The Flop House - Ep. #254 - Kidnap

Episode Date: March 31, 2018

It's the Max Fun Drive, everyone! So put down your phones and go donate at maximumfun.org/donate, while you're thinking about it! Everyone back? Good. Because we had a lot of fun watching the Halle Berry Taken-style thriller, Kidnap, and we think you can tell. Meanwhile, Stuart details problems with his Alexa, Dan speculates unfairly about swamp folk, and Elliott reminds us all he's a father again. Wikipedia synopsis for Kidnap Movies recommended in this episode Thoroughbreds Good Time Thelma and Louise

On this episode we discuss Kidnap. Known in my house as Catch That Kid. Hey everyone, welcome to the Flap House, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey there, Dan. I'm Stuart Wellington. Hey Dan, hey Stu, nice to meet you for the first time ever. My name is Elliot, Chex Card, Caleb. Oh welcome you. Welcome to the Fl Pius Elliott.

It's a meet you. What do you, you know, what line of work are you in? Well, you know, I just ride these here rails, see what kind of adventures and shenanigans I can get into. Maybe saving lives and maybe breaking hearts. I don't know. I guess you'd call me like kind of a, a traveling, a van, a vagabond, you know, just a man of rags and patches. What? A traveling wolbury. Yeah, you'd call me a traveling wolbury.

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but otherwise stay tuned and we'll tell you more about what you can get as a donor, otherwise you just have to sit and listen to our usual garbage, which begins now. Okay, well, this is a podcast where we watch a bad movie and we talk about it. But wait, Dan, we watched Kidnap, starring Hally Berry.

Yeah. Well, I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I don't know if this fits our podcast. Yeah, it could be, could be, guys. I don't know if this fits our podcast. Yeah. It could be. Could be, guys. I don't know. I had a kind of a good time, but let's let's not. Kind of a good time. Rave Stan McCoy. Guys, do you think this movie should have actually just been called Baby Driver? Well, no, the baby is not driving. There's no baby. It's like a nine year old kid. I mean, it's a person who drives a baby around. That's true.

Okay, again, it's a grown child like, within the seven to nine range, seven of nine, if you will. It's not a baby. I mean, she describes her child as being six years old. And I think of six. Of six. I mean, I'm not a mother, guys. I know that comes to the shock.

Okay, not yet. I'm not a mother. Not yet anyway. You know, I think it would be hard for me to know that comes to shock. Not yet. I'm not a mother. Not yet anyway. You know, I think it would be hard for me to admit that my child isn't my baby anymore, you know? Well, around the time that a creep in a gene jacket steals your kid away, that's when they're no longer your baby anymore.

That's when they've grown up and it's time for them to leave the nest and go to a scary shack in a swamp somewhere. Yeah. Hey guys. A decoy gene jacket. Now, should we talk about what happens in this movie? I think that the list are almost expected at this point. Yeah, so the movie begins, guys. And I want to paint you a picture of the Wellington household.

Okay. So I've started the movie and then I say Alexa, pause. Okay. I've started the movie and then I say Alexa, pause. I told you to start the movie, Kidnap. Not a demo reel of an animation studios thing, just running through different production company logos. Yeah, Alexa goes. Also notice.

Alexa goes steward, but this is the movie, Kidnap. And I go, no. My first note on Kidnap-Nap in my notes is so many production logos. I believe this movie sat on the shelf for a few years. Like an elf. Yeah, Halle Berry was one of the producers on this. I guess this was her like trying to move

into the Liam Neeson, takin' phase of her career, but it took a while for this to get distributed. And I wonder whether that has anything to do with the production company, Sir Plus. Yeah, I'm guessing one ran out of money and then another one picked up the ball and... Like a relay race. Yeah, a real relay race.

Yeah. It was a real production bucket brigade. Yeah. Yep. To put out the fire we had in our hearts for a movie production bucket brigade. Yep. But out the fire we had in our hearts for a movie like Kidnap. Now, the movie opens up where? That's right. So the first New Orleans Louisiana. But the first thing we see is we see a lot of home movie footage of a baby growing up

to be a boy with voiceover of Halle Berry being like oh so oh yeah you can do it okay yeah come over here also sweet this is some real boy hit shit right here I was like am I watching boyhood what's going on I thought I was watching kidnap to be a fly on the wall in those ADR sessions now I will say there was this is when the movie started tugging my heartstrings purely because I also have experienced watching a boy Growing up and getting older starting as a movie like in a move how you say Like in a movie like watching like watching DJ DJ Tanner grow up. Wait. That's a girl DJ Roseanne's kid grow up Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Dan Jr

That's what DJ fuck That's what DJ stands for and the weirdest end of. Yeah. That's what DJ, uh, fuck. That's what DJ stands for. And the weirdest. Dan of the years, That's what's like, over here. The weird thing is that's what DJ Tanner's name stood for too. Dan Jr. There's not even a Dan in that family.

Danny Tanner. Oh, but wait, but then why would he name it? Wait, hold on a second. Yeah. I guess Danny Tanner is the Dan of that is the dad, right? Yeah. Dan, this is a question I have to talk, I guess. Dan, Dan, did you name yourself Dan after all the sitcom

dads? You have seen like Dan Conner and Danny Tanner? Well, yes, like most people I named myself, Elliot. That was like Prince and David Bowie. We live born with those names. No. Yeah. So John Michael Cain. When Dan was a small child, his father set out a ball, a sword, and the name Dan. And it was like, you have to pick a choice. Yeah. I've been regretting that choice for my whole life. Yeah. If you choose the sword, it means you will try to, you will try to overthrow me. And then I'll have you executed. If you choose the ball, you means you will try to overthrow me and then I'll have you executed.

If you choose the ball, you'll be the sports loving son. I've always wanted. And if you choose Dan, it tells us nothing. Yeah. It just comes along with a lot of sighing. And in order to not make a choice, you stuck your hand in the hot coals and immediately put it in your mouth and burned your tongue. And that's why you can't talk good now.

Thanks for my origin story. Yeah, a lot of mythology today, guys. What's going on? So, is it all her movies? What the fuck is this movie about? No, we established that Halle Berry is a mother and she has a son named Frankie. He's about six and she's a waitress. She's a real sassy waitress always

being very sassy, especially to the very bitchy, skinny white girl who is trying to challenge her, I guess, and what's available on the menu. She's a milk that she likes. She's a terrible customer. She's a bad customer. Do they say the customer is always right? In this case, they're wrong. Yeah, I mean, this is a retail. I feel like in a food and beverage situation, you're dealing with people, the customer, only sometimes being right. Yeah. Why is that? Why is that different? How you would think in retail, the customer would be right less often because

they're buying pre-packaged items that nothing can be changed about it. Whereas in food service, you can change, you know, what you're making, because it's all on the fly rendered in 3D in the moment. Well, I guess maybe it's because most of the time when I'm dealing with customers, they're usually drinking and I mean, at that point their judgment is suspect. That's true. Drinking does lower the level of rightness. You can expect. The only thing is I'm also usually drinking.

I have the beholder. know, yeah, maybe a strip. But you're just doing that to level the playing field, right? Yeah, exactly. See, if I weren't drunk, I would just be operating at such a high level of intellectual stuff until intellectual stuff. You're like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the customer comes up to you and is like, let me tell you something and you go, hold on. Before I best you handily in mental combat,

allow me to handicap myself to make this a fair fight. And then you just chug what, like a whole bottle of vodka. Mm-hmm. Harrison, Bergeron, brand vodka. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Okay, so Halle Berry is a waitress. The person who was supposed to relieve her for her shift didn't show up. Uh oh, so her son's with her.

But then they do show up. So she leaves. Oh, right. My turn. And so here's the thing I'm going to tell you about this movie. The first 15 minutes, I was like, this is going to be a pretty bad movie. And then after I feel like that 15 minutes was not representative of the whole thing. Because we find out that Halle Berry is divorced. Her ex-husband's new girlfriend is a med

student. Clearly he's moved up in the world because she's just a waitress. Halle Berry takes her son to one of those amusement parks that are in the movies where everything's kind of sinister. Yeah. You know that something bad is going to happen. You know the Punisher's family's about to get shot. There's one. There's one dude that asks her about her kid who is so still fit and creepy. Like when they're sitting on a, on a bench together, then I'm like, this can't be the bad guy in the movie because it's too obvious. This guy's either the bad guy or he's the bass player in a stick's cover band that's about to get along. Maybe he's in the bad guy. He could be the bad guy from another movie who just happened to wander into this movie

briefly and then left. It'll, I think if we see a Neil Brain movie, and there's a scene that inexplicably has Hallie Berry in it because he was shooting the movie at that moment too. Yeah. And that guy was a character in his movie who was sitting on that bench, then I'll be like, oh, I get it. Okay, these movies got tangled up. If that guy was wearing a, then I'll be like, oh, I get it. Okay, these movies got tangled up. If that guy was wearing a suit,

he would be managing a pro wrestler. But it was, you expected any minute this guy, you're like, oh, this guy has creep written all over him. He's so weird and off and doesn't seem like a, he's asking her about her son. And then he just kind of leaves. And you're like, okay, that was, in a weird way, it's the most off-footing scene

in the movie, you're expecting something and it never happens. Yeah, that's the thing you think about at like hours after the movie when you're lying in bed and you're like mentally cataloging your day. And then you turn next to you and that guy is in bed next to you and you go, and you wake up and go, oh, it's just just a dream and then you turn over and he's still in bed with you and you go ah you get some maybe you wake up that time too you wake up that time and you're on the

set of the Bob Newhart show and and Susanne was like what's wrong Bob and you're like I travel back in time and I'm Bob Newhart now. This is going to be great. Yeah. I got a bunch of good years. Who would not want to be? Yeah. Who would not want to be Bob Newhart at the height of his success? Come on. Well, you say you go back in time, but I think actually when you incept somebody that deeply, you keep going deeper and deeper time just goes super duper slow. Now, true, that's true. According to an academic text, I once watched.

Yeah. Now, the listener might think that we're wasting a lot of time this time around, but there's not like the plot I would call in this movie is breezy and thin. Yes. This is a movie that is almost entirely car chase. Yeah. Which is not, and not in a bad way. So, so, so, so,

A little while, I was confused because the movie was trying to make me believe that Halle Berry's son is named Marco. Okay. But it is not. They were just playing the game Marco Polo, which is something that you normally do with a kid and a amusement park. And then he gets snatched.

It's something you normally do in water, but she does it on land. And so that's how you know she's like a quirky mom. Yeah. And the kid talks into a weird robot. And that's great because that weird robot later records his kidnapper. Now this is a toy. This is like a toy phone in the shape of a robot. It's not like art to D2 is not wandering around the amusement park. We're not in the future. It's not the robot never says to Hallibary,

like follow me if you want to live. Now Robot never accidentally gets on a burger grill and gets cheese put on it. Like it's a hamburger. Because there was an opportunity, the movie began in a diner. Yeah. Yes. Sure. That's one of my top four robot movie moments. I think it's when the batteries not included robot gets cheese put on him.

Now that's what I call an impossible burger. Hey, guys, have you ever had one of those? I haven't, but now that I live in LA, everyone asks me about having one all the time. Well, you should just direct their attention to that scene, you should just send them a gift of that moment and battery's not included. So now this is what Stewart calls an impossible burger. So I'm not going to steal the joke from you. Yeah, thanks for giving credit. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not some Twitter aggregator. I want to give credit what credit to do.

Anyway, let me tell you this joke I came up with. It's about this baseball team and the baseball players have some pretty crazy names. I invented it. Anyway, so she gets a call from her lawyer and says to her son, hold on, I'll be right back. Her ex-husband wants primary custody and she highly walks away from her son to take the call. Now, she should just save that call for later. A call from her lawyer is only going to upset her.

This is supposed to be her time with her son. I know in this connected world it's hard to let go. This is right after her son's like, Mom, can I go get my face painted? She's like, no, can I go get my face painted? And she's like, no, after this song, like it feels like one of those like jazz songs that's just never gonna end. Well, that's what she knows. She doesn't want to go get his face painted

because it costs like $10. So she's like, oh, after this song, and she knows this is a jam band, that's just gonna keep going until they fall asleep. Yeah, by the time the song's done, he's gonna have a full beard and doesn't want to get face paint on it. The performers they're listening to,

it reminded me of there's a type of like amusement park or carnival performer where it's like, you want to take them aside as a parent and be like, you realize that what you're doing could be like 10 times less creepy and scary, right? Like if you didn't wear that makeup or dress up in those costumes, I know you're trying to have fun. And I appreciate that. But like, this

could be just like a fun circus musical number. If you weren't like a weirdo clown monster. I guess maybe I'm projecting too much about a a small circus that I saw in Northern California. Yeah. I had some amazing acts that between every act was interspersed a video where this weird, gravely voiced French clown talked about Like the spirit of life and love and destiny and how we how we kill those things in our soul and we don't feel joy And it would felt like it felt like between every there was like a juggler. Oh, that was great Okay, now here's a video from someone who kidnapped somebody I loved and is like putting me on a weird poetic game of cat and mouse Okay, now a tightrope walker. That was fun.

Up now it's video from the Kidnapper again. I can literally run some demands. Oh, that I feel joy in my heart. Okay, that's difficult when there's like a zombie clown monster threatening me through videotape. It was, let me just say this, circuses, you don't have to be poetic. It's okay. This isn't Europe.

End of PSA. That was my public service announcement. Oh cool. So the kid gets kidnapped, right? Do we talk about that? So, oh yeah, she come, she, she, she comes back and her and Frankie is gone and she catches, catches just a glimpse of Frankie being dragged into a car. This is after, this is after an older woman gives voice to my question, is his name Frankie or Mark? Because she's going, she's going Frankie, Marco, Marco, Frankie, and a woman does say, is his name Frankie or Marco? And she's just like, whatever and runs away.

I mean, it is confusing. Now I'm trying to find a kid that's been kidnapped. It's like, you do want to be absolutely clear about the parameters going on. Yeah, and also it but well it's it's kind of a life is beautiful type thing. She doesn't want Frankie to get too upset so she continues the Marco game. Okay, I imagine I imagine in life is beautiful. Some of the other concentration camp inmates were seeing Roberto Benini joking around and we're like wait a second. Is this is this a game? Or are we actually being is this a genocide? Because I'm being confused right now.

Like Roberto, you're really messing with my head right now because it's not a fun game. I don't like it. Yeah. And a... The game I signed up for as I do with most games. Mm-hmm. Is this a game with Michael Douglas?

Yeah. I think they're probably just assuming it's that sharp cutting level of dark satire that's common in Europe, but not so much in America. Exactly. Don't want it. No, America's life is straightforward. Make my circus happy.

Make my cutting satire not exist. Don't even do it. Okay. So, Halle Berry is like, she catches a glimpse of the car, which is kind of like an agent run down what, sports car or something. Yeah, it's a hatchback. Yeah. And without a license plate, without a license plate and she gets into her minivan.

Wait, you got to give, this is the most, I mean, this is second billing character here. This is her 2011 Chrysler town and country minivan. And if there's a better, if there's a better ad for this town and Country Minivan, I can't think of it because this thing has super pickup. It's like a dream. It accelerates amazingly. The one thing about this thing that it's like,

well, the funny thing about this movie is that whenever she accelerates, we see her speedometer go up to like 40. It's always centered around the 40 miles and I'm like, that's not that fast. It always starts to, you're not impressing me by showing me that she's going 40 miles an hour. Yeah, it always starts at like 20 and you're like, you're on the highway. You're going only 20 miles an hour. This would impress me maybe if you were driving in a school zone when children were present, but like not the problem, Elliot. The child is not present. Yeah. Just like that's true. Just like the bumper sticker reads almost mockingly on the back of her minivan, her, my mistake,

Chrysler town and country minivan, uh, that it reads baby on board when we all know the baby is not on board. No, the baby is on board another car. Yeah. So she goes on a car chase and now this car chase, this is the heart of the movie. And by the heart, I mean the body of the movie. Yeah. Most of this, and I have to admit, guys, let me just pull back a car early by the, by the moment she got in her car and was driving after this car,

this movie had me. And I was feeling genuinely tense and worried. Like, they do such a good job, especially with the early part of this car chase of her keeping up with this car but keep constantly almost losing it. And I was like, I was literally, and this is what I'm watching this while I'm doing the dishes on an iPad. And my response to it was literally like hurry up. You're going to lose your kid. Get that car.

Like come on. What are you doing? Yeah. So I was so tapped into this primal like need to catch up. You know, yeah. I was like arguing with her on like while she was driving like, no, no. Just ram it. Like I was like, I was watching this with Charlene last night

and she had been like falling asleep to the episode of Jessica Jones, we were watching. And I'm like, hey, you wanna watch a movie at 11 o'clock at night? And she's like, okay, make me some coffee. And by the time we started, she was like, bolt upright the whole time. This is like, I don't remember the name of the director

or the editor or anything, but like this is a, like this is at times, I almost feel like it's like Ronin level car chase stuff. Wow. Where they're like, they're really, like it felt very, there was a real sense of like place and reality. And even just, there's a part where the car in front of her, the kidnappers, they just start throwing stuff

out the back window They're hatchback to getting her way and I was like, no, don't do that. There's a part where And Halle Berry is so intent. There's a scene where she's like praying to God during the my note is Praise to God during the chase, but it only helps a little Well, she asked for like one thing. She asked for like her not to lose the car She doesn't ask for her child back, which is like, I feel like that's the larger issue that maybe she should have just gone for that.

She should have shot the moon. Well, I think she was, yeah. I think she was worried that she would say to God, this is my scenario that I'm worried. I think she was worried about. God, please, I want my baby back. And then all God's gonna think is, I want my baby back baby back baby back.

That's gonna be a bad baby. That's gonna be a bad baby. That's gonna be a bad baby. That's gonna be a bad baby. And then God for millennia is, I want my baby back baby back baby back baby back. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.

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and launches a nuclear war. That's the kind of thing that would happen if Halle Berry had said, I want my baby back. Yeah, I think, I think that's pretty tight. That makes a lot of sense. Air tight, yeah, air tight. Now, it sounds like at certain times, like they're trying to plant the idea

that Halle Berry is not actually sure this is happening. Like, maybe she's crazy, but then they kind of they abandoned any hint of that pretty quickly, which I was glad about. And for those of you guys listening at home that haven't watched Kidnap, what do you do and go watch Kidnap? But she, she very early, you're probably asking, why isn't she just use her cell phone? Well, her cell phone died because she didn't charge it. So guys, make

sure you carry an extra battery pack. And also then she dropped it in the street. Yeah, I love that they dropped it. I was gonna say it. They're like, it's not enough that the battery is dead. She has to drop it too. And also, and when she drops it, the movie is like, bo-boom. And like the movie is saying to like, hey, ahead of time, viewer, I know what you're gonna say should be the solution to this. Well, guess what? She can't do it. Bump, bump, bump.

I mean, have you dropped your phone on concrete? I feel like that sound always goes in my head when I do that. You're just like, no, you have to do it. This is actually the funny, this is, if this movie had gotten famous, here's the sketch I would have pitched to SNL, is that she's chasing after her son and her phone drops and smashes and she goes no and then she drives to the Apple store and is like okay do I really need like the X it seems so expensive and like she's just so much more concerned with getting a new phone than with getting her son back. No for some reason I thought your your sketch idea would be like then she pulls out a second phone that she had on her and that she drops that one and then she pulled out like an old rotary phone and drops that on the ground and she's like, that's if that one, that's a pretty good silly stuff. Mine had more of a comment about consumerism, but yours is good too.

I love later on when she gets picked up by like a weird old guy and she's like, hey, I need to use her phone and he's like, I don't have a phone. I got a radio though, but you only get reception over there. Yeah. That was so anyway, she's chasing after them. They threaten her son until she lets them drive away, but she catches up with them again.

She hears on the radio that police are looking for her car. Like she's trying to cause mayhem at a certain point so that the police will be looking for her so she can tell them her son is kidnapped. She finds the recorder that little robot, Toy Frankie, was playing with, and she hears the recording of this woman

convincing Frankie to come along with her because her mom's looking for her. We're in. Which doesn't actually add like any new information to the situation, like, she's like, it's all like, oh my God, he got kidnapped. Well, it tells you you know that there's a woman involved because it turns out the kidnappers are a man and a woman

and they are like such, this is like, even the St.Plaze New Orleans, but the man is basically Florida man and the woman is Florida woman, I guess. Like they're like this exactly the like, scraggly denim jacket wearing people you expect to be kidnapping children in the buy you Well, there's there's a sir. I feel like there's a fair amount of menace at least in the woman like there's something Oh very much so like so dead-eyed about this actress that she's she's great and it when she later on when she walks up to the car and she's like oh

Oh, it's it's pretty scary That was the first time we meet her. Yeah. So, so they, so before that happens, Halle Berry tries to fly down a motorcycle cop and the motorcycle cop's like, you're speeding slow down and she's shouting out the window, my son was kid-bapt and he's like, what? Nobody can ever hear her. And then so he's like, he's like, pull over and she's like, my son was kidnapped. What pull over? And then the, my son was kidnapped. What? Pull over. And then the bad guys slam the motorcycle cup up against Halle Berry's van with their

car and crush him to death, especially essentially. And like, it's like, well, I didn't expect that to happen. That was crazy. Yeah, I mean, it's between a speeding car and the most durable vehicle in the world, a 2011 Chrysler town in country. I mean, that's when the safety standards that you buy that car for really become a problem. Yeah, that's fair.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Halle Berry walks away without a scratch. I do expect at the end of the movie when everything is resolved. I wanna see the Apple Logged in the movie where they're arresting Halle Berry and you were really brave, but you caused a lot of mayhem along the way. And killed multiple people.

Yeah. So there's a face off with the kidnappers. The bad guy has a knife or something. She throws her pocketbook, I would call it, at him or her wallet, but he doesn't want it. And then she gets back in her car and that's when the man Kim never comes up. Like Stuart said, like just her... is there a relationship super well to find? I mean, they can definitely romantic relations. Okay, that's fair. I know, you know what? Maybe they are brother and sister, you're right. I was being very heteronormative. Maybe that's not the case. Maybe they're actually

not in a romantic relationship. Maybe they're brother and sister who are in a romantic relationship together. It's the bio who Who knows they could be doing whatever. I mean, that's a little classist. And no, no, but they're they're painted as something the boopie is classes. There's there's like, like, like, like, they might as well have like a shirt that says that.

Say like that. Stewart, there's no. Yeah, she might have a shirt with an arrow that says like, I'm with stupid because he's my brother and my lover. But here's, Stuart, these are people who have never done something you and I have done many times, which is pour a two-liter bottle of soda into a cup, then transfer that soda to our mouths. These people have only ever taken the soda directly from the bottle into the mouth without a cup

as a middleman in between. That's the people we're dealing with here. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I mean all their cups are probably sitting in an unattached dryer unit that's just sitting in the hallway over there. Texas chainsaw mask her home. Yeah, so this woman shows up and like Stuart says, there's just something so like she is the actress playing this character. She's playing like this pulpy like backwoods villain character and she does, she's so good because she's so, she seems so dead to the world. Like she has no whatever,

whatever vulnerable part of her die a long time ago and replaced by just like, you know, whatever it takes to survive in the swamp, you know, like she saw her daddy get eaten by a gator when she was two. And since then, she's been in trouble, you know, her soul's filled with like, crawdand parts. And again, it's just gumbo and remalade. That's all that's in there. But she is when she first shows up that and she like leans into the window of Halle Berry's

car. That was the like, or no, she knocks on the window. It's like, that was the scariest moment of the whole movie for me. But anyway, she says, look, do you have $10,000? Because we'll give this kid back to you for $10,000. My boyfriend's husband slash brother Jimbo up there is gonna drive your son.

I'm gonna get in your car. We're gonna drive to a bank. We're gonna get out $10,000 and then you can have your son back. And Halle Berry is like, oh, okay. And Halle Berry lets her into a car. And she almost immediately tries to beat Halle Berry up. She tries to strangle her in the car. Which is a mistake because Halle Berry's in her home fucking turf, dude.

When you're a town in country. When you're an owner of a 2011 Chrysler town in country. Well, like, welcome to my web said the spider to the country person. Yeah, because well, she saved by the, she's saved by the great reclining seats that that car has. Because she's trying to be strangled by the seat belt and how they bury reclines and that lets her neck out of the noose basically.

And let me just say one of the left in right side sliding back doors. Yeah. Yeah. Let me just say one thing about how they bury in this situation. How they bury has done something we should all do when we get a car, which is read the manual. She knows every feature of this car. She knows exactly what to do.

And also she probably knows Crov Maga. I'm just going to put that out there too. But it's town and country specific Krav Maga, where they're like, okay, I'm going to show you how to use every part of your town in country to defeat an assailant. You're gonna do it like this. Let's say you are in the driver's seat.

Of course you are to your car. Don't ever let anybody else drive your car. It's your car. It's like a samurai sword. It's his soul in a sheet. This is your soul in a minivan. So don't let anyone else drive it. You wouldn't let them drive your soul. Would you? I wouldn't let anyone drive my soul. And she's like, can we speed it

up? I have to pick up my kid. I don't have a lot of time for this session. But anyway, we always read the manual. I guess that whether it's a video game, a car, or surgical equipment, always read the manual. Absolutely. That's what I would say. And even if it's brought to you by a guy named Manuel, always read the man. Absolutely. That's what I would say. And even if it's brought to you by a guy named Manuel, like read his situation, say like, hey, what's going on with you, Manuel? Like, let me, like, emotionally, physically, financially, I want to help you out. This is what's best.

Just read all the manuals and man wells. If you're watching faulty towers, pay a close attention to Manuel the character because he's the funniest one in the whole show. Anyway, a bit of an ethnic character. Very much so. He's, it's the most famous caricature of the bumbling spaniards that were also familiar with. I like how Dan couched his critique there

and in case there was some big faulty towers defenders. I mean, well, you know, it's a great show. It's just, you know, certain parts of it haven't aged, particularly while over. I mean, that scene where he is rude to the Germans who lived through World War II, they would never play an out, because those people would be elderly at this point. That scene is really aged. Anyway, so moving on. So Halle Berry eventually, she hurls the woman out of her car, again, taking advantage

of the sliding rear doors and tries to trick the male kidnapper into thinking that the female kidnapper has the car now by putting on the woman's jean jacket and just kind of like waving her hand around through the windshield. And it is, at this point, I really give the movie credit for being color blind in its casting and in the characters because the male kidnapper never seems to be like, well, that seems to be a black arm wearing my girlfriend's sister's jacket. Maybe she, I don't know, maybe it's...

I mean, he's looking through a rearview mirror, dude. I guess that's true, it's difficult, very shadowy. She's following the bad guy, but she's running low on gas, chase time again, again, super tense chase. And I don't wanna, like, I feel like we have to, keep mentioning that, like, what, 75% of this movie is just car chase. And I don't wanna, I feel like we have to keep mentioning that what, 75% of this movie is just car chase.

Yeah. It's just her and her car chasing after this guy. She finds the bad car abandoned. It was in an accident. The bad guy took Frankie off on foot. She goes into the sheriff's office to repeat it. That's right, to repeat it, to report it. And the sheriff is like, well, I'm the only one here.

I'll send some cars out. They should be out in like 15 minutes. Just wait here and we'll get it set up. And Halle Berry sees this wall of posters of kids who've been missing for years. And she's like, these are the ones who waited. I can't wait. And she goes on the hunt again. And she's just driving around town, sees the kidnappers jacket in a trash can. Looks up. Another car starts pulling away. She follows that car. Yeah, this is the biggest contrivance in the movie that she just could just drive around after losing the guy and be like, oh, here he is again. Yeah, like that car is driving suspiciously. Oh, wait,

that's correct. That is the kidnapper. Yeah. And that it is so dead in the middle of the day that the one car on the road in this town is the kidnapper's car so that the kidnapper knows she's on to him and he runs over a lady in the street yeah after she smashes into his car a couple time yeah. um and so he runs over a woman in the street and hallowy berry of voids the person on the street and then slams on the brakes. person on the street and then slams on the brakes so that the person who's already been run over doesn't get hit by another car. Her Chrysler town in country gets teaboned and does not move an inch. Oh no, so stable. So and the airbag, instant opening.

Like, you can't say enough about this car. At this point, she's been in like four car accidents. Yeah. And the handling, she swirves right around that person in the street. She doesn't offer any help, not at all. I mean, she just gave that person their life back, Elliot. Yeah. But the message that you send to the world by buying a Chrysler town in

country, Minivan, is I'm taking care of myself. You take care of you. Oh, I mean like every man's out of tank. Yeah, exactly. I can withstand anything. What are you doing to help you out? Because when the bomb falls and I'm protected because I'm in my Chrysler town and country, I don't have room for you. I got to watch my own family. So see, except she doesn't say see a she stops and gets t-bone like you're saying by that of the car. And then she's back on the hunt like a meaty. And then she goes back at it, but she, she slams into the bad guy's car, but she runs at a gas. No, why does she not have a solar-powered car? Why don't all of us have solar-powered cars? What happened, Dan? Why don't we have solar-powered cars?

I assume it's some sort of vast conspiracy on the part of the car companies and the oil companies. That's part of it. Also, it's a battery issue. Oh, okay. So she leaves her, she leaves her gas list, uh, Chrysler town and country sitting in the road. She flags down another vehicle. This is that aforementioned older fellow without a cell phone, but he does have a radio. They talk about it for a little while. And then all of a sudden, the kidnapper is back, and he's on the attack. And we've learned that the kidnapper went down a dead end, so he has to come back that way anyway.

So he smashes into their car, Halle Berry blacks out, wakes up to find that the van driver is dead, and the male kidnappers getting out of his car. Just another name to be added to the cenotaph of this movie. See, is he the first, he's the first death of the movie, right? I'm sure that that that motorcycle cop. Oh, no, the motorcycle died.

You're right. The motorcycle cop. If he probably died, he's living a life worse than death since everything below his shoulders has been crushed. Yeah. And at the point of the kidnappers, after killing a police officer, we're like, okay, if you give us $10,000, we'll give you your kid back. Like, that's crazy. Like, you're way too far gone at that point.

$10,000, what? They just need enough to get them down to Mexico. Sure. And then I guess getting trouble there. So they, she wakes up the man kidnapper. Let's just call him s'cragly Joe. He's like, because he looks, or you know what, he looks kind of like spike Snoopy's brother who lives in the desert. Sure. You know, with the long, strangling mustache. Yeah, certainly. The non-beagle version of the fight.

No, yeah, you're right. Yeah, Dan's right. We wouldn't want the listeners to think that he's some kind of dogman. He's not, he's no desktop tech-tip. No, no, he's a human man. He just has that kind of air of like droopingness about him. And he comes out of with a shotgun. And she's not in her town and country anymore. So she can't, she's in trouble, although she then goes back into her town and country,

right? Yeah, of course. She leads him back into her safe space. And then then she uses the town and country's parking brake to drag that man through the woods, totally killing him. And finally, the town and country smashes into a tree and is no more. Or is it? Yeah. She traps him in the door and drags him through. And it's like she says that she says a thank you not to God, but to Chrysler, for giving her, it's like, you have to imagine there

is at some point when a he-man's steed battle cat died in battle and he-man probably laid battle cat, aka, cringer, to rest to rest and oh you know what probably happened is he cringer didn't turn into battle cat in time and there was a battle and he man was in danger and cringer finding the battle cat inside of him that was always there he leaped into the fray and saved he man so it turned out cringer was the real hero and when he man was was I guess giving him a Viking funeral and lighting him on fire on the pyre, he's shed a tear and he said,

Kringer, you were the real battle cat. Yeah, so it was you all along. So I guess right up that fanfic and posted the internet. And then Tila says, you should have told him that when he was alive, damn it. Wow. And then she storms off to become even teelo. And, and he man looks over to work going,

or it goes like, I don't know, man, I don't even know if I have a face. I got my own, what am I? I got my own issues here. So yeah, the, so she, she off the body of the dead kidnapper, she finds out the address of the dead kidnapper, she finds out the address of where her son most likely is being kept. And then she uses, she's still working,

the still working, what is that? GPS unit in the Chrysler town. It's like the Navigation screen. So even in death, the Chrysler town and country provides one last bit of help. She lays. Oh, truly the hero of the film. She lays her hand on the hood of this damaged steed. And then heads off to find her.

She says says, silently, I will avenge you. Mm hmm. It goes off. I mean, I mean, feels like the passing of a hero. It's so beautiful. I mean, it takes the passing of a hero. It's so beautiful. It's, you know, I mean, I saw some notes,

some like references to the death of Boramir in this moment. No. Yeah. Maybe deep down, the Chrysler town in country was chasing after the kid for its own ends. Maybe it wanted to catch the kid. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? Yeah. There was a real, anyway, there's, it was, it was a truly heroic death worthy of this heroic character. Yeah. And we should all take a moment to remember it, but not too much of a moment

because she night falls while she's walking to this house. She enters the house and the lady kidnappers in their answer in a phone call turns out they kidnap kids and sell them for money. And the lady is like, I want $100,000. Now you better pay up blah, blah, blah. Hallibary calls 911 after seeing the lady kidnapper leave and go into like a creepy old barn. And she grabs a knife. The shotgun she took with her, I guess she couldn't find the bullets. So she doesn't, she couldn't find the shells.

It's a primitive weapon used only by bio folk. Yeah, I guess it was not elegant as a butcher knife. Yeah, it was, it had that probably a fingerprint lock. So she couldn't, she couldn't shoot it anyway. Yeah. It's coded to bio DNA, but like Robocop's gun, she calls 911, they say, the police are coming, we have your location. And then she hears someone pick up the phone and start dialing and she hangs up. The kidnapping woman walks back in, finds the shotgun, sees the phone is off the hook,

gets in her pickup truck, drives away. I guess I assume to go see, hey, where's my boyfriend, brother? Hallibary sees that the woman just brought back from the barn a half-empty pizza box and some juice boxes. But either, either, this woman is ashamed for childish eating habits, or perhaps, you know what it is probably, like I was saying, they don't have cups, they're not used to drinking out of cups, so she's looking for some kind of drink that you can just drink it out of the thing you buy it in, they don't have cups. They're not used to drinking out of cups. So she's looking for some kind of drink that you can just drink it out of the thing you buy it in.

And that's juice boxes. Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's the moment. That's the closest moment you're gonna get to like a hunter kneeling down to like feel the warmth of like the shit of an animal. Like that's the natural food. That's a natural prey of a kid. There's a juice box carcass here. Still warm.

They've been through this area. She goes to the barn and calls for Frankie who's in like a locked loft area and there's two other kids there. She takes a jagged shovel and she's going to break a hole. I thought she was going to break a hole in the ceiling, but she's just going to knock a big pipe out of the way to make the whole bigger thing to go through. But then the kidnapper comes back, oh no. She knocks out that pipe.

The kidnapper comes is loading the gun. Halle Berry says, other girls, I'll be back. Frankie, you, uh, you come down. We got to get out of here. And she runs with Frankie. The kidnapper, six of mean dog on them. No. No.

Terrible. They run down. They run down to a pier or a dock or whatever. And they sent out a dummy boat to trick the kidnapper when they're actually hiding under like their Rambo. Yeah, they're hiding under the dock in the water like Rambo. The kidnapper shoots are gun into the boat, but the dog smells them under the dock. And the kidnappers like, huh, and she's about to shoot under there when just like in Rambo, Halle Berry jumps up from under the dock and pulls the kidnapper down. And the gun goes off and shoots the dog. That's how good Halle Berry is at this point. As a town and country commando.

Well, the thing is, she has played so many games of Marco Polo. Oh, of course, she's gonna murder this lady in a game of Marco Polo, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, right. I didn't even see that brilliant piece of seating and paying off. It's like now it's she goes, it appears the polo has become the Marco. Or she's like, that was in the first draft of the screenplay. They're like, it's a line out. Howie Berry was like, I can't figure out a way to deliver that line realistically. And I'm already in like three feet, four feet of water. So can we not do that?

Yeah. Okay, you're the producer. You can just ask me to take the line out. Do you think that the, it's that she was like, in order to defeat a bio swamp person, I must become a bio swamp person? Yeah. And that's when she decided she's gonna hide in the water under the dock.

She and the kidnapping lady, they fight a bunch in the water, and the kidnapping lady is what dragged under by her heavy flashlight or something. That's that she's got on her. I mean, she likes jokes and all that stuff. And so Halle Berry drowns this woman right in front of her son. And it's one of those things where if you're a kid and you fantasize seeing your parents

killing a kid, and after you'd brought, you think you'd be like, that's awesome. But in real life, it would be the scariest thing you've ever seen in your life. But that kid, he does his homework on time from now on. Oh, yeah You better believe he's not leaving his mom's site and he's never drinking a juice box reading pizza again Because he has he because he now associates those with being kidnapped so She goes back for the girls and demand walks him with a shotgun. He's like I'm the neighbors. What are you? I'm the neighbor. What are you doing? She says they were kidnapping people. I've been their neighbor for 14 years. That's crazy.

Which guys, guys, this guy's wearing like an LL Bean sweater. There is no way he is the neighbor of these people. He's like, that is very true. Of course they're not. I just assume they're weird cannibals, not kidnappers. I just assumed that they were siblings who have sex with each other. I wasn't going to judge them and they weren't going to judge me for running a hedge fund that slowly, just slowly destroying the world economy.

So you know what? Let's live and let live. But, and I thought for a moment, is this going to be the message part of the movie where Halle Berry is shot for being black in a place where people are suspicious of that? Like we're at the end of a night of living dead Yeah, we're that we're the black hero is killed tragically, but no, that's not what it is He says oh, let me help you get those kids out of there and she goes let me help you get those girls out of there She goes I didn't tell you there was more than one kid up there or that they were girls this guy was in on it Yeah, of course, and so while he reaches for the gun behind his back

Hallibary slashes him across the body with her jagged shovel. She blasts him in the head with it, and then later on when she's being led out by the cops, they're like, you killed all those guys. She killed that dude with one hit. They're like, do you want an application to the police? She says, and she says, you took the wrong kid, which should be the slogan of the movie, you took the wrong kid,

which should be the slogan of the movie. They took the wrong kid, just her angry face. And that was, and it was like, I have to admit, as a parent at that moment, I was like, yeah, that's damn right. You did take the wrong kid. But the implication is also, if you had taken another kid that wasn't mine, please be with you.

God bless, do what you want to do. I'm in my town and country. I can take care of myself. You took my kids. That needs trouble. But you should have taken another kid. Yeah. If she had just, you know, guys, if she had just worked the double like her boss had said, none of this would happen. If she had just accepted her place as a cog in this grist mill of capitalism. Yeah, in the food industrial complex that she's just a tiny piece of. Yeah, that's,

this never would have been a happen. Yeah. Yeah, the moral of the story is. I just said this never would have been a happen. This never would have been a happen, right? No, yeah, the moral of the story is, don't go to the fair, basically. Or always work a double shift.

Just, you'll get overtime pay for it probably, but a helicopter appears overhead. The police have arrived and we just hear these news reports that are talking about how this was a multiple-state child abduction ring that's now been broken up now that Halle Berries revealed it and it ends on the line of a newscast. This is just audio. We ends on newscast. We're saying this mother is one incredible hero. As if the audience didn't get it up till that. Like it's one of those it's like, it's like, it is to this movie, what the moment is in the imitation game where it's like, we call them computers. Oh, that, that thinking machine he was building was

a computer. I get it. Now, did you guys stick around for the after credit scene where Nick Fury shows up and invites her to become part of the Fantastic Four? Have you heard of the Angry Parents Initiative? Now, guys, let me, let me be straight about this movie. Let me just be clear about it. This movie operated for me on exactly the level and it exactly the way it was intended to operate for me. Like, this is, I don't know, I don't remember the last time I've seen a movie where I was as on edge while watching it as this one. Yeah. And like, as like, it had me in its grip until like the first, I guess in the first 10, 15 minutes, I was like, this is dumb. But then as soon as she gets in her car, from then until the end of the movie,

I was like, what's gonna happen? You gotta catch that kid, what's going on? Yeah, I mean, well, that sounded like a final judgment. So let's make it official. Is this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, or a movie kind of like, Elliot? I would say, I'd go even farther than a movie I kind of liked. This was a movie I would recommend

to people who want to watch, to people who want to watch like a trash chase thriller. Like it's not, if you want to watch a movie that's just like, it's just nonstop like, white knuckle, a kid is in danger and you're end of woman, and the angry mother is chasing swamp people in her, in her town and country, minivan, like, then this is a good version of that.

Like this is a good, like exploitation dumb thriller. Yeah, I would say this is a movie I kind of liked. I don't think I think I probably will like slightly less high on it. But because for me, as soon as she got out of the car, like thanks sort of slowed down a little bit, all the stuff at the end was not as thrilling to me as like the car chase stuff. That's true. The car chase stuff is the good stuff. But yeah, I had fun watching this movie. I was kind of surprised. And it's like, I think it's less than 90 minutes. I'm not sure about that, but it's very short.

I think it's like, yeah, I think it's like 85 minutes long or 81 minutes. Like this is, they did not stretch out this movie. And also all the stuff I thought was gonna come into, like I was like, oh, maybe her husband's kid and that the kid because he wants custody. He's trying to make it look like she's insane. Like, I was like, what dumb twist are you gonna put on this movie?

No, no dumb twist. It is so straightforward. She's at the fair, her kid gets taken, she chases after it, and that's it. Yeah, I mean, it's a movie that begins at a fair, has a long car chase, and then basically ends at the Baker House from Resident Evil 7. So yeah, I'm into it. No, it was great. And it was short, you know, like 85 minutes. Heck yeah, give me that. And I feel like this was, it was a telling sign that usually when we're watching a, when I'm watching a movie for the show and I get up to go to the bathroom and my wife goes,

do you want me to pause it? And I'm like, no. This time, I'm not doing a break. But no, this time I smashed the pause button because I didn't want to miss a moment. I didn't want to miss a moment. Yeah, so this is, so yeah, if you like watching like trash thrillers, then this is a good one to go to. You know, I was, they was part of me. I was having, I was worried, because like 30 minutes into the movie,

I was like, we are gonna have trouble. What are we gonna talk about on the podcast? Unless this movie goes way off the rails, like I'm enjoying it way too much. Right. I mean, like, is a movie that did not, it didn't try to be smarter than it is, which I really appreciate.

Yeah. Um, hey guys, we should talk a little bit more about the Max Fund Drive. Hey, Max Fund Drive. Um, look, do we have to say it like that? Hey. Um, so Dan, what is the Max Fund Drive for anyone who is a new listener to this episode? Never heard this show before, not familiar with max fun. What keeps the light on and what keeps us afloat, explain the max fun drive.

Max fun drive. Oh, wow. Explain the max pain drive. Now, this is how we keep ourselves funded. I mean, basically, we do a few ads, but those will be honest are a small fraction of the money we get for doing the podcast. It most of it comes from listeners like you

who have memberships to maximum fun. And it helps us be able to keep doing what we're doing. I don't want to panic anyone. I don't want to make them a little extra anxious. But I think that's fair to say that this year, it was a little harder to keep the show going than in previous years, just because Elliott moved. We've, there's more.

That's a main reason. Our lives have changed a little bit, you know, like and and and what do you what do you try to tell me Dan? What's going on? No, I'm just saying like I'm well, I guess I'm I guess I'm saying it's the last episode. Good night everybody. Yeah, so donate. Oh, no, no, it's no, I said it's it helped to there's certain like as someone speaking for myself as someone with a family Yeah, it is I love doing this show I love it doing it with you guys especially because you're my good buddies And I like entertaining people, but like it makes it much more doable in a world where I have a family to take care of and spend time with that We're paid for this. Yeah, we're and And it means, and especially not to pull the curtain back

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We all have responsibilities, Elliot, as a family, Stuart runs a business. I have crippling depression that I need to feed. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, my new things. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can't just survive on writing ThunderCats fan fiction, Dan. No, I can't. Believe me, I have tried.

But listen, if you become a member, it's good for you too, because you'll feel good every time you listen to this show. You'll be like, I'm your boss. I only use people. I paid your salaries. Oh, that's fun. The same way every time I get pulled over by a cop,

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want it to or that's a pretty good question. I don't want to get in your shoes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, most of our listeners don't like other Max Fun shows. No, I'm just kidding.

They like a lot of them. They're a lot of good shows. Yeah. I have a member I donate to a lot of shows. Um, but that's true. Let's go. And I want to say this. Yeah, I would love it. If you stopped the podcast right now, pause it. Go to maximumfund.org slash donate right now and do it now while you're thinking about it. Yeah. Because you're probably going to forget to do it. Don't put it on your to-do list. It's got to be during the pledge drive. Go, go do it. And then, uh, and then come back or listen to this while you're doing it. I don't put it on your to-do list. It's gotta be during the pledge drive, go do it. And then come back. Or listen to this while you're doing it.

I don't know, you don't have to stop. Or if you're at the gym right now, then stop exercising and go home and do this. Yeah, while you're at the gym anyway, you know, that's a tiring thing to do. Well, it'd go into the gym, yeah. Yeah, it's no fun. Put down the weights.

Yeah, stop it. OK. Also, you're making me look bad. So stop making Dan look bad. You know, it would help make Dan feel a little bit better about you looking better than him. Give him some money. Go to maximumfund.org slash donate.

Also, and I hate to say it, the house cat owes a lot of money to some very bad people. And we say you're going to bring that up, dude. I to say it. The house cat owes a lot of money to some very bad people and we said we're going to bring that up. I just made it. Now's the time. So now we should. So what do we do next on the podcast Dan? Do we talk more about the blood drive? Now in the podcast, we move on to letters. Oh, letter bag. Yeah, our movie mail bag. We haven't called it that in a while. Why not bring that back? So these are listeners like you they've written in you can write in If you go to the show page at Bloppas podcast

Are you just fanping while you find the letters? Hey, Dan, it seems like you're fanping till a song kicks in. Well guess what? Good news for you. I've got a song and it's coming through to our pledge donors all over the world. Pledge donors top to bottom. Pledge donors, they're gonna hurl. When they find out all the great stuff, they're gonna get when they pledge.

Hey Dan, sometimes you're waiting for a letter's song to kick in, but the guy who's waiting for the moment to sing this song is curious just how long you'll go before the song kicks in. And so I let you hang a little longer, so I let you dangle over the pit of what kind of pit would it be? I was gonna say pit of damacly's, but that's a sort of damacly's that hangs over somebody else. So forget that part. Let's get to the heart of the song for the show for letters, because hey guys reading letters, that ain't cheap. We pay 100 people to read all the letters. Then they get extra money when they find a good letter and they pass it along to us. That's a lot of overhead. Finitially, it would leave us dead

without the pledges that you bring in for the letter readers from letter writers that give it to us and then they read it to Dan because Dan can't read. That's his secret. He's ashamed of it. He asked me not to tell. But I figured what the hell

for the pledge donors they can learn the truth. Dan's a literate both when it comes to reading and also somewhat emotionally. And so hey, we want to get Dan these classes. So he can finally use those glasses and read a letter to himself for once. So why don't you help us make Dan's dream a reality with letters? All right, that's what I like. The definition is insulting. When Elliot realizes he knows the rhyme, like he starts to pick up an intensity.

So like I just said, tell, now I'm going to say what the hell? So this first letter is from Jake Last night will held and the fat man. That's right both of them He writes hey floppers. I recently finished reading George Saunders novel Lincoln in the bar though the acclaimed strange affecting novel about President Lincoln coping with the death of his young son and the escalating civil war Naturally because I spend way too much time listening to you three, I wondered immediately if noted Lincoln head, Elliot Kaelin had read the book. This also made me wonder what the flappers like to read.

I know there have been some comics recommendations in the past, but since you used to be three, I've steered me well with movies over the years. I wanted to ask, are there any books you three always find yourself recommending? Anything recent. Thanks for the rex. Keep on plopping. I have red Lincoln in the bar. Oh, and I really liked a lot. Okay. Well, that's that question. There was I think the format he decided to read it right in is a little

difficult in a way that it's written as if it's all quotes taken from different sources. So you don't always know who's talking until you get to the bottom of the quote and you read their name. But I thought of all the things I've read that have tried to get inside of Lincoln's head and his way of thinking, I thought George Saunders did it best. The times when your inside Lincoln's thought process, I was like, this is probably how it's thinking worked. So I like did a really fantastic job with it. Yeah, I think to answer the larger question, I believe I've mentioned some of my favorite books before, so I won't belabor that.

I mean, I talked about Robertson Davies, the Depford Trilogy. I think I've talked about how much I like Harpo Marx's autobiography, Harpo Speaks. I love The Alice Books by Lewis Carroll. Those are some of my personal favorites. But in terms of stuff I've been reading lately, I read Miranda July's novel, The First Bad Man,

which I thought was pretty terrific. She's known as an artist and a filmmaker. She made me and everyone we know in the future. I may have fucked up the first title. I can't remember whether it's everyone or everybody, but Well, we'll let you the fans will let you know it will be skate. Oh, by the way, speaking of which, I fucked up on so in the snowman, Oleg's father is actually some sort of Russian mobster. He's not Harryhold. So I just wanted to put that out there. But anyway, Miranda's a lot smaller. We figured it out. It was not clear from the movie. We were just like a couple of Harryholds there,

figuring that one out. Yeah. Too late for me to win at Pub trivia. Too late for me to win at pub trivia, but okay fine. It's a very interesting book. It's a character's study of a very odd sort of character who's very levelable. The second half of the book didn't resonate with me as much as the first, just because of who I am. I'm a childless man, and the second half of the book is very much about motherhood. So it wasn't like- You're shooting out a brand new live book.

Maran is the live book. I thought you were talking about Harry Hole. Yeah. The second part of the book was how Harry Hole became a mother. It was just like junior with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. But I would recommend that book to other readers. Are there books that the rest of you are the rest of you being the two others. I mean, I don't know. I I have a I like a lot of like weird fiction. Your Jeff Fandermier's your China me A. Vils.

And lately, and I also have a tendency to like read a lot of like comfort stuff for me. So like my comfort zone is usually Bernard Cornwell, historical war novels and historical fiction or you know, the Sharps rifles. Yeah, the Sharps rifles and his Arthurian trilogy, his Warlord Chronicles, it's awesome. I think they made that TV show Last Kingdom

based on a series. It's really great and And like Dan Adnan's sci-fi stuff. I don't know you know nerdy crap I think I've mentioned my favorite books before on the podcast of the power broker by Robert Carro is my favorite non-fiction book runner up the journalist and the murderer by Malcolm. And my favorite fiction books are Alice Wonderland, as Dan mentioned, and also the man who was Thursday by G.K. Kesterton. But some books I just read recently that I liked a lot. I really liked the book Kindred by Octavia Butler, which is kind of a time travel novel about

someone from modern days going back to slave times whenever her ancestor is in trouble and it went in directions I didn't expect it to go and I thought it was really good and if you like George Saunders there's a short story book that came out a couple years ago called The Hall of Small Mammals that is very George Saunders like but I actually liked it a little bit more than then I usually like his work I can't remember the name of the author, which I feel bad about, but it's called the Hall of Small Nameless. Okay.

I hope that gives some listeners a little direction that they might want to follow up on. But the next letter. And right now, I'm also reading an academic text called the Comic Hero about the idea of that there is a hero of comedy about the idea of that there is a Hero of comedy in the same way that there's a hero of tragedy and looking at different stuff and I'm enjoying that a lot, but it's But it's like a little bit it's a little bit more into into

Text analysis that I'm used to so I don't know if I'd I'd recommend it to someone who wants to read an academic book But I don't know if you do yeah the only academic stuff I read is old issues of Nintendo Power magazine. You're like, what's Nestor up to this time? Now, here's my problem with it. So when I was a kid, I like, I never had a subscription to Nintendo power. And I always want to phone down. So I would just borrow, I would just borrow other kids' issues. And there was that ongoing link comic strip from Zelda

that I never saw the beginning and I never saw the end and the chapters didn't always match up because I wasn't reading like every issue, every issue went after another. So did that story ever, was that a coherent story? Do you guys know that legend of Zelda comic strip? Is that like the Milla Monara comics that would run in Penn House where you're like, I don't

follow this closely enough to know where this begins or ends. I mean, kind of in a way, I guess I'm not familiar with those ones, but it was like I would pick up an issue of Nintendo power from a friend, so I'd be like, I just want some cheat hints. Like just show me where the bad guys are waiting for me on this

level. And then here's four pages of comic strip where Link is dealing with something that I don't know what it is. And I just wondered if that was always confusing or if people who were following the story were like, ah, yes, I know. Uh-oh, this happened. So I guess right in if you remember those comic strips. Okay.

I guess so. I told my action. This next letter is from Sebastian Lasting withheld who run. Oh, I'm surprised he can type. This says, it seems like anyone who's anyone these days has an enemy. Democrats have Republicans, cats have dogs,

and even our own Stuart Wellington counts the deadly and mysterious Al Madrigal aka Al Magical amongst his gallery of rogues. Elliot meanwhile has both John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John,

John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John,-hero knuckles of the, oh fuck, I don't know how to say that word, to his Sonic the Hedgehog. Uh, but what about Dan? Although he is bedeviled and antagonized by his friends, he seems to lack any true villain

to call his own. Floppers doesn't Dan need an enemy to, someone to stand against with the word and triumph over. How else is he going to get the babes if he can't throw off his Clark Kent glasses and become the Superman that exists in his heart? Keep on flopping in the free world Sebastian. This raises a good point. What's that? Uh, who's your villain?

Yeah, who's like, it's like a, like a happy version of you who's like laid back and shit. I think you're the villain, Dan. I like, I think you're the bad guy version of some, some Dan who's got it all together and hasn't figured out. You're the, the the goofest to his galaxy in a way. So you're saying this is this is like the twist and of some like Twilight Zone episode where I realized that I I was the bad one. Yes exactly. You really you think there's a guy who's trying to destroy your life and you start to worry that your nightmares have come to life. But then it turns out you were the nightmare who came to life from

this guy's life. And he's just trying to get rid of you because you've been hurting him. It's like you're the bad guy from the dark half. But you killed the other guy. Now you're so nice. I don't know if I'm not right now. Yeah, well, because everyone's the hero

of their own story. The bad guy from the dark half is the hero when he tells the tale. Now Dan, this is going to sound insulting, but I'm just going to say this. So I think Stuart and I both have very well-defined dynamic personality. You're right. It does sound insulting.

And that makes it easier to define what our opposite numbers would be. Yeah, wait for it. And he's going to compliment you. It's a little bit like saying, what's the enemy of oatmeal? Well, I don't know. Oatmeal's distought me I like to say to myself is having a sort of a happy medium in my life where I sort of walk the middle path As it were I see interesting. Okay, but we you're not it's not you it's neither you're neither a samurai

Walking the path of redemption nor are you the gesture walking the path of redemption. Nor are you the gesture, walking the path of, I assume pointing out the truth of humanity's hypocrisy by enacting his foolishness. Instead, you're just like a farmer, just doing whatever. Okay, I mean, again, I mean, he just purified that way, but he just purified 100% accurately, right? All right, yeah, that was what I was saying.

No, but Dan, tell me more about this middle path. No, no, no, let's move on to the next letter. So, okay, listeners, that's, that was what I was saying. No, but Dan, tell me more about this middle back. No, no, no, let's move on to the next letter. So, okay, listeners, write in. If you've got an enemy for Dan, write in and, and make it happen. I want, I kind of want to have been a fly in the wall for Dan's thought process for what he's like. I'm going to read this letter. Do you think the guys who're just going to compliment me the whole time?

Well, Dan, everyone loves him. That's why he doesn't have an enemy. I didn't really get much past. This is an amusing conceit when I chose the letter. I didn't really go to that next step where I realized what was going to occur. Dan, have you ever heard the theory that Sherlock Holmes kind of invented Moriarty to have somebody

who could finally match Witts with? Uh-huh. Well, I mean, there's... Because I think... I mean, like that's kind of the Batman and Joker too, right? The idea that, like, the Joker wouldn't exist if Batman didn't... Wasn't there to oppose it? Yeah. So maybe it's time for you to bring your own enemy into creation.

Okay. Make it happen. Alright. Yeah, because I need another thing in my life Well, maybe like now I read that some fan is gonna be like oh, sorry We just did I was gonna say like maybe having maybe having opposition would like push you to new heights of Danness okay Well now worried that a listener is gonna be like oh, that's what that's what's missing from Dan's life is a villain And so a villain I shall be and he'll just start be deviling you. Yeah, that all of our energy directed toward getting people to join the Max Von drive will instead. Hey, you know what,

you know what Dan, you know, it really be great for Dan's villain to do exactly go to maximum fun dot org slash donate and make a pledge. It could be $10, $20, $35 a month. You get great gifts and you support Dan, which will make you have more to villainize later on. All right. Well, we're going to get back into that in a second, but let's finish off this letter segment with someone who... With a bullet to the back of the head. With someone who... Withheld his name entirely or her name, I shouldn't assume, or its name or their name. Yeah, well, yeah, definitely their name.

Yeah. So they write, when Wonder Woman was released, I took my mother to see it as a late Mother's Day present, saying someone who had been reading comics since the 50s, finally seeing their favorite character brought to life on the big screen made the experience especially special. Have you ever had a particularly touching experience in sharing a movie with someone? A bonus question for Stewart, which series is better Halloween or Friday the 13th and which series has the best single movie?

Thanks for everything. I think this is going to sound, I may have talked about this before, this is going to sound lame because it's dad stuff, but I'm having that experience right now with, I've started watching the Marks Brothers movies with my son in order. So we haven't gotten super far. We're in a monkey business right now, which I think is just their third movie. But seeing the way he reacts to it without me, I don't, without me saying like, here's the funny part just how naturally he finds the Chico and Harpo stuff, especially funny is very meaningful to me and very moving. And like now the game he wants to play all the time is, okay, I'm Harpo, you're Chico, or I'm Harpo, you're Lucy, and we're doing the mirror

bit because I showed him the Harpo Lucy mirror routine from it was until the Lucy show or where I love Lucy, I forget which. And he is and like just seeing just being able to share that with him and seeing like, okay, this is something that's going to be special for him in the future. The way it was special to me is that's that's one of that's that kind of meaningful experience. Yeah. I like it a lot. Um, I'm sort of racking my brain. I don't know that I've shared a movie in the way of like being like, you got to see this movie that I love and then had a meaningful experience about it. I will say that, um, I mean, this is obviously a little bittersweet seeing as my wife and I are not together anymore, but I still treasure it.

And I treasure the relationship we had. We early on watched Rushmore together, and that was sort of our movie in the way that people have songs like it was a very Like it was a it was an early kind of Cool and quote date. I mean we met in college so you don't really date in college, but it was It was kind of when we it was kind of when we first got together and so Rushmore Pulled a special place in my heart. Although again. It's kind of a bittersweet place now I have a hard to I have a harder time watching it than I did before, but it's still meaningful to me.

It's not that hard just to put in your DVD player. Oh yeah, buddy. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It works. Maybe you need a new DVD player. I mean, yeah, I'll look into that. Something I didn't even think about till you started talking about your day and is that

my experience with my son is that it reminds me of the first time I ever saw any Preston Sturgis movies, which is when my grandmother took me to film forum for the first time. When I was probably 12 or 13 and I had never been there and that eventually became where I spent

like most of my time when I was in college. But I had never seen press and surges movies before and we saw unfaithfully yours in Miracle and Morgan's Creek and it really blew me away, especially Miracle and Morgan's Creek. And it's like I'm doing with my son, with my grandma, I did it with me. Yeah, that's it.

So it's like, you know what, family thing. That didn't occur to me. It doesn't have to be me sharing something, it can be something shared to me. And I think that I also had that experience weirdly enough with the Marx brothers where my parents showed me amul crackers early on in my life and I was that I also had that experience weirdly enough with the Marx brothers, where my parents showed me amulcrackers early on in my life

and I was just blown away and I'm like, this is the greatest and it was something that they had already experienced. I mean, like they would have been extremely young. I mean, like they weren't there for the first time around. I remember my mother told me that her father took her to see Love Happy, which was the last Mark's Mother's movie and not a good one at all. So they weren't there for the good ones, but you know it would have been something that they knew from growing up.

Yeah, I mean, I can't think of a single time when I shared something with someone and they particularly enjoyed it. I'm like, wow, what does that say about my taste? But he's like, hey, wife, you want to watch Anthropog? And she's like, no, I don't want to watch that. And so, but there was a time, I mean a few years ago, my wife, my wife got me to watch dirty dancing. I'm a movie I'd never seen, and I fucking loved it.

And it's, and then I, I ended up buying tickets for us to go to the, there's like a special screening at the draft house, like I love that movie. It's great. So that was really cool because that was a movie she grew up with and had a connection to and I get it. It's great. So that was really cool because that was a movie she grew up with and had a connection to and I get it. It's awesome. And as for your other question, Friday 13th beats Halloween. Friday 13th has the best movies in a day. Friday 13th part six and seven or great. Part four is amazing. Halloween has one good one called Halloween, part three, season of the witch, dude. All the other ones are fucking trash. So crazy. But that's crazy for Jason, baby.

There was a time when I think Halloween three was seen as the like outsider, like that was the one that people set aside and were like, that's not really a Halloween movie. And I feel like like a pinion of it has turned around so much. Yeah, like that was the one that people sat aside and were like, that's not really a Halloween movie And I feel like like a pinion of it has turned around so much Yeah, cuz it's like that super dope Yeah, and it's got one of these single most horrifying scenes I've ever seen in a movie Okay, which one is that when the little kid with the mask on his head is head like rots and maggots and shit poor out It's so gross like a little kid little kid. That's pretty gross. That's pretty gross. Like it's a movie that kills a little kid. That's insane. Yeah. You didn't ask me, but I'm a Halloween partisan. Anyway, okay. Well, dance wrong. So what's next?

What's next is we should talk a little bit more about the Max Fun Drive. Please don't fast forward because this is important. They're, they're thumb is now hovering over the 15 second skip button. Yeah, just like make it worth my while, prove it to me. So let's say right off the bat again, don't forget that URL maximumfund.org slash donate. You should be going there now if you didn't already go there. And that's how important it is to us that you show your support because it means a lot to us both in terms of money, which we need to live because we live in a capitalist society that's based around artificial scarcity,

which is let's set aside for the moment. Also because there's something that, there is something that feels really good about getting our pledge amounts in and it's like, oh, people really care enough about what we're doing. It's literally put their money where their bond is, where their ears are. But like it's a reminder not just like, oh, this is great, we can feed ourselves. But also, oh, people really like what we're doing enough to support

it for real. And it gives us that much more kind of strength and enthusiasm and energy to do it because we know we're not hurling our words out into the void, you know, so it means a lot to some emotional level too. And you'll feel good because you'll know that you're supporting something that you enjoy rather than I don't know, just freeload enough of it. And it also, I mean one of the things that I like is that a little bit of the donation money goes to the Max Fun Network. And Max Fun has been making a lot of effort to bring new content and bring new shows. And especially-

A wide variety of shows. Yeah, and especially put effort into bringing shows that aren't just a couple of three lung kids like us talking about movies. Sometimes it's two lung kids talking about something else. Yeah, yeah. We should talk. And look, look, look, if you're new, if you've never pledged before, now's a good time.

If you're already pledged, why not upgrade? There's a goal network wide of 25,000 new or upgrading members. That's a huge amount, that sounds crazy, but you know what, they had a crazy goal last time and they exceeded it. And as a result, Stewart, aren't you going to the Grand Canyon or something? Yeah, I mean, very, very possibly. This will be the last episode of the Flop House featuring Stewart because there's a chance I will fall into the Grand Canyon and I need to be torn apart by rabbit donkeys. Yeah, that's what lives there. That's the horror movie Stewart's pitching.

It's called Damned Canyon. Oh, cool. I'm gonna mention the bonus gifts one more time. I won't get into the great detail because we already said it, but for $5 per month, you get all that exclusive bonus content, extra episodes for $10 a month.

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That's not in the book. It's implied, I guess, that I basically that I'll just roast a whole pan of broccoli and that'll be my dinner and then I'll watch like an Eastern European movie. For $35 per month, you get that juice carafe that's engraved with the max fun logo and there's a bunch of other higher levels with with even more gifts but we know that a lot of you don't have your like rich tycoons so you're gonna look into those gifts at the donate page and see what you can get if you pay a little bit more if you're one of those rich tycoon listeners. Yeah. Those oil please. So what you're gonna do you, you're going to go to the maximum fund.org slash donate, you're going to see your membership levels grid and choose how much you want to contribute

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Or like switchblade sisters. Yeah. Something, something equally or maybe better good. I said better good. Yeah, better good. Oh, and the most redundant phrase in the English language, better good. It's so, and your membership contribution processes automatically, you don't have, you can do it one time, you don't have to worry about it ever again. And you won't even feel it. You won't even feel it. It's like, you'll have, except the only thing you'll feel is

you'll feel the joy of knowing every time you listen to the episode, you'll be like, I'm part of the people supporting it. it like I think I may have told the story on the podcast before when I found out that the Chinese movie Devils on the doorstep made $20,000 in its theatrical run in the United States which meant that probably less than 2,000 people went to see it probably and I was like I remember seeing that movie in the. I'm part of that like select group of Americans that went to see that movie in the theater. And it makes me feel like I'm special. So you'll be able to feel special every episode

by being like, I'm one of the people who's really making this possible. This is, I own a little piece of this. Now, you don't really own a piece of it legally. Like that's, don't sue us for that ownership stake. But you own a little piece of its heart, I guess. Don't sue us for the heart, either. Yeah.

No, no, we need that to keep beating our movie blood into our video veins, the new flesh. So why not go to maximumfund.org, slash donate right now while you're thinking about it and put in that monthly membership donation. So now, what do we do? Let's recommend a few movies. I mean, we like kidnap.

So we recommend books, we recommend a kidnap. Yeah, we recommend being a member of Max Fun. Yeah, but let's recommend just a little bit more. Movies that we saw maybe recently, maybe not so recently, I don't know. I don't know how you live your life, but you like, sure, I'll go first, it's no one else was talking. I watched.

Yeah, sorry for being polite, Dan, you're right. I'll just rush and interrupt you again, because I know you love that so much. I saw a movie I enjoyed very much recently called Thurobreds. And this is the- Oh, that's the one about Henry David the Rose Bakery. Yes. That sounds like a completely idea of the math works.

Yeah, that works, okay. Now, it's a movie about two young wealthy, Oh, now I know I'd like to, ladies, two prep school girls, one played by Anna Taylor Joy, from the witch, the witch, the other one played by, I can't remember now, I think it's Olivia Cook. Yes, it is Olivia cook yes it is Olivia cook Who is gonna be I don't know her from?

Other word she's gonna be in the upcoming ready player one What you don't know where for the matter yeah, I'm glad that we're getting all the interruptions and now but both Now, more. But both actors are fantastic in this movie. They're both terrific. The film, I'll just give a little bit of the setup. I don't want to spoil things. It is about these two girls, one of whom Olivia Cook's character recently slaughtered

her horse, put her own horse down, and so she's looked upon as kind of a crazy person, and she reveals that she does not feel emotions the way other people feel emotions. And Anatela Joy's character is sort of emotionally pent up, even though she does kind of have raging emotions beneath things, and they form this kind of unhealthy bond where they reinforce the negative aspects of each other's character which leads to violence eventually. And Anton Yeltsin is also in this movie. It might be his last film.

I'm not sure if there's something else that's going to be released after. Well, he's not making any more, Dan. Sadly to say. I know. I just don't know whether it's the last movie released. I think I read that. He's terrific in it. It has been compared to Heather's. It's not quite as like expansive or satirical as Heather's.

It started out as a stage play. That was originally how the guy thought he would write it and he realized he was making a movie instead, but it still has some of that flavor of a play. That's how Kidnapped originally was made, dude. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I think it was a stage play, and then he was like, how am I going to do this car chase on stage? I'm making a movie. It'll be a real coup d'etre, that's a tattra, that they can do that. But I just liked it a lot, and it's kind of an ice cold character study slash sort of a thriller but not really. It's very good. Thurobreds. In theaters now. Or at least when we record the episode. So guys, I just came back from a rather stressful trip to Florida to visit with my folks.

from a rather stressful trip to Florida to visit with my folks. And the conversations weren't super great and whatever, but after that, good of fucking fun. I got on the plane and ordered a double scotch and watched good time, which was a great choice if you're feeling stressed. Yeah, well, I'd already downloaded onto my iPads so I'm like, fuck it, let's just lean into it.

And Good Time is a crime thriller that came out last year, starring Twilight Hunk Robert Pattison. And it is a story about a ex-con. At least I think he's an ex-con out on parole, who drags his mentally challenged brother into a bank heist with him. And of course, everything almost immediately goes wrong.

And the whole movie takes place over one night and the camera is always tight on people. And it just, it's like a white knuckle, two-hour panic attack. And it's great. Robert Pattison has a great Queen's accent. It has a twist in it that I was totally blown away by. And there is a joke. I don't remember that.

There is a joke later in the movie where he's, where he's trying to convince this woman that he is, he is like dragged into this, into his, like conspiracy or whatever. One of his conspirators, he's like dragged her into this thing. And he's having this conversation with her. And there's a joke in it that is possibly the funniest thing I saw in a movie last year. It's, yeah, it's really great and very intense. So watch it. I wanna see that.

I'm gonna recommend a movie. So lately I've been trying to go back and watch the movies that came out when I was a kid, but I never actually saw because they were grown-up movies and, you know, I wasn't old enough at the time. And I recently watched, speaking of, Dan's got a movie about two women, and this was a movie about a woman in a car and there's police involved. The movie I watched recently that I'd never seen.

I ended up really liking a lot with Thelma and Louise with Gina Davis and Susan Sarandon and a ton of other big-name people. And it's like, I had never seen it and all I knew about it was basically how it ended for the most part. And it really worked for me on a lot, a lot of levels and they did such a good job of getting me

into the headspace of these two characters and like showing how they were already living lives that were where most of their options were cut off and then watching them have one option after another cut off from them and how both tragic and how liberating that was for them and I thought it was really really good and I can't like now I wish I could go back to 1991 and watch it then because it must have really like Messed with people's heads and blew their minds and well, I know I know when it came out There was a there was an attitude among a lot of folks that were like things are gonna change And that makes it a little more tragic because he didn't know things don't change

For a while, but you can see like a, but it's like that say, something that I've been thinking about a lot with in terms of fiction films is they make an impact and they don't really, the impact is narrow, but deep in a way that it's like that movie I'm sure planted a seed or like a land mine and a lot of people's heads that it took a long time to germinate and go off,

but it helped prepare the landscape in a way. But it came out of time. I get it. It's like when a death metal band releases a single album in the 90s, but now all the bands are totally copying their style and you know, 2017. Yeah, kind of. I mean, in a way that it's also in a way that like a band will be kind of a cult band

in the 80s. And then their listenership will grow over time as that album gets passed around. And then by the time, like I'm thinking of a band like Overkill in the 80s and 90s was like not not a band that would get its albums on the charts. But the last couple albums, they released, their listenership has been growing for 30 years. So like now when they release their album, it's not high on the charts, but it appears on the charts.

Yeah, yeah. And overkill as a band is kind of exactly the opposite of Thelma and Louise's in the movie in terms of what it stands for. But anyway, but I just thought it was one of these things. Are you saying that only kind of? Bellman Louise isn't about how awesome and tough New Jersey is. I'm saying exactly that, but it's a movie that like I knew it more from its

reputation and being a controversial movie than from the movie itself. And the movie is really good. And it makes me be like, oh, really Scott, you should be doing more movies like this nowadays and less movies like, I don't know, as much as I like Prometheus, like we've got a lot of Prometheus stuff out there. So like maybe make more movies about people unless about monsters.

I don't believe that. I don't believe that I like monster movies too. No, but I mean, like, I mean, obviously the best stuff he did, the best thing he did probably was alien and like that's a big science fiction monster thing. But in recent years and recent, I guess, it goes back to film and movies, which is not recent at all. But I don't know.

I have enjoyed it more when he does a little more small scale stuff. It's not a movie that has a lot of love behind it. But I enjoyed Matchstick Men, which was a small little Han movie. And it was more of a character study, fun little, just about people. That's the one with Nicholas Cage in it, right? Yeah. Yeah. And Sam Rockwell, right? I think so.

Yeah, that's why you like it, because it's got those guys. Yeah, they're great. Anyway, speaking of the movie, I was recommending. Yeah, that's why you like it because it's got those guys. Yeah, they're great. Anyway, speaking of the movie, I was recommending. Yeah, everyone's really great in it. And the Susan Saran and Gina Davis just do a fantastic job in it. And in a weird way that like, they might, their relationship reminded me so much of the relationship my mom has with these two specific friends. My mom has never gone on a robbery and like shooting spray. You know of that. I know of, but just like the way that the way that they interact as two women who are friends, but are different types of women, felt very real to me in the way they were performing and the way it was written. I can see like, oh, I can see my mom's relationship with her best friends in this.

And like, it made me think about that relationship in a way that I hadn't before. So it was really, it was just like a really good movie that affected me more than I expected it to, because I remember it being a movie that made a big splash in 1991, and then people haven't, I don't hear much about it since then.

And I wish people talked about it more. Yeah. Well Stuart, we should let Elliott change out of his robe and start his day. But thanks for pulling back the curve. We've record this out of, there's a three hour time difference. Three hours earlier where I am on a Sunday. So maybe I don't have time to like shower and get dressed and put a suit on. I've definitely, like it's much later here, and I've definitely greeted Stuart in my home wearing my pajama pants before.

So I took that as an invitation to put on my pajamas. You should just just my underpants. Yeah, we should, okay. We've seen that before. You've definitely my pants. Too many times. You're underwear. That's just a little.

And once in that tiny bathing suit. Yeah, just once in a tiny bathing suit. Oh, doing the podcast. Yeah, the one time that you left the table for a little bit and then came back or supporting a tiny bathing suit. Oh, man, I'm classic. Yeah. Yeah, classics too.

So guys, it's been great visiting with you. Me and my bathrobe, you guys in your clothes or pajamas as happens to be. And do we have any last parting words for the audience? Before we leave them to go to maximumfund.rogs.jsonate. I think you took the words right out of my mouth, Elliot. Oh. Yeah, give me my words back. Mm-hmm.

Never. You've got my words. And I've got a special set of skills. Word skills. Yeah, Dan's got Needy to baby bird those words back into his mouth. Yeah Guys, how long do you think until someone tries to pitch a thriller movie based on words with friends? Think a very long time. I don't I mean like unless you've got a really killer idea that you want to pitch us But I don't know that was it. That was the full idea. Okay.

Like, here's the thing people do. Let's do like a thriller based on it. Okay. So, Ian, maximumfun.org slash donate to support all the podcasts you love. And we should sign off now for the flat house. I've bit Dan McCoy. Hey guys, I'm still Stewart Wellington. And my math robe, I'm Elliot Kaylen.

See ya. Byeee! Let's keep with Skype this time around and maybe we can try FaceTime as an experiment next time. Okay, try it as a experiment. You guys. Well, I'm Jeffy from Family Circus. That actually explains a lot. Yeah, it explains why I have dotted lines behind me wherever I go. That's a little Billy.

Okay, piece of shit. Get your family circus right, asshole. Alright, well I think we have the R&D. It's like those two ghosts. It wasn't me and I have no idea. Dan, you know they're not me and I don't know. Alright. Maximumfund.org

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