The Flop House - Ep. #289 - Robin Hood

Episode Date: July 20, 2019

Straight from the glamorous and echoey Minneapolis airport-adjacent La Quinta inn, it's all three of the peaches in the same room, chewing over the Taron Egerton, not-your-daddy's-Robin Hood. Meanwhile Dan talks a surprising amount about the Scarlet Pimpernel, Elliott talks about why the Sheriff of Nottingham's goons are a superstitious, cowardly lot, and Stuart is F. Murray Enthusiastic. Wikipedia summary for Robin Hood Movies recommended in this episode: Spider-Man: Far From Home The Hole in the Ground The Adventures of Robin Hood The Gunfighter LIVE SHOW DATES 2019! September 28 – BOSTON – WBUR CitySpace (early show SOLD OUT, but there are still tickets to the later show!) October 12 – LOS ANGELES – The Regent Theater

On this episode we discuss Robin Hood. You mean the adventures of Robin Hood from 1938? No, not that one. Robin Hood from 1973. No. Robin Hood Prince of Thieves from 1991? No. Robin Hood Minin' Tights from 1993.

Nope. Robin Hood from 2010. No. Then Robin Hood from 2018? That's the one! Hey and welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Oh hey guys, it's me, Stuart Wellington. And this is Elliot Kaelin. Guys, it sounds like we're in the same room right now.

I know, hey, who six are so great. Everyone's like, are they a professional sound studio? Yeah. Maybe where Paul McCartney recorded most of the parts for the Wings albums? Oh, he did that. He did that in the sound studio? Yeah, yeah, he didn't do it just like,

you know, looking to sweet's hotel room. Well, it sounds so great because you were nailing up like eggshell foam in the room, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I lose my deposit on this hotel room. I mean, I don't think it doesn't matter. It just sounds so good.

You'll just play the podcast for them, and they'll just be like, hmm, nothing in the rule book says you can't put a egg shell foam in here. Pretty sure there is a rule book that says you can't just nail stuff in the book. Well, figure that out. Yeah, but it's no joke we're in a glamorous locking time. Woo! The hotel's so glamorous they provide shampoo, but not conditioner.

Ha, ha, ha. Sorry, Roccofeller. And the tiniest of the tiniest shampoo bottle, even for a hotel room. It's a tiny bottle. Yeah. I accidentally snapped the cap right off the top of it. I'll try to open it. And I thought for a second, was I hit by radiation as my strength increased to 1000 volts?

No. No. No. Or maybe there's like a bullet that has been lodged in your brain and it's slowly traveling toward the center of your brain to kill you, but in the meantime, it makes you super strong. That's how medicine works.

Anyway, what are you doing this podcast Dan? Well, guys, it's a podcast where we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it. Here's my favorite thing about what just happened. Is Dan asked himself the question and then seems to not remember the answer is her moment. They say, you're a lawyer, never ask a question, you don't know the answer to.

But I would say in real life, never ask yourself a question, you don't know the answer to. What I liked about that bit, Elliot, is, oh, yeah, that you really did it. So Dan dad, we watched a bad movie. Now we're gonna talk about it. Yeah, we watched Robin Hood. No extra words. Like, we all know, it's not a minute tight,

it's not a, uh, uh, Prince of Thieves, it's just, we all know Robin Hood, the character, no waffling around, no fencing about Robin Hood. Yeah, no Robin Hood, colon, bad boy, boogie, or anything like that. So that would have been appropriate, I think. Robin Hood, Colin, wild in the streets, never. Now, I'm surprised, we'll get into it, but I'm surprised they since they wanted to make this movie kind of gritty and modern,

but they didn't just call it hood. That would have made more sense. Was it because of the TV show, the cape? If I'm gonna see it so hard. Now it because of the TV show, the Cape? If I'm just too slow. Now, was that a TV show about a man who makes capes? Yes. Yeah, it was about a man who makes capes on Cape Cod. Because there's a villain who owns much of the property

in Cape Cod, whose name is Jess. Yep. So Dan, Robin Hood. Yes, wait. Explain. Well, do you want me to explain the character Robinhood? Yeah, so tell us anyone who's not familiar with the centuries old character Robinhood. What's his deal? Let's see why he wonders turn on some turn offs.

He just like us. And the simplest of words, Elliot, derabs from the rich and he gives to the poor. I thought you were like in the simplest of words, Elliot's, he man, take thing. He man take thing not his. Now in early, the poor. I thought you were like in the simplest of words, Elliot's, he man take thing. He man take thing not his. Now in early, the early story, he robs from the routine of the poor were in 1970s, Burbank, California, is it in 1920s, Paris? Is it like a cave man? Where? Dan, give us, get sent me a scene. In old time, England. The Mary old era.

Mary old era, in Sherwood Forest and in Natiham. Okay. And when everybody had green sleeves played in their Walkman. You could not pass a car window without hearing green sleeves blasting out of it. It was surely the song of the summer. Now in the earliest versions of Robin Hood, Robin Hood was a member of the human class. How do you pronounce that? A human class. No, he was also a human.

He was a human. If this was D&D, you'd be a human class. He was a, that's not a class. It's a right. I don't know. He was a landowner, but he was not a noble. In later versions of Robin Hood's story, he was a noble who turned against the government. And that is the more popular one to adapt these days,

it seems. When he was a young man. It's great when like a super wealthy rich landholder deans to give poor people stuff. Yeah, we'll get to that. So he was Robin of Loxley, right? So you sang like when he was a young man farmer who's just that's Robin who lives in Loxley,

but then he became Lord Robin owner of Loxley. And my knowledge is not that deep. Now, the thing is that you don't need to have that much knowledge because as the movie opens and we look at a leather bound to tone that says Robinhood on it, we get some narration from a character named Tuck. Oh boy, everlasting. Who is immediately winking at the audience being like, hey all stuff about history forget all that shit. What years it who cares Let's just do this story

It's a lot of the like the story you've heard is wrong Don't think that what they tell you is the right thing because real history is a lot messier and then spoiler He goes on to tell the least messy most by the numbers. Yeah, this is exactly not your daddies Robin Hood Which would have been Robin Hood Prince of the the least messy most by the numbers. Yeah, this is exactly the same. This is not your daddy's Robinhood, which would have been Robinhood, Prince of the East. You see. Well, your grandpa's Robinhood, Eryl Flynn, and the adventures of Robinhood.

Uh-huh. So the movie opens with a young ninja dressed like Katana, sneaking into a stable. Now, they dress like Katana or more like an Assassin's Creed. I think she's dressed more like a Princess Katana from the Mortal Kombat series, but I don't know, I'm not a big Assassin's Creed guy. I think we established that in the Assassin's Creed episode. Yeah, asterix. See the Assassin's Creed episode.

So this ninja sneaks into a stable. She is accosted by a handsome landowner, a young landowner. Wow, well, young lord. His name he gives as. Rob, and we find out that her name is Marion. Oh, it's a twist on the Made Marion. Already we're like, is this for getting on it? I mean, because this isn't the Made Marion,

who's like, oh, save me, save me. This is a Made Marion who steals, she's tough, she probably fucks. And she's really, still in Stuart's line there. And she's just like everyone in this movie is super badass. And Tuck has already said earlier, he goes, the story starts with a thief, but not the thief you're thinking of. records scratch. That record, of course, is green sleeves.

So we get a little bit of a love montage between Robin Mary, what is she stealing? She stealing horse, so I give to a local farmer whose horse has died. And Rob at first makes it seem like he is a stable boy, but actually he's the owner and he lets her get away. Yeah, that's mean, at that point it's not stealing, it's just a gift. Yeah, he looks, I mean, he looks like hot enough to be a stable boy, but clean enough to be a lower. Yeah.

She eats streets, et cetera. So we get a love montage between Robin Marion, Fast Forward, explains how great everything is. We see a little bit of the evil sheriff of Nottingham from behind. Like, who's that guy? We're told again to forget history, forget what you think you know.

This is no bedtime story, hell yeah. Robin gets a really cool letter in the mail that is a draft notice for the third crusade. As they did. It's so funny because it's written out like you have been drafted to join the third crusade signed by the sheriff of Nottie Ham. And it's like, uh, it's, this is the beginning of, uh, of the parallel they're trying to draw

between modern times and Robin Hood times. Yeah. Which parallel spoiler alert does not work. The, yeah, so he goes off to war with the other doe boys. With the host of the doe boys. No, isn't that what they called like a one-to-one soldier? Yeah, no. Yeah, you're probably, I'm not a maniac.

I know, you're a maniac. I mean, that's for that reason. I mean, you're a maniac on I mean, that's for that reason. You're a maniac on the floor. So there's a couple questions. You should get a part of that drug trial in the future. So that makes you a maniac, right? Where didn't they go anywhere?

Yeah, and that's taking those drugs, had me what, cutting off people's skelps and putting them on mannequins? Is that what happened to them? Probably, yeah. Let's ask our old pal Elijah Wood. I think you're talking about two different maniacs at this point. We are.

maniac McGee. And I slapped a shoulder expecting a dead-on Elijah Wood impression. I got nothing. I'll make my eyes grow three sizes. Oh, just like the Grinch. Just like a battle ain't done. When he saw that roast beast. So apparently the sheriff of Nottingham can like draft a nobility.

The sheriff of Nottingham seems to be a all powerful guy in the Nottingham region. He has a council of lords, but they don't really do anything other than advise him. And also the only power higher than him is the Catholic church, which raises its own questions about how this this England works. But Stewart, so they go and they're, and they're fighting. And what is this war like the Crusade movies we've seen before? Heck no, it isn't. Well, it depends on what you mean by a Crusade movie, because it's a lot like any movie that takes place in like modern Middle East war movies. So like your Black Hawk Downs. Yeah, your your hurtlockers. It takes place four years later, right? We get a little four year later John. Robin and his unit are pinned down by a mechanized

crossbow. So that's basically like a gambling gun crossbow. And at that point, I was like, you know what, if the movie maintains this level of stupidity, maybe I'll actually enjoy it at just like how dumb it is. And it doesn't really. And I love this shot of like middle-ajorous crusaders like sneaking through a ruined city, holding their bows at the ready. Like there are rifles. Yeah, like, shouldn't they have like shields instead of that totally serve them better

against this mechanized cross-row? And also the idea that the crusades was like a modern war where it's like, and I could be wrong with this, but like street by street fighting through ruins that were caused. I mean, there's literally a part where they're like, they have their little mission and they're like, get out of the way. I'm calling in the stones and they, he like, what sends up a flare is that they shoot, they catapult rocks in.

Yeah, like a mortar attack, but in some of them, I mean, the results are the same. They're right or something. It's one of those things that all, almost all movies do where they're like, like a mortar attack, but instead of, I mean, the results are different or something. It's one of those things that almost all movies do where they're like, when a stone or a cannonball hits, it's an explosion. It explodes like it's a bomb. And when I was first watching this, at first I was like, I was kind of into it.

I was like, okay, this is a different way to show the crusades, like they're clearly trying to make it as modern as possible, but it just doesn't work. When Robin is, I would say Sherlock. When Robin does, I'll just say Sherlock. When Robin is, I'm drawing English, public domain character. When Robin goes off to stop this, it's the class, and also the thing you've seen in every warm movie where it's like, we're pinned down by a sniper. I'm gonna go stop him.

Hey, that's an order. Come back and he goes off and takes care of this sniper, because he's such a badass. Yeah, like in the Marine. Yeah, or, saving private Ryan or. Oh, yeah. There's other movies than the Marines. Yeah. Because at least three, there's saving private Ryan.

There's Robin Hood and there's nine to five. I don't remember. There's a sniper scene in nine to five, probably. But the minute he's like, stay with your unit, that's an order. I was like, okay, this doesn't work. Yeah, and I like the idea that like, I mean, this guy's landed in ability, right?

So like, who's given him an order? Yeah, he would have raised, he would have taken his, his, what, fiefdom people, his, his serves. Yeah. And then would have said like, you're in my, you're in my unit now, I'm raising you and I'm raising the money

and we're gonna go find him. Yeah, and he's like, and I'm going to go to another country and steal stuff with all my other friends. Yeah, he is. Because that's basically what they're doing. If you come with me and kill a bunch of moors, then the Pope will forgive me for all the terrible things

I've done. So we're doing this right now. Like it's, they're just trying to cram. But we should forget all the history that we think we know. The, the, the, the, the, the, good, I mean, that's right. You know what, I forgot what Doug told me in the beginning. Forget all the history, you know,

about how the crusades were. The other weird thing is that they're running around with bows and arrows, and you know, they're fucking sick with those things. And they're pinned down by a mechanized crossbow, and they act like this thing is like serious business. But like later on, we see just like regular guards, like regular, basically like the police force for the sheriff of Nottingham all have the same like mechanized crossbows. Yeah, so like it is weird that those those like regular guards have better equipment than these soldiers do.

But you know, I mean, it's a it's a cutting Comment on how we often send our men and women of the fighting forces into battle unequipped Or with their unarmored humvees during the beginning of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. I thought youvees during the beginning of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. I thought you were gonna sing the beginning of the movie. In the movie, I wish, I'd be like, forget what you know about Robinhood and then he's just tear-assing around and I'm like,

I'm like with Aerosmith blasting out of the speakers. So, sorry, Aerosmith covering green sleeves. Yeah, so, Aerosmith goes behind enemy lines to save his buddy Clayton, who has been captured. Then they get ambushed by an even cooler giant crossbow. Then they call down a tray-bush-a strike by using a flare, and they're supposed to retreat. Robin Hood gets almost captured and killed by like the leader of the the the Morish forces. Yeah.

But that's a super badass. Yeah, he's like the most badass, but then flip. So you think it's a guy Jedi what's going on? Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming he's yeah, and he unlike it can can Muslims do that? Oh my God. Now I understand why we're probably so scared. And right before he's about to get stabbed to death, his unit commander guy of Geesborne or Gie of Giesborne. Guy of Giesborne.

Jumps out and chops off the Moore's hand and saves Robyn's life. And that means the infinity gauntlet falls to the ground and they're all scrambling for it because they can't let him get it, right? We see them scrambling for a while. And then Robin, then we cut to some scenes in like the English camp where the Crusaders camp where they have all the prisoners. And Robin is like wandering around in that post-battle fugue distressed by the horrors of war. And he's watching as they're executing their prisoners

and they're torturing them for information. Yeah, that's how we know the Robin Hood is a good dude. He's like, hey, he's still rob of locks at this point. Maybe you shouldn't just randomly kill prisoners. He's like, hey, he's still robbed of locks at this point. Maybe you shouldn't just randomly kill prisoners. He's like, hey, I know I'm also part of the fighting force that has invaded this foreign country because for some reason the Pope has decided he wants it really badly.

I mean, for some reason, because it's sacred to them, like it is to everybody, not to everybody, but to everybody in the Judeo-Christian Islamic faiths. And probably some other ones they don't remember behind, maybe I don't know about we're not enough about bahai. Guys, I'm trying to cover my faces. I don't wanna leave anybody out.

But he's like, I know as part of this, and I was literally just killing these guys a moment ago, but now I'm the good guy. And so I'm mad about all this stuff. Not mad about it, like mad about you, where it means I'm in love with it. Mad about it, like. That all sort of in love.

I don't know about those guys. But anyway, he's the good guy who thinks they should be treating the prisoners right. So we're the, the, the, the enemy soldier who almost killed Robinhood is revealed to be played by Jamie Foxx. And Jamie Foxx is pleading to save his son who has his head on the execution block. Right before he gets his head chopped off, Rob in an act of sympathy pulls out his sword and deflects an executioner's axe with it which is wild. That's crazy. That would never happen.

In reality probably the axe would just push the sword down and the sword would gun the guy's head off and be like oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm a little, I'm gonna be like, cool move, bro. Yeah, but it would say two hit combo on the screen. And you're like, wow, I haven't done a combo before. It would be like in Barry when he kills that guy and they're like, Barry, you're a maniac. Yeah, awesome. And yeah, he, and there'd be a moment of him like staring at the sky like, why I was trying to be better. Yeah, and then we cut to Robin Hood

in his acting class with Henry Winkler. And Henry Winkler's like, you've got to tell that story Robin. I can't, this is, forget about Winkler is like, you've got to tell that story, Robin. But I can't. Forget about history. Forget about the stories you heard. So, so Rob is turn trainer on his unit. He gets shot in the chest with an arrow.

And they're like, if you weren't a lord, we would hang you. But instead, put him on a hospital boat back to England. I don't know. I don't know. At least two or three times. I just want to throw him out, boys. Yeah. One at least two or three times where Robin gets what should have been a fatal wound

with the medical technology of he olden days when city shakes it off. Yeah. So Taylor Swift. I wish he got shot with an arrow. Yeah, and then she shook it off. It was like Katy Perry, but she was shot with an arrow through the heart. And that arrow was shot by a man named Cupid. And that man is clearly wanted by the police for shooting Taylor Swift with an arrow.

If you've seen a man answering to the name Cupid, please contact local authorities. He's wearing a diaper. He's wearing a diaper. He's wearing a diaper. He's wearing a diaper. I mean, you would think that would be easily to catch, but I guess he's got wings.

So it's hard to catch him. So in the process of Rob Turning Trader, he also released all the captives. And one of those captives who's released is Jamie Foxx's character who grabs a couple of weapons and then sneaks aboard and stows away on the same hospital boat going back to England. Why? I don't know.

We'll find out. So Rob gets home. He goes back to Loxley Manor, which has been, the whole village seems to have been raised. His home has been sacked and is in extreme disrepair. And there's a sign that says it's been seized by the sheriff of Nottingham, which is like, I mean, wouldn't he just have installed one of his own lords into that castle because like, there's money to be made on that land?

Like, you don't just like leave it there. Rather than leaving it as a haunted house, for kids to dare each other to go into because they think a witch lives there. Yeah, like that's where dark man does his research. Well, it's like the, the movie and makes his cool mask, makes his little nose. Yeah. I'll give myself a button nose today. It's the movie. So the sheriff of Notty Ham, he's stealing all this money with his war taxes to pay for the war. But the movie seems to think that the way you tax someone is by going to their house and taking all their money

and then kicking them out of town. And it's like, no, like Stuart's saying, like you keep them working and take the stuff that they're making so that you make more money. It's the very, it's a, I guess what I'm saying is the Sheriff of Nottingham is a short-sighted planner as we'll learn later. The value of Loxley Manor is a short-sighted planner. Yeah, it is. As we'll learn later.

The value of Loxley Manor is probably not in the like furniture. So they take me effects. What about his rich pasture lands? Burn the mice, I suppose. I'm really interested in the tapestries. I want to take them on Antique's road show to get an extensive of the worth and they go on palm stars. Really get my money. So Robin shows up to the confessional where he bumps into his old pal Tuck who had been narrating earlier.

His old pal that we've never met before. Yep. And also why does he go to the confessional? Probably to find Tuck, so you can find out what's going on. So we find out that Robin had been falsely pronounced dead by the sheriff two years ago and that his lands had been seized and that other lands had been seized. And the commoners have been forced to work in the mines, which is kind of like the narrows in Batman Begins. Yeah.

Not the first of many comparisons to Batman Begins' movement. Yeah, because this movie is kind of cobbled together from the parts of Batman Begins, Casablanca, the Hurt Locker, like other movies. It's like, they're like, we're gonna stitch together a Frankenstein of movies and then put Robin Hood's brain in it. And hopefully it'll shut her around and act like a movie. It kind of reminds me of the recent Devil May Cry remake, the DMC remake, which is the same like the same kind of design

and everything. And Tuck is a cool priest, like the priest from Fleabag. Not as incredibly hot, but the same sort of. No, not at all. I would say not a cool priest. Same sort of attitude. He's not a cool priest at all. He's a goofy, lovable priest.

He's any, he's what I'm saying. I'm cool in that he doesn't seem to like be like, you're at your average, like God. Well, he's the monk who's like. That's like a guy. He's casual, everybody in calm, but he's the only one who truly believes in the words of Christ. Yeah.

Everyone else is Viennall and I'm hungry. But he's got like long greasy, stringy hair and like a beard. And he's always like, oh, we're making jokes. And he's kind of what I would call Russell Brand X. Oh, yeah. You can't get the real Russell Brand to get Russell off Brand's.

Yeah, I was going to say that like the casting notes were like, give me 10% Bill Bailey. Yes, no. 100% I bail. Yes, I know. 100% I actually had to make sure he wasn't bill bailing. And you're like, wow, bill bail looks great. So the problem was bill bail he didn't come home. And they're saying, what's he come home? No, no, no.

Why would you come home? People wouldn't do it. So they got this guy instead. OK, so. So Sheriff of Nottingham's taken over everything. And I forgot, did you say what's going on with Marion? Yeah, so Robin goes to Track Down Marion, who is operating some kind of a soup cart in the narrows.

And this is another one of those things where it's like, how do I show she's a heroic character? I know she'll be feeding the poor of the minds, which is stolen from Metropolis, I think. Like I mean, I'm sure that dinner originate Metropolis, but it's just like the whole movie is just pieces of other movies thrown into a pot, into a rich stew, a rich gumbo. And while she's feeding some poor people, all of a sudden Jamie Dornin walks up with like a really fetching cardigan combo on her. And she gives him a kiss and you're like, oh, fuck.

You're like, no, he's gonna be controlling. Like, he might spank you in a way you enjoy, but he's gonna take over your life. Yeah, it's a real bummer. I think you mentioned in the clothes, I feel like to set the scene we should mention also that no one's wearing like period really specific clothes. They're wearing the classic like everyone's wearing kind of like leather and button downs and things that are not exactly and like torn scarves, like not exactly old but not exactly

new. Yeah, like cosplay version of Robin Hood kind of. Yeah, yeah. As we're introduced to the Sheriff of Nottingham played by Ben Mendelssohn, it feels like they were like, not only do you want to, do we want you to basically bring your character Orson Crenick into this movie, but also bring his outfits.

There's not like these shots of him putting on his long leather duster and I'm like, is that the same coat that he was wearing in Force Awakens? Oh, no, it's in Rogue One like this That it's he must have stolen it from the shoe he puts on that coat after he brushes his hair with two brushes Simultine I'm like give me more of this like where's that confidence when you're playing your evil plots? I will say this just off the bat then the men then menelssohn is the bright spot in this movie for me. Yeah, he's always great.

He's always great and he just knows how to like, hammer it up and chew the scenery and they give him a couple of super bad guy speeches about like his sad past and then about how he, I want the hood boiled in his own piss and it's like, he's such a like, he's really hammered at that old fashioned stuff. Yeah, and then the movie delivers probably the greatest gift a movie can, which is they take

Ben Mendelssohn and then they, uh, one up it with an F-Mari A-brand. Oh, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Oh, man, it's amazing. So Robyn's obviously distraught. He doesn't know what to do. And then he gets jumped by, uh, Jamie Foxx. And who wouldn't want to be jumped by Jamie Foxx? Hello. Who then recruits Rob into his, uh, eternal, his Twilight struggle is eternal war against the Catholic church and the rich. The rich and the powerful. Yeah, the rich and the powerful. He's a real, he's a real, the richer, causing these wars to keep the poor down, Da-da-da, which is partly true or not. Yeah. I mean, like, and Jamie Foxx is like, cause is, is just, but I'm sort of surprised that Rob, you know, converts to it so quickly, like, he seemed a little disgusted by what he

saw in the crusades and, and like, obviously, like, the, the, um, sheriff is like, overreaching his power, but he's also still like, a, a noble, like, for all of his life. And like, immediately, he's like, yeah, yeah, fight the power. Yeah, because as soon as he lost all his riches, he was like, I got to get me back on the pyramid, get me to the top. Yeah. And it was his way to do that. It's through violence.

Yeah. I did it. And her and in any power system is the threat of violence or the use of violence. And so I'm going to definitely use that. There's no way to enforce property ownership without the oppression of the property owner less. Yeah. Can I say speaking of violence? I'm not one who usually like objects to like a lot of violence in a movie like normally like I'm like whatever. This is, you know, it's like

fake. But like Robin Hood shoots so many people with arrows in this movie. The body count in this movie is enormous. And like they're just like, I mean, they're not innocent, I guess, in the sense that they're taking part of this corrupt system, but they're not like bad guys. Especially for a guy who was already drafted into a war. I assume most of the like faceless guards, because they all have helmets on, which makes it easier to kill them,

because you can dehumanize them. They're like, when you put a mask on your enemy, you're not killing the enemy, you're killing the mask, and therefore psychologically it's okay. The, uh, that I assume most of them were also like farmboys who got drafted by the sheriff into being guards. They don't know any better and Robin was just slaughtering them left and right. Also, he's so amazing with his bone hour that the arrow goes, arrows goes straight through armor, which is like arrows are like bullets in this. I'm not saying that we Robin had never killed anyone but like traditionally he was more of a like you like

I don't know he's more of a puckish figure like it's like time bandits where he is innocent and his men just The I mean the argument about arrows Elliot. I mean Historically speaking during the hundred years war the English longbowman were known for being able to put arrows Straight through the French plate mail. That's why. Now, like, they- From point-blank range? Yeah.

I mean, because they were trained from, like, a very young age to be able to pull back these longbows. Oh, I see. And so that they're able to out-range Genoese crossbowmen and they can also put a- there's more strength behind the shot. And that's why the majority of the French nobility were killed in azure and. Yeah, me and ad azure core they were doing a lot of like spins and flips. Yeah, like firing it guys that that are behind them and things like that.

Well, yeah, it was it was also called the birth of the legolas movement. And and what is so Jamie Foxx going to train him and tell us more about this sheriff. What's he, is he at all a, a thin analog for modern day warmongers? Oh, of course. So Ben Mendelssohn shows up brushing his hair with two coms, I mentioned. He addresses people at like, at like a town hall, where you have your nobles up top and then your commoners below, uh, the top party in the back and the Mary and Jamie Dornin's character Will Scarlett I just call him Will though right yeah and they're like kind of they like shout back at him it's very like I don't know it's got to hide.

It's strange because like the sheriff is like up there it seems like justifying his taxes to the people I guess maybe he would do that to keep them from revolting, but like, it seemed like if he's in that sort of power at that time, where he's not like an elected official, like, why is he bothering to be like, this is why we're taxing you? And he's using some very, like very thin modern arguments. We're fighting them over there so that they, because they want to come over here and they infect our courts, our schools. They hate our freedom. They're, he literally says they hate our freedom, which is nuts in futile times.

Like, if freedom does not exist and that, and what do you have then will and Marion can heckle him with no repercussions? Yeah. Which also seems crazy. I guess it's the right of an Englishman. The, the great moment is then when Friartuck shows up and he's like, yeah, Robin, Robin of Loxley slide, which, okay, I guess, I guess Robin of Loxley slide, everybody knows it.

And they're kind of shocked. So they have to delay the war tax vote for a little bit. Because Robin of Loxley isn't around. And so the full council is that they're, it's one of those movies too, like V for Vendetta where there's an evil government that has like three or four people in it and everyone at all the peasants, they hate this government. Oh, they don't want to do bad things. They don't like it. And it's such a, it may be so mad because it's like, when there's a bad leader in charge, it's usually because he's appealing to a lot of people who believe in them. There might be some who don't, but

like anytime there's been a dictator who's taken over a country, it's never like 98% of the country hates him and 2% likes him. It's a foolish thing for it to be like, everyone's like, oh, that Ben Mendelssohn. I don't like what he does, but what can I do? He's the sheriff. Well, there's nothing we can do. There's only 100,000 of us, you know? We then do a little bit of background with Robin. He is trading with Jamie Foxx who we are introduced were given his name

And then there's the most obvious joke which is Robin can't pronounce his name Arabic name, so they just call him little or they call him John. Yeah, not little John. Yeah, they just call him John Little John different guy. So they plan on stealing money to also a different John. They start planning their in-locksly manner. They start coming up with plans for stealing money because they think that if they steal money it will undermine the sheriff's power. And without money that he'll, you know, they'll be able to mess with the system. And they'll cut off funny to the war too.

That's part of it. If they cut off funny to the war, then the real power behind all this will reveal itself because it'll want to know what's going on. Yeah, pull the tail. Pull the tail and see who bites. They keep saying. And but at the same time, he can't just be a vigilante. He also has to be the noble Robin of locks. So he has to 100% to a Batman double life. Yes. Playboy by day, thief by night, dresses in a costume. And then, does it remind you of anybody? A Scarlett Pimpernell.

That's right, the Scarlett Pimpernell. All the blockbuster characters are Scarlett Pimpernell. It's around then when Mary and I... There must be somebody who's been pitching a Scarlett Pimpernell movie, who's like, he's the original superhero. You like your Batman's?

Well then, you wouldn't have Batman without the Scarlett Pimpernell. movie, he's like, he's the original superhero. You like your Batman's? Well then, you wouldn't have Batman without the scholar Pimpernell. So tell me the story, okay? I don't know what a Pimpernell is, but so maybe you can change that. Nope, okay, what's, what's, tell me his story? I know there's a rhyme about him. So it's the French Revolution, okay?

I don't forget it, stop. How about we just call him red? Like the red Pimpernell? It's good, what are we just call him Pimper? Like it's a cool kids version of the Skullping now. It's good. What are we just calling pimping? Like it's a cool kids version of the Scarlet Batman. Alright, you don't think he's the original Batman, but how about this? He's the original Zorro. It's good. But that's the Scarlet Mimping all you don't have Zorro and you don't have Batman. I guess we can go all the way back to Jack Spring heels. I guess the three days of Scarlett Bumpernell. So it's around this point where Marion shows up knocking on the door and John is like,

she cannot know what we're doing or else they'll just kill her, which that's another strange like leak. I don't know why that would be, it's, I mean, it's the thing that happens in all the superhero movies with like no income, no identity and then people learn it and it's fine. Uh-huh. It's great because it encourages the idea of like men having to keep their romantic partners in the dark because their work is too important. Um, so you know what they should have had the scene where he's like, but what if I'm going

to strike by night, I need a costume, a symbol. What should it be? And then like the hooded sweatshirt flasks in the window.. This is it, I'll be a hood. I mean, they kind of do that where he gets this, John gives him the scarf that his son used to wear. Oh, right, right. And he used that as his mask. So we get a cool training montage. We learn that he can just use a regular old bow and arrow. He needs to use a street weapon

that has like knuckle dusters built in and like sharp edges. And he also does like with the training, like there's one of those scenes where Jamie Foxx is like, you gotta do it faster. And he's like, try, knuckle dusters built in and like sharp edges. He also does like with the training, like, there's one of those scenes where Jamie Fox is like, you got to do it faster. And he's like, trying, trying hit me. And like, does the thing where he's like walking towards Rob and the whole time is Rob and keeps like, reloading arrows and he's knocking the amount of the air, dodging them.

And I'm like, all right, this is always like kind of cool when it happened. But at the same time, these, these, these scenes always bother me because I'm like, but what if JB Fox can't do it? I mean, he's like super confident, and he just gets shot immediately in the face. Also, it's like he's trying to get Rob in so mad that I guess he connects with the true archer within. But like, I don't know if you guys have ever done archery

in like summer camp, the less calm you are, the worse you do. Like, the more frustrated angry you get, like the shitty, you're your bow at your shooting gets. So like, I don't know, but also we see he and they invent weight training. They would invent great graduated weight training. Sorry, Milo, Cretonia, I guess he's still on your idea.

Wow. And also Jamie Foxx makes himself a badass metal stump cover for his arm. Yeah, that he like heats up super hot then sticks his stump and he's like, ah. Now why didn't he wait for it to cool down? A lot of doctor do. I think he wants to, I think you want to like melt it all together, which seems like a mistake.

Like those burns, yeah, it's not going to heal. I'm not going to breathe. No, medieval medicine. He's going to lose that arm. So they play on stealing and then donating the money to get close to the sheriff. So he kills a bunch of guards in the rain, you know, the best time to use a bone arrow. He's robbing a toll gate. He robs a toll gate delicious cookies. Yeah. He kills some like cartoonishly villainous guards who are like time to pay the toll and then they

just start like body slamming people. And then he immediately a bunch of money to the church. He makes it rain at the church at the collection plate and everyone's like, oh, awesome. And the sheriff's like, hmm, I think you'll really help us capture the youth vote. And here's something that I thought was really weird. Is that like Robin is talking to the church. And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry. And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry. And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry.

And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry. And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry. And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry.. And here's something that I thought was really weird. Is that like Robin is talking to, I don't remember who, and then John shows up and is like, oh Robin, we have to go. And I'm like, so it's not weird to anybody that this more is walking around England,

just kind of like how you do hang and out with Robin. And like it's this weird colorblind version of the old England where we see a few people of color and crowd scenes where we're like, yeah, when Robin and Dustin, but it's very weird to set something during the Crusades and yet have this like, I guess idea of like a multi-ethnic Mary Old England where literally the guy that was a Captain of the Captain is just walkin' around

and everyone's like, oh, I guess that must be his butler like I don't it's it really threw me off that that Jamie Foxx Which could just walk around Old England with impunity without people having at least questions about it But I guess this isn't your daddy's old. Yeah, I think they warned you about that right up front Rob immediately brushes off Mary and he's like, I don't got time to talk to you And then he then immediately goes and robs from the church collection. Tuck is there, but he does not hurt Tuck. At one point, I think, my next note refers to, you know, the sheriff finds out about the robberies and this hood character going around, and he gets super angry about it, and he does

it in the presence of Tuck, and T Tucks like, do you want to confess to your friar? And I'm like, did friars do confessionals? Like, I mean, I guess they could probably, they are men of the cloth. I don't know specifically. I mean, friars usually were just at monasteries for the most part, right? Yeah. I mean, they could perform weddings. So I think it could probably take confession too. I mean, by back then, the church like hadn't, I mean, they hadn't split the English church and split off from the cat like so maybe things were a little different. I don't know. So Rob over here's Marion talk about after he leaves a little pouch of money for Marion. He overhears that she wishes he would just give it to the poor. So he

rides around the narrows, throwing money at everybody, going, who are you gonna trust? Me or Batman? And there was like, I thought you were all Batman. Like I thought you were the Batman before Batman. And that's why we couldn't trust the stories. Like you'll move a Batman then all daddy's rubbing hood.

And they're like, how did you get that amazing accent? You study that? Then we're in like And they're like, how did you get that amazing accent? You study that? Then we're in like, the sheriff's like, I wish no there was a scene where Robin was just, I mean, he's right, he rises horse through the town and like a real rich stuck up asshole just throws money on the ground and lets the poor people scramble for it. But not kind of which,

that he was just hurling at people's faces like trying to handfuls of coins and people's faces. Hey, poor, here you go, poor guy, hey, poor O. Just like, trying to hand me the coins and people's faces. Hey, poor, here you go, poor guy, hey, poor O. Then we're in like the, the sheriff's like evil salon with all the nobles and, and Rob's there and he suggests, you know, because he's doing his like double thing, he's trying to win over the sheriff's trust.

He, he suggests maybe putting out a big bounty on the hood and, and he'll put up the money. Yeah, and then the sheriff like kicks out all the the lords and then we get like his complicated backstory about how he was raised poured an orphanage and he was abused by the very lords that were sitting in the room with them. And we get some like kind of confusing hierarchy about who's in charge. I could never quite tell, like they were talking about maybe like hanging one of the lords. It was just kind of strange. It's, here's my guess.

Is he the king? What's happening? The king's agent in the county. Yeah. And the lords have there, because we don't know what year it is. We don't know if this is before or after the magna, I guess we do know years.

It's the third crusade. So like, when they're like, what year it was, I don't remember at the beginning. It's like, well, it's the third crusade. So like, when they're like, what year it was, I don't remember at the beginning, it's like, well, it's the third crusade. We know in that happened, right? But like, so I don't know if that was pre- or post-magnacard of it. Like the Lord's habit of...

We should be able to watch that movie that I recommended. I can't remember what it's called. Like, Siddler or something about the Magnacard. Yeah, this... Stronghold or something? So like the Lord's have a certain power, but they're not in control,

but the sheriff seems to work for the church more than the king. Yeah. It's all in like, Friartuck works for the sheriff, which I thought was really weird. Like, it's not clear to me who, and maybe that's just how it was back then.

I don't know. I didn't live then, you know? Yeah, and that'd be the intention is to use the bureaucracy to be confusing, to make it harder for people to move up. Oh, deep state, got it. So Rob is frustrated and he plans on hitting the treasury. So they come up with a surprise plan.

You know, before this, he meets up with Will. And Will is a real like politician. He considers himself like an activist, but he's gonna work within the political system and change things that way. The political system that again does not exist. You cannot move up through the feudal political system from guy who lives in a mine to local establishment guy. Yeah, unless you're like, once again, unless you're Sergeant Richard Sharp and you save Wellington's life in a battle in India.

Yes. And then you get raised up to a different rank and you become part of the officer class. And unless that happens, it's unlikely that you can move up. I mean, I kind of wonder why Will didn't get drafted to go find the crusades. Like, they didn't, again, they weren't really, they weren't drafting Lord so much. Like, the Lord had to raise their men. They were probably expected to go, but like, they probably did that willing link

as what else was it gonna do? Yeah, exactly, but like this guy, but anyway. But will is, but it's like, oh, I see, it's, Marion's gonna have to choose between the like, Rogish guy and the guy who's more of an established voice of the people. It's Castle Blank, everybody. Hey, except the dumb version.

It's a reverse Castle Blank. A classic reverse, Castle Blank, but he's gonna rob the Treasury Uh-huh, so he starts to rob the Treasury and we go right to the action Okay, we don't worry about listening to the whole plan, but during the process he over here is oh no They have a new system because the sheriff is nervous about this hood care to running around the plan immediately goes Orai he starts killing all kinds of people. Yeah. Arrows are flying like bullets, chipping stone pillars as they fly through. Like I got to, I got to believe that, that, like it's just so hard to believe that

arrows and bullets were that similar. I don't know. All these dudes are running around with these, uh, these like repeating crossbows. And he ends up like, after killing a bunch of dudes, he gets shot in the leg and he gets the, gets the bolt out, but he still run around. He eventually has to like jump out of a window and he is barely saved by John who was already prepped everything and they managed to get away. And while he's like, I failed, John's like, no, we got their attention.

Yeah, John like lights a big fire. I'm like, what? I'm like, you don't want their fire. I'm like what? You don't want their attention like the heat is gonna be on you now like and also they had their attention already Yeah, they already hate the hood Yeah, and the commoners are now we see that the commoners have been nailing hoods up on like the rafters to show support It's just a waste of cloth. Yeah, so it like one. Yeah, where are they getting all this cloth from? But also it's such a stupid like show of like, oh, the people love them. It's a protest.

Well, it's like how it hogs and heifers. They decorate the chandeliers with broth. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're like this. There's a restaurant I ate in once in Denver, I think it was, where you're not allowed to wear a necktie. And if you do, they cut it off you and they nail it to the wall. There's a wall in neck ties.

Wow. And I went there with a coworker, and he deliberately wore neck tie, and they were like, well, gonna cut it off, and it was a cowboy theme place. And he's like, sir, and he made up a whole story. He was like, my father on his deathbed gave me this neck tie. You wouldn't have this to marry me to cut it.

And when they cut it off, he was like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, he even put on a big cartoon face about it. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, you can't cut that off. It's just a brightly colored skin tag. And he still did. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh, save me some medical bills. He's just a skin tag with a hula girl painted on it. Yeah. The, uh, so, uh, we also find out that the, that the archdeacon is coming. Or no, the Archdeacon is warning that the cardinal is going to come

and that he's warning of treason. And he talks about the cardinal showing up like the emperor, like an evil warlock. The church is so openly evil and openly sinister in this. And you're like, the whole time you're like, do you not realize that they're all super evil? Like I don't understand.

Everyone you work with talks like an evil sorcerer, you know? Yeah, and we see that the church, like firmly has the sheriff's fortunes in their hand. Like, he is beholden to the church. Yes. And also, and that, and Tuck is there the whole time. He's kind of listening in. And we also meet that the, the sheriff has brought in

an elite team of hunters to hunt down this hood. That's right guys, it's the super posse from Butch Cassidy and the sudden answer. And you're like, Bosch and Zucka some forelom. Yeah, if they're like mercenaries, we don't need their scum and then Bosch is there and goes, errrr, wait, help, wait, so there's, okay. It's not, it's not your daddy's rubber. I can under, okay, so I'll buy that in medieval England,

they also have people of color who are just Englishmen. But that trend of shans are there, like lizard men are there. I don't understand. Yeah, I mean, they're jerks. And so it's his old army buddies. It's his old unit led by a guy of Gisborne who's got a new like new facial hair. And he's talking basically like Lobo from DC Comics.

I'll call him a bastard, too. Uh oh, I hear it has a personal connection to the villain. This will come into play never. No, it's sort of. It's sort of a story. I mean, they're kind of leading you up to a big rob and guy Gizborn confrontation that does not have that. Not really.

Yeah, if you're hoping for payoff, you're gonna be hoping, you're gonna be left wanting. Stuart, it sounds like it's time to throw a big costume party. Oh, yeah. The cardinal's coming and Rob gets invited to the party, along with Mary and in Will, and a couple of other commons, which is weird. It's so weird.

They're like, we're gonna throw this big, hedonistic, basically Gatsby-esque, eyes-wide, shut Casino Knight for the Cardinal. Yeah. Yeah. Let's invite some of the poor people, like, you gotta be quiet. Well, their characters in the movie are they? No, they're a little color.

Yeah, so they can watch us play Casino games and make very obvious comments about how poor people don't deserve money and stuff. This is also the part where the costuming just gives up on being in any way period specific. Like, they're just wearing Las Vegas showgirl. Which is, I mean, at least it's like fun to watch. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it is, it is the party scene from the Great Cat's Beat. Yeah. But in a castle, like the Lord, the Great Cat's Beat. We're also, we also are believing that Tuck, we now know that Tuck and Marion also have a secret plan.

But they have something going on. We're like, oh, that's so many secret plans going on at once. Two. I guess three, the bad guys plan also. We see in the party in the casino, Tuck manages to steal keys from the Lord character whose name I don't remember. Now here's my question. Is Tuck supposed to be dressed as a Jew?

He's wearing all black with a black hat, and he already looks Jewish because he's got that long hair and a beard. Like, and everyone else is dressed in costumes. So I was like, he doesn't look like, he's not dressed like a monk, but like, I was like, is he going as a Jewish person for the carnival night?

He seems to be like balding, but that's not a tansher. No, it's no. And he covers it up with a Yamaka. That was, but his costume is so dour that I was like, so is he? Like it was just very weird to me. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I was carrying a menorah.

He did keep saying, no, so we have a plan. No. And he's like a party. Where's the cake? Famously. Do you always look at real cake? I mean, I'm party. Don't mind it, Elliot. You're always look at real cake. I mean, I'm party, don't mind it, Elliot, you're always sniffing out cake. Always looking at, look at, yeah, thank you for making it an animalistic thing too. I appreciate that, yes, as it fits my people, the Hebrew race,

or all of it, it's on the hunt for cake. Using their, using their snouts. That's what Dan was saying. Yeah, that's why in Nazi Germany, of course, we had to wear yellow badges in the shape of the cake. It was yellow cake. So, Tuck Manges to... That was so funny. There's some racist summer who just doesn't know what they're talking about. They're like, gotta keep my cake safe. Tuck Manges to do a little slight of handy steals keys from the Lordy, pass them to Marion.

Marion uses these keys to break into his office and go through some paperwork. Cause they got to follow the money. Yeah, right then, the Cardinal arrives and fuck yes, F. Murray Abraham. Fuck Mary Abraham. Yeah, that's good. And then if you were playing

fuck Mary Abraham. We've talked about on the show before. I'll actually lean into Stuart's notes cause I was like, Mary Abraham. Yeah, that was cool. You guys, if you were playing Funk Mary Abraham? We've talked about on the show before. I'll actually lean into Stuart's notes because I was like, there's something that's written in like twice as big as anything else with three action movies after it. And I'm like, oh, that's F-Merry Abraham. F-Merry, you mentioned his accent.

It is glorious. But he seems to be playing the same characters when he was on Louis as Louis CK's uncle. Oh, yeah. He was from an indeterminate foreign country and like told an anecdote that made no sense. And you're like, well, he's got this great costume. And he's got this great accent.

Does he have a great wig? Oh, yes he does. Oh, yeah. A guy's, have I mentioned before, how I saw F.M. Ray Abraham on stage in a play? Probably a time. He was playing God in a debate with Marklin Baker. Marklin Baker was a loving new, like kind of modern God.

And if Marie Abraham was an old testament, hateful God, and it was very funny. So we, the Cardinal takes the share of a side. They go to an office. They start talking about an evil. They start doing some evil planning. And we robbing manges to break into this meeting by winging a plan that involves grabbing Tuck and using him as bait. He's like, Tuck, do you trust me? And then he starts revealing the Tuck is stolen some keys from one of the lords. Before Tuck gets murdered,

Rob's like, wait a minute, rather than murdering him, why don't we take away his job? And they're like, oh, the most evil thing you can do. This economy. So we then they like defrock him and kick him out. And then we hear this instantly puts Robin in the confidence of both the sheriff and the cardinal. And they're like stick around as we unveil our evil plan.

The craziest plan where the sheriff is taking all this money to give the church because they have a deal with an Arabian army commander so that they can funnel money to the Muslim forces so that they can win the war and then the church and the sheriff can depose the king of England. It's such a crazy plan for many reasons, but here's two that I want to mention. Uh-huh. One, the implication, I mean, if there's, I mean, maybe they're just funding these guys to keep them going, but the implication that I think a set at one point is, oh, they're paying the Arabs to fight the

English, which the English have invaded Arab lands. So like, I don't think the Arabs needed, they were like, oh, yeah, yeah, come on in and take over our holy places. Oh wait, you're gonna pay us to fight. Okay, but also, they're so excited about the English crown. And at that time, like the church was the most powerful organization in the world. Like England was like not the prize it is today. It's a, it's like, it's a weird thing that they'd be like, we got to hold this crusade so that we can take over England. This tiny island nation full of poor people, Stewart. So, tell me why it's a great plan.

So at this point, like encouraged by the cardinal, the sheriff decides that the only way they can get extra money for the war tax because Rob's stealing it all is to go to the narrows and basically burn down all the names. Well, it's the mines here. Yeah, but it's the same thing. Goes there and steal all the money from the commoners and burn down their homes and

he doesn't care. And then we see that Marion has snuck out of that room with the contracts. Marion, the librarian, if you you will know that she has the documents She has the she has the documents proving that the cardinal and the sheriff have a deal with is Arabian general She's FBI The papers that what the post is about It is funny that they have a contract that's in Arabic that they all signed.

Like this silly thing. So finally we can impeach this guy. It's also like usually when you funnel money illicit lead to a secret organization, you don't have it, you don't have a written contract. No, you got everything written down and she shows these contracts to her boyfriend Will and she's like, we should act on this and will's like,

no, this could ruin my political career. Like, I've been putting so much time into building up my power within this structure. This is shown by nothing. All we've seen him do is heck all the sheriff ones. He's like, this could ruin me. They'll come down on me and we realize, uh-oh, this guy doesn't have the courage of his convictions.

He's just a poser. And this is when I looked at the movie and I'm like, there's 43 minutes. Okay. So the forces of darkness, a show up in the minds, they start taking everybody's money, uh, the young urchin, whose relation to Mary and I don't know, named Penny gets taken, assuming because her name is Penny and they thought she was money. Without a witch, put a spell on a penny, spell on a penny, like in those old penny,

claymation cartoons that were on a, what show was that? Nickelodeon. No, the penny cartoons were on Peeley's play. Oh, that's right, not exactly. Yeah, Peeley's play. They thought that that's what happened. That someone had turned, had taken pennies and made a girl. And then she meets a dinosaur.

And finally find out what happened. And and Guy of Gizworn is leading these troops. And it's like, this is real mission creep. I thought you were brought in to stop the hood. And now you're just enforcing the tax laws. I mean, I think in his head, he's like, by doing this, we're going to pull the to use the words of another character in this movie, pull the tail

and see who bites. So they're trying, he's trying to draw out the hood. I see. And in the process, he and Marion get a little scuffle, so it gets a little more personal. And then they capture Marion, and then when Rob sees that Marion's in trouble, he's like, well, I gotta do something. And he and John attack and John's like, where then he was roasting hot dogs on the burning homes of the mind.

And he's like, we gotta do something and John's like, oh, there's too many of them. And he's like, there's not enough. I'm going to bury all these fools. So they attack, then we get a sweet stage coach chase guy. Big horseback chase. Yeah. This is awesome through the mines. There's, there's a point where a giant molten thing of metal crashes behind them as they run away, like a giant explosion and so awesome. I also wrote down that I hope no horses got hurt in the sequence because it's not cool enough. No, but it was super cool though.

I mean, you know, art is art. Sometimes you have to suffer. So they're on. Wow. So they're having this chase through the droid factory of geonosis and what have it's the Donkey Kong Country minecart race. Uh, the turn of corner and a ballista shoots an exploding bolt and they all jump off it and they're like, here we go again.

And then John's like, next time you drive. And I got a bad feeling about this. And then they start to get surrounded. That should never tell us me the odds. They start getting started, you got more. No. They start getting surrounded. If you give me a minute to think,

it really seems like a waste to the podcast. And John's like, you guys leave. And he fights for a little bit, and then he gets captured. And Robin, Mirion, escape. And Rob has a moment of doubt. Yeah, he's like, you don't know why. And she's like she obviously still has feelings for Rob and he's like and she knows he's the hood. I forgot to mention this that like while he's

rescuing her she sees him in full costume but she knows immediately it's him. She somehow recognizes his face and voice. Yeah, yeah. And just like body, you know like how you can sometimes just tell her she knows his body. Yeah, yeah, intimately. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and just like body, you know, like how you can sometimes just tell her she knows his body. Yeah, yeah, intimately. Yeah, as established from the beginning of the movie. Well, it's those things were like if a friend of mine is wearing like a ball of clover or something like that because it's cold out or they have a scarf over there from their face and they're robbing or robbing a bank. Like if it's like I can still recognize them. Like it's not like I'm like stranger. Get away from me. They pulled their scarf down. I'm like, oh, Dan, thank goodness.

I thought you were a monster or a thief. No, you were just wearing a scarf, and he puts a scarf back up and I go, ah, stranger. So she's clearly sympathetic to both his cause and the hood's cause. And he says, you don't know me, the hood's a disguise. And she's like, no, I think Rob's, it's stupid.

It's a stupid moment where it's like. Is it all the stuff people say about Batman that Bruce Wayne is the mask of Batman? Yeah, and it's this moment where you're like, you're just forcing problems here. Yeah. Like as much as you claim that you want Mary and back in your life, you don't.

You just like being a free wheel and maniac. So John has been captured and he gets threatened by Ben Mendelssohn and a pretty fun scene because like, I gotta say like Jamie Foxx is pretty a pretty fun scene because like, I got to say, like Jamie Foxx is pretty good in this movie. Oh, I agree. They're both top scenery churrs and it's fun to see them going at each other. Yeah, his character is like, wrote badass, dude, but he's, you know, charismatic guy.

So it's fun to watch him. Yeah, he's super fun. And every any minute you're like, is he gonna start playing, get hit the road, Jack? He's just gonna break out in it. Yeah, at this point, there's a big meeting of the commoners. Will is trying to make an argument that like they should, they should leave the minds, strike out elsewhere, and he wants to like lead them to freedom kind of. And then the hood shows up, with Marion and he makes, and he reveals himself which is a strange choice. Yeah, it just shows penis to everybody. Yeah, he reveals himself.

And he gets everyone to decide to fight alongside him and the commoners are with him and Will looks over and that's when he realizes the hood really is a thief. He stole his girl. Oh, that would be the scene of an in 80s movie where Will's best friend would come over and try to reassure him and Will would push him away. He's just so mad. Yeah, and look, I, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Maybe I should save this to like the moment that Will does a heel turn because he's gonna do a heel turn.

But Jamie Dornan, in a way, he's so nice guy. What am I? One of my problems with this movie is like, it's like class politics are so fucked up because I feel like it betrays the character of Will. Like it sets up this character to be this, you know, like this of the people revolutionary. And the movie is like, no, no, no, we don't need that.

We need a rich guy to come down and save these commoners. And then that'll be cool. Yeah, we don't, you know what? Let's reveal that the guy who comes up from the people is actually just selfish and greedy and the rich guy is a selfless hero. Yeah. He's the one that we, he, that's what we, I mean, the movie is, and I'll just, I'll not just skip ahead plot-wise, but to say like, the movie then starts playing on a lot of like, occupy type imagery. Yeah. And it is this movie that like, really is cloaking itself in what it thinks are like cool modern ideas. And it is this movie that like really is cloaking itself

in what it thinks are like cool modern ideas. And I have to admit, like, it's very open about the idea that like the religious order is bad. And that like, it's very open about like ruling authority and the organized religion is evil, which is. And police tactics are shitty. Yeah, our bad.

And which are fairly, you know, radical ideas to have in a big budget, entertainment thing. But it's still all about like, we need one guy who's a rich guy to step in, do all the fighting because he's the best and the toughest, and the only way to get what we want is through violent action where we take no prisoners. It's like a really regressive movie.

A bit like great man theory of history. Yeah, it's a really aggressive movie that thinks it's a progressive movie and it dresses itself up in these ideas of like modern warfare and like there's a scene coming up where it seems like Rob is having some kind of PTSD attack. Yeah. And like it feels a lot like what it must have been like to be in the 60s and see the movies where it's like,

this hippie has to take down the local drug dealer. And it's like, he's a cop, but he's also a hippie, you know? Like Billy Jack sort of thing. Yeah, I'm gonna kick my way to Jett Sos or Jett Sos. Yeah, exactly. Like to be like, what the fuck? Like, you're just gonna take the same old shit and dress it up like modern clothing.

So that we seem cool. Like Like it made me very mad. So the people have joined Rob and they have this big like preparing montage so that they can steal the funds that the big order of money that the Cardinal is sending to the Arabian general. They have one last chance because it's about to ship out all the money that's going to the Arabs. And the and part of his argument to sway the people to his side is that, that the sheriff is taking their money to give to the Arabian army. But it's like, I thought you were sympathetic to their side too, dude. Like you can't, like the argument, he was, he seemed swayed by the brutal tactics of

the English army, the invaders. And all of a sudden, he's like, well, everybody, they're trying to help the Army that is defending themselves, isn't that terrible? He's, I think Rob is the real master politician that he will say whatever the crowd he's talking to wants to hear. Or whatever the scene needs to move the platform. I mean, that's true too. He'll say whatever the movie needs to like just keep going. So there's this big preparing montage where they're like everybody, all the commoners come together just keep going? So there's this big preparing montage where there are like everybody, all the commoners come together and they're building stuff. And this is the point where I'm like,

in any actual situation, one of these people would be like, well, I know who the hood is, I'm gonna go tell the sheriff and get money for it. And then they'll just stop this, but that doesn't happen. No, it said they all put on hoods. And this is when they would, if they had the guts,

they would have played that song from Ghostbusters 2, is it? And it's like, is that the one? It's like when they're gearing up to finally defeat Vigo, that take control song? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bible is with gonna have to take control. I mean, yeah, it's all about the ancient, but the French one's on table. The whole, the whole, the call of the ghostbusters and the end control. I mean, yeah, he's all they're doing about that. He's on the table. He called the coolest buses in the end control. I mean, they could have done. Don't be cruel or a rony.

Yeah, yeah, see. And he's sort of gearing up popsong. Yeah, yeah. Firework. So Jamie Foxx is lying on the ground and they give him a bowl of food that they spit in. And he had butts the bowl, which is pretty cool. And then he hides a chunk of ceramic piece in his mouth that'll be used later. He is not just like, oh man, my food. I guess I'll eat this. Like an elephant licking the salt rocks inside a cave. I guess I'll just eat the ceramic walls of myself.

We see, this is how I'll escape. I'll eat my way out. We see the money convoy, like the money train being put together, as the money train is moving down the street. Money stage coach, got money stage coach. The Rebels attack, as we mentioned, it's very like antifa type. They've all got scarves over their faces. They've got Molotov cocktails and things like that. And they're like waving sticks. And it's very like the 1999 WTO protests in Seattle, that kind of stuff.

John Manges is to escape using a piece of ceramic lodge in his mouth to cut a guy's throat, kind of like glass, right? Classed something like that. Yeah, he did. I thought you meant the material, but I realized now you mean the character. Yeah, the character glass.

So yeah, we have, you know, rioters versus riot cops. All the finally we see guys armed with shields and like stun batons or like cudgles. I mean, they just should have brought out modern riot police at that point. And it would have been like the end of mother where all the air as our art smashing together at once. And it has the history of man takes place in this one house. What a great movie, huh? What a crazy turn that movie takes. But then in retrospect, you're like, oh, it makes perfect sense. So the wall, wall, the ride is going on. They match to undermine the money cart. And it collapses through the, through the ground. And they have a tunnel underneath. And they rob them. So they're on the mind if I'm telling it, it's been getting way. Yeah.

And then, and then Rob shoots the lock off because, you know, that's a gun basically. And then, and I'm so surprised that at some point they didn't have a crossbow silencer in this movie. And the sheriff is trapped on the other side of like a fire wall, and he's like, and that's not computer stuff, I'm talking about an actual wall of fire. And he's like, get me to that cart. So his men use their shields to part a fire wall. Like, it's pretty weird. So this isn't your daddy's physics.

So they forget everything you know about reality. So they're stealing the money out of the cart and transferring to other carts. The sheriff's forces led by Guy Geesborne surround them and start shooting down into the hole. Rob gets shot. It's the battle of the crater all over everybody. Am I right, Civil War buffs? Yeah. Rob gets shot and he and Mary and have a moment of romance just in time for Will to show up and see it. And it distresses him so much he gets knocked on the head and drops his fire, his petrol bomb at his feet and he burns himself up. Will we have a two-face

moment and maybe so they're like, let's get this out. You got to be pretty shocked by seeing you grow up with another guy to drop a petrol bomb. Your feet, he's like, don't need these trainers anymore. He's more in jumps down there. He's more in don't need these trainers anymore. He's born, he's just down there. He's not really born because she likes to jog. He's born, jumps down there to try and kill Rob. And we had this great like lobo moment. And then, like pretty quickly Rob beats him up and he's like begging for his life. And Rob doesn't kill him, which is crazy.

He's killing so many people. Right? Well, Rob is like, hey, this guy saved my life and the crusade. So I can't bring myself to do it. I guess it's a weird moment for after he's murdered. It's because he's not wearing a mask. Yeah, I'm asking what I'm talking about. If he had a mask he would have been like, uh, Ma, who are you?

Stranger, I don't know you. Yeah, yeah. A stranger with, with, with, with guys high in voice. I am so Marion. What does she hit him with a sledgehammer? She likes knocks him out or something. Maybe she kills him. I, I assume she killed him, but, uh, so married. And what does she hit him with a sled change? She looks like noximate on her, maybe she kills him. I assume she killed him, but. I mean, after she knocked him out,

she then stabbed him a bunch. It's empowering the pockets. And Robyn's like, well, my answer gleams, though. She goes, she goes, two in the back of the head, execution style. She shoots a bone arrow into the back. Yeah, very John Wick. So they're about to leave. They're about to leave on boats with the money when they're

like, where is Will? And Rob's like, we got to go back. It's all or none. And I'm like, there's a ton of people left. There's a ton of people. There's no all or none. Most of them are still fighting. It's like say by the bell where there's five students at the school who have names and

personalities and then just nameless background extras. In this movie, there's like the five characters and they're really all who counts and all the nameless villagers who their job is just to go, oh, or yeah, or you know, look sad or happy. Mr. Belding is a sheriff of Nottingham type character, right? He's more like the sheriff of Nottingham from the adventures of Robin Hood who is a buffoon. Uh-huh. Because the real villain in that is guy is a basal ratham's guy of Gizborn, who is a buffoon, because the real villain in that is Bezel Rathbone's guy of Gizborn, who's a real badass. And they have one of the best sword fights, Ham and Aeroflin, and this movie does not leave up

to that sword fight. So is it now? Does it come, now compare it to the sword fight between Bezel Rathbone, Aeroflin, and Captain Blood. Also a great sword fight. I'd say Robin Hood's a little better. Guys, prove me wrong. I would say, is that the one where the music is, battle of the fates and there's lives like...

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and he's like, get out of here. Come on, get it. So Marion finds a burned and beaten will, and he's like, get out of here. Come on, get. And then he draws a real Harry and the Henderson's honor, but for real, he does want her to leave. So Rob has, you mentioned he has this like PTSD moment. He's flashing back to the battles. Yep, and he's seeing the carnage of the riders

being unmasked as the police are struggling to find the real hood. So he climbs up unlike a carriage carriage or something and he's like, it's me, you stop fighting, which why are you doing that, dude? They're not gonna stop. But he's like, you know, on the hood, he reveals himself. He gets captured. He's the hardest thing that we're gonna say.

He gets dragged into that. No, it's just that this is the third time I think that he's revealed himself. He gets dragged into the church, right? It's, are they in a church or a castle or something? No, that's called. So he goes into the throne room and the sheriff. It's a more to use evil center. Yeah, the sheriff is super excited.

He has this like cool, the sheriff has this like cool cage that he's going to lock him up in and he talks about I was going to kill him. Yada Yada. Rob talks a little bit of trash and then he looks up before he gets killed. He looks up and he sees one of those guards has a really cool metal stump. So he it's actually John and disguise and the two of them kill all the guards killing more people and then they wrap a rope around the sheriff's. No rap. all the guards killing more people and then they wrap a rope around the sheriff's no rap well in olden days here's what I'm gonna say it's Robinhood and we're

doing real good it's a real old school crappy rap yeah in Westfield it actually English it's back when just the idea of like sort of talking talking a rhyme was like novel enough that like people are like, yeah, we'll allow anything. We call it Wayne Brady. Yeah. Because that's what he did on whose lens did anyway a lot. So he, yeah, they wrap a, at this point I would have expected the sheriff to pull like a

sword can out and be like super badass, but he doesn't know. They just wrap a rope right. And he's like, you can kill me. I'm the sheriff. And they're like, not anymore. And then they're like sheriff revoked. Well, the, yeah, he says not anymore, which just doesn't make sense.

Yeah. Sheriff revoked. And then the like, rope tracks him up the air and he chokes it off. And like a good movie, like his pockets would have spilled a few coins on the ground. And in real life, he would have pooped himself. He probably pooped and coins falling,

raiding from the sky. I mean, which do I catch? I mean, they're both the same man. Money's just shit we believe is valuable. Yeah, man. That's really cool. Earlier, John and told the sheriff, you're gonna ask for God when you die,

but I'm gonna be the last face that you see. And so that prophecy is for the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess their outlaws at this point, they like all run off and they're setting up their own one of the more important. It's like the last day of summer camp, they're all going their separate ways,

but they're gonna meet up and they're like, see you in Sherwood. Yeah, and they're so happy, they're giving each other high fives, and that we get an ending, but a fake ending, it cuts to black and we hear a two-faced coin being flipped. Something like that. Why so serious?

So, a different guy. Yeah, it's like two faces going to destroy all of Gotham's water. So at this point, we cut to Will Scarlet's heel turn. His face is unwrapped. He is slightly burned. His ears kind of gross. And it turns out that the cardinal offers him the position of sheriff, which again, it, it, it, it, it, bangs real questions about the power structure in England, that the cardinal of the Catholic church is hiring the local constabulary, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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it was only like 33 minutes. And over the credits, there's some kind of song that's like, I don't remember if it was a haven a good time song or if it was like a fight the power type song. Probably about being a hero or something. Yeah, I'm learning all about. Probably about being here. And there's a part in the credits where it's all animated like kind of drawings and they

do a drawing that is a play on the famous image that's become a big graffiti thing of the guy with the Scarfornus mask throwing them all to cocktail during a street protest. And I was like, come on movie. You don't get to co-op that? Yeah, exactly. All right, quick final judgments, because we got to do a live show tonight. That's why we're in a Latkeeta. Woo!

So, uh. Live show. That's right. Hey, thanks for coming to the show, everybody. Oh, I think you're confused. Was this a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, or movie you kind of liked? I'll say that, like, at the beginning, when I was like,

I said earlier, when I thought it was gonna be like dumb in a crazy way, I thought I might like it, but it turned out to be dumb in a way that I said, you know, kind of angered me politically a little bit and bored me, so I say it's bad. Yeah, this is a bad bad bad bad bad. Yeah, this is a bad bad movie.

There's some good bad stuff in it. If you ever real soft spot for like a dumb his like foe historical action movie At least the some of the performances are actually pretty fun and good So I like those. I wish the lead Wasn't so planned and that the whole movie wasn't just stitched together from other movies But whatever so bad bad, bad. I'm gonna say bad, bad, bad, also, more, just like the cloaking itself in ideas that it didn't end images, that it did not earn,

really irritated me, but like, I don't know, maybe in some ways it's a good, bad movie, it's a pretty stupid movie aside from that. So it's like, we've seen worse, worse movies. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty light, so I don't know. Yeah. If you're interested from that. So it's like, we've seen worse, worse movies. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty light. So I don't know. Yeah. If you're interested in that,

I mean, if you're interested in it and then you're not gonna be troubled by our hero just murdering the hell out of a lot of guys, and I'm like a PG sort of way. I mean, there's no blood. It's just like an arrow hits them and they fall down. And then arrows hit him and he gets up and walks away. Yeah.

All right. But he's not wearing armor. So it's the armor. His arrow drives the armor into their body. The armor is the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, I'm Vince. And I'm Teresa.

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We'll be doing a different show from both of those when we're in Los Angeles. And I'm so excited that Stewart will finally knock on wood, knock on wood, knock on wood, knock on wood, tut tut tut. Don't let the evil eye get us. They will finally be able to join us in LA. I don't know, my back's feeling a little like twitchy. No, no. No.

So even if you saw us in LA two years ago, this will be a different show. I'm about to get enough fight with this guy named Bane, but he's just a whim, right? No. Well, I can't help Stewart's back that we are all hunched over a hotel room table. I mean, I'm a master of the darkness. And unless he was born in the dark, I think I got this one.

I love the idea that Bane walks in and batman goes, wait, before we fight, no back stuff, OK? And Bane's like, well, it's kind of what I do. Oh, boy, I gotta really re-strategize on the fly here. Although he would say like, oh, butsman, but back shovel, tie break. Oh, but I'm sort of kind of a vampire. I'm Batman, I have like little spikes on his back,

like a little dinosaur, like a stegosaurus. Then he's a steg a sore man that bad man. I mean have you seen a bat that's like I can't break him over my knee that'll poke my little knee. Vania Vane is like I can't break him over my knee. He's my son Dan explain the riddle. How is this possible? Let's go to letters instead.

The doctor I am Vane. The first letter. The dumbest reaker in the this first letter, the dumbest reaker in the world, is from Jackie last name with hell. It's called J-A-C-Q-U-I. So I doubt it's Jackie Chan. I don't know, maybe he's trying to know. Sure. Jackie says, hi, F-Ellis, what's the dumbest pop cultural arguments you are in the wrong side of

whether being just playing wrong or backing the lesser choice i got to an argument with a girl in middle school that quote no the female lead in brain candy is definitely played by a woman thanks jacky last name with help similar that i once got to an argument when i was a teenager about the movie double indemnity where i was insisting that energygy ravenson was not in the movie i had never seen double in demnity but being a nerdy boy i could not

admit that and so instead i was like no no no and then i finally years later so i was like oh he's the third lady in the film like he's very obviously in it yeah i mean this isn't this doesn't quite answer the question but i want to story anyway was uh... when i went to Max Funcon West, I went to Hodgman and Chuck's, their trivia, their like cool, fun trivia thing. And I was totally worthless the whole time on Terrible, that sort of thing. But there was a question they was like, name all the actors who have played Hannibal Lecter.

And I'm like, oh, I got this one, because I thought for some reason I knew the actor who played Hannibal and Hannibal rising or whatever that fucking movie was, or it's like Young Sexy Hannibal. Not being a sexy Hannibal. Oh, with Matt Snellson, he was always the Hannibal. Yeah, sexy, yeah. Yeah, sexy, young Sheldon, which is a different thing.

Everybody's still Hannibal. That means an amazing twist in the last episode of Young Sheldon, is he eat sort of the other characters? Yeah. And they're like, oh, you thought this was that Sheldon for Big Bang Theory? This is a different show. It would be weird if it was the same Sheldon.

And they'd be like, they didn't mention it through all the seasons of Big Bang Theory. They would be eating people on the side. Is that what Bob Newhart's character is a ghost? That's a show. Has he been eaten by Sheldon? Oh, it's like, it was the phase he went through and he doesn't feel the need to talk about it now that he's an adult So it just never came up. So I I like proudly

exclaimed some name that I don't remember now who I thought was the actor and I was totally wrong and I've been Shamed and will never do that trivia ever again. The one that I that came to my mind is the end of Avengers Infinity War. I always my mind is the end of Avengers Infinity War. I always convinced that at the end of that Thanos had died. Like the power of the gauntlet, you know, overcame him. Because like the next thing you see is... I understand that, I mean, that's just literally... Kim talking to Gamora in this like, like, limbo-y area.

And I thought like, okay, like, he like sacrificed himself to do his mission. And now he's dead. And now he's in heaven as his rightful. Well, we've been some sort of afterlife. I see. Yeah, you guess I'll see his family, talking to the old agrarian or whatever. So that's what I thought and then I was like oh no, he's he's in the next movie. I think it's interesting that Stewart didn't mention his most famous arguing something that's impressive. It's not a certain rip-off-of-olding dog. Oh, that's weird. Yeah, I don't know Maybe we could talk about it after the show because it doesn't sound like something I'm familiar with I will I will mention also something that I realized I had grown up at a certain point when and this is not too

Indoor any personal behavior on the part of the filmmaker involved in this But when I realized that it was not an injustice that Annie Hall had defeated Star Wars for best picture, as a kid it's always like, can you believe that? Annie Hall beat Star Wars? Star Wars is amazing. And then I remember being around 14 or 15 and seeing you in a hall and then going to be like, oh, this is a beautiful movie. Like, oh yeah, that's why beat Star Wars. Because it's about grownups. Okay. Yeah, you were like, there's no wars in the name. That Annie Wars hall. So, so what point does Al V use his mind powers? Yep. This next letter from David T. Last name withheld. OK.

I assume that stands for David the Last name withheld. No, maybe. I those David T and the women. Mm-hmm. Uh. You know, like the famous Robert Almond Phillips under T and the women. Yep.

You took me a moment, and then I was like, I can't believe you said that. I can't believe that's the first thing I thought of. So David writes, Hi floppers, on a recent long haul flight, I felt like it would be a good opportunity to channel my inner Dan and take in that most rare fight of cinematic forms the plane movie. The on board entertainment system even had a number of things I didn't mean to see, including the grand Budapest hotel and Red Sparrow.

I was disappointed to find that upon starting these films, there was a notice saying they had been edited for content. This notice caused me to immediately lose interest for two reasons. The first is just a gut reaction against that kind of censorship. While I understand the airline's desire to prevent an unsuspecting kid a few rows back from seeing something super violent, I feel like that sort of edit fundamentally changes the character of a film. Second, if I did watch that edit, I would later feel compelled to go back and watch the

real version. If I'm going to do that, why watch the censored one in the first place? My questions to you are as follows, and he's got one for each of us. Okay, great. Okay. I'm assuming he's gonna ask Dan about his feelings toward the censorship of the new Final Fantasy remake where they made one of the women's chests smaller. Dan has been raging about it. He said, he really does not. He said, he really does not start that. Yeah. Do not start that rumor. Dan, when on a plane. Do you watch films that have similar content-based edits?

Elliot, as a father, do you appreciate that sort of censorship of plane movies for your children's sake? Stu, on a related note, which is the funnier line from a bad TV editor for an R-rated movie. Quote, I've had it with these monkey fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane. Or, Quote, this is what happens when you fight a stranger in the Alps. People on flopping the free world. PSI ended up watching the unedited Oceans 8. It was fine. So I maybe should take this in order. Damn, on a plane. Do you watch edited films? I do, but I

to have the problem that you do. I wish that they were unedited. I understand the argument for editing them for the sake of other passengers, but I'm chaotic good, and I feel like whatever. People will see what they'll see. It's weird that they headed out the objectionable content with just shots of planes crashing. I will. I will say, I will tell this story. I watched the overnight, which the overnight has long sequences

of Adam Scott and Jason Swartzman nude with prosthetic penises. But, you know. How do you know they're prosthetics? You've seen them with their blood without interviews But you're like compared to the photos I took through their windows. Yeah, yeah, he picked up these sin-effects Part of the thing about it is I think Gloria had a huge special feature about it How they how they achieve the makeup effect? Let's trust that it cases also part of the thing of it is Adam Scott has like a

Micro penis incineration where it'sman has a comically large penis. Oh, I see. But I mean, again, could be possible. But they're like dancing around fully dicks out for a lot of the movie. And I may be, I may be invinging this in my memory, but I believe that there was one point I was watching this movie. And one of the captains announcements came on, which of course, was watching this movie and one of the captains announcements came on, which of course freezing the screen on this dick scene. And I'm just like, oh, I'm like putting my hand

up over the screen. Because you want to touch their penis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, maybe if I wish hard enough, is it like a reverse last action here? Where's my magic ticket? So anyway, that's my answer. L.A., do you appreciate the content editing or do not? I mean, at this point, it doesn't matter to me because when my son is at the age where,

when he's on a plane, he sits in front of that screen and we just put on bubble guppies or something and he just is glued to it. And so he doesn't notice anything else going on in the world around him until it's time to eat pretzels. In which case, we go through our pretzel routine that he and I have that's very cute, where we pretend that we're like wine tasteers. And so we like sniff the pretzels in which case we go through our pretzel routine that he and I have that's very cute where we pretend that we're like wine tasteers and so we like

Sniff the pretzels and then listen to them and look at them really close and then eat them as if they're delicacies I mean, I think it's for us to judge whether that's cute Well, you should see it is objectively adorable. Okay, you get so into it But other than that he doesn't notice. I'm sure I mean, I don't know. If it's the thing is, do they really edit the violence stuff out? Because I know that often nudity gets edited out, but violence and rather the violence get edited out. That's where it's squares. And squares, it's like, the only person

is gonna hear the squares is the person. It's like, you should, your kid should not be watching a movie that you think is objectionable on a plane anyway. So like, if they're all, I think it's for people looking over, other people's shoulders. But that's, well, then squares doesn't matter. You were, they're gonna mow the word with the squares. But like, I think it's, well, I think it's for people looking over other people's shoulders. But that's one in swears, it doesn't matter. You were, they're gonna mouth the word, the swears.

But like, I think it's, first, I think maybe when he gets a little older, I'll be glad about that stuff. But right now, I have no real opinion on it. So that's not the most interesting answer. Stuart, do you have a, we're gonna say the first one, the one from the Monday to Friday. Yep, the snake son of a plight. Monday to Friday is pretty fun. It's really great.

I remember growing up like my favorite one was because it was the one I saw it in for content the most was coming to America and the whole forget you two scene where he's shouting out at the other denizens of Queens. When he's singing and they wanted to shut up. Yeah. How did they edit the scene where they watch the Royal penis? I think it's completely removed. What they do is they add in a shot of plane scratching. it's completely removed. And what they do is they add in a shot of plane scratching. Even on television. Strange. How many Central's? Wow. When I was blowing up, my parents were very loose with us watching loose nudity. So we watched the unedited coming to America off HBO all the time. But we had an editing. All the time constantly looped. They put me in the, it was the loot of eco technique. And I had that they stretched my eyes open. We had an edit for TV version of Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

So the lines and it seemed when he, it's, I'm the line that's in my head and the movie is, Cameron is so tight. If you stuck a piece of coal in his fist in one week, you'd have a diamond. Or later on, Cameron's printing me someone on a phone and he goes, pardon my French, but you sir, are a moron. And when I see the unedited one, I'm like, that's not the line. Hold on, he says moron there. Yeah. I was shocked. I feel like I was well into adulthood before I learned that 16

candles has a brief shower scene. Oh, wow. Yeah. But we just completely gratuitous. By the way, but removing that scene is the most gratuitous offensive thing from that movie you say no no again don't look worse than i know no no let's quote damn the collie on that uh... this last letter is from l remainder of calon and it says hey guys it's me i trapped at that phone please let me out there's an apostor they're recording with you

no no shoot him. I'm the real Elliott. I think we're supposed to shoot your phone, Dan. Wait, which one I know this, which one of them has a goatee? This is from Elle, remainder of first name with held, Isard. So some sort of lizard. OK.

Bloody Isard. Who writes? I have a question that's right up, that's right up Elliot's alley, but Stuart and Dan feel free to weigh in too. Well, it's nice of you. No, no, no, crawl right on my alley. I want it. Stick that question right on my alley.

Oh, God. Come on, get all in there. Oh, wow. My son is almost three. So I've been watching the cars movies over and over. Welcome to my hell. In the first movie. And the first movie, two fans of Lightning McQueen flashed their headlights at him

And he says something like I love my job In cars two made her approaches a vendor at the flea market and that's what she's selling when she says Headlight Monsieur headlights. He seems embarrassed and drives away However in the first movie when Mac finds McQueen he says he's a sight for sore headlights That seems weird since their eyes are in their windshield However, in the first movie when Mac finds McQueen, he says he's a site for sore headlights. That seems weird, since their eyes are on their windshield. So in the world of cars, our headlights boobs came up with a good work, L. Isard. I think they are, and that actually, that joke is one of the few in the cars movies that I find that I don't like,

that I don't like outright on content reasons. As you guys know, long established flopphouse cannon, I don't like jokes in kids movies that play off of like swear words or like references kids wouldn't know or sex stuff. And so like, I think the real problem here though is, why are we mapping human anatomy onto non-human figures? Why are we assuming that one, cars bear live young that require milk feeding, they're not mammals, they don't have hair. Or two, that cars are sexually attracted to the same types of body parts that we are. And also sexually attracted to a body part that is exposed at all times. Exactly.

You think they'd be attracted like they'd pop their hoods and show their engines. And that's what like hustler in the car's world shows. Is the girls pop their hoods? Have our imaginations gotten so limited? Yeah, there's a line in a theater sturgeon short story where an alien is talking about a car and says something along lines of why would they only streamline the parts that they could see?

Why would they streamline the whole thing? Or something like that? And it's like, yeah, let's open up our minds to the car's perspective. Why does everything about them have to be somewhat human? Why does it have to be? But maybe there's a body part that cars have that is the headlight that does a number of different things and yet is still a sexual object in some way.

You know? Yeah, I mean, I think that's, that will be saved for the follow-up of cars for novel written by Jeff VanderMeer. Yeah, I mean, I think that's, that'll be saved for the, the follow up, uh, cars, cars for novel written by Jeff VanderMeer. Yeah, it makes so, you know, it really makes us rethink our body heart and our, our creeping paranoia about the cosmos, yeah. Um, so that's what I would say. They're boobs.

Yeah, okay. Yeah. Totally boobs. Um, so let's go on to the final part of the show where we make a few recommendations of movies you should watch instead of Robin Hood Let's do it. I mean, I'll say I should mention to that person if they haven't seen cars three with their kid Cars three is the best of the car series. Oh, you think so. I do think so. Yeah. I watched about

Oh a third of it on Netflix and was enjoying it fairly well and then didn't feel the need to return to it I think that's okay I think we might have talked about this before and I might have mentioned you are not the target audience for the cars films. So are we gonna recommend Robinhood movies? We don't have to but you can if you want. Okay, I'm gonna recommend Robinhood from 2018 it starts Jamie Foxx and it's just like, finally a movie with ideas. Yeah, but maybe you guys. Is it my daddy's Robin Hood? It is.

Well, is your daddy, Jamie Foxx? No, my daddy's Kevin Costner. Okay, then no, it's not. I guess I'll, I like, look, look, here's the secret about recommendations. We don't have to recommend something that we saw recently, but that often happens, and I don't know why you guys do it, but in my case, it's because my memory is bad.

And I can't remember what movie I liked to the past that I haven't recommended before. And so sometimes I end up just recommending whatever I saw recently, which is not to say I did not like the movie I'm gonna recommend. It's just gonna say, it's just to say there's no need for me to recommend because it's a big blockbuster movie.

And that's your Spider-Man far from home. I really like the Sam Raimi Spider-Man, but I think overall this new version might be my favorite Spider-Man version. I will say that I think that, and that you didn't like Spider-Man first, right? You like a plain old white Spider-Man, right? Well, Spider-Man. I can't put things in my mouth. You said something about like,

I can't relate to the Spider-Man. I did. You guys are jerks. You could put your finger on it, but there's just something you found threatening. You guys are assholes. I know, all right, Spider-Man first actually might be the best Spider-Man movie.

It is almost certainly the best, although sentimentally, Spider-Man 2 is my favorite. That being said, of the continuing stories, I'm sure they'll do a Spider-Verse sequel, but of the continuing stories so far. They already do a Spider-Verse sequel in the comics. I like this version, and I will say that, definitely this is my favorite,

I think Zendai is my favorite love interest for a Spider-Man. I think she's super charming in this movie. Even though she's Michi. Well, I don't know why that would affect things. I just the whole movie I was like, Spider-Man, that's Michi. I like the fact that they are able, so able in these movies to combine like a lighthearted team comedy and a superhero movie and To the to the degree that I went to the theater with my girlfriend and she Like with soap set about the parts where they're a conflict. She's just like I want to see a movie about Spider-Man taking a European vacation and getting to kiss people

I want to be happy about what's happening. There's so many complications that keep them from being happy. That's kind of the Spider-Man. It's kind of his deal. It's never used to be happy. Do not show her if looks good kill, starring Richard Griecke. But anyway, just a lot of fun. That's all. I can go next. I'm going to recommend I'm going to continue my trend of horror movies focusing on a single mother with a child. I'm going to recommend a recent movie called The Whole in the Ground.

It's I think English or it's Irish. It's an Irish movie and it is about a woman who has moved into a new home and she discovers behind in the woods behind her house, there is a massive like sinkhole thing. And then one night when her son is out in the, her son, she thinks her son has run off, but when she finds her son, he seems to be acting different than what she expected and she's concerned that her son

might be some kind of a doppelganger or something. And it's, you know, it plays on some classic stuff, but it's a fun watch and if you like horror movies, check it out. I'm going to do a kind of too easy recommendation and then so I might throw in another one, but I mean, I mentioned it already in this movie. I feel like in this movie, in this episode, we watch a Robin Hood movie. I really love the Arleflin Adventures of Robin Hood. So I'm really, if you haven't seen it, it's just like the most,

like one of those like perfectly put together 30 studio just glossy adventure movies that has really nothing going on in it, except just non-stop, like kind of fun in Adventure. And Aeroflin is just so like charismatic and alive in it. Like our idea of what Robinhood is like, a lot of it comes from this movie, Olivia to Havelin's in it, and she's great,

and she's still alive in every day that I remember that Olivia Havelin's still alive. I'm like, oh, that's wonderful. It's just like super fun. Like Eugene Palitz' Friartuck is like always the Friartuck for me, and it's in color in that beautiful 30s technic color because they put a lot of money into the sets and the costumes and everything.

And it just looks gorgeous. This word fighting is great. The adventures of Robinhood. And I'm sure that I bet you there are things in it that don't like culturally hold up today. I haven't seen it in a few years, but it's just like nonstop fantasy adventure in a great way. But it feels like it's pretty easy

to just recommend a better Robinhood movie. Yeah, I mean, speaking of other Robin Hood movies, I'm glad though, one we watched a day didn't try to be like the hot sexy Robin Hood, because we already have that, that's the animated Robin Hood, which is the sexiest of all the Robin Hoods. Oh boy, I watched that again recently and Sammy loved it and I'm like, oh, I forgot,

this is one of the most boring animated movies ever made. Come at me, haters, that fox is super sexy. I love it when I look at it. It's super sexy, but it is, is watching again. It is so dull. But partly because it was made on a really tight budget. They're reusing animation from like other people in the jungle book. And the audio recording is bad. You can hear the rooms that they're recording. Like Peter used to know of his yelling and you can hear the sound bouncing off the ceilings. But also the way it's shot. It's all wide shot to two shot, close up on whoever's talking.

Like, there's no interesting, they don't take advantage of animation because they didn't have the money to do it. So like, they, you're just using the same background as over and over again. Like, it's, it's a, you watch it as an adult and you're like, oh, this is a movie that was really made on a budget. Like, you compare it to a movie like Pinocchio or even like Dumbo, which was also made on a budget,

but 30 years earlier and it just doesn't hold up. But anyway, so that's my hot take is I don't like the Disney Robin Hood, but the Arrow Flynn Robin Hood I love, but because it's easy to recommend a Robin Hood, I've been on a real Western kick lately and it's made me think about one of my favorite Westerns of all time, I don't think I've recommended on the show

before I apologize for that, and it's called The Gunfighter, starring Gregory Peck, it's a Henry King movie. And Gregory Peck plays the classic character of a gunfighter. He's the quickest draw. So he's always being challenged. When he was a young man, he made a big reputation. And now he's haunted by it because men are constantly challenging him. And he has to prove himself in order to save his life. And that means he's racked up a trail of bodies along the way. he's become haunted and he has a love that he left behind in a town and a son who doesn't know that this man is his father and he decides that he's gonna go back to the town they're in and visit them and the

home movie takes place pretty much over one day, maybe even one afternoon. No, no, it's one day and it's him in this town and kind of dealing with the consequences of this life that he built for himself. And to a really, really great movie, maybe it doesn't know what it does not take, it takes mostly place on one day. It's mostly, it's not a real time or anything, but it does. No, no, it's mostly, but Gregor Pax is really great, and it's not like Nick of time. No.

I once hosted a screening of it, and because one of the projectors was down, there had to be a break between each of the reels while they were changing the reels, because this is back in olden times, everybody, movie is in real film. And every single, like, it's like every 10 minutes, there was enough of a little cliffhanger that, like, you needed that next reel. And I was just amazed, it wasn't until that moment that I realized how beautifully structured

the movie is. So the gunfighter. But that's if you want something that's slightly more serious. But if you just want to, like, check your brain at the door, the adventure is a robin hood. Yeah, gunfighter is one of those ones that I recorded off of Turner Classic, movie is just sort of on faith because it had like five star rating or whatever.

And I'm like, this is interesting. I like Gregory Peck, I like a Western. And yeah, I was not disappointed. It's super good. That's the movie that was not a huge success of the time. And people were like, because Gregory Peck has a mustache, having to cover up that pun of an expect to make money. Come on. Well, let's close up the old flop house. We got to bring down the gates, turn the lights down, half of the tents, put the elephants back on the track car.

Schedule before the show. So let's just end it. And by end of it, I will start to end it by saying saving a lot of time. I've been, I've been Dan McCulley. I've been steward Wellington. And this isn't your daddy's, Ellie Kaelin saying, I've been Ellie Kaelin, but not your daddy's, Ellie Kaelin. Cool. See ya. Nobody likes us.

Everybody hates us. Go eat worms. How do we eat fried worms on bookstores now? I mean, I'm a kid. I'm the top of the store. Where the hell are you going to get to that book? Big stack of them. Land your helicopter on Barnes Noble.

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