The Flop House - Ep. #305 - Little Italy

Episode Date: February 15, 2020

It's the second and final of our two contest winner-selected episodes, this one picked by Scott Yacychyn, who designed our delightful new Flop House "couch monsters" poster, which you can purchase HER...E! It's a romantic comedy called Little Italy (or as they pronounce it, li'lit'ly), set in the world's most romantic city... Toronto! Meanwhile, Stuart gets mad at Elliott, Dan gets mad at Elliott and Stuart, and Elliott just keeps on singing a happy song. Wikipedia synopsis of Little Italy Movies recommended in this episode: Birds of Prey: And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn (or whatever bullshit they re-named it) Tammy and the T-Rex (R-rated cut) Howards End LIVE SHOW ALERT! – The Flop House in Toronto – April 18!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On this episode we discuss Little Italy. Good thing I watched this movie, I almost forgot about it. Yeah! Oh! Okay. Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house. I'm Dan McCoy. Oh hey guys, I'm Stuart Wellington. And hey, it's Elliot Kalen. I was going to be real big and then Stuart came in kind
Starting point is 00:00:51 of quiet and contemplative and kind of low. That's good. You're matching his energy. Yeah, I got it. They call me the energy matcher. Uh-huh. Is that the improv character? We're going to start doing a scene around. Yeah. he's the guy who matches whatever energy he's around. But, uh-oh, that means if you lock him in a room with like, I don't know, Josh Gad, he is gonna be off the walls. But then you put him in a room with, uh, who's real low energy? Like Billy Eilish? Yeah, Stephen Wright. Stephen Wright, Billy Eilish. They're finally collaborating.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah. So, hey guys, this is a podcast where we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it. And we did a contest a while back. We did a contest. Yep, that's the right verb. We did a contest. And so, Dan, did we enter the contest? No, okay. We held the contest.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Oh, okay. For designers to design new merch for us. It would be, it was a contest just to put into context for the listeners. Contest contest. It's a similar, similar to like, if you were to go to say an Italian cultural festival. Of course. A contest as to who makes the best pizza. We did something like that, but instead of pizza,
Starting point is 00:02:07 it was about podcast-related merchandise. Yeah. And- Thank you for that context. It was very useful. And the prize for the contest was you get to pick the movie we're going to watch and talk about. Let me explain the part of the contest that is most applicable to the information we need to provide to the lister. Dan's just deleting emails right now.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I'm trying to find so the guy who selected this movie gave us a little information about how to... And Dan, I assume as a podcasting professional you have that cute up ahead of time? I do, well I did have it cute up, but then he has a unusual last name that I did ask him how to pronounce it. I was trying to find the email where he explained that. But I have it. His name is Scott Yakashin, and he picked a movie called Little Italy. Little Italy.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Or as my grandmother would pronounce it little Italy. I'm over pronouncing it because as Audrey pointed out, not since the rural juror has a movie name, hard to pronounce if you kind of do it quickly. So although everyone in the movie pronounces it, yeah, they do like sort of a little Italy. So yes, I mean, there's a wide variety of Italian accents. Yes. From real to comically over time. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And to comically underdone. Like this is, we'll talk about it, but this is maybe considering it's a movie about little Italy with it two families that own pizza rias. Two families. It's united in pizza pizza equal in a steam It's maybe the least Italian movie I've ever seen like the Irishman felt more Italian than this movie I mean not every Italian person has like a comic opera accent
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's called little Italy. They are pizza places. Come on. I mean no matter what Andrea Martin will have you believe They don't know. They're like, oh man. It's a me, ah. And Andrea Martin, man, what a treasure. I mean, she's great. She's vastly overplaying this role. But what? I think I would say the opposite.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I think partly because it makes sense that this is the little little of Toronto, which is probably a little bit less over the top than the little Italy I'm used to, which is the tri-state area of the United States, little Italy, you know, downtown Manhattan or in New Jersey, where everyone is trying to outdo themselves and how crazily cartoonish they can sound in real life. Yes, but let's, I want to read what Scott had to say about this movie. He said, how do you do floppers? I first came across this movie when me and my partner
Starting point is 00:04:48 were holed up in a hotel one frigid Chicago night. Scrolling through the still in theater section, we were baffled to find, little Italy, a film that we were both fairly certain was not still in theaters. Nor had it ever been in any theater. Was the television receiving broadcast from another dimension?
Starting point is 00:05:06 One where Hayden Christensen had jet black hair? We decided to shell out the sensible 1895, I don't know about that, and quickly discovered that the movie did come from an alternate universe of sorts, a world of ketchup potato chips and public health care known as Canada. As we watched, I realized that this brand of tomato sauce flexed with maple syrup cinema would be perfect fodder for three Frank D'Angelo devotees such as yourselves. Although as far as I know, the Sicilian vampire fails to
Starting point is 00:05:34 make a cameo appearance. I sure hope you guys enjoy this movie from the great right north or at the very least. I hope it provides an opportunity for Elliot to make a that's a more a pun at some point in the podcast and I did want to say I forgot to mention the particular piece of merch that Scott Yacke's in did for us it's a the poster of us all sort of big daddy Roth style watching a movie. Oh cool yeah. Well this I'm just gonna get the started right away guys. This contest has yielded some delicious fruits like tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So we are going to jump directly into little Italy. And you know, just right off the bat guys, I love it when a movie opens with the central theme of what the movie's about. It's like in what is that? 5 million miles to Graceland. movie's about. It's like in, what is that? 5 million miles to Graceland, the movie about battling Elvises. Yeah, 5 million miles to Graceland. It takes place on Venus.
Starting point is 00:06:32 We're the, we're the movie opens with. It's about aliens who love Elvises. The, the, the, the, the emir is coming to Earth. He loves Elvises. I mean, Venetians aren't necessarily aliens if they're on Venus, but we'll get to that later. So, but that movie opens with, you know, it's a movie about two battling all the, so the movie opens with two CGI scorpions battling in the desert. And I feel like this movie opens, this movie opens with a eggplant and a tomato exploding
Starting point is 00:07:03 in an Italian man's face, which kind of shows how like two great Italian flavors are more delicious when put together. And now, do you think the eggplant, as with emojis, represents the male penis and the tomato represents the female genitalia? Certainly, that is, it is just an introduction to exactly how horny this movie is, which is off the charts. Very. Oh, before we get into the point, I hope. How many runtgins of hornyness does this movie have? Well, the meter says 3.5 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:33 But that's as high as the meter goes. The meter only goes that high. It's going to take, you're going to have to get a West German robot to try to defuse this, the hornyness in this one. The hornyness killed the robot already. No. So I want to mention this movie comes from the Petri or Petri, Canadian American filmmaking dynasty.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And it is a Petri dish of various flavors. Yeah, you know, you shouldn't eat out of a Petri dish, you know, it's not a cookie dish. It's kind of so. Don't eat the pan, you don't eat don't shouldn't eat out of a petri dish. It's not a cookie dish. Don't eat the pen, you don't eat penicillin just out of a dish like. No, no, no, no boy. Why? I don't have a, because what, it used to spoon or fork. No, yes. So penicillin was discovered when a doctor, Jonas Salk saw some yummy looking mold in his petri dish and just scooped it up with his bear claws And just shoveled into his mouth and he said oh, I don't have polio anymore. So okay It is directed by Donald Petri who also directed Mystic pizza and Grumpy old man and in my research I found his dad what I think also miscigeniality yeah, miscigeniality
Starting point is 00:08:40 His dad directed a raisin in the sun and for to patchy the Bronx his brother That's his dad Daniel Petriin in the Sun and Ford Apache the Bronx. His brother, that's his dad, Daniel Petri. His brother, Daniel Petri Jr. wrote Beverly Hills Cop and Turner and Hooch. His mother, Dar Thea Petri, was a film producer. And his sister, Mary Petri, is an actress and she was in the hidden. And his other sister, June Petri, is a movie producer. So this is a major movie, family dynasty that I had never heard of, even though they apparently received an AFI award for being a family that makes movies
Starting point is 00:09:07 All of them. Yeah, that sounds great That's a excellent background. Elliot. So the movie opens on two little kids Just hanging out being best friends now introduced to Leo and Nikki. Yes, Dan I want to I know I'm jumping in here, but I just want to say these two little kids will grow up to be Emma Robertson Hayden-Krischenson. Uh-huh. Yep Hayden-K say these two little kids will grow up to be Emma Roberts and Hayden Christensen. Uh-huh. Yep, Hayden Christensen, who is a full decade older than Emma Roberts, but they appear to be about the same age at the time that they're doing.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Well, I mean, that's the, that's the, that's part of the problem with, you know, like the entertainment industry where they've kind of normalized the idea to end that, you know, these much older men are roughly the same ages younger women. So that when he's bump into 20-year-old couples, where they're both 20 years old, you're like, who's this little boy? Yes, that is an issue.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I am your son to the pizza real. I feel like, yes, I feel like while pairing an older man with younger women in movies is a very real issue. This is a slightly different issue. I think it's trying to make us believe that Hayden Christensen and Emma Roberts are the same age. That is a, well, it's like watching Hobbes and Shaw, a movie that posits that, you know, Jason Statham
Starting point is 00:10:17 and the amazing actors whose name has slipped out of my head who places sister. Meryl Streep. Yes, I think it is Marl Street, Ellie. I'm just gonna go out and limb and guess that. So Rebecca Ferguson or? It is not Rebecca Ferguson. Una O'Connor.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Nope. Nope, let's not just go down a list of actress names. Betty Davis. I've already made my guess. I already said Marl Street. Okay. But they suggest that these two are, are like basically exactly the same age.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And I'm like, well, Jason saved them 50. And IMDB does not list this actress as age, but I'm assuming it's not 50. It's a, that's a Kirby, but she was also a super mission impossible movie, which is probably why I was confusing. I think Dan, the bigger issue, yeah, you get partial credit, I guess. Yeah, yeah. The bigger issue, when you just said mission impossible, as if that was her name. The way, the way an old person.
Starting point is 00:11:07 We're not paying attention to what what happened. I think Dan the issue for me was less that Hayden Kistensen is clearly much older than her and more the fact that we're supposed to believe the two of them are Italian with. Well Hayden Kistak. I looked up. He actually has some Italian in his background and Roberts has none, she does. Well, I mean, she is the daughter of Eric Roberts, who was in Pope of Greenwich Village, and at least one Batman, who we... I guess just true. But he's a lot of Italian people, so.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And Hayden Christensen, as you can tell from his name, is the son of Jesus Christ, who many Italians worship. So, yeah, I guess, okay, just sad. I, that just reminded me about how in Batman Begins, Tom Wilkinson has the best Italian accent as a mob boss. Oh man, that rules. Okay. So yeah, we're introduced to these two kids. They're best friends. There's also definitely some romantic interest. Nikki clearly has a crush on Leo Leo and both of their parents, both of their fathers own a pizzeria The best pizzeria in all of little Italy, Toronto
Starting point is 00:12:11 called pizza napoli And one thing I'm before we get further into the plot I just want to say I love how this movie is very unabashedly set in Toronto. Yes Like there are Canadian flags everywhere, there's Air Canada product placement, that's great. So, flash forward. Nikki is now all grown up in culinary school in London. Do I miss a fucking super important point?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yes, you did. The dads are prepping for the big pizza contest. That doesn't fucking matter at this point. We was a second because they're all right all right and also I would say Andre Martin as the grandmother she tells Nikki never squeeze the love out of a man's heart you what you squeezing those tomatoes you got your squeezing them till there's none left in them but never squeeze a man's heart that way yeah I like I like the second one because because it's a funny quote but I have to agree with Stuart that there was no reason
Starting point is 00:13:05 to backtrack for a- The whole movie's about to stupid pizza contests. A plot point that we were going to bring up later on. Elliot was hoping that I would mention the pizza contest, but not mention that there's going to be results so that people are sitting on the edge of their seat for the rest of my fucking summer. Yes, thank you, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm trying to build some suspense for the ladies. Obviously, they're going to win because they're the best, but there's a whole movie. So I don't know what's going to happen. So, Nikki is now in London. She's working for Jane Seymour, who is this like evil Gordon Ramsay type chef character. And obviously it's Jane Seymour. She's great.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Oh, wait, I had a question for you, Dan, in this one. So Nikki says something about I was actually learning to cook like four Michelin stars cook. I thought Michelin stars only went up to three. Uh, yes, I think that was true. I think maybe recently they added another Michelin. Let me let me read inflation. I see. Okay. Well, I just figured you know that better than me because you're like Mr. Cook. You're like, hey, I got to make a heat supply in my house. Maybe she's showing like a cultural tendency for hyperbole, Ellie. Oh, okay, I believe that, okay. So, and now we introduce like one of the major challenges of the movie,
Starting point is 00:14:18 because Jane Seymour offers, once again, Jane Seymour's playing a character. It's not Jane Seymour, they act. She offers Nikki the opportunity to compete to write a menu for her brand new hot restaurant. The only problem is she has to get this menu done and then she has to change her student visa to a work visa. So she's gonna have to go back to Toronto for a brief time only to return to London.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So she's gonna have to go back and see her family. And why is that a A problem, Elliot. That's a problem because there's some bad blood going an unfinished business between her family and Leo. Could this be related to that? Pizza contest, you were so fucking hot for her. Well, yeah, maybe it's entirely about the pizza contest. No, no, no, but you're right. You're right, Stuart, I was mentioning the exploding eggplant was much more on point than the pizza contest that is literally the pivotal thing in the entire movie. It's not like the exploding vegetables was like, it was a carefully crafted joke that I spent
Starting point is 00:15:18 the whole time in the cab coming up with and I was like, which angle should I go with? Also, I confirmed that you're correct that there's still only three mission-long stars you can get. So maybe she's saying, like, I'm gonna be so good, they'll give me a fourth star, but it comes off as, it's so casually said that I was like, does the movie not know how many stars, did they not do that amount of research?
Starting point is 00:15:37 So yeah, now this introduces that the families are now war, their fathers, Vincent Sal have separated and they have opened up their own separate pizza parlors the how do they how do they how do they show us visually that the dads are older than they were in the old scenes they don't have beards anymore is that it that's one of the most ages mustache and I was like no no when you get older you're supposed to grow a beard you don't he looks younger wait yeah I guess you're right you do look beard. You know, he looks younger. Wait, yeah, I guess you're right. You do look younger when you don't have facial hair.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And unless you're Lance Hendrickson, I bet Lance Hendrickson, if he grows a beard, you're like, who's his 20-year-old stud? Yeah, probably. That's because he covers up all those pumpkin head scars, yeah. That's how he got him. Yeah. Okay, so we also were also reintroduced to Leo at this point now played by Hayden Christensen. He's used to playing a character who was earlier introduced as a young boy and is now a grown-up man.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And he had Christian. We're gonna need to have a grown-up play character who is once a young person, once a kid, get me hate and Christensen. Yeah, we all remember young, young shattered glass. Yeah, where he's like, he's like a little reporter. A boy reporter like 10ton. So does this thing just make stuff up? Is that what 10ton is about? Yeah, that's why, like that's why all those old 10ton com com was for kind of racist, because 10ton himself was kind of racist. That's the sad part. That's the sad thing that they never
Starting point is 00:17:07 tell you. Wow. Okay. So the real issue was not the the making the fantabulousing. It was the it was the racism. Yeah. Yeah. So at this point Leo has been introduced introduces played by Hidden Christianson. You're probably wondering yes he does at some points have longer spiky hair, at some points, have longer spiky hair and at other points have shorter flat hair. I don't know why this is. It could be because he's wearing a scooter helmet because he wears a scooter. So he's a real Casanova, all the ladies love him. We're also introduced to some additional side characters that work in the Pizzerias. Both Pizzerias employ a character of Asian descent.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And yes, you're wondering, yes, there also kind of racist toward those characters. Well, specifically the Indian subcontinent, because there is another Asian character who's of Chinese ethnicity later. And this movie makes some jokes that like, even if I feel like if Hank Azaria was watching, you'd be like, woof, I'm off the hook now.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. Well, especially because the Chinese guys also gay and that is shown by him later on harassing Hayden Christian Senna, with it. I mean, their buddies, so like, Hayden Christian's it seems cool with it, but,
Starting point is 00:18:16 I thought it took that as playful Joshin. He, I mean, Hayden Christian Sen does get harassed by that police woman later on in a scene I found genuinely very disturbing and uncomfortable. We'll get to that. We'll get to it. The part where she is openly groping him in front of everybody and describing his penis
Starting point is 00:18:32 and stuff like that, like that's not funny. It was just. It was horrifying and it went on forever. The thing was it came right after a scene that was also horrifyingly sexual because this movie is, as I mentioned, horny and scary ways. I will say, I wasn't careful with that scene because if it was a woman, it would be totally unacceptable. Like the movie thinks it can get away with it
Starting point is 00:18:56 because it's a woman- I mean, that, that scene exists with a woman in a managed from Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans. That's how terrifying it is. But I have to admit that like, if it, what, the woman, the actress, I found very funny, even while thinking like this should not be, yeah, I mean, she didn't write the scene probably.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I'm guessing there's a lot of improv in that scene. Yeah, yeah. But okay, so the dads, they have to competing pizza places because they broke up for unknown reasons after the pizza contest. And by breaking up, both of them are suffering financially and in some ways with their own,
Starting point is 00:19:27 with their familial relationships. We learn that the wives played by Alissa Molano, who brings, actually brings a certain gravitas to this movie. I kind of like her performance. And I don't remember the actress who plays Vince's wife, but they're still friends. They're like, they're secretly colluding and like trying to find ways to get their idiot husbands to their make-a-man's hiding glasses in in in popped-and-plant so they can
Starting point is 00:19:57 talk to each other. Love it. Love it. That's a, I believe that's Linda Cash who plays that that role and she's a second city alum, she's been a bunch of TV shows. Wow. And we also, and this is another plot line that will develop over the course of the movie, we also learn that the grandparents, Nono and Nono, right? That's what they call grandparents.
Starting point is 00:20:20 No, that's grandma. No, that's grandma. And no, no, is grandpa because grandpa's love that song that goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, well, because they pair him with Andrea Martin, who's like, he's like, oh, I don't know, my boy, he's a cool one. Yeah, it's almost like people are like, no, this is actually a stage performance. There's no cameras here.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So, and yeah, so it turns out that they're also secretly having an affair that will develop over time, and affairs in like an actual romance. They're not married to anyone else. No, but noona did promise her dead husband she would never marry again, which is a real hurdle to get over. And a shitty thing for,
Starting point is 00:21:17 I don't know whether the husband demanded it or whether she... No, no, I think more that she, maybe more that she vowed. She, okay. Thanks for saying no, no, I think more that she maybe more that she she valid. She okay. Thanks for saying no, no, by the way. So we also find out that because of those financial problems, Leo can't just work at his family's pizzeria. He also works at the bar that he lives above. That's right. Luigi's bar. Tell us about Luigi.
Starting point is 00:21:41 So Luigi is a Chinese man who comedically is called Luigi and wears Italians. He has like an affected Italian accent. He wears a lot of chains. I think he has a belt that says Italian on it. And he runs this like fun dive bar. So fun in fact that at one point the entire bar just goes outside to play a soccer game and pour shots at each other's mouth with no money being exchanged. Yeah. I feel so was that the part where you were watching you were going, no. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I was like flipping the table over and tearing out my hair and Charlie's like, it's just a movie and I'm like, it feels so real. So, uh, uh, Leo goes to work. Nikki arrives for, uh, arrives from London. She is picked up by her friends, uh, her friends take her. She's like, I can't see my parents yet. I need a drink. So they all go out to Luigi's bar. That's the local bar. And of course, they run into Leo who is as we at this point,
Starting point is 00:22:43 understand, very hot. Every woman wants him, every man wants him. He's amazing. Um, he's hotter than a fresh slice of pizza right out of the oven. And they are immediately making super horny flirtation. He pulls a soccer ball out and you're like, what are they going to do with this soccer ball? Well, the thing is that Leo and Nikki have this long history of playing soccer.
Starting point is 00:23:06 So of course, you know, they go outside in the rain, they get all super wet, do a bunch of shots, and then we have this romantic scene of Leo kicking soccer balls at Nikki over and over. It is pouring outside, by the way. Oh yeah, it's like a monsoon in Toronto. And I, you know, maybe I would believe that these two flirtatious like competitive characters would go out and do this in the pouring rain but there's a huge crowd out there watching
Starting point is 00:23:32 them too. Many without umbrellas and I found that crazy. Also it's clearly astroturf based on the way the water is pooling beneath them. Oh wow. Flood clubs right that one in. Oh public park burn from Dan McCoy. So of course at this point, you know, they they have this great scene, super romantic. They both get wasted. But of course before they can kiss, Nikki passes out drunk in the rain on Leo's lap. Flash forward to the next morning.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Flash forward to the next morning. She's dead. He left her there with her mouth open. She drowned. She, uh, yeah, on that pool in a pool of water on Astridor. Flash words the next morning she's dead he left her there with her mouth open she drowned she Yeah, on that pool in a pool of water on Astrid her So she wakes up naked in a strange bed And then of course where we see that Luigi is pulling on his undershorts. He makes her briefly believe that they had slept together and then he no, just kidding. And then Leo comes in and does the same thing.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And I'm like, what the fuck, dudes? Like, it's not funny to infer that you sexually assaulted somebody. And then there's a lot of close talking in this bedroom that also amplifies that threat of sexual violence. It's really weird to me. Yeah, so I was kind of put off, so I don't actually remember what happened at this point. Well, they're kind of talking to each other about, she thinks they slept together and he goes,
Starting point is 00:24:50 no, no, you didn't. I just put you to bed in your dress, and I don't know what happened after that. And they talked to each other. No, no, no, he took the clothes off, but only because she was soaking wet from the fucking monsoon. I think she said she took them off and he brought them up. Yeah, and he said, he says I put you into bed closed. What happened after that, I don't know. So she probably took them off in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But they talked to each other. It's one of those conversations you see in a romantic comedy where it's like, we can't be together. We're from two different worlds. Like we just don't have enough in common. And it's like, you're from the same world. Like your dads were in business together.
Starting point is 00:25:22 You're both in the same business. Like, come on. Yeah, I mean, she's in her own places and he's stuck in, stuck in a little Italy. No, yeah, that's true. I guess that's it. But I guess I wish they had said that. Yeah, I mean, as addressed later on in the movie, it's called Little Italy because it never changes.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Something I don't quite understand, but I think it's applicable in the movie. Yeah, it doesn't. Like, I wish it was, it's a reminder of the line in the movie Heist when Dady DeVito goes, of course you need money. Everybody needs it. That's why they call it money, and it's like, that doesn't make any sense. Like it sounds like it makes sense, which is like, that's why they call it little Italy
Starting point is 00:25:57 because nothing ever changes. It's like, wait, so are you saying little things don't change? Or Italy doesn't change because little things often change. They grow into bigger things children small cats small elephants They hate entrace in yeah, hey, and Christians in exactly whereas Italy has also seen a number of changes over its period from the kind of Separate disputed states that were the case room. Well, let's go back all the way to the ancient era of Rome Yeah, to the to the different Occupied states of the 18th and early 19th centuries
Starting point is 00:26:27 to the unified Italy that we know today, which itself went through the changes of the fascist governments and current democratic governments. So I would say to you, Emma Roberts, aka Nikki Angioli, Italy has changed quite a bit. And if you're not okay with accepting that, then maybe you shouldn't be Italian. Oh, you're not Italian, Emma Roberts. I'm so sorry. I apologize. Yeah. I mean, little Italy is a little bit like a teenager that transforms into a car and then transforms back into a teenager. And both times you're like, this is kind of sexy. It's time for the race. I was talking about turbo teen, but
Starting point is 00:27:00 okay. So now, so we get some stuff where the two Pizzerias are the two owners of Pizzerias are playing pranks on each other and by pranks, I mean, at one point, I guess they had called what the they like they called the IRS or the Canadian equivalent, claiming the other performed tax evasion. I think it's called the IRA. I think it's called the IRA. Oh, there's an ASA A sometimes in their senses. I mean, that would be funny, except for it evokes Irish terrorism. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Wow, Dan's making a political stand on this podcast. So we sat against terrorism. Sure. Wow, that's very brave you Dan. Do we, should we take a moment to just think about it? Or what would be the one? Dan, I notice you've got a number of different colored ribbons on your jacket.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Can you tell us about some of those? The audience can't see them. It's weird that you would wear them for a podcast recording, but just tell us what they stand for. I just like ribbons, but I like looking like a president. Or like an ultimate warrior. Yeah. I mean, isn't that the. Or like an ultimate warrior. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I mean, isn't that the ultimate president? The ultimate warrior? Yeah. But what's this current prank, which? The current prank is that Sal has switched out. He has spiked Vince's oregano stash with a different kind of stash entirely. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:24 He swaps out the oregano with marijuana. A thing that looks very similar, but smells fairly different. And also this movie was clearly made by someone who has never smoked or eaten marijuana because the reaction is like people are dancing on tables and going nuts. And getting super horny.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah. All the way to this old lady is dancing on a table and she's super turned on by the way. I think she drags Joji up on the table and he is also horny, but I think he was horny before. I don't think he had any of these at all. Elliot, I know you're... Oh God, let me say a thing.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Sorry, Dan, me and Stuart and I are having a conversation here, but I know you need to say your things. Well, you God, Dan, people cover me up all the time. Jesus, Elliot, I know that. I know that sauce with some delicious mozzarella. I know that you do not partake of the marijuana, but it will often make you a little horny. What it will not do is make you want to dance.
Starting point is 00:29:20 It is well known for making you want to lie on the couch and watch television. That's what I'm talking about. When I'm around people and they're smoking marijuana, usually they fall asleep. Yes. Or they start talking about nonsense that I don't need to know about. And I get out of there and I go, save it for your podcast buddy. And then they have a podcast called Dan in High Life.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And it's where Dan just gets high and talks about whatever. Yeah. So it actually sounds pretty good. I don't know. I don't know. You should do that. So actually, it sounds pretty good. Why didn't you do that? I don't know. You should do that. 10 years ago. Sure, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I need a more regular supplier of weed. Do a whole podcast. All right, I'll get it for you. So in researching this movie, I noticed that on the IMDB trivia, they mentioned that even, this is so that we know the movie is not out of date. Even though marijuana use was legalized in Canada
Starting point is 00:30:05 10 months after this movie was released, you would still need to buy that pot-infused pizza from a government store. So the scene still works, everybody. Yeah, I mean, I don't write into the makers of literally insane this is out of date and it dates them if it still works. I mean, I assumed if it was, even if it was legal,
Starting point is 00:30:22 you can't spike somebody's stuff with a drug. It's still illegal to give drugs to somebody without their knowledge. Yes. No matter how legal a drug is, I think that's always illegal. Okay, so we're also introduced to, there's a slight, this really is an complication.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I just wanna bring attention to a new character, Lisa the flight attendant, who shows up mainly to make it seem like Emma Roberts is not attractive as she is a paramour of Leo's. But obviously she doesn't matter to him. She never appears again. She never appears again. This is exclusively to restate that Leo is hot and also to suggest that airplanes may play a part later on in the movie. So we'll get to that. Now, and so I don't want to, I don't want to gloss over the scene that we mentioned before. After the pizza is spiked, it's where we get the moment where a lady cop is, is basically
Starting point is 00:31:13 groping Leo to, she's searching his body for, I don't know, a weapon, I don't understand. And she's just grabbing him everywhere and commenting on it. And again, the purpose of this is to remind the audience that Leo is supposed to be some hunk of man. And it's gross and super uncomfortable. Yeah, it's really, she's literally squeezing his butt and talking about how hard it is to everybody in this crowd of people that are watching. And I was like, oh, this is like something
Starting point is 00:31:38 out of like the 120 days of Sodom. So it's so horrifying to me that the amount of powerlessness that he has in that moment, and that he's on display while it's so horrifying to me that the amount of powerlessness that he has in that moment and that he's on display while it's happening. It's like, it made me think that this was like a, you know the movie White Man's burden where they're like, what if white people were like black people? It was like, this is out of some movie where they're like, what if men were treated the way men treat women? I think it could go like this. It just, it feels wrong in this movie. I guess is what I'm saying. But yeah, so it, but I think it also like, it's another moment where the just general feeling
Starting point is 00:32:12 of horniness, bullet like kind of bleeds into the, like the main narrative here. I mean, Toronto has, it has one hornious city in Canada for I think 70 years running. Oh, oh wow. Yeah, but I think, I think what is it? Montreal is the gotta be the horniest. Well, the Montreal doesn't consider itself Canadian. Let's not stick our feet in that land mine. Okay, damn. The place where corner
Starting point is 00:32:35 gas happens is pretty horny. Guys, you know what? I think Canada might be having sex. Wow. Canadians right in. tell us, are you? Are you doing it? This is just right in here. I think you guys are opening a can of worms, you do not want. Just right to the flop house care of real life, Mounty. And just tell us, are you doing it?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Canada, we want to know. So yeah, we get some more comedic scenes. We get a scene where the two father, Sal and Vince continue their tradition of having this like kind of celebrity roast battle where they go to Luigi's and make fun of each other until one of them gets mad and stands up. We have a scene where No No and No No are sneaking around
Starting point is 00:33:26 and have to meet up at a Starbucks because nobody will see them there. And then they both have what like a Machiato or whatever for the first time and they become addicts. It's such a weird moment where they're both kind of orgasming over how good they like think the coffee at Starbucks is. It was a strange moment in the movie. And then there's like a garden party where Nikki's friend is hosting and they're trying to continue Nikki's mother played once again by Alissa Milano, who's great, is trying to
Starting point is 00:33:56 set Nikki up with a husband because here's the thing. Nikki knows that she is not planning on staying in Toronto. She's just there to get her work visa and then she's going back to London. I'm not going to say that she is as big of a coward as the boyfriend in mid-summer, but I feel like if she had just come out and told these people that she is worried about making feel bad, we wouldn't have all these problems, right guys? Uh, wait, making who feel bad. Her parents, she doesn't wanna tell her parents
Starting point is 00:34:26 and theoretically Leo. Yeah. But, you know, we all come to those moments where we wanna spare people the heartbreak, but in turn, we're just kinda like, we're behaving cowardly, you know what I mean? Yeah. Have we got to the point yet where they hang out
Starting point is 00:34:40 and eat pizza? We're about to go there. No, that's kind of, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's after. I want to briefly mention the fellow Mark Anthony that they tried to set her up with who visibly grabs his crotch and then starts sniffing her cast off high heel chew. And he's also a mortician. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And so in the, this movie, finally, we've had a flop house movie that had bloops during the credits, but in the bloops, they have him talking and he goes, you know, they're not just bodies, they're kind of my friends, friends with benefits, you know, and it's like they did not need to make this character as as undatable as possible. Like, there are certain points in the movie where they're like, let's go way overboard and have a character that is so cartoony, he becomes sinister. I did laugh at that bloop though. Do you think that do you think that they like had A collection of scenes almost a triptick of scenes of her meeting three different guys that all had a had a fetish or a thing that she was not Interested in and they're like too much time combine them on the one guy
Starting point is 00:35:39 And crash as a foot fetish and also it probably has is necrophilia. Recast the scene, just get one dude, have him do it all, yeah, I think so. I mean, they probably saw the actor, they're like, he is the entire package. Yeah, I wanna make it clear, like, if you have a foot fetish, great. Just don't, but that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:35:58 That someone's cast off shoe without their consent. Just without, if just ask someone's permission before you smell their shoe, that's turning. It's okay. In no way I'm I passing judgment on a foot fetish. I feel like the movie is passing judgment. No, the movie is implying that this I mean we shouldn't pass judgment on morticians either like it's a necessary part of you gotta do something that bodies I don't think that's what we're we're passing judgment No, I think I think that they're deliberately making his job on appealing to her. Yes, the movie It's not like the move. it's not like the movie,
Starting point is 00:36:25 it's not like when she hears the mortician, she's like, okay, cool, like she's turned off by that also. Oh, I guess I'm assuming that the bloop is part of the canon that he has friends you have in just with the bodies. That's what I'm assuming. Now, as we know, it's not canon, I guess, the monstery. It's not in the film.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Anything that happens during or after the closing credits is just apocryphal. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, like the gnostic gospel book. The gnostic little Italy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, just because Hayden Khrushenzen's involved
Starting point is 00:36:54 doesn't mean that there's some kind of extended universe. Yeah. So Leo and Nikki, their fathers are feuding two different restaurants. They had an argument. They come from different worlds. What are you gonna do? Get together for a romantic pizza making dinner, right? And man, I love this date.
Starting point is 00:37:12 You know, they're gonna cook dinner together. She starts eating and she's like, oh, this is so great and he's like, he's like, don't fill up on the appetizers. And I'm like, what the fuck? Why wouldn't he call it antiposte or whatever the fuck? Like, who calls it appetizers? I want to say too.
Starting point is 00:37:27 He has a, once again, I threw the table over. I had already righted it previously. He just went, you just went, Ma, Ron, I started biting your knuckles, you're so mad. He has a pizza oven in his apartment. It's a apartment with a big open fire. Which I do not think is the thing that people have in their apartment.
Starting point is 00:37:44 It's probably not, which I do not think is the thing that people have in their apartment. And it's probably not officially a zoning approved thing. You have an open pizza oven in your second or third floor apartment. Yeah. Yeah, and he is more interested in, you know, fancier pizza pies than the very traditional pizzas being sold by his father. And he puts fakes on the pizza. And he reminds us like, fucking blown by this in a way that like, anybody who's like a professional chef should not be like,
Starting point is 00:38:12 wow, figs on a pizza. No, no, but Dan, she tells him to put figs on the pizza. No, she doesn't. Yeah. I was too busy. The thing is guys, I can't decide because the whole time I was wondering, are they gonna fuck on this pizza? Well, Dan, you and I are gonna have to go back and rewatch the movie.
Starting point is 00:38:28 He's talking about the crust. He has a specific way he does the crust, and she says, put the figs on the pizza that'll cut through the cheese. And so we're seeing that they are combining their talents and that they make the perfect pie. But you're right, he does have a rooftop garden of organic ingredients, and he dreams of opening his organic pizza place. Which, by the way, that rooftop garden has upwards of 16 or 17 lamps on it, but they're like house lamps.
Starting point is 00:38:51 They're like table lamps with lampshades and stuff. It's a very like sitcom set. Yeah. Like I don't know whether he like set those up because he knew she was going to come up there. I don't know. Audrey was very much like, what if it rains? What's going on? Why is it going to be lame?
Starting point is 00:39:07 As we've already... Wait a minute. Sokker in the rain. Oh no. Yeah, so the date goes pretty well. At one point, somebody says, you're speaking my language, and then they do some sexy Italian dancing. And then Nikki abruptly leaves. She says I need to leave or else
Starting point is 00:39:26 I'll stay and he doesn't quite realize that she's you know that is she's talking about an issue larger than just that night. Meanwhile, grandpa is faced with the prospect of not not getting to actually sleep with Nona. So she says, you got to put a ring on it. I think she even says like Beyonce. Yeah, he mentioned Beyonce a couple times in the movie and with diminishing returns each time. Oh, no, no, I disagree. I love the last time when Andy Martin goes,
Starting point is 00:39:56 I'm a Beyonce. So of course, he proposes because, you know, what else is he going to do, right? Like, he doesn't know that much going on. Come on, What's he gonna do wrap a slice of pizza around his dick? No, he wants her I guess I guess it is a binary choice Elliott If you're not married you got to wrap some pizza Just saying he doesn't have a lot of options
Starting point is 00:40:22 So Yeah, so at this point, like, you know, our two characters kind of go off and speak with their parents and grandparents to get a little bit of knowledge. Grandpa's talking to Leo and he imparts some very important bits of wisdom like love is like making a pizza. You learn from your mistakes. You got to be fearless and have fun. And then he also follows that with, you can take the girl out of little, little, little,
Starting point is 00:40:50 but you can't take the little, little, little, little out of the girl. And a variety of sayings like that. I wish they had then revealed that he was watching a soccer game over Leo's shoulder not really paying close attention to conversation. He's like the chances we didn't take the love we didn't make. That kind of shit. So of course, Leo. He's like, hey, Leo, he who dies with the most toys still dies.
Starting point is 00:41:12 You know, life's a beach. Yeah, it's five o'clock somewhere. So of course, you don't have to be crazy to work at this pizza area, but it helps. Yeah. So Leo delivers a late-night pizza and a message for Nicky to be crazy to work at this pizza area, but it helps. Yep. Uh, so Leo delivers a late night pizza and a message for Nikki to be ready at dawn, where he shows up on a scooter to drive her around as Charlene put it. They're in little Italy, not big Italy. Why are they riding on a scooter? Um, so they, they wake up at dawn before everyone else is awake to go to a street festival.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah, and Italian street festival. But they don't live that far from the fence. Like they're in little, little, little. I don't know. Is this a different town over? They are. But they're also just like tasting a bunch of, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I guess if you like the food that you make, you might have fun going out to like a food festival, but I also was kind of watching it being like, I don't know, they got to eat this all the time. Like, where are they like? They're like finally Italian food. Yeah, I mean, as we've experienced Toronto is a city that has a lot of different culinary options. It's not just Italian food.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So you think that they would sample a full cornucopia of different flavors. So of course, in this montage, there is a moment where they're comparing novelty t-shirts that say different Italian things. That's great. And then they, of course, buy those t-shirts because they're very similar. And we're the most similar. Yeah. They take their regular shirts they're wearing before I assume they threw in the gutter, no longer needing them. Yeah, the shirt isn't a tagging enough. Now, here's the thing, Dan, just a minute. This is done like kind of like a flirty montage with music, so you don't totally hear all the dialogue, but I have to assume that as you're saying, they love this cuisine and
Starting point is 00:42:57 they're just like, hey, check out what this guy over here is doing with bread, tomato, sauce, and cheese. No, no, no, no. You've got to come over here and see what this guy is doing with bread, tomato, sauce, and cheese. Wait, wait, wait, no. You gotta come over here and see what this guy is doing with bread tomato sauce and cheese. Wait, wait, wait, look what I found. You'll never guess the combination. That's right, tomato sauce, bread. We threw some cheese in it.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Hey, over here, no, wait, hold on. I got tomato sauce and cheese. Where's the bread? It's right underneath it. They just need to find all the different combinations because that's basically what Italian street food. Yeah. Also, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:43:23 take that Italian street food. as I think I've mentioned before Audrey while being Filipino grew up Part of her time in an Italian household and she was very upset. She's like you don't buy a canola That's pre-filled So that's a little tip for all you apparently don't buy canola. Oh, I mean I do because what I'm not gonna fill it Well, you don't have to fill it. You buy it at a place that will fill it for you. So wait, like I buy the shell, and then I wait for the fucking can only man to ring the bell
Starting point is 00:43:52 and drive his cart by. And I'm like, can only man, can only man, I run out with the shell, I run out with the shell, Dan. And he pulls out his nozzle and he stuffs it right in my shell and he fills it. And I'm like, okay, well, I don't have 17 cents. And he's like, this is one that's on me. And I'm like, okay, but why are you speeding like that? And then I run in and I devour my can only. Sure, you're not buying just the shell.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Where you buy this canola. You're paying. No, no, you're buying the experience. And the feeling, they're just separate at the beginning. Really? They give you the shell and the fill, you put your hand out and they put the shell in one hand. They fill your hand with the filling.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And then you got to mush them together. And that's why they call it canoli. Because it's like, oh, canoli. I got to mess on my hands here. Is that why they, where they got the idea for the wood? Is that the McDLT, where they package the hot shit separately For the exactly keeps the hot hot and the cold cold and it just uses Thrice the styrofoam of a normal package. I guess now here when in Rome, you know You reminded me of a line from earlier where they're at that garden party and
Starting point is 00:44:57 Listen a lot over some reason is give is delivering gum and a canole to the dead so that he can say the line Leave the gum, take the canoli. Wap, wap, wap, godfather. That's what that's for. Okay. Rob's max. Okay, so, um, what happens?
Starting point is 00:45:19 What happens? There's there having so much fun with the novelty t-shirts and the food. What happens to? The only option, of course, is to blow up more vegetables on an old man's suit, but they make it up to him by leaving him a nicely appointed basket filled with Italian treats. I know I shouldn't have said Italian, it kind of goes without saying everybody kind of knew what was going to go. So instead they go back to Leo's place to change shirts and she's like, make some kind of
Starting point is 00:45:45 a comment and he's like, it's getting harder by the minute because he, you know, it's talking about his weiner. It's very funny. Okay. And of course, then they, then they, you know, finally hook up the moment we've been waiting for. Meanwhile, grandma and grandpa have also hooked up and they've also gotten married. No, engaged.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Engaged. Oh, engaged, yes, sure. So this is the moment where you're like, is this what happens when somebody decides to write an entire romantic comedy around a step sibling porto? Oh, yeah. Hey, oh, I did not even think of that. That didn't either, but it makes,
Starting point is 00:46:20 because the scene between the two of them, where between Leo and Nikki, he's like, oh, my shirt's so wet, I'll throw it to the dryer. She's like, yeah, mine too, and takes her shirt off. And it's like, he just doesn't seem to get the message, and it makes more sense if there's a taboo being broken or something like that, because she's like, I'll take my pants off too.
Starting point is 00:46:37 He's like, okay, all right. He's like, a Jedi can't get married, you know? Now, do the grandparents have sex at this point, or is that later? I thought they were like rolling around, like they were having sex. They're not gonna have sex, but I thought they're like rolling around in the bed. No, no, they're not.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Well, Danielle, Danny ILO apparently, at his age, is able to get it up twice. Yes, they have just had sex, and then they are initiating the second round when we leave the scene. And she says to him, the mortal line, take off your top this time because like an old man, he wears shirt the entire time they get sex the first time. Yeah, is what is sports shirt? What is Matt Berry called in the first place?
Starting point is 00:47:19 Sports fest or something? Yes. So, of course, at this point, we need to put a little bit of fire under our characters. Jane Seymour, once again, like a good pizza oven. Yep. She calls to, she facetimes Nikki to pressure her. She's like, she realizes she sees that Nikki has like sex hair and she's like, is there a penis more pressing than my menu? And that's the, you know, it's
Starting point is 00:47:46 great line. Leo shows up and she pushes him away. She's like, this can't work. She needs, but once again, she doesn't address why it can't work. She just try, she creates a fight. She creates a problem between the two of them. We also now learn the secret to know NOSOS. What's that secret, Dan? You put a couple of anchovies in there. And then you fish him out later. I don't know why you got a fish amount. Just cut those learn the secret to know Nasaus. What's that secret Dan? You put a couple of anchovies in there. A couple of anchovies. Then you fish them out later. I don't know why you got a fish amount. Just cut those anchovies real small. They're pretty much dissolved in the sauce.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Okay, tell Nona how to do it Dan. She's been doing the sauce for decades. You know, you come in not even Italian. And tell her how to do it right. How dare you? How much privilege do you have? I guess Dan's rid the food lab, Elliot. He knows this is a thing or two. Yeah, I'm Kenji Lopez-Olt. No, I mean, like maybe she just wants a touch of anchovy flavor, but then just use, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:33 one anchovy, chop it up good. Dan, again, wow, this is, you're just walking into her culture and telling her how to do it better. Like this is the thing. Yeah, he's like, piece to seven fishes. How about just five? Who needs so many fishes? You know what?
Starting point is 00:48:48 I spent a week in Italy once, so I guess I'll open an Italian restaurant and put my swig on things. Come on, this is the way to do it. And what would you call your Italian restaurant, Dan? Like Dan Marinos? Yeah, sure. Let's go ahead.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Sounds more like a steakhouse in Florida, but... But speaking of bad names for things, Hayden Kreschenzen Leo talks about his dream of opening a pizza ria with fancy, all natural organic ingredients. And his name is pizza organica. And I gotta say, terrible name. It's not it, does not roll off the tongue.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It does tell you what they have there, which is pizza with human organs on it And harmonica So at this point at this point Gramm on grandpa are trying to finally break the news to their families Yeah, so they organize a joint dinner a surprise joint dinner I thought surprise joint dinner and once again. This is where the horniness bleeds into reality, where they have decided to go to an Indian restaurant they found on Yelp called Kormasutra,
Starting point is 00:49:55 sensual Indian cuisine. They, of course, the one family arrives. As they arrive, the other family is also arriving, arriving seemingly from another entrance. I'm surprised they didn't make some kind of like weird backdoor, like sex joke. I also want to say, the Italian fathers are completely baffled by the idea that you would want to eat another cuisine. They're like Indian food.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Why are we going here? I would love to see if they're like, oh, non, I guess it's like a pizza crust. Let's see, what kind of toppings we put on that? Like they're trying to reverse engineer a pizza out of Indian food. Oh, that would have been great. So of course, they, you know, both families are a little bit,
Starting point is 00:50:40 both fathers, I guess, are irritated by the news. And they realize the only option at this point is to have another pizza contest. So one of the families will have to move away. It's kind of crazy. Whoever loses the contest will move away. And the dads won't compete. No, no, no, the heirs to the pizza throes will compete. Yeah, because they've been banned from the competition. They've been banned. Oh I see I missed that the dad's hand. So of course Leo and Nikki are going to have to compete and they get in a fight Leo makes some weird jokes. Well first Nikki says I'm a chef I don't do pizza which is the weird thing to say. I mean it's it would make sense if she
Starting point is 00:51:22 said it in 1953. Yeah and then then Leo, of course, is like, you did pizza last night and we're like, whoa, dude. No, no, he's like, she's talking about how, he's like, I always let you win at everything. And she goes, no, you didn't let me win. I let you win it or something. And she's like, oh, like, you let me win last night.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And they all go, oh. Yep. And she slaps his face. And we're like, yeah, he deserved that. That was a pretty shitty thing to say. Especially in front of her family, although I wish they had done it your way where he goes, we made pizza last night. We made some delicious pizza.
Starting point is 00:51:52 We made pizza. We made pizza. You had a heaping helping of hot sausage pizza last night. Oh, wow, oh boy. Damn, I'm sorry, the movie is getting into me, sorry. Yeah. So, of course, the only option is for us to have a pizza contest at the festival, the festival.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I don't know if you've ever been to like the 18th Avenue feast or the feast of San January, it's like that. Yeah, yeah. And there's a, there's a, there's a girl who wants to go to the festival, right, Dan? She sings a song about how she wants to go to the festival, right Dan, she sings a song about how she wants to go to the festival, so she has to go into the woods. Yeah, and a ball. That's eye camera with the rest.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Okay. So the hosts are these two garishly dressed characters in blindingly colored suits. And there's also some bikini-clad men and women who are going to be announced as like what Mr. and Mrs. Italian festival. Yes, Mr. and Mrs. Italian, Italy bikini. And this is after Luigi has revealed to Leo, I know I'm not Italian, but when I was thrown
Starting point is 00:52:56 out of my house by my dad for being gay, the Italians accepted me, which raises even more questions about what I guess Toronto Italians do a lot more open-minded than the New Jersey Italian side grew up around. But then we know he's gay because he is leering at the Mr. Bikini, like they just keep cutting to him going, ugh, what are they doing? Yeah, his eyeballs are popping out. He's wearing sunglasses and they shatter. And like, yeah, so before this,
Starting point is 00:53:23 both our leads have their moments where they like talk to Nona, known as like, oh, being with a man is so great. So they're competing, they manage to make it to the final round, it's our two hero pizza battling each other. And there's a moment where Nikki clearly has the opportunity and the motive so she swaps sauces So that Leo makes his pizza with his family's dough and her famous sauce and and I got to say like before This happened I was joking like they were like walking up with the pizzas and I was joking about like Oh, it'd be hilarious if like it was like Reese's
Starting point is 00:54:03 Pieces commercial and they like bumped into each other and got like their pizza all over each other's pizza, which came made the perfect pizza. And that's kind of what happens in the movie. It's kind of what happens in the movie. So they then- It's a little more deliberate than that, but yeah. So they make their pizzas and throw them directly into ovens that are clearly not on. Like there's no lights, there's no way these these beats of and
Starting point is 00:54:25 are working. I mean, it's tough. Who brings a giant pizza of an out into the street? I mean, for a street festival all the time. Oh, I guess, I guess you're right. I just thought the food magically appeared or like, or maybe like a dragon-breathed fire on them. But I mean, that's the way they do it. That's the way they do it. Brenna Sons Festivals. So of course, Leo wins the contest. And even before you can accept his trophy, Nikki has already jumped into cab to head to the airport. She has a luggage right next to the stage.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I would be so fucking stressed out if I'm like, yeah, so let's time this out. I'm gonna pack my bags, okay? I'm gonna compete in a pizza festival. I'm sure that that's going to go exactly on time. It's not gonna go long. And then if I, oh, even before the festival's done, I'll just, a festival that I guess I'm going to it felt like she hadn't already decided she was going to lose. Like, it felt like she decided she was going to throw the contest at the last moment. So it is weird that she baked in that extra time. So she just jumps in the...
Starting point is 00:55:33 She's already made it. Wait, on top of that Stuart, we have never seen her putting together her menu to submit, right? So she's just going to cram it on the plane, on the way over? That's crazy. Yeah, she's just going to sit in her seat on the plane and look around way over, that's crazy. Yeah, she's just gonna sit in her seat on the plane and look around the plane and think of things. She's like, plane, plane, plane pizza, right at down. But, she's, a James C. Moore's looking at the menu.
Starting point is 00:55:57 She's like, there's so many different dishes that are based around small packages of nuts. Like, is that, that's the theme you're going for? We're sort of ginger cookies. A lot of biscotti. Yeah, that's the thing. The biscotti. This is here.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Or not biscotti, biscoph. Sorry, biscoph. So of course, we rushed to the airport. Leo wants to try and win Nikki back. Wait, hold on. Wait, guys, I want to see that movie so badly now, where she has, she's just just rated the snack basket on the plane It is mixing it. She's like, I got to figure out how to do how to do a a fancy casual meal up out of pop corners and she's it. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:56:36 How do I work these tarot chips? She's like flotation device. She's like, floatation device. Pillowy, Niochi. She's like, for the first course, it is a single terichip floating in a plastic cup of Pepsi Cola. Now the salt in the chip really brings out the sugar in the soda. It's a combination of salty and sweet. And Jane Seymour's like, all right,
Starting point is 00:57:10 I'll see how far this goes. What's the next course? Okay, next course. I've got time to kill. Let's do this. Okay, next, we have, this is a baked item. It's made of a crust of mashed cheese it and biscoff cookie. And it served on an in-flight magazine.
Starting point is 00:57:32 All right, okay. These are some deconstructed pretzels in a barf bag. Okay, these are deconstructed just because you crumpled them? Yes, that's what I mean. So, go on, start. Oh, okay, so this is a, this is a, Leo realizes, oh, oh, this, the contest was fixed.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah, so wait, wait, no, we're still doing this bit. So like, this is a duo of little salamis because I pay an extra for the snack bag, right? Where I like, one of them is on, one of them is cooked and one's not cooked. That's how to do those. Here's some hummus on. Okay, so I'm playing too. It's a duo of dry salami slices and a tiny packet of like liquidy cheese, but not
Starting point is 00:58:18 fully liquid cheese. All right, okay. Okay, so technically we all contributed to that bit. Okay, so I we all contributed to that bit. Okay, so I get partial credit. So when you get a sell it for a million dollars. Yeah, Stewart, now you own a part of it. The ask-apil register that, yes.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Thank you. Okay, so yeah, they rush to the airport. She, Nikki is going through the security line and she is behaving like a person who has never fucking flown in her life because she's like, oh, I can't take my keys Okay, I guess I'll go back through what my watch. I guess my watch is too medley bracelets bracelets is different than a watch. Okay, I'll go back
Starting point is 00:58:56 She has a she has a medal around her neck that her no na gave her that's I forget what saint it is It's a saint that looks over the waivered children and she's looking at it like I have to take this off to Yeah, dude, I like of course you do like yeah, I do get here from London I don't understand you stole way in a pet car Like she's a ghost that's trapped her spirit is trapped inside an amulet and she's like if I remove this my body will turn into a husk That's on you my head will fall That's on you. My head will fall off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Oh man, I love that joke. But that buys time for who to get to the airport. Yeah, I think she kind of did it on purpose, right? She was like, I think the way this is going. I get to give him a little bit of time because he's riding a fucking scooter to the airport. If it's anything like what happens to me, she did it because I was right behind her
Starting point is 00:59:45 with my wife and two children, one of whom is a crying baby, and the other whom is a boy who does not wanna let go of his scooter, even though I have to disassemble it to put it through the machine. And he's just telling me how hungry he is, and she is taking up as much time as possible to keep me in that situation as long as she possibly can.
Starting point is 01:00:02 So I can't get to the other side where I can get my shit together and like get food for my children because that happens every time I get the airport. Because famously the bad travelers are not the people traveling with a bunch of kids. Uh, famously people are excited to see me. Right, right, right. From my point of view, from my point of view,
Starting point is 01:00:20 this is a real rachaman we got here still. From my point of view, it's the Jedi that are evil. I like the pleasing, malifless sound of a child's shrill scream inside of a confined space with bad air pressure. Sure. So of course, you know, Leo gets there in time. He runs up some stairs that are placed kind of interestingly. It's weird that they would have stairs that close to the security line Because I feel like people could like like jump over them and get through security like parkour style But whatever I'm not actually very similar the way that LAX has laid out in some of its terminals
Starting point is 01:00:55 Which is weird, but but you're right. It is it is weird that there seems to be a staircase that goes to the gates that just goes over the security line Yeah, it seems like why is an in-room just going over this Maybe that just takes them to an anti-ans pretzels or something. They have those in airports right there. So, the whole family shows up. It's probably a Tim Hortx. Yep, so the whole family shows up.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Leo pours out his heart like so much pizza sauce. And Nikki, you know, Nikki mulls it over. The, there is a like so much wine. There's a star making performance from a security guard who says, girl, go to London, don't change your plans for no man. Yeah, she made my favorite character. Yeah, she was like, yeah, man,
Starting point is 01:01:37 don't throw away your career just for this. You can figure something out. We're also introduced to another security agent who is is played by a gay man who keeps taking selfies. It's only important because he shows up later as Luigi's date at the wedding. So eventually, she makes everyone believe like she goes through the security line, you're like, oh, she gave up on him.
Starting point is 01:02:01 But nope, she had to get her back, she's decided to stay. And everybody's happy. And there's a a wedding and everybody is coupled off. Yeah, everyone's paired off like it's a Shakespeare comedy. Yeah. And the dads explain why their feud even happened in the first place. Oh, yeah, it was an argument over which parents to name the pizza parlor over and both of the parents like we don't want to fucking piece a parlor named after us. Come on. the pizza parlour over and both of the parents are like, we don't want to fucking pizza parlour named after us, come on. Yeah, they don't want to be named after pizza, which is once again, it's all tied in with communication guys.
Starting point is 01:02:30 If Nikki had told everybody that she was only going to be there briefly, they could, you know, they could have dealt with this, but it was, you know, they wouldn't have all had to rush to the airport. I mean, to be fair, if they, they, there argument escalated from, I want this pizza named after my grandma. No, I want, after my mom. No, I want it named after my dad, to the place where they were throwing food at each other I think there were bigger issues underlying
Starting point is 01:02:50 Oh, yeah, also the flat like my recovery to them fighting at the pizza Contest was pretty funny because it turns into like an old vaudeville Like routine like they're like throwing pizza at each other like like sauce at each other, dough at each other. It's pretty fun. I am glad that you specified old Vodville because if it was more of a new Vodville. Vodville is back, guys. It's called TikTok.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, but also I want to say too, Jane Seymour comes over and she is quite taken with the pizza that they've made together for the wedding and talks to them about franchising opportunities abroad. So everyone gets what they want. Everyone gets what they want. Because apparently Nikki's grandma invited Nikki's old boss to her wedding.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yeah, I mean, I feel like they made a connection. She specified that she was her best student. I guess, sure. I guess. And also she's like, so Nicky was in competition with this guy with Garth, or Gareth. And she's like, oh, Gareth's food went through review or so fast that we had to shut down within weeks.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And it's like, guys, come on, this Gareth guy, we barely met him. There's no reason to say that he's like, always making people. Like, don't have to lie. And then no reason to say that he's like, poisoning people. Like the most of the time. And then does that seems to be also an issue maybe with like food sanitation and prep more than like his menu? I mean, which would still be on him
Starting point is 01:04:14 because he's the executive chef at the restaurant, right? Yeah, he may, he may have saws out of Windex or something. And even the Indian employees have now paired up in our... Yeah, yeah, there's a moment where Joji, our leads are dancing with their respective, you know, their respective Indian co-workers and then trick them into dancing with each other. And there's a moment where Joji sees Jesse in her sorry and he's like, he says, holy cow, which earlier in the movie,
Starting point is 01:04:45 they'd addressed that, he addressed that, cows are sacred in India, so that's a big deal. But like, fuck you. Who's this? Go on. And then everyone's happy and then it's just blooper, poloosa, right? Yeah, there's a bunch of bloops.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Well, I mean, a lot of this movie seems to have been improvised because they've got a bunch of alternate takes of jokes. And I don't know, Dan. The movie seems pretty tightly crafted. I would say that most of the time, they chose the wrong joke to put the movie, because it laughed harder at most of the bloops. Certainly all of Luigi's jokes,
Starting point is 01:05:20 where they're making a joke about him touching Hayden and Christiansons, but all of his takes were funnier than the one they put in the movie i kind of feel like this is the kind of movie we're and the you know the person who made people made this movie they've made other movies they're not newbies this is not a a and you'll bring scenario there's a there's a stink of professionalism on this
Starting point is 01:05:39 movie yes but i kind of wonder if there were takes where they're like that's hilarious we'll save that for the bloopers uh... yes too funny to put in the movie. That should be in the bloopers. Yeah, you want people laughing on the way out of the theater, you know? Mm-hmm. Laughing and maybe hungry, because did you guys really want pizza afterwards? Because I didn't.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Oh, no. I was like, so maybe I'll never eat a pizza again. Because all I like to think about was how much trouble it causes people emotionally, the people who make the pizzas Guys, let's do final judgments whether this is a good bad movie a bad bad movie or movie kind of like Stewart What do you what do you want to say about this? Yeah, I mean some of the troubling stereotypes aside I thought this was kind of a good bad movie. I had a good time It was my wife and I had a great time watching the laugh and at it.
Starting point is 01:06:25 But yeah, you know, whatever. It was fun. I watched this with Audrey who is a great fan of Dunmore Mantic Committees and she was on board from the beginning. I kind of thought it was sort of a generic and boring for a lot of it. And then like, I don't know, like the last 30 minutes kind of won me over for some reason. I'm not really sure what change, whether I just had Stockholm syndrome or whether the energy picked up. But I don't know, it exists outside the categories for me. I'd say if you're into this kind of thing, you might have fun watching it. I would say, yeah, it's a, if you want to watch a, it does feel super generic, but that's
Starting point is 01:07:08 kind of what made it a good, bad movie for me is that there were certain points where I was like, how generic can a movie feel and still be a movie that has characters with names? And this gets pretty close to it. If you want to see a super good, bad movie romantic comedy, I'd recommend down to you with Freddie Princes Jr. and Julia Stiles. But if you want to watch one where the joke is like, how much, how little movie could they put in a movie?
Starting point is 01:07:31 Like how much could it just be the template for a romantic comedy? I'd say go with this one, because I think I found that funny about it, where it was like, what's the hook? Everybody's Italian. Okay, do we need anything else in the movie? Nah, that's pretty much enough, that's okay.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah, and there's barely any conflicts. Like they could have made way more of the sort of like Romeo and Juliet futing family's thing. But like, everyone in the families except the fathers are totally cool with one another. It's so funny that like even more than that in some cases. Yeah, it turns out everyone else is fine, but also like, there are times when they're having a great time, Leo and Nikki, and they're really seen meant for each other, and Nikki will just be like, no, no, I have to leave, because it's the part of the movie where we're not supposed to be together yet.
Starting point is 01:08:12 So I gotta go now, and it's like, okay, I guess she knows she's in a movie, and they're not supposed to do it until later. And I feel like a lot of the supporting cast are at least up for it. You know, like Andrea Martin, Jane Seymour, you know all those guys. Oh, listen, Milano, Danny Ayello. So we're all in three. Allery, good, bad movie with Dan saying he liked it the most. Yeah, he says it exists outside more of a documentary.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Yeah. Yeah. Exist outside more of a documentary. Haha. our characters to give you a quick recap of what's happened so far, so say hi, C53. See, could you tell us what's happening in the Zix quadrant leading up to season 4? Certainly, the evil Nuret Bumbleau not to be confused with the non evil Nuret Bumbleau of narration murderers, fellow counselors, and crowned himself Emperor of the Galaxy. With the help of myself and the rest of the proletariat, J. and Zimony of Plectex that are not the Emperor and Agent Cosmic and the known as BNO into a plasma
Starting point is 01:09:25 boardy gigantic planet Crusher Crusher, a machine built to crush planet Crusher, which in turn were designed to crush planets, resulting in a explosion created a vast celestial object with unknown powers. We are currently in search of our former rebel commander, Cisugundo, who may yet reordered our fractured galaxy. It's that sufficient.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Yeah, all clear to me. Mission is X, season four, debuts on February 19th on Maximum Fund. Hey, I'm Jerrod Hill, co-host of the brand new Maximum Fund podcast, Fanty. Fine, I'm Treville Anderson. I'm the other more fabulous co-host, and the reason you really should be tuning in. I feel the nausea rising.
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Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah. Guys, let's take a word, a moment to do a work from our sponsor. Our one sponsor this week is Squarespace. Squarespace, you know by now, it's a service that allows you to take your cool idea and turn it into a website. You can blog or publish content,
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Starting point is 01:11:22 use the offer code, flop, to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Hey, Dan, I had an idea for a website and I was wondering if Squarespace could help me with it. Almost certainly. Oh, okay, thank you. Well, that's all I had to say. Oh, but Dan is getting up and leaving.
Starting point is 01:11:42 So I guess I'll talk a lot more. Yeah, yeah. So I had I'll talk a lot more. So I had an idea for a website, so here's the thing, everyone knows about Little Italy's. They're the parts of big cities where a lot of people have Italian the center, and it's like a little Italy, but I want to find the Italyest corner of Little Italy. So I have a new website, it's called www.littleidilyfinder.com. And we're going to find little, little, little Italy. The corner of little Italy, that's even more Italian than the rest of little Italy. I call it little, little, little, little.
Starting point is 01:12:12 It might be the back room of a restaurant. It might be a corner of a pork store. It might be just like the shower in an old lady's apartment. I don't know. So it's little, little, little, little finder.com. And what it does is it, it relies really on user reports of how a lot of the things that are in the community and it's a lot of the things that are in the
Starting point is 01:12:30 community and it's a lot of the community and it's a lot of the community and it's a lot of the community and it's a lot of the community
Starting point is 01:12:40 and it's a lot of the community and it's a lot of the community and it's a lot of the community and it's a lot of the community and it's a lot of the aspect to it because people have to make their case. Why is this the most Italian part of Little Italy? Why is this the Little Italy? And kind of like Pokemon Go gets people out moving around and walking. Oh, which is so neat at these days. We spend so much of our life sitting down
Starting point is 01:12:52 at work or at our computer or looking at our phones. Now we can walk around looking at our phones. Well, kind of try, and I imagine eventually you'll have so much data that you can use your phone like a ghost meter and ghost busters. We just wave it around and it picks up on the levels of Italian in little Italy until you find little, little Italy. So it's little, little Italy finder.com your source for both finding and reporting on the most Italian parts.
Starting point is 01:13:17 No other sponsors this week. If you want to get up on the jumbo tron, you can go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo tron. But let's mention our live show in wait a minute. Where is it? Hold on. Oh no. Toronto in on April 18th at 8 p.m. We're gonna be in Toronto. That's right. The site of the movie little Italy that we were talking about. I think the theater is in little Italy.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Oh, yeah. Oh, guys forget what I said. It's a great movie and I love it and everything about that neighborhood is great. Uh oh, we're in trouble. We're going to be at the Royal cinema. It's part of the What the Film Festival. That's April 18th and 8 p.m. We haven't chosen the movie for yet. It's probably going to be a lesser known not quite as big budge movies. We usually do for my shows, but it'll be fun. And quite possibly Canadian from the choices we've been looking at so far. I also want to say if you go to flopphousepodcast.com, there will be a link to where you buy tickets both on the show page for this episode and under events.
Starting point is 01:14:18 So it will be very hard for you not to find the link. I mean, you're probably there already. And that's April 18th at 8 PM in Toronto at the Royal Cinema. It's part of the What the Film Festival. Go to flopphousepodcast.com or flopphousepodcast.com slash events. Cool.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Anything else, sir? Should we move on to a letter? Let's just go through this. Oh, I'll let you know that by the time this episode comes out, it will be, I think, a day until the release of the first episode of iPodius. That's right. The Long awaited Elliott Kaelin John Hodgman collaborative podcast, where together we watch and talk about the 1974 British mini-series, or 1976, I can't remember. British mini-series I-Claudeus, based on the novels by Robert Graves.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Oh, I thought it was about going to the bathroom. A lot of people think that. A lot of people think that. It's pod-po-d and not-po-t-t-y. Oh, because you pronounce it like-po-t-t-y. Sorry, I pod-ias. Okay, thank you. It's the name of the show.
Starting point is 01:15:16 It's a 13 episode podcast mini-series. And I think it's going to come out really great. I'm excited about what I've heard of it so far. And I think you, the listener, will like it a lot. From Maximum Fun, that's right. I, Podius, February 17th, the first episode enters the world. Enjoy that from Elliot Kaylin and a man who wants through a shoe at Elliot Kaylin. I've early reviews say that it's too hot for TV. Is that true, Elliot? I mean, it's both too hot for TV and also has no visual component. Which makes it a difficult sale for TV. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Alright, so let's get into the letter. You know, like just watching like a blank screen would be... Let's get in to letters and this one goes like this. Hey Flops, I just finished the audible version of Dune and loved it. But when trying to get my partner into it, they turn me down. I have to assume it was read by Tom Broca. Chapter one, Paul of Traders, heir to the House of Traders,
Starting point is 01:16:16 put his hand in the gong Jabbar. Okay. That's the first line of Dune, right? Yeah, when trying to get my partner into it, they turn me down. Often, shuttering. Wait, Dan, I didn't hear you. Do you guys ever hear Tom Broca's, do you hate interrupts?
Starting point is 01:16:32 Yes, I do. He read Moby Dick, anyway, like this. Chapter one. Call me Paul Atredis. He just loves Dune. I love Dune. I mean, before Call of the Eishm is smell there is that a whole like four notes to though Did he read that or?
Starting point is 01:16:49 No, he doesn't read that part. No, yeah, yeah. There was that other part where he's like like a hump like a shy hallowed God, oh, Tom Broca reads the Bible Genesis chapter one In the beginning there was Paul a trade-ass. Okay. Okay, going back, just giving backwards a little bit, when trying to get my partner into it, they turn me down, often shattering it words like, Quisette Hadrak, you pronounce it totally right,
Starting point is 01:17:23 or at least I'm-gayb. I want to hear Dan McCoy read, Dan. So how do we know how it's pronounced? These are bullshit made-up words. Dan, all words are made-up. You're not though. You have to imagine the characters from Dan as they say them are stumbling over them. Just trying to scout it out. How do we know what the canonical fucking like we don't know Frank Herbert isn't wandering
Starting point is 01:17:50 around. He didn't do one of those YouTube things like this is how you pronounce this goddamn word. I mean one we don't know that to his son's alive we could talk to him. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what we think is sons a fucking expert We saw what Tolkien's send it later on anyway. Oh, sorry to make you pronounce all that When when Tolkien's son put the word not at the end of the last book of Lord the Rings Okay, anyways, so do you guys have any suggestions for getting people psyched about Dune also what are your expectations?
Starting point is 01:18:22 Slash anticipation for the upcoming movie from first name withheld atreides? Whoa. It's probably Duke Lee. I'll let you guys, I'll let you guys feel this one, because I read Dune and I'm like, my reaction was, this is fine.
Starting point is 01:18:37 So, you guys as the Dune fanatics, well. I would say, big Dune fans are called Dune'sons berries. I would say that part of the I feel like one of the the closer like I don't know it doon reminds me a lot of the Game of Thrones series so if if your partner is a fan of the
Starting point is 01:19:03 song of ice and Fire books, or I guess the show, the, I feel like Dune was clearly an influence on George R. Martin and the way I was able to convince my partner to listen or, well, I always knew that I wanted Charlene to read those books, but I knew there's no way she was just gonna sit down and read those books.
Starting point is 01:19:26 So with Song of Ice and Fire, I read them out loud to her and it took like five years and I would get a couple pages and then she would fall asleep. But she loves them and I got to do voices for all the characters, it was great. And it also inspired her to listen to a lot more books on tape. And now she listens to a ton of books on tape.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So that's what I would suggest. I was actually going to say something very similar because I have two strategies here. Number one, so my wife and I, we were on a trip once. And I frequently, usually my wife and I have a book that I'm reading aloud to her in chunks or chapters over time. And we had forgotten them when we brought with us, and I was rereading Doon at the time, so she was like, all right, fine, start reading that to me, thinking she would also fall asleep. But she really got into the story because the writing in Doon, in the first book, especially, is like, you know, it's wonderfully written. Like it really pulls you into that world.
Starting point is 01:20:27 So I think like set it up where you're away from home, you forgot any other books. That's the only book available. And redoing. Or here's my second strategy. This may turn out to be one of those things that you like and your partner is just not that into. And that's okay. It's okay for you to not share everything with them.
Starting point is 01:20:46 There's plenty of things that my wife and I share and interest in, plenty of things we don't share and interest in, and that's totally okay. So like I would say don't spend too much of your life trying to push this on your partner. If they don't want it, that's totally cool. My expectations for the movie, I think it's gonna look beautiful and I think it's probably not gonna make that much much sense plot wise. What do you think Stuart?
Starting point is 01:21:06 Oh, I hope it's, I mean, based on the creative team, I'm guessing it's going to be long and like contemplative. And there's going to be some sick ass synths in the soundtrack. Oh, I hope so. Yeah. I mean, all I have to say about this is I just want a second one, Elliot says, you know, if you want to get somebody to something, you think they might like it. Say, I think you might like this, give them the opportunity to partake in it. And if they're not interested back off. Yeah, I mean, I mean, your partner's life is not going to be probably not going to be changed to measurably by whether they read new or not. If it is changed to measurably, then that partner may not be the one you ultimately want
Starting point is 01:21:45 to be with because like, do you suddenly want your whole life to be about doom? I don't know about that. This next letter is from Lawrence last name withheld. Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes?
Starting point is 01:21:57 Who writes? Wow. Lawrence, who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? Who writes? I donated my kidney to a stranger. Right before the surgery, I watched the first half of venom.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Right after the surgery, I finished it off. So that takes such faith, either that you are gonna make it through the surgery and finally find out what happens to venom, or that you're like, you know what, what's the movie that I'm not gonna care if it ends or not in case I die during the surgery? Venom, okay, sure, fine.
Starting point is 01:22:21 There's also a feeling of like, sometimes when you sink your teeth into a really great story, you kind of don't want to end, you know? Like the feeling I had in between the Peter Jackson films, Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers, and Lord of the Rings Return of the King was so much more excitement and like love of life in general than I felt after Return of the King, which I was just kind of sad, you know. Yeah, because you had finished the quest.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I had finished the quest. I had reached Mount Doom on my own. I didn't need an eagle. That's kind of how I felt when I read one fish and two fish and I said that there were two more fish left on the cover and I was like, I don't know, I'm having such a good time. I don't know if I want to see what the, I want to not know what those fish are, but then I tripped and I glanced down and I saw it said red fish blue fish and I was like, oh, I have no more fish to look forward to.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Mm hmm. Moving on back to the actual letter. Okay. A few weeks later, I wondered what the ending of venom was like when I wasn't high on fentanyl. So I tried to rewatch it. I made it about 10 minutes in before the enormity of what I had done hit me and I started crying and had to turn it off. I wasn't sad exactly. I just didn't know how to process the emotion that the movie provoked me. So I have two questions.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Number one, what absolutely terrible and stupid movies have your lives given you deep strange emotional connections to? Number two, if you transplanted your organs into the bodies of strangers, what horrible urges and preferences with your parts force on the recipients. Here's in floppy-ness Lawrence last name withheld. I want to say like this isn't a bad movie anyway. I actually think it's a pretty good movie if a little standard, but I watched the beautiful day
Starting point is 01:24:10 in the neighborhood. And a lot of people criticize that movie because it's not so much about Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers is kind of a supporting character and it's much more about the journalist talking to Mr. Rogers, but I cried through so much of that movie. And... But you were at the at Alamo Drafthouse's Onion Night.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Yes, I was. No, but I watched it with Audrey, and she was like, it was fine, and I think that's because she has had to spend too much of her life dealing with, you know, emotionally-stunted men, whereas I responded to it deeply because I am an emotionally-stunted man. So I was like, okay, there's this movie about a man who's learning how to deal with his emotions, learning how to deal with him more healthily,
Starting point is 01:24:56 has a lot of repressed anger that he needs to go of, and here's this man showing him a different way, like really teaching him something important and I found it way more moving than maybe like you know maybe a very simple story arguably deserves yeah but I just found a big connection to it because I'm like, oh, I wish a manic pixie dream Mr. Rogers would come into my life and and fix me. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I would call me say manic. I'll call him pixie Mr. Rogers like a placid pixie Mr. Rogers. I yeah, I mean my my story is not is not as deeply rooted in emotion, but I remember when I was in a pretty bad car accident in high school and
Starting point is 01:25:50 My already broken arm got re-broken and I was bedridden for a little while My mom went and rented some horror movies for me to watch because she's a good fucking mom and she knows her son and she rented body parts. Sorry, Jeff Fahey, a story about a man who is in a horrible car accident and gets his arm torn off. So yeah, that was pretty great. And then I mean, like, for a stupid movie that I have, a stupid movie that's arguably hateful and hurtful that I have a strong relationship with, is a movie that I've just watched so many times a kid, and I'm sure it stunted me emotionally,
Starting point is 01:26:35 is 16 Candles, which I feel like I had to do many, many years of deep programming to get out of my system. All right. What do you have to say? I mean, I don't have anything as deep as either of those stories. I was just gonna say that when I was a kid, my sister's favorite movie was Teen Wolf.
Starting point is 01:26:55 So we watched it a lot. And so Teen Wolf reminds me of like my very young childhood in a way that not too many other movies do. So and Teen Wolf is maybe the stupidest movie ever made. It's so stupid. It's up there. It's incredibly dumb. Just the idea that like, oh, we've got this werewolf story.
Starting point is 01:27:15 What should we do? Oh, let's turn it into a basketball movie. Yeah. I mean, it's so that it's a basketball movie that no one is ever scared of a werewolf. And the message of the movie is kind of like Hey, life's a lot better when you're a werewolf, which is a crazy message for a movie Yeah, but anyway, it's a very dumb movie But I have a sweet spot in my heart for it because I spent so much time with my sister watching it
Starting point is 01:27:39 When we are And ask for donating body parts first. I want to say you know, what a great thing for you to do Thank you. Yeah, I really don't But you know if any part of my body got transplanted and someone else probably an insatiable less for butts I guess that's right if you donated your corneas. Yeah, yeah, it only see butts. Yeah You guys oh man. Yeah, this only see butts. Yeah. Uh, you guys? Oh, man. Uh, yeah, this is a hard one. Yeah, sometimes I hold back the sillier question just to see what you guys will do. I mean, the easy answer for me is like a hunger for Popeyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:16 But the harder answer would be, um, like a sort of, um, like, depressive self-loathing that no amount of career or family success can ever fully erase. So thank you for saving the silly question, Dan. Shout out to me any time to think about it. Yeah, it's like if I transplanted my hair onto somebody, they would be given this like sense of confidence and like a carefree attitude of yeah power I think
Starting point is 01:28:47 like like just raw power. Yeah. And a deep, a deep, a deep, and a deep need to own a jeweled Furby necklace, right? Oh, certainly. That would be how I would win. That's a direct quote of the movie, right? Let's move on to our finals. You know what, you know what, that movie,
Starting point is 01:29:10 there's a version of Uncut Gems where the studio got to it and made a lot of changes. And at the end, Adam Sandler has his arms around his family and he goes, I forgot, you guys are the real Uncut Gems. Yeah, yeah, and instead of a Passover Sater, it's like a Christmas dinner. Yeah, also, yeah, they're Christian now. Let's move on to our final segment, which is recommendations of movies that we liked
Starting point is 01:29:33 that you might want to see. I don't know, in addition to this movie, if you decide to see the hell, literally. But, um, hey, guys, it's time for us to tell about some movies, a different kind of movie than the movie we were telling about before. These are movies that we like, movies watching on a bike, movies maybe your name's Mike, they're movies that we like. Hey movies, we love you sometimes, but sometimes we don't, and we talk about you on the flop house, but then there's that last 5 to 10% of the show, where we talk about movies
Starting point is 01:30:04 we like. That's right. They're movies we could watch all night. Oh, yeah, black and white or sometimes in color too. Maybe in 3D for you, they're movies that we like and we're telling you to watch them tonight. Wow. Yeah, up when the song comes and the ends of the bang episode.
Starting point is 01:30:22 And I just trying to keep you on your toes. I don't care for it. But so Dan, you a big movie freak. Sure. What you got on the spotlight. Dan you're kind of the movie buff of the the block house. I yesterday went and saw the I saw birds of prey and the phantabulous emancipation of one Harley Quinn. You know normally I might for something smaller, but unfortunately this movie is not doing well at the box office So I want to you know through what tiny tiny weight I have mind it Yes, Dan we can see you lost weight We get it you're of a tiny weight now
Starting point is 01:31:00 But no, I think we were all pretty much an agreement that while Suicide Squad sucked, Margot Robbie was one of the bright points in it and she does a really great job. Basically aside from all the jokes they made her say, she set them with quite a bit of Vim and Vigor. Yeah, well, I mean, this is a much better version of that character and a better movie that she's in. She does say, Dan, she does say, talk about a killer app after a guy's head explodes. There's nothing that dumb in this movie. I think it's a, it's a harder acting job
Starting point is 01:31:34 than like it might seem at first because she has to be like very funny. She has to have these sort of outsized cartoonish reactions to things, but she also brings a weird human grounding to it, and she's doing all those things at the same time, and she's the constant source of energy in that movie. I will say it was sort of surprising to me, like, for a movie whose title starts out with Birds of Prey, it is definitely a Harley-Quinn movie with special guest Birds of Prey. Okay. but it's, you know, it's fun.
Starting point is 01:32:06 It's candy colored. Uh, you and McGregor is very funny in it. It is the bad guy. Mary Elizabeth Winstead is terrific in it. I always like her. I wish there's more of her in the movie. And, uh, how much, how much Zaz is in it? There's a lot of Zaz.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Cool. Also for DC movie movie the action is pretty comprehensible and creative and it's all well choreographed so and it's you said it's bright which is nice yeah it's like a candy colored movie directed by and written by a woman and produced by Margot Robbie so like that's nice uh yeah I mean if you're in the mood for a big
Starting point is 01:32:44 silly action movie, you do a lot worse. Anyone else? Well, it's a ward season. So, of course, I've been, see where this is going. I've been, we're recording this on the day of the Academy Awards. So, we're recording this on the day of the Academy Awards.
Starting point is 01:33:03 So I've been catching up on movies, you know, that are going to be talked about in the, you know, the current cultural zeitgeist. So of course, I'm going to recommend a movie called Tammy and the T-Rex, the new R-rated cut. It's available on Shutter. This features a very young Denise Richards and a very young Paul Walker about a young teenager who gets his brain transplanted into a robot dinosaur's body. I think it's a robot. It's tough. It's tough to tell exactly what's going on. Yeah, it's very gory. It's very silly.
Starting point is 01:33:39 When the movie begins, you get a title card that calls the movie Tanny and the teenage T-Rex, which is not the name of the movie that I decide to watch. I love when that happens. So, yeah, if you get a chance, it's like, and it's directed by the director of Mac and me, and it's significantly more fun than that. It's just such a goofy fucking movie. If you're looking for, like solid good-ass good bad movie I highly recommend it. I haven't watched it yet
Starting point is 01:34:11 But I got an email from shutter telling me that Duh, duh, duh, duh, I was so fucking excited when I got that email Yes, and you replied. Yes I've never replied Mailer demon Mailer that now there's a mailer demon that's haunting you. Yeah, what do you got Elliot? So I have a recommendation that comes with a correction from my our last full episode We were talking about 80s movies and I mentioned Howard's End Howard's End is a 1992 movie and you know what movie? I watched recently for the first time
Starting point is 01:34:44 Howard's End that's right. I was not movie. And you know what movie I watched recently for the first time? Howard's End, that's right. I've never seen it before. It was on Netflix. I decided to throw it on. And it's the kind of movie that when I was younger, I was like, ugh, I don't need to see one of these like slow costume dramas.
Starting point is 01:34:56 But watching it, I was like, oh, this is a really good entertaining movie. The movie moves at a fast clip. And it's a movie that jumps time in unexpected ways so that you kind of have to keep up with it. And yeah, it's a costume drama, but there are also some funny parts and the actors are amazing in it and I really liked a lot. There's one kind of not-actiony, but the closest thing the movie has to an action climax,
Starting point is 01:35:18 the scene is not really put together that great. But otherwise, I thought it was really good and I really liked a lot. So I'm gonna recommend Howard's End. Yeah. A lot of us, if I was gonna watch it, but I didn't have a lot of time, would it be weird if I just fast forward to the end? I mean, it would be,
Starting point is 01:35:33 because you wouldn't know what was going on. And, but I just wanna see what the title means. Yeah, Howard's in. I know, no, you know it from the beginning. Howard's End is the name of a house. It's the story of, what?
Starting point is 01:35:44 It's the story of a wealthy family that owns a country house called Howard's End is the name of a house. It's the story of a, what? It's the story of a wealthy family that owns a country house called Howard's End and the relationship that pops up first between the mother of that family and a kind of what they would call at the time a new woman. This takes place at the beginning of the 20th century. These two sisters played by Emma Thompson, Helena Bottomkart who are very like free thinking and liberal and the relationship that pops up first between Emma Thompson and the mother of that family and then with the father of that family Play by Anthony Hopkins and also Helena bottom Carter's increasing entanglement with a lower-class man who she wants to help
Starting point is 01:36:19 But who increasingly does not deserve her help bump bump bump, but all the characters in it are like characters who increasingly does not deserve her help. Bum bum bum. But all the characters in it are like characters. There's no like, except for actually that's not true. There's Anthony Hopkins Sun in it is basically Eric Trump. But otherwise, there's no like, bad guys, they're just people with different conflicting emotions. I would like to say that a lot of the movies that these films inspired, let's call them 90s Miramax movies.
Starting point is 01:36:46 We're like these sort of stayed costume, like middle brow things that are not so great, but the virtue of every movies are all pretty good. Yeah, I mean, they're times in this where they're working with, especially for a movie that is mostly a domestic movie. It's like there's not a lot of spaceships, you know. They're working with a wide frame in it
Starting point is 01:37:08 and a big screen and the way they use that screen is beautiful. Like they, it's the screenplay is great. The way the movie looks amazing. And not just like, oh, the costumes look pretty, but like the way they use the frame is really fantastic. And the story had me hooked. So that's my recommendation, hook,
Starting point is 01:37:24 starring Dustin Hoffman and Robin Williams. Mm-hmm. Oh. Okay, guys. Well, let's just end this thing, right? And Bob Hoskins is in that, too. Uh, yes, technically, but we don't like to talk about him in our house.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Robert Hoskins. Uh, you mean Robert Hoskins? I don't know, well enough to call him Bob. And, uh mean Robert Hoskins? I don't know. Well enough to call him Bob and Julia Roberts. Yeah, barely. She has a very small role. Julia's Roberts. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Emma Roberts is anant. So anyway, um, oh, actually, and I want to mention, uh, also Howard's end is your chance to see Pronella scales, uh, the Faulty Towers, in a rare, much slightly more dramatic role. Oh, nice. Okay, guys. Hey, why don't you listen to... Hey, what?
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Starting point is 01:39:53 I'd say Dan and Jordan. Let's okay. I'd say co-producers at this point co-producers Dan McCoy and Jordan Kelling and Stay tuned for more flop house in the future See ya, bye! I don't know the rest of the song, so I guess I'll just repeat the thing that I said, and I was like, mmm, the force is strong with this one. Yep. Yep, you said that like Darth Vader said about a... But Luke Skywalker, because here is Dan.
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