The Flop House - Ep. #227 - 1941

Episode Date: March 25, 2017

An extra-special bonus episode for the MaxFun Drive, where we're joined by Mr. John Hodgman to talk about Steven Spielberg's legendary flop 1941.   Movies recommended in this episode: I Wanna Hold Your Hand Manborg The Miracle of Morgan's Creek

Hey everybody, it's me John Hodgren, the new host of the Flop House. This is an incredible special episode of the Flop House because it's Max Fundrive. I'm here with my inferior co-host, Ellie Kimmer, Dan McCoy and Stuart Wellington. And this show now belongs to me. and that's just the way it is. How are you guys doing? I guess we're starting the show. You really rested, controlled, and the power vacuum. Alright, well let's go to a break.

Okay, for little time to the show, we're afraid to be young and free. I'm not being the new regime. I can fulfill the role of bully henchmen. You're gonna be like a crab goil type. You're the guy who, when Hodgman's plan is defeated at the end by the hero, you go over to give him some solace and he pushes you away in anger. I don't remember which one it was,

whether it was crab or goil. But one of those young actors, I actors I was like that guy's got a future and I have never been more wrong. Now you drink a mouth voice on the flash that's how far his future went. Oh wow. Anyway, the top thing that you can be is a factor on the flash. So just to make it let me let me make it clear. I would like to be on the flash. Yeah. All right. Like Greg Grouenti, I am here and I am in wardrobe.

I'm wearing a flash costume as we speak. And so you have your own. You're going to pick one. She's already cast, but he could play any number of characters. Yeah, they're ultimate. I mean, they're many different earths. So the flash villain, the turtle, who was super slow. I was going to make a joke about that, but apparently that's the thing that exists.

He was a real character from the Silver Age stories. Here's what he did. He's already been on the TV show. Oh really? Billy Hinchman? She took him down. Well, he's already been on the show. Thank you so much.

It can't be the trickster because that's Mark Hamill from the old flash show. He's in the new flash show, too. Hellia, come on. I haven't seen this new flash. Oh, please. Maramaster. Yeah, I don't know. So if you were going to pick,

if you're going to pick a Burmese versus flash is great. It's feeling mirror. Max. Would it be, or would you like to be like a rival millionaire on arrow?

If I were going to be in a Burlanti versus show. Yeah. Oh, super girl. Super girl. Super girl. Not legends of tomorrow where you could play like an old West verse show. Yeah. Super girl. Super girl. Super girl. Not legends of tomorrow where you could play like an old-west cowpoke. Well, Jonah Hex. Here's what I, here's what

I have to say. Arrow has no claim in my heart. Uh huh. The flash, they're full up. They don't need it. They don't need me at all. Stuffed. Yeah, they already got five. What's his names? Who's the actor? The guy from Tom Cavanaugh? Tom Cavanaugh. There's a lot of Tom Cavanaugh. Tom Cavanaugh's all over that shit. Sometimes, many different writers.

Oh, Professor Zoom. No, that's a different bad guy in this. Okay, so you know what? Two different first ones. I'm talking to my friend Stuart about the Berlanti version. Well, I'm just confused about whether we actually started the show. This is apparently a flash cast. You heard me start the show, right? That's true.

Okay, so it's Goddamn started. I just assumed since we immediately then went into flash talks without even pretending that we watched. All right, be quiet, Elliot. So if you were going to ask me seriously about which Berlanti version show being it really would be a tie for Legends Tomorrow or Supergirl. And here's the deal. seriously about which Berlanti Brasho being. It really would be a tie for Legends Tomorrow or Supergirl. And here's the deal.

Sure. Flash is full up. They've got all the character actions they need. That's a dead Cavanaus. Oh, Elliott. It's Tom Gavina. It's too. I thought you were going to help me with this. Sorry. Sorry about that. All right. Would you please

wedge, wedgey Elliott while I talk to you? Thank you. Hi. I'm menacingly slapping a sap against my palm. That seems way archer. Can you believe that? Thank you. I'm menacingly slapping a sap against my palm Just go get a wedgie hook down down in the 7-Eleven Dan, I have two questions for you. Okay. No, let me answer my question. I Would want to be in Supergirl because she's such a super girl. You're talking about Callista Flockhart?

No, no, she's not even on the show anymore. They moved it over to CW and she's no longer on the show. She's not even as a hologram. No, she's not going to be on a CW show. You can't match her quote. The CW has a restraining order against Callista Flockhart. Yeah, because they were dating for a while. And they broke a CW was like, I'm sorry,

this is not working for me. And she was like, I can't have you, no one can have you. And she started stalking people. She burned down one tree hill. And they had a confusing order. Now it's not a tree hill. It was Sean Young. Maybe.

So I guess I would be a legend of tomorrow for sure. OK. I think you and Victor Garber would be great together. Oh, what if I played young Victor Garber? I'd built a good ship for your rose. Victor being Godspell, if you were playing young, you'd be Victor Garber. Or the even younger baby Victor Garber. All right.

Well, once again, relies sitting John Hodgren to bring this thing back on track. This is the flop house. This is the flop house. It's a podcast. It's a podcast where we watch a bad movie. We watch a bad movie. And then we talk about it.

What's special about this episode, Dan? Well, one special thing is we have Mr. John Hodgman with us. And why we have that? Because it's a bonus episode that we're doing. Because it's the max fund drive. I thought it was because we were friends with it. That's right. But by bonus, you just mean extra.

This is we're not really. It's an extra episode. People are listening to this right now. Yes. People who know us. It's not like they're not like, I don't remember going to a secret hallway and unlocking a special door with my key code

in this bonus episode. You're right that I should differentiate bonus episodes because there are certain things called bonus episodes that have something to do with the max fund drive. Yeah, we'll talk about. Much the same way flammable and inflammable are the same. You use bonus for two different reasons.

Uh, I think that's the opposite of what happened, but go on. The word cleave means its own opposite. Oh, that's true. You have split and to hold together. And speaking of cleave, we just watched the movie 1941, directed by Steve and that much cleaveage of it. Oh, did you not see the Nancy Allen scenes?

No, I mean, those were the levels. I don't, look, I don't want to discuss your viewers by reminding them that I am a sexual being. But this movie, 1941 Directly Steven Spielberg, is one of the most profoundly disturbing, provocative and erotic movies in my young childhood. It's a real, like consequence. That's as good a tease as any of us to now talk about the Max Fun Drive and then get back to the erotic awakening of young John HUD.

I don't want to stop. The Max Fun Tribe is a very special time. So first off, what's Max Fun? Max Fun is the podcasting network that we belong to. It has many great shows, including John Hodgman's show, Judge John Hodgman. And now the flop of those Judge John Hodgman's show. And now, and Max Fun is thus called that because it is the maximum amount of fun the human body can have without shutting.

Yeah. If you had had any more fun than you get from the channel. You go into a renal failure. Oh, your reans would fail immediately. Yeah. You could have the most failingist reans. And it's, it's almost exclusively listener supported, yeah. It's always been a listener supported network.

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I'm just wondering why Dan has enclosed up all the milestones in his apartment. I guess these hoping for friends to climb up there. I watched Max Magician Legend of the Rain. Yep, that's a call back. So did I. And after watching that movie, you were inspired to drill mouse holes into the walls. That's right.

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It's maximum fun dot orgs forward slash donate. We'll talk more about what you get when you do donate When you do when you do Yeah, Paul what was the put the post guy's dog I'm so sorry Paul Doug What first let's first me Prefer to be referred to by his middle name. Let's go back to how 1941 perhaps the least liked movie and Steven Spielberg's career Not call not counting crystal kit skull what about always yeah always is a pretty good I feel like always people say like well It's nice to see Audrey Hepburn at that point in her life

There's nothing about like that. I think this You think It doesn't feel good to see Robert stack at this point. No, that's a fair point. All right anyway But John had from you referred to it as being part of I guess what helped you discover Doing it So how will you when this movie came out in 1979? Well, I was born in 1971. Dan, can you turn the lights down? Set the mood music That's my fucking bit

So I was born in 1971 the movie came out in 1979 you do the math I was brought to it it by my dad for reasons that I now severely question. Because as you know, your dad would usually see a movie first to preview and make sure it was okay for you, then take you to it. Well, it was it was happening. It was a PG movie and it was it was branded as a comedy and I and I feel like he might have been misled to some degree about the content of this film. He might not have known. How do you seen the previous Steven Spielberg movies? No. You were given any indication of being a huge fan of that director.

You were a big sugar head as Sugar Land Express fans were known. I'm sure that I did not see jaws. I had not seen jaws at that time. I may have seen close encounters. I know that I'd seen Annie Hall with my babysitter. Which is technically not a Steven Spielberg movie, but it's hard to not know that it's not. No, but I remember.

I know the kinds of movie scenes. It was a tie. Because of the expertly timed chase scene Woody Allen goes. Well, there's that part where Diane Keaton reached out her finger to Woody Allen, and then she went back home to her, if it's on planet. Right.

It was a time when children were being brought to the movies because irresponsible adults wanted to take two hours out of their lives and see, and movies were made for grownups at that time. And there was that the kind of movie that fell into the No Man's Land between PG and R. PG-13 rating did not exist yet. Exactly so it was like until what red dawn? The flamingo, until post-grems and template dums as some people would call gremlins and devil doom. They didn't like them. I like both of those movies

Uh-huh greater or lesser degree. Oh wow PG 13 movie. It was not that but that was the one that that and Really pulled that heart out of that dudes Yes, but because there were no boobs. They were like this is good for kids Was red dawn the first read on the first I thought I thought it was the flamingo kid with They might have come out at the same time. I don't know well in any case. There's no later research it We just don't have the technology There was there was no amount of heart pulling out of chest

full of doom that that scarred me and Tidilated me as much as going to see 1941 with that nude lady at the beginning of the film, in a parody of Jaws. You had not seen that before. No, I had not. So, and I had this vague memory that we got to the, we went to the Cleveland Circle Theater in Cleveland Circle Brookline, Massachusetts. And if a Kickstarter doesn't start right now to put a plaque up on that theater to commemorate your scene, 1940. Oh, it's been torn down. Oh, what are the buildings there?

Put a plaque up the Cleveland Circle Theater. I think the ground round is still next to it so you could put a plaque there. That's where that's where. A hundred and eight his way as a kid. And that after seeing 1941. That's where I went in my first friend date with my wife, Kevin Fletcher, actually. So you could put a plaque there, for sure. But we went there. I know that we went to the Cleveland Circle. And I my memory is that we arrived late to 1941. It was already 1942, whether it's everything. Yeah, okay.

And it was like, the favorite McGee and Molly show. Open it. All closet. You like look like. Sound of people turning off a podcast because they don't hear it.

What's new in the world of role playing games? If you want to see what stewards checking on his phone right now, just switch to sound. I think the week, well, it's checking on his phone right now, just switch to Sam. I think the week... Well, it's checking on Jack Binney and Rochester and what they're up to. Which is also a 1941.

I mean, 1941 referenced a lot of weird old culture that doesn't exist anymore. But my dad and I showed up and I think we were like 20 minutes late and I'm like, I don't want to go into movie 20 minutes late. My dad said, I'm going in. I'm going in. Even as a child, you're like, this is not the way this film was meant to be seen. Precisely.

And the funny thing about it was, this movie was not meant to be seen. So for my dad went in to see it and I just waited until the next showing and then he very graciously let me come in and we watched it again. What is weird about that is he's already seen the movie. That is true love for his son that he watched it twice. I think you just wanted to see that nude lady

at the beginning of the movie. Fair, the internet didn't exist yet. It was harder to see nude ladies. That nude lady, so at the beginning of the movie, a woman goes into the ocean. This movie is set in the year of the title, 1941. And it's loosely based on an incident when people started shooting into the ocean. This movie is set in the year of the title, 1941, and it's loosely based on an incident when people started

shooting into the skies in California, because they thought they saw Japanese planes, but it didn't actually have. Right. After Pearl Harbor, everyone on the West Coast of the United States was afraid that Japan was going to invade it any moment. It was back when the United States was kind of gun crazy. Back then, we've gotten over that now. And also afraid of farmers in a way that is just not really understandable to today's Americans.

And so Steven Spielberg got together with John Millius and Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale and they're like, let's make a funny comment. Otherwise known as Hollywood's comedy brain trust. John, it's really. We're going to take the comedy genius of John Millius. How can we create some comedy genius? I know. Right after Pearl Harbor, we got so paranoid that we put every Japanese American into a prison

camp. That's a funny idea for a comedy. And they made it. It's called 1941. I mean, they don't really cover the prison camp for this one. Maybe I was in the bloops that we didn't see. It's a whole sub-plot. They must have cut out. That was clearly going to be a journey.

There was so much reference, like offensive reference to Japanese American and Japanese citizens. That movie could not have possibly have been made today or ever. It seems like it was made during that kind of, the what's the flip of golden, that period when the freedom of the filmings of the 70s, led in, like clashed and merged head on with the emerging kind of like bro capitalist culture of the 80s. In a way where suddenly it was like

rich white guys trying to rape women is funny. And like is a sign of heroism and freedom in a way that like I don't understand it, but that's just how it is these days guys. So there's a lot in this movie of like guys trying to get with women in ways that are like not even that are just make your stomach turned, but the movie is like boys will be boys right. This is pretty funny stuff.

Come on. Right. Well, this is what makes me think. Go ahead. What? Well, no, I don't think that's right. But it's clearly like also inspired by it feels like this was made by people who don't understand comedy and we're like national lampoon is funny. Everybody lives national lampoon. Let's just do what they do. Yeah. Totally just stick it to the broads. Yeah. Because if there's anyone who needs to be taken down a peg, it's women.

Even when I saw them, they... They all had equal rights amendment passed, almost. Yeah. Comedy is punching down, Elliot. Always. That's the person you're standing on. When I was eight years old and I saw this film, finally, after waiting the lobby for the first time.

It's so insane. You're reading a book, reading it out. What is John Hodgman reading a book? I'm trying to figure out, because there weren't any. The Cleveland Circle also had an art gallery in it. So, was this a sort of art gallery where you could, you know, like, it was basically like a coffee house where you could buy what was up on the wall for 30 bucks. Yeah, of course.

Oh, yeah. When you sat down in the Cleveland Circle Cinema, in Cleveland Circle Brookline, before the show started, they would say, make sure to visit our art gallery. Make sure to visit our art gallery. Everything is for sale. And it was a very, it was a mid-century modern cinema. And you could check out their modern art that was up there.

And I mean, that's pretty cool. I cruised it for a while while I was thinking about, why my dad is going to a movie without me? And I'm like, he's old. I'm alone in a lobby. Are you saying you didn't try and earn your movie fair by beating people in arm wrestling matches or something? It never occurred to me that I could beat anyone ever.

So I do remember going into the movie and then seeing the scene that you're discussing, which is that treat Williams plays what a member of the first of all. Well, this movie has 17,000 characters. They thought they were making Nashville when they made this movie. There's so many characters. They're all running around. They get picked up and dropped Hegeldy Pagelty and their plot lines peed around or explode at random moments.

And they're constantly re- like you're an hour into this movie and they're still introducing characters. And you're like, I have to assume that like a middle aged Gary Marshall saw this and he was like, robo, this is how movies are supposed to be made. I'm going to make so many movies with a ton of characters just dumb to make Pearl Harbor day. Don't move me. That's my terrible imitation of Paul of Tomkins doing a great imitation of Gary Marshall.

Rest in peace. Rest the RIP of all of Tomkins is impression. I'm Gary Marshall. Also, Paul of Tompkins is dead. What is he doing? But yeah, no, so treat Williams played one of the many 10,000 characters. And he was the biggest turn of America at this time, right?

Oh, he's a real treat to seeing the movie. And his name continues on in our Halloween saying of Trick or Treat because of his short lived partnership in a series of to seeing the movie. And his name continues on in our Halloween saying a trick or treat because of his short-lived partnership in a series of movies with Johnny Trick. Oh, Elliot. Johnny Trick was a dog. In real life? No, I'm making enough as I go along.

Also, a male barocati. If you're not singing, I don't want to hear it. Anyway, tree Williams played a member of a tank battalion who got a fixation upon a young woman who was being courted by the ostensible lead of the movie. A character named Wally played by hang on. I got to look at the sky. He's the hero of the movie, much the way Danny is supposed to be the hero of Caddysack. And it disappears for Broad Swanson movie because he's not then entertaining. Right, exactly.

So it's like in that moment in Caddysack where the waitress goes, Danny, I'm pregnant and you're like, wait, was I supposed to care about this character? We've just watched a lot of that. William? Yeah, yeah, I said, good day mate, you threw another sperm on me, Bobby. Does that plot go anywhere? What happens to her? In Caddysack? Yeah, I said, good day mate, you threw another sperm on me Bobby. Does that plot go anywhere? What happens to her in catty shirt? Yeah, I don't know.

She gets hit by a ball and it noms the baby. That's the baby. I don't know. Do it for steals the baby. I mean, it's another. It's a great set as one of its own. This movie is part in that, that milieu of a woman in a movie is pregnant out of wedlock and you're like, oh shit, this guy's got a real problem

on his hands. Her life does not enter into the scenario. How does this affect this dude who was just gonna be a caddy for the summer? So they don't like that movie. The essential main character in this film is Bobby Dichy. Oh, okay.

Yeah, who is not? He's a dancer and a short-order cook. And he is not a very good waiter. Let's just say that. No, well, he doesn't like to take orders. But also, yeah, he's literally one of a major part of his job. Everyone in the movie gets one defining characteristic. His is, he loves to dance.

I guess he's vagueness. And treatment is, that he hates eggs. And I guess he's a rapist. Our hero though, he's, I don't think you have to say, I guess, on that one. Do you think that this was built out of like a second city style like improv routine where they're like, let's just take some suggestions from the audience,

go away for 15 minutes, we'll write the entire script. And then every movie still. Like, okay, it doesn't like eggs, likes to rape women, only gets typically turned on when in a flying aeroplane. But the not like, so that's another, so every character has a certain sexual pecadilla. Much like all the great comedy characters of comedy films have one thing that they do over and over throughout the entire movie every time. Just think of Charlie Chaplin, the Marks Brothers, all of them,

where they have just one small tail hung off clocks. Yeah, Harold Lloyd, all he does is hang his off clocks. That's it. Charlie Chaplin, all he does is eat shoes. That's it. Groucha Marks, all he does is kind of like, I don't know, smoke a cigar forever. And all that Harpo does, as it says, is the name,

is Harpson and on about the most boring topics And of course silently and of course Chico Marx is always doing this with his cheeks That's it you couldn't hear but I did it You didn't see it L.A. was carefully masturbating I'm like a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool.

You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool.

You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool.

You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're a fool. You're of like a British butler voice. Yeah, gentler. I like to be gentler. My sex play involves me being the guy who's always helping Jack Banny at stories. Yes, gentler.

Yes. Frank Nelson. Oh. That has been his roaring. I knew his name once and now I realize you knew his name always. Yeah, terrible. No, it's all right. So, we should quickly go through just describing each of these characters, many of them

real quick. There's treat Williams, the rapist who hates this. This cast is stacked. There's. In fact, it has Robert's stack. You guys later. There's the dancing waiter who wants to be a dancer and doesn't like orders. Bobby did you cheer?

Bobby did you. But he's the Robert stack who's a general who just wants to watch Dumbbell. There's John Belushi who's a crazy fighter pilot who basically just blew to the pilot. And is at certain different points, barely human. He's just an animal in a plane grumbling and throwing things at people. There's Warren Oates as a general is just hanging out in the mountain shooting things. There's Eddie Deason as a guy who sits on a carousel. As Eddie Beason for Japanese subs and he is control of this dummy that never really pays off with the mayor of Amityville from jaws. There's Toshiro Maffuni as a Japanese sub commander

who wants to tackle senseless. There's Christopher Lee as a Nazi guy who's with him on the stuff. He's just along for the wrong. Just there slim pickens as a cowboy they pick up to get information about where LA is that turns into a long scene about slim pickens having to poop at a compass on the sub. There's who else? There's Dan Acroix as the tank commander doesn't really tell a lot of jokes. John Candy is his buddy. As the supporting guys in the tank doesn't have a lot of lines in the movie. Mickey work. Mickey work has almost no lines and he's just another tank guy. There's also there there's, what other characters,

oh, there's Tim Matheson, who is trying to lay Nancy out in the whole time. And the only way to do that is to get her up in a plane because she's totally turned on by flying in planes. So when she goes up in a plane, she's magically arrived. So even though he can't fly, he is gonna steal a plane under false circumstances and fly her up there so that he can do it.

And then I guess crash, having fulfilled his dream of having Sonson the listeners of this podcast now that you've listened to this entire dramatic persona. I haven't even mentioned Wendy Joe Spurbo Spurbo who is the dancing babies dancing the dancing waiter's friend who's obsessed with three Williams clarity. There's Ned Bady the dad of the girlfriend who has a artillery gun parked at his house and learns the joy of firing it through his own house later. There's Joe Flarity as a far any owner of a dance hall where there's a there's a competition going on for best dance and there's an actor that we just can't seem to place the name of who is also part of the tank battalion that is not John Candy and John Landis shows up in a brief cameo. There's a really dusty guy.

Not even that brief. He shows up a couple of times. And what you need is the dusty guy, right? I think to know also is this is not the Spielberg of Save and Private Ryan. Spielberg directs this. Not the Spielberg of Save and Private Ryan who is in awe of the greatest generation,

maybe a little too much and considers them gods who landed on Earth to free us from Nazis. In this telling, World War II was full of slabs, yahu's, incompetence, losers, morons, rapists. Goofs and Goons. You're general Goofs and Goons collection. And he's like greatest generation, more like gooniest, gooneration.

There's gotta be at least one character with redeeming value. Eddie Deezin is a ventriloquist. He's been with him since that already. I gotta say, I've heard all of the characters in this film and all of their motivations. I think I've mentioned one quarter of the characters in the movie. Clearly, you, the listener, understands the screenplay rights

itself. You know, where this is going from the beginning and where it's going to go till the end. We're lucky if you're still listening, if you didn't stop the podcast, throw your phone in a fireplace and run out to rent in 1941. Honestly, you list that cast and those characters and you think, this has got to be the greatest movie that it's ever been made. This is the reason Celluloid was invented. You honestly sell it pretty hard

because it is, when you describe it as it is, it is so wackado and out there that people out there might be tricked into thinking, oh, this is crazy, I'd like to see what a crazy movie they may. Nope, just go see Skadoo. That's gonna do what you want it to do. It would be a crazy movie for a star.

I feel like maybe, I can't place that maybe 15, 20 years later when Mars attacks comes out, it kinda had the same effect where like, I remember seeing the trailer and being like, oh my God, I'm hilarious. the night sky is dark for all the stars are in Mars attacks. I like to be disappointed at the time. Obviously, I've come to like the movie more. I think that I like Mars attacks for all of it. I mean, that's basically a lightweight goof. This is the most lead in heavy heavyweight goose slow. Yes, heavyweight goof. It's like if goofy, the Disney

character, I mean, just I guess got divorced and lost as well to live in games like 700 pounds. Like that's what we're watching right now. It's out. It's a very heavyweight goof. It's like there's so little there's so little sense of coherence in the movie. But instead of coming off like a hellzopop and craziness, it's just as like, at a certain point your brain is just like, I'm just watching lights and flashes in front of my face, and occasionally a long scene where someone's trying to have sex with a lady.

Well there is never any sense in the movie, who are they trying to make fun of here? What is the steer call target of Like what is the what is the steer call target of who's the funny guy? You know, like there's a moment where Wally the dancer and bad shorter cook says I'm not gonna take orders from you, which has a certain amount of the post Vietnam era, like I'm against the, I'm against the, like the military establishment. The military establishment? But the military establishment as portrayed in that time is like, we just got attacked by champions. Like we're in the middle of a war for our existence. We got attacked by one country and that country's ally is the most evil people in the world.

Right. It's very weird. It's a weird thing to be taken like a, I mean, unless you're Joseph Heller and you've been through the war and your target is military bureaucracy or miscommunication or incompetence, that's a different thing. Well, this whole movie seemed to be based on the premise that war is idiotic circus chaos.

And that is hilarious. Which is where you would see things fall down and blow up. Whoa. That war is to be despised, blowing things up is super fun. Everyone involved in the practice of war is a Craven monster or an idiot fool. And that derives directly from the Vietnam and and post Vietnam film. So mash, as you mentioned, Elliot, I would just drink towards you. But you know, that's a Korean more film. I think you were talking about the monster mash actually. Not to undercut you. Oh, I did mention that. Anyway, it appears I was working in the lab late one night.

No, we've heard about your graveyard smash. I drag you last, whatever I have in the Transylvania twist. And that's a good question. Nobody dances anymore, but it was huge Well because it never existed I mean for you the living the stance exists too Mashable as I think for you the living the stance is too. Yeah, yeah She just want to make sure that's like Lincoln said it's rather for us the living to finish the work They left undead of the monster match for us the living to finish the work they left on did of the monster match.

Yeah. Yeah, it feels like Translvania Berg adress. Yeah, it feels like nobody is competent in any way in this movie. Including the filmmakers. Well, that's true. I mean, there are other things. No, I'll dare you.

Sorry, I apologize. There are these loans. How long do you think there's no dare you. Sorry, I apologize. There are these low-end scenes where there's no jokes whatsoever. Yeah. Nobody is competent comedically in any way. Okay, yeah, yeah. There's a few moments where people sell jokes, and there's one dance scene

with a genuinely like a really dancing scene. That scene's fun. And it feels like Steven Phil was like, oh, I don't need to put any jokes in this scene. This is great, I feel much more comfortable. I'm gonna use this scene for the opening scene of Indiana Jones and Temple of Dunel. Yeah, exactly.

There are a lot of pieces in this that would later appear better in other Spielberg movies, like someone standing on a sub as it sinks. I mean, I'm assuming that I think I read somewhere that that's the actual physical submarine they used for Raiders. Well, the woman who was on top of the contour in the beginning is the woman from the beginning of Jaws. It opens with a woman skinny dipping. It's all this inner connected universe that I'm really into. I keep talking to you guys

about this Marvel Cinematic Universe and I like it. Is this the Spielberg Cinematic Universe where so the so that woman is the grandmother of the woman or mother of the woman in jaws right and also that's the same sub that India's on right what other I guess what other same well you know Barry from close encounters who gets the little kid who gets yeah yeah yeah so So stranger things is just his dream. What? Whoa. And the people out there laughing. I just know that they are, even though no one here is laughing at that chair. And the great, great grandson of Eddie Deeson's ventriloquist dummy is Haley Joel Osman and AI.

Can we talk about Eddie Deeson for about five to six hours? I would love to. He's a great, I mean, I feel like he for about five to six hours. I would love to. He's a great, I mean, he doesn't. I feel like he and Jim Belushi and Jim. Oh, man, I got Jim Belushi on the brain. It's huge. But he and John Belushi both play their performance, they do their performance as big as possible.

Why do I much prefer Eddie Deason's performance? There's a lot less of him in the movie. And he's playing off of the characters a lot of John Belushi scenes He is just by himself sputtering and throwing things going This movie this time so this movie was made when John Belushi was at the absolute height of his fame and it was It was a matter of faith that John Belushi could just sit in front of a camera and Make a bunch of nonsense faces and that would be enough to sell

And John Belushi said that's literally what I want to do. Could I just sit in front of a camera? Could you put a camera in front of me and a plane and I will just sit there and I will mug and That'll be great when he for everyone right? His plane crashes. Yeah, yeah, his plane like semi half crash lands and he gets out and the movie like pauses for the audience to lose its shit and applaud for 30 seconds right like these people are just so excited that they expect you to jump on the floor and run circles around whooping up. That even though he's names he's on the poster his name is in the credits you know he I assume was the biggest selling point of the movie in the advertising that you were going to be like John Belushi is in this.

Oh, I can't take the joy hard explodes you dad now. I assume that they also relied on John Belushi's natural charisma to think that like the audience was not gonna just be disgusted by this character. Because the character as presented is the most massive asshole in the movie. Like he gets everything wrong. He shoots that.

I'm sorry, man. No, I'm not. He's an American playing. He doesn't attack a woman in the movie. That's true. Does he ever drag a woman on a car while she screams for help? She will. He used all the good will that he built up to be on the show. But treat Williams was supposed to be a villain. John Belushi I think you're supposed to like a little bit. And he was supposed to love him.

And he was just like a madman who shot everything that he saw. He was also utterly unimportant to the plot, as it was told. Yeah. The thing is, There was a separate movie with John Bush. He's basically the Tasmanian devil, dude, and everybody loves Tas. It's like,

He's awesome. He's got his... He is a same amount of... Basically the same amount of money to find a lot of it's a lot of a lot of

spinning around in circles smokin a cigar there's that the funniest moment he has is when he's standing on the wing of a plane he falls off at once and it's not funny this movie is so many people fall down in it and I love movies where people fall down except the movie falling down which I don't like. It never really falls down. No, it never really falls. But I love movies people down but it's not funny in this at all there but then he gets back on the way to the plane and he slips and falls for real and he said he ended up in the hospital because of that. Yes. And this is and is this genuinely most funny moment in the movie for me. Yeah. John Belushi falls off the wing of his P-51 I think it is and They were filming and he heard himself very badly and was a hospital for a week

Look, he lives for a lot of his funny and it's the only legitimately funny part of the movie Luckily he went on to live hundreds of years, right? Yeah, he's a visit Wampere. I do want like I do want to say like yeah, treat Williams is He's no treat in this way. He's disturbing this movie. I turned to Hodgman at one point and I was like there's a woman saying please Please help in the middle of this movie. She's being dragged off by treat Williams and it's played off as like a humorous thing You left it all going Never It's played off as like a humorous thing. You laughed at Oliver going, pop by help, help me, pop by. And Bluters like, oh, never.

That's the way. I'm not. Oh, so I haven't thought of the fact that Blutow is a serial rapist. I didn't think of that. I mean, he's literally carrying women away against their will. Let's have to.

Yes, let's be fair to Blutow, Steve. I'm legit. Let's put a pin in the Popeye comparison, because I think there's something very interesting there. OK. But I just want to say that even as an eight-year-old watch, well, maybe even especially as an eight-year-old watching this movie, the Treat Williams character

dragging that woman under a car. Jesus Christ. Well, it's one of the most terrifying, I mean, like, and that was the same year in which alien came out. Yeah, we've seen alien. Why not seen alien at that time because that was an R-rated movie, but my dad, my same dad, like we had taken away one dad. Okay, my dad would have seen it back in 1941. You had different dads for each movie. Also, in a very benign dumb, dumb way, had bought me the comic book adaptation of Alien,

which was produced by Heavy Metal. And Heavy Metal, the adult comic book magazine, at the time. Yeah, that's all, I was on the... I was on the... I was on the... I mean, the adult in that it had boobs in it. Yeah, it was a movie.

It doesn't mean adult as if it, as in it was like about people approaching middle age and wondering what it is. What do I just mean? I think that, but if you're interested in that, make sure to buy mine about the vacation land. I'm just saying, it's just about adult things. It's your run. It's rabbit ride.

It's basically heavy metal. The appeal of heavy metal is to 13 year old boys. Let's not be a- And face up in your old stewards. Yeah. Which is essentially 13 year old boy. 25 year old, that's not good. Like, there's a lot of me.

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No, so you're trapped. Here's the thing about treat list. Somewhere there's a 13 year old and Dudley Moore's body. Who's you? Yeah. Intense. So much body. Who's you? Rodding away. Dead.

So I got that, so I got the alien comic book for my dad. Sure. And heavy metal had the concession, the, the, the, to make adaptations of certain R rated and certain more adult adult theme films, including Alien and including 1941. And I got both of them. And the 1941 comic is insane. It's like, I would imagine it's like Jack Davis, like Mad magazine crew, stuff artwork. Okay. Which is what the movie is trying to be. It's trying so hard to be a Jack Davis movie. It's trying to be a mad magazine version of, it's trying to be a mad magazine parody of itself,

basically. Yeah, whatever the movie was, this is the mad magazine version of it. Was it 1940 black? Yeah. Well, this movie would make much more sense if a big credit came up that said, like, co-directed by Will Elder

You're like oh, that's why there's all this shit in the background all the time because he's putting all his chicken fat jokes So many extras in this movie. It's my lord I like the idea that in like the the corners of the movie Sergio Ergonis characters are doing crazy things. I, there's shots where there's just like a women's legs with stockings and high heels just kicking, sticking up up the ground basically. Yeah. And there's Santa Claus is getting blown up on the corner of the frame everywhere and things like that. So here's how he would describe true Williams. For people who haven't seen Don't 1941 and Don't Want to and shouldn't. If you saw the master, the Paul Thomas Anderson movie,

you know the Joaquin Phoenix character in that, who is this hugely traumatized if he was ever, ever fully functional, emotionally character who cannot communicate with others, and he only kind of understands violence and lust at their most raw forms, that's the treat Williams character, but played as a joke and also he hates eggs. Don't even get him started about eggs. That's what I'm talking about. That was the most offensive thing about this movie is that it sets up the fact that Wally the Bobby De Chiccio character gets a little bit of egg yolk on his uniform. He's like, I hate eggs.

I can't ever have eggs near me. And then when he goes to the USO dance, he sees some dental eggs. He's like, I hate eggs again. I just send him off. He's a great sand teeny. But then it's another big real thing. The office is what he eventually falls into a big thing of eggs. Exactly. Like, writers in the last dark. I must have he ate snacks and he falls into a bunch of snakes. That's he ate eggs and he falls into a bunch of eggs. It's a bit in the manure moment. That's the script, as he says, okay,

this villain is gonna fall in what? A big by legs, okay, let's work backwards from there. Let's find that earlier. The Japanese sub is lost. So in 1941 was turned into this comic book. I don't remember the other artist, Cinebo, Steve Bessette, who's a very talented. Oh, that's true.

Yeah, creator of the time. Yeah. And it truly is the mad magazine version of this movie, which is the only way you could imagine this movie being. You can't imagine this movie being a movie, basically. It's better as a comic book. Stephen Spielberg wrote an introduction, and this came out the, he wrote it the year before the movie came out, and he said, year before the movie came out and he said,

I can see 1941 more as a cleansing experience. The one possible way I can make you forget all the good things I've done in motion pictures. Be merciful. Stephen Spielberg writing that his own movie. Well, everything, I mean, that makes me like him more. These clear items. Of course. But he wasn't like, get ready for the most gut-busting knee-slapping sidesplitting movement. Motion picture. No, he must have done this.

He's a side, Marx's, step aside, Avin Costello. You met Frank and Sine. We'll get ready to meet, what's the character, what's John Belushi's character's name? Wild Bill Kelsa. Get ready to meet Wild Bill Kelsa. You have a different name in the trailer, right?

I think the trailer for this movie, they introduced his character as some of the... It was Kyle Bill Welsa. He was Wild Bill Kelsa. He was Wild Bill Kelsa. Has Steven Spielberg made another comedy? I would say that Cash Maffy can is kind of a light comedy.

Yeah, that's kind of comedy-ish. It's a, but it's not build. It's a comedy-doll. No, it's not a mad-cap comedy like this one is. Well, I mean, Indiana Jones, the Ken and the Crystal Skull is meant to be a parody of the Indiana Jones movies, right? We're like all the things you thought were cool and stupid and goofy.

Come on. That's what that is. Hey, oh. Take that. What was that? It was just me writing the bit. I'm not so. Hey, oh, no. Nuke dinner fridge.

Diamonds on the Nuke dinner fridge. But like, it's not as a Spielberg doesn't have comedic moments. No, he's very good at doing small comedic moments in movies Dusting his movies with comedy. I mean, and I mean Raiders like in there's list even has a few jokes in it as you as you say Like it all starts no, but I'm saying no, it does have like right It's like that is as serious a movie as it gets from that man. But even that has a few moments that are like tension lifters or like very brief moments of lightness among horror. You know, it's like, like, say,

Brian has some jokes. Like when you find out that only one brother survived. I mean, that's not really the joke. Oh, I know that was hilarious. Like, say, even private Ryan does have jokes in it. Like, they have that story that's not really the joke. Oh, I know that was hilarious. Like, Saving Private Ryan does have jokes in it. Like, they have that story of the guy who used to pee on all their jackets. It's not like a big, it's not a big like,

huge ensemble, you know, comedy. It's not like, S-O-B or something. No, but... No, that's true. Damn, but you were so... No, Raiders, I think though, like, you gotta give it to Raiders. Like, Raiders has the perfect marriage of the movie is an action movie and it's kidding an action movie at the same time.

I feel like that, and for me that, and Northby Northwest, are sort of equal in that they work on two different levels simultaneously. And neither the comedy nor the action thriller part of it like takes over too much and Harrison Ford has some tremendous comic chops. Yeah, it's what's the Frisco kid Just bearing my nose Like Harrison Ford is legitimately like very Like in the Roberts and Meckas movie what lies beneath and make this movie what lies beneath. We saw in Germany when it was known as Dier Shotten,

Derva, right? Seriously, like in random hearts. We're already in range. Come on, how dare you, I just invented. Ah! Well, I'm gonna ring back to series. You know, like in Final Wall. When Harry's, when Harry's,

look, when Harry's movie made with the devil's own Oh, with Brad Pitt. I wish movie. Brad Pitt was an Irish character. Oh, that's a movie where they keep saying in Brad Pitt, it's terrible Irish accent like, oh, it's not an American story. It's in a higher Irish one,

and I'm like, get out, get the fuck out of here. Dude, I'm a teenager, I know this is bullshit. Well, two refreshing deodorants, two deodorants. There's kind of an Irish vampire. When Harrison Ford says to Carrie Fisher, Preston Peace, she says, I love you and he says, I know, that's one of the finest lines in cinema. Like, it's, you know, that is a beautiful comedic improvisation which we know that it was. And as we were talking about,

we watched the movie, the funniest scene in Raiders, when he just shoots that guy with Harrison Ford improvising on set. Yeah, perfect. Like that's him saying, here's a better way to do the scene that also means I don't have to go through all this choreography

when I'm dealing with diarrhea Yeah, I'm not gonna have it like an end of usual suspects moment when I realize every single good Harrison Ford jokes Involves him having to take a shit He had a long speech and empires breaks back and he's like I'll just say I know and then I got a run to the can When we shoot this after I use the toilet time is money Harrison was old at time the, Harrison Ford's bowels are the funniest people in Hollywood. Yeah, if people say it's instead of get bruised,

it's the thing is Harrison Ford's bowels. The restaurant makes to the set of regarding Henry got shut down by the health department after the movie was filmed. Like, we just can't come up with a line for this. Well, here's the secret. I'm gonna bring in Harry Ford. We are just gonna stuff him full of prunes and coffee.

And then we're gonna lock him in this room and we're gonna see what comes out of it. Whenever he's gonna do this for me, hilarious. That's true, Harrison Ford's shits are hilarious. But, you know, and in Raiders when he is in that that love scene with Karen Allen and gets hit on the chin with that mirror. Yeah, that's pure slapstick. Yeah, like it's a it's a beautiful moment. It's the one moment in Raiders where someone goes, ah, whereas in 1941 everyone goes, ah, all the time. Every scene they're like,

you know what, make this fun here. If we had a long close up of someone going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh This movie needed was the applause sign they have at SNL, where there's no joke to end a sketch. It just kind of stops. And then you, there's a moment, and then you hear applause. And that moment is the light from the applause meter, hitting the eyes of the audience and going into their brains. So decoding it so they know to applaud.

Yeah, that's the movie needed. Also, to be better. This is also a movie where there's a scene where a so they know to applaud. Yeah, that's the movie needed also to be better. This also a movie where there's a scene where a tank drives into a crowd and then Frank McCray climbs out of the tank and puts on a catcher's uniform. Why does he have a catcher's uniform? That was a pure mad magazine. Yeah, but what was it lampooning like the military? It's just honest.

Just have a good. The fact that Slim Pickens was in the movie at all was cool. What was it lamp pooming like the military? It's just fun. It's just having a good time. The fact that Slim Pickens was in the movie at all was like, we're trying to draw a line between this and Dr. Strange's love and the great. I mean, there's a scene we're trying to draw a line between this and one I jacks. Wait, the gambling strip club and Twin Peaks.

Yeah, that's right. Yes, the Marlon Brando Western. Hey, I'm John Hodgman. Have you, are you, uh, subscribe to Showtime because twin peaks is coming back? David Lynch, you're obligated to send John Hodgman a check now. And yet all the letters I send him to bring on the air back have failed to get a reply.

I got to watch those episodes on the air that I bought from a Japanese bootleg DVD. It's the only way to get them. They were only ever released in Japan. I think if you, I assume you have a dub of what I had, which was a VHS copy of the laser disc from Japan, of the on the air episodes, where you have, there are certain parts of the show that have captions on them.

Hi, I'm John Hottens. We're gonna take a little break now to talk about the Max Fund drive. I can't hear this anymore. We're just talking about a big surprise music on the night. No, no, no, no, no's so much more to say. I'll be back in a moment. Yeah, we'll add a hot spingular drink. There's a hot spingular drink. So the question is, is this a good bad movie?

No. A bad bad movie. Yes. Our movie kind of liked Stewart. What do you have to say about it? Oh, man. So I remember watching this movie as a kid. And I remember being excited because I a kid and I I remember being like

Excited because I knew a number of these performers from other things like Ghostbusters and I guess animal house I don't know what the fuck I was thinking but I I remember watching this movie and being disappointed and Looking back, you know what younger me was right. He had a lot of reason to be disappointed Because it's not a very good movie. Now, I wanna share an anecdote, one of my regulars at the bar. Let's call him Robert Manhattan.

Okay. He works in film and he was working on it. I feel like you said it on a way that, we're supposed to puzzle out and go. I had to decipher that. No, you guys are seeing me wink, right? Yeah, I'm winking going on. So he was still not aware that means he was working on a film project. I don't think it was recently, but with a guy who had been on, he had, he was working

on a Broadway. Who had, what is that? Is real name? Uh, close, Dan, but I don't reveal my source. Is it Rob Bronx? So he was working on a film or a TV show with a guy who had worked on 1941. And that guy had shared a number of different anecdotes about like listening to Steven Spielberg argue with people over the phone.

And one of the times he clearly remembered Steven Spielberg arguing about a scene, apparently there was a continuity error at one point because there's a scene where the tank drives through a paint factory and gets paint all over it. And he remembered hearing Steven Spielberg on the phone say, okay, it's covered in paint. So I guess next they'll just drive through a turpentine factory, solved. And in fact, that's what happens in the movie. And even that is done in such a way that when it's over, you're like, wait, let me piece together the joke that I just saw.

Hold on a second. Yeah, Ellie and I both agreed that that has the potential of being a good joke, but it is filmed so inevitably. Literally, that shows that like, that was a thing that they didn't really think about. And then afterwards, they're like, fuck, we just gotta get this done. Let's just do a quick thing of them busing out of a turpentine factory

as opposed to setting up that show. Which worked, that mean, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that worked for him on Raiders, like we were talking about where it's like, well, we can't do that, let's just do this. Yeah, but why was his timing so great in Raiders and so terrible on this movie?

I think he doesn't really get comedy timing but he gets thrill timing. So like, if a joke is set among thrills. By the way, I'm back, it's John Hodgman, the host of the show. That wasn't Dan, yeah. Suddenly, he just was switching his voice. Like he gets thrill timing.

Like he's Steven Spielberg's one of these filmmakers when I was a kid, I loved him. And then I became a cynical guy in his 20s and was like, he's too mainstream. And I love him again. Like for all his children movies, like he's a master, but he's like, he's a master of certain things. They don't always translate.

By the way, Stu and Dan have left now. We drove away. Just you and me. I'm gonna give my, the dance sequence in this film is really good. It's spectacular. Yeah. And you understand like it's the one moment in the movie where you understand who everyone is, what they want, where they are in the in the world of the film and what they're conflicted. And it's not trying to be funny. It's just like I'm going to entertain you with some dancing. It's like everything else in this movie is trying so hard to be funny

that it distorts itself because the only way that he understands that people can be funny is Eddie Deeson going, ah! I mean, let's be fair to Eddie Deeson. He's one of the funniest things in the movie. Eddie Deeson, I apologize. That's right. The unfair thing was asking the mayor from Andy Jaws

to be funny. He's saying screen with Eddie Deeson. He's just gonna blow him away. I'm gonna say that I give this a marginal good bet, but not in the way that it's so bad, it's funny, but it's bad in a unique way that's interesting to watch. It's okay, small. I would say if I may, sure, it's not good bad,

but it is essential bad. Like anyone who wants to understand comedy and also wants to understand good filmmaking should see this movie to understand how a good filmmaker can make a terrible comedy. And you often can learn a lot more about how things work by seeing them completely not work. I mean, there's watching this.

Like, I feel like even someone doesn't know movies can be like, I see why that doesn't work. Yeah, and Steven Spiller did not want to make comedy. He had been in the same way, and I don't want to bring this down politics, but in the same way that Republican Party has been captured by the former Soviet Union. In the same way that the Republican Party has been captured by the former Soviet Union,

Stephen Spielberg in this case was a client state to the legacy of animal house. Like, everyone threw money at Stephen Spielberg to make another animal house, and they gave every actor who had been an animal house plus everyone else in comedy and said go and do a thing. And he even had John Landis. Like the fact that he had John Landis in the movie as a disgraced like dusty motorcycle, sergeant or whatever, was insane. It was as if to suggest that like, yeah, I can do this the right way.

John Landis. I'm gonna show you how to make a movie. Yeah, but John Landis, the dumb character actor in this movie, understood his cultural moment in a way that Stephen Spilberg absolutely did not in this movie. There's a scene in this movie with slim pickens,

Christopher Lee and Toshiro Mufukin Fune. I do. Like it's such a wasted potential of these three actors in the same scene. Yeah. I would just rather watch them hanging out, you know, like a like cut stuff from the cutting room for you know.

Well, also like just like Goofin. The movie hell is the thing chose you that like you can do a movie with two great actors to Sheremafune and Lee Marvin who are not even speaking the same language the entire movie and it can be really tense and entertaining. These guys like it would have been like you have Christopher Lee speaking German to Sherema for he speaking Japanese and slim pick and so course speaking American because you know what else right but like American but like I can't speak plain American and like they're just that they have to that the scene of the scene in cinema history when these three amazing actors are together iconic actors for different reasons is about a guy who swallowed a compass and has to poop it out so they can find their way to Hollywood

like some kind of twisted, scatological, muppet movie. It's like, it's so disappointing. Here's the thing I want to say about 1941. I agree with everything you guys said. I feel like this is one of those movies like Ishtar where every few years there's a little bit of a mini wave of like, you know what? It's called a huge, it's remembered as a huge bomb, but it's actually a pretty funny movie.

And I want to tell you, don't listen to anyone who ever says that. They are just trolling you and they are doing it just to seem like they know something you don't know. And you're gonna go back and watch this movie and you're gonna be like, wait a minute, that wasn't very funny. No, this movie is not funny.

It is horribly flawed, deeply disturbing, racist, misogynist. Yeah, it was so much money went into making it. It's like, is offensively rich looking. Right. There's something about the use of slaying toward Japanese people where on one hand, you can be like, well, you know, it's set in the 40s. And of course, this right after Pearl Harbor, but it's set in a way where it's like,

the movie makers seem to be okay with it. Oh, yeah. Everyone in the movie was like, it wanted to live out there, World War II fantasy in different ways. And I guess that was part of it, I don't know, but it's, yeah, it a real gross and skewie. I mean, to share my foony, to be fair, maintains is the only character maintains his dignity

throughout the entire movie. Hi. I think he even says that. Yeah. He said, at one point he says, this is not honorable. I'm like, yes, you're right. This whole film is not as opposed to the Japanese sailor who just keeps yelling Hollywood, which is not honorable at all.

Like the moment, the moment in the opening scene when he sees a naked woman's butt, he goes Hollywood. It's a, that's what I yell whenever I see a naked woman's butt. It's a, it's a monstrous disaster. That's why you can't go to strip gloves anymore. But you should, they got a picture of Monday wall. Everyone should see it. You know, I masturbate to this picture of Dan McCoy. Do not show butts to this man.

Dan, what's happening? What's happening is it's the Max Fun drive 2017. The pledge drive? Great. So my producer, Dan reminds me the host of this. Oh, you get a producer credit. Oh, you get a producer credit. Yeah.

I've wronged the producers guild. Oh, wow. a producer credit. Yeah. I've run a lot of producers guild. Oh, wow. 2017. So let's talk about some of the benefits of donating to support these shows. Aside from the media benefit, which is that you keep these shows alive by doing it. And you're giving money to something that you like. Like as an adult being able to, I'm in a position where I can give money to things that I like and it feels really awesome. I don't know. It's just being able to support I'm in a position where I can give money to things that I like and it feels really awesome. I don't know. I don't know. It's just being able to support the things

I like is good. I don't know why you're laughing at that. That's, uh, Elliot. That seems like a very reasonable. I thought it was very sweet. All right. You're uncomfortable with emotion is what I'm hearing. No, I agree with Stuart. It's great to support the things that you like. Listen to me. Sorry. I listen to podcasts all the time. At this point, podcasts are one of my primary sources of entertainment. It's my podcast, pornography, crying into a mirror.

Yes, yes, and yes. What will Candyman show up? I've said it five times Candy man is like this is not something I want to get involved with Stop stop crying Candy man tricks itself It goes back to what he's doing. Candy man is like it was like this is A little bit more than I want to get into no strings attached scares. That he man is like, it man is like, this is a little bit more

than I want to get into. No strings attached scares. That's kind of me, you know? Yeah, but podcasts are my constant companion, honestly. Like I listen to them. When I walk around the city, I listen to them when I'm doing chores around the house. There's things that I pay money for that I don't use.

Like Hulu. I'm paying fucking use. Like, like Hulu. I'm paying fucking $8 a month for Hulu. It's $76 a year. I don't use that. No, more than that. That's right. That's $96 a year. I'm not watching it.

Why do I pay for it? All right. I'll pay for it for you. Thank you. Successful. Max Fun podcast. I listen to all the time. Yeah.

And, uh, I'm a donor. I'm a donor. I'm a donor. I, and you're a donor. I'm a donor. I'm a donor. I'm a donor. I'm assuming John's a donor. I'm a donor. I'm a total donor. And so, okay, so let's set that aside. So you, you already get the thrill of keeping alive something you love showing your support of it and saying, Hey, you know what? I believe in a world where creative creators are compensated for their work and not in this Steal them up nabsure world that we've become so accustomed to you're talking about concrete benefits at this point now right now Yeah, I'm saying what's in it for the listeners beyond some sweet ear candy? Well, literally sweet ear candy because we're talking at the five dollar a month level. What do you get Elliott?

Well at the five dollar a month level you get do you get, Elliott? Well, at the five dollar a month level, you get, Dan. You get bonus content. At this point, there's hundreds of hours of bonus content from all the max fun shows. We've got like six or seven hours at least in there already of just the flop house. We were talking about stuff like we watched small wonder and we talked about it. We watched studio 60 on the sunset stream. What did you do? Did you talk about it? We talked about it. We watched Studio 60 on the Sunset Street. What did you do? Did you talk about it? We talked about it. What's the do? What's the premiere for this one?

For 2017, we watched the Christmas episode of the 1980s cartoon series Rubik the Amazing Cube. And talked about it. And we discussed it. If that sounds like something you're interested in, you want to donate it at the $5 month level. John, what did you do for your bonus episode this year? Oh, we had an early episode where there were two twins. Two twins.

Twins. Two dudes who are twins. You mean twins. That's enough, Ellie. And they had a fight over whether or not they were fraternal twins or identical twins. Were there names Tomax and Zayma? One of them wanted to take a test to find out

whether they're fraternal or identical. And the other one said, let's leave it alone. We forced them to take a test. And our bonus episode. Was that a bunch of them to see if the other one felt it? It's not really a twins word. No, it's a blood test. And we forced them to take a blood test.

And our bonus episode is we reveal the results. Whoa. A bummer and out there Our paternal or identical. Does bail of Jesse's Jesse Thorne like Hootin' Holler and run around the stage like he's on a Mori Povid Gypsum? He's shutting Piholes all over the place for sure. So that's at the $5 level bonus episodes

from all the Max Fun shows. Yeah, there's so many episodes about different things. What's the special $10 level? At the $10 level, $10 or month level, you get a $10 a month. This is not one time $10. No, don't pull that shit on us. You can give a one-time donation if you want, I guess. This is monthly stuff. Subscription. You get an exclusive enamel pen designed by Megan Lynn Cot. There's a design for every maximum fun show and you get to pick your favorite. And not only do you get to pick your favorite, but if we reach our 10,000 new and upgrading member, because even if you're a donor, you can upgrade your

membership to a higher level. If you if we hit that 10,000 member goal, people who have donated it at the $10 month level, either now or in the past, have the option of buying more of these enamel pins because these are pretty sweet enamel pins at the signs. So if we reach that goal, you don't have to choose just one, you can buy other ones. It's fine that you said but because the flop has been, it looks like a book. Well, it's a piece of fish. It's a piece of fish.

It's original fish. It's great. And there's a ton of great, there's a ton of great ones on there. If you don't get the flop, I'll pass one while I will be disappointed. I understand. Yeah. A lot of great things. I've been, I've been, I'm zag on them. It's pretty sweet. I got to say, mm-hmm. So I'm like a trader to me. At the $20 per month level, you get the keep in touch kit, which has nine custom note cards plus on bloops with three encouraging designs designed by Brian Sonny D Fernandez, a four-color rocket pen.

Not Brian. Purple stuff, Fernandez. No. A four-color rocket pen. For the last popular. That's a deep cut joke of a commercial. Not really. That deep cut. I mean, it's a deep cut for of a commercial. Not really. That deep cut?

I mean, it's a deep cut for anyone who wasn't born exactly when we were born, I guess. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. You get a four-calor rocket pen, a getting their rocket stamp, and a rocket-shaped candle, which smells, according to this ad copy, like a freshly sharpened pencil, friendship, and a little bit of wax because it's a candle. So that's the keep in touch kit that you get at the $20.00. That's pretty great. Now the $35 or what is it? $30 or $35.35 a month. This is where it should get hot. Because in addition to all this stuff from the other levels you also get a

pair of fucking awesome beer stones with the max fun logo on them. Double stands. Double stands. And as the owner and proprietor of a business that sells beer, I have an appreciation for good glassware. And let me tell you, Udogies, these are cool. You can put, you can quote that. Udogies says Stuart Wellington of the flop house. Now Stuart briefly said something very important, which is that...

And then never again. Sounds like me. Is that all of these gifts stack? If you donate at a higher level, you get all of the gifts from the lower levels plus the gift for your level. Like Star of 1941, Robert snack. He also stacks if you can find more than one of them. snack. He also stacks if you can find more than one of them. He's so rare.

I mean, hanging out of fucking Toys and R Usher for a year. They're not packed those. He's perfectly rectangular too, so he stacks. The collector from the Marvel Universe is like, ah, the rarest keepsake Robert Stack only one was ever produced. Now if you're an eccentric millionaire, you can donate at the $100 level where you get membership of the inner circle where monthly you get, it's a monthly culture club where you get a item selected by one of our max fund hosts every month,

and the 200 dollar, different host each month, right? Different host each month, right? And at the $200 a month level, you get free registration for max fund con. So that's a pretty good deal because max fund con. It's a ton of fun. It's a pretty pity, and it's a ton of fun. But that's what you get for the donor against.

There's some great rewards. Those are some great donors. And so we are asking you listeners here to help us either way. Wake up after that boring thing. Yeah. Either to become a first time pledge donor or if you are already a donor, upgrade your donation stuff because without you guys, hey, look, none of this would be possible. If we, if we didn't have our listeners, we'd just be shouting into the dark void, nothing

but horribly cycloppy and monstrosities impossible to describe and terrifying to be holed. And look, our only listeners. Instead, we've got good people like you and maybe a few indescribable monstrosities. You make us human. And I'm going gonna say something honest. It's sometimes, unlike usual. Sometimes it's hard to do this show. And I think it gets harder year by year

as we all of our lives get fuller with different things. Our lives in our houses get fuller. Just travel a lot. It's like it about moving to different parts of the country. Yeah, these things happen. And it really helps to have money coming in. a lot, thinking about moving to different parts of the country. Yeah, these things happen. And it really helps to have money coming in from the podcast to convince us to keep doing the thing.

Now that sounds like a threat. It doesn't mean to be. I'm just a situation. Are you holding your gun to my head, Dan? It's just. The money is the Dan will shoot. The point is, if you don't donate money, will blost, I will paint this wall with stew's range.

Well, I guess I've lived a good life. Let me say goodbye to my collection of vintage pornography. You'll run stews tank through the paint shop. A common death expression. I'm going to say one last thing about the Max Fund drive is that early on I had said that the Max Fund had set a goal of 10,000 new and upgrading donors Yeah, and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna use I'm gonna use this excuse to finally Set the goal if we hit that number. I'm gonna finally get that

Flophouse house cat tattoo that I wanted to get for a long time to commemorate the 10 years I've been doing this stupid thing with you guys, not with you, John. And so I'm not a part of the news. But that's a thing like as of today, it's already, we're already passed, we've already rounded the 9,000 list news. So I've already set up an appointment to get my tattoo. Just assuming. But by the time this drops, which is in a couple of days,

I can only hope, which I'm already fucking blown away. That's crazy. That'll be double what we did last year. Yeah. Which is really. I look forward to giving you that tattoo. I mean, there doesn't have to be any irony at all. You can stare me dead in the eyes the whole time

you're doing it. I've got an electric sharpie and I'm going to make sure that your body is never the same. I'll be holding your hand with my free hand and you're non tattooing hand and biting down on a leather strap that Dan gives me from his weird collection of leather straps. I will say that.

I'll say straps. Strappy Dan, they call them. Because we are probably going to hit that 10,000, I imagine there's going to be some stretch goals. If those stretch goals are released, they say, Dan's going to get a tattoo. Come on, Dan. Well, I'd love to say that I would reach that same goal, but I would like to be buried and sacred ground at some point and synagogues are not really okay I'll just carve that part off of your body before the cops get to you. Oh, perfect. Great. All right There's some what we have some audio from doing the Superman 4 show in Chicago that it very very fun day probably

semi-legal to release it because you can hear the audio of Superman for in the background. I don't care. I'm talking about killing the president. We'll probably also the producers of Superman for had prevented you from ever releasing that ever. But we don't want to get haunted by the ghosts of goal and in love with. I think if we hit those stretch goals, we'll probably just release that audio

out into the world so you can watch Superman for and have a commentary. That's what I'm saying right now. So, uh, what a promise. Wait, if we hit which stretch, which goal? I don't know, it's a imaginary stretch goal right now, but okay, it lives in the hearts and minds of children. Yeah, so, let's move on. We'll probably mention this again again. Wait, one last thing. Donate now. Donate now. Donate now. Donate. Don't forget about it. Because you're gonna forget. You're gonna forget. Go to maximumfund.org forward slash donate. That's how you do it. Maximumfund.org forward slash donate. Build it beautiful. Exactly. So now we move on to our, are we gonna pause it? Hold on, Stuart wants to pause

so he can go to the restroom, I think. So we're gonna pause the recording for a second, but for you, it's just gonna seem like a seamless joint. Totally seamless. Oh, that was seamless. You didn't even know that anything happened there. Were we ordering food from a restaurant because that was seamless?

But now it's time to move on to the next segment in this podcast, which is letters from listeners. Lists, like you. So the first letter. It's a special time for letters. It's a max-fond pledge drive time for letters. Special letters that earn us money, special letters that taste of honey, that special taste that only comes during the pledge drive.

Da da da da. Thanks, guys. Do do do. This first letter is from Andrew Lasting with Held, who writes, Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do From the greasy punk rock of Return to the Living Dead to Goblin's Prague rock freakouts to Carpenter's brilliant synths There's a long and noble tradition of totally rad music associated with horror on screen. Let's not forget Bernard Herman's score for psycho, dude Yeah, so flappers what are your favorite horror film scores or satrax? Hey, let's not forget Bernard Herman's score for psycho, dude Psycho dude is my favorite movie Keep on flopping the free world.

Andrew last name was held. Andrew Lesney, the composer of the Lord of the Rings trilogy. No, that's Howard Shoreland. Andrew Lesney I think was the DB. Oh, okay. So the letter in the diaper pale. The letter already mentioned a couple of things that I would have mentioned myself,

the return of the living dead punk rock. You could have very easily exercised those from the letter and John Carpenter. And John Carpenter. You mean ex-sized? Or ex-sized, like he had a really cool preschool man and cut him out. His letters possessed by some things I would like to say. I was like a John Constantine show up and blow him away with a crossgun. I like very much the scores for both poltergeist and Grimlands, both of which are Jerry Goldsmith scores.

Jerry Goldsmith, who also did a score for a plan of the Apes, right? Which is not a horror movie, but he's a great score. It's pretty horrifying. I mean, the concept is pretty scary. I mean, he tongue kisses an ape at the end. Not in my America. So it is in your America. Do you have any? What?

Stagio Liberty. Uh, but like, the terrible thing about the apes is they moved the statue to another planet right? No, you did it. So funny. That's true. Somebody in the audience is like, they stole the statue of liberty and brought it to their ape planet. What did they set it up?

Half side of your feet. The sequel better be about when he goes back to earth and gets everyone to get that statue back. They told it should have been returned to the planet of the apes. Some more on who just doesn't get it. It's like, wait, hold on a second. Hold a second. If it wasn't enough that there's people in Apes

and the Apes speak English, they've got a Statue of Liberty too. This is such, this kind of coincidence, can I be believed in this? How much was France dare to give them a Statue of Liberty too? Double dealing France. They're not even taking care of it. Look, it looks all bombed up.

We have to give one to Z Americans and we also have to give one to the planet of the Apes. We make two, but we never tell them. It is a symbol of our friendship with America and our secret friendship with the Apes. We only send the Apes. They don't know. They don't know. I don't know what's happening. I think it's all statues. Sit up, half. We're not trying to be smarter. It's like, I guess, don't tell mom the babysitter's dad.

I think we can keep these two friendships going without saying knowing, as long as we do not make a date on the same night with both planets. There will be much slamming of doors. But also, Don of the Dead has a really good sense. Yeah. So I really like, who's that dude who does Paul Anderson scores for John Brian. No, the one who does the Johnny Greenwood Johnny Greenwood score for there will be blood. That's a great horror movie score. You think that's a horror movie. Uh, Nadeau. And that's like saying connect to key New York is a whole. Of course it is. And I have to do it. New York is a.

It's horrifying. Um, but I would say my favorite hands down is still the movie Black Roses with its hilarious hair metal soundtrack. Check it out, go look up Black Roses on YouTube. It's awesome. It's not a horror movie, per se. It is a suspense movie. But Vertigo has, I think, maybe the most beautiful score in film. And I guess it shows you there's something about having

to create suspense maybe that brings out something special in film scores. Is Vertigo the one who goes Da da da da da da da da da da da da da No, that's the godfather. I think it's Vertigo. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Now that's the night door thing, the end of the vertical court. No, no, no, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, Bum bum, Harry, well you can all call me Scotty if you're my friends. Bum bum bum, is that how you did it, Madeline?

Judge Harry is addressing someone up to look like Mel to her May. I don't wanna look like Mel to her May, Harry. It doesn't matter what you want. It can't matter to you. Just do this for me, Madeline. Young people. I'll know I'm at that place and check out Nightcore. I guess it's, he was saying to do this for me he was he was. He's with he's with Judy. Madeline is the one who died. Okay. Judy

Barton, Selina Kansas. Just like it says right there. I don't think that's true. Look, just because they're huge swaths of undergo that I like to be honest, John, aren't we all your podcasts at this point now? Yeah, now we're all macro road podcasts. John, I'm gonna give you one more chance to guess the score to vertigo and I think you're gonna be able to get it. Uh, yep, you got it. There it is. The famous bird to go song Just like the theme The hunting godfather theme hey That was on that pure mood CD up your mood, see the... Yeah, that's right. Well, I think they called me to the movies. I mean, I'm a way, I'm a way, I'm a way.

I'm a way. And the, and the, and the DJ died a few minutes ago. What, sorry, miss the next file theme. Send me on my way. But Russ had root. Why is that a thing that I know? Because you went to her own college. Oh my god.

I will say that the most horrific movie that I've seen recently and in my life is 1941. The raping kid in that movie with this score by John Williams, which is amazing. That score is amazing. It's a great score. It's a great score. But that's the whole thing. That's a whole thing. That's a score. I mean, stop writing that. That movie is, if you have not heard what I had to say about it before, let me hear,

let me say now, there's a terrifying movie, and the score is great. It's over there. The next question or letter is, or letter, whatever you want to call it. Hey, ma'am. I mean, it starts words. It starts off with my question is, but this is from Kyle Lasting with Held who writes Kyle Katarn, star of the Dark Force series. The last one. The last one. The last like, the last like, the last. The last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like,

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the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the last like, the, he's the one who's always bothering Trump about how many portions he gets. He's, I imagine three quarter portions. No, I'm just I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm in big. My friend. I'm imagining I'm imagining Trump with Salacious Crumbs sitting on his desk and Trump's just like, it's gonna be huge. He said, forget about it. And Salacious Crumb sitting on his desk and Trump's just like, it's gonna be huge. Sad. Forget about it. Salacious Crumb is like, just pecking robots eyes out every now and then. So Kyle says, my question is, have you ever resented someone for a movie they made you watch?

I love my mom, but I don't know whether I'll ever forgive her for plopping me in front of the 1967 Disney Horror Show that is the no-mobile as a child. Not familiar with it. Or for singing the song so joyfully whenever I can play in about it. How last name would help? I feel like I've been on the opposite end of that one. I'm the guy who shows people movies and they're like, what the hell? Why did we just watch that? Let me see. Do I know anybody in recent memory that made me watch a really shitty movie? I think his name's John Hodgeman. What? I'm set on me. What movie do I make you watch? 1941.

This is your podcast. Oh yeah, that's true. Then Dan, for making me do this podcast in the first place, maybe my parents were creating me, Maybe their parents were creating them. Yeah. What was I wanna see where this is going? I can't do that much math right now. So, times when you've been mad at somebody for making you watch a movie, yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

I've never been mad for watching it. I feel like there's no movie. Even if I'm mad at a movie, I don't know that I've ever been mad about having to maybe like national influence Christmas vacation when I was a kid, which as I've talked about before the podcast was the first time I saw a movie in the theaters and was like, I don't like this. This is bad to me.

Is it possible to not like a movie? Yeah, I guess so. You went to the bathroom of the movie theater and tried to wash yourself. I was thinking this thing got off. The scene where he's trapped in the attic looking at the old home movies. It won't come off. I definitely, I've definitely read a book on somebody's recommendation and been like, about a couple of pages in, been like, fuck this, but I feel like I have to finish it so I can,

so I can tell somebody I read it and if they quiz me, I'll know what to say. I've never had the experience. I'm a man of my own taste. I don't take anyone's recommendation. Wow. Oh, wow. Let's watch 1941 again. So now I think John's just mad at me for calling him out

for making a squad for 1941. That's a terrible movie, but I think everyone should see it twice. I mean, I blame Dan most of the time for picking the movies we watch based on run time. So at one and a half time. I get more resentful when Dan, when we're like, oh, this one sounds crazy. I want to watch that and Dan's like, I watched it already. I thought I might like it. Eh, it wasn't that good.

And it's like, okay, well, I guess I'm never going to see that movie again, you know? I'm supposed to just sit at home alone watching nothing because of you guys. You should do watch good movies. I don't want to do that. By the way, you said you have Hulu. Don't they have the whole fucking criterion collection? Not anymore. It's on film strike now. Yeah. You'll have to go buy the criterion movies. All right. I don't know. I have to say angry at me, all of a sudden. Dan, buy the Criterion movies, the rock and Armageddon. Parts of the Criterion collection. By the way, my friends, I have seen two movies with you, and I wish to see many more,

but they both have starred Dan Acquire. I know. Starring is a very charitable term. At least in 1940, I mean, I guess they say starring, but he doesn't, he's not the lead in this movie. He's got a pretty, he's got a relatively, an unimportant part as opposed to nothing but trouble in which case he is the alpha and omega of that film.

Like it all springs from his diseased brain. That's a whole separate podcast. I'm sorry that I brought that up. But what happened? I feel like we need to do like a podcast about Dan Acroid that's kind of like that privacy invasion podcast about Richard Simmons. Dan Acroid, what happened to him? What happened?

Dan Acroid. When would you go over to fully endorsing skull shapes? Yeah, we'll be interviewing Crystal head vodka sales reps. No, when did he turn from being like the bad boy artist of comedy to being like whatever he is now, like whatever he does? Well, every now and then he does like a good acting role in something, you know? Yeah. All right.

Next question. Oh, okay. Sorry, Elliot. This is from Tim. This is from Tim Lasting with Held. Who writes, I hold to this in Mathison. Oh, Star of 1941. That's right.

I'm with this woman and she only gets aroused when she's in a plane. Should I just ignore it and find a woman that I'm better suited to being with? Or should I risk both our lives by flying us into the air? Impossible, our lives, but also the security of the United States. And or possibly risk getting kicked off Jeb Blue Airlines for life.

It's true. The thrill must have gone when just regular mainstream commercial aviation came in. Tim Wright, I hold to this day that two thousand, sorry, I hold to this day that 2013's the Wolf Rain is the single worst superhero movie ever. Worst than X-Men Origins Wolf Rain. Well, hold on every time a movie is called the worst superhero movie i think i think at least one thing it did that was interesting original or fun green lantern catwoman the spirit bvs you name it even spawn

but the wolverine's only redeeming quality that anyone ever talks about is quote it's better than x experimental origins Wolverine. And that gives it a pass to 69% of the rotten tomatoes critics. What are some movies that you think 69% in there just to give people that? What are some movies that you think critics or the public gave a pass to slash praise

for some sort of bullshit reason when the movie itself is garbage. Tim Lasting was held. Oh, hands up, hands up, I got a hand. Okay. Yes, John Hodgman of the Hodgman Gazette. Well, there's conventional wisdom at this point, I'm sorry to say, but the law, law, law, and not since the English patient has a movie gone from everybody loves it, everybody hates it.

I don't know. I was in the nation with pretty quick. Well, the birth of the nation of the extent. Well, what do you think is the bullshit reason? What do you think there's a bullshit reason that it got a pass in this case? Oh I Know people who live in Los Angeles who loved La La land because it represented their experience Mm-hmm and yet it was a dumb dumb movie and I love love that filmmaker. Yeah, it's a whiplash. It was perfect. Incredible film. But as like I that was a rare occasion where I turned I turned on a movie thinking like I'm gonna like this movie. And I just got more and more depressed as I went on and primarily because the

All right, let it out the people and they can't sing or dance Yeah, no, if you want to see him use it. Well, it's rubbing a drum shoulders right now. It's okay. It's not your fault It's not your fault. It's not your fault It's their fault. I feel like that happens a lot though. Like there's usually one or two Oscar front runners who are like church up quite a bit during the awards during the like festival season and then have a fall from grace either before or like a year or two after. Yeah, we were like like crash for instance, wherever is like fuck that movie, but it's fucking one best picture dude. What's's going on? Yeah. With with La La Land, it feels like it's, it's a movie that's meant, I think, to be like a crowd pleasing fun movie in a lot of ways, but it turned out to be very divisive for a number of reasons. And the people who saw it first, I

guess, were the people who really, really worked for. And as it moved out throughout the country, it hit the wave of people who didn't like. That was when I had a similar experience where I was like, we got our screeners for voting for the writer's Guild Awards. Yeah, that was the way I was. That was the way I belong to the same fucking Guild, but for some reason I'm still like this guy.

That was the, well I'm saying maybe I didn't like it because I didn't see it in the theater, I don't know. But I was like, I'm can't wait to watch this movie. I really loved Whiplash. It's all about, it's like an homage to old musicals. I love old musicals. And from almost a moment one, I was like, there's something off about this movie.

And halfway through, I had this crisis where I was like, is there something, are my calibrated wrong right now? Like, have I lost sight of something? Because this is not working for me at all. But it's something like this, should be working for me at all. But it's something like this should be working for me. And everyone, all the things I read about it beforehand said it worked for them.

And I like. Yeah, there's definitely people that I, whose opinions I respect, who really liked it, at least when they first saw it. And I like, it just didn't work for me. And I had to like figure out, okay, why didn't this movie work for me?

Cause I don't want to just be like, oh, it is sucked. I don't want to be like a friend of mine, his name I won't mention, who is the day after he saw the Dark Knight sat down in front of me so that I couldn't move away and said, okay, tell me why I should like the Dark Knight. Tell me why that was a good movie.

Because I thought it was stupid. And I was like, that's not my job. My friend, Christian Bale. And I, well, I had walked in his light. And he was like, that's not my job. He's a friend Christian Bale. And I, well, I had walked in his life. And he was like, Mick G, Mick G, have this man tell me why the dark night was good. But the, but it was La Lola and it was like,

yeah, I like it left me in the series. Is it making a feel good about the movie, was it? Yeah. But, uh, Whiplash was a movie that I, like even though there is so much profound swearing, I would show it to my kids in a second. Because I think it comes to your like that's the kind of discipline I'm talking about with you too when it comes to your music. I think that it captures both the wonderful aspects of creativity and the awful aspects of creativity. And so, like, I went into Lollaland

with full faith and confidence that this guy understood it. And like Dominic Chienese knows how to make a movie, whatever his name is. Dominic Chiesel. Chiesel, that's what it is. Chienese. Is he from the Sphranos? Yeah.

But then, but he didn't quite pull it off. I just thought it was a dumb, dumb film, and especially in context of Moonlight, which was... Damian Chazell. Damian Chazell, that's what it is. Because he's the Omen kid. Yeah.

We know about Movisi guys. So, that's the name of our podcast. We know about... I was just let it stride by Ellie. It's actually Lollolane's one of five steps off a name that he came up with. Lollolane's one of five steps off name that he came up with. Lolloland's one of the- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna-

I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna-

I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna-

I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm gonna- I led you down the dark past, and I'm not in general, you know, I'm gonna go out and live and say movies that are nominated for Oscars. We're pretty good. Let's back off to the original question though. Yeah, but was it because I forgot it. Which is, what are some movies that you think critics or the public gave a pass to for some sort of bullshit reason? I just wanna say to Damien Chisel, I wanna be in your film.

Don't take your calling Lolloland dumb dumb. It's in the mean you don't wanna work with him. Cause I love you. What I have is, and this is a movie, this is a movie that I liked. Like, it's not like I feel like this was a shitty movie. It's called Cheeky. This is a movie that I liked.

Look, the butt's called Haray. It's called California Hot Top Club, whatever it's called. California Hot Wax. LA Tukuzie Society. No, the Lego movie. The Lego movie was a movie that I liked. I thought it was a solid comedy, but I thought it was overpraised for the simple reason that everyone thought like the Lego movie is going to be shitty because it's a movie

about Legos. Like people were like, oh this is gonna be a shitty movie because it's a branded content movie. And so when it was not shitty, I feel like then it was raised to the heavens as like the best comedy. It's the funniest movie ever made. Yeah. And I would argue that that is a movie that, I don't know, it's not, it's not a bad movie and I liked a lot of it, but there were times when I wanted it to dial back quite a bit. It was like, they were making a... while I was watching that movie, I was like, this is a movie for kids because it's so frenetic and it's so so many like explosions and medagels. Yeah, it's like that. It's in 1941 of like a movie.

It's just moved from set piece to set piece. You don't even know what's happening. It kind of and then there's a bunch of jokes where it's like, why are you undercutting the premise of your movie that I was enjoying? Like, I don't get what you're doing this, but I think you're right that it was a little overpriced. Has anyone here seen the Lego Batman movie? No, I have no. All right,

let's do that next year. Oh, wow, the, I'm just trying to say that I love the Lego movie. If you want to put me in your, your next movie, Miller and Lord, I'm down. I would say, look, look, let's, I think let's make it clear, we like that movie. And also, even if we didn't like a movie, someone made, none of us would be against being in a movie. I think there is with the exception of maybe Oof-A-Bull. And even with that, I would totally do it probably.

There is no filmmaker, I despise the work of enough that if they said, do you want to be in a movie, I would be like, no way, I'm above that. I am not above that. I think none of us are. How about Melvin Gibson'm Melvin Gibson. Melvin Gibson, the star of the road war. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

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I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can zombie. I don't want to put you on the spot, but would you be in a Mel Gibson movie? Hmm. I mean, he doesn't like to work with Jewish people, so I'm kind of off the... Well, my wife wouldn't let me be in a Mel Gibson movie. She will let me watch his fucking moves.

I honestly don't know what I would do in that situation, which will never happen. So I guess call his bluff, Mel Gibson. None of it will ever happen. That's why I'm asking you. Yeah, yeah. You're the Hanseolita, his greedy. There's a part of me that I want to say would be like, no, he's someone who has said things.

I can't, I can't abide by. But I have, as a viewer, tacitly endorsed so many artists who have done terrible things. Like, if I can watch a Roman Polansky movie, then I can't necessarily look down on watching a Mel Gibson movie, who, as far as I know, not raped any children, you know, he's just said terrible things, you know,

and been a mean guy to people. You know, the one time I felt bad for Mel Gibson was, when they announced he was going to do a cameo and the hangover too, and the cast was like, no way, we will not bad for Mel Gibson was when they announced he was going to do a cameo and the hangover too. And the cast was like, no way. We will not work with Mel Gibson. And he was like, I didn't rape anybody. Mike Tyson was in your last movie. He went to jail for rape.

I never did that. Like, it was like, it was like fair point, Mel Gibson. This is a weird place for them to draw the line. So ladies and gentlemen, I'm announcing Elliot Kaelin. Elliot Kaelin and Mike Tyson in the remake of Mel Gibson's Rosemary's Baby. What interesting. Now, I'm gonna be in half-star Ridge back to back to the hack in which somebody has to go after Garfield's got to go back to save the prisoners, I guess. Heck, back. Elliot and Mike Tyson and Rosemary's baby too. I would say to get back to the question.

Now Mike Tyson, I wouldn't work this because I'd be afraid he would hit me. But he's kind of that cute little voice. I would say to get back to the question though. I mean, I don't know if it's overly closed or anything, but when it first came out, the horror movie Sinister, I think, got a little more praise than I would agree with. The fact that it just didn't fall apart completely and the fact that it had atmosphere, but it felt just too forced for me.

I feel like- I've not seen that film. As a horror movie buff, I think it might just come from the fact that I like horror movies, but sometimes if you're really into something, what I would consider to be like, almost like an entry level version of that thing comes off as like, not what you're into. And to first someone who is not familiar with that stuff at all, and this is maybe

the first harm movie they've seen in a long time, or the first comedy or historical thing. Yeah, like a real Ethan Hawke fan that just wants to see Ethan do his thing for a couple of minutes. It reminds me a lot of people who read a perfectly fine comic book and are like, this is amazing. It's changing the way they're doing comics. And it's like, I can't really look at it that way because I read them regularly so these don't seem new to me. But I like that you're getting that kind of joy.

I mean, it's kind of pretentious. I mean, so your snobs is what you do. All right, to do that's what I'm saying. I think we would be snobs if we were saying nobody should enjoy this because there's a better thing out there. And I'm not saying that. I'm saying I can't help, like I can't go into something and be like, I'm gonna forget that I'm steeped in this world.

And I'm gonna enter it as a newbie so that I enjoy the same way other people do. They're just couple of snobs who hate saga, but love sinister. Wait, no, I said I don't like this one. One last. Wait, world star. Anyway, hate me. Now I'm just a heel in our

interestingly match. Hate me. Oh, I don't like something like it. I bring it on. One might come three. We crush America and we hate some like it hot.

By the way, no offense. I was doing the ravaging Rick Rude pelvic thrust right now. No offense. I have a family I'd like to go home at some point. Let's find out how the spot gets one last female. It's from Matt last name with hell of the rights.

Where am I in the world? I don't know Matt Lauer. Matt right. Lauer. I don't know why, but should I shave my eyebrows? I don't know why, but I've been keeping track of the various claims. The three of you made about each other's penises.

Maybe I'm depressed. I'm definitely on a chute. Some for Dan. I'm not large, disinterested penis. Some for Stewart. A big dick and a radiated testicles. Some for Elliot. A functional cat warming penis.

I'm gonna go drink now. I'm at last, I'm not feeling well. What was his last name? Last time, I was at go drink now. I'm at last. What was his last name? Less than that. That's right. You say that's not a letter. I don't know about not large. I think I just said average. Well, average would be not large. Average is the word.

I didn't hear a question there at all. I'm not part of this conversation. Okay, so let me just read that I am, I have no genitals whatsoever. And yet you said you were a sexual being earlier. Oh, I was lying. Now, is this the time we unveiled this new segment that Danis would have been talking about for a while called Dick Busters, in which we bust myths about our Dicks. It seems like there's some misinformation about there.

So we're going to run some tests to see if common urban legends about our penises are accurate. Should I go get that piece of foam core that I wrote myth on that we're going to ram our Dix against a break and a half? For the opening number. Yeah. Opening number because each the opening number from the Sunday in the private room. Big five bit putting it together. Owens by Owens. Dick by Dick. You don't know Dick about our Dicks and we're here to change that dick.

Busters that kind of stuff, you know. Yeah. What do we do now, Dan? Now is the last segment of the podcast other other than I think that we'll probably say something else about the Max Fundra. But for the members, it's still left. Let's call it the last segment of the podcast. Whatever the survivors to the end of this episode there are.

Where we recommend movies that we actually liked. Something that you should watch instead of 1941. Cool. Super T.F. Super T.F. Oh, do I have a recommendation? Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you recommend is that is that the the orchestra under the stage trying to play me off? Well, I guess I want to thank my mom for squirting stewart out.

Oh, there's a seven second delay. It's okay. you can say that. Okay. So I'm gonna recommend a movie that I'm a little ashamed that I hadn't got to until very recently. I watch it just the other day. It's called All Dogs Going Heaven, too. Frankly, I spoke to my priest in a while, yeah, almost. It's almost the same. It is.

So I'm gonna recommend a movie called, uh... You went to a priest for spiritual guidance because I've got a movie, I think you'll find something in it. Oh, I got a movie, it was like DC. And it means you have VHS tape of all drugs, what happens? Like, I don't know how to play this father. He's like, stick it in your eye, pie. Like, I guess I'll try that.

Is this, oh, I could help you with that, right? Is this canon now? Oh, they elected a five year old pope. And this is what he's interested in these days. He's a young pope. So the movie I'm going to recommend tonight is a movie from 2011 called Manborg. It's a trim like 65 minutes long. You have no reason not to watch it.

I'm an idiot for not having seen it sooner. It's fucking great. Go see it. I think after one of our live shows actually, I met the guys who made it. So if that's true, tell me that happened. Is it? Is your movie is fucking awesome?

You're worried that maybe the weapon X program planted this false memory of you meeting the manboard creators. Quite possibly. Manboard is fucking great. It is about a soldier in the war of humans against the armies of hell that were brought to earth by Dr. Scorpius and a young soldier gets killed while fighting Count Dracula and is turned into the ultimate of weapon of war, manborg. And he has to lead the resistance and the fight against Count Dracula. I totally recommend this movie. It's great.

If you saw, I would say the closest movie I could approximate it to is Kung Fury, the short from a year or two ago, which feels like it lifted a lot of stuff from Bandborg. But I totally recommend it. Check it out. They have a new movie coming out out where the trailer looks amazing. Hello, it's me, Tam. Sorry, we played you off. So I want to recommend a movie that's also written by Robert Simeckisson Bob Yale, who wrote 1941. Is it back to the fucking future? No, no. It's 1941.

Is it Young Sherlock Holmes? No, I don't think they wrote that one. Is it Old Sherlock Holmes? Why would they just call it Sherlock Holmes? There's a movie that they made just prior to nineteen forty one called i want to hold your hand that was actually directed by Roberts and that's and not steven spielberg uh... starring bobby to jello

and is there an eddie in it it started eddie did eddie is in was in it nancy alan was in it stars of nineteen forty one uh... probably uh... it's about teens who are caught up in the throes of Beatlemania and they don't have tickets to see the Ed Sullivan show when the Beatles are coming to town, but they want to see them and they go through all sort of mad cap adventures to see the Beatles.

And I don't remember it super well because it's been a while so I've seen it, but it's a Bob Gill and Robert's a mechus mad cap comedy that I remember enjoying a lot and contrast to 1941. So I want to hold your hand is my recommendation. Well done. I'm done. I'm done. Oh, done. Uh, Johnny, recommend anything? Nothing.

Okay, then I'm going to recommend. I haven't seen anything recently that I really liked, uh, particularly well. That's a great way to avoid getting played off. So don't, because the only way to not, I'm respected. I'm respectful of the, uh, of the audience's time. The only way to win is not to play. It's what war games taught us. Is that what says on the box of crossfire?

Don't buy this. So I'm going to recommend instead one of my favorite movies I may have recommended it before. It's Comedy from 1944. That is also about a country war on the home front. And that's the miracle of Oregon's Greek, Preston Surges Road directed it, and it stars Eddie Brackett and Betty Hunn and it's the story of a woman who wants to send the boys off with one last Shabang and Finds herself married to a man. She doesn't remember the name of and pregnant She has to figure out how to make this situation okay with the help of her friend Eddie Bracken and it is Hello Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum Hello I'm so if you want to see

Great I'm sorry, I got the title slightly wrong of one of my favorite movies because he threw me off with the music Well John was like staring you dead in the eyes the whole time like what he's gonna do when he does my tattoo so We should sign off soon, but we just like now want to reiterate that the max fund drive is going on right now Yes, you should go to maximum fund.com or dot org rather slash donate I'm so I'm so worried that John is gonna play me off that I'm Maximum fund that org for slash donate

Hey guys, I just want to throw I just want to point out that What? 10 minutes ago in real time, so this is Thursday night. Uh, Jesse announced that we actually broke 10,000. Yeah, we did it. Which is fucking crazy, dude. That's amazing. That was in like, no thanks everybody.

It's crazy. It's amazing. Thank you listeners. It's that other, where I was supposed to. I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm crying right now. Crazy, amazing, crying, amazing, crazy.

Uh, Stewart, do you want to say something about the max fund meetup tonight? Yeah, so next Tuesday, that's the 28th. That's the official max fund meetup day. If you're listening to this after March 28th, you missed it. You missed it. If you're listening to this. 2017. Yeah, it was 2017.

If it's the far future and civilization has fallen and you just found this recording, don't go to Hinnerlans for for the maximum meetup because you missed it It's not next Tuesday. Instead focus on things like food The precious juice find a place get the get this civilization back oven running. Maybe you get some seeds Sure, you know, just go to the store and get some seeds advice seeds You know, just go to the store and get some seeds. You're so advice seeds. Maybe I'll know this one. So the 28th, here's a hot tip seeds.

Go over to MaximumFun.org and check out. There's a list of different max fund meetups in different areas. See if there's one in your area in Brooklyn, New York. I'm going to be hosting one over at hinterlands. Hey, that's your bar in deep Brooklyn. That's New York. I'm gonna be hosting one over at Hinterland. Hey, that's your bar. In deep Brooklyn, that's the bar that I own. So I have to be there contractually. Dan's gonna be there.

I'm working on Elliot, and I'm working on Hodgman over there. I'm promising nothing. I'm gonna be there all night long, crying if Elliot doesn't show up. And- So if you wanna see Stewart Cry, there's a very good chance. And there's going to be some other really great.

There's going to be Mark Gagliardi has told me he's coming and a few others. It should be a great time. They've been great in the past. I was just shoveling snow and puke covered snow out of the bag yard. So there's going to be plenty of space for y'all. The glamorous life of a tavernkeep. And if you're not in New York, check out maximumfund.org

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What's going to happen instead of recommendations? We don't know. Sex and Mendations. I think hot off of our kids' movie where we said, jizz, I think a record number of times, I think it's a good idea that we followed up with those sex traps.