It was so much fun boat
And he just beat those fucking flounders to death and just reeling in anyone that anyone that anyone that caught anything
You just beat him. I was like, yeah, was he Dexter? What the fuck's going on?
Yeah, he's a little too into love
Love beating the shit out of him. Yep
He hit the fuck out of them.
Just ding, ding, ding.
Fisherman was like, okay, dude.
Big old boy.
Then, Sinaz, if you could go back and either be in
attendance for Brendan's fight in KO
with Krop,
or would you want to watch Jordan
win game five against the Jazz?
I'll answer the question. Jordan win game five.
I don't like you answering that for me.
Yeah, what was it, the 1950s?
Shut up, bro.
I'll shut up, bro.
I have him.
Jesus Christ.
Sorry, sorry, apologize.
Again, we all know who I think the goat is.
We just had this discussion and I don't think it's Jordan.
You don't think it's Jordan?
No. You think it's Kobe.
I do think it's Kobe.
Most people don't have him in the top five. Well, okay
What I would actually I don't know if I saw you fighting
Pro cop on was good though. I might be real battle. Yeah. Oh, it's terrifying. Yeah, I probably cry croak up
I'm was sick though main card you have the
128 in New Jersey.
Stole out arena.
Yeah, it was fucking great.
In my head, I don't know how to separate
that it's a sport and you guys don't hate each other.
I would just attack him afterward.
They hate each other in that moment.
Well, I get it, but I would attack him afterward
for hitting my friend.
My head's weird like that.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
That was a good fight.
That was a fun one, yeah.
Yeah, That was where
you're like, Oh man, if man, Oh man, like that, that guy's a pro fighter and he hit, he shattered
your nose and you were like, that's not enough. Like that's when you realize that if you're going
to fight a giant like you, and if you, if I punch you as hard as I can in the face, it better be,
it better catch you in the good part of your jaw, because it's not going to be good.
You can hit a big dude, like a lot of people
don't realize that, you can be my size
and you can really be good, you can practice your punching,
and you can fucking hit a big guy like that.
If his head's here and he catches it here,
you'll break his nose, it'll hurt him,
it's not going to be enough.
Because-
Stop him now.
No.
Doesn't it immediately blur your eyes now? Oh no, not when you're angry. I didn't feel it. No. Didn't enough because. Stop him now. No. Doesn't immediately blur your eyes.
Oh no, not when you're angry.
I didn't feel it.
No.
Didn't feel it.
He's coming for you.
I remember, I thought I was just going to,
fucking dog walk crow cop.
I was like, I'm going to steamroll this old man.
And I got out, I was like, holy fuck, he's strong.
Got some tricks.
He's just so like dense and just strong.
His legs are this fat.
And then I kept taking him down.
That was the first time I, yeah.
That was the first take down I ever had.
Yeah. Your double leg.
I kept double leg just to set up the striking.
People couldn't stop that double leg.
What was it just football?
Timing, timing.
Yeah, timing.
All timing.
And speed, you were a lot faster than expected.
Timing and explosive, yeah.
But I kept taking him down.
But even when I take him down,
I try and do this pass.
I worked on black belts, everyone, but he worked with Verdoom and was ready for it
and just kept punching in the face.
I was like, Jesus Christ, man.
Yeah, that was a war.
Yeah, war.
That was cool.
Um, this one is for Brendan.
I'm at 165 for eight reps fresh at bench.
I want to be part of the 225 bench club.
I want to be a diesel dad.
Is there anything like plyometric pushups after each set of bench to do, or do I need
a situation steroids?
Uh, I don't know if you need steroids.
Uh, TRT would help for sure, but if he's at 165 for five, he's close to 225.
I mean, also you're, you're also also like, he's strong 165 for
five. How much did he say ways though? He didn't say that. So,
so here's the thing, if he's over 200, did we ask to get him
up on? Yeah, I was going to say also 165 for five with all due
respect, isn't that hard? I can do that. I did something
recently. I'll videotape it for you. If you're me, if you're doing 165 for five,
you're not strong and you're not diesel.
It depends how much he weighs.
Yeah, if you're 40 pounds.
Diesel dad's a mindset though too,
and we do have diesel dad merch coming for Father's Day.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Aw.
But it depends how much he weighs for 165.
But the whole thing with bench,
what should I do to get better bench bench?
What you should do is max out and then rest a minute
and then squeeze out as many as you can.
Rest five minutes, squeeze as many as you can.
That just keeps the reps coming.
It keeps building on the reps.
But the only way to get a bench is by benching.
And do some pushups at night.
Okay, this one's for both of you. Christian wants to know,
have any of either of you ever rolled jujitsu with Joe Rogan? If you have,
how did it go?
I rolled with Joe long time ago when we were at Carlson Gracie studio for just a
couple of minutes. I remember that nothing. It was just, we were just,
we were both white belts.
Joe's a beast though.
Don't get it twisted.
Joe's a legit black belt from what I understand.
I would never.
I just have too much respect and I wouldn't go hard.
It's just this weird thing.
Me and Joe have never done any of that stuff.
Also Joe knows, he also knows that that's,
Brendan's really, really just much bigger.
And it's really hard when you're a black belt and you're of a different frame.
I've seen this over and over again.
You can be so good.
You can be literally like one of the best in the world.
If you weigh 165, I'm sorry, but when you're with a giant black belt who did
it for as long as Bren Brendan, it doesn't work.
It just doesn't, it's fine, but I've seen it over and over.
He's a lot older than me too, and he's such a mentor,
I would never hurt him or even attempt doing that stuff.
Like me and Brian would fuck around,
but Brian's like, you know, it's different.
I would just let him do whatever.
Like I wouldn't try hard.
I've seen you do that.
I've seen you roll with a,
I've seen you roll with really high level guys.
And you, when we were doing that round robin
and you were like, you were just kind of rolling around.
No, now if it's a guy's my size
and I know he's going full go, then it's game on.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, it's game on.
Yeah, I've seen that too.
I've seen when, the problem is when guys kind of challenge
you and then they're really big.
Then I'm on.
And then you go, I'm going to have to.
Yeah, then it's on. Then I bust out all the tricks. Then it's on really big. Then I'm on. And then you go, I'm going to have to. Yeah, then it's on.
Then I bust out all the tricks.
Yeah.
Then it's on.
Yeah.
Then I'm game.
Yeah.
That was, that was, how long ago was that when we were
rolling it at Tarek's and, um, power?
Eight years ago?
That was when Jake gave Tarek his black belt.
Yep.
Eight years ago, Brian?
Yeah.
And you were, you were legitimately rolling back then.
Yep.
Yeah. This question were, you were legitimately rolling back. Yep. Yeah.
This question's for Brian. I don't like when they call you Rinks, by the way.
I do.
What's his nickname?
I gave him that nickname.
I don't like it. I don't know.
Go on.
It's a great nickname or it's Big Gay Owl. Which one do you like? Pick your poison.
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Now here's the thing, with psoriasis,
so they're finding that autoimmune diseases like this
a lot of times are linked
to the gut.
But I'll tie stress into this for a second.
It's all stress.
I had, I did a gut profile by two different places.
And I had a prevalence of a certain bacteria that is connected to certain-
Nightshades.
No, no, it's connected to certain-
Semen.
Autoimmune diseases like psoriasis.
I changed my gut profile, got rid of that bacteria, it never came back.
But there's another thing about stress.
When apparently you have stress, the mucus lining in your stomach that covers, like that
protects you, retracts for a weird reason.
And when it retracts, foods like nightshshades whatever you might be allergic to can create
Exacerbate the the autoimmune reaction already. So you you you know, you'll you'll
Respond to wheat or whatever it is. But once I changed my cup profile
I never had Brian gets the right system when he's going through the whole cancellation shit
And then I had psoriasis when I was doing with all my shit. Remember it was all over my legs.
Oh, that's right.
It was bad.
That's right. Divorce.
Dude, I thought it was, yeah, yours.
Divorce, cancellation.
Yours was perfect storm.
COVID.
Yours was perfect storm.
Disaster.
And then mine was just all the bullshit I was dealing with.
And then once I wasn't, once that went away and I wasn't stressed, it all went away. But when it
first started, I had like a big splotch on my, I thought I was Tom Hanks from Philadelphia. I was like, oh, I have AIDS.
I remember that.
I have AIDS.
That's how stressed you were.
I have AIDS and then it was all over my legs, all over my arms. And I thought it was from the fish
tanks, constantly being like changing out the water, those are the chemicals. It was just all
the stress.
Stress is a huge part of your life.
Stress kills people.
Yeah.
It was just all the stress. Stress is a huge part of your life.
Stress kills people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know how to get rid of stress, everybody?
I swear to God, just tell the truth.
Just fucking tell the truth.
Just align yourself.
No, that doesn't work.
Cause when you're dealing with like your cancellation and divorce, like that has
nothing to do with it.
Sometimes stress comes financially.
There's no telling the truth.
No, yeah.
Yeah.
That means that doesn't help anybody.
Tell the truth.
But, but just also you'll, you'll be stronger if you just,
if you just fucking get rid of all the lying.
What I mean by lies is lying to yourself.
I just mean like, you might be in a job you hate,
might be in a relationship you hate,
whatever it is, just you're lying to yourself.
Just sometimes you have to purge
and just have to just align yourself with the truth.
No matter what it is.
That doesn't help too many people,
because also, like some people work in a job, like it has to pay the bills. Like that's what they have to just align yourself with the truth. No matter what. That doesn't help too many people. Cause also like some people are working a job,
like it has to pay the bills.
Like that's what they have to do.
That's right. That's true.
And the truth, the guy,
that's true.
The guy has the truth.
Cocaine's a nice couple bumps.
This guy has the truth.
The guy's truth is this job sucks,
but I have to do it to feed my kids.
Well then that's the truth.
That's fine.
But he knows that,
but you're still gonna be stressed as fuck.
Yeah.
Create your way of life.
Sometimes there's not a catchy saying for this shit.
That's true.
Sometimes everyone goes through stress, man.
That's true.
Sometimes, sometimes there's not a catchy saying.
Sometimes, that's a great line.
Yeah, there's not a catchy saying for this.
Sometimes there's not a catchy saying for this situation.
Sometimes the only way out is through.
Sometimes you gotta fucking just bite the bullet.
The catchy saying is you don't stop.
There you go.
That's the catchy saying. And I'll is you don't stop. There you go.
That's the catchy saying.
And I'll tell you this,
if you're going through a really hard time,
don't not work out because you quote unquote
don't have time.
Don't start eating shit food
because you don't have time to eat well.
Don't do those things.
People fall into these weird traps.
Think about me when I had psoriasis.
I didn't work out me for six months
in the longest I've ever gone.
For you that's insane.
And you were drinking.
And you were doing Adderall. I was drinking or overdose on an adderall every day
Crate them like I was just fucking a drug addict basically an alcoholic and an alcoholic and didn't work out
It's 10 in the morning. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I never put it together. I don't know why I didn't say hey
I was dealing my own shit. Yeah, so what I know I was like no one noticed you were just so swollen
Yeah, and that's what you don't do don I was like, fuck. No one noticed. You were just so swollen.
Yeah.
And that's what you don't do.
Don't do that.
The worst that way.
Assume the position.
Like, behave.
It's like that great saying, behave as though God exists.
Behave as though you're killing it.
Even if you're going through hell, get that workout in.
I don't give a fuck if it's 10 minutes.
Just do 10 minutes.
Do five minutes.
That's going to help you deal with the stress. Yes. I don't give a fuck if it's 10 minutes. Just do 10 minutes, do five minutes. Just start with that.
Yeah, it's gonna help you deal with the stress.
Yes.
Yeah, I had alcohol problem,
Adderall problem, stress with the family,
stress at work, and then-
Wrestling with sexuality, there's so much going on.
All that, can't get enough black cock,
and then also dealing with people stole
two million dollars from us.
Oh, there was that.
Yeah, there was that.
And then, and then that, and then that's when the fucking killer came out.
I was like, say less.
Yeah.
No more Mr.
Nice guy.
I remember someone told me when I was going through a hard time once and it
was the best advice ever was the only way out is through.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a hallmark card, but some of that stuff that triggers me.
It's like, but it's, but you just gotta keep going.
What was it you said one time?
It's like, people who post inspirational messages
on Instagram, none of those people are killing it.
Never, never.
No, no, none of those people are killing it.
Hey, stop talking about what you have to do.
Just do the thing.
Amen. Never, never.
Yeah, and another thing for you guys out there,
is that for us? Who are you doing this for, buddy?
Yeah, and I don't need fucking seagulls
in the background of your dumb fucking message.
This question's just silly.
A lot of men swing the other way when they go to prison
due to lack of women company.
Brandon, if you got stranded on an island with Brian,
how long would it take for you
to turn him into your man wife?
This is a good question. Three hours.
Yeah, it's a good question.
And I would struggle. Three answers, Three hours. Yeah, it's a good question.
And I would struggle.
Three answers, three hours.
No, I can't.
Because I would just figure, we're not getting off this island.
Why wait?
And I would be like this.
And they're like, bro, you're in Hawaii.
Oh, you're just gay.
Dude, we're in Hawaii, bro.
I swear to God there's a boat coming.
Buddy, you're in Tahiti.
There's people everywhere.
There's a cell phone right there. You never know, man. There are clouds in there's a boat. He'd eat. There's people everywhere
You never know man in the sky which means this this this hurricane could both waves are picking up man I don't know pick up the fuck Brian take a spot on the wall cuz I'm gonna fuck Brennan just gate
No, no, I didn't think we'd get out and then I would say this I go. Can we guys were in a four seasons?
And I go can we not can I at least face you?
Absolutely, no now cuz, can I at least face you? Absolutely not.
No, cause I got to look at your limp cock and balls.
I never thought of that, but some guys have, that's how a lot of guys like, it's, I always
think of gay sex is, you know, the guys on his, on his hands and knees.
No, no dude.
Sometimes it's face to face.
You understand?
Yeah, I know.
I know, but.
I feel sick.
No, hey, hold on. I know, but.
I feel sick.
No, hey, hold on.
Get your, get the knees on the shoulders.
Hold on, take it easy.
Like guard?
Probably, listen, why not?
We gotta look at each other sometimes
because we're in love, you understand?
But then your stick's on the tummy.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Oh God, I feel sick.
So wait, so.
This is how I know you're good.
I've never thought of this.
Everything's over here.
I know, I know. Why are you thinking of that? Because there's a, there's a. This is why you have ps's over here. I know I know why are you thinking?
Because there's a there's why you have psoriasis. No, there was a fight in your danis. Nope. I saw a thing on South African jails
South South South African whales jails
This guy went to the worst jails in the world and there was a guy who ran the South African jail and he would fuck dudes
Face to face that means no, it doesn't make me gay.
It's just what I do.
He makes my, cleans my, washes my clothes,
cleans my fucking thing, and he goes,
and I have sex face to face, like that.
He was a total psychotic.
And I was like, wow.
A total gay man.
A very gay man.
So sometimes you gotta bang.
This all goes back to telling the truth.
It goes back to telling the truth.
It's a gay face to face kissin' him in the chin.
That'd be tough.
Where it's like, hey listen, I'm gonna fuck ya.
And you're gonna look me in the eye.
And that would be Four Seasons Tahiti where I was like, we're not on a stranded island.
Yeah, I feel sick. What else you got? Get me out of here.
Okay, okay. This is another one for Brendan.
To make fights more exciting and maybe produce
more stars should the UFC scrap the win bonus and replace it with a finish bonus?
Uh,
that's an interesting question.
Yeah.
I, I would see, I would like it if they didn't limit to, what is it?
Three now performance bonuses or like, you know,
they do three performance bonuses.
I think if you get a finish, if you get a finish,
there should be a bonus, whether you're on the prelims
or the main card.
So if there's 15 finishes, you're giving out
15 finished bonuses and maybe it's 25K on top of whatever
your pay is or 50K, but that would incentivize those guys
to go for the finish.
And then the daggy standings are like, what about me? Well, that's your problem.
Yeah.
Okay.
So they have four post-fight bonuses.
I'm saying it would be nice if they did 50, but if it was 25 for anybody that
gets a finish, anybody on top of the four performance bonuses.
gets a finish anybody and on top of the four performance bonuses so if you get a finish and a post fight bonus you're looking at 75k 50 and 25 25 for the
finish 50 for the fight of the night that'd be cool
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Will we ever see Skylar Aston back on the podcast?
Those episodes are hilarious.
Just saw that man at USC. I was just thinking about it.
It was so great.
We, we, we hung out.
Um, it was so good to see him.
He's still funny as ever.
He's crushing it.
So talented.
He's on Broadway and shit.
So talented.
You know what?
He was in the Oscars.
I got to call him because I, I miss Skylar and we miss him and, uh, he's on Broadway and shit. He's so talented. You know what? He was in the Oscars.
I got to call him because I miss Skyler and we miss him and he's great, man.
Was he at the Oscars?
Yes.
What's he up to?
Singing.
He's on Broadway and shit.
He's doing a lot of shows.
He's huge.
He's killing it.
Yeah, he's so talented.
He has his own show on ABC or NBC, I think.
He's great.
He's crushing it.
Yeah, he's really great, man.
He used to sing the intro for the Big Brown Breakdown.
He did a bunch, dude.
We love Skyler. He's the best. Yeah, I just had a the intro for the Big Brown Breakdown. He did a bunch, dude. I actually did like at least three. We love Schuyler.
He's the best.
Yeah, I just had a great time with him.
We were there and hanging out.
He was with the guys from Rage Against the Machine or something.
He's so talented.
Yeah, killer.
All right, let's go past that.
Yeah.
He's the good guy.
He's a handsome bastard.
So talented.
He's a voice in Wreck-It Ralph?
No. Yeah, he is. That's John C. Reilly.
No, he's not the voice.
So help me Todd, he was in that.
Go up, go up.
Wreck-It Ralph.
Roy.
Yeah, he's one of the characters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, look, he's an actor.
Pitch perfect, he was fair.
He's an actor.
Amazing.
Yeah, he's stupid talented.
I do remember he was on Grey's Anatomy.
He had a little arc there.
Yeah, he was.
He was a little bit of a
I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I he's always working. Stupid, talented. I do remember he was on Grey's Anatomy.
He had a little arc there.
Trolls-topia.
Yeah, I love Skyler.
Love him, love him to death.
Okay.
Yeah, this is another show he was on
that was like popular.
So Help Me Ton.
I didn't see it.
Oh, it's CBS, I said NBC, it's CBS.
I never saw it.
You guys get it.
Yeah.
Brendan, what was the big change in your car life?
I mean, you used to be a Ferrari GT2 sport car guy.
Now it's all about trucks and being quote, I'm American and proud. What caused the big change?
A ton of stuff.
I'm still, I'm still in the Porsche.
I'm looking at Porsche right now.
Yeah.
COVID and just the whole political landscape.
The attack on America.
But yeah, the attack on America, the whole transition
to electric cars and dependent on Chinese charging stations.
And then the biggest thing too is like my favorite thing
to do is mod cars.
But when I mod my exotics, it ruins the value of them.
Like it fucks them.
Really?
Destroys them.
Cause you mod a Porsche.
Especially a Porsche.
Yeah.
Like I modded my GT2 and then when I had sold it, I had to
put it all back to stock and it took forever.
It was super expensive.
And there's no more purists than a Porsche fan.
Like the pure Porsche guys, they'll follow everything.
And not, not that they're fans.
They'll follow it to make sure you don't mod it because they know you're going to sell it. So when I put mine up for sale, they're like, don'll follow everything. And not that they're fans, they'll follow it to make sure you don't mod it.
Because they know you're going to sell it.
So when I put mine up for sale, they're like,
don't touch it.
He modded this, he did this.
You're like, holy shit, you guys pay attention.
The Ferraris, you want to mod them?
Okay, you're looking at least 30,000
to touch any mod on it.
15 to 20,000.
So it was actually my brother's like,
man, you should get into some of the Ford stuff,
some of the diesel stuff, some of these American,
the LS platforms, all that stuff, the Hellcats,
because you can mod the fuck out of those
and nobody cares.
So it was a combination of two things,
the anti-American movement and the assassination
of like all the shit when it comes to American cars. and I like V8s and most of that's American so it's like V8 all that and the mods really it's the mods and there's cool shit you can do and it's way cheaper way easier.
You would never mod a Ferrari.
People do. Yeah but.
But the value goes. Wow.
So when you go to resell it you're fucked. Damn.
But certain American cars you mod increases the mod.
You want the original seats, you want your.
Can't touch them.
And I like to touch everything.
I don't buy anything and leave it like everybody else.
You have real probs.
That's what I like to do.
No, you got probs.
It's my passion, but I've always done it.
I've always fucked with everything I've had.
But why?
That's what I like to do.
Isn't it better when it comes out of the stock?
No, god
That's gay this I know you fuck guys face to face
When you mod a car it actually enhances the car. It should be is meant to be
If you do the right mods, it actually makes a car better a better drive everything but it's more efficient
I gotta just ask a question, but I'm also growing up, I'm also not chasing
horsepower anymore.
Like I have the, you know, the thousand horsepower cars,
I have the 1300 horsepower trucks, they're tough, man.
Like the sweet spots like 7800, they're perfect,
reliable, you can drive them every day.
When you're chasing horsepower, you're chasing the drive.
If I got a truck for Texas, what would I get?
Nothing.
Wait till Tesla makes a truck.
That flying car and fuck guys face to face.
A Rivian.
That's an electric truck.
Should I get that little aeronaut,
that motorcycle that flies?
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Yeah.
Fly that naked.
Put my boyfriend on the back of it.
Or actually, I'm in the back.
You won't fit on there.
No?
You're gonna have to get a Twink,
because that's what you're lifting me. So then maybe fly the aeronaut and then get...
No, just fly, just use the aeronaut that doesn't have many miles.
Or just have sex with guys and not buy that aeronaut.
Just that.
I think it's a volanaut or something like that.
You and Sam Tripoli always turn me into a power bottom.
If I say something to Sam that's anti-conspiracy,
he goes, Brian is fucking just taking it.
Just, you know.
What is this?
That's me getting power bottomed.
That's him getting fisted.
That's him getting fisted.
I'm just getting my shit cleaned out.
Yeah.
Okay, here's a two part question.
You just give off that vibe.
Yeah, my shoes.
So this is two parts.
I like the shoes.
If Brendan and Brian had switched bodies
like Freaky Friday for a week,
what are the things they'd be doing
and who thinks they can act more like each other
if they were to switch bodies
and convince their friends and family?
I would go around just tapping the shit out of everybody.
I'd go around in Austin, I'd be like,
look who's in town, then Ang, then Ang, then Ang.
And I'd go, just just wanna throw my weight around.
That's what I would do.
Do you think that people would believe you were Brendan?
No, because I'd be giggling too much.
Yeah, they'd be like, why are you dancing all the time?
Yeah, and it's Prince.
And then what about you, B?
I'd do some real dirty shit to his wife.
Oh my God!
What the fuck?
Oh my God!
Oh my God! real dirty shit to his wife.
Where she'd be like, what the fuck is going on?
It'd be like someone lending me their fucking ZR one. They're going to get it back.
That thing's where'd you take it off roading?
Oh dude.
Yeah.
What happened?
I'm like, then we'll switch back.
I'm like, thanks bud. Here's the keys.
Why didn't I think of that? I don't know why. Oh my God.
That's, I mean, you are an outrage, the bother of my two young children.
Kids gotta go down for a nap, right?
We need the babysitter seven days a week. Like this week you do.
Oh man. Yeah. Well, listen, that's bad.
You asked. It's fair. It's fair. Attractive lady. Very attractive lady.
I cannot get over what just happened. She'd be like, why are you renting a babysitter?
Why are you always in blackface? Like, I thought this was our thing. This is so uncool.
Why are you videotaping this? It's for Brian later.
Oh, no.
Okay, here's kind of a thoughtful one.
If you had to choose between storming the beaches
in Normandy or living out what happened in Lone Survivor,
Mark Wahlberg movie, which would you choose each of you?
Lone Survivor because Normandy, you lose all your friends.
Normandy was hellish.
Normandy was I just, you're just running towards bullets
and praying to God that one doesn't hit you.
It's just total chaos.
And it was.
Lone survivor, at least I have somewhat of a chance.
I'm dying in both because I don't have the skillset,
but lone survivor.
I'll take my chances athletically against those Afghanis.
You know, Marcus Luttrell was so broken up and up and beaten up gave all the money that he made from that movie in the book to
His team marx latrell you're thinking of american sniper. No marx latrell was a lone survivor. Oh, yeah
That was chris kyle. That's right. Chris kyle his family donated the money too. Yeah
Yeah normities mayhem yeah okay that new that
new Jason Bin Laden doc on Netflix oh really oh really they dropped last
night that should have make your American dick so oh yeah oh you should
watch it I will so you get some bad well they have all the head anti-terrorism people.
Oh, and they're talking about when they're watching
the planes crash and the head CIA guy goes,
well, there could be one head for us.
He goes, okay, then we'll die, but we have to stay here.
Like that's what happens.
He's like, we're in war.
He's like, then we're going to die.
And he's like, this wing's going to die. That's the plan, but we got to stay here and track it
down and do our job. That's what everyone signed up for. He goes, and nobody bat an eye. And they
were talking about when Bush was like, I want these guys and his head guy there at the time,
his head guy at the time was like, well, it's going to take us six months to, you know,
get to Afghanistan and do the thing. And then a guy not even around the table, sitting in the back goes, I'll have flies
sitting on his eyeballs in six weeks.
And he goes, you're hired.
They called him the FUD.
They called him the eyeball guy.
And he took the job.
Yes.
He said, he said, sir, because so Kofor Black said, I think it was Kofor Black who said
it.
So he was a guy not sitting at the table.
He was in the back and doesn't really speak up.
Kofor Black said, and I'm really not allowed to I he said sir the their eyes will be they'll die with their eyes open and flies will crawl across their eyeballs and
George and George Bush went you're high
And do you know what do you know what Kofra black said to the triple nickel team the team that the first team that went in
They said what's the mission sir?
And he said I want his head Osama Bin Laden's head in a box
and dry ice on my desk.
And he goes, ha ha.
And he goes, I'm dead serious.
That's what I want.
He goes, those are the clearest marching orders
I've ever had.
You wake up the American, you let slip the dogs,
the American dogs of war.
Good luck.
It's going to be a bad, bad day.
It'll be better.
And when they knew the Taliban who were
protecting Bin Laden stuff were in like
the caves and the mountains, they released more bombs there. Most bombs they've ever
dropped since World War II. And just, and they all retreated. We blew them the fuck up. They
thought they got Bin Laden, but they didn't there. Then you know the rest is history.
Yes.
The boys got a hold of them.
Then you know, the rest of the rest is history. Yes.
The boys got a hold of them.
Here's a question for both of you.
What are your thoughts on the GFL canceling
their events in LA and do either of you think
they will ever have an event at this point?
I don't know that that stuff's always a gamble.
You know, I think what happened with them is
they had a good idea and it gave an outlet to
fighters, which I support. But then the amount of money it costs to put a
promotion like that on is such an enormous amount of money.
And their backer was just, you know, probably seeing all the negativity
and ticket sales was like, I'm out, man.
And so their funding went away.
So they're looking for funding.
I bet the pop-up somewhere eventually, but you know, it's tough.
I don't know.
PFL is eating cock right now.
Like UFC is the only one making a profit. They're not making a profit. They they're looking for funding. I bet the pop-up somewhere eventually, but you know, it's tough.
I don't know.
PFL is eating cock right now.
Like UFC is the only one making a profit.
So it's a monopoly.
It just is.
But all major sports leagues are.
It's not necessarily a bad thing,
even though people want to hate on it.
Okay.
Will you guys be attending any Texas football games like Joe Rogan does?
Oh yeah.
I'll be, I'll be going to the baseball games though, because I know the
hitting coach for the Texas Longhorns.
I have a, uh, can I just play baseball?
No, my three year old.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But for T for T and Basti who play baseball
But their number one ranked team in the nation Wow. Oh, this is not a protein. This is a high school team
It's a college team. That's why you can't come
That's why I don't want you around now that no you're not coming. No, I just wanna be embarrassed No, but it's for my son and you like tell him stories and shit and then we won't get his stories, you know, yeah
What is it the Texas Longhorns? stories, you know? Yeah. Now let me come, what is it?
The Texas Longhorns?
Yeah, that's high school.
Go to high school.
Let's go guys.
Brian's gonna come in on his helicopter.
Yeah.
So that'll be cool.
Yes.
No, Texas football's number one and their baseball team's number one.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Brendan, do you do the fact that you're moving to Texas and letting Eric and Chris take over
Golden Hour essentially, do you have any plans on starting something similar while down in
Austin?
I think you're busy enough.
I would say you never know.
No, I don't have any plans.
I wouldn't launch another comedy podcast.
You never, to Brian's point, you never know but know, I could use a break, man.
Yeah, I think so.
Kinda touched on this in the last episode,
what do y'all think of Makachev moving up to welterweight
and vacating his title?
I called that a long time ago.
He's gonna be a problem.
Without the weight cut, he's a real problem.
Okay.
I think also he'll be very strong at 170 in terms of not having to cut so much weight.
Yeah, that's what I just said.
Yeah, it'll be good for him.
But I also think for JDM, he had the perfect dress rehearsal against a lower level version
of Makachev fighting Balal.
So he's kind of gone through it.
Then he has Craig Jones in his corner, who's the Dagestani
assassin. Every fighter he coaches beats Dagestani's. He just has that special sauce. Oh really? Yeah.
Austin Dotson wants to know,
when did you two first meet and what sparked such a beautiful friendship? Boy, we've gone over this story 1,000 times. Yeah.
But go ahead.
Met him in Vegas.
I was brought in by Nate Marquardt to.
Tough 14.
Talk to Tough 14.
And I walked in and I went, I,
because I had talked to Nate about not reading,
you know, psychologically, mindset, mindset, mindset,
you know, performance mindset,
because I had gone through my own battles with him.
He found it very helpful.
He said, can you talk to the guys about it?
And I was like, I get in there and I'm like, oh,
this is not the place for me to talk about this.
I think I'll just be funny.
And then you guys came to my show that night.
Yep.
Me and Shane Carwood.
And then you were living very close to me.
I was, the next week I was moving to
Venice, California.
We just started hanging out really.
We just got along, man.
And just got along. I didn't really know any fighters, you know,
back then.
Yeah.
And, but what I thought was interesting was that
you weren't a meathead.
Like you were this giant guy who was really
interested in other shit.
Yup.
And I was like, oh, and then.
You used to always correct my English.
Remember how bad my English was?
Yeah, it was bad.
Yeah.
Well, you just didn't have an education.
You majored in sports.
So we would sit on a plane and I would like, I
would tutor you.
Yeah.
Because it wasn't, I knew how smart you were, it was just more that you just hadn't have an education. You majored in sports. So we would sit on a plane and I would like,
I would tutor you.
Because it wasn't, I knew how smart you were.
It was just more that you just hadn't been exposed
to certain things.
Remember I would say, I'd go, you have to know this stuff.
And then you would.
And then you would hang out with me and some of my friends
and you'd be like, oh fuck, I got some holes in my.
You guys are the dumbest guy in the room.
According to that stuff.
Yeah, and that stuff.
Like history.
It's not dumb, it's just that you weren't exposed to it.
And so we ended up fucking, but it was just hanging out
and then we just spent time together.
And then it was Brian's idea to start a podcast.
It was all comedy, man.
It was just laughing.
It was fun.
We would just hang out and have a laugh, right?
We'd just go hang out and my friends would always say
who are comics, they would always be like,
that guy's really funny or he tells good stories or he's, they're always surprised that you could hang the way
you did. And you were so interested in what we were doing. Never about sports or fighting.
No, like they'd ask you about fighting and you're like, yeah, that's great. Anyway, you
know, it was like, ah, Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Is a simpler to be fair to is a simpler time
because people didn't know that UFC too much. didn't know the UFC I was like this mystery. I just came to the town. Yeah, we neither well, I work bigger than everybody else
I didn't have kids, you know, so I was just I didn't have a girl. So I was just hanging out
Yeah, I know he's just hang and girls I called you hungry eyes cuz all the girls liked you
you were also this he would come to these parties these Hollywood parties and we'd have like lots of famous people and
He would stand with his legs super wide open
because he was really self-conscious of being so tall.
And he'd be like, he goes, hey, I'm enormous,
I don't feel good about it.
That's too big.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm enormous.
Excuse me, I'm enormous.
This one's pretty good.
It's asking you what's the biggest thing you've learned after having kids?
I'm 27 now and have so much more under my belt, but how would you feel about having
kids at my age?
Age 27?
I didn't have my first kid until I was like, I was tiger nine, so I didn't have my first
kid until I was 30 something, 32, 33.
Right?
Oh, no, it's 34 if he's nine, right?
Kids the best thing I've ever done.
It's so cliche and it's all.
What's the biggest thing you learned?
Nothing else really matters.
Like I, you know.
Yeah, for me, it's somebody else's happiness is more important than my own. And that includes
their mother. And there's nothing really cool about being a man and knowing that other people
come first. And they're more important than you are. I think especially for what we do,
like especially as comics, podcasters, like it's all about you, you're on the road,
you're the star of the show. Then you get home and it's, no one gives a fuck.
Yes.
Like, it's not about you. The kids have to get to school, kids have baseball, kids dealing
with this at school. Like, it's not about you.
Yeah.
Like, it's so good for guys that have always kind of lived one way.
You also have very little control, I hate to tell you in life. It makes you look up a little bit more.
I think the biggest thing for me too is, and it's just this is facts, 75% of the time you spend with
your kid are in his first 12 years. After that, he goes on and do his thing. He's his friends, family,
and all that shit. So once I saw that, I'm like, holy shit, I gotta make it count.
So that's when I started coaching T's teams
and being at every practice and Bostie's practice
and get more involved.
That scared me.
Okay.
Here's one for both of you.
What's one thing about each of you
that you would want us to know since you've been so open
with your lives? You know everything. You guys kind of got it. I mean, you guys really are who you
are though. I can attest to that. I know no secrets here. I mean, I'm no, the internet has tried to
tell you one thing, but they're so off. I'm as big an idiot. Like I'll see the internet say stuff about whoever in our universe
Whoever it is not not just Rogan like Dave Smith or whoever it is
Schulte Theo. Oh my god. They're so off. They're so no. Oh my god. They're so off. We all do it
We all do it. You get to know somebody it's different
You guys want one more do you want to do current events I
Think we're good you're good different. You guys want one more? Do you want to do current events?
I think we're good. You're good?
Current events, let's do current events.
We'll do like a couple.
We'll do a couple.
We'll do a couple.
I think one of them we should definitely do.
Which one?
So a lot of people saw this clip of Theo Vaughn
getting a little aggressive with a fan
We have the clip of that and then we have the fans
Explanation. Yeah, I listen to the fire. Let me hear the fan. I don't know what's going on
Can I just give you the footnotes cuz this guy's annoying? No
Let me hear him
All right, give us the seal on thing. What's right without before even show me what the fan said before you even know
I mean
Clearly the fans drunk right
But Theo has take a little accountability like if you're gonna hang out bars
Like you're gonna deal with drunk people like bar serve alcohol
I don't know if this guy was that drunk so you're dealing with dumbasses
But you're dealing with dumbasses like and Theo's so famous now. Yeah, he was so famous. He's at the Trump shed
He's you know, he's on Rogan. He has his shows massive. There was that a different level now
So Theo just has to be smart and also not hanging out at bars because nothing good is gonna come from it
But let me see what this idiot said. So first this is the video that was on TNZ
You can tell Theo to like back and he's holding balloons
So you're watching the guy invade Theo space and feels like back the fuck up dude
If you'll grab by the neck proud of them
So I put that hard scarf on his ass, so what's the fans say there you'll see here
Fred put that hard scarf on his ass. So what's the fan say there? You'll see here.
Hey, I'm the fan who got choked out by Theo Vaughn. Let me tell you what actually happened.
So I'm not just a random fan. I live in Nashville. I play music full-time. That's me.
All of this happened on May 2nd. You can see right there.
Which also happened to be my birthday. I had my gig from 6 o'clock to 10 o'clock.
My friends brought me cake. They brought me balloons, the bar brought me sparklers. So when Theo walked in, he didn't have any
security with him, so people were walking up to him, talking to him, taking photos.
I finished my show, this was like 10, 18, nobody in my party had talked to him yet,
not even me. We thought it would be a funny video idea to get him and me popping my birthday
balloons together, because he's a comedian. I was trying to be courteous because he's not working at the moment
so in this next video you can actually hear me say I don't want to interrupt
their conversation yeah but you did I was waiting my turn to talk no that
matters everybody was all just standing around it just looks like a misunderstanding. Nobody bothering anybody. I mean, I'll show you the full video.
That's the guy I was waiting for who I didn't want to interrupt.
He doesn't seem like a bad guy. It sounds like a misunderstanding.
Let me see what happens.
This is where the video that you've seen starts. I went up and
I said, will you pop some balloons with me? He turned away and looked like I said something offensive. I leaned in and said that now But what happened was a completely uncalled for reaction, especially when you consider the facts that nobody in my party had been badgering him for hours.
Well, he doesn't know that.
We hadn't even talked to him.
This was a 14 second interaction and that was it.
As an entertainer in downtown Nashville, I get being overwhelmed by crowds and people
coming up to you all the time.
But you still came up to him.
I get to unplug and go home and I feel for Theo where he probably can't get away from
that a lot more easily than I can. And post-surgery I was one week back from
recovery this could have ended my career but luckily there was no damage to my
vocal cords on my neck. Dammit. That annoys me. The celebrities that you see on camera can be
completely different people. He's annoying, he fucking annoys me.
This guy annoys the shit out of me.
Fuck off.
So by the way.
First of all, didn't choke you.
He pushed you away.
And it could have been a lot worse.
And no, it wasn't gonna damage your dumb vocal cords.
Your stupid back.
He's annoying.
This guy is annoying.
By the way, the way he plays the guitar.
He's not a bad guy.
My take on it, not a bad guy.
Misunderstanding.
Phil probably thought he was being weird. And he's generally a little annoying. But who, not a bad guy, misunderstanding. Theo probably thought he was being weird
and he's generally a little annoying.
But who, yeah, that guy sucks.
But also, who knows what the fans before him did.
This guy's come with balloons, they're in Theo's face.
He's like, back up, dude.
And he goes, what?
Clearly, Theo's not in the mood.
Just back, especially you've been in entertainment,
you should read the room and know what the fuck's going on.
He doesn't want to be bothered. On the other side that feel he's he's at such a high level now of fame
You can't be hanging out in bars, dude
Nothing good is gonna come from it and feels you know sober trying to stay sober
I mean people are pretty cool don't want to be in bars, dude
Yeah, no, you don't want to be they're not cool. You don't want to be in bars cuz that guy probably thought he was being cool
Yeah, feels they're probably meeting people your friends or whatever. You don't want to be embarrassed because that guy probably thought he was being cool. Theo's there probably meeting people,
friends or whatever.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
And that's why Rogan has to have security.
I have.
Is that a point?
Theo's at a point, he's not far from Rogan.
He needs security.
If you're going to go out,
or at least you need your boys.
Right.
I'm nowhere near as famous.
I would never go to a bar by myself.
And people do get in your face.
People will, when they're drunk.
And they're not being rude.
They're not assholes.
But when they're drunk, they get real familiar
and touchy and grouchy.
Yeah.
Yes.
And they're not, especially if they're drunk
and they're happy to see you,
they're not concerned with what you have going on.
They just want to get their thing out, which is okay.
They want their thing.
And for Theo, he's like, what the fuck, dude?
Theo's such a good dude. Like that's,
you know, it's been over it. I don't know what happened to Theo prior to that, whatever
the interaction was with the fans before that. But, you know, just been in a mood or whatever,
but just fucking had it. I don't mind that that guy, he definitely didn't choke him.
And that guy was fine. That guy didn't understand something.
It was a misunderstanding, but to make the video like that,
hey dude, can you just stop?
Like you're annoying me.
He's gonna see what Theo's fan base is like.
That Rat King fan base is gonna fucking light you up.
Your net show might wanna lay low.
He's a little annoying.
He's just a tad.
Yeah, an adult man turning his back to you is obvious decided to leave him alone no matter what you said or didn't say
Still with the on the majority of people and be with you. Do you want to compliment? You're so embarrassing cloud chasing?
I'll pay your bills for you. That's what you want
Keep grinding super star you finally went viral. Yeah, you just don't need this dude.
He should have made a video.
His video should have been like, yeah, I fucked up.
I should have known.
For those back in Theovon, performers in Nashville deal with a rowdy, unfiltered crowds every
single day.
We get grabbed, no you don't.
Drinks thrown at us, because your music sucks.
All without the luxury of paid production like Theo can afford.
Hey, J Greg, or G-E Greg, not as not in the area code of Theo von.
You don't deal with, he deals with it all day every day.
Nonstop.
Hang out with him, hang out with Joe Rogan, see what happens.
But also Theo has a unique look where he's not hiding from anybody.
The minute Theo goes to fucking Target, they're like, holy shit, that's Theo von.
Even when he wasn't this famous, he sticks out like a sore thumb.
Me and Theo would go to lunch, everyone was like, holy fuck, that's Theo Vaughn.
I can kind of blend in, I look like a ton of people, they might just think I'm a giant Mexican.
Theo can't.
He's a fucking mullet for God's sakes.
Theo would be fine.
Also, you know, also pop my balloons.
Like, hey, get away from me.
Hey, nerd. Yeah, this guy sucks. I'm not trying to be mean to this that. Get, hey, get away from me. Hey, here's, hey, nerd.
Yeah, this guy sucks.
I'm not trying to be mean to this kid.
Nah, I am.
Nah, fuck this guy.
You want to make a video with Clown on Thiel?
Dude, here's the thing.
You, if you're over the age of nine
and you have balloons on your birthday,
you're a fucking tool.
There's that.
He's probably a very nice guy.
He's just a little needy for attention.
And you're, this was.
Also how'd you think it was going to go?
I'm going to give a fuck who you asked.
Can you pop balloons with me?
What?
Yeah.
But.
That's the same thing as you want to play catch.
I'm 40.
Yeah.
What?
I'm 40, sir.
And that was.
Oh, excuse me, sir.
What time is it? Are there young kids around? Do I want to pop balloons?
I got your fucking mind something else that had nothing to do with meeting Theo what that was about was him trying to get more
Followers and post a video
I get that you and he still got it. I got the wrong way. He still got it making a stupid video
Yes, and I thank God it didn't affect my back surgery.
Shut the fuck up.
What's your back sore from?
What's your back sore from?
Getting fucked, bud?
What the fuck is your back sore from?
What's it sore from?
No, I would say this.
Now, just take it easy.
I would say overall, that was all the whole interaction.
You want your attention, you got it.
The whole interaction was self-serving. It was all self-serving. You weren't there, you got it. The whole interaction was self-serving.
It was all self-serving.
You weren't there, you were just there to kind of try to, you know, up your profile.
It's fine.
Little clumsy.
It's fine.
Change everything by your face.
You're annoying.
Get the fuck out of here.
He's probably a sweet kid.
Honestly, imagine me, right?
You guys don't know me.
Walking into a bar with balloons.
You guys don't know me.
And I walked up to either of you guys saying like,
can you pop these balloons with me for my birthday?
Would you be like, what the?
I would do it.
Me and Brian, the difference is me and Brian would do it.
I would be like, I'd go, really?
Yeah, I'll pop your balloons.
And I'd go like this.
I'd go, is that what you wanna do?
No.
And then I'd go, hey.
It would freak me out if you guys did that to me.
Yeah, well I'm gonna.
I also wouldn't be in a bar though. That's the thing with field bud
He knows this I've told him this he can't be hanging out in those areas. Yeah, you wouldn't you just there's nothing
There's nothing good gonna come from it
Yeah, but he but also you know feels alone well
He's a one-man army too, so he doesn't have boys around the fan that got choked out by Theo of on You're so annoying. It's a nice annoying cock
Out you think that's a choke god. He's annoying pride dries up
But also if you came to me a hundred percent, but I'm in a pride fucks face to face
But also if you're around me if I'm going out my brothers with me, good luck. Good luck getting through the pit bull
Oh, yeah, he's not gonna let you get to me.
No, get fucking luck.
But I would never go out by myself and I can fight.
Theo can't.
Yeah.
But I'm not gonna, I wouldn't, even me,
I wouldn't go to a bar by myself.
I don't wanna deal with those problems.
Jay has such a sweet face too, but he would kill someone.
He'd kill someone.
Not behind his face.
What else you got?
That's it.
That's a lot more. Well, that was fun kids, I'm getting on a plane. Yeah. Go back to Texas.
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