The Flop House - Ep #268 - Truth or Dare

Episode Date: October 13, 2018

The most wondrous time of the year, SHOCKTOBER is here! And to start us off, we watched Truth or Dare AKA Blumhouse's Truth or Dare AKA Teens be Dyin'. Meanwhile, Elliott explains the miracle of birth, Dan explains the fear of death, and Stuart spins tales of spring break memories. Wikipedia synopsis for Truth or Dare Movies recommended in this episode: The Duelists Undisputed 3: Redemption What Keeps You Alive

On this episode we discuss... Truth or Dare? Okay, I choose Dare. Okay, watch this movie. Nooooo! Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Elliot Kalen pronouncing my name the way I usually do. Elliot was so taken aback by that. He had to take a take a breath. So welcome to the

flop house. If you're just joining us, if there's your first time listening, kind of like a little primer, if we each of us were lettuces, okay, hear me out, hear me out, guys. I think we know the choice, but here you are. Yeah. Elliot would be a Ruggola, right? Because he's spicy and a little intelligent. A little intelligent. Yeah.

I mean, I guess I was more qualifying or Ruggola is being slightly more intelligent than all the other lettuces. Yeah, I appreciate that. Dan, you would be iceberg. I'm a little bit standard. Because deep down, I think that. Dan, you would be iceberg. Oh, yes, Dan. Because deep down, I think everybody just wants an iceberg wedge, you know? Okay.

And me, I don't know, I'd be like, I crumbled up bag of Doritos that you put off the cell. Stuart, you know what kind of lettuce you would be? Foxy brand lettuce. Because oh boy, have you got it going on? Hey, you've been working out, what's going on, babe? You're doing it together. We all complimented each other. I know.

So that's been the flop house, the podcast where we rate each other on a scale of lettuce. Do it next episode. What are get to rate ourselves on next time? Types of radishes. Oh, boy, I got to do some research. You got to look it up. No vegetable fan, Elliot, all have to be research. I like plenty of vegetables, thank you.

You like mozzarella sticks? Yeah, yeah, you mentioned Doritos. That's another favorite of vegetables. Thank you. Uh-huh. You like mozzarella sticks. Uh, yep. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned Doritos. That's another favorite of mine. Hot dogs. Let's not forget those. Yep. Guys, can we just call this podcast the sleephouse and take a little nap? Nope. We cannot do that. Guys, okay. I'm going to pull back the curtain and by which I mean pull back the curtain over the windows so the light comes in and wakes Dan out of his stupor. Dan is very tired. I'm also a little tired.

I was up very early this morning with a baby that would not sleep. And Dan is tired because he was at a horror movie marathon. And so it's a real goofess and gallant type scenario where we both knew that we were recording earlier than usual the next day. I- How early. You're too hard on yourself. You're not a goofess.

Go. Yeah, I made the mistake. A goofess makes the mistake of having a child. Gallant does not have a child and can do whatever he wants for this schedule. Wow, that sounds great. Yeah, that's highlights for adults. Fun without a purpose. Yeah.

Uh-huh. Find it in the, I guess, the geriatric part of the hospital, we're waiting room. You mean the hospital? Highlights for adults? Hospital, yeah. Yeah, I know. By geriatric part of the hospital,

you just mean hospital. Like it's, I get it. Unless this is one of those, this is like one of those future worlds where they sequester old people away so that nobody has to see them and be reminded of their own mortality. I mean, what about that part of the hospital where you get to go up and look through the window and you see all the little, uh, the little babies in the, in the bins? Uh, yeah, if, it's sometimes

full of babies, but sometimes it's just full of old people lying in those little bins. And you know, that was, oh, that's my old person. See, that's my grandpa in there. I think that is, how does that work? Is that a take a baby, leave a baby situation my grandpa in there. I think that is how does that work? Is that a take a baby, leave a baby situation? Or... Exactly. Yes. If you need a baby, you can just take one.

If you haven't have an extra baby, just be nice. Baby it forward. Leave a baby for somebody else to use. And LA, I believe the scenario you described of babies or old persons was a cut sequence from the Metallica Inter Sandman video. I think so. So what are we doing this podcast for real Dan? So what do we do here dude?

This is a podcast where we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it. And oh boy, is it the most wonderful time of the year? Oh yeah, okay. Shocktober. Whoa. Well, it's for movies. Because we want to be totally spookified for no season. Well, as an M.S. Oh, sorry, I was just saying the evil grin

the day it was giving me was taking giving me flashbacks of the movie we watched. Yep. Oh, because there's a lot of evil grinning and it, hey, do you guys like the black hole sun video? Because then you might like the special effects in truth or dare. But let's explain.ots over for a moment.

I mean, that was a super popular video. It was huge, yeah, people loved it. It was everywhere. So October, as we know, ends in Halloween or All Hallows Eve. The period when the veil between our world and the world of the spirits is the thinnest. Much as a woman's cervix,

thinns to the point of imperceptibility as baby is arriving, so that the child may pass through. Throughout October, the veil between our world and that of the dead gets thinner and thinner, or as a mystic from an ethnic tribe in a Richard Bachman-based movie might say,

thinner, thinner. You can't see the hand motion I'm doing movie might say, thinner, thinner. You can't see the hands motion I'm doing, but I'm making it thinner. Anyway, so we'd like to get people ready for that time at the end of October by talking about scary movies, because you know who likes scary movies? Who?

Everybody. Oh, okay. I don't know if that's actually correct. So what were you saying about cervixes? Stuart, and may you surprise you to know that a woman's body is not just always ready for a baby to just drop right out of that thing. It's got to be prepared over a course of a process called labor. Now, if you look at this chart, you'll see that this part of the body is where the baby

is, and this part of the body. Did you draw that whole chart just now? Yeah, I did. I did it very quickly from memory because the experience of watching this happen scars you greatly. And I see it even when I close my eyes, much like the scary movies we watch in the October. Now, Dan, if I like to ask you a question, we all know Stuart loves scary movies because they remind him that the only truly scary thing in life is not having

lived fully but then why do you like scary movies uh... well i probably actually like them because of my fear of death and by you know going through sort of a kabuki uh... of experiencing that fear of death through watching

film, I can overcome it in my real life. Mm-hmm. Sort of a car assist that becomes therapeutic, yeah. So if that was your joke answer, what was your real? Now that was my real answer. And then dance like, real answers, I love blood and boobs. Whoa. No, that's good.

No, that's right. Well, that would be my joke answer, actually, but it's also real because every joke has just a little truth in it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So that chicken really did cross the road is what you're saying? I'm, yeah, at one point, what's going on upstairs? There's a lot of banging going on in my apartment. I apologize if it's going to run. Yeah, it's, it's like somebody is just playing the chain saw part from that jackal song. I think maybe they have like a rowing machine or something.

I don't know what it is. Well, guys, that's been the flop house, the show where we talk about what's going on above Dan's apartment and try to guess what it is. Join us next week when Dan's neighbors are clearly having sex, but Dan is so disgusted by it. He doesn't want to say that's what's happening. And he comes up with a lot of other explanations, a handsball court in the apartment.

Sure. Why not? I mean, I feel like I feel like Dan, like investigating the, the, the, the dangerous liaisons going up in the apartment above and sounds like a pretty good idea for a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. You might have been call it dangerous liaisons going up in the apartment above and sounds like a pretty good idea for a podcast. Yeah, yeah, you might even call it dangerous liaisons. Oh, I mean, I kind of already said that, but I'm okay. Okay, so Dan, what movie do we watch as if the audience didn't know because we announced at the very beginning of the show? We watched Truth or Dare, aka, LUMHouses Truth or Dare. Is that how you pronounce it? Not Bloom House?

Bloom House, I don't know. Somebody call up Judy Bloom and find it. So, Judy, what do you call your house? Now, they called it that I assume because there's like three or four other movies called Truth or Dare, a couple of which just came out in the last few years. Right. And when we, when we all collectively watch this movie on our own, we had to do a lot of double checking that we were watching the right one.

Yeah. Yeah. Wanted to let the right one in. I was in the eyeballs. Yeah. I was like halfway through the Madonna's Truth or Dare before you guys started. Oh boy. What a mistake.

And you're like, this is fair enough for different reasons. This is great. So did we all watch the right one? We all watched the one with the weird smiles on their faces, right? Yeah, I think so. Okay, so we'll talk about what happens in this movie. Good, then we're figuring this out now. Now we watched the theatrical cut, right?

You guys didn't watch the special edition because that was what was available on I. Dan, which is what I was in. So if there's something that I saw that you guys didn't see, like it's not because I was on Iowaska or something. It was the first guess I was gonna have. Okay, director's vision. Well, we'll see if it affects our ratings. So Dan, if there's anything that you saw

in the director's cut, which includes deleted scenes that were too hot for TV, you tell us, okay? All right. So, we begin the story of truth or dare, a terrifying tale of truth, dares, and truth or dares. I was really hoping the title had three things in it, but it only had two things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Took you a little while to figure it out. Our story begins near the Mexican border where a young woman stops into a gas station to

buy cigarettes until a sinister voice out of seemingly out of nowhere, although it appears to be coming off the phone, says, truth or dare. And she's like, no, I don't want to play anymore. She says truth or dare. And she says dare, no, I don't want to play anymore. She says, truth or dare. And she says, dare. And then she lights a woman on fire. Cut to. Red College, hey everybody.

I mean, at this point, we know this isn't your daddy's game of truth or dare, right? No, because my daddy's game of truth or dare, it would be like dare. I dare you to enlist in the army and go fight and Vietnam. And then he would have to do that. Yeah, that's true. But that was when my dad was, you know,

was a young, a young buck who would play Truth or Dare. Although to be honest, not to say too much about my dad now, I could totally see him playing a game of Truth or Dare now with his grown up older friends in his 60s and getting into trouble for it and me having to get him out of that trouble. But hopefully that will happen. It's a real shameless situation. Cut to, we're at college. getting into trouble for it and me having to get him out of that trouble. But hopefully that will happen.

It's a real shameless situation. Cut to, we're at college and there's six friends who are going to go on spring break to Mexico. It's their last spring break before they graduate. You want me to run down these friends because at first I had a lot of trouble telling them apart and I had to work very hard to get them down. So, so I lay out our cast of characters. What are you talking about? They each have like one individual down. So, so I lay out our cast of characters. What are you talking about? They each have like one individual characteristic.

Yeah, yeah. Except for the one girl, Penelope, who has no individual characteristic. Oh, that's true. I guess she drinks the jerk. Yeah, your boyfriend's a jerk, that's true. You also have, you have three male main characters in this movie who all look kind of the same,

and they don't even have different color hair. But anyway, the women, thankfully, have mostly different color hair, so we can tell them apart. And they're strong, of course, very detailed and nuanced personalities. You've got Marquis, the blonde party girl, who's always cheating on boyfriend.

Yeah, she's made a better, the television song, right? Yeah. Yeah, she's named it from Marquis Moon. You have her best friend, Olivia, who's a brunette. And you know, Olivia's like the good girl to markys bad girl because Olivia doesn't want to go to mexico she wants to volunteer with habitat for humanity but they won't let her it's time for them to spend their last spring break together and there's their other friend

panellope who is also there like i don't know she doesn't really have a personality then you got the three dudes there's what lukeus who i think is Marquis boyfriend, but he has feelings for Olivia. You've got Tyson, who is Penelope's boyfriend, and he's a bad boy. He's real sarcastic and he writes fraudulent prescriptions

that he sells to freshmen for pills. And then you've got third guy who is gay and Asian, but I didn't catch his name. So he has the most going on of all the characters, and I don't know what his name is. Like George or Oscar or something like that. Yeah, yeah. John old.

Let's go. I'm checking it right. All right, Stuart's on the case. Look up his name. Detective Google is. Who is Young Sheldon on Young Sheldon? No, no. No, no. This is Detective Google in every case.

They go, Detective Google, my father was murdered. Can you help me? What did your father's feet look like? I don't see how that's relevant to this Detective Google. Trust me. First thing I need to know about anybody, what was their feet? So guys, his name is Brad. Brad, okay.

Yeah, very memorable. Okay. So they go down to Mexico. We see an opening credits montage entirely made up of like Snapchat videos and pictures that just shows us, I guess, why we want them to die because they're irritating Americans just getting drunk and making out in Mexico. Now guys, I never went on like a spring break trip. Did you guys, is this what it's really like?

Or is this just what the movies make it look like? The only quote and quote, spring break trip I went on was not a spring break trip. It was a trip that was on spring break, which was I was in London. All right, Mr. Semantics. Let's split some more hairs, why don't we? I was in London for a semester

and everyone traveled over spring break. And so I went up to the party town of Edinburgh and Aberdeen. Oh, those are great towns. Oh, they're in Stragon some town. No, they're fantastic towns. Well, I mean, Aberdeen's not so great. It's kind of like just a bunch of cement buildings. Fun fact about Aberdeen was beautiful, though.

Aberdeen was the name of one of my first cats. That is a fun fact about Aberdeen. I mean, it's more fun fact about your cat than the city. But no, no, it's on the website for the city. It's really big. The Aberdeen chamber of commerce put that up there. Yeah, the Aberdeen chamber of catmers. Okay. So Stuart, what about you?

Now in high school, I went on a spring break road trip where we piled into a big old Oldsmobile and drove down to St. Petersburg, Florida, a place that had more old people than I expected. There was a Salvador Dolly museum. Oh, I've been to the museum. And there was a great... And when we would hang out on the beach at night, there would be clusters of angry drunk guys looking at any other guys who would walk by as if they were potential threats to their precious supply of ladies.

It was kind of a weird experience. So you're saying, you guys are saying I didn't miss out on much by spending most of my spring breaks. I think just going to the movies a lot. Mm-hmm. I mean, I think that probably prepared you better for a life of bad movie podcasting and writing for mystery science theater 3000. I mean, there was that one spring break where me and my bikini clad friends got into trouble

with a drug dealer played by James Franco. Uh, and I think we had to break or something. I don't remember that well, because I've never seen it. Okay. I was way to say this joke based entirely on parts of the trailer. It's almost, it's even more than that. It's like joke based on the poster. But okay.

So they're long story short. They go to a big dance party. Olivia stops Markey from just cheating on her boyfriend right there in front of everybody. And Olivia hits it off. At that point, I'm concerned that Markey has, the Markey has a serious problem. Like because her boyfriend is sitting five feet away.

Yeah. Like at that point, I feel like she, it's more than just like she's drunk. Like she has some kind of deep psychological issue that needs to be dealt with. I think the only way you can deal with that is by playing a supernatural game of truth or dare. But we'll see. We'll see. I mean, she does have that deep issue. Stuart, you're psychologizing. Your armchair, psychologizing is dead on because when a kind

of weirdo guy who Olivia, for some reason, does not see a mile away is a creep, even though he has stubble, the movie sign for creepy guy. He says, he does, he does protect her from my favorite character, the movie Ron Ron. Tell us about Ron Ron. Ron Ron, I believe is a guy who goes to the same college. Yeah, they're in college. Yeah, they go to college, state university. So Ron Ron is this like the most broadly drawn horn dog character who just the mere concept of two girls sharing a chased kiss drives him into paroxysms of ecstasy. He's he's playing there.

Everyone else is playing their characters like they're in a horror movie and he's playing his character like he's in a snobs versus lobs like frat movie and I like. Yeah, like a directive video American Paisie boy. He's like from now on, Ron, Ron will be the new Mick Loveon. Okay. Okay. So this guy says, hey, the party's dying down here. You want to have some more fun? He takes them to an abandoned church

where Olivia finds, Olivia's one of these millennials. She takes pictures of everything. So of course, she's digging through the crap on the floor of this abandoned church and there's burned photos. And there's a jar of something that smells bad which is our first clue other than the fact that a creepy guy took them to an abandoned church That maybe this wasn't a great place to be and the Carter says hey, let's play truth or dare They do they do all your classic truth or dare stuff someone has to streak someone

Reveals a secret Tyson is like hey, Marky, do you know Olivia loves your boyfriend? And it's like, oh, oh, yeah, that dude, that dude like goes from zero to 60 super super quickly. Well, he's mad that they're in this church and that that is where to that is to my point, which is that this is where I texted you guys watching the movie and was like, no teens have ever acted this way. where I texted you guys watching the movie and was like, no teens have ever acted this way, because they're already like, they're already partied out and they're at the end of the night at a bar.

And then the guys are like, let's take a big hike to an abandoned thing, like way out on the coast. And every character at that point, except for Ron Ron sadly, he's wandered away after Carter made him feel bad. Carter is the creepy guy. Every character has someone they can pair up with and go off and have sex with. Yeah. It makes no sense

that yeah, at that time of night, they wouldn't be like, all right, so I guess we're all just going to like go back for rooms and do it because that's what we really are here for. Yeah. Instead, yeah, they go, let's take a hike and sneak under some fencing so we can go to with a banded church. Wonderful. And let's play Truth or Dare. Like the fact that they, I mean, they're, the fact that they're so easily convinced to play Truth or Dare as like a bunch of like, I don't know, or any college kid. I mean, is that a thing that people still do?

I don't know. Well, even in the movie, they're like, they're like, come, they're like, come on. What is this? A slumber party? Okay. Sure. We'll have to, we're doing a show to college pretty soon. So we'll just pull the audience on. They're like, come on, what is this? The slumber party? Okay, short gray. We'll have to, we're doing a show to college pretty soon, so we'll just pull the audience on this one. Yeah, let's say who let's know what their show.

Do you guys do that? Can we go? I, I, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not so fast. Why are you trying to get us invited to a truth or dare game? Because I want to get Dan to do a bunch of crazy dares. Okay. Uh, okay. And maybe the legendary double dare.

Oh, man. Yeah. That's what we're going to have to climb through a giant thing. I have to find a flag and a big nose. That's exactly what I want you to do, Dan. Reach inside a big nose full of gack and just pull that flag out. I feel like that giant nose has led me to some interesting finishes. There must be some kid that double deer just imprinted on them in just the right moment

and they have like a green slime and reach and trying to find a flag fetish. Yeah, yeah. So this is a guy who like turned into, you know, after school, he opened up his own startup, he's a tech mogul and he brings his, he brings a girl home. He opens up his his own startup, he's a tech mogul and he brings a girl home, he opens up his own startup. His red room, yeah, he opens up his red room, red because that's the official color double-dare. And she, and he's like, my interests are different

and he turns on the light and it's just a giant nose filled with big bookers. I happen to be involved in some unorthodox, erotic play and she's like, oh really? And he's like, you got 60 seconds to find that flag inside that nose. And in a corner tied to a chair is Mark Summers who hates me, who hates messes. So he's like, ah, I don't like this at all. You stay there Mark Summers. I'll unwrap you later.

Because you also hosted the show Unwrapped on the Food Network. And Mark's Summers is like, stop telling me things that I did. Yeah, yeah, that's his torture for the rest of his life is being told the things he did. I, so guys, just a little bit of feedback. I will say, in my experience as a bar owner, I find it not uncommon for couples who long should have gone to someplace private,

will still remain in a public setting and hang out and make out and you're like, why are you still here? Get out of my bar, get out of the back room, my bar. Get out of here, you crazy kids. That's what you say. Yeah. Uh huh.

There are really kids. They're usually older people. And you have a broom that you're spoking the wood. Maybe part of it is, maybe for our double dare, double dare, our truth or dare playing college kids, maybe part of it is the like excitement of being in public and playing this game, Dan. What do you think?

Oh, maybe, yeah. Okay. So it's a voyeurism exhibitionism thing. That's what I'm trying to say. So, I mean, that's what double truth or dare is all about. Stuart, your multiple slips of the tongue have led me the idea, why haven't had since someone done a horror movie version of Double Dare? I mean, the sequel is going to, blue mouse's truth or dare is truth or double dare. I mean, the sequel is going to to to Blue Mouse's Truth or Dare is truth or double dare. And then of

course, the third one, truth or double dog dare. That's one. It's actually dogs that talk. A high and it features three dog night. Okay, guys, let's keep moving forward at this movie. So they asked truth or dare to Carter, the creepy guy, and he says, Oh, I lowered you here to save myself because once you're in this game, you got a play or you die, and then guy, and he says, oh, I lured you here to save myself because once you're in this game, you've got to play or you die, and then he leaves. And they go to college, they go back home.

And they're like, what a weirdo. They're like crazy. And Olivia finds that the words truth or dare have been written all over the place on her desk, on a flyer that a creepy homeless man gives her, and on her car. They've been keyed into a car. She thinks Ron did it but he didn't we also find out that that's not Ron Ron style yeah Ron Ron is if he's gonna do that he's not

gonna do it secretly he's gonna do it right in front of you going like does this turn you on you want to make out with me now what about another woman because that's Ron Ron man he knows what he wants look Ron Ron is so purely Ron Ron that even though he's a creep you got to admire just how true to himself He is there's a simplicity to Ron Ron that is at least somewhat charming Yeah, he's he's the uncarved block in Taoism Guy reads the Tao of poo once Never even got through the Cheeopiglet.

Didn't even want to finish it. Now, we also learned that Marke's dad committed suicide a while back, and she watches the final video of him cooking her a salmon steak over and over again. Okay. His name was Mark. So, random people just start giving Olivia black hole sun CGI smiles these big old grins that look basically everyone turns into apex twins right yeah yeah that cover that apex twin I mean they've got like real droopy like faces yeah they all turn into jokers they're like their smile is all droopy they all got a blast of smile like to the face. Yeah. And they all start saying true through to your teeth.

Yeah, like droopy doesn't smile. He said, no, I'm not saying droopy dog. I'm saying like the bottom of their lips are like, droop down like, oh, okay. So it's kind of like eyes flash red, right? Yeah. It's kind of like Roger Ebert smile near the end of his life after his jaw had been removed.

Oh, dude, oh man. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I mean, I don't want to say it. I'm just trying to find an authentic parallel. And I also watched life itself recently, very touching. No, great movie. The thing is though, there's the CGI. We're talking about life itself, the Roger Ebert documentary, by the way.

We're not talking about life itself, the recent release, which I really want to do in the fly pass. But Dan, you're saying. Yeah, we'll probably do. Yeah. There are the smiles that are enhanced by CGI, but sometimes the guy, the, the main characters are possessed by a demon or whatever. And they just like, it's a demon, Dan. It's not whatever as we'll find out it's a demon.

They just do their own version of a creepy smile. Like, it's not a CGI smile. And it's the dumbest looking face I feel. Let's really see it. Every time they do it, it's just like, what is wrong with you? Like, yeah, why are you giving me that goof face? Yeah, they're like doing a creepy smile,

and they're like, oh, that looks terrible. No, we'll fix it in post. Yeah. But there's a thin line between creepy smile in this movie and the smile of the dancing old man from the Six six flags commercials. Like they're basically the same smile. Okay, guys, Olivia overcome.

She picks truth and yells out, Marke is always cheating on her boyfriend right in front of the crowded library and Marke and her boyfriend, Lucas. Uh, uh, who's going to believe her that it was some kind of supernatural thing that made her do it? Meanwhile, Ron, and at that point, Lucas immediately believes here, which means I think deep down he suspected all along. Oh, yeah. You have to know. I mean, he, he literally saw her dancing with another

guy in Mexico, like, uh-huh. Yeah. And this what, uh, then this wasn't the kids are all right, type scenario where he doesn't mind that she's dancing with another guy because they he knows them pretty well. Okay. So Stuart coming up next is Ron Ron's farewell to the film. Would you like to describe it or shall I? Yeah, so Ron Ron is in a local, local bar and a lady, what, pumps into him or passes him and truth or dares and. No, no, he hits on the lady and she says no,

and then she truth or dares. Okay, I mean, I think memory's a weird thing, Elliot. Ha, ha, ha, ha. So she does a creepy face and just truth or dare. And while a normal person would see that creepy smile and would be like, I'm getting out of here instead, like it, like, oh wow, it's like, did he just unlock the Lamar Shane configuration?

Is this a new form of pleasure? He's never experienced. So he dares him to show everybody his weener, and he's like, fuck yeah, I don't care, I'm Ron Ron. And he finds on top of the pool table. He literally is like everybody, everybody look at me, like he starts orating to all of them. He is holding forth like Tom Cruise orating to all of them. He is holding

forth like Tom Cruise in any bar scene in cocktail and unfortunately his ego is punctured when multiple women reveal that they have seen his penis before already and that it is unimpressive which seems ridiculous. And so Ron run decides that he will not do the dare and that's when the trouble starts because he his face turns into a demon face and his eyes flash red and you realize he's no longer in control of his bodily functions in which point you're wondering is Ron run already dead, you know? So then he almost falls on a pool queue and you're like, up, they're going to try and final destination me and give me a couple fake outs. And then he slips on a pool of all and immediately breaks his neck

and dies. Yeah. He falls and snaps his neck on another billiard table. Luckily, everyone's recording it on their phones because they really wanted to see Ron Ron's penis and have it recorded for posterity. I assume to watch again later in the comfort of their own homes, they could really examine it, you know computer enhance Let's take a look. Yep computer use my my app that measures penises from photos and video. Okay, great They're gonna upload it to the Ron Ron section of view porn Surprisingly well attended section

So this cell phone video gets texted to all of the other players of the game and Olivia's friends don't believe that they're cursed now, but Olivia's and they watch the video at the exact same time You like you're watching them watch it and they're it's synced up perfectly. It's crazy They all right. They all they all react to the death at the same point. Yeah My favorite part though my my favorite part is they all watch it at different points, but it sinks up. But then when Olivia leaves, the scene ends with Tyson then replaying the video, just watching it by himself, and it was like, dude, you really want to see him die again? Like, what are you doing?

That's terrible. Yeah. Well, I mean, Tyson has been revealed to be an ass-white. That's true. Yeah, and do you think it's a situation because they all started at different times that it's like almost like performed a laughter, like one person freaked out and everyone else was like, oh, I guess I should freak out too. Yeah, and one person,

there's one person who's dead inside and does not feel any feelings about someone watching someone dying, but they're like, I guess based on the general tone of the room. Susan, there's a sociopath there who's like, I better put on the mask of sympathy that allows me to pass among others as a human with emotions. Exactly.

I thought, I wondered if there was one person they all went, oh, no, Ron Ron and there's one person being like, I haven't gotten there yet. Stop. Okay, now I saw it. Please, spoilers. No spoilers, please. I'm watching the Ron Ron video.

There's one person, you know what? Yeah, Ron Ron video, make sure to stay to the end. They're all there. If this, if this was a comedy, then they'd all be disgusted and there'd be one person who hadn't watched yet and was like, his penis can't be that bad, can it? And then would play the video.

So, Marquis boyfriend is next up to play the game. This is Lucas. And he starts hearing voices. The words truth or dare burn themselves into his arm for a moment. He calls Olivia and says, I have feelings for you, it's true, because he got truth.

Markey is next. She doesn't believe it. She chooses dare. And so the dare is break Olivia's hand. And she's like, I'm not gonna do that. That's crazy. Olivia's like, do it or you'll die. Cause as Ron Run showed, if you don't pull off the dare, you die. You get to, you get possessed by this demon. And it kills you in a final destination

these stupid way. So Olivia's like, do it, do it, do it. I do want to defend final destination. I don't know. Final destination is so desperately wishes it was final destination. Final destination is the good first. Because of the real final destination, it follows situation, but bad. Yeah, this movie. This movie is a, it is like if someone took it follows, the script for it follows and like,

dumbed it down by like 3,000%. You know, and we're like, the problem is, we don't know what the it is. Wouldn't it be scarier if instead of being some abstract force that we never really understand, but that possesses, takes the form of dead bodies, it is a demon named Calix that was brought to Earth by a nun, and it's like, no, I don't think so, but we'll get to that.

I mean, if you're gonna have an abstract force killing people, like, you gotta have a Tony Todd. Right. Well, I don't know if you need a Tony. I mean, to explain, you mean like, uh, yeah, or like a guy with a lot of charisma. Like Tony Todd, who can show up and tell you what's going on. Yeah. I mean, it helps to have Tony Todd in any movie because he's amazing. And you can't keep your eyes off him. But, uh, so, uh, Olivia tells her to do it. And it's like, and she gives her a hammer and it's like,

hit my hand or you're gonna die. And then she's like, are you a coward? Like you're dead and Marke gets mad and breaks her hand. She did it. Now she's not gonna die. At the hospital. That was her pressure point. The, what I love about it is as soon as she hammers her friend's hand, like half of the

friends just scatter. They're like, oh, I got a lot of homework to do. Leaving only a couple of people to take her to the hospital. Like that's wild, dude. Yeah. This movie, as I texted you, this movie should have been called Bad Friends. Mm-hmm. Because it could have jumped onto that bad blank bandwagon that's so hot right now.

It is one thing that we, sorry, I go on, Elliot. And I was gonna say, it is one of those movies where two characters are supposed to be best friends who love each other, but they're consistently shitty to each other throughout the entire movie and they don't seem to like each other or like being around each other. Dan, what are you gonna say? Speaking of best friends who I don't like being around, Dan, what are you gonna say? Just kidding, Dan, I love you. I love spending time with you. For a movie called Truth or Dare that's about, you know, like, of people being forced to sort of look out for themselves and put their, like, interests above other people's to keep themselves alive.

Like this movie really, on the early scenes, ladles on with a heavy hand, be like, we're friends, like, I'll always put you ahead of me, like, and like, that, you know, like in, in the initial truth or dare, there's like a moral question that kicks off the whole thing, which is like, would you sacrifice yourself and your friends for millions of other people? Yeah, they were like, if aliens came down and they're either gonna kill us in this room

or everyone in Mexico, who would you choose? Like it's such a ridiculously weighted moral question where it's like, I'm kind of a dick if I choose the seven Americans over the millions of people who live in Mexico. Like that's crazy. 100, what, 100 and 50 million, 200 million people who live in Mexico, like that's crazy.

I'm just saying that the foreshadowing of the themes is ladle on with a heavy hand, like cheese whiz on a nacho. Yeah, and the level of like, do they usually lose ladles for that? Put the cheese whiz on a nacho. Yeah, and the level of like. Did they usually use ladles for that? Put the cheese whiz on? Yeah, well, you take the can and you spray the cheese into a ladle.

And then you go out to your dinner party and you say, I'm made fresh cheese. The waiter at the nacho restaurant, the French waiter who has the big fat of cheese whiz. Hello, little more cheese whiz for the nachos and then takes a ladle and just goops it on there. Yeah. So what you're saying, something about ladles? But it was the way that they'd make a point of telling everybody how important their friendship is,

is not that far from, say a fantasy movie, talking about how a character is prophesized to be important, right? Yeah. Where you're supposed to be watching this and be like, break or hand, but they told me they're best friends. Mm-hmm. Exactly.

So, but the truth or daring is not, look, and you're, as you're saying, bad friends, barely any of them go with their to the hospital on glow when someone breaks a bone, everybody goes to the hospital to keep them company because they're real friends. Yeah, I feel like comparing yourself to the ladies of glow is an unfair yardstick. I guess I say his mom, mom house is truth or dare is no glow. It is not trying to be in the succeed. Yeah. So at the hospital, Brad, he has a, he has a, he has a whole wasted

amount of time with a malfunctioning vending machine and a dead person who talks to him. But he gets truth or dare. Truth he chooses and he has to come out to his dad, which turns out fine. We don't see the moment of the coming out, but he seems unaffected by it, which is great. I can know. Well, I think he's more than unaffected. I think he has a weight lifted off his shoulders. It was actually that was a the more I'm like, oh wow, truth or dare can be a force of good. Yeah. That a guy's able

to come out to his perceived homophobic father and get a sense of relief out of it. Yeah. And as the father says in the scene later on, you're still my son, which implies a certain amount of judgment about being gay, but still tolerance, ultimately. So, I guess what we're all saying is, guys, if you're having trouble telling your family something that's very important to you, what you're worried about, get possessed by the demon callus in a band in Mexican church, and that'll help you out.

Okay, but, uh-oh, things don't work out so well for Tyson, the sarcastic drug dealing boyfriend of Penelope. He's getting in, he's has an interview with the Dean of a Med School. It took me a while to figure out what this interview was about. Was it for a job? Oh, he just wants to get into med school, but he's about to graduate. He should know what med school he's going into. And the demon takes over the Dean, smiley face, truth or dare, truth, whatever. How long have you been foraging prescriptions to sell to freshmen? He's like, I don't do that. Takes his special pen that he uses to forge prescriptions, stabs himself in the head until

he's dead. And his friends almost get there in time to, I don't know what, I don't know how they were going to stop that scenario, but they get there just as the blood is flowing out under the door and they're like, ah, ah, what are these good things? There's a lot of talk about like how we can't leave anyone alone, but it's never clear what the other people think they're going to be able to do. Yeah, other than be super grossed out. Yeah.

And Tyson has this little speech about making himself out to be this great guy who's choosing medicine because he wants to help people. So the theme of hypocrisy is still running through the movie very subtly as Dan was saying, ladle full of cheese whizz and all that. Okay. I think that, you know what, guys? I want to introduce, I want that to be the new phrase for when things are just a little too heavy handed movie to say, then they really ladle on the cheese whizz. All right. Like years from now, that's going to be on Urban Dictionary and they're going to be like

scholars will have to trace it back to us. Yeah, well, if it's on Urban Dictionary and they're gonna be like scholars will have to trace it back to us. Yeah well if it's on Urban Dictionary. We'll get an email about possible new sponsor, cheese whizzes. If it's on Urban Dictionary then the first definition though is going to be like when you jizz all over someone's food or something like that like this. Urban Dictionary always has the sex one first. Okay sorry guys I've just been uploading a lot of fake entries into Urban Diction Okay, sorry guys. I've just been uploading a lot of fake entries into urban dictionary about food jizzin Okay, so what are the kids so what are the kids gonna do next? There's only one thing you can do Google Mexico truth or dare and find an article

About the girl we saw in the opening who lit someone on fire They do a little bit of Facebook detective work find her Facebook page and send her a message that says hey And Markey is like Olivia don't be too nice in the message She writes a message that says, Hey, and Marke is like, Olivia, don't be too nice in the message. She writes a message that says, we saw you like that woman on fire. Meet with us, we'll do the same to your family. It's like, whoa, Marke didn't need much to push her into. Madness, it seems.

Yeah, yeah, she was still hesitant to smash a hand, but as soon as her dad's brought up, as soon as her dad's name is invoked, she is driven to rage. Oh yeah. Penelope is the next one to get truth or dare. She gets dare. The demon won't let her pick truth.

What's going on? And she has to walk along the outside of a roof while finishing a bottle of booze. And for some reason, she keeps walking and not drinking that much. She says, I have to keep walking around the roof until I finish this booze. It's like, so just drink as much as you can each time. Like stop taking these baby sips and then walking around the roof until I finish this booze. It's like, so just drink as much as you can each time.

Like stop taking these baby sips and then walking around the whole side. I mean, it's like a whole, it's like a whole bottle of vodka though, dude. That's a lot to, like that just on volume alone. It's a lot. I'm just saying, this is, I'm just telling her to strategize the way I would strategize, which is, China me a whole bottle of vodka, shimmy down the chimney back to safety.

Yeah, you're just playing Monday morning, uh, dare doer. I don't think that's fair. Okay. Fair point. I wasn't in the situation. The, and I mean, she's also, she's also coping with the death of her boyfriend. Lowe, no, Tyson,

Loki, is that what you're going to say? Yeah. Tyson. Uh, yeah, the harmonic device I was using was chicken man. Uh, but everyone works together. Yeah, and she walks around the roof and this is the moment where it became exceedingly apparent that this movie was kind of like the sequences were bargain basement Final destination because like that's it seems like this that people are going to a fucking novelty truth or dare horror movie like you're going for like a wacky ass dare scenario where you're like

whoop, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, yeah, and you don't really get that here. No, and even they managed to save her by use it. It's clear that the demon wants her to slip and fall onto some spiked Fencing but instead they manage to break it down with a car and put a mattress on top of that car And she falls onto the mattress and she's okay for one scene because they go in In jazel the girl from the first the opening scene and the girl is like, I don't know We walked into this church and my friends smashed it up and then we started playing truth or dare and blah blah blah and it's my turn and my dears to shoot Olivia Penelope jumps in front of Olivia saving her life and dying and I have to imagine if if Tyson was there

He would have been like why do we work so hard to save her? That was a waste of time Well, I think when I think when you're Writing a story early at sometimes a character is more interesting when they're dead than when they're alive Hmm, we have never seen like the effect of her death on everyone, which is actually feels immediately forgotten. Yeah, they actually, they don't, but if an LB is the friend who disappears the fastest from their minds, they're like, Tyson, why not Tyson? Didn't Tyson have a girlfriend? Yeah, I think they broke up or something. And like she shows herself to be the only true friend because like we have never seen anything in the movie to suggest that she would jump in front of a bullet for a living.

But she does. She does just that in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the finale. It is like Olivia, but she's the best of us. No. No. Come on. She, and she also, she also barely gets a death seat.

Yeah, that's true. We glazed over this, but the reason that they can't do truth all the time is that the Jazal explains that they did like something called like two truths in a dare or something like that, like after every two truths, you have to do a dare. So that people can't just treat forever. And and Alex the demon is like,

hey, you know what, I'm not gonna break the rules. Yeah, I'm gonna take this game and just anyone who gets asked any question is just gonna be marked for death, but you kid set the rules and I'm gonna live with them. Okay, so I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna follow with the two truths in the dare scheme. I'm not gonna mess with what works. Hey, if an ape broke, don't fix it.

That's what us demons say. Unless the broken thing is a conoptic jar that seems to hold my essence, in which case leave that thing broken. Look, if you kids have decided to never have I ever, I would have figured out a way to like make never have I ever scary you know. If you were playing though if you're doing the hokey pokey Simon says it's all gonna be bad look I'll find a way to make it kill you actually Simon says it'd be a better version maybe.

Frankly you're lucky to do Marco Polo or else you'd all be a bloated brown corpses by now. What because they just drown. Yeah probably. Right. So we're playing ghosts in the graveyard. What because they just drown? Yeah, probably. Right? So we're playing ghosts in the graveyard. Oh, you guys are still being that graveyard. If you guys were playing We're Wolf or Mafia, pretty much the same game, Assassin, they also

call it. You'd all be really killing each other. Anyway, you get the drift. I'm a demon. So guys, what if this was called one house's Simon Says? How would the game be different and how would the movie be different? Dan, pitch it to me. Uh, well, everyone would just be told Simon says stab that person and it would happen.

And I don't know, like 10 minutes, the movie would be over. I don't know. Wow. So it's like, uh, that would be in the shorts category of the okay. And I assume at the end, the demon would say, you win. You're free to go leave. And they'd start leaving and it would go, it would smile the end, the demon would say, you win, you're free to go, leave. And they'd start leaving and it would go, it would smile and then go, I didn't say Simon says.

And they'd all explode in hellfire. Awesome. Okay, so, Penelope dead, they get over it. Jacelle, she didn't pull off her dare. So she smileys and shoots herself in the head. Our teens investigate the church where the game took place and they find there was a massacre there only one none survived. Olivia gets truth or dared dared to sleep with Lucas, Marquis boyfriend, and in the middle of sex Olivia smileys, and I got to imagine I have to get Lucas credit for maintaining an erection when Olivia makes that face in the middle of their sexual act.

I don't know if I would have been able to do it. I think that says more about Lucas's personality at this point. Yeah, this big twist them up is at this point, like, they know that death is on the line. Like multiple friends are dead. Shouldn't they just be happy that any of them can find any weird moments of joy, whether or not there would be a joyful, coupling question mark, who knows? Well, this is because Marky is the one who still doesn't quite believe it.

She thinks that this is, I guess, all just a series of coincidences. And so when she's Olivia's like, my dear was to sleep with Lucas and Marky's like, yeah, that sounds right, sure. And Marky is really mad. But yeah, if it's like, look, yes, I have some kinds of feelings for your boyfriend.

But if I don't sleep with them, I'm gonna die would you rather I die and if mark is like let me think about it Then again, not your best friend not a great friend act, you know, yeah So that happens everybody's upset in the middle of sex Olivia Truth or there's Lucas the question is who do you love? But she doesn't do it the fun way she doesn't go, who do you love? Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, I think you're being charitable. I mean, it's more fun than the movie.

It's not that fun, but, uh, and, and Lucas admits that he has feelings for Olivia, but he loves Marke, which I think it's supposed to come across as like sweet in a way, but it's really gross because it's like, I've got feelings for you, but I love Markey. It's like, dude, in this society, you don't get to have more than one. Just like, come on. I mean, I'm not fair to have. I'm not going to be a really judgmental about people's feelings or their lifestyles or whatever. I will be.

But it is, at this point, like, that shouldn't be that huge of a shocker. It's there like being forced into having sex by a demon. Like just, just at this point, it's just survival, right? Well, I think Olivia still is a certain part of her that was like, oh, I want him to be doing this with me for me and not just to save my life but because he also likes me, you know.

But also like had the demon not intervenes. He would have had feelings for Olivia, but he would have kept them quiet and he would have been in love with Markey. Like, the only gross thing about it is that like he's having sex with her at the time that he's forced to be like, I just kind of like you. Sorry. Yeah. I guess it's different levels of emotion involved.

Yeah. I guess that's fair. You know, it's a rich tapestry. It's a layer cake. This thing. Yeah. This movie's like an onion. Just keep peeling the layers and it makes you cry because it's so true.

Yeah. Because this movie is not like a layer cake because there's no Daniel Craig. What would it be like if Daniel Craig was in it? You would say, truth or dare, I la la la. Right, right, right? I mean, probably. I mean, I know. You would say chim chim mini, true.

He would zip up the chimney. Yeah. Well, that's the demon making him do that. I know for a second, he thought that I was being Daniel Craig, doing Daniel Craig, but in this case, I was being Daniel Craig, doing Callix, the demon. I see. I thought you'd do, Daniel Craig, doing Dick Van Dyke from Mary Poppins.

Uh, I don't know that reference, Elliot. I thought there was, I just made that up all close. Oh, So, Markey takes all of the only way she can by watching the video of her dad again and her dad starts talking to her. The demon's inside her phone. Ah, but really, Dan,

do you think about it. It's the demon inside all of our phones since we're addicted to these phones. Oh, man, men, women and children was a good movie. Oh, Iron Man demon in a bottle, more like demon in a phone. Oh, I can't stop looking at Twitter. Okay, so Olivia and Lucas, what else they can do? They go to Tijuana to find that nun who survived

the massacre years ago, but she hasn't spoken in 50 years. So she writes them a letter in English, which they re-allowed about how there was a priest that was abusing the nuns there until one of the young nuns cast a spell to summon a demon, Calix, who possessed their truth, who possessed their game. And it's never clear if they were playing

Truth or Dare, right? They were just playing some kind of game. Yeah, they're probably playing like, I don't know, like, like, trolls and dungeons or is that, is that, it's like a game. It's like, it's like, shoots and lathes. Or is it, it's like, that's the, that's the bootleg version of Dungeons and Dragons. They're like, look, we can't afford dragons, we have trolls. And the Dungeons are not quite as good. So we're gonna lower them in the billing somewhat. They're not gonna get top billing.

Trolls and Dungeons. Sometimes you're gonna go to a dungeon, it's not even gonna have a troll in it. Let's just be honest. This version of Dungeons, it's just, it's not threat. And in fact, and you're like, and you're like, do I waste my time coming here? There's not even a troll.

What's going on? And you're like, this is the worst role- I waste my time coming here? There's not even a troll. What's going on? And you're like, this is the worst role playing game I've played since Dungeon, Dungeonous and Dragons. When you're either a dragon or a Dungeonous crab. Yeah, and I think the, the table is weighted toward rolling crab, right? Oh, yeah, always. Yeah, you have to roll it.

You have to get a perfect 20 to become a dragon. Oh, wow. Otherwise, it's all crabs. And it's on two six-eyeder dice. So like, that's impossible, right? It's a good luck rolling a 20 dudes. Okay, so Ena is the nun. She reveals that she was the one who summoned the demon

and the only way to get rid of it was to say this one, the person who called up the demon has to say a spell seven times and then make a sacrifice in a little pot with a skull painted on it. And that sacrifice is their own tongue. And then I as open surmath and goes, well, I'll show you the stump of her tongue that she cut out. And let's just say compared to the scene in the dentist starring Corbin Bernson, where

someone has their tongue cut out, not as gross. I'm just going to say it, not as effectively gross. Yeah, I feel like I do feel like after a certain point in time, not to make light of people who have lost their tongues, but if I had had, if I had to remove my own tongue for a ritual, years down the road, if a bunch of young sassy teens showed up, I think I'd have to do a tongue waggle. Oh, of course, yeah.

You've got to make sure that to make it through a while. It's like from my understanding the only reason you have children is so you can embarrass them as teenagers in front of their friends. Clearly she's been waiting for this moment because like she doesn't have her caretaker tell the kids like, oh, she doesn't have a tongue so she can't talk. She just like tell them that I won't talk to them. Why did you wrote that down? She says she hasn't said a word in 50 years.

Exactly. And they look at it and they go, okay, vales silence, what are you gonna do? Okay, sure. And her caretakers are like, you're going to large-marge them and she nods in some of the files. Yeah.

And how Pinter is like, this is a very loose version of my play play the caretaker, and I don't appreciate what you're doing. So, that play the caretaker, I got to see it with Jonathan Price in it. He was amazing. So, guys, Jonathan Price, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Star of J.I. Joe Cobras Revenge or whatever. J.I. Joe here comes Cobras again. J. Yeah, Joe here comes Cobra again.

G.I. Joe three. Oh, here he comes. He's a cobra starring Hollin. He's a mighty cobra. What? Go on. I said, here comes honey cobra. Here comes honey cobra. Because it's time for Cobra to red.

Neckognize what's going on here. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, they need to find the guy who put the spell on them, which I guess is Screamin' Jay Hawkins, because they're his. And get him to say this spell and cut out his tongue. And they have to put it in a little jar that I guess Ainez made that has like evil Ernie painted on it. It's some kind of grinning like 90s skull. Yeah, yeah. I'm painted on it. It's some kind of grinning like 90s skull.

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna do it. Yeah, it looks like a failed monster energy drink logo. Yeah. Brad's with his dad when he gets truth or dare. His dad is a cop and the truth or dare says, steal your dad's pistol and make him big for his life. And rather than Brad being like,

and Brad's dad has been, okay, is there anything going on here with all your friends dying that we should know about anything? And for some reason, none of these college kids, when they're talked about policemen, even tries to tell the story of what's going on. And you'd expect in a movie like this, they'd be like, it's a demon. And they'd be like, sure, sure it is. We'll get to the bottom of this. But they don't even try. And they never say like, I can't tell him. He'll think I'm crazy. They just don't bother. And it never say like, I can't tell them, he'll think I'm crazy.

They just don't bother. And it's one of these things where I'm like, is this gonna be really about the generation gap? And how hard it is for young people to communicate with their elders, dance to work. Let's open a symposium here, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, I do like how our teens are better crime solvers than the police.

I think that's kind of a harsh indictment of the police system that we have, right? Yeah. I mean, to be fair, they're not cooperating with the police force, which would give them needed information like the reason why this is all happening. But the police do seem to mostly.

Maybe they're trying to save the adults in their lives from being trapped in their own true-through-dayer game. Oh, that's okay. As you're an adult, those truths get harder. I mean, I from one of the black movies. And so do the dares. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I get dared multiple times a day

to wipe human shit off of a person's butt, multiple times a day. And that's, Daniel is like, I dare you to do it. You're like, you're fucking nasty. She's like, hell yeah, I am just what that butt. I dare you. She's like, truth or dare.

Okay, dare. Clean that baby's diaper. Oh man, I feel forward again. But Daniel, you were gonna say something about babies and diapers. It wasn't that important. Oh, another, another role, like, wait, another roleplay game. Oh, wait, you like asked me what I was gonna say. I know, but then I remember guys never play Dungeons and diapers.

That's also not a good role playing game. It's very different, very different. And if you're into it, that's totally cool. I'm not going to judge you, but I am not into Dungeons and diapers. Dan, you were going to say, hey guys, I just talked about, uh, let me put my sunglasses on. Yeah, go on. Shitty game. Okay.

Yeah. Oh! Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. CSI flop house. Dan, you were gonna say? No, all I meant to say was like, I for one, I'm glad that there was not a scene where they tried to convince the police that there was a demon involved. Just because it's gonna be another one of those scenes where like, yeah'm glad that there was not a scene where they tried to convince the police that there was a demon involved.

Just because it's gonna be another one of those scenes were like, yeah sure, there's a demon involved. We suspect you all the more now because you're making these crazy claims. Yeah, that's true. But instead we get scenes where this one cop who never seems to leave his office calls Olivia in and is like, seems like a lot of people are dying.

Can you tell me why? No, I don't know. Okay, well let me give you a piece of information then. This is the guy who seems to have caused it all. Does that jog your memory? No, it doesn't. Okay, well I'm gonna turn, I'm gonna go get you a glass of water

while you take a picture of all this confidential police paperwork. Doodoo, doodoo, doodoo, doodoo, are you done taking the picture? No, okay, I'll keep my back turned. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da the crime on him and he's like, a demon did it. Is he? No, I'm making that all up. Okay. I wonder how often IRL, we'll have to, if you're a police officer, just right into the

show and tell us how often suspects blame it on like a demon, a truth or dare game, or actually don't because that'll make me sad. Well, there's a, the guy that the show mind hunters is based off of, and who was an expert consultant on Silence the Lams, I read all his books when I was a teenager. And he talks about talking to David Berkowitz, the son of Sam Killer, and had David Berkowitz was like, oh yeah, Demon and my dog told me to do it.

And he was like, bullshit, don't give me that. And that David Berkowitz was like, oh, you got me. That was one case where a guy said, oh, demon told me to do it. And it wasn't really the case. They were like, you're just trying to make us think you're crazy. You're right, I'm not crazy. I get sexual pleasure from murdering people.

Yeah, you're not crazy. What? Are you 100% sure there wasn't a demon in that dog? I mean, we can never be totally sure. Every demon has a dog, especially delicious devil dogs. Yeah, do you think devil dogs try to re-brand themselves after that? Well, they're trying to figure out if they should get in touch with him as an endorser or just change the name.

Oh, man, we can just cut this out and use this as our promo so people think we're like a true crime podcast that deals with the death of real people kind of lightly. Isn't that fun, guys? Don't we love that? Yeah, I love trivialize real horror that happens to people in tragic ways. Hey, guys, that was a real hot take on true crime. We just did. It means we don't have time for the skit.

I was going to act out about the guy who was selling devil dogs door to door, who was like, things had never been better. I can finally get out of debt, afford that new car, really show my family the life that they deserve. And then he turns on the TV and it goes, son of Sam Killer says a devil dog told him to kill these people and just goes, oh no. And pick someone to go, honey, I got some bad news. Oh, that's the thing.

It's like it just cuts to him like in a hobo outfit riding the rails. Like that really happened fast. Yeah, when he's watching the TV, he looks over in the corner and there's just stacks and stacks of devil dog boxes. And he's got to eat them all now. So they don't go to waste.

He's riding the rails and he's like, I was the king of the hostess snack cakes. Yeah, yeah, we heard it, we heard it. So anyway, back to the movie. Brad, the devil tells him, take your dad's gun and make him beg for his life. And he takes his dad's gun and his dad just does not get it. His dad's like, Brad, whatever's going on, I'll help you.

I love you, you're my son. He's like, get down and beg for your life. Trust me, just do it. You gotta do it. I'll explain it later. And the dad's like, no, come on, let's talk this out. Let's hug it out. He just won't play along and he can't get it done.

So what happens? Another cop shoots Brad in the back. Oh. And Brad's dad is, that is textbook way to keep a subject, a suspect talking. So you think it was all, it was all planned. He's like, I had backup coming the whole time. So he was stalling his son to get this with the other guy to get into position.

At the police station, now it's Olivia's turn. She chooses Dare and she gets Dare to tell Markey her deepest secret that she could never tell Markey. And she tells Markey. So is that kind of a truth? Yeah, it is a truth. It's the game's way trying to get truth out. Like we had previously learned that Olivia

doesn't want to choose truth because she has a truth that she doesn't want to tell Marke. Yeah, it would destroy Marke. And she gets to tell the truth. It's a weird loophole here. And she's like, yeah, got me, Calex. Oh, boy. So she tells him, she tells Marke, tells her,

the night your dad killed himself, I was there, and I went over there and he got drunk and he tried to have sex with me and I said no. And he wouldn't stop, so I left, and that's why he, and I said you should die and he killed himself. So it's like a very messy situation. It's not really that funny and Markey is understandable or distraught.

So. This is the point of me where I, not that I thought it was funny. I texted you guys and I was like, this movie is very cruel to its characters. Oh, yeah very like I'm being like Malistic and it's designed where like people can't escape any of this shit like it's just There's just mean stuff that happens in it that for a light Teen horror movie seems weird to me. It's a movie that thinks that it's funny games every now and then.

When you're like, I want to see people get like their fingers cut off and stuff like that. I don't want to see them having to recognize that what crime they're dead committed in the final moments before he committed suicide. This is too much blow him house. Yeah, and I mean, not to play a Monday morning movie maker again, the four amps, but I mean, once again, not to play Monday Morning Movie Maker again, the 4M's, but I mean, if you're making, once again, a novelty horror movie, people are coming in there to, it should be fun and it should be like gross and maybe a little scary, but it's not, it shouldn't be serious. It's not like people are like, oh, this is a serious examination of the way truths and

dares affect us. Like you should make the dare sequences super wacky and crazy and bloody and then you should make the truth like make sure everybody has like really bitchy backstories So that when the truths come out it just heightens everything else and it shouldn't heighten them in a weird way like this We're like you feel you shouldn't feel bad that I don't know You shouldn't feel bad that the character that this is all happening to the characters. You should take some kind of pleasure that bad people have bad things happening to them. He'll be a ton, the ton should be closer to another

bloomhouse film, Happy Death Day, which I enjoyed very much, which was another very gimmicky movie, but it was just fun. It was like a silly horror movie. Now, not to play Calix's advocate here, but isn't there something to be said for a movie that presents itself as if it's going to be a wacky romp,

but then actually makes the audience question why they would go to see such a movie since it's not that fun to see people really being hurt emotionally. Isn't there some, I mean, they don't wear it here. I mean, you're describing funny games there. Yeah, you're basically just saying like, it, that would be if I bought a ticket to see Blue House's

Truth or Dare. And when I sat down, they just started playing funny games. I'm saying, then there's a person standing at the front of the theater saying, uh, I think this is the movie you really want to see. And then they turn into, uh, I don't know a bunch of critters and roll out of the theater. Wow. That's a very elaborate way to get out of a movie theater. I'm just saying, they don't do it well here, but there's something to really shocking an audience that way that would have been very memorable and very affecting.

And I guess you're right, that's basically funny games, but still, okay. It's much like a- But you also should make it, you should also make it shocking. Like there's no, there's other than this horrible reveal about a father's suicide, there's nothing else that's really shocking in that movie. Yeah, which is unearned and crass. I guess what I'm saying is, in a way I'm kind of defending

mother, I guess, which was presented as if it was a creepy house and some strangers come in and cause trouble movie, but an actuality was something much more challenging and strange that made people really uncomfortable to the point that they got mad at it. But that's not, you're right, that's not what this movie is attempting to do. It's attempting to be a sleepover horror movie

and instead they're throwing in like really rough things that in a tasteless way, you know, that are unearned. Okay, so that's fair. You know what? I retract my case. You guys win. I accept the charges. Uh, truth or dare, please. Take it to movie jail. Okay, so Olivia discovers who the guy was, who caused all this. It was Jacelle's friend, Sam, AKA Carter, the creepy guy who got them. They go to get Markey, Markey's just about to shoot herself. Oh no, and Olivia talks her out of it

because they love each other. They're best friends, as has been seen so many times throughout the movie. They're devoted to each other and they really enjoy spending time together. They go to Sam's apartment where he has sequestered himself mainly by just covering the windows with tin foil. I guess in case the sun tells him to truth or dare or the man in the moon start talking to him.

If you see some cloud that looks like an entirely face, yeah, Mac tonight is like, hey, everybody have some burgers for dinner, truth or dare. I dare you to eat a McDonald's hamburger. And he's like, no, no, it's made of worms. And they're like, please, worms would bake to be too expensive. We get cheaper stuff to make our burgers out of. Yeah, this is one of the places where I'm like, I'm clear about the rules. Because I'm like, really, can you really avoid getting dared by sequesting yourself like this? Because like before people's truth or dare would get like burned into their arms, the worst truth or dare.

The worst is to be on walls. Just to be affected. Yeah, maybe when that happened, if that happened to him, he'd be like, hell yeah. I've been needed to get this ink done. It's also this led me to one of those things. Took a quick Instagram of it. It's one of those things.

Shag inktober. This is a demon from Mexico. I mean, the demons are from hell. They're not from Mexico, but it's one of these things where I always wonder if demons just speak every language automatically, because what if it was like, truth or dare to someone who didn't speak English and they're like, no say, okay?

No say, truth or dare? No, I don't know, no, no, no, no. And they, The only it requires you to understand he's shrugging. Okay, yeah. So what is, what does the demon do in that scenario? Does he give up or does the demon go get Rosetta stone and learn the language that needs to speak? Like what? I'm glad that this all powerful demon is limited in that specific capacity. I'm just wondering, it seems unrealistic to me that this demon suddenly speaks every single language. Like, what about Basque? Nobody speaks Bask. What about Magyar?

It's a very difficult language. Yeah, what if a person only was raised in like a weird like dog tooth scenario? Yeah, exactly so. And only reads wingdings. What a cruel trick to play on a child to teach them wingdings. Like it was the alphabet.

Oh, now how do you pronounce wingdings? Oh,, yeah. Okay. I mean, to be honest, and the sounds that are attributed to letters are arbitrary, you know, all right, sure. We invented that. It's not like an L naturally makes that sounds like somebody made that decision. You mean they're not all onomatopoe? But even an automata peas may have letters that are sound all boy, if never mind. Okay, so they go to the go to his department and they beat him up until he and and put it taken at gunpoint to the church. They make him repeat the magic spell and the church starts shaking. It's like a love shack when they're

dancing in it like and it just the whole play starts shaking. So Lucas gets dared to kill either Olivia or Markey and he won't do it. So he gets possessed and then stab Sam as Sam is saying the spells and then himself Sam didn't finish cutting his own tongue out. There's a more Olivia's like, okay, Sam. This is the hard part. I need you to cut your own tongue out and put it in this jar and he's like, what? And she's like, do it. And it takes two or three back and forth. And he's fine. I like, I can't believe I'm doing this and takes a knife and starts cutting it as tongue.

And it's the fact that he takes the moment to say, I can't believe I'm doing this. Yeah, he's like, long time reader, first time better. It's what people say when it's like, I need you to go out there, the rock star who's supposed to be here tonight, they're not here. I need you to put on their costume and makeup and put on a show for these people. I can't believe I'm doing this, but okay, like for that, but instead he's cutting out.

Sean Claw Van Damned. The only way you can stop these terrorists is by playing Golly in this hockey match. This is a. I can't do this. This is another part where I'm like, I'm not really clear on the rules of this game. Because like the Dean, you say that the that the demon is adhering to the rules, but apparently just because the demon has possessed Lucas, that means that he can take a little moment to kill Sam before he kills himself. It seems unfair to me.

I mean, demons are do cheat. It's one of those things where like, they're like, those stories which, like Satan is the Lord of lies, you have to beat him by his own rules. And then Satan's like, Ah, you got me! But it's like like, Satan is the Lord of lies. You have to beat him by his own rules. And then Satan's like, ah, you got me. But it's like, if he's the Lord of lies, he can just do whatever.

Like, why does he care about not breaking rules? Like, who's gonna, who's the Satan police that's gonna put him in jail for this? Like, what are you gonna sue him? John, John Concentine. You're saying police. Yeah, the hellblazer. So it's too late.

Ah, Sam didn't finish it. It's Marquis turn and Olivia tells her pick dare, pick dare. And she's like, if you trust me, pick dare. The dare is to shoot Olivia. And Olivia's big plan is to move slightly so that she gets shot in the arm. Yeah, yeah, she, she matrixes out of the way. And now it's Olivia's turn and Olivia goes,

Calix, I truth or dare you. And the demon is like, oh, what? And he goes, you're here. I'm going to make you part of the game. And this is, this should be a very stupid loophole that she uses to stop him. But instead, Calix goes, no. She goes, oh, she goes, she goes, Calix goes, okay, truth.

And she goes, tell us how to survive the game, how to win it. And he goes, you can't. It's like, okay. I guess you'd be in truth, but like, what was the point of that whole scene? It was almost like somebody wrote a version of the script and they're like, this is a clever way to get out of this. I'll have them make Calex play truth or dare and tell them how to defeat him. But then another screenwriter came on and was like, nah, we're not doing that. But they left the scene in. So they just had Calex go like, you can't, everybody dies. And so there's only one way to do this. To save Markey, Olivia sends out a web video. We saw her earlier recording a web video about how important it is to do habitat for humanity stuff, because she was working for a different devil, Jimmy Carter.

And but this time, this time she sends out a wet video telling their story. And she says everyone who sees this video, truth or dare, it goes viral. We see people all over the world watching this video. And now they're all playing the game and ever and suddenly someone goes smiley and the game is spread. It's the exact same ending as the movie rings, the exact same ending. So guys, Stewart, tell me about you. You're the one who said that.

I can't wait for Truth or Double Dare, where it's set in like a post-apocalyptic wasteland, where civilization has been destroyed by Alex's Truth or Dare game. And there's small disparate groups of survivors that I don't know, live in houses that are all with all the windows taped up, so they can't see Mac tonight truth or dare. Or there's one city left that's run by like the president of Calix or something the United

States of Calix and they have a sacrifice every night of someone who's gonna play the game. Yeah, and they all and there's a crowd of people chanting truth or dare truth or dare that kind of stuff. So guys, this is a pretty smart ending, right? And Mark Summers will play that president of the house. Oh yeah, Mark Summers plays the, and he goes, physical challenge. Oh. So, and I've never seen, so Olivia has failed.

Earlier, she said, of course, I would sacrifice my friends to save everyone in Mexico, but now she's failed that, that challenge. And she sacrificed everyone on earth to save everyone in Mexico. But now she's failed that that challenge. And she sacrificed everyone on earth to save Markey of all people. Yeah. So the thought here is that it's just creating such a big pool of players that it's gonna take forever for the turn to come back around to her, I guess.

Yes, yeah, that's the thing. I do. Just to clarify the stupidness of this. I mean, frankly, it is the way to win that game in a way. Yes, yeah, that's the thing. Idea. Just to clarify the stupidness of this. And frankly, it is the way to win that game in a way. Yes. Because it's the much the way that health insurance works where you spread out the risk, the financial risk, over lots and lots of people,

so that when someone needs catastrophic help, the money is there. And except in this way, it's guaranteed that someone's gonna, like it's like every now and then, someone just lights somebody else on fire from a dare, because they're still playing two shoots in a dare. Somebody's somewhere's gonna get dare. And then, but think of all the good that'll come from, you know, society having to reveal

their truths. Yeah, that's fair. Right, guys. Uh, sure. Sure. Sure. Now, Dan, why's your face morphing into a weird smile place? Ah! Tooth or dare, stew. Oh, and the great, morphing into a weird smile place? Ah!

Tooth or dare, stew. Oh, and the great, so there's a song that plays over the credits that's wacky and talks about silk panties at a auntie's house or something. And then the end of the, the variant of the movie as right before the whole thing cuts to black, we hear Callix's voice one more time, say, Truth or Dare, demonic laughter. Ha ha. Now it says demonic laughter. I mean, it's set in the, in the closed captioning.

Oh, I see. Now, let me say this about this movie, guys. I will say this, except for the moments where the characters revealed and comfortable things to each other that were unearned, this movie is dull, but it goes down smooth. I didn't have to thank very much. And there, I was kind of surprised. That usually I'm like, oh, it's taking forever, but this movie, dull, but it goes down smooth. I didn't have to thank very much. And I was kind of surprised that usually I'm like,

oh, it's taking forever. But this movie, I was like, oh, this movie seems to go by pretty fast, not because it's good, but it just slips by. Well, we're in Final Judgment's territory. So let's just make it official. Is this totally terrifying? We're in the final.

Sorry, we're in Final Judgment's territory. We've got to walk softly, or else the final judgment will find us. Where we decide whether this movie was totally terrifying, totally snorifying, or frighteningly fun. Oh, you remember them? The etched into my brains, too. And so it sounds like you're saying, Elliot, that it was snorifying, but you did not snore. It was totally snorifying, but it wasn't snorifying to the point where I was like, ugh, instead it was just like, okay, this is happening.

All right, it was so like, it felt, aside from the fact that it, there was, I think, swearing sometimes, maybe the reason it wasn't. It felt like a TV movie, to be honest to me. Like, and so it had that kind of like, there's something about a TV movie where no matter how dumb it is, you're like, okay, whatever, like, you're just watching it, you know. And this is what that felt like to me. Yeah, I had the same experience as you. I think it was not a good movie, but it

it went down smooth as you say. Like it was stupid, but I what I felt like it moved along quickly. And I was, I hesitate to say entertained, but I was diverted moved along quickly and I was I hesitate to say entertained but I was diverted like I I didn't lose track of what was going on or want to fall asleep or any of that stuff that sometimes happens when I'm watching a truly bad film. Yeah I mean I'm with you guys it's snorifying with light on the snores it uh unlike Unlike the last movie we watched where every, let's say two minutes, I was checking to see how much time it's left in the movie. That's because it was presenting you with unholy visions. No man should ever play eyes

upon. Yeah, this one moved along in a pretty good clip. And despite the early death of my boy Ron, Ron, and the bet money I had to pay you guys that I thought he was going to be the one survivor. Other than that, yeah, it was fine. I listened to Reading Glasses because Breria and Mallory have great tips. My suggestion for book festivals is just go for one day. I listen for the author interviews. I was a huge goosebumps fan.

Oh yeah! Royal sign was totally my jam. I don't even read. I just like their chemistry together. Literally, on the bag it said, like, this book made me shit my pants, I'd be like, that's, I'm buying this bug. Like, I think the problem with blurbs a lot of times. I like that we both want to crap our shelves over bugs.

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Uh, okay, that's cool. But okay, okay, Archie, Sergeant Archie, the police cat. Not you don't have to touch me. I'll go on my own. But it's not touching me. Ow, ow. Come on, Stuart. keep it me oven. Keep me oven along. But we also thank you for this upper-cruiter. We also are sponsored in part by Squarespace. Squarespace. It's the web design service that allows you to turn your cool idea into a new website

to showcase your work, or perhaps announce an upcoming event or special project, or use its powerful e-commerce functionality to sell anything online. Hey, Dan, that reminds me. So e-commerce functionality, I had an idea for a website that I came up with over the talk on the show. I was talking about a couple of different role-playing games, and they reminded me that I have a business I've been thinking about and so I wanted to start a site called www.Dungeonis and diapers.com and we sell diapers for crabs. Let's just be honest. If you have a pet crab and I know I do,

crabs poop everywhere. Very hard to potty train them. They can't use a toilet because they'll fall in and drown. Crab's hate water. Yeah, every time I try to teach my crab the difference between just pooping all over the place or pooping in a toilet, it just looks at me with that terrifying set of eyes in my mouth. Yeah, but those beauty of the lies in that mouth that shouldn't exist, it looks so weird. Yeah, a blank stare that says, if I was small enough, it would just devour me. Yeah, and so crabs already have diapers. They're called shells, but those diapers protect their body.

It's time for a diaper that protects your carpet from the poop that comes out of a crab. So this would be a crab sized and shaped diaper, and we have both disposable and reusable. And they are, you know, they'd be available on DungeonousandDipers.com. They don't aren't just for Dungeonist crabs, Alaskan King, Alt Fiddler, Alt Hermit, all those kinds you can get diapers for. The Hermit crab already has a shell on its back, so it kind of poops into that.

You just need to take it out, clean the poop out every now and then. It's not as much of a worry, but you can still get a diaper. They look adorable. There's a lot of different designs, and I was wondering if Squarespace would be able to help me with that site

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Now, Elliot, are you nervous about the competition you're going to be having with crab, crab, caps, the place where you put caps on all the crab, crab? Yeah, that's, I mean, we're hoping that we can maybe coexist in the same ecosystem, much the same way that many different types of crab will share a, share an ocean, you know. But that's always a question, that's always a thing. I mean, I think what sets us apart, and I think you guys have guessed it already, our diapers have six holes for all the legs. Yeah, that is good. As I mentioned, Andy Caps, Crab Caps, it has the powerful branding of Andy Caps.

We might know from a SOT Fies. Well, we've been trying to get a Brenda Star endorsement to make it Brenda Star's Crab diapers, but it's been difficult. It's been very difficult. The Brenda Star people people, people assume star is starfish, you know, like, exactly. It's not a crap. I'm sorry, guys.

For that, you have to go to, you got to go to star ponds who make tampons for, for sea stars. But anyway, Dan, I'm sorry. You were talking about Squarespace. Well, the one thing I wanted to say to end this, pretend death march of an advertisement is to go to Squarespace.com slash flop for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch,

use the offer code flop to save 10% off of your first purchase of a website or domain. So that's all we have in terms of sponsors this week. Oh, wait, but we've got a couple things that we should talk about that are sponsoring ourselves. All right. So we've got two live shows coming up. Oh, yeah, one in November. That's right.

It's old homes week as Dan and Stu returned to the place where they went from boys to men. That's right. Motown Philly. Nope. Just kidding. Richmond, Indiana, where we're going to be at Irland College Saturday, November 3rd. It's part of Motown Philly. Nope, just kidding. Richmond, Indiana, where we're gonna be at Irlam College, Saturday, November 3rd. It's part of their artist lecture series.

We're just gonna be, but we're not lecturing. We're just doing a show. And we're gonna talk about Jurassic World's Fallen Kingdom. And it's gonna be super fun. We're not gonna be the only dinosaurs. Oh. Oh. And now you guys are gonna show up wearing your like straw boaters, raccoon

coats, your little penance that say, Erlem, all that stuff. That's right. I mean, I think our friend Stefan dresses like that normal. Yeah, that's true. That's a joke for no one who listens to the show. So if you live in the Indiana area, come on by and see us. That's Saturday, November 3rd, but then in January, oh boy, we're going to be at University of Wisconsin, Madison. Let's go Badgers and see us, January 26th, 2019. We don't know what movie we're going to do yet. We haven't decided.

It's far enough in advance. So let's just say it's going to be really funny. And everybody should come see us, right guys? Yeah, yeah. Turn off for that. And I got one more thing to mention just a personal thing. Okay. It's October guys and you know what people love in October?

Children's books. Hey, so on October 30th, why don't you go down to your local independent bookstore and pick up horse meets dog by me, Ellie Caelin and illustrated by Tim Miller. It's the story of a horse and a dog and they meet and they do not agree on something. It's pretty funny and I'm going to be doing a bunch of live appearances at schools in early November. I would advertise them, but it would be weird for flop house fans to just suddenly show up at schools. But I'm going to see if I have any store appearances. And maybe I'll mention them next time on the flop house. Good night, everybody. Okay. Bye. Okay, well, I guess the show is over. I mean, just

as Ellie left, we can still talk, Dan, what's new with you? Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, I don't know. I'm just trying to come up with material, you know, I'm just trying to come up with like stuff. Yeah, stuff to talk about. Yeah. So what do we do next on the show, Dan? Traditionally, this is the point in the show where we answer a few letters from listeners, folks who have taken their sweet time to write it. And I don't say taking their sweet time,

and since they took a long time, it's really sad to say. Their time is sweet. Oh, OK. It's limited. It's limited on this earth. So each moment is sweet and they have wasted some of it talking to us. Yeah. So anyway, that clarification having been made. Oh, nice save, nice save. It's like, I don't want it to sound like they are lazy so instead I'll remind them that they're dying. Yeah, this first letter is from Amy last name with held.

Adam's. Winehouse. Who writes? That is spooky. So as a child, my favorite movie was Napoleon, a charming little number about a puppy walking through the Australian Outback and meeting a cast of various wild animals. It was super charming and everything child me loved. The problem is, anytime I brought it up by name, people assumed I met Napoleon Dynamite, a movie that frankly I've never really understood the appeal of.

My question is this, not that many animals. Are there any movies you like, but have difficulty expressing fondness for, because they're overshadowed in some way by a better known movie? That's Amy last name withheld. I will say this, Amy, I thought you meant Napoleon by Abel Gondz, the silent epic about the life of Napoleon. I was like, this kid has some like, it's pretty high-grout taste. It's like I'm impressed.

Mm-hmm. And you were like, that movie has so many animals. Yeah, it's tons of animals. I feel like that's a dangerous thing to get a kid excited about is wandering the Australian Outback meeting animals, a land known for having deadly critters. Yeah, not critters from outer space. No, no, no, just really animals.

No, you're not crites. Yeah, crites. Now, my brother, I remember him coming home from school one day. This is my brother who's three and a half years younger than me. And they had watched some of walk about in a class, which is also about wandering the most. And I was like, and he was describing this movie to me. And I was like, this sounds crazy. Did you make this up?

He's like, this guy takes his kids out to the desert. And then he tries to kill them. And then he kills himself. And this other kid is walking around with them and they didn't have any clothes on and I was like there's no way they showed you this and the years later I saw walk about I was like why was he watching this at school this is crazy. They were showing like there's like an extended new swimming scene and walk about it. They watched the whole fucking thing featuring the mother superior from called the midwife of

all people. Right. But yeah, I like I think of our more is pretending to know what you guys are talking about. I like the thing of remores of the love interest from American welfare London, but yes. Is that the same person? Did me I got her? Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize that was her in American welfare London. Yeah. We all learned something today.

I hope I asked your question. Answering Amy's question. I mean, have you guys had that situation? This isn't exactly the same, but like anytime I am telling somebody about how much I like the British comedy show, the League of Gentlemen, people are like, oh, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and I'm like, no, not the movie, although the comic book's pretty good. Yeah, I don't think I've actually had this experience in conversation, but I always do get annoyed when a movie has the same title as a previous movie

that I've liked just anticipating the possible annoyance of it. Like when that will fail. I remember that when, when, soccer comedy, when, when crash came out, you were like, this is what he's not supposed to be about racism, it's supposed to be about people orgasming during car crashes.

How dare they? That's right. Yeah, yeah. Now, I was gonna say, you know, there's that Noah Bombak movie kicking and screaming comedy about college students, like, kind of not knowing what they're going to do. I feel like comedy is being too nice to them. I find them movie very funny, actually, but then there's a will-fair-all family quote-unquote

comedy where I will not use the word comedy for that movie about being a soccer coach. And it's also called kicking and screaming. One of them has an ampersand, one of them does not. But you think you can't make that clarification in the course of talking. You think kicking ampersand was a really, you sound like a jerk, sorry, it's George. Yeah.

You think Ladybugs with a Ronnie Dangerville and Jonathan Brandis was originally called kicking and screaming? I have to assume that eliminates the entire cross-dressing portion of the story. Yeah, what about she's the man staring Amanda Bonds? Was that originally called Kicking and Screaming? What about first kid? Was that first-minute question screaming?

Dan was first kid originally called Kicking and Screaming? Yes. I mean, to be fair, the karate kid could have been called kicking and screaming. He kicks and he screams. Guys, is every movie called kicking and screaming? I think they might be, except side kicks, ironically, with Chuck Norris and John the Brandis.

Back to Jonathan Brandis again. All right. So the next letter is from Taylor last night withheld. Swift. Swift. Swift. Who has? letter is from Taylor last night withheld swift right split. Who has that the high times parody of Taylor Swift. I think I stole that joke from from the good place actually. So I guess I'll give them 10 cents.

So this Taylor has four questions. They're all sort of related. Number one, why don't you talk about Terry Garm more often? Number two, what are your picks for Terry Gar's best and worst movies? Number three, who was the best recurring guest on Letterman in the 80s? That's a rhetorical question, it was Terry Gar. Number four, this dance hole mildly depressed, exasperated manager, Stick, really just a brilliant long form homage

to Dave Full, these performances, Dave Nelson, and News Radio. Thanks for all the laughs, Taylor. Okay, we got a lot of meat in that sandwich. So I guess Terry Gar is, I think officially retired. So that's one of the reasons I think we don't talk about her that much. She's great, I love her.

She's wonderful. Did somebody pull up her complete filmography so we can rate them from best to second best? I've decided that her I don't mean to say that as in she's only been in two movies I'm just saying they're all probably pretty good. I've decided her worst performance is in a low-hawks Scooby-Doo Oh, okay, okay, Dan truth or dare. Did you really see a low-hawks Scooby-Doo? No, I've never seen a low low-hust Scooby-Doo? No, I've never seen a low-hust Scooby-Doo. Oh, the truth comes out.

This game is good. Everything I've seen Terry Garin, she's been delightful. So I had to look on the IMDB for something that I would assume was not so. I think he watched. I think the movie with Terry Gar that I have seen the most is Mr. Mom.

Okay. A movie that for whatever reason is very important to me. That is a movie that- Why is a father? It was a father yourself, Stuart. Yeah, as a real life Mr. Mom. That's one of those movies that- It does make me, it does make me, the washing machines as a potential foe.

That's why my clothes are always dirty. For her best movie, as a potential foe. That's why my clothes are always dirty. For her best movie, she's not the star of it, but if you're just looking at movies, I think her best movie has probably got to be the conversation, which and she doesn't want with a supporting part in that. And her worst performance is probably as a gar or a gariol, which is kind of a thin, snouted crocodileian native to like the subcontinent of India. And whenever I see the metha zoo, they're just laying about doing a lot of nothing

and they look super cool so they should be doing fun stuff. Yeah, they have those like long needle night like snouts, right? Exactly, yeah. Perfect for digging into the body of a dead. I don't know, like Elk. Yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, like a reindeer maybe, you know, yeah, yeah, maybe a buffalo.

I can't let this go by without mentioning, of course, she was great in young Frankenstein. I don't know if I've seen that movie. Not familiar. I'm fucking with it. I don't let this go by without mentioning, of course she was great in young Frankenstein. I don't know if I've seen that movie. Really? I'm familiar. I'm fucking with it. I don't know. No, she's not in Young Ninestein.

What are you talking about? It's a guy who's serious movie. Everyone's also really in. Fuck off, guys. And also, I don't know, we'll mention, although that was an easy way to get truth out of me, Dan, without even asking me truth or dare. She is a relatively small part in After Hours, which is also very good.

I thought you were going to mention After Hours. I also like that movie a lot. And I was like, hmm, what's the most stop making sense of all the movies that Terry Garmaid After Hours? Oh, I love After Hours. It's like, it captures something about 1980s. The feel, I mean, I wasn't in New York, but like, I just feel like I know it based on that movie. It's just, the feel is so great. There's just one thing I don't like in that movie. It's when he's on his way to the date,

and he takes out the $120 bill in his pocket and decides to put it on the arm rest of the door inside the cab and then it flies out the window, and he's like, oh no, my money. And it's like, why would you do that, dude? Take it out of your pocket, count it, put it back in your pocket. Like, what are you doing?

Come on. I actually have never seen after hours. So maybe I'll watch it. Oh, I think you'll like it a lot. It's a fun movie. And as to whether my persona is a brilliant tribute to Dave from Newter Radio. Yeah, truth or dare.

Let's just say, sure. Oh, cool. Can you say that, truth or dare. Let's just say sure. Oh, okay, cool. Yes. Can you say that in truth or dare? Just sure. What if it's truth or dare? And the answer is why not? Yeah, sure.

Why not? Now, this is a tribute to John Loveitz as the liar, right? Yeah. This next is from Carrie or Kari. Yeah. This next is from Carrie or Carrie. I'm sorry for not knowing exactly which one it is. But she writes and this is late too. By the time we give her this information, this advice, it's not gonna be worth worth anything to her unfortunately. Just move along with this question. Great. Yeah. That's the flop house promise. It's like, can you wish a birthday for my friend? Their birthday was in July. It's February of the next year.

So, Kerry or Kari writes, I just found out that I'm going to be directing my first feature film this summer. Well, cool. Absolutely bonkers and I'm super excited. It's an indie production with a small cast, and we have a pretty solid above-the-line crude lined up. My main concern is this. It's a comedy. While I'm a huge, long-time fan of comedies of all sorts, and I've been wanting to get involved in it

for as long as I can remember, I've never actually worked on any sort of legitimate comedy projects. Do you have any advice for someone working on their first comedy, such as what common mistakes can be avoided, how to dodge negative stereotypes or any good reading material to study? Thanks for your help and the hours of entertainment. Carry a K.A.

Carrey. Yeah, you guys are both experienced directors of comedy. Oh, yeah, working feature films all the time. But seriously, you guys are actual comedians. So what's your advice? Yeah, I figured Elliott would have like some strong feelings about this. So that's the main reason I bought this Okay, I've got a couple I've got a couple piece of advice I would give take them with a grain of salt because you need salt in your diet A certain amount too much is not good for you. Obviously blood pressure and all that you need a in your diet a certain amount. Too much is not good for you, obviously, blood pressure and all that. You need a little bit of salt.

That's why elephants were always going into caves and just lick and salt blocks. You need it in your body. So guys, that's my advice, salt. So, sorry. Sorry, Angelina Jolie. I would say a few things. One is look at a comedy that you like

and see how they do things and kind of take it apart. Look at it, see in my scene, look at it moment by moment and just kind of analyze and study it the way you would analyze anything that you're trying to figure out. Like as if you're taking a clock apart, I do this a lot with stuff where I'll look at something and I will literally dissect it minute by minute to see how they're using their time and also moment by moment to see how scenes are built so I can get a better idea of how to do it. That being said, don't be us as slaves to any kind of like rules and things.

You want to keep things loose and funny. If something doesn't seem funny to you when you're making it, it's probably not that funny. The thing you hear a lot about the movie 1941 is people being like, we had all these hilarious people working on it. No one really thought it was that funny while they were making it, but they figured it would all cut together funny in the studio. In the afterwards, it didn't. So if you don't find it funny, then maybe figure out how you want to find it funny

and keep things loose so that you can keep that kind of comic energy, but not so loose that you end up with a bunch of Judd Apatow scenes where it's just people rambling on about whatever, and it doesn't make sense from scene to scene as a movie. There was a story that was in an interview I read, where Seth Rogen and Judd Apatow were talking about knocked up, and Seth Rogen was saying how... Is this the one where Seth Rogen was talking about

explaining internet pornography to Tom Cruise? No, that's a different story. That's a good story, too. too, is that Jonah Hill was like, so in this scene where I'm your best friend and you tell me that you just impregnated a woman, what's my feeling about this? How do I react to it? He's like, let's try it both ways.

Let's try it that you like it. Let's try it. Don't let's just be loose with it. And it's like at that point, you don't really have a character or a scene. It seems to me, I could be wrong. It was a super successful movie. People love it. But like, if you don't know how a character or a scene. It seems to me. I could be wrong It was a super successful movie people love it But like if you don't know how the kept main character's best friend is gonna react to this life-changing news

then you might not have a firm grasp on what's going on in your movie and The last thing I'm gonna say is if you have any very elaborate big Moments that require a lot of production. They will probably be the least funny part of your movie. I call this the Caddy Shack Rule. Now, do I love Caddy Shack? No. To be honest, it just doesn't really do it for me. But there are parts that are fun. I find Caddy Shack to be the story of a bunch of assholes who just asshole around being jerks, and it doesn't really do it for me. But the funniest parts of Caddy Shack are very clearly the parts that Bill Murray made up on the spot. And the least funny part of Caddyshack is the big boat scene where the boats are all crashing

into each other, which I have to assume was the hardest scene to shoot the production. Probably cost the most amount of money, and if you cut that scene out of the movie, it makes it a better movie. So if there's a big, big, big thing that involves a lot of money and work and the timing being just right, just take a look and see, is this really going to be that funny when it's put together if we do it right? Because we might be able to save ourselves a lot of trouble, and we'll just put in a scene that's a lot funnier of characters interacting with each other. Because what's funnier than characters interacting with each other? Nothing. And they know that at USA, what characters are welcome and at TBS, very funny,

but not at TNT where they only know drama. That was a pretty concise answer. Yeah. Not at all. Sorry, guys. Do you have anything you wanted to add, Dan? I mean, this is kind of going off of what you were saying. Like, I feel like every comedy these days

has one or two big set piece moments. And I think that that's because that's the way that comedies are sold these days, like studios, what that sort of thing. I mean, even old comedies have big set piece moments. Like there's the giant pie fight or the big car chase or going back. Yeah.

And I think you're right that that's the scene that you sell, like this is going to be in the trailer or something like that. And it never really works. Yeah, I mean, I would say, I would not advise you not to include that just because I think that it's expected, but I will say work to make the entire movie funny, not just like these set-piece don't coast on the idea of set-pieces. The ideal comedies for me are things like, if you look at the things that Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright wrote together, they have all these things that pay off in the second half,

but they're built on jokes that work as jokes in the first half. Like you see these things in the first half and you don't think like, oh, that's just something that's going to pay off later. You think that's funny. And then you're secondarily delighted, like doubly delighted when it comes up again and it's a funny conclusion to that joke. As some of this advice is like storytelling advice and more on the writing side and less directing, but yeah, it's like, I think the, I guess, not making people tense is a big part of it. It's hard to get funny stuff out of people when they're super tense unless the joke

is that they're tense, I guess. Like, I make Dan tense all the time because I think it's very funny. But if I was making a movie with him, I'd be like, hey, Dan, what's wrong? Let's ease up, let's relax. Yeah, I, for the directing side of stuff, I mean, I'm not a director,

but I do feel like a lot of comedies are just sort of directed flat. You know, I mean, like, there's not much thought into how the direction can enhance the comedy, like where camera placement and editing can juice up things. A lot of the comedies seem to be like, let's just point cameras at funny people and then it will be fine. And so it's not a specific note, but as far as anyone can think, like, how can I use the elements of storytelling through direction to add to the humor that's always appreciated?

And also, this is like, this is something you've probably already heard, which is like old stuff, but that people have said that comedy exists in this is kind of against what Dan was just saying, but that comedy, but comedy does exist in kind of longer takes and You know shots where you can see things, you know that like you could kill a joke by cutting it up too much There's always like I'm not advocating for editing I'm just advocating advocating like make sure that the choices you make are as a director are like Yeah, comic choices rather than just like I don't know shooting it like any other damn thing Well not being not being afraid to make comic choices for fear of wrecking the comedy

But the that's like nothing there's if someone falls down on camera It can be very funny, and there's nothing funnier. There's nothing no worse version of that than when there's a lot of cuts. The least funny thing you can do in a movie is to cut in a close-up of someone going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Like, there's a lot, I think that there's like an every frame of painting that web series thing on this about using direction for comedy and like a lot of that is talking about slapstick.

And about how like slapstick is best shot like it's a dance sequence, you know, just like mount the camera like far enough to waste so you can see the action and sort of let it, let it go loose rather than... Lots of auto tuning. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, everyone should bring laser gloves. I don't know how funny this is, so we should just ask, you know, like say that we hope the best for this project that already happened. We hope it went well. It already happened. Yeah, we hope it went well. Ryan and I tell us what it is. I'd be curious to know.

And maybe we'll talk about it on a future episode of The Flopass, right Dan? I hope not. I hope not. That would be very... That would be sad. I didn't need to the story. Now that we're done acting like we know what we're doing, what do we do next Dan? We're done telling people what to do. We're done saying to people, here, do this thing because we think it's're doing. What do we do next, Dan? We're done telling people what to do. We're done saying to people, here, do this thing,

because we think it's the right thing to do. We're done recommending things to people. So what do we do next on the show, Dan? We recommend things to people. Oh, no, boy, go. Specifically movies that we've seen that we think people should watch, probably instead of the one that we watched. I'm looking at my, just someone I want to go, I'm looking at my

list of movies I've seen because I can't think of one right now. Cool, yeah. Well, I have one cute Stewart, do you want to go first or should I? Oh, care man. Okay, well, I'll just say that I finally got around to watching the duelists, Ridley Scott's first movie with Keith Caridine and Harvey Kytel, Gazuntite, which is the story of two officers in Napoleon's army who become somewhat obsessed with dueling each other and it starts off as a duel over a stupid thing that one of them

calls the other on. And then over years and years, they are, their whole lives are kind of centered around these, the series of duels where they're each trying to kill each other for reasons that have become cloudier and cloudier as time goes on. And it's a really beautiful looking movie. It's really well done. I liked it a lot. And it was nice to see a movie that is in theory, it's a movie about sword fighting and dueling, but felt like it was about these two characters and their relationship and how

complicated that could be. And I really liked it a lot. So the duelists, if you haven't seen it, I recommend it. If you have seen it when I watch it again, if you're really Scott, good job. Yeah. I I recently saw a simple favor, which I liked a lot. So I'm going to I guess I'll I don't want to talk about it too much because I think talking about it kind of ruined some of the fun of the movie.

So I'd recommend going in as cold as you can. Anna Kendrick is great in it. Blake Lively is amazing. It's awesome. And it prominently features Blake Lively's husband's brand of gin. So that's cool. But the movie I'm going to recommend is, so you know how, you know how like we all have blind spots when it comes to classic movies like foundational films for various genres. You know, like I'm sure there's classic movies that you've never seen. I think we probably talked about this on episodes of the flop house. So I have to admit that I finally got around

to watching undisputed three redemption. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a prison where the worst prisoners around the world compete in a martial arts competition for big books. And it's really great. You don't need to see undisputed one or two, but those are also good. But Undisputed 3 is great because it takes the villain from the second movie and makes him the hero played by Scott Adkins, his character, Boyka. And Scott Adkins has an ability like for a guy who is basically, like, I guess, the modern Jean-Claude Van Damme.

He has an ability to play these, like, grumpy, brooding characters that, in no way, are, like, fun. But there's, like, a charm to a guy who is, like, just an asshole jerk who is also very good at kickboxing. And it also manages to work pretty well as a love story between his character, Boyka, and the American competitor, Turbo. It's a, they seem to share like a friendship that borders on love affair that never actually

is consummated or addressed in any way, but it really feels like it's there, you know? And it's kind of great. So yeah, I feel like at the end, boy, it's learned to love a little bit, as well as learn how to beat the shit out of a dude. So I mean, I guess he already knew that, but yeah, so on to speed three redemption.

I feel like I'm probably late to the game here, guys. But I'm not. Because it is, Shocktober, I'm gonna recommend a horror movie. It's sort of a limited recommendation, but I did enjoy it. It's called What Keeps You Alive? And it's streaming right now. It's about this married couple of women go to a cabin,

But this married couple of women go to a cabin out in the woods and stuff like that. Also, that movie is called Cabin in the Woods. Pacific. Dan, there weren't tarps involved. There are no sex tarps, Stewart. It's not that kind of movie. I don't want to talk about it because there's the trail and there's like, it's all about how unknowable your partner is. You know, how there's, you can't always be 100% sure

about anyone else and whether they might wish you harm or not. It's kind of like V where you can't, you never know if somebody actually is like a lizard person who eats rats or something. Exactly. Well, it's like a lizard person who eats rats or more. Exactly. Or it's like a movie version of Billy Joel's The Stranger.

Uh, yeah. And that's what inspired that book, right? Let's wrong say. Yeah. Yeah, Camu was like, it's true. We all wear a mask. Some is silk and some are leather. It's uh, one of these movies where like to some degree you have you get you lose sympathy for

the hero because they make some dumb choices in the movie and you're like come on. Wait, it's hard in horror movies sometimes. You're like that's you're just and are they like dumb choices for you? You know, drinking too much the night before a big project is going to make you feel bad. You're not going to be top of your game. Or is it like, like, don't open that door because you shouldn't look in the basement because children shouldn't play with dead things. Yeah. Children shouldn't play with dead things, certainly.

I was trying to think of another like weird title to a horror movie. I like the only thing I came up with was who slew anti-rew. That's a horror movie. Oh, I've seen that movie. Yeah. What's wrong with Helen? There's another one like that. It's not an imperative statement. No, that's true. But um, get out. It has anyone use that for a movie title. Yeah, there you go. Don't be alive. What keeps you alive is very stylish, so that speaks well to it. It's got a lot of beautiful shots. So that's kind of what it coasts along on a little bit. But if you're looking for a horror movie, you could do worse at streaming right now. You could do worse. Raves Dan McCoy. Well, the thing that I saw recently that I really loved is outside of our purview.

I went and saw my fair lady at Lincoln's sitter with Lauren Ambrose who will be in the role until the end of October. So if you live in the New York area and you want to really enjoy yourself, go ahead and see that. But, uh, see, Bill, it's a terrifying adventure. Yeah. Oh boy. It's a story of one woman being terrorized by her vocal teacher. Yep.

But anyway, that was, that was a delight. Go on, Fair Lady. That's why recommendation. Okay. So Dan Schachtel, recommendation, a stage production of My Fair Lady. I guess walk, run, don't walk to the airport to get to New York City to see My Fair Lady. And if you're listening to this after the run is ended,

you snoozed and you lose. You snossed and you lost, that's the way it works. That's the way the cookie crumbles. I'm EL Pillsbury. Good night everybody So what do we do now boy? Speaking of good night everybody. We should slide off Hey Yep, this is a this is a max fund production That's what I'm gonna say so listen some max fund podcast

That's actually gonna say there's a lot of great Max one podcasts out there. Listen to them, find the ones you like and subscribe to them and then maybe review them on iTunes, review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts, tweet about us, use the hashtag, flop house, all those things. Dan, what are you gonna say? Yeah, if you like movies and podcasts,

there's a ton of great movie related content on Max Fun, like Switchblade Sisters. Who's Shacha? Who's Shacha? What's Ben in John and I don't care what I was gonna plug was that Speaking of max fire is what it's called. Yeah, it's not a point Speaking of max, maybe you just want straight up comedy beef and Darien Network lots of great max one podcast out there Dan, you can say Speaking of max fun podcast if you like this one, Elliott and I

were on Jordan Jesse Go just recently. Why don't look that up. I think the episode is entitled, Fart Me to the Moon. Yeah. So you know what you're getting. Exactly. But people made a point to tell me how great

you got, how great that episode was and how great you were on it. I'm like, yeah, they're usually better when they have comedy guys. Oh, I get it. Okay. No, no, and then and then I just start drinking and I never stopped. It's true. Stuart has one of those beer hats on, but it's just two bottles of tequila. Anyway, seriously, I agreed with that. So we should move on. Thank you for explaining what. It's my extensive, it's my extensive improv training. It's not so much yes and as mm-hmm.

Oh, it's the Dan McCoy method. Anyway, we should sign off and say we are having a lovely shocktober. We look forward to another shocktober episode next time. But for now, I've been Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Ellie Kaelan, author of Horse Meat Stog, October 30th, by At Your Lugel Bookstore.

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