The Flop House - Academy Awards Flopstacular 2009!

Episode Date: March 1, 2009

Apologies for the sound quality of this show.  We had sound issues we weren't aware of until well after the taping.0:00 - 0:26 - Theme0:27 - 45:34 - We discuss the Oscars. Oh surely the skies will be... dark tonight as all the stars are in Hollywood's Kodak Theater!45:35 - 55:35 - Letters from listeners.55:36 - 56:39 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Ellie Kaelin. Yeah and tonight I think I see Stuart walking down the red carpet, wearing a Tuxedo T-shirt. And here's Elliott with his dress backpack. We dazzled with thousands of pepper rolls. So let's join the flop-tackler. Inside. That's the fourth of July on them. So before we get started, like before the Oscars they have one. You know they show people walking on the red carpet. I saw it, ten seconds of it. Did you see the part of Hugh Jackman? Gave her a leptance? That's the only part I saw.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It was really weird. It was creepy and gross, but not as bad as Barbara Walters pulled dancing with them you more the year the strip tease came out yeah i guess you're probably right uh it's basically like turns on which uh type of shit smells worse but the eloquent flop house awards fought taquilla so uh i know why everyone's tuning in tonight to hear everyone's tuning in to think to hear what we thought about the fronks who was the best and works for us
Starting point is 00:02:09 uh... that's what you're talking about the paul the petty coach uh... true so's everyone everyone you might think uh... the looks were uh... retro but they're actually futuristic actually futuristic i mentioned that i thought it was funny to a coworker of mine, and she said, no, but that's true. It was futuristic. It wasn't retro.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And I said, oh, it's still a lot of funny, and she said, and we got into an argument. Really? Yeah. It was like a fist fight, and the Daily Show corridor. It was not a fist fight. It was just a verbal sparring, and then I left. My job in a store filled with guys playing miniature games
Starting point is 00:02:49 War games. So is that like pocket Tetris? What did you talk about with the Oscars? We talked about basically everyone just talked about each ledger and why he deserves to win in Cardinal 9. Which he did. Yeah. That's about it. So that was a really short conversation.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It was, but then guys were talking about how Iron Man should have won for visual effects. Basically anything that was somewhat genre related. I imagine a lot of conversations in your workplace were like this. Pew, pew, pew. Oh, you got my guy Pew pew. Oh stop him And then you make like Like that's a horse He actually is of my shop every
Starting point is 00:03:40 Painting my minute my miniatures my miniatures Well, let's let's the Oscars how do we think you huge Jackman did well does he get a thumbs up or a flop down I yeah he's from Australia when he was actually on stage I thought he did a pretty good job yeah I think he had to go backstage and take some morphine every now and then to feed some addiction he might have because he was absent for the long periods of time, but he was very good. I mean I enjoyed the opening number and uh... he's in or out.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Well I just am glad that in the musical, the big musical medley salute to music and songs they chose as many songs that were written for stage shows that were later adapted into films as possible and as few songs written for the screen as possible. Yeah. Because I love those original musicals like Chicago and uh... West Side Story. West Side Story and uh... that song from Mulan Rouge and you know all these songs that were written from movies only.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah. Like the Oscars forgot what they were about. That would win our Oscar for part of the Oscars that seems to be from a different show. That's only the second worst part of the Oscars though. The worst being the 2008 yearbook. But what are you talking about? The bits where they showed like, hey remember there were action movies that came with it? Yeah exactly. Yeah that was kinda weird, but it was nice to see Death Race got a little more than this.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yes it was. But yeah but I thought the musical number at the top was very good. The Hugh Jack and musical number. Even the jokes that didn't work, I thought that we're still using. And I liked the whole bit about how he didn't see the reader, because I thought it was funny. So we're in agreement. And then the ceremony went downhill. Yeah, I mean, I think it was pretty fast though. I mean, they didn't like far around. No, except for the salute to 2008. Parts 1 through 10. Yeah, that's true. Now the weird bits were like in the salute to 2008 moments.
Starting point is 00:05:33 They were action movies. There was comedies, romance. Romance, that's animation. Basically like where are our profit sectors? Hollywood Inc. Let's take a look at what our profit sectors are and make sure they're represented at the Hollywood Awards. Well for me, to me, the one that seemed the strangest was the romance one because animation, you know, like there are very few animated films released in a year compared to other compared to live action movies and so you can sort of
Starting point is 00:06:05 encapsulate that in my montage. I saw more of space chimps in that montage than I've ever seen before. Action films are basically sort of accepted as their own genre, comedy, likewise, whereas romance, usually it's an element of a larger picture. There are romantic comedies or romantic dramas
Starting point is 00:06:27 romantic action movies like Tangling Cash the story of the love between a straight-laced cop and the cop and his loose cannon partner and a romantic animated films like Fritz the Cat But so many the nine lives of Fritz the Cat. So many of the things in the romance montage were just like the romantic subplot from movies that were not. I think literally what they were thinking was we need something for girls also. We've got animation comedy which has become a man's game except for Tina Feyn and Amy
Starting point is 00:06:59 Polar basically. And action we need some ladies movies in here so i have kissing in one and shit and then ladies like that across a couple and uh... and that from movies about parties and party dresses
Starting point is 00:07:18 well that's like what all of the friends are wives strangers is to be what happened uh... last year when uh... your boss hosted when you had the joke montages. And those, um, well, the idea was that the, it was tributes to very specific things that were kind of cliches and movies, but this was, um, it was almost like they saw that and they were like, all right, we'll go the opposite romance. But only in 2008, like if there's anything that the movies have
Starting point is 00:07:45 created in the human mind it's the idea of this idea of romance that is very much of film creation romance has existed through the ages you know but like film romance is a very specific thing ever since the first caveman let the first candle romance has been a part of the human condition flash forward to ancient Babylonia the but like but films are known for their like if there's Anything that they've been known for for their entirety since the silent era. It's the idea of romance so to limit it to 2008 seems crazy you were saying during the show that there were Interested in just getting rid of any sense of film history Well, it was the only the only until the very ends when they were like this year's best picture nominees remind us of older films
Starting point is 00:08:31 That we'll cut in with them and except for that it was almost like they were trying to tell you the only thing You need to know about the past in movies is that awards have been given out in the past You don't need to know about the movies Hollywood is about the academy awards and occasionally it makes movies and 2008 was the greatest year in hollywood history let's look back at all the amazing movies that came out like death race in the tale of desperate oh you know and high school musical whatever you know I mean that's what it is is they were saying and clone were they're saying here's the stuff you didn't see in the theaters you should rent it now the same way that at the credits
Starting point is 00:09:04 they had the you know the shots from movies coming out this year but you by the way I got in case you guys didn't know we got more movies coming out don't worry these one of the only movies is more than this came from all boy you know if you thought these ones were good way you get a load of two thousand nine o g here romance pictures so it was it was just like a fair it was a story was a very mixed up oscar so it was in terms of the set and having the and the way they did the music they were going for an old hollywood thirties vibe
Starting point is 00:09:36 it but they refused to admit that they were movies i think i think i accept ones that start people who are dead now like in the in-memorium section as a surprise they actually shows clips from movies well those were a few of the things that i liked and they did try and change things up some of the changes i thought we're good some work yeah we're bad and i i liked the set in general i thought i was a more
Starting point is 00:09:59 interesting set a more intimate set it didn't have any giant oscar's yeah over people ready to crush them it was a swarovski crystal curtain yeah it's a curtain made of swarovski crystals it was great putting lights behind them it was kind of funny the huge acumen uh thing was all about the budgets really though low this year so made on my own props to use underneath this swarovski crystal curtain. This billion dollar set.
Starting point is 00:10:26 The one thing about that that mom has brought like people who died or what it was, was they, while you were watching it, like the camera kept kind of like zooming and like moving and it's giving you a little nausea. I felt like I was watching TV or G4 or whatever they call it now where it's like, now we're swore going or cnn they do it to like zoom in on the screen and then zoom away from the screen please just use show me the screen we were watching this on a fairly you know large flat screen don't be modest and
Starting point is 00:10:57 your tv is a hundred inches now but it's uh... it's a reasonably large a high definition tell and we're the highest definition and we were possible not not not true at all But we were watching it in HD and we still had a hard time Reading the names it was so defined a high level of definition But yeah, we had trouble reading who was who some of the people were and just like getting a good look at them You know, it's yeah
Starting point is 00:11:24 I you start off you start off with Sid Sharice one of the most beautiful women in history and the cameras so far back That you can't see what you look like what she famous for is her games. You can't see your games, you know What's the deal? I'm I was saying it was his it will go rent singing in the rain or us You know silk stockings or the bandwagon you'll be in game city Like that show silk stockings with bandwagon you'll be in game city no not at all you'll tell differently but it was not us a silk stockings it was like the director forgot that this was a
Starting point is 00:11:55 television show and that what was on the screen on stage could fill up the whole screen for the viewers at home but even they're trying to capture instead what would be the experience be like to be in the theater on a boat? On a boat. On a boat that keeps going back and forth. It keeps listing back and forth. Violent ladies.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It was the same way when they're like, I want to show the nominee and also the older the previous winner who's paying tribute to the nominee. Let's put them in a tiny double box with a huge mosaic around them of moments from this year's films and we'll have Kung Fu Panda jumping in the air biting something. Every time that Elliot can't pay attention to what's being said, because it keeps being distracted by how goofy Kung Fu Panda is. It was a plot against you. It was, yeah. Gil Ketsu, whoever, was like, I don't want Elliot to be able to pay attention to this. of you Elliot. Hey sure speak of me
Starting point is 00:12:47 We haven't talked about who won yet also Yeah, I just want to break in and say Elliot worked on the Oscars In some in some capacity in the in the past I worked in a larger capacity a couple years ago than I did last year I still a little bit last year, but I want to mention that because a couple years ago than I did last year. It's still a little bit last year. But I want to mention that because we did talk about this last year on our awards flop tag or however that was back in the days
Starting point is 00:13:11 when our sound was occasionally sort of dicey and that was the diceyest sound of any episode I believe. The Andridice playlist sound. So if you want to reach hell any Oscar anecdotes at any point, I would encourage you to do so because I feel like no one can hear them. Okay. And I don't have a number. Yeah, I mean, we don't listen to anything you say.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I know. Well, yeah, if you did, you wouldn't let me talk on as long as I do in each of these. I don't really remember any anecdotes in particular. I mean, I didn't get to go to LA for the Oscars. I worked on stuff in New York. I mean, the first year I worked on it was with the broke back mountains years. So I did that I co-produced the gay cowboy montage. But the gay cowboy montage, the only exciting thing about that I guess, we spent a lot of time working on the sound mix for that. A lot, we rented all the movies, we were using
Starting point is 00:13:58 a sound from this particular music catalog. A lot of the movies were tapes from my collection that didn't look that great because Taped off television because the movies were not available to us on DVD and you'd think the Oscars would be like Whatever will get you the original film elements, you know, but no of course not and we worked a lot of on the sound mix to get it all working right and then It was like a little too long so the editors the Oscars are like ah, yes I'll just pull this chunk out here So there's this big like, chim in the sound when it goes from one song to another really bluntly,
Starting point is 00:14:29 and we were all really pissed off, and we were like, oh, the guys of the Oscars didn't really put that much work into massaging this. But the other funny thing was, uh, we, uh, the last clip in it involved Gregory Peck and Charlton Heston from the movie The Big Country, where Gregory Peck, uh, is leaving and Charlton Heston. I forget which one says to you, like Charlton Heston says like you didn't have to come say goodbye. Charlton Heston is in his long underwear. And Gregory Pek goes the kind of govai had in mind to take a little more room. And then Charlton Heston just smolders at him and then gets up off the bed. He's sitting on. And
Starting point is 00:15:02 we cut it there. And apparently the whole time we were really worried that john wanes family uh... his son in particular runs a company called lean enterprises which is the same name as the bad man's company and they're very protective of his copyrighted image so we were like oh we're gonna get a lot of trouble from the dukes people or i guess they just say dukes people they can come to the duke they do get a lot of trouble from john wanes people they're gonna be unhappy they want like this the idea that he is gay
Starting point is 00:15:26 da da da and then we had no problem at all but Gregory Peck's widow was very unhappy with the implication that he was gay coughing so much that his character was gay in this scene and so apparently the president of the academy and like the Gil Cates the producer had to go out and visit uh Gregory Peck's widow and just be like listen Let's just give us permission, you know don't worry about it. It's not it's not such a big deal and she said okay but I
Starting point is 00:15:55 Loved the idea that like I watch this movie on a tape in my house And I marked this scene as seeming kind of homo erotic and as a result the President of the Academy has to go talk Has to go drive over to Gregory Pax Widow's house and sit in her living room and explain to her that like it's okay he won't people won't really think your late husband the beloved screen actor was gay you know and that was one of the best received parts of that Oscar if not if not the best received I thought we did a very like to tune my own horn I thought we did a very good job and I was very proud of it afterwards and you know it was a lot it was about a month's worth of work that went into it So I'm crash winning
Starting point is 00:16:30 That was the highlight. Yeah. Oh Jesus Yeah, people are hearing people some Some of gay races people. A tribute to Hollywood racism. Old Hollywood racism. It's got Mickey Rooney and breakfast and Tiffany. And just characters from in the heat of the night. So you're going different ways with it. You guys are talking about movies about races.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Oh, I'm just depicting racist depictions. Oh, yeah. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha characters that tire film no i think i always like thought was more racist than jarger banks though like jarger the trade federation guys like the asian trade federation i'll dissent like and you know that the slave owner as well you then oh yeah the uh... the vaguely middle eastern jewish uh... yeah like the guy who i have to uh... you want i should give them a unique this i can take a look at the لقد أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أريد أن أري so loudly Jewish. I can't help it. But it seems like the, I mean, the Oscar montage of
Starting point is 00:18:05 this year, I don't know that they were that much harder to put together because I'm sure they just use screeners sent out from the studio. I don't even think that they like electronic press kits. They just, oh yeah, that's strong. They're just strong together. EPK is with all of them. And then there was that, that one at the end where it was like, here's the reader. And now here's the graduate. And here's another movie about an older girl and a young guy And here's some Holocaust movies like the idea that like movies remind us of other movies So let's show you some I mean not not to defend the reader and this is really like I think Stuart loves the reader
Starting point is 00:18:36 Every single thing they showed about it like highlighted the elements of movie that I felt were the least interesting like the Holocaust angle and the I did the elements of the movie that I felt were the least interesting like the Holocaust angle and the Order woman with a younger man. I felt those two things were like easily the least interesting elements of the reader and yet But those are the most the most easily explainable and graspable and describable. Yeah, that's I mean the fact also that every movie seems to be being sold right now Is a thriller the readers being described as a thriller and it's not Benjamin buttons being this being made to look like a thriller and it's commercials made the least. Well that was the funny thing. We're like.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Who's that baby? Is it Benjamin Buttons? Will Smith. Will Smith, baby. Benjamin, baby. And he does this whole long speech about action films because he's introducing the the visual effects awards and then there's uh... only three things nominated and one of them is the curious case of bingerman button action film
Starting point is 00:19:32 not an in action film the so much action they like it's order there are times watching watch their times watching bingerman button where it feels like a tarcowski movie movie or like a Matthew Barney movie like just like things moving slowly. At least Matthew Barney has that horse race in Kramerster 3 with the dead horses running. Whatever, you guys are. Yeah, we've watched the entire Kramerster cycle.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Those are, you guys obviously weren't with me and my friend Brock the day we went to the Guggenheim and watched all the Kramerster movies in a row. That was great. It was about seven to nine hours, I think. Oh, it's way more than seven. It's about nine hours, I think. Anyway, you guys don't want to come with me when the film form runs the human condition trilogy again all in one day. I rolled my eyes. I rolled my eyes, but then I remember that Stuart wins all of the Lord of the Ring, who he's back to back and their extended cut. In the theater, yeah, I was pretty good. I do it again, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But okay, I guess, I heard a lot of complaints that worked today about the Oscars that it was like too cheesy, which I feel is not, like, these actors think they're so important. They talk about this as if it matters. And it's like, well, it's in a word show for movies. Like, you might as well talk about it as if it matters.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I mean, it was a very actor focused Oscar. It's the way I had to like, to like, celebrate every performance, not thing. But it's, I mean like you, there's a, I like a certain amount of Hollywood glamor. Like I wouldn't have liked if it was a super stripped down Oscars where they just gave out awards and didn't do anything. I feel like there's a mixed bag this year for that reason. Yeah, I mean if you don't like watching actors celebrating themselves when I'm like fucking asking.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Well, yeah, exactly. Well, that said, I did like that they seemed to be making a stab at, you know, honoring, writing a little bit more. For a moment, I imagined the Cryptkeeper closing this fight, yes? They did make a stab at honoring biting. A little gore. We're going to do that someday. We're going to do the same character. One of us is gonna be the
Starting point is 00:21:29 crib keeper for him. That'd be awesome. When Stuart's away we'll do me and you Dan and the crib keeper hosting an episode. But no I thought that the Tina Fey's Steve Martin thing where they actually showed the script pages was kind of nice. The only problem with that though, it was a good idea, was that the clips they showed, in at least two of them, the actors were not on book. They were changing the wording of the script, as it was shown on screen. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So it was like, without the script, we couldn't have a make a movie. The script is everything. Now watch some actors have like this without the script we could never make a movie the script is everything now watch some actors Have their way with the script and change the way like Before we can say that's all you got a writer has to sit down and write is this the amount that you have and only this you know like it's well But I mean without a baseline to work off of we can assume that in a lot of those cases the writer was on set no i would just i would just say pick pick like do the work of picking an example where the words on screen match what's being said right but in theory
Starting point is 00:22:34 it was nice it was a nice idea that's true they're showing that these movies don't just appear out of nowhere that someone actually wrote them you know and writers by all accounts get almost no respect. And I never have. They never have that any respect. What, right? That's contrary and still, but I mean, that's the, it was, it was a nice idea that they said,
Starting point is 00:22:55 like, writing is important, you know, as opposed to, maybe that was in the guild settlement. Like, you guys don't get any new media shares, but we will say writing is important at the Oscars. I thought that was a neat idea showing, showing like reading out the descriptions. I just wish it was, it matched what was on screen. I like all the music. Did you? Even when it was playing when people were talking?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, I was gonna say, I actually did like the smaller jazz combo, but it was very strange when it was a Sarajeska Parker and Daniel Craig. Without makeup, we wouldn't have done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done someone match those two up in a film. Chemistry! Bond in the city? I like it. Sex on the James Bond? Done. If John Hamm and Tina Faken appear on screen together, then Daniel Craig and then San Jessica. That's my sorry Jessica for. She sounds like a barn owl. I would have just reminied. Ouch, wow, not making fun of her appearance. She's gonna say that Maggie Grover looks really old. That's terrible. I'm gonna like to see that Remake and Ferris Feuilers day up with old Maggie Grover. Why would they do that?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Playing with the principal? No, playing first. why would they do that playing with the the principal no playing first why would you do that it doesn't make any sense though I mean I guarantee you I'm imagining the end where he's running so tired can't leap over these hedges the way I used to I mean I imagine Zachar on will be in first-bular's day off the remake pretty
Starting point is 00:24:46 soon so sure were a lot of kids at the oscars this year well people get younger jack nickles and can't be there all the time and it's a teneties in the hospital right so the oscars mainstay tenetty and roishanter died so he couldn't be well I mean it's you either had kids or you had oh man every year you either had kids or you had Saphila Ren
Starting point is 00:25:12 get rising her dusty bones from the grave to appear on stage in in some sort of mishave a sham wedding dress she's gonna fucking fuck your ass she's gonna die next week and you're gonna feel so bad. I will feel so bad. I have always had such a crush on her. And like, if you see the movie The Millionaires,
Starting point is 00:25:30 she is so hot in that. And it just makes me wish I was around in the 60s to masturbate to her when she was young. Yeah. I'm glad that you went there. Listen, I'm not gonna pull punches, but it doesn't seem to be a learn. No, no, no, no, I'm just glad that you're honest about your fantasy.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You're like fantasizing about being alive back then, but you're fantasizing about masturbating. Well, I know I don't have a chance to feel it right. Exactly. Peter Sellers didn't have a chance with her. I certainly don't. I mean, you know, I'm the first one to acknowledge the beauties of Oscar past. But I will also make fun of them when they get older. Even Marie Saint has aged also, but she has aged in a classy way, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like, like, Meryl Streep kind of does. Well, Meryl Streep is not anywhere near as old as a Vila Renner or even Marie Saint. I mean, she's older than us. She's like 60, isn't she? She's, no, she's aging well into, you know, and she's finding the roles that Meryl Streep can find at that age, you know. She's a she's a she's a lot of people brought to kids it looked like and Anne Hathaway brought her dad. Your best friend Anne Hathaway. My best friend Anne Hathaway.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm in the way people's daughters look right. I mean we shouldn't. Okay. We get. Wait, were you gonna make fun of the like Merrill Street's daughter? No. I thought she looked cute. No, she looked okay. Any who? Should we talk about the awards or should we keep talking about? a any who should we talk about the award to talk about you are going to the you bring your dad i bring my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:26:56 i probably bring my wife i would love to know your dad but I imagine the two you just carousing around the Oscars big moustaches Bearing your hands. He would spend the whole time very upset that he's out of the house. He would be upset that it's crowded. Any waiting in line that you would have to do. Oh that sounds like me at the Oscars. Sounds like me everywhere.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So let's actually talk about They'd mistake you for the Rogan Brolin clone that broke out of the lab somehow Rogue rolls Rogan loose the humor the shot colors not working the acting the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the talked about that before, I guess. I thought he was the only one who's been glad you got the golden globe too. No, Josh Polindid. Really? Yeah. Keith led you got nothing last night too. This performance is the jokester, just kidding.
Starting point is 00:28:20 His performance says the jester. That was the number of times that they said Joker in the ceremony I thought was funny movie is gonna show you an old man going young again or some crazy Joker bringing chaos to That's my will Smith for some reason Sounds like the peppered farm guy just hearing them say Joker and like Gotham City Joker's running a mark in Gotham City again like it's it's sad a little bit to to me how much of a thrill I still get from even though the movie like Dark Knight doesn't get nominated for anything they cannot ignore it at the Oscars like they still have to mention it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And at the end of Hugh Jackman's song when he yells, I'm Wolverine! I thought that was very funny. It was good. I was really disappointed that Lil Smith was the one who had the presentation about action movies and not my favorite part current action movie star Nicholas Cage. I don't know maybe his hair didn't cast mustard. And he got a best actor. Yeah, for leaving Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:29:13 How come he wasn't in that group of guys? It maybe wasn't available. The only thing there are literally dozens of best actor winners. There are only five on stage. What's the couple really crazy guys up there too? Like, Anthony Hopkins seemed crazy. He is crazy. He is crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Well, that's what I loved is when they say to Frank Langella, your portrayal of Richard Nixon blew every other one away. And Anthony Hopkins is right there on stage. I wish they had cut to Anthony Hopkins like rolling his eyes or something. And then to Philip Baker Hall at home rolling his eyes. Yeah, kids. They have a camera set.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Well, you saw secret otteries got cameras everywhere. There's a nanny camera filled with everyone in those houses. And then what? There is. What he's not even watching me ask you. And then what's the name of the guy who plays? He's watching that show. What was the show?
Starting point is 00:29:58 You guys were watching her in the cold over. 100 most outrageous home video moments. That was the best. All we saw was wedding cakes falling over. One after other and then and then then air it the voice over Now it goes here's our favorite cake based miss half There's like why do you have to have a favorite in that category of cake based miss haves? I imagine I'm sitting in a home the kitchen table riding out of list That was number three. That was either NBC or CBS. One of the other networks have it and I
Starting point is 00:30:26 love to like, oh the Oscars are on. There's only one thing that can top it at wages home videos too. You would recommend seeking that show out if they re-broadcast it. I would love that show. I've noticed them a lot more often lately. Well they're cheap to make so. Yeah YouTube would have fleetly invalidated. No, no. I'll tell you what YouTube, I'll tell you what YouTube doesn't have. One you've got to find them and two it doesn't have boom. oh that wasn't what I meant to do you know like the sound effects and the crappy cartoon boy that was my favorite thing is watching this funny of some videos and be like I hope I don't fall off
Starting point is 00:31:13 this chair boom I felt off the chair my nuts are so tender I hope I don't get heated them that makes them more interactive what you do is you go out and you buy from a morning show, a radio morning show, a used sound effects. Oh, okay. You get your home and add to your sound effects. You get your Hannah Barbera sound effects CDs. Woo!
Starting point is 00:31:37 You know. From your Lath Olympics DVD. Oh, is that finally out on DVD? Good. It's a blue rag. Blue rag. So you can see all the dirt on the cells when they came from Korea and didn't get cleaned up. Oh, is that finally out on DVD? Good. Blue-ray. Blue-ray. So you can see all the dirt on the cells when they came from Korea and didn't get cleaned on.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Is that done? Is that different from the animal Olympics? Come on, come on, man. You might as well get mixed up with wacky racers. Anyway, if we can be serious for a moment, someone ruins that. Is there any winners or losers? Well, we talked to where are the old winners here's a lot of them are losers i don't i haven't cared uh... less about who wins the Oscars in many a year this is the first time i care about some of them but i many of them i just wanted certain ones not to
Starting point is 00:32:15 win out of spite right but even there no wall lead you know but even there's not like the best and i was furious here like slumdog millionaire here slumdog millionaire one and I'm just like well I wouldn't have gone that way it was not because it was an inoffensive choice it was not like a beautiful mind or crash or you know what else recently gladiator you know where Chicago where there's no way you can argue that that was the best movie.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Like, slumdog and linear, a lot of people liked it, it wasn't bad, it was, you know, it had things going for it. Was it the best movie of the year? No, but it was not, like, the reader didn't win. Sorry Stuart, which it would have made me mad. Benjamin Button didn't win, which would have made me mad. Oh yeah, the reader's not gonna win, because it wasn't the best picture. Clearly it won't admit that I think slumdog Millionaire is better put together, but there isn't enough about Slumdog Millionaire that I really like. No, well I mean either.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I wouldn't call that either. That's a nice package, like that's what we'll put together. But like the reader, there's bits of it that I like a lot, but then a lot of it, it was like, man whatever, or that was stupid. But like, yeah, it was not a year of passion for the Oscars. Yeah, I mean, I really would have liked to see Milkwin, that sort of like was just out of my top five.
Starting point is 00:33:32 But I thought, but Sean Penn winning for best actor for Milk was great. Sure. I thought I would have been, that was not your choice, but I would have been disappointed if anyone else had won that. Who did, do you want Franklin, Jell-A? I like Franklin, Jell-A.
Starting point is 00:33:44 But like, if Mickey Rorck had won had won that I read a I was reading somewhere online There's thing like Sean Penn made himself into a character like and what people were saying at work was like I didn't realize how to good job He did a milk until he started talking to the Oscars and I realized how much I hate him and how likable he was in milk Like he made himself into this upbeat likable person whereas Mickey Rourke and the rest are got a lot of notes for not really doing anything that different from yeah it's not that not that different than like Jean-Claude Van Dam in in JCVD yeah yeah I haven't seen it so I can't judge but I was rooting for him just because I wanted to see the awards speech that Mickey
Starting point is 00:34:23 Rourke would have given I think that would have really spiced up the ceremony. I think it would have been weird. I think it would have been weird. Before she interviews Mickey Rourke, they're going through like a list of his career and they're talking about like the high points. And then when they start on the downward slide, they're like, and while it's working and nine and a half weeks and with the angel heart, like, okay, with uh... angel heart okay fine but angel heart is like that uh... and none of those movies are none of them are great but they're not
Starting point is 00:34:52 like a downward slide as if he was do if he was like that uh... well it's not like he's tom size more doing internet pornography you know but then again he didn't make hardly david's in the moral of the man was when he started on his uh... You know, but then again he didn't make Harley Davidson in the Marlboro man But it's like I didn't like the idea of this this comeback idea of like oh, it's the comeback kid like oh finally He's rising from the ashes Mickey Rourke like there are better actors that have failed worse and there have been bigger Comebacks and you know acting careers have ups and downs. That's what like Bert Reynolds career has ups and downs and you know, acting careers have ups and downs. That's what like Bert Reynolds career has ups and downs.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I mean like, it's performance in Cincinnati was really good. That, if anything was his comeback, Cincinnati was his comeback. Like, and is his first major release in a long time, you know? But he, I didn't like when the five actors came out and they're like, Mickey, you've been up, you've been down, you know, whatever he said, like, you're back, Nat, like, it felt like, on, I was saying like, it felt like on, I was saying yesterday
Starting point is 00:35:45 It felt like top chef or something where they're like Carla don't you have the craft but you didn't bring the taste on this one Jeff You're spreading yourself too thin three mediocre dishes, but no great dishes like this weird I think that would have been great actually if they all get it But if they didn't like they all came out and critiqued all of the... And critiqued their careers though. I don't like it. I don't need them to inject any more drama into an award ceremony for actors making dramatic films. Instead of giving up Oscars, they hand out roses to every one of you.
Starting point is 00:36:17 But here's Emreau's new book, Mickey Rourke. Now you can cook New Orleans. But film is such a like it's about can. No, I wouldn't have. No, you know what I'm saying. Film is about constructing emotional experiences. So like the Oscars should be they shouldn't be doing the same thing I feel like. If there's a real emotional experience that comes out of it, then that's great.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But you know you shouldn't be pushing it that hard that like well there's like this whole story is is the best but you also have the most story writing on you is very american idly yeah well also there's this whole story ahead of time that this year the Oscars would tell a story yet well they told the story for movie being made yeah i is that really what a lot because they were like the writer writes down
Starting point is 00:37:06 Then it's up to these people now. It's the post production phase. I see that there's one person. We didn't mention the director See I wish it I got that where there's no narrative to this I wish the I wish this askers ended with an egg cracking open and a movie coming out of it Exactly yes a film real with sexy legs coming out of an egg It's the weirdest thing since I don't know what somebody some flop house fan. Please mock that up Movies 2009, but were there any awards that you guys were really pissed off about? Or... Uh, visual effects of Benjamin Button. Yeah, that was lame.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And... Yeah, I haven't seen Benjamin Button, but just what I have seen in clips. I was like, well, this looks like a weird CGI fest. That's one of those things that makes me wonder if... When George Lucas and Steven Spielberg were talking about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, they were like, it looks great. It looks real, just like we made it in the 80s, and I think that their eyes are maybe aren't trained the same way to see CGI.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Like when people used to watch stop-motion animated films, and they were like, it's so real! They found footage of real dinosaurs! You know, like they- It does sound. Like they couldn't quite see the fakeness of it. Did it sound like the same word? It did sound like the same word quite see the fakeness of it the same robots I wonder if like older viewers their eyes are not trained to see
Starting point is 00:38:31 CGI the way that when I watch blu-ray movies they look a little weird to me because of the Christmas Christmas the Christmas of the image because of the crisp crispness of the image They look weird to me because I'm so used to watching video tape image they look weird to me because I'm so used to watching video tape. You're going to be all the yes men that surround your self-design. Well I am blaming them but I wonder if like older people if older effects people watch Benjamin Button were like it's seamless. How did they do it? Whereas when we watch it we're like oh CGI put his face on someone else's body fake vote fake bullets oh now it's a fake building. It can't
Starting point is 00:39:02 replies through fake town. This one he's just standing on his knees. Green screen, blue screen, screen screen. I'm gonna trench. I mean you brought this up in a number of conversations, but I think I think why I was rooting for Dark Knight is not just dark knight's skin. That's for sure. But like the video effects like they made such an effort to do it all physically. Yeah, they flipped a fucking 18 wheeler. Like that's so much but like the video effects like they make such an effort to do it all physically
Starting point is 00:39:25 yeah they flipped a fucking eighteen wheeler like that's so much to me as like yeah and it's just our generation no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no way that you know you like that he'd led your puppet haha all sad the heat ledger on i would say it that's horrifying the and uh... i thought it was weird he ledger's sister looked far too excited to be up at the podium on the Oscars celebrating her maybe that was it was weird looking i mean you know it was a touching moment but on the other hand all i could think of was like i was mentally like merging the parents together like to make it that's right they look they look like they could make you pleasure so you were
Starting point is 00:40:08 until I'm on your doubting they were actually the parents speaking of parents the best shot of the night was when Kate Winslet thinks her dad and they cut to her dad wearing this like black the shadow hat in the background and smiling like they you know a villain in the you know He he dropped in on he dropped me parachute it into the stadium to the to the arena or Auditorium he was lighting fast on that whistle to which you could hear across the theater Yeah, well, you know, he probably heard sheep or something in New Zealand So he just does that but I just that was so it was like this great moment of like okay, when it's dad is a character That's great
Starting point is 00:40:51 Like in half the way is that I forget what the half the way is due but in half the way is dad looks like you know Like a retired man, come on your buddy in half the way. I am not that close your best friend I mean I'll ask my mom what her dad does for a little and I thought and I thought and half the way was was very good in the in opening number Also, yeah, I do feel like she's been auditioning for a musical that no one has written yet over the last little way, maybe she'll be in the movie of spring awakening because she was like she was singing this she was singing all the time And when she was hosting Sarah and live, but that's fine because I like musicals so I would actually have to. Maybe she'll finally have that musical number in Rachel getting buried. The sequel I've been pitching to Rachel getting married.
Starting point is 00:41:29 It's a funeral movie. Rachel getting buried a lot. Rachel getting buried a lot. And the horror film is Rachel getting scared. For the thriller to be Rachel getting buried. Yeah. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting buried. Rachel getting hairy. Yeah, and the head. Where will you get married?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Rachel getting tattered. So you're listening to a mad TV pitch meeting. For a pitch meeting for a show that went off the air. You're listening to a late night with Conan O'Brien pitch meeting. Well, I think that probably the mad TV writers get together still every three to pitch sketches alright this character's annoying in this way to stave off the pain
Starting point is 00:42:09 how can we make this sketch a little more conservative guys um so the the the interesting thing about going with a half way though is like Amy Adams was like right there and she's done a lot of musical shit right I wonder if she was a no way maybe she was like like man I should have been up there with the sexiest man in the universe what do you think? I wish I was up there singing with the old conucklehead Logan himself what he does is very nice yeah she and Hathaway for a moment was Hugh Jackman's Jubilee or Shadow Cat maybe Amy Adams is trying to shed the musical image
Starting point is 00:42:44 one for best of porn actors I know the crew is that's right. Okay. I haven't seen that yet, but I'd like to see it. Although, like they were kind of pitching that as like Woody Allen's comeback movie, but I can't even thought of match point. Every, every movie is kind of Woody Allen's comeback movie because his next movie is usually not very good. A turd? Because then he did met- You did that as if you were a wealthy Dowager who had just been informed that there was a turd somewhere in the house. I'm turd. Oh my god. You're Margaret Demont. I am rich little doing Margaret Demont as Jimmy Carter
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's a scary impression Scabulcade now. Oh, here's another Mark's brothers favorite. Here's Sig Roman. Oh I don't think the off-roader do that. Oh here for everybody's favorite. It's Eugene palette Give me back my mutton leg. It's from the adventures of Robin Hood. Oh, who's this? Nat Pendleton? Yeah, alright, Nick, I'll believe you this time. It's from the thin man. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:55 This room's getting crowded. What? Why? Who's that over there? Wait, I wish you were a bit by a dead bee! Oh, Mr. Brennan, please. What? I don't think he broke, Dan. Yeah, I think so. He?
Starting point is 00:44:09 He? I'm Jack Nick. I've never actually saw this. I haven't seen it yet. My girlfriend liked it a lot, and I'd like to see it. She went without me, because I was busy that night. Because she wanted a night alone with Haviar Bardam. No, she went with a friend of hers.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And, well, wait, and that movie doesn't have her friend her friend have you are part of it so it was kind of like an island yeah only went to the movies he went to the theater they made love and here's the problem we've talked about the popcorn trick how do you get your dick and the popcorn in either the buckets full of popcorn so you cut a hole open the popcorn drains out while you're putting your dick in.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Or you cut the hole, you're walking around with the popcorn box on your dick and then they have to fill hot popcorn on your penis. How are you gonna stay correct? That is a... that trick does not work. Yeah. It's clearly in Zips' pants. He gets really horny because he's close to the girl smelling in her... Okay. He's eating all the smells. It's an instant phone there that's so force oh it pops up I think this is the same conversation what was the name of
Starting point is 00:45:09 oh feeling up that was the name of the movie that we came up with it was entirely about that obviously on the big sausage pizza you know I remember ordering a sausage of the penis in it apparently that was Mickey works big scene in diner was the popcorn scene was it that exact Frank so it all back. I don't remember diner that well.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Anyway, should that wrap up our Oscars talk? Yeah, let's move on. We've been talking for a while. I'm gonna run through some letters very quickly. Number one, from Matt last name with held. The Swing Vote installment was an excellent show, Stuart was sorely missed as the sarcastic subwoofer to Elliot's trivia camp tweeter and Dan's normal vocal range. Wait a minute, I'm a baritone. It's just that Stuart is so low. And I'm apparently only high-pitched enough that dog skin here. But Mr. Hines did a nice job of bringing it even though he didn't do a very good job of mentioning breasts. And both Dan and Will manage to keep Elle's endless lists Yeah, Stewart you've been falling down on the job this time too
Starting point is 00:46:13 Okay, what about some feeler ends What's our Jessica Parkers Were you as disappointed as I am that Jessica be old was showing very little yeah What the fuck was she wearing? She's wearing like a towel made at a silk wrap room not not where you as disappointed as I am that uh... just appeal was showing very little yeah unlike a towel made at a silk wrap around anyway anyway and both and will manage to keep elliots endless list to a reasonable length stop again before you reached
Starting point is 00:46:36 scroton scroetables and slurping gullables that's a pretty good thank you for continuing to prove that young white men are not obsolete and uh... he says it's a weird one the strange comment Thank you for continuing to prove that young white men are not obsolete and He says One the strange comment Matt last name with LPSSS Newed picks please so there you go So we've got one from Carl last name withheld people of the flop house long-time listener first-time caller
Starting point is 00:47:02 In fact, I'm listening to your latest podcast as I write this. You're babbling about goats and it's weird, but that's why I tune in. It's kind of half-listened while I do other stuff. Oh, the highest compliment. You guys got into an argument a few minutes ago in my frame of reference. So he's live vlogging the show to us. Let me tell you what's going on in the flop house right now. Let me give you a play by play on what you did last week.
Starting point is 00:47:24 About how unbelievably dumb it would be not to know what pro-life meant. Word of God, my sister, 21 at the time, a Bible-thumping Republican, proudly voted for Al Gore in the 2000 election because, quote, he was the one who was pro-life or whatever, right? So in that respect, the movie wasn't as absurd as you suggest. Please do a movie set in the middle ages sometime soon. I have a medieval blog. I will link to it on the website. Maybe it's time to ring a dungeon siege in the name of the king. Yeah. I can promise you a featured article which would almost certainly bring you six maybe seven new listeners.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Ooh. So there you go. That's pretty good. We will have more than trebled. here from column last name with held It's like we get not only people from the witness protection program sure you have talked briefly about how the academy More often than not gives the best picture Oscar to the wrong movie almost always goodness knows I've been disappointed time and time again by the nod towards say Dances with wolves over goodfellas or the English patient winning over Fargo Given my prior success with multiple viewings of Rubikop and pump up the volume, I might have been able to sneak a copy
Starting point is 00:48:29 of goodfellas into the house, where my parents were away somewhere, but I flew under my teenage radar for a few years. But going back as far as you like. Goodfellas was unwatchable, but Rubikop, I'll let my kids watch that. Well, it has a better message, you know? Yeah, I have Rubikop, man, I'll let my kids watch that. Well, it has a better message, you know? Yeah, I have to roll that off, man. I'll cop.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah, he's also got a heart. It's basically just the Tin Man updated. I'm curious to know if there are examples where you feel the Academy got it right and gave the best picture officer to the best film. We were talking about this, the one that both Ellie and I came up with immediately was the apartment. The apartment is maybe the best purely Hollywood film ever made. But also, I mean, you could say, all quiet on the western front has held up well. You could say that all about Eve is not one of my favorites,
Starting point is 00:49:13 but you could make a good case for it the same with, I'm having trouble remembering some of the other ones, but there are movies that like the Lost Weekend is a very good movie that I believe one best picture of my memory, it correctly. They're not always wrong, but they're just wrong most of the time and many times the best movies are not nominated. You have the pit for the 50s through the ever is when it things really got bad like in the 50s and 60s the studios really learned how to game the system so stuff like
Starting point is 00:49:40 Greatest Show on Earth or around the world in 80 days would win or like Dr. Dulittle would get nominated for best picture and just garbage. So it's not all right. There are times when it's right, but the apartment is the main one. And he says he'd like to know our thoughts and best original screenplay awards that with a few exceptions, the nominations and winners have been a highlight for me more consistently than any other category points out that war games was actually nominated for a best screenplay Oscar
Starting point is 00:50:05 I mean Fargo and best original screenplay which which goes a long way citizen Kane Citizen Kane won best original screenplay Ellie it's not as big a fan as I but I was talking about a journal sunshine at the spotless mind I think that's a great screenplay. I mean, but it the screenplay the thing about screenplays It's though it seems to be the place where they kind of like can slip in sometimes yeah a movie that isn't necessary especially in the nominees they can thank you that is that would that be original or adapted that's the thing yeah that's adapted but like the fact that Wally was nominated for best original screenplay is a really good thing you can't you almost feel like if it wasn't a screenwriting category it wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:50:43 had a chance because you know, the screenwriters at least at the very least still nominate things that aren't necessarily, even if they're big movies, they're necessarily the ones that win other awards and they do, I mean, I'm a guild member, so I got to stick up for screenwriters and say they do a good job all the time. But on the other hand, you also have to take it on apprentices as a guild member. Yes, well, I have to, I'm an apprentice, yeah, I've blown off some part of my hand, unfortunately. In a screenwriting accident.
Starting point is 00:51:08 You can take it on a brand new apprentice like Johnny Perman. No, I'm an apprentice here right now. You should not put gunpowder in your typewriter. So I do a lot of like using an anvil and wearing leather apron. But like you, that's for sexual reasons. No, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:24 See America get born. Not everything is like Johnny Perman. print and but like that's for sexual reasons that it's the american get for it that everything is like johnny tramane but the uh... that you're wrong that i'll get that he's like that even the screenwriters get taken in sometimes like you have like juno winning last year which unless unless as i've said before juno is a brilliant experiment in doing everything the opposite of how you're
Starting point is 00:51:45 supposed to do it when you write a screenplay in which case it deserves the award for working to a certain extent by while doing everything wrong that you could possibly do. Okay I want to get one last letter in hello Dan and Stuart and Elliott just listen to your boss. Hey that like the way this one starts friendly like. Oh this is from Jen last name with help who's a big fan. I suppose to these other letters which are from jerks who hate us well she's linked to us on her website a few times we get some traffic that's nice her website website with hell
Starting point is 00:52:15 i'll put up a link up just listen to your Oscar movie minute and i wanted to agree whole heartedly with your mention of the disappointing lack of nomination for christinaal and as a director i couldn't believe he got passed over for ron. But what surprised me even more is that I listened to a ton of film podcasts. I said in front of the computer all day it worked so seriously I listened to pretty much everyone with a microphone and a podcast and a film opinion. And of all the Oscar discussions I've heard so far you're the only one that brought this up so kudos for agreeing with me. I to mention i i heard uh... a battleship pretension is another
Starting point is 00:52:45 podcast that uh... mentioned it and i want to mention them because there are a lot more popular with us battleship pretension that's a good title that's a better title in the podcast it's a play on a famous movie that no one seen and uh... it kind of itself mocking it's a good show
Starting point is 00:53:02 i say that and the hopes that maybe they're listening and they'll plug us they're too busy pretending they've seen isenstein films my new podcast Alexander Nemsky that's not even a point no it's not not a lot of fun at all I couldn't think of anything that's like nemsky also if you're wondering to whom that wall-e Peter Gabriel song could possibly appeal I have the answer my three-year-old daughter Elizabeth. Oh. Boo. Your daughter is terrible taste. She will provide her. Players of x-ray specs are something. She'll provide her. After hearing it sung by John Legend. I have to say that John Legend version was much better than the Peter Gabriel version. She will provide her own rendition of the song
Starting point is 00:53:43 on endless repeat at top-selling without anyone asking her to. Oh, that's adorable. It's quite pleasant and peaceful, really. I can only conclude that the Academy voters all know young children who do the same thing and were brainwashed into voting for the song. You know, when I was a kid I listened to fucking Kenny Long and Tate, something fucking rebate all the time. Kids like stuff. That's a pretty impressive for a three-year-old to sing a Peter Gabriel song. Well, what's weird is that she started with Beco. This is actually her second Peter Gabriel song.
Starting point is 00:54:14 She's really confused. It's out after you can choose. Well, I had forgotten, frankly, that Wally being a child is so well-made that you forget it's a children's film to certain extent. So it makes sense that they would have a song that maybe kids like because they don't have a fully formed sense of taste and don't know when songs are bad, but that kid sounds adorable. And I will say, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Christopher Nolan will be remembered as a great director at some point.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I think what he's going to do is so pull the dude into the treasure thing where he makes a shitty movie. He's made a couple awesome movies now. Yeah, but same thing with David Fincher. Yeah, I guess I don't know, he has a big fan of David Fincher. Alien 3. Listen, I'm not forgetting Alien 3. You're really? Okay, so I think next year, Christopher and I will get best director for making, I don't know, Ben's been buttoned by four or something. So that's good. This part 2 and 3 will also come out. Even buttoner.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Right, to DVD. But that's Stuart's dramatic prediction for next year. And what are you going to do if that prediction doesn't come true? Let me scribe with my room sticks. So... Hold on, let me scrape this pork shoulder and read these entrails. I have Guy Richie for Sherlock Holmes. Interesting. Well, Stewart concludes his infernal rights. I'm Dan McCoy, and I'm Stewart Wellington.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And I'm Ellie Kaelin, $115 richer, because I won my Oscar pool at work. Good night! Woo! Should Stuart continue talking about Cooch or what's... what, different subject? This is a wobbly table. You need a new... Oh, okay. I won't lean on the table. A piece of furniture made to have weight rested upon it
Starting point is 00:56:10 You should get a new I'll maybe I'll get you one as birthday present winter birthday Yeah, we're big Oscar pull and I got that right I could afford a table I'm I'm not Guaranteeing it But I'm not not guaranteeing it. I'm not sure. But I'm not guaranteeing it. So do we possibly have a new writing? No, that would be...
Starting point is 00:56:30 Is it because you like came with a character in the reader? No. No, it's not at all. Are you a literate? I'm not a literate.

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