The Flop House - Ep. #272 - Pottersville

Episode Date: December 8, 2018

We talk about the inexplicably star-studded comedy, The Bigfoot Who Saved Christmas. Excuse us, "Pottersville." Meanwhile, Stuart brags about his back strength, Dan uncovers the world of Raising Cain ...conventions, and Elliott goes on his longest (most infuriating?) bit ever. Wikipedia synopsis for Pottersville Movies recommended in this episode: Anything Goes Suspiria Blindspotting LIVE SHOWS: The Flop House in Madison, WI on 1/26

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On this episode we discuss Potter'sville. Dan it's pronounced Hogwarts. Hey everyone, welcome to the Flap House, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey Dan, how you doing? Oh, alright. You can't get through a single intro. Hey guys, I'm Stuart Welley, I'm from the Flap House podcast. Hey guys, guess who I am, I'll give a single intro. Hey guys, I'm Stuart Wellington from the Flopass podcast. Okay. Hey guys, guess who I am.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'll give you two clues. Okay. And if we guess your true name, do we get to have power over you? You get power over me and I'll help you spin straw into gold. So here's two clues. One, I'm America's Rascal sweetheart. And two, my name is Elliot Kaelin. Can you guess it?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Hmm, I think you buried the lead. Did I use that turn of phrase correctly? It's close enough. Can you guess my identity? Roppelstilt skin. Okay, you got me. I didn't think you were gonna guess it that easily since it's such a goofy name, but yeah, Roppelstilt skin.
Starting point is 00:01:22 My family invented the stilt and also... Apparently, your family invented stilts that have skin over them. Yeah, and they go on your run. No, it's obviously, that's a better explanation for my name. Yeah, so here was the problem is that we invented coverings for stilts, still skin, we call it. But it was so easily wrinkled and rumpled
Starting point is 00:01:44 because of the fabric was made out of, that people called us rumple still skin. And it just stuck. And you know what, when you have a brand, all publicity is good publicity. So people are like, rumple still skin, they're still skins get very easily rumpled. And also, they try to steal babies by teaching women
Starting point is 00:01:59 how to spin straw into gold. And I'm like, hey, I'm not even gonna try to defend myself against those charges, because that's just gonna keep the rumor in the news cycle. But all publicity is good publicity. Hey, you don't like rumble still skin, but you're talking about me. So can I say you have some still skins warning? They do rumble a bit.
Starting point is 00:02:18 My stilts are pretty good on varnish, unmolested. They're fine as they are. What? I think Stuart might be America's rascal. Oh, man. Anyway, well, I am a thing that you can write around on if you're old or have trouble walking. No, we, we wouldn't write on you Stuart. Your backs, you know, your backs too weak for that. Very fragile. So that's the thing, guys, I've been waiting to give you guys a backup date. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:02:47 So I've been going to the gym a little bit, you know, chasing gains, pushing weights around. And you know what, my back has never felt better. That's great. Mm-hmm. So FYI, Stewart's back is feeling better. So I guess FYI to the, whoever the equivalent to Stewart's Bane is, if you're gonna break Stewart to the to the whoever the equivalent to Stuart's
Starting point is 00:03:05 Bane is if you're going to break Stuart's back, now's the time to do it. It's at its peak condition. I feel like I'm flying so high. I'm like, Icarus, if Icarus, uh, bragged about his back all the time before Bane snapped him in half. Oh, you know, that's exactly what happened. Icarus was like, strap those wings on. My back feels great. And he flew too close to the sun. What they mean is the son of Bane's father, Bane. And Bane just is like always talking about his back.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I'm gonna snap it and he did. That's why Bane broke Batman's back, right? Is because Batman was going on the news and stuff, breaking about how strong his back was. Well, the thing is, he's actually not called Batman, he's called Backman. Oh, yeah. Because he's always talking about his back. And he has a back as strong as 10 men's backs.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And so, because he was bitten by a radioactive back. And it gave him a lot, and he said, hmm, criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. And then a back fell through his window and said, I'll be a back. So he's always bragging about his back. And he wrote a book called Backman's Guide to Back Strength. And Bane was like, my back's way stronger than him.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'll show him, because it takes a lot of back strength to break someone else's back. But that was the thing. What Backman didn't tell anybody, and Bane found out by reading a bunch of books, is that Backman was originally dipped into the river sticks by his mother, but she had to hold on to his back the whole time. And that turned out that was the only part of him that wasn't immortal or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah, which he didn't realize. Now, the big mistake was that Bane at first got backman mixed up with Beckman, the man with all the powers of Beck, which, as you know, gives you amazing power over beats, and you can dance like James Brown, and you kind of the Sam Rockwell of music in a lot of ways. And you're also like a Scientologist. I mean, that's everyone's religion is their own choice. That's not a superpower,
Starting point is 00:04:56 unless you are, I guess some people's religion gives them superpowers like Donnie and Marie Osmond, but for first Bane went after Beckman, because Bane, he has a problem. He reads A's and E's as the same letter. Okay, so. Okay, I get really deep into this. Yeah, so what's that called a dip thong or whatever?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Where it's an A and an E right next to each other. And so he went after Beckman and Beckman was like, but my back is normal strength. And Bane was like, don't try to convince me now. to convince me now. I'm going to break your back too. Yeah. Well, that was America's dip thong, Elliot Kalin going off on a weird rant. I didn't even talk about it when he went after big man. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, there's the power to shave. Mm-hmm. I thought it was big pens, but uh,
Starting point is 00:05:42 and big lighter. Hands. hands and I'm glad that you extended this a little bit more. So, Dan, what are we doing with this podcast other than waste everybody's time? We talk, we watch bad movie and then we talk about it. And what are you this week? Well, we watched a movie that because it's the holiday season, I suggested a movie called Potter'sville. And we just went along with it. And I suggested a movie called Potter'sville. And we just went along with it. Vaglia holiday movies.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's kind of Christmassy. It's a movie that, it's like a snowball going down a hill. It picks up more Christmas as it rolls along. Until by the end, they're like, it's a Christmas miracle. And I was like, wait a minute. What was Christmassy about this movie up until this point? That it's winter, I don't understand. And also the soundtrack is ridiculously Christmassy.
Starting point is 00:06:26 That's true. They have a bunch of Christmas songs. Now, Dan, what brought this movie to your attention? Because I had never heard of it, despite it having an objectively amazing cast. Yeah. When they, when it first came out, there was a spade of articles about it. There were like, what is this movie, Potter'sville,? Why does it have all these famous people in it? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I also, I remember, I remember one of the actors in the film, Ron Pearlman, uh-huh. Going on social media being like mad that people are trash, trashing this movie. Uh-huh. Should be not trash at then, because he was a producer on it, too, Ron Pearlman.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, I think he was complaining. It was that complain of like, like, people are only making fun of it because it isn't some big budget superhero movie or some shit. And it's like, no, that's not why. No, there's valid reasons to make fun of it. Yeah, let's look at this cast.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's a deeply strange movie. Yeah, I go. It's a strange movie. This cast, you got Michael Shannon as the hero. You got Judy Greer. Yeah. Yeah. In a bit of stunt casting they cast Michael Shannon to play a non big foot. Michael Shannon is playing the kind of Jimmy Stewart role. This is very, it's not much like it's a wonderful life, but in tone, I think they wanted to be like that. And he's playing that Jimmy Stewart role when usually Michael Shannon plays the role of
Starting point is 00:07:45 someone who is a serial killer. And so at every moment, I was waiting for the end of violence moment when it was, or history of violence moment where it would be revealed that he was actually a hitman who was undercover or something. Yeah, there's something about Norm Korr, Michael Shannon, that makes it all the more terrifying intense. There's a moment late in the movie where he and Judy Greer exchange a kiss. And I have never felt more nervous for both people in my life.
Starting point is 00:08:14 You're afraid that he was going to bite her little. Quite possibly. And I love Michael Shannon. I think he is an amazing actor. He's fantastic. But there is an intensity about him that the idea that that could just exist in a small town shopkeeper is terrifying to me. Yeah, I forgot this. I forget who it is. I have a friend who like Has interacted with him before and she says that he's the sweetest man in the world
Starting point is 00:08:35 But that that intensity is always there. And then that's Delaney, right Delaney knows him Maybe could be yeah, I think I believe a former Former Daly Shorrider and co and co worker of us Delaney Yeager I believe has met Michael Shannon and says he's a very intense guy. Okay, so the rest of the cast There's Judy Greer flop house favorite everybody loves her. There's Ron Perlman flop house favorite the one and only hellboy as far as I'm concerned Christine Hendrix Yeah, I haven't seen the movie yet. It hasn't come out. Maybe he's great. I thought I was David Harbour Steve Hendrix. Oh, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big He's amazing. Ian McShane, acting legend from Deadwood, who I got to work with once on a daily show project.
Starting point is 00:09:28 There's all these people in it where I'm like, oh, this is gonna be, this is such an amazing cast. This is gonna be an amazing movie. Was this an amazing movie, guys? Well, it did. And it's so special. It's a great word to make. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Now, here's the thing about this movie. This movie, and we'll get to it. I'll give you a fore warning. I'm gonna get a little mad at the end because this movie went from an instant at the very end of the movie. It went from very harmlessly inoffensive to incredibly offensive to me. We'll explain why. We'll get to it. That's a little... I'm billboarding that that I got very mad at the end of the movie. That's a little teaser. So let's talk about what happens in this movie. Guys, you know what,
Starting point is 00:10:02 usually this will give you a hint of what this movie was like. Usually, when we do this, this episode, my notes on a movie can run to six pages, and I'm crossing stuff out because I have to decide what details are worth talking about. My notes for this movie are three pages long. I think I crossed nothing out. And filled mainly with cartoons of Bigfoot. Yeah. Or the very unconvincing Bigfoot-ish costume.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Okay. Pottersville. It's kind of an independent film with an amazing cast. Pottersville is a small town. It's fallen on hard times. The mill closed. All these stores are shuttered. And the center of the town is really Michael Shannon's General Store, which has been in
Starting point is 00:10:39 the town for 200 or some odd years. And it's just an old-fashioned general store literally with jars of penny candy counter. If stores are going to be shuttered in this town, I was thinking that this store would be first among them. It really seems to be like the sort of store that only would be able to survive in a high tourism area, which the store is not. No, it's very vintage. It's like, oh, we can't shut down the notions store. Exactly. Let's do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:07 The whole town, despite having fallen on tough times economically, all kind of looks like a LL Bean catalog from the 90s. Oh, yeah. And by that, I mean, it's all white people. And their clothes look great. Nobody looks like, I mean, nobody's all white people. And they're clothes look great. Nobody looks like, I mean nobody looks like they've fallen hard times.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And they can afford laundry detergent to parents. And the other reason that Michael Shannon's source should be out of business is he's so kindly, he just lets people take things and owe him money. And he says that he writes their name in a big ledger, I'll get you when you have money. It's okay, I'll get you when you have money. And at first when he says that, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:44 oh, he's like a Leeland gaunt. This is a fucking needful things. Yeah, he's gonna come back and steal their secrets and wishes. Casting Michael Shan is one of those things where you're like, uh, you can't fool me. He's a bad guy. You're waiting for the other shoot to drop the entire like I was waiting for a post credit scene where he's just got bloody hands and everyone in town is dead around him and he goes, not again. Not again, I've done it again. But that didn't happen. Okay, and he works with Judy Greer, who just works with him.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And it's clear that she's got a little bit of a crush on Mikey Shanz. Yeah, I mean, the sexual tension between the two of them is so palpable right away. It is, it's palpable in a real unemotional New England sort of way where it's like, uh, there's a glance and you know that if this movie didn't end the way it did, then at some point 30 years from now on their deathbeds, they might hold hands. Yeah. And that would be the extent of their passion. This movie obviously sets her up to be the true love interest of the movie yet up until the moment that they kiss at the variant of the movie spoilers. There's no romantic like plot really between.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Well, she asks him over for a mood to go have a watch a movie with him at home at one point. And I think she's also worried he's going to kill himself at that point because he's so sad. Do you think that was also an attempt by the movie to subvert expectations, like casting Michael Shannon to play a normal dude? Did they cast Judy Greer who is often cast as either the best friend or like, I don't know, the Shrill X-Wife, to cast her in the lead, the romantic lead in this case?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Do you think that was the attempt or the movie to like mess with you? This movie's a real mind-buck of a movie. Yeah. It's what I'm trying to go for. It's always subverting expectations. Uh, also in town, Ian McShane, he's a local hunter and drunk who has his own moonshine and is kind of the villain of the movie, but the movie doesn't seem to realize that.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So Michael Shannon, he comes home early from work one day, only discover that his wife, Christina Hendrix, is a furry. Which is having a, which they don't really seem to understand what furries are in the movie. home early from work one day, only discover that his wife, Christina Hendrix, is a furry. And she's just- Which they don't really seem to understand what furries are in the movie. Before we get to that, I feel like this movie uses that fucking movie shorthand. It uses the movie shorthand.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It uses two bits of movie shorthand that bugged me. One is a guy who's like, I'm gonna go home early. Is shorthand for it. You're gonna find out something that's going on. No one ever goes home early in a movie and finds that their wife is delighted that's going on. No one ever goes home early in a movie and finds that your wife is delighted that they're there. You know?
Starting point is 00:14:08 And then the other one is the idea of a movie that begins with a man's like wife cheating on him and has the weird fantasy of like his life explode, like his life and responsibilities exploding around him and how can he pick himself back up? Well, here's the thing. In real life, people do not ever find out things about their marriages that they don't like and marriages never fall apart.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So it's such a science-fiction-y crazy idea that the only way for someone to respond to it in a movie is for their entire life to be shattered and to literally lose their sanity and dress up in a gorilla costume and run around. Because it's just a thing that's, it's kind of like how it's like, in real, we all these movies about aliens, but no one's ever really encountered an alien.
Starting point is 00:14:50 If they did, their heads would explode. Similarly, there's all these movies about that. Why is Elliot winking when he says that thing about no one's ever encountered an alien? Well, they haven't found us yet. Oops. The, it's, yeah, these movies treat it as if, when someone's marriage is at trouble, one, they would never movies treat it as if,
Starting point is 00:15:05 when someone's marriage is in trouble, one, they would never know about it at a head time. It's always a shock and a surprise, and which just shows bad communication. But also that, too, the, that, it's like there's no way of, there's no way of surviving it without having a clear mental break.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And Dan, I guess what I'm dancing around is, flop house listeners know that you had a separation separately, you did not have a mental collapse, which led to you doing insane, crazy things. You didn't have like a falling down type scenario. You're a regular human being and you were like, this is difficult, but I, you know, I have to live through it. I mean, if you stop the sentence that mental collapse, I think you might be wrong, but big put costume as we will find out that Michael Shannon does later on in the movie. To be fair, Dan, you are always kind of on the edge of a mental collapse. That was, that's, you know, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That was a real pick me up, Ellie. I'm just saying that you're, it's a, it's a film trope that's not, it's the same way that a woman can have an upset stomach without being pregnant and someone can cough into a handkerchief without dying of a consumption. Like that's just what happens in the movies. So Michael Shannon's come home. Christina Hendrix is a foray. She likes dressing up as a bunny.
Starting point is 00:16:17 She's having a non-sexual affair with Ron Pearl and the town sheriff who dresses like a wolf. There's apparently a furry club and there's nothing sexual about it. They just like to hang around each other and rub up against each other in furry costumes. Now, here's the thing. No. I am not.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Oh, weird. Is that like going to go on a weird soap box against fur? No, well, the thing is that like the movie kind of wants to have it both ways, I think, where there's a scene later where it's kind of implied, like it's okay for them to be furries, but every scene up to that point, furry is just an out and out punchline, and it's not a fetish that I happen to share, but there are people who have it, and like the idea that it's,
Starting point is 00:16:54 I guess it's a famous enough fetish that you can make fun of it, but it is not so well-known that it's normalized, but I felt very icky to me the entire time that it was like seen as, that it's implied it but I felt very icky to me the entire time that it was like seen as, that it's still working. It's not super icky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:08 The movie treats it. The way the movie treats it. The movie, yeah, not the, not the fetish itself, which whatever, I don't care, no one's getting hurt, but the way the movie treats it. The movie treats the very existence of furries
Starting point is 00:17:17 as a joke in and of itself. Yes. It's the problem. Yeah. And it bugs me because it's like, make up some silly fetish of your own. Don't use a real thing Like if it's gonna be a joke make something up, so you're not making fun of real people, but I unfortunately This I think it I mean the fetish is what is the catalyst for the whole plot of the movie. Yeah, that's true
Starting point is 00:17:39 Well, maybe they shouldn't have made this movie. I guess it's what I'm getting at Weird to make this movie, I guess, is what I'm getting at. Whoa. It's also weird that I don't get it. I do find it strange that if they're going to do this, if they're going to have this break up the marriage, that they make it so very clear that it's non-sexual. Well, I was wondering who this movie is for, because it's like a movie for grown-ups that seems like it is chasing a PG rating. Because like, yeah, they'd, and every time they land it on PG-13. a movie for grown-ups that seems like it is chasing a PG rating. Yeah. And that's why it landed on PG 13.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah, I guess you're right. Everyone's favorite rating. It feels like the movie doesn't know what the tone is supposed to be. And it's something I want to get at. This is a weird movie, not necessarily plot-wise. The movie plot is, there's not a lot of plot in this movie. You could do this movie in 22 minutes probably. But everything about the movie, like the way it's shot and paced and the score, it feels
Starting point is 00:18:28 very strange and claustrophobic and artificial. And it's like they think they're making a coen brothers movie, but it doesn't have a sense of life about it. But the score is like a hallmark movie. It's just like the most cartoonish, like, I think Stuart while he was watching it. Yeah, I think he mastered around. Really making master's up Stuart Texardessides was like, this score is working overtime. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:48 When you said that this movie could have been done in 22 minutes, I think it kind of has. Wasn't that like the plot of the second episode of The Simpsons? Yeah, basically that he gets mistaken for Bigfoot. Yes. There's actually more incident in that because they go camping, he gets lost, he gets captured by scientists. Like, there's more in that because they go camping, he gets lost, he gets captured by scientists. There's more in that than there is in this movie. Did the tone of the movie feel weirdly like everything was in a snow globe packed with
Starting point is 00:19:14 foam peanuts to you the same way it did to me? Just airless. Yeah. Well, I noticed it had a very strange manner of being shot to. There was a lot of extreme closeups, like which I think makes it more insulated, like you say, like, insular. There's just a lot of tight shots on Michael Shannon's face.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, just like you were never really here. And like it's not shot poorly. It's just not, it's shot in a way that does not serve the material, like it's not ugly, but it's like, it feels like someone watched a lot of like, Barry Sonnenfeld's movies from the early 90s, late 80s and was like, God it, that's how you shoot a movie, but without really knowing why you do it that way
Starting point is 00:19:56 in certain times. Okay, but the here's the important thing. We've danced around it enough. Michael Shannon shattered at his wife's kind of infidelity, but really keeping the secret. Get strong. And more than that, she says that she thinks they should take a birth. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:08 She says she's looking for excitement and she can't find it in her life with him. The only excitement she has is dressing up like a bunny and just kind of playfully padding the sheriff in a wolf costume. And so Michael Shannon, as we've mentioned, there's only one response this, his mind shatters. He gets drunk, puts on a gorilla costume, and then blacks out. She's like, because his thinking is, he's like, if she likes padding Ron Pearlman, I will
Starting point is 00:20:33 make myself look like Ron Pearlman. Yeah. In order to catch a furry, I must become a furry, as he says. That's kind of what he, there's a leading up to that. There's a scene of Michael Shannon being drunk, which was a very exciting moment because I'm like, here's where he's gonna snap. No, you were hoping for a kind of Nick Cage and Mandy type performance there for Michael Shannon. Yeah, and I mean, I think this is the most excited he seems in the whole movie.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Yeah, I had to say that Michael Shannon's sleep walks through the movie, I think, is maybe a bit of an accurate statement, possibly. Are you suggesting Stuart that Michael Shannon took the role because he wanted to run around in a big podcast? I 100% think that's why there's this is the closest Michael Shannon gets to that moment that he gets in most movies where most movies. There's at least one scene where it looks like Michael Shannon's eyes are just going to fly out of his head.
Starting point is 00:21:27 scene where it looks like Michael Shannon's eyes are just going to fly out of his head. And this is a, I mean, this happens early on in the movie. So it's a, it's a bummer that you have to go through the rest of the movie without that kind of what thunder from big trouble, little China moment. Yeah. You've got to assume that Michael Shannon has a checklist, he has a bucket list of things he wants to do on this earth. And it's like, okay, act on the stage. Yes. Nominated for an Oscar. Yes. work with for Ninhurt Sogg. Yes, run around in a big foot costume.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Why is no one giving me this opportunity? I don't understand. Am I going to have to sell finance this project? And this movie comes along. Now, here's the other thing. The gorilla costume is not that furry. It's when you're a furry, I think it's really the plush aspect of it. Yeah. It really gets people the softness. This costume looks pretty rough. And I, I think it's really the plush aspect of it. It really gets people, the softness. This costume looks pretty rough and I do not think it's going to win over Christina. Yeah, but I mean, he's learning. He's new to the lifestyle, but he wants her back. Yeah, I mean, to paint a word picture, the...
Starting point is 00:22:18 No, no, paint is a real picture, Dan. Use paint. Okay. Well, I'll have to unpack my easel, but all right. Okay. No, it's, the costume is one of those camouflage costumes that's like made to look like sort of swamp moss, and that's what he's wearing on his body. Like a gillie suit?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yeah, I don't know what that means. That's what like cool snipers wear. Yeah, like gillie, the Kristen wig character on Saturday Live. And then as we said, he's wearing a gorilla mask which he pulls out of his, I guess, Halloween stock of stuff that he has in his store. It's that period when it's almost Christmas where there's still some Halloween stuff on sale.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah. Because the gorilla masks didn't fly off the shelf so he thought they would. Here's the hint. Here's the hint, Michael Shannon. Stock the whole costume, not just the mask didn't fly off the shelf. So he thought they would. Here's the hint. Here's a hint, Michael Shannon. Stock the whole costume, not just the mask. Nobody wants to go as gorilla basketball dunk mascot every year. I know you think that's the best costume. A gorilla mask. You got a basketball uniform and then you jump off of a catapult trampoline
Starting point is 00:23:18 whatever to do dunks. People love it in the middle of a basketball game. They do not love it on Halloween. Sorry, Michael Shannon. Maybe you think they do. Maybe you're thinking those kids would just put on the mask and put on what like a like a button down shirt and a tie and go as monkey man, a Brian. Yeah. Yeah. Kids favorite comic book character, which is connected to here because Ron Prolon played Hellboy and monkey man and O'Brien started as a backup series in the original Hellboy mini series. Stuart, you've opened a beautiful web of connections here. Monkey man, O'Brien started as a backup series in the original Hellboy mini series. Stuart, you've opened a beautiful web of connections here. Monkey Man and O'Brien, the series
Starting point is 00:23:50 that never quite got off the ground, despite having the amazing art of art atoms. Guys, can we talk about how amazing art atoms is? It's great, he manages to do cheesecake artwork that doesn't make you feel totally creepy. Not totally, but the fact that it's always a cheesecake woman who's fighting a big monster helps a little bit. That certainly helps you.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Okay, so Maynard wakes up to find that the whole town thinks that it saw big foot running around. And he remembers these flashes of running around and drinking out of a fountain in the shape of a little boy peeing and everyone. I have to say, this scene goes on bafflingly long. It's like the movie does not expect us to put two and two together.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Exactly. It's a series of close-up of Michael Shannon's face and then like, like, 10 different scenes of him remembering Bigfoot running around. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's very, it's very chess, pulmonary, at the end of usual suspects. Except if that went on forever and then he called other people into the room and was like, hold on a second. how we put these pieces together?
Starting point is 00:24:47 Wait a second. And then the text, the text verbal is guys or so as they just flashed on the screen over and over again. And the subtext of this movie is Michael Shannon is really stupid. His character, the actor, his character made it. He's got to say that's some weird shade, dude. Yeah. He's clearly not.
Starting point is 00:25:04 He's a brilliant man okay here's my guess Michael Shannon loves running around in that bigfoot costume that he kept making them shoot more and more footage of him and they're like we've used up so much film shooting him as bigfoot we gotta find a way to use some of it in the movie we just have so and so they kind of tried to other side of the wind it and use all the footage they could into these into these chopping moments okay so the town is hopping out. Everyone's excited that Bigfoot is here. This could revitalize the town.
Starting point is 00:25:29 This could make the town famous. Even Maynard's wife, Christina Hendrix, is really excited because the implication I guess is that she wants to have sex with Bigfoot. Like that's the big foot is like the ultimate furry because he's furry on the inside as well. Yeah. I mean, well, that's how it is. No, that a human can only be furry on the outside wearing costume, but on the inside,
Starting point is 00:25:47 they're always going to be human, not an anthropomorphic animal. But they put, he's an anthropomorphic animal on the inside, his soul, and also on the outside. So it's like, oh, finally, the ultimate, the alpha and omega. Yeah, I mean, I don't know that much about squatches, but you're probably right. Yeah. I mean, I think more than anything, she's just so excited. I only know about butternut squatches, but you're probably right. I mean, I think I think more than anything she's just about butternut squatches. She's just happy that there's excitement in her life and in her town. I mean, I think she even says this is the most exciting thing to happen in our town in 10 years. Hey, I just had a flash on like the implication of this, like maybe being that
Starting point is 00:26:19 Christina Hendrix is her porn is Harry and the Henderson's. I'm sure it is for somebody, Dan. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah. It's got John Lithgow. And now I mean, come on. It doesn't get sexy. And that's why everybody loves that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, what's the movie made with
Starting point is 00:26:37 brand-a-poma? Raisin cane. Raisin cane. Thank you. That's why raisin cane is people think is so sexy. And you see all those, those women dressing up in sexy doctor Lizarro costumes on Halloween. I mean, my love of raising cane certainly is why I often frequent raising canes chicken fingers for a chain restaurant when I was around in the Midwest. I thought you were going to say raising cane convict conventions.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Okay, it's pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you guys going to be at cane con this year or you'll sit it's pretty cool. Oh, yeah, you guys are going to be at CaneCon this year, or you'll sit it out this time. Yeah, and I'll show up with my copy of Cain by Gene Tumer and try and get it out of the graph. I like to do former. Imagine that at CaneCon, like 90% of the people are there thinking it's a citizen Cain convention, and everyone else should explain them like, no, no, no, no. This is raising Cain convention. Actually, the thing is, 90% of them are there thinking it is an industry convention for
Starting point is 00:27:25 makers of canes. So you've got elderly people, you've got cane manufacturers, you've got candy cane companies. But the big thing is always when John Lithgow gives his state of the industry speech at the end of it, where he talks about how the cane industry, meaning raising cane, is doing. And he talks about not a lot of raising cane remakes this year. Haven't rebooted raising cane yet. Yeah. And he just, he always, the big moment atakes this year. Haven't rebooted raising cane yet.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And he just go, he always, the big moment at the end when he announces that year's DVD sales for raising cane. People love it. Well, cane con is fun. You should go to cane con. It's in Richmond, Indiana, right? Oh, well. By her own college. If you're staying there, do not expect a quick breakfast at the holiday. And let's just say that. Oh, wow. Yeah. This is a little inside talk from our trip to If you're staying there, do not expect a quick breakfast at the holiday in. Let's just say that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:06 It's a little inside talk from our trip to Ireland where we did a live show just recently. We had these. Okay, guys. The lowest breakfast ever. That's the background. That's the background. If you've ever ridden to a holiday and ordered breakfast, and then you've waited so long for the food that the restaurant has closed before it is delivered to you.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I think you're being charitable by calling it a restaurant, Ellie. I feel like it was a lobby. Yeah. Good one. But what we needed, what we needed was a real, it may take forever for our food to show up, but at least they were out of all the things we wanted to order.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Good point. Good point of the three things left, it took them a while to really perfect them. Okay, so this town is famous now. The name of the town, Potter's Bill. I almost forgot it, but it's the name of the movie. It's not for God or spill. No, a famous TV monster hunter. Brock, what was his name? Brock, a master's interest, something like that. He's played by Thomas Lenin. He's not. He's Australian. And he's a real prima donna. We soon learn that he's not really Australian, he's just pretending. And this is, at start, he helicopters into town and says he's going to catch this
Starting point is 00:29:10 squash. Now, first, this is a strangely understated performance for Thomas Lennon, a man who has done some large performances in the past in various, you know, various mediums. You know, this is, this is Mr. LaPanne. But at first, he's very, and what I realized is like, oh, he realizes he has to get bigger throughout the movie and he's being a professional about it. And I was impressed by Thomas Lenin's devotion to this part.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah, I do want to say before we go too far away from it, I think this movie really overestimates the amount of revitalization someone seeing Bigfoot would spring to a town. Yeah. There is so much Bigfoot would bring to a town. Like, there is so much Bigfoot tourism all of a sudden. And there's a moment where these guys are selling Bigfoot merchandise and they're like, did you know Bigfoot exists in every culture in every language? And they say it a couple times in the movie and it's like, there's no damn way that that
Starting point is 00:30:01 is true. Every language in every culture has a Bigfoot. Come on. Do you know that the fifth element is big foot? I had no idea. Oh wow. Did you guys you know Kaiser Soze? Yeah Wow, I mean there was some foot related stuff with Kaiser Soze, so that would make sense That's true. Yeah. Did you know at the in Cicada County says Rosebud says rosebud, what he was actually saying was rose bigfoot? Oh, okay, yeah. Because you got to slow it down like mumbles
Starting point is 00:30:31 or whatever in an indicator, you say to figure that one out. Yeah, exactly. Play it backwards. It's backwards masked. So, yeah, the town is instantly revitalized. There's lots of people. It gets the attention of this guy. Now, I'm just going to say this right now.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Thomas Lennon is playing the exact same character James Gordon plays in small foot a Fakie TV nature hunter who wants to thanks for a reference. I will not understand at all This is for this is for the parents in the audience is that both of them are Television hosts who want to fake an experience with Bigfoot in order to get ratings and save their career. And it works a little better here than in small foot. I'm just gonna say that. And I think maybe the reason is because Thomas Lennon never sings a parody of under pressure.
Starting point is 00:31:16 That's all about how his ratings are down. And he needs to find a Bigfoot to save his career. Kids love that. Kids love under pressure. And they love talk about TV ratings and people's careers in an industry. They don't care that under pressure and they love talk about TV ratings and people's careers in an industry. They don't care that much about even they love watching TV. Okay, guys. So this is a relatively short movie and I feel like this is the point where they
Starting point is 00:31:34 must have just realized like, oh, we need to fill this. Let's just mainly like Michael Shannon's not the main character anymore. The main character is not Lennon. Yeah, this is Michael Shannon. Like, this is what I just said. I texted the guys and it's like, who's the protagonist of the group? Yeah. Because he, yeah, he's gone for the whole middle section. Not the whole middle section. Every now and then they check on him in Judy Greer
Starting point is 00:31:56 and Judy Greer's like, Hey, you okay? Michael Shannon's like, I'm fine. And then they go back to Thomas Lennon. Yeah. So first Thomas Lennon and the cops, they go and the whole town, they go to hunt for Bigfoot, they find a dead deer. And Thomas Lennon's like, Thomas Lennon and the cops, the whole town, they go to hunt for Bigfoot,
Starting point is 00:32:05 they find a dead deer, and Thomas Lennon is like, oh, Bigfoot killed this deer. And then he plays a Yeti hunting song on his acoustic guitar and he dedicates to Nelson Mandela. This is a part of the movie where I was genuinely like, okay, I'm laughing at this part. That he's like, I did write a song about it and everyone in the town loves him.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And he's like, I wanna dedicate this song to Nelson Mandela and then gets choked up and then plays this dumb song about Yeti's. And Ian McShane interrupts by parodying Quentin Jaws, scratching his fingers on the chalkboard and says, Hey, if we want to be really famous, we can't just see Bigfoot. We've got a catch Bigfoot, which I kind of assumed
Starting point is 00:32:38 was what Thomas Linden was going to do anyway. I don't know what he's adding to that. But they say, he he says well, we'll think about it. Thomas London goes to shoot his show in the woods in a scene that goes on forever. And they're trying to fake a big foot encounter. And then Michael Shannon runs out in his costume and scares everybody. Now this, this scene features, you know, the film crew working on the show. And I just want to point out that one of my bartenders Mickey auditioned for one of those roles really and he didn't get it
Starting point is 00:33:06 Oh, how much better this movie would have been if Mickey had been one of those dudes Tom Lennon he want now I want to have like an I was there to type interview with him about the audition process for Read with Michael Shannon like how did it happen? I don't I didn't get that any information about that But they did he did have to react to Bigfoot, pictures of Bigfoot over and over. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Reaction. Like, I'm just imagining people like with big flashcards and be like, what do you think of this? It's a Bigfoot. Okay. We need a bigger reaction. It's a Bigfoot. Give me a reaction as big as his foot.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And go. Anyway, the ultimate thing that happens is Thomas Lennon, he wants to leave because he scared a big foot. Oh, it's real. I saw what looked like a man in a gorilla suit run right by me. It means big foot is real. I got to get out of here, but the producer says,
Starting point is 00:34:00 no, this could save your career if you catch big foot. You're going to team up with Ian McShane. And you know what, Sheriff Ron Perlman wants to come along too. And then most of the movie at this point is just career if you catch Bigfoot. You're gonna team up with Ian McShane. And you know what, Sheriff Ron Pearlman wants to come along too. And then most of the movie at this point is just him hanging out in the woods, kind of getting to know each other and bonding over their moonshine liquor
Starting point is 00:34:13 to and just kind of culture clash between this prima donna city slicker, Thomas Lennon and this back woodsman Ian McShane. And yeah, Michael Shannon, at a certain point, you're like, did he have another commitment? And he had to go make nocturnal animals, and they had to write around him, like what happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Now guys. And so much of this at this point is like, is Thomas Lenz character doing silly things? And everybody just kind of like making fun of him for it? Yeah. Like, I don't know, it just doesn't, it's not funny. No. It's like, it's like every Saturday night live sketch where you just have one character who's wacky and everybody else like comments on.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Why is he doing this? He's crying desperately to and live in this. Like he's got his big silly Australian accent on and he's, he's, he's, he's, he's open and running around. And his plan is to capture Bigfoot. Okay, I'm just laying this on it. He's gonna capture Bigfoot. This will save his career.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And then he will no longer have to be Brock Masterson, Australian guy. And then he can go back to making movies. It's a little unclear how he's going to gracefully exit the persona of Brock Masterson and go back to his real life and do I mean, it might just be he continues to be Brock, but he's Brock as an actor now. But it is, he is saying like, oh, I'll catch Bigfoot
Starting point is 00:35:37 and then I can stop doing this show, which is not really how Hollywood works. Once you've had a big success, they want you to keep doing that again. So like, if he, the worst thing he could do is catch Bigfoot because they never would be like, do it again, get messy, catch messy now. And people really like it when you like pull the wool over their eyes like that. I mean, I guess this is effectively like an alley G's Sasha Baron Cohen type thing.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Maybe if he spun it right, if I feel like that would be the right way to spin it and not like what, I'm still here walking Phoenix type thing. Yeah, that was, well, that's clearly the wrong way to spin it since it really hurt his career for a long time. But he's recovered from it, walking Phoenix and, you know, and the director of I'm still here, KCF, like,
Starting point is 00:36:19 oh, people love him. He's usually the one feeling. The Academy Award-winning actor that is not mentioned in ads for his movies. Oh yeah, the Academy Award winning actor that seems to, it seems, well, let's knock it into it. It's like, he's one of these guys where it's like, hmm, I guess we'll just allow it and we'll just not like him very much and we'll just allow him to get away with things.
Starting point is 00:36:40 But anyway, we don't have to talk about that. Look, I work in this industry. I don't want to hurt my career. Let's keep talking about Bigfoot. And let's talk about this movie that we're punching down on because the people who made it haven't made that much of this stuff. Okay, so Bigfoot Fever, at this point, it's starting to tear
Starting point is 00:36:54 the town apart. Everyone is so hungry for fame that they've forgotten what the important thing is about Potter'sville, which is ripping off Michael Shannon's store by taking things and never paying him. That's what really holds this town together. And Michael Shannon starts to worry, what's going to happen to him if he gets found out? And Judy Greer finds his gorilla costume since he is hidden it in the one bag in his store. She starts to worry about him. Uh oh, uh, there's a lot of fighting,
Starting point is 00:37:21 blah, blah, blah. And there's a lot of hunting. And she's revealed at this point that she is not a fan of the idea that somebody is dressing up as bigfoot. Like that she thinks that that's... Yeah, she... She's a... Yeah. What are you gonna say, Stuart? She just says, she clearly,
Starting point is 00:37:43 she seems to be the only person who understands that this is just somebody in a costume, not an actual bigfoot creature. Yes. And that she is ready for this bigfoot shenanigans to be over. And by the way, I think she's the only person in town who does not have a gas leak in her house. Very open to this. Dan lives in by the way, what?
Starting point is 00:38:01 By the way, we kind of glossed over this, but Michael Shannon seemed to grasp the advantage of having a big foot in the town very quickly because almost immediately he decided to continue going out as big as bigfoot, even though the first time was just a middle breakdown. But the second time, he made a decision to go out as bigfoot again. Well, that's the thing. I feel like it's pretty unmotivated, actually. No, I know. That's his character choiceivated, actually, and that would be... No, I know, that's his character choice
Starting point is 00:38:26 because he thinks that this is a way he could get his wife interested in going back to her normal life. It's like, first it's a mistake, then he goes, well, maybe this will help me get my wife back, and then he's in too deep. Oh, man, he thought it would be just one last bigfoot. But you can, and then he's out of the game. He's out of the, he's out of the squash game.
Starting point is 00:38:42 But no, no, no, he's in too deep, and he's got to keep going. I was really hoping there'd be scenes where Michael Shannon is like wrestling with the two sides of his identity at this point like, and it's and it's where does the man rest with the Shannon end and where does the squash begin? Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing. Guys, the lesson this movie, you start by playing Bigfoot, but always ends with Bigfoot playing you. Oh, wow, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:39:07 That's a challenge. You miss 100% of the Bigfoot's you don't take. You don't have to be Bigfoot to work here, but it helps. I guess so. Like God would be on earth to do a specific number of Bigfoot's. At this rate, I'll never die. That was when Bigfoot was carrying you. Hey, that's why those, those, those buttons of the sand were so big.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Guys, I can't hear you. I mean, it's Bigfoot hanging from a branch. Guys, I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'll mall a lot of Bigfoot. Hey, guys, welcome to Bigfoot Park. All right. You know, you know, the troubles of a big foot don't amount to a hila big foot in this world. This is my new favorite game. Now, you're probably asking yourself, did I shoot six big
Starting point is 00:39:59 foot, so only five? Well, with all the big foot, I kind of lost count of my big foot. So, back yourself, do count of my big foots. So, hack yourself. Do you feel lucky big foot? What do you? We're gonna need a bigger foot, et cetera. So, the hunters think they found, I guess, a collection of big foots are possibly aliens
Starting point is 00:40:17 dropping off big foot as a prisoner on Earth, the prison planet. This is the thing that Thomas Lennon floats at one point. I was kind of in there. I was kind of hoping that would be this, but it turns out it's just a convention of furries that are there to welcome Bigfoot in what, actually, to be honest, looks like a ridiculously pleasant winter carnival. Like, they've strong lights in the trees,
Starting point is 00:40:38 there's this warm glow about everything, they're having a great time just kinda dancing. I was like, oh, this looks like really fun. Until Ian Machines starts pointing a luger at people. And I'm like, where did you get that gun? Is that? Is that part of your weird World War II memorabilia collection? Ron Perlman and Thomas Lennon, they fall into it. I mean, my problem is already a furry. Thomas Lennon's into it, but McShane is like, get out of here. Points that gun at them. Get out. We're going to catch this squash. And Michael Shannon goes out in his costume.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And Ian McShane is about to shoot him with that real gun and then Thomas Lennon shoots him with a trunk dart first. Oh, saving his life. They strap him to the front of a car and drive him into the center of town. And Thomas Lennon gives a speech where he's like, I've made the greatest discovery in human history, which is overblowing it slightly
Starting point is 00:41:22 even if it was a real bigfoot. Like... Yeah. Sure. I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that, it would not really change human civilization that much to find bigfoot. So people would be like, oh, that's cool, and they'd go about their lives. I don't think it'd be that exciting, but Judy Greer unmasks Maynard in front of everybody.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And it's almost like Clark Kent with his glasses, where it's like, how do people not see this as a man in a gorilla costume? It's so pretty. Yeah, I mean the mask. They trust them up. Like they had to get really close to him to time up and put it in the back of that. Yeah, you have to imagine they would see the seams. They'd see the part where the mask separates from the neck of the costume. And you can see Michael Shannon's white skin and his brown hair underneath it. They'd be like, oh, this bigfoot's got some weird skin condition, I guess, that his skin comes off in segments, and then there's another person's skin underneath. The bigfoot has a weird thing where his hands look like big gloves that don't attach to the sleeves of his arms, and underneath you just see,
Starting point is 00:42:18 I guess that's the white of fat. That's the blubber he uses to keep warm in the winter, since his thick hair is not quite enough in the coldest of the winter nights. But anyway, big foot everybody. Now, you may smell high karate on him. That's actually natural big foot musk that is not a cologne. And you may notice that he has a copy of Forbes magazine in his back pocket. Now, a lot of people don't know that
Starting point is 00:42:42 Sasquatch has a natural pocket in the back of their rear and also that they love to read Forbes because they want to know who the wealthiest people in the world are. Sasquatch, they have an interest in capitalism, of course, as we all know. Now, you may also realize that he is wearing a Kansas City Royals cap on his head. That's a natural Sasquatch behavior. Sasquatches, they love baseball, but they love local teams. And even though we're not close to Kansas City, they like the Kansas City Royals have a big following in Kansas City and not too many other places, except for their Kansas City transplants.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Now, you'll notice also that he is holding a toothbrush and he's sticking the toothbrush into his neck to get out a mouth that is inside of his face. It's not because this is a person wearing a mask. It's because that's how you get to a Sasquatch's teeth is through their trachea. It's the only way you can brush his teeth. And yes, question from the back, I know you're gonna ask.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yes, Sasquatch is know how to brush their teeth. Dental care is very important, as we all know, because they eat deer that they kill in the woods as we've seen earlier. Yes, another question about Sasquatch. You're wondering why he's wearing a shirt that says this isn't a beer belly, it's a gas tank for sex machine. Yes, well, Sasquatch is, as we why he's wearing a shirt that says, this isn't a beer belly, it's a gas tank for a sex machine.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yes, well, Sasquatch is, as we know, have a great sense of humor and often spent time in Fort Lauderdale during spring break. That explains that. Thank you, Cleo, the Sasquatch. Went somewhere else and bought some tourism souvenirs. We got great tourism souvenirs in the Sasquatch store over at Maynard's General Store.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Hey, we haven't seen Maynard in a while. I wonder where he is. You know what, he's about the same height as the Sasquatch that's kind of weird anyway and the Sasquatch was kind of moaning in a way that sounded like Maynard's voice but without moving his lips again the mouth side of his head he has two mouths like an alien that we had a theory that he was an alien that was dropped here as a prisoner of a sort we're not sure about that will ask him when he wakes up since we know he comes speak English since he was he was moaning something
Starting point is 00:44:23 that sounded like I'm Maynard. Let me go. But who knows? This isn't the Ziggy page. You have to go up 17 minutes. Yeah, maybe gocker. I'll pick this bit up. The movie's almost over. Greer on masks Maynard, Judy Greer on mass Maynard in like Shannon. Everyone is angry at Michael Shannon. Thomas Lenin sues the town for fraud. He's so mad. And all the towns people are mad at Michael Shannon because he fooled them. And Judy Greer says, Hey, his store is the center of our town. And you know what? Let's look at this ledger where he wrote down everyone's names that they could pay him
Starting point is 00:44:55 back. The ledger is empty. He was never going to ask them to pay him back. He was doing it just doing it from the kindness of his strange hitman and disguise heart. And then Maynard goes on live TV and his interview about it and talks about he just wanted to help the town and give people hope. And everyone's like, oh yeah. And there's a reporter who appears a couple times in the joke is just that she has a Latin
Starting point is 00:45:15 name that she says with an accent. And it's one of these things where it's like, this is not really a joke. It's kind of where you keep hitting this so hard. Everyone apologizes to Maynard in a real ripoff of the scene from It's a Wonderful Life. Ron Pullman I think even says, here's to Maynard, the richest man in town and people like, it's a Christmas miracle. Oh, it's great. This is the only reason why this place is called Potter's Village. I guess it's because they reenact this. It's a wonderful life thing. Even though Potter was the evil version of that town.
Starting point is 00:45:42 What makes me wonder is this set in the, in the, it pottersville universe where, where George Bailey did kill himself, didn't, never was never born or died as a kid, and it turned to evil pottersville, did that evolve into this town? Cause then I kind of, then I think it's, yeah, well, so what is it?
Starting point is 00:46:00 What happened? Yeah, it's the same universe. Guys, I gotta, I admitted in a city hall. I've never seen it's a wonderful life. No, I'm assuming it is, the name is like sarcastic, right? It's like for the USA or something. I mean, for much of the movie, it kind of is. Most of the movie is about how George Bailey's life did not live up to his hopes for it.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He's had to really compromise. And then at the end it's like, no, I do like these things, and I'm important, without me, the world would fall apart. So I'll carry these disappointments, I'll carry them on my shoulders like my own cross, and I'll suffer, and I'll allow the world to scourge me so that it can live on and be better.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And at the end everyone's happy. But it's kind of a dark movie for a lot of it. But it makes me wonder, is the movie even darker? Is all the stuff at the end, where George Bailey is like, very Christmas, you're wonderful, savings and loan? Is that all going through his mind as he drowns
Starting point is 00:46:54 after jumping off the bridge? And actually, his life is like, oh, that's all just what he, it's a real, owl-creek bridge type thing. Where all that stuff is just his last moments of fantasy. But in reality, in real life, what happened next was George Bailey's body was fished out of the river at Bedford Falls. And Potter took over the town leading to Potter's Field Star in Michael Shannon.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Oh no. Leaving the town uniquely susceptible to a fake boot big foot. So George Bailey's life really was important, because without him we got this movie. You got to, there's a different version of this called Bedford Falls where big foot's running around and people are like, big foot big foot and elderly Jimmy Stewart is like,
Starting point is 00:47:33 well you open your damn eyes, it's clearly Maynard in a costume. Come on. Well, well, I can't believe how you're so excited about this big foot. Anyway, Christina Hendrix now, she's really turned on by Maynard's importance to the community and she's excited and she's like. Anyway, Christina Hendrix, now she's really turned on by Maynard's importance to the community,
Starting point is 00:47:46 and she's excited, and she's like, hey, maybe we can get back together, and you can put on that gorilla costume again. And Maynard says, no, I don't think we're right. I think we should split up. And then he asks out Judy Greer, he says, hey, should we still have that movie at your house? Because earlier on, she was like,
Starting point is 00:48:00 wanna have a movie at my house? We can make popcorn, and it's so clear that she's saying like, you should come to my house so we could do it By the way the scene where The scene where made her rejects Christina Hendrix character is like it happens like right after Everyone's like you're the richest man in town and they're all just still standing around
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, I feel like the most awkward thing to me I was like I'm gonna break off our marriage. Well everyone in town looks on Well, they were gonna find out about it eventually, right? Just all town. But you're right, it is. It's weirdly doesn't say, hey, let's step into the back room or something like that. No, he wants to publicly shame her. And now here's the moment where, okay, this movie, I haven't loved it. I found it a little weird. I found the furry joke stuff off putting. Yeah. Here's where the movie made me really angry in just like a sentence is they go, uh, there's a TV report and it says like, uh, Thomas Len, you know, a Brock master center, Brock, whatever's name is Brock's lawsuit
Starting point is 00:48:57 has been dropped. As it turns out, it's been revealed. He is not Australia. He's actually actor Lenny Abramowitz from Coney Island. And they fire him and it was like, and now he's fired from his job and he is an exile from, he's a fraud himself and it was like, oh, I get it, because he's fucking Jewish. That's what it is. He's Lenny Abramowitz from Coney Island.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So he's a stupid New York Jew who thought he could fool all these good-hearted Christians, kick him out, burn him at the stake, and it made me so mad. I got so mad. And I know that they were probably just like, Lenny Abramowitz is a funny name. Like, let's do that. But it was like, this became a Christmas movie in the most hateful way in one sentence. Where it was like, we love it. Christmas is great. We're all pals. This is wonderful. Get this Jew out of here. Get this idiot. Get this asshole lying Jew. We tried to cheat all of us outta here.
Starting point is 00:49:48 This New York Jew, get him out, and I was like, movie, I hate you now. It was like, I had never turned on a movie so quickly since the movie Helen the Pacific, which is a great movie until the very end when it just kind of craps out and stops. But I was like, you know, a movie, I don't particularly like you,
Starting point is 00:50:03 but you're not hurting me in any way. And then they were like, Lenny Abramowitz from Coney Island. And the guy goes, that doesn't sound like an Australian name. It's like, fuck you, dude, there's Jews in Australia. Like, go to hell. He could be Australian asshole, like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry for the swearing.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Dan, put an explicit language warning on this one. Okay, yeah. But it just means you're so mad. Nearly 300 episodes. That was funny. Please. Yeah, I mean, Elliot, but don't worry. Thomas Lenin's character also gets choked out So mad nearly 300 episodes Elliot, but don't worry Thomas Lennon's character also gets choked out by a security guard in that same sequence Oh, yeah, well once once it's clear that he's once it's clear that he's Jewish like he's since he's less than him and just beat him up
Starting point is 00:50:38 Throw him away. Oh, it just made me so mad It was like and it's just it's one of those things where I'm sure they did not mean to so mad. It was like, and it's just, it's one of those things where I'm sure they did not mean to it be like, this guy's Jewish, kick him out of our Christmas movie, but it just shows how like, it's similar with the furry things. It's super, super, super thoughtless. Yeah, it's thoughtless. This furry stuff will be funny. Oh, you know, we'll give him a silly Jewish name and then we'll beat him up. And it's like, oh, come on, think about what you're doing, dudes, especially in like a Christmas movie. Look, guys, maybe I'm
Starting point is 00:51:04 just sensitive because I'm just sensitive because I'm already getting ready for that time of year when I have to deal with everyone else's Christmas junk. And I'm gonna have my son asking me Christmas questions, I don't wanna deal with, as we mentioned in previous episodes, we went to a thing yesterday in LA called the Elves Fair, and I was like, I don't wanna go to this,
Starting point is 00:51:21 but it turns out it was like a, it's like a renfest type thing. So it was, it was actually like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like it's like a red fest type thing. So cool cool It was like like like legaleses. It was what it was like a bunch of legaluses. Yeah, exactly tons of legaluses But they did have one kind of like and shammy's like dad dad dad dad. Can you buy me some lembus bread? And you're like no, I've eat that shit. You won't have room for dinner But it's they did have one guy who's kind of like a medieval, medieval-y Pagan-y kind of like nature Santa Claus. And I was like, Sammy, we are not walking over to that guy.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Forget it. If he called himself Merlin, yes, let's talk to him. Give him a hundred tickets. Each ticket cost me a dollar, but sure, give him 10 tickets just to talk to him. So he can give you a present that would, it could buy you in the store for $1.50. But yes, talk to him.
Starting point is 00:52:03 But if he calls himself Santa Claus, get out of here. We're not doing this. But it's maybe that's why I'm just sensitive about it, guys, is I know I'm entering the Christmas corridor of the year. But just like you're bracing for that stuff. Yeah, exactly. I'm ultra sensitive to it right now, like a particularly thin condom.
Starting point is 00:52:20 So anyway. I often said you're like a particularly thin condom. But guys, aside from that one Jew who was rightfully kicked out of the public square and exiled from the community to sent back to Coney Island Rebel Longs, look, go sell some cheesecake to somebody. The town opens a big-foot museum and the Vaynerd and Judy Greer Kiss. And then I think it's implied that they hear a real big foot roar at the end, but I couldn't quite figure out what the sound effect was.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I had to literally rewind to watch it again, because in the back, you hear kind of like, ah, and they look off to the side, with surprise looks on their faces, and then it cuts to credits. And I was like, I know from Filmic Grammar that the joke is maybe there is a real big foot, but it's done in such a half-assed way
Starting point is 00:53:05 that it's like, did someone slip and fall because it's getting icy out? Like what happened? Yeah, it's as abrupt a cut as the end of an American wear with them London. Like it just, boom credits. Yeah, there's no moment where they like look at each other like, did you hear that? Uh-huh. They didn't go, here we go again. Yeah. And then put on baseball caps. they didn't go here we go again. Yeah. And then put on baseball caps. Yeah, I think they were going for, I think Potter's vote was going for like end of the soprano's type thing.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Oh, I see. I get it. That's whether playing don't stop believing at the same time. I understand. Uh huh. Yeah. All right. So guys, we've gone surprisingly long considering that do we go longer than the movie yet?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Not this time. Okay. Let's fill it up. I'm sure the episode will be. We've gone surprisingly long considering that do we go longer than the movie yet? Not this time. Okay, let's fill it up. I'm sure the episode will be, but we should do our final judgments. Is this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie or a movie you kind of like? I'm going to go to Stuart. What do you have to say? Oh, I'm going to go to Elliott.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Oh, it's Elliott going to say. I think it's time for a Danogram. Okay, I guess I'll start then. I don't know, this is a weird one. It sags a lot in the middle, like a lot a lot. I'm not entertained at all by the Thomas Lynn characters, antics. And I'm just confused by why the movie sort of grinds to a halt there. So it's it's pretty bad but at the same time I kind of enjoyed watching it because it was so baffling
Starting point is 00:54:34 and strange and I don't know I don't know who thought this plot was great let alone while these great actors decided to sign on so I'll give it a marginal good bad I guess. decided to sign on. So I'll give it a marginal good bad, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. Like the first 15 minutes I got kind of excited for what seemed to be like a fun good bad movie. And then it just kept track. Like it's so monotonous. And it just didn't do it. Like it, I don't think this is a fun one to watch with people. Yeah, it has that promise in the me. I had the same experience you guys were ahead were in the beginning, I was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:55:11 this is gonna be weird. This is gonna be, but I didn't find it that unpleasant, but then it just kept, it then it yet really started for a movie that's less than an hour and a half long. It really drags. And then at the end, they just decided to flip the bird to my heritage and my faith. So I didn't like that part,
Starting point is 00:55:29 but I... Yeah. But there were times in the beginning of the movie where I'm like, you know what, I could see this becoming almost a movie I kind of like and it just didn't, it's almost, I'm almost more the disappointment from that, from it not fulfilling that.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I'm gonna make it bad, bad. But it's one of those movies where like, honestly, I could see you watching this with an elderly member of your family on Christmas when you've run out of things to talk about. And everything would be fine. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:56 As long as they were, you didn't have to answer too many questions about furries afterwards. Hey, if you like your podcast to be focused and well researched and your podcast hosts to be uncharismatic, unhorny strangers who have no interest in horses, then this is not the podcast for you. Again, what's your deal? I'm Emily. I'm Lisa, our show's called Baby Geniuses, and it's hosts our horny adult idiots. We discover weird Wikipedia pages every episode.
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Starting point is 00:57:26 Just go to maximumfund.org slash JJH0 or email Hodgman at maximumfund.org. I'm ready to judge you on the road. Take that Jack Kerouac author of on the road. Hey guys, it's Dan. Wack author of On the Road. Hey guys, it's Dan with a solo ad read. Now listen to me. I just spent five minutes recording a solo ad read into the wrong microphone. That's right. I was sitting here, yamring to myself, to one of two microphones, the wrong one, the one that was not optimized on my digital recorder.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So that's workout the window. And you're going to get a less good solo ad read because of it. I had a whole theme song that I started with. I talked about coffee for no reason. It was a beautiful thing And now it's lost to the winds. Oh The things I've seen death ships off the coast of whatever just like blade runner I don't know I don't know that if if Elie there's still over here they could recite the whole fucking monologue But I'm not that guy. I'm the guy who's sitting here angrily
Starting point is 00:58:47 Kicking himself because he just did the stupidest thing possible and talked into the wrong microphone. Yes, how does it happen? I don't know. But apparently I should have had the coffee earlier in the solo ad read. Anyway, let's take my bitterness and fuel it into commerce. Listen, you know what's not smart? Job boards that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. Oh, so many bad resumes. I'm drowning in bad resumes. They're attacking me like they're the blob and I'm a thing that the blob eats But luckily, there's a smarter way to hire at zipper cruder
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Starting point is 01:00:45 You know, these things are like usually an organic descent into madness. Now I'm pushing the madness. Now I'm forcing the madness through me. The madness is being pulled out of me with forceps and I can't do it. Let me get someone one of this coffee. That's what people like to hear, right?
Starting point is 01:01:07 Slurping. People tune into podcasts for Slurping. Coffee fully. Let's talk about Squarespace. Shall we? With Squarespace, you can create a beautiful website. To sell products and services of all kinds, promote your physical or online business,
Starting point is 01:01:24 and now it's an upcoming event or special project, and much, much more. What else? Who knows? What do people do on the internet? Anyway, Scythe from Put Out, Stupid Podcast. What, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:37 You figure it out, all right? Why are you coming to ask me what to do with your Squarespace site? You figure it out. Okay? Jesus, like I don't have enough problems. I'm Dan McCoy, you know I've got problems. Squarespace does all this thing, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Starting point is 01:02:45 And you know how that makes me feel? It makes me feel lonely. I'm already alone. I'm literally alone in my apartment, talking to myself. And now I got no jumbo tronds either. What's that all about? If you want to get your message out to the world
Starting point is 01:03:00 via the jumbo tron, you can do it by going to maximumfund.org slash jumbo tron. Toss a few dollars our way and you can get a personal message or a business message out to our listeners. And you can see just by the way I talk, you know, that like how effective a pitchman I am. I am my dulcet tones are like the pipe-piper, luring people into commerce or, if you got a personal message, what better way to get across your love
Starting point is 01:03:37 than the monotonal sounds of a 40-year-old man sitting alone with his cat. What more could any woman or man or non-binary person ask for in a love message than to have it delivered by me, Dan McCoy? Huh? All right, enough of this banter.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Let's get back to the show. Do we have anything to plug? I forget. Well, we have our live show in January. Okay. So we should plug that. We should plug that on January 26th, Saturday at 8 p.m. will be in Wisconsin.
Starting point is 01:04:17 That's right. The University of Wisconsin-Madison has us three knuckleheads coming by. We're gonna do a live taping of our show. We haven't decided on the movie yet, have we? I don't think yet we have. But we want to do. We usually try and do a bigger movie at our live shows.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Just so there's a bigger chance that people may have actually seen what we're talking about. So that's right, Potter'sville. Yeah. So I don't know. We'll have to think of whether there's been any particularly bad blockbusters lately. Mm-hmm. It's weird. Holly would never make bad blockbusters. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:54 So that's Saturday, January 26th. At the University of Wisconsin-Madison tickets, I think are still available. You can, if you go to union.wic.edu and go to their events and activities calendar. You'll find us in January. Buy some tickets, why don't you? And let me just plug again for myself.
Starting point is 01:05:10 My book horse meets dog is out there, great gift for kids. Christmas is coming up, or Hanukkah, or whatever you celebrate. So why not, even if you don't have a holiday to celebrate, what if you're an atheist, what if you're jovah's witness and you don't celebrate holidays, that's fine. Still buy a copy of the book, give it to a kid, throw it in a fireplace. I don't care as long as you pay for it, and I get some of that sweet dollars, but I prefer you buy it and give it to a child or read it to a child, not throw it in a fireplace. I don't know. I mean, it looks pretty burnable.
Starting point is 01:05:39 It is very burnable. It's made of paper. It's always incredibly flannable. If you get the room to 451 degrees Fahrenheit, it will burst into flame on its own. And so just don't do that. But horse meat stock in stores now. Thank you for answering that literary question for me too. Because I was always like, I bet books burn way lower at way lower temperatures than 450, one degrees Fahrenheit.
Starting point is 01:06:05 But I didn't know that it was when it would burst into flame sort of a lot of time. Well, it's, I'm not sure if it's the temperature at which paper burns. Okay. So that when, so the flame has to get it to that heat, but I'm sure if it was in a room, it would burst into flame at that heat,
Starting point is 01:06:21 but that's the temperature at which it burns. Okay. So that wouldn't happen in my home because as you know, I always keep my home at a cool 98 degrees. Oh no, no, Stuart, you don't know the inside of your mouth is a blistering 98.6 degrees. Blah. I used to love those. Is that why that band is named 98 degrees because that's the temperature of the inside
Starting point is 01:06:42 of a human mouth? Yeah, I mean, that's the temperature of a human body. So it's the hottest you can get and not be unhealthy. But I used to love those ads for whatever it was, Dinti and I used to something or where they'd be like the inside of your mouth is blisteringly hot. And it's like, well, that's the temperature it should be. Yeah, I'm not walking around the whole day like,
Starting point is 01:07:01 I was, yeah, with mouth, with mouth blisters. My tongue is so sweaty, but it's kind of like those commercials where they day like, oh, yeah, with mouth, with my tongue is so sweaty, but it's kind of like those commercials where they're like, do you have low T? You can't play basketball the way you once could. And it's like, well, they're aging. That's what the thing is like what they're dealing with his age. Let's move on to letters. Okay. Let's do it. Let's move on to letters. Letters from listeners, listeners like you. It's the first letter. It's the most letterful time of the year. All the letters are flying and everyone's dying.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Don't open those letters. They're full of germs. Okay. Oh, that was nice. It was a real warning. It was a real warning about, I guess, D about making your, sterilizing your mail before you open it. This first letter is from Tom Lasting with Hell.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Tom is running. Uh oh. Look, I'm a big fan just because I didn't like this one movie. I'm still a fan. He says, what did you, Floposaurus Rexes? A few years back, I finally rewatched Poltergeist as an adult, and realized that I generated false memories about how the movie played out. For whatever reason, as a child, I was certain that when the tree tries to eat the kid,
Starting point is 01:08:15 being partially swallowed by hardwood, crushed, and broke his legs. This, of course, did not happen in that PG-rated movie. I have a similar false memory about Jurassic Park, namely that the boy child has his legs crushed and broken. One of the upside down car being stopped. That's on the directs. Everybody lock up your legs. Yeah. This is how a leg killer starts. But this false memory didn't last just long because of course it didn't go as long without getting back into Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park is fucking rad. Also, so boxing. Let's just not try and figure out why they both involve little boys' legs being broken.
Starting point is 01:08:51 There's some kind of Freud shit going on there, but I'ma go ahead and not poke that bear. Anyway, my question. Have you ever generated any false memories about a movie without having gone a long time without seeing it? If so, what were they? You guys are great and wonderful and thanks for doing podcasts at my earholes. Love you Tom, last name withheld. Have you generated false memories about movies? I thought this was an interesting letter so I decided to read it but I actually don't have an answer. Thanks for your thinking behind that Dan. I have so I don't the main closest thing to that is that for a long time,
Starting point is 01:09:27 I thought that Anthony Edwards was the supporting player in outbreak and not Kevin Spacey. And I think it's just because he looks a lot like Anthony Edwards in it. As I think I mentioned on the podcast before, that when I was a kid, another kid described the movie High Spirits to me and described it in a brutally violent way
Starting point is 01:09:47 that I wonder what was going on in that kid's head and I wonder if this is the same person as the letter writer. Like, maybe not. Well, I mean, if you look at the VHS box art for High Spirits with like, painted on Steve Gutenberg and Peter O'Toole, you're like, this has got to be fucking brutal.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah. Oh. No, actually, so this is an interesting question, but I have never misremembered anything in a movie ever. And if you go through our back catalog of the podcast, you will see that that checks out. Certainly never anything that involves the injuring or mutilation of a character. No, I mean, of course not. I think I already said nothing ever.
Starting point is 01:10:27 So I guess I don't know why you're being specific. Here's my question. Here's something, the movie, Baby, Secret of the Lost Legend. Now I have a memory as a kid of the two of the characters in that trying to have sex and the dinosaur keeps interrupting them. Is that a real scene? Do you guys remember this movie? No, I think that's a scene from that Punisher and Wolverine crossover with the dinosaurs where Punisher and Wolverine try to have sex.
Starting point is 01:10:56 With that sick Jim Lee artwork, I mean, it's amazing. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was savage something and the savage times in the savage land or whatever it's called, yeah, sure. I mean, I think they're in like Brazil or something. Like, that's wild that they, whatever. And like, what's Punisher doing with fucking dinosaurs, dude? Punishing them, I suppose. The Punisher doesn't punch people, Dan. You know what the punisher does.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I said, Punishing. Oh, Punishing. I thought you said punching. Okay. I was like, big old guns for everything. Yeah, punishing. I thought you said punching. Okay. No, I would just like big old guns for everything. Yeah, exactly. So people write into the fly-pouse for the baby, the last time this was a mystery, because I'm not watching that movie again.
Starting point is 01:11:35 So tell me if I remember it incorrectly. Dan. All right. This next letter is from Jessica Lasting with Hell. Mm-hmm. Jessica Lang. Wow, legend. I thought you were going to go rabbit. Interesting. Jessica last name withheld. Jessica Lang. Wow, legend. I thought you were gonna go rabbit.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I was gonna go with like an actual person instead of a cartoon. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know there was such strict rules. Well, these two are decided to recognize a true legend and icon of the screen as opposed to what the sex character
Starting point is 01:12:02 that you imagine all the time this animated lady. Yeah. Anyway, Jessica writes, I love horror movies and while some have definitely scared me or stuck with me a long time, they don't give me nightmares. For some reason, the only movie that has ever given me nightmares is the 1990 classic horror comedy, Tremors. I have no idea why this movie gives me nightmares every time I watch it because there's absolutely nothing scary in this movie. Paches have there ever been a movie that
Starting point is 01:12:29 has given you nightmares even though there was nothing about it that scared you. Just want to just want to point out that tremors is awesome. Ex-O-Gesica. She has a post-crip for Elliot. My all-time favorite movie is Clues. So every time Elliot says to make a long story short I always add it too late. That is nothing to do with the question. I just thought Elliot should know. Oh, that's very nice. I'm glad to hear that. That's a hilarious movie. Guys, when when tremors came out and I watched it all the time, my little brother and I would play a game where we Were there were tremors under the floor of our basement and we couldn't. That's the floor. Did you guys play that game? No, but that sounds fun. Yeah, it was really fun.
Starting point is 01:13:07 It does sound fun. What about you guys? Have you ever had nightmares from non-scary movies? I mean, I remember seeing Return of Living Dead Part 2 at a young age and watching it now, it is not scary. It's hilarious, but I guess I was scared of the time and it gave me nightmares. And I don't know if I mentioned this on the podcast, but I don't find the movie Mother to be scary,
Starting point is 01:13:31 but that is the closest approximation to my bartending stress dreams in a movie I've ever seen. Is people not getting off the bar and it's crashing? Yeah, well, the idea of like, like the bartending stress dream of always like, it's like just before four and people keep coming in and they won't leave and like, I have to change a keg and when I come back, somebody's pouring their own beer,
Starting point is 01:13:55 that's basically the movie mother in my head. Yeah. That scene and mother where they will not stop sitting on the sink and then keep getting back on it when she's like that, That makes me so anxious. That movie, I love that movie so much. It makes me so uncomfortable. For me, you know, because I have a sleep apnea, I rarely sleep deeply enough to dream.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I mean, I, I, for whatever reason, I dream when I'm coming out of sleep a little bit, but I, I very rarely remember having nightmares. I get stressed dreams about stuff that actually happens in my life, but I don't think I get affected by movies that way. Yeah, most of my nightmares have been, not necessarily based on real life events, but have been not based on movies. I've had a couple of nightmares that were so horrifying
Starting point is 01:14:45 that I feel like I can't tell anyone about them because who would be admitting that those things came out of my head and my own imagination. And I'm not Clive Barker where I'm like gonna brag about that stuff. I'm a role model. I'm a functioning member of society who doesn't wanna sign people's blood or whatever.
Starting point is 01:15:00 But I mean, Clive Barker's probably a fine person. But I did, I will tell you, I once had a nightmare that involved the hobo character from the Twilight Zone episode, the five characters in search of an exit, which is kind of a creepy episode, but it's not like scary.
Starting point is 01:15:14 And if you'd like, I can tell you a story about Elliot Past as a little kid and a dream I had. When I was in kindergarten, I had a hernia operation because my body was very frail. And I remember so vividly the dream I had when I was in kindergarten I had a hernia operation because my body was very frail and I remember so vividly the dream I had you are a power lifter as a kid right exactly all the problem was I thought I was a power lifter but I was ready for it yet when I was competing once I did I did a like a deadlift that was to into intense Yeah, yeah, you just eat crushed accord of milk and you're like I'm doing this. Yeah But I had when I was under for that operation I remember so vividly dreaming that the operation was going on in a big Viking longboat that was going over a waterfall and Straddling the waterfall like a colossus was the Tin Man from Wizard of Oz and he was singing to us And it was so frightening to me because I was like I'm already
Starting point is 01:16:02 from Wizard of Oz and he was singing to us and it was so frightening to me because I was like, I'm already having surgery done and the Tin Man could crush me at any moment. Like this is so frightening. And I've never been scared of the Wizard of Oz and I just, that dream has always stuck with me. You know, I think I was four at the time and it's like that moment of fright
Starting point is 01:16:18 of like this thing could crush me right now and I couldn't do anything about it. It's still very vivid to me. And I briefly, this is not moving related but briefly tell you that the dream that has haunted me the most. Yeah, sure. I had a dream that like years ago,
Starting point is 01:16:31 dreams in the flop house by HP Lovecraft. Yeah. I did. I had a dream that years ago that I, along with some other people, murdered someone and then covered it up. And that it has like, I can't believe you're talking about this
Starting point is 01:16:48 on the podcast, Dan. Dan, that was a good dream. Oh no. No, but it's like haunted me ever since, like the thing was like I woke up and then it was one of these things where I was just like, is that memory false? Like did I kill someone?
Starting point is 01:17:03 Or did I, are there all these leaves in my bed? Yeah. Is it real or did weapon X implant that memory false? Like, did I kill someone? Or is it why are there all these leaves in my bed? Yeah. Is it real or did Weapon X implant that in me? Yeah, so I like walked around for a day with like this horrifying, like, just whining guilt, like, or just like, that's great. I had the opposite experience where I had a dream that I killed a friend of mine. And they found me guilty. And it was, and one of the exhibits that was on the table
Starting point is 01:17:26 in the courtroom was his skin. They had skinned him and just folded it up like, like laundered sheets and put it on there. And they found me guilty and sent me to life in jail. And I was like, that's it. My life is over. I'm gonna spend the rest of my life in prison and I woke up and was like, I'm going to jail.
Starting point is 01:17:41 No, I'm not. Wait a minute. That was a dream. It was the best I've ever felt in my entire life. It was like, ah, I have all my whole life ahead of me. This is wonderful. It was so great. This last letter is from Catherine last name withheld. I think I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. Oh, okay. I thought you were doing a weird pun. I
Starting point is 01:18:06 Have a cat or an America is Captain America's aunt. Yeah. Yeah Several years ago I came across a small zid I came across a small zither in a secondhand store To my surprise and delight it turned out to be a tie-in product for the movie the third man How cool was I learned to play music type instrument with sheets of music you could slide under the strings, including such zither classics as Mary had a little lamb, all bling-zine, and of course the theme from The Third Man. I purchased it and gave it to my brother. I similarly had easy classics on.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Yeah. I purchased it and gave it to my brother. The person who first told me about the movie and it's all zither score. That Christmas morning, all activity came to a stop as we all tried to figure brother, the person who first told me about the movie and it's all Zither's score. That Christmas morning, all activity came to a stop as we all tried to figure out who the target market was. Children who enjoy Zither music and gritty post-war thrillers. My question is this, what is your favorite movie tie-in product?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Thank you for all that you do and apologies to Dan for writing Zither so many times. I know I did it again. Zither's not such a hard word to say. Mm-hmm. I just want to say one, I love the third man. Anyone who's listening to this who's never seen the third man go watch it. It's such an amazing movie. It's so good and the score is so good
Starting point is 01:19:15 with all the Zither in it. I guess my favorite movie tie-in is whatever huge heaping of crappy food Matt Sanger has to eat. You're favorite thing is the thing that will slowly kill our friend Matt Singer. I don't want him to die, but I think it's, I still think it's Larry's that every time they announce a movie tie in meal menu,
Starting point is 01:19:37 he's like, oh, I've got to do it. Oh, no. And the like words of people on Twitter who are cheering for this. I think you need to explain it a little more and that like if a movie comes out, like the incredible Hulk has like a full menu at dinnies or something. Yeah. I'm not tying into it. Green waffles and all this other crap, you know, that's what's happening with the
Starting point is 01:19:58 Grinch tie in menu is all the green shit at. Yeah. And so Matt Singer goes out and he eats everything on those menus. In one sitting, he eats everything. And it's all for an article, I guess, over its green crush. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:13 It's really killing himself. So it's all worth it. Very little bit off. Yeah. But I kind of miss when it seems like those meals are the really the only big movie tie-ins left that I see at least other than like merchandising for children's movies. And I remember when we were young, it was like every big movie movie tie-ins left that I see at least other than like merchandising for children's movies.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And I remember when we were young, it was like every big movie had tie-ins. And I think about the Robin Hood Prince of Thieves cereal that came out. And like, everything had so much tie-in stuff. And now the best you can get is a bag of oranges, they'll slap a picture of BB-8 on it. That's supposed to be a movie tie-in. I don't know. What do you guys think? I remember I had a full set of the smaller records, the ones with the big hole in the middle. I forget which 33s are those. I had a full set of Gremlins records that just told the story of the movie Gremlins.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I remember those. I don't remember where they came from. Did they come with, they come with like a little picture book too? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. They were two. I played the story of Gremlins together and I think they came with those. I remember playing that so many times that my mom would always quote like the beginning of one of them, which was Kate and Billy. So that was my mom's all-purpose, just like, exclamation. That, and she would also call meat roast nebri after the dark crystal. So that's how you be a good mom, I guess. I know how I'm so a mom. Cool mom. Cool mom.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah. The, I'm trying to remember, I loved, I was always chasing a full set of the Gremlins 2 collectible cards those were awesome And I mean Ecto cooler. I mean come on Sure, yeah How can you not it exists? I remember at the time a last action hero came out I think there was a series of cut glass mugs featuring scenes from last action hero That Donald's or Burger King had. And looking back is just like, I really want to see those again. I'm going to lift them up on the internet because that seems like a crazy thing for someone
Starting point is 01:22:14 to have had to have made. Yeah. These are not, this is not a movie tie-in, but I just, this just sparked a memory of my mom has these beloved dairy queen Christmas glasses that they put out when I was young. And she had to man up Christmas again. And we went to dairy, it's the season. And we went to dairy queen so much to get
Starting point is 01:22:36 like a full set of these little glasses and my brother like found a bunch of extra on eBay like a few years back and gave it to her. But I just thought it's so funny that my mom was so intent on collecting a lot of these little glasses. And were you guys going to DQ just for the frozen treats or were we also going for the brazier hot stuff? I think it was, I think I was frozen treats. Cool.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Yeah. I mean, that's, that's their signature dish. That's their signature item is the frozen stuff. Yeah. And some dilly bars. Yeah. All right. And every time Dan would go up to the cashier and say,
Starting point is 01:23:10 is there a dairy king? It's like, sir, you're 12 years old. So thanks for all those letters. And now we should move on to our final segment, which is recommendations, movies that we watched that on to our final segment, which is recommendations. Movies that we watched that we would suggest you watch instead of Potter's Hill. What are you doing, Dan? What do you see lately?
Starting point is 01:23:33 I went to see an Ida Lupino double feature at the Film Forum recently, and the second movie I would not particularly recommend, it was Artersand models to distinguish it from artists and models the Tash movie yeah, there's an earlier one movie there was a the Don Martin movie mr. Phone bones great adventure There was an earlier unrelated one that had jack Benny and it had like It was it was interesting. They had like a weird cameo from rubb groupube Goldberg at one point, and they had this long puppet sequence. It had these interesting sequences, but it was kind of a boring movie in general. So I'm not going for that one, although, you know, if it's on TCM maybe. But the first one was Anything Goes.
Starting point is 01:24:20 And I will say that Anything Goes is not a great adaptation of the stage musical, because they cut a bunch of the Cold Porter songs. Apparently, it was a combination of the Hayes Code, not liking his saucy lyrics and Bing Crosby, who played the lead, wanted more like crooner numbers he could do. And then- It makes sense, because the songs in,
Starting point is 01:24:40 I mean, those are Ethel Merman songs in anything goes. They're big, brassy numbers. Yeah. And that's not what, and Bing Crosby was more about seducing the microphone, real, real intimate. Yeah, but them, I mean, you know, Cole Porter, possibly the greatest songwriter. I don't know. Uh, yeah, yeah, him or him or Mozart or Beethoven, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Mm-hmm. I wouldn't call those songs. What would you call them, dude? They're musical compositions. They're not songs. Oh, boy. Wow. I guess I see you how you won the hair splitting competition this year. With the sharpest razor. No, I you know, I wouldn't replace like those beautiful songs with with other songs. That's a bad thing. The plot itself is cut down a fair bit, and it ends in a big racist by today's standards, Chinese number.
Starting point is 01:25:35 I give that warning about the movie, but a lot of... I mean, racist by any standards, they just didn't care back then. Yeah. I do give the movie a lot of credit though because like what remains of the farcical plot is is very funny and well done. And there's I'm looking it up. I think his name is Charles Ruggles. Yeah, Charles Ruggles plays Moonfacein the gangster in the movie that drives a lot of the plot and he is very funny it's a very it's a classic comic performance
Starting point is 01:26:10 and uh... so i like anything goes solid movie not a great adaptation of the musical cool uh... i have uh... movie i'm going to recommend is a movie that isn't probably isn't in theaters anymore But it is in now when we're recording it, but when you're listening to it, it won't be and that's the the new Susperia movie Oh, man, I love that shit. I saw it in the theater twice
Starting point is 01:26:40 It's super long. It's like two and a half hours, although I didn't feel it. It's like artsy. It's fucking wild. Yeah, it's really great. I'm not a huge fan of the original. I like it, but you know, I don't, it's a dairy or a gentle. We, I've talked about it, or my relationship with dairy or a gentle's work. And yeah, I just love it so much. It creates this world that I just like being in and yeah, it's great. Go see it. I would have recommended this this week, but I figured Stewart was all over it, so I didn't,
Starting point is 01:27:18 but I think it's kind of a masterpiece. Yeah, it's so good. I would have recommended it, but I haven't gotten to see it yet. It's also the movie that like, I've talked to multiple people who have. I would recommend it, but I haven't got to see it yet. It's also the movie that I've talked to multiple people who have walked out of it, which seems crazy to me, but whatever. Yeah. To each his own.
Starting point is 01:27:34 It's a divisive movie, which I think is. People have compared it. People have compared it to Mother, which seems strange to me, because I can clearly get why people would not like mother. Yeah. It's mother is such a big swing. And I guess the spirit is too,
Starting point is 01:27:52 but like it's not, it's, I don't know. The movie I would compare the spirit to is, and I know that, you know, the director is obviously not a good man, but I would compare it to Rosemary's Baby kind of because it has a similar way of approaching horror. It's not horror that's about a lot of thriller-style tension or big shocks, even though there are a couple of very shocking sequences, but it's about creating disquiet and it'll go on knees with you. And that I really want to see it.
Starting point is 01:28:30 And I can't wait until we hear an Academy Award nomination for Dr. Lutz ever's door. All right, what do you got to, Elliot? I'm going to mention a movie that I actually watched on a plane, but I was not lowering my expectations at all. I just happened to be on a plane. That's a movie. It's a movie I wanted to see anyway.
Starting point is 01:28:52 It was something shot in 70 millimeter, I hope. Yep, yep, it's called Avatar. So, which I have seen people watching on planes, and I'm like, all right, there was the same plane ride. There was one guy who's watching nothing but Marvel movies, and I'm like, all right, there was the same plane ride. There was one guy who's watching nothing but Marvel movies. And I'm like, all right, I guess he want to watch it on this tiny screen. Sure, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:29:11 But this movie I really want to see. I really wanted to see. And so I was excited that it was on this plane. It's called Blind Spotting. And it's a movie. And it's David Diggs. And it's all about a guy who he's served a short-term in prison and is at the very end of his probation
Starting point is 01:29:26 period. Three days to he's done with probation. He works at a moving company with his longtime childhood best friend who is white but grew up in the bad part of Oakland. So, kind of thinks of himself as honorary black, I guess. And there are a number of different things happen in the movie that all tie together and I kind of like don't want to say too much about it except that David Diggs' character is kind of constantly being challenged to not get into situations that will hurt his chances
Starting point is 01:29:56 of finishing his probation. Not through his own fault, just because of the way that this things are going on in Oakland right now and it's about gentrification and it's a little bit about the way people interact with the police there and the way the police interact with people there. And something about this movie, The Trailer makes it look like it's super intense. Like the trailer makes it look like it's a movie about
Starting point is 01:30:16 a police shooting that starts tearing someone's life apart. And it is a little bit about that. And it was listed on the airplane as genre crime, which is not the case at all. And so I want to tell people like, it's also a really funny movie, and it's really a character movie about this guy, his relationship with his best friend,
Starting point is 01:30:36 and the people around him. And it builds to a very intense, powerful climax, but it is not a non-stop forcing you to confront things movie. And it's also not a movie that feels like, oh, I have to watch this because it's about things that I approve of or something like that. It's not a movie that feels like homework. It's a really fun entertaining movie that I really, really liked a lot.
Starting point is 01:30:57 And does Devin digs rap in it? Yeah, of course he does. He's amazing at rapping. But in a way that feels, that's just really good. And I really liked a lot. So blind spotting, that's the movie. Go see it. Wow, and that's a contemporary release,
Starting point is 01:31:11 Elliot. This is a movie that came out this year. Elliot and I've been in a fountain at the same time and so we switched to... So Xians recommend in black and white movies and I'm recommending new movies about black and white issues that aren't exactly black and white. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:27 I wish everyone at home could have seen the little headcock that Ellie did. And also put my hand on, I put my fist on my head, like you guys know what I'm talking about. Let's get real everybody. And also Wayne Knight has a small part in it. So for you, we're wondering, we'll wait nights up to these days.
Starting point is 01:31:41 He said it. This is another one that cast in the movie is really fantastic. And everyone's really good at it. So blind spotting, I can't say enough good things about it. All right. Well guys, thanks for embarking on this potter'sville cheer and journey with me.
Starting point is 01:31:55 I almost said potty'sville there. Yeah. Now how would potty'sville have been different? How would that be a different movie? I feel like that's a weird Pixar movie about talking potty's. Here in potty'sville, we've got a dirty job to do, but we love doing it. But then, what would happen? This is the court-mandated movie we made so that we can teach children how to go to the
Starting point is 01:32:15 bathroom. It's like, it wouldn't be like a toilet falls off the back of a truck and has to find its way to its new home or it's a town where everyone's a toilet and I don't know what Hi, my name's John. And someone goes and something bad happens and a toilet goes crap like that's the kind of stuff that happens. And of course John Ratzenberger plays a plays doesn't voice in it.
Starting point is 01:32:37 But yeah, who's the voice of the main toilet? Mm-hmm. Dan. Oh, I think that Potter's Bill's Ron Pearlman should do that. Oh, wow. Interesting. Yeah, a young every man type voice. Yeah. Dan, uh, I think that Potter's bill's Ron Pearlman should do that. Oh, wow. It's sick. Yeah. A young every man type voice.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Yeah. Here's the thing about Ron Pearlman and Potter's show. I feel like, I feel like Tom Holland was listening to this episode and was like, he's going to say me. And then picked up his iPod and threw it in the river when he said, Tom Holland, if you're listening, right in, man. You know, we love you. Yeah, yeah, shoot a swim.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Either Tom Holland, the actor or the screenwriter. Right in director. Right in. If you're the Tom Holland from Spider-Man, right in, if you're the Tom Holland from Fright Night, right in, we don't care. We like both of you. If you're the country, Holland, do it.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Right in, yeah, sure. If you're, if you're just named Tom, right in, unless you're the Tom from the movie, peeping Tom, don't kill us with a camera with a sharpened leg. Don't do that. But so what I like, here's something I'll say for the last about Parasyl, is that Dan just made me think.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Is that Ron Proman clearly wants to do comedy? Uh-huh. He seems to really enjoy doing comedy, and he's a really funny performer, and I wish that there was more straightforward comedy stuff for him to do. Yeah. Yeah. You know, guys, I think I deserve a little bit of credit because we did a whole episode on this movie, and I didn't talk about the big-foot pizza from Pizza Hut once.
Starting point is 01:33:56 All right, so I guess we should give you some credit. You want to take it back for me? I will take it in pizza pizza. I'll take a bunch of stamps on my pizza reading club car. I get a personal fan. Your book it. I imagine Stuart lives in a world where pizza is currency. Just give me a dollar and slice a pizza.
Starting point is 01:34:23 He has to put that in a wallet and then fold it into his pants pocket. Yeah, it's the YA novel I'm working on. Yeah. The upper crust get pizza with as many toppings as they want. Okay. This is a weird dystopian. Anyway, thanks to Maximum Fun for having us on their network. Go to MaximumFun.org to check out other shows on their network. Yeah, there's probably a bunch of there better than this one.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Oh, for sure. For sure. Go listen to Switchblade Sisters, better show than this. And if you like, but if you crazily like this show, why not write us a review on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts? Why don't you tweet about us, hashtag the flop house? Why don't you tweet at us at the flop house pod? Leave a message on our on our Website if you want leave a comment on this episode, but yeah, the best thing would be to do would be to write a review You know an iTunes or something or tell a friend. Hey, you got to listen to this thing
Starting point is 01:35:24 We're all stopping friends with you. If you if you write a comment on the website don't do what one guy did and get really mad at me that I had theoretically deleted his comment which is not true I just take a long time to approve comments to make sure they are spam. So just know that you make your comment maybe delayed if you write a comment on the website don't come at me. Let's not kick over that nest of hornets. Let don't even bother Dan with it.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Just go to iTunes and write review of us there, or tweet about us, Facebook about us, Instagram about us, Periscope about us, Vine about us, Friends about us, MySpace about us, is there a thing where you can,
Starting point is 01:36:01 where it's like you can send video, I mean, text your mom about us, whatever you want to do, like send, send an email to send a bluemail e-card to your grandma about us, they love those. Just whatever electronic way of communication you use, just talk about the flop house. And an invite that it's just an invitation to listen to the flop house. Oh, that's an idea. Anyway, for the flop house, which we've been talking about a lot. I've been Dan McLeoy. Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Over here, Elliot Kaelin saying, have a happy holiday if you celebrate a holiday or not. Just have a good December. Ooh, bye. I don't see why that, ugh, was justified. That seems like a bit much. I mean, normally I recommend like, you know, some stretching and warming up, but I think we're pretty warm, guys. Yeah, let's jump right into this thing.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Let's just jump right in. Let's just drive right into the one that is hotter and it's great. On this episode, we discuss Hottersville. Let's do that over here Professional Good.

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