The Flop House - Ep. #276 - Life Itself

Episode Date: February 2, 2019

We don't usually editorialize on our own show, but... this is a good one, guys. The gang got together in a hotel room after our Madison, Wisconsin live show to discuss Life Itself, one of the most baffling, and most pleased with itself movies ever made, about nothing less than THE HUMAN CONDITION. Meanwhile, Stuart explains the secret history of the Zales shadow, Elliott reveals God's secret message to us via olives, and Dan suggests you just cover yourself in Wikipedia synopsis for Life Itself Movies recommended in this episode: Hotel Artemis Standoff at Sparrow Creek Kumiko the Treasure Hunter

On this episode we discuss life itself. Seems like a pretty vague topic, Dan. Can't we narrow it down to just like catch up? Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey I'm Stuart Wellington. Elliot Kalen, over here, sitting with my boys, Stuart Wellington, Dan McCoy and of course your David and my main boy, the big man upstairs. And your DVD collection of the TV show, my boys.

Yep, yeah, from TVS, so there's a TVS show, right? Very funny. Dan, you were saying? No, I mean, the time's passed. We're all together because we are in Madison, Wisconsin. Uh-huh. High and full.

Madison Wisconsin. Yeah, it's great, but we're hiding from the icy winds blasting the hotel we're hiding in. I didn't realize that we were entering a movie and that movie Ice Age. No. Oh, shit. It's very cold outside. Oh man.

That's what we're saying. Oh man, this is going to be a good one. Oh, it's very fire and fire. Oh man. Oh, it's a little bit of It's already firing. Oh, man. Relatable to the listener. Yeah, we are in Madison, Wisconsin. And it is called Buckle Your Seatbelts.

Oh, we were here to do a live show. You are not listening to the live show. You are listening to an episode we're recording the morning after in Dan's hotel room. The place is a mess. Just like just half dressed women everywhere. Just throwing French fries all over the place is a mess, just like just half dressed women everywhere, just throwing French fries all over the place. What? Wait, what? Is that my fantasy?

Yeah, I think that kids from Boogie Night 2 throws the fireworks everywhere. Oh yeah, I see. These are on here. Yeah, I get it. And there's just like a tub with a hippopotamus in it. Mm-hmm. Well, that came with the room. And it's this like kind of tracking shot where the camera comes into the room

and it bounced from one conversation to another. Yeah. Well, I don't know. It was something by like three dog night plays. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we were all up, well, not all. Elliot left it at a semi-reasonable time. It's still later than I wanted to be up.

Stuart and I got back to the hotel, 2.30 a.m. Oh, wow. Oh, you're just disappointed. Yeah. So, my God. It's top. It's top. I can't help it if I'm just on.

Yeah, you're ripping Stewart's hand-exquel stitches. When I said that joke, Stewart actually flipped over backwards out of the panel. You could just see his feet flying through the air. Okay, so this is a podcast where we watch a bad movie and we talk about it. And we did that. So, we stuck to our mission statement. Now, we watched this movie Life itself, which we did not watch the Roger Ebert documentary Life itself.

Which is a quite good movie. I recommend it. Wait a minute. My plot summer is going to be really weird. But this is a movie that came out last year. Yeah. It was one of those blacklist scripts, which usually means good movie that the flop house won't review right?

I think we might have asked this before, but can someone write in a reminder says that ever been a good movie made off of Blacklist script? Suspect zero. Uh, wait. No, I don't know. I'm sure there must have been. But I feel like there are all these movies that get made off Blacklist scripts

and they're not very good movies. Is the studio system work? Because I'm beginning to think that the fact that these scripts have it and bought is a good thing? Yes, I mean, the studio system was the most consistent. Oh, not the studio system, but like the, oh, does the studio system. Yeah. I thought you were saying like we need to go back to the studio system. But it wasn't just like a bunch of people throwing scripts around,

but like you had to do it, you had to pump out movies starring stars and about things. Yes, that also would be a good way of doing it. So this movie, it's by the guy who did made this, this is us, right? Yeah, yeah. So this is basically this is movie, right? I guess I wish it was called this is movie. It sounds like a timid Eric thing. Yep. Yeah, it's what Dan Fogelman, I think this is Dan.

And he's written a handful of other movies uh... let's just get into it this is gonna be a fucking beast of a movie yes to tell us what this movie is about that i've i've elected uh... i was so inspired by the majesty of this movie that i have elected to be the uh... plot summarizer so you might just want to ride that ten seconds to put uh... so so after a whole bunch of overproduction logos

we you are really going to be So, after a whole bunch of ochre production logos, we... You are really going through the movie, huh? We get some narration from Samuel L. Jackson as Samuel L. Jackson, a narrator. We get a title card that says, Chapter 1, the hero narrated by Samuel L. Jackson. And at this point, you're probably like, oh, fuck, what did I sign up for? Because that's what I said. And then we have a scene where we have a random character being interviewed by a therapist. Played by a netbending.

Played by a netbending, thank you. And it's narrated by Samuel Jackson and it's very like, I guess like, fourth wall breaking, would he describe it? It's like, you think that this guy is gonna be the hero of the movie. Well guess what? That was bullshit. This guy's boring. Let's go to the psychiatrist. Maybe she's the hero of the movie. And no, she's not. We tricked you again.

He has this long model about like, when you go outside to smoke, you're not supposed to smoke, but it feels so good. So you still do it and your wife gets mad at you because you're smoking. And it's like, it's the movie is playing all these crappy fourth wall tricks that felt old 20 years ago and doing it and it's like, yeah, you think this is the hero of the movie, right? Real handsome, wrong, it's this one. It's like, the only reason I think is the hero of the movie is because you've presented him to me.

He's not like I picked about a lineup, it's like this guy should be the hero. Yeah, thanks for handing me this can of peanut brittle movie. Oh, there's snakes in it. Whoa, what's that? It's not like I asked you to give me a demanded can peanut brittle. And I'm finally getting the come-up bits that I deserve. But it really makes you think about preconceived notions, right, guys? About what brittle?

It's also the most like, I feel bad at this movie, this movie that like wants to deal in like so much tragedy as it goes on Do you do you think there is a candy company that yeah that I had to throw out all their cans of peanut brittle because they're like people They're taking up all the service ads. Hi. My name's Greg brittle My family's been making peanut brittle for generations. Now, it's come to my attention that a lot of people are worried about snakes these days. Well, the brittle promise, no snakes in our cans. As you can say, it's him walking the factory floor. Like, as you can see, we take great precautions to keep snakes out of our cans. We hire 900% local monguses as the ads ads go on, they get increasingly more desperate.

They don't even look like snakes. They're just springs with fabric over. Come on. This is dumb out real quick. We don't even sell our stuff in cans, really. Go to a zoo. And look at what the snakes look like. They're different.

Okay, one guy had a heart attack and died. Because he was surprised by I think jumping at it. But that's not our fault. And the guy who owns a novelty company and who lost his girlfriend to Greg Brittle years ago, finally, finally my revenge. Now, the movie finally settles on a hero, right? Oscar Isaac.

Yeah, yeah, Oscar Isaac plays a character wheel. One last thing about Peter Brittle. Yes, Dan. It's the only confectionery. And its name advertises the fact that it's riddled. I mean, I think here's my clear about that. Peanut butter is an old thing. And the idea that it was like, oh, this won't be hard to chew.

This will break apart easily. It's not a hard tack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're letting people know that they don't risk their teeth. Exactly. As opposed to a hard tack where you're like, right off the name, this is going to be hard and it's going to taste like a bunch of tax in your mouth. Like, is this Apple based dessert going to be hard to eat?

No, I think it's a crumble. Yeah. So, uh, so it, uh, so we have Oscar Isaac is, uh, jumps into frame just in time to distract in that, bending long enough for it to get run over by a bus. I mean, it's like run over slash it's like cartoony like she gets hit and you kind of expect to see her body fly through the air and bounce. And this is the first of many on screen deaths for women in this movie. If you are a woman in this movie, watch out.

The grim reaper is hanging over your head. But for now, we're just introduced to our hero. It turns the whole intro, turned out the intro was a screenplay being written by Oscar Isaac, who you know is a likable person because he is a belligerent drunk who lectures people about Bob Dylan

when they're just trying to do their job. Yeah, if you're a fan of Bob Dylan by the end of this movie, I don't think he will be anymore. Yeah, I turned, I turned to the person that I was watching the movie with, and I'm like, you know what, I like Bob Dylan just fine.

But if I never have to hear another person talk about what a fucking genius Bob Dylan is in my entire life, I will be happy. I feel like I'm not- You just lost Bob Dylan as a listener. The Jake of Dylan is like, fair, very fair. I'm not there. The movie about Bob Dylan that posits him as a kind of shape-shifting trickster spirit who has always been with us in America is less up its own ass about Bob Dylan than this movie.

So Stuart, what happens next? Why is Will a recommend? Elliot is chomping at that bit to try and do a flood somewhere. It's so hard. But I'm driving this car through. So we see Will now a bearded wreck of a man Wandering the streets of New York and it flashes back to time that he is spent with his wife played by Olivia Wild I think her characters what Annie Nancy Abby Abby cool

Abby normal they they have this very long conversation in the bed talking about Bob Dylan and then he And they smashed their dog named Fuckface affectionately. Like this is, I'm like, so it's this couple that's lying in bed talking about Bob Dylan. I'm like, I think I hate these people. And then they're like, oh, it's our dog, Fuckface. Hey, Fuckface is like, I hate these people. These people are terrible.

People are charmed by the fact that they have named their pet Fuckface. And then, what are whimsical pair? And then Olivia Wild climbs out of bed and reveals a giant pregnant belly, at which both characters are shocked that she's pregnant, which is part of a joke, but it's also like, wait a minute.

Like, this was meant to be a shock for the audience that she's pregnant. I don't know. No, it's like the audience is surprised and then they joke around that they're like, hey, wait a minute, are you pregnant? And it made me realize that like, or I'm not done that moment.

Throughout the movie, you'll see that affection is only ever expressed in this movie through kind of like joke bits. Like, there seems to be no way for people to show that they care about each other in this movie other than to have like running gag bits that they do. And it's like, look, I'm a comedy person.

I love my wife dearly. Sometimes we joke around. Other times, we just talk like regular people. Yeah, like you lie around in bed talking about Bob Dellan It's like, look, I'm a comedy person. I love my wife dearly. Sometimes we joke around. Other times we just talk like regular people. Yeah, like you lie around in bed talking about Bob Dylan and Hooba's tank. Yeah. Well, that's only because I'm trying to,

I'm trying to segue into do it like they do it like they do on the Discovery Channel. Yeah. That's the blowout gang, is it? I thought it was Hooba's tank. What does Hooba's tank do? I don't think so. No, tank. What a blowout. Oh, well, I think it? I thought it was Hoobas tank. What does Hoobas tank do? I think they're talking no.

Stank. Oh, hoobas. They literally stank Hoobas. Yeah. So what is a Hooba? It's like a Dr. Seuss tooba. Okay, it's a good explanation, yeah. Yeah, so the movie like to the point that the members of Hoobas tank in the Bloodhound

gang, I do not apologize for mixing up your tummy. We lost a couple more list of guys. The movie bounces back and forth. Will is seeing his therapist who was played by a nutbending, of course. He was briefly institutionalized. Yeah, we get a little info dump where his wife left him six months ago and he has spent half that time in an institution.

Q the song institutionalized by suicidal tendencies it's title time and so on. And then we, so we get little snippets of their relationship. We see them at like, this is Will and his wife. We see them at a college party. We see him asking his wife out for on a date in the most unbelievable fashion possible. Yeah, it's very unpleasant.

Like Oscar Isaacs, like, hey, the reason I haven't asked you out yet is, because when I do, it's gonna be forever. And I just want like, I won't be able to stop being with you and it has to be perfect. And I'm like, dude, this is the first date you're asking for. You are freaking this woman out. Well, they've been friends for a while

so she knows he's a crazy person, I guess. She's like, why haven't you asked me out yet, Will? He's like, because when I do, it's gonna be forever, babe. I love you so hard. And I just like, this love builds up in me, and it's just like forever and ever. And I just like, God, babe, I don't, like, I just, I just like can't handle it. I'm like, I'm like, creep, Oscar Isaac. I mean, everything he does in this movie is. If this speech was delivered by a silhouette in a Zales Diamond's commercial, I would be creeped. I mean, you'd be like, how's he talking?

He has no mouth. He's just a shadow. Well, that's a thing. You know, he jumped loose from his boy in this case, Peter Pan. And now he's proposing to other female. I mean, maybe he lost a shadow. Or the shadow did want to grow up and get married because it saw a sales commercial.

Yeah. Uh, uh, should you talk about Stuart about the flashback to his proposal when they are addressed as Pulp Fiction characters? I was, I was getting there. L.A.D. He just can't keep your foot off the gas on his episode. So yeah, so the movie bounces around back and forth from him in therapy to times in their life, including of course this costume party at college again where they're dressed up like the characters from Pulp Fiction, which is of course the confirmation, like Elliott said, that this is a student movie. This movie feels like a student film,

and as soon as it's like, then I'll have to pay obeisance at the altar of pulp fiction. So, all right, okay. And there's a yearly prophetic moment where he has to reenact the scene from pulp fiction where he brings Umatherman back to life by sticking Olivia Wilde with a fake syringe. And I'm like, oh, she's gonna die, isn't she?

Spoiler alert, she does. Can I mention one thing about that scene also? Yeah, okay. What's that? He proposes to her, and she tells him that this is me quoting, I think, because I've written it in quotes of my notes. It scares her how much you feel. Uh-huh. And she mentions that she, I think that she is not ready to be loved that much. And it's like, God damn it. Like everything about this is so student film. Like this is someone's college screenplay. Yeah, I mean And it's like, God damn it. Like everything about this is so student film. Like this is someone's college screenplay. Yeah, I mean, it's, and it's a way of trying to make his, like he's, he comes off to me as like a creepy pressuring

character. Yes. And the movie tries to present that as just like, like a charming thing. Like, oh, you're just a raw nerve in a cool, like a nice way. It's, it's one of many movies that doesn't seem to realize that the character it thinks is the hero is actually had a lot of things wrong about him. No offense or not no spoilers but we're here in Madison to talk about movie Venom and the

we've had him has another as a similar strange thing with the hero of the movie is not a good guy but there's another side character who is a very good guy and should be the hero of the movie. Yeah. And this feels like that except there are no other heroes except many Patanke and I guess as Oscar Isaac's dad. Yeah, I guess so that's fair. So the he doesn't do much other than have a beard and sit around and be cranky. Yeah, but he's made a Patanke and so of course you level.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. So the we get another flashback of Oscar Isaac and Olivia Wilde visiting Oscar Isaac's parents the day of the day from the previous flashback where they were in bed and there, Oscar Isaac's parents are played by Mandy Patinkin and Jean Smart. And you know what? It's nice to see Jean Smart around. Don't worry, she's not going to be in the movie long.

She is a woman in this movie, so she will need a tragic end. Yeah a tragic end. Yeah, you can basically start a ticking clock at this point. And they clearly ask our eyes experience are very excited about having a baby. They talk about how they prayed that he would meet a woman with dead parents, which is insane. But they wouldn't have to share the grandchild. But it's very important to know that like the stupid fucking Bob Dylan conversation and this lunch, this is all on quote, the day she left me. Like, you probably guessed what that having left means already, but we'll get to it.

Because we have to talk about Abby's backstory, right? Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. Well, what's Abby's backstory? Will tells us very quickly that Abby's parents died when she was young in a car crash that she witnessed. She was in the car and survived it and he goes into detail about how her dad was decavitated by the steering column in front of her eyes. This of course translates to her being given to the custody of Uncle Purve who molests her for years until she threatens to shoot him in the leg. Yeah, she shoots him in the leg.

So she gets a gun from as Will describes it some gang banger and shoots him in the leg and it's like movie, you did not get to throw all this shit at your character, just kind of brush it aside as if it's like a quirky back, like to describe it, when Will's like pretty nasty, huh? Sucks, huh? Pretty bad, it's like movie like don't stop doing this.

It's sad got to capitated and she got molested for several years. Like this is not, like you can't do this to like this movie does not deserve this. No, and the movie is not impressing us by how hardcore it is. Yeah. I'm not like, whoa, this movie means business. Does it start out with this fucking jazzy Sam L Jackson narration? Like, oh, by the way, Sam L Jackson never comes back in the movie. Yeah. The, they could only book him for an hour right now.

I mean, don't you see him on screen when they're watching bolt fiction at one point? Oh, by the way, Samuel Jackson never comes back in the movie. Yeah. They could only book him for an hour, right? I mean, don't you see him on screen when they're watching Pulp Fiction at one point? Yeah, I think you're right. I guess so. The thing about this kind of tragedy porn is that it doesn't actually have the courage to, like, not saying that this is a movie that should show a guy getting decapitated and squirting blood

all over his daughter or something, but like, you can't just talk about, you don't get credit for talking about how to be a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than a little bit more than like any movie where there's like this girl, or this girl's fucked up, and that means that translates as a zest for life, which exists to pull the male hero out of his funk. And it's like, I'm not a big fan of the trope and stories and movies where it's like, all these terrible things happen to this woman, and that's why now she's a free spirit. She's kind of a wounded bird. And you know what, she's just trying to fly free

on those broken wings, she's trying to take those broken wings and learn to fly again. Dan take it. I can't afford to use this song Do we pay for the songs? You couldn't afford the cost to your soul. So wait, wait, what have I been doing with all this money? The envelope that says songs on the dam. What happens to it? I used to go $100, but it's not my envelope. I've been a buzzer on it for a while. Okay.

I feed the cat. It's not even, is it right? You gotta feed the cat boys. It's really, it's just like gross. So she is moved on from all this trauma and she is the brightest and smartest student in her school and she's a literature major and she has a very specific thesis

that she's working on. So stupid. It's so stupid. Spoiler, flash forward, she gets a bad grade out of thesis because it's not about literature, Stuart. What is the thesis about? Her thesis is,

it's, she's obsessed with the idea of the unreliable narrator wait hold on earlier in the movie were we kind of dealt with a series of unreliable narrators from Sanlele Jackson to Oscar Isaac and on wait a minute this movie's great I just realized the way it comments on itself the way it tells you what it's doing

while it's doing it I'm amazing it's I didn't realize that there were so many layers to this movie. And the other thesis is, isn't life itself the original unreliable narrator? Yeah, and that's the moment that I flunked around school, while I was watching the movie. But she's like, she's like, life is the unreliable narrator,

because you never know what's gonna happen. And it's like, that's not what an unreliable narrator is. Like, although her being like, isn't life the unreliable narrator, it does fit well with our fake news world that we live in, where you kind of believe whatever facts you want to believe in. So maybe she was just ahead of her time, you know? And it's, it's kind of weird because there's really not that much, uh, there's not that much unreliable narration in this movie in a way.

Like, you have a bunch of different narrators that kind of lie to you, but there's not like, I, I guess it's, it's not like multiple people seeing. much unreliable narration in this movie in a way. You have a bunch of different narrators that kind of lie to you, but there's not like, I guess it's not like multiple people seeing. It's not Roshama. It's not like, or it's not even usual suspect where you're like, oh, all the stuff I saw before is in a different light now that I know this information. It's not hero featuring Jet Li. But it's like, yeah, it's right.

She's also like so fucking excited that she got her thesis idea. She comes in in a whirlwind, like, declining to the entire room. Like, Asuka, as it can also, like, his buddies are just hanging out, like, I guess also fascinated with what she's saying. And you're right. She needs a better friend circle to be like, calm down, dude.

Well, I've never seen anyone so fucking excited about a thesis idea. She's just full of life and vim and vickner as anyone who had suffered years of abuse would be. Anytime I've, anytime I feel like I've cracked that very difficult role-playing adventure I've been trying to write and I run up and tell my wife, she doesn't see very excited.

I mean, that happens to me where I'll be like, I figured this thing out and I wanna tell somebody and they'll be like, all right. Like the time I hugged my cleaning lady because I beat a very difficult boss in the video game Bloodborne. Just as an ostrich, do like a, like a, like a, a double take, respite soda.

No, no, like a beer, like a keg stand after that or something like that. It's college. It's college, dude. Immediately after she leaves, like that's kind of a good joke. She's like so excited about her thesis. And he's like, well, back to my cake strand. But also like how much?

Yeah, he's got some artwork to do, it's a mill the afternoon. She's had a tough life. But what kind of privilege is it where you're like, my thesis for my literature class is going to be this weird philosophical statement that has nothing to do with literature? Guys, I don't have to play by the rules. But anyway, so, and Will says to a therapist, maybe he's an unreliable narrator. And we're like, wait, wait a minute. Am I supposed

to believe anything I've seen before? Is this whole thing just a book that somebody else is writing? I was so ready for it for it right now to be like, and cut, and they're on the set of the TV show life itself. And like it turns out, one of them is an actor and they go off and have their own adventure or whatever. Oh man, that would have been crazy. Yeah. It's like a real black mirror, right Dan? I don't think that's what black mirrors like. And then like he gets involved in a murder,

but I was like, what do I do? And it turns out the whole thing is being dreamed by Cthulhu and his house at Raleia, while he waits dead dreaming. Yeah. Until the star is aligned. Yeah, and then there's an anime sequence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome.

Okay, what happens next, too, Bob? So, we flash back to Will in the therapist's office. He is asked to talk about the day that his wife left him. He talks about having spoken with his wife since he got out of the institution, which is basically just him freaking out. He's like, I'll go back to me, blah, blah, miss you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And a lot of these flashbacks

and a lot of the future flashbacks we're going to see, we actually have the characters that are having the conversation like walk through the whole thing. Like it's a memory palace. It's pretty great. And I always look wonder the logic of that sort of thing, because like in that binningnings there, like seeing the memory

with Oscar Isaac, and I'm like, is he describing like everything so perfectly? Like, you've seen an exception, do you? You don't have to, you just got to do the broad strokes. Well, even the fact that he's walking through a memory where he's seeing himself, I'm like, how about you guys, but my memory does not usually involve a vision of me, because unless I'm not

looking in a mirror constantly, my memory's involved my point of view on the... You're not vanity smurf. I mean, I'm an enemy smurf on that bookworm one that has the glasses. What's his name? A pedantic smurf. He's the one that someone's like,

I smurf over the smurf. I'm feeling smurfy and pedant is like, actually you're feeling smurf-o. Smurfy is a misnomer. But it's like... was like, actually, you're feeling smurf-o. Smurf-y is a misnomer. But it's like, it's the drama, melodrama version of what we've talked about many times before, those compilation movies, they show on cinematics where it's like, well, I heard a story

about my friend and her boyfriend and it just cuts to a sexy and it's like, sort of the person describing the sexy and the blue. And they're also just sort of just having sex like it's not really a story. I mean I guess there's a beginning in the middle of the end so there's a climax. Oh, that's a falling action. Oh my god. Not enough rising action afterwards.

I guess what I'm saying. I was just going to turn into a Fox studio audience from the 90s. Ow! I guess because we're seeing an apple game just walked in. Here's the thing, guys, isn't sex the ultimate unreliable narrator? I'm going to need to see your thesis. So wait, are there's got to be some porn called defending her thesis or something like that? I'm gonna need to see your thesis. No. No. So we see- So wait, there's gotta be some porn call like defending her thesis or something like that.

I mean, I could imagine. I don't know, Dan, quit. I'll quickly- I'll quickly- You're already on porn now, but type it into the- Go to your favorite section. Okay. The-

Favorite section. PHD porn. Go to the employee recommendations. Do they have that? Yeah, with a little description about why they like it so much. This bread says this one was super hot. Yeah, I mean, Brad Brad Brad is never let me ride penis to a jack gillet. And somehow infinite jest is also on the shelf of this employee recommendations.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. I'll read it someday. Yeah. I get you like good books. Cool. The so we see a continuation of the day where Will and Abby met with spent some time with Will's parents. And then they're walking down a familiar New York street, a street that was featured in the earlier nested sequence. Uh-huh. So I weren't at Benning got hit by the bus. Uh-huh. But this time, a different lady, Abby gets hit by a bus.

Uh, wait a minute. His wife didn't leave him. She didn't leave him. She left this earth, dude. Uh, by the way, we'll find out another reason she gets hit by the bus later, but she partially gets hit by the bus because she's backing into the intersection while talking to her. Well talking about she came up with the perfect name for their daughter. Yeah.

Uh-huh. What's that? Uh, who's the human being that gets talked about in this movie as if they are a semi-divine presence? Oh, so they named the child Roberta? What? For Bob. Oh, I see.

Yeah. No, no, they named the child fuckface after their dog. Oh, wow. No, she's like, she's like, I got. Yeah, no, no, they named the child fuckface after their dog. Oh, wow. No, she's like, she's like, I got the perfect name. She did Garth and his spirit this movie. I mean, a lot of women do get killed in terrible ways. That's true. So it's possibly, she goes, she wants to name their daughter Dylan.

But before he can tell her, that's her. That's Dylan Thomas. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, after Steve Dylan, artist of preacher written by Garth Dennis. Before he can say, please don't name my daughter after this musician you can't keep talking about, the bus hits her. The bus hits her and leaving a result that is described later in the movie

by a different narrator, it evicerates her, which is another time where this movie is like, how grisly can we describe this horrible thing that's happening? Especially since as we learn, their daughter survived the bus accident. Yeah. And was born perfectly healthy. So like, maybe it's just that the ultimate airbag is to be inside of a human being.

I don't know, to have the cushioning of a human body around you. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to, I'm not going to argue the science of this situation. No, but I have to assume that the bus hit her, her body splattered into pieces and the baby going, whew, flew through the air, landing in her father's arms and he said, I'm not ready to be a dad yet. And will is, how does Will react to this revelation? The doctor saying, face it will. Yeah, that's it.

Like, dad and you have a baby. Yeah, like, he, and Will hasn't seen his newborn daughter yet. He'd spend the institution and crazy in coffee shops. So his reaction is to say, I don't wanna be here anymore and then he pulls out a gun and shoots himself in the head. Which the movie is primed us to believe is just another fake out, but it is not.

No. Oscar Isaac has gone from the movie. The man that all the ads would have suggested is the hero of the film. And the narrator has suggested that is gone. Yeah. So cue another title card. What happens next?

What chapter is it? We're on chapter two, Dylan Dempsey. And we see basically an episode of a series of unfortunate events. As everyone she loves dies whenever it other than. Yeah, which is actually appropriate. That's an appropriate joke because Dylan Dempsey is, you know, two Ds back to back. What's that type of a iteration?

Thank you. It's an alliteration, which is something, which is a device season series of unfortunate events. So I'm smart. Yeah, say what happens because I have a point I want to make up with. So at this point, they kind of rush over their new daughter's childhood, where she lives with her grandparents.

Well, grandparent because they quickly mention how Jean Smart's character dies. And then they also talk about how a very important person dies, their dog fuck face. It's like she lost her grandmother and then her best friend. Do we see her saying goodbye to her grandmother? No, we see her saying goodbye to the dog. And the implication is that the death of the dog was,

at the same level as the death of the grandmother, or maybe more important, and it's like, come on, movie, like, what are you doing? Come on. And then we get a couple of, then we get a scene between grandpa and Mandy Patenkin with of very white snowy beard. Don't worry, it gets gets wider and snowy.

I'm telling you I'm Santa Patanquin. Between this little girl and Manny Patanquin where they each speak very eloquently about how they're feeling, but it turns out that's all just a fake out. That's what they should be saying, but instead they're like, how you do it? Oh, I'm good, you know. Yeah, and the girl has a speech about how she's so much tragedy has been laid on her feet and now, and on her back and now what she's gonna live life to the fullest. Like a series of unfortunate events.

I mean, Dicken has that speech about like, I love you so much, I'm never gonna let anything ever happen to you again blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but you're right, it's just another F out of fake out that is. I had a question, guys. Yeah. But you're right, it's just another F out of fake out that is. I had a question guys. Do you think there are any elderly people who went to a matinee showing in New York of Mandy thinking it was a movie about Mandy.

I mean, I wore about the song. Yeah, they're like faces melted off middle. How are we through them as Nicholas Cage stairs and horror after his wife's death at the Chatter Goblin ad, they were like, when is he gonna sing finishing the hat? So we then get a flash forward where we watch this character Dylan grow up until she is played by actress Olivia Cook, another Olivia. And at this point, she's now like a super cool punk rocker.

She's got a neck tattoo. She's got dyed red hair. I love it. She smokes cigarettes. The way you know she's a 21st birthday. The way you know she's a bad girl with who doesn't care about the rules is she smokes a cigarette in front of her grandpa. She's, I don't know whether they have like banding, but seconder have like a little conversation. That's not really important, but they go out and- Can they do their little joke routine where they each take a drink and go, pfft, which they've been doing since

she was a little girl? That's how you know they're the same characters. I didn't want to point it because this is an adaptation of the story, all you zombies, where someone travels through time to be their own father, mother, and self. But now she's now the front person for a band and she's what's the name of the band? I fucking forget.

PB and J because they talk about peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a bunch in this movie. Okay. So, uh, and they, and they have a pile of peanut butter, jelly sandwiches on a tray and anyone can take the performance. It sounds like a traditional New York City, I guess the way you offered free pizza to anyone who came to your company show. Because otherwise nobody would show up.

So the implications of this is not a popular band. Yeah, but I was gonna say she's the front woman and she sings, of course, a Bob Dylan song. Which she starts out just like playing the piano and she's got a, yeah. And you're like, oh, there's a nice little, there's a nice little piano song. Get a nice voice.

And then it turns into this screaming punk song. And she's like a terrible voice for punk singing. Yeah, like a Lapeas punk song. Yeah. It's weird. I don't know about you guys, but like, if my parents were really into Bob Dylan and I grew up to be like a punk,

I would not be into fucking Bob Dylan. Well, it's like, I could see it if she's like, if the performance was her being like, fuck you mom and dad for disappearing. I hate Bob Dylan, I'm gonna fuck up his song to get back at you. Like I could see if she was like, this is a performance piece where I'm gonna ruin

a Bob Dylan song, but that's impossible. Bob Dylan is the love and the light of the universe. He's the soul of the center of the galaxy. I just say, earlier, take your hands off me. Guys, maybe we should just kind of sit back, spark up, and listen to the words of America's premiere poet. Humanity is premiere poet. Thank you.

Nobel Prize winner Bob Robert Dylan. What was his last name? Some Jewish name anyway. The so like Konigsberger, Jacob Spurder. So our new hero gets in a fight by the PB&J station with a woman who is filming her on a phone for some reason. She's like, so Dylan is making out with some guy. And this woman is shooting it on a phone.

And she's like, you take pictures of me and beats her up. And it's like, so is this our hero? Like what is going on? And also like, why are you filming her? It's not cool to film her, but like it's an extreme overreaction. She like breaks the woman's phone and then sucker punches her and sees the shit out of her.

And the woman is getting such glit, like I would expect, if these characters were 14 years old, or 15, and she'd be filming our phone, I'm like, I get it, like, but they're in their 20s. So like, if someone's making out in a corner, who cares, like, why are you not going to make out somewhere, like, well, I don't get it, you know? Yeah, it doesn't seem like the right, like, you're in a corner who cares? Like, why are you not going to make out somewhere? Like, well, I don't get it, you know? Yeah, it doesn't seem like the right, like,

you're at a rock club. People should be making out in the corner, like the dark corners of that place. Unless there's a scene that got cut out where she's like, one more show grandpa, and then I'm entering the conference. And so this person is like, this is good black material.

I'll show this to the mother superior that she was making out with that. That's not, that's not. It's a very complicated, I was like, maybe that guy's somebody else's boyfriend or something. I mean, that's a possible reason too. No, let's make it more complicated. So she beats a lady. Dylan Wanderer's the street's shop on PBNJ before she ends at a park bench at a

classic New York walking food, beat a butter and jelly sandwich. She ends at a park bench at a very familiar New York intersection. Oh, that's right. It's across the street from the Ghostbusters house. JK, JK, it's the place where her mom died. So she gets to see her parents had that one last interaction while she got to them.

She has a dream. She has a little vision and she sees a magical little boy standing in the front of the bus that hits her mom and then That's the end of that scene. Yeah, this character gets the shortest script of any character in the movie Dylan Yeah, yeah, she's a woman she exists only to die or to give meaning to the life of the man in the movie Does guess who we switch up to next we go to chapter three the Gonzalez family? That's right this character character. So the movie has already shown that it, that a movie made by I assume a sort of upper middle class white

man American. Doesn't really know what it's like to live in America as a person, as a white person. So it's time to go to an Andalusian olive farm. Time to tell the story of a family of olive pickers in Andalusia. And our man, Tony B. Antonio Banderis, he has a looking, kind like Mandy Patinkin. It was a little confusing. He looks sharp though. I mean, he's a handsome man. Oh my God. Yeah, he looks like a fucking comfort daddy.

I mean, compare him to in the haywire. He has a similar beard. He's not as good as shape. And here he looks like a fucking comfort daddy. I mean, compare him to in the haywire. He has a similar beard. He's not as good as shape. And here he looks, he's doing great. Yeah, man, I can't get enough. And Tony, to be honest, we watched an interview with the vampire not that long ago and watching this, it's like, I wouldn't think as much time had passed

as has between that and this. So, entertainment or it looks great. Well, that's when you're a child of the night, things change differently. Yeah, and the rhythm of the night, you looks great. Well, that's when you're a child of the night, things change, change differently. Yeah. And the rhythm of the night. Yeah. So we are introduced to two characters at this point. We have Antonio Banderis, whose name is, I don't remember. Do I have it anywhere? He's the boss. He's the boss of it. He owns an olive farm. He owns an olive farm and he has an interview with one of his laborers named Javier who seems kind of quiet and contemplative and he invites

He invites his worker and do his sprawling home Yeah, and he looks amazing like a comfort daddy and has this conversation with him telling him about his His own personal history about how he comes from a his own personal history about how he comes from a complicated to be honest I kind of zone down. It was about yeah, his like dad was a bastard and his mom was like from Spain. Was Italian. Yeah, that was. Oh no, oh no. That was Italian. As mom was from Spain, I think. I know. I think it's the other way around that I think you're right. I remember something about drinking olive oil, but the mom was the one who brought the Spanish olive oil. No, no, the dad would send it back to them. What? No, no, I'm thinking of the other. No, no, the mom was the one who brought the Spanish olive oil. No, no, the dad would send it back to them.

What? No, no, I'm thinking of the other thing. No, no, the mom was the one who looked at the whole thing. The dad was the faster, the mom was the one he liked. That's true. That's why he went and he got to the olive oil business. The point is, the whole point is that, this is a long fucking monologue that has no bearing

on the rest of the movie. And would be the first thing I cut from this film. Once again, it's another instance in the movie. António Mineras was like, everyone gets a scene in which a woman is shit upon by a man in some way. Why don't I get to do that? What if I gave you a monologue about how your mom

who was a saint was really treated poorly to the whole of all your dad? Excellent. So we see these two men are very different. Antonio Mader-Ears talks a lot. Javier is very quiet. He whistles just for himself. And his big mouth is only for the other men.

He makes a point to his boss that he's like, what is inside that is for me. You know, you do not get that. I will give you my work, but what makes me happy is my man. And to make you happy. I like this new character. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, Dan, let's give it going. So how do you feel about, I like the matter. I like this new character. Yeah, Dan, let's give it a go. And so how do you feel about the DC universe? That was a for me. The man is for you. Those are not for the critics. What about like the prequels? Those are not for me. But there's whole the internment.

And it's like, let me tell you this, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh but as we learn, he's the kind of an idiot. He's the kind of a moron. Yeah, we'll go on debt later. So the region arrangement, Antonio Banderis, wants Javier to be the new foreman and run the farm because he picks olives with his hands instead of a rake. And he will have, he will let him live in this nice house and he will give him a significant raise. But, Javier, make sure that Antonio, that he, that's it. That's, it's a business arrangement.

I won't be your friend. I'm not going to be your friend. This is, we're going to keep things cool and profess, right? Well, I don't think that's going to work out. Uh, he's like, I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to pick olives. Now, as you would imagine, it immediately then cuts to a flashback where Olivia Wilde's character Abby is working on her thesis again.

And they reveal that she fails her thesis. But also the guy who failed her is a jerk. So what does he know? So we then go back to Havier. He has just gotten this huge raise in this new house. And he goes to visit his girlfriend. And the movie gives us a little bit of a Fake out because he's approaching a table full of women and it's like no no no He's actually in love with this other beautiful woman who's working as a waitress. Can you imagine?

And luckily she spills everything so you're like she like clumsily drop stuff. So you're like oh she's attainable She sometimes is clumsy. Yeah. The gravity still has some effect on her. So even though she is incredibly gorgeous, she is in some way different from this other table of beautiful women. And it's also one of things that's like,

it's the fake out is like, oh, he must be with one of those beautiful stylish women. Nope, with this beautiful waitress. And it's like, he is an olive picker. Like the idea that he would be going to be like an olive picker. He's an olive farm foreman. But we didn't know that,

she did know that yet. So the idea that like, no, no, no. He just cares for this humble waitress. Who again is beautiful? Yeah, so they, what they, uh, does he propose? They agreed to be together forever. And they celebrate by cloning around the fountain.

They celebrate by cloning around the fountain, they celebrate by clowning around the fountain, which feels like that was the only place they could shoot in that town. It's much like to skip ahead. There's a scene where these characters go on a vacation in New York, and it's like, OK, so you had half a day to shoot around the south end of Central Park. That's all they do and see.

But I wonder if it's like, it's like, we must express our love and our joy in the only way that we can here in Spain by re-enacting the opening of friends. So we get like a series of montages of them living in this big house and we see them get married, we see her Isabella get pregnant, we see them have a child, and then unfortunately Tony Beak comes back into the picture and starts creeping on his wife. So how are your things?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like, he's been pretty creepy, dude. He's being a little creepy. But this is the one instance where the things that he's doing, he's doing things that- He's like, I have so much, but there's only one thing I don't have. And like, Archie's his eyebrows. But what he's really getting at it,

is he doesn't have a family. And the relationship he really starts building is with Javier's son. Yeah, Rigo. Yeah, and it's not like a, which one of these things where, at first I think you're seeing it a little bit through Javier's eyes

and it's like, oh, what's he doing? But as the movie goes on, it's clear like, oh no, Antonio Baderos is a very good man. And like, he just, he's sad that he doesn't have a family and Javier continues to shut him out for almost, because of his own jealousy, which is the movie's point. It's not the movies on Javier's side,

but at the same time, it's like movie, like, come on. Like just, can these characters just like get it together? You know? Yeah, they put a lot of effort into this one. So this inspires them to go on a New York vacation. Antonio Baderos gives Rodrigo the little boy a globe and Javier palms the globe in one hand, which is amazing. He's got this big olive picking hands.

And you would think you would crush the olives. And he's like, I'm kicking you upstairs because you have failed. You like, I'm promoting you through in confidence. You'd crush all the olives. So I've got to put you somewhere you can't do any damage and he goes, no no no no gifts for my son and it's like at that point I'd like I'm just so turned against him because I'm like if someone gets wants to give my kid a gift great yeah I don't have to buy him a present you're gonna do it wonderful I don't know I mean the I my way my my my only defensive have you in this moment is that he kind of made

it clear that he wanted to keep things kind of professional. That's true. I'll give you that. And Tony B doesn't want that. And then narrator, who at this point we don't know who the new narrator is, the non-Sam Jackson narrator, but the narrator says like, oh, he, like, what's all the pictures name again? Which one? The alpha figure.

Javier, yeah. Javier, though, was not a stupid man. So he started planning a vacation. Like, he seems that Antonio Benderes has placed dreams in Rodriguez head of Golden New York. So, Javier is like, I can take you to New York. So, they go to New York and they have a whirlwind time through part of Central Park. They literally is a shot of them sitting to have a caricature drawn of them. Oh, so they went for the real tourists. Like these characters are not cool.

Wow. They're not investigating the underground theater scene, other in New York. They take a sightseeing bus, which unfortunately is the same bus. You got it. It runs over a live, you know, why? Why does the driver not see a live-year wild backing into the street? Is it because the little kid's like, he's an agent of chaos and he's like, final destinationing this shit?

He walks down the vile thing a lot to everybody and he's an a lot to the driver and the driver's like, oh, hello, little boy. And like, turns away from the street for a very long time. For a long time. And Havi's like, don't talk to the driver. It says so on the sign right there. And so this kid is a murderer. I mean, that's not what I'd say that,

but he is as a man slaughterer probably. He is an agent of chaos that he has destroyed his own family. He's destroyed the relationship between his dad and his dad's boss. And now, of course, the life of Olivia Wilde. And it also kind of destroys his life for a little while. It like severely traumatizes him. He can't sleep. His incessant crying makes his turn to dad

into like a crazy demon drum. Yep. Uh, where we see, yeah, we get a little montage of Javier and Isabella's relationship deteriorating rapidly. And it's a lot of like sitting at a table, scowling at each other, and then one of them making a mark in the other one like slamming a glass against the table, you know. Yeah, I mean, still, they still got a pretty nice house.

I mean, one crying kid. It needs a big house. Get a bedroom on the other side of that huge house. No, it's yeah. I'm speaking as someone who takes them on those olives, dig them in your ears. Yeah. That's what God made them for. Yeah, that's why they're

so shaped that way. Delicious. I mean, then all of the pit in it is God saying, put something inside of another thing. Oh, okay. Put this in your ear the way I put the pit in the olive. That's the horrible of the olive. Yeah. And God, you know God isn't heaven right now. He's like, I tell you humans just a few things and I try to be so clear. My whole gospel is about putting all of his new ears and no one's figured it out yet. So at this point, Antonio Banderer shows back up and he helps Rigo go to like kind of an expensive therapy to help him get over his trauma. Unfortunately. And this allows him to weasel his way back. Yeah, he just, he, it's, you know, it's that little crack that he just prize open.

And this, things come to a head eventually. Javier's like, you know, clearly you want to be with my wife, you lover and he's like, I totally do lover. And he's like, okay, they're your family now, dude. He does. And Javier abandons his family. Yeah, and he, he's like, you like, he tells his wife, he's like,

yeah, I got a job as a mechanic so you can stay here with Antonio Banderis forever and she's like, that's crazy. Yeah, I'm just like, I kind of want you to stay. Yeah, my husband's with me. I love it. He's a father of my child, why are you leaving? Yeah, there's the thing about Javier

and I couldn't tell if this was offensive or not. Is it's the idea of like the humble, simple, has into works with his hands and the soil, and he just has his principles they lives by, and he may not be a school smart man. He has his life on her, but it's taken to such a crazy degree of like, like just him being dumb,

and like, can you not see how it's actually going on around? What he's like, I took a job as a mechanic now he can leave and you want him to deal with me and his wife is like I'd rather you stay and not drink anymore like that's like you it's the problem is not you so in total bandarist I guess Mary's this woman who now is husbandless and we get chapter four Rod Riego Gonzalez where we get chapter four, Rod Rigo Gonzales. Where we get another fast forward, Rigo is now a grown up college aide. Well, dude, we see him like running and there's like a series of dissolves

as he gets older. And I, at this point in the movie, I said, wouldn't it be crazy if at the end of the series of dissolves, he's oscarizing. And you're like, wait a minute, movie. That doesn't make any sense at all. This is an inconsistent timeline. How does this line up? And then what,'re like, wait a minute, movie. That doesn't make any sense at all. It's just an inconsistent timeline.

How do this light up? And then when he shoots himself in the head, actually, Doc Brown shows over the last minute and sends him back in time. Yeah, and while he keeps running, and eventually he's an old man with a cane, and you're like four legs, two legs, three legs. Now we can save thieves from the swings. Is running and running until it gets to the flash is

time-tread mill. It's just really support all through space. But it is so we get we at the I was thinking I was thinking a similar thing where I'm like, how long is it even running for? So the this is the point where the movie is like, I don't feel like we've touched all the tragedy bases. Let's give this mom cancer. So Isabella, yes, is sick. She's got cancer, but she has age very well.

I mean, time hasn't stopped. Oh, I mean, what's amazing is that a few of the characters age purely by being themselves, but like they get sick. So like, they don't really age her so much as they make her look sick. Like Mandy Patanquin is roughly the same age throughout the entire 21 years of his granddaughter's life. He just dies his hair, whiter.

He's like, I can't let the humans know that I am an eternal. So wait until it makes sense for this character to die so that I can shave my beard and start my new life as Randy Patanquin, a race car driver. So he he's excited. He's been accepted to college at NYU. I'm assuming. Well, he just has to be accepted to the university and I guess he goes to NYU as a as a transfer student. Yeah. And his now that that's the most important detail of the movie. Uh, his mother, despite being sick, she makes her son leave. Um, and he heads off to New York City.

Well, he, she eventually makes him leave. He sticks around for a while. Uh, spoiler later on, he meets, um, what's her face? Dylan. And like, he meets her on the night of her 21st birthday. And he was like, what, like eight or 10 at the time of the bus crash. So like he deferred school for nearly a decade to make these timelines. Well, maybe he had some military service in there, I don't know.

I don't think he was eight or 10. And he was like six or seven. Yeah, I mean, I don't know about you. I don't know about you. I don't know about you. You're like, he was clearly 17 years old. I was walking down the bus saying, you're not walking. Yeah, nobody like cut his finger

and count on the rings or anything. He differs for a fair amount of time. And like the movie is, it's hard to tell like how much time is supposed to be a half past. It's a very elastic timeline. Yeah. But he goes to college and of course, and he excels.

Top student on the track team. Most important thing though, he meets the best character in the movie. That's right. Sherry Dixstein. Sherry Dixstein is this like broadly drawn, loud, like broadly. You think broadly drawn, loud college girl, but you know what? This is an injection of life and character that this movie so desperately requires. This is only one thing wrong with this character.

Yes. That is her name is Sherry Dixiein, and she is the most gentile-looking person they could have cast. And I'm assuming that they wanted to go for maximum contrast with Rodrigo, who he's Spanish, his skin is slightly darker, he has dark hair. He's kind of quiet. And he's quiet. So they went with like a loud blonde girl who like a very, she looks Midwestern.

She does not look like, but her name is Sherry Dixteen from Long Island. And she's clearly supposed to be like an upper class like Jewish rich kid who goes to school and is dating this guy, maybe more for the life experience than anything else. Yeah, and he like, and he goes back to visit his mom and he tells her, he tells his mom about her.

We can't really say much about her that she's loud. I'm like, Hell yeah, she's loud. She's like, she comes from a magical place called Long Gailands. That's how she pronounces it. Yeah, she says Long Gailands. She is such a character character and so aggressively unpleasant that you're like, these are not dates. No, never. I don't know how to eat meat. And it's one of those things where it's like, in any other movie, I would be like, I'm kind of offended by this character. She's so broadly drawn.

She's so abrasive. She's so thin. But in this movie, like Stuart St. Mark, oh yeah, give me the energy, give me the life. And actress is like playing her to the hill. And you know what, Rigo's kind of feeling the same way as Dan, because he's about to break up with her until she tells him I'm pregnant.

What, whoa? She doesn't super cash. Yeah, so she doesn't super cash. She plays it off, you know, perfectly. They're walking out of the street. They go for dinner. Rigo's in his head. He's like, what am I going to do?

There's a moment where she... Well, there's a moment where she... They're walking down the street. There's a brief moment where a car's about to hit her and I'm like, oh, that's what's gonna happen. I'm sure of it. But then, just fake out, he pulls right out of the way the car.

She never even notices, because she's so busy being like, should I get in the portion? Where should I get my abortion? What abortion should I get? Yeah, she's laying it on real facts. He saves the cat in this case, or Eddie proves this is value. So they go to brunch and she Finally drops the hammer April fools bitch

So I see only have three options one have it to get an abortion or this is the most amazing April fools joke ever bitch And he's like okay Cass April fools She's like she has to explain the concept of April fools So it was like movie, why did you, and you know, it's the end of her time in the movie. I feel bad that Sherry Dixtein meant like, she put so much effort into this performance.

I was shocked as everyone that this was in April Fool's. This is the one, this is the one to pay off like misdirect that actually works in the movie. And it works because she is so over the top already talking about this pregnancy that I was like, I was like, how could she be so casual about this? Oh, I see. So what, like, and then of course he dumps her

because how could you not? So the narrator had previously made us believe that this was the most important day in Rodrigo's life. And we assumed it was because he found out he was a father that it's not the case, it's because his mom died. Oh, it's not the only reason, as we see it. There's nothing but her mom dies.

And as his mom is dying, and Tony Medares was like, I've got a special surprise for you. Audience, show her what she's won and who should walk out, not looking like he's aged either. Javier. The man who abandoned her 10 years earlier.

And this infuriated my movie watching pal, she was like, what, we're supposed to believe this is a fucking good guy because he comes back when she's dying. And he abandoned her. Yeah, it's crazy. And he comes over and they hold hands and they're smiling at each other like, good to see a buddy. But hey, remember all those times we shared, it's great.

What do you want up to, Diana Cancer? Cool. It's been a while. And so we learned that Antoni Menderes has for years been writing letters to Javier. Which feels like a huge betrayal. Yeah, a little bit. Because he's giving updates to the man that abandoned his family.

And I have to assume that at a certain point, he stops asking him to come back in the letters and the letters to come really perfunctory. And it's like, dear Javier, hope you're doing good at that mechanics garage or whatever Rodney goes doing great, Isabel's doing great, still won't sleep with me,

she says she'll never love me the way that she loved you. Hey, so anyway, peace out, cool. The olives are doing good. I notice you never ask about them. Yeah. Do you think there's this they cut a scene where Antony Mineras has to break the news to the olives that Javier is going? You know, they just all fall off the tree in the morning. I won't be here to stick you in your ears, his ears anymore. Yep. So at this point, this is where we realize

that this was all just a long episode of how I met your mother Because Rigo goes jogging and he bumps into I guess a newly awoken Dylan Themse you was on the death on the bench where she went to and had this dream vision of her mother's death We did a very eventful day for Roger Rigo He he breaks up with his girlfriend, his mom dies, and he meets his future wife. Most important thing is life. Man, that's got to make, like, in their future life, that day's got to be a rough one. That's a rough anniversary to celebrate.

Yeah, that's true. It's a bittersweet. This also raises the question. So Dylan, kind of it seems sort of, I think there's a hint that she recognizes him from her dream vision of seeing him as a boy in the bus when Abby died. And it's like, so did she get so mad and drunk that she tapped into the collective memory of the universe at that point? Is it, did she eat that herb that lets her go to where her Will Condon ancestors live in the afterlife so she could talk to him about what happens? She probably did that.

They shouldn't have cut out that scene because Blight Panther was huge. If they could tie this into the Blight Panther universe. Yeah. So, and guys, then the real hammer drops guys, we find out this was all a book. Yeah. It's a memoir called Life itself written by

and being read out loud at a bookstore, at a surprisingly well attended bookstore reading considering the quality of the material. So it's, yeah, so we're now in a chapter five, we're in the home stretch, guys. I don't know what the title is because I was so angrily scrolled these notes at this point. Can I give you the two crazy things about this reveal? Okay, yeah, yeah. Number one, the woman, it's the daughter of Rodrigo Indoen, who wrote this reveal. Okay, yeah, yeah. Number one, the woman, it's the daughter of Rodrigo Andilin, who wrote this memoir, and she's like, and they didn't spend a night

apart for the next 42 years. First off, that is bonkers. They just met. They're going to spend the next night together too. Yeah, but also like for 42 years, like no one went someplace for a night without the other person. It really hurt both their careers because they could not do business trips. It's especially combo gay considering he is family on another continent. They had to travel together all the time.

That is 100% insane. But number two, depending on when the movie starts. Okay, this woman is either giving this book thing, 42 years in the future. Or now book thing 42 years in the future or now or 63 years 21 years That Dylan was yes, so like there should be fucking like space boots That's what's my sweet the movie is it this movie starting from Abby as a girl through her granddaughter as an adult

movie all seems to take place in the year 2017. And so it's like, everyone, it's like an- There should be bookstores anymore. Everyone should be reading on their fucking brain scan. Because then I started thinking, so if that's now, was the rest of the movie taking place in the 1970s, because they dressed up as pulp fiction. So maybe they're supposed to be in college in the 90s,

but everything else about it looks just like right now. But, but then she would still be in the 2030s. And she's rating this. For only the moments where it's explicitly meant to be a flashback, that's the only time when we get the feeling like something takes place in the past. So it like all takes place in this like nether constant world that seems terrifying

because I don't want to be trapped in fucking 2018. No, that would mean terrible. It's like the worst thing ever. Like that's the true tragedy in this movie. There was some kind of Kurt Vonnegut style time quake and Trump remains president for the next hundred years or something. Like it's such a weird, it's a weird show and he does it so that to keep you off balance. So you can't in your head know what the timeline is until the very end.

But instantly you're like, hold on a second. So like, what is going on in this world? Is technology cyclical? And everyone decided they hated e-readers? I have an attend a lot of book readings. But is it usually the decision of the author to basically read the last book? Well, the lens is civically like the last chapter. It's up like well we're all done you don't have to buy it I'll be accepting returns in a minute Well that's like the I assume she read the entire book except for the same Jackson or I mean it's I mean they played that off of the They brought Sam Jackson over there I mean there was when Jonathan Latham's book

Chronic City came out he did do a stunt were over a series of I think nine readings he read through the entirety of the book, but that was explicitly a stunt. And it was like, people would go and sit all night listening to this. So it's like, unless she's doing that, in which case, she's just ripping off Sean and leave him, which is crazy. Like it's, yeah, usually you don't read the very end of the book and then go close and go, and that's the book. But it's like, somebody, I forgot who was tweeted something about like, I'm a college

professor in the movie. I don't get to the point of my lesson until the very last minute, and then I yell at you to do your homework as you're walking out. And like, that's what this feels like. Where it's like a real book reading wouldn't go like this, but I really need to do it for my movie this way.

Yeah. And there's like one last flashback where we see like the dying mom talk to Rodrigo and she gives him some advice, but the crazy thing about, it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the movie. And the crazy thing is, she's giving the speech to him when he's a little boy. So was she dying for his whole life?

Well, no, so here's my take on that. Or did he morph? Yes, he morphed. You can morph. My take on that. And this is the one, like how Sherry Dick seems, the one moment of the movie where I was like, actually, this might not be so terrible. This is the one technical thing he does in the movie that I really like a lot.

So she's giving him this speech about, you need to go to college, you can't stay with me while I'm dying. And it's a terrible speech. And I have to give the actress, I've got her name playing Isabella Credit because it is all in one take. It is terrible.

And she really does a good job in forming what is a very poorly written speech. That life has its ups and downs, but love is always there. And I'm always going to live on through you. So when you live your life, I'm living that life. So I need you to go and live this life for me. And then she's talking to him as he's about to go up to college and then it cuts back to him and he's a little boy and he hugs her. And I'm like, and that one, I'm like, okay, that is like, we're seeing

his emotion right there. We're not seeing him physically. We're seeing his relationship to her in that moment, even though no matter how much he grows up, he'll always be her son, always be her child. And she has the only place he can find that, like he's had so much trouble being a boy, since that bus accident, and the only place he feels safe, and he's confident is in the arms of his mother, no matter how old he gets, and I'm like,

oh, that's a beauty, like that was a genuinely, like, if this is a better movie, I'd be like, that's a beautiful, it reminded me a, at the end of the movie, Tempo Po, because all about people eating. The shot, the shot over the credits is just a mother nursing a baby. And it's like, and I found it so powerful because it was like, oh, that's what people are searching for when they're looking for food. Their entire life is they want that first meal when they were feeding off their mother. And what they were eating was The love and care of another human being and like you'll never feel that connection from food that you felt when you were Feeding from your mother's breast, but you're searching for it and everyone okay

It's like that that that that first bump exactly And that high you never reach it again and so in that moment I was like that's kind of a beautiful way for I felt like for him to show the thing But it's done really have hazardly so it's possible. I'm wrong and it like, that's kind of a beautiful way for, I felt like for him to show the thing, but it's done really half-hazardly. So it's possible I'm wrong, and it turns out that's not what he meant. It does seem like he morphed into the young himself. That like Michael Jackson at the end of Black,

the Black or White video, he's just changing shape as he finds his ultimate form. Yeah, yeah. But. Yeah, it's all a pretty and figure decides on Panther. Panther, who then breaks a car for no reason. I think he has a reason. Do you guys remember when that video came out and there's the whole thing he was saying where he's smashing up a car while yelling?

And people were constantly grabbing his car. And people reacted as if this was the most defensive thing they'd ever seen. There's a huge freak out there. Huge freak out there looking back, I still don't understand what the problem was. Was it the crotch or was it the violence? And it's like, I'm like, all he's doing is trying to get some extra points after his street fighter match by some national thing. Like, what's the big deal?

Yeah, it's the bonus round. I remember well because it was like, and now the debut is like right after the Simpsons like, they did the debut of Michael Jackson's new video. It's like, looking back, like, what, what, what happened? He was huge. He had McCulley Colgan in it. He was like, people were like, hold on, the Titanic talent. So Michael Jackson, McCulley Colken, in one production, I got to see it.

And then looking back, it was a huge buildup, and then looking at that video again, it's like, this is kind of a silly video. Yeah. That it starts with McCulley Colken's dad getting mad at him about playing music. McCulley Colken blasts the music so hard that his dad's lazy boy recliner is shot across the world to Africa. And then there's some hungry lions looking at him. So I guess it's implied the dad is eating.

And then of course the song starts. It's like, what is going on in this thing? So he hugs her. And when I found to be beautiful, it was very confusing. And it's, okay, we've just heard this stupid speech that sums up the movie. Movie over, right? No, because his daughter finishing her book

has to do the same speech basically. Yeah, it's the same speech. We get some like Benjamin Button style shots from characters previous in the movie. And then like it ends with Oscar Isaac and Olivia Wilde. Yeah. Just saying, hey, what's up? Just talking, just being like, hey, doing that thing that couples doing movies where they wake up and go, or they go like they finish sex and look at each other's eyes and go hi it's like I hate it so much okay I'll write this note down L it next time we have sex I won't say hi stop looking at my eyes and going hi I know you're here

I didn't black out for my orgasm and now I have to remember what's going on and where I am I didn't get a momentum. What am I doing? I am not doing a cover by my life for a slate. Wait, wait, he's a blank slate because he comes to hard. I never saw the movie. I assume that's the case. Oh wow, okay, but Bussin makes someone feel good. I'm gonna make someone feel curious and then confused. So guys, that was life itself. I think that's the whole movie.

I did want to take a moment to tell you guys again on the record about a dream I had the other night, which I told you about yesterday. I had a dream where Stanley presented his first pitch for the powers for the X-Men, and the only one who was still the same was Angel, and the rest were all different. And one of the X-Men's power was that he could make women

come with his minds, and Martin Goodman, the owner of Marvel, was like, you gotta change this, yeah. Like this is for children. We can't let that be his power. The only other character I remember, his power was that he was really sticky. So this is a dream I had. Anyway.

My own effect is you're by covering yourself with a gun. So you say that as if that super easy to do. All you have to do is cover yourself in gum. Like that takes a minute. Emission to watch Dan's two-minute long life hack video. Here's a life hack if you're not sticky enough to stick ordinary gum. You're going to apply it to every square inch of your body. Remember to leave one inch open so that your skin can breathe so you don't die like the one with gold finger.

Or as I call it gum finger. The movie in which James Bond has to stop our gum finger from stealing all the gum in fork, greatly. Okay, so that was life itself. Stuart, you did a fantastic job of summarizing a very good. Thanks, guys. Let's do final judgments.

Was this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, a movie you kind of like Stuart, what do you have to say? It's tough. I think I wish this movie was sillier, so it would be a good bad movie. I mean, this might be, this is worse than Gotti. Like, this is a bad movie. No, we owe Gotti a big apology.

This was much worse than that, yeah. So no, I like this is a bad movie. No, we owe Gotti a big apology. This was much worse than that, yeah. So no, I think this is a bad, bad movie. I don't think it's silly enough or fun enough to watch to make it a good, bad movie. I guess it's curious because of how terrible it is. I'm gonna say a story. When I first, the first half of this movie, I was like, this is a bad, bad movie.

I hate it. At the end of the movie, I was like, you know what movie? You're so crazy. I'm gonna call you a good bad movie. I think if you watch it by yourself, you're gonna get mad. But if you watch it with people, you're gonna be like, what? What?

What? There are times when I was like, book of Henry and move over. There's a new crappie movie in town. Yeah, I watched it together and like, the more we talked about it, the more we were like, had like a sneaking affection for it.

We're just like, that movie was so crazy and so weird and there was so much shit that went on at it. Like, and it's a movie that so crazy and so weird and there was so much shit that went on at like- And it's a movie that thinks it is so profound, it's so clever, and it's very dumb and hollow. It's like, it's that perfect sweet spot. Once you've seen the whole thing with another person, I guess, between intention and execution, where it's like, I'm gonna blow people's minds with a statement about love and Bob Dylan and family that just like is a capstone on human achievement

and then you watch and you're like, what? I feel like in some ways, this actually makes a really good date movie because you will have a blast talking about it afterwards. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'm giving it a good bet personally. And it's also like. Where are you turning into a cat? You're in the right also like... You turned into a cat. You're a recognition.

You turned a cat woman. You turned the cat's good woman. I guess we're all doing morphs now. Cool, I was somebody told me. That movie was the perfect cry. I mean, I feel like it's also a good way if you're on a date, if it turns out the other person loved the movie and really connected with it, I feel like it's also a good way if you're on a date, if it turns out the other person love the movie and really connected with it, you're like, uh, maybe with...

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since he used to play the flop house for Cherine when you were dating, even though she clearly wasn't interested. I'm with Cherine. Plus, I wanted to hear how Dan would pronounce your last name. So excited that you found someone you love. You both mean a lot to Andres and I, love Rob. That's a lovely sentiment.

That is very nice. That's very sweet. I'm glad that you baked into it, Dan, being unable to pronounce certain things. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Every time you see a word that you've never seen before, you know, you might not be able to pronounce it the first time. So this is gonna be true. So let's not be too hard on Dan.

The guy's doing his best. God love him. Wow, is this like a setup? What are you doing? Stuart, Dan was hit by a bus. Oh wow. What the baby survived, your father? Okay, well, I'm gonna go see that baby.

Oh, I thought we were gonna go see that movie. Where is it movie? I mean, I left it at home because I didn't think you'd want to see it but If the wet band it stopped by the baby could just set up some traps But I stood your reaction to it was the regular human reaction of I will I still love this baby? Mm-hmm. I still love this baby. I suppose to the oscarisic reaction, which is I'll never see this baby again And I have to have my horseman attack the X-Men I guess I'll make a robot baby. What their oscarisic movies are there? A little movie called Star Wars. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, and then he's like, I don't trust Laura Dern

Maybe she has a baby a little movie called X Machina. I was mentioned robots, keep moving. Uh, annihilation. Uh, he's like, sometimes I have a Southern accent, sometimes I don't. Uh, the Cohen Brothers one where he's a singer guide about Bob Dylan. Uh, inside Louis and David. Inside Louis and Davis. Yeah, uh, he's like, let me, let me sing you a song.

A most violent year, is that with those? Yeah, I like that one. That's all right. It's got a great- I like heart-chasing it. And it's got some great outfits. Yeah, that's true. If on, in turn, outfits and interior design,

I give that movie a hundred percent. Mm-hmm. So this episode's gonna come out one day before we have our live show in Brooklyn. So we should still promote that. You definitely should. February 3rd Super Bowl Sunday in Brooklyn at the Bell House. Maybe you were a New Orleans fan who is feeling,

maybe not as interested to watch this sham of a Super Bowl. The shamper bowl, let's call it. Yours open at seven, eight o'clock show, get there early to get a seat. If you like that sort of thing, and by that sort of thing, I mean sitting down. If you don't like standing and like having, if you like resting the pressure of your body

on your butt instead of your feet, get there early as the Bellhouse people may know. It is a mostly standing room place, but it's also got some seats. Make sure you bring identification because they are very big about carding. They do card. If they were a pop artist, they'd be Cardi B. Oh, okay. If they were, if they were a, if they were a famous person famous for being famous, they would be Kim Kardashian. If they were a sci-fi writer with say, let's say bad political views, they'd be Orson Scott card. And if they were in Star Trek, they'd be Robert Picardo.

Cool. It's always from, if they were in Breaks and Geeks, they'd be in Grublin's too. Or Delini, more people know him from Star Trek than Grublin's too. What? I don't feel at home in this world anymore. If you were a met, if you were the oppressor of the Huguenots in France, they'd be cardinal reslil. He he he. So if they were Harrison Ford's character in Blade Runner,

they'd be deckhard. If they were a show that I haven't watched for a long time, it would be House of Cards. If they were a game that I don't enjoy that a long time, it would be House of Cards. If they were a game that I don't enjoy that much, but a lot of people, I know enjoy it, so I end up having to play it. They'd be cards against humanity. They're my dad's favorite sports team.

They would be the cardinals. Oh, cool. He did cardinal recently, but that still gets to get. We're still getting to get to get to get to get to get to. But the point is, we're gonna be talking about the happy time murders. Sunday, February 3rd, Super Bowl Sunday, the bell house. You know what it's like. Come on, come on, MCS.

Uh, so as often as the case in these hotel room episodes, I have not chosen the letters beforehand. That actually happens when we're doing it regular too. Okay, this is off the top of the dome. Okay, so it is. The other choice. This is going to be interesting or not. Hey, peaches. This is from... So, wait, is this the letter? Yeah. I chose one or are you just talking to us?

This is from Eric, last night with hell. Eric Roberts. Hey, peaches. Thanks for coming out to Frozen Ask Wisconsin last night. This is a new letter. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. The presses.

Which is good because it's very cold out. We need something hot. Dan has to wear an oven mitt. It's so hot. Great show. Made my birthday weekend. He's wearing it on his penis. Weird. Very weird. Made my birthday weekend complete. The only bad part was when you said,

let's have two, no three more questions when I was number four in line. Oh man. That was my mistake. I should have said four questions. And then we could have had a Passover satire. Anyway, here's the question I was going to ask. The end credits for venom have funky graphics with songs from Eminem and Run the Jewels.

This makes me wonder, what are your favorite opening or closing credits either visually or musically or both keep on flopping Eric last name with hell? I mean, I'm a purist. It's hard for me to fault any Saul bass credit opening credit sequence. I particularly like North by Northwest myself north was great and I love the psycho opening sequence the music is amazing and it's a little just lines going back and forth process screen basically but it looks fantastic and it like somehow really sets up the movie you're going to see without actually showing you anything related

to the movie that you're about to see. I don't know. The movie watchman is pretty terrible but I think the opening credits are super great with the Times Air a change in line over it. It's just like series a little. A different musician. And it's, yeah, it's like a, that's, if you have any interest in watching a film version of Watchmen or TV version of Watchmen, which I guess is coming, just watch the opening credits and then not watch anymore. I have to say that closing credit sequence of Into the Spiderverse, where it's literally just like tons of Spider-Man

doing all sorts of crazy silly stuff, like this is exactly what I want out of the world. Like that was really fantastically done. This is a movie that's lost a little bit, it's lustre for me, because it's just kind of like nihilistic and who cares. But seven, when I first saw it, one amazing opening credit sequence

and very effective closing credit sequence just by running the credits in a opposite direction over the normal way. Yeah, I forgot about that. Did you, were you like me in the theater and you like, did a handstand because you're like, I must have messed something up.

Ha ha ha ha. When I was in, during my brief time that I lived in St. Paul, I went to the art museum there and they had a presentation that was just about the art of the title sequence. They had like 30 title sequences and it was so much fun. I wish that I wish another place could do that again so I could go see something like that again. I mean, okay.

They will. And any museums will listen. A humble request by Dan McCloy. Um, well, I remember one of them was the opening to Barbarella where like the letters of Barbarella keep like coming up her like bits and pieces. Yep. And uh, but very well put. Very, very sensitively described.

Especially in the life itself episode. But uh, it just more than the title sequence itself, it just struck me how stupid the song is for the... Because like, Bob Aurella, Kakoshella, there's a kind of something about you, my Bob Aurella. It's like, okay, this is so 60s, but it's not even from the 60s. Yeah. I think one something that I used to not like, but I like a lot now is the big credit sequence at the end of the movie. I remember seeing high fidelity and there was a big credit sequence like that at the end

and I was like, why would you put this at the end instead of the beginning? But now that they put, especially with like superhero movies, they put them at the end and it means that you can use the characters from the movie in the sequence without it being a spoiler. And it's kind of fun now to see these like kind of fantasies on the theme of what we've just seen in the movie, like just design, just the characters being used as design elements in the eight ways is really cool. It's like every, every super movie gets its own like James Bond credit sequence, but they can use anything in the movie because they don't have to worry about tipping you off the

plot point. And I should have mentioned the James Bond credit sequences, which of course are crazy. Are they, wait, is there something about those? They're not just super normal credit sequences? I mean, they're usually have a lady silhouette shooting abstract objects. Um, geometric bodies. Um, this is from, let's see see Holly last name with hell. The lightly. It's titled Love Letter Stuart Wellington. Oh cool, I hope it's on my

excercise for an Holly. Let's get down to business. You all just finished doing your live show in Madison, Wisconsin. Yep. It's kind of crazy that this episode is gonna be all responses to Madison, Wisconsin. It's gonna be released before that. We've got so many live shows to get to before this Madison show. Anyway. First of all, thank you. Second of all, Elliott Danesjord, please don't forget to come back to Madison when you have the chance.

Side Story. My roommate and I pregame tonight with some very delightful green and copious amounts of Tito's vodka. Cool. They pregame for a popular concert and I for a live podcast taping up a flop house. While not of my friends wanted to join me in seeing the show lame, I sit I sat in my apartment after the show thinking I should send an email in this current state. I follow this story by asking if you were to insert yourself into any college party movie scenario What movie would it be and why for you feel free to include delightful stories of college shenanigans?

I'll be ending this email with the most important part. Stuart Wellington might be the most beautiful man ever seen. While podcasts are mainly audible for a man, I've lived this long not realizing that Stuart is truly on par with Chris Hemsworth. Wow. I've seen him in real life. I may have been too intoxicated to ask for his hand

and marriage too late, but I wish he knows that he is as beautiful and I would order him a pizza anytime. Now let me just say that, Stuart may just have appeared the beautiful next to me and Dan, who are not at the same level. No, yeah, please. Yeah, please, knock me down a little bit more, Elliot.

I just wanted to get too big ahead, Mr. Hemsworth. Oh, man. Yeah, he's, you see the most attractive Chris Settle now. No, Chris Pine. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, look at those eyes. Oh, man.

Just fall into it. Just beautiful blue diamonds. Uh, uh, Oh, probably. Question is, most college movies we've come to realize are reprehensible.

I mean, if I could go to any college party in the movie, I'd go to the college party in life itself to tell Olivia Wilde not to marry Oscar. I say, yeah, I mean, that's the center down the path of set. This is all going to lead to you being hit by a bus and your daughter, your granddaughter is going to write a shitty book. So let's not even do this. I mean, I feel like my college experience was closer to that movie PCU.

But, uh, but, um, no, I Okay. But, but, no, I feel like my, I feel like, I don't know, whatever. I probably want to be in like everybody wants some, a movie that I've extolled the virtues of multiple times. Yeah, let's like your fantasy movie.

It's my fantasy movie. I just see you think about like, oh, that's, that's for the day. Those guys, those guys seem like they had a good time. Yeah, maybe I'd go, they don't seem that irritating. Maybe I'd go to that party and revenge of the nerds and be like, that's not your boyfriend. It's a nerd and Darth Vader costume.

Don't leave with him. Yeah, yeah, revenge of the nerds is a rough one. Yeah. I mean, I would basically be ogre showing up yelling nerds over and over. Who knew that ogre was the hero of the movie? Yeah, I'm, I would basically be ogre showing up yelling nerds over and over. Who knew that odor was the hero of the movie? Yeah, I'm looking up college movies. Sorry It's perfect. I mean, I could see you having fun singing rock a pillow with them. I would that would be a delight I don't have any like many college stories. I

my friend Brian Davis used to have a what he called suarez in his dorm room every Wednesday like literally every Wednesday a dorm room party and my main experience of those was Half the time just stopping by being like hey, I've got a paper to write. I'll see you guys later So that's about the kind of party or I was in college Mm-hmm. Yeah, I didn't I didn kind of party where I was in college. Yeah, I didn't go to any party in college.

Yeah, I was doing the life of the city. No, why didn't you guys go to parties? They're fun. Well, I mean, I was in New York, so I was busy solving crimes. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're delivering pizzas into the sewer system for the Ninja Turtles. Yeah, the Ninja desperately searching for them,

desperately seeking season. I know, wow, what a movie. There was a, I would be like getting ready for a party and then some Brassie Dayne would walk in with a story. Gams from here to heaven and I'd have to get drunk and some shenanigans. Yep. A web of deceit and seduction. Um, I'm still looking for another suitable letter.

Vamp, vamp. Uh, yeah. So blood, blood, blood, with vampires, he didn't mildly send fiscalons. Um, so why would a vampire be here, Elliot? Oh, that's a good question. Well, see some character work. Why would a vampire be? I mean, what, what, are there, is there a movie set in the Midwest where it's like an

ordinary Midwestern family, but they have one ancestry who's a vampire who lives in their basement and they have to keep him a secret. And then they've been successfully able to do this for 200 years since the family came to the United States. But now for some reason they're unable to do it. Wait, was that a rhetorical question? I wonder if that's a good idea. It was. I'll write it. Yeah, go write it. Because I don't know if I've ever seen a midwestern vampire movie except maybe like Martin,

which is set. Yeah. I guess that's sent in like Pennsylvania. It's not really the Midwest, but it feels Midwestern. And near dark is more Western, right? Yeah, yeah. I would call it a Western vampire movie. So right in, if anyone has an idea, everyone knows of a Midwestern vampire movie, like a vampire in Brooklyn that's clearly not the Midwest. Yeah, it says it on the tin.

Why does that movie come in a tin? That's why I don't know. Because it's limited to collector's ones. OK, I found out. Because when they finished the movie, they put it into can and they said, close this up, never open it. Barriotland Desert, 100 feet underground.

Put it next to those ET cartridges. This one looks interesting. A furry's response to Potter'sville. Oh, and that is interesting. This is from Stephen Liesner withheld. Cold there. Greetings, and that is interesting. Uh, this is from Stephen last night with Held. Cold air. Uh, Greetings, Flappers, medium time listener, first time writer, like it says in the several subject line, I mean, long time member of the furry fandom.

Mm-hmm. And I wanted to say a little something about our representation in recent topic movie Potter'sville. In many ways, especially relative to previous appearances and other parts of pop culture of the years, it wasn't that bad. And multiple parts is portrayed as a weird, yet pleasant little hobby that people join not for any discernible reason,

but because it just makes sense. And whenever someone wanders into a group of furs, they can't help but enjoy themselves. Though one thing did give me thinking, watching the movie I saw as with anytime furries appear in media that it was outrageously obvious to figure out which fur suits were put together by the costume department and which belong to the actual furries who answered the background extras and experts having.

That's a very funny point. Real fur suits, among other things, generally have smaller heads, bodies that fit properly, and there's a general sense that it was made for a specific individual and not someone thinking that he's emptying the sports mascot aesthetic. So that leads to my question. Are there any niche hobbies you're involved in or know a lot about whenever it shows up in a movie or a TV show, you can instantly tell if a person behind the scenes did their homework.

What little things might jump out? Is it something more subtle than a character assuming that all video games are played by tightly clutching the controller close to the chest while waving it around? Yeah, it's the James Gandalfini from the first episode of the Superannos where he just holds the controller with one hand to play Mario Kart. I'm like, that's impossible.

No man is that good. He has huge hands. The bonus round, since we furries love everyone, you three are welcome to join us, which means you'll each need a first sonar. And while nobody can ultimately decide on the species except for you, allow me to offer a few suggestions. Jay welcome.

For Dan, the sloth comes to mind. As it matches both his desire to conserve energy at all times and his willingness to fall asleep in any occasion. For Elliott, the Finic Fox is the clear choice. Oh, I would love that. Since those little guys will always make their voice heard above the crowd over and over and over again. I love Finic Fox's. That's a good choice. Finally for Stuart, since he's such a cool dashing rogue at home in the pack or lurking

in the shadows of the night, there can only be one option. The coolest and best animal ever to walk the earth, the raccoon. Oh wow. Is a rascal. Thanks for all the smiles. Keep up the great last even last name without what a great letter. Terrible. Terifying little hands.

It makes me kind of happy to hear that Hottersville was not as bad a depiction of it as I thought, at least from his point of view. That like, because usually I think when it's represented in media, it is represented as like a thing that crazy people do. That's really incredible. It's like, yeah, it's like the butt of the joke. But it is a good point that I hadn't thought about that.

It's like, oh yeah, if you really want to become this persona, you're not like a goofy mascot. Like, my bucket of badger is not a first-sona, you know? But yeah, I could see being a fan of Fox those big ears. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what my hobbies are for the first question. Like I draw, I bake.

I mean, like, I'm dating profile Dan. Like, you can think that in your head and then say, I'll add one that applies to the book. Well, no, I'm just saying that like drawing and baking are not like not things that I've seen represented where I'm like, that's all wrong. Oh, I guess. But you've seen like working in television,

like is often portrayed in credit. Yeah, that's not a hobby. I like, this is not really a hobby either, but like, I've noticed, I like to sing karaoke a lot, and I've noticed that depicted in movie, or it's always weird depicted in movies, it's like often at a bar that's not being dedicated to karaoke, and there's just people singing off in a corner of the room while no one else is paying attention to them. And that's not the way karaoke bars work. Yeah, you're using getting up there, grabbing the mic,

and then all eyes are on. Yeah, I'm in the room. Yeah. The star. Yeah. I would bring big, big, bright shining star. Yeah, I mean, I'm a bit of a tabletop gamer. And yeah, it's pretty obvious when that stuff doesn't match up.

Whether it's just the way people talk about Dungeons and Dragons or the way they hold their toy soldiers when they're pushing them around the table. You don't actually see that. I think the thing that gets to me a lot of times, it less than it used to as it's become more of a mainstream thing, but still somewhat is the way comic book fans are presented in movies and television or used to be where it was like they just wouldn't do the bother to the research about the details of it.

Something that actually- That's why you love Big Bang Theory so much. Oh God, in heaven, don't even bring me to that dark place. But like, I mentioned this at the Massage of the Last Night where in 40-year-old Virgin, Steve Krell also like this big nerd collector and he has framed comic books on his wall. And the comics are clearly like new comics from the past year or two when the movie was made.

And it's like, why did he frame that? It makes no sense. Like at least have the set decorator look up like an old comic book and print out a copy of the cover. Maybe it's a rotating thing where he puts a different his favorite comic of each year in the first place. Like his book of the week. Yeah, yeah, I go to my store on Wednesdays. I pick up my new

books, read them all that day, and then I announce the best and frame it on my wall as the book of the week. There's also the moment in that movie when Catherine Keener finds that huge box of porn tapes in his house. And she's like, you must be a psychopath. And it's like, there is not the craziest thing for a guy to have. I mean, it's a big box of tapes, but like, if every guy who had this- Yeah, I mean, if he was like a normal guy and kept it all in a trash bag, like,

if he was a normal guy, kept in a trash bag and a hole in his backyard. Yeah. I found, and also like- That was originally the plot of frailty story. Bill Paxton. I'm also a serial killer, and a lot of the details of that is often got wrong in movies. But Dan, you were saying what goes on next?

Yeah, the only other part of that question was the fur personas, but I think he nailed it so well that I can't fight that. Yeah. What happens next is we give a few recommendations of movies. You can watch movies we like instead of live itself yes probably yeah um I'll go first because this is a live show I of course was on a plane oh cool so what did I watch I watched hotel Artemis and uh before I get into this movie just just just take a listen to this cast mm-hmm just I mean this is not the full cast, but a few names,

Jody Foster, Dave Batista, Sterling K. Brown, Jeff Goldblum, Brian Tyree Henry, Ginny Slate, Zachary Kinto, Charlie Day. Yep. I mean, come on, man. You're right. Any movie with a great cast has to be great. Just look at the original Casino Royale. It's got David Niven or some Wells, Peter Sellers, Woody Allen.

It's nothing but great stuff. All right. I'm just saying, an interesting cast, like a lot of fun character actors there. So hotel artists, it's about a hotel for a- Who dogs? Who dogs? So excited.

Who's that hotel for gods? No, it's about a hotel. That's actually a secret hospital for criminals, where they go to get patched up by Jody Foster. Cool. It's a night nurse, but for bad guys instead of super night nurse slash surgeon, like she really like does it. I mean, night nurse does real surgery in the comics. So I got to know you're talking about.

Oh no, it's a character called night nurse who patches up superheroes in the Marvel universe. And Jody Foster is giving a performance called Night Nurse who patches up superheroes in the Marvel Universe. And Jordy Foster is giving a performance that I honestly can't tell whether is good or terrible. Because she's putting on this like tuffled broad voice the whole time. And she's clearly having a bowl doing it though. And it's basically like, it feels like if the hotel from John Wick got crossed with a little bit of assault on precinct 13 because it's like a criminal comes in and like other criminals are trying to like get into like attack people. But it's a neutral zone, right?

Yeah, it's supposed to be a neutral zone. And Jody Foster also brings a police officer into patch, her up, played by Jenny Slade at one point. And that, that seems like it breaks the rules. Yeah. Honestly, that, that thread kind of goes nowhere. Oh, good. It's a fun little movie.

Like, it's, it's a lot better at setting things off than the setting things up and hang them off in a satisfying way. But it's got a bit of that kind of John Carpenter, like semi-low budget fun little type science fictiony vibe. So it was fun. Cool. I'm going to recommend a movie called Standoff at Sparrow Creek. It's a recent release. It's a tiny little thriller kind of cut from the reservoir dogs mold.

It's set in the 90s in Michigan and it's a group of militiamen who hear over there. Michigan militiamen. Michigan militiamen. I set it all without messing up. Red blood and yellow blood. They, uh, and they hear over their CB that a policeman's funeral had been attacked by a man wearing body armor and holding a machine gun like he is a or an assault rifle like he's basically just like he's one of them. And then they realize that one of their assault rifles is missing and they start to turn on each other. And it's it's it's it's it's not very violent movie. It's not very violent movie. It's got some great character work and it's got a ton of veteran character actors like Chris Mulkey, who was in Gaudi. So yeah, if that sounds cool, check it out.

I'd like to recommend a movie from a couple years ago that's called Comico the Treasure Hunter. And it is a movie loosely based on an urban legend about a thing that people thought happened but didn't quite happen with it. Anyway, it's about a woman, a Japanese woman who does not really fit into normal life and is having trouble understanding her purpose, but sees herself as a finder of treasures,

and she has become convinced that the money from the movie Fargo was a real thing, that that movie was based on a true story, and that she has the clues she needs to find that money and Goes on this kind of last ditch desperate trip to America Without any resources really and without knowing much English without knowing what she's doing to find this money as a way of kind of bringing meeting to her life and it's a

It's a very strange movie, but it like across the feeling of, I thought, being isolated from the world around you. And you know the whole time that money does not exist. And characters tell her, that's not a real thing. That was just a movie. But she is so dedicated to this unachievable, very ridiculous goal that it becomes something kind of noble about that pursuit, though of course it's doomed to fail And that's a I really liked a lot. It's a movie that like in the description it where it kind of sounds like

It might be trying the description makes it sound like it's almost trying to be a co-embrothers movie But it is not trying to be a co-embrothers movie and it's it's really its own thing. So come you go the treasure hunter I liked it cool three. Three movies recommended. Now what, Dan? Uh, and that was the time when we sadly have to say goodbye. Mm-hmm. And I say extra sadly because it's always nice to see your faces in the same room. I mean, I see Stuart's beautiful face all the time. But, the most beautiful face, hemsworth, little. Oh, my face is beautiful now, huh, guys.

Okay, I don't know why that was, I mean, defensive, but. Oh, now I'm being defensive a little Canadian at the end. Hey, I'm a defensive hockey player, I guess, character that I'm working on. You're entertaining. I live. This next character is named Roger, the defensive hockey player. Hey, hey, oh, hey. Oh, so I want you to want me to hit the puck, I guess. Yeah, great to see you guys. It's always wonderful to be in the same space. Uh-huh.

And just exploring it. Yeah, just exploring the space together. Just exploring each other. I mean, one of the hotel rooms exploring the weird pillow that they always put on the bed that's mostly decorative. Why do they do that? It's like every time I get on the bed, I have to push that pillow out of the way. that's mostly decorative. Why do they do that? It's like every time I get on the bed,

I have to push that pillow out of the way. It's like this is not helping anybody. I don't even like the way it looks. Hotels, okay, this is a hot take before we go. Oh, what? One of my classic hand did hotel hot takes. Hotels, enough of the big round decorative pillows that nobody uses and back to you, dude.

Now it's time for Dan to deliver his pendant, hotel hot cakes. Oh, delicious. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going to now someone's going to write it and be like, I use that pillow for my back pain and it's necessary for me.

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