The Fighter & The Kid - Why Pauly Shore Took A Break From Hollywood | TFATK Ep. 870

Episode Date: February 16, 2023

Pauly Shore joins the show and discusses his love for Vietnam and Asian culture, his early blockbuster fame and taking a break from Hollywood, dating a famous adult star, long lasting friendships with Brendan Frasier and Nicolas Cage, life advice and much more! The Black Tux - https://theblacktux.com/FIGHTER with prom code FIGHTER Onnit - https://onnit.com/fatk

Yes we did, cause we back at it again It's the fighter in the kid It's the fighter in the kid It's the fighter in the kid It's the fighter in the kid It's the fighter in the kid This is really the fighter in the kid Come on baby

My brother, Paulie Shore, who I've known for 27 I think almost 28 years Do I look chubby in this shirt or are we good? No, that shirt, first of all, I appreciate you You buttoned it all the way up Cholo style. Yeah. And then, but you're respectable. You were like, I have to change my shirt.

Well, yeah, because I came in, I came in, I came in, I came in, rolled in with the T-shirt, but this is a big podcast. I had the, you know what I mean? Although both the T-shirt and that looks like you might have gotten them in a thrift store. That's fair.

Because it's dull colors. I'll just say yes. Dude, for the first time, I remember Patty Jenkins, who's... Well, let's first of all, we wanna put a shout out to Brendan, who can't be here. Oh, Brendan can't be here. Brendan had an emergency, but everything's okay. Emergency was that Paulie Shore was on the podcast.

That's right. And I can't be seen with that fucking guy. I got a text that said, it said, tell him, tell Paul, I love the fuck out of him. So that was good. He felt really bad because he's, yeah. He's fine. But everything happens for a what?

For a reason, dude. For no for a reason, dude. Everything has for a reason, to gin, keep it down. We're all gonna get some thaw. I just got back from Vietnam. So I've seen people like you recently. I'm afraid.

He's brilliant. I understand, but it's all part of the East Asia. So it's all part of that same like Pat Tine noodle expression. I don't know if that's true. He doesn't eat patine noodle, dude. We could order some Uber eats and he can fucking eat that shit right now with some fucking Fah and some goddamn tofu. No, it's not.

No, it's not. It does. You're being super provincial and racist. That's good. I'm racist guy. What do you want from me? Well, you grew up in Ella. Yeah, I grew up around a cesspool of fucking just filth.

You grew up. So I grew up for some of us three years ago. You grew up at the comedy store. Yeah, so it's like, you know, Paulie sure was your, I mean, uh, Mitzi i was three years ago at the comedy story yeah so it's like you know polyshore was your i mean uh... mitzich was your mom she changed comedy in some ways she did and the funniest thing i ever saw it was a lesson for me in comedy and patty jenkins the great director one of the bob dillard for a second to it yeah she goes she goes do you see what he did and poly got up on mad tv

and told did a monologue that was true and Tragedy and the funniest monologue we probably ever had on mad TV Because he talked about how you and your brother got in a fight with the guy that was dating your mom Yeah, I guess and he goes he opens the monologue like this. He goes. This is on national TV Paulie goes I'm Paulie sure loser man you and and patty I remember she goes brine do you see how he stalled the truth it was tragedy but made it hilarious that's why he's so

good and I learned a huge lesson in comedy from you oh well I'm serious yeah I never forgot it well so I don't know, man, you've always been an original stamp and now we're both old guys. Yeah. That's, I've been in very- I'm fine, just turned 55, how are you? I'm 56. Okay, so we're the same.

Yeah. And I like that because there's something about, I love Brennan but he's too young for us. Oh, then we get to talk about- He doesn't get a fuzzy feeling when he sees me. No, I guess Brennan, but he's too young for us. Also, we get to talk about. He doesn't get a fuzzy feeling when he sees me. No, I guess. You get a fuzzy voice. And then his pubic hair starts to stand up

and recognition, oh, chin, chin, chin. No, that's more. Oh, God, you can't do that, dude. His name is Chin. I know, so. Don't say it three times though, like that's, because that would be 1950s racist. So, Chin, do you ever go to the Korean spa?

You know what's funny? Like all my friends go, not all my friends go. And you don't go. A few of my friends go, but I've never been. And they always like get lost. And then I never go. And then I never go. And then I never go.

And then I never go. And then I never go. My friends are white and they go. Yeah, I haven't gone. No, I love to the Korean, so I go all the time. Bobby Lee, Bobby Lee, spot. We spot it. No, it's a spot that no one really knows

It's actually a spot that's like kind of an assess pool part of Koreatown And there's actually like hooker karaoke like in a like a back so you know about that karaoke. Yeah How crazy is that? karaoke dude There's the Korean spa and then like you walk in and like all set in these 11s, bro They're like leaving in this one room like holy fucking. I and there's a security guy there I'm like what's that he goes. Oh, that's karaoke. I'm like yeah, right But I guess they do karaoke and then they do other things. So you're singing while you're fucking I don't know what they do

But it's just a little obviously you're told me there were 11s now I'm intrigued but I don't go in it. Yeah, you know I thought I'm leaving. Yeah, I just see I'm walking on and out. Yeah, yeah But were you tempted? No, I did that in Vietnam. You did of course Do you have a lady right now you stayed single forever? Yeah, I'm still single no kids no kids. Oh, did you ever want kids? No kids. No kids. What did you ever want kids? I do want a kid because I feel like I can love a lot. Like I have a dog.

You know what I mean? So that's kind of like an kid appetizer. Yes. You know what I mean? That's it's your starter kid. Starter kid. So I have that, but then I fucking see these horrible, horrific stories about kids that become, you know, I have a joke on my

act where I say, I say, I want to have a kid, but I'm too, I'm too young to have a kid. Or no, I say I'm too young to have a kid. And then that gets a laugh, right? Because I'm obviously old. And then I say, I want to have a kid at 70, because 70 is the perfect age, because if you have a kid at 70, then like you can enjoy the kid and their beautiful twos, threes, four, five, and then they turn a teen and they fucking hate you and they're vaping.

You die. You die. And they're vaping. You know what I mean? And they fucking want to kill you. And you're like, sorry I'm on hospice, bro. Good luck in this life. I don't want to be friends with my kid at 40 anyways.

He wants to go to lunch with the kid who's 40. That's like I'd rather go to lunch with the kid who's 40. That's like I rather go to lunch with you. That's so fun. But think about it. From one to like 18, they're cool. And then after that, they become maybe 13. There you go. My daughter's 14.

Oh wow. Could not care. Does not care about me. Like literally, I go to see her. I don't see her for like four days. She's too busy for me. And then I start to freak out if I don't see her for like four days. She's too busy for me. And then I start to freak out if I don't see my kids, right? So I go, I don't live, they live with their mom.

So I go, but I see them pretty much every day when I'm in town. I get along great with their mom, so it's all good. So I go, I see them and I'm like, and I see my daughter and she's like, hey, Dad, and then she's just on her phone. And I'm like, hey, and then I go like this, I go, teenage on your phone, how about a little something for her for Dad? I'm like, hey, and then I go like this, I go, teenager on your phone,

how about a little something for her for dad? Like, hi, hi, and she'll, that's, she'll go, really? Seriously, I'm a teenager, be more obvious. Yeah, I'm a teenager. And she's already annoyed at me, and she goes back to her phone, and that's it. So I assume being a teenager is the bump in the road of the person's life, because whenever someone becomes a teenager, that's when there's that bump in the road of the person's life. Because whenever someone becomes a teenager,

that's when there's that bump in the road. But then after they're 23, 24, 24, so that's 8, 29, then they kind of probably will come back around. Well, I have a theory. You think she'll be coming back around like normal? I do. She's really intelligent.

I have a theory on it. I think when you're 14, there are physiological things that are going on and you start feeling so deeply, you can't even handle it. You remember that? You remember how deeply you felt from the age of, really from me from the age of 14 to fucking 40, but really from the age of 14 to, I don't know, 20 was overwhelming. First of all, in its confusion, in terror, in harmonely,

it's just like, and then you're angry at the world and you don't know where to place your anger. That wasn't my upbringing, but that was everyone else's upbringing. You got the famous really good. But I would have had no parental supervision. You didn't. You didn't. No, you didn't. I never got a welfare. Tell us about that, because it's so fascinating.

For you guys that don't know, Paulie's mom, Mitzi Shor essentially created what is now known as the the world famous comedy store and discovered everybody you can imagine. You know, Jim Carrey, I mean everybody, the list is so nuts. And Paulie grew up around the most famous comics of all time. You know, Sam Kennisson, all those guys, and his mom was the apex. She was the facilitator, she was the owner, she was the one who chose who got up on the comedy store and who didn't.

I remember being passed by Mitzi in 2006. It was, it's a several moments, one of the biggest moments in my comedy life, and it is an everybody's comedy. It's interesting because, you know, obviously we're all very close with Joe Rogan and everyone has that same kind of feeling and including Rogan.

Yeah, including, yeah, him and all you guys and you know, and Coco Diaz and Ari and all you guys and yeah, no. I'm still very traumatized with my mom's passing. It's very hard for me to talk about. It's hard for me to be at the store. It's the whole thing is, even that was one of the reasons

when I moved to Las Vegas. Because it's very emotional for me there. Because still, when I walk in there, I feel like I'm walking into my mom. You know, because everything there is her. Her spirit. So it's like, but she created it. So where she put the in there, I feel like I'm walking into my mom. Because everything there is her. Her spirit's there. But she created it. So where she put the picture there,

she put the curtains, the whole thing. Never thought of that, boy. Yeah, so when I'm there, it's kind of like, it's not just, I'm a comic. I'm going on stage at the comedy store. It's not like that. It's very, yeah, it's an emotional. And then when my dad died my sister died I didn't know

sister yeah sandy died yeah she died she died about three years ago she died the same year my dad died she was 65 sandy was amazing fuck yeah and you dad you were close to your dad very close to my dad very close to my dad but yet your parents my dad. But yet your parents, there's a story about her. Well, my parents divorced when I was three, and then my mom, she ran the store, and my dad was off doing his stand-up, but he was still a great father. I'm sure.

And you know he opened for Elvis, right? Yes, I read that, but I know that until very, very, very. If you look at the Elvis movie, that's out now, you see the billboard Elvis in Sammy Shore. So yeah, my dad was the triple, triple OG. I mean, triple, triple OG. Yeah, like he started the whole thing. Look at him.

Yeah. So you grew up with a father who was a standup comic. And your mom, there's a legend that you would be crying in the crib and your mom would be like, let him cry. He'll learn how to, how to bomb until people in the lifetime. She said she programmed me to be a comedian. It's on my album. Wow.

Yeah, my mom was, you know, and she was a good mom despite the fact that she wasn't there. She was there. She wasn't there, what do you mean? She was at the comedy store. She was physically at the comedy store doing the lineup and running the club, which was her real passion. But she also gave me to comedians. You know, Jack Perdue was a big babysitter.

Mike Binder was a big babysitter. Argus Hamilton was a big babysitter. Really? Yeah. And these guys all took care of me. Like, for instance, like Little League. Like my mom never went to one of my Little League games, but the comedians took me to my Little League games.

So then I would play Little League, and I'd look over, and there'd be like, all the comedians on the side. It's like a gangster. It's like good fellows, only comedy. Yeah, representing my mother, and on the other side would be my father, and he'd be there.

And since my dad was a comic, he'd always fuck around. So he'd wear, and I'm not kidding. He would fucking wear his speedos and he had a hair piece that was all fucked up and then he put Band-A-Sale oil all over his body and he'd yell at me like a gay man and he'd be like, hit the ball, you little fucking shit hit it.

And he had his hair piece in the comics so I'll try to fuck the Beverly Hills housewives and he got Bob Dylan sitting there too Yeah, cuz Bob Dylan's kid was on my team That's why I wear these glasses. I wear these glasses. Wait wait so so what's his name? Sam no Sam Dylan. Oh my god. So there's Jesse Dylan. There's Jacob Dylan. There's Sam Dylan Sam Dylan with the one who nobody knows correct So he played right field on my on my team and

Oh my god, dude. Yeah, that's him. Oh, I don't know Sam Dylan Somewhere around there. Wow Wow, so Bob Dylan Bob Dylan could be Bob Dylan would be sitting there and you be playing Yeah, is there even any photos of Sam Dylan on the internet probably not yeah, it's crazy Is there even any photos of Sam Dylan on the internet? Probably not. Yeah, it's crazy. Did you type in Sam Dylan? I did. Sam Dylan Bob Dylan. The son of Bob, yeah, I don't know.

Wow. He's like the, yeah, there he is in that shot with him. Is it here, possibly? No, it's to the right, hard right up there. Yeah, there you go. So he's one of those kids. Do you have one of those kids? Dude, so you'd be your dad was a big boy.

But I went to, but I went to Beverly Hills High School in the 80s. Yeah. So it was fucking like, I mean, where did you grow up? I grew up all over the world, but I was. But we're in the 80s, where were you? In the 80s, I was in, I was in the,

that Brandon's not here. I know. He would fuck up this whole after start. He'd be like, hey, like what about the Puss? You know what I mean? We're looking at my ear bro, check out my ear dude. We got an apartment in Vegas. That's a great British shopping person nation.

That's spot on. Yeah, good voice. No, he's cool. He's actually very funny. Brandon, I know, but forget the fact that you love him. Like I'm a comic and I like to see people that are funny. And I was in Vegas and he came to do a show at the Wiseguys.

And I'd seen him at the store here and there, but I saw him do a fucking headliner set and he killed. And I was really happy for him. Well, we just did Joe Rogan, we did his Joe's podcast, Fight Companion. And like I was talking Joe, Brennan was so fucking funny on that. He was so funny.

And Joe was like, we gotta start doing that more because he is, he's fucking, when he's on that dude, it's hilarious. Because it's, you know, everyone that starts doing stand up late, get shit from guys like us. You know what I mean? And like, oh, you know, like, Dean Del Rey is a great example. You know, when Dean decided to start doing stand up,

I'm like, fuck this guy. You know what I mean? He's fucking 40 something else and he's doing standup, I'm like, fuck this guy. Right. You know what I mean? He's fucking 40 something else and he's doing standup. Yeah. And then it's a hostile world. Yeah. And I'm like, Oh, now you want to just stand up.

Right. And then I'm like, Okay, okay. And then he got really good in these fucking hilarious. Same with Brendan. Yeah. You know, so it can be done. Kirk Fox is the same thing. Yeah.

Hunter. You know, Kirk Fox is a guy that started way lay. He was writing, right? He acting a lot. Kirk acted a lot. How long is tennis player, too? Yeah. Wait, you were touching on something before we got into this,

where you said I'm playing. I was touching on Brandon's crusty here. No, but before that, before that you said, chin, chin, chin, I like it. He did. Like, oh in the 80s. Yeah. So I went to high school.

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There it is. 10% off. So enjoy on it.com slash FATK gets them. It was it would you go to high school with well David swimmer was there. Yep. So did you know CC her which no okay She was my she was my girlfriend in college, but anyway. No I don't know was you know Lenny Kravitz was there, but he was older Angelina Jolie was there But she was younger Nicholas Cage was there. He was a little bit older

So it was that kind of you know, but mostly was David Schwimmer when I was there. Yeah, you know, he was there But it was just like Beverly Hills High was like a Molly Ringwell movie. Yes, you know, I mean it was just like Joy there's nothing but joy and fun and high fives. Were you popular? I was all right, you know But you just had a blast. Yeah, I was all right. I did a lot of different things I had a lot of a lot of crazy shit happen. I have a friend of mine named Doug White We used to go to this club called the Odyssey, which was a very famous kind of teen club back in the 80s It was all the kids from Pally went there, Santa Monica City College, Manhattan Beach,

like all the cool kids, Beverly. They all went to the Odyssey. Yeah, they went to the Odyssey, it was an underage club. And my friend Doug White, who was my best friend, he came from the bad part of Beverly Hills, the Horace Man part there. Because there's four different junior highs in Beverly Hills, just Horace Man, there. Because there's four different junior highs in Beverly Hills, there's Horace Man,

Beverly Vista, Hawthorne, Elro Dail. And so Elro Dail and Hawthorne were like the upper echelon. Beverly Vista and Horace Man were like lower tracks. So he went there and I took him in, me and my mom took him in. His life was fucked up because his family was fucked up. My mom always took people in. So he took him, took him in. My mom loved misfits.

Yeah, my mom, my mom. Straight dogs. My mom took a man and he was 14 years old. He'd sleep over and bubble, bubble. Long story short, we used to go to this club and the owner of the club was named LB, Lauren Spenderman, which stood for little boys. So basically, this guy used to run Coke

and Doug started working from on a scooter, delivering Coke to all these different people. and which stood for little boys. So basically this guy used to run Coke and Doug started working from on a scooter, delivering Coke to all these different people. And then LB molested Doug White, my best friend, and then Doug White killed and shot LB and shot him in the head. Whoa! Yeah.

Whoa! And he went to prison for that, for the 14th. How old was LB? He was 14. Oh, LB was in his 40s. No, I'm saying, and you're looking on the internet You were looking was 14 years old. Yeah, and and LB scumbag Yeah, he's and then your boy got a gun shot him in the head. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to break down the

The drawing out story on what happened But still that's a bad ass little kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's been out He's doing great. He's one of my close friends Yeah, and he's been out. He's doing great. He's one of my close friends. He's still, he's out. Yeah, he went away. Yeah, for seven years. What are the names again?

LBN. Doug White. Doug White. It was my homie. Wow. And then LB was Lawrence Benjamin, who owned the Odyssey. And what's he doing now?

He came out after seven years and he rebuilt his life. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's impressive, dude. Maybe it's not even on the internet. I don't even know. Can we just shut him a little bit? No.

All right, well now it'll be. Okay. Yeah. Well, my point is you're asking me about what Beverly was like. There was some heavy shit and there's also some awesome shit. Fuck, my prom was amazing. Every year I was a different thing. One year I'm a surfer, next year I'm a mod,

next year I'm a break dancer, a comic. You know, I was doing like, I would get into different things and I was very into, I mean, it's all my one-man show. So I have a one-man show that I've been running for a bit. It's called Stick With The Dancing. I've done it at the store, I've done it all over, and it's stories of my childhood. And it's basically all the stuff you're asking me now. A lot of it's in that.

Well, as somebody who grew up with comedy royalty and made his own stamp in the comedy world and continues to, do you like the state of comedy now? What do you think? Remember, because back in the day in the 80 of comedy now? What do you think? Because back in the day in the 80s, I was thinking as you're talking, you could get away with so much. And maybe that's just nostalgia. But do you think that things are different?

Do you think they're better now? What do you think? You know, the world has shifted and we all have to be sensitive to the shift. And we have to, I think for me, I just have to kind of talk about myself. I like to go to the edge, I just don't go over the edge. And I've always been that comic. I've always been the guy that fucks, for instance, when I did a movie called Adopted, where

I go to Africa to adopt a black baby. Like I really went over there and I really did this whole thing, but I went to the edge, but it's kind of racist. The movie's a little bit harsh, but it's not over, over. So it's like right to the, so that's my style, whether there's the shift in the world or not, but yeah, you have to be, you know, unfortunately, more sensitive, because everyone's got a phone

and everyone can fuck with people. And that's what I liked about Vietnam, you know, unfortunately more sensitive because everyone's got a phone and everyone can fuck with people. And that's what I liked about Vietnam, you know, when I was just there a couple weeks ago, I was there. I felt like I can do and say anything. Why'd you go there? It's my birthday. Really? Yeah.

And I just think it was really, it was cool, you know, you know, it was just again, you know, I don't want to say I'm famous, but people know me whenever I walk in a restaurant, wherever I walk around, people like there's Bolly Shore. So when... Even if it's not. No, not there. That's what I was saying. Oh, right. That's what I was saying.

It was, that was the number one thing that I really enjoyed, was just to be able to walk in a place and not have one so weasel or not that I don't... That's kind of exhausting because it's that alpha-nacost in the height of his fame when we're doing hangover too. Oh my God. He would walk around Thailand and he would just walk. And I was like, what are you doing? He goes, well, I can walk around 14 year old boys aren't chasing me down the street. Right. And it was such a relief. It was kind of like this respite where he could just kind of go

somewhere and just be anonymous. Yeah. So, so I enjoyed that part part of it and then I'm obsessed with Asians And I've always been obsessed because of my mom Yeah, because my mom always had Asians working at the comedy store and the bar Actually, no, just I like them. No, it's not a sex thing. I just I just like Asians. I think they're awesome. Yeah, so You know general. Yeah, in general. Yeah, I get excited. Yeah, and I see that. So I said, Jin-Jin, I'm like, Oh, that's my friend. Yeah, but he's gone Jin. Oh, you can't say it twice.

Well, I feel like Jin-Jin is super, is a little bit biased. Probably he always says that Jin-Jin. Yeah, but Bobby Lee's Korean. I know, but still. Bobby's allowed to. No, I'm kidding. But you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So I was raised at the comedy star around Asians, all the bar managers, all their, my guardians, my guardians were Asians Yeah, they were but this is way before you. Yeah, this is one of this little but I'm still yeah, and even in the 2000s a lot of guys me on the bar were Asian There was the people that ran the comedy store when we were kids and the in the 70s a Sunni and Ted So so Ted was the bar manager at the comedy store in SUNY

was married to Ted and they lived at my mom's house. So SUNY would make me like hot pepper beef and tupperware and a walk and all that shit in her room. She had a little bunsen burner in her room. So I'd go in there and get sticky rice and we'd just sit around and she'd make me, she'd make me, you know, my lunch for school. So I'd go in there and get sticky rice and we'd just sit around and she'd make me, she'd make me, you know, my lunch for school, so I'd go to school with hot pepper beef and tupperware. You know what I mean? It was fucking awesome and bows and shit. You know what I mean?

Please stop dropping shit when I do my fuck off. Hey, what the fuck? It's my bad. But then you got, how old were you when you got famous? Probably in 2021. God, that's so young. Yeah, yeah. And what a time to be famous.

I remember when you were dating Savannah. Yeah. And she was like for us, like she was the hottest porn star of all time. I think she killed herself in four years. Yeah, yeah. Um, but you just, you ran it hard in every, every 20 year old wanted to live your life.

Like you were always with the hottest girls on the planet. Mm-hmm. It's also a different picture. Yeah, that's that's her. Yeah, she was something else. Yeah, she was, my mom loved her. Yeah, I go, mom, she does porn. She sucks dick for a living. I know she's great. Fantastic. She should be a comedian. I was when porn was still so subversive, but there were superstars like her, you know? Yeah, no, she was, you know, I took care of her,

you know, I really took care of her. How long did you guys date? I don't know for a couple of years, two, three years, but when she killed herself, we weren't dating, we had broken up at least a year prior. What happened to you now? Yeah, of course, she was just, you know, she was doing a lot of drugs.

Her looks were fading, she was sick of being Savannah. She wanted to be Shannon. And she had a stalker after her. She owed the IRS like lots of money. And you know, her whole world was coming. And you know, it's really sad about the whole thing. She was fucking 23, bro. 23 when she killed her first.

Do you believe how young that is? Kenneth and died at 38. That's so weird. I mean, dude, we're in our 50s, bro. I know. And it's fucking insane. Well, I always say if I die tomorrow, people go, there's a good run, 56, nobody mourns me, nobody. My kids, but everybody else is like, 58 fucking did it.

What do you want? You got lucky. And I would be, I think about that all the time. I feel like everything after this is gravy. I've experienced everything, I feel like everything after this is gravy. I've experienced everything. I've done everything. And if I go, I just worry about my kids and their mothers.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're right. I mean, I have a thing where I said, if you make it to 80, you've won. 101 after 80. And you start to you start to You know feel that more when you're in your 50s. You kind of feel like you know I think our biggest currency is time. Yeah, you know, they mean our biggest currency is time You know, I was driving over here from West Hollywood. That's a far drive

You know, I mean, that's an hour. Yeah, you know, I mean, but I said I love you You know, they mean I've always loved you. Thank you You know, I mean I've always loved you and I. You know what I mean, I've always loved you. You know what I mean? I've always loved you and I've always thought you're a great comic and fucking funny and awesome. I'm like, that's my boy Brian. Thank you. You know what I mean?

So I'm, he's a lot to me. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm coming out for him and because you know, we don't see each other. Ever, I know. You know, none of us do. Everyone's in our own, own world now and everyone's kind of like in our own world. But again, it's funny because you have these people

that in your life, I've known you a long time but I wouldn't see you a lot of hangout but I got such a warm fuzzy feeling when I saw you. I was like, yeah. I was like, there's my boy. You know, there's something about that time that you spend with people for a long time. But you're also very funny.

Thank you. You know what I mean? You're very funny and you're a very good guy and I've always enjoyed your stuff and I've always like, you're a wacko like me. You know what I mean? And I'm happy for you so much. Well, I just want, I don't want any regrets when I die

and I don't want any unfinished business. And I don't want to think that I did anything that I couldn't live down. You have, the other thing you have when you're older is not just time but truth. You better live your life as truthful as you possibly can because you will not get away with anything other than that. You just won't, man.

So sometimes I like to do the things that, like I kind of go, what am I actually supposed to do? You know what I do sometimes I go, I woke up with anxiety the other day. It's just like, in the middle of the night, I worry about stupid shit. I do too. Right?

We all do too. And then I looked up and I was like, I am, I'm not gonna be anxious. The guy in the movie that I admire, he just decides he's not, that life's a fucking war or maybe a battle or there are challenges and I'll meet him halfway every time. It's like my favorite saying is this a guy a really tough guy one time and he had to broke two black eyes

And he fought a guy named tiny who was a giant and giant guy giant huge Yeah tiny from the comedy no no no no this guy was the big black guy was a feared guy in West Virginia Like this giant redneck who was a lumberjack of all everybody my buddy thought him Okay, and and I said and the guyuna everybody, and my buddy fought him. And I said, and the guy said, yeah, and the guy just came right at Tony. And I said, what'd you do? And Tony looked up and he goes,

I'm at him halfway. And I was like, that's the coolest thing I've ever heard of my fucking life. I hope my life. When you see me in him halfway, what does that mean? In other words, you come at me full speed and you're 300 pounds, I'll meet you halfway. I'm gonna get out of my chair and I'm coming at you too.

Like that's a skin instead of being like, bro, what the fuck up? You just went, and came out of him. All my tombstone, may it say, he met him halfway. I don't know if that'll be the case, but I love talking macho with you, you're like this. Uh-huh, cool. Whatever. Well, you do that tight-quandos shit. You're like this. Uh-huh. Cool. Whatever. Well, you do that Taekwondo shit.

You do that way. Oh, that stuff. That's great. I was watching Joe a lot. I'm very proud of him. I'm very happy for him. I don't see him a lot. And I don't get to see him.

He's out there. And you know, he starts talking about anxiety. I think we all kind of experience it now more than When we were younger for some reason when we were younger we used to take naps You know what I mean and now like you had That's the other day. Yeah, and also you're just you're more in your body You're not feeling age. You're not dying one body part of this time either, you know But I just think it's the way of the world now. There's more shit.

There's, I mean, everyone's got these things and the news and everyone's just like, you know what I mean? And it's sensitive. It's more sensitive now than it was. You know, not everyone's trying to fuck everyone, you know, like it was back then. But when we were younger, you'd take naps and a little day, it'd be sunny out. You just like, and now you take a nap. You got to have the things shut.

You got a tired thing. You got you take a nap, you gotta have the things shut, you gotta tire thing, you gotta take a fucking ambience, you gotta like all this fucking stuff and if you hear a little thing, you're like, oh shut that thing there! You know what I mean? Like what the fuck happened to us? But what Joe was saying,

which I think is true, is a fitness, you know, working out, you're saying you do a lot of this stuff, it probably really helps with this. And that's why I go to the gym too all the time. It's not for this, it's for this. And I really like all that stuff he pushes on that because it's true, you know?

Because when you do what's hard, I find like when I do hard exercise and I'm consistent with it, I feel brave or I feel stronger. It's why I like fighting. Like it's why I would box or I, you know, do a little jiu-jitsu. I just, I just, it's not, it makes me feel, I don't know, it makes me feel like I'm contending with life in an honest and objective way. Like I want to do what's difficult and feel it. Sometimes I take a cold shower. Like today I just got in the water. I worked out super hard and then I got in the water and it with my wife

was like what are you doing? Because she can hear me breathing. It was so cold. But I like I like the pain sometimes. I'm like I'm gonna do this. I don't want to do it and I'm not gonna negotiate with myself. I don't know. I bring Santa got the great philosopher. He used to sleep on the ground like two days the week of the month. He'd sleep on the ground like two days of the week of the month. He'd sleep on the ground on the cold ground, nothing but water, bread, and a blanket over his body. It was uncomfortable.

Just to remind him that there's nothing to be afraid of, like no matter what they do to you, you're okay. I like that. I like conditioning myself for the inevitable. I thought Senaiko was a sleep medication, but, you know. That'd be a good name Crazy dude Can I put some Vaseline on his eyes?

Why because he's a boxer and I put him in a ring who him yeah, what? My fighter I'm a fighter in the kid I'm a fighter in the kid. I'm fucking around. You're speaking like a samurai, like a Japanese samurai. I'm not Korean, but you can't do so. That's how you do it. I'm definitely becoming more my father as I get older as far as my stick. Mike Binder opened for me recently,

I don't know, I was in a, I go, I feel like my father on stage now because it's good, your dad was awesome. Who are your favorite comics? Who are the ones that blew your mind? Who are the ones that you were most influenced by? Well, there was guys that no one's ever heard of, you know, like Lenny Schultz.

And do you know him? Yeah like Lenny Schultz. Do you know him? Yeah, Lenny Schultz. He was the best. Is that him or no? Lenny Schultz, he started at the store. Ironman, Lenny Schultz. Yep. Who else?

Red Fox. I love Red Fox. Red Fox. Amazing. I loved. Who is that Michael Keaton? Great people don't realize he was a fucking great comic. Oh my God. Was he at the comic store? No in the 70s. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, Michael Keaton.

I mean, he would read the bazooka Joe thing where he just he'd read the bazooka Joe comic and it would just go on and on. He was so good. He's great. So smart. Fuck I forgot to get stand up dude. So great. And then you know, you got guys like Dave Tyree. Remember Dave Tyree? Fuck dude. So funny dude. He was like Richard prior funny, but he never made it. Yeah. You know, um, a lot of guys. Yeah. Put Dave Tyree African American comedian There he is right. That's you. Oh, yeah, that's guy was fucking fun. Wow Dude, what happened they all these guys that so much coke dude?

That's the problem like all these stopper. Yeah, Dave Tyree was great. Oh, there's Paul Mooney Alan Stevens Alan Stevens very funny Alan Stevens. Alan Stevens was very funny Alan Stevens the only comic that I've ever seen like do a bumble-culk and then go right to sleep He'd be like he back And then you'll be like all right. I'm going to sleep. I'm like, okay. You know, it was really funny. Angel Salazar I was really oh yeah, he was really what a character was what was he was great. He's still alive. Angel yeah. What's he up to? He's just touring. I think he lives in Miami. But he's he was really funny. Yeah. Yeah. Remember check it out. Yes. But these are the guys that raised me dude. Damn. Do you stay in touch with them? Sometimes yeah. Wow. Angel sounds are

I am. Lois Brom field was fucking hilarious remember her no lowest Bromfield she's a lesbian comedian. She's my babysitter. She took care of me. She was very It's funny man. It's a real personality type. I think my son's gonna be a comic my son. Yeah, my son has all the All the liabilities required for a comic, like ADHD, sensitive, but funny as shit, aware of a surroundings, afraid of a surrounding. Well, it's definitely something you're born with. Like, I have two brothers that aren't comedians.

My sister was in a comedian. So, for me, I was like a kid when I was at the store. Just like this, they weren't like that. You know what I mean? So it is, it's a really interesting mix. It's also like a, it's a small fraternity of people that can actually make anybody laugh anywhere for an hour.

You know what I'm saying? Like it's, there are a lot of comics now do comedy, but they're, you got 10 minutes, like relax, you know? But like I'm talking about people Who have done this for so long and and stayed relevant that that's it? That's a small group of people. Yeah, you know It's a really small group and people weren't making money when you and I were coming up People didn't make the kind of money they do now because of social media, you know I don't know what it is. I think Netflix has a lot to in these podcasts

They think with Bert Kreischer and Tom Sager, I mean, I mean, just like fucking nuts, too. I mean, it's like, I mean, when we are growing up, you know, there's maybe three or four guys that sold out Madison Square Garden. Yeah, maybe. Now, there's like 30, you know what I mean? So, but also just like, you can just curate a following. It used used to me you would go into a town you'd have to rely on local media

Radio you didn't know who you had to do morning radio and you didn't know who it was It wasn't like fans. It was people who like comedy who decided to come in. I remember doing shows in say Houston, Texas and I would I would ask the owner or the agent would ask the owner where tickets. Like they're like, oh, every show's half sold out. It's like half, half, half. And then you go on the morning radio show, Steven's in Pruitt and fucking Houston. Yeah, yeah, no, that was in that. Oh, that was in Philly, wasn't it?

No, those are Philly guys. Those are big guys too. Yeah. The Steven's in Pruitt, if you, I don't know, they're Houston. Oh, that was Houston, okay. Houston, you know, and these guys that used to have the morning show. And you sell out. Because they had you, one thing, boom, and it was packed.

You do one radio, you knew, and the thing is, you knew you were gonna sell out if you did that morning radio, period. You weren't thinking like, oh, minus, sell it, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that oh minus salad that that that yes, you know now it doesn't exist anymore There's no radio anymore, right? Isn't it weird? I like it because I don't have to wake up early. Yeah fucking hate that shit That was the fucking worst especially jet lag could be like three o'clock your time Oh, yeah, no, it was the fucking worst, but you had to do it

And then you get dragged around they pick you up the owner or whatever and they pick you up in that fucking car It's always a shady car. Did you ever do Sanford and Son with Craig? Of course. Yeah, I mean, that's a whole other podcast. That's a whole other podcast. Yeah, these guys are fucking coke and fucking just, I mean, yeah, I mean, this was, this is where Eddie Griffin started. This was, you know, Kansas City back in the day.

And these guys would, you know, I mean, they ate brother, you know, and all that shit. Well, Kansas City was where one of the jazz hubs of the world, like, Jack Kansas City was where it's kind of like the gateway to the West. And so there was a, there was a huge underground music scene that was incredibly innovative in in Kansas City. So yeah, no, and they got good motherfucking ribs. Shit. That's good. I'm they got good motherfucking ribs, shit.

That's good, dude. I'm motherfucking barbecue motherfucking ribs. That's a good Korean accent, dude. No, that's the black thing. Oh, I don't know. I'm just saying it's black now. We're switching it up, motherfucking shit. That's good.

That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. I'm not gonna get fuck with black people. No, that's a 90s black guy. Okay, I'm a 90s comic. I know, I'm saying.

Do you follow any kind of diet? Do I what? Do you follow a diet? Like if I see it on the street, just follow it around. Yeah. Just follow it. Yeah.

No, I've always kind of taken care of myself with the food. You know, I don't, you know, I don't go crazy. I don't go crazy, you know. I mean, I saw you in Silver Lake, we were eating at the, I was at a... The Thai place, man. No, dude, the fucking place where it looks like you're an old New York city.

Oh, Stella, right. Cafe Stella, I love that place, bro. I haven't been there in so long. I know, how great was that? Oh God, man. Remember when I saw you there? One of my favorite restaurants, I always forget it, it's's literally like yeah, it's like a French bistro. Yeah, you feel like you are You're in the village or you're in Paris. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, I had a seven-year run in Silver Lake

Did you I lived there for seven years? It was fucking awesome It was awesome and then I moved to vape or no and then COVID hit and I I No COVID hit and I moved to vague, or no. And then COVID hit and I moved, no. COVID hit and I moved to Hawaii. So I lived in Maui for a while during COVID, which was fucking awesome. You have a place there? I don't.

No, I just stayed there. I got a condo and I stayed there on a golf course. That didn't do stand up, you just hung out. Yeah, it was COVID, everything was shut down. I was the only like, you know, person from the mainland there. Do you play golf? No, I don't why don't play golf Absolutely not But I was there during COVID and then when I was there

Then I saw LA was burning yeah for COVID and you know the riots and the whole thing It was fucking bad Yeah, and I'm like I'm not going back to LA. And I just, all my parents had died and all this shit. And I'm like, I go, I'm fucking exhausted. I go, I want to be around joy. So I said Vegas. So then I moved to Las Vegas about two and a half years ago and I live next door to Nicholas Gage.

Oh my God. So he's my neighbor. I'm the normal one in that fucking relationship. Yeah. You know what I mean? We go out and it's like, I'm like, you know, I'm like looking at him going, oh shit, like this guy's, you know what I mean?

Because he's wild. He lives in Vegas. Yeah, dude. What the fuck is he living in Vegas for? He's been there 20 years. What? Yeah, dude. Why, he wanted to get away?

He just likes Vegas. He likes the nostalgia. You know Vegas has got the nostalgia to not try and fucking stand in the living. Does he still like the under tapestry of Vegas? Yeah, he does. Yeah, he goes to those old school Vegas restaurants and you know, and we, you know what I mean?

Yeah, how old is Nick now? He's 59 I think. Yeah. I mean, I loved him in this last movie, unbearable weight of limitless talent or whatever it's called. He's so good in that. Yeah, he doesn't stop working.

Massive talent. Yeah, you know him well then, huh? We became close in the last year. He did go to Beverly, so there's that kind of, you know, Jim Carrey used to bring him around at the Communist Store a lot. Really? Yeah, because him and Jim were very, very close. So I'd met him throughout the years.

You stand touch with Carrie? Do you know Jim? Not really. Not real. I see him. He seems like he's unhappy. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm gonna be off Twitter and I'm not gonna do this. Yeah, okay Jim. You know what I mean? He seems like he's mad at the world in a way.

He seems like a great person. I know somebody who created his show, that last show he did called. Jim Kerr? Dying or whatever it was? I don't know. Oh, the one about the story, you mean? Yeah, what was this TV show he did?

Dying up here? Yeah, maybe it was Dying Up Here. I don't know what it was, but so, so, but the, he said, like the creator of the show knew him really well and he said, I said, what's he like? He goes, he's a great guy, he's a sweetheart. He's just, he's probably, he probably gets a little bit

more down than he should, you know. It's like, it's hard. We're all mental patients. Yes. You're a mental patient. Yes. I'm a mental patient. Yes.

Jim's a mental patient. We're all fucking mess. Yes. You know what I mean? And when he changed that. And when he changed that. No, we're on the outsider outsiders. You know what I mean?

And that's what makes us funny. Yeah. You know what I mean? And Jim is genius. Genius. I mean, fucking genius in so many levels. So, you know, he can? And Jim is genius genius. I mean fucking genius and so many levels So you know he can go through whatever he he can go through and I listen Maui We does that's where he lives and he gets the fuck at L.A. And he's just yeah, he's just said I'm moving back actually

I'm actually giving my 30-day notice today to my the owner of the house in Vegas. Why are you moving back? It's Vegas. I feel like I'm I feel like I'm secluded out there or isolated to the word from the entertainment business. Yeah. I'm in the entertainment business, so I need to be around people in the entertainment business. For instance, if I go to Starbucks in Vegas, no one around there is in the entertainment business.

If I go to Starbucks in West Hollywood, so I gotta be around that. Well, what do you want? And in that, no one around there is an entertainment business. If I go to Starbucks and West Hollywood, so I gotta be around that. Well, what do you want? And then that do you wanna do? Because I love the mentality of people in the entertainment business. You know, if I'm gonna do anything, I mean, just finding assistance, you know what I mean?

People, you gotta get people that are in the business. I don't know, I just, you know what I mean? I mean, you gotta get people that are in the business. I don't know. I just, you know, I- But do you wanna keep doing movies? Do you wanna start writing? What do you wanna do? You wanna keep doing stand-up? I mean, what are your goals?

Like, when you're 75, what conversation is this? I love acting. That's my biggest number one thing. You know, I love acting. It's like, for instance, Brendan Frazier, you know, who's a dear friend of mine from Encino Man and blah, blah, blah, blah. He's awesome. He's so talented. He's a sweetheart. He got another shot as an actor. I mean,

look what happened. So for me, when I sell out my shows on the road, I'm not selling out because of my podcast or my Netflix special or, you know, something I did on YouTube, I'm selling out because of all my films. That's why I sell out. You know, I have a great audience out there that loves, you know, 25 years later, loves all my movies.

Sure. And, you know, I've got them like this because my movies got them like that. Same thing with my MTV show. You know, when I was on MTV That's where America was introduced to me and and that's this thing here It's a my my shows At least this is my feeling. It's more of an experience rather than like oh that guy was funny You know, there's a connection like my autograph flying where I sit in the back

I always take pictures and always take um when I sit in the back, I always take pictures and I always take photos and all that pictures, photos, whatever, with all everyone. And the stuff they say to me makes me cry. Wow. Yeah, it makes me cry. You're a part of their history. Makes me cry, and that's why I keep going.

Yeah. You know, I connected this, so I miss acting. You are, you're a part of that. When you say you miss acting, what was the last big movie you did, and did you know it was your, like, because you had this precipitous rise, like all actors, and you're the most relevant guy, and then because of the way the business is. Stocks, when did that happen? When did that, when did it start?

Well, when did you, yeah, when did it start slowing down? Well, when I fired everyone on my team. You did? Yeah. Tell me my agent, my managers, all that stuff after I had my run, I was like, I needed a break. You know, I needed to be alone. It's so funny you stopping and did everybody's like,

see, everybody forgets about you in America. Yeah, no, I just, I needed a break, I needed to be alone, I needed to connect with people. I was so famous and I was so big that I lost the connection. So when I purpose, not purposely, but when I kind of put myself back out on the streets, that's when I think I became a better comic. You know when I was more connected? Because I wasn't on a pedestal like, oh, there's the guy from this movie, there's Mitzis Gain, there's the, how many movies did you do at the height of your? I did like, I think there

was like six or seven. Big movies. Yeah, but also I did guest house, which came out two years ago, which was a big hit for me for Lionsgate. Because that's the star. I'm the star of that. I played a guy in the guest house.

And that did well. Really well. That's awesome. Yeah, and this is, yeah, this is my movie. So everyone's in it, Eric Griffin's in it, Bobby Lee's in it. I love Eric and I love Bobby. Yeah, Bobby's punkies in it.

But this did really well for me. This was a rated R comedy and it's on Netflix right now. Wow. And it did huge for me. It was like one of the number one streaming movies like two years ago all over. And then I'm the voice of Pinocchio. You were? You just came out.

You were? Yeah. You're Pinocchio. You are? It just came out. You are? You're Pinocchio. I play Pinocchio, yeah. Bro, you're killing me. No, no, I've been doing a lot. That's amazing. Yeah, that's me.

I'm the voice of Pinocchio. Oh my God, dude. I didn't know that. I do a lot of voiceovers. There it is. Mostly for Lionsgate, yeah. Oh my God. But you know, I did-

I did a lot of voiceovers. Yeah, a lot, a lot. I've done a lot. There's a big trip. Give me the Pinocchio voice. Father, I came to be on my own. I had the whole world to see. I made him gay and it went crazy.

I made him gay. No, if you look at, if you type in, yeah, if you type in a Pinocchio polished sure viral video or Rolling Stone or whatever, you could see like Rolling Stone or something. But, but- Can we play this for now? We'll see.

Yeah, you can play it right there. See, yes, a vacation. Polystor talks, there you go. How Polystor accidentally became a Gen Z L G B-Q icon on TikTok. Oh my god. Is the one here? Yeah, that's it.

I saw it. When can I leave to be on my own? I've got the whole world to see. Oh my god. Yeah, I made him gay. I got the whole world to see. In the gay people went crazy. They're like, finally Pinocchio's gay

But the funny thing is is I didn't do it purposely. I didn't go. I'm gonna make Pinocchio gay, right? It was like yo, I'm it. This is how I see the character Which is kind of a kind of a naive kind of guy. Yes. Yes. There's a sing song to it. Yeah, but that's kind of what you've done It's like Christopher walking when he was younger, right, but you've seen you've done voiceovers, you know, beep, beep, beep, and you come in. Yeah. So I have, I don't want to say I'm good at it, but I know I got I've been doing it for so I was the voice of goof in the movie of the goofy movie. Goofy movie. I play it though. Yeah, I'm in all of those goofy movies. Yeah, trippy pizza yeah yeah leaning tower of cheese but that's a big how how do you care do well it's a big movie yeah yeah yeah

so also there's a big trip that just came out that's me right there oh my God yeah leaning tower of cheese I had no idea I did all these voiceovers. I don't do any voiceovers. Yeah, I love voiceovers. It's fun. I bang them out too. I wait and make money. I can bang them out. You know, like, because you, you know,

you dress in your pajamas and you just go and fuck a knock them out. Yeah. And you got a director there who's awesome and you got the editors awesome. And then you got the, you know, the thing up there and you got the voice. And I then you got the thing up there, and you got the voice, and it... I did cars, I think, and I did.

What's the other one I did about planes? But I might care about that. I was just doing this. I was making noises. Faaah! And I was like, Jesus. That's it. Maybe I'd be like, all right, go.

Try that again a little bit more like, a little bit more louder. Aaaaah! You know? But when you say, like, oh, you're doing this, you're, I had no idea, like, at the end of the day, our business is not about this, it's about doing. Yeah, it is.

You know what I mean? It's just about doing. And the only reason why we do this is because we love it. That's it. And if you can get paid and you can, you know, be, you know, do what Brendan's doing or all these guys where you get an opportunity, then that's even better than your stock goes up. But you know, the stuff that we're doing on YouTube, the stuff that we're doing on Instagram

and all that stuff, it's the same thing. It's just at a small level. At the end of the day, it's about doing. It's not like, oh, the crowd sold out, like who gives a fuck? You can go on the OR in front of 40 people about doing. I've always said that. I always said, I do this for free. At some of the best sets I've ever had,

most satisfying, we're in the OR of the comedy store. At 11, 30 at night with a bunch of conks in the back and 40 people, but you're trying stuff out. It works for the first time, whatever happens. And people put down, people put down this time that's tick tock time and the Instagram time and all that stuff like, and I get, excuse me, I get it,

but at the end of the day, it's give us a platform besides stand up to do it, it is that you want to do. Look at your podcast, you have a big podcast, you can have done this with Warner Brothers or... Never. Or I would have to give them all the money too. It was like, you're right, this is...

But you create this, like you created this, this is your show. And that's the positive part of what's going on now, because you get us old guys in there that are like, oh, it was so much better when you could just go on audition and I love that too. I hated it.

I loved it. For me, it was like, you know, it's true that if you got a TV show it meant you could buy a house if it went, but it was like, there were so, there were a lot of fewer outlets. Yeah, but that's what I liked, because more people would be focused on it. Let me tell you something, the thing that's fucked up, and then there's negative shit about it.

The big negative thing to me is that everyone is a star now. Everybody. Everyone, every single person has got their own fucking TV show. So the problem is when Leo comes on or Spielberg or Tom Hanks and this is their movie or their thing, people are like, okay, great. Anyways, oh my god, look at my likes.

Oh wait, look at this video. This cat fell out of a tree. Yeah, that's great Leo. Anyways, oh my god, let me put a filter on my thing. And that's the thing that's fucked up. I know, and then go to the movie theater. They can watch it on, you know, their big screen TV. And what happens is it's all atomized.

And the tension, your attention is atomized. Yeah. And I remember, I think we lose something as a society. When people, everybody would go see the reddors of the Lost Rock and we would all talk about it. We don't talk about it. And we don't go to the movie theaters. When it was the new Batman with Jack Nicholson,

he was playing the Joker. We all went. I was like, oh my God. And we just, everybody talked about that for a year. And when David Blaine would do a magic thing on ABC and he was levitating, all of us would talk about it It was it's it's focused. That's why it was better back then. Yeah That's why it was that there was an intimacy to that because we all spoke the same language and also there was

There's also the Hollywood dream that to me is vanished Yes, because the old Hollywood dream was come out to LA come to New York Work your way up, da da da da da, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You get, you know what I mean? And now it's like you can do it in Iowa, you can do it in France, you can do it. And it's just, there's no focus to see.

Too much white noise. But there's no focus attention, right? It's like, when they always talk about this with Europe, when Nietzsche said God is dead in Europe, it meant Europe was no longer a Christian nation. Nobody, there wasn't a focal point on what truth was. Truth was dissipated. There was science, there was all this stuff, and all of a sudden people just were finding

their own truths, and they found their own truths and communism, fascism, capitalism, capitalism, they're all different kinds of truths. And that creates disunity. It doesn't unify people and that comes with its own challenges like fucking civil war. Civil unrest, they've been talking about that now. Yeah, but civil unrest. Everybody's a privileged American, so let's all come to it. Except for Chen. Except for Chen. Just say his name once, otherwise it's what? Racist. Not. Not cool dude. That's great. That's great thing about being a comic.

You can fucking, you can get away with shit. Yeah, because he tell it's love. It's all love. Of course. Yeah. Not cool dude. Not cool dude. But let's talk about Joe. Yeah. Joe Rogan. Amazing. I know.

So happy for him. Well, you know, we had to talk, um, Yeah. Yesterday, and he was like, I love doing that fight companion because it's my old friends in the same room. And I moved to Austin. I don't get enough of that.

Yeah. You know, a lot of it is just, there's something about fame that's super isolating too. Like that kind of thing where you're, you get so famous that you have to kind of build a wall around yourself, because otherwise it's unmanageable. And so I think that part of him moving out there, there's a price for everything, you know?

And it's not the hangs at the store, it's not the hang, you know, that, but he's creating his own world in Austin. He's pretty powerful. I think what he's doing is beautiful, and I'm very proud of him, you know, just as one of his peers, from a distance. What he's doing, they're building the club, creating it

from what I understand, like my mom's, you know, which is a development of comics, and you got Adam out there and Curtis. Yeah. And, you know, again, you know, whether, you know, he's isolated, not isolated, just like you said, there's good and bad and everything we do, doesn't matter.

I mean, look at Chappelle, or the guy came on stage and hit him or tried to hit him. It's like, you know, but I'm happy for him and I'm happy he's doing so well. I talk about him on CNN and shit. It's like he fires back and CNN crumbles. But I talk about power. But I watched his last,

I watched his one hour recently. And shows? Yeah. I was in Salt Lake and he was like, I was up in Park City and he goes, I'm at Salt Lake playing for 14,000 people. You gotta come down and see this as like. And he's surrounded by 14,000 people.

Dude, I watched him, you don't get more famous. And so then what happens is you get wealthy and you can relax if you want. Nobody, he's still just as intense as he always has been. And his one hour was so inspiring because it was so good, so dangerous, so full of fucking irreverent material. And I was like, this motherfucker has not allowed the public embrace the wealth, all of it,

to influence his, to dull his instrument, even a fucking little bit. He's doing shit, that he's doing the stuff with the same kind of power he used. Remember when he killed the crew, back when he was younger, the comedy story just be like, giggle, giggle, giggle,

he'd come off, he'd sweat through two shirts, he's doing that shit again. And I'd just be like, how are you doing that when you're this high? How are you doing that on marijuana? It's like that guy who fucking does a line up blow and goes to sleep. Joking smoke, heavy weed, and be more intense.

So I don't know. Yeah, well, he's hit that nerve. Yeah. And he's in that space, and he's in that vein. It's the same guy that he is on the podcast, where he just kind of cuts through it. And it's the same thing with the standup. The eye saw him in him at the MGM,

to a show with Chappelle, and it was the same. I was so proud. I saw him in at the MGM to show a chappelle and it was the same. I was so proud of him. Like, give him a hug. I said, you know, my mom would be really proud of you. You really are a real comic now. Yeah. Because again, for a while, the, you know, fear factor thing and then the UFC thing and did it up.

But he's, he's fucking like a real comic. So again, I'm really happy for him. Well, comedy's always been his number one. Yeah, but comedy He had he always had great reverence for it. He still does he still gets nervous But he's gotten better. Yeah, he's gotten better. I know you know, that's what's amazing Yeah, a lot of people don't a lot of people coast and it's good to have friends that remind you of that like they're a friend You have to have friends that remind you where the bar is You know where it's like, you got a lot of work to do still.

Don't fucking relax. When I was 50, I did my special complicated apes. And it was like I drew a line through everything I'd come to LA to accomplish. Like I was like, okay, the TV show, all that stuff, you know. And I remember just, I had this, for about five minutes, I had this feeling of satisfaction. I was like, ah, you know, everything. And then I was like, well, I'm eating too much. I'm eating out too much. And I'm fucking looking for ways to get

into trouble. This is bad. There's no such thing as drawing all of my lines to all your goals. You got to, you got to just figure it out. You got to keep, stand up straight because it's always a challenge. You got to come up with new shit. Do you ever feel like you're repeating yourself? You mean old material? No, but like same theme. You're a fine, like you're on the same track and you try to get off it. Is that ever happen to you? Because that happened to me and then I had that kind of shaking. Sometimes, but you know, I'm always constantly writing. You know, always, every day, you know, I have a system that I write. And so I'm always trying to stay, you know, like now I have all this Vietnam material.

What's your system? How I do it, I have my phone and then I go, blah blah into it whatever the the ideas which is always in my mind and I send it to Fast lane on chinspace. Yeah Ginger and ginger and then I It goes voice text to my assistant and then he types it up and organizes it slug chunk slug chunk Which is the slug is the concept and the chunk is the joke and I just put it down there and then it's Michelangelo time. So then I put it up on the big screen like that. He types every one of my assistant types at least 90 words per minute.

Really fast. So then I just, I have him read it. The only way I can write is if I hear him read it because when he reads it, it tells me if it's funny or not. Because I can hear it. I can't write by myself. I hear it. And then I'm like, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes.

And I just keep Michael Angelowing the bit, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then I get it to a place. And then as an actor, I try to learn the bit. And then when I get on stage, it's 50% that and 50% improvise. You know what I mean? That's really cool. And you use it in collage, though. I love that because do you ever hear what he said,

if you read the agony in the exes, it's about his life. And when he looked at the piece of marble, before he carved the statue of David, he apparently legend says that he said to, I think Beatrice is girlfriend, he said, it's in there, it already exists. I just gotta get all the, I gotta get all the stuff out of the way. It's kind of a cool way to look at it.

It already exists, I've just gotta, I've gotta get all the stuff that doesn't belong around it right now, out of it. And it's a beautiful way of looking at, like the joke, the perfect joke's already there for you. It's in there, yeah. You gotta just, like that's a, I never, that's a really way of looking at, like the joke already, the perfect joke's already there for you. You got to just, like, that's a, I never, that's a really cool way to write. I've been doing it for years.

Wow. Everyone of my assistants has to type at least 90 words per minute. My assistants do you fucking have? A lot. Why for what? Because I don't like to hammer one person. Oh.

I like people to have their own lives. Oh wow. So everyone's part time. Oh wow. You know what I mean? But I weaned people in my system. And my system works. You know what I mean? My system works because I do everything. How do you find good assistance? I go online to there's different websites and I basically have them do a two minute video of why they should be my assistant and what their dreams are for themselves and also they do a screenshot of a typing test and it has to be at least 90 words per minute. So you

see the screenshot which is 90 words per minute and you see the video and you see their authenticity versus they're not authenticity and you see the video, and you see their authenticity versus their not authenticity, and you see if you wanna be with that person, because at the end of the day, I wanna help this person, and I wanna support this person, so they can go off and learn, and they can go off and do stuff, but I also wanna be able to be excited to be, I have an assistant right now who's working at my house,

who's banging out a whole bunch of shit, and his name's Adam, he's a really good guy, he's been with my house is banging out a whole bunch of shit. And his name's Adam. He's a really good guy. He's been with me about four or five months. And he's awesome. And I shift a lot to do a lot of different things. Sometimes scripts, sometimes videos, you know what I mean? It's always like different things.

Sometimes it's a stand-up, sometimes it's marketing, sometimes it's travel, sometimes it's you know what I mean? So you learn everything with me. Wow. Yeah, I do it all. That's so cool, man. I like to, you know, I have a long line of assistance that have gone off to do great stuff, you know. And do you tell them you're polysure? Yes.

And they know they're going to, they know that it's the job to work for a polysure. Correct. Do you, are you on any dating apps? Yes. And what's your profile picture? I don't know. It's just a photo. Yeah, I don't know. What do you say in your bio?

Hey buddy. No, I say can you type 90 words per minute? Yeah. No, I don't know, I don't remember. It's Raya, you know what, right? Yeah, yeah. So. I've never been on a dating app, but I can write it down.

And it's mostly, I don't think I've ever really hooked maybe here and there over the years, but it's mostly just, you know, talking like this and not really talking like this. Yeah. A lot. Which is fine, whatever. I guess it's, you know, weird, you know, but it is what it is. It's technology. It's changing at the times.

It's the way the world is now. They're going to come up with unbelievable sex robots from what I hear in about 10 years. Yeah. Well, they're doing that with everything else. I mean, it started with the kiosk at the airport. You used to go to the airport and there'd be someone there. Can I fuck the kiosk though? No.

I mean, you can. I mean, you could. I had like a glory hole at a curtain. Horny? Step right up. And then you go to supermarkets and now there's no checkout person, you check out your own shit.

Yeah, but then there's always somebody, because there's always a malfunction. It drives me nuts. Yeah, but they're still trying to get that person out, but they know they have to keep him there. I know. But at some point, they'll be like,

sorry, you gotta figure it out, or you can't have that sandwich. Yeah, well, they have cashiers now, where you have your food tray, and there's a camera that looks at all of it instantaneously, and then just gives you what you will. So, you know, all of this convenience is fine.

It doesn't, you still left with the problem of meaning. How do you have meaning in your life? I mean, it's all good, but if you take away all the struggle, then I guess you have time to kind of contemplate things. I don't know Sometimes I get tired of all that. Well, that's because we're older. Yeah, you know the younger people it's normal I mean see the kids come out. They're in their stroller. They're holding an eye pass So true. I mean, that's just the way you know that but we've we've at least got to the thing that's really crazy to me is but we've at least got to the thing that's really crazy to me is

The 70s 80s 90s early 2000s were all the same Except for the styles yeah music change blah blah blah, but it was pretty much the same and then once the internet came everything I mean, it's such a big shift You know, I mean is it's such a big shift the last 10 years Well now AI will be the next shift shift. You know what I mean? It's such a big shift the last 10 years. Well now AI will be the next shift. You know, what's the AI? Artificial intelligence. I'll got it. Yeah. That's going to be the next shift. Yeah. You know, and then you're like you said, they're going to be people that that just not only they grew up in it, but I think the shift that will be us meshing with machines. That's going to be, you know, for us, it's going to be a hard show, but for them, it's going to

be normal. You know? I don't know. I don't know. It's really interesting because privacy becomes impossible. And is that good? Go to Vietnam. Yeah.

Are they technologically advanced? Yeah, of course. Yeah, they all have. Yeah, I got a massage for $3 from a blind guy. What? $3. It's called Dong. That's the name of their money.

It's called Dong. Dong. Yeah, it's a three-dong. No, just Dong. It was a massage from a blind guy in my birthday. How was it? It was fucking amazing. Yeah, a massage from a blind guy my birthday. How awesome fucking amazing. Yeah, well the difference Well the difference between massages overseas or an East Asia and here is that's their world like they really get into it

They're not like you know, they're way somewhere else. What they're not on their way somewhere else Like in France the waiter that's their career. Yeah, they're in too. It's not like they're an actor and a waiter. It's like there's something really cool about that. So, but what would you be if you were in a comedy think or an actor? A street dancer in Paris. A mine, a mine. Marcel Marcel. Yeah, I'm a self.

Dude, I feel like you're in a box right now. That's a wall. It's so good. Yeah. Do you miss Mad TV? No. Too much work. That was too much wall. It's so good. Yeah. Do you miss Mad TV? No. Too much work. That was too much work.

It's a lot of work. I suck at work like that. It's a lot. Oh, dude. You'd sit around in a room and you'd debate whether Monkier and Midget was a funnier word and it'd be fights that would break out. I don't have that tension.

It was great. Yeah. But I, I'm not. Would you play the pool boy? Anything funny that I did in that show, I'm not responsible for. I would show up, and because the writers were better than I was, everybody else was way more experienced,

and in my opinion, funnier and more talented. Yeah, this was the pool boy, right? They wrapped me down, yeah, I shaved my body, because they would put this tantaron, and it would make everything look so dark. Right. Yeah, this shaved my body because they would put this tanner on and it would make everything look so dark. Right. Yeah, this was funny. It's Joe Rook and I look at that first time we met.

That was the first time we met. Wow. Where's me on there? I was on there with you. Did we do a sketch together? Yeah, we did pool boy together. You were early twice. That's funny.

Yep. How weird. What a fucking world, dude. Yeah. I wish I was more muscular Thicker. I was wanting to be bigger. You look pretty buffed there, bro. No, you're in good shape. Whatever. Buff Look like I look like a dancer. Yeah, that was all right There he is. Look at me.

Young man. I had a lot of gay, I got a lot of gay fan mail and fan mail from prison for real. I believe it. They all wanted pictures. And then I knew. Do you wonder what you wonder why? Well, I went to, yeah, I mean, I know, I understand, but I was a twink. I was a twink.

And I went to fucking, I went to a gay bar with my buddy Jimmy Burke in New York City with his girlfriend, and I was just there with him. And I was Elvis. Wow. One guy was like, I'm sorry, Bob. Oh my god. Are you? And I was like, yeah. Oh you and I was like yeah, oh god fucking Elvis. Oh god. Hey

Hey, I then I went I've been I've been to a couple gay bars I went to the gay bar the Abbey and I was stand there looking around I was there with some people one was a big agent and And I'm just stand there looking around I hadn't seen there's like a lot of dudes with a shirt off and some guy comes up and goes You're straight aren't you and I go? to stand there looking around. I hadn't seen it. There's a lot of dudes with the shirts off. And some guy comes up and goes, you're straight, aren't you? And I go, yeah. And he goes, figure, and I was like,

how the fuck did you know? I was just standing there. I was giving off straight energy. Then I fucked him. I like your glasses too. Then it's beach pro $4. Really? Fuck yeah.

How often you go down there? What's your favorite part of LA? Where do you go? You're so Hollywood. My favorite part, that's what's great about LA. It's broken up in so many different burrows. Did you grow up in the valley? No, I grew up in West Hollywood.

Okay. Yeah. No, I'd have to say, I like silver like the best because I like silver like ramen. Yeah. Which is amazing. I'm starting to like the valley, like Radford, Ventura, that area. I also like West Hollywood school. You know West Hollywood.

You and I are so different. I don't like any of those places. Yeah, wow. It's too much for me. I don't know why. I never did. Good ramen. Oh yeah. what would be your last meal? That looks good, dude my last meal

Yeah, probably sushi really I love sushi. Yeah, I go to this spot with Nicholas Cage. It's called Osaka and it's on Sahara and in in it's on Sahara and in Vegas. It's fucking amazing. They had the best Toro. That's the greatest part about living in Las Vegas is unlike anyone else. I've learned all the cool spots off the strip. Oh really?

Yes. There's so many killer spots off the strip. Wow. Yeah. There's the comedy club there now too, have you played it? I have. Why is that? I loved it.

Yeah. You want to have with Keith, right? I don't. Yeah, I helped him put it together. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, Keith Stubbs. Yeah, so that's a great room. I love that room. Yeah, so.

Old school room. Yeah, yeah. Small but intimate and strong, you know. That's great. Yeah, Vegas. I have a love hate relationship with Vegas. I, you know, I like staying at the encore. Yes. You know? Yes. Something about it. And I love, I like eating for me. Any place that has good restaurants, I'm good. Yeah, no, I'll send you some really good spots for Vegas next time. Osaka, give me another one.

Osaka, I don't know, there's a place called Sparrow and Wolf, which is on Spring Mountain, fucking amazing. Sparrow and Wolf. Sparrow and Wolf, so good. Sparrow and Wolf, that's for us. That's not here, that's nice stuff. SPAR, R-R-O-W. SPAR it is.

That's for you. There's a Sparrow Wolf. Yes, Sp's RRO. That's a real wolf. Yeah, it's a sparrow wolf. It's amazing, amazing. It's all fresh, all from there. Wow. And then there's another place called Estre's Kitchen. Damn, that looks good, dude.

Yeah, look at those fucking drinks, dude. Yeah, it's like legit. It's all fresh. It's all like made there. The bread's made there, you know? Everything's like that. Esther's Kitchen is amazing, which is another great spot. This is in the arts district.

Oh, I like the arts district. Yeah, that's like that place. Is that where Sparrow and Wolfs? No, that's where Esther's Kitchen is. Yeah, man. So that's right next to the key spot. Yeah, I like that area. It's kind of new right yes yes

well that's a thing of the biggest has a zone community has nothing with the script yeah the industry it's like the industry all the people that work the clubs they live off the streets yes so yeah i am leaving bagus i'm moving back to west hollywood uh... and then from there i don't know where I'll go. I'll be West Hollywood for a bit.

And then maybe move to the valley, I don't know. Really? Yeah. Will you retire? Will you die now, I think? If I want to stay in show business the rest of my life, then I'll probably stay here. If I... I think you will stay in show. Yeah, I think I'm gonna be like George Burns. Yeah. You know, just be doing stand stand show. Yeah, I think I'm gonna be like George Burns. Yeah, you know, just be doing stand up.

Yeah, I can't imagine I'm like fucking 98. I can't imagine not doing that. Yeah. What the fuck am I gonna do? Yeah, I love my kids though. I like it, but they don't love you though. No, when they get over, they don't know. Yeah, that's some thing.

When their babies, it's fine. When they're older, like my son's already like almost 12. He didn't give a shit, like he's, I love, my favorite thing is teaching him out of box and do shit like that, but he's, you know, he's got, they get their own lives, they got school, they got all kinds of stuff. They're humans.

They're humans, and they don't wanna be around you. They don't wanna be careful about telling them what to do. My son gets annoyed, it's like that, I get it. But I'm like, I wanna hang out with you all the time. You know, but when they're babies, it's great. That's why I said you should have a kid when you're 70. I know. You're starting to get married.

Because then you're on your deathbed and all of a sudden, like how you write your assistant program and having a kid at 70 are the three most genius things they've ever heard. I think it's the move. Yeah. Because like, yo, I can't help you. I'm dying.

Yeah, I'm an old man. I'm an old man. I want to help you. But a good run. Yeah, I guess I can't help you. I'm dying. Yeah, I'm an old man. I'm an old man. I want to help you But yeah, I'm sorry 100% by the time you're 15. I will not be here. Yeah study hard exactly figure it out And they say when you lose a parent when you're young, sometimes it can be the best thing They did something like what like all the world leaders Lost at least one parent before the age of 12. So crazy. Yeah.

Wow. It makes sense though. It's like Quincy Jones. Do you see that documentary around Quincy Jones? Holy shit. I think so. Nobody was, he's incredible. His mother was taken away.

She was a schizophrenic. She was taken away from them at seven years old. Oh wow. He was on the street. That was always working and, you know, black. When, when his grandmother was a slave man born slave So he grew up you want to tell our racism that dude, but music was the one thing he can control You know that's like for me like whenever no matter how bad things again. I think about stand up. I can start writing

Well, definitely it's the for me., it's the most comfortable place for me. It's the beyond that stage, and it's just like a breath. Me too. You know what I mean? It's just like, you know what I mean? I'm not nervous. People ask me to get nervous. I go, no, this is where I want to be all the time.

Yeah, so. Give me an audience. And if I don't have an audience, the one thing I realized is like being on sets of films or TV, it was a captive audience. It was the acting on the way, but I would have people there, I could fuck around. Yeah, stick with it. And a god forbid, I did a fucking Las Vegas or CSI or something with Gilbert Godfried. We spent a week together. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh, he like he loved to flash. Yeah, he loved to be he loved to be sticky. That's it and Like we would do a word association game no matter what you said I'd be like snowflakes

He go I go this whatever comes to your mind he goes whatever comes in my mind. I go. Yeah, just okay Just whatever I go. Yeah snowflakes puppies Black cock. I was like, no, hold on. Hold on. Maybe I'm thinking about it too much.

No matter what you said, we did that bit. We beat it into the ground. He died. Did you know him well? I mean, I knew him from back in the MTV days. We did a lot of stuff together, but I wasn't, you know what I mean? Yeah. I didn We did a lot of stuff together, but I wasn't, you know what I mean? Yeah.

I didn't spend a lot of time with him though, but anybody didn't like it. I feel like you get along with everybody. He didn't stick around long enough to have real, getting real, because that's how I was. I never really, because I had guys in deck and I was like, I never saw it. Yeah, I think that if anyone that I didn't like, I wouldn't say their name because it's like, they were a piece of shit and like, why even bring them up?

Yeah. You know what I mean? I feel that way. People, you know, and then they come around and apologize for being a piece of shit. Yeah. Like, oh, you know, like 10 years ago and I was dead and I was going through them. So I'm like, I love you. It's all good. On the same way. Like, oh, you know, like 10 years ago, and I was going through them,

so I'm like, I love you. It's all good. I'm the same way, like I forgive you everything. Like the people are, you know, people have moments or they get outside of themselves. Or they're wounded, they like. I had a thing with Al Magical, which was hilarious.

Wow, I haven't talked to Al in a long time, but I like Al. What happened? And then you just, I brought him on stage, not perfectly. Yeah. In the main room. And he got mad? Yeah, he approached me after the show, like, fucking like.

Really? Yeah. Alan, Alan doesn't fuck around. Yeah. But he's also a guy, if you say sorry, he'll be like, that's fine. Yeah, and then we hugged it out, and I love him. He's great. He said he was going through stuff, or I'm like, I don't care.

But that's how I was a great guy. I was not, I was a guy who will do, who will, like he's honest. I like out because he's super honest. And he doesn't immense words that I feel out, you know. But yeah, I don't, if, you know, it's funny. I, if people have said something or whatever, I always feel like, well, first of all,

if they're saying that they don like, well, first of all, they're saying that they don't know me. Or they have a skewed idea of who I am. Right. Or they're just having a bad time. And I'm in the way. A lot of times, unfortunately, we as people, if we're going, if we're stressed or we're not happy and then you bring it into this

Then and they start speaking about something and you're an asshole to them It has nothing to do with them It has the fact that you brought in stuff from work You know or if not work from personal life into work. Yeah, and that happens. So it's about shifting a shifting is really important I use that word a lot. You know to say shift, you know, you have to shift because you're walking in an environment with these guys that are here for you and what happened out there is what happened out there. They're giving you their time and they're here. So you have to be respectful.

Yeah. I find myself as I get older, not getting mad as much as I, like if somebody's being, just doing something bad, or somebody's being a dick in general, or somebody's lashing out. Like, what a lot of times you'll see, like somebody will be doing something and you're like, damn, you know, and you go,

but you look at their life and you go, man, I wouldn't want to be that person. That's gotta be tough. I might behave that way too if I was that person. If I was making those choices in my life, it comes to this. There's a nice people come to a realization there a certain agent, they go, holy fuck,

I don't have a resume or whatever it might be. And then they try to attack the existence. And there's also that guy that just constantly complains about everything and he does it so much he doesn't know he's doing it. Oh man. Like I work out at this gym in Vegas. That's complaining is blaming too.

You're blaming other, he's. Yeah, there's this gym that I work out in Vegas called LVAC and there's this guy there who's pretty crusty, he's got gym that I work out in Vegas called LVAC. And there's this guy, there's pretty crusty, you know, got him bullet holes and shots. And you know what I mean? He's just been through a lot, but he's just in that full on like life is this.

And you know what I mean? He's that guy. So this is what it is. Yeah, that's, you know, and you agree with it. You're like, yeah, I know, bro, I get it. That it is as opposed to like, dude. Well, that's chaos. When I see somebody whose life is chaos

or their energy is chaos, I get the fuck away from them. I used to be drawn into it. Now, like the one thing that Rogan is, the Rogan's biggest strength is knowing who's chaos and who's order. He knows who fucking is, is thrashing in the water and is gonna take you under if you get too close. That dude will be like, oh fuck, that guy's chaos by.

I've seen it a thousand times. He'll walk in and go, who the fuck is that guy? He reads things on people. He's like, why is that guy that way? What's happening? What's up with that guy? That guy, get away from that guy. He's always right.

And I'm always like, nah, you know, he's fine. That's why I always pushes me out of the room when I come in. He's like, get him outta here. Get him outta here. Get him outta here. Yo, I gotta get back to West Hollywood. It's time.

This has been good. I'm glad, I'm glad with his name. What's his name? I don't even know what's fucking name you're co-host. Where I have one last shot. Chubby, chubby. Chubby, chubby. The choppy choppy. The choppy choppy. His name is, we call him choppy. Shannon. Brennan had a message, because, I had one last choppy choppy. Oh, the choppy choppy choppy. The brand name is, we call him choppy.

Brandon, Brandon had a message, because obviously we don't want to put his business out there. He couldn't make it for a reason. Yeah. So he made sure to say, tell Paulie, I love him. He's always been good to me. And his wise guys club in Vegas is one of my favorites. Awesome.

You want to make sure that you heard that. Perfect, perfect. He loves you, dude. Yeah, no, I'm very happy for him. Yeah, he's the best. Yeah, he's that perfect. Perfect. Perfect. He loves you, dude. Yeah, no, I'm very happy for him. Yeah, I'm very happy for him. It's the best. Yeah. If you, I'm going to ask you one last question,

then you can get out of here. If you could go back in time and ask yourself, I tell yourself something. If you could go back right now and tell your 20-year-old self something, what would you say? Well, it's hard to say because I've made a lot of choices based on my heart and not my head. And sometimes I would say, I would say, probably say, make more choices based on your head and not your heart. But my mom has always made her choices based off her heart and not her head.

And I got that from her. You probably make a different kind of mistake. Yeah, and with my career, sometimes it's better just to shut the fuck up and even though it's frustrating to kind of like, I don't wanna say play the game, but just be a little bit more back. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I'm an animal. You know what I need to be free,

but sometimes that's not right too. Sometimes you got to play the game and be cool. And I say, cooperate. And I don't know if it's called the game, but it's called just play the business. And I don't know if it's called the game, but it's called just play the business. And- Or buy your time, you know?

Buy your time. It's something called sacrifice. Because you bargain with the future. Like it's like, I'll do this now because I know it's gonna pay off later, that idea. Yeah, I just think that, you know, my managers and agents that represented me back in the day were amazing people, really good guys loved them and they tried.

But I needed to be away here and maybe here I shouldn't have. Maybe I should have said, hey, just take a break. I don't need to work right now. I love you guys not like get rid of everyone. And I think that put me in a different chorus or a path. And my career and I took things very personal. As opposed to saying, oh, this is just the business. I had an awesome run.

And, but again, you know, based off of my heart as opposed to my head. And I think if anyone's going to learn from this podcast or this experience that I've gone through, I'm older, it's sometimes it's good to like check yourself and make your decisions based off your head and not your heart. But it's hard. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's hard. Especially when you're young and you're all heart and no head.

Yeah. Right. That's bitch. Yeah. I think I'd probably... Am I right or... Yeah, I think I agree with you on that. Yeah. I think I would agree with that. I agree with you on that. Yeah.

I think I would agree with that. Because you get like this thing. Yeah. And I don't know, it's a weird thing, right? It's a really weird thing because you know, I would say, don't lie to yourself, actually what you actually honestly reveal, but something you don't know.

So you do it. So sometimes you have to make these mistakes. Otherwise. It's called shifting into being a more of a professional situation as opposed to being a personal, not taking it personal, be oh, go back to business. That might be why manners and protocol are so important in a lot of cultures. You know, like I feel like like in a lot of cultures, it's like being reserved and polite and never losing your cool in public, for example, or with in professional relationships is paramount. You're taught that from a very young age, right? Very young.

Yeah. Yeah. And that would be like certainly if you were Korean or Japanese or English or whatever, that's paramount. Manors are fucking everything. And I didn't grow up with that enough. There's another side to that, which is you as an American are allowed to express yourself and say, fuck this and be kind of more John McEnroe and not Roger Federer or something.

But it's also like... That's metaphor terrible. But it's also how you're raised. Let me say that again. Let me say it again. It's how you're raised and who raises you. I had no one raising me. Okay, my dad was not there.

My mom was busy. So I didn't have that chiquillonel father Phil who's a military guy telling hitting the chameleon the fucking face. I know, asshole. That's not how it's done. I don't think that would have worked on you though, because that works on kids that have a personality

that falls into that line. Creative kids don't do well with that kind of discipline necessarily. Like I don't know, I think you would have grown to hate whoever did that to you. Yeah, and yeah, I never, know, I think you would have grown to hate whoever did that to you. Yeah, and yeah, I never, yeah, I fought my mom a lot. Yeah. Yeah, you were already a free spirit.

You were already somebody who was like, I don't wanna do it the way normal people do. And that, that a lot of times is what you get when you have, you need a certain amount of neurosis, maybe a certain amount of anxiety, a certain amount of a wild sort of like self-destructiveness to be creative, I think sometimes. I really do. I think sometimes to be creative, you've got to be fucking a little out of control even

with yourself, you know. Yes, and that's what I was. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was. You want people to like you so badly? That's, that was my thing, is I just want people to like me, no matter what. Because of my, maybe the way I grew up. You know?

But I didn't have that person to sit down with, to be like, hey, I'm at a crossroads. So your mom and dad wouldn't be that person when you would ask that. They were busy. Wow. You know, they were busy, you know what I mean? And I'm not saying they weren't there for me,

but they were, you know, my mom had her passion, which is the comedy store and the comedians. My dad was on the road. Yeah. What about your older brothers? Hmm. No, I mean, they were off doing their own thing, you know, my family's weird. We're all kind of like doing their own thing, you know, my family's weird.

We're all kind of like in our own, you know, in our own place, you know. My one brother's in Portland, my brother's in San Diego, you know, I'm in Miami. It's really interesting. Yeah, and it's like we're all in our own kind of sphere, atmosphere, whatever. So, but I think it just goes back to looking in the mirror and making decision based off your heart versus your head with your head. You could stop and kind of check yourself

and be like, wait a minute. And then you know what I mean? As opposed to this, which is like this. You know, when you know you're getting fucked over you know things are fucked, you kind of react off of this. Yes. It's kind of like drugs. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's like, you know, like I've heartied before, but I've never heartied before. I've never pulled the Charlie Sheen all night or four day thing. And I think that's this. Do you know what I mean? Not like this. Or I'm like, let's keep, this is awesome. Let's, you know, you know what I mean? Not like this or I'm like, let's keep, this is awesome.

Let's, you know what I mean? Like even with Parting with Kenisyn, you know, he was that guy that would go for four or five days. You know, he was that guy and I just, there was never that guy. And that's because of this. Yeah. It wasn't like, oh, I wanna be with Sam Kenisyn

and I'm gonna fucking go for four days just like like him I never did I just didn't have the Constitution I'm just a bitch if I drink two glasses of whiskey the next day. I'm like I can't for a week, right? Yeah, so it's not even discipline. It's just that I'm more delicate But it's interesting. It's interesting. You know some Some decisions we make in life really affect. I mean, you look at the guys that are in jail, that one that, I mean, you see that one little thing, you know that, you know, so you gotta be really, you know, whether it's your career,

whether it's a relationship with a woman, whether it's a relationship with a family, you know, whatever it is. Yeah, I think somebody said who has made done everything right and has got all the money and everything and he said, I used to think that the most important thing for my kids was to find out what you want to do with your life. And now I think the most important decision they can make is who they choose to marry or who they choose to be with. I never thought of that. You know and I

agree with it that and that's what I agree with. That's what I agree with. I don't know. I mean, you still make mistakes. You can still enter every relationship like with a full heart and complete honesty and still get burned or or it doesn't work out or people change in the relationship. I don't know. I just think that in a lot of ways like we're ex-stentially fucked. Maybe that's the point. If you're trying to be perfect or you're trying to not make mistakes, that's hilarious. It's adorable. Yeah, because it's going to happen. Yeah, that might be why you and I, when we saw each other just now, had this bond of

intimacy. I think there's an understanding of that. Like, the competition is done. I'm not trying to win anything. I'm just happy to see you. I'm happy to see that you're alive. Yeah. And that you're still doing what you're doing. I'm not trying to win anything. I'm just happy to see you. I'm happy to see that you're alive. And that you're still doing what you're doing and I'm doing. And that makes me feel good that we've been on this journey. You know, and strangers the night I would see you, we touched points. But I know what you I think part of being a comic when I see a guy

like you is I know a lot about your life. Whether you know, you know a lot about my life, just because we've done the same thing for so long. And that's kind of cool, you know, it's kind of cool. So, Paulie, sure you're the best, man. Thank you for coming on. Yeah. It was awesome. I adore you. I adore you.

Yeah, yeah. And Brandon, where are you gonna be? Where can we find you? No, miss. Yeah, Brandon. Hey, Brandon. No, Brandon. I'll stop. Again, miss you? No miss it. Yeah Brennan. No Brennan. So I'm gonna stop again, missed you today,

but everything happens for a reason. I hope whatever's going on your personal life. It's all taken care of and I'll see you next time and uh, everything's cool. Where are you gonna be? I'll be, uh, when is this air? Tomorrow. Thursday.

Oh shit. Okay. Yeah. Well, I will be in Atlanta. Woo Ooh Atlanta. I'll be at Comic Con there signing pictures next to Brendan Frazier and Sean Asson for Encino Man and Cino Man to the sequel. And then I'm just kidding. No, I'll be there and then we'll be at the I think it's called the the Atlanta theater or something and Atlanta. what is it called? Atlanta Comedy Theater. And then all the other shows are sold out, which is cool.

All my other shows are sold out. Good for you. Which is cool, which is awesome. It's dating funny money, you're also. There's Fort Wayne. I just did Fort Wayne. Yes, the guys, right? I loved it.

Those guys are great. They're great. Yeah, Adam. Yeah, the best. They run a great club too. Oh yeah, all those. You know what I heard's really good, the blue room. And I've done it, I've done it.

Yeah, amazing. Chris, right? I'm on text with him, I gotta. Yeah, amazing, great room. Yeah, great things about that. Yeah, great room. I'm on a comic strip in Edmonton, Alberta. We are not sold out yet, let's go.

February 23, 24, 25. Zane's March 23 and 4 in National Tennessee, Sony Hall. One should only March 11th, New York City come get some West Niai Act New York, Levity Live March 16 to 18. I'll see you there. We're playing all the same spots. I know. Naples Florida for a brand new job.

February 16, 17, 18 at off the High Comedy Club Bakersfield,, California February 23, Pasadena, California February 25 He's got Braia, California March 3rd One show only he's doing a lot of one shows Oklahoma City, Oklahoma the Summit comedy club the same guys March 9 10 and 11. Yeah, also. Yeah, also Yeah, definitely go check out Brian and Brendan when you're out there support Support live comedy and all that. Let's add some fucking laughs All so I'm in a band called polyshore on the crusty

That's right. And we're gonna be Paulie showing the crusties. We're gonna be at the sand dollar on which is the club in Vegas on March 14th and then I'll also be at South by Southwest with my podcast March 14th, and then I'll also be at South by Southwest with my podcast called Jam in the Van podcast, hosted by Paulie Shore, and we'll be doing a show out there. There's my band The Cresties. You're doing the damn thing. Yeah, so great.

Yeah. Look at those old guys. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, see, look at the Rocket Man guy. Look at that, that's Rocket Man right there, see. Yeah, that's what I mean. So I've been in this band for a couple of years and we just shows around Vegas.

It's pretty much called Polyshore in the Cross-Tese and it's me with like a bunch of senior citizens. I know you could sing. Well, I can't, that's the joke. Oh my God. But I commit, like I can't. Did you sing covers? Yeah, I'll covers.

What are your favorite covers? Well, they're all on there. There's Raitme, there's Bydnervania, there's Sabot Well, they're all on there. There's rate me. There's by Nervania There's sabotage old man by Neil Young Oh The bomb you got the bomb home Yes, so we do these songs out of my garage in Vegas. Oh my god, but yeah Well walk don't I mean run don't walk't walk. Yeah, bad get the fuck.

Get those tickets. Bad get the bone. So March 14th. And this is my kind of send off to Vegas because I'm leaving Vegas. We just put in my 30 day notice, yeah, 30 day notice today. And I'm moving behind the commas

to have a house up there. And I'll be by the store. I need to be by my mom and by the club and I need to have the comics. You're gonna be down there a lot? Yeah. Yeah, I love Richie and Emily and all of them are doing great over there and you know it's uh yeah. So sure.

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