The Flop House - Ep. #299 - The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes

Episode Date: December 7, 2019

We attempt to exploit the zeitgeist by... reviewing a movie from 1969. We may not be good at this zeitgeist thing. More to the point -- since Disney+ has been in the news, we attempt to bask in some r...eflected glory by talking about the young Kurt Russell Disney live-action vehicle, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (thanks to longtime Daily Show producer and head researcher Adam Chodikoff for the idea). Meanwhile Stu makes the fatal error of encouraging Elliott's singing, Elliott takes us inside the pitch meetings for our favorite cereal mascots, and Dan has the plague.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On this episode we discuss the Computer War 10 Issues. Or as it's known on the East house, I'm Dan McCoy. Wow, it's me, Stuart Wellington. And over here in Los Angeles, California, home of a Hollywood where they make the movies and sometimes a lot of TV shows too and occasionally theater but surprisingly the theater scene is not what you think would be in a town so full of writers and actors and directors. It's something I mean that I'm kind of surprised by but in a lot of ways it makes sense because
Starting point is 00:01:01 people here are more trained for screen acting than stage acting. It's Ellie, Kaylin. Oh, I that went on for so long I didn't realize your hand actually said your name yet. Yeah, not yet, but now I have and it's Ellie, Kaylin. That's me. Good night everybody. No, okay. Well, I guess Ellie it's gone. I guess it's just you and me, Dan. One of us, when one of us goes, the other reaps the whole taunt team. So guys, this is a podcast where we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it. And Dan, do you usually sound like you're on the verge of death? No, I do. Well, I actually often do, but in this case, a little more so because I got a cold right
Starting point is 00:01:42 before Thanksgiving. I did a lot of Thanksgiving traveling and I think even though I was on the mend that pushed me back down the hill. And I woke up this morning, satin-like this. So this is one of those things where you're like, if I'm gonna die, I'm gonna record a sweet podcast before I go. Please carve the computer-wort tennis shoes
Starting point is 00:02:03 on my gravestone. That's cool. My only regret is I didn't tell the world what I thought about a young Kurt Russell. That's what you're saying, your deathbed. Yeah, let's explain. Handsome. Big surprise. He's a handsome guy. Let's explain a little bit. This is this is back when Captain Ron was just an Ensen.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll be like, the audience members, like the computer wore tennis shoes, that little scene, Disney live action movie from the early 70s. They'd spawned multiple sequels. The sequels, yeah. And we are like, yeah, it's impressive
Starting point is 00:02:39 that you actually know what that is, listener. But we're doing it because, now listen, don't take this as an endorsement of Disney plus take it as what it is us shamelessly trying to capitalize on the reflected glory that is Disney plus okay it's being a new think you think Disney plus is going to if people like Google search Disney plus they're like what's everybody talking about yeah they might get a link to our people who search for Disney plus also search for the flop house, the
Starting point is 00:03:08 computer war tennis shoes. This will be the one hundred and eighty second link that Google pulls up. Yeah, maybe, you know, if you do that, I feel lucky, but it'll come up. Yeah, maybe, maybe this is just us trying to placate our world entertainment, Zybatsu overlords that will I'm sure soon absorb all media could be but you know I just thought it'd be kind of fun to do something different and that's that's this you know Yeah, it is different Dan have you ever tried to goose the Google search for this show a little bit? Like, you could rename an episode like the flop house, Disney plus, Trump boobs. A hunky, Elliot Kayland feet. Yeah, Elliot Kayland feet.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah, I did just put anyone's feet in there and it'll do it. Because otherwise, they'll think it's featuring Elliot Kayland, which I've done on many hip-hop tracks, but it's not my actual feet because I don't sing through them. You don't sing through your feet or you don't sing through the tracks that you're on. I mean, oh, I sing through the tracks that I'm on. That's why I'm hired for so many, but I don't sing through my feet. You do like a high melody part, right? You don't do like a rap over the letters.
Starting point is 00:04:19 No, no, no, no, I'm the one with a... You like the weekend? When it slows down a little bit and it's got to be soulful. That's when I come in. Not the rap part. I can't do that. That's too difficult. I was going to say because your letters songs have a lot of internal rhymes, like a much
Starting point is 00:04:34 of a modern rap. Not so much just rhymes at the end of the line, but he mixes it up. Is this, are you doing a little pitch to do some kind of a hip-hop podcast with Jesse Thore now? That's right. Yeah, it's gonna be called Jesse. I don't know what you're talking about with Jesse. Yeah, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So Dan, so this is all a very scheming, conniving, shallow, greedy way for us to jump aboard the Disney Plus gravy train. I didn't talk about a Disney plus movie and you were especially excited to do this because is it because you love old school Disney or because you love jumping on to trends. I say as you twerk and whip your hair back and forth right in front of me. Is it and you're also doing the ice bucket challenge?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Trends, I'm sorry, trends, Aliens. Are you a time traveler? That's as your trends are little at a date as I'm saying. Okay. But is this, which is it? Is it, because I know you like old Disney stuff, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, a big part of it is, like this was a movie that I saw on the Disney channel
Starting point is 00:05:37 when I was a very young child and enjoyed because, you know, I had power fantasies of being super smart. But I couldn't remember anything about it. And also wearing tennis shoes, right? Cause you grew up very poor. And your parents could only afford to buy you cardboard shoes, which you could not play tennis in. Cause the courts at the time where you were,
Starting point is 00:05:59 again, it was a very poor town. The courts were made of glass. And the glass courts were just ripped up those cards. Seems like that would be more expensive to get it like what a single pain in class no no no it's just shards they just make it that makes sense all the idea that I would ever exercise as vigorously as a game tennis is chemical to me no but I also like the glass Tennessee, the glass tennis court by Tennessee Williams. That tennis hyphen why?
Starting point is 00:06:29 What? Williams. No, I also like, you know, as with, you know, I mean, obviously I have a fascination with things that are bad, thus this podcast. And I have a fascination with like old Disney. So this period where they pumped out really dumb live action comedies, it was kind of interesting to me, even though they're all objectively, like boring and terrible.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So even son of flubber, uh, even son of flubber. Okay. Even. And so I, we, there's another movie that I wanted to do, which we will do another time called Million Dollar Duck, which maybe we'll get to see that, but it seems like a lot of the Disney movies that time involved, someone discovering something
Starting point is 00:07:16 and then being chased for it. That was pretty much the formula, right? Yeah, the, when the computer or tennis shoes were wrapped up in the credits were playing, the, my next option was to watch the ugly doxand, which also looked pretty good, guys. I mean, the thing is, they should have just called it the doxand, am I right, everybody?
Starting point is 00:07:37 Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, man, we are gonna get some unsubscribes in a second. I'm just saying, those Weenter dogs are busted. Oh wow. No, there's one at work that's adorable. Yeah, you name them Frank. That's what you do with them.
Starting point is 00:07:52 They're all named Frank. Yeah. But you gotta explain to people, if it's named Frank, you gotta explain to visitors to your house. You gotta be like, now this is a dog, not a Frankfurter. Do not put mustard on it and try to eat it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah, they're like, oh, it's such an honor to meet you, Mr. Curry. And you're like, no, no, this is not Tim Curry in the role of Frank and Furter from the movie Rocky Horror Picture Show. This is a dog. Yeah. It's not a...
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's not a... This is our, you have very dumb friends. Yeah, I know you're gonna be tempted to put a dog-sized hot dog bun on him and put some relish on him So that you can take a photo of him But I'm sorry you might be tempted to eat him. I don't think it's a good idea No, I know you're gonna be tempted to ask him to sing one of his many hits New York New York The auto home my year. It's a September of my year. No, this is a this is not
Starting point is 00:08:43 Frank's and not If you, if you look closely, you'll see that he does not have blue eyes, so he is not Frank's not true. So don't say, sing my way, because the best you're gonna get is, Rory, which is not,
Starting point is 00:08:54 that's not the way Frank's not your sound. So I wanna say everybody that was just a joke, docksons, of course, are adorable dogs, bred to have their bodies fall apart so that we may be delighted by the inconvenience with which they live. Dan, continue. So you love old Disney movies. Yeah. And I think we all really like Kurt Russell quite a bit. He's fun to see him back in his like, not child actor at this point, a cusp of adulthood actor days. This is when this is when
Starting point is 00:09:24 the ancient Greeks would say he was at his most beautiful. When you still a young man, but his full beard has not come in yet. Give me a bearded Kurt Russell. Give me a Kurt Russell with elaborate face, you'll hire, please. Okay, eight-fillate, turn it on.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah. Okay, let's just start. So Dan, you're doing the plot today. So I want to warn everybody that Dan's doing the plot today. Now I hear the rustling of papers, which tells me that Dan took notes, which is a different thing for him. So.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, but my body sabotaged me. It's weird, they look like they should be notes, but it's just torn out pages of highlights for kids. So then Goofis, he does this thing, and Galen, he does the opposite. And the word jumble isn't even filled out. So I don't know if I'd call it notes. All right, so we start out.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So wait, hold on, fanfare. The flop house presents Disney Plus Spectacular Showcase, the computer award tennis shoes starring Kurt Russell and Caesar Romero hosted by Dan McCoy and now live from the Disney Main Street Electric Parade, it's Dan McCoy. I wish I could remember how that theme goes and I would do it, although my voice is then...
Starting point is 00:10:39 Oh, this would be a little theme, right? It was like, that the... Yeah, I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get to that. All right, we started off with these pop art kind of credits with a title song about how the computer wore tennis shoes. Uh-huh. And it has lyrics like,
Starting point is 00:10:52 making the news, paying his dues. And there's computer blueprints of the back. They also mention that he is, he's coming over the ideas that what they call a Cosmothropic Pace, which is a word that I've yet to see anywhere else. It's science. I'll let you understand. Good point, true.
Starting point is 00:11:11 So we open on there's a wait wait, Dan, does the theme song illuminate at all how this computer suddenly got shoes on him? Or is it still a mystery? It's still a mystery at this point. I believe. I mean, you just lift up the computer tower and stuff some shoes underneath it. There you go Good point like like there's a wicked witch under there. It's like one of those mr. Potato heads Now those are two different things you guys have just compared it to Stewart It's a little more apt. I feel because mr. Potato is wearing the shoes He's not sitting in top of a dead body that has shoes on it. Dan if it's a wicked witch scenario that is a corpse that has shoes on it and of course you're going to remove those shoes and it's feet are going to roll back like two gross
Starting point is 00:11:53 beetle two sandworms. So I guess from saying this folks folks if you see a dead witch under a house don't steal her shoes you're just going to end up in a load of trouble when you could have gotten home the entire time by finding a friendly con artist with a hot air balloon. And that's one to grow on. You have the wrong way around. Anyway, so we start.
Starting point is 00:12:14 She needs the shoes to get by at the end. I'm saying you don't need those shoes if you get in the hot air balloon and your dog jumps out and you're like, all right, goodbye, Toto. I guess you like to oz more. I can get another dog in Kansas. So it's kind of like how we know that that balloon could get you back to Kansas.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Come on. I mean, as we know, he makes it clear he doesn't know how it works, but I mean, he got it from Omaha. Omaha is closer to Kansas than the Emerald City is. So you do the math, Dan. Stuart, you're gonna say, so it's kind of like the whole thing we're like, if any ant Jones just stayed working as normal professors job those Nazis would have just been killed by the arc anyway.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Oh, but Mary would have been killed by the Nazis. So there was at least something. No, no, they would have brought the arc to Hitler because he's like, oh, I've all to see is this is going to be pretty cool. The spirit of death would have the angel death would have killed Hitler war over. Thanks Indiana Jones for prolonging the war. Mm-hmm. Actually, that's a pretty good point.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah. It's not a good point at all. It's not like without any other Jones, they would have changed the idea of like, let's look into the arc ahead of time just to be sure. No, they were only doing that because they wanted to show Indiana Jones how cool they were. They'd be, if he wasn't there, they'd be like, hey guys, proper safety procedures.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Let's wait till we get this to Berlin before we open up the arc. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. We just, we don't have any Americana shine horns here that we get this to Berlin before we open up the arc. Yeah, you're right. You're right We just we don't have any Americana Schfinhun's here that we really need to impress by showing how super duper Uber tough we are by opening up the arc right in front of him So let's wait till we get it home and then guess I lay just on Jojo rabbit. I did just see Jojo rabbit Well, the guys I tweeted about this the weirdest thing about Jojo rabbit is that the JoJo Rabbit, the actor, the character.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He looks like I imagine my son, Sammy, will look when he is that age. He looks a lot like him. So I was like, okay, so this is what my son looks like as a Nazi. Thanks, Tyker. Appreciate it. All right, well, we've only gotten to the credits, so please let me. All right, so Dan, where does this take place? So the high-tech military installation and lunar colony, where?
Starting point is 00:14:04 No, it's at a college. I military installation? A lunar colony? Where? No, it's at a college. I have the name written down later, but I forget it right now. I guess Medford or something. Oh, it's Medfield. Medfield College. Yeah. So we open in like the college's dean is talking to, I don't know, I mean like one of the
Starting point is 00:14:18 people he's talking to is a professor. So it's unclear. Like you would think that he was like, this is kind of an administrative meeting, but maybe this professor's on some sort of... I mean, they're talking about a budget, right? Yeah, it appears to me they were talking about the school budget and professor quickly has a proposal. He wants the school to buy a computer.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I'm just trying to remember where I recognize that actor from because he looks super familiar. And then I saw his credits were like 385 acting credits and I'm like, well, I could look through this or I could watch the movie on I'm supposed to be watching. Yeah. There are a lot of the actors in this were in tons of movies and TV shows. You've seen them.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Wiggly wants this computer for the science department. And the college dean is like, blah, blah, blah. We don't have the money for that. Meanwhile, the kids, the gang, one of whom being Kurt Russell have a transmitter hidden in the flowers, so they can listen into this administrative meeting, that they're fascinated by some reason. Well, the reason is because they're worried about being on some kind of like double secret probation.
Starting point is 00:15:23 No, the dean denies the computer and he says, okay, onto our non gifted students. And it's just interesting that all these, quote, quote, bad students are so invested in hearing whether they're on this bad list of bad students. Well, because here's the thing, Dan, here's, this is a pretty subversive movie in a lot of ways. And I have to end with the main reason
Starting point is 00:15:43 is any power structure, I'll tell you what it ways and I have the main reason says any power structure. I'll tell you what it really has to worry about and who the real enemies are. Not the criminal element or the trouble making kids. The kids who are invested in the system and want to see positive change. Those are the ones who really threatening the system at its foundations and so dexter, Kurt Russell and his friends, they're on the bad list not because they're bad kids but because they're too interested in seeing good things happen. And that's where this plays out.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah, and that threatens the Dean's power. And as you'll see throughout the movie, this is a movie very much about power and the way power corrupts and also the way that power is used as leverage on both an educational and a governmental, and in some some ways and a criminal level. So it's very much about this intersection between what I call the educational scientific criminal complex and how Dexter fits into that, which is as a goofy dude who electroshocks himself by accident. It's kind of like how Saturn in order to maintain his power devoured his children, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Exactly. Yes. I'm beginning to see why Stewart seems more than usually annoyed at Elliot when he's the one doing this. But anyway, they really want this computer. So Kurt Russell is gonna get this local businessman to maybe donate. He's like a guy that he worked for.
Starting point is 00:17:00 It is very funny that it's like, oh, here's the non-gifted Nerduels we should kick out. they're like yeah, we should help this we should help a local businessman donate a computer to college Yeah, and lo and behold who's this business man? But Caesar Romero TVs the Joker and maybe he's playing the Joker out of makeup here because he as you will find out He is a criminal later on, but he's not like a funny criminal. No I don't know. I think he does some funny things. I'm sorry that comes to the joke.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Pretty funny. And there's some events over the course of the movie. I feel that might be an inciting moment that might turn him into the Joker. But we'll get to that. We'll get to that. So you're saying the movie Joker is a remake of the computer where tennis shoes and some like that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Todd Phillips saw the subplot in Loving Caesar Romero in this movie. Says this gives me an idea. Yeah. So they talk to the businessman. He's like, I don't know. I already donated all this money, but, but ultimately he thinks like maybe he will. And he goes into a secret room behind it, Portrait of Whistler's Mother on the wall. And they're using their computer that they have in the back to do mysterious betting things, gambling, like fixing sports betting or
Starting point is 00:18:19 something. It's not totally clear how the computer figures in. He runs a series of rigged casinos. Yeah. And somehow they need the computer for that. Now here's one of the more baffling decisions that he makes, which I guess if you're as per verse as the Joker, maybe it makes sense in a strange humorous way. But he's like, well, this computer is the nerve center of our legal organization.
Starting point is 00:18:41 You know what? I think I will donate it to the college. Yeah. Even if it wasn't full of incriminating evidence, why would he give up the thing he needs to run all this the illegal casinos? Dan, what's going on in his mind other than the sheer again, perversity of being a living joke? He does tell his henchman not to give the money to the college. So maybe he's just going to buy a newer computer with that money and get rid of like old hardware. It is strange though that like, I don't know, it seems like Kurt Russell should have made it clear and it seems like he does make it clear that
Starting point is 00:19:16 they need both the money and the computer. But these are a matter of like no, I'm pulling the funding and giving you this giant new building computer. It feels like they should have had a scene where his henchmen is like the police are on to us. We got to get rid of the evidence. So he's like, oh, okay, I'll donate the computer to the college. And that way, that would have made, that would have made everything make way more sense in this whole.
Starting point is 00:19:38 But instead, he's just like, oh, this will save me 20,000 bucks if I send them this incriminating crime computer. Yeah. Then we get a scene that's kind of not that necessary twenty thousand bucks if I send them this incriminating crime computer yeah uh... then we get a scene that's kind of not that necessary where the computers getting moved into the science department uh... and the dean comes in angry that cesar marris taking the money back in his mad at cut russell's character dexter uh... this is this is one of the there's
Starting point is 00:19:59 a couple jokes in the movie where i'm like why are these jokes in a kids movie and this one the professor is bossing them around and they're like, boy, the professor doesn't wait to any time and he goes, yeah, if he was in charge of the Soviets five year plan, it would be done in six months. And it was like, was that something that kids thought was really funny at the time?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Like, like Soviet planning jokes. So the good professor is giving, like, quickly, is lecturing on the computer, on computers in general, and he's got these watercolor big diagrams on placards. And what are they, what are they diagrams of Dan? Once like a guy's head, like a brain, I don't know, I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:20:39 But Quigley, I have noted down here, the actor is William Schallert, because I too like Stuart was like, I've seen this guy in a million things, who is he? I have noted down here, the actor is William Schallert, because I too like Stuart was like, I've seen this guy in a million things, who is he? But yeah, he's been in too much. I think he was in a bunch of episodes of The New Gidget. So, write it down, guys.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Put that in your dossier from William Schallert. So, Jesus. So it does a lecture, the computer like explodes or something and he's like, oh my mainframe thing got all busted. Yeah, obviously, let's do that. He's showing a really elaborate demonstration of how computer properly programmed can close a window and order groceries over the phone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah, I've got, like this movie is so nothing that like I was like I made these notes sometimes the notes get a little Short handy. Yeah, I'm like, oh, I'll remember what it is because I watched this movie and no I don't like it's like So so read your notes and we'll puzzle them out like we're deciphering the snowman's clues because he left us all the clues mr Police well, I remember this first one experiment with rain gauge and computer That's he put a rain gauge on the roof and like, if you don't want to go out to the store or whatever, like the computer will phone for you to have it delivered. I don't know. It was really funny.
Starting point is 00:21:56 He's like, why should I expend the effort of shutting one window and calling the store and speaking to them for 30 seconds when I can spend several hours programming this computer to do those for me. Yeah, but the note that I don't quite understand it says space computer experiment does crazy stuff with door and phone. Yep. I mean, the phone just starts like lifting up and down and the door starts slamming. It's kind of got it.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It was reminiscent of the like when the evil spirit takes over the cabin in evil dead two and everything starts saying dead by dawn. Yeah. Yeah. I think what I think what happens is they they positive I think that the computer used to be used for space experiments and so that information may still be in it and they ask it about it and it goes nuts. Oh, okay. Crazy. So something something like one of the things got fried out and the and he's like,, well, I guess I'll never be able to fix this ever again. And then Kuros was like, okay, I'll drive a couple of hours to the store to buy you a new one.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Well, no, he's, yeah, I think he's, I think he's, yeah, stealing it from where he used to work or whatever. Well, he's trying to get out of, he's trying to get out of studying for this big test that's coming up. The Dean is like, the big standardized test is coming up tomorrow. And last year, the big standardized test is coming up tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And last year, we were second to last in the whole state. Yeah, and Kurt Russell drives in the rain. And the rain is this great, like rear screen projection that just looks like a bunch of crazy scribbles out the window. I mean, and we can barely see it because he's plastered his windshield and windows with the stuff he's supposed to be studying.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So while he's driving, he's reading and trying to study. And I'm like, uh, to be able to read and drive at the same time. Yeah. That's a real, uh, yeah, that's a real long haul trucker technique. And he's also peeing in a bottle and then hurling the bottle out the window. Yeah. So saying breaker, breaker and stuff. Kurt, Kurt goes into the classroom, lay in my tro places part, and there's like rain on the water on the floor, and he holds a couple of wires, and he gets electrocuted. And-
Starting point is 00:23:55 But luckily the rubber souls of his tennis shoes would protect him from this. Could be. I think he actually, I think he is that pretty hard. I think he's always wearing dress shoes in this movie, which I think is the craziest joke. Also, my girlfriend pointed out that he's always wearing the same sweater. Yeah, like everyone else changes clothes in the movie and he briefly does when he becomes like more like famous and powerful. But he changes into some
Starting point is 00:24:22 pretty snazzy clothes eventually. Yeah, but he's basically wearing the same sweater. She was mostly interested in this movie for the costumes, which were a lot of fun. Yeah. A lot of mascots and such. He made, I think that sweater has some important to him. It's just an important sweater because I think I was looking up there's deleted scenes, and there's a scene where he explains to someone that if they want to destroy his sweater, they should just pull the thread as he walks away.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And we leave him naked lying on the floor, and they're like, I don't want that to happen to you, Dexter, you're my friend. He's like, okay, then I guess I'll just wear this sweater forever. And it's weird. It's weird why they remove that, because I mean, I guess it makes sense, because this movie is all killer no filler.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah, and it pans over to a little baby with big chunky glasses on, who goes, go, go, go, weezer. And that's, of course, the actual rivers Phoenix, rivers Cuomo's are not really. The actual rivers Cuomo in a cameo as a baby. So just a huge coincidence that he later wrote a song with those similar accident. And also like timing wise, I guess that makes sense because this movie came out what 68. Yeah, and I think he's what like 70 years old. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:25:28 All right. This was something that my, uh, former, former, whoa. Oh, sorry, I'm getting, getting all crazy here. Former flop house guest, Jenny Jeffy said to me when she realized that weasor is dad rock. Now, and I'm like, I think it always kind of was dad rock. Mm-hmm. Um, okay, so.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Opinion Stan, do you want to? I, Dan, do you want to take on that hot take about me? Sure. I don't want to do that at all. So, um, so, so Dan, so Dan, as you made it clear, that it's been raining, he got zapped. And he got zapped. I have to recap.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I'm moving on. Because I want to talk about it being zapped. Yeah, he got zapped and zapped again. And, and then he's asleep in his dorm room and he's sleep talking all this like computer nonsense and there's beeps and boops going on for some reason. I think I know the reason. Yeah, and so finally it's the day of this big standardized test. Curtain's buddies are taking it and Dexter, his character, suddenly knows everything. He's zooming through this test.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And again, there's beep noises as he thinks. I don't know, like being electrocuted is somehow also imparted that to him. It's turned his brain into a computer. A computer that brace yourself, where's 10 issues? So he finishes his test super fast, and then he eats a sandwich really loud. He said it's such a weird scene,
Starting point is 00:26:51 because it goes from being about how he finishes the test super fast to about how everything he's doing is loud and distracting to everyone else. Yeah. And this is a loud sandwich. And it's like, what's sandwich with you to the test, Kurt? Well, but also, no sandwich has ever been this loud. It's like he's eating his sandwich filled with gravel like it's crazy how much the thing crunches
Starting point is 00:27:08 I don't know maybe through some potato chips on there. Yeah, to get some But I got soggy while he was taking the test. Oh, yeah, I guess that makes sense. It's filled with like pork cracklings and stuff so The Dean of course thinks that he cheated on this test because he got everything right super fast, but quickly doesn't think that he cheated. And I have in my notes, because question mark, question mark, question mark, I mean, other than like he likes this kid, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah, well, don't they like immediately take him to the doctor and they start examining him? Yeah, so I'm gonna get that to that right now. The doctor looks in his ears and shows them and there's blinking computer lights inside his ears And then also they do like an X-ray of his head and there's like there's There's And like I think it was like a banana car
Starting point is 00:27:58 I thought it was a bathtub car I was waiting for that to pay off because I'm like okay computer parts in his brain He's a computer and there's gambling because the computer is being used for gambling. And I guess the computer likes to visualize what it's thinking about. But then I never did understand why the bikini girl in a bathtub car. Maybe that's just a sexual fantasy that was already in his brain. Yeah, I think that's just meant to be dexterous, normal thoughts that are still in there. Yeah. Like, you surrealist. Like how you sometimes see Homer's thoughts and it's like, you
Starting point is 00:28:27 know, a cartoon playing turkey in the straw or whatever. So you're saying, Dan, if you got zapped by that computer, they'd look into your mind and it'd be like a little bit of math and a little bit of gambling and then just like a parade of butts.
Starting point is 00:28:40 A butt parade sounds terrific. Well, let's let's make it happen. Let's get the permits today. I'm glad you're going through the right channels. Yeah. Well, because this is gonna be down Fifth Avenue, right? I can't get any hoes. Yeah, it's not cheap.
Starting point is 00:28:54 No. It's gonna be ticker tape butt parade. Guys, can I take a moment to complain about something that happened during the May Seas Thanksgiving Day parade? Sure. I would love it. I would love it. What's the brakes on the speeding car?
Starting point is 00:29:04 And at the very beginning of it, the host says that he's like, there are people here from all over the country and that's what this day is all about. People coming together to enjoy the parade and I was like, this holiday is not about the parade. Hold on a second. Like, wait a minute, don't let's not go that far and it just irked me, you know. Yeah, and I love the macy's. Yeah, and that speech was given by the owner of macy's William H. Macy's and he's just trying to get over the fact that his wife is a criminal now, so I understand it.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Mm-hmm. I love that parade, but mostly for nostalgia reasons like the idea that the let's characters what for the peanuts characters kind of, but like I love you know when I was a kid I watched it. I'm like, ooh big balloons, but now I watch it and I'm, I watch, I want you watch porn for the same reason. I watch it mostly to be amused by the facts that it's like, okay, what NBC stars can we shoehorn in here? Because NBC owns this property. Well, actually, it was on CBS this year. Can you believe it? No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It was where I was. I was, I don't think CBS has its own parade. Yeah, it's called the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. I was watching it and it had Al Roker on it. And Al Roker, I believe, is an ABC personality. Maybe they had different coverage, because I definitely saw the CBS version of it. There were a lot of stars from evil,
Starting point is 00:30:22 but also like all your favorite corporate mascots are gonna be on a balloon coming down. That's like the Pillsbury Doeboy was going down the street and Sammy was like, who's that? I'm like, oh, that's the Pillsbury Doeboy. He's this guy and I'm like, who's just in commercials and he just sells baked goods. And all of these is a corporate product. And also when you poke him, he goes, woohoo.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And Sammy was like, I like him. And he's like, he is very cute. But I was like, poke him, he goes, woohoo! And Sam was like, I like him. Yes. Well, he is very cute. He is very cute. But I was like, oh yeah, he has no, there's literally nothing to him except trying to sell like toaster roles and things like that. Like there's no, he's not part from a movie or anything like that. And it really struck me hard. That guys, I guess commercials are art when you look at it. Yes. I've zoned out, so I hope I didn't agree with something dumb.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah, I mean, you basically, you agreed to the premise of madman. Yeah, so Dexter's gonna be on TV, and there's another presumably even more evil dean who wants to steal Dexter to his school from the state from the state school This is one of those movies where like in Ghostbusters where the people who work for a public utility or administration are the bad guy So professors from other schools quiz Dexter and Dexter is very getting more and more computer-like by the moment at one point He says we've wasted 38 seconds on a pause already. Perhaps if we save the applause to the end, it will go more smoothly.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'm going to start incorporating that bit into our live shares, I think. And like this new cockiness of Dexter's turns his friends against him almost immediately. Mm-hmm. And it's like, it's weird. He's barely more cocky, and they, who have, presumably been friends with him for, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:10 a few years at this point, are like, fuck this guy. Wow, you're just- It's kind of weird that you're taking the side of the guy becomes like a cocky distant jerk over his friends. It's not like that. No, especially when, as you know, because you've seen the movie, his friends save him from gangsters at the end at the risk of their own life. Mm-hmm. I mean, that seems like, you know, that doesn't seem like, what would you think
Starting point is 00:32:36 they're doing that for their own hands? Yeah, you're right. That's the least I could do. If my friend was kidnapped by gangsters, the least I could do is solve the problem myself, go with no training, go undercover and rescue him. Well, that's their stupidity. They could have enlisted professional help in this matter. Yeah, it's only they were all computers too. Yeah, then they'd know how to talk.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I feel like there should have been a subplot in this movie where one of the other kids tries to become a computer. You like it? You like it like you're eating something. The only Dexter can do that in his laboratory. Wait a minute, Dexter's laboratory. Yeah. Now I get it.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Maybe it was a pair of brothers, the scalary brothers, perhaps who were trying to, we'll figure it out. So Dexter gets off a plane and this is very important. He's wearing a double breasted pinstripe suit with a turtle neck. Mm-hmm. And he kisses two girls and Annie gets mad and I have girlfriend question mark because it's never really clear whether they actually are involved or whether she's just jealous.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah, I mean, I think there's, I think there's some kind of connection whether or not it's been made official. Yeah. I mean, and she, you got to assume she's got a crush on him. He's Kurt Russell. He's very handsome. But I would be offended if I saw my friend who's starting to become a condescending jerk. Get off a plane on TV and two women he has never met before. Walk up to him to hand in flowers.
Starting point is 00:33:56 This is a welcoming committee. And he immediately just starts macking on both of them in front of the camera. Just because of the entitlement, you know, he's got that computer-work tennis shoes entitlement that all computers with tennis shoes have, that they can just do whatever they want without any consequences. Yeah, meanwhile, normal computers without tennis shoes are out there, you know, every day,
Starting point is 00:34:18 like doing the stuff that he can't even comprehend. Yeah, well, what about a radio with bowling shoes? Talk to him, find out about your privilege computer with tennis shoes. This radio with bowling shoes is living a totally different America than you are. So Dexter gets this ticker tape parade, which is hilarious because it cuts between stock footage of a ticker tape parade and a tight shot on the car where someone's throwing confetti at him and he's waving madly. And then he goes to the UN and he's like, just sort of standing around, talking to the world leaders in front of the UN.
Starting point is 00:34:49 In different languages. Yeah. Anyway, so in Cyclopedia CEO, contacts the dean about college, like an education bowl, like a quiz bowl thing. It's called college knowledge. And the other like evil Dean wants him so they can win. I think I think it's a little far to call him an evil Dean. Well, yeah, I maybe
Starting point is 00:35:11 just from the perspective of our main Dean is he evil. But you know, he's still the hero of his story. Yeah, it's so funny because the Dean is set up in the first scene as as if he's going to be the bad guy. He doesn't like our heroes. He's denying the good professor's computer. And then this other dean comes in and is like, oh, he should come to my school, which has a lot more resources. And suddenly we're supposed to be like, no, I love the dean from Medfield. Medfield's a great school.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I mean, it's the devil, you know, you know. So we return to this, like, it's not quite a montage. Let's call this series of short scenes, just like showing Dexter's life changing. He's watching a giant diamond get cut. And he's like, I know how to cut this diamond, but the diamond cutters like very offended by this. And he tries to cut it and shatters into a million little pieces.
Starting point is 00:35:58 That's a good way to show how much smarter he is. Is he something that everyone's familiar with, the idea that it's hard to cut a diamond. Also, the idea that he must have, like, this is taking place in alternate universe where diamonds are not the hardest substance known to man. Yeah. Oh, did you, did you mention that we learned that Dexter has not yet registered for the spring semester? Oh, right. Yeah, they won. It's not certain that he's going definitely go to Medfields next semester Yeah, and we also see him at Cape Kennedy where there's a rocket going off and
Starting point is 00:36:30 Caesar Romero calls him about a job in his organization and he calls him at the base right at the rocket base We'll be through to the computer who wears tennis shoes Yes, this is this is a local wealthy man I'm a business businessman in the California area. Put me through to the most famous man in America who's at your rocket base watching a rocket ship. Okay, well the rocket's about to launch and we brought him here to watch it for some reason.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So, but yeah, okay, you can talk to him. Cause there's no punchline to this. They don't need him there. You just see footage of a rocket taking off. Yeah, I mean, he's doing smart stuff, like going to NASA. But anyway, so Dexter, like, sort of blows off the Dean to meet with Caesar Romero, and he goes, and Caesar Romero takes Dexter to the track, where Dexter suggests this long
Starting point is 00:37:18 shot bet and a McAdoodle, the horse that, that he said should come, comes from way behind, and over the course of I assume the whole afternoon, Caesar Romero wins $28,000 because the wine-exsters picking the horses. And like, it seems that if Dexter just has the information that was in Caesar Romero's computer in the first place, like he should have known the Caesar Romero character, he should have been Arno, the Caesar Romero character, should have been able to do this the whole time.
Starting point is 00:37:47 He doesn't need, it needs to be transferred in front of us. Filtered through Kurt Russell's unique perspective. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. You would also think that like the Mafiosos who run the track would be like, these guys are winning too much because this kid. Maybe we should ban the computer brain kid.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And this is also much to the chagrin of Arno, Cesar Maros, main henchman. Yeah, it was major domo. Yeah, who is used to giving him horse tips. Now, I know, horse name is Macadoodle, that makes more sense. I thought his name was Market Doodle. And I was like, I don't know what kind of market has doodles.
Starting point is 00:38:22 But I mean, horse names are always crazy, right? Yeah, that's true. Like, I don't think you can own a horse, and you're like, oh,'t know what kind of market has doodles. But I mean, horse names are always crazy, right? Yeah, that's true. Like, I don't think you can own a horse and you're like, oh, I'm gonna name my horse Jeffery and everyone else would be like, nope, you're not allowed. Nope, you got to name him Tanjurena's explosion. I think I missed red it before. I think it's in between both what we both said.
Starting point is 00:38:39 It's a Marka doodle. Marka makes more sense. That makes way more sense. Named after the famous explorer, Marco Marka doodle. It's the father of Rocka doodle. Oh, that makes more sense. Thank you. Named after the famous explorer, Marco Marka Doodle. It's the father of rock a doodle. Yeah. So wait, now let's take a moment. Guys, if you had a horse, a race horse, what would you name it? Dan's horse is. Okay, Dan, pushing the limits of the human imagination once again. I bow to the sheer power of human creativity.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Dan, once again, you've shown that the only power in the universe that cannot be overcome is that of expression and art and creative thinking. So Dan, thank you for that. Dan's course. I assume you went. All the only vistas of perception open before me. What's weird is Dan had to go into a hallucinogenic trance
Starting point is 00:39:25 to talk to his spirit animal to go so far beyond the unexpected that he ended up at the most expected name. That's the thing. It can only come from this fever state that Dan's in right now from his sickness. And now if he wants to tap into that, he's gonna have to make himself sick every time.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah, and so Stuart, what would you name your horse? Ah, man, probably Stuart's horse. Guys, I like, I'm blown away. I'm blown. I love what I'm hearing. I give you both A pluses. So both of these deans are keen on getting Dexter to roll for the next semester. A couple of keen deans. Yeah, keen deans. And they're following it. They so they follow. That sounds like it. That sounds like a 50s all male like Acapella group, the keen deans. Yeah. They follow him to an illegal casino. Called Garabaldi's because this movie is racist. The casino gets raided. And the deans wind up in a day jail cell together. And as well as a and in a jail cell together, and as well as in a different cell Dexter
Starting point is 00:40:27 and Cesar Romero's henchman. They have a scene, I kept wanting this scene to be like the one in the master when Philip Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Phoenix were in those jail cells and they're just yelling at each other. Yep, and breaking toilets. But Nari, a privy, is shattered in this movie. Now at this point Dexter gets disillusioned about how everyone wants a piece of him. And the character arc of this movie has been so fast.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Like he becomes like a jerk, a mile just jerk very quickly. We see a few scenes of that. And then he like repents very quickly. Now Dan, you have to realize this movie is only 91 minutes and fully 40 minutes of that is the least fun chase scene in the history of movies. Well, that's why I was going to say if I was going to be charitable, I would say, okay, this is 91 minutes long. They don't have a lot of space for like, you know, like this character development.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But then I think of all of the wonderful marvelous pieces of entertainment out there that managed to pack amazing amounts of story and character into an equal amount of time. And I think, shame on you, computer-ware-tune issues. Or last, this movie is at least four times as long as it's a good life episode of the I'm going to be able to get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:41:52 little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:42:01 little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a him out. And that convinces him to stay at the current school because he loves these people too much. And he apologizes. And what was the name of that school again, Dan? Medfield. Right. Dex apologizes to Annie. I apologize. And I have. He is girlfriend. I asked you that. Assuming you would not have remembered the name. I apologize for underestimating you because you did remember the name. Yes. Well,
Starting point is 00:42:21 I'll say my notes, but. So wait, so yeah, let's talk a bit. Dan, you're at this point, you still think maybe it's his girlfriend. Who knows? Who knows? I mean, he specifically apologizes to her. I mean, it's a crazy time in your life, man, being in college. Yeah. That's true. You're making your own rules. Why put labels on things? Yeah. Okay. So. Well, hey, you're that computer that were the tennis shoes. Hey, I don't like putting labels on things. Mm-hmm. So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So- So-
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Starting point is 00:43:19 picks that Skyler dude who's who's something else. So they're on the they're in the quiz and Dexter doesn't want to hog all the questions, they tries to feed his friends the answers and they are such idiots that they can't apparently just hear an answer and repeat it to the moderator. So they have a rocky start but they still win, right? Yeah, they still win. I will say Dan, I have been in that exact situation.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And I was on this podcast. On this, but yeah, but I was on my high school quiz bowl team. We are in a quiz bowl tournament. And the answer to a question, it was this thing, what was like bird puns was the category. And the answer to this one was, but it was one of these rounds were only the captain of the team could answer. I was not the captain, although I eventually took an oozee. Yeah, you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And I said, I'm the captain now. Yeah, you don't have the the force of charisma to be a captain. Yeah, I guess you know, in that movie, wasn't it was probably an A.K. Yeah, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was an even an automatic weapon. No, it's an automatic rifle. They're like a bocaster or something. It's a bocaster or a rapist. Yeah, look at that.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It was a bat left. It was a sling shot with an acorn full of gunpowder. So he was, so I, the answer to this one question was each crow. That was the phrase. And the captain was like, I don't know what is it? And I was like, each crow. And he's like, e crow?
Starting point is 00:44:42 No, each crow, like the phrase, e crow, I don't understand, what are you telling me? And I was so frustrated. I was like, how are you a high school student who was the captain of this academic team and you've never heard the phrase, eat crow before? Come on, man. So I understand it's very frustrating.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But, guys, here's where this movie made a big mistake. Okay. It works on commission, big mistake here. So, their final category is the work of Marcel Duchamp. made a big mistake. Okay. Yes. Because it works on commission, big mistake here. So, their final category is the work of Marcel Duchamp. This one, my ears prick up because I happen to be in particular, aficionado of Marcel Duchamp. And I may be wrong about this, but seems to me,
Starting point is 00:45:19 they identified one of his paintings as Newd Descending a Stere case. When in fact that painting's title is Newd Descending a Stere case. When in fact that painting's title is New Descending a Sterecase number two, Dexter, your team is disqualified. Get the fuck off the college knowledge set. Guys, we just, when he was mad as I was that this 1960s Disney movie failed to completely accurately relay the title of the painting that was the hit
Starting point is 00:45:41 and also scandal of the Armory show of 1913. You know what? You just added my subscription. You just added new depth to the scene where his friends just can't get it. Like they have to accept that they are not smart. And that's kind of how I feel right now. So the evil Dean is like, or the other Dean, let's call him the other Dean since he, yes, he's not that evil.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, let's call him state school Dean. State other Dean. Let's call the other Dean since he, yes, he's not that evil. Yeah, let's call him state school Dean. State school Dean. Which in any other movie would make him the hero of the movie. Once Dexter's Dean to withdraw Dexter because it's unfair. Which is, is right, it's the Teen Wolf logic. Yeah, meanwhile Caesar Romero is watching these, the finals. I wish there were scenes of the state school Dean electrocuting his students trying to get one of them to have a computer.
Starting point is 00:46:25 That's what I was saying. That's what this movie needs. Let's just we've got to replicate him. How many students have he electrocuted? 79. What are the results? 50 of them died. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:46:36 We need to win college knowledge and that encyclopedia money. Yeah, he goes down to the basement. It's just filled with coffins of Hugh Jackman's body. The cloning machine works great. I don't care about the cloning machine. Clone on with a computer in his brain. So, Cesar Romero was watching the quiz bowl finals. And he's like, oh man, we missed out on this guy.
Starting point is 00:46:59 We should have him in our organization. And Dexter answers a question where the answer is Applejack, which like causes him to start spouting Caesar Romero's private casino info because it's like a food state. Applejack was one of the code words. Yeah. So I guess I assume I assume the question was what breakfast cereal was sold for years despite nobody liking it. No, it was about the liquor apple jack. Oh, so not about the cereal apple jacks. Yeah, no, no. Because they were like, what do kids love? They love apples and they love the game jacks.
Starting point is 00:47:32 What do we combine them into one amazing cereal? Yeah. Yeah, that chokes people. Yeah, exactly. They're much like with fruit loops, they were like kids love fruit. They love misspelling things. And they love loops. They like to kids love fruit. They love misspelling things and they love loops They like to close loops like in the hit book getting things done for they talk about closing work loops Kids love that so let's combine them into one cereal now who would be the best spokesman for this thing?
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's fruit. It's loops a two-can of course nothing says fruit and the Shape of a loop like a two-can. Yep. Okay, so kids love the cold. They like it when it's a snow day and they don't have school, frosted, when things are frosted. And kids love flakes, just shake their, just scratch their head, it's full of danger if they love those flakes.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And so frosted flakes, well what says to me, ooh sugar frosted skin flakes, a tiger, of course. Yes, a tiger. Now we're gonna need some kind of slogan that tells people that the cereal is great. We can't just come out and say they're great. Wait, why can't we? Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Now, here's my scene from the madmen episode that never got made about frosted flakes. It's up all night trying to figure out a slogan for the cereal and he's like, well, what do we think about them? They're frosted sugary, crunchy. What if we said they're crunchy? No, it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Well, I mean, they're just, they're great. Hold on. Say that again. What did you just say? I said they're great. Wait, but you were coughing when you said it. So the gurr got extended. But we need a spokesman who could extend a gurr
Starting point is 00:49:03 for a length of time. Who should it be? Uh, some kind of a wolf? No, no, no. Wolves howl. They don't growl. Uh, like a bear? It can't be a bear.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Remember, there's already smokey bear and he's a nightmare to work with. He's a huge prima donna. Well, what if it was like a tiger? A real tiger? Sure. That people would, what people would, it would eat the children. No, no, no, what about a cartoon tiger? A cartoon tiger a cartoon tiger
Starting point is 00:49:25 You mean like cool cat the crappiest lenny tunes cartoon there ever was no no no not like cool cat at all He's the worst okay a cartoon tiger But he's gonna have sure so he's naked no he has like a scarf around his neck like an ascot. Okay, he sold me on it Okay, well, I mean that's pretty good. It needs 90% more Don Draper talking about growing up around prostitutes. But he gets into the prostitutes meeting. He's like, you know, prostit is a Greek word meaning I have a sad life. I, and it's, I'm glad you brought up necker chiefs because in this movie, the necker chief for Dexter Kurt Russell's character kind of represents his like hubris.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And he has it wrapped around his neck when he is in his like primo, cocky villain mode, but he removes it when he decides, no, I wanna support my friends, but go on. So back to you. I think the neckerchief represents the news that is knowledge, because knowledge, once you have knowledge of the world, and inevitably you have knowledge of your own mortality,
Starting point is 00:50:20 and so in a way, he is casting off that news and saying, no, I should live, and I'll I'll be young and I will use to look into the future So Odin Caesar Romero panics because Dexter is saying all this stuff on the air He shuts down his casinos. He acts. He asks his henchman to kidnap Dexter Annie reports Dexter's missing the next day and Annie and Pete start listening to a to a tape of Kurtz weird apple jack ramblings to try and figure out what's happening.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah. And the hidden messages. They realized that the computer's info was transferred to Dex's brain and they tell one of his idiot friends. Yeah, that's the goes the police. This is my favorite scene of the movie is when they have figured out the whole plan and Skylar walks up and he's like, hey guys Hey guys Hey guys and they eventually knowledge him and then they explain the whole plot to him and I'm like this
Starting point is 00:51:17 This is not gonna work out and of course that we then cut to a police station where the police are listening to the tape Listening to Skylar's insane ramblings. And then he go, they're like, okay, see you later. And he wanders off. And maybe it's because I saw that Irishman just like a day or two before, but I kind of felt like these guys were really killing. But also like it seems like, okay, like the point of the scene is this guy's an idiot. Like he's rambling.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Like this message is not gonna get across to the police, but then later on it seemed like the police did understand him. Yeah, so I mean, that's the joke. That's the joke at the end of the movie. Yeah, I guess. They just distrust it. It's, he's a real Jar Jar Binks.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Look, you don't get Emperor Palpatine without a handy fool like Jar Jar Binks to put him in that place. And you don't get the unbelievably exciting house painting climax of this movie without Skylar being a moron who confuses the police. Yeah. Uh, okay. So, P. Nanny follow one of the goons.
Starting point is 00:52:16 They find Dexter being forced to pick winners and, you know, whatever. They're coaxing him to pick winners by giving him chicken out of a very nice bucket, like an overflowing bucket of chicken. And it's a bucket that looks like the kind of like plastic ice bucket you would have at a hotel. Does not look like a disposable bucket. It works for me.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I would give up horseback winners. This must have been back in the day where you would go to a chicken place with your own bucket and you'd be like, fill it up, sir, and they fill it up because, you know, once again, it's just like how Kurt Russ only has one sweater. This is a different time, guys. This is when we didn't live in a disposable culture. Yes, more of you buy a sweater, throw it out the next day, and buy a new sweater.
Starting point is 00:52:59 No, no. This would be like, if you were going to Kentucky Fried Chicken, you would dress up. This was a night out. Men would wear a tie and a jacket. Women were wear pearls, and you would go, and it was like, you know, the old plantations of your, and you would, it would be a taste of, kind of like taboo luxury, because it was built on evil. But at the same time, who wouldn't want to live that more sedentary lifestyle of not if it's
Starting point is 00:53:26 built on the backs of slave labor. I mean well that's that they got to have the fantasy without the cruel cruel reality of it. But anyway at the time Kentucky Fried Chicken was you know it would be a place you'd go on your anniversary not like now when KFC is a place that you throw a cat through the window of because you're so you're so dismissive of it. Okay, well anyway, the gangsters are going to get as much juice out of decks as they can and then they're going to jump them in Mabaholake, which seems like a kind of a grim development for the tone of this movie otherwise. I mean, are they definitely going to kill them or they're just going to as a prank, just
Starting point is 00:54:00 throw them in the lake? Oh, maybe that's it. Maybe they're just going to go. I mean, they do talk about what they're going to do with the body. I mean, you don't refer to doing something with someone's body if they're alive, right? Yeah. Usually not. I guess that's true. Maybe they're going to take the head because that's where the computer is. And so he's portable and they'll just throw the body away. That's song about your body being in Wonderland. He's talking about a quirk.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Oh yeah. Okay. I mean, who but a corpse would sit there and listen to that song. So, okay, the kids. Oh, and also that, I'm in love with the shape of you. I'm in love with your body song. Oh, that's not a corpse. Wow, this is opening up.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Wow. I'm an absolute. I'm an absolute. I'm going to put in adult contemporary bullshit. That's about a course. Wow, this is opening up a whole new world of what's next year out of music. You can adult contemporary bullshit. Yeah. So his friends are gonna save him. They're gonna pretend to be house painters.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Well, they're clearest plan. And they show up saying, like, oh, we're here to paint the house and the goons like, let me check on this. I didn't order any house painters and it calls the number. And they confirm that their house painters is another friend of the other side. It's like the art van de la sign film trick. They tell their house painters,
Starting point is 00:55:14 it's like, well, even though we didn't hire them, I guess your professionals, so go to town everybody. I'll paint it or whatever you agree is the right thing to be built. I like the guy, there's one of the guys is wearing, they're all wearing coveralls, cause they're painters and that's part of the costume. And you gotta, you know, you gotta wear the costume
Starting point is 00:55:30 and we're getting the character. And underneath his coveralls, he's still wearing a turtle neck. Yeah. So back at the quiz show, Dexter's Dean is freaking out and accuses the other Dean of doing something. And the other Dean is pretty smug for like not actually having Anything to do with the scheme. Here's my guess the other Dene did have a scheme to kidnap Dexter and he thinks that it went like a job Oh, yeah, so he thinks that he did it so
Starting point is 00:55:59 The painters the fake house painters are funneling paint into the gangster's cars gasoline tanks. And they're currently painting the house orange and green. Yeah, and Caesar Romero shows up and is understandably upset about his crime house being swarmed by painters who are doing the most job. Painting it so obvious. Even people who are not professional house painters can paint a house better than what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:56:28 It's all like patches of different colors. To be fair, they're not really trying to paint the house. They're not like, hey, as long as we're doing this, let's do it right. This is all just a cover. They're not trying that hard. But hey, they're missing the scene they should have had here. And this would have fit into that Joker-prequelquel idea is if one of them was so sloppy that they
Starting point is 00:56:47 had a big house brush full of white paint and they just slapped these Romero in the face with it and even painting over his mustache. Yeah. So Joker look. Wait. Well, the Joker is the Joker have paint on his face.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Have you seen the Joker? No, I haven't it's in the movie theaters and I only watch things from the comfort of my own home. Oh fair Good point fair good point. Yeah, yeah, so speaking of Caesar Romero. He's like Henshman what's going on with all these painters and guys like no, I've called a phone number They're cool and the Caesar's like let me try and so calls the number, which is like a public phone at the dorm, and this real dick of a student answers it, and just kind of fucks with, he's a Romero for a while, and blows the whole thing. I think he's the real hero of the movie.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah. So the gangsters tried sneak dexter out of the house in a trunk, but the house painter's actually shoved out a window. And they start like blasting these dudes with paint. It's like, yeah, a fucking, it's like the video game's platoon. And the, and the fall Dexter hits his head, which I presume is the, the cause of what happens later on.
Starting point is 00:58:01 So they escape and the gangsters can't follow because of the gas or the paints and the gas tank. So they follow in a like a doom buggy like all gelopy covered in flowers. Now was that theirs or is that one of the students? How did that get there? I don't know. Well, like it's just like this is one of the Disney live action movie wacky chases. Yeah, do they steal one of the like live-action movie wacky chases. Yeah, yeah, do they steal one of the wacky racers? Or something? Yeah, it's just like, I guess in the Disney world, live-action world, Dunbug, brightly painted Dunbug
Starting point is 00:58:34 used are just everywhere. Yeah, so the kids almost make the car skid out would by like putting paint on the road, they're like throwing stuff at the gangsters with, there's a great little touch where they make the car skid out and you can see there's a sign next to the road, throwing stuff at the gangsters with, there's a great little touch where they make the car skid out and you can see there's a sign next to the road that's a slippery wind wet and you're like, okay, I guess it checks out. Yeah. This will be the math and the jazz score is just screaming over the whole chase sequence.
Starting point is 00:59:00 There's more battery or screen projection and the gangsters like crash and they get launched through a haystack So just their heads are popped out on the other side Yeah, it's great And the cops show up because this was a modern movie then a cow would have shot all over their faces That's true, but seeing as this is a 60s Disney movie that did not happen So the kids get dexter out of the trunk and he's his head is ringing and he can't straighten his legs because he's been all cramped up in that trunk trunk and they take him into the
Starting point is 00:59:29 quiz and now Dexter is starting to have a hard time with answers. He's beginning to forget his, this is the end part of Flowers for Algebra as he re-stupid fies himself and- Very tasteful way to put that down. Well, that's very sensitive way to that. Yeah, he took, he lifted that from the Wikipedia summary of Flowers for Action. Yeah. Now, and here's, and when he's,
Starting point is 00:59:54 so he's having trouble answering the questions and he kind of has to force the answers out of his throat in this croaking, like struggling sound. And I think it's, is it supposed to be funny because it sounds like he's having a series of strokes. And I was really worried about Dexter. Like it's suddenly just pain. Yeah. Yeah. No, he is, you know, he's, this is taking all of his energy until finally he passes out like a dying computer. And is that what happens to dying computers? They pass out. They pass out. I personify all my electronics. That's
Starting point is 01:00:24 why when your computer, when your computer breaks breaks, you throw water on it and go wake up, wake up. Yeah. I put some smelling salt inside of the computer. You're just slapping it in the face lightly. Hey, hey, don't fall asleep. You might have a concussion computer. You're forcing black coffee into the computer's speaker. Like, come on, snap out of it.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Medfield is neck and neck with the other team They get down to the last question and one of Dexter's Non-computer teammates knows and answer for once at the last second Uh-huh, and they win the the thing which I guess comes with money that helps the college Yeah, that they're gonna spend on plumbing. They went they get $100,000 from the Encyclopedia company because this was the 60s Encyclopedia companies were flush with cash before the internet kind of put them out of business. And the gangsters show up covered in paint and they start trying to get decks again, but the police arrest them. And at the end of the scene, it's a sickle, a cyclical movie where back where we started in the meeting, where Quigley is back to ask for a piece of equipment this time, a electro heliospectrograph.
Starting point is 01:01:32 And Annie says to Dexter, if we ever get one, don't fool around with it, okay? And that's the story of the computer that wore tennis shoes as written in the stars. Was that the case? So Dan, you were really excited to watch this movie. How did it hold up in your, you saw it as a kid and you were like, I love it. I'm gonna base my life on it. I'm always gonna wear tennis shoes and I'm gonna be blue. And I'm gonna, if I go up to a woman getting off a plane, I'm just gonna kiss her, you know, on television.
Starting point is 01:02:04 So how did it hold on to you? You're gonna own a singular sweater. Just... Well, I will say this. I think it was last night. My girlfriend was like, oh, did we ever watch the movie for the podcast? I was like, yeah, yeah, we watched it. Computer war tennis shoes like oh yeah but I understand because like if I did not
Starting point is 01:02:29 have these notes I would not remember a damn thing about this movie like uh let's get into final judgment it's good bad movie bad bad movie movie kind of like I'll keep talking I look it it feels like a TV movie, much more than like a normal movie, and it feels like, like, sort of a notion for a movie more than an actual film. I would say it's bad, bad, with the caveat that like, I still kind of enjoyed it at a certain level and you know, if you have a child who, you know, like you could do worse, like there's nothing like particularly offensive, like it would distract them for a while.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I'm sure they wouldn't want to watch it in this modern world with as many better childrens. There's, I mean, Paw Patrol is a stand. But anyway, that's what I have to say about that. This movie. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, I'd certainly give this movie, I don't know, a Disney, two Disney's. Okay. What's the scale? So is that good or is that bad? I mean, it's Disney. So is this Disney plus or just Disney? There's no plus. Oh, it's always plus. I don't know. I mean, this is I mean, this is If you're a fan of Kurt Russell And you want to see you know, you'll love it. I mean, you're not gonna love it. I'm under no illusions of that
Starting point is 01:03:58 If you liked if you love to skate from LA, you'll love the computer worth denishes. Yeah, I mean, it's not particularly good. I don't think there's any real reason to watch it. It does, yeah, it feels like a, this movie probably accomplishes what it's set out to do, which is to make something that will occupy a child for a certain amount of time, so that their parents can run errands or finally have a quiet intimate moment
Starting point is 01:04:24 for physical affection. Yeah. Or, you know, like, or just take a moment to take a nip of something intoxicating so that you get through the rest of the day with this crazy kid who just needs to be occupied for a little bit of time. But it's a little Sunday afternoon time slot. Yeah, but it is I every day and it feels it really feels like a TV movie. And I was hoping that it was gonna be crazier than it was every time the movie starts to get really silly it pulls back and
Starting point is 01:04:53 Probably due to budget reasons, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know if it fits into our usual ratings I didn't really like it, but it's not that bad, but it's not like super silly fun, you know. Mm-hmm. I mean, I feel like that probably falls into the bad bad, but whatever. No, I think they don't, I'm gonna go with stewards on this one. I'm gonna say it's a Disney. Yeah, you're right.
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Starting point is 01:06:29 I have to join a community theater group. And my wife has stopped bringing home wild animals. It's the Judge John Hodgman podcast. Find it every Wednesday at MaximumFund.org, or wherever you download podcasts. Thanks Judge John Hodgman. All right, let's take a moment to honor our sponsors. Honor them? Honor them with an ad. Yeah, let's take your hat off, Elliot.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I should be standing right now, yeah. I should be standing right now, yeah. This is Bob M. As a sponsor in part by Squarespace. A Squarespace allows you to turn your cool idea into a new website, blog or publish content, sell products and services of all kinds or pretty much anything else you would desire your website to do. Squarespace does this by giving you beautiful customizable templates created by world-class designers with everything optimized for mobile right out of the box a new way to buy domains and choose from over 200 extensions and free and secure hosting. You did a great job with that, Dan. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:08:06 Now, it strikes me that this movie, it opened up a world of marketing opportunities and a demographic that I never thought of before. Sure. This computer were tennis shoes. How often have you seen a computer with shoes on it? What's a good point? Almost never.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And yet clearly, the appetite is there. And there's already a shoe company called Zappos. And yet as far as I know, it has nothing to do with somebody being zapped with electricity and switching places with a computer. And so I think there should be a website called thereelsappos.com where we sell shoes for computers. Now here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Every time you buy a pair of shoes at thereelsappos.com, we will donate a pair of shoes to a needy computer in another country. Here's another idea, guys, for a website, based on this movie. Okay, so Kurt Russell got a computer in his brain, right? It stands to reason Kurt Russell's brain is trapped in that computer right now. That this was a real vice versa, 18 again,
Starting point is 01:09:04 like father like son trading places brain switcheroo wacky Wednesday and trading places they didn't switch brains right. Uh no I think they trade the places they're in not the brains in their bodies. They're not trading the place that their brain is in. No I mean their brains remain in the same place. Okay so we got a this this is a company, it's called, hey, my brain is trapped in a computer helpme.com. And this website would be for people whose brains are trapped in computers, it'll be easy to log on
Starting point is 01:09:33 because their brain is already in a computer. And they can notify us. We will then notify their next of kin that their brain is trapped in a computer. And then they should do something about it. Yeah, that sounds pretty helpful, I'll let you. So think of it as a way to notify the people who are important in your life that your brain
Starting point is 01:09:50 is trapped in a computer that's, hey, my brain is trapped in a computer.com, you can easily remember it because of the jingle. Hey, where's my brain? It's not in my head. It's trapped in a computer.com. Yeah, that's like a subscription service, right? Yes, very much so.
Starting point is 01:10:03 It's like an insurance. So you're making sure in case your brain gets trapped in a computer, you know, you know, you know what I'm talking about. I know you're talking about that. In this modern world, you gotta be prepared for anything. Who knows what can happen. And it seems like everything is computers these days with the beeps and the boops and the kids with the screens and everything.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So hey, my brain is trapped in a computer.com. Again, there's that jingle that I just said. It's very memorable. Hey, where's my brain? It's trapped in a computer.com again. There's that jingle that I just said is very memorable Hey, where's my brain? It's not in my head. It's trapped in a computer.com So I'm starting to regret sending the only jumbo tron we have to Elliott hey everybody Jumbo tron Because he was talking so much just now. Stewart is there something you want to say in between times that might Yeah guys, I much just now, Stewart, is there something you want to say in between times that might like, yeah, a little brim.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah, guys, I guess I have something prepared here. You don't have to. I have always wanted to have your attention for just a minute. Starting from the top, let's get going. Before I start, Dan, did you have anything you want to go over? Yeah, I will. I want to say thank you to Erica, who has been worried about the fact that I always seem to be sick on the podcast. This is very up the moment. So, Erica, to help my immune system sent me some elderberry syrup that theoretically helps bolster the old immune system, and I'm supposed to take a teaspoon a day, and I'll tell you it is delicious.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Unlike most medicine, elderberry syrup is delicious, mostly because it's probably just berries and sugar, but elderberry has been used apparently for centuries in medicines. Yeah, it's why it's elder. It's very old centuries. So I guess that's all the time I have. Elated, I guess it's your time to jump together. Yeah, it's a jump-but-a-jump. Hey everybody, it's Jumbo Tron time.
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Starting point is 01:13:12 mates on your podcast delivery system or at cellmatespodcast.com. Okay. Hey, do you hear that sound? It's the rumbling sound of a jumbo Tron walking away. Jumbo tron time is over. And now that jumbo tron has his own business to deal with, it's personal, it's private and he doesn't feel the need to explain it to you. By jumbo tron, I love you. I, uh, I feel like we encouraged him by saying nice things about the first time. Diminishing returns.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I feel like you guys are, I feel like you guys get the worst of me because so for the iPodious podcast, I've been recording with John Hodgm which will hopefully be finished and released before the end of the year. Does he not have patience for your Malarkey? No, no, he does not, so I do less of it. But also, I recently performed a song on it that I wrote ahead of time and I feel like I am betraying you guys by just giving you the off the top of my head songs Whereas the song that I wrote for that one I actually sat down and wrote the lyrics the night before and it's a parody of a real song
Starting point is 01:14:14 So it has an actual tune. Oh, okay Let's move on To letters. Okay. Okay, from listeners like you. The first letter is from Daniel last name withheld. McCoy. Who writes? I'd like to start blah blah blah. Oh no. I'll just get the part of it. No. I forgot to edit out the part where he says he likes the show, which I try and do. No, no, no, but you did edit it just now by saying blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You gave it such a dignified opening. And then immediately you're so dismissive.
Starting point is 01:14:54 It's like the, if the president was coming out to do the state of the union and on the news, they're like, and okay, there's the sergeant arms. He's announcing the president. Now, the president is ascending to the podium and he is beginning to shuffle his papers and okay, and now the state of the union here is the president. And he's just going to say a bunch of bullshit. Let's go to way. That's what that was like. Uh, okay, sorry. Uh, to give Daniel last name with help to respect you deserves. I'll start over here okay
Starting point is 01:15:25 Daniel wants to know If we have experienced some form of entertainment or media that was good bad But was in a movie surely movies are the richest vain But it's something I found to be elsewhere too for example the sonic racing game Sonic R for the Sega Saturn is a good bad game in my opinion as running into walls over and over again as low poly sonic and listening to the cheesy soundtrack is enjoyable slash humorous but not the same type of enjoyment you'd find
Starting point is 01:15:55 in actually great game. What are some good bad games, music, books or other you've experienced? Thanks for the laughs, Daniel. The first thing that came to my mind is I have a couple of copies of collections of Fletcher Hank's comics. This guy with anger problems who wrote superhero comics early on in, like when superhero comics were not such a thing and people were still figuring out what they were and there was a much lower barrier to entry to write and draw them and there are all these like horrible power
Starting point is 01:16:29 fantasies where like one of the superheroes twists the gangsters necks around into weird shapes or turns them into skeletons or something. Is that what Stardust the Wizard does? Yeah, basically. And like, I don't know, they're so hard to explain. They're like what someone, again, with an anger problem might draw if someone vaguely explained the notion of what superheroes are to them. Yeah. And they're not pleasurable in the normal way, but they're fascinating. Yeah, this is a hard one. Like, I feel like movies work so well because they're such a like short finite thing that you can get, you can like enjoy a dumb thing and you know, it's going to be over soon.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Like I've tried to read books that I knew were not going to be very good. I tried to read the Da Vinci code as fast as possible once. And yeah, I mean, it was, it was took far too long. And then it's tough to also like, and like with music, for instance, like there's stuff that there's a lot of times where you'll start listening to something almost ironically and then pretty quickly realized, no, I actually like this dumb song or I like this song about battling wizards or whatever. So I don't really have many good answers unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:17:58 I think it's a fine stance to take. I was actually flutterhands with someone I was going to mention too, but in a long a similar vein there's the mystery author Harry Stephen Keeler who was writing mostly in the 30s or so the 20s and 30s, but I guess for a while. And one of his books The Riddle of the Traveling School was re-released by McSweeney's a while ago. And his writing is bonkers, and his mysteries make no sense. It's in the, I think it's in the book, X-Jones of Scotland Yard, that the murderers, the murderers, I think, that he is revealed in a footnote
Starting point is 01:18:34 on the last page. That's it, that it turns out that the flying strangler baby, that the police suspect is actually a midget disguised as a baby who has a tiny little helicopter so he doesn't leave footprints when he kills people. But he wrote such books as The Face of the Man from Saturn, The Case of the Transparent Nude, The Spectacles of Mr. Cugley Ostro, The Man with the Magic Ear Drums, and his writing is bonkers and crazy and he wrote tons of books just like constantly. And so his writing is occasionally problematic, as I'm sure any much writing for that time is.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I mean using the term midget is problematic. It shouldn't be a little person. It should be a little person. And but his his books are just crazy. So. All right. Moving on to a letter from George last name with held who writes hey peaches what up? What up? I happen to really like the zebra model f301 pen It's both sleek and sturdy while still being easy on the pocketbook under three dollars I hope this is not a buzzmarking but anyway for these reasons and others. It's a popular pen So popular that I find I noticed it being used in films and TV shows frequently and I get a little jazzed up when I see it. You all seem to write a lot. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:53 you looked down at your pen, you're like, I didn't know you were in the pictures. You all seem to write a lot. Well, I understand that much writing is done on computers these days. I was still be interested to hear which pens you all prefer. Just one more thing, are there any other objects that you have a particular affinity for and thusly are pleased to see in media? Well, see you later, George Lasting with Hild. I like there's a type of pen called Expresso. It's like, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's Nespresso, Dan. Expresso. It's like a very fine tip. It's like a porous point pen. It's like, it gives you a black line that like is similar to a really fine point felt tip, but it's, it's
Starting point is 01:20:40 like a harder point. It's not, does not have that felt point. And it's what I used to draw with for many years. And I still prefer to get them to write with. And as to other objects, I have some kind of retro, like, you know, like scotch glasses that have etched kind of squares on the side. And I remember seeing them on madmen and feeling very cool.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Oh, yeah.. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, you would lean over to the person you're watching Mad Men with and you're like, those are Michael Aces. I, well, any affinity I used to have for Mortimer Ikabod pen is now gone, but I, no, you know, I'm a sucker for big mechanical pencils, like the multi-colored clips, the little plastic ones where you just, you know, you click the eraser part.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And then I would say, oh, and when I was making my own comics, I was always a huge fan of using crow-quill pens, you know, where you dip in the Indian, just because it was a skill that I had to teach myself and that when I got, when I got pretty functional, I would never say good, but when I got functional with it, I felt like this is a skill that I've learned and now I want to practice it and use it. Yeah, those are definitely ones you have to practice on, but once you get at least someone adept, you can get great variety of line and it's good for cross-hashing, so this is
Starting point is 01:22:12 a very nice pen. I have no opinions about pens, so I guess when you guys start to spin off, the ink house, it could just be the two of you and you won't have to deal with my nonsense. Uh-huh. Okay. I feel like that we would mine a very specific niche that is probably underserved in the podcast. I think it's funny that you're the... I mean, I'm probably an asshole and there's probably like some really good-ass calligraphy podcasts out there.
Starting point is 01:22:37 I think it's funny that you're the one with the least opinion about it because you're also the one who carries a notebook around with himself and uses it most frequently to jot down notions. Well, that's the thing. I use that. I write so much with pens that I just get cheap pens. Right. Like, I don't want to spend a lot of money on pens because I go through them so fast.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I always have at least two to three pens in my pocket at any given time because people are always borrow on them and not giving them back. But I just get like real cheap pens that are irritating to use because I don't want to spend a lot of money on them. Hmm, interesting. Last letter from Monty Last Name With Held. Python. Who says, hello, peaches, I recently became a high school
Starting point is 01:23:17 custodian and has made me aware that we are typically either unseen, like in Riverdale or Buffy, or non-existent. Like when a professor goes to fix the plumbing in the boy next door. The only school custodians I can think of are groundskeeper Willie from the Simpsons, Mr. Bronca from Bob's Burgers, and the spoilers, a panorist strangler in Teenage Strangler. Do you know of other school custodians or janitors in fiction,
Starting point is 01:23:44 particularly ones that actually play a role in a movie's plot? Grime O'Leary Yours, Mottie Lasting with Health. I'm going to open this up to all janitors or custodians. I think it'll be a little hard otherwise. But the one that immediately springs to mind is the guy in the breakfast club who is like, hey, hey principal, you're just an asshole. Like these kids aren't so bad. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I was gonna talk about how there's a movie about a janitor at a college and how he's a genius
Starting point is 01:24:14 and it's called Goodwill Hunting and he's the star of the movie and he's the janitor. But he doesn't stand that. And do you like apples? How do you like those apples? But I don't actually like apples that much. I think they're much more than I really. Wait, let me take that matter.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I forget it. What's a free, like, like, tantarines, that sumo? I like a mango. Okay, okay, Jordan. Edit all that stuff out. Let's do the part. Okay, Dan. Do you like these tantarines?
Starting point is 01:24:39 No, I didn't say I like tantarines. I like tantarines. I like tantarines. I like mangoes. They did some good soundtrack work. Dan, do you like mangoes? They did some good soundtrack work. Dan, do you like mangoes? Yes, I do. OK, well, I've got a Chris Katan character.
Starting point is 01:24:50 I think you're going to like. No, no, no. And there's a, which is the movie? Is it zapped? Which is the movie where there's a janitor and he gets high and it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the movie? I think that is zapped. I think that might be like,
Starting point is 01:25:05 Scatman Crothers or something. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. But I was good, if you move it beyond just school janitors, I'm gonna mention my favorite janitor in any movie, that would be the robot janitor in the movie, Roter, who this is a movie about a crime fighting robot that goes berserk and instead goes on a rampage.
Starting point is 01:25:23 But the lab already has a robot that serves berserk and instead goes on a rampage. But the lab already has a robot that serves as the janitor and seems to live his own life and have a functioning AI and just be like a regular person. And he's maybe my favorite robot in the history of cinema. I've talked about him before. He's great. Yeah, I actually, I just finished playing through a video game called Control, where this is a school janitor, but the the the Bureau's janitor seems to be this like otherworldly entity that dispenses knowledge and weird side quests. So that was pretty cool. And also, for a school janitor, there's that Canadian comedy TV show Todd in the book of Pure Evil.
Starting point is 01:26:06 I think it's what it's called, where Jason Muse plays a school janitor who's like, supposed to be a super cool dude, and if it's played by Jason Muse, you know it's true. Yep. Classic cool guy. Okay, I think we're done narrow casting to school janitors now, and we can go on to the next.
Starting point is 01:26:28 This is what you said after you spent a while talking about pens also. Yeah, I thought this week I was like, let's get really granular with the pensions. Yeah, let's get specific. Let's recommend movies that would probably be a better use of your time than the computer or war tennis shoes. Anyone want to go first? Or shall I? I'll go. I'm going to recommend another movie that's on a different streaming service than the one we watched. I am going to recommend a movie called Wounds. It's directed by Babakon Vari, the director of Under the Shadow. This is a movie where her army hammer plays a Nolland's bar tender,
Starting point is 01:27:12 who is a real fucking mess, and he is a fuck-up in his personal life. And he also finds a telephone that seems to be a portal to hell. It's a weird movie because it kind of tries to be both a horror movie and a story of this guy's life falling apart because of his own bad decisions and it kind of succeeds at both. And there's some really creepy stuff in it. It's one of those horror movies that elicits
Starting point is 01:27:43 either like a normal rating on like IMDB or whatever rating service or like a one out of 10 stars. Like it's the kind of horror movie that makes some people very angry because of whatever expectations. But I thought it was fun and gross and weird. So, and you know, it's got Dakota Johnson in it, Zazi Beats, Army Hammer, as I mentioned. Those are good people. And you will consider most of them to be underused. Let me recommend a movie that I saw while back, re-watched last night called a face in the crowd, directed by Ilya Kazan,
Starting point is 01:28:28 it's a movie about a sort of... Fuster? No, like a huckster, who rises to prominence through understanding how to work the media and eventually gains political power even though he's a monster. And I have no idea why that might be relevant in this modern world, but we'll move on. And it stars Andy Griffith. And if you've ever, if you only know Andy Griffith from the Andy Griffith show or Matt Locke, you'll be surprised maybe by his performance here, which is intense and frightening. While still, you know, having enough sort of like genuine charisma that you understand why
Starting point is 01:29:11 people would fall under his spell, Patricia Neal is in it. She's very great as the woman who unwisely falls for him, and it also has a young and confusingly sort of handsome Walter Methal in it. And I'm not often actually a fan of Ilya Kazan's movies, I find them to be a little stagy and slow a lot of the time, but this one, the filmmaking is more kind of jazzy and impressionistic and intense. And yeah, I like it, a face in the crowd. I really like it when you take an actor that you normally know, doing one specific thing and see them in a, like, especially when you have a character that's normally a good guy
Starting point is 01:29:59 and see them get to play a bad guy. Yeah. I'm gonna recommend, I recently took a chance to revisit the movie Candy Man, which should have been a Shokto recommendation, because it's a horror movie. But, I think it's an every, it's an every time recommendation. It's an all year round recommendation.
Starting point is 01:30:16 And I was like, oh yeah, I forgot that this movie is as good as I remember it being. And so if you haven't seen it, and you think it is just like any other kind of slashery type movie, it's not, it's real atmospheric and the acting is real good in it. And I would go as far as to say this is the best of the Clive Barker movies. Would you guys agree with me on that? Well, it's probably the, I don't know, I'm such a sucker for the first two
Starting point is 01:30:43 hell racers. Yeah, I so. But I mean, but Candyman is very good. It's easily on par. Yeah. And Candyman, I think, is one of the best movies, best horror. It's one of the horror movies that pulls off the whole, no one believes me. And that being, like, as horrific as the bad guy thing the best like the lead of Virginia Madsen like really feels like she's in a trap kind of in the movie.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Yeah, and they do it usually when you watch those movies you're like why don't you just tell somebody what's happening and here that is not an option and also everyone thinks that she is eventually becoming a psychomurger. So it's such a great performance from Tony Todd, like what a career-making performance? Yeah, so it was just, I was like, oh yeah, I hadn't seen this movie in a while and it was as good as I remember it. So if you wanna watch a horror movie,
Starting point is 01:31:37 then you should watch Candy Man. If you wanna watch a movie about delicious candy and the man who makes them, then maybe Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory might be more your your speed Or if there's like a documentary about the Hershey's corporation do that It is I cannot stress this enough candy man. It's not actually about candy. Let me just say that very deceptive title Yeah, it's not and you should watch it now. I think that's one of those like movies It's in in line to be remade so you should watch the current one and you know in preparation for a
Starting point is 01:32:07 remake. Mm-hmm. Guys we did it. We kept it relatively short. I appreciate it. My throat appreciates it. Yeah. Before we go we should say thank you to our donors who keep us afloat. You are by far the reason we can still do this. Thank you to the network who provides us a framework for that sort of thing and supports us and produces a lot of other great shows. Go to maximumfun.org to check that out. Other shows. Tweet about us. Instagram about us. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Talk about us, Instagram about us. Sure, yeah. Yeah, you talk about us. They talk us about us, periscope about us,
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Starting point is 01:33:19 Yeah, you could stick it in the middle of like a review. And like the body of a review, not the title, because I couldn't be confused. That'd be crazy. People would think that we were a movie, which we're not. Hey guys, and I'd love to hear from our listeners. We're talking about our live shows for next year. If there's a city you'd like to see us in,
Starting point is 01:33:37 let us know, I'm promising nothing. But let us know if you want us to come by, maybe we will. All right, so that's all for this time. Let's put Dan to bed. Next time, I want to cheese. Next time, our 300th episode, which also happens to land on cage mess. So it's the conjunction of the planets
Starting point is 01:33:59 as was faveled, as was foreseen, fabled. As foreseen in the prophecy, the prophecy that stated that after 300 episodes We would continue doing this did you did your granny tell you that that prophecy? You know my my grandma was told me that 300 episodes would fall on cage miss and At the time I didn't know what any of that meant But now you were right grandma.mama. You were right. And that's when the demons came in, cut to 5,000 years in the future.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Oh, awesome. All right, well, thank you for listening as always for the flop as I've been Dan McCoy. I'm still Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliot Kaelin. Now feeling like I picked up Dan's sickness the internet is that possible? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's the premise of this horror script. I'm writing the sickness is strong in the Elliott Goodbye everyone Streaming on Disney plus or is it Disney minus? Okay. See, just earned the snarf at the end there.
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