The Fighter & The Kid - Why The White House UFC Card Is Making History| TFATK Ep. 1197

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen discuss why the UFC White House card could become the biggest event in MMA history, UFC Freedom, Dana White's vision for the sport, celebrity attendance, security concerns, and why this event may never happen again. The guys also debate TRT, stem cells, peptides, longevity treatments, Rafael Nadal's career, Joe Rogan rumors, shark attacks, bizarre news stories, Elon Musk's race toward becoming the world's first trillionaire, and much more.O'Reilly - Stop by O’Reilly Auto Parts today or visit us at oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER that’s oreillyauto.com/FIGHTERProgressive - See if you could save when you switch to Progressive. You’ll feel good about making a savvy choice. Visit https://www.progressive.com/ and see if you can enjoy a little extra cash back.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is really the fighter and the kid. What's up, bud? I'll say this. We'll just a little earlier than usual. A little earlier, but I'm up. You know, my kids are like, hey. I don't mind early. Yeah.

My two-year-old is like, hey, everybody, it's time to wake up. What time's you're going to bed? Doesn't matter. I'm coming in. No two-year-old sleeping. Yeah, no, no. I'm up and everybody else is up. So we take turns sometimes.

And the kids have taken to now sleeping with mom, but there's no room in the bed for dad because they breathe and move around. So I got to go downstairs. Separate beds? I try. It doesn't work because when you have a two-year-old on your face, it becomes a problem. And they move around. Yeah.

Or we're doing early because you're going back to L.A. Daughter graduating high school. That's so wild. Daughter graduating high. Santa Monica High. That's right, buddy. Son graduating eighth grade. He still has a ways to go.

But still eight days a big deal. I want to. I'm so want to get. get him back out here, you know, because I miss that. Damn, she graduated high school. My son is so funny. And then she's going to University of Colorado? Yeah.

Yes, sir. The old stump- Going to old, yep, that's right. That's right. That's right. She'll be studying engineering, unlike you and I, not as- Engineering. Yeah, we're not, you and I weren't exactly

the academics in that, in the room. That's a good engineering school there too. Yeah, it's one of the best. Yeah, big boy. Yeah. So, uh, there's that. There's that. You think she'd be a sorority girl?

I don't think so She's not She's not Yeah It would get in the way of her Academia She's gonna be successful Well she was

You don't have to worry about that Yeah I think her You just worry about her You know Being the older A successful lady with a bunch of cats Well she's pretty I know

You know what I mean But with her demeanor You know it's gonna take a Listen you better You better come correct As well I stay out of it The one thing I always say to my daughter is I always say, because I've never had to worry about her. She's so self-directed.

It's crazy. I always say, hey, leave a little room. You know how you usually you want your kids? You're like, hey, hey, you're getting a little crazy over here. Yes. You want her to get a little crazy. I'm like, I want you to get a little crazy. Let your hair down.

Let your hair down. Let your hair down. Let your hair down. I want you to get a little crazy. I want you to do something for the sheer joy of it. And some people are really good at just, they're just killers. They're killers. Competitive.

Some people are competitive. and they're just like, this is what I'm doing. And they have, there's no, nothing else matters. There's no fog. She knows exactly who she wants, what she wants. It's tough when it's in the business world, though. That's where it's tough. Yeah.

Yeah, you're going to be successful. I get it. I get it. Look, everybody has their own challenges. If you make a fortune. But she doesn't know anything else. For her, she's like, I don't give a shit. What's that?

You know what I'm saying? Like, for her, it's like, yeah, I'm just going to make all the money by a dope house. that's the point. My guess, my guess she finds, uh, she finds her counterpatter as a man. It's gonna be tough.

And then, it's gonna be tough in 20, whatever the fuck. By the time she finds a man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we'll see. We all have our,

or, or she finds like, you know how like Serino Williams found fucking cuck boy that started. That dude's so soft. When he stepped down? Oh, by what he found,

didn't he create Reddit? Oh, we had him on the podcast. He was a good, I liked him. Remember him? no i don't i don't think we did you said this before we looked it up i don't think he was on the podcast i thought he was the guy who owned who started red that was a different cut yeah we've got a few on

this show it is alexus ohanian no no no no that's his name yeah we all know him he's very famous what he's talking about reddy right yeah we know that we're saying was he on fighter and i think he was and i don't really liked him he never he definitely was not on our show i believe We've done a lot of shows. I believe he was. I believe he was. Yeah. Previously, maybe guest appearance

on the Fire of the Kid podcast. There you go, Papa. Hosted by Brendan Scha. Damn, can't say Brian Kell. Dude. Really? Yes. And he was great.

How long, does it say what year, chin? A long time ago. It was a long time ago. Was this in the 70s? No, but it was a long time. I mean, look for the actual videos. But we really liked him. He was like, he was just,

like a, he was like a dude who bought his family. I remember he bought his family season tickets to the Lakers, I think it was. He was just a regular guy. I remember, I remember we both really liked the guy. Remember he stepped down? Yeah. Remember he stepped down from Reddit was like an African American needs to take over this company. Well, I don't remember that part. Yeah, that's real. There's no official known episode. What the hell's going on here? Have not interviewed him. I'm telling I don't think we have. All right. Let's chat.

That's the last step. You guys keep talking, though. Because especially back then, like, we had the... Well, we had somebody on. But we could pick anybody we want. If you were to came to like, hey, I got the owner of Redd, I'm like, absolutely not. Well, we, I didn't even know what it was.

I have no interest to talk to that guy. No record. There's no, I'm telling you. Okay. You keep saying that. Maybe you saw it in the headlines, right? Like we just did. All right.

Well, in that case, never mind. Yeah, I don't think so. especially back then i'd been like absolutely not yeah now come on in we got a let me let me check our let me check our ledger uh man is there anything when we look at the schedule what do you have how about right now can you get can you make it right now not right now how about in a couple hours not okay how about tomorrow sounds like you got a clean slate looking at the schedule looking at my summer that seems to be wide open and the fall and winter spring.

I would just pretend I'd go, let me look, okay, can you do two? Oh, we got Tim Dillon then. Let me keep looking. Yeah. I could sandwich you in between Theo Vaughn and Shane Hill. Oh, wait, it's not 2019. Oh, I'm upside.

Chain on 2018. Yeah. No, no, can you go forward a few? Oh, wow, we're wide open. Oh, wide open. Pick a day. Yeah. Pick a day or an hour.

We'll be there right now. Okay. You want us to come to you? fantastic. Two planes and a rental car. We'll be right there. Do you say Thursday? Oh, I can't. Oh, I can't. Yeah. Some conflicting? Yeah, I just don't want to do it Thursday. That's where we're at now. Don't want to. I don't want to, man. I remember Rogan, there was a certain famous person that wanted to do his podcast. And Rogan, I was like, well, you want me to tell him. He wants your number. He goes, tell him, I don't want him to have it.

Yeah. She, Rogan and Terry Bradshaw. when Terry Bradshaw brought up stem cells? No. Terry Bradshaw's like, they don't work. You know, Terry Bradshaw's old school. Oh, yeah. Super old school. And his wife's the doctor.

Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. So you can probably find the clip gen, but he brings up stem cells. And he goes, yeah, I don't believe in him. You know, Rogie, Mr. Stem cell. He's like, well, why not? He's like, because I know a bunch of guys,

a bunch of my buddies, probably football players. He's like, they've had knee injuries, stuff like that. And he goes, they got it. And what do you think happened? Roryg's like, I don't know, he goes, they had to keep, don't. it. Yeah.

Keep doing it. Roan's like, well, that might be arthritis and stuff like that. And he's like, yeah, it doesn't work. And then Roman's like, well, I had a complete, you know, tear of my shoulder and it fixed that. And he's like, okay. Yeah. Well, stem cells, I've, I've done them twice and I've heard a lot of people, like a lot

of doctors and people that are scientists that go through it. The problem is sometimes the stem cells you get are already dead or they're not. Yeah. There are a lot of issues with them. I've got a head here up right now. I'm not doing you, Joe. It's killing me. Yeah.

And I got it injected. With stem cells? No, no, I don't do stem cells. Why not? I don't believe in stem cells. You don't believe in them? No. But you believe in that little baby Jesus?

Absolutely. That catches fish for you? No, this I do believe in. I carry a baby Jesus with me. Let me tell you what happened. You carry a baby Jesus? Baby Jesus. Like from the manger?

Yes, Jesus. Right. It's Jesus. We call it baby Jesus. Okay. Oh, so it is just grown up. They're just going back to that fishing story. I love that.

No, that's great. That's great. That's not the clip. Baba, go back for stem cells, not the baby Jesus. No, no, that's not wrong for the stem cells. That's good to watch, though. I had too many people based just on people that went and did stem cells. Uh-huh.

And what happened? They went back and did it again. Okay. Did it again. Right. Then what happened? What happened? They went back and did it again.

Okay. Then what happened? What happened? They went back and did it again. Got it. Okay. Right. Why did they keep going back?

Because it didn't work. Okay. It didn't work at all. Same symptoms came. No, no, no. It worked for a little bit. Right. Well, what are these people dealing with?

What's wrong with them? They're going back and back and back. Mostly knees and ankles. Okay. So you're probably talking about arthritis. Yeah. Probably talking about degenerative knee conditions, ankle conditions. So the amount of damage that you're trying to repair with stem cells, you're going to get a little bit of benefit in something like that if it's that far gone.

But stem cells work. I don't, you know, good. I'm glad. I'm glad they work. So stem cells actually work in certain therapeutics for sure, like they're curing diabetes. It's just a question of what kind of stem cells, how they're applied. There's a lot to it. But the future of medicine is a lot, is stem cells are the future of medicine, Yamonaka

factors and all that. But the question is, as they are administered in a lot of places, as they're shot into your body, the question becomes what, how, it's hard to measure. Hard to measure. It also depends where you're getting them done at. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I, my, that's correct.

I'd stem cell on my knee, but I don't have a meniscus, so it's bone on bone. It helped a little bit relieve some of the pain, but then it's back. Yeah. And the other thing is when they shoot it into the certain area, there's a lot of, so it doesn't quite make sense in some ways because it's, there's no evidence. It's spreading everywhere. Right. Yeah.

So the idea is we shoot it into your knee. Well, no. It goes everywhere. It's not how your body works. And then the idea would be the stem cells go there and know to go there. We don't really know that there. There isn't a lot of evidence. I definitely think they work.

But again, if it's like bone on bone, it, man, it's not a miracle. I think if it's a lot of, it's like ligaments, tendons, muscle, it can definitely help with that. Yeah. I'll play up with that. The only thing I noticed, and it was, I felt like it was really real, is when I got stem cells at Ways to Well, I, and I called, I told Brigham, I was like, dude, I haven't been, I've been exposed to cold after cold after cold for my kids. And I haven't gotten anything for a year. Yeah. And he goes, that's a common thing.

And I was like, that was weird to me. See, they're expensive. I wouldn't get them if I didn't have a major injury. Right. You know, like, I'm just going to, like, for overall health, it's like, there's cheaper ways to do it, man. You know, it's not cheap. Yeah. If you don't have, like, a legit muscle injury or tear, I wouldn't get them.

I have my friend, Joe, he did him and paid a lot for him. And he swears by him. Oh, yeah. No, if it's, I don't know. They can definitely help. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know. I love, just you're talking about with Terry Bradshaw, old school, man.

Tough as nails. Old school, you know, pros, pro man. He played for 14 seasons, dude. I don't believe him. I love it. So funny. But those old school guys are same way. That guy knows his body and he's also older.

I don't know if he knows his body. Well, I mean, I think he's dealt with real injuries, right? And he's probably tried everything. Yeah, but doesn't mean he knows. But then also it's like the older crowd is going to be a little hesitant to most new stuff. Like trying to teach my father-in-law about peptides and TRT. But then he goes to his old school doctor and they're like, well, this. this. I'm like, then don't do it.

My thing, though, about all of it is that we are making like insane, insane discoveries and progress in just how to reverse age cells, how to, like, so with CRISPR Kousin, gene cell editing, immunotherapy, curing cancers, curing cancers, even like, not curing, but pancreatic cancer, guy just got a standing ovation from every oncologist because it's such a difficult cancer, but with this new immunotherapy and stuff and this new drug, It's literally increasing people's lifespan by 100% or like, you know, doubling it. And so science is very real and it's really happening. But there's also a whole influencer culture that makes a lot of money off of things that haven't been pruned.

Correct. That's all. So, you know, there are a lot of trends that happen that I think. But also part of the problem with peptides is it's the Wild West. So unless you're getting from a reputable source or people you can trust, because most of them use a compounding. you know, faculty that is good and have high standards. But if you're just randomly or off the internet, like BPC-157 doesn't work. It's like, okay. The TRT doesn't work. Okay. TRT works. Well, it depends, but you can get shit. Sure. Well, you know, Rhonda Patrick was talking

about peptides. And she said, peptides work. Like, you can, you can show that certain peptides promote androgenesis. So, you know, blood flow and all that stuff. But she said, we don't know enough about a lot of it. So people are taking these stacks without really understanding it and that can lead to major problems because you're not really aware of the mechanism of how it's working,

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Remember my TRT? My test levels are pretty good in the first place, and then I took it and it was just like really, really tight. That I stopped it for, I don't know, two years, and I was taking HCG. My test trial was completely gone. Wow. My doctor said it's abysmal.

That's why I went back on it. So just be careful. Brian's been saying it forever. He's like, you see an endocrinologist. I don't know any endocrinologist, but I mean, people that are trying it out there,

just make sure you double check everything. Yeah, well, I think that the other thing is you want to make sure your body's healthy, man. Like you want to be doing, like I think exercise and sleep and good food.

Yeah, but again, with all this shit, you can't be an idiot. So, um, you got to get your blood work done. Like you can't just guess.

Correct. No, no. You're not actually going to go in and be like, you're not sure. It's like, you got check your levels. I'm low on this.

I need this. Most reputable peptide places, the first thing they're going to have you do. The very first thing is blood work. They wouldn't give you tests unless you do blood work. So they would do blood work every three months. And when I was on it, I was fine. Here's what I'm saying. I stopped taking it because they stopped providing it.

And then all I do is go online and go, oh, just take HCG. Right. Yeah. And I didn't do it. You were also drinking all day. Which really just testosterone. Even when I was drinking, I was still doing great. it's when I stop taking it all of a sudden.

I'm just saying that part. Yeah, you don't want to just stop cold turkey taking it. But there's things you can do because I had to get off it because it killed my sperm. I had to get off it. So yeah, that's a different breathing. Yeah, that's a third baby. But people are like, oh, I don't want to be on TRT forever. That's such a myth.

That's such a myth. There's so much shit you can do to get your testosterone back. There's so much you can do. So much shit you can take. I don't know why you'd want to. I mean, for me, I had to because it killed my sperm, but I don't know why you'd ever want to. It's like taking a vitamin every day.

I don't get it. Yeah. If you're deficient vitamin D, take more vitamin D. Yeah, but it does cost you. So that's the thing. Testosterone is probably the cheapest when you can get, Jen. Yeah. I get it, but it just still costs money.

Oh, yeah. Well, all of it does. Yeah. Yeah. But overall, TRT should be your cheapest one you're getting. Yeah. Test, but then. But again, most people, they're just or not offline and then stacking them or doing this.

A, who knows what the fuck you're getting. B, but all this is is, it's like, back in the day at gold's gym when he was like oh i'd stack equiopoise with deca and tren and guys like he's jacked i'm gonna do it it's like i guess dude yeah good luck yeah yeah man hormones are make it's cool there's there's so much so much shit you can do these days so much so much shit you can do today so much i think in 10 years it's gonna be a whole different thing. Be ready for me to have a full head of hair and smooth as fuck skin.

And way till I look like one of those myostatin cows. They got those myostatin dogs. Bring up myostatin dogs, please. Myostatin dogs. We've got to push ourselves a little bit with our dogs. Oh, there you go. Those big juicy ones? Yeah, that's a juicy

dog. Oh, my God. That's a greyhound on steroids. Yeah, that thing's... That's cool. Oh, Lord. You can't live long. No. That's a whip it. Apparently, no. And he died. Yeah, he died. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. His heart gave it. His heart gave up. Look at that. A lot of these dogs are like close to that size, these breeds or whatever, they breed them that way? That's a pit bull, yeah. A little mouse bulls can put on muscle easily.

Oh, yeah. That's my bag right there. Yeah, they're jacked. Oh, yeah. I'm always fascinated with how a lot of athletes, like if you see these athletes, no matter who they are, they just are not muscle down like that they just they're not some are but for the most part

yeah no muscle doesn't mean athletic it's weird that dog is super jugged i mean that's that's ridiculous little red nose they got to be giving that dog some shit probably that dog is way too ripped yeah i like it i'm a fan can you give dogs test can you inject test i don't know i don't think so i think that you know let's see specifically test restaurants for i wouldn't i wouldn't give a pit bull i wouldn't be fucking with it's emotions well no we wouldn't do it but you can do whoa so it says yes you can yeah it's hormone therapy because we get off their nuts you're gonna want some tests flowing through that dog okay yeah i'm sure wow all right that's cool I'm sure a good amount of people do that

Love it Have you seen any Any good TV? Not really I watched that Michael Jackson Doc Yeah Yeah I didn't watch it I made up my mind though

After that conversation Yeah Yeah it's a weird one Who knows There's two deep dives on all of it Super deep dives You know I don't know.

I literally, I don't know. It's fucking weird. We know that. It's weird. It's weird. All of it's weird. It's very weird.

Gun to the head, man, you know. With that, that, uh, I was watching that not, that Rafa,

uh, Rafa, doc that's making a lot of noise. Rafa? Rafa? Uh, Rafa. Nadele,

the great tennis player. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, uh, how he played in pain, like his whole career.

Yeah. All the time, but also just broke his body in half, you know? and his coach, his uncle was the one who pushed him so hard that and then his uncle tried to do it with other players

and couldn't do it. Oh no, it takes a special special, special kind of guy. Yeah, special guy. And at one point though, it's interesting because Ralph and Nadal was talking about. Most kids are going to quit eventually. Like if you're pushing him like down, they have a fucked up foot, they're going to quit.

Well, he got so fucked up with his uncle that he, you know, because his uncle, he was so exhausted and he was just, he started losing and then he got in his head. And so he, his wife said, He couldn't get in the car without a bottle of water that he would drink because he would start choking on his own spit. He had this anxiety. So for two years he had to, and then finally he went to a psychologist and then he hired another coach.

And the coach was like, hey, you need to take a rest. Chill out. You don't just keep working. You got to like you're exhausted, man. Overtraining is a thing, man. Well, yeah. Well, especially for MMA, probably the number one sport with overtraining. I bet. I bet.

Because you're motivated by anxiety and fear. The thing about tennis is that it's easy to overtrain. The thing about tennis is that these matches go on for five and six hours. Yeah. And then you have a break. Then you do another five and six hours. And so that just wears you down, man. They're running and stuff like that.

That's why they retire so early. Yeah. So much of it is how do you stay healthy while you're doing this year. Would you say you're going to watch the White House card? It's all I care about. Really? When you're talking about tennis, I zoned out and was just thinking about the White House. Right?

Because I'm not game in. But it's White House Sunday, right? It's on Sunday? I won't entertain any other sports. Right now. So right now, it's White House Sunday all week. All week. So if I say anything.

I can't, I wake up my goal, three more days. Two more days. You're that excited. It's the biggest. Why are you so excited about it? It's the biggest event in mixed martial arts history. I don't think so. Name one bigger.

Well, are you saying because it's at the White House? Yeah. Name one bigger. It will never be done again. We can do the sphere again. We can do the... But the fighters, the fighters are not as big a draw as fighters happen.

That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. It's the event. It's like saying the Super Wall is in the biggest game of the year because it's... What do you think is going to be there? Because the Seahawks. Yeah, they're not the biggest in the market, but it's the Super Bowl. Everyone's going to watch.

And where it's going to be on the White House lawn? It's on the law. Wow. It's on the one. Think about being a fighter. Where are you going to be training? I guess in trailers. I mean...

Oh, they have it set up. It's the fucking White House. It's going to be sick, dude. They're a billion-dollar business. I mean, world-class, dude. And here's thing. It will never be done again. Definitely not in our lifetime,

but we'll never be done again. And you're crazy if you don't think I have that belt coming. What do you mean? I have that belt coming. You bought it? I have someone sending me one. Let me say that belt? look at that fucking belt wow that's pretty cool huh can't wait you're a i think you're a

i think you're a little too excited for it and i'll tell you why wow you're a piece of shit i just think it's like oh you're donating to israel i know what's going on here what do you donate to i just kidding go no you're you're a little too excited for like yeah i know it's a big deal the biggest again argue my point are you excited about who's going to be there are you you excited. Oh my God, no. I wish none of them were there. Those elite oligarts that don't know what the fuck they're watching. Like I told you, my idea is just give all the tickets to the troops. So Adam Sandler, Jason Statham, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, Mario Lopez, Guy Ritchie, Jared Letto. Jared Lotto's always at the fight, though. All right. Let's see. So a lot of people aren't going to

show up. Well, they said the Rock's the big one. A lot of them are busy, but again, I bet you they put out feelers for so many. Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to, I think a lot of people are going to go like this. The conversation is going to be like, it's a political move. Do we want to deal with right? Where do I want to go? What if somebody shows up and then I'm seeing shaking hands with them? There are certain people I don't want to be associated with. There's a lot. But then, and then also just the risk of, it's a Trump event. There's crazies out there. There's also that risk. Like, all have fighters who are going to D.C. like, man, where are you watching the fights? Where do you think it's George's fights? Home?

Here's the biggest issue. Here's the biggest issue. I don't think it's any of that. I think it's the shit you have to do to get there. The lines you have to wait. Even if you're super famous. Not at the White House because there's only, there's going to be 3,000 people,

but there's several different entrances. Yes, but it's still. Oh no, it's going to be a nightmare to get through. But I'm saying once you're there. Yeah, but you're waiting in line no matter who. No matter who are. Oh, yeah.

Like Tucker Carlson was talking about this when, when they went to church and everybody's in the, a line freezing him charlie kirk everybody's just freezing their ourselves because there's a there's a protocol to to the security and they're like they go through everything so everybody's gonna have so it's the amount that getting there drive your car park then a shuttle then another shuttle then an escort then a line then security it's thousand things and people are like fuck that yeah it's history be cool it's history i would go just me i would go if it was like you and me i wouldn't bring my kids my wife no no just in case

Just in case something pops off. Right. I don't want to be around it. If something popped off, I'd be like this. Get down, Brendan. Get to fuck down. And I throw my body over yours. That'd be cool.

Yeah, name a bigger event. And you'd be like this. You know what I'm saying? Be name a bigger event and you'll see history. Ever. Um. It's just, it's hard. You can't.

I wonder what the ratings are going to be. You think everybody's going to tune in? Massive. And Dana went over it because it's not on CBS, but Dana was like, you got to realize. I forget how many homes he said they're going to be in, like two billion homes. It's on Paramount Plus, but that's just in North America.

Around the world, it's in over two billion homes. So that, Dana was like, he's to do Super Bowl numbers. Like the Super Bowl numbers are worldwide, right? So he's like, yeah, it's going to be Super Bowl numbers worldwide. You think so? Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's massive, massive, massive. Again, to your point, it's a little different because, you know,

no one's really talking about the fighters unless your balls deep in it. It's just, that's how you know, it's going to be so big. It's the event. The Super Bowl's an event. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's the Seahawks versus, you know, this team.

Can you imagine having to run security, the headache that is? Yeah, but it's also your job. It's like, fuck. Nobody gets. So he went to the Knicks game, I think, right? And they were talking about, like, having a shutdown Penn Station and like what that did. He was like, I want to go to the next game. They were like, oh, fuck.

Like, the. I bet his team when he's like, hey. But it also inconvenienced so many travelers because people couldn't come in to Penn Station is where you come in. That's where you get. To go to Madison Square Garden, that is the busiest. You know how they have the claw? It's called the claw. You've seen it looks dope.

It's like a US flag claw. Trump's like, we're going to leave it there. No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. Yeah. Let me see that. Let me see that claw.

Yeah. Oh, it's cool, man. I like that. I like that. there's uh there's actually finished photos of it though you're all over online and stuff oh yeah i want to see that yeah the x factors are the weather you know the weather yeah dude i never thought of that so it's outside it's it's covered but it is outside yeah it's covered but it's outside but like dana said if there's and there's not supposed to be uh lightning but he's like if there's lightning

he's like everyone grew up playing sports right in lightning you go inside for a sudden come back out right it's like that's what we're going to do I love he's like what I love it he doesn't care it'll be a little humid but and there's no forecast for rain or thunder that's really cool they're gonna be fine it's something for shows to talk about that's really cool what time is it gonna be 7 o'clock hard time

and there's only seven fights I think it's supposed to end at 11 o'clock so I'm curious about the pacing if there's gonna be one thing they get lit up on it's gonna be the pacing because you gotta fill that time slot you only have seven fights yeah who knows

how those fights are going to go. Wow. Doesn't look like it's very, it's a lot of cover for rain. Just the top. Yeah. All right. Wow, that's a small,

intimate. That is a small arena. That is small. Just fucking up that grass. Right? Yeah, it's like the apex, you know? Yeah. But it's on the White House.

It's right fucking there. Dude, they're warming up in there. They're warming up in the White House. again it will never be ever done again ever in our lifetime they're warming up in the white house that is such an honor like think about that you can just say now imagine being steve garcia who's um fighting Diego lopez he's the first walk of the night he's the first fight of the night you're the very first fighter ever and probably that's a lot of pressure bro to fight at the white house yeah making the walk that's kind of amazing that pretty cool

how many fights has Garcia had? He's a stud, man. He's a Jackson guy. Oh, I want to ask you this. You know, Greg Jackson, you know, he, Garcia's his guy. He's cornered him, I think, for all his fights. He's skipping the White House one.

Doesn't agree with Trump's politics. See, I, to me, it's not about that. A hundred percent, be. To me, it's about, it's about. Everyone knows I love Greg, Greg coach me for a long time. Yeah, I love Greg. I saw that way. I love Greg, too.

Oh, man. I think, I think, Because now you're making about that. To me, you can do whatever you want. I respect Greg and whatever. To me, I'm just saying, it's a little bit like this. It's like, it's the same thing with the Saudi Arabia thing. It's like, if you want to start playing this game with what presidents do, we can do that.

Yeah. No one has a, I mean, I think it's not about, I don't think it's about Trump. I think this is about the United States. I think it's about the White House. I think it's it's about the UFC. This is the UFC fighting at the White House. It's historical. It's also a celebration of America.

Of America. You're missing it. That's what I'm saying. That's what I think. If it wouldn't matter to me who was president. If I was a fighter, I would be so upset with him. I'd say, hold on. Let me get this straight.

You're going to miss literally the, even if you fights for a title fight fight won't be bigger than this, you're going to miss the biggest fight in my life because you don't agree with the politics of the current sitting president. Man. You out of your fucking mind. all the work I've put in, all the times we've been in the gym. You need your coach there too, right?

Psychologically. And it's also, he's the game playing guy. He's the mastermind. Hold on. You're going to miss it because you don't agree with something he did. The fuck is wrong with you. I would switch camps.

I'm out. Oh, that's what you think of me? So you're putting politics above me now. And I've put in all this blood, sweat, and tears over the years to get here. And now you're going to see. sit this one out. Soft shit, dude.

It's just, it's just bitch shit. I love Greg. God, what are you doing, dude? Well, you know, some people just, they look at it differently. I have a friend who, I told you, I have an old, old friend, an old friend, really close friend. I've known him since I was 18 years old. He doesn't talk to me anymore because he thought that my posts on my Instagram were pro-Trump, which I'm not, which I'm not.

I mean, people, you're a conservative. liberal. What is the subject you want to talk about? What are you talking about? I don't know what I am. It depends. I'm definitely not a Kamala Harris supporter. No, unless you're like some crazy left-leaning, you know, transgender, kids can pick their sex. I don't think my, I don't you're that extreme. I get along with everybody. I don't think my political point of view is very extreme at all to you. Like, and it's my friend. I've known 18 years. But some people like just decide, I'm not going to be friends of that person. I'm like, hey, and they make these choices. And I'm like, Good riddens.

Right. Good ridden. Right. I was so, I was like. But I was a snowflake. Oh, you're not my real friend. But you also know me, dude. Like, give me the benefit of the doubt.

What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, just a snowflake. Really weird. I would be just, I would be just as excited. Yeah. They're focused on the wrong shit. I'd be just as excited if Biden was doing this.

And I can't stand by it. If Kamala Harris is president and I could fight at the White House, I'm fighting at the White House. I don't give a fine. There's a lot about Trump that bugs the shit out of me. I'm not. gonna oh there's his support is in the dumps yeah but i'm still gonna he regrets it guarantee it sure he's made a critical air but i'm still gonna fight there i mean you know look at that

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see each other. And then she's like, he's sleeping on her bed. She insisted. She's on the couch. And she goes, what is going on here? I'm attracted to this man. And he was like, I'm attracted to this woman, this is crazy. How old is he? I believe he would be 24 years older than she is. Yeah. No, hold on. It has to be.

If she's 24. Right. Is that how that math works? Yeah. Yeah. So I would imagine, right? Right? Or we couldn't have to be 24.

Yeah. She's 24. He has to be 20. So he's at least 48. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. That's right.

That's correct. assuming he had her at 24 what's that assuming he had her at 24 well if she's 24 she's been alive for 24 years and so he was but we don't know he he could have been 16 and had her correct yeah this is where you realize we're so dumb we're so dope yeah we don't know well if he was 20 let's assume he's over 20 she's he's 24 years older no matter what yeah but so yeah but so we're so we're so we're if he was 10, but he chanced her, he was probably 20-something. Okay. So let's call him 48.

So, but in fact, actually, I think they were both teenagers and the parents didn't let him have, I think that's what happened. Okay. So I think he was probably like 20, 19, 18, something like that. So she gets pregnant. So anyway. Wait, wait, wait. You can't step over that.

Huh? He impregnated his daughter? Oh, no, hold on. I'm not there yet. So they have a five-year affair. And they're like, this is so wrong. but they just connected so deeply, father, daughter. Yeah, because it's your daughter, dumb, man.

Yeah. So clearly you're in connection. And then she got pregnant and she had the baby. Baby's healthy or baby has? Very healthy. Oh, wow. The thing I'm going to ask you is, what are we to do with this? Where do we place this?

What is this? She can't go to Australia. I guess they said that you can be, that's illegal. It's illegal everywhere. You can be arrested for it. In America too, Bubba. Yeah. Yeah, we can't have that anyway.

You can't be having your father and daughter. You can't have that. You can't have that. All that's wrong. It's just in every way. It's just like, what? It's terrible. Like, you know, like, there's something about that that just, no matter what.

Can't have it. Now, now there are two ways that sit in this with us. For me, you don't know each other? Yeah, but for me, it's still like, it's just unnatural. And so even though, like, there are some people that say, well, it doesn't hurt anybody. wrong for me it's like well no i can't it now now i don't know there's no penalty it's just but i understand why why it's into these aren't there well there is but you know you probably there it is adopted as a baby yeah oh because oh wait she was a dub oh no she was adopted he gave her up

he's her biological father yeah they didn't let the her mom keep her because she was younger Um, it's weird. I believe in that situation. You know, it's weird? If you're the father, you gotta run away, bro. Yeah, let's say, but what if they never found out they were related? I understand. So it's kind of like the pressure that.

Yeah, I get it. But also, you just, like, sometimes you just can't do that. Like, there are certain things you're not allowed to do. Oh, so you're attracted. You go like this. Watch. Move on. He's arrested.

When a disgruntled former girlfriend of Michaels reported our relationship with the police in Australia. Michael was arrested and later received a suspended sentence if it was legally classified as incest, although because the relationship involved to consenting adults who had never known a family relationship, it was referred to during proceedings as technical incest. British police interviewed me at the request of Australian authorities but decided it was not in the public interest to pursue charges, yet the possibility of an Australian warrant hung over me. Something I tried not to think about. So she hadn't seen her husband, her son.

she wanted to see her son who was 15. I mean, dude, I don't know. Do you know if they're still together? They met as strangers. To me, to me, though, like,

to me, as the man, like this guy, I'd be like, hey, bro, come on. There are, I'm sure you guys connect.

Like, that's your biological daughter. Yeah, there should be something in him. I just think you can't do that. There should be something in him that doesn't want to do that. Yeah, you got to go like again, watch. Oh, what, what, what are you doing? Yeah, but how about this? Let's say they met just randomly. She never met him. Obviously, he gave up for adoption. They meet randomly at a bar. And then they have a 20 year marriage, beautiful family. And then they get their DNA done. And like, guys. Okay, that's different. Sit down. Because you didn't know.

But is it still wrong? Not if you didn't know. But now you know. 20 years later you have this beautiful family. You're living together. I mean, that's crazy. Now, I mean. And that's the same thing, right?

Yeah. Well, that I would say, that I would say, I'd be like, I'd be like, I guess you are, you're dealing with what you're dealing with. I mean, that would be a little bit different. I'd be like, just don't tell anybody. Yeah. I don't know what to do with it. I don't know what to do with that.

But I know that in this case, You got this great connection with your daughter. She's your biological daughter. All dad should have a good connection with their daughters. It's just. Biologically, you should be feel connected. There are certain things that are just unnatural and you got to go, no. He must have been a shitty dad too.

He's like, God, I've never felt this before. Love of your daughter, retard. Yeah, well, he, yeah. God, I've never felt this before. Yeah, yeah. A connection to your kid? But also, my thing is like, just because you feel this deep connection, doesn't you just not allowed to do this.

That's frowned upon. What if it's your cousin? I'm a little bit more. I'm a little more lenient. I don't have to see the cousin. If it's your second cousin is a bona fide dime. Yeah. If it's your second third cousin.

Second third. I got you. West Virginia, it's encouraged. Yeah. I mean, there are a lot of cultures where it's like, yeah. Second third cousin, a little easier to swallow. I get it.

I get it. I don't know. No. No. Second third cousin, your third cousin, 100%. It's not even a lot of. relation. Second cousin.

What else you got, Jen? That is weird. Did you see the story coming around? There was rumors that Joe Rogan was going to replace Anderson Cooper on 16 minutes? CBS is run by Barry Weiss, who's like, you know, a great journalist and, you know, the, the Thorn in a liberal in the far left side. We knew this was never going to be a thing. Rogueling ever entertain it.

I'm sure people around the world that aren't as into the whole, you know, podcast. was also older than 57. Yeah, but obviously it's a false rumor. Yeah. The Joe Roggan's experience is not being considered to take over. False. Yeah. Yeah, it's not real.

They could never hire him to do that. No. Never. A, they couldn't afford him. B, he would never sign up for that. He's completely against corporate and this big brand shit. He would, anybody who knows Joe, even if you just listen to show and you saw this rumor,

He is not, I can tell you this, he is not motivated by money either. He's got enough and there's no money that you could throw it in. I wouldn't be either. Yeah. It's like, not motivated by money. I'm just saying. Because he has all that's what I'm saying. He's like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. But yeah, it's like, hey, we want to give you like, you know, 300 million. He'd be like, this is a shitty thing that happened. So this dog, this dude has his dog that has 1.5 million followers. Oh, come on. Because, you know, you know, this looks like a fake. This is a real story. So this is in China, by the way.

So the dog has 1.5 million followers. This guy, he loves his dog so much, always posts about him. That's a great dog. Yeah. And then when he went, he left town, this, these two people, a woman and a guy, went on a moped, saw the dog on the farm and thought it was a, they said they thought it was a stray. They picked it up, sold it to the local market for $26. Dude.

And it was eaten. the next day by whoever eats dogs. They put him down and ate them? Yeah. So that's the couple that stole the dog. You guys. You stole that dog. And that's the dude with his dog.

Dude, he must be heartbroken. Yeah, but also take better care of your dog. How'd the dog get away? I mean, it's on his property. It's on his property. Oh, hold up. They went to his house. He has a farm.

They stole. And they thought he was just a stray dog. It's a joke. And it's not a joke. It's an excuse. That's what they're telling you. They stole this dog. See, look at this right there?

That's a great. dog. Oh. What a great dog. It says, go out. You go right there. Let it confront to the restaurant butcher who killed shoot co. Hoping to recover the remains or fur, but was told the hair was thrown in the rubbish

long ago. Yeah. And even the thieves were saying like it's our, it already happened. Just let it go. It's an accent or something like that. Hey, dude, you took the dog. Like. Hey, but also China.

Don't kill cute dogs. Man, that sucks. Bummer. It's the most Chinese story ever. All right, here's one that's... I would have to say. That's the most Chinese story ever. That's the most mainland Chinese story ever.

Oh, what? Yeah, this is a naval employee at a base, and during lunch... Oh! I saw this... B, you know what kind of shark this is? You should. Tiger shark.

You even see the fucking shark? Okay, sorry, sorry. He didn't He's in camera A man spotted Fighting for his life He riding the water In harrowing police for him

He didn't die He's in critical condition though Authorities say two staff members Went for a swim in the nearby Recreational Marina When the shark struck Attacking one of the men Severely injuring both of his arms

Have you got the person out of the water No the first I think it's still in the water First responders Rushing the man to a local hospital a naval commander saying their actions were critical. We continue to have the safety of all our personnel, paramount, and all of the operations that we do on board the base. Look at it.

Oh, my God. See the tail? The attack comes during a string of similar sharks. That's a crocodile. It's a thrashire shark. It's a thrusher shark? Yeah. From a nature trail in Brooklyn.

See how long the tail? Yes. To a fisherman hooking a great white in Nantucket. I don't know why they're tossing this in there. Tonight, authorities say that naval staff member in Florida is not recovering from surgery. A Thresher shark. I think the Thresher was a different, they're just talking

about different sharks. I don't think they've actually That looks like a Thresher though with that long tail. That's the only shark with that long of a tail. Yeah. Which I've never heard of one to attack him. I haven't either. There's no other shark with a floppy long tail like that. Yeah, but is that the That looks like the

No, no, no. Well, that's not the tail. Wait, go back again. That's the fins. That's the, you'll see the The long, holy shit. You got to go to where at the end where it shows the tail

it's so long. I think that was footage of a different. They're showing like other sharks. Yeah, I think that was footage. You want to watch? We can watch it again. I think it was different.

Can you fast forward so I don't have to watch it? This is just Instagram, man. Let's see, let's see. It's a very short video. Because it does that and it shows longer because the same video. Oh. Man, dude.

First responders rushing the man to a local hospital and naval commander saying their actions were critical. We continue to have the safety of all our person. That shark is in your... All of the operations that we do are. So watch. Right there. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. See, that's not.

Similar shark sightings. Oh, that's just a siding. Oh, okay. Just, you see, that's a thrasher there. That's a thrash. This thing was probably some kind of... Oh, that has to be a bull or tiger then. Oh, I thought that was the same.

I see what you see, Chin. Yikes. I was going to say, I've never heard of Thrasher's being that aggressive. Thresher. Thresher. Thrasher, like the band. Okay. Have you seen this clip from Kristen Cavalari?

I guess she has a new podcast and just watch it. She's talking about grammar, but watch, just listen. Grammar on a man is a big fucking deal to me. If you don't notice the difference between there, there, and there, T-H-E-R-E, T-H-E-I-R-E, T-H-E-R-E, the difference in... Oh, of course, who doesn't know that? She is fucked down. There are people, is he bilingual?

No, real, real American people. T-H-E-W-R-E. Or, like, then and then. Well, I see, like, on social media comments all the time. That's mainly the thing, but I wonder if she's trolling. She's not trying. No, she's fucked up. All right.

Hey, but if you're talking long... Hold, is Christian Cavalier? She's just being in her 40s? 40s? maybe? She's a dime. She's been single for most of them. No, no, she was married to Jay Cutler,

had a horrible divorce. She has three children. Oh, she does? Yeah, she's pretty cool. Yeah, she's not one of those. I've heard good things about that, actually. Yeah, she's cool. Because we have a friend to date her, says nothing but good things. Yeah, 39. She's probably smart, like one of smart gals, you know?

Yeah, just can't spell. Yeah. Yeah. This one's just kind of interesting. You know, you've heard the whole, the mayoral race. And they said that is it is It's so shady Gone now or is it still have a chance? I don't know I don't know how it works exactly but it's so shady

So this is according to the New York Post Review They found out that 7,600 voters were registered out of Oh yeah, what a surprise And but even this even if they got their votes They weren't staying overnight And you've seen video of them like They've been paid $2 just to vote So there's here's where it gets weird to so says

U.S. attorney has announced he will investigate the findings and follow the evidence to determine whether laws are broken, nothing's going to change. Hey, don't underestimate how fucking dumb L.A. voters can be sometimes, especially the younger progressives in the white neighborhoods. This is so shady, dude. This is so. And remember, you don't have the ID to vote.

It's so shady. They had 36,000 votes in two hours. You get what you get. You get what you get. It's so corrupt. Let's go do this one first. So Elon Musk is supposed to be, yeah, past a trillionaire mark, like the first ever trillioner.

This, what, in two days or so, like the June 12th? Going public. Yeah, going public. You got to give it to that guy. His life doesn't change, though. It's cool. The four comma club. Yeah.

First member. These are Sanazes. Here's a woman falling through a manhole. So awful. This is in Brazil. There's two, by the. way. The first one, I tried to look for the video. I could have sworn I saw it, but I can't find anymore. She died in a horrible death. Yeah. Oh, she died in New York. No, apparently it's not

online anymore. It was never publicly released. But for some reason I thought I saw it. Yeah, where she stepped out of a cab. She fell right in. The timing was perfect work. She stepped out of cab. And then someone moved that manhole minutes ago. And then she went straight down like three meters, screamed for help and then was basically burned by the steam and inhale, you know, she couldn't breathe and all that. It was terrible death. It was just like, man. Manhattan? Yeah. Or somewhere in, yeah. I think in Manhattan, though. What a terrible way to go. And this one's in Brazil.

I hate that. This woman's in the hospital. She's fine, though, apparently now. So you just got to avoid manholes? Look at that. Boom. She's gone. She had a second, but that's fucking nuts. She's on her phone, too, but that doesn't matter. Because you would expect manholes to be okay. That's not sure.

I got pretty fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. And then I guess the reason why this happened is because there's thieves that go down in these manholes. They're still like copper wire. all that stuff and they don't place them back correctly. That's right. Yeah. Man holes shouldn't they be called them holes these days?

Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. He, she, holes. They holes. Non-binary holes. You want some more guys? How are you feeling?

How are you on time, bro? I gotta get going. Okay. Okay, last one then. You know, Ferrari launched that new electric car. This was dumb as shit. So bad. So they lost six to eight percent.

I mean, it's a terrible looking car. We're just four to five billion euros. It's so bad. within hours. This is a terrible looking car. It was a horrible car. Horrible. I don't get it.

Why would you do that to your amazing brand? Who decided? Also, read the room. But in Europe, with the electric cars, that's why Dodge got all fucked up. They hired a French guy to run their shit. In Europe,

they just don't understand how much people, especially in America, dislike electric cars, especially Ferrari. Ferrari, you know. I mean, that's pretty much just unless you want to talk about,

no, not this one, the box office stuff that's happening. So scary movie. I think we're good. All right. All right. You got a plane to catch, Bubba.

Yes, Bob. Going to L.A. Yes, sir. Have fun, bud. Tell your daughter, say, congrats. That's right. All right, kids.

See you in a bit. I'll be in Lutherville, Maryland, McGuby's joke house, July 17 and 18. We've got some time. All right, kids. Yeah, you do have a lot of time.

All right, kids. This is the fine kid. We're out.