The Flop House - Ep. #212 - No Depo$it

Episode Date: September 3, 2016

Smalltember/vember begins with a movie none of us had heard of until a couple of Canadian listeners pressed a blu-ray into our hot little hands: No Deposit. Meanwhile Elliott reveals Ringo Starr's adv...entures in New Jersey, Stuart sends a giant child straight to the circus, and Dan delivers a line that should NOT be taken out of context. NO WIKIPEDIA SYNOPSIS for No Deposit. So here's a page for Frank D'Angelo. Movies recommended in this episode: Demolition Man A Midsummer Night's Dream Pather Panchali

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone, it's small timber and we watched no deposit. What movie is this? It's so small, it might not even exist. I get the name in the movie right. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Check the DVD. And yes. Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house I'm Dan McCoy. Woo-hoo-wee, it's small Vember and I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliot Kaelin. Bein real small for small Vember. So wait, so do you live in Lake Lowe? I live in a little matchbox. Oh wow, you're even smaller than I thought small Vember.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Very tiny, I'll hop in your pocket. You won't know I'm there. Oh, so you can jump like a fle shoe box. I live in a little match box. Oh wow, you're even smaller than I thought, small, ever. Very tiny, I'll hop in your pocket. You won't know I'm there. Oh, so you can jump like a flea or something? Yeah, I have super bug jump. No, I'm spying on me while I'm changing. A little bit. I call up your chest hair in the middle of the night
Starting point is 00:01:18 when I was sleeping. I think I saw a up all night movie where a guy was crawling around in somebody's pubes like that, but they were like, he was super tiny so it was like hunting eyes around the kids. Like he was like, he was like, he's a level-tricking man. Yeah, I think that's what the movie was. No, it's like hunting eyes around the kids. Yeah, he was the cute scene when Rick and Ranna sexually dropped the kids in his pants.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah, and they had to traverse his jungle of a bush. I can only assume. Just as in my off-crab. Just like in the real actual like actual crab. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like in the Rudyard Kippling classic, the jungle bush. In which, locally, those do some changes. He gets real small and comes around to the bush.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Exactly. Yeah. And bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Yeah, I've been told. By who? I don't know. So what do we do with your eyes? Your guys are all over the society.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Your parole officer's to that. I don't know. I don't think I've actually been told that. You see two birds in the bush. You drop that bird in your hand and you go for them because two is more than one. While he's doing that, I'm gonna pick up the bird that he dropped.
Starting point is 00:02:28 More bird for me. Okay, but are you just gonna pick up one or is there a second bird for you to grab? It depends on how many he catches. Okay. Kind of bird is this one. Yeah, why don't I want it so much? Could you can eat it?
Starting point is 00:02:41 Have it. Or companionship. Like a pigeon, like a wormy pigeon. Gross. One, pigeons are delicacy all over the world. Two, why is it wormy? Is it dead already? In that case, don't bother with it. Not the challenge you think it is.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah, yeah, stuff waving around your hand. Put it down. That's disgusting. Where did you even get that? For those who can't see, because you're listening to this, Dan is holding the wormy corpse of a pigeon. And it's just waving it around. Yeah, his name's Edgar and he's my friend. for those who can't see because you're listening to this, Dan is holding the wormy corpse of a pigeon. And it's just waving it around. Yeah, his name's Edgar and he's my friend.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Oh, don't pretend it's a back scratcher. Don't stop doing prop work with it. Now it's a phone. Oh, I get it. Yeah. Now it's a mirror. Now it's a microphone you're singing old duop tunes into.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Now you're telling it to talk to the hand, I guess. This is from the new show, Who's Corpse Is It Anyway? You're gonna do improv with that thing. That's like that old horror movie, what children shouldn't do in Provodet, thanks. That's right. So, what's small-vembr, Dan? Well, explain what this podcast is and then explain what small-vembr is. Well, small-temper, as I meant to name it,
Starting point is 00:03:45 for my tongue slip. Unfortunately, it's a real, champing at the bit, chomping at the bit situation, where, Pidance will tell you, also pronounced pettins, correctly, is, they will tell you it's... Pidance will tell you it's pronounced pettins. They will tell you it's champing at the bit, or you've got another think coming, but real people say chomping at the bit
Starting point is 00:04:06 And you've got another thing coming because they're make more sense. Mm-hmm. They're better So much as the head and In the eye of retouch you've got another think coming no one talks about having something You have a thought you could say you have another thought coming but That you made me what thing do you have coming? A calm upance Another idea have another thought coming, but that you made me. And what thing do you have coming? A come-upence, another idea. That's the wonderful thing. The wonderful thing about thingers, Dan,
Starting point is 00:04:30 is that thingers are wonderful things. A thing can be anything. That's the word thing means. It means anything or a hand that just crawls around on its own or a big rock man who smokes cigars before Marvel decided it's heroes didn't smoke cigars anymore. And deep down, even though it looks like a rock monster man, he's got a really rock monster man.
Starting point is 00:04:50 He's got a really like good soul, you know. Sure he's still Benjamin J. Grimm, his Ampitudinus favorite nephew, the ever-loven blue-eyed thing. Whereas my son calls him the anything or the something. He doesn't quite wrap his mind around the idea of the guys just called the thing. But Dan, you and your ivory tower, Ivy League world, maybe say, small timber.
Starting point is 00:05:17 But us on the streets, the everyday folk live in their lives and just try their best to get by, we say small vans. Nuclear. We say it. We say small vendor. Nuclear. We say nuclear. We say, uh, library. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You say, foliage. You say, washroom. I say, washroom. I say, turl it. And I say, small vendor. Okay. A turl it is half turtle half toilet. It's a living.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It's a living. I've seen a teenage mutant Mutant Ninja Turtles. So, small number is what is it? What are we doing this podcast on a small number? So normally we like to punch up, we like to make fun of big movies or at least movies that got a wide release in theaters. Movies were the people who made them go and live in fancy houses. Yeah. movies were the people who made them go and live in fancy houses. Yeah, but in small temper we, you know, we throw away our morals and decide to take on smaller
Starting point is 00:06:11 movies, real passion projects. Yeah, and they're usually the best. And boy, howdy. Oh, do you like her guys? Now, this is an example of why we do this podcast. This is an example of why we do this podcast. Why don't you tell a story of how we came across this movie? Okay, so- Which is called No Deposit. I'm gonna check on that right now. We're watching a lot of holy work there with the chair. A loud sound of Dan.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I mean, I also can just look it up online. Wow, keeps going. That's Dan dropping the DVD box. Up, Dan's picking up a slide whistle. Oh, don't open that closet. Climb, climb, climb, climb. All right, guys. Woo! He's riding an elephant back. I confirm that it's called no deposit. Thanks for the radio's audio theater fact checking session. So Stuart, tell us the origin of notepad. Okay, now I have been accused in the past of having a suspect memory. And I think this story is going to be probably the same as all the other ones.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So please write in and tell me that I was wrong. But back in July after one of our live shows, some Fellows from Canada came up and, Dr. Brannis and Dave Thomas. I can only assume. And they, In disguise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were not wearing their trademark tukes, drinking their Elson or beer.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Mm-hmm, yeah. And they were, these two guys came up and had some very nice things to say about the show. They said they're involved in the film industry. and they also stuffed a DVD in your pants. In my pants and I'm like, hey guys, hands off the merchandise and then I rolled some dice on the floor. And then they explain the real gun show turns. So they explain the that this movie is this like passion project, not unlike one of your faithful findings, one of your the rooms, and they explain some other stuff that I kind
Starting point is 00:08:15 of just tuned out because I was riding high, having just done a show with my favorite guys. Well, let's explain a little bit about it now. This is a Frank D'Angelo film now Frank D'Angelo Maybe familiar to our Canadian listeners as an entrepreneur. He owns a company that has an energy drink and for a while he I'm sure they believe Surge I think it's surge. Okay, that's a man. It's Canadian so it's spelled S-E-R-G-E It's a French Canadian energy drink, But I don't know that it is surged, but he's a successful drink manufacturer. He had a brewery for a while, which failed.
Starting point is 00:08:49 He has a band that's named after his brewery, which he sings in. And he's also... He's coming from the band. Steelback brewery or the Steelback 2-4 or something like that. And I think it's Steelback. And he also, I mean, we don't have to get into this, but it was was like we are watching the movie and i'm like this is crazy the guys starring in the movie the director rights and he's terrible he's a some businessman and then i'm looking him up on wikipedia and there's the part about his sexual assault
Starting point is 00:09:13 charge that he had to face in court and i'm like this is less fun all of a sudden it does explain why every woman in the film is a heartbeat probably oh yeah that's true except his loving girlfriend or wife, no wife. And he also hosts a talk show that he pays to Aaron Canada. Uh huh, what's the name of the talk show? The being Frank show. And so he's a guy who like has money and decided he wants to make movies and he's made a couple now. And his trademark is that he hires real,
Starting point is 00:09:42 relatively big name actors to be them. Now before you know, I mean, that's most Hollywood, Hollywood director's trademark is that he hires real, but relatively big name actors to be them. Now before you get in the name actors, how do you would, how do you would directors trademark his hiring big name actors? Yeah, but not you usually your passion projects guys who are totally outside the film industry, your Neil Brains, if you will, they don't have the bus. And but like this guy is like, it's he like he's he's not as crazy as Neil Brain. It's like if's not as crazy as Neil Brain. It's like if Neil Brain was on meds, was taking his meds and had an accurate view of reality
Starting point is 00:10:13 except that he still thought he was a great artist and the greatest guy in human history, that's Frank D'Angelo. Okay, I wanna note before we get into the big stars. You wanna note what love is? Yeah, I wanna note what love is. That the movie is totally scored by Frank D'Angelo songs. And that the DVD, the Blu-ray that we were given,
Starting point is 00:10:35 has a copy of Frank D'Angelo's album titled Look Into the Stars. And it's a copy by a photo of Frank D'Angelo that looks to have been taken about 20 years earlier than this movie was made. Now, Frank D'Angelo is a true auditor. He wrote the movie, he directed it, he stars in it, he cast it, he gave himself a story by credit, which seems redundant when he wrote the screenplay too. And just to just to point out the soundtrack that is recorded by Frank D'Angelo, or I like to call him Frank Steely, DeAngelo, because he provides some poppy upbeat jazzy little renditions of songs like Hallelujah, which is always great in a movie.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And Living Let Die was credit at the end, but I don't remember hearing it. Yeah, he must have disguised it really well in one of the earlier scenes. But what I've always wanted is a jazzy, poppy, uptempo version of how you go the way. Yeah, exactly. You're like, um, Kelsey Gramer's not available to sing this.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I guess Frank DeAngelo is our next best bet. So, but there's there were no stars in the heavens or rather Toronto, uh, the Toronto skies, because even though it's the set in Brooklyn, it's very clearly not aside from the huge swaths of stock footage of the Manhattan skyline, the movies in the film. But there are all these stars. There's Paul Sorvino, there's Eric Roberts, there's Doris Roberts, and I have to assume what was one of the last roles. Who's there?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Is that a Baldwin I.C.? There's, well we'll get to him. There's Robert Lozia, playing hall cost survivor Michael Madsen. There's Daniel Margo Kitter Daniel Baldwin playing the most anti-Semitic character I've seen in a film at since Triumph of the Will. Yeah, there's Peter Coyote. There's all they like there's a real Coyote No, there's a Coyote from the road on our cartoons and I wanted to say that Dominique Swain is in it But in the end credits she's listed as Domek Swain So that's either a type of or it's just someone who looks like Dominique Swain. And that's a very similar name.
Starting point is 00:12:30 There must have been really awkward at the flashy red carpet from here. We're Dominique Swain showed up and they're like, I'm sorry, man, you're not on the look. Are you Domeek Swain? No, I'm Dominique Swain. Well, you're not in this film. But it's the story of two men one who We've got fall who through hard times falls on the wrong side of the tracks and takes the wrong road and one who is the greatest billionaire saint whoever lives although we assume to the beginning of the movie that it was a mobster just entirely based on the way he talks and Little Tales, he sleeps wearing a
Starting point is 00:13:03 Platinum watch and platinum bracelets and a huge pinky ring and gold chain and gold chains and like We're on from New Jersey. A big pinky ring means you're either in the mob or you want people to think you're in the mob. Yeah, So I got a ringo star visiting. So the I mean, yeah, he doesn't show up in New Jersey that often. I really wanted to have some of this pizza and so much about. What else do you do with New Jersey? Pretty much it. You want to go to a diner, sure, or you got a lot of them here on your turn bike.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You got to pay your dues if you want to play the blues. And what else do you pay your dues than a New Jersey? Yes. I decided to take the family down to Wildwood. Really? Okay, I mean, seems like you could afford to go somewhere much, much greater than that. You could take a swing by Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook, but he's anglicious.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I didn't get to be a beetle by throwing my money around. Maybe some guys can live like there's no tomorrow, John Lennon. But I can't. That was really tasteless of Uringo. That was a friend of yours, killed, wait before his time. Well, if you go to laugh about it, huh? And the one who's living off of his royalties, Ringo, this is a side of you. I never wanted to see. This is a dark star indeed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Bobbie Mingo star. You're going to treasure. So I just wanted to go down to Obokion and see Frank Sinatra's birth house. Other words that start with H. So I don't have to pronounce it. Now this movie begins with information about the housing crisis recited by a Barack Obama sound alike. That's up to debate. This is a controversy that's been raging since the film started. Because the, just because the sound like was so terrible.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And there's, and we're given no in film evidence that except that he refers to himself as a leader and says he won't let it happen again. The fact is that also like, Barack Obama's a real president who made real speeches. I don't remember him ever making that speech. I don't like, no. It's not, I don't, so it's, and Barack Obama doesn't show up as a character in the film.
Starting point is 00:15:08 So you saying that filmmakers never take historical liberties with things that while world leaders. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Stuart. Okay, just just writing this down in my own journal. That's exactly the only thing. That's right. Okay, so we're given probably what five straight minutes, six straight minutes. Yeah. Like stock footage of New York and just economic calamity. Yeah, graphs going down homeless people. Yeah, animated graphs going down for close signs being slapped on buildings while we hear this like speech by possibly Brock foe.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Mama. Good one. People in barrels selling apples. Mm hmm. Blind man with a cup full of pencils on a street corner. Yeah, you have, of course, stock broker throws himself out a window and lands on a couple doing the Charleston. And we're stuffing themselves in a phone booth.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Black ball sitting. You have sitting at the flag bowl. There's that a bowl of flags. I think he wouldn't know that. Or is that like the Super Bowl, but it's flag ball? Yeah, it's a good question. Because, because like the orange ball is a football game where they play with oranges and so balls.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Very messy. They got to stop the plays all the time because the balls have been squeezed too hard and just exploded. Yeah, yeah. So the movie starts with this guy, the, the angel of, we're set up to feel like this is going to be a real indictment of the housing crisis. Yeah, this is going to be about people who really are having trouble.
Starting point is 00:16:31 He's got a lot of big ideas in his mind. He's tying it into real world current events. I was expecting, you know, Steve Carole with a wacky haircut to show up and start shouting at bankers. Christian be able to just be listening to Metallica, will he drums on his desk. Now this takes place after the housing crisis as shown by the opening. And yet, later we see Dominique Swain smoking in a bar, which has been legal in New York since well before 2008.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Stuart, you're a barkeep. How do you explain this? You're a tavern owner. Well, that's a thing, like you can tell that the bartender and I'm hoping bar owner, Paul Sorvino in this movie. That would be really sad if he didn't know. Yeah, that's a thing. You can tell that the bartender and I'm hoping bar owner, Paul Sorvino in this movie. That would be really sad if he didn't know. Yeah, that he's like...
Starting point is 00:17:09 If Paul Sorvino was just a bar back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just works the day shift because he's not ready for the prime time. Well, the thing is that, as you can see, his only customers are these people. So he's like, I got a catered, more regular. I've been the rules. So we're introduced into the world of Eric Roberts, who's a banker, who is telling that work at 5.50 in the morning, it doesn't, he's talking to Michael
Starting point is 00:17:35 Perry from streets of fire. Yeah. Who is your average, every man who has the hair of a man in his 30s, even though he's wearing a 30-year-old wig. Yeah. Michael, here's the part where his character is this guy. As in watch jeans, too. He's in this foot upon every man who dresses like he's average, a little younger, and we're all in our mid to late
Starting point is 00:17:55 30s, and has a wife and a very young child, who's maybe about two years old, who is an enormous, like enormous baby. This is the biggest goddamn baby I've ever seen. He's wearing these fucking blue jeans. You see how I'm like, I saw the tag on those things. I'm like, those are bigger than my blue jeans. These blue jeans have all 40 waist.
Starting point is 00:18:15 But he's a, but so this, he was supposed to believe he's a man down on his luck with a young family, even though he's clearly, his children should be in college by this point. But I mean, that's why it's such a big baby. But the child's actually 17. But so he is being told by Eric Roberts. And we know it's early in the morning
Starting point is 00:18:32 because Eric Roberts interrupts this appointment to call another client and wakes the client up because it's 5.55 AM. So maybe this is one of those banks that's open early for people who have to go to work. I don't understand, you know, like certain doctor's offices are like that. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:18:49 I mean, I can almost understand him like calling someone that early in the morning if it's really important, maybe. But I can't understand him interrupting another like meeting with a bank person who has come in. Making the appointment better. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:03 You look at Eric Roberts and you see a guy who's clearly like a consmit professional who never does anything erratically. Certainly doesn't comb his hair like a crazy person. And loves to be up right and early in the morning, I'm sure. But he, I mean, this is a clear, we have to assume he did not go to bed. So he calls our, uh, Deanne, Frank the writer, director star who's in bed and tells him, you have to come. He's dripping with jewels and jams.
Starting point is 00:19:32 You have to come down to with jewels and jam. The classic French New Wave, the posters, DVD copies, the original screenplay, stills from the lobby cards. He tells him, oh, your company is getting an $8 million payment, that's a lot of money. There's these new rules you have to come down and sign for it yourself. But you have six to seven days to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:53 That's why I'm calling you so early in the morning. He then hangs up and then turns to his client and says, you haven't met your payments. We're taking your house away. He's like, I just wanted to do that call in the middle of you. I really rub it in that other people have more money than you. Just to show you.
Starting point is 00:20:08 What a power, man. This guy so much got so much money, he'll just stop by in a week maybe to pick up eight million bucks. The thing that's great is he calls this, this, uh, Frank D'Angelo's character Jimmy Valente. He calls him Jack Valente. He doesn't answer right away. Like he and his wife argue about how tired they are, and it's too early, they're not gonna pick up a phone.
Starting point is 00:20:28 They argue for a while now. And then Eric Roberts, like, you know what? I'm just gonna give him another shot. And he calls him a second time, and it finally gets him on the phone, and there we see our director, the first shot of him is lying in bed with the camera pointed directly up his nostrils.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And also, the first two scenes with this character, he talks to Eric Roberts on the phone, then he calls an employee of his to tell him he has to go down and sign this thing. Our director does not open his eyes, I think, once the entire time. He is sleeping through the starring role in his own film. Yeah, I mean, he's so into it. That's what's like, he so like kind of locked in and
Starting point is 00:21:05 keyed in. Yeah, and I guess it also shows us that he doesn't sweat the small stuff. He isn't going to let this ruin his sleep because here's the thing. He dresses like a gangster. He wears these big pinky rings, black leather jacket over black t-shirt with black pants. His wife tells him, oh, I bought you a nice suit. He goes, ah, that's not what I wear, but a, but a, and he's driving around everything about him, screams mobster. And I thought, okay, this is going to be a movie about a mobster who's breaking the law and succeeding. And an ordinary Joe who's trying to play by the rules and his failing to show that the system is rigged. Oh, contrary, it turns out that he is not a mobster. He is a successful businessman who's also the greatest
Starting point is 00:21:41 man in the world. But we'll get to that. Yes, he's a man who only eats one big meal a day, he says. And he likes, and it's made very clear when he meets with his executives in what is certainly not the only free room in a, in a, in a, oh my god. It's clearly like, I mean, like it might be his office space because it's all, I mean, like if it's not his products, his products are all over the walls. Yes, products are all over the walls. It's all energy drinks and walls., if it's not his products are all over the walls. Yes, products are all over the walls. It's all energy joint. Those could be his characters products.
Starting point is 00:22:06 A lot of this movie also we should mention was shot clearly in a hotel lobby, hotel restaurant and hotel banquet room. And hotel, it's like, it's very poorly disguised. Are you talking about how the New York police department seems to share an office with like a marketing company? Yeah. And interrogates people at what is clearly the breakfast buffet area. seems to share an office with like a marketing company. And interrogates people at what is clearly the breakfast buffet area of the hotel,
Starting point is 00:22:31 that the bank and also his wife's tea room that she goes to visit appear to be the same bank with Hall in the hotel. Everywhere looks like lobbies. I mean, his boardroom where this, you know, like, very wealthy guy doesn't worry about money. The boardroom for his company, which is a very large building with a name that is, I mean, it's so high tech
Starting point is 00:22:54 that they literally have the name like, drawn on in Photoshop basically. A CGI is the name, man. He's the guy. His boardroom has like a cork board. With printouts that say like sales force winner, 2014, just, just up on it. It's, it's a real mix of what we're supposed to be taking from the film and what we're actually taking from the film. But anyway, so while Frank to Angelo is, is ride and high, except he's got to go through the trouble of the has to go through the trouble of signing for this payment of eight million dollars. This
Starting point is 00:23:30 other guy what was his name Nikki Mickey Ryan Mickey Ryan. The ordinary show. He can't find work. He can't afford his house. His wife hates him. She screams at him to get to the baby. The baby loves him because he's great. She's like many women in this movie has a nightstand covered in empty booze bottles. Every woman except Frank D'Angelo's wife in this is an alcoholic shrill harpy except for Frank D'Angelo's wife and the best-selling author slash expert on hostage situations who appears on the news later. Can't seem to stop grinning while reporting on a hostage situation. But we'll get to that, Dan, you had what I wanted to say. Is it about how Mickey can't even afford a hot dog
Starting point is 00:24:09 with soda, yes, to just get the hot dog? If he can't afford to pay the extra dollar for his drink. No, I just need four dollars, dude, for a hot dog and a drink. That's fucking crazy. And he says, how much for the hot dog? $3. $3 for a street hot dog?
Starting point is 00:24:22 That should be a $2 dog. Oh, man. And Toronto pretending to be New York. Well, let me just say one thing. I recently paid $10 for a street hot dog. That should be a $2 dog. Only in Toronto pretending to be new. You're let me to say one thing. I recently paid $10 for a hot dog. It was at an airport. There's always a markup. I was like, you know what? I'm used to paying. You pay $15.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Hot dog in airport. Here's why because I got a hand right at my son wanted a hot dog. This hot dog arrived. It was easily 15 inches long and it was delicious. And I'll tell you this. So you're like, uh, sir, I'd like to return this hamburger and pay the additional $3 to the hot dog option. You're going to be on use portion of this hamburger. Correct. And I want you to apply that credit to the hot dog. I'll pay the rest. We'll be like a book. So here's my tip for those who are interested.
Starting point is 00:25:07 If you're ever in the Phoenix Airport, just go ahead and get a hot dog. Okay, what's the, what was the purveyor of this hot meat? Don't remember. It's hot beef and chicken. Oh wow. Don't remember. It was just such sweet and broge I couldn't hold it in my memory.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah, yeah, it's clouded the memories. So anyway, that was Elliot Kaylin's hot dogs hot dog adventure story. The hot dog diaries. Yeah, yeah, it's clouded the memories. So, anyway, that was Elliot Kaylin's Hot Dog Story. Hot Dog Adventure Story. The Hot Dog Diaries. Yeah. I wrote that in an email and said, it's a David Hot Dog Govney. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah. And he reads it while walking a hot dog on a page. Yeah, because the scarier that she was, David Reds you Covney. He thought that was so good. So, you don't know that it isn't. So, Dan, you wanted to say something about Mickey or Down Trident here. No, all I wanted to say was, like, I don't know that it isn't. So Dan, you wanted to say something about Mickey or Down Trot in here.
Starting point is 00:25:47 No, all I wanted to say was like, he's got a great head of hair. Oh my God. His wife has no sympathy for him in this eviction process. She's blames him. She's a loser. Yeah, well, this is just like, this is what I want to say. Everybody in Mickey's life appears to blame him for his misfortune. Yeah, and now we don't know whether he deserves that.
Starting point is 00:26:08 There's no backstory. And we know that at least at one point he was financially supporting his brother and his brother. Which we find out later. At first we see him as just like a loser. There's brother who seems to be allergic to shirts. Oh, boy. And if there's one guy who should be wearing a shirt, he's just like, hey, I've never... Like, I've... Like, this might be a wearing a shirt, he's just going, hey. I've never, like, I'm, like,
Starting point is 00:26:25 this might be a harsh indictment of Hollywood's Beauty Standards, but I've never seen as big a pot belly. And, I mean, that was not a pot belly. It was a cauldron belly. Like, it was barrel chested, and that barrel was bulging. It was a bit, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Bachelors and barrel. You could have hollowed out that barrel chest and put it on you because you're bored and you lost everything in the stockmore, you grash. Casting notes say toad-like. Okay. Now I feel like we've gone too far. Yeah, the... So the thing is... We're looking for a middle-aged man actor for this role. Description, if the lead boss bad guy from Super Mario 2 was a person.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It was sort of like, king hippo type. OK, we're talking about too far. He's had a long acting career. And like his wife, she says, you know, your son's never going to grow up to be like you, which is like, no shit. He's already fully grown. She's going to leave him and not share the circus earnings of her giant baby, baby man.
Starting point is 00:27:31 So the only place Mickey can find solace is at Alfies, Paul Sravino's bar, where the only other customers seem to be Dominique Swain as. As girl who just stands in front of the dukebox. As a cussy number one, she's Michael Madsen's girlfriend, I guess. Michael Madsen who is playing the part of low life sleaze bag. And Daniel Baldwin who is playing the most anti-Semitic character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I've seen in any movies that's not about World War Two or about skinheads in years. When you're watching one of these cash crab performances, you're assuming like they're in and out, they're just doing it for the bucks. But it feels like Daniel Baldwin's like, okay, sure, yeah, what do you want me to say? I'll say that for money. Call Jewish people what lampshades?
Starting point is 00:28:20 That's a point of saying. And one of my first ones is he talks about how, he says, well, comes between Monday and Wednesday, Jews day. That's when they take everything from you. These Jews run in the bank, stealing everything from us. And it's like, wow,
Starting point is 00:28:32 he throws the K word around a budget time. And it's like, I don't even remember, I don't even remember, maybe it's just because they don't hang out with like a bunch of anti-Semites and bars. But I don't remember. You haven't lived, man.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Remember the financial crisis being blamed specifically on like the Jewish people. I mean, I'm sure I'm sure anti-Semites did. Yeah. There were a lot of Jewish people involved in those companies. I mean, Lehman Brothers is a Jewish name, you know. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Everyone, yeah. I mean, I'm not a good person. Yeah, I'm not a good person. I mean, I'm not a good person. I mean, I'm not a good person. I mean, I'm not a good person. I mean, I that was because the Domanski Whits family sued them for a piece of the action. But it comes out of nowhere. And it's like, wait, I thought this movie
Starting point is 00:29:11 was gonna be about the financial crisis. I didn't know it was gonna be about racism. And Daniel Baldwin really throws himself into this anti-stomatic part. It's very weird. And he looks enough like Alec Baldwin that if you kind of squint your eyes a little bit, you could imagine Alec Baldwin saying that.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. And I think the believer had this much open anti-Semitism in it. I'd also like to point out that Michael Madsen and Daniel Baldwin are wearing the same shirts and two successive scenes that are supposed to take place on different days. Yeah, but they're super low lives, dude. Yeah, they only have two shirts, you know what?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Because they're shoes to the other ones. What's your first shirt? The only one? The only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's the only one's you know why? Because the Jews took the other one's early Jewish tailors won't the charge in too much for shirts. Yeah. So yeah. So also that scene featured Dominik's way, Dominik's way in playing the jukebox. We'd seen her earlier in a scene where she gets super weird interactions throwing herself at Jimmy Valente at one point. And so Jimmy Valente is driving down the street. He gets out and he accidentally bumps into Mickey and knocks him down. Once again, their paths cross.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, it's like a dickens novel. And so he helps him up, hey man, you okay? You look like you got the weight of the world on your shoulders. All right, we'll be good. Thus establishing, he adheres about everybody he sees. He's such a sweet man. He's got such an open heart.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Well, that end like in his business meeting, he's like very keen on telling the people like, whatever charity we give to, I want to make sure that the money goes to the actual people and not the administrative thoughts. 80 to 90%. And the guy who is handling the charity just keeps saying, I know that's how you roll Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So that's the, yeah, that's the thing I don't care of it. I know that I know how you roll. So and it is like yeah, that's the thing I don't care of it I know that I know how you roll so and it is like a He's trying that out. It's like a boy. I'm like a show to play. He's like, I'm gonna try and be a little Hipper and maybe Jimmy will recognize that. I like this new thing that kids are saying how you roll Because it's like that's you know what? I like a good roll. Yeah, sometimes let me just be honest Like true confessions here. I'm like, okay, father, I've sinned. When I go to the restaurant, sometimes, what I'm really looking forward to is the
Starting point is 00:31:09 role. Not even the main course or the dessert. It's crazy. I know, but that's just how I roll. I'm going to use it in the meeting tomorrow, okay, honey? And his wife is like, go to bed. It's three in the morning. Please stop. Stop talking about roles. Every night with the role. This will be the one time in the movie that a woman is justifiably angry at the man. Let me go to bed. Stop talking about roles. So he's just a sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:31:33 He's just a honey pie. And long story short, they meet at their, Mickey stays with his brother. And his brother's wife says, I want that loser out of my fucking house. He's a fucking loser, you're a fucking loser, he's a piece of shit. This is in a great scene in a bedroom where
Starting point is 00:31:49 that's where we're introduced to the idea that this move is like these characters are just not gonna wear very many clothes. No, you used to it, but. The brother who's an older gentleman is just sitting there in almost no clothes. And so the next day he says, you gotta leave, she doesn't want you here
Starting point is 00:32:04 and Mickey's like, I supported you for two years. Now you're throwing me out. And so he's got no choice. The only people who care about him are Michael Max and Daniel Baldwin. What, why did they, why was the brother character shirtless in that scene? This is the morning. I mean, he couldn't just toss one on. I mean, if you're going to be throwing somebody out like, you're going gonna have that kind of hard conversation, you don't wanna like throw something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Sometimes when I will go over to your house, your wand or your round of your underwear. Yeah, but that's, I guess that's the same thing. It's a power place. But it's a power place. Like you wanna show off. You wanna be like, who's the big guy around here? It's an intimidation technique.
Starting point is 00:32:39 The way like Lyndon Johnson would call people into the bathroom with him, you'd think that would put him in the shameful position. No, no, no. He's making you feel uncomfortable. So what his brother Joe was saying is, hey, this is me. This is me naked to the world. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:56 That should make me vulnerable, but it makes you uncomfortable. I'm comfortable with my body, all of it. You're the one who's not comfortable with it. Shame on you. Get out of my house because my wife told me you have to leave. But it's system lies another person calling Mickey a loser. We also get Mickey's mom calling him a loser. He goes to his mom. He goes to a bingo parlor where his mom, Mark the Kitter, is playing bingo with Doris Roberts. And he asked
Starting point is 00:33:20 for her for help and she refuses. Doris Roberts has a heartbreaking monologue about her son died of heroin, a died of suicide after a heroin addiction. Which she repeats twice. He wants to whip Argo Kitter out of the room and wants with her back in the room. And, but he's got nowhere to turn except these two anti-semites. He joins their group. He doesn't get his head totally shaved,
Starting point is 00:33:40 but it gets a lot of fun. It's a really great, it's this great transformative moment where we are greeted to flashbacks to scenes from earlier. No, just how, how, how, how, just like, about that, the devil note when the devil, uh, what's the, devil knows your dead? What was that? Before the devil knows that. Before the devil knows your dead style, where it's just like pop, pop, shots from the past, shots from the past. But it's like, they're all like these gauzy,
Starting point is 00:34:05 like it's like in the early 90s, like R&B music. Well, because that's what the music is, when it comes in, then there's some kind of love song, right? Yeah, I mean, most of the love song from No Deposits. The love theme from No Deposits. It sounds like the kind of love song you would hear in an 80s action movie that's clearly like, kind of from the 50s or 60s
Starting point is 00:34:26 and you're like, I guess cool people listen to this when they're like about to hook up. But he's getting his head shaved and a tattoo put on his neck. Yeah, they call a tattoo artist and for some reason it's a bar. Yeah, yeah. That's gotta be against health code. I would have to assume so.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I mean, there's blood coming out of his body in a place that people are ingesting drinks. So at Paul's Reveno, we already let people smoke in there. He doesn't care about the rules. He does. Well, that's the thing. He's got a, he's got a, keep his regular's happy. Yeah. And so they instantly go, he instantly goes from just a normal guy down in his luck to a skinhead who is robbing a bank with Michael Madsen and Daniel Baldwin. That bank full of Jewish people. Yep. and it's very Jewish. Very clearly in the conference center of a large or to mid-size hotel.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Ironically, this movie that was trying to make a stance against anti-semitism was doing something anti-Semitic itself by taking up a ballroom that should have had a bar mitzvah in it. Some unlucky Toronto Jewish boy had to have his bar mitzvah at the synagogue because they couldn't Couldn't rent the event space at the local Hilton Honors Hotel, I guess I know I'm very mixed up about what the movies feelings about the Jewish people are Like because they because they're only shown in banks. Yeah, I mean, I think that we're supposed to not
Starting point is 00:35:43 sympathize with the Antisemitic talk but at the same time, it's not really refuted particularly strongly either. Well, I feel like the movie doesn't really need to refute that. I guess. I don't think the movie needs to show a Jewish person being great so that the audience is like, oh, Daniel Baldwin
Starting point is 00:35:59 was wrong about that. But like, Jews aren't evil. Our hero doesn't even turn around. He's just like, at the end of the movie, he's just like, I wanna go home. I don't, you know, it's wrong to shoot people. You don't want to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It is wrong. Are you, and you disagree with the message, it's wrong to shoot people? Well, I don't think that it's particularly more wrong to shoot one type of person than another type of person. Oh, all lives matter. Hurt it here first.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Oh, wow, Dan, wow. It's just, who'd, oh my god, just for wanting to take. You know what, delete it. You. Oh wow Dan. Wow. Oh my god. Just for wine the tape. You know what? Delete it. You shown your true colors. The. All right. So this is where the confluence of events leads us to the ultimate showdown because Jimmy Valenti has shown up to the bank to pick up his eight million dollars and or sign orders. Just to sign the papers because apparently that's the thing you have to do now. Eric Roberts comes out from behind the desk. He is a clown. He is a jeeter.
Starting point is 00:36:47 He is a walk-in like a man with one and a half legs. That was that CBS sitcom, right? One and a half legs. That's when our villains walk in. Shoot a security guard in the head instantly. Immediately. Immediately. And actually, it looks like a pretty decent use of special Yeah, that was a pretty good special they also wrap a giant link length of
Starting point is 00:37:12 chain around the doors which we later see does not prevent people from opening the doors open from the outside later the chain falls off armless legs love soft like a snake skin now we didn't mention that there's also two policemen who I think are both named Tony, who are called in by... And it is for no particular reason. Called in by police chief Peter Coyote, who tells them in his Ken Burns tones
Starting point is 00:37:37 that he knows they've been working really hard, he needs them to work another shift. Even though they're owed a day off, they've been working on the fox case for for days and that the media's howling down his throat and there's so much stuff going on the city that he needs them to work two more days this is in his office in the police station that is to work mentioned also has a business group of some kind sharing the office and there's a poster in the in the
Starting point is 00:37:59 hallway that seems to be like either an ad or an employee of the month or something like that judging by their, these two detectives just recently transferred from Saskatchewan. Oh, everyone in the movie except for the name stars is very much Brooklyn by way of Canada. Yeah. Yeah. And are it's like, what's the matter? A. Yeah. I was walking a boot here. Anyway, but that's the size. So they're on, these guys take hostages at the bank. They especially don't like that the Jewish people are there. But then the anti-Semitic stuff kind of takes a back seat. It doesn't really appear that much.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Well, first, the criminals, knock Eric Robertson and kick him a bunch. And each time they hit him, they use fully effects of like eggs breaking. This is craziest thing I've seen in a eggs breaking. It's the craziest thing I've seen in a real movie. It's like he's got empty, like he took a bunch of eggs and pulled the yoke out without breaking the shell and then stuffed it all in his pants. So that each kick is like crunch. Crunch. And I mean, there was still like a little Jewish stuff though when like our hero or
Starting point is 00:39:07 The Frank D'Angelo, right? That's his name. Jimmy Pellante. Yeah, he Get shot by one of the guys when he's trying to defend a young girl and The grand daughter I'm assuming or possibly daughter out No, no Robert Losea who is playing a Holocaust survivor, but that I am a daughter, I'm assuming, or possibly daughter. I don't know what kind of logic is going to be. I'm a rapper loja. A rapper loja who is playing a Holocaust survivor. But Mickey's like, what?
Starting point is 00:39:30 He's not a Jew. We were like, we're here to shoot Jewish people. That's right, I forgot about that. So yeah, they're a rapper loja that's right. He goes, I've seen the devil. You're nothing. And he rolls up his sleeve. He's got numbers tattooed on his arm.
Starting point is 00:39:44 He's a survivor. Now, I up his sleeve, he's got numbers tattooed on his arm, he's a survivor. Now, I don't know if it's better or worse that he does not attempt to do any sort of Eastern European accent. He's apparently a halt, maybe he came over as a kid or a teenager and he worked really hard to get his accent away. He was so traumatized by his time in the camps, but this... I don't know, he seems pretty comfortable with himself and kind of self-assured.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Like, I don't feel like he would try and hide anything. I guess, I mean, there's no obfuscation with where the relationship forms. But the confidence may come from the fact that he's like, I recreated myself in my life and I didn't let that tragedy define me. Because if I've learned anything from meeting Holocaust survivors,
Starting point is 00:40:22 it's that one, the Holocaust was terrible. And two, and either, I mean, there's, this comes down to terrible. There's really there's two types, those who never want to talk about and those who want to talk about nothing else. And there's two, there are people who are shattered by it. And then there are survivors
Starting point is 00:40:38 who kind of seem to take confidence in a way from it that like I survived the worst possible thing that could ever happen to a person and that didn't destroy me so I can handle anything. And so like he's the second type I guess and that he's like, you know what, I'm not going to let this bank robbery get to me because I stared down Hitler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael Manson and one of the Baldwin's are not going to put me down.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And they punch him and he goes you punch like a girl and later he gets the best line in the movie uh... after everything's taking care of he goes uh... for also frankl and angel gets shot he recognizes that they this is the guy i picked up off the sidewalk before and and who know and he that the guy goes hey he helped me i'm gonna take him in another room they have a little heart to heart frank angel says i guess the moral of the movie.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And that's the most... It's nice to be great, but it's great to be nice. But that's the moment when the other bank robbers are like, Oh yeah, our possibly susceptible coercion friend. We were able to turn to our cause in under a day. Yeah, let's let him go in the other room with that incredibly handsome and charismatic wounded man. Yeah, I mean, the handsome part.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Super tall and wealthy. But I also just wonder what they're doing out there. Just like, all right, well, you go in the back for a while, we'll just keep standing here with a guy. Especially because they don't seem to want money, but then by this point, the police are surrounding the bank. Yeah. And also, the massive crowd forming between the bank
Starting point is 00:42:00 and the expansive tree line of downtown Brooklyn. Yeah. Downtown Brooklyn really seems to have a lot of wooded highway access. It was interesting enough that it was in that crowd scene that I finally was like, oh, there's a non-white person in Brooklyn apparently. Because the first people of color showed up.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And meanwhile, we're getting a lot of news reports from what was the guy's name? Frank Ambrosio, I think it was. Frank Ambrosio. Ambrosio. And his, and his, it's Frank Ambrosio to his friends. Yeah, and his, his report on the scene,
Starting point is 00:42:33 which his name I think was Fred Lebco. Matthew Lesco. And this is a movie where we see everything that's happening. We know the backstory of these characters. It cuts to a news break and we watch for a while, like three minutes, a reporter explained that he doesn't really know what's going on with the situation. We don't even see the reporter's face. We don't watch realistic, but we don't need to see that in a movie.
Starting point is 00:42:54 We're watching the anchor just listening to it and it's like, did they want the audience to jump in and fill in the reporter on what's going on? Yeah. Meanwhile, all of the people in Mickey's life are watching this tragedy unfold. His wife sees it at the fancy tea room where she's meeting her friend. No, Mickey's wife. No, Mickey's wife is the circus with the Jimmy Bay. Mickey's wife is not interested.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I know Frank's wife sees it. Mickey's mom sees it. Mickey's brother sees it, which finally gives him the strength to stand up to his wife in the best scene of the movie. Yeah, I say delivers in the best line. I've said earlier, in the last line, I was wrong. Joe has the best line.
Starting point is 00:43:31 His wife goes, your loser brother's robbing a bank, and she already said, like, hey, go get me some more fucking vodka. If you can handle that, you'll lose her. So she talks to him all the time. And he goes,
Starting point is 00:43:42 what, my brother is in trouble robbing a bank and Stewart do you want to deliver his is Closing Jan wants to deliver it. I don't know if I remember it exactly but it's something like I sold out my brother for pussy And you're a Floating what he said after he fucking spikes the vodka bottle on the ground. She's like hey fucking spikes the vodka bottle on the ground. She's like, hey, you might want to do a explicit language, a special warning on this. Yeah. Because that word, the sea word, when I don't like to say, but it is hilarious. It escalates the movie suddenly to a, like, it goes from like 60 to 100. And you're like, wait, what did he just say? It would be terrible. Some
Starting point is 00:44:22 plucky listener took an audio clip of dancing saying that I don't know turned it into something like a ringtone. Oh boy. And so the next time we see Joey's talking to a policeman again in the in the police station slash hotel restaurant and he's he's establishing what we already know that his brother lost everything. He lost his house and the cops like wait, he lost his house. He lost his family. His baby, his house. So they took his house away. He lost his house, his house. He lost it. They lost his house.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Where he lives with his family? It's like they spent the phrase he lost his house has spoken so many times, but back to the bank robbery. So to make a long story short. So that, but that, that conversation they're having in that breakfast breakfast nook in that in that booth that they're sharing that's apparently the hot box in the police department. The that scene clearly shows this detective sitting down with the brother and he's like, Oh, wow, your brother's a bad guy. And then by the end of the he's like, he lost his house. No, he's clearly a hero. Yeah. Yeah, he turns around.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Meanwhile, and I think that same policeman is also supposed to be at the bank at the exact same time. Yeah, yeah. The swan team is there. They're fair. They're next door to each other. The bank, the police station makes sense. You want to put the banks somewhere safe.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And the tea room is next door to that. It's New York's really a small town. And Alphys bar is right next door. Just because of the neighborhood story. Yeah, yeah, that's true. What neighborhood of Brooklyn was this, by the way? It's a... You're gonna say Baroque Park, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's, Wish doesn't exist. Yeah. You're gonna be like, Dragon Wick. Dragon Wick. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:57 So, they make a long story short about the highest, because the highest, the tossage situation, not actually that interesting, well, it's pretty funny, but shooting happens. The got Mickey gets shot. Frank has already been shot through the shoulder.
Starting point is 00:46:11 A guy who it turns out to be. Frank Gaines is all planning Jimmy for like, oh, sorry, Jimmy is all, yeah, it's so hard to tell him apart. He's already established. He's one of five. He's one of one where one begins and one ends. As bona fide says, a great man because Mickey says, hey, let him go. You can go.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And he goes, I could go, but my balls wouldn't come along for the ride or something like that. He wouldn't be a man if he walked out of that situation. And so at the last moment, even though he's been shot in the shoulder, he uses that hand to pick up a gun and shoot the two robbers after they've already shot. Yeah, there's a plain clothes cop there that tries to enter seed and Frank D'Angelo's character pulls him down so that he doesn't get shot and then kills both make rovers.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Now, not since the taking a poem one to three of my favorite movie, has there been a less effective undercover cop? It just jumps out. I'm a cop and then immediately gets either shot or pulled to the ground. Frank D'Angelo, Jimmy, Valenti, slash Frank D'Angelo is a saint, is a hero.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Robert Lozia delivers what I thought was the first best line until I remember Joe's argument with his wife. The second best line of the movie, which is bring a, bring a stretcher for this good man. Get garbage bags for these pieces of shit. And they, the hospital beds are wheeled out. And then everyone seems to have forgotten that Mickey was part of the the hostage situation by this time.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And because they're like that's how they pitch it though like they like say literally like these two guys Well, it's hostage and they like I'm like what what do you mean these two guys? There was a third man Another favorite of mine. Who knows? Because the most important thing is that these guys who both have been shot, they both need medical attention. Their structures are allowed to sit right outside the entrance of the bank while every character they know rushes through the police line and has a moment with them.
Starting point is 00:47:59 They allow Paul Serfino, his bartender to's come up in a little bedside moment. Not his mom, but his mom's friend from the Bingo Farler runs up to have a moment with him. And tell her she loves him. Mario Ketter was in some bushes somewhere. She couldn't be bothered. Oh. Paul Sorvino is the new story with those three guys
Starting point is 00:48:18 robbing the bank. He was just kidding, Mario Ketter. Yeah. Oh, so, sorry, is he? So Paul Sorvino sees this new story of these three guys having robbed the bank and he goes You can see that look on his face where he's like, oh shit. They're my only customers I've been a curry favor with the only guy left the only survivor. Otherwise, it just me and Dominique Swain
Starting point is 00:48:36 I'm sorry, Dominique Swain. Yep. He's playing some weird song in the jukebox and dancing along now Also, this is all while Frank D'Angelo's cover of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah's Plank, and to a parade of Orthodox Jews walk out of the bank, I assume thanking God that a man like Jimmy Valenti was created. And it's thanks to Watchmen that this is the second worst use of that song in a movie. And after that, that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:49:06 There's something I was going to go. There's no code or anything. Oh, I remember what it was. Jimmy like asks, he's being wheeled out, tells Eric Roberts to pay off that he's going to pay off. Right. Mickey's a houch. And it's just like, well, that's a nice gesture, but Mickey's clearly going to jail for a very
Starting point is 00:49:23 long time. I don't know why. And I don't know why. He suggested that he also pay for his legal fees, but that doesn't, that's not going to help the fact that like he still doesn't have a job. He still, I mean, is pretty easily convinced into doing bad things. Like he has a neck tattoo now. Like that doesn't go away.
Starting point is 00:49:40 That's permanent, dude. I mean, you can get those removed. I assume Jimmy's going to pay that bill also. He's going to pay to get his neck tattoo removed. He's going to adopt him. He's got his nose. His award. At that point, he's just going to be cut. We already think that Jimmy has like a driver slash gofer who's obsessed with keeping Jimmy's car clean. And when he goes up to him, he says, I apologize. I didn't have a chance to clean the car. I expected him to just pull out his sword and commit sepaku right there in front of Yeah, he is so apologetic because
Starting point is 00:50:05 Well, and he is wearing he is wearing a ponytail So you assume that he's way into highlander the movie You have to assume like Jimmy Vellante is such a living saint people love him so much that when they fail him even in the slightest It they they hurt it hurts them. Yeah, all their misdeeds are reflected upon them like the penance there They feel like goes right. So when he's told that he has to go sign for this loan and he goes to, not loan, this payment and he goes to his office, they go, oh yeah, these new rules payroll should have dealt with it, but they didn't, he goes, hey, everyone makes mistakes.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Don't yell at payroll about it. Don't make them feel bad. We'll just send out a memo saying these are the rules now. Tell him a majority. So like that's, he's just the sweetest boss in the world. And the moral of the story is that Frank D'Angelo by extension must be a great man. And the moral of the story is you should go on and watch this movie. Just watch it.
Starting point is 00:50:57 If you want to watch this crazy passion project that is a love letter to him. And the movie ends with a bunch of slow-mo, black and white sequence shots of all the characters, all the big stars that we've seen in the movie. He almost, I think maybe that I was way to find the least flattering picture of almost all of them. Eric Roberts' is him crying with blood dripping out of his nose.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Crawling around the floor, mourning the loss of his testicles. So, where as the loss of his testicles. Whereas the picture of Frankie Angelo in there is beatific almost like Peter Paul Rubin's painted the shit. Yeah, so we should do our final judgments about this movie whether it's a good bad movie, a bad bad movie or movie, kind of like, is there any doubt? Stu, I feel like you, this is a good, great movie. Is there any doubt? Stu, I feel like you, this is a good, great movie.
Starting point is 00:51:44 This is a movie where the financier of the movie, the writer, director, star, not only plays this awesome businessman, but he also, I think it's approached while on a stretcher having been shot by the chief of police who basically is like, you want the key to the city and you can be chief of police if you want because you're the best shot I've ever seen. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And he acts like a gangster, dresses like a gangster. No, turns out he's the best of us. You start watching this movie and you're like, okay, this is pretty slow. And you know, it takes a little bit of time before it starts cooking. Well, that's just sick. That's the first five minutes of Info Dump. That's something that we didn't mention is that the movie takes a really long time to set up everything before like the hostage situation and the hostage situation like starts and is resolved in like half an hour when that pockets boil and
Starting point is 00:52:34 yum yum yum and this is an 80 minute movie right yeah that's the other thing we should mention go watch this movie book block you have 80 minutes I'm sure block out an hour and a half for it and then spend the last 10 minutes masturbating enjoy that such a thing exists as this Weird vanity projects. Yeah, no, I I think this is a good bad movie the one thing that like helps me back a little bit Is like the weird anti-Semitism of the movie like it feels like an off note in the same way that like there a lot of I Feel like good bad or trashy movies out there that like throw in or rape scene and you're like, why is this in here? I just ruined the movie. But for the most part, it's not enough to be like.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I find it's just another, it's just another weirdo thread in the crazy quilt that is this film. And it's okay, I'm saying this, I'm Jewish, it's okay for you to watch this. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I guess. He's okay, I'm saying this. I'm Jewish. It's okay for you to watch this. Oh, wow, yeah, yeah. I'm giving you a gatekeeper here, Dan. Anyone who's not Jewish, I'm giving you official permission. Okay. So no deposit. You're looking at the DVD again to make sure that was the right name.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yeah, it's not hard to remember because it has nothing to do with the soundtrack. The soundtrack is a different name. Look to the stars or something. Look into the stars. Look into the stars. Which is a good way to go blind. Yeah, but it's also like if you look at the cover of the box, it's just covered in stars. Mugs, shirts, stickers, patches, tanks, and more are yours for the purchasing at maxfunstore.com. Hey, you already love the podcasts, so why not take this to the next level and outfit your home and bud with our merch. maxfunstore.com, because if you have to wear a shirt, it should be one of ours.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Next up, we do a few... Have you seen this show before? And you think after, you know, I didn't bring it up in August, even though I should have, but August marked the nine year anniversary of the stupid podcast. Nice. I wasn't here for all that time, but I'm still going to take credit for it. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:54:39 You were there for most of it. Like, ain't happy. Yeah. Some of it. That's crazy. You know, that's a popular anniversary to celebrate nine years. Yeah. We should get each other at a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:54:53 So that would be nice. We've been doing this podcast longer than either Stewart or I have been married. Yeah. We've been doing this podcast longer than... It's damn at this point. Wait, no, that's not true. It's not actually true. We've been... We will, that's not true. It's not actually true
Starting point is 00:55:05 We've been we will we will reach that point. Yeah, yeah, but it's longer than What Barack Obama's president that's true. Yeah, yeah, it was a different nation when we started this People leave it to laugh. They needed to laugh That's a crazy amount of time to be doing this. What year was that? 2007 was when. A little movie called Stealth. Graced my DVD player in the bedroom in the apartment I shared with two other people. And I stuffed a single rock band microphone in a homemade shock absorber that I've made
Starting point is 00:55:42 from playing some rubber bands. Oh, that's weird, because everyone is commented that those early episodes had amazing sound quality. That's not great. So I revisit them so often. Yeah. Don't listen to the early episodes, guys. So many memories.
Starting point is 00:55:54 So that's a long, long time. This is the longest I've done almost anything except live. Okay. Now that I've juiced this up, what's the next stage in this game? Ads, which is to say, the Piper. That's a flop house. Now years don't come cheap. Yeah, the flop house is supported by Squarespace, the simplest way to create a compelling website.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And the strange, the downright bizarre, great stories to find us, you should tell yours, with simple tools and templates. Squarespace helps you capture your story with a captivating website. Now Dan, I got a question about Squarespace. Okay. I've got an idea for a website. I kind of mentioned it earlier. It's called www.teenageviewingingetartlets.org.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And it's these new crazy characters, they're the toilets. They're also teenagers who are mutants and they're ninjas. Not work. And it's these new crazy characters, the toilets, they're also teenagers who are mutants and they're ninjas. And I want to, I figured, you know what? Don't bother with TV, TV's broken. Thanks to people cutting cords, left and right, and they're streaming stuff. And it shouldn't cut those cords.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I mean, like the cords aren't the problem. You got to cut the cord. Yeah, so cord's. Baby's born. You can't just leave it attached. Yeah, that's crazy. That's nuts. You want to wait to cord. Yeah, so of course. Baby is born. Okay. You can't just leave it attached. Yeah, that's crazy. That's nuts. You want to wait until the last jolt some blood or pumped through that cord.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Oh, well. Because that's the super strength blood. Mm-hmm. Then you cut the shit out of that thing. Yeah. You put on that Freddie glove and you go, that's all they do. It's a girl bitch. Welcome to the world bitch.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I could say that is my kid. Actually, that makes it even worse. It's crazy What's he doing? I just glad that Freddie settled down and started a family who is a child molester So it's not great a child murderer, right? Don't they but that's where they burned his house down Right, I guess you're right. Maybe he's just a child murderer. You know what we're saying is you're sorry Freddie You're merely a child murderer. I apologize But it's called, so anyway, I want to just get on the web and start streaming these original animated web series
Starting point is 00:57:50 about these Ninja toilets. Can Squarespace help me with that kind of site? It certainly can. And that's all I have to say about that. Will it make the site look the same on like a phone or on a desktop or on a laptop? It's the different devices. Yeah, it's got what you call the responsive design.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That's great. That's great. And how do they support our show and support Squarespace? Well, you can start your free trial today by visiting squarespace.com slash flop. You should Squarespace. So you're saying you're going to hide, you're gonna have like the bios of these Ninja Turrets
Starting point is 00:58:28 available for anybody, but you're gonna hide all the videos, the hot vids, behind a paywall, right? No, no, no, no, no. Because you don't want anybody to just see that shit. Information wants to be free, and there's no better information than toilets fighting crime.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Okay. With Ninja Lens. So you're gonna make money based on ads. It's gonna be, it's gonna be ad supported and also internet equals cash dollar signs. Okay. With Ninja. You're going to make money based on ads. It's going to be it's going to be ads supported and also internet equals cash dollar signs. Okay. I'll figure it out. I'll figure out how to monetize this idea. I mean, the money's just going to come flowing in. But mostly yeah. And you'll take a big bag and write a dollar sign on it to cash all the money. So I know what's in it. Yeah. Put it right next to your disk drive for when the money squirts out. The flop house is also. The flop house is also supported in part by Mac Weldon,
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Starting point is 01:01:15 You can get 20% off using the promo code a lot Perfect go buy him you will not be unsatisfied Thank you for your support. And now we got some jumbo trunks. Jumbo trunks. Oh, damn, punch that up. Okay. Okay. So I got the first, no, I think Eley it's gonna go first okay i'll go first this is a personal message this is a message for milisa truio from dillin truio and parentheses her awesome little brother
Starting point is 01:01:53 says happy birthday i know you'll love the gift of the peaches saying happy birthday i'm a person hey and a little that will ellie it's a song maybe happy birthday to you Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, shit. You just gotta polish wet. So, once he doesn't have a beer. You're the best and you're welcome for showing. Oh, that didn't work.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And you're welcome for showing you this great podcast. And oh, and you're welcome for showing you this great, and well, I don't know. Anyway, so in a way, oh no, it should be, so you're welcome. Oh, you know what? Oh boy, this is falling apart. Tillin, you gotta put some quotes in there,
Starting point is 01:02:44 some comments, now I know how to read it. is falling apart. Dylan, you gotta put some quotes in there, some comments. Now I know how to read it. And you're welcome for showing you this great podcast. So in a way, I am also the best. To the both of us, seriously, I love you and you're an amazing sister. Rarow, Rarow. Dylan.
Starting point is 01:02:56 So happy birthday, Melissa. That's so sweet from a brother to a sister. You never, you don't really see a lot of that kind of sibling commitment. I often forget to tell my sister happy birthday and we share a birthday. Yeah. It is impossible for me to forget sister. You never, you don't really see a lot of that kind of sibling commitment. I often forget to tell my sister happy birthday and we share a birthday. Yeah. It is impossible for me to forget it. So up next on the the old jumbo tron. We have what I can only assume is another personal message. This message is for Helen. The messages from Jason and the message reads as follows
Starting point is 01:03:29 Sup Okay, thanks. Yeah, that was the message. Yeah, yeah, so Helen if you're out there Jason says sup You'd like to tell someone sup over jump over to maxfun.com and org max maximum fun.org Don't go to maxfun.com. No, no, it's porn go to maximum fun.org slash jumbo tron Yeah, I believe so I believe so But now it's time for letters from listeners. You write them. We read them time It's time for letters from listeners. You write them. We read them time. It's letter time letter time For listeners Yeah, it's a great song not really a song. It's sort of a call response sort of sort of thing
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah, it was a thing. That's the great thing about the word thing as you can use it describe stuff that doesn't really have a word Yeah, as a sample's trailer. Like, what are those things at the end of your shoelaces called? Who is that guy called in rocks? They're called egglets. And thing is the guy, oh, I see what you did, yeah. So this first letter is from first name with held, Robert last name with held.
Starting point is 01:04:41 This is a middle name. Who says, I assume that's James Robert Ryan Tolkien. As with most parents of preteen children, the flop house is our standard entertainment to listen to while it's shuttling the kids to their very basketball and baseball event. Not this one I hope. It's terrible. The 13 year old will last until the first sustained Elliott pun run at which time the earphones have put on with an audible sigh.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Ha ha ha! Kids ate me. She must be paying closer attention than I thought. As the other day, I was watching a movie, and she asked me if it was a bad, bad movie, a good bad movie, or a movie I kind of liked. Stuart, as the resident's cinephile, how long until this becomes the new standard rating system for all movies?
Starting point is 01:05:23 Dad, I give another another what we've been doing this nine years so one more year. Ten years is the rule. Yeah, we're half to. Yeah, that's what they have to do. Yeah, grandfather in it. So call up the father of movies. Yeah. Thomas Edison. Yes. Call him up. Oh, the new friend. I'm the new friend. Oh, the 10-year-grandfather you're talking about, Dan? Yeah. 10-year-grandfather. It's terrible. Dan, my son would like to know when you're going to find the Jersey Devil.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Look. Oh, that was a long time ago. Yeah, that's. Yeah, I assume that's a reference to our ghost hunting video. Yeah, that's not even a flop-ass thing. Yeah. That was a video that we made for my old live show, the Primetime Kaelin. If you look up Ghost Hunters, Dan McCoy, L.A.K.L.N. you might come up with a few amusing YouTube videos. Very, very amateur issue, two videos. Very slap-
Starting point is 01:06:18 videos that were put together for a live show. And so we're like, let's not put a lot of work into them. Because they're going to be shown once and then that's it. But yeah, the search continues. Elliott, as the resident comic book expert, what is your opinion on including real characters or other out of context references in your stories? Is there a difference between the Easter egg and a reference slash cameo that breaks you out of the comic slash movie slash TV shows world? Yeah, there is, but it's one of those things like like obscenity. I know it when I see it. It's hard for me to define.
Starting point is 01:06:54 It's like, uh, there are times when things can get a little too winky. And then it's like, all right, like I can't buy it to the reality of this anymore. That is certain. I mean, Stan Lee's cameos in his movies kind of become that as they get more baroque, you know? Or if you read that comic book and there's clearly a scene where the creators of the comic are like having a conversation, that can be fun for a panel. But if it's a whole page, forget about it.
Starting point is 01:07:23 So you're talking to somebody who wrote a series of one page bits where it's just starring Wyatt, Sennac and me. Yeah. Coro with Wyatt, which have been republished in a book that's coming out from Marvel called Secret Wars 2, which is where they reprinted a bunch of their humor books and all my humor stuff is in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I didn't know it would existed until they sent me one in the mail. I prefer it when like Dave Sim shows up in a service book and he teaches us some real life lessons like the broads. Am I right? This movie that we watched they had a real Dave Sim take on women. Yeah. And last question from this email house cat, why did you not
Starting point is 01:08:00 have a character in the adventures on crossover? Was it just viewed about money or you just too serious for D&D? I'll have to ask him some time. He doesn't have a lot of time for D&D. I wouldn't say it's too serious. He just doesn't really truck with that nerd shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:15 It's a little too cool. Yeah. You know how some people are so cool that they can do nerdy stuff and still be cool? He's even cooler than that. He's the next step. Yeah. Yeah, it cycles back on itself. He's busy cooler than that. He's the next step. Yeah. Yeah, it cycles back on itself.
Starting point is 01:08:25 He's busy skateboarding, having one of the Frank D'Angelo energy drinks. That's what he drinks now. Yeah. And you guys ever fantasize about it? Probably. Some kid is in like a home alone situation. He's got to scare up burglars that he's going to use audio files of your podcast clips to scare the burglars away. Not really.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Okay. Like, you're filthy animal bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my classic store willing to fill the animal bit from the Vla Paz podcast. No, I've never thought of that. So this is from Michael last name with Held, who writes, Recently I was stricken with a nasty stomach bug to distract me from my nausea and to help cover up the sounds that come along with a nasty stomach bug. I downloaded a bunch of flop house episodes to comfort me as I pressed my face to the cold tile floor of the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:09:19 For once in Earth's history, Ellie was singing, actually soothed somebody. Oh, come on. Although Stuart's talk of Wormy boners did not help my queesiness. And with every mournful sigh from Dan, I thought, what the fuck are you so sad about? I'm dying here, you bastard. Sorry, Dan. It was the virus talking.
Starting point is 01:09:36 After a rough couple of days, I realized I was going to live, and indeed, managed to stand on the bathroom scale to assess the damage. I looked down to find that in two days I had managed to lose seven pounds. What? Oh, he strikes again. That's right, it was clear this was no random illness. No, I've been poisoned by that dastardly supervillain. Had he been my uber driver the night before?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Had he slipped some concoction into my food posing as a line cook? And why had he picked me? Actually I'm pretty fucking awesome, so that part was understandable. Just be careful out there, fellas. Seven pounds is back in town. Also, what movies do you like to watch when you're sick? My go-to has been, like lately, it's been the world's end. It's one of those things I can just put on and like,
Starting point is 01:10:24 I go to my happy place. And sometimes lately I'll also throw in the guest. The guest is a good one. Yeah, I would put that on my list. I mean, and likewise, any 80s John Carpenter, which is basically the same thing as the guest. Yep, I would watch where I'm sick.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I don't get sick very much. My body just kind of rejects illness, but the first time I had a kidney stone was pretty bad, and I will remember watching from beyond for the first time. And I was like, around the point that Jeffrey Combs, as he's mutating because he's seen another dimension, sucks the eyeball out of another man's head, I was like, this movie gets where I'm at right now. that Jeffrey Combs as he's mutating because he's seen another dimension, sucked the eyeball out of another man's head.
Starting point is 01:11:07 I was like, this movie gets where I'm at right now. And it really helps. I suffered a pretty bad arm injury. I broke my humorous after having recently broken my radius. And let me tell you, it was pretty funny. It was not humorous. You beat me to the fucking joke. Hello, Dan.
Starting point is 01:11:23 High five, awaiting you. Yeah, I was stuck in the couch for a while, and of course my mom went out and rented me some tapes from the local bee buster. And she bustered. And she bustered. She knows me because the top of that stack of tapes was Jeff Fahey's vehicle body parts. Nice. But a guy who gets an horrible car accident, which is how I broke my arm and gets a grafted arm of a serial killer on his body. And guess what? That arm wants to kill people.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Muscle memory. Yeah. That's right. I'm good at one thing. Why don't they let me do it anymore? Murdering. So this is from Joe Lasting with Elle, who writes, the flop house is my favorite podcast. Dan and Ellie, I love you guys too, but this question is for my favorite flopper. Stu, thanks for listening. Well, okay, thanks Joe Montana, 49ers, former quarterback.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Stu, I recently bought net runner on your recommendation from the, we are your friend's app. Okay. However, neither of my roommates, my usual strategy game crew will play with me. Weird. I was thinking of bringing it to my local board game night, but I don't want to be that guy that rolls into a game night, convinces someone to play with him, and then takes 20 minutes to figure out how ice works.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yep. How would you suggest I find someone who I can start playing my new game with? Thanks, Joe last name with all. to play with him and then takes 20 minutes to figure out how ice works. Yeah. How would you suggest I find someone who I can start playing my new game with? Thanks, Joe Lasting with the... Tinder, probably, right? Yeah, I think that's the best way if you're like, hey, you want to crank some fucking ice? I'm gonna run some games. I would say, I don't know exactly where you live, but I know in New York that if you go look for meetups for board games and you can look for meetups for
Starting point is 01:13:06 the card game and question you can also go on boardgamegeek.com and look at the forums yeah or go on in this case the producer of that games community section and find meetups for that game that way that's what I would suggest. Well, come down to hinterlands bar, the bar is open. And I'll play you, dude. In Brooklyn, New York, he will set it up on the bar. We'll be talking about ice, both the beverage and the thing in the game. And the fridge?
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah, yeah, like an icy. I mean, like you'd put ice in your drink, but I don't. I mean, I guess I'll work guess, I get the health department calls it a food at this point. Yeah. I mean, that seems weird too, but it makes more sense to me. Yeah, that's why a bar counts as a restaurant for the health department.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Just for the ice. Ice counts as food, yeah. Hmm. Go on, Dan. That's a little insight into New York health department regulation. Also, take care of your regulars. Be a Paul Servino.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Mm-hmm. Give them a free drink when they lose their house. Yep, or as you never know, they might go into a bank and start shooting people up. Yeah, yeah, he's the seven pounds in this scenario. This last one, last letter. I assume is mostly for Elliot. Never know. Dear Elliot. Oh, then probably. Oh, it starts out with the word Elliot.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So when you read things usually start in the middle and then just kind of like to stand outward in concentric rings until you reach the beginning. I saw the word well because it's a it was a hyperink when I printed it out. I saw President Lincoln underlined. So the eyes went to it, because I find that's actually how I read menus a lot of the time and I have to force myself to go to do it. You zoom in on a specific, like, if a word catches your eye, you're like, I don't know, like,
Starting point is 01:14:59 like Belly. And the word is almost always pork steak or chicken. Like it's, and then, and then I, you're like, oh, honey, they have chicken. Give me a second, I'm reading. And then I put my bookmark in the part of the menu I left off at, taking the app, use the bathroom, come back. But I find I have to force myself
Starting point is 01:15:16 to start at the beginning of the menu. The appetizer's usually. Mm-hmm. And then there's a, a twist ending, dessert. Oh, wow. It turns out the chocolate fondue did it. It's spoiler alert. What's that cake doing upside down? We'll find out when we get there, honey.
Starting point is 01:15:40 The molten chocolate cake burned him to death With its lava. Yep Dan McCoy dessert detective Elliot Have you ever been to President Lincoln's cottage at the soldiers home in DC? It's one of the most fascinating and underrated tourist attractions in DC far more interesting that forwards theater a weird tourist scam hub It's a modest house in petworth where Lincoln lived for much of his presidency. I'm familiar with the soldier zone. Commuting by horse to the White House. You're with the Matsapation Proclamation there.
Starting point is 01:16:11 The tour gives a great overview of his personality and the personality of DC as a city. I bet the tour would give you even greater context for understanding the day-to-day life of Lincoln and the great pressures he faced. I'd also like to recommend this tour to anyone else listening. It's great and I always encourage tourists to get off the mall and see DC as the great city is it is. Oh, the CDC, the Center for Disease Control. And last name of course. I've actually never been.
Starting point is 01:16:35 The tour edge is when you forced people to watch the Andourage. But you don't force them. You just push it on them a little bit. Yeah, you invite them over for a party and then you just put it on the TV play, and you're like, hey, just do what your body wants, guys. And then they turn it off because that's what their body wants. The body rejects it. I've actually never been to the soldier's home.
Starting point is 01:16:56 I really wanted to go and I haven't had a trip to DC in years when I've been able to go to a DC for a live show. For like a day. Yeah, and LA was like, take me to soldier's home. Take me to soldier's home when we're like, no, we don't have time. LA, maybe tomorrow. LA, we like to see it.
Starting point is 01:17:13 We like to see it. We rubbed a little whiskey on his gums and put him to bed. Yeah, I'm gonna have a fussy. I was just reading a book recently about Lincoln's relationship with John Hay and his private, one of his private secretaries later became Teddy Roosevelt's secretary of state among other posts he held.
Starting point is 01:17:32 And it talked about these horse rides that they would do, the two of them between the White House and the soldiers' home. And I was getting so envious for all this concentrated time that he got to spend with Abraham Lincoln just kind of like hanging out. And I would like to go see it actually for that reason. It was, at the time it was built, it was way off in the woods. And now it's just in DC, because the city has expanded.
Starting point is 01:17:53 But I'd like to go. Maybe you could convince Daniel Day Lewis to go with you and he would put on his Lincoln performance. Yeah, that seems like there's only a few steps that I'll have to go through to get to that point. Yeah. Step one. performance. Yeah, that seems to be like only a few steps that I'll have to go through to get to that point. Step one, find out how to contact Daniel Day Lewis. I mean, if he's not available, just get Daniel night Lewis. Oh, thanks guys. I've been great tonight. Is that M night Shyamalan's middle name brother? M. Day Shyamalan. M. Day Shyamalan has no twist in this film. You see what you get says M.D. Shylon.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Hey, now is the time for the last segment on the show. Okay. I don't know if I have the energy. Yeah, sure I do. Which is when we recommend movies that we actually liked, although we enjoyed. is when we recommend movies that we actually liked although we enjoyed. No reservations. I like knowing what I'm doing. Parts unknown? It was. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:53 This is a movie that you'd watch as like a double feature with no deposit. So what do you guys wanna recommend? I have my recommendation. Okay, so, okay. I'll go first. I mean, no pressure, but I've got one. I'm gonna recommend a movie that probably doesn't need
Starting point is 01:19:07 me to champion for it. This is a movie that was, I guess, a big release when I was a kid and I saw it in the theater. It stars. Elliot's pal sliced alone. It's a movie called Demolition Man. So if you're looking for a big... Dan, look at a space like you
Starting point is 01:19:26 best. I think you're gonna make this right now. Why today of all days? Why? Why in 2016? Dan stares into my eyes and hoping to find some kind of understanding there, but he says nothing. Not but emptiness. Grizzlies too. So yeah, no, Demolition Man is a movie where the greatest sleep tells us what it is. There's little known indie hit in deep film. Was it even a hit when it came out? I don't know
Starting point is 01:20:05 It was a minor success. I believe so it's how the miners liked it Played real-bill with Harlan County Kentucky. I don't really have one myself to watch down the mines projected on the Bay Rock and the strong who said are you on platform that so that's alone states Okay, so Demotion man is about a greatest comedy first, fighting an evil drug dealer, and they both, and I'm getting charged with a crime and frozen, and then they wake up far in the future,
Starting point is 01:20:33 and they get into all kinds of wacky adventure ventures. And the villain in this case is played by Wesley Snipes, and this is genuinely a great over-the-top cartoony performance. They would have not been out of place in any of the Tim Burton Batman movies. It's great. It's almost worth watching just on that energy alone and it's the sort of thing It's the sort of performance where you're like Kind of surprise at Wesley Snipes isn't a bigger star because he is so much fun to watch in this movie
Starting point is 01:21:02 I mean he was a he has been a huge star. He's gone through. I mean, he's fallen on hard times, I suppose. I mean, not paying your taxes for many years and then having to pay them all at once will do that to you. Yeah, I suppose. So if you get a chance, if you haven't already seen it, you should go check it out. It's a great example of a good bad movie. And you can finally find out what the three seashells of the bathroom are all about. You don't know how to use those.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Ha ha ha ha ha. It also has perhaps the most gratuitous piece of nudity in any film ever. Yeah. So, let's just alone just get a wrong video phone call from a nude lady and that's the entire video. She goes, oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were somewhere else. And now that we have video phone calls,
Starting point is 01:21:44 you know, that shit happens all the time. Constantly. People are constantly misdiling their video phone numbers. Okay, so Dan, now that you can't recommend to my question, Dan. Damn you. I'm gonna take a page from Elliott's Playbook. I'm gonna recommend a movie from 1935.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Just don't take a page from my playboy. I don't know. What if it's one of those like terrible joke pages? You can take those. Those are pretty bad. Um, where if it's an article about travel? Yeah, or some Norman Malier, or Maler article. Or Norman Malier. I'm not familiar with his work either, but.
Starting point is 01:22:19 He's French. Norman Maler plus manure. Um, so, uh, 1935, the version of a mid-summer night stream that was done, uh, and it had Olivia to haveland is Titania. It had Jimmy Kagmy as bottom. It had Dick Powell as a little sander, I believe. Thanks. So and Joey Brown is another brown is snug. less and I believe. And Joey Brown is a no. Joey Brown is a snuggler.
Starting point is 01:22:46 The mechanical. It's a. It's the it was the film version of the like what Max Reinhardt production. I believe that's correct. And it's a to my taste. I know Ellie and I talked about this and we have minor disagreement. To my taste, there's a little too much Gawzy photography of fairies running around which I think is the the biggest strong point of the movie
Starting point is 01:23:11 I really like a lot and the thing I like the most about it is the like 30s Gawzy photographed choreography where there's just like nymphs running around a forest with like a lot of glitter everywhere It happens a lot. I like that. I like that. I like that. If you like that, then you'll love the 35 minutes of my night's drink.
Starting point is 01:23:33 There's like James Cagney's really good in it. Joey Brown is really funny. Yeah, the rude mechanical stuff is very funny. I think it's probably the strongest stuff in the movie. It's an interesting movie to watch. I'm a big fan of the play. It's an interesting movie to watch. I'm a big fan of the play. It's an interesting movie to watch to see how much they cut down the play, like even though the movie's
Starting point is 01:23:51 like over two hours long. It's like 215 or something like that. I make room for all those fairies running around. Yeah, there's whole like wide swaths of dialogue that's just replaced by like people making various faces at each other. The only thing I really don't like in that movie is Mickey Rooney's performance. Mickey Rooney is so irritating. So irritating. I mean, Mickey Rooney can go broad, you know, a lot of the time, but
Starting point is 01:24:21 this is him as a child and he like has this weird, I'm an old man, but a child's quality about him, and he does this laugh every other line that just goes like, it's just like this horrible brain thing. But, aside from that, I think that's a good movie. I think that's still the best film version of that play that I've seen. I think that that a good movie. I think that's still the best film version of that play that I've seen.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I think that that's probably true, but that also... It's damn in their very fame praise. Yeah. But... I have seen better stage productions of it. Sure you have. Yeah. But if you're a fan...
Starting point is 01:24:59 If you're a fan of... One in Stratford itself. Oh, wow. Mm-hmm. You're treading the boards. I guess. If you're a fan of Mid-Summer's at all, you should watch the movie. That's what I. And then just go watch the Mid-Summer Night Sex Comedy, a really good movie with a terrible title. Sure. And I'm going to recommend a movie. I'm going to take a page from the Elliot Kaylen playbook and recommend an old movie that's also a foreign film. And I'm going to recommend, you know what, Frank D'Angelo just wanted to make
Starting point is 01:25:31 movies and he did it's not like he had training in it at all. He just decided he had a story to tell and he decided to tell it. And this movie was made in similar fashion by a little man named Satya Jitre from India. And this is his first film, Pather Panchali, which I've been putting off watching for years, because even though I love old movies and I love old foreign movies and other foreign movies, I still every now and then get that feeling of like, this is gonna be not as enjoyable as it is like good for me. But Pather Panchali is like a genuinely like
Starting point is 01:26:02 beautiful entertaining movie, and it's really heart-breaking really good. It's from the 50s and it's a film about rural Indian poverty, but about one family, a husband and wife, the husband has dreams of being a writer, but he's just kind of not supporting his family. The wife is the one that pressure falls on and they have two kids, an older daughter and a younger son.
Starting point is 01:26:26 And there's a certain amount of slice of license to it, but there's a lot of sight plotting in it also. And I like, don't wanna like talk, it's like to describe the plot is not to describe what's interesting about it, but it's like a beautiful looking film and the emotions in it are really strong and the performances are really great.
Starting point is 01:26:44 And it's one of those movies where you're like, this was his, the director's first movie, a number of the actors in it were not professional actors at the time. Like, that's crazy, this is such a good movie. So I highly recommend it, Peter Panchali. Yeah, okay, three equally good movies. That's right. Yeah. One was one of the hallmarks of Indian cinema and then you've got a kind of golden age Hollywood
Starting point is 01:27:07 adapting the greatest writer whoever existed and then you got Demolition man The first I assume would be a Celeste Sloan Rob Schneider double feature with Judge Dredd. Yeah Also a futuristic Adventure only Dennis Leary had also been in Judge Dredd Mm-hmm. The three must-go-chairs they called them. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Because they loved the candy bar with the same name. Oh my God. They love it. They love it. They love me another candy bar. So it's all fair. They're gonna do the most good deal. Hey, hey guys.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I was talking about Demlution Man's I had to stop by. But episodes running a little long, so I just realized I started a bit. That's not a good idea. So I think I'm probably gonna get going Questions about your character John Spartan. Don't really remember too much What was the name of Wesley's knife just got to like Jimmy Phoenix? I know his Phoenix or something anyway Ghosty would have a movie I haven't theaters right now. Is this something out? I don't know Well get a creed on DVD. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:28:06 People loved it. And, uh, job should be back at some point, you know? All right. Well, it's always good to see you. So what was the last question? So what was the last question? You just open your new bar? Yeah, it's been really successful. We carry bullet bourbon.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Oh, like my movie bullet to the head. Yeah, and Dad, you've got a lot of good things going on. No, that's not true at all Okay, gotta go You know, no slide knows when he's put his foot in the old mouth. So I'm gonna I'm just gonna go Yeah, he always has his jet back with him. I hope Elliott comes back soon. He's gonna be so mad. He missed like I'm back guys. I didn't miss anything right. I just went to get some
Starting point is 01:28:43 slide. I didn't miss anything, right? I just went to get some. I just want to thank everybody who came out to the maximum meetup. There's a lot of folks that I had met before and that was really great to meet so many nice cool folks who came out to the meetup what a week ago at the bar. I just opened. It was really humbling to just meet all these really nice people and get that kind of support. And Dan had a great time too. Yeah, I was also there. I missed it, but I regretted missing it. Hopefully you will get to do more of those things. It's super fun.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And if you didn't come out because you were worried that you wouldn't know anybody, you should come out and come and talk to me because at a lot of those things, I mainly spend the time standing around wondering who I can talk to. Feel free to just walk up to Stuart and tell him you don't listen to the flop house. Yeah, please do that. People feel fine doing that apparently.
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Starting point is 01:30:28 Thanks, too, for that housework. This episode was so packed full of experiences. We watched a really crazy, funny movie. We celebrated nine years together. We talked about the whole cause, some rubber lodges. We talked about how it got to fair them out. And recommended some movies, had some laughs,
Starting point is 01:30:44 said hello to some people, said sup to one person in particular. Yeah Colin Sup, Helen the taking of Helen one two three Well, I hope that Helen has a good time. I hope that you've all had a good time But oh, we don't we got to come to an end and we're dying So as we put ourselves into it, we literally startle sleep. We sign off saying, I've been Dan McCoy
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Starting point is 01:31:46 I'm gonna talk like this sometimes too. I will talk like this, like a robot, the whole episode. It won't get annoying, I promise. All right. Yeah, I guess you gotta do the hand motions. I'm doing them even though they cannot hear for realism. You can hear the confidence of the hand motions in the voice. It helps my performance posture. That's uh that was the the directing you gave
Starting point is 01:32:13 during MST3K right? I said hey move like a robot while you're saying those things. Move like a robot. Move like a robot. That's what's the tune of Smooth Operator. That's the farthest I've ever gotten with that parody. I haven't taken that for a while. Maximumfund.org Comedy and Culture, Artistone Listener supported Maximumfund.org
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