The Fighter & The Kid - World's Strongest Man Brian Shaw | TFATK Ep. 973

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

Multiple time World's Strongest Man winner, Brian Shaw, joins the show and the guys talk Brian training in MMA, his altercation with Hafthor Bjornsson AKA The Mountain from Game of Thrones, grappling UFC's Curtis Blaydes, controversial picture with Jordan Peterson, almost biting his tongue in half and much more! DraftKings - Download the DraftKings app NOW and use promo code: FIGHTER True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and get up to 25% OFF @trueclassic at https://trueclassic.com/FIGHTER ! #trueclassicpod #sponsored JOYMODE - https://usejoymode.com/fighter or enter code: Fighter at checkout for 20% off your first order Fieldcraft Survival - https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/fighter Use code: Fighter20 for 20% OFF Training and Product

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It is the moment you've been waiting for. The fighter and the kid is coming at you live. No, no, we're not live. That doesn't matter, it sounds better when you say live! We're not live, we don't do live. Shut up, man! And now, it's the fighter and the kid. Live! Shut up!

We're not live. We have Brian Shaw in the house. You have the world's strongest man in the house. Yeah, four times strongest man. And you dress like you're taking the SATs. Well, because I'm going to do a competition with Brian. We have two things to do this week. You're still dressed nice.

We're going to take a trampoline class. I said it. And then we're going to have, we're going to take a hip hop class the next day. It's going to be good. Yeah. And I've been selected. Are you going to wear something different for that?

I am going to wear something different. Don't worry about it. I'm going to wear something I can move in. If you choose to go change right now, it wouldn't bother me. I'm not gonna change right now I'm like a little respect least my matches. I knew the strong world strongest man's coming I'm mad the I think first of all the way sandals You gave up hold on these are not My Draining outside so everybody knows you gave up show off what I'm working with in the back side.

Bubba, Bubba, love you. Here's the problem. Yeah, I got a nice ass. He makes me look small. You look like the Paul Bear next to the Undertaker. You look like shit next to that. No, no, no, no, hold on. Listen, no, I don't.

Listen, I know that's what you think, but listen. He, I think twice said, you have a hell of a strut. No, I said stop. You said stop strutting. I didn I said stop. Yeah, I said stop. I didn't compliment it. I asked you to maybe knock it off. But you said how do you get your ass that amp? You said how do you get your amp?

No, some lady at Erwin came up. You said something. You were looking at it. I looked at it because you kind of grabbed it and showed it. Yeah. And I said stop strutting. Because I could feel your eyes burning. No, they weren't there. Some lady at Erwin is your older friend on Camot. It I said, stop. Because I could feel your eyes burning. They weren't there. No.

Similarly to everyone I went, is your older friend OK? I went, it is what it is. You actually look diminutive next to him. It is what it is. You look like a ballet dancer next to Brian. Yeah, thank God. Just come around me all the time, dude. That'd be sick.

And you're skinny right now. Because when you came to see me in Denver, I remember doing stand-up at the comedy works. And I felt bad for him cause he had to sit in a regular little fucking chair and I was like, I don't know. I was doing that. I did that for you. You, you can't, what do you weigh right now?

Me like three 85 and what, and what'd you come down from? Well, the heaviest ever or went out recently. I would say I was probably about four 30 and the heaviest, north of four and the heaviest issue of ever been like 465 closer to 470 which was that was not comfortable. That's insane. Yeah. And is that when you're at the height of competition you're trying to move? Well it was it was we kind of had with the sport of strongman there was kind of a peak of heavy weights

that happened around 2017. And so that was then. So I was just trying to basically be as big and strong as I possibly could. Who were the names back then? That was like the Golden Age, right? That was the big boys. Well, it was, I don't know, Golden Age.

I guess there's maybe a couple, like you could say that in certain areas. Pugynowski, yeah, those boys. Yeah, I mean, Pugynowski was done in 2009 was his last one. So he was really more the guy that really excelled with more reps, moving, very athletic, very good endurance, still strong, but not statically as strong. And some of the other guys around that time,

I mean, Zajunis, Vikas and I were really battling that was kind of toward the end of our battle. So like one of us from 2009 until 2016, one of us won World's Strongest Man. So it was like of this intense back and forth. And let me ask you this, and if it's too much to be like kick rocks, when you're that, when you're literally the strongest man on earth,

like you're living a good life, like are you set? You know what I'm saying? Like if you're the best fighter on the earth, you're pretty, you're kind of set. You're the best football player you're set. Certain other, you know, avenues you're pretty set. So what I would say to that is directly from the sport, no, directly from the sport. No

Directly from the sport. No outside outside of it if you're smart and you can Do business in other ways? Yes, then then you can monetize so similar to what you've done similar to fighting There's guys like sugar shot of me, you know good money this weekend He meets the bulk of his money from other avenues which But directly from it's not like you're gonna go win We'll certainly not world's strongest man and be like, okay, cool. I'm good But if you win the Arnold are you like Scrooge McDuck? No, no not I mean not necessarily either. I mean the Arnold Historically they they have added prize money a little bit more, but World's Strongest Man really never jumped up.

Are you the strong, when you take an aggregate, like I collected, are you the strongest man to have moved the most weight? Who is that guy? It's a great question. And I guess it's arguable, right? Like depending on what you would define as, as moving the most weight.

So like, like for me, uh, I have done a, the heaviest super yoke, which is where you would get under the apparatus, put it on your back, pick it up and actually walk with it. How much weight was that? So 1,565 pounds. So a lot of weight. So that was, and I, on that, on that day, I could have done more. You know, really? Yeah, for sure. Wow. It was it was just that was a top weight But I was I carried an unbroken life for the course. Is it funny and you have kids so when kids go my dad's the strongest man in the world

Like legit. Well that that is true. It's our lives legit This is what when when you were you have always been this way like did you have this gift now? Some people have speed, some people have, you know, they're really smart. But wait, before you get in that bubble, let me ask, let me, let them finish this cause I just want to see. So the, the yoke, cause I, that's a great question.

I want to get in that. Yeah, well that would make it the strongest. Yeah. So the yoke, what, what were the other things? Well, a lot of, a lot of people would probably look at a dead lift, right? Cause you're just a straightforward lift, how much weight's on the bar, pick it up, stand up. Yeah. And in that, in that lift, how much weight's on the bar, pick it up, stand up. Yeah.

And in that lift, you know, there's, I was always super competitive in that, right? So I think, I can't remember how many years consecutively I lifted over a thousand pounds. It was something, gosh, I'm going to say it wrong. I went back when I was retiring and I was like, hey, man, I've done a this many years of a thousand pound plus deadlift at various heights now within strong link is not everything is at a standard bar height. But it was something like 13 years, I

think, or something like that, where I'd lifted over a thousand pounds. And nobody's done that for that long. No, but they have lifted heavier weights than I did. Still, that's a long time. So longevity, it all plays a factor. A lot of a thousand pound poles. And I mean, that's a long time. So longevity, it all plays a factor. A lot of a lot of thousand pound poles. And I mean, that's kind of like your, your mark. I feel like that's the right now. It's, I mean, there's, you know, been a couple guys that have, um, you've gone around 1100, but it was, you know, for me,

it was that thousand pound mark. And then for, for being well rounded within the contest, because that's only one event, right? So you, how many events typically Some contests are five. I think eight is better Overall just because you can't really hide when you have eight events with five sometimes you could have an event excluded For example, if you don't have a great grip or Maybe you're not great at throwing or something. You know know what the events are gonna be when you, before you get there?

That's all it, it depends on the contest, right? So like sometimes there are more forthcoming with that information, sometimes not, right? I mean, I've gone to World Strongest Man, for example, where I'm getting on the plane, I didn't even know what events specifically I was going to have. You just go, yeah, lift heavy shit. Yeah, so you're packing all the gear to make sure that you're trying to be prepared

And sometimes you don't find out. I think that it's better Within the sport of strongmen to give the events early, right? So like for for example for for our contest, which is the strongest man on earth that we'll put on in August I've already given the events Now so they can mentally prepare and then tune August. I've already given the events now. So they can mentally prepare and then tune into it. So you get the best of the best. Yeah.

So we're, so Shaw Classic is, is the weekend. And then we officially crown the strongest man on earth. So we have that trademark. And where's that at? In Colorado. Oh, sweet. Lovell and Colorado. Oh, sit.

Yeah. So we'll bring all the guys. It's going to be crazy. That'd be cool. I gotta come with that. It's going to be awesome. Yeah. So, but I want to get the events out there. Number one, I want the, the competitors, so we'll bring all the guys. It's gonna be crazy. That'd be cool. So it's gonna be awesome Yeah, so but I want to get the events out there number one

I want the competitors which we haven't fully completed the list the competitors yet But I also want the fans to know right like and I kind of try to bring them along in that journey Because we'll build some really cool equipment. So we'll bring them along for the builds. That's cool. It builds height Man, it gets everybody excited. It's just marketing one on one too. Yeah. These other leagues, it's a come on man. It needs to, it needs to be a spectacle. That's the thing with strongman.

It needs to be a spectacle. And that's what I've tried to get back to. Um, and we can certainly go into that more. Uh, but I also think real quickly, I also think with strongman too, what puts guys on the map, obviously dominating, you're going to get big, but also personalities. Like Eddie Hall was like the first, you know, a long time had a lot of personality. For sure. A ton of personality.

Yeah. Yeah. Eddie's a unique character, man. I mean, everybody's kind of got their, their role, you know, and Eddie and I are, we go back and forth. It's fun. It's fun for me with him. And, you know, everybody brings a different dynamic, right?

Like when, you know, certain guys are more internal with strength. They're more quiet. They're more focused, more guy. Some guys are external. They really put on a show, hype up, you know, and, and they need to get into the the mental place to, to lift that kind of weight. And everybody does it a different way, which is fascinating. Cool. Right. Like it's not every. into the mental place to lift that kind of weight. And everybody does it a different way,

which is fascinating. Cool, right? Like it's not every, I'm sure people with fighting too, right? Like you know, same with bodybuilding like Olympia, there was guys where, you know, for a long time like Jay Keller didn't have

the best personality. So it kind of went down. But before that, you had, you know, Ronnie Coleman, he had a great personality. You guys like, I went baby. Yeah. So just person,

people are drawn to the personality. Yeah. And you have to put that out there too. I mean, it's, it's, um, flip, it's being able to flip that switch. I think that's really the difference. Like, especially with the big weight, you have to, you have to be able to zone in on it and get it done. You plan around with the little arm wrestling.

Cause I know, uh, I'm just asking. Are you like professional arm wrestling. Yeah, I mean that how is the how is the UFC not coming Off you a slap fight contract So I did I went to the performance Institute and slapped the the cube tester thing She with with terrible technique at my dad, right now that I have learned a little bit more about moving my hips Yeah, that type of thing, but I think I got like the third highest score or something. Of course you did. It was, they were pretty excited.

The guy was really excited. There was standing there was like, oh, you have to do that. I don't see how power slap doesn't come. Yeah. It doesn't come to like the top five strongest. Well, here's a mil, go slap these schmucks. They've come to you about arm wrestling

and different things, fighting. So arm wrestling, I'm actually, I'm actually genuinely interested. Yes. I'm genuinely because I really enjoy grip strength. And that is that dynamic is, is fascinating. Now there's a lot more to arm wrestling than just grabbing somebody's arm. And, you know, there's a lot of technical. So I would say there's more technique in arm wrestling. There's slap fighting.

A hundred percent. Oh, I would agree. Yeah. I would agree. It's all about position and it's fascinating if you really watch it because you have a lot of the setup and where you're going to go, what's your strength, what's your weakness, are you trying to avoid it, get into it, like this type of thing. So there's a lot to arm wrestling which is fascinating to me, but it's, you know, at this point, it's, it's been there, right? And with arm wrestling, it's something you can do later in life too, right? So you don't have to necessarily jump it. Yeah, is it great to get it young, of course, but

it's something that you can do. And it's, it's, I mean, compared to strongman, obviously easier on the body for sure. So, um, yeah, it's something I'm, I'm, yeah, have you been in touch with anybody like Devon or any of this? Yeah, he's going to come out, man. Oh, he is. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to come out. Um, we've talked about it and it's just kind of like lining the schedules up and

yeah. And so have you always just been a big dude? Like always been just a giant? I've always been big. Yeah. Always. Even when you're like eight, nine, just bigger. You're asking, you're kind of, I think earlier you're asking a question about like, okay,

well, where, where did this? Yeah, how'd you get here? Yeah. How did, and you know, for me, it was like, I would do things, it's, it's interesting because when you look back on the path, it makes more sense. But at the time I didn't know the things that I was doing was, were strange, right? So like I'm, I grew up and, and worked on my uncle's farm a lot, right? So you're throwing hay bales and that type of thing.

But I'm only, you know, 11, 12 years old, throwing full-size hay bales, you know? And it just, that was, to me it was normal because I thought I just went and did that. Now, in hindsight, is there a lot of 11 or 12-year-olds throwing a 60 or 70-pound bail hair around? No. Probably not.

Yeah. Right? Or I would just pick things up and move them. It just was what I needed to do. So I did it. Yeah. Right? And it was just kind of like this functional strength that I was gifted with that I didn't,

at the time it wasn't strange. But after looking back, as I played basketball, I think if my career got longer with that, it was I never played against anybody that was stronger than me ever. And basketball was just thing not football? Basketball. Yeah. How are you not just dominating offensive tackle? So this is a good question.

So I grew up in Fort Lepton, which is a pretty small town. Yeah. And when I was growing up, the basketball team was what the town talked about. It was just that was the focus. My uncle was a coach, one of the coaches, and so it was like, hey. You were tall. Yeah, and it just kind of,

I naturally gravitated towards that because as a kid, that's what I saw and I wanted to do. You know, so football, the football program on the other hand was not good. I mean, there was guys who were skipping practice and they, I think won four games my four years of high school. Didn't do your serious. It just, it was very hard for me because I'm too competitive to go and lose, right?

So now granted, I guess you could make the argument. If I would have played, it probably would have been. I would have won some games. Yes. It probably would have helped. Probably won. It was just a focus, man. I like to dial in.

Would you say defensive or offensive? Offensive. Offensive, right? Offensive, yeah. Just because he's a wall. He's too tall for defense. Yeah. Offensive tackle's too tall for defense. Yeah. Often tackle about his size.

Yeah. So it would have been not that I wasn't interested in it for sure, but it was just like the basketball was the outlet. Yeah. Just the football just seems like a no brainer. Like if you would ask just looking at him like, uh, for sure, football background. Yeah. And it would have been that big.

I mean, I was like in high school, I was 300 pounds in high school. So it was, yeah. Like before this. How did see you not get with for this and she give you a scholarship? You know what I'm saying? Like you're up the street. Yeah, yeah.

It just, you know, it was just one of those things that it's interesting though, because I think in life, sometimes doors don't open. Agree. And they don't open for a reason. Yeah, I agree. So I, you know, played, like I said, I played and it was then that I realized more, okay, I'm playing against these other guys and I'm always stronger than them, always.

Right. I can just move them around. Like even if they at that point sometimes maybe even outweighed me, I could still move them no problem. Right. And so it's just like I would set screens like I mean there's Playing college basketball. I one time I broke a guy's back Like just diving for a ball and I I mean I felt bad about that

I'd knockouts I literally had knockouts and baskets. Would you play at seven screens? Yeah So I played two years of Juco ball in Colorado and then South Dakota. Oh, nice. I went up there. So you played all four years in college. I didn't know that. Mm hmm. Yeah.

And just knocked dudes out with screens. I literally did, man. But but I would set us out of point cards that loved it, man. He loved it because you'd all you had to give him, I think it was two or three steps. But I would just set. And if my guy didn't call the screen out, this guy's just going full steam and I would just set a screen. It's just like hitting a brick wall, right? And they would literally knock them out.

Like I'm not, for sure, but it was, it was legal. Yeah. So now you know you're that strong. What was the seminal? But you still didn't know you were that strong. Like in high school, college was everyone like, Hey man, you should probably do something with this crazy strength. You got Bam Bam.

So Bam Bam. I don't know if it just kind of naturally happened, right? was it like, hey man, you should probably do something with this crazy strength. It got bam, bam. So bam, bam. I don't know if it just kind of naturally happened, right? It was one of these things were out. Yes, I was strong. Okay, I'm playing basketball. I really enjoy lifting. I love that outlet. And, you know, to be fair, the training is what opened the door to play basketball in college.

Right. I had to start training to become more athletic, to jump higher, to run faster. And so once that happened for me and I saw the results, it was easy. I wanted to do it. It was very addicting to me because I loved working harder and getting more result.

Your competitive is fucked. I love it. So it just kind of, and I could do the work myself, which was even better. So now I can put this work in and transform myself and have a positive outcome. So, you know, as I was going through, I started to love the lifting more than basketball

in college, right? Especially in my last two years, that was really like, I got frustrated because- You were put on weight too, right? You just like, easy for you to get up to three. I could put on weight so easy. That was really like I got frustrated. You were putting on weight too, right? Yeah. How easy for you to get up to three? I could put on so easy. It was crazy. I mean, it's a gift really. Yeah. You know, ultimately, like, you know, because you hear people like,

they can't gain weight and I just go train and eat some more food and I, you know, I'd walk in it. But it was frustrating to me because I would, I feel like I would work hard in the off season to put weight on. And I'd walk into the season and they'd be like, hey, you gotta drop weight. Or I would drop weight and it was frustrating to me because I liked being bigger. Oh, okay. And-

The basketball was interfering with your weight room time. Totally. I mean, if you're doing team practice, individual practice conditioning, like all this stuff, it's hard. It's hard to keep it on. Yeah, you stay a skinny 310 pounds. Yeah. Well, I wasn't quite that heavy. I was I finished playing basketball probably to 70 to 72 80.

That's good. But super lean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was surprised. You had your shirt off because most strong guys, you know, it's kind of, uh, You know the the big thick, you know fatter guys. I mean you're fucking You don't have a lot of body to up dog. Yeah. Yeah. This is because I'm I'm in better shape now for sure now that I mean It's just kind of been this thing. So I finished my last contest in august and at that point It's kind of a transition and then we started going into the fighting, which was major conditioning,

and then backing way off of the training in the weight room, which was very different for me. That was a very different thing that I had to. So that certainly helped me to lean out a little bit. Big time. Yeah. So it was a lot of that.

And mentally a challenge as well to accept that because I love lifting. I love it. Just so having to back out of that and up the training because now, you know, as trying to be a fighter, lifting is not at the top of the list. No. Right? It's very far down, you know. And so that was tough for me, but I did it.

And so that certainly helped me to transition over. So take it, so you get out of college and when's the strongman journey begin? So I wanted to be a strength coach. That's what I wanted to do, right? That was, I felt like it had helped me so much. I loved it, natural outlet. So I went down that path and got a spot at Arizona State with that.

And I got under a guy named Joe Ken who's, in my opinion, the best strength coach there's ever been or certainly one of them. So I didn't know this. I didn't know this. Yeah. So you studied the science behind it. Yeah. So I, I was a certified strength and conditioning specialist went there.

I thought that was what I wanted because I'd worked so hard for it you know past the certification general this and it got there and it wasn't what I wanted because I wanted to be the athlete still I didn't want to be the coach yet right so it was a great opportunity and I had to say no to it because I wanted to still be an athlete and I just wanted to be competitive man I needed a competitive outlet I wanted still to train myself. And so that's really, once I was down at Arizona State, I actually first got introduced to strongman down there and everything with the, mainly the football players we worked with, but I wanted to do it first myself if I was going to teach them and have them do it. So if we were were gonna have them flip a tire, I was gonna flip a tire

Right and if we were gonna have them go through workout I was gonna do the workout because I wanted to know that that yeah how they would feel and also Just the results. Yeah, and to be fair the players like you get respect, right? Like if you're training and you're in a coaching especially if you're crushing them big time. Yeah. Well, it's the tire. It was. What is this? Yeah. I would say what was fascinating down there is some of the drills I had to hop into with the guys. And so you're assuming, okay, this is typically a, you know, top 20 program. Yeah. Right. And these guys are, you know,

big time, whatever, getting down there. So some of the time there was an odd number in a drill. And so I would have to hop in the drill with some of the linemen, whatever. And I was a lot stronger than them, right? Oh, shit. And it was, it was-

That's another, that's another like- Yeah, so it's another, it's like these moments kept happening. It was like, wow, this is crazy. I figured they would be strong. just happen you'd be like oh I can bench more I can deadlift more I can yeah all of it it was it was just kind of you know these doors open and then while I was down there I obviously got introduced to strong man and I loved it loved it so the only break we got during

the middle of the day was like one o'clock. But in that area, you're talking like in the summer, 110, 150, 120. And so I was going out and training, right? And for the longest time, I had like scars from flipping tires because it would burn, burn your shoulders because it was too hot. Cause I'm on a turf field, flipping a tire or the, like the farmers were so hot and burn, literally burn your hands. So you have to bring out like ice water and towels to try to cool them down. I'm on a turf field, flipping a tire, or the farmers were so hot it literally burned your hands so you have to bring out ice water and towels to try to cool them down. I just loved it, man.

So that was the only break I got, because I had to be there at four in the morning. And when they introduced you to Strongman, who was the main Strongman back then? What year is this? So this would have been around 2005, right in that, right in that time. Puginowski, yes. He was the man. Marius was one. But was there a moment where you,

you did the Thomas Inch? So this, this happened there too. So we went to the, the NSCA conference in Vegas and in between expo times, one of, one of the booze had a Thomas Inch dumbbell. So it was actually. Bring up a Thomas Inch dumbbell, Chin. actually- Bring up a Thomas inch dumbbell, Chin. Let's take a break from talking to Brian Shaw.

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Soren extra actually I don't know when he started that but so it's a I think the original was 2.47 inches they handle so just just about a two and a half inch handle, 172 pound dumbbell with globe ends. 172 pound dumbbell. Yeah. So the globe, the globe ends is what makes it really hard and also the thickness of the handle. So this, it's dubbed the unliftable dumbbell, right? So it takes an enormous amount of grip strength to squeeze it hard enough

so that it doesn't roll out of your hand. Oh, interesting. Because you can't put your hand all the way around it, in other words. No, you, yeah, the handle's big enough where you have to just squeeze it. It's really, if your thumb is strong enough to stop it rolling, you can typically pick it up.

But it's a fascinating thing though, because it doesn't seem, when you look at it, it's not super imposing. Right, right. It's not like, oh my gosh, I can't lift this and most Above-average strength men could lift a hundred and seventy pound dumbbell with a normal handle. Yeah, which is why it gets them, right? Like one of the funnest times I've ever had with this dumbbell was at the expo for UFC 100 and All you had to do, you were there. I love it. Yeah.

Um, all you had to do was lift it onto a four inch block. That's it. With your knuckles facing the box. So you couldn't roll it on. Right. So you just, and that was it. That's all you had to do. Just here to there.

Yeah. And so the fun, the funnest thing for me, cause I was at the booth and it's not hard for me to do it. So you'd have, you know, and everybody's walking in and I think back then it was like they flinched shirts. Tap out of the machine. Yeah, all the two type shirts. And I'd say, oh, that's all you have to do.

You know, you win whatever it was, a couple hundred bucks or something. And they couldn't do it. And they're like, oh, there's got to be a trick. There's got to be a trick. So you just reach down and grab it and just put it on there. And all of them just, their jaws are like looking at it. Like, are you serious? And I was like, oh, you have to do it.

Just pick that, you know, just pick it up. And it was great, man. So for you, that was easy. You just grab it, pick it up. So I would do, I mean, I don't know how many times I did that, because I did it the whole expo. And can all the strongmen do that? No.

No. So that's a free thing. So that's a freak thing. So that's a freak. So guys, one and some like crazy number. It's ridiculous. I don't know what it's. The guy said to you too, he goes, you know what you just did, right?

Yeah. So did you just, we were like, oh, a dumbbell. Picked it up and he's like, whoa. My man. In that expo, he wasn't at the booth when I did it. And we were just walking through and I was like, oh, that's got to be, that has to be a time. And I'd read about it.

I'd never seen one. And I was like, oh, it's got to be a Thomas H. Dumbbell. So I just reached, I just picked it up. I dead never seen one and I was like, oh, it's got to be a Thomas and Stumble So I just reach I just picked it up I dead lifted it and put it back down and then he had seen it kind of like and so he ran down there And he's like, did you just pick that up? I was like, yeah, I didn't think much of it Yeah, like hundred and seventy pound dumbbell. Yeah, and he's like, well, can you do it again? And I said, yeah, I can do it again. So I I lifted he actually have the picture He took a picture and sent it to me after like when I did it.

You just picked it up. You were just holding it at your side, basically. So he, the second one, he asked me to lift it as high as I could. And I kind of pulled it like a little bit above my waist. But this is the thing is this one. He said, he said, that's if you don't do something with this strength. That's what that's what he did say that at that point He said you have a strength. That's one in millions

He's like if you don't do something with it, that's and you're howled at this time So I would have been 20 Well right on 22 probably good time to that motivation Yeah, and someone says hey I think you can do this like really and then gives you that spark. Yeah, it was it was certainly that moment. Yeah. Um, I mean, that's to be fair, that's not the craziest dumbbell. The cra- the craziest dumbbell is actually called the Millennium Dumbbell. What's that?

So Millennium Dumbbell. Bring that up please. Yeah, yeah. Millennium Dumbbell. Bring it up. Has the same handle as a Thomas inch, but it's 105 kilos. So 231 pounds. And so now this is, this is where you're talking real.

That's weird. So were you able to lift that? Yeah. So that's, I mean, now you're talking about, I mean, the list is very short here of men that could actually lift that. Now there's a way that you can lift it to where it's not tilted. So if you lift it even, so if you don't basically put your your hand against the back bell So if you lift it even which I did do I think I'm only one of a couple men ever

I mean you're talking like I don't know what the official list is and I don't want to say because I'm sure everybody'll get caught But you're I mean you're probably talking around seven men ever on On the planet. Seven men ever. Ever. Like, it's very, maybe eight. I will say, yeah, I will say, I would be interested in seeing you fight a chimpanzee. If it was muzzled, I want to see how you do. So no, it can't bite. You can't have it biting, it's ridiculous.

No, the teeth are ridiculous. The teeth are too much. Just throw it. But if we muzzled it up, and we had a full grown 200 pound male chimp, I want to see, I want to see, and I also want to see what happens when you're at the zoo and you're looking at a silverback. I want to see what the fuck that thing does.

I want to do it right now. Have you ever been to the zoo? Silverback would do to those dumbbells. The silverback spin it like this, but Brian would have a problem. Yes. With a silverback now, like it's straight up, you know that right? So I don't want to hear anything from you. We know that right.

Don't, don't try to get aggressive, but I'm getting aggressive because I, you took, here's what you just, you just turned, yes, you turned in postured. I did posture right now. Yeah.

Because I have literally did all this talk about lifting is getting me in your grace weapon. It's getting my testosterone spike. And like I said, my dick is a little hard now. Listen, so, so where's the first competition? Wait, wait. Have you ever been to the zoo and looked gorilla in the eye?

Have they acted differently around you? I feel like they would. Gorillas don't give a fuck. You don't have to press that gorilla's. No, I think they would. I think they have a natural dominance thing. They go, why is this fucking giant human looking at me? It would be fun.

Yeah, but you haven't had that experience. I mean, I've tried to go around the grills. I haven't been, I don't think there's ever been one close enough. Cause you know, the zoo, there's the moat between. Yeah. Or something. No, at the San Diego zoo, they're right there. Are they?

Yeah. You can go right up to the glass. Yeah. The Champagne would be interesting. I don't know. They're, it's, it's crazy though, the strength that, that they have. Yeah. And grill is vegetarian., yeah, yes, sir

No, she bones ease will eat meat. Yes, but girl your face and your dick everything else But we like why not why do you need to say that because they go for your dick? Yeah, the males go for your face and your fingers now. Here's the thing I don't want you to but they're like is that yeah that they're like I don't like you you're not gonna breed and no That's so it's a real chimps. So if there's any any the primatologist at the San Diego's just said we don't have chimps We have bonobos said they settled everything with violence So they're very hard to deal with and if you look at chimps They have scars on their wrists because the first thing to do is they go right for each other's ticks and they cover up like that

Well, I could see then they then you don't get to breed. And that's how I would fight you. Savages. Just so you know. That's how, just so you know. You would fight me. I would go right for your dick with my, I'd go, I'd chimpanzee your balls. Yes.

And you'd have a big problem with me, okay? Now you would kill me in a fight, but just know if it came down to it and we were in a prison cell. You would go for that. We had to assert dominance. I'm going right now. wiener. I don't go for the wiener I don't know how you want me to respond to that. You don't have to don't worry. I just want now. Yeah Why I don't even know why we needed to go there. I understand I'd like to see how you would do against a shimp on Z Look at that Jim busy muscle exceedsal, exe-gymnoseal, and maximum dynamic force. I do actually,

and I'll bullshit, I'll bullshit aside. By how much 1.36 times? Yeah, I wonder why though. They actually haven't figured out, I don't think, maybe they have a higher fast-twitch fiber content. I don't know how they get this done. So Andy Galpin, who does a lot of this work at Cal Thornton on muscle density, he's worked with a lot of Olympic athletes. So you can say, well, I'm fast-switch muscle, right? There are different levels of fast-switch muscle.

Like there are different levels. So some people can just, like they're like human ants. I'm sorry, no, keep going. Please, no, we're fine. But I'm saying, why would a chimp be that much stronger? We don't know. I don't think the two of us are gonna figure it out. Yeah.

I don't think so. Yeah. Brian, when you were training for MMA, did it humble you a little bit? Or were you successful at that right away? Like when you first walked in training with Cody Donovan, we just got at it right away. There, there was a steep learning curve. That's what I would say.

If you steep, steep learning curve, right? There's, I felt like that was layers of learning, but the good part in this is, this is to be fair, what Cody said is I didn't have any bad habits to unlearn. Right. So I was kind of walking in and it was like, okay, I'm coachable. And he's a good teacher, really good teacher. And so you, you mix that together where he can teach and I'm coachable. I'm listening and then applying.

Right. So that's where we were able to make a lot of progress. So I mean, he said a couple of different times and I don't feel like he was blowing smoke, but he's like, Hey, I think we're literally months ahead of where I thought you would be, right? Going in. So you're punching came together. Did you gravitate towards the striking and grappling more?

I would say grappling. Yeah. Yeah. That was, well, that was our plan. Right. Like, get the guys down, would say grappling. Yeah. Yeah, that was, well, that was our plan, right? Like, was get the guys down. Ground of pound. Yep, get, like, control the outside six, get to the wall. And then, and then there was a whole system

that we had around the wall. And it was, it was great, man. Like, but I could apply it. Just a clinch. Well, you had Derek Wolf. Mm-hmm. And Derek was great, man. He was great at himself.

Yeah, super, super. I did think it was interesting. I saw Derek sent me a video of you guys training and, uh, and you just kind of picked him up pretty easily. And the single like high crotch was a good. I really, I wanted to do that so bad. Yeah. Like it was, it was great. That was your go to move.

Well, I don't know go to move, but I really wanted it because there was, there was a couple of times, well, you're training, right? You don't want to hurt your training partners, but it's just like, man, if I could get this and go full force to the ground, I was so excited about that. That was, it was just like one of these things. Just slam your opponent. And then the, the, the elbow, the elbow at the top was the one, like, you know, so if you're able to get a take down, kind of make them work really hard to get back up and then right at the top, as soon as they

got up, it was just this elbow that would be ridiculous. Just bring the elbow like massive. It was so exciting. That was the thing that I think was like, that was going to be the finisher. Yeah. In my mind, it was the way I was envisioning it. Yes. It was like, all right, I know, I know what's going to happen here. Yeah. And this I'm so excited about. Your issue in fighting is finding opponents. Yes. Like there's no super heavyweight division in America. No. It's just not, there's not enough. There's barely enough heavyweights at 265.

It was, I mean, and I went into this, it was an opportunity, right? It was a one-off opportunity in my mind. It wasn't meant to be a long-term. So I'm gonna go in and approach it as serious as I possibly can, just like I do everything else. And so I got the right guys, I had the right coaches. We were executing everything, everything was ready. And that's what's so disappointing.

I know they were disappointed too, like all of us were because it was, it was there, right? Like, and all the work was being put in, you know? So I was, I was ready to go and it's frustrating, but, you know, it's, I'm, I'm great. The thing is though, and I told, I told, uh, actually Lauren Landau, cause he was frustrated too, cause he had left for Notre Dame. Were you training with Lauren? Yeah.

Oh, that's my brother. Yeah. Great. Yeah. He was awesome. He was so fun. And so we still are, you know, he was still asking me like, hey, how's it going? Yeah, he's the best.

Because he wanted, you know, he wanted it to happen just like I did. But I just told him, I was like, you know what, man, I'm grateful. I'm grateful for it because I got to meet so many good people. Yes, the best. And learn actually skills that if I ever do need to put them into use, I have them. Yeah. Somebody fucked up on the street. Yeah. Because before, yeah.

Oh my God. I mean, before, okay, you're big and I could probably grab somebody to throw them. But now, now it's like. You see the old my ass. Well, yeah, your punching was, I thought was, did you see him hitting mitts? No, I didn't see it.

It was, bring up his Instagram, it was really good. And how was your, how were you on the cardio side of things? Cause usually bigger guys, the cardio is usually the first thing to. So I got to I got to do some of the sparring that I did I got to do around with Curtis blades which was fun. Yeah. And that was five minutes man I went five minutes with him and I felt pretty good like really I mean I. Did Curtis grapp just grab it all. He tried double leg in you. So he, um, we got to the, um, we got to the wall. I took him down in the grab in the, in the, um, back and forth.

Wow. But it like, he was definitely holding back. Like it was not full. Yeah. Right. And both of us, cause it was, I was early on and there I think there was a level of testing there that needed to happen, right? Where they were worried about me because it's different, right? When you actually get hit a little bit.

Good time. How are you going to respond and they didn't want me to be like, okay, now you punched me, now I'm going crazy. Yeah. This kind of thing. And it was so it was really a good testing. Control. Yeah. Test. And he got he didn't know was my first it was literally my first round of sparring. That's funny. good test control. Yeah. Test and he got, he didn't know was my first, it was literally my first round of sparring. That's funny. Was with Curtis. Yeah. The Curtis top five in the world.

Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was, well, he's great. His timing was incredible. Yeah. Right. Like, and, um, yeah. So, so he was just moving around with you.

You guys were just kind of, yeah. He was hitting me though. Oh, he's hitting you. We're hitting each other. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was, it was fun, man. I thought it was fun. We had a good time with it. And you miss it other. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was, it was fun, man. I thought it was fun.

We had a good time with it. You miss it now. Yeah. I mean, I, the thing is, I'm busy though. So I think you're all right. I'm super busy. That's a thing. I like it really put a strain on a lot of things.

Right. So I went in this head first, but also there was a lot of money on the line. Yup. Right. So I was like, okay, I can make this commitment. I can sacrifice and you have to shift things in your life around to make it happen. Which is what I did and I make a commitment to it.

And then I can't do things halfway. I'm not capable of that. So it's like, I had, and my wife was like, look, this is tough because, you know, we're running businesses together, we're doing things. And it's like, well, I'm always going to train. And the other thing is the training, I had to leave to train versus like when I was doing strongman,

I had everything built for me here. So I could train, I'm not driving. And now a lot of the driving was almost an hour one way. It's the worst, yeah. Welcome to fighting. Yeah, it was constant. You used to drive down Long Beach, Orange County. I mean, an hour and a half.

Every day, yeah. Two hours. Yeah, and then your training, you're coming back. So it's just the amount of time that I was away was really difficult. Really, really difficult. Especially when you got two boys, two little boys. It was, again, it was a one-off thing. So that was the commitment.

And I think probably the hardest part is for it to not happen. Yeah. After all of that sacrifice. So all that sacrifice, yeah man. Cause it was ready. Like I was honestly, I was ready and, and you know, Cody said that Vinny was both, you know, both of them and everybody was on board and it's like, yeah, you, I feel like between the people Cody knows and I know, we could find you a fricking fight, man.

If you're looking for, right? Yeah. Fuck yeah. We can't. Right? Yeah. Who would be like, who, who would be like who would be it's tough cuz he's gonna have to be the size of Brock Lesnar or something you know even

Brock's too small well it practically can walk around 300 that doesn't hear right yeah god that gives you an idea how big you are yeah yeah it's we have to find the opponent it's you have to be another strong man probably I would imagine which is what yeah? Yeah. It's fight Thor dog. Fight Thor. Thor did some Jitsu with a Goren Ryan. He did. Yeah. He came back to me. He's like, I don't get it, man. Like I gotta do well. I was like, excuse me. Yeah. I go, he's the best in the world. I said, that, I said, that's insulting. That'd be like me being frustrated. I can't deadlift a thousand pounds. It's not my thing.

And I got to go down there with Goren to his wonderful. Oh, you did. Yeah. And what was that? Did you roll with him? Yeah a little bit right? He had so he set it up. It was actually more Seriously had two two guys with him There were both around 300 pounds. Oh, give or take maybe 320 so bigger guys And I the way that he set it up. It was like coaching. Yeah, but then it was like, alright Here's your goal. So we're gonna start in this position You win if you do this you win if you do this and then it was just that way But then it was those two would cycle through so I was in the whole time

And so it was it was tough, but they're both experienced guys too So it was it was good though because they're both bigger. Would you fight another strongman? Would I yeah, I was willing to yes. Yeah. Oh was that the horse a lot younger? Yeah, he's he's a Six years something like that. Isn't he like 30 at the moment 35? I think yeah. Yeah, yeah 35. You're right Okay, yeah, I thought he's old were yeah, and that wasn't on the table 35 you're right. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I thought he's old were yeah, and that wasn't on the table That would never was that's an interesting rivalry with you guys. Yeah, you know, no, it was it was yeah, I mean both of us it's Was certainly a rivalry. Yeah, I mean we got to compete for a lot of years together

You know his did you guys get along like when you're competing with someone like that too and just not talk to each other? So I would I would say with Hofthor we went through We went through different phases. You did right and so there was there was different times because you're yeah I know I'm my feeling with you is that you know you and I get along your your great guy Yeah, but what if if somebody's competing against you. Yeah, not your friend. No For sure. I'm too committed. But is there a bad blood? You know what I'm saying? Like, is there a bad blood amongst the strongman?

Like, I feel like all you guys are pretty chill. You're lifting weight. So it's not like you're punching each other. There, there is for certain guys, right? And you, yeah, you're not punching it, but, but it's, you know, the only, um, I would say the only kind of, uh, altercation that we ever really got into was in Brazil, uh, at a contest down there and, and, uh, yeah.

What was it over? It was, uh, a dumbbell event, right? And the way that, um, and, and to be fair, it wasn't, it wasn't completely on, on him. It was on the, uh, referee, referee sense. So the, this, the way they had set this up, and I don't want to take forever because it's a little bit longer, but basically the referee said he was going to stay in a chair because we were in front of an audience. He's like, Hey, you have to face me.

So you can't turn. And sometimes with the circus dumbbell, the referee will walk around you to give down calls. But in this instance, he said, I'm going to stay seated. If you drop the dumbbell weird, you need to turn it to face me to get a down call, which is fair, right? So we went out. The dumbbell was, was really light for this contest.

You really had to be quick with your reps. And so, you know, I had done one more rep, I believe, than, than the guy in seconds. So it was like, it was a big number of reps, like 11 or 12 reps, something like this, right? And so, which is in, I believe it was in 60 seconds. So you're moving like quickly and you can't. And so it comes down to the last rep. I think Hawthorne had done 11 drops a dumbbell, goes to the 12th and the referee gets up out of his chair because he was faced the wrong way.

Give some down call by getting up out of his chair. So really the referee, I think is at play here. Yeah. Um, and, uh, so we, we came back and, you know, tension is high, man. Like people that, that haven't competed at a high level. When you're coming back and your adrenaline's pumping and you're, you're, you're, you're trying to win something that bad. It's, uh, you know, it's just a higher, it's just a male thing that's higher,

right? At that moment. So I came back and I was pissed off at Hoffthor because he didn't face the referee. And I felt like, okay, you didn't face the referee, but also the referee got up, right? So we got into it a little bit, um, there and, and, uh, you know, I think you probably scared a few people backstage. Oh, giant. Yeah. But you know, it's, it's things, you know, I think you probably scared a few people backstage. A giant set of girls. Yeah, but, you know, it's things, that's the height of competition. Competition is so interesting like that. When you look at the top tennis players, they've been playing against each other in many cases

since they were literally six and 70 years old. So they know each other super well. When they are waiting to be announced and play, they're this far away, they're not looking at each other, they don't say hi, they don't talk to each other. It's like, it's so wild. They're just like, dude, you've known each other forever. They're like, no, they will not talk to each other. Well, that's like box.

I mean, like Ryan Garcia and Haney, they fought four or five times already in Amateurs. Oh, they did. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah, they all come up together. Yeah, what's going on with Ryan Garcia? I don't know, we'll get to it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah, they all come up together. Yeah, what's going on with Ryan Garcia? I don't know, we'll get to it.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, anyway, you're gonna have, you're gonna have competitiveness, right? Like, and I think the key is to be able to turn it on when you're competing and then afterwards you shake hands, whatever, and that's typically what happens, right? Like, I mean, there's sometimes higher tension between certain guys, but, you know,

collectively speaking, you know, most of the time it's like, Hey, we're going to go out and compete. I'm going to try to beat you. You're going to try to beat me. And then we're done. Contest is over. You've got more wins and Thor though, don't you? Overall, I mean, at the top level contest, yes. But it's, you know, internationally, I don't know how many he has. But I would say like at the bigger contest, yes. So, you know, internationally, I don't know how many he has, but I would say like at the bigger contest, yes. So, you know, it's, but a lot of the guys in Europe are, it's easier for them to compete more.

And also I made, I made a conscious choice earlier in my career that I was only going to do the biggest contest and then maybe pick a couple other contests because I wanted to have longevity and I wanted to be able to last and not burn myself out. You know, I don't want to compete 10, 12, 15 times a year. Just doors had a lot of injuries, right? Not a lot. Actually, he has, uh, he did pretty well with, with avoiding injuries. I mean, him and I bolted, uh, to be fair, like, you know, I, the really the only

like knock on wood massive injury that I got was I'd attached my bicep In 2012 and had to have that reattached that fun. That was just from me training not smart Yeah, but you know, I know that when we worked out you were really carefully even with lightweight like you're serious Yeah, if you're like just demonstrating your you take it so seriously because any little detail Can fuck you up. And that's so that's what is but I mean for him he tore it. That's that's the biggest thing for him and it is it is about him but he's he's coming back. I mean he's coming back to Strongman and you know it'll be interesting to see.

He just did some dead lift over a thousand pounds. Yeah just this last weekend. Yeah and that looked great man. So I mean certain things it's like like, once you've been there, I mean, that event, like within the sport of Strongman, the deadlift there, because they competed at the Arnold, that's a unique one, right? And there's been some conversation within the sport

about that weight, because it's the same bar and the same weights that we always used. So, you know, it's a thousand and six, but, you know, we've had different conversations. I actually did a small podcast with Hoffthor this last fall talking about it, because, you know, for me, typically my opener on that bar was around 970 or 980. That's your opener. Opener, first lift, whereas most of the competitors are getting out You know in this year. It was a first event of the contest. So everybody's fresh. What is that lift?

What's that lift the deadlift deadlift? Yeah, yeah 960 your opener not typically well I think my last year on that bar. I opened at 980 second They said if you wanted to judge somebody's strength from one lift typically it would be deadlift Which is what we were saying earlier about that, right? So it's a great indicator of strength for sure. So, you know, but Hofthorne only had to lift 2006. Like there's nobody pushing him to go beyond that, right?

So like my second lift would have been a, like that year was 1,021 was my second lift. And then Hofthorne and I- That's right, every additional pound makes all the difference, right? Yeah, well, that's the way that you choose your weight jumps and that's what's on the list of the 1,021. But then that was the year that Hall Thor,

he set the record on that bar at 1,045. And then my last lift, I had him, I had him where I wanted him. My last lift that I call was 1,051, right? And that's where I tore my hamstring on that one. So I my last lift that I call was a 1,051. Damn. Right? And that's where I tore my hamstring on that one. So I didn't lift it. But that would have been, I played the cards right.

Have you had it where in training, getting ready for the strong man or whatever, Arnold, whatever is or the Brian Shaw classic? Have you had it where in training, you lift a lot more than you do game day? No. Never, right? No. Because I'm adrenaline and everything. You leave it, leave it.

Yeah. So you'll do kind of a training max, right? So I would always two weeks out was kind of my test day. And you leave a little bit in the tank, right? Do you do have smelling salts? I've seen that before. I only do it in those type of scenarios, right? Right.

What does it do for you? It's a party. I love them. Yeah. I mean, it wakes you up. Like, it wakes you up and gives you a different sense of focus. It's so weird. You actually like him. He was like, I love him. Yeah. They're not. I don't mind them. The thing is, I just, I never overused them in training.

Yeah. So some competitors usually do it almost every training session. And it doesn't have the same, in my mind, it doesn't have the same effect. Yeah. So for me, I wanted it to have this adrenaline release, right? So, you know, it's like, yeah, it's, it's like you, you, it wakes you up and gets you ready to go, but it's kind of a, another addition to that switch that you're flipping on.

Have you, which ones have you used that juju's? Uh, I have, I've, I've smelled them. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're, uh, I, I mean, I, I was always, I liked the, uh, the capsule ones better. So I had, I just had a routine where I would put it behind my ear. So it was really easy.

I didn't have to deal with a cap. That's great. So like I would just walk up and I could pop it and then I do it and then throw it and then I was ready to go So I was that was my thing is I just it was a routine, right? Like as I had practiced it that way So I knew how to execute that so you tighten the belt and you do you know, it's just like the whole routine Like everything is the same juju and his wife make them They're both like engineers backgrounds, but so they came up with the recipe and early on they couldn't figure out,

they were somewhere where it was freezing. And they packed all those smelling salts, like all his state of the art smelling salts, but when it's cold, it suppresses the smell. So it doesn't work. So they're out in the cold and he was giving it to everyone. They're like, these suck, dude. He's like, what the fuck? They were working.

See, I don't get it. And then they went into like the tent where it got hot with the fire. Yeah. He's like, I don't pull my God. And it just blasted. Yeah, I can't. Oh, wow. So he fixed it where the cold doesn't affect you.

What is the chemical, I wonder? It's an ammonia. Ammonia. Oh, OK. So like they would use it if you were knocked out. A scene on Joe Rogan's podcast. Wake it back up. Where'd you do it?

Is that where you did it on Rogan's podcast? I did it at Rogan's. I did it before that because we had him at when I was shooting stuff for rain I've never done it. There's so much fun. You've never done it smelling salts. Yeah, I compete I don't think they're for you Yeah, when I lift weights out on it. I mean, I don't need that. Oh if you drive a Tesla you can't hit them No, I'm serious. Jude you has a thing where when you're doing shipping It was when you drive Tesla. We don't ship. No, sorry. Sorry. It's out of sorry Fresh out. Yeah, and then I just go I don't need him and I just fucking go and I did lift it

You're so fucking skinny next to him. It's so distracting That's I just like the number 10. It looks like the number 10 right now. Or just can you pull your shirt like straighten it a little bit? Dude, dude, dude, I can't fucking wait to compete against you. So Brian, what's, what's, what's, uh, for you coming up? Like what's the obviously arm wrestling down the road, the Brian show off classic. Yeah.

Like what else is there left to do? Transition has got to be, this is where like people who've been so competitive for so long, like we've talked to fighters like this. It's a, I think you're gonna be, you're gonna figure it out like you always do. Well he's already figured out. He already has all these other businesses.

No, he's good. Well no, I mean, but you're gonna miss that competition. Well, I think I think I'm always gonna miss competition. Yeah. Right, like that's natural. But I also with strongman, I wanted to call my shot Right, I wanted I wanted to exit when I wanted to exit right and that that was important to me

And I always said that at the beginning. That's what I want to do right because it wasn't that I physically wasn't capable Yeah, I still was man. I went out. I mean I won I beat all of the current guys and It was I mean, it's very hard to argue with that. You want to go out on top? Yeah. That's smart. And that's, that's what I wanted to do.

And I was, I was still fully capable of that. Yeah. You can argue. Okay. Was I maybe a little bit slower or whatever. Yeah. But I've been doing it. I mean, for me almost 20 years, right?

Like total. And that's, but you know, I mean, I was top, well top 10 at where I mean the final world strongest man 15 years in a row. Right? No, but I mean in 16 years. How old are you now? 42. I just turned 42.

And is there an age like in fighting, especially at the lighter weights when you turn 32, it's like it's a disaster. At 32 it's game over. That 32, it's game over. Well, strength, strength is interesting. I think it depends on how many miles you got on your body. Really? Yeah, that makes sense. But also how would you say kind of, yeah.

And this is also a big part of it. Are you smart with your training or not? Are you running too hard? You know, maybe you have to allow a little bit more recovery later in your career and be smart with how you're feeling. Yeah. Right? But it strength wise, you can get stronger for sure.

Like who's the oldest strongman like compete with the big boys? Like top five? I mean, there's, there's a couple names, but Mark Felix is a guy. He's like 57. That's insane. I think. He's my age. Yeah.

But still on certain events, you know, his grip is very good. There's different things. So he's still competing at 57. He's still he competed this year. That's that original O-man strength. Oh my God. Oh, you didn't say he's black though. That's Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no is he? He's, I would say six, three, six, four, maybe something like that. And still doing the damn. He looks younger than all this. He's gripping certain events for grip. He's very good. Wow. Oh, lordy. Oh, lordy, lord. So he, I mean, you could keep the thing is like, you could do it to your six. I could, this is, here's the problem man for me is, is I'm not interested in just going. Right. Right.

I'm not. I'm not. That's not good enough for me. You got to be the best. Right. So if I just wanted to go, I could continue to go for sure. Like that wouldn't be, it wouldn't be, it's not, this is going to sound crazy. It's not that hard for me.

Right. Like, you're born to do it. To be at that level of straight. It's not hard. That's what you do. Yeah. So I could, a hundred% could continue to go now. I'm not, I'm not going to a contest is take out space.

Hell no. I'm going to win. Yeah. And that's the way that I do it. So for me, that's what makes sense. And I wanted to go out when I was still knocking on the door when I was still super competitive, capable of winning. That's, that's what I want to do.

You hope your, uh, cause you have two boys. Do you hope your boys fall in your footsteps? Like, would you want that for them? Like people ask me, like, would you want your kid to fight? Like, fuck no. Yeah. It's too hard. Your, your kids, like your kids are very big, very strong and athletic.

Yeah. All right. But would you want that for your son? I want, I want them to pick something that they're interested in and try to be the best and run with it Yep, same. That's what I don't care what is so far. Yeah. Yeah Except for soccer intense. Yeah We'll just throw those in yeah, no the guy that's what I truly truly what I want for him I want me to keep some out of trouble. I don't care what it is. Yeah, but run with it try and be the best

Yeah, are you gonna make it not, but at least you stay focused. Get into drugs. Yeah, go for it. Well, I think the main thing is just learning how to learn. Like, that's what I love about sports. You get good at one thing. You can apply that process of learning mindset to everything. Yeah. You know, I mean, that's, that's what it is. Yeah. And that's, and that's, that's what I, I want to learn too, right? So it's, this is, I've got a lot of outlets. That's a nice part, I think. Yeah. Overall. So whether, whether it's content or, you know, running the businesses. So it's undefined nutrition, evolution, athletics, and then just Shaw strength. And we do all of the shipping we've handled all that.

Yeah, yeah. He's got a huge warehouse. I'm aware. So it's been good. And then obviously like the Shaw Classic weekend and strongest man in the world. Do you see it in your, to go back to your kids, do you see it in your kids? Like, do you see these are, cause after you have this God given talent, have you seen it?

You're hoping, right? You're like, oh, come on, dude. Yeah. You can't let that milk. All right. Here's, you can't let that. Okay. Yeah. You leave shit around. Yeah. I mean, just have a line. I have 30 pound kettlebell.

Can you bring up that 12 pack? Sure. around. Yeah. You just have to line up your 30-pound kettlebell. Can you bring up that 12-pack? Sure, sure. Three. I mean, I think they've both done things that I was impressed by. Yeah. Because I'm just in the gym, right? So I had a, like, well, now he's seven, but I think he was six. Like, we had a hundred-pound dumbbell.

And it was just sitting there. And I didn't, it's not, none of what I'm doing with them is, is prompted, right? Like, I really want them to be creative when they go in there with me. So though, and they're great. They'll set up a little obstacle course and take a medicine ball and load it and carry it. And you can see that they've watched it. Cause they're like, okay, I'm going to set up this loading medley and I'm going to load all this stuff and

I'm going to jump over this and then do like whatever but he He picked up a hundred pound dumbbell like grabbed it with both hands like just picked it up What at seven say I think it was six. It's insane. Yeah. It was crazy Truly yeah, like you let the hundred pounds at seven a hundred pound dumbbell That's just between it but it was it was it was do something. I was shocked. That might have like that was kind of like the shocked that's that is BamBam. Are they aware that you're the strongest man in the world? Do they know or no?

I think they got a flex on a little bit. They have, I think they have a concept of it. I don't think they fully know because it's what they see. Yeah. It's just that like I, I've talked to people about this too. I think it's just the,. That's always been bigger and stronger than everyone else. Yeah, it's just going to be skewed, right? Like for them, because they've always come in the gym with me, they seem to move the type of weights that I move, but it's normal.

That's yeah. So they're going to be just strong. The kid weight lifted 100 pounds. How much does he weigh? He was probably, well, I mean, that point, maybe 60, 70 pounds. I don't know. Exactly where. Astonishing. How old is he now? Seven. That's astonishing. Yeah. Well, I mean that point 70 maybe 60 70 pounds. I don't know exactly where it's not how does he know seven

That's astonishing. Yeah, but it's not a bigger kid. Yeah bigger I think our younger one is the one I would say that's got the competitive That's how it goes like he's he's competitive and he's more like me like I was like that because I had an older brother The same thing. Yeah, and it was always like a trying to keep up with your brother giant or no. No, I mean six, three, probably like so, you know, but yeah, not like super. Ain't that a bitch? But yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm dense. Are you? Yeah. Are you? So what I am. Are you?

Yeah. So I keep myself the way I work out is to keep myself purposely dense, but not as big. You don't see the. So what I work out I'm talking about you. Yeah, so I keep myself, the way I work out is to keep myself purposely dense but not as big. You don't see the, here's the thing. I work out for strength, not size. I'm not interested in building up. I know, but that's stupid. The way that you're answering that shows me like it's insecurity.

No, no, no, because like Bruce Lee, so it's very tight, so I'm very tight and I'll show you later. You keep it tight. But I keep it, yeah, I keep it dense and that's how I work out. Were your parents, I would assume your parents were super supportive all the way? They were, yeah, they didn't keep it. Yeah, I keep it dense. That's how I work out. Were your parents, I would assume your parents were super supportive all the way.

They were. Yeah, they didn't understand it. Like, and there was no money back then. So like, you're doing what? You have a college degree. See, this is the, this is the interesting part of it, right? Is getting into it. I was told, well, number one, I'm told like, okay, you're not going to be able to do that. Number two, there's no money in it. So you're, you're pursuing this and, and. Don't see it on a live, right?

Yeah. Driven to. And I just, I said, I'm going to figure it out. Right. Like there's a way to do it. I can figure it out and we can do it. And it's. Opening different doors along the path.

And it worked. Right. But it was like something that, uh, everybody didn't necessarily see. Yes. And that was okay. But I'm going out and that's didn't necessarily see. Yes. And that was okay, but I'm going out and that's what it takes. Training by myself and you know, I have this vision of what I'm trying to do. And it's, to me, it makes sense, right?

And I love the grind and the sacrifice and everything that goes along with it. So for me, I was having fun too, doing it, but I was sacrificing to get somewhere. Yes. Right. So this is, this is the interesting part of it because early on, you know, especially younger twenties, right? You're having buddies that are going out and whatever it is.

There's no, no, no. For me, it's like I'm, I'm going to eat and sleep and train and I wanted to do that. And it'll, it'll pay off. it'll pay off and it did, right? But it was a sacrifice that I had to make at that point that was difficult. And I was willing to make that sacrifice. It was all right. I just think like, every time I talk to successful people,

it's just a mindset that you apply to every new situation. It really fucking is. There's genetics, you know, I'm gonna give a fuck what mindset you have. No, I'm saying just mindset in general being a winner. If you don't have these genetics, it every new situation. It's a really fucking it. It's like, there's genetics. You're gonna give a fuck what mindset. No, I'm saying just mindset in general. If you don't have these genetics, it ain't happening. Well, not with lifting. No, like if you were like, I'm gonna be a strongman.

What do you mean? Hey, it's not for you. Dude, I know. Like there's nothing we can do. That is like, if I'm your dad, I'd go, no, there's nothing we can do. Well, there's guys like Brian Shaw out there and you're not, you're not him. And I'm not him. No, it's not him. And I'm your dad, I'd go, no, there's nothing we can do. Because there's guys like Brian Shaw out there and you're not him.

And I'm not him. No, it's not him. And I'm not him. Sometimes you need parents like that to go, no. Yeah. So he would say, you stick to high kicks and having Viper quick striking. Sure.

If that gets you and not to cry. You stick to having a lion's heart and insane creativity. That's what he would say. Sure. Right? Yeah, that works. You fuck. Yeah, if that gets you.

You know what? You look skinny to me right now and I swear to God. But that's what he would say. Sure. Right? You fuck. You know what, you look skinny to me right now and I swear to God. I don't do it, but that's a compliment. No, I know, but now I'm looking at him. Because I'm usually the biggest guy in the room. I know. And I've been rolling and I fucking will jump on you

right now, I don't give a shit. You're talking about the bullshit rolling, doing Newport or whatever? Don't call bullshit rolling because I roll. A little half ass rolling? Don't call half ass rolling either, it's gonna make me mad. The young kid's going easier. Dude, I'm fucking stretched too.

I really am. And I'm wearing athletic clothing. And if you want to fucking go in front of Brian, we'll do it, but I don't want to do that right now because we're podcasting. Don't make me fuck you up in front of your giant friend. I don't want it. We're having a nice time.

Listen, kids. I will fuck you up in front of the strongest man. Kids, try to calm down, please. Yeah, I will fuck you up in front of the world's strongest man, just to prove a point. By the way, I've never, my wife gets so mad because I just didn't think, did I go, I have to talk to Brian, I go,

I have to talk to Brian Shaw, strongest man in the world. I say it all the time, I gotta go. I had Brian Shaw as a friend of mine, Brian Shaw is a four times strongest man in the world. He's calling me. Of course he is. She's like, stop saying that, I fucking know who he is. It's not gonna be, you don't have another friend

named Brian Shaw. That's all right, it's all right. It's all right, you like people who have a friend named Brian Shaw. That's right. You're sorry. It's all right. Not to people who are friends, who's the strongest in the world. It is fun to have the strongest man friend in the world. Who's the strongest man? He's the strongest man. No, he's my friend. He's my friend. He's the strongest man in the world.

I'm never gonna not. What a wild, what a wild title. It is. If I'm gonna invite you anywhere, it's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, if I'm gonna bring Brian Shaw, four times strongest man in the world here to the party, I'm not gonna just say Brian Shaw. You're gonna introduce that way. Because then you're gonna show up like, hello, and they're gonna go, what the fuck is this?

Like the Kool-Aid man. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, kick in the wall. Well, hello, my wife, literally, because I wanted you to stay with us. Yeah. Am I right? We were talking about this.

You gotta quit inviting grown men to stay the night. But I have a lot of room. When you look like that, the whole thing's creepy. It's creepy, but you know, and I am creepy. But the thing is this, I wanted to take our friendship to the next level. Like, you know, in the middle of the night, you want a glass of a wholeful tea?

But you know, the bed that we have, the fucking bed that we have, she goes, I don't think, I don't want him to get in that bed, it might not. Yeah, do you have a special bed? Like Shack? All right, so here's what we did with the bed situation, want him to get in that bed, it might not. Yeah. Do you have a special bed? Like Shaq. All right. So here's, here's what we did with the bed situation because my wife isn't big at

all. Right. So I always like the, the requirements of the bed for me are different than her. Yeah. Very simply put, right? So we, we tried to get a, uh, like a split California king. So I could adjust my side and she could do hers and you know that sleep numbers I go down but just you put it softer harder

And it's got like all the you know special heating and cooling all that you need all that stuff heat. Yes. Yes, okay Are you gonna let me tell the story? I'm trying to answer the question. Please. Thank you. Yeah, okay. Go ahead. You always interject I'm just asking questions go. I thought you'd be better. All right, please. I apologize. Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead. You always interject at the wrong moment. I'm just asking questions. Go. I thought you'd be better. All right, Brian. What bed do you use?

So let me guess. Helix sleep mattress standard. Here's what we did. Here's what we did. Is that was not big enough. The split California king. So the California king is longer not as wide. Right.

And I was so angry because I couldn't fit on the side. I said it didn't work, right? Because I couldn't move at all. Because I'm just like this, and that's as wide as a bed. You're too big for the last thing. So I said, all right. I went to the store, and I said, look, here's what I want to do. I want to get two queens and just put them side by side, right?

And then my wife can be super happy with hers and I can have mine in there. It's like a bigger split California king. And so that's what we know. That works, yeah. And then for like cars, you're good, you know, you're so big. So like the car, you have to fly first class and you have to fly.

It's gotta be a certain. So I was, I was super disappointed with the plane today. You were? Yeah. Really disappointed. Because they changed up the seats in, in first class. Yes, I need that. And they've built up this nonsense. Oh, the, oh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and all can find out Lizzo feels. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I was so frustrated. And yeah. And then cars you're fine. Do you have to have special seats?

So here's the exciting part, right? So I'm out here in California because I got in an excursion. Right. So 2002 Ford excursion. I'm very excited about this. Right. Wait, you rented one? You bought one? No, I bought one. 2002, 2022.

No, no, they don't make it. They only made it. Excursion. They stopped in 2005. Do you know how you drive like a Tesla? This is the exact opposite. So there's like the Hummer, then there's the Excursion. It's like four miles a gallon.

It's the biggest production SUV. They're so dope. Especially you lift them, they're dope. So I got it, and I was like, Hey, I'm going to fix this thing up. Whatever. So, uh, banks power reached out and they were like, Hey, we heard you want to fix this thing up, whatever. So our, our shop is here in California.

Oh sick. So we are, we're going to pick it up, bring it here and we want to fix it up and do some videos with stuff. So I was like, man, that's great. Oh man, let me know what you're doing. I'd love to come by. and do some videos. Oh, dope. So I was like, man, that's great. Oh, man, let me know what you're doing. I'd love to come by. That'd be cool. Yeah.

So they, uh, um, so I'm meeting them out here in a, in a couple days. Oh, cool. So yeah. So the Ford excursion, you're big enough to, that's so excited, man, because it's open. They don't have all the, you know, you want to fit in the Hummer. You want to, the Hummer won't work. Have you tried fit one?

So they're tough for me. So truth, truth be told, I wanted a Hummer. Right. So they came out when I was in college and I was like, I want to buy one of those. So I got to the point where I could buy one. You want like the H1 or H2? So I wanted, well, I wanted the, I like an H1.

They're too small as well. But H2, because that was like, all right, in college, this is the truck, whatever. For sure. So I got to whatever year that was where I could buy one. They had stopped, I think they had just stopped making them, maybe. And I went, and I was like, this is the, you know, truck, whatever. For sure. So I got to whatever, whatever year that was where I could buy one. They had stopped, I think they had just stopped making them maybe. And I went and I was like, all right, I'm going to go get this. And I found one that was like, you know, used, but had really low miles, whatever.

Yeah. And I went to test drive it, got into it, tried to put it in reverse. And the knob deal sticks out and you have to push it in. Yeah. Couldn't get it past my leg. Oh, God. Couldn't get it back. I was so pissed. And then exiled like, more cars are just, to push it in. Yeah. Couldn't get it past my leg. Oh, God. Couldn't even back it. I was so pissed.

And then exotic. Sport cars are just, it's not even. No. It's not happening. You're not getting in a sports car. No. Maybe a Ferrari. I did drive a Ferrari.

It was questionable. Yeah. Very questionable. Like, wrecking route. Like, whether it was safe or not, I don't know. But the Hummer thing was so disappointing, because I was like, that was, I was pumped about that. I wonder if the Tesla truck, the new Tesla truck.

He doesn't like gay stuff, right? But bring up the new Tesla truck because that thing is bad aspirant. But they're not big. And they rust. They rust. They rust? Yeah, they have problems rusting right now, yeah.

That's a big truck right there. That's a man's truck. I don't know what you're doing. I don't think so, dude. The cabin doesn't look big. It may, I don't think the cabin's big enough for you, buddy Yeah, it's good. He has an excursion. So anyways that the excursion I'll let you ride in it. You'll see yeah, it's massive Yeah, it's absolutely massive. I found I found one that was like a One they tricked it out. Well, no there so the engine. Yes, everything performance parts

They send me a picture of the palette of stuff. They're putting into it. I was like, so it's a 7.3 liter Turbo diesel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which is like An amazing engine. Yeah, one of the best of all time. It's crazy. So yeah, so I'm very excited So it was a one owner. Let's me say that I found that has little miles and I was like, this is like a unicorn So so they're been it while you're out here then it will you drive it back or the ship it back? Let's me say that I found that has little miles and I was like this is like a unicorn so So they're been a while you're out here, then I will you drive it back or the ship it back? They're gonna ship it back. Yeah, so we'll do everything at the shop and ship it back, but I'm I'm really excited. Hell. Yeah That's me have to work on your body It's a bummer. You can't get into a fucking Porsche or something

I don't you could cuz like this bath well there's such a In here like your your issues your wide and tall yeah, cuz usually like Shaq has for our is the Lamborghinis He does but it's easier than you are probably Shaq, isn't he he's 400 pounds well 72 but 400 something pound 450 or something like that, but he gets the Is he that heavy you look at my piece so big he's lost weight now Fucking dwarfs you but he gets well He's taller than me look at you just waiting to say that he gets fried and then he has to cut to make this I don't think his body is that strong right me. He's just he dwarfs you dude. I saw him at the Olympia Yeah, he's way bigger than you. It's awesome. We I said hi. We had a good time, you know, yeah quick interaction

Yeah, he knew you were yeah. Yeah. It was it was it was awesome. By the way, though, there he is. That you could fit in there, dude. Because a lot of it doesn't work. A lot of it. I'm sure that. Yeah. That's his.

What is that? Uh, is a Lambo Lambo. Yeah. Lambo. No way. Not a. I tried to. No, I can't buy a Lambo.

Yeah. Yeah. The ventador is a little bigger, but the the because you understand because you would have problems to a certain card like McLaren's just it's not for me Yeah, it's a bummer, but it's not for me. Is that it's not a real picture. That's that trick down It's pretty real. I might be real here. What he's so big. So yeah, so I think that's in his good I'm possibly large you ever see you've seen him in person. It's just like man head is the size of a basketball legitimately I mean, I don't know about that but his head I mean he's a large human don't think

Brian's head's bigger it hurts you like I did say this but he's bigger than you he's he's a lot taller than me he's not stronger yeah body body weight wise I don't know if we're talking just as wide as your big name is the diesel that's kind of cool. It is cool. Well, what's your nickname? So, I mean, I never really went by a nickname that hard. No one gave you one, like, as you were coming up.

So, I got one early on, it was Gigantor. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. Yeah. Did the basketball team show up with that? Gigantor. Yeah, like that.

So, I was, this is what I was at ASU a long time ago, right? And that's what all the players, everybody. That's the dork on the team. Yeah. Fucking come up with something new. Gigantor was mountain taken. Easy, bro. Sorry, bro.

You're going a little bit too hard. I apologize. So they didn't, nobody knew my name down there, right? And so I finally got to the point where I was gonna have an office and they put, they put my name on the office, Brian Shaw, and I was standing with like two of the players and they were there when they're putting the sign up and they're like, who's Brian Shaw? Like, what is this guy?

You're talking about Gigantor? Yeah, yeah. No, it literally, it was nickname only then. But I never really went, I never really went by that in Strongman. It was just, yeah. Yeah. So I didn't really have one that was a card good role are you gonna do current events you got a role yeah you get that I got the as I got everything all right all right you guys

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products on at fieldcraftsurvival.com Strength is an interesting one because you can't necessarily always judge it off of bigger Yeah, because I've also would like with that dumbbell is saying about the UFC expo There was big guys and you think oh my gosh your hands big your big guy. You're gonna lift it No, no, sometimes it's somebody unassuming can do it That's shocking. They're like there's no way you could do that and they just you know Maybe have worked with their hands or they're easy That's right. Have a natural some guys that worked with their hands But there's also like the idea some when you can jump really high sometimes you can you can squat a lot or deadlift a lot

I can't remember what it was but like fast twitch muscle is a. Like there are guys who can fast and slow twitch for sure. Yeah. Is it both? I don't know. Yeah. This is, this is, uh, it's fascinating when it comes to strength. Yeah. Right.

Like, like if you were to actually do a, um, biopsy of muscle tissue on somebody to see what, and I'm sure that they have done it on different Olympic athletes and that type of thing to see, you know, what, what have to be, what makes you say in bolt that much faster? There's something going on? I would, 100%, well, he's genetically gifted, right, to do that. So you cannot, you're either born faster or you're not, it's not like you can get faster, but you're not going to be, you can see that some people just genetically have that fast, which structure, body type and everything else, you you're not gonna be able to work at getting faster like you can get a little faster but you're never gonna be like you

know you either have it or you don't well to get to that level for sure that's just the way it is next level yeah you're not gonna you're not playing cornerback are we rolling we're rolling yeah because this is good now it's finally finally you and I dude yeah, finally you and I just have a chair comfy. It's a little bit tight little tight on you. Yeah, not yeah No, no, it's not for me, but you know, I see you wiggling back and forth I'm basically just I understand we don't have to have a competition about it Do we know because it's fine, you know, I mean we don't have a competition We've already say that because you're losing. No, we've already established that I'm sneaky athletic.

I think you agreed to that. You also talked about my tailpiece. Yeah. Next time I come, if you could have just a slightly larger chair. Well, we'll see if we can do it. I'll give you a whole couch, but now you're in, now you're in the hot seat. Hot seat. Let's do some, let's do some current events right now.

Let's see what's what. Cause we have a lot to do today. I, we, I, we gotta get out of here soon because we have to drive down to the trampoline thing I don't know why did you bring that pillow just for me? Yes, that's literally for you Strong man, Brian. Yeah, what we don't think the trampoline thing is gonna happen anymore. Okay, there. It's an hour half away It's an hour away probably if we get there he's doing it right now and a half and what time is it now? way probably if we'd get there he's doing it right now and a half and what time is it now can you see if they can push yet see if they can push till four yeah because we'll eat something it's fine and then what we'll do is we have

dance tomorrow anyway if we can make it yeah just we're gonna do a hip-hop tomorrow anyway yeah I said hip-hop hip- hip, hip hop. Yeah. Have you ever danced? Have I ever danced? Yeah. The answer is no, isn't it? Yes, I have. Yeah. I have.

Now, here's my other question. You consider yourself. Have I danced good is a different question. Okay, that's that. I thank you. Have I had fun with dancing? Yes, I have. Okay.

That's good. Okay. Yeah. All right. So I can have fun and then not be judged on how I did. No, and you're very strong, but please understand that when it comes to athleticism, that's a different thing, right?

Athleticism and being a dancer is different. We know that, right? So if we were dancers together, you would be the little one that would be thrown in the air. That's what would happen. Nobody throws me in a fight. I'm not doing a dance thing where I get thrown in the air.

I'm not doing that shit. What if it happens? We're not in circus, this whole thing. I know, but what, what if it happens? What are you gonna do? I am not interested in doing that kind of dance. Okay. What I'm saying is that if we were in a dance together, you would be sitting at my feet

asking me how I move that way. I know, but listen, you don't have to be interested in not. It would just happen. Cause if you're not, if you're not strong enough and big enough to stop, take the option away, right? Then it's a problem. You might just decide to take me and maybe I'll get excited. I don't know. And I sometimes, oh, there goes Brian.

Sometimes I look like a circus baton with hair. Is that what you're trying to say? I mean, yeah, but not a lot of hair. So it's okay. We could put a wig on you or something so it flows while you're flying. We're in a fucking wig, dude. We're in a fucking wig.

I mean, am I- Am I your fucking, your wig toss? Bro, unbelievable. I just said, you are unbelievable, yes. No, dude. But if you're going in there, you're going in the air, you know? Listen to me right now.

I wish I was just a little bigger because then I'd be your training partner. That's the story of your life. Because I would work your body. Wish I was a little bigger. Because I saw you here when you were punching. I have to be honest with you. All I see is possibilities. Is that right?

Well, I just see this whole area is just, it's just, that's so open for me. Open? Right? For crazy leg, for my crazy roundhouse, for my teeps, for my hooks. I'm not saying, but I'm just saying. I mean, maybe, maybe if you're a little bit bigger. Yeah, I would need to be a little bit bigger.

I'd have to, I'd have to start taking my lifting more seriously. Start to become a common theme there. Yeah. Good. Speaking of fighting, can I see this now? Yeah, so This was interesting Ryan Garcia who's fighting next month for the super lightweight

Championship has been posting weird stuff all over the Internet. He claims he's done now But this morning at 706 he posted Elon Musk is the anti-Christ. Huh. And he came out and said like he's okay and he's healthy but. This worries me because I feel like this is head trauma. Yeah right. It's not just drugs unless it's like mushrooms you know I don't know is he micro dosing. So he also mentioned comment.

He was on like Twitter spaces, which I think is like a, like a meetup area, whatever to talk to different people. And then he was also with on with Andrew Tate and he said that he was raped as a kid. So maybe he is on drugs and maybe it's all, all this stuff is like coming back to him right now, like flashbacks and he's going crazy. I don't know. I get very worried and bummed out on an older man now and I see young men like this.

So my whole thing is to say, you know, I hope I'm wrong and I really pray I'm wrong, but sometimes schizophrenia can hit men in their 20s and 30s and it hits men mostly. And you see this kind of thing and you go, what's going on here? You've taken a lot of strikes to the head. And these guys bang, you know?

And then if you're combining that with drugs and stuff, I hope this is sort of a drug-induced psychosis that can go away. But sometimes this can be schizophrenia. And I fucking hope I'm wrong. Yeah, he's like predicting earthquakes. That's my doctors. That's my.

Yeah. Yeah. You see how serious I got? I got all heavy. You did. You did get serious in the tone of your voice changed. Yeah. What was happening?

It gets a little deeper. Yeah. Uh huh. That's, uh, it's an interesting take. Yeah. Very interesting comments as well. Yeah. What's your, what's your take on this?

You don't know. Elon Musk is the anti-Christ. Yeah. Very interesting comments as well. Yeah. What's your take on this? You don't know. Elon Musk is the anti-Christ. Yeah. He also is like posting predicting LA's about to have an earthquake, posting and speaking in tongues saying, don't worry the people that need to know what I'm saying. Very interesting. Yeah. And he's got to fight next to him.

That really does worry me. That is... It's a little bit more than, than an average weird comment. It is. Or do we think it's a stunt? He has a fight coming up. I don't think it's a stunt. It doesn't feel like a stunt. The movements.

This is, it looks like a little, like when I first saw it, I was like, he's doing below. Something's going on, right? But with below, you don't talk like that, right? No, no. Yeah. No, but if you mix it with mushrooms below something's going on, right? But with below you don't talk like that. No, no. Yeah. No, but if you mix it with mushrooms out there, man. Yeah.

I don't know. You ever done you ever done mushrooms? I have not. No, you've never done them. No, you could eat two shoes. Good eat two shoes. Well, you mean you never microdosed or any of that? No, I have not.

Just asking questions. Have you? Yeah, I've done some mushrooms. Oh, okay. I just want to see what it was like. Now, I did too many mushrooms, so I don't do them anymore. Did you, were you saying stuff like that? I went to a dimension of hell.

I went to, I was inside Mother Earth's vagina, and then I did four more grams, and I went to hell. I was literally looking for a manager. I was like, I need to speak to a manager. I don't belong here. And I didn't learn anything. I've done DMT. I'm too old to have anything open up. I just go, oh, I'm not going to do that anymore.

I've never been a drug guy. That's an interesting journey that you went on there. Yes. I have you ever done weed? Are you a weed guy or? I'm not. No, I'm not either. I'm not.

Are you, how about booze? Did you like to drink? No, never. Never have been. Well, I mean, of course in college you do, but I mean, it's, it's the thing, the thing with that is I just felt like altered state. No. And also, I mean, for me, maybe this is just what I get so hyper focused on

something that if, if I, if I did that, I would feel like garbage and then it would affect everything performance wise for me. And I just didn't like it. You can't do that. When you're training at that level, you can't be drinking and then it would affect everything performance wise for me and I just didn't like it. You can't do that. When you're training at that level, you can't be drinking and then, you know, say you're not going to win, you know. So I mean, that was, it was probably just a focus thing.

Not that I didn't have fun a few times, but whatever, you know. Yeah, but I agree with you. It's like, I never had fun getting drunk. I never felt good. I don't like being out of control. Also, I think that when you're a person that's happy, right, and you can have fun in any situation, you don't necessarily need it, but if you're somebody that's really held back

and confined in this type of thing, it's like, oh, I have to be drunk to talk to somebody or to have fun or to open up or whatever. Right. And I don't think, I mean, I don't get that sense from you. It's not. But what I'm fascinated with you is that, like, one of the things that, that being able to

win for so long and compete for so long, I don't know, I don't think anybody can get to that level without almost being so the lifestyle is just one of total discipline across the board. And you are. I mean, that's what I was saying about like the fact that you have this like I go you have this warehouse with all this merch and all this. It's like it makes sense because you carry it through with everything because anytime you don't do what you said you're going to do is a defeat and that's going to creep into your head when you compete. Would you say that's like the, is that the competitors mindset? Well, I think, I think you're hitting the nail on the head because it's everything. It's everything.

And it's, it's just, it's just the approach. That's the approach that you take. Yeah. Is to do it the best that you can do it. And if you don't, then absolutely yes. If you walk out of a competitive setting saying that you could have done something more to win, that's a haunting feeling, right? It's a regret that you don't want to have, right? So, you know, if you walk into anything and say, I did the best that I could do, I gave

it everything I possibly could, There's nothing more there. That's a better way to go. Now, I think any top competitor will always think they could have done just a touch more. Always. Right, but that's just competitive nature. It's awesome. It's awesome life.

Yeah. You did anything you do. I didn't get it quite right. You can do, that's acting that's that's fucking you know Anytime you're doing 50 takes you're like, you know, you need 50 takes normally. No, I'm so spontaneous and talented. Are you yeah? Well, then why did you say 50 takes? I certainly don't that's Robertson there. He needed a lot of things any All right, I don't I have a feeling that wasn't true. Moving on. I'm going to call, I'm going to call false information. I'm going to call full shit on that.

He actually, he actually was known to do a shit load of takes and he would drive Martin Scorsese crazy because he would literally do 50 takes for real and Scorsese would almost always use the first and second take because it was just the most spontaneous for real. Sure. Cause then it was too. Yeah. It was too. Well, you know, he was obsessed with the believability of it.

He had to believe it. He wanted you to believe it. He wanted to make sure what you were saying he believed is that whole, it's almost like this thing with, yeah. Yeah, I don't believe a lot of stuff that you say, but. Well, that's because you don't, oh, what's this? So, Charles Barkley came out Monday night on CNN talking to Gale King saying quote

I will punch any black person in the face who's wearing a Trump mugshot shirt because Trump came out and said like Black people love me now because I have street cred and they wear my shirt with a mugshot on it And he means it if we play the video I'm so sorry. If I see a black person walking around with Trump moats, I'm gonna punch him in the face. I don't Really can't say that because a you don't mean that. Oh, I mean that sincerely You will be arrested for assault and then what I'm gonna be And you will be arrested for assault and then what?

What do you boys think It's America, you know everybody has an opinion. I I worked with Charles. I know him. He's great and funny and and Usually a voice of reason. He's not like some far-left liberal or any of that He's like a he's an American who's just as critical of a lot of the bullshit out there as I am. I think probably he was probably reacting to the fact that politicians might be talking down to black people. Like black people like me. It's like the black people are just as all over the place in their opinions as our white people. You go to a barbershop, a black barbershop. You black barbershop, you're gonna have 50 different opinions,

just like you wouldn't a white barbershop. So I think what a lot of black people bristle at is the idea of saying, well, the black vote, the fuck are you talking about the black vote? Black people are conservative as fuck in a lot of cases. So. It's just, I think the disappointing part is,

is the division from that, right? Because he's saying, again, and thankfully she's correcting him, right? Like he's being prosecuted for crimes. It's okay. Well, again, it hasn't been proven to my knowledge, right? So it's an accusation that's not been proven. Yes. Right? And I think that's where a lot of this stuff gets out there that's not true. Right. Right. And so it's like, well, this is true. And, you know, again, who knows what Trump is a lot. A lot of times I think the problem is is you get snippets of what he has said that's that have been pulled out of They take they take him out of country. Yeah. And that's what they want to do is they want to paint him as this bad guy. I've never heard them play the whole thing where he says, March on the Capitol peacefully.

They never, they leave that part out. Never. And, and again, that's, that's what, that's what happens. And then, then it's, well, what happened here. And, and, um, I think a lot of it naturally comes out. It just doesn't come out quick enough. Right. And, and I think that that's, that's a disappointing part, but. I just don't like the division, man.

I think that that's what bothers me because I personally have not seen it, right? With people when you go out and you talk, well, you were saying something really interesting. You posted a picture with Jordan Peterson. Correct. And, and like one of my heroes. And then all of a sudden you get like a whole bunch of comments saying, I can't

believe you would do this. But then you go to those comments. I think that shit's fake. Yeah. I think there are so many bots. There are people, there's probably three scumbags who just have an ability to pretend that they're 50 people. Sure.

And it's all bullshit, man. Wait, it, no, it is. And that's, that's exactly it though. Like you, you, I think it's important in society to be able to have conversations with people that might disagree with your viewpoint. Yeah, yeah. And that's like when the conversation comes.

You know why? Because it gets you to change your mind or at least, or it gets you to kind of have, have to mount the defense and test the ground on what you're standing. For sure. That's the idea behind free speech. Yeah.

And I think that, I think that again, it's, it's, I hate the division, man. It's, it's, it's like, if you look at, at the world, and I've heard this about ants, right? So if you were to put red ants and black ants in a jar, they would coexist just fine until you start shaking the jar. Oh.

And then they attack each other. Interesting. Right? But if you look at the jar. Oh, and then they attack each other. Interesting. Right. But if you look at the world, right, as the jar, you've got all these different ants that are living, they, they could, would be fine until you start shaking the jar. Right. And now it's like, well, I have to hate you or I have to dislike you when naturally

that wouldn't happen. Interesting. It wouldn't happen. And I think that's very true with people. I think that's true with social media. I think that there are bad actors out there. That's during the jar because then you could chop it up however you want. Right. You know, I can post a picture with Jordan Peterson who's, I think, an amazing individual. I think he's doing a lot of good for society and for our world right

now. And he's also articulating the things we feel, but we can't, we can't, we don't know how to describe it. It was wonderful. I mean, I got to sit down and have a great conversation with him and, uh, it was wonderful, man. And I post this picture and then it's those things come. But I also think that there's, you know, maybe a lot of powers that be that disagree with some of the viewpoints that he has and what he's putting out. And he has a large audience that he's putting them out to, right?

So naturally me putting a picture of us together might add a little bit of fire to that for him or, or whatever. And, and so you have that negative opinion that comes with that, mainly directed at me, which I, I even said to you, I put the picture up. I didn't look at it because I was very busy and I made the post and then you come back later and then it's this, you know, going back and forth. Anybody who has a, anybody who posts that, I don't even think they're real, but even if they're real, they're, they're non-entities. It doesn't matter. But even, even if, right, let's just say they, they are a real person

But even even if right, let's just say they are a real person and they do exist and they are posting that Why am I not entitled to my opinion and putting a picture up of somebody? Yeah, right look a hundred percent Yeah, I but Henry say that go medalist in the Olympics a two division belt holder Daniel Cormier two-time Olympian two division belt holder They get shit people people criticize them. They get the people, I posted a video, I was like, you people, the fact that they get criticism, they get, there's fighters. They like that. And I'm like, well, first of all,

the internet's not real if that's the case. Second of all, and this is why most people have no idea how hard it is to be them, to be you. It's so hard, like you're really big and strong, but to be able to compete for that long and win, it's so hard. It takes, well, it takes all of you and it takes all of you consistently.

It's like, you can't fuck off. You fuck off, there's another dude right at your house. Living that life for 20 years is what I always look at when I see that. Like it takes all of you. It's just so hard to be a success. It just fucking is.

Cause you're failing constantly. Well, the reality is that you're putting yourself out there and failure is at every turn. Every turn, right? Yeah. And that performance level needs to stay there but yeah it's it's it's crazy man I just don't think that that a lot of you know social media and clipping things up you can you can really

make somebody sound however you want to make them sound by clipping something up and putting out there I think that that's really and truly what has happened you know a lot with Trump and you know it's I think that that's really and truly what has happened a lot with Trump. And, you know, it's, I think that, um, you know, he sometimes presents a, a different viewpoint that is logical, but maybe he doesn't have the best delivery. Right. He doesn't deliver. I think a lot of people like his policies. They don't like him.

Yeah. You know, well, he's abrasive. He can be abrasive as a person, right? But, again, like, if you look at, um, you know, well, he's abrasive. He can be abrasive as a person, right? But arrogant again like if you look at You know somebody as a leader Would you would you rather have a leader that's a little bit abrasive and gets a job done or somebody that never Steps on anybody's toes and this is doesn't do anything You know, somebody somebody's talking about Biden

I was with these guys who like high up dudes like you know players in the game Right business and politics. This was last night and power dinner. Don't worry about it and they were Power dinner. Yeah power dinner. I have power dinners and got a power fuck. I have power dinners I do a lot of stuff, but but like literally like just like sometimes you're at a table and it's like everybody there flies privately and you know It's like like there's billion dollar people, but they were talking about how Biden The big secret is that they're his chief of staff So so Biden Biden is they say he's hijacked by the far left Biden's always been fairly moderate as the legislator and he hasn't passed anything. He'll he'll he'll he'll say yeah

I'm gonna do that, but when it comes to actually passing on laws he doesn't do it So he's good at that but his chief of staff is the same way and they were like talking about how his chief of staff is basically Republican light Democrat heavy kind of in the middle and they all know it but really competent And even though Biden is cognitively not there. Yeah, he's just declining They all know that. And the guy running the country is his chief of staff. I thought that was really interesting. I was like, oh, shit, you know.

Well, I think that's very apparent. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's sad, man. But I think, you know, around the world, and I've been fortunate enough to throughout the years, right, like talk to different guys from different countries and get a viewpoint from outside of America on America. Yeah, and that's interesting. It's very interesting. A lot of people have not

Heard that right and it's it's you know, they You know for the world to be in a good place it very much helps when America has a leader that's strong and feared Yeah, that's right. Right? Like you can't be a leader without having some element of fear. Respect. Respect and fear. Right?

Like you have to be capable of doing what you say. Yeah. Right? And people need to know that. And I think that's an important element. I think Trump was good at getting people leaders like Kim Jong-un and Putin. He was good at getting them to think he might be unhinged enough to do something crazy. Sure.

Like, you know, like there's something to that. Like I'm crazy like a fox. Like, you know, I don't know karate, but I know crazy. That there's something about that that I'm telling you that Kim Jong-un was like, you know, this guy might fucking he might just bring the heat. Sure. And so I got to I'm going to bring him to my, you know, this guy might fucking, he might just bring the heat. And so I got, I'm going to bring him to my, you know, he's that that's how he deals. Cause that's how that's the language he understands.

But nothing happened in the world. But again, there's that, but the, Yeah, yeah, I'm going to get you the promise is don't fuck with me. Yeah. Right.

Cause that Taliban leader that he said, he said he gave him his, he gave him a picture of his house. It goes, it's your house, I know your house and it's fine. Yeah. It's fine. And just as long as you understand that I have a picture of your house, I know you are and it's all good. Sure. But

there's, there's the, there's the action, right? There's action could come. And again, I think that's, that's important. And, and, you know you know, it's just like being a man that is incapable of any type of violence, right? Like now, are you really a man? Right. Like I think any man should be capable of that

if they need to be. If they need to be protective, if they need to be assertive, they need to be able to execute that. That's why I work on my low kicks. What's that? That's why I work on my low kicks.

Yeah, you need to work more. Because that area, see that area? Yeah. That's a whole country of possibilities. I'm not saying. I mean, even though, like, here's the thing. Yeah, I got you. Even though you're tiny and petite and all that.

Don't say tiny and petite. I'm a medium-sized man. What I will say is you're capable of something. Yeah, I'm a medium sized man. Yeah, like, Yeah. Okay, I mean, shmedium.

No, no, no. My back, my back is pretty wide, honestly. What size shirt is that? So this is a medium, but I'm gonna be honest with you. There are a lot of shirts that when they're medium,

I don't look at it. Do you know what size I graduated out of a medium shirt? Or what age I should say, I got out of a medium shirt or what age I should say I got out of a medium I'd like to know actually. Yeah, I probably wasn't like first grade Maybe second. I don't know. It's pretty like it was crazy Well, you were on a farm and probably sucking cows the whole time was I probably grabbed a cow and sucked his utter I didn't have access to cows. Maybe you shouldn't have access to that Okay, well, yeah, yeah should have created a failing should have. Why didn't have access to that? Okay. Maybe you should have created access.

So when you weren't bailing hay, somebody stuck an udder in your mouth and that's why you're a giant. Well, it worked. All right. I'm done with this. Do we have anything else? You want this last one? That's a good one.

So, neighboring city of Gorahills, this gentleman is staying at the Venetian Las Vegas Hotel. Stung by a scorpion. And a scorpion is in the bed and bites him in his no-no area. What? Best part he claims the Venetian comped nothing after this How do you did they find the scorpion? Yeah, actually, I think if you hit refresh you can see the picture Because if I had been hard I would have wanted it to sting Let's wait for the ads to play Fell flat

I would have wanted it sting Yeah, if I've been if I my dick so hard I can blunt a scorpion sting there it is I'm gonna go to Hillsman vacationing in Las Vegas Something bit him while he was sleeping K-Cow was, his reporter, most dead-yakalaier, spoke with him. Damn, he can speak Spanish. What the hell? Man, it's not my scorpion.

The Venetian is known as a luxury hotel on the Sin City street. It's kind of weird that a scorpion got out there. It's also known for having unwelcome guests. I was surprised to see that scorpion over there. Yep, you heard that right. A scorpion inside his bedsheets. I went to sleep late at night,

around eight o'clock in the morning. I was, walk up by. Vic, I like how they make this all heavy. My friend, Farchiyo, of Gora Hills says he remembers that morning vividly, waking up in excruciating pain. Yeah, but you don't look like you have an exciting life, dude.

So a scorpion to the dick is probably. Balls. You know what I mean? To the balls. It probably spiked his testosterone testosterone it's like smelling salts oh come on I'm saying this is my worst fear going to a hotel I like I always rip the bed yeah you don't want a scorpion in there I don't know what's in there yeah my my cousin in Africa stuck her hand or Christmas stocking and got stung by Africa yeah in Tanzania and it didn't it wasn and got stung by a Africa, yeah, in Tanzania.

And it didn't, it wasn't good. Stung by what? A scorpion. A scorpion. Yeah, in Africa, in Africa is how you pronounce it. We have to go do our trampoline class, dude. Yeah, I know. It's been really fun. Yeah.

I'm going to be. How do you think you would react if you got stung by a scorpion in your balls? Like this? Hello, old friend.? Hello old friend. Hello old friend. Like that? And then I would just release it into the desert. Yeah. And my balls would swell up and I would just fucking meditate and I would take all that energy dude and I would just I would focus it here right here in my Hara. It's called my Root Chakra. You just, you realize you just made a face like you were gonna take a crap. Dude, that's not the face I make

when I'm gonna take a crap. Is it not? No, I just went like this. Like that? Is that the noise you make? Yeah, when pain happens. Is it normally painful for you to do that? When I get stung in the ball?

No, no. Oh, I thought we were. I thought you were doing the crap face. No, no, when I pull, I go like this. It's a good way to. Did you do it again? One more time. There's nothing more unattractive than biting.

It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. You shouldn't do that. Yeah. Not during sex or anything. Like even by yourself, that's bad. Right. Right.

That's not. I'm sorry. You know those guys who bite? No, I don't know guys that bite like that. You don't do that when you're lifting heavy weights like this. No. No. You don't go like this.

You don't do that? No, I don't. Okay. Dopiece. Do you know that one time? Speaking of this I bit my tongue Like almost in half. Oh my god, you know that no I didn't tell you that no it's pretty bad Fuck lifting. No plain basketball. Oh my God. I jumped and came down, chewing gum, right? Yeah, bad, bad, bad. Chewing gum and came down and my chin hit this guy

on the top of his head and it just popped. And my mouth just went numb. Oh, geez. Like the whole thing went numb. And I was still chewing my gum, right, playing. And I was like, yeah, something feels kind of wet. And I just went like that. And it was just like all blood.

And I came out and I had one of these trainers and he was a type of guy like rub some dirt on it, you're fine. You know, that type of guy. And I was, I was like, uh, his name was Tony. I was like, Hey, Tony, come, come look at this. Right. I stuck my tongue out and he was like, he was, yeah, I got a reaction. A normal, he's the type of guy that would be like,

yeah, it's fine, whatever. Yeah. He was like, all right, that's not good. And so I, I finished playing the game as you naturally would. Right. And then I, uh, I had to go to the hospital and get my tongue sewn back together. Oh my God.

So, that had to hurt like a motherfucker. Yep. My, my together. That had to hurt like a mmmmm motherfucker. Yep. My parents had come to the game and they came there. And the best part was numbing it, right? So like your- With the needles. And they just, they take these clamps. So they take like the end of it and they just clamp it so you

can't move it, right? And then you have to watch like the needles go into your tongue. Dude, that's not a good day. But my mom did not do well with that. No, that's not a good day. So she like, she like passed out. She did?

Yeah, at the hospital. So then they had finished sewing my tongue back together and then we had to wait for her to get out of the hospital. Hospitals deal with some crazy shit and that would be one of them. Brian Shaw's tongue. It was good. You have a thick tongue. Yeah. I think I, yeah. But I mean, the thing. Is it a long tongue or is it a short flat tongue? I have a good tongue. Yeah. Yeah. I have a good one. It's fine now. It grows back together. It's a long tongue or is it kind of a disappointing short and fat tongue? That's a small tongue. Wow. There you go. That's a

very, very... Let's see your tongue. That's a mediocre tongue. Let's see it. Like, that's any... Look at yours. Yeah, but mine is, mine is big for my face. Yours is, you have a mini tongue. And that's a fact. Listen, bro, here's the thing. If your tongue is too big, you've seen these guys with the tongue too big And you can't even get your like it in their head. It's not good, but it's just it's a small tongue It's not a small tongue. You know what I mean? It's a shit My tongue got so the point is the point is you can be a giant and not everything I handle that very well I can only imagine how horrible you would have handled that if your tongue was a bit in half. I would have gone like this If your tongue was a bit in half. I would have gone like this.

Hey, hey. Brian. Yeah. That's not what you would do. You weren't doing that when I was explaining about the... Look, look, look, look, look, look, tongue I still played in the entire game with my tongue. That's good. Yeah, that's good That's called perseverance. Yeah, look we got to go spin a long pod. All right, listen me I just I just gave you the best story. I think that you probably have ever good story. All right Don't say the best. Don't be it was pretty good. Listen guys

Tulsa, Oklahoma March 15th 16th Bricktown Comedy Club Brian Shaw probably open for me now come see me and then I'm at Westminster BC in Vancouver basically House of Comedy Friday March 21 22 23 then the brain improv April 19th and 20th Brian well done sir yeah go go check Brian now he's actually he's actually funny. See that? Unlike today. Well, yeah, today we had. You're better in that setting.

I've seen you perform live. Dude, I was in a position of listening. No, you did great. I'm giving you a compliment. You can't take a compliment. I can take a compliment, but you're doing a great job. Now you're telling me my stand-up isn't, I mean, my podcasting is. Yeah, no, this was okay.

That's even better. We had to cover some ground. I know, but you do a good job in person. Thanks for the tongue biting story. Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you. This is Sprint Brian Shaw, four times strongest man in the world. We had a great time. It was a good time.

Yeah, it's fun. Four time, right? Four times current strongest man on earth. You're current. Yeah. As of 2020. And his YouTube channel is awesome too I watch it all the time yeah yeah yeah it gets a lot of views how many

subscribers got a shitload of crazy two million which is damn yeah two million on YouTube that's insane yeah it's awesome well we're gonna we're gonna go do some dancing I'm looking forward to seeing what that does yeah alright kids this is a fighter kid we're out